August 28, 2025 • 68 mins
Some audio issues with one of my guests, Christian Parker. He was on his boat in the Florida Keys and was using his phone for the Livestream. What does true sailing freedom look like? For Christian (better known as @ShipwreckedSurvivor) and his fiancée Pippa, it's about stripping away the unnecessary, embracing simplicity, and making this ancient art accessible to everyone—not just the wealthy elite.
Their sailing journey defies conventional wisdom at every turn. Christian shares the wild story behind his Instagram handle, recounting his capsizing experience during the Ultimate Florida Challenge race. The couple's candid take on the controversial Bahamas fee increases (jumping from $150 to $800 for cruising permits) offers valuable perspective for anyone planning Caribbean adventures in the coming season.
The centerpiece of their story? A luxury French catamaran purchased for just $2,000 on eBay. Without engines but with "good bones," this four-stateroom vessel represents Christian's philosophy that sailing shouldn't require hundreds of thousands of dollars. His MacGyver-like abilities to simplify systems and make things work demonstrate that ingenuity often matters more than deep pockets in the sailing world.
Perhaps most inspiring is their commitment to teaching others. Through free sailing schools in New York and Florida, they've built communities where aspiring sailors learn on donated boats without financial barriers. Their approach emphasizes starting small, mastering fundamentals on simple craft, and developing the problem-solving mindset essential for life at sea.
"If you ever wanted something and thought about it, then if not now, when?" Pippa challenges listeners. "Just do it. Get out there, start small, start somewhere." After reconnecting 36 years after their teenage romance, this engaged couple embodies their own advice about seizing opportunities and creating the life you want—one creative solution at a time.
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Capn Tinsley (00:05):
Tonight on the Salty Podcast, we're joined by
Christian, better known as atShipwreckedSurvivor on Instagram
, and his fiancee Pippa.
Christian is never shy aboutsharing his views on Instagram,
usually from his sailboat, aboutincreased Bahamas fees for
cruisers, why everyone needs tolearn how to sail and that
sailing equals freedom.
(00:25):
Pippa brings her ownperspective from life aboard and
together they're a duo makingwaves online and at sea.
This is going to be a no holdsback conversation but before we
get underway, if you're enjoyingthis sailing content, please
like, subscribe and share.
It really helps grow thechannel.
I'm your host, captain Tinsleyof Sailing Vessel Salty
Abandoned and Island Packet 320.
(00:45):
And this is the Salty Podcast,episode 72.
Please help me welcomeChristian and Pippa.
Good evening, hey, hi everybody.
That is a great view there,christian.
That is awesome.
So you're in the keys.
(01:08):
Let's go ahead and say thatthat's pretty awesome.
Before we go, before we start,I want to say that we're live on
four platforms Facebook,youtube X and Instagram.
And if anybody wants to comment, live in the chat.
I do try to monitor Instagram,but the Facebook and the YouTube
(01:32):
chat will come right in hereand I can put your comments on
the screen here.
So, with that, welcome.
Oh, I can hear you hear.
Are you playing it?
Are you playing it back?
Pippa (01:47):
I was trying to figure out how to do that.
There we go.
Capn Tinsley (01:51):
Okay, so I can hear an echo.
All right, let's start.
Okay, Christian, let's startwith you.
Your handle at ShipwreckedSurvivor.
What's the story behind that?
Christian Patrick (02:13):
Well, I was sailing in the Ultimate Florida
Challenge.
Capn Tinsley (02:17):
Now your audio is kind of messed up all of a
sudden.
Christian Patrick (02:20):
Is it Okay?
I am out of the wind, so maybeare you hearing the same thing?
Capn Tinsley (02:38):
I am pippa uh there, that's better.
Pippa (02:42):
I don't hold steady.
Capn Tinsley (02:44):
Okay, maybe it's me, let me try this.
Christian Patrick (02:50):
Maybe my mic was too high.
There he's there now?
Capn Tinsley (02:54):
Good, give me one second.
This is what happens when yougo live.
Yeah, okay, can you hear me?
Christian Patrick (03:16):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (03:17):
Sounds like we got a weird thing.
Christian Patrick (03:21):
Okay, okay Okay.
Everything sounds fine to me,but I don't know what you're
looking for.
Capn Tinsley (03:30):
That sounds better .
Christian Patrick (03:31):
Yes, yeah, okay.
So I was doing this race, the1200 mile ultimate Florida
challenge.
It's a race all the way aroundthe peninsula of Florida, from
Tampa down around the Keys, upthe east coast of Florida and
then through some rivers to getback to Tampa through
Gainesville, and I was two weeksinto it.
(03:54):
Halfway around Florida and I Igot sandwiched by two
thunderstorms at once and and Ibasically encountered crazy
winds it must have been like 65knot winds and I wasn't
expecting it.
And the boat I had the jib up,no, no, I had the mainsail fully
(04:20):
reefed, two reefs in, and myboat just started going way too
fast and I hit hold and um,ended up upside down and uh, oh
man yeah so that's my shipwreckstory, but uh, but yeah.
(04:41):
the coast guard came and got mein 45 minutes, and I, you know,
everything was fine.
I lost the boat, though, so oh,wow.
Yeah, yeah.
