Salty Podcast #59 | ⛵️ LIVE from a Sailboat in the Solomon Islands! 🚨 - Salty Podcast: Sailing

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Capn Tinsley (00:00):
Captain Mark J Reinhardt isn't just sailing.
He's rewriting the script onwhat it means to live free.
Right now he's deep in theSolomon Islands aboard his
beloved sailboat, pompero,making his way around the world
one ocean at a time.
He's the author of Off the Grid, how I Quit the Rat Race and
Live for Free Aboard a Sailboat,a no-fluff, real talk dive into

(00:24):
, walking away from the grindand building a life powered by
wind, guts and purpose.
If you've ever daydreamed aboutditching the noise and chasing
something real, this one's foryou.
He's got stories, he's gotscars, he's got salt in his
blood and zero regrets.
But first but first, do mesolid.

(00:44):
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I'm Captain Tinsley of SailingVessel Salty Abandoned a 1998
Island Packet 320 sailboat, andthis is the Salty Podcast,
episode 59.
Welcome, captain Mark.

(01:05):
I'm calling you Mike.
I'm sorry about that, hello.
Hey, what's happening, mark?
How are you?
I'm doing good.
You got a good-looking.
Looks like you got a studiothere.
That's a good-looking studioyou got there.

Capn Mark J. Reinhardt (01:21):
Yeah, I'm trying to put my book off
the grid on audio.
So before I took off I got allthis equipment so I, when I was
sitting next to some island, Icould just do my audio book
that's perfect.

I do love it when the author reads.
I like to listen to audiobookson the boat, so I'm gonna.
When's that coming out with theaudio?

i'm'm not sure I got about halfway
through it and you know one ofmy stories is one of the reasons
my book Off the Grid is alittle bit inspirational is, you
know, I have learningdisabilities, like a lot do, and
struggle to get through school.
I never actually read a book inmy life and I wrote a book, so

(02:05):
that was my premise is what?
What's holding you back fromachieving your goals?
You know if I can do that andso actually reading it for
audiobook has been quitechallenging.
And uh, you know I secondguessed myself and blah, blah,
blah about halfway through it.
So, yeah, I was sitting in tonga, beautiful environment.
You know people always ask mewhat's your favorite place.

(02:25):
Well, it started out in theSandblast Islands and then I
went to Tonga.
Now it's kind of back and forthbetween Tonga and Fiji, but
still I think Tonga is the best.
It's just so beautiful.
The water's deep and mountainscoming right up out.
I mean you could literally runinto a mountain and it'd be 160

(02:45):
feet under your keel.
Wow, Just a beautiful spot.
And I just found some spots toanchor and just got into my zone
and started doing the audiobook.
But I haven't.
It's been put on hold for now.
I might get back into it when Iget to the Philippines.

Well, I do like to .
That's my favorite way tolisten, especially on the boat.
I don't like to read, I like tolisten.
I can look around and payattention to what I'm doing.

Capn Mark J. Reinhar (03:17):
Absolutely .
I love audiobooks.
I've got a whole library full ofaudiobooks because I don't read
.

Tell us where you're from.

I grew up in Orlando on a little lake,
lake Conway.
I got my first boat, or as anold-timer told me, on the Rio
Dolce.
I asked him how long he'd beensailing.
He says I think I fell off myfirst boat about six years old.
So I kind of like to adopt thatstory.
So I probably fell off my firstboat about 10 years old.

(03:51):
It was just a rowboat.
It was just a rowboat.
I don't equate my sailinghistory to being started when I
was 10, but not by any stretchof the imagination.
But I grew up on boats.
But I grew up on boats.
We had bow riders and fishingboats and ski boats.
Almost my whole life I've owneda boat of some kind, not always

(04:15):
a sailboat.
Then I thought I'd sail aroundthe world.
When I was 30, and I bought a41 Morgan, didn't know anything
about big sailboats.
I'd been a windsurfer and had aHobie cat, that kind of stuff,
but I didn't know anything aboutbig boats and there were so
many different big boats.
I saw a bunch of 41 Morgans onthe market so I thought, well,

(04:37):
at least I can get the best 41Morgan for the dollar because I
can compare apples to apples.
So I ended up with a 41 morganand took off to sail to uh
around the world at 30 years oldwith hardly any money, no
experience and just a big dream.
And uh, I made it to saintthomas where I got rooted in uh

(05:01):
for four years and then I endedup selling the boat and raising
a family.
That's why I'm gun shy of womennowadays because you get a boat
, you get a woman, the boat goesaway.
It doesn't necessarily have tobe that way.
I know that.

No, but from my experience being out there
sailing, I see a lot of guysalone on boats and they're like
God.
I wish I could find somebody to.

They all love the dream and they love
the idea of the dream and theylove sailing off in the sunset.
Well, the next morning is thesunrise and then there's more
shit that happens yeah.
You mean like broken thingsbroken things and challenging
situations and close quartersand creature comforts are pretty

(05:52):
much gone.
You know you're, you're I callit camping out on the water.
You know it's, it's definitely.
But the plus is I'm living in,you know.
You know, I've sailed 10 000miles in the last two and a half
years, seen more places thanmost people ever will.
And I would have to have a job.

(06:12):
If I lived on land, right, Icouldn't support my life.
I couldn't support a house anda car and insurance and all that
crap.
Living on land but a sailboat,all that crap.
Um, living on land but asailboat.
Now, I got a lot of crap when Iwrote my first book off the
grid because I said live forfree on a sailboat.
Some guy goes yeah, well, youcan live for free under an

(06:33):
overpass, but what kind of lifedo you have?
and right yep, you can't livefor free on a sailboat.
Let me just the uh editor.
No, and you know, and it's,it's.
You know the ongoing there's alittle guy canoeing by um, the
uh, the ongoing expense of, of,of insurance and for cars and

(06:56):
gasoline and the rat race andelectric for your house and all
that crap, mortgages and taxesand all that crap you don't have
on boat, but you still havemaintenance costs.
You know, I I don't go tomarinas.
I can't afford marinas.
Um, I couldn't live thislifestyle.
Go, stay in a marina and I hatemarinas.

(07:16):
To me, if you're a marina,you're like in a trailer park on
your boat, because your boat isnot much more in the trailer
and when you put it in a marina,you're no longer facing the
wind, you're facing whateverdirection that dock is in and
sailboats are great because youopen the hatches and the breezes
come through and and you're.
You know, right now, um, thoughI'll pick the laptop up because

(07:40):
I might lose this, but you knowthere's nothing better than
this environment.
You know there's nothing betterthan this environment.
You know there's nobody.
I don't have a neighbor.
There are people walking by,not that I'm anti people, but
you know it's, it's much morefreeing.
I don't know if I went aroundin circles on that statement,
but it's.
It's more freeing.

(08:01):
You, I'm getting ready to I'llprobably spend a year in the
Philippines with the boat out ofthe water.
I'll be doing some work on itthere, can you hear me again.
Yes, I can.
I think you're back on theregular computer now.

What a nightmare.

I'll just keep talking, because I
think everybody's still thereand she's fading in and out.
For some reason I thought I'dbe the one that had the
technical problems, because I'mnot that, I'm a little
technically challenged and I hadTom Wargo that helped me
through all this stuff before.

You know this is my.
This is my 59th episode and I'tI've had a couple of glitches,
but this is crazy, like mycamera just quit.
My expensive HD camera justquit.
So I'm using my phone camera.

Welcome to my world.

So we're going to.
I've got it up on the computerso I can at least see all the
people that are coming in.
So, greg Skelton, um, I guessyou know some of these people.

Yep.

Uh, that's Greg Skelton, I know mischief maker,
was here last week.
Uh, let's see, We've got.
We've got some other peopleover on Instagram which I have
to pull back up.
But okay, so tell me youstarted in Orlando and go back

(09:40):
to that story.
Go back to that story.

I ended up in St Thomas and then I ended
up getting married.
I had two kids, raised family.
My life was motocross.
For about 10 years I racedroundy round cars when I was
really young and I knew that ifI ever owned a business, I had
to quit racing, because when yourace it you're an addict.
Everything goes into your car.
Everything you make goes intoyour car.

(10:09):
You live for racing Fridaynight, you work on the car all
week long.
So I said no more racing.
I didn't realize when I boughtmy son, when he was four and a
half years old, a little PW50that was getting back into
racing.
I thought I was just buying hima motorcycle for us to go have
fun on.
Well, that turned into afull-blown motocross career that

(10:30):
my son was in from the time hewas five until he was 14.
We traveled all over the UnitedStates and raced motorcycles.
It was just an awesome life.
My kid wouldn't have everwanted to spend that much time
with me if he wasn't racing.
He wanted to go to the track andI was the one taking him so
that I don't.
I wouldn't trade that off foranything.
So that was another hero of mylife.
And then, after that um, 2008,I'd flipped some properties, I

(10:56):
opened a bar.
The bar was successful for thefirst year and then 2008 hit and
the economy crashed and then Ijust barely held on to
everything for the next three orfour years and then, after the
um, after the bar went downhill,I I basically was flat on my

(11:17):
butt with nothing and I uh, Itook off for colorado for a ski.
I always wanted to be a ski bum,so I went out there and got a
job as a dishwasher and that wasa humbling experience.
I went from entrepreneur,restaurant owner, where
everybody wants to know yourname, to freaking guy washing
dishes, and if I ever toldanybody I own a restaurant, they

(11:39):
just look at me like, yeah,sure You're an old bum washing
dishes, there's a restaurant,I'm sure you own a restaurant,
but anyway.
So that was quite humbling.
So I skied for a season andthen I came back and I thought
to myself I was staying withsome friends and I couldn't even
buy a job back then.

(12:00):
And at that time the economywas so bad there was nothing
available.
So I ended up.
I thought I wonder if I can walkto Key West.
So I got a backpack, startedhiking down the road with a tent
and I'd walk down the coast andat nighttime I had a little

(12:22):
chair.
I'd go out and sit and watchthe sunset and I'd already had
scoped out where I was going toput my tent for the night,
because you couldn't do it inthe day.
You know they'd come and resthere, make you, run you off.
So as soon as it startedgetting darker, go hide up in
the mangoes and put my tent up.
I ended up doing that and Imade about 350 miles and then I

(12:43):
suffered an injury from walking.
I had this intense pain in myleg and I searched the internet
and said one of the reasons forthat is excessive walking.
That's it.

That was the end of the walking.

That was the end of the walking, but it
was my aha moment in life when Irealized I did not want to
chase success anymore.
You know, I've owned like 10different businesses, not all
successful or anything, but theyalways supported me and I was
always chasing that success.
I had to be successful.

(13:20):
I guess that was somethinginside me that just I wanted to
be great or something I don'tknow.
But so I, in that moment Idecided I don't want to do this
anymore.
I want to travel, but how can Itravel and not walk and I was
walking through stewart at thetime and I thought, mark man,

(13:40):
you're so stubborn, get, getanother boat.
It just all of a sudden hit meGet a boat.

That's a good place in Stewart to be looking
at sailboats.

Yeah, yeah.
At first I thought I'll justget a rowboat, put a little tent
on or something.
I was almost broke.
I still owned a house that mykids were living in.
The wife got remarried, so Igot the house back.
I put it up for sale and I madeand went to the Bahamas and

(14:16):
wrote the book Off the Grid andthat's what really developed my
mindset, living this lifestyle.
And then there's a whole otherchain of events that happened.

(14:36):
I lost my boat in HurricaneIrma, got wiped out and then,
through the grace of God,someone stepped up.

Were you in the Keys during Irma?
Yeah, I was in Key West.

I actually got hired.
It wasn't supposed to hit theKeys.
I got hired to move a guy'sboat up in Fort Lauderdale and
so I left.
And soon after I left Irmaturned and headed straight
towards Key West and at thattime all roads out of Key West
were one way.
I couldn't even turn around ifI wanted to.
So that made that decision forme.
This is what I'm going to do.
But I lost the boat and agentleman.

(15:21):
This is a story itself that Idon't want to get into right now
, but it's in my second book.
I guess I'm plugging the secondbook.
I'll tell you a portion.
A guy bought me Pampero.
He just didn't even know me.
He read my book off the gridand he said he wanted to learn
how to sail.
He wanted some adventure in hislife and wondered if I would

(15:45):
teach him how to sail and he wasgoing to buy a boat.
So I looked at four or fiveboats for him and on the last
one we looked at Pampero.
He bought it.
We went out to dinner thatnight and he says I'm going to
put this boat in your name.
I said well, obviously it meansyou don't want me doing

(16:05):
something with it.
That would cause you financialburden.
He goes no, I'm giving you thisboat.
I'm like what, what, yeah, andthat really turned my life
around.
Because Pampero is the boat thatcan be used for charter, I went
into charter business.
After that, I went into Airbnbin Pampero and it really changed

(16:26):
my financial situation.
And then I was in Key West forthe next five years, where when
in Key West?
I was right off of Fleming Key,anchored right there, okay.

