Salty Podcast #67 ⛵ From Wreck to Wonder! | The Sailing Magic Carpet Story - Salty Podcast: Sailing Stories & Adventures

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Capn Tinsley (00:05):
Today on the Salty Podcast, we're talking with
Maya and Aladino of SailingMagic Carpet.
They took a wrecked Cape George36, rebuilt it by hand and
turned it into a seriousoffshore cruiser.
We'll dig into what made themtake that leap, how they pulled
it off, and what life reallylooks like when you live slow
and sail far, and what lifereally looks like when you live
slow and sail far.
But first, please help mesupport the channel by hitting

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I'm Captain Tinsley of SailingVessel Salty Abandoned and
Island Packet 320, and this isthe Salty Podcast, episode 67.
Welcome, sailing Magic Carpet,let's get into it.
Hello, hello, hello.
Thank you for that lovely introoh yeah, yes, I'm here to make

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you look like stars, the starsthat you are.

Maya of Sailing Magic Car (00:55):
Thank you very much.

Yeah, very happy to be here so you guys have an
interesting background.

Aladino (01:06):
Tell us where you're from.
You first.
Yeah, sure, I was born in Italy, but I actually grew up in
Switzerland, the part that I wassticking to one country, but I
did a lot of traveling with myparents on an RV.
So, yeah, a bit of a vagabondlifestyle growing up.
But then, yeah, I am dual,swiss and Italian.

Okay, so you toured around in an RV like in
Europe.

Aladino (01:29):
A mixed Europe and we also did a lot of west coast of
the USA and Canada went up toAlaska.
We went down to Mexico manytimes yeah, there was a.

This is why you were growing up, the whole time
you were growing up.
It's like both kids, but youwere RV kids.

Aladino (01:45):
Exactly, I was an RV kid, yeah, and mostly that was
the starting years when it waseasy to stay out of school and
homeschool.
Because Switzerland has quitestrict regulations.
Homeschooling is not a thing,but it's easy to skip a year
here and there in the earlyphase, and so that's what my
parents did with me here andthere in the early phase, and so

(02:08):
that's what my parents did withme.
But then, as secondary schoolstarts and high school, that's
uh.

Yeah, you can't get out of that, so I had to
attend, okay to attend thoseyears well and.

Maya of Sailing Magic Carpet (02:14):
I feel like oh sorry, no, go ahead
.
I I feel like RV doesn't reallydescribe what it was.
I mean, it was a home-built vanum yeah it was because you
think of RV, you think of one ofthose like 40 foot long shiny
things.
It wasn't that.

Aladino (02:28):
I actually have a photo .

What was it like?
It was like a, like a van.
That was kind of.

Aladino (02:38):
It was actually a motor home that my dad built, so
there's a bit of crossover therewhere I got inspired and now
like to build, uh, our homes, um, I want to see that's the RV oh
yeah, it's like a, like an oldWinnebago yeah, it's an old
Dodge Sportsman and inside itwas completely yeah yeah, he

(02:59):
ripped off everything except thefoundation and started from
scratch and then was travelingaround, and that's when I was
between being one and seven.
We spend a lot of time on thatmotorhome, yeah.

Wow, Okay.
Well, Maya, what about you?
You're from well, Canada, right?

Maya of Sailing Magic Carp (03:21):
Yeah , I'm from the west coast of
Canada, near-ish Vancouver, buta small town.
I didn't travel as much growingup, but my parents both sailed
around the world before I wasborn, so I grew up hearing a lot
of stories about that.
It was sort of it was notsomething I ever did with them,
but they, you know, it wassomething I was always aware

(03:42):
that people did.
You know, it was just the thingthat my parents did before I
was born.
So, yeah, but I washomeschooled for most of my
growing up, so I still had afairly alternative upbringing
More in one place.

I see, okay, great .
So before we get into the CapeGeorge, you had another boat.

Aladino (04:02):
Which one?

Well, the one right before this one, I guess.

Aladino (04:08):
Which was Magic Carpet.
Yeah, so for some people don'tsee the connection, but my name,
aladino, is actually Aladdin inItalian and in Spanish, so
that's why it makes perfectsense that our boats are the
Magic Carpet.

Gotcha.
Me being Aladdin yeah, and howfar did you sail on that one?
It was a say, the name of it,it was a 32-foot.

Aladino (04:31):
It was actually a 28-foot boat.
It's called a Vinde 32 becausemany Canadian designs refer to
the sail areas in square meters.
But yeah, it's more designed asa coastal craft.
Per designation it's not a bluewater boat, but it's more
designed as a coastal craft perdesignation.
It's not a blue water boat, butit's a full keel.
Yeah, she's pretty stout for a28 footer and we spent quite a

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few seasons in the Mediterranean.
We sailed around Sardinia,which is some of my home sailing
grounds, which I'm veryfamiliar with and I've done many
times we took it around Sicily.
That was a really cooladventure.
It got a little too hot for you,but that was really nice, and
then, because it was so hot, theItalian summers should be

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skipped, but that led us tocross Europe doing the canals.
So we dove into the canals.
That was really interesting andwe popped out in the
Netherlands and then we wentfrom there across the North Sea
to Denmark and then we exploredSweden, norway, a little bit.
So, yeah, that was.
That was briefly what we didwith Magic Carpet One during six

(05:40):
or seven years.

So how long you guys been together?
Six or seven years, six orseven, so how long you guys been
together um eight years, wow,okay.
So that whole experience withthat boat you did together, yeah
, and then this one as well,okay, great, okay.
So the moral of that story isyou have a lot of sailing
experience coastal, I would sayyes.
That counts, it counts.

Like we haven't crossed an ocean or
anything yet.
You know, like I think ourlongest crossing was three
nights, so nothing too crazy,but we're looking forward to
that next chapter for sure.

Aladino (06:17):
Oh yeah, absolutely yeah, no, and exactly not to
take away from it.
We have not done a crossing.
I'm totally aware of that interms of blue water, but I also
feel like there's so much tocoastal cruising, where it's
like anchoring every night.
There's so much to learn thereand to really gather experience.
So, yeah, those are the thingsthat we are starting to get very

(06:38):
comfortable with, just thedaily gunk holing.

Yeah, you're actually busier when you're
coastal sailing.
There's a lot going on, Likewhen you're crossing a gulf or
something like that.
You kind of set everything upand just stop for repairs, which
are inevitable.
Yes, and it sounds like you twoare perfect to be able to

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handle just about anything.
Now, what condition was it inwhen you got it?
I'll see if I can pull up.
It was bad.