Capn Tinsley (04:53):
And what kind of boat was that?
Christian Patrick (04:55):
It was a 21-foot beach cat.
Okay, really cool boat.
Capn Tinsley (05:02):
You've built quite a following on Instagram.
I'm sorry, I'm trying not tocough.
What do you think your opinionsresonate with so many sailors?
Why do you think that is well I?
Christian Patrick (05:14):
don't know.
Um, really I really don'tunderstand the algorithms too
much because I've been doingI've been talking about giving
free lessons to people and teachpeople how to sail and the
importance of knowing how tosail for freedom and, uh and
environmentalist reasons.
I've been doing that for threeyears and I only got 400
followers in three years and umstarted talking about about the
(05:40):
Bahamas.
All of a sudden I got like 600followers.
Capn Tinsley (05:49):
I don't know.
They wanted to hear about thedrama instead.
Pippa (05:52):
Well, I put it in all those Facebook crossing groups
and those people are hot.
They're hot about it.
Are they mad about it?
Okay, oh, yeah, well, let'stalk about that.
Capn Tinsley (06:04):
Let's uh, let's talk about the Bahamas and the.
So I'm about to apply for thecruising permit and for my cats
and all that.
All that paperwork I haven'tstarted yet.
It's about, I'm about gonna,I'm gonna start it here in the
next week or so.
What?
What's the deal with it?
I mean, it went up from like$300 to what.
Christian Patrick (06:28):
Well, it used to be $150 for what I wanted to
do, which would have been asix-month cruising permit with a
fixed permit, and now theminimum permit for what I wanted
to do, like that for my sizeboat, is 800 bucks.
(06:48):
So, um, I tried to get into theBahamas with Pippa the day
before the prices went up, butwe got there just one day, one
day too late, and so we had toend up paying the.
We paid $700 instead of the 800.
Capn Tinsley (07:05):
And this was this.
When was this?
Christian Patrick (07:08):
We got in July 1st.
Capn Tinsley (07:10):
Okay, so y'all went in July.
Christian Patrick (07:13):
Yeah.
Pippa (07:15):
We started June and we didn't expect to get take it
that long.
But you know weather happens.
And yeah, but you know weatherhappens and um yeah so we were,
you know, basically a day lateand they were not honor the pre
(07:38):
the check-in, so yeah, nobodywas personally there yeah, after
hours.
Yeah, oh, you got there afterfive or something, right?
And even though we had done allthe paperwork and stuff for her
beforehand, we did not check inthe correct way in person, so
then we got charged, oh wow,we're trying to beat it I see, I
(07:58):
see well we may have been ableto beat it if we would have paid
um online the day before.
Christian Patrick (08:06):
but we didn't know that we could pay online
we because we checked in withthe click to clear online the
right day and then the next daywe went into the office to give
them the money and they said no,you have to.
You have to pay the full, thenew fees.
Capn Tinsley (08:21):
So that went.
If you thought it was going tobe $150 and it went to $800?
.
Christian Patrick (08:27):
Yeah.
Pippa (08:28):
We were scrambling to get there before it happened, but
it just didn't work out that way.
What'd you do?
Just sucked it up and paid it.
Christian Patrick (08:39):
I didn't want anything else to do.
I went in there with money andI tried to, you know, see if
they could.
Uh, let us have the, the, the,the check-in date from from
yesterday that we did online andthey just didn't want to do it
yeah yeah, and and also theysaid that that this check-in was
(09:00):
only good for one visit to thebahamas for the boat, but the
boat could stay here all year inthe Bahamas.
And then we had we had to leavein 30 days, but the boat could
stay.
Capn Tinsley (09:12):
What did you do?
Christian Patrick (09:14):
Well, we, we looked at plane tickets and the
plane tickets also went up, uh,cause this was off season, and
uh, the flights were um, likethe minimum flight was 300 and
and most of the flights were 500, and I'm used to airlines went
(09:34):
out of business yeah, yeah right.
One of the discount airlineswent out of business.
Capn Tinsley (09:47):
Count airlines we're not a business, so no,
it's called um.
It sounds like spirit calledsilver area.
Christian Patrick (09:50):
Oh yeah, I remember them, okay, yeah, so we
were just doing the math and itwould have been six hundred
dollars in plane tickets, plusanother six hundred dollars to
come back to the bahamas, plus afive hundred dollars for a
mooring, you know for for themonth.
And then, um, we decided tojust it's cheaper to just sail
back, wow, and more fun.
(10:11):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (10:14):
Okay, so um, and what size boat was it?
Christian Patrick (10:19):
33.
Capn Tinsley (10:20):
Okay, so I have a 320.
So so I can, I can expect about800, right.
Christian Patrick (10:27):
Yes, if you want a fishing permit.
Capn Tinsley (10:31):
If I want a fishing permit.
Christian Patrick (10:32):
Yeah, yeah.
Pippa (10:33):
There's a non-negotiable anchoring fee, though it doesn't
matter if you've got a reserveand a marina slip.
Non-negotiable.
What was it?
100 or 200?
200.
Like an anchor fee yeah yeah sothe breakdown is is it?
Capn Tinsley (10:52):
it was a total of 800 for fishing and for
anchoring, and yeah yeah, that'sfor 12 months.