Okay, you were in.

the anchor were anchoring, not
mooring yeah, yeah, I wasn't inthe mooring field, I was
anchored off and I ended upstarting a water taxi business,
running people around andrunning people out to airbnbs,
and and that's really whatturned the whole thing around
was getting this boat, whichallowed me to generate income in
order to get me to the pointwhere I am now.

(17:09):
Then I did Boy Scouts with theboat.
I did three or four seasons ofScouts where you do 12 trips in
a row with six Scouts for a week, just in and out, in and out,
in and out for three months,which was pretty rewarding.

Hey, mark, you've got a bunch of fans backstage,
you've got a lot of womenfollowing you.
Oh no, here's a dude.
All right, let me just bringhim up.
I don't understand that.
Mark accidentally gave out thelink to come into the studio, so
I'm just going to pull up somepeople here real quick so we can

(17:48):
see.

Sorry guys, I gave you the wrong thing
.
My alarm went off, the time waswrong, but I'm glad I
straightened it out.

Look at this, look at all these guys, he's
literally posting it, right yeah.

If you can read out their names,
because I can't see their names.
I barely see their faces.
I got Lisa Ford, susan, I Allright, let me talk to Lisa for a
second.
Okay, Lisa, her brother was myfirst friend that moved away
when I was like seventh gradeand then through Facebook, we

(18:24):
reconnected and Lisa's beengreat.
She's a woman of common senseand she always puts good stuff
on my Facebook.
Hey, Lisa.

Well, you also got Susan Ives Ward.
And because I'm Susan Ives.

She was my online editor when my
spelling and grammar was so bad.
She would check things out forme before I put them out there,
and she's been a great help.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay.

Hey, Susan hey.

We got Lance Okay.

You got to turn Lance's mic off.
Lance is going to say somethingthat's going to embarrass all
of us.
Love him like a brother andLisa oh no, he shut up.

What's up, guys?
You got a lot of fans, allright, I got to pull you all off
.
Now, hey, mark, hey now, hello,hey now, hey, now, hey, mark.
If y'all want to say something,now's the time I love you buddy
, hey now.

Hey, Mark, If y'all want to say
something, now's the time.
I love you buddy, Love you too,Mark, Be safe.
Love you guys, Be good.

Where are y'all from Before I pull you off?
Where are y'all from?

Ravon County.

Florida Okay.

Orlando, florida, all right, north
Carolina, woo-hoo, northCarolina.

Woo-hoo Mark seasoning soon come.
Where Seasoning soon come, I'mpulling y'all off now.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
As they say in B-Week , seasoning soon come.

Oh yeah, I think that's a Jimmy Buffett
song.
All right, bye, all right, seeyou.
Sorry, guys, I made a mistakeand sent you the wrong link.

That's fun.
We're having some fun with it,though we're having some fun.
What's one thing that landpeople, land lovers, lovers
totally misunderstand about thelifestyle you're living?

Well, first and foremost it's it's
like camping out.
You know, if you don't likegoing camping, the only thing is
you don't get dirt.
You know, when you camp out youusually have a dirt, but it's a
lot like camping out, unlessyou got a million dollar yacht,
which I don't get dirt.
When you camp out, you usuallyhave a dirt.
It's a lot like camping out,unless you got a million dollar
yacht, which I don't have.
Even then you're camping out.

(20:52):
If you got anything less than a40 foot, you're in a little
camper.
That's one thing you got to getused to.
You have to be a miser.
It's not because of that's onething you got to get used to,
you got to.
You know you have to be a miserand excuse me, it's not because

(21:14):
of money, it's because ofresources that are available to
you.
You know, your, your water, you, you know.
When the scouts came on board, Iused to tell him.
I said, hey, listen, you don'tturn the water on and start
brushing your teeth and let thewater run until you're done
brushing your teeth like you doin the house.
I mean, you have to be.
They call me the water Nazi,you know, because I'll be laying
in my bunk and I'll hear thatpump turn on and they could be

(21:35):
filling a water jug.
But it sounds like they're justtaking a shower and letting it
run forever and I jump up and Igo water conservation.
Water is a biggie.
And then it's other things too.
It's not just water, I meanpropane.
You, know yeah I've learned to.
I've learned to make ramnanoodles by heating the water up,

(21:56):
put the noodles in there andlet it sit on the counter for a
half hour and not even cook thema whole way, and and then they
hydrate and they're perfect.
Because where am I going to getpropane?
There's no propane out here.
It's not because you're being amiser and cheap.
It's because when you run outof your resource, you can't just
replenish it, so you have to.

(22:19):
Really there's no laundrymachine, there's no dishwasher.
My, my shirt I hang on the railand I hope it rains because
that means it gets washed.
You know, and then it's amazinghow you hang a shirt on the on
the rail for a week it smellsbetter than it did when you took

(22:42):
it off, you know.
So you learn all these littlethings that people don't realize
and you just can't even imaginedoing something like that if
you were living in a house.
You know, you just throw it ina clothes hamper and then dump
it all in the laundry machineand then run the washer.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
But you don't do that on boats.

Some boats if you have a
million-dollar boat might have awasher and a water maker.
They do.
I was fortunate for the lastthree years to have a water
maker.
But even then it takes power torun your water maker.
And you know, I'm all solar soI can make 15 gallons an hour

(23:23):
but it takes a lot of batteryjuice to do that.
And then, you know, through mycrossing my water maker went out
and so I haven't had a watermaker for about six months, but
luckily it's been raining likecrazy.
I have a rain catch on the boatso I always have water.
You know, my first go around inmy 30s I didn't have a water
maker and I was always hauling afive gallon jug out of my boat,

(23:45):
and it was.
I said I'd never do that again.
So right now I'm pretty setwith that.

Mary Cable, Mary Carol, Tobias says you clean up
good Mark.

Yeah, I went on.
I went on Facebook live withouta clean shirt on because I said
, hey guys, don't get shockedbecause I'm going to put a shirt
on for you.

It's like a button-down shirt, long sleeve
and everything.

This shirt was hanging behind my head
door there.
It was hanging back there, soit was nice and clean.
It almost looked pressed and Iwas like oh bingo.

Look at there, there is that, your one good
shirt that you keep on board Ihave two.

I have, uh, I have this one and I have a
black one, uh and um.
So, yeah, I will tell yousomething I've learned that is
amazing.
Just, it's not Lysol brand,it's just a spray bottle, but in
the islands there seem to be anabundance of flies and if you

(24:53):
just take dish soap and water,for some reason it kills flies.
No, yeah, and you don't have to.
You know, the fly can be layingon your leg and you can spray
it.
You're not worrying aboutputting chemicals on you like
you would if it was some kind offly spray.
You know, and and that's how Ikeep my keep the fly population

(25:16):
when they come on board is Ijust spray them with this, uh,
soapy water and they theyfreaking that's it.

You heard it here on the salty podcast.
That's the tip of the day rightthere.

I don't know why everybody doesn't do
that?
Because it definitely, uh, youknow, sometimes I have to hit
them twice if they're a big fly,you know, but uh, it, it's
amazing.
I've used a whole bunch.
At first I thought it was acertain type of dish soap I was
using, but I've used two orthree different kinds since then
and it always works.

Yeah, I've noticed certain times.
All of a sudden it just seemslike the boat fills up with
these big black flies and I'mnot sure where they come from.
They're hard to get rid of.

I said this in the Bahamas the first.
The first time I said it was uh, I was, I'm in the bahamas, off
in the island, and I'm um,let's see, I think I was on the
windward side of the island andI'm cooking hamburgers.
No, I was on the lee side ofthe island.
So I'm cooking hamburgers.

(26:24):
Why would not be on the leeside?
But anyways I.
So I'm cooking hamburgers.
Why would I not be on the leeside?
But anyways, I'm cooking ahamburger and all of a sudden
flies come here and I'm likegoing alright, we're downwind
from this island, a half a mileaway, and these flies are
smelling this hamburger.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I mean, what the heck ?

they hover in on stuff like that.
So yeah, yeah, it's what theheck?

you know, they're just like they hover in on stuff
like that.
So, yeah, yeah, it's a dimbastard's bite to bruce williams
, yeah, or when you're in thekeys, well, I'm in the like, I
anchor in the everglades.
What?

and really, if you're in marco or
any of these places, whathappens at sunset and sunrise?
Yeah, the no-see-ums andmosquitoes.
You probably can't see it onmine.
Let me see if I can turn this alittle bit right.
There is my mosquito net.
I sleep is my mosquito net, soI have a I, I sleep.
Oh, sorry about that.

(27:27):
So I I sleep in the cockpitmost of the time even though I
can't stand to be down belowwhen I'm sailing by myself
underway.
Um, I, when I, when I go tosleep, I sleep like a dead body.
And and I, you know, whenyou're a solo sailor you need to
be more in tune.
So if I sleep in the cockpit, Ican hear the wind changes.

(27:48):
You know, my AIS alarm is rightthere.
It will always wake me up.
And so I sleep right here inthe cockpit and use that
mosquito net.
I put it over top of me If I'min anchorage.
It works out well.

Yeah, do you need it when you're underway?

Not when I'm cruising and I only put it
up in Fiji I hadn't used it everuntil then, because usually it
moves.

Uh-oh, I think he froze up this time.
Yeah, oh no, we'll give them aminute.
Can you guys hear me?

Yeah, I'm back.
I just realized my star link,dropped the feed, oh okay, okay,
it happens.

So how big is that ?
I'm just curious, how big isthat mosquito?

net.
It's a pretty good size.
I got a rope running across thetop and it'll go run it.
It goes underneath my cushionin the front, it goes underneath
the cushion behind me, so it'snot actually sitting up or
anything, so it works out well.
That's cool.
I think every sailor after meusing this thing.

(29:07):
I don't think I'll ever bewithout a mosquito net.
I've even used it down below,tied to my hatch above.

Mosquitoes.
As you probably know, they'reusually not a big deal unless
you're in some low harbor, youknow inland, or you know Bruce
says show us the bug spray onemore time.
He doesn't know, it's the Lysol.
Oh, there it is.

Spray bottle.
What I like about it?
For some reason flies land onme, maybe because I'm a solo
sailor and I only shower once aweek.
But I shouldn't tell peoplethat.
But I did shower for thispodcast.
But I got to tell people that.
But I did shower for thispodcast.
But I got to tell you the truthI didn't put deodorant on
because I figured you couldn'tsmell me anyway.

We can't.
No, you look good.
That's important, that's theimportant part.
You look good.

The cool thing is, if a fly lands on you
, you can spray your leg andit's not going to do anything.

Yeah, I'm like you .
I sail solo a lot most of thetime and I just sleep right
there in the cockpit.
And I must wake up every 15minutes or 10 minutes and check
make sure I'm still on track andlook around, make sure
nothing's going on, and then Ijust go back to sleep.

Yeah, I do a couple things.
One, I set my alarm for twohours if I think I'm really
tired.
I usually do the same thing.
I'll wake up every so often,but if I'm really exhausted, if
I had a challenging day, I willset my alarm for two hours.
And another thing I've learnedis if there's an island, even if
it's 10 miles away, I steer tothe left or the right of it.

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So if I don't wake up in time, Idon't run into the island,
because the first time I eversoloed by myself and fell asleep
, I'd sailed to Guatemala, whichwas about 1200 miles, and when
I hit the English Channel thatruns along in front of Belize
and goes up to the Rio, I all ofa sudden I'm in this peaceful,
beautiful, you know, beam reachsail, no waves Cause I'm on the

(31:16):
inside of the reef and thechannel is about five miles wide
and I had like 30 miles to go,and but it was at the end of my
trip and I was exhausted and Ifell asleep during midday and
slept for five hours straightand when I woke up, I went holy
crap were you on the beach?

where did you?

you woke up luckily, I hadn't hit my
destination yet.
I still had another, you know10 miles to go.
But that's when I?
I said, well, I can, I'm afraidif I fall asleep I'll run go.
But that's when I?
I said, well, I, I'm afraid ifI fall asleep I'll run in.
So that's when I learned totake my course and take it off
of.
So if I was asleep I'd pass myisland and not run into it.

So so bruce says talk my brother into sailing
adventure this sunday bay stlouis to bond balka.

I don't know where that is.
Bruce Do you Fouca Grant.

Well, it doesn't say that.
It says Bon F-O-U-C-A, so maybehe's Tell us what you mean,
bruce.
So tell us your, where did youstart this trip?
You got the boat and I thinkDid you say you got this boat in
the Keys.