Aladino (07:16):
Oh, it's really funny when you put it that way.
I chose to tackle two projectswhich were basically destined
for the junkyard.
They were almost two totalwrite-offs.

Maya of Sailing Magic Carpe (07:27):
The first one, literally, was a
total write-off.

Aladino (07:29):
The first one was a total write-off because Magic
Carpet One fell from a crane 20feet onto concrete and, yeah,
she was written off by insuranceand she was laying in the
corner.
And I started an apprenticeshipin that boatyard and I inquired
and I decided to fix her up.
Yeah, not many times that youchoose to do such a project
twice.

(07:49):
So this one here, which I thinkyour question was about, the
Cape George.
The Cape George could have goneinto the water, but since a lot
of the boat is wooden, all ofthat was compromised and so we
could have lived on it.
But we really didn't want toimmerse ourselves in a moldy

(08:10):
environment and so we decided totake things apart and start
fresh, just to have a good homelater, instead of making it work
for a little bit but living ina moldy boat.

Yeah, that wouldn't be a good thing.
Yeah, I'm a real estate agent.
Mold is your enemy, yeah.

Yeah .

Okay, so this is what part of the process?
This was about midway rightEven a bit further along yeah.

Yeah , because there we've already
redone the decks, which was areally big part of it, which
means we've also redone thebeams and the blocking, which
was a huge part of the refit.
So it looks like the decks arealready fiberglassed in that
photo.

Okay, it does.

Yeah , so from there it was
fiberglassing the cabin toppainting.
That's what it looked like whenwe first got it.
That's what it looked like whenwe first got it.
So it looked good from theoutside, it presented really
well, but there was a lot of rothiding underneath everything
and as soon as you start toprobe into it, that became
pretty apparent yeah there is apicture in here of okay, so

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that's, you're making progress.

After okay, there does this show.

Aladino (09:24):
Okay, this shows the before right yeah, that is very
much before yeah shot.
Yeah, that's even when I wasdisassembling the cockpit,
because there was a lot of rodin the beams there and it was
kind of one of those momentswhen I'm like, well, if we got
this far into it, uh, let's notskip this thing, which I would
like to modify a little bit.

Yeah, is this like mud or something down there, or
is that?

Aladino (09:48):
That's just like a floorboard.

I think it was unpainted
fiberglass.
A lot of the interiorfiberglass wasn't painted and
then behind it was rotten balsawhich gave it this really like
modeled gross look to it.
Quite frankly, this is a totalproject.

This is like amazing that you took this on.
Thank you, I admire you guys.
Okay, so this is after you'vedone some work, right?
Yeah, yeah.

Aladino (10:16):
Here it looks like, cause we cut open the decks, and
that was to access the deckbeams which were compromised and
needed replacing.
So the only way to get them outwas from above and not from the
inside, because they sit on thebeam shelf, so you can't get
them out this way, you have toget them up from above.
So here, though, we've put downa fresh layer of plywood again.

(10:39):
After all, those beams werefixed up, which I guess we can
take you in from right herebehind us.
Those are the new beams here.
Let me make that bigger hold on.
Those really distinct.

Oh my gosh, that's beautiful.

Aladino (10:57):
Thank you, that's an original one.

It has a bit of a darker color,
this one the orangey other way,honey, yeah, yeah anyway, yeah,
the orangey one, there is anoriginal one, and these are the
newer ones.

Okay.

Aladino (11:11):
But, yeah, that was some of the structural phase.
Thinking about it, though, nowthat you said it earlier on the
other photo, if that was halfway, maybe that was correct,
because we also completely redidall the systems on the boat and
that is not something to takelightly.
Yeah, that took quite a whileback.

Okay, so let's just look at a couple more here.
There you guys are and thereyou are again.
Okay, all right, and I justwant to show these real quick,
these.
That's cute, that looks like aprofessional shot right there.
All right, so now do you do youwant to tell I'm going to if I
show that video?

(11:50):
Let me pull it up again of theintroduction you did of the tour
of the boat.

Oh sure.

Do you want?

us to narrate it, or something.

Well, if you just tell what comes to mind, I'm
going to try to get it up hereon the screen.
All right, I'm my own producerhere, so be patient.
Okay, here we go.
So this is a great video thatpeople can check out on
Instagram, and it really showshow beautiful it is inside.
Thank, you.

Aladino (12:23):
Yeah, I really like the butterfly hatch.
It lets in a lot of light,which I didn't expect, but that
is one really cool feature of it.

So that was your creation.

Aladino (12:32):
No, no, that's original .
They come with a butterflyhatch.

I know I was like jealous.
I was thinking I wonder if Icould do that to mine, but it
might mess with the structure.
This I was thinking I wonder ifI could do that to mine, but it
might mess with the, thestructure.
There you are.

It sort of has to be designed in
there from the start, I think.
But to me actually, it was oneof the selling points when we
bought this boat.
I just I loved the butterflyhatch and I knew it would let a
lot of light in and um.
Now that everything is sort offreshly painted and freshly
varnished, it really gives itthe canvas for that fresh, for
that light to actually shine,whereas before, when the wood

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all of the interior wood wasoiled and quite um matte and
just a bit mottled looking whenwe got it and so the effect of
the butterfly hatch wasn't quiteas powerful as it now is.
So it's very satisfying to seeit.
You know all the elements cometogether, sure.

Yeah, I think that's.
Some people like to go withother reasons to a catamaran
because you have so much morelight and everything coming in,
so that just was a nice.
I'm a monohull gal, so thatwould be nice to have something
like that.
It really brings in the lightand shows you how beautiful it
is inside.

Aladino (13:47):
Oh yeah, sorry, no, go ahead, but yeah, for a boat from
79, the idea then was reallysmall windows because they can
smash in, because the ocean is aserious place.
So the one place where there isa bit of compromise is that big
butterfly hatch, and I was justsurprised oh yeah, actually

(14:08):
does.
Yeah, as you can see right therein the shot, it just you see
the sky, you see the boom, yousee the sails, which is elements
that they're incorporating nowin boats, uh, where you can see
the mast and you can see yourhead sails sometimes, so things
like that.
It's it really.
Yeah, happened to look goodfrom outside and it brings.

It makes sense I mean I've always.
I don't even put my bimini upbecause I want to look at the
sails yeah, I like sun, I'll die.
I'll probably die from sunexposure, and that that's okay.
I'm going with it all right.
So let's see what else we gothere.
What part of the refit tooklonger than expected, and was it

(14:47):
worth it?
Of course, you're going to sayit All of it, all of it.