Christian Patrick (11:00):
Are you gonna leave the boat there and fly
back, or no?
Capn Tinsley (11:04):
I'm going to have cats with me.
I normally would do somethinglike that, but I'll have the
cats with me.
I'm not going to leave them.
They probably wouldn't likethat.
Anyway, I plan to stay inGeorgetown for about a month.
Okay, great, it's a six-monthcruising permit, right?
Pippa (11:28):
No it's only a year now, yeah, okay, and then the one,
that one that we got, the oneyear is just the one in and out
within 30 days, but again theboat can stay there.
But but if you get, like the, Iguess, the extra special VIP
permit where you can go in andout as much as you want, it's, I
(11:50):
think, $2,500 about.
Capn Tinsley (11:53):
Well, I saw something about $1,500.
I was getting real confused,but have you ever heard of a
$1,500?
Pippa (12:00):
one.
I think that's what it wasoriginally to do the in and out
all the time.
I don't know.
Capn Tinsley (12:06):
Like it's so confusing.
Pippa (12:07):
Even looking at the Bahamian government website, it
doesn't make any sense half ofit.
So yeah, it just oh well,christian.
Capn Tinsley (12:24):
What do you think the reason?
Pippa (12:25):
who is uh issuing your permit where you go, which
official you get to talk to?
Right is is what it boils downto, and I honestly had never
encountered that before becauseI'm sheltered, but apparently
that's just the way they operate.
Capn Tinsley (12:45):
Now tell me where you are, Pippa.
Pippa (12:49):
Oh, I'm in South Carolina right now taking care of some
stuff.
Capn Tinsley (12:53):
And you guys are newly engaged.
Christian Patrick (12:59):
Yeah.
Pippa (12:59):
I don't know.
Oh yeah, I guess About sixmonths now.
Christian Patrick (13:03):
That long.
Pippa (13:06):
I'm thinking about it.
I'm like wait, yeah, february,it's August, it's almost
September.
Capn Tinsley (13:11):
Yeah, but you've actually you've known each other
a long time, right?
Christian Patrick (13:17):
Yeah.
Yeah 36 years.
Pippa (13:21):
He's the second boy I ever kissed wow, that is pretty
cool.
Capn Tinsley (13:28):
Yeah, so you guys went off and had your own lives
and then you came back or yousaid you were checking in with
each other every so often.
Yeah, yeah.
Pippa (13:38):
And look at you now.
Yeah, I never thought.
Yeah, if you told 15-year-oldme that this was ahead of me, I
would have said no, you'reinsane, no, no.
Capn Tinsley (13:50):
Would you have been happy?
You just didn't think it would.
Pippa (13:54):
I don't know.
We were for too long we wanteddifferent things out of life,
and it would not have.
Know, we were for too long wewanted different things out of
life, and it wouldn't.
It would not have worked, wewould have made each other
miserable.
And now we can just run off andadventure.
Sure yeah.
Capn Tinsley (14:07):
All right.
So do you Christian, or both ofyou?
Do you think this is going todeter some sailors from going?
Christian Patrick (14:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's going to deter sailorsmore than power boaters, though,
Like you said, as a powerboater it doesn't really care
about a small fee like thiscompared to their fuel costs.
But yeah, we were in theBahamas for two weeks and we we,
(14:38):
we were in a hurry, so wemotored the whole time.
Uh, we spent $700, $700 in fuel, Um, and then yeah, and then
$700 in fees.
So you know that doubled ourbudget.
So for us it doesn't make senseto come back for a short trip
in the Bahamas again.
(14:59):
Also, also, sailing to theBahamas is an upwind sail, so
it's kind of it's usually goingto be more fuel to get there
than just come back, Whereassailing to Mexico or Belize is a
downwind sail, and I heard youmention that you're thinking
(15:19):
about going to Belize.
Yeah, yeah, belize.
Belize would be a greatalternative to the Bahamas.
So it all depends on the winds,you know, once we actually get
on the water, because if we havewest winds, yeah, it would be
better to sail on on to, uh, thedr and um, if we can get that
(15:42):
far, but um, we'll probably endup in cancun first and then
we'll okay yeah I don't carewhere we go, I don't care as
long as we go.
Pippa (15:54):
If we keep going all right.
Capn Tinsley (15:56):
So so tell us about that boat you're on right
now, christian.
Christian Patrick (15:59):
The two thousand dollar catamaran is it
yeah french catamaran, that is aluxury catamaran with four
state rooms and two bathrooms.
But uh, this particular uh type, uh, this particular model of
(16:21):
catamaran was was built more forperformance.
That has nice aerodynamic shapeon the top, the top deck, so it
handles pretty well and it'sreally well made a lot of, a lot
of.
It's really well made A lot ofracing.
Capn Tinsley (16:40):
Is he are you.
Is you hearing him coming inand out too?
Yeah, it's coming in and out.
I think you probably have to becloser to the mic, maybe.
Christian Patrick (16:49):
Yeah, yeah, how's that, is that better?
Capn Tinsley (16:51):
That's better, yeah.
Christian Patrick (16:53):
Yeah, well, yeah, it's a high performance
cruising boat and it likes to goabout seven knots, five to
seven, and I'm sure it'll go alot faster.