Yeah, in 2016.
But you know, so I had it forquite a while, but I went to.
I actually was at Anchor onenight, right before the last Boy
Scout season, and a guy hit meon a center console doing about
40 miles an hour.
He went up and over the backend of my boat and just crushed

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the back quarter of my swimsteps and I rigged it so I could
finish up the Boy Scout season.
And I rigged it so I couldfinish up the Boy Scout season.
But then, before I took off onmy trip, I sailed up to
Titusville and we hauled theboat out of the water and we
were doing the repairs before Itook off.

(33:20):
This was right before I took offon my trip and something
happened.
I don't know what happened tothis day.
I fell off the back of the boat, about seven feet off the
ground, and I cracked six ribsand broke my collarbone, and I
still, to this day, all Iremember was at one point
feeling a breeze going by me,and that was me gaining speed,

(33:41):
falling off the back of the boat, and so I was in the hospital
for a couple of days.
So that's how I ended upstarting my trip.
I healed, finished the boat upand then took off with six
broken ribs, and that was inNovember two and a half years
ago.

Okay, so you left.
Where did you leave?
You left from?

Capn Mark J. Reinhar (34:04):
Titusville , Florida.

Okay, is that east coast?

Yeah, it's directly east of Orlando.
It's where the rockets go upCape Canaveral.

Okay, all right, and so where did you?

go.
I sailed down the coast andwent to.
I sailed all the way down.
I think we took off out ofJupiter and crossed over the
Bahamas, did the Bahamas, tookoff out of Jupiter and crossed
over the Bahamas, did theBahamas and then from there to
St Thomas I'm just going to fastforward through all this but

(34:38):
sailed from there to St Thomasand then went from St Thomas all
the way down island to Grenadawhere I island, hopped all the
way back because I always wantedto do the Caribbean chain of
islands.
It's not really a sailing theworld thing.
But I always wanted to do this.
So I went down to Grenada,sailed all the way back up to St

(34:59):
Thomas and timed it so I coulddo another Boy Scout season and
put money in the sailing kitty.

When you say the Boy Scout, because I've known
captains that do that in theKeys.
So when did you do that?

Sorry to backtrack In the summers.
I did it for three or foursummers.
It was June, july and August.

What year?

I left in November.
The last Boy Scout season wasprobably two years ago.
Okay, boy Scout season wasprobably two years ago.

Okay.

In my leaving and sailing around the
world I stopped back in StThomas and did three months of
Boy Scouts.
Before I took off I went fromSt Thomas to Puerto Rico, to
Dominican Republic, to Jamaica,down to the Sandblast Islands.
I picked up two girl crewmembers in St Thomas and they

(36:00):
jumped ship in Puerto Rico.
No, they jumped ship inDominican Republic.
I think they thought they weregoing to go on a sailing charter
and be catered to.

That's not how I roll.
No, they had to work.
Did they have to cook and stuff?

Yeah, yeah, they complained that the
dishes were dirty.
I'm like wash them.
Oh my gosh, it was bad.
I want to plug my second bookhere.
My second book I wrote from thetime I got this book.
The amazing journey that got methis book and then built it and
all that and then it's also alot of my book is the crew

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members I picked up for thefirst year, which in turn made
me a solo sailor.
I don't want to deal with themanymore.
I've had some great crews, soanybody that's been my crew that
were awesome you know, you guysare great.
The ones that weren't awesomeI'm sure they're not listening,
so I have to worry about thatyou know I prefer it.

I like being by myself in the past.
Bruce, I'm up for anything.
We'll just do it.
I'm a very good galley hand.
Bruce, are you asking me Ishould go sail with him, or are
you asking me I go sail with you?

He's wanting to jump on a boat.
Yeah, I guess.
So the problem with me pickingup crew now is my journeys are
so long.
You know, before in thecaribbean I could pick you up
and you could stay on the moreabout a week, a month, six weeks
and there was another islandwith an airport you could jump
on right.
But now it's not like that.

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I mean, we're married, you comeon the boat, you're on the boat
for six weeks.

If we don't get along, it's gonna be a long six
weeks and you have to reallywant to be there to make a six
week passage or a four weekpassage.
Yeah, you gotta really want tobe there.
It's not for everybody, so tellus about the.
Uh.
Well, okay, I'm getting aheadof myself, all right, where did
you go after?
Okay, I'm getting ahead ofmyself, all right.

Where did you go after that, you went
through the panama canal.
Yeah, so after, uh, thesandblast islands, I, um well,
first off, I picked up a crewmember in dominican republic and
this guy, he spoke, he spoke noenglish, he was, uh, ukrainian
or russian and uh, and I waslike man, he spoke sp and at the
time I had two girls on boardand I thought, well, these girls

(38:32):
speak Spanish, these guys aregoing to be talking the whole
time and I don't know whatthey're saying.
I didn't want that situationeither.
You know I've been in thosesituations and so I told him no,
he persisted.
He he says man, once I meet you, we're communicating through
Facebook.
Once you meet you, we'll befine.
I'm a hard worker blah, blah,blah.

(38:53):
And then finally I said allright.
So he came to the boat To thisday he was the best mate I've
ever had.
He was so awesome.
He treated me like a king.
He cooked all my meals for me,he loved plate presentation and
alex's name.
And he was, he was just awesomeand and he spoke very little

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english.
And at one time when we werecrossing from jamaica to the
sandblast islands about 500 milerun, we get to the sandblast
islands and my my tracks allblew out of my freaking main,
the.
The tracks just ripped rightout of the main and so I
couldn't control the boat,because now my main is up there
like a spinnaker.
You know, it's just collectingwind and I'm like Alex and he

(39:40):
tells the story.
Yeah, I was dead asleep.
Next thing, I know, I hear myname.
Next thing, I know I'm standingon top of the hardtop.
He was up top.
Next thing I know it, I'mstanding on top of the hardtop.
He was up top.
He tried collecting the sail,but he told me to turn the boat
so he could collect it, and whenhe did, it caught wind and
threw him off the top of theboat.

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He landed on stanchion on theside of the boat, snapped the
stanchion in half and just solucky, he didn't break a bone or
or this, that or the other, andso, anyways, he got back on the
boat and I said, alex, whathappened?
He goes.
I don't know one minute.
I'm doing this.
The next thing I know it is bye, bye, alex he didn't have one

(40:24):
hand on the boat, did he?
hey how you doing.
I'm on a call right now hand onthe boat, did he?

hey how you doing.
I'm on a call right now.
Nice to see you.
I do have a question over hereon uh instagram what's the name
of the second book?

um first off the grid.
So, um, I think I'm gonna uhsomeone.
Um, I had a uh temporary editorand she suggested this and I
like it, so I think I'm going toname it off the grid still.

Oh, okay, off the grid still.

Okay, cool I'm hoping it'll be out.
I just sent the message to theeditor a couple of days ago to
say I'm ready to go full on getit published.
So I'm hoping last off the grid.
Just for some reason we didn'tplan it this way.
It came out on my birthday,june 12th, uh, 2010.

(41:15):
So I'm thinking maybe the thestars will align and it'll come
out on june 12th this year too,so that'd be cool oh, you broke
up when you said the year.

What time, what year did that come out?

the first one came out 2016, on my
birthday okay, I didn't evenplan it.
It's just you look at it sayspublished june 12th.

I'm like that's cool, so maybe, maybe this one
will come out at the same timewell, I've got, um, a link in in
the description for youtube and, uh, facebook for the book.
So if somebody wants to clickon the link down there, it'll
take them to Amazon.
So, off the grid.
If you want to order the book,if you want to get the Kindle,

(41:55):
you want to get the paperback,use my link.
Please, please, do.
If you would, mark, if you'dask all your people here to
subscribe to my channel,whatever platform they're
watching.

Yeah, please subscribe to our channel.
I never understand why peopledon't subscribe, because it's
really no skin off your back.
I've really enjoyed talkingwith her.
She seems to bring ininteresting people like me.
Of course, I'm just pluggingmyself, why not?

subscribe to her.
I interview some reallyinteresting people, like you
said, all kinds of boats.
Some people are going aroundthe world.
Some people went around theworld, got pirate stories, got
all kinds of good stories.
You have people that won theraces, the different races.
Even some famous sailors havebeen on here and even, like

(42:52):
people who just go local, youknow, just sail around in their
own area.
So we got a little somethingfor everybody.
But thank you for that.
She's loco and a world traveler, so okay, so you went to the

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panama canal after the sandblast islands, and this is
another good story.

Um, I'll try to make it as quick as
possible no, no, please I hadtwo crew members, three crew
members on board, one of themactually all three of them had
been in the caribbean on onboard.
So I thought, man, these guys,you know they're tried and true
and they'll be fine.
And so they got on board and andthere we went through the canal

(43:37):
, we, we set sail and we madeabout 200 miles offshore sailing
and I went to crank the motorup and put it in gear.
Bam, all hell broke loose.
And I went to crank the motorup and put it in gear, blah,
blah, blah, all hell broke loose.
And I had some work done on theboat when I was on the hard in
Panama and I couldn't do thework because of my broken ribs.

(44:03):
So I hired a guy to work on myboat, which I very seldom ever
do, and he replaced my cutlass,bearing on yeah, and he didn't
use case hardened steel boatsbolts.
He thought he'd put shiny,stainless steel bolts in there.
Well, stainless, shiny steelwith lock washer nuts don't hold

(44:26):
oh really I really didn't knowthis.
But um, he and, and.
So when we sailed, the prop wasspinning the whole time for the
first 200 miles and the boltsall fell out except for one.
So when I cranked the motor up,all hell broke loose.
At first, I must pick somethingup off, the must be something

(44:48):
in the prop, you know.
And so jumped over the side,props clean, get back in, crank
it again, and it all hell brokeloose and I figured out the
problem.
So I bolted it back togetheragain, cranked the motor up, and
that vibration cracked myexhaust manifold.

(45:09):
So when I cranked it up,water's just blasting all over
the place.

That's the elbow.
Is that the elbow?
Yeah, yeah.

So I put a patch on that, the best I
could with big old hose clamps.
And what had happened was,because of that crack, it
allowed salt water back in themotor and the motor was locked
up Right.
So I'm out there, I pull theinjectors out, get the water out

(45:41):
of it.
No, the water got in therebefore I fixed the elbow, before
I knew that there was a breakin the elbow.
I fixed the, I pulled theinjectors, got all the water,
got in there before I fixed theelbow, before I knew that there
was a break in the elbow.
I fixed the, I pulled theinjectors, got all the water out
, put it back together, crankedit up.
That's when all water startedblasting all over the place.

I had that happen before.

That's why I'm shaking, I'm going yep,
I was done, I was done.
So we cranked the motor upbecause there was no wind to
sail, but we had to motor backto Panama.
Now.
We had no motor and we had nowind, so I had to tie.

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I tied the dinghy off to theside, called hip tie, and crank
the motor up and put the gastank on the boat so I could keep
filling the gas tank up.
And the dinghy pushed me back200 miles to panama, where then,
to make this long story short,I had to put a new motor in the
boat oh, wow in panama.

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We stopped for about a month,six weeks.
We got turned around reallyquick, got the new motor in and
just before I, the day beforeI'm we're getting ready to leave
we provisioned the boat withall this food.
And the day before we wereleaving I was feeling um under
the weather and I was in theback sleeping.
And I hear these peoplewhispering on my boat and I'm

(47:11):
like, oh, that's pretty nice andnot wanting to wake me up or
let me sleep.
And then I get up and I findout they packed all their gear.
They stayed around through thewhole process New motor,
everything being done and saidwe're not going, we don't trust
the boat, we don't trust thecaptain, we don't trust the boat

(47:33):
.
Oh, we don't trust the captain,we don't trust the boat.
Oh no, they said that to me.
I said well, I got only onething to say to you Get off my
boat.

Here's your hat.
What's your hurry?
Yeah?

They ended up getting off the boat
and there's this guy on the docknext to me, adam, he's my buddy
.
Now he's in australia, he, hewas on, he's 26 years old, on a
26 foot boat, solo, sailingacross the south pacific, and
I'm like going, all right, thisguy is more than half my age,

(48:08):
less less than half my age howare you going to say it?
His boat is half the size ofmine and he's going to do this
by himself.

What's his name?

Adam, I can't remember his last name,
but I've got to get you in touchwith him.
He'd be a good one to interview, yeah.

I'm trying to think if I talked to him already
, but I don't remember.