Aladino (14:53):
All of it took longer yeah.
To me, it was absolutely worthit, yeah.

Yeah , I mean, ultimately, we have a
really beautiful boat now and aboat that we can really rely on
and really trust, and I'm really, really proud of that.
I think, if you're going totake on a refit of this size,
it's also really important to behonest with yourself about like
, ok, how do I want to spend,you know, five years of my life?

(15:20):
Are these the skills and theknowledge that I would like to
build and expand on in my lifeand take with me into future
endeavors?
Or are my you know skills andinterests pulling me in other
directions?
And that doesn't mean I can'tbe a sailor, but you know, 99%

(15:41):
of sailors on the ocean haven'trebuilt their boat for five
years, so it's not exactly whatwe recommend.
Did you know it was going totake that long?
No, we thought it was going tobe two.

That's still a long time to commit to, you know
, but I'm so, I'm so glad youguys stuck with it.
It must be so gratifying.

Well , we're really fortunate to have
been able to be to stick withit.
You know, I think if we weren'tlucky enough to have an
audience, as we do, cheering uson and sort of having that
social push behind it, Ipersonally for myself don't know
if I would have made it through.
I think that was a hugemotivating factor.

I'm sure, cause I've done things like well, I'm
going to do this.
Well, now that I said it, I gotto do it.
We're going to have to finishthis.
We can't walk away now.
So you've done a lot ofupgrades.
What were your top prioritiesfor getting ready to cruise
full-time?
And I assume that's what you'regoing to do?
Yeah, I.

It's hard to answer because we
literally rebuilt every singlesystem on this boat, like the
rigging is new, the engine isnew, all the electrical, all of
the plumbing.
So like it's hard to evennarrow it down to what did we
prioritize, cause we literallyhad bare bones.
We had to rebuild all of it.

Aladino (16:56):
We tackled it from the ground up.
First we did the structuralrepairs to the boat so that it
would have structural integrityagain, and then we started
rebuilding the interior and wecustomized it a little bit to
fit our needs and ourpreferences and make room for
the systems that we will want tohave on the boat in terms of
where does the fridge go, how dowe deal with holding tank, do

(17:19):
we want one where?
And just all of those things.
We customized that.

What did you decide on the holding tank?

Aladino (17:27):
Oh, holding tank.
We were giving the airhead atry.
It's a composting or adesiccating toilet.
Yeah, okay, just trying it allout so that one day we can be
wise about both things and knowall of the approaches.

Well, I decided to do the pure sand system.
Okay, yeah, and well, that wasa game changer.
But if I wasn't doing that, Iwas going to do the compost,
because I just didn't want tohave a holding tank and carrying
all that around, you know.

Aladino (18:00):
There's an answer, but yeah.

So you, aladino, you had a background in this
somehow and and I and my you hadyou're kind of the filming
person, right, yeah, so you guysmake a good team, so so you
have the experience with theboat and you could just kind of
follow, like you can say I wantthis and here, what do need to
do?
How does that work with yourteam there?
Um, I hope that made sense.

Yeah , no, totally.

Aladino (18:30):
Oh, that's one of our skillset, yeah.

I think, I think, yeah, part of
the reason why Aladino and Iwork together well is because we
have a really differentskillset, but that skillset
compliments each other prettywell.
Well, um, you are anextraordinarily talented boat
builder, as everyone who watchesthe channel knows, and it's
amazing what he can do with.
He's just like such a naturalcraftsman.
It's really really cool towatch, and I've got more of the

(18:55):
artistic and the entrepreneurialside and I can keep things
ticking along in that regard.
I think with the refit, rolesdefinitely got crossed a little
bit, which added to thechallenge, because I don't think
either of us really enjoyworking in the other's role.
So it's nice now that therefit's over to sort of be back

(19:16):
to our happy places and you cando boat maintenance and?
I can do the filming, andthat's a nice balance.

Well, it comes natural yeah.

Aladino (19:25):
There's always interesting moments where
sometimes it feels like oh myGod, I got a lot of my shoulders
because we do have our fieldall to our own, where sometimes
it feels like this is a lot.
But also, on the other side, Ican see how it creates friction
when you're working within thesame field because it like works
.
I can see how it createsfriction when you're working
within the same field because itlike works.
Maybe there is conflict ofinterest in the sense of like.

(19:46):
No, I want to bring the storythis way, no, I want to tell it
from this perspective, and thenyou, you could end up arguing
about that.
But we, we have our fields andwe carry that on our shoulders

(20:06):
that on our shoulders?

definitely I.
I can definitely say I I'm asailor, I I love making videos,
I know all that stuff, but I amnot a mechanic so I have to get
the credit card out.
I try to fix things myself.
But to have you, aladino, tohave that specialty, it's just
awesome.
And you're probably thinkingI'm glad I don't have to edit
those videos.

Aladino (20:20):
Oh, big time no Maya is a lot of work.
Yeah, no, she's.
Her narrations and storytellingand journalism aspect is
absolutely mind blowing what sheputs together.
Yeah, the artistic brain is onfire.

That's a great.

Aladino (20:39):
It's the brain.
That is great.
That's a great partnership.
It's the picky mentalizingbrain.

I would like to be able to say to my boyfriend my
husband died nine months ago soI'm solo in it and I was a solo
sailor before.
But to be able to say tosomebody I want this and I want
this upside down like this, canyou make that happen?
And Aladino's like sure itdoesn't quite go like that.

Let me, yeah, it's going to be
funny, you know.
First I say no about 10 timesand then eventually.

He'll say that's not possible.

Aladino (21:19):
Maybe it appears as a surprise one day.
Okay.

Well, okay, well, that's a you can, you can, she
thinks of it.
You could actually make ithappen.
A lot of cases, right, and youtoo, you think of stuff.
So what's one system or featureon magic carpet you're
especially proud of?
Maybe it's just all of it.
What do you think?

Aladino (21:40):
Oh yeah.

There's so many Like something that you said how
do we do this and oh we figuredit out.

Yeah , the one thing that has made
the biggest difference tocruising life that we did not
have on magic carpet one is hotwater.
Yeah, we never had.
We never had hot water beforeand it is such a game changer no
, it's really nice such awonderful creature.

Aladino (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, oh.
But back to the other point ofum me building things that maya
wants, um the reason I hit onsomething, didn't I oh yeah it
leaps into this as well, becauseI was like curious what you
were gonna say.
I thought you were gonna saysomething about maybe some
twinkly lights or a lamp.