I think I got it up to eight sofar, but I haven't been in very
strong winds yet.
Capn Tinsley (17:10):
And there's no motor.
Christian Patrick (17:12):
Yeah, there's no motor.
Capn Tinsley (17:16):
That's why Pippa's not on the boat right.
Pippa (17:20):
There's so much work ahead of us.
Christian Patrick (17:24):
Yeah, well, I prefer to sail without a motor.
The ultimate force is without amotor, so I love to sail
without a motor.
Pippa (17:38):
You're breaking up again.
Capn Tinsley (17:40):
Yeah.
Christian Patrick (17:41):
Okay, what do you think of the window, or is
that the mic?
Pippa (17:47):
I think it's where you're standing.
So, what do?
Christian Patrick (17:51):
you think I need better reception?
Capn Tinsley (17:54):
Yeah, there you go .
That right there is good.
I'm dying to hear what you'resaying.
Pippa (18:03):
Keep it out from under the doghouse.
It interferes, I think.
Christian Patrick (18:08):
Oh, I can go on the bow.
Capn Tinsley (18:12):
It might put him in the wind, I don't know.
Christian Patrick (18:16):
I don't know.
Pippa (18:18):
Well, while he's doing thatippa, tell it, tell, tell
the folks where he got this boat, where you got this boat um
well, originally he sent me thelisting on ebay and this guy had
been trying to sell it formonths and he wanted an
outrageous amount of money forit.
Capn Tinsley (18:36):
And then it came down to the wire.
What's outrageous.
Pippa (18:41):
I think he wanted 50 grand.
Capn Tinsley (18:42):
Wow.
And it was like no With noengine, so you're missing two
engines.
Basically right, yep Both ofthem.
Pippa (18:56):
Wow, they're just in.
One is just in pieces sittingon top of the bunk and I walked
inside and I'm like, oh okay,what else do we got here?
It's a really great layout.
It's just going to require alot of work.
Christian Patrick (19:15):
So, tinsley, have you ever heard the saying
two oars is one and one oar isnone?
Capn Tinsley (19:23):
Say that again, two oars is.
Christian Patrick (19:25):
Two oars is one and one oar is none.
No, I have not Tell me, it'sfrom the adventure sailboat
races where when you don't havea motor, you always need to have
two oars because you'll loseone and then you'll end up with
one, or you'll if you only haveone, you'll lose it and then
(19:45):
you'll have none.
I see so that my philosophy isit's better to not have a motor
at all, then you're not countingon it, because you're going to
take risks uh, sailing andknowing that your motor can get
you out of a bind.
But if you know you don't havea motor, then you just don't
take those risks you know you'regonna.
(20:06):
It's just the way it's gonnastay no, no, I I want to move,
but this is great training yeahyeah, you know what the bow can
handle and you know what you canhandle and, uh, and it's good
to have have a backup plan forwhen the motor does fail and
(20:28):
you're in a bump, know what youcan do yeah, it's great training
.
Capn Tinsley (20:32):
It's like here go at it, make it work.
Just you know see how far youcan get.
Pippa (20:38):
But I got to my.
My issue is with the, theengines that are just sitting
there dead and it's going totake a lot of a lot of muscle
power to get it out.
You know not not even thinkingabout fixing it.
I'm just like that's going tobe a real pain in the ass to get
off the boat.
Capn Tinsley (20:57):
So you're going to have to probably get towed in
somewhere.
No, I mean you can't like, Imean you could, but you could
sail right into a slip and we'rerunning to get hauled out.
Christian Patrick (21:11):
No, we're going to sail onto our private
beach Bastion and then beach theboat there at high tide, okay,
and then, uh, yeah, we'll dragthe motors out with I'll make a
sled for them and you know thefloors aren't really nice right
now.
Anyways, they need, they needwork anyways.
(21:32):
So we'll just carry it on asled and then slide it.
Pippa (21:36):
Sure, he is MacGyver, he is absolutely MacGyver.
That's so nice, that's so great.
What was it?
Oh, he's like oh, I couldn'tget the mainsail up because this
and this is missing.
And then I'm like well, how areyou going to fix that?
And he took Allen wrenches tofix that and that's what he used
(21:57):
to get the main sail up andrunning.
Capn Tinsley (21:59):
Well, you kind of have to be that way when you're
a sailor, isn't that right?
Exactly, yeah, well, okay, solet's see what other questions
do I have here?
You often say people need tolearn to sail.
I liked it when you said that.
Christian Patrick (22:23):
Why do you believe that's so important?
Well, I think that the uhmiddle class is getting squashed
.
Um, actually, you know, inrelation to the bahamas and I
think the the us, it's happeningmostly in the us and the
bahamas is just kind offollowing along with what the us
is doing.
Uh, the, the, the inflation isgetting crazy and then the jobs
are getting lost to AI andautomation.
(22:44):
And people should first of allfollow their dreams.
If they have a dream to sail,they should do it now, while
they still have some financialpower and freedom to follow
their dreams.
And, who knows, it may be a wayof life that's an alternative
to capitalism a way of life, tolive without having to be a wage
(23:08):
slave.
Capn Tinsley (23:09):
Well, I had a guy on here one time that said he
bought his boat during the COVIDand he considered it kind of
like the zombie apocalypse andso he said he wanted to get out
away from everything.