I haven't asked Adam.
He's from Canada, I can'tpronounce, I don't remember how
to pronounce his last name.
It begins with an S, sadler orsomething like that.
But I thought to myself, youknow, I've got ten times the
experience this kid did.
He had three years sailing, youknow.
And I said I'm, I'm doing, I'mgoing, and that's I guarantee.

(48:53):
I, I'm all.
I can almost promise you.
If he hadn't been on the dock,I probably wouldn't have solo
sailed, I probably would havewaited, found crew, because I,
you know, 4 000 miles, that's,that's a big undertaking.
So, but the fact that he wasleaving, I'm like man, I can't
let this young kid show me upand uh, and I took off and I

(49:15):
went, and you know, and is heokay?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I finally caught up withhim because I suffered some PTSD
from my crossing.

Oh yeah, you're going to tell us that story, so
let me set you up on this.
Let me set you up.
He's like I don't know if youwant me to tell this story,
because nobody will want to sail.
I'm like no, we hear them allhere on the Salty Podcast.
People need to know what canhappen, right.

Yep, so hit it All right.
So let me go to the story.
I'll just go right to thepunchline.
But you know I have people mywhole life, especially doing Boy
Scouts.
You know I do what is that?
Six times 12.
I do 100 scouts a year for fouryears, 400 scouts.

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They all ask me the samequestion have you ever been
scared?

Yeah.

And I always say no, I don't get
scared, you know, I I never have.
I just I might be challenged, Imight be cautious, I might be
on edge, but scared that's maybedifferent names for it, but
I've never been scared.

You know, my answer is always I respect it, I
know something could happen,but you take all the precautions
you can.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
It's a risk reward you know, and it's not like I
don't- have five ways to ask forhelp.

you know that's true and it's not like I don't
have five ways to ask for help.

You know , yeah, yeah, that's true.
So, anyways, I had another guyafter the fact ask me if I've
ever been scared, and that'swhen I realized that.
You know, yes, now I have been.
Okay, I'll tell you real quickabout this one guy that asked me
that he was a master.

(51:11):
You know, I heard a story of,uh, dr wayne dyer one time took
a trip on an airplane and hesays I'm going to talk to this
guy throughout the whole tripand I'm not going to say a fake
single thing about me, I'm justgoing to ask him questions about
himself and the whole trip.
He just asked him questionsconstantly and if he, if the
asked him something, he'd justturn it back around and put it

(51:32):
back on him.
And after the trip theyinterviewed the guy and the guy
said he says well, what do youthink about that guy that you're
flying with, talking about DrDyer?
He says you know, he's the mostinteresting man I've ever met
in my life.
And he didn't know anythingabout him.
He and he didn't know anythingabout him, he was just listening

(51:52):
to him, he was pullinginformation from the guy
listening to him and I thinkthat's that's a big lesson to
learn that you know, if you'reever in a situation where you
feel uncomfortable, if you justask somebody a question about
themselves, you're no longer,the spotlight is no longer on
you and you can be, comfortablein any situation yeah, it's an
old, old idea, you know.

Try to get out of yourself yeah, so anyways he.

He asked me if I'd ever been scared and
he kept.
He pulled it out of me and Ihad this shirt on.
This friend of mine got me andit says soul survivor.

Badass of the south I saw those, I saw the
shirt that you, that you haveyeah so it was, for it was
pretty cool.

But so this guy started asking me and
he, he says you know, here I am,you're still, oh, stand there
looking up at this mango tree, Ijust love mangoes, and.
And he just stopped me and saysyou never know, you're just
sitting here looking at a mangotree.
Next thing, you know you're inthis big old conversation, but
uh, so anyways, back to thesouth pacific.

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So I I had almost 3 000 milesunder my belt at this point.
Some things happened nothingmajor along the trip and I'm
solo sailing it and then pastthe galapagos, and I have about
700 miles to go, and myautopilot started kicking out.
It started malfunctioning about3,000 miles and so about, maybe

(53:19):
even sooner than that, itstarted just failing.
And you know, being a solosailor, you got to have
autopilot.
Absolutely, you know this.
Oh oh, you can tie the helmdown, you can throw a buck.
I heard all the freaking thingsyou could do after the fact and
oh you should have done this.
I'm like dude until you're in 10to 12 foot seas with 25 to 30

(53:42):
knots of wind, don't tell me howyou're going to throw a bucket
off your port side and steeryour freaking boat, because this
is the most ridiculous thingI've ever heard.
I've not heard the bucket one,oh yeah, well, one guy and I
like this one guy's idea.
But you know, even rigging itwould be almost like you take

(54:04):
your spinnaker pole and you puta bucket on each side and then
you can use the spinnaker poleto steer your boat.
I'm like 10 to 12.
It's hard to even hold on tothe back of the boat.
You know, yeah, much less youknow anyway.
So I heard all the stories andand so, anyways, I'm, I'm
underway with the uh auto pilotand it's break-ins, break-ins

(54:27):
brain.
Finally, it's shut downcompletely.
So I'm hand steering.
I I haven't hand steeredpampero from the day I put my
autopilot on in 2018.
If I'm driving into a marina,I'm using the autopilot oh,
really, that's a spoil.
You know, it's just I don't, Ijust don't even steer the boat

(54:49):
anymore.
It's just like so much easier,you know.
You don't have to just standthere and watch where it's going
.
You just got the autopilot on.
You want to turn?
You just turn the dial.
It's so much easier, right.
So I literally hadn't handsteered my boat.
I mean, with the scouts I makethem steer it, you know, to
practice and learn the sail andthat kind of stuff but when I'm
on the boat I don't think I'vesailed a mile in five years

(55:19):
without the autopilot.
so what that did was I didn'trealize it when I put my
autopilot in I had to cut thisbig piece of steel out of the
way for the ram to go throughthere, and then I rebuilt steel
up over the top of it and backdown again and I had to
restructure the whole quadrantback there.
And this this one was on apulley that was on that quadrant
.
Well, in those big seas, inthat big wind condition, I was

(55:41):
really stressing the steeringout, I had to hand steer.
Well, that caused the cable tocome off of the frickin' pulley
and it just got wrapped behindit and just discombobulated.
That's a sailor termDiscombobulated the cable

(56:03):
because it was running off ofthe pulley on the bolt that goes
through it or whatever, anddestroyed it.
It just completely destroyedthe cable.
I tried putting it back on, I'dget it back on, I'd tighten it
all up, I'd go through thiswhole process.
I'm in 10 to 12-foot seas nowjust getting thrown and pitched

(56:23):
and rolled all over the place.
That's not the best part ofsailing the place yeah, that's
not the best part of sailing soI did it back on and it would
last for about half a turn ofthe wheel and then come back off
and it wasn't being fixed.
Well, at one point I'm tryingto put it back on and I had the
autopilot on, but it wasintermittent and all of a sudden

(56:45):
the autopilot came on and itcrushed my hand between the
quadrant and the steel and theram just kept pushing and it
about cut my hand right in half.
And you're in the middle of thePacific, by myself pinned to the
quadrant with my hand screamingbloody murder that you could

(57:08):
probably hear 700 miles away onshore.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Oh my gosh.

It ripped the whole top of my hand
off and you could my hand.
I've got a video of it.
I've only shown it to a fewpeople.
I sent it to my doctor when Iwas out there, but you could see
my tendons moving in my hand.
It was like Terminator.
And so now I've got this injuryon my hand.
I'm starting to break out in acold sweat.

(57:36):
So I come up in the cockpit,I'm standing here holding on and
I'm just sweating badly andthen all of a sudden I notice
I'm peeing in myself and Ididn't even realize it and I
realized I'm going into shock.
Oh no, I'm like holy shit, I'mnot a medic and I don't know
about what happens when you goin shock.

(57:57):
But I said I know I have torecover myself.
So I laid down on the cockpithere and I just started trying
to calm myself and breathe.
I didn't realize I was you knowthat far gone.
But when you, when you peeyourself, you don't know you're
being yourself.

you're something you're just like what's going on
here, oh my god.

So I sat there for I don't know how long
and just focused on my mind andbreathing and relaxing and
breathing, and and then I just Ifinally got better, to where I
felt like I could.
I was okay and I went down andI got this huge first aid kit.
It's massive yeah like.

(58:40):
You know what's not in there?
What sensors or or butterflies.

Oh no, why not?
I don't know.

I was like are you freaking?
I went through the whole thing.
I'm like, are you freaking,kidding me?
You know, my doc said set me upwith freaking everything, to
numb it, to sew it up to.
You know everything I possiblyneed.
But there was none of that inthere, so I had to duct tape the
thing across, to pull, allright.
So I pull it back over and andthis was my main goal was

(59:19):
infection in my hand.
I'm 700 miles adrift out of thesea and if I get an infection,
you you know that would be it,and then, through my not
thinking correctly and being alldiscombobulated, somehow my
bilge pumps got turned off.

Oh no.

And I had a problem with being in
these big seas.
The waves were crashing overthe back end that I put on and
there were some drill holesthrough the back stern of the
boat and the back end was filledup with water and the water was
coming in and I had, you know,a huge amount of water in the
bottom of the boat and I hadthis friend of mine that was.

(01:00:02):
I was communicating with him.
My Starlink wouldn't even work.
The boat was thrashing aroundso much Starlink wasn't working.
And also I didn't want starlinkon because the amount of power
it took to right and and I knewI needed every battery power I
needed I didn't need to havefacebook, you know.
So I started, I shut it downand people started freaking out

(01:00:25):
because they couldn't get a holdof me.
But I shut that all down and mybuddy, I told him.
I said, listen, reach out to USCoast Guard, reach out to
Polynesian Coast Guard, callwhoever you need to go.
I want you to have the correctnumber and the procedure to go
through in case I have to do amayday.

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I mean, this is the closestI've ever felt, like you know.

Capn Tinsley (01:00:50):
Well, at least tell them where you are, in case
you need to call them, and itneeds to be quick.

Capn Mark J. Reinhardt (01:00:56):
Yeah, Well they had my tracker.
My tracker was on my Garmintracker.
They knew where I was, but Iwas like you know.

Well, I mean, tell the Coast Guard where you are.

Yeah, yeah, tell them there's a
potential issue.
Yeah, yeah, I need you to knowwho to call.
I don't need you callinginformation when I'm getting
ready to sink to find out thenumber to who to call.
So he said, okay, I'll do that.
So the next morning I wake upand I I built an emergency bilge
pump and hose to pump the boatout, because my bilge pumps

(01:01:29):
weren't working and I didn'tknow why, but I still had
battery in my lithium battery.
So I just wired it and startedpumping overboard and I finally
got most of the water out so youhad an additional, because I
have an extra pump on mine too,with a long hose yeah, yeah,
okay, I was making hoses fit.

(01:01:52):
Now I got one hose happens, butI was, you know, and it got to a
point that I was in such asituation.
It was like, okay, we have todo this in steps.
First get the pump you know,that might take me an hour or
however long, and I get the pump.
Okay now.
Now you gotta get the wirestrippers.
Get the pump.
You know that might take me anhour or however long and I get
the pump.
Okay now.
Now you got to get the wirestrippers, get the wire

(01:02:13):
strippers.
Okay, now you know you lay onthe I laid on the sole, both you
know, while I'm doing all thisand then I get up, do a little
bit more and then I go lay backdown and, uh, I finally got it
all rigged and this, that andthe other, but then I called my
buddy and I said, hey, I justwant to make sure you got a hold

(01:02:34):
of that of the Coast Guard.
Who to call?
He said, Mark, when you told meyou're sinking, I told him to
come get you.
Oh, and I'm like holy crap, youcan't do that man.
The captain of the boat is theonly guy that can do a mayday,
you know.
And I was like I I'm what, I'mlike no, and I said call them
back.
And so he called back andpolynesian coast guard wanted to

(01:02:56):
talk to me.
They weren't going to call offthe.
They rerouted a 650 foot tankerlike 100 miles.
I was away.
I've been on the way for likefour hours heading towards me
and I got on.
I got on.
I had to.
First I got a landline thatwouldn't go through and I'm

(01:03:17):
texting through my Garmin and he, he made me repeat three
different texts Tell me yourname, the name of your boat, and
tell me you're calling off therescue.
So I had to do that like threetimes and they called it off.
And and now I'm glad I did, butat that time I'm like Mark,
what the frick is wrong with you?

Yeah.

Are you this guy that's going to go down
with your ship?
Are you so fricking stubborn orwhatever it is, that you can't
just say okay, I'm done, youknow?
Just say okay, I'm done, youknow.
And so I finally got ittogether.
I found out that I turned mybattery switches in the wrong
position for the bilge pumps towork.

That's what I was going to say, and so they
weren't broken.

They were just yeah, just stupid, but
I was so, not myself, so thisis after the injury.

You're still a little not yourself.