(22:23):
And the conflict often is that Iwas like building structural
parts and I was breaking my headabout things like that and
Maya's priority would have beenthe lighting of the boat which
is important, but yeah, but lookat all of our.

you know, now we're going viral on
Instagram because the boat lookspretty.

It's important.
Yeah Well, it's good that youtwo are both.
I mean, it's good thing thatyou're not just doing the
superficial stuff and ignoringthe structure so it has to be a
bit of give and take.

Oh , absolutely, both are important
, because if you just didstructure and no aesthetic, then
it also is like a lot harder toshow for your efforts.

Aladino (22:59):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a little thing.
I think the camera cabinet cameout pretty well.

Camera cabinet perfect.
Like you have little notches orsomething where things fit in.
Of course we're dedicated tothis.

Aladino (23:13):
We have dedicated one cabinet to just cameras and ND
filters and batteries andmicrophones.

I bet you have the most organized boat.

Aladino (23:22):
There, yeah, it is fairly organized.

It's fairly organized.
Things can always be better,but it's pretty good.

Aladino (23:29):
Totally.

Wow , I need an.

Aladino, that's what I need, so okay, so your
philosophy when it comes tocomfort versus performance,
you're going for both, right?

Aladino (23:44):
Trying to very much indeed.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And , and and.

Aladino (23:50):
I mean, I don't know, some people would maybe not
agree with us it is.
It is a performance within acertain bubble, because it's not
a race boat.
She's a full keel I mean manyracers would laugh at calling
this a race boat, but for 79,and compared to many other
cruising boats, she is sporty,definitely yeah.

Yeah, I've got an island packet, so I know about
sailing a bathtub sometimes but,I'm not going for races, so
yeah, it's a, I'm just going forsafe, comfortable, you know.
Um, okay, so I like to askpeople about their favorite
anchorages.

Aladino (24:35):
Oh, the one that we picked right now just happened
to be a beautiful spot.
We were fishing this afternoonand, yeah, just before hopping
on the call with you, we justhappened to see a little bite
and we went in there and it'sbeautiful.

So you took the boat out.
Pardon me, you took the boat.
Yeah, we're on the boat.
Yeah, we're on the boat.
Yeah, you're on the.
I mean, you took the boat outto this place today.

Yeah , exactly.
Yeah, we were fishing from theboat earlier and then we had
this call, so we had to findsomewhere to anchor.

Okay, I gotcha.
All right so tell me where itis, I'm going to pull it up.

We ?
We are in the BroughtonArchipelago, which is off the
northern coast of VancouverIsland, and we are near an
island called Guilford Island.

Aladino (25:29):
We're actually in Cremner Channel or Passage.

Yeah, is it Cremner, yeah, cremner Passage.

Aladino (25:34):
Yeah.

Guilford Island, oh Cremner, mount Waddington.

Aladino (25:37):
Yeah, oh, that's an area.

It's that Island.

Aladino (25:39):
Oh.

Cranes, mount Waddington.
Yeah, oh that's an area.
It's that region.

Maya of Sailing Magic Ca (25:44):
That's the district.
Can you put the bread out ofthe sun?

They're making bread guys.
It's so cool.
All right, Let me pull this upso I can show everybody.
I've discovered so many goodanchorages by asking people
these questions that I wouldhave never known about.
So, okay, there's GuilfordIsland, so yeah, so um we are.

you see Echo Bay.
It's sort of on the Northwestpart, so we are um sort of just
to the West of Echo Bay, thatchannel under Baker Island.
That's where we are.

Aladino (26:23):
Pretty much where the cursor was.
Yeah, a bit to the right and abit to the top.
There is a little island, atiny one.
Yeah To the left the little bayto the left.
That's it.

Yeah .

Aladino (26:36):
And we're tucked in behind that little island.
We're right tucked in there.
Yeah, You're right in.

There Is yeah that's where we are.
You're right in there.
Is anybody else there?

No , no, and we thought it would be
.
It's not really an anchorage.

Aladino (26:48):
No, we thought it'd be too shallow because not every
place is charted very accuratelyaround here, but there is
enough, so we actually went in.
Yeah, and there is this nicemidden to the north and there is
this nice midden to the northwhich are the shell beaches
which you can see on the map.
That it's like bright turquoise.

That's because the shells are white.

Aladino (27:09):
Is this it right?

here yeah, wow Okay.

Aladino (27:12):
To the south, there is a kelp patch, which is neat, and
there is a bait bowlsurrounding us.

That's all the little bait fishes, which is
very neat.
And what's the watertemperature?

Aladino (27:24):
Oh cold.
The Brattons get a lot ofmoving water and it's about 12
degrees Celsius, which is sorry.

Sorry , Let me look it up.
You know it's not freezing, butit's not warm.

Yeah, 50 Celsius is probably about in that
ballpark, not swimmable yeah,it's 53 so where do you normally
hang out?

you just kind of hang out around
this area, or no, we've beenmoving north the whole summer,
so we started near vancouver and, uh, we've just been heading up
the inside passage andexploring all the little
indentations in the coastlinealong the way.
This coast is just absolutelyabsurdly beautiful like it.
It's.
It's hard to I I struggle toeven put it into words it's,

(28:16):
it's amazing.
So there's these inlets that goreally deep into the mountains
and so you can literally sail inbetween the coastal mountains
and it feels right here, forexample yeah, they're everywhere
.
Like for example, uh, riversinlet.
If you scroll out just a touch,yeah, so rivers inlet is up at
the top there and you can seehow far deep into the mountains

(28:39):
that goes.
That's all salt water, so I betit's beautiful If you go up.
Yeah, and yeah, here you go.
It's stunning you can go up here.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So if you scroll out even alittle more um the inlets that I
was talking about, so this isall.
This is all beautiful, this isall like islands and lovely.
But I scroll out a little moreand you'll see what I'm talking

(29:00):
about and how deep these inletsreally go even a little more.
Go down south a little bit, soat the bottom south even a
little more, that's yeah okay,so now stop there and do you see
rivers inlet marked there?
yeah so that you can go.
That's saltwater and you are inthe mountains.

So you can go up in here.
How wide is this?

So we haven't done rivers inlet
specifically, but we justfinished doing night inlet,
which is actually the longest inBC, I believe, and it's down
south a little bit more.
You can have a look where thatone is.
So if you go south, south,south, more south.

Aladino (29:44):
Yeah, quite a bit.

And I would zoom out just a touch
as well.

Aladino (29:47):
Yeah, and now to the east.

Yeah, oh east.
This way yeah.

Aladino (29:54):
Yeah, so that's the one .

So where that water becomes milky
at the end, that's the end ofNight.