So he got a boat and that washis escape from the zombie
(23:30):
apocalypse.
Pippa (23:33):
It was a good theory.
Yeah, that tracks, that tracks,that tracks.
Yeah, that tracks, that tracks,that tracks.
I mean, it's sailing communityis.
It's very tight-knit, it's verydifferent and there's, like
I've noticed this weird rivalrybetween the powerboat bros and
(23:55):
the sailors and like they'relike oh, dirty boat, scum.
And I just I don't get it.
I mean, sailing is, is elegantand it's a sport and it's, you
know, it requires a lot of brainpower.
You don't just turn it on andgo woohoo, that's not how that
works.
Capn Tinsley (24:14):
So right, it is two, two um areas of thought.
Most definitely, um, I have afast car but I have a slow boat
and for some reason that's whatI like, you know, because I mean
there's an expression that, ifyou notice the like I live in
gulf shores, orange beach,alabama, so there's a lot of
(24:36):
boating, mostly power boaters,and they are in such a hurry,
like they're just like.
I mean, they're not talking oranything and they're on their
way to a destination, butsailors are.
Their destination is thejourney, exactly.
So it's just a different schoolof thought.
Christian Patrick (24:57):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (24:58):
But we need those power boaters whenever we need
to get towed or something youknow.
Pippa (25:02):
Yeah we just don't need that.
We just don't need the snarkyattitude.
Yeah, and someone could pull meoff the sandbar.
Capn Tinsley (25:09):
You know we need those guys so we all work well
together.
But, uh, yeah, so okay, um, so,yeah, uh, my, I have my boat
set up like if the world ended.
You know, I wanted it to be setup like if I had to exist on
that boat and the world blew upor something.
I would have everything I need,so the solar and the wind
(25:32):
generator and the lithiumbatteries and all that good
stuff.
So I see you've got some solar.
Is it all working?
Oh, we lost them.
Christian Patrick (25:46):
Not working yet.
Can you hear me Sort?
Pippa (25:49):
of.
I'm betting they're not pluggedin yet.
Capn Tinsley (25:53):
Okay, so they're not quite working yet you could
use that, you don't?
Christian Patrick (25:57):
have an engine to charge your batteries.
Pippa (26:08):
What are you doing?
Christian Patrick (26:12):
out there that's, I think.
He left with two car batteries,three, yeah, fully charged, the
last me like six months, wow.
All I can do is charge my phoneup every once in a while.
Capn Tinsley (26:24):
Yeah, I mean, when you don't have a lot on there,
that's working, I guess yeah.
So tell us about the freethree-day sailing lessons.
What made you decide to do that?
Christian Patrick (26:42):
three-day sailing lessons.
What made you decide to do that?
Well, I had a boat in New YorkCity and I couldn't find a place
to keep it, so that was under$3,000, and the nearest place
that was more reasonable waslike two hours drive.
So I decided to just sail theboat around and kind of figure
it out and keep it here andthere.
And I found a beach and thatbeach was really the first beach
(27:08):
I went to.
I tied the boat to a tree there.
And then I ended up keeping theboat there for several months
and and decided, hey, this is areally good spot.
We should, um we should getmore boats and start a free
sailing school, um, because it'ssuch a great spot.
So basically, I found the spotand then the school came as a
(27:30):
byproduct of it did you get anytakers yeah, yeah, we have about
1600 uh members members in theNew York City Freestyle School
meetup and we started anotherone.
Pippa and I started one inFlorida and we have about how
many members?
About 100 or so.
(27:51):
Almost yeah, yeah, we haveabout 100.
And yeah, we do the seminarsevery month.
Yeah, we have about 100.
And yeah, we do the seminarsevery month.
We've done about seven of themnow in Florida and we have 30
consecutive ones, so you do someclassroom work and then you
(28:12):
take people out.
Yeah, yeah, we do classroom work, but it's about making it a
sustainable preschool that canbe replicated all over the world
if there's interest.
Pippa (28:27):
It's more of a skill sharing.
In my opinion, it's becausewe're not assigning them
homework.
It's like learning they need todo on their own or we can show
them resources, but everyonekind of comes together and talks
about their experiences andthen Christian takes them out
(28:49):
sailing on small cats.
Christian Patrick (28:51):
Yeah, yeah, I give them professional lessons,
but then, once they're able tosail on their own, we encourage
them to sail our small boats ontheir own.
And they learn a lot faster ontheir own than with an
instructor.
Capn Tinsley (29:05):
Sure, so you have boats.
You got some boats.
Christian Patrick (29:09):
Oh yeah, we have so many boats now.
We have about six working boatsand a bunch of project boats in
Florida, working boats and abunch of project boats in
Florida and New York.
We had about eight workingboats and about 30 project boats
.
Capn Tinsley (29:26):
So where is there is.
So there's there at a specificlocation.
Christian Patrick (29:30):
Yeah yeah, we have a beach that we have
access to with my friends.
Capn Tinsley (29:34):
Sebastian, I've heard of sebastian inlet, yeah,
yeah, where where is that?