I'm still all messed up and on the
morning of me laying on thefloor, I mean I had to lay on
the solo boat.
I couldn't lay anywhere elseI'd be thrown out of a bunk or
whatever.
I'm 10 to 12 foot waves and theback end is slamming and the
waves are hitting and you knowI'm like is the back end of my
boat going to fall off?
You know all those naysayers,are they right?

You know, oh yeah, cause you, you extended your,
you extended your boat.

So I'm all these thoughts are going
through my head and I'm on thefloor of the boat and then I get
a text through my Garmin and Ihad a router, Tom Wargo, and he
was with me from way before thebeginning.
He started following me andthen he became my router.
He's my IT guy.
He helped me with the computerand all this mic and all this

(01:05:02):
stuff and he would find outwhere I had to go to check into
customs.
He'd give me all thatinformation.

Oh, that's nice.

Yeah, he was so awesome.
I get a text from Tom Mark.
this is and he and I have fallenout because he's like Mark,
just lash the helm down.
I follow sailors and they, youknow they do it all the time
Just lash your helm down.
I'm like I got 700 miles to go.
I can't, it's not going to work.
Yeah, this was before the 700.

(01:05:32):
This was before the steeringwent out.
This was just, you know, withauto, without autopilot, I'm
like I can't make it 700 mileswithout autopilot, I can't.
But I'm going to be sleepingfor eight hours going every
which way, yeah, yeah it'd behard to sleep, that's for sure
yeah, so anyways, I get a text.

Tom died that night of a heart attack oh my
gosh and I'm like oh, I'm sosorry I'm like, mark, are you
nuts?

I mean, this is affecting other people's
lives.
Now you know what you're doing.
You know when it's just me?
I'm like it's just me.

Oh, you think he had a heart attack because he
was worried about you?
No, I honestly don't.
That's what was going throughyour mind.

At the time it was.
I knew that he had someproblems and they didn't know
what was wrong with him.
I knew that it wasn't you know,ultimately my situation that
caused it at all.
I may, I might, have helped italong, I don't know.
But yeah, so that was on myplate.

Did you know about it that night?

I didn't know it.
It was the next morning when Imorning, when I was going
through all this crap, that hitme and I was like holy crap, I
mean, how much more can you puton my plate?
How did you know his wife textme, my Garmin in reach still get

(01:07:05):
messages from?
And so I was like this isanother point.
This was the lowest point of mywhole life.
That morning on the floor andI'm like going.
You know, dying would be easierthan what I'm going through
right now.

(01:07:25):
I don't know if anybody's beenthat hopeless but, I had no
steering I had, you know, I'm700 miles an hour, completely
uncomfortable.

You're uncomfortable.

There's just no way to relax in those
kind of waves I'm like holy shit.
But you know, I know I wouldnever take my own life.
So you know I had to endure it.
There was nothing else I coulddo, would never take my own life
.
So I, you know I had to endureit.
There was nothing else I coulddo.
And then so I was just I.
Finally I started um, I, I tiedthe, um the rudder off with

(01:07:58):
ropes down below and um, so Icould, I could get it to hold,
um, I could hold, now hold acourse.
I couldn't hold a course in thedirection I needed to go, but I
could hold a course 90 degreesoff of the direction I needed to
go.

I'm trying to picture you tying off the rudder
.

So you know the rudder quadrant that
the cable runs over.

Yeah, do you have a cable type, Like okay, so
underneath my seat is the okay.

So there's, there's a they call it
a quadrant, and there's a cablethat goes one way and there's a
cable that goes the other way.
If you have a cable steeringand those cables go down over
rollers and come up to the helmand go to a chain, okay, it
turns the steering.
So you figured something out.
Well, I figured out a way thatI could go north or south, but I
really need to go west ifanything was better than sitting
in those 10 to 12s, not goinganywhere.

(01:09:00):
So, and I saw from adam adamwas ahead of me by 10 days and
he kept posting how he had nowind but the wind chart were
saying he had the same wind Ihad, but he was in the doldrums.
So I'm like my wind chart, mywind app, is not telling me
correctly.
So if I go north I think I canget less wind.
So I would.

(01:09:21):
I sailed for about three daysand everybody's going mark,
there's nothing to the north.
There's nothing to the north.
I'm like I don't care, I gottaget out of these big waves and
wind.
So I finally got to where itcalmed down a little bit.
You know it was still blowing,but it wasn't, you know, 10 to
12 and 25 to 30 knots of wind,and so it calmed way down.
At that point I was able towork on the boat better.

(01:09:44):
I'd had a few days of rest andrecuperation.
How was your hand?
My hand seemed to be fine.
I had spraying it withantibiotics constantly.
The strange thing is thisdoctor was on my boat on a
charter and she says you need toget Manuka honey on your boat.

(01:10:06):
I'm like, okay, she goes, thatis the best thing ever and I had
it on the boat because I boughtit like five years ago, never
used it and then, um, I'd sprayit and keep it covered all the
time, but it wasn't reallyhealing.
That being covered just kept itall gooey.
And so then, finally, I put themanuka honey on there and quit

(01:10:29):
covering it and it's gab over.
I mean, I had an inch of gapwith no skin and I'm like is it
going to grow, this skin?
What's going to go on here?

but that's what you see right now.
Hold it up and suck.
There's, there's not.

You can't see much of it right now,
you know, but for, but for notgetting stitches.
It doesn't look that bad.
I don't know if you can evenreally see it.

I see it.
Yeah, I see it.

All this right here was exposed.

Yeah, I can see it .
It's a strip, a little strip,wow.

So anyway, this is real stuff.

So what can we tell people?
Lesson learned, you got to makesure you have your all your
stuff in your in your first aidkit.
First aid kit.
You know you can't have enoughbackup stuff on your boat.
If I would have just had onecable I could have easily have

(01:11:31):
fixed that.
I ended up having to rigsomething.
I ended up getting my steeringback.
When I got the calmer water Itook the four-inch grinder and
cut the old cable off.
I had to take that section out.
It was all wadded up from beingoff the steering.
But now my cable's this muchtoo short, so I ended up using a

(01:11:53):
turnbuckle underneath thesteering to extend that cable
and I constantly threw out atrip and I did that like every
hour.
I went down to make sure it wasstill tight, cause I had 700
miles still to sail to handsteer.
And so I finally got that fixedand I started sailing.

(01:12:14):
I'd wake up as soon as the suncame up and I would steer
towards my destination.
But you know you can't steer24-7.
You got to sleep, sleep, youknow.
so then at nighttime I'd lashthe helm down and I could do
about, instead of doing 90 likeI was doing when I had the helm

(01:12:35):
tied off by the quadrant, Icould now do about 70 degrees
off of the direction I needed togo.
So I would make about 10 milesthroughout a whole night in the
direction that I needed to go.
But I was, the boat was atpeace, you know, it wasn't being
thrashed around and if anybodyever tells me to heave to, don't

(01:12:59):
you know about heave to and I'mgoing to punch him right in the
mouth.
Oh, I've served cocktails andand canary boards and heaving to
, and I'm like like I'll just,I'll just slap them right across
the face because, tell me and Ihad one guy tell me, oh, I've

(01:13:24):
been in 10 to 12 and he how manytimes have you done that?
Oh, I've done that all the time.
Well, you're an idiot who wantsto be in 10 to 12.

All the time.
Well, you're an idiot who wantsto be 10 to 12, and he's on
purpose.

Yeah, we're talking about that the keyboard
warriors right right yeah sorryfor you sailors, that you know.

I'm not saying you can't heat toe, and
I'm not saying you don't, I'mjust saying I'll just slap you
anyway.
So I I could sail forthroughout the night, and every
night I got in a routine.
I was so fatigued and wore outand I just needed to relax.
I'd make myself a rum drink,and that's when I realized that

(01:14:00):
sailors drink rum.
Because once I got everythinglashed down and I was going off
in the wrong direction, I couldmake me a drink and I could fall
asleep.
And I could sleep, you know,and get my rest.
And then, when the sun cameback up, I grabbed the helm and
I sailed 700 miles, making about80 miles a day, and then make

(01:14:23):
another 80 miles, 60 to 80,whatever it was.
I think I did it in 10 days.

I did the last 700 miles and that was the first
one that was recently yeah, thatwas um july last year okay, so
where did you end up after theseven?
I?

ended up in um, in Nuka Hiva, in the
Marquesas.
And another thing that I'm justgoing to reach out and slap
anybody if they send me theCrosby Stills, nash and Young
song about.
You know I brought Beam Reachto Papari.
You know Southern Cross song.

(01:15:06):
I used to love that song.
Now I say, yeah, they wrotethat song before they got to the
South Pacific, because theSouth Pacific is a beast.
That's why there's so manyboats for sale in Tahiti.
These people go sail around theworld and buy their boat in
California and they cross theSouth Pacific and as soon as

(01:15:28):
they get to land they jump shipand leave it behind.

So tell me, why is it such a beast?

Well, there's a I don't know what they
call them, I think there's aname for them.
So for at least 14 daysstraight, at least minimum 14
days straight this is evenbefore the catastrophe happened
You've got 20, the trade windsOn a beam reach they sing about

(01:15:57):
you know, you've got 25 to 30knots of wind, beam reach, 10 to
12-foot seas.
For two weeks I had to putsheets up my cockpit because
wind will wear you out.
I mean, just the constantblowing on you will tire you out
and and it was that for twoweeks.

(01:16:19):
Once I got my sheets up, Icould relax and I could tell my
my energy started filling up andI was in better shape because
the wind was killing me.
But it's not.
You have to be reefed.
You can't.
You know, your sails might beperfect for 25 knots wind, but

(01:16:40):
six times an hour it's going tojump up to 35 knots.
Oh my God, just out of nowhere.
I mean you know what it's likewhen a storm comes and you see
the storm coming and you preparefor it, but you don't see a
storm coming.
Wow, these winds just come outof nowhere and you're just being
slammed with 10 knots of wind.
So I was reefed, you know, for14 days for higher winds, and it

(01:17:05):
was sure enough six times anhour and they only last for
about four or five minutes sixtimes an hour and I don't even
know people even talk about that, but it was I haven't heard
it.
It was brutal and I I tried tobecause I thought somebody said
something about and they calledit something, but I haven't yet

(01:17:26):
to figure out what the name ofthat is.
But I mean, until thecatastrophe happened it was
still a amazing experience.
I mean, I being a seasonedsailor, it was the feather in my
cap.
You know that.
I'm glad I solo crossed thesouth pacific because you know
there is no rewards for sailors,there's no.

(01:17:48):
That of boys, there's no.
You know you do good and werate you here.
You know it's just, you're justanother.

Well, you get followers.

Yeah, get followers because you almost
die.
I don't know if that's.

Well, speaking of, let's give you a little plug
here.
So, um, your pampero, say it,pampero, pampero.
Uh, there's a way to supportmark on his uh, sailing
adventures if you go there.
I think it's.
What is it like?
A gofundme, or well it's my, myis it like a GoFundMe or
something.

Well, it's my router, Tom.
He was the one that came upwith that website and we were
selling T-shirts and doing allthat to raise money.
And, to tell you the truth, Idon't really push it that much
anymore because I have friendsthat help me with that.
I've got a guy and a woman thathave a garage full of T-shirts
that have to go to the mailboxand ship these stuff and you

(01:18:52):
know, and I'm so thankful thatthey do this for me, but that's
a lot on their plate and I justI've got.

You don't do like a Spotify or something.
What's that you do like aSpotify?
They do it for you.

I know that's one of my next moves and
I'm not trying to tell peopledon't send me money, but I don't
really feel I'm in the rightplace for that right now.
I need to get my website set upso it does go to a company that
is in business for shippingsingle items, and that's the

(01:19:28):
next thing on my plate once Iget to the Philippines to get
that set up.

Right, okay, yeah, well, I'm okay with plugging
you.
You don't have to plug you,I'll plug you.
So there it is.

If you want to go to your website and
order a book through you, thatwould be very beneficial.

Yeah, go into the description of YouTube, or I
don't think it's an Instagram,but it's in Facebook and you can
order his book off the grid.
So what's the story with yourFacebook being Cody Jaxx?

Well, in my prior life, before I got
back into sailing, I had a barrestaurant.

Okay.

My son.
His name is Cody Jack Reinhart,and so I named the restaurant
after him.
It was a seafood oyster bar,looked like something built
straight out of the Keys, and Idid that for about five years.

Okay, that explains it.

My Facebook page used to be just
got another fly.
You're not cleaning up, you'rejust doing a little cleaning
while we're on the podcast I'lljust do some cleaning, and
anybody that knows me knows I'mlying about that.