Inlet water becomes milky at the end that's
the end of night inlet, so youcan go so far up there.
And is that, is that ice?
What is that?
Yo?
It is ice, yeah it'll melt.

Aladino (30:08):
That's why the color is different, but it's all the
water that runs into the oceanfrom the rivers and glaciers
yeah, fascinating.

I guess we can't get on the ground here.
Well, let's see what little man, let's put him on a boat.

Aladino (30:23):
Hairspray.

Yeah, it doesn't work, let's see if he'll go here
.

Aladino (30:30):
Oh, here we go yeah he would go in Fort Hardy.
Oh, it's on a boat.
That's funny yeah.

Is it a sailboat?
Oh, look at this.
No, it's a powerboat.
That's weird, isn't it?
It's a google boat, okay, well,fascinating, okay.
So, uh, the name of thatanchorage was say it again well
where we are.

We don't even know where this has
a name, but I would say if toanswer the question about
favorite anchorage wouldhonestly probably be up night,
inlet night inlet okay that wasspectacular.

Aladino (31:04):
Yeah, there's the one place we can't.
We can't tell you about it.

It was too beautiful, sorry no, okay I I
don't blame you, because as soonas we put it out here, people
gonna know.
Okay, tell me about what's not.

Aladino (31:19):
Many boats go up the inlets because they're a little
challenging.
Uh, more challenging.
No, I'm super happy to tell you, yeah, we loved it up there.

Well, does it get windy up in there with the
mountains?
Does it like go through like a?

you know, yeah, it really funnels
through, and part of thechallenge is that there aren't
really good anchorages in termsof good holding.
There aren't really goodanchorages in terms of good
holding because the guy whotaught me how to sail said that
the water is as deep as the landis high.
And so when you've got thesemountains that are just you know
, soaring up into the clouds andthey plummet straight down into

(31:56):
the water and they just descenddown to 2000 feet deep
instantly.
So there's no ledge for youranchor.
There's very few select places,for example, where a river
might come out and then itpushes a bit of sediment out,
where you can somewhat anchorwith a stern tie, but it's never

(32:17):
super secure.
So you do have to have a littlebit of trusting yourself and
your boat to go up the inlets,but the rewards are pretty great
as well.

How do you stay back there?
Do you tie onto the rocksomehow, or?
But you just find that spotthat has a little bit of
sediment.

Like you said, you find the spot
with the sediment, you drop thehook and then you stern tie.
So you're anchored and sterntied.
And that's because often theseledges that you're anchored on
are so steep and narrow that youdon't want your stern to drift
away from them, because you'llprobably just pull your anchor
off and your anchor is justgoing to be floating and nothing

(32:56):
.
So if you stern tie and youpull your stern to shore and
then you're kind of stuck, soyour anchor is like pulling
against that slope and then yourstern is pulling against the
shore and then you can getyourself in there pretty
securely yeah, always keeping itunder tension.

Aladino (33:11):
But it's rolly, it's windy, uh.
So yeah, the beauty comes witha bit of discomfort yeah, and do
you sleep pretty good underthat yeah, we've had some really
good night's sleep, uh, luckily, and uh, some other nights are
a little less good, yeah yeah,but I mean obviously it pays to

(33:33):
have good ground tackle rightlike we sure your ground tackles
so much.

We've got really good stuff now and
that has been huge yeah, well,that's one of my rapid fire
questions.

We we're going to have some rapid fire.

Aladino (33:45):
What is your?

we'll go ahead and ask that one now your anchor.
What kind of anchor do you have?

Aladino (33:51):
We have the Vulcan by Rockna, and that is also because
our boat has a bowsprit and sowe couldn't have a roll bar
anchor, which is, uh, prettytrendy right now.
But the vulcan was designed toperform the same, if not better,
without the need of a roll barand, uh, yeah, so we absolutely
love it and it stows reallynicely, uh, within our existing,

(34:14):
uh setup it's been so good wehaven't dragged, yeah, ever
really, and do you have one inthe rear also?
Not yet.
That's in the works.

For emergencies at least.

Aladino (34:28):
I have a stern anchor for some situations, yeah.

I don't have one, but that's my goal to get one
soon.
Before we do the rapid fire, Iwanted to know what's next.
Where are you going to go?

We're just going to keep going north
for a little bit along the BCcoast here, and then I think
we're probably going to end outthe season by heading down the
west coast of Vancouver Island,which is more open Pacific,
because where we currently areis it's called the inland or the
inside passage.
We're quite protected byVancouver Island, but if you go
down the west side, yeah, it'sPacific Ocean and it's supposed

(35:07):
to be just absolutely stunningand beautiful.
So that's that, yeah, wintering.

So are you going to stay on the boat all winter?

right there, we're like not 100% sure
what the winter is bringing,yet it's going to be cold.

Aladino (35:24):
Well, we have a heater now now, which also is a nice
addition.
But, yeah, the boat is our home, um, we can visit family here
and there, but it's not like wehave many other uh places to
fall back on.
Uh, so, and there is beauty inthat, um, in living in our home
regardless of the season, butthere might always be the
occasional um uh otherexcursions here and there yeah

(35:45):
as we have always done, yeah areyou thinking about going to
mexico?
Maybe one day too, with theboat eventually.

Yeah, that's what I mean, and the caribbean,
you're gonna go to the panamacanal, but I think we're more
interested, interested inheading over to French Polynesia
going that direction.
Nice, yeah, okay, very niceOkay, so you, ready.

Aladino (36:08):
Our motto is sailing around the world as slowly as
possible, so that's very muchwhat we're doing right now.
We're doing 10 nautical miles aday and exploring a new little
inlet.

Yeah, I really like that motto.
A lot of people would like tolive that way.
So more power to you.
I'm a part-time, I go.
I didn't go anywhere last year,but normally I go for like two
or three months, and so I'll bedoing that.
October.
Around the first of October,I'll be taking a trip to the

(36:40):
Bahamas, georgetown, from OrangeBeach, alabama, if you know
where that is not yet it's onthe northern Gulf Coast of the
Gulf of Mexico, gulf of America,okay, so here's a little rapid
fire.
Okay, what's your coffee set upon board?

Aladino (37:03):
a year supplied later yeah what was it?

a percolator, okay , a percolator, all right so you
had to make sure you had powerfor that.
Oh, it's okay, it's the kindthat you put on a fire.
Yeah, yeah, it's not theelectric one okay, cool, cool, a
percolator in English.

Yeah , because you always call it a
mocha which is what it is in.
Italian, but I think that'swhat it is in English.

Yeah, yeah, if it perks, it's like an electric one
, but it's like a camping one.