Christian Patrick (29:41):
yeah, it's just south of the inlet, on the
uh mainland side of the bay inmiami I know it's over north of
bureau and south of uh of uh,orlando, okay, south of orlando,
yeah, on the east coast, therebetween, basically between cape
(30:03):
canaveral and west palm beachokay, it's so northern florida
treasure coast okay, treasureokay.
Capn Tinsley (30:10):
So if somebody wanted to, they could just look
you up on um where yeah, we'reon meetup where yeah we're on
Meetup, meetup, yeah, meetupcom.
Christian Patrick (30:25):
The website is meetupcom.
Forward slash FFBL 2025.
That's hard.
Florida Free Boat Library.
Capn Tinsley (30:36):
I was going to try to put that in a banner, but I
don't think I quite caught it.
But let's see, give it to meone more time.
Okay, meetupcom, okay,meetupcom.
Christian Patrick (30:49):
And then forward splash FFBL like boat
library FFBL okay.
And then 2025, 2025.
3025?
Capn Tinsley (31:01):
like library, ff, bl, okay.
And then zero to five, three.
Zero to five, so like the year2025, okay.
So let's see if I have thisright.
How's that?
Oh yeah okay, so I don't knowmuch about it, but he's got a
(31:25):
free seminar, so go there if youwant to learn about it.
Pippa (31:29):
I mean there's, I think, there, people be interested in
that everybody comes out onSaturday We've got to go Friday
(31:51):
in order to meet everybody andsort of.
You know, we just talk aboutour experiences and you know,
Christian kind of goes over somebasics with them and asks you
know, especially the new sailors, you know, why are you here,
what do you, what do you want toget out of this?
And, and then most of the restof the time is just sailors
telling stories, and I love tohear it.
So, and then Saturday everybodygets out and you know they're
(32:15):
working all day, sure, you know,clean up the beach, we camp out
at night there and we usuallydo a movie night on Saturday
nights, which is just sort of athing we do now because it's fun
and sort of community buildingafter a long hard day.
And then Sunday everybody justgets out and sails again until
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they're tired and go home.
Capn Tinsley (32:41):
Somebody just sent me a link on Instagram.
What's that link about?
Somebody oleenderline32.
Before I pull that, link up.
Pippa (32:54):
Tell me what it is.
I have no idea.
Capn Tinsley (32:58):
No well, you can't see it.
It's over on Instagram, solet's see.
All right, so what's thebiggest mistake you see sailors
making right now?
I'm sure you've got an opinion.
Christian Patrick (33:13):
Oh yeah, let's hear it.
I mean, I deal with new sailorsall the time and everybody that
comes to me wants like a30-foot boat and that's their
first boat.
Capn Tinsley (33:24):
A 30-foot.
A 30-foot.
Christian Patrick (33:26):
Yeah, a 30-foot or so Out of it.
I try to tell them you know,start with a little boat.
Learning how to sail first isthe hardest to learn on a big
boat.
But they don't want to do that.
Capn Tinsley (33:40):
Well, we're catching every third word there.
Why don't you tell me, pippa, Ican hear you better.
Pippa (33:51):
We get a lot of new students that come in.
They're not even students,they're at that point.
It's sort of the community thathe's building and they all want
to learn to sail like a big 30foot monohull because they want
to live on it or something.
But he's trying to teach themthe basics because if you can
(34:13):
get a feel for a small boat onthe water, you're going to have
a lot easier time on a big boatbecause you know the principles,
you know the basics, you knowhow to get yourself out of
trouble using just a littleHobie cat or something.
That's how you learn and thenyou can do something else.
(34:33):
But it's people that are tryingto basically fly before they
can even crawl Right, and that'snot making a good sailor,
that's just indulging.
That's just indulging a wish.
Capn Tinsley (34:49):
Yeah, I think a good learning boat is like a
Catalina 22.
That's an excellent boat, yeah.
But when I'm at somewhere, youyou know, like in a marina
somewhere, I'll you know how youget new people walking by,
looking at all the boats andit's like, oh, this is what we
want to do and they, oh great,what kind of you know we're
(35:12):
getting a boat and what are yougoing to get?
Oh, 50, and they've neversailed before.
Yeah, yeah, that boat probablywon't leave the dock you know,
yeah, exactly.
I always tell people go small,go now.
Christian Patrick (35:30):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
A lot of people wait until theyhear what the take-take was
about ready wish we could hearyou.
Pippa (35:45):
I know we can't you gotta how about now?
Capn Tinsley (35:51):
it's just kind of breaking up a little bit yeah,
now better.
So here's a yeah, that's yeah,we can hear you.
So here's a yeah, that's yeah,we can hear you.
Now here's a comment fromInstagram.
Let's see.
He says guy needs a handpromoting his participation next
year after his rebuild ofspirit.
(36:13):
Is that the name of your boat?
I must be talking aboutsomebody else.
Pippa (36:19):
I don't really know what that's referring.
Capn Tinsley (36:23):
Yeah, he wrote a bunch of things out here, so I'm
not sure what he means.
Tell us what you mean, okay, sowhere were we?
Christian Patrick (36:34):
Well, I was thinking.
Another mistake people make isthey want to have all the wow
before they go they want to haveall the, what they want to have
, all the driving, you know,people get so caught up in the
gear that they forget toactually go sailing.