Okay, so you went to the Marquesas first and I'm
going to pull it up, and wheredid you stay in the Marquesas?
I just interviewed somebodythat was there.

Oh it's to, was Hiva Ora and that's
where a lot of people go andcheck into customs.
But the anchorage was so stillviolent.
I mean, I was anchored and theboat was rolling and pitching.
I was so discombobulated I justleft, I couldn't even stay

(01:21:32):
there.
And I found another island,just you know, like 30 miles
away, and I pulled in this supersecluded, pristine little
anchorage.
I think there was one otherboat there which island was that
.
I don't remember the name of it.
It's right next to Hiva Ora andit's got like three bays you

(01:21:53):
can anchor in.
It was beautiful.
And I just laid there for likefive days and had a deep program
, but I seriously had some PTSDand I didn't even realize it at
the time, some ptsd and I didn'teven realize at the time, you
know.
But uh, after the four or fivedays of recovery, I, I decided

(01:22:23):
to sail to uh hivo aura or nukahiva, and um, it was only like
70 miles away and I was scaredto freaking death.
I, I was just like, wow, I knewI could do it in a day.
You know, I still I didn't haveany autopilot and I knew I
could do it in a day.
And um, but I, I found anIsland halfway there so I
wouldn't even have to make thewhole run of 70 miles, I could

(01:22:45):
just go 35 miles and drop anchor.
And I did that.
And then I did the last 35miles.
But I was, I was, I was messedup.
I just didn't even realize it.
But uh, yeah, I couldn't, Icouldn't even do a simple little
little passage like that.
And so when I got to uh, thething that really kind of I

(01:23:08):
remember is when I got to uhthing that really kind of I
remember is when I got to NukaHiva there's a guy there that
does it all for you.
When you come and check in, youjust meet with him and he does
all your paperwork, and then hetakes you to the A handler, kind
of like a handler.

(01:23:33):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, kind oflike a handler, yeah, yeah,
exactly.
So he, he says, well, you cando this yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
I said no, I don't want you to do anything.

I don't care what it costs.
I just I can't even think.
You know, I was like blah anduh, he got me all checked in and
all this, and then I went backout the boat and then I I ran
into him again.
Um, a little while later thatlooks like Nuka Hiva.
I was in that bay, right rightwhere your cursor is right.
There is where I was.
Yeah, yeah and it was it niceand calm yeah, it was still a

(01:24:02):
little rolly, but not bad at all.
So I think I think that's thebay.
Pretty sure it is, yeah yeah,there's all kinds of restaurants
here and everything yeah, whenwhen he, when I was talking to
him on the phone, he says if youlook to the east, you just look
for the so-and-so dog, and hewas getting all frustrated with

(01:24:25):
me and I'm like you don't evenknow where I am.
How do you know?
If I look to the east, I'mgonna see you and it took me
forever to find him.
I finally found him and and uh,but then after about a week I
ran into him again and I said uh, he goes man.
He says you seem to be doing alot better.
I said was, was I acting alittle weird?

(01:24:46):
He goes dude, I could tell youwere messed up.
He says but let's face it, youjust sailed 4,000 miles.
There was a little more of thatstory.

You got someone on here.
I'm going to bring him out.
Let's see who this is.
So you got someone on here.
I'm going to bring them out,let's see who this is.

That's the Bud man Everybody hold on.

Jeff Bud, you're on line, you're live on the.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
Salty Podcast.
Mark Reinhart, man, I cannot.
This is awesome.
I don't know how you figured itout.
Hell, I don't know how Ifigured it out.
I'm glad I'm here, though.

This is great.
Tell them about your experience.
Jeff flew into Nuka Hiva andsailed a Tahiti with me.

Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:25:42):
He doesn't want to tell that story.
I'm just glad I didn't get.
When you sent me down therewith the, I had to come back up
for the knife because that ropewas wrapped around that prop so
tight.
I was like oh, and we had justleft the, the place where they
were filleting.
The fishermen at the docks werelike cleaning the fish and
throwing the guts in the andthese freaking sharks were.

(01:26:05):
They were devoured, they wereabnormally large, and then we're
like only 200 yards out and hegoes hey, jeff, I need you to go
down there and pull the ropeoff the uh prop and I'm like,
I'm not a free, free diver.
I can hardly hold my breath,you know, for 30 seconds and I'm
down, let me throw this in herefor real quick a second.

You know , whenever a situation like this
happens, you know, I know thatJeff's going to come out of that
water with his chest poked out,feeling like I'm the man, so I
really wanted to give him thisexperience.
I was terrified.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
My darts were bigger than I was and I figured man at
any minute, any minute, they'regonna sneak up behind me and
take my leg off, oh I was likepanicking.
I had to go back.
I said I need a knife.
So I had to go back up and geta breath of air and say mark man
, I can't do it with it bymyself.
I need a knife and I'm.
It gives me the dullest knifein the fucking box.

(01:27:05):
Excuse me, that thing comesundone.
And I'm still have my legs andmy arms and everything and I'm
like it was crazy man.
I was like was it your anchorline?

what was it I remember how that happened.

I don't remember you just did that
happen.
I don't remember, you just knew.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
You just knew there was a problem and you said I
think I got a rope tied around.

We might have picked something up when
we were motoring because I had alittle vibration on the cockpit
, but it was the coolestexperience.

Speaker 5 (01:27:44):
I'm so glad I went.
I'm so sorry I was so sick, butit was an experience.
I never, ever dreamed in mywhole entire life that I would
ever go to Tahiti, ever.
And when you said, hey man, I'mlike hell, yeah, and it was
what a wonderful experience, man.
It was so awesome.

(01:28:05):
I really thank you for invitingme and I probably would never
do it again.
No, I'm just kidding you wouldnever do it again.

I know you would you was sick in the
front v-bird for five days well,where are you right now?
people just start seasick youknow it was.

Speaker 5 (01:28:23):
It was the traveler's diarrhea was one.
If that wasn't bad enough, thenthe pacific ocean is not for
wimps, bro.
Those freaking waves were butmark's, just calm as a cucumber
and I'm like it's horrible.
It was horrible I'm sorry I Iwish I was more help he goes,

(01:28:44):
why are?
You below.
That's the worst place to be,and I'm thinking, well, if you
think about the physics of it,and there's 1500 pounds of
ballast down below and you're uphigh and it's moving like this
and I'm down low where it'shardly moving.
I said leave me alone, I canhardly get to the toilet.

Well, where are?

you, where are you?

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
and then, well, where are you?
Where are you?
I'm right now I'm in Orlando,but that's true, you just never
know where I am.

I could be in Navarre or Pensacola
generally.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
I'm going to Cedar Key to see a music festival on
May 2nd through the 4th.
Yes, you can come say Jeff.

Jeff is a one of the reasons I threw
this adverse situation on.
That changed his life.
I don't know for the better orthe worse, but he helped me with
.
He was one of the originatorsof my shirts and he's the one
that made the Soul Survivorshirt.
He took it on himself.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
The badass of the.

Pacific.

Speaker 5 (01:29:47):
Those are nice shirts .

Yeah, he was so supportive of me that I
wanted to pay him back, andlittle did I know it wasn't
really a payback.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
No, it was no, seriously it was.
I'm grateful for theopportunity.
I never dreamed it was soawesome.
Thank you very much, man.
I never dreamed I would checkthat off my list.

That was cool, it's a pretty cool
podcast, huh I don't know howyou figured all this out.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
This is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
How long have you been on the podcast.

How long have you been on the podcast?

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
Six seconds.
I was out with some friends,I'm sorry.

Well, you'll have to watch the podcast
.

Speaker 5 (01:30:31):
I've never been on a podcast before.

This is your podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
Say that again.

He thinks it's your podcast, Mark.

Oh, this isn't my podcast, this is her
podcast.
She invited me.

Speaker 5 (01:30:44):
Oh, it's brilliant.
Oh, this is a great idea.
Yeah, we're going over.

It's usually an hour, but is a great idea.
Yeah, we're going over.
It's usually an hour, but I'mjust like we're just gonna roll
with it my friend said you'renot on.

Speaker 5 (01:30:56):
I said no, I just got home and she said well, he's
still on, susan, she goes, he'sstill on.
I'm like really okay, I got tofigure this out and I said help
me out, man, I've never donethis before and it it was great
because I could see you werestruggling in the beginning,
before captain tinsley came on,but now it's like, dude, I'm

(01:31:17):
down.

They would do this more often, bro I
used to do a facetime live happyhour back when we were on the
same time schedule.
But now you know being thistime thing, you know, if I have
a happy hour I'm bored at 5o'clock in the afternoon and
then I want to reach out tosomebody.
It's 2 o'clock in the morningback home.

Yeah, so you have to start drinking early in the
morning.
I had a beer today for thispodcast.

That's 11 o'clock.
That's pretty early for me.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
But I admire you, mark, because there's a lot of
people that follow you and wantto keep in touch.
This was a great idea, and thetime change is very problematic.
I can't even I don't.
I don't know how you do it, butI think it's great.
This is wonderful and thank you.

I don't know how you do it, but I think
it's great.

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
This is wonderful, and thank you, captain Tinsley
for facilitating this.
It's a wonderful thing that wecan connect.
He's half a world away and thisis a lot, think it over.

Yeah, I saw him posting some salty like posts.
I was like I got to meet thisguy.

Speaker 5 (01:32:24):
He's a trip.
She contacted me like a coupleweeks ago and yesterday um was
such a horrific day on the water.

I woke up at one o'clock in the morning
and you know the the solomonislands are difficult to find
anchorages.
I mean, you can have a beachand a half a mile reef in front
of it and it drops straight offthe 600 or you you know, 165
feet.
So finding a place to drop youranchor that's not right next to
a reef is difficult.
So I found this place.

(01:32:55):
I drop anchor, everything isgood.
I'm at 50 foot of water andthen a storm picks up and swings
the back end of my boat righttowards the reef and I'm like
this is not a good place to be.
So 1 o'clock in the morning, Ipull anchor.

Oh my.

God, I head over to where I am now.
Well, the rain started.

Tell me where that is.
I'm going to pull up a map.
Where is it that you are?
In Solomon Island?

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
You said the rain was torrential.

Do you have an AIS marine tracker?

I do.
How do I pull that up herethough?

okay, so I just pull up marine tracker
and put in um, um, pampero anduh, I used to have my garmin
that was always on, but but itfreaking broke.

There's so many boats out there that are coming
up.
Name Pampero.
No, no, let me pull this up.
We'll look at it.

If you put in search Pampero, you'll
find me.
I'm across the way from that.
Um, head north right from thatbig island where your purse.
Come back a little bit to the,to the east, to the right with
your cursor.
I'm right in there somewhere,yeah right off this big island?

yep, okay, let me see, is this?
Is that it p-a-m-p-e-r-o?
Is there more?

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
than one, yeah that's in greece must be another one
this is amazing.

This is sailing vessel.
Well, it says right, I don'tknow if that's.
No, that's in italy.
There's a.
There's other pampharos.
Well, that's not cool.
There's only one salty,abandoned, okay.

There we go, yep.

Wow, there we go, you're right there.

That's where I left from.
It hasn't updated.
Oh okay, so let's see wherethat is on here.

That's where I left from.
It hasn't updated.
Oh okay, so let's see wherethat is on here.
That's where I checked in thecustoms.

Yeah, I'm on the southeast end of that
island, so I've got what's thatright there?
Is that a boat?

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
No, somewhere in there.

You're right in there you're right in there.

Speaker 5 (01:35:51):
That looks like a nice little place hell yeah,
actually, I'm up above.

I'm up above that just a little bit
here.
Can you see that?
Wait, let me uh oh, it's just alittle ways north of that.

Oh, right, there okay yeah okay, let me put this
up again we're not worried abouttime today.

Well, right now I've got.
So my itinerary is I've got towork my way all the way to the
Western one of the Westernislands and check out customs
here and get my exit papers andthen I'm gonna take off and,
depending on the wind, I'mhoping to make it all the way to
the Philippines.
It's 2,000 miles withoutstopping for fuel again, but the

(01:36:54):
wind is not real favorable.
It's like until I get to thetop of Papua New Guinea there's
very little wind.

You're going all the way to here 2,000 miles with
no wind.

My range is 1,500 miles since.
I put the new motor and prop on.
I've got about 1,500 miles.

Look at this.
I love to do this.
Here's the Philippines you cameall the way from.

I'm almost halfway around the world.
Oh my.

Speaker 5 (01:37:30):
God.

From here Panama, oh my God.

I think I'm like 7,000 or 8,000 miles
from the Panama Canal.

Just right here.
Okay, so this was his firststop, so he went all the way
from there.
Isn't that incredible?

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
well, he went about a thousand miles out of his way
yeah by accident and survivedand you're not there yet.