Aladino (37:34):
So you put water in the bottom, then there is a coffee
up here, and when the waterboils it sends it up a tube and
it spits it out in this chamber,and then this fills with coffee
and then you pour it into thecup this definitely makes sense
to save power on board.

You know what I have a keurig?

it sucks power yeah, this is like,
this is very european, likeit's.
It's not even we didn't get itbecause of power saving, but,
like everyone in Europe, this ishow they make coffee at home.

Yeah, we're learning something here on the
Salty Podcast.

Okay .

Autopilot or wind vane.
Depends if you're motoring orsailing, yeah.

Aladino (38:20):
I like both, but I really love wind vanes for well
offshore passages, which wehaven't done many yet.
But we have played with windvanes close quarters.
I just love that.
They don't take power, they'rereliable, they keep going.
It's that extra crew memberwithout it being one that eats

(38:41):
your food and drinks your water.
There is no noise.
I just find them fabulousdevices, but that's in the works
.
We don't have one yet on thisboat, so an autopilot and
electric one I find is also areally handy tool.

It's nice to have both.
They serve different purposes.

Aladino (39:01):
Yeah, that's how I see it.

Have you priced out the wind vanes?
I'm asking just because I don'tknow.
I'm interested in getting onetoo.

Aladino (39:09):
Yeah, there's many that pop up on the used market too.
Those are usually pretty easyto give it a second life.
Yeah, hopefully stainless oraluminum, and those can be had
from anywhere between $500 totwo grand, and I think the newer
units are probably from twogrand to between two and four.
It always depends a bit whatmodel.

(39:30):
There's a few different optionsout there.
Yeah.

What about Watermaker?

We don't have one.

Aladino (39:42):
No, not yet.

Where we're cruising.
Right now we really don't needone, but once we go elsewhere,
maybe we're going to want onemore.
So we did.
Actually, we were given aWatermaker, which was really,
really kind.
But it turns out it's a modelthat's no longer made and it
needs several, quite a few partsto actually get it working, and

(40:09):
it's quite an investmentactually to get those parts.

Aladino (40:11):
So we're figuring out if that's worth it now or what
we're going to do with that,yeah, if it's worth reviving an
old one and trying to make itwork with new pieces that are
compatible, or if it's not worthtrying to make this one work,
but yeah, no, in general I lovewhat the folks over at Cruise RO
do.
We have their fridge compressorand I just love their customer

(40:33):
service.
So, yeah, whenever we have aquestion, we call them up and
they're always available andthey're always very helpful and
they also have a water maker, sothey're a good one tell me the
name of that again, the name ofthat company cruise ro okay the
folks over at cruiser are great,uh, and then I also heard good
things about the shankers.

(40:54):
Um, that's, they use a littleless power.
There's so many options outthere.
It depends.
Do you want to produce a lot ofwater quickly or a trickle of
water, but for a long?
They use a little less power.
There's so many options outthere, it depends.
Do you want to produce a lot ofwater quickly or a trickle of
water, but for a long time?
There's too many options.

I imagine you guys just need a low producer.
You're not going to requirehigh amounts of.

Aladino (41:17):
Before we add a water maker, we will probably add to
have salt water at the faucet,because right now most of our
water use is just like for doingdishes, and if we swap that to
salt water, if we actually justdrink all that we carry, then we
could cross the pacific.
Um yeah, with no worries well,and what?

what does that do to the pipes?

Well , you have to have a dedicated
saltwater pipe, dedicatedsaltwater faucet.
Yeah, okay.

Oh, cool, okay, Okay, sunset sail or sunrise
sail, sunset.

Aladino (41:52):
Oh yeah.
We're not early, no brainer,yeah, okay.

Anchorage or marina.
Anchorage Every day of the dayevery day.

Aladino (42:02):
Yeah, marina means a chore day that's just to do
laundry, get rid of garbage, Imean sometimes it's really nice,
but yeah, we, we don't go intothem that often yeah is it, uh,
where you are, where you go in?

is it pretty expensive for a slip?

also it's yeah, it's pretty
expensive and um 100 bucks itchanges anywhere between uh 50
and 150 yeah, okay, seasonal,okay.

Uh, who's the better cook?

maya probably me at this point yeah,
yeah if you asked a few yearsago.
Maybe it was me, but no, no youmostly cooked when we first got
together.
But I've sort of taken thatover now.
Actually, to be honest, I tookit over during the refit because
it was like an escape fromsanding.
And then I was like, the moreallowed that I make this dinner,
the less I have to sand.

So I became a really good cook because of that
, you suddenly became willing tolearn some new cooking skills.

Aladino (43:03):
Okay.

We are food, we really eat food.

Aladino (43:07):
That is also one thing we really like, or why I like to
travel is experience cultures,experience different foods and
catch the fish that we then getto eat.
Like all of those passions tieinto each other.

Yeah, well, you look like the both of you eat
very healthy.

Oh , thank you.

We try to, yeah, so it's working Okay.
Favorite weather app.

I've been using Windy up here
because it's really affordable,but for more offshore weather we
hear really good things aboutpredict wind, but yeah, up here
it's a mixture of Environment.
Canada puts out marine forecasts, which are really good, so I
check those and then windy, andactually that is something that
we have found like we, when wewere cruising in Italy, we were

(43:57):
using the local Italianforecasting service.
That was a good one.
When we were cruising up north,we were using the local Italian
forecasting service.
That was a good one.
When we were cruising up north,we were using the local Swedish
one.
It's really good to use thelocal forecast.
Some local knowledge goes along way.

Right rather than the app.

Yeah , like Windy is a really good
overview of sort of the biggersystems as they move through the
seas.
But especially if you'recoastal cruising and you've got,
you know all these landformations and islands which can
change the way that wind curvesaround it, then those local
forecasts often have a betteridea of how those bigger ocean
systems passing by are actuallygoing to affect the local region

(44:35):
.
So yeah, it's nice to have amixture of the both.

Aladino (44:38):
That's definitely the way to go.
Always try to get some localintel.

Local knowledge about everything Right.
Local knowledge Favorite chartplotter.

Oh , we just have an iPad, Well
we've got something new that wehaven't installed yet, but we're
looking forward to it.