Capn Tinsley (36:55):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's why a little
small boat is better to start oneveryone's like oh yeah, and
without all the, you don't needreally a lot of upgrades like,
look at you right now well, yeah, that's my point.
Christian Patrick (37:14):
Uh, you want to, you want to fail, simply.
And then, when you addcomplicated systems, you know
how to appreciate them.
You know the difference betweenthe complicated system and the
alternative, which thealternative is let's have a mast
that sticks up in the air, putsthe sails on it, have a rudder
(37:34):
that steers, and that'sbasically all you need right.
Capn Tinsley (37:38):
The more stuff you have, the more it'll break yeah
yeah, and it's sure to breakyeah, yeah, exactly I mean, just
look at our cars.
Pippa (37:50):
They're basically only made the last 10 years now,
before everything just starts tobreak down and your hoses and
all that other stuff.
Like these boats, though, asidefrom the moving parts, they're
built.
They're built to last, right.
So the less you have tomaintain and manage, the better
(38:13):
off you're going to be, becausewe all know that a boat is
because we all know that a boatis, you know, projects underway.
Yeah, that never happens.
Capn Tinsley (38:22):
So we know, so tell me when, pippa, you're
going to be ready to get on thatboat with them Soon.
Pippa (38:34):
I guess we're just going to get it ready for next month
and then start working on it andthen, you know, as soon as it's
habitable, at least for thislittle princess here, then take
it on out.
Capn Tinsley (38:51):
He looks okay, though he looks.
Yeah, he loves this stuff.
Pippa (38:55):
The harder it is, the more he loves it.
Capn Tinsley (39:00):
Are you retired Christian?
Christian Patrick (39:02):
Yeah, mostly, mostly.
Capn Tinsley (39:05):
Yeah, yeah, I still work, but luckily my job
allows me to kind of work mostlyfrom wherever, mostly.
But so how long are you goingto be in the Keys there,
christian, with your boat?
Christian Patrick (39:28):
Well, I don't know.
Pippa (39:29):
Something about a headwind.
That's all I got.
Christian Patrick (39:32):
Yeah.
Pippa (39:33):
Man.
Capn Tinsley (39:34):
I hate that we're having these audio issues,
because I really want to hearwhat you have to say.
Christian Patrick (39:44):
Oh, I don't know what my phone.
I guess we should have testedthe mic before.
Capn Tinsley (39:49):
Maybe it's your service there.
Yeah, I think it's the signal?
Yeah, I think so yeah likeyou'll be talking.
Christian Patrick (39:59):
All of a sudden it starts getting real
choppy.
Oh okay, let me.
Let me see if I can change myserver real quick.
Capn Tinsley (40:03):
Okay, in the meantime, peppa, peppa can tell
me the answer to that.
I can hear you, I do hear allthe.
I hear all the bugs behind you.
Pippa (40:19):
Oh no.
Capn Tinsley (40:19):
They're coming in.
I put you up.
I did some, I just I put it on.
I put reduced background noise.
That helped for a minute.
Pippa (40:30):
But anyway, go ahead.
I forgot what we were talkingabout.
Capn Tinsley (40:33):
How long is he going to be in the Keys?
Pippa (40:37):
Oh, I think well, and get it moved over to Sebastian.
So he's been actively doingthat only, I guess about three
days now.
He kind of went down.
He did one leg already byhimself, and then I had to come
(40:59):
up here and take care of somestuff, and then now your mic's
not on.
Capn Tinsley (41:04):
Well, I did that because there's a lot of noise.
Pippa (41:06):
So he's, I'll turn it back on when he's ready to talk
but yeah, so he's, he's beendoing that, um, but he had to
scramble and run back and runthe seminar and I couldn't be
there this time.
First one I the first one I'vemissed and I just had too many
things that I had to take careof and I had to miss it and it
(41:26):
sucks.
Capn Tinsley (41:28):
How long have you all been doing those seminars?
Pippa (41:31):
Since March, and before that since last August, we've
been running around the UnitedStates picking up boats that
have been donated so that wecould use them to start this up.
Boats that have been donated sothat we could use them to start
this up, and I think thefurthest we went, we went to
Detroit to pick up a Hobie.
So the Hobie Bravo is what hereally likes to teach on,
(41:55):
because they're small, they'recompact, they're one piece,
they're pretty muchindestructible.
Okay, yeah, we spent monthsrunning around picking those up
and getting everything in placebecause he didn't want to take
away from the New York schooljust because they've grown so
big and they're self-sufficientnow, and we didn't want to take
(42:17):
anything away from them.
So we went and got more boatsand started another one.
Capn Tinsley (42:23):
That is great, so that one's going good.
Huh Yep Up in New York.
Christian Patrick (42:29):
Yeah, yeah, they're on their own.
I'm no longer a part of that,but they're still active and
they're still teaching, sailingand having weekly get-togethers,
as far as I know.
Capn Tinsley (42:41):
Okay, and now do you?
You said you, you said you,you're professionally, you're
giving professional lessons.
Are you certified to be aninstructor or because it's free,
they, you don't have to havethat right, right, no, I don't
have any certifications, um,just my own experience, um, and
which is great, yeah it.