You're french ponies, you're not.
You're not all the way to thebig.
So then you went all the way uphere, and then you're going to
go up here, right there.

I would go straight towards the
Philippines, but I still worry alittle bit of my mental state
of being that far offshore.
So I'm going to leave there andI'm going to go.
I'm going to stay about 100miles off of Papua New Guinea,
which is the next biggest island.

You see, there Can you go around this way.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

And then .
But if I went straight fromwhere I am and went a little bit
farther north, there's wind,but I'm not Not too keen on that
right now?

No, is there any way to get through here?

I could go down through there, but
there's even less wind downthere.
I can still hit islands all theway to the top part of that
area there.

This trench here.
That is amazing.
How deep is that?

I'm not sure.
There's a lot of deep water inthe Pacific, up to 15,000 feet
deep.

You're going to go all the way up.
Are you going to stop anywherealong the way?

I don't think so.
The only reason I'm going tostop is if I need more fuel.

Where are you going after that?

The Philippines.
I'm going to be there at leasta year.
I'm going to haul the boat outof the water.
I've got so many repairs to doto it to make it back 100% ship
shape after this long crossing.
Some things I want to do I wantto put a wind vane on the back
of my boat.
This is something.
All world cruisers can have awind vane, and I used to think

(01:39:58):
oh, I already got two back.
I got a backup.
On a backup, I got my cablesteering, I got an autopilot,
and come to find out the reasonautopilot failed was um, it
leaked the hydraulic fluid outof the ram and and my router.
Tom and two other people toldme it was a sealed unit and
couldn't have been.

(01:40:19):
Can't you can't add fluid to it?
Um, which information was wrong.
I'm not blaming tom for that,because I had two other people
that reiterated that and so Ididn't even try to ask.

Did you ask chat GPT?
What's that?
Did you ask chat GPT?

No, I didn't.
I didn't even know that wasaround then.
Even the manuals said and Isearched it myself said you
couldn't add fluid to it.
Well now, and I added fluid toit.
I bought a new ram also, but Iadded fluid to the old one just
to make sure it worked.
And I I had vegetable oil on myboat.

(01:40:59):
I could have just taken the nutoff, dumped vegetable oil in it
, gone on my way and not hadthat whole thing happen to me.

Speaker 5 (01:41:08):
No.

But everybody was saying it can't be
done.
And I didn't even investigateit because you know, I was like
everybody says it can't be done,and but I bought a new Ram and
before I put the new Ram on, I'mlike I'm going to check this
thing out and I took this nutoff the top of it and hooked a
funnel to it and added hydraulicfluid to it and it worked like

(01:41:32):
a champ.
I could have done that, butthen I wouldn't be sitting here
telling you all this great story.

That's right, and you've got plenty of ammunition
for a couple other two or threebooks.

So I actually finished my second book
before I crossed the SouthPacific and my editor told me
that I need to put this story inmy book.
So I had to.

It would make a good movie.
I had to write this whole thingin my book.

It would make a good movie.
I had to write this whole thingin the book.
It's actually in there.

You're going to spend about a year in the
Philippines getting everythingship-shaped again.
If you're like me, you don'tplan too far in advance, but you
must have some idea of whatyour route's going to be.

I don't even.
People always ask me where areyou going next?
I say I don't plan the nextisland until I get to the island
I'm going to, because you neverknow, somebody might say, oh,
you got to go over there, man.
That's the coolest place I'veever been, and whenever you have
an itinerary that you think youhave to stick to, it doesn't
work as well.
So the Philippines is a yearmainly to.

(01:42:50):
I want a little break from theboat.
I've been on the water since2016.
I haven't slept in a bed,except for in case I was
visiting or whatever.
So I'm going to spend a year inthe Philippines working on the
boat, just getting everythingright and um are you gonna get a

(01:43:10):
?
Job.
What's up?

you have to get a job no, no, no job.

Capn Mark J. Reinhard (01:43:22):
Hopefully my second book will kick in.
My first first book did reallywell since 2016.
It's amazing I still get checks.
I'm like it blows me away.
It's not retirement money.
You know checks, but you knowand believe it or not?
I get checks from Facebook too.
Yeah, I was like are youkidding me?

(01:43:44):
The first time I got a check,I'm like, holy crap, facebook
messed up.
There's money in my PayPalaccount.
I hope they don't figure it outwhen they do it wrong.
And then it started increasingevery month, and I'll tell you
exactly how much it was.
It wasn't huge, but it got to$250 a month, which doesn't suck

(01:44:05):
for doing something I enjoydoing anyways.
Then it dropped back down.
Um, I think I have less contentto be putting and I'm not
pushing as hard as I did.
When I first got my first check, it was like 60 something
dollars.
I'm like I'm gonna work at thisand see what I could do, and I
pushed it hard for a while andgot up to about $250.

(01:44:27):
And then it just never got anyhigher.
So I think I kind of lostinterest that it was going to be
my retirement fund.

What was your secret to reaching $250 a month?

You know , I have a friend of mine that
pushes his Facebook book hardand he tries to get friends and
followers.
And he called me up and says,mark, what?
Tell me your secret.
I said I have no idea what I'mdoing.
I have no idea why it startedpaying.
I didn't.
I was shocked when it startedpaying.
I didn't know.
They even paid, you know, and I, and then I started they have

(01:45:02):
this thing that you can theprofessional dashboard that you
can start hitting goals on.
Yeah, and so I started workingon that and um, but I haven't
worked on that in a while andthat's probably why my money
dropped off.
But that's that's became toomuch like a job yeah, yeah, but
yeah, I got a little socialsecurity money and hopefully my

(01:45:25):
second book will kick in, willhelp me with my repairs over the
next year.
And the Philippines is so cheap, you know I could.
I can hire people to help me,you know, with the work.
I want to redesign the wholebottom uh cabin down below.
I want to rip all the benchesout.
I'm just, you know, I'm goingto be one of those guys that
takes us all to his boat andpeople hate me, you know, but

(01:45:47):
I'm, this is my end game boatand I'm going to make one of
those guys that takes a sawzallto his boat and people hate me.
This is my end game boat and I'mgoing to make it the way I want
it.

I want a couple of captain's chairs down there.
Take one set, tee out on oneside and put a couple of
captain's chairs with a slidingtable for my computer.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
Make it more comfortable.

Yeah, I'm putting two lazy boys in L.
I'm putting two lazy boys inLazy boy type.
I'm putting one on the port andstarboard side.
So if I'm heeled over this way,I can sit in this one.
If I'm heeled over the otherway, I can sit in that way.
I'll have me a coffee tablenext to each one with all my
plug-ins for my phones andeverything I you know have a

(01:46:27):
little sliding to.

It kind of moves over, and you know I want to
make it comfortable that's it.

These boats are so uncomfortable.
Down below they got these benchseats and you're you know, I
got to sit all straight up andyeah so that's that's.
My goal is to make thatcomfortable, and I'm going to
make a place to hang clothes.
I don't even have a place.
This shirt was hanging behind ahook on my shower door, you
know, and it's the only place Ihave to hang something.

(01:46:58):
It's just ridiculous.

Well, it's a pretty big boat.
Yeah, you have some storage.
You got no place to hang.

You don't have any hanging but the
thing with the storage on thisboat everything is like in
hidden, dark cubby holes.
You know, you?
You pull the back of the, thecouch out, and there's these
holes that you shove crap in.
You can't ever find what's inthere.
I'm ripping all that out, I'mgonna put the cat wars in and

(01:47:28):
get it all organized, andbecause you know, if you're not
organized on a boat, you know Ilost the freaking blender to my
magic bullet.
I haven't found in two yearsand it's on here somewhere.

I know it's not even worth it.
I'm just going to buy a new one.

I've got all these cans of chickpeas.
I was going to make what's that?
I can't even think of the nameMargaritas.

Chickpeas.

What's that dip?
I've lost it.
Hummus, hummus, yeah.
So I was going to make my ownhummus with the chickpeas and
all and the bullet, but I gotall these chickpeas and no
blender.
I tried mashing them up with afork.
It doesn't work.

You got some other fans down here that I'm going
to bring out, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:22):
I love you, Mark, I love you Ben See you, jeff, love
you too, brother.

What's?
Up guys, you guys have hung inthere.

Huh, who do we have on we?

have Lisa Ford and Natalie.
Lisa Ford, she's always up late.
I see her on my Facebook wheneverybody's asleep.
I'm sure Lisa's got some thingsto say.

And we have Susan also Susan Ives Ward Yep, lisa's
off camera.
She's like hiding.
Come on, lisa, come on.

Lisa, lisa, we got you on camera.
Now, how are you doing?

Y'all tell us why you follow this guy.
What's the big deal?
Good question oh, you got yourmic on Lisa this guy.

What's the big deal?

Good question.
Oh, you got to turn your mic onLisa.
You got to turn your mic on.

Because I've known Mark since I was a
little kid.

Really yeah, tell us a story about Mark when he
was a little kid.

That was too long.
I don't think there are anystories, are there?
No, my brother and mark werebest buds back in elementary
school and they played gray yfootball or something like that
together.
Yeah, we lived.

(01:49:46):
Uh, he lived one street overfrom me.
Yeah, so I've known mark mywhole life, but I I hadn't seen
him for 40 years, until hestarted walking the walk so you
saw him on Facebook, say thisguy, I know this guy, he's
sailing around the world.
At that time I was well, he waswalking the walk at that point,
that's right.

Walking, doing the walk, okay, yeah.

So I lived in the Keys.
I lived in the Keys and Iinvited him to camp in my
backyard if he needed to.
Which I never made it at thattime, right I?

forgot about that.
So are a lot of your followers,women.

I think so and I don't understand.
I think it's because I hate toput a slash towards the guys,
but I've reached someenlightenment in my lifetime and
I think women are more in tunewith their own emotions and

(01:50:56):
thoughts and things of thatnature, and I think that is what
resonates with some women, Ithink.
Wouldn't you say Lisa?
With some women, I think.
Wouldn't you say Lisa, and a lotof us went to school with you.
I mean, you've got a lot ofpeople from where we grew up

(01:51:16):
that follow you, you know?
Yeah, I don't really know why, Idon't know.
What about you, Natalie SusanWard?
She's a good friend of mine inFlorida.
She got me hooked on him.

Oh, okay, she's hiding from the camera.
Yeah, I think she is.

There she is.

No, you look great .

Come on now, give us your Susan's been
so helpful, susan, I used towrite a captain's log all the
time.
I'd write a daily captain's logof what was going on and I'd
send it to Susan before I put itout there, because oh, she's on
the proofread, okay.
Yeah, people got used to me notknowing how to spell and
properly use their, their, their, their, our and yours and all

(01:52:04):
those things, and so she kept mepretty straight for a while
yeah, I tried.

I started following him pardon me, he's
got a lot of support.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Yeah he does what got ?
Me was.
He was a friend of mine fromschool and I just kept seeing
these beautiful images andsunsets of Key West and I lived
in Key West when I was young,very young, and my father was on
the water all the time downthere and it just reminded me of

(01:52:41):
what I grew up in for aboutfive years when we were down
there.

Did you grow up there in the 70s?

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
Actually in the 70s or in the Actually in the 60s I
was.
We lived there from about 60,probably about 64, 65 to 70.
But I was very young, I waslike three years old when we
moved there.
But I do remember going out onthe water and you know all the

(01:53:10):
boats.
My dad was the commander of theNaval Air Station there or the
Naval Air Ordnance Unit orsomething like that in Key West,
so he had to pick up the boats,whatever he wanted to take out
for the day, and we always didthat.
But I just loved his sunsetsand stuff and I I I call myself

(01:53:31):
the first person that bought hisbook off of Amazon, because I
sat up until the crack ofmidnight and push the button,
push the button, push the buttonuntil it put you know.
Let me clear my you know, buyit in my cart.
So I always say I'm the firstpurchaser on Amazon but yeah
yeah, yeah, I say I am.

(01:53:54):
I mean, I don't know anybodythat's made that claim.

I haven't signed that copy yet,
have I?

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
no, I still have it here.
I was hoping I might be able tohook up with you when you come
back in the fall, somewherebetween Jacksonville and Key
West or whatever.
You're coming to Orlando alittle bit, right.

Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Somewhere in that neighborhood with Jeff.
I've got to meet Jeff face toface.

You've got to be my most loyal follower
from back when buying the firstbook until now and still
hanging in there.
Yeah, you've got to get him tosign that.
I know, I know yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
I followed him before I got the book and I got the
book and I yeah, I yeah.
It's been a long time, didn'tyou?