Aladino (44:57):
Oh yeah, I'm very excited about the Orca.
I don't know if you've heard ofit, but we actually we haven't
unboxed it yet.
It's basically a tablet and achart plotter navigation system
made in Norway.
It's a couple of engineers whosat together and decided to make
something different, and what Ireally love about that is

(45:17):
because I don't like to havesomething mounted on the boat,
but I like that double duty usetablet because then you can take
it inside.
It's not mounted on the boat.
You can use it for all sorts ofdifferent applications, and
they have come out with thistablet which charges faster,
which you can see well in thesunlight, which, uh, yeah, um,

(45:41):
it's purpose built for that andI'm really excited to take it
out, do all of your instrumentsstill.

Come in and read on the the chart
plotter yes, but with that said,we also have very few
instruments like they could do.
But we just I mean, we don'teven have a wind speed indicator
.
We never have, no, and we justyeah, I just stick my nose out.

Aladino (46:01):
Uh, we, we have depth.

My kitty's talking , if you hear that she's.
She's crying, looking at me.
I didn't want you to thinkthere was a crying baby in here
and I was ignoring it, so do you?
Uh, what about like um radar orum the autopilot?

Aladino (46:20):
I'm talking about radar .
I prefer to keep gear to aminimum because the radar, for
me, the only reason really iswhen it gets foggy.
You really feel lost when fogsurrounds you and like squalls
if you're doing a crossing andsqualls, but on the other side,
it's a lot of cost and a lot ofinstallation to have the radar

(46:42):
for those few occasions.
So, before radar, um, I want toget ais, which is something we
should have.
We didn't get yet, so ais isparamount.
Uh, that will be our first um,but yeah, as you can tell, we're
out here doing it, but the boatis never finished, so there's
still I like.

I like your minimalist philosophy because
you know, know, honestly, Idon't hardly ever turn on my
radar.
And then I found out that ifyou get in an accident and you
should have turned it on andit's on the boat and you didn't
turn it on, you can be liable.
So it's better just to not haveit.
That's not my expert opinion,that's just my opinion.
Okay, that's not my expertopinion, that's just my opinion.

(47:24):
Um, okay, starlink or comms off.

Oh no, I mean we have to have
starlink.

We work online I thought you were gonna say no,
no, we don't know.

I mean, it's definitely a love
hate.
You know you're out here, andpart of the beauty of being out
here is being disconnected butalso like we wouldn't be able to
be out here if we weren't ableto connect and work online.

Aladino (47:47):
So it's yeah, if we really design how this works to
our greatest benefit, then wewould be spending the season out
here filming all of it and thengo to a home studio and edit
over the winter.
But that means that we wouldmiss out on half a salary, um,

(48:08):
because, yeah, we, we get someincome when we post the videos,
um, but yeah, that would be anideal setup yeah, maybe monday.

Maya of Sailing Magic Ca (48:16):
that's how I'll do it At the.
Moment it's pretty much a mix.
We're filming and editing,always all the time.

It's a big job.
Maybe someday you can get aneditor.
It's hard to do that because Idon't think I could do that
either.
I don't too.
It'd be nice to hand it over,but that wouldn't work.

Aladino (48:40):
the videos are what they are because, uh, my eyes
right yeah, that's the thing.

I really love doing it too, like I
I love editing.
If if I was to get help withanything, it would be the
communication side of things.
I am perpetually bad at emailsand messages and you know that
that's where I could do withsome help.

But the video editing I really love that okay,
yeah, one of your fans wouldprobably help you with that.
They'd probably love to the onethat you trusted.

No , I don't know.
It's also hard though, Cause,like I know, the people reaching
reaching out or reaching out totalk to us right and ask us
specific questions, so it's ahard thing to um to do, but but
that's a lot to keep on top ofas well, and I'm appreciative
that we have folks reaching outto us.
I'm really grateful for thatand I'm really happy whenever we
can respond, but it'sdefinitely, you know, like an

(49:29):
hour or so every day of justemails, and I'm not always up to
date.

Well, that's awesome.
So, and also, if you just dolives and like, uh, one of the
reasons I wanted to do a podcastwas, for one thing, I came back
home and I was kind of let downand I was like, oh, get back to
work.
And I thought, well, at least Ican do a podcast and talk to
people that are still out thereand and the the idea of going
live is, I'm not editing it,it's just this, is it?

(50:03):
So that part helps.
And.
I do clips so you'll see thoseafterwards.
Name three things in your ditchbag and do you know where it is
?
Fishing line emergency oliveoil.

We have flares in there we have a
little bit of rations.
What else, where is it?

Aladino (50:26):
Yeah, where is it?
I don't even know Our tableseat.

Okay , good.
All right, we're not superoffshore ready at the moment,
like we don't have a life raftyet.
You know, and obviously we needthat before we go offshore.
We're very much coastalcruising at the moment, but
before we head down the Westcoast, of Vancouver Island.

Aladino (50:45):
We should buy a few of those things for sure.
Yeah, we we do have a hard uhrowing and sailing dinghy right
now, which, uh, yeah, and you'regoing to.

You're going to keep that.

Aladino (50:54):
Oh yeah.
Yeah, it's working pretty well.

Yeah, all right.
Uh, let's see how many spareparts is too many for long?

Aladino (51:04):
no, ever exist.

If the boat can take it and if you have the
storage for it, uh yeah,everything you can helps so
that'd be mostly like yourengine parts or your um, filters
and belts, and oil and fuelpumps all kinds of pumps.

Aladino (51:26):
Yeah, I haven't worked on the spares yet, as the boat
is just finished and I'm gettingto know those and so the spares
acquiring that will be the nextchapter, just like with
gathering the offshore side ofthings.
But yeah, every single systemrequires gaskets.

I bet you're going to have a nice organized locker
just for spare parts.

He already does.
Are you for hire?

Aladino (51:57):
They're sprinkled here and there wherever they fit.

That's right, yeah okay um best piece of gear
under 100 does that exist on aboat?
Well, sort of um under 100,under 100, oh, oh it's, it could

(52:20):
be, it could be just, it justcould be something that makes
your life easier, like a specialsetup for the camera where you
just made filming easier.
It could be anything, or tool.

The one like.
Some might call it superfluous,but it's.
It's very necessary in ourlives is.
We brought our cast iron Dutchoven with us this year, and so
I've been making really goodbread.
Like every three days I make amassive loaf of bread, and that
has been so wonderful forquality of life, so that's nice.
That's under 100, my big Dutchoven.

You just don't even look like you eat bread.
Oh, we eat so much bread.

Aladino (53:04):
That's a crucial part healthy homemade bread.

That's what people calories goose says.
Uh, greatest info.
As usual, he's a regular onhere, so okay, um, what's your
favorite sailing sound?
What's your favorite sound onthe boat?
It could be when you're atanchor.