Did you work at Disney at that time?
Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
No, no, I've been retired the whole time since
I've been dealing with you.
I quit work when I was 49 or 50to stay home with my mother,
but Mark's book helped me getthrough a lot of that too.

(01:55:13):
Just reading his book by herbedside, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:55:18):
That's awesome yeah.

Mark, you're really helping people.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
He's awesome he's very inspirational helping
people.
He's awesome he's veryinspirational.

When I wrote that book I had no idea
the impact it was going to haveon people.
I just was telling my story.
It's been so rewarding.
When anybody ever asks me theysay they're going to write a
book, I say, man, you've got todo it.
I said especially if yourmessage resonates with people,
because I get emails all thetime, because my email address

(01:55:51):
is in the book and I get peopleyou know tell me stories of how
much the book meant to them, andit's just it's wonderful.
It's so rewarding and so it'smore.
It's more rewarding.
I mean the finances has helpedme over the years, but it's just
so rewarding hearing people'sstories and how grateful they
are and reaching out to me.
It's awesome.

So how long are you going to be in the Solomons?

Probably not that long.
It really depends on the wind.
If the wind was blowing I'dleave right now, but it's going
to take me at least three orfour or five days to get to the
checkout point.
It's a couple hundred miles andsince the wind's not blowing
I'm not in a big hurry.
I'm waiting on the wind anyway.
So I'm going to just take mytime to get to customs and
checkout and then, after I getchecked out customs, I might

(01:56:40):
hang out for another two orthree, four days.
If the wind doesn't startpicking up by then, I'm just
going to take off and startmotor.

And if the wind doesn't start picking up by then
, I'm just going to take off andstart motor and you think
you're going to go non-stop tothe Philippines?

If the wind doesn't blow, I'm going to
have to stop and get fuel.
There's a pretty good chance,once I pass Papua New Guinea and
I'll still have just a littlebit of fuel that I can make it
the other thousand miles to thePhilippines, because the wind is
steadily blowing up in thatarea.
But I don't want to risk that.
I don't want to be have athousand miles to go and be low

(01:57:17):
on fuel.
So I'm probably going to haveto go a hundred miles or so out
of the way to to top off my tank.

So Well, so is there any good places to see?
I don't know anything aboutPapua New Guinea other than what
I've seen.

Well tell you the truth I have a
phobia of Papua New Guineabecause up until recent years
they were still into cannibalism.

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
I knew they were pretty primitive there.

I knew they were, you know.

Yeah, not that they still do, and not
that they would want to eat anold bull, they probably prefer
young calves but I just I don'tknow.
You know, when you're in ananchorage that you've never been
in that before, and it happensall through the Solomon and Fiji

(01:58:13):
and everywhere else.
You're anchored next to someisland with a tribe that lives
there.
You know a family of you know,first, second, third generation,
and they all live in this tribeand they all have they.
They don't have, uh,electricity.
You know they're not modern andand you know they they paddle
around and they're dug out boats, they may have tree trunks and

(01:58:38):
you know the thoughts go throughyour mind.

You know you hear the drums of banging wow, yeah,
because you're a rich guy tothem oh yeah, you know they.

They come out to the boat constantly
and ask for stuff and they want.
They want to sell you coconutsand I've had some great
experiences with a lot.
I mean, the last island I wasat, the youth just swarmed my
boat.
I had 20 not 25, it's probably10 to 12 kids and and I'm
playing Michael Jackson andthey're dancing in their canoes

(01:59:10):
and they're just, they're havinga blast.
Yeah, I've seen some of thosevideos and then the island.
Before that.
They all came out in my boatand I let them come on board
because the dad was there, andthey came back the next day and
I fed them all.
I cooked two chickens and abunch of rice and beans and they
brought me 12 coconuts.
It's such an awesome experience.

(01:59:33):
The dad he's a fisherman tosupport his family.
I had so much fishing gearbecause when I took off, I
provisioned this boat witheverything you could possibly
imagine.
After two years, if I haven'tused it, I'm trading it off.
I'm like here, man, I'm nottrading't used it, I'm like
trading it off.
I'm like here, man, not tradingit, but I'm like here.
I opened my tackle box.
I said what can you use?
You know?
And he was just, it was amazing, you know something that the

(01:59:59):
whole, the whole mess he took,cost me $20.
You'd think it was lifechanging to him, you know.
So it was just amazing.

Speaker 5 (02:00:07):
Well, this him you know, it was just amazing.

Well, this has probably been my longest podcast
.
What's up.

Can I interject something here?
Yeah, sure, yes, I'd like totoast you, Mark and Captain
Tinsley.
Thank you for doing this.
And here's to you.
Mark and Captain Tinsley, Thankyou for doing this.
Here's to you, Mark.
We have had so much funfollowing along with you
Everybody that's watching thisright now.

(02:00:37):
It's happy hour for us, so wewant to toast you, Thank you.

I appreciate it.

I wish I had something to toast you with
.
You're awesome, Mark.
I was trying to catch youbefore you finished your beer.
Yeah, I wish I had I left one inthe freezer from a day or two
ago and I said you know, what.
I'm not going to make a rumdrink, but I'll bring this beer
up and drink that.

Well, I'm going to take everybody off the screen
now, except for Mark.
Okay, guys, that well, I'mgonna, I'm gonna take everybody
off the screen now, except formark.

So, uh, hey guys, just one more thing
before I, before you go.
I really appreciate each andevery one of you.
I mean I, I read, you know Itry to answer every comment
everybody makes and you know itmakes me not feel alone out here
when you guys comment and youlike and stuff like that.
Thank you very much, Iappreciate it, you know it.

We love you.
He wasn't supposed to give thislink out, so you guys, he gave
you the wrong link, so that'show you ended up in here.

We don't mind.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
We'll do it again.

Please do.
I'm going to take you all offnow.
Bye.
Okay, that was cool.
Yeah, you got to have all yourfans here.
So, yeah, this is two hours and13 minutes.
It was probably what 10 minutesof technical glitches, 10
minutes or so but thank you,this has been awesome and I want

(02:02:08):
to catch up with you again.
I've done multiple interviewswith people as they're going
around the world and Idefinitely want to have you back
on.
Hopefully I won't have anothertechnical issue there.

Yeah, maybe after I've been in the
Philippines for like six months,right.

I want to hear about the trip from there there
over to the philippines and hearabout um.
You know what you end up doingif you get an apartment, or what
are you going to do.

I'm that's a trip, I think I think I
definitely want to get off theboat, you know, because that's
part of the reason I'm puttingon land and and you can.
You can get a air in thePhilippines, right on the
freaking water, for $600 a month.

You know.
So it's insane.
Do you think anybody will comevisit you?

Oh, I know they will.
I know people are alreadyreaching out and want to, you
know.

Oh, what's his name?
I just see Jay Budman.
What's his name?
Yeah, jeff Bud, he's definitely.

He's saying he wants to come out
there yeah.
You know yeah.

I mean, he's the keeper of the party.
So you know.

Speaker 5 (02:03:20):
What the hell I mean, I would love to come visit you,
man.
That would be Philippines,halfway around the world.
Are you kidding me?
Who would say no to that?

if, if you're down I'm down yeah, we've
already talked about that.

Well, it sounds like it's cheap enough to stay
there, so why not?

Speaker 5 (02:03:40):
okay, yeah, just let me know the date so I can book
it.

Yeah well, he's not living life by the calendar
it depends on the winds.

Speaker 5 (02:03:50):
You know what?
That's my question I wanted toask earlier.
It's like if you're looking atburning fuel because the wind is
down.
I just don't understand therush.
What is the rush?
Why can't you just wait for thewinds and go do what you like
to do sail, sail why do you haveto burn fuel?

Well, first off, you can't sail if
there's no wind, which I like todo.
But you know what?
And I hate what I'm about tosay, because somebody said this
to me once and I thought you areso tainted Because he said to
me he says you know, after awhile it becomes one more

(02:04:31):
pristine, deserted island withpalm trees.
After, another.
And you know, I thought, youare, so I can't believe you even
said that.
I said how the people you metand helped.
Oh no, I have enjoyed all theexperiences.

Speaker 5 (02:04:44):
And they enjoyed it.

And they're never going to forget
you about the man from america.
Yeah, but I got you know my, myboat is my life and I I want my
boat to be ship shaped andthere's so much wrong with it
right now.
You know just um, not not,logistics of like the motor and
the props and the sails and therigging and all that.
That's all good and strong, butyou know just the awnings that
are ripped.
This awning's missing from thisside because it got all tore up
in the winds and when it rainsit just pours in the cockpit

(02:05:18):
because the awnings aren't here.
And it's all these things thatjust have turned my lovely
lifestyle that I've designed tobe comfortable into difficulty.
So I really want to get there toget this boat back in the shape
I want it in, understood.
And once I get to thePhilippines, I mean my gosh,

(02:05:40):
once the boat goes back in thewater.
I've got Thailand, vietnam,indonesia, malaysia.
I'm going.
These places I didn't even knowexisted before I started
researching them and now they'rejust a skip away.
It's no 4,000 miles to get tothem, it's, you know, thailand,

(02:06:03):
from the Philippines, I think,is 750 miles.
And you know, once I hitThailand, I think I'll be
exactly halfway around the world.
That's the reason I want to gothere.

How do you get over to?
If you're up in the Philippines, how do you get to the Indian
Ocean?

I think you have to go through the Suez
Canal, but I haven't reallylooked at it that intensely, I'm
not sure.

I'm going to.
You've got to get in therefirst.

Let me show you the only reason I want
to go all the way around theworld is just so I can say I
went all the way around theworld.
I get it.
Put that feather, feather mycap, but I'm not so sure I'm,
I'm not so sure I'm not going tojust spend the next five years
up in in the philippines andthailand and malaysia and

(02:06:59):
indonesia and you know so thisis what like, you've, like
you've got the Philippines, andthen to get to the Indian Ocean,
you've got to come outsomewhere.
Oh yeah, I'm not going that farsouth.
That's.

(02:07:20):
My problem is, I've neverreally I don't really
investigate too much fartherthan I never really investigate
too much farther than I neverreally investigate too much
farther than where I'm goingnext.

You can just pick it up and take it over land.
There's got to be some way toget through here.

On the bottom part of Thailand.
You can cut through betweenThailand and.

Right through here .

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, well, alright.

And I've heard that the Indian Ocean is
one of the most awesome downwindsails there is.

But this right here is a little questionable,
this area.
Yeah, I figure by the time Iget there, that'll be all
straightened out.
I don't think so.

You don't think oh it might be Okay.

I see what you're saying.

You don't think Trump will have
hotels over there on the GazaStrait by then?

Yeah, okay, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, there is a change.
I that might get cleaned up.
I'm with you.

I'm with you, all right, so we're gonna
catch up with you it's kind oflike people said about coven
when I started to leave.
They're like oh man, you know,all these countries are locked
down and blah, blah, blah.
I'm like by the time I getthere, it's all going to be over
with.

Yeah, it was All right, Jeff, I'm going to pull
you off the end, sorry, allright.
So, mark, it's been a pleasure.
This has been fun.
I'm using my phone as a camerabecause my expensive camera quit
and I'll figure that out later,but sorry for the technical
difficulties, but it's been alot of fun.

Is there a way to say goodbye to
everybody and then you and Ichat afterwards?

Yeah, sure, sure, yeah.
So say goodbye to everybody,say goodbye, tell them to please
go to Salty Abandon andsubscribe.

Yeah, definitely subscribe to their
channel, because for no otherreason you'll get to see me
again, that's right.

And if you look above my head you can see at
Salty Abandon and all thoseplaces, but this will also be
the longest audio podcast that Ihave.
I'm also above your head.
You can see that it's also onthe audio side of things.
Anywhere you get your podcastsApple, spotify, amazon, iheart,

(02:09:56):
all those places you can alsolisten to the Salty Podcast.
So please subscribe.
And one more thing Tonight'ssponsor is me.
I'm Tinsley Myrick Remax ofOrange Beach and I sell
Gulffront Condos.

And let's see where's my I bet I
have followers in Orange Beach.

I lost it Anyway.
I'm Tinsley Myrick, Remax ofOrange Beach.
I lost it Anyway.
Tinsley Meyer, Remax of OrangeBeach.
There's the email.
I've been selling condos,Gulffront condos, down here in
Gulf Shores, Orange Beach,Perdido Key, Florida, since 2003
.
So I know what I'm doing.
I'm good at it.
Thanks for the buzz.

All right, thanks for hanging button
.
All right, all right guys,thanks for hanging out.

Yeah, it's two hours and 22 minutes.
It's definitely the longestpodcast to have.
It is a lot of fun.
I'm glad you accidentally gaveout the link and I'm going to
end it now.
And the way I end them all isSalty Abandon out.

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