What makes you feel peaceful.
You know something reallylovely that I don't know if you
know, but I've been gettingreally into recording sounds and
this summer I bought a reallylovely stereo recording setup.
So I've been going around withmy microphones recording all the
sounds of sailing, and one thatI was really excited to be able
to capture is the sounds of thebubbles as they start to burst

(53:46):
apart as they pass by thecockpit.
So you know, when you'resailing and the bow disturbs the
water, and so that sound isvery like percussive and high
pitched and harsh in a pleasantway, I guess, just like it's
very defined, but then thatthose waves, as they pass by the
stern of the boat, all of thosebubbles that the bow created,

(54:08):
start to pop and it creates thathiss.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?

Yes.

Yeah .
So I love that sound and I'mreally stoked that I've I think
I've finally been able tocapture it in a satisfactory way
, which is pretty cool.

That is amazing.
I had no idea you were going totell me that you actually
recorded sounds on the boat.
I mean, that question was meantto be for you, okay, so I think
I might know the answer to thisone Short hop or overnight
passage.

I mean, we've mostly done short
hops but that's not to say thatwe're against overnight passages
.

I've enjoyed those too, oh overnight passages are
magical yeah yeah, but we justhappen to do more short hops
yeah yeah, well, it sounds likethat's the way you're gonna,
when you finally do go on a longexcursion.
It sounds like you'll you'rejust gonna be taking it easy.
Yeah, not in a big hurry.

We're definitely, and it's the same
when we're traveling on land.
Neither of us are too concernedabout checking places off.
We want to spend some time, getto know the place, the people,
all of that.

Awesome, okay, do you keep paper charts on board?

For filming mostly we do have some,
but we never use navigation Ido I use them for the videos.
That's the honest.
That's the honest truth.

Aladino (55:28):
There is aesthetic beauty in them.

Yeah, sure, yeah, I took.
I, you know, took all thecourses, got my captain's
license, all that good stuff.
I can do it, but I really likeusing that chart plotter that's
the thing I mean.

Very few people actually use the
charts anymore, um fornavigation.
They're good to have as backup.
I'm glad we have them as backup.
I'm glad we both know how touse them.
But we don't on a day by day,yeah sure quiet anchorage or
lively cruiser hub oh quietanchorage for sure okay, what's

(56:04):
the last thing you fixed onboard?

Aladino (56:07):
the fridge.
The last thing was the fridge.

Yeah we got a bit of you.
Got it working.

Aladino (56:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, oh, I think we just uh, we had
some exciting sailing and sosome connections maybe vibrated
a little more.
So we had a refrigerant leak,but everything down again and
recharge it a little bit andit's back on fire.

I mean cold as ice , were you able to do that
yourself?

Aladino (56:40):
Because I haven't worked on all of my spares yet.
No, sadly.

Well , we had to get someone to bring
refrigerant.
We didn't have sparerefrigerant.

Aladino (56:49):
But the unit is designed brilliantly where it is
pretty easy to do yourself.
If I had been carrying therefrigerant, yeah.

Okay, I was going to say they call it they call it
up there, but they, they callit gas.
You know when they're puttingin.
Yeah, whatever it's called, Ijust call it gas.

Aladino (57:13):
There's so many types Freon.

That's it.

Aladino (57:16):
That's what I was trying to think of so many
different ones, yeah that's it.

That's what I was trying to think of so many
different ones.
Yeah, okay, um, what's next?
Where are you headed?

Aladino (57:26):
we kind of already asked that one.
This is all dedicated to bcbritish columbia coast, which is
incredible.

Yeah, all right well, you've got that big boat,
so I'm looking for that, thatpassage when you think you might
go to Hawaii or something likesailing Phoenix.

Yeah , we definitely are going to do
some longer passages, probablystarting next year.
Okay, cool Is BC.

Okay, so I'm going to put up your information here
.
You're at sailing magic carpeton Instagram and I didn't see
you on Facebook, but you're onYouTube.
Our main thing is YouTube,which is also sailing magic
carpet on instagram, and Ididn't see you on facebook, but
you're on youtube.

Our main thing is youtube, which is
also sailing magic carpet okay,and on instagram too.

I see there's a lot of good clips there so
people can follow.
You got a lot of followers, gota lot.
It looks like you got a lot ofloyal fans and, um, as someone
who just got invited to be inthe partnership program on
YouTube, I'm going to befollowing your lead on how you
guys.
So let me ask you one otherquestion how do you balance?

(58:28):
I know how much time it takes.
You do really great content.
How do you balance the time?
Has it slowed you down or youjust have your roles as such,
where you can did it slow youdown with the refit?

I mean, I think because we have
such clearly defined roles, likeI do a hundred percent of the
video stuff, like all of it, andyou do the majority of the boat
building those lines got alittle blurred during refit,
cause I was also doing a lot ofboat building stuff, um, but now

(59:03):
that we're out here, likeyou're mostly doing boat stuff,
I'm doing the videos.
So did it slow us down?
I mean, not really, it almostmight slow us down.
I think more when we'reactually out sailing, because
you know it takes me two days toedit an episode.

(59:24):
I put one out every week, sothat's two days every single
week that we're basically justsitting in an anchorage so that
I can edit.
Sometimes I can edit whilewe're underway if it's nice and
calm, but like if it's not calmI can't be sitting down below
looking at the computer screen,you know so.
So yeah, I would say it slowsus down more out here, hey.

Aladino (59:44):
Yeah, it slows us down, and it's also what keeps us
going.
So, they are in balance, so theanswer could be yes and no.
Yeah.

While she's editing, you can go be, you can
tinker and be fixing things.

Which is good yeah.

Well, I've kept you for an hour right on the dot
.
This was great.
I appreciate you guys coming on.
What an honor.
I hope we can do it again afteryour.
Whatever the next chapter isthat maybe I can touch base with
you and you're planning yourfirst passage.

Maya of Sailing Magi (01:00:18):
Absolutely .
We look forward to it.
Thank you so much, and I lookforward to hearing from the
Bahamas.

Capn Tinsley (01:00:22):
I hope you will have an amazing trip.
That sounds sounds lovely I'vebeen thinking about.
I have Google Nest cameras onthe boat.
I thought about going liveevery day and kind of doing a
reality show, you know, justshowing.
It might be boring to somepeople, of course, but just me
sailing.
Boring to some people, ofcourse, but just me sailing.

(01:00:45):
Anyway, thanks so much and I'llbe back in touch with you and
I'll be following you Okay,thank you very much.

Maya of Sailing Magic Car (01:00:48):
Thank you very much.

Capn Tinsley (01:00:49):
That's Salty Abandon.

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