Christian Patrick (43:03):
I tell everybody that they should learn
from as many instructors aspossible and find the type of
instructor that resonates withthem the most and stick to them,
and also read books and learnfrom videos.
And the best way to learn is tojust get enough.
(43:26):
Get enough knowledge from aninstructor as quickly as
possible so you can just go outthere and sail on your own and
then you learn, then you take aninterest in it because it's
it's relevant to what you'redoing and you just start
searching for knowledge in other, in all different ways, as many
ways as you can.
Capn Tinsley (43:45):
Yeah, even after I took ASA 101, 103, and 104, I
really learned a lot just bygetting out there.
Christian Patrick (43:53):
Yeah.
Pippa (43:55):
There's nothing better teacher than doing and as long
as you have, i't know, trainingwheels.
Basically, then and that's whatthe group is about is
everybody's.
You know, nobody's out there bythemselves.
That's kind of the so thatwe're all there as a community
(44:17):
to watch each other and helpeach other, and that's.
I think that's done a lot forthese people.
For all of us to be able tohave access to these boats and
be part of a community and learnfrom each other is amazing.
Capn Tinsley (44:39):
I was trying to block those bugs out.
It's dinner time.
Okay, sorry, I'm trying tocough.
Pippa (44:52):
Cicadas are out here screaming.
Capn Tinsley (44:54):
That's it.
That's what I was trying tothink of.
What do you think about thesocial media?
Do you think it glamorizessailing?
Pippa (45:08):
for sure it, it can, but I see enough.
I see enough people that areout there showing reality like,
yes, it's not all wine andcheese and sunsets.
Sometimes there's overflowingheads, stuff breaks, there's
close calls, I mean all kinds ofproblems, and I really
appreciate the people that showthat that type of thing, because
(45:32):
it's not all sunset cruises andhappiness.
There's weird tension when youhave, you know, trying to anchor
or trying to dock, and I neverexperienced that before so I
didn't know what to do with it.
Capn Tinsley (45:50):
Yeah, you can watch that when you, if you sit
in the marina and watch couplescoming in and out of the dock,
that's when you really test yourrelationship.
Pippa (46:08):
I've just kind of taken it in stride, Like when we were
going through the locks.
I'd never been through thelocks before.
I didn't know.
How cool is it that you cancall the bridge and be like
hello, I would like you to openthis bridge for me please.
That was a lot of fun.
I had no idea what I was doingand he gave me the tools to do
this and said here you go, do ithow you want, but this is how
(46:31):
you should do it, this is howit's expected.
And then when we got to some ofthose Are you talking about
Christian?
He gave you the tools.
Capn Tinsley (46:39):
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Pippa (46:41):
And when we were going through the locks where they you
raise it up or down, um, it wasa scramble, you know.
The first time he was like yougotta grab this rope.
No, grab it this way.
That was a little stressful itcan get a little tense.
I didn't know, I had no idea.
But as long as you're open to,I mean mean, yeah, that's his
(47:05):
ship, he's the captain, he makesthe rules.
I just have to support him andbelieve that he knows best in
what he's doing and, so far,100% success rate of keeping my
dumb ass alive.
Capn Tinsley (47:19):
So yeah, you know, my husband was really bad about
it at first.
He would we'd be coming in andhe'd start yelling things at me
and I'm, I'm driving the boat,you know, and and I finally had
to just pull up short outside ofwhatever marina we're coming
into and I'd say now it's thetime for questions, comments and
(47:39):
suggestions.
Once we get in there, no, and Igo.
Do you have anything to say?
And he goes no.
Soon as we get in there, nomore.
And so and of course he stilldid it a little bit he got much
better just to trust me, becausehe would go do you see that
pole?
I go, I'm at it.
(48:00):
So it is a learning process forthe person that's not driving
has to learn to trust you.
And you know, when we didn'thit a bunch of boats all the
time, he finally learned totrust me.
But yeah, if you want toentertainment, you can go to a
(48:21):
launch or something and watchpeople how they fuss over, it
turns into some pretty tensemoments.
Pippa (48:34):
There have been a few times where he's been scrambling
and I didn't understand whatthe situation was and I just,
you know he's like I need yourhelp to do this, this.
And okay, I have no idea whatI'm doing, but, yes, here are my
hands and, you know, 10 minuteslater he was like wow, we were
really in trouble there.
And I'm like, no, you handledit fine, everything went.
(48:56):
You know, I clueless,absolutely clueless, but you
know, every situation we'vegotten in, we've gotten out of
so far, and how are your skillsnow?
they're better than they werestill not really.
Still not really where I wouldlike them to be, but there's no
(49:18):
better teacher than doing yeah,I mean you.
Capn Tinsley (49:22):
I at least the basics.
If he was to fall off the boat,would you be able to turn the
boat around and go back, youknow?
Those are some basics that youhave to learn.
Pippa (49:34):
Yeah, but sometimes I do think about that scene in
Battleship where they throw outthe anchors and swing around
like it's Fast and furious, likeyeah, I can't do that, but I
want to.
Capn Tinsley (49:47):
All right, well, okay.
Um.
So what's one opinion,christian?
Hopefully we'll be able to hearyour answer.
What's one opinion aboutsailing that most people won't
agree with?
What's one opinion of yours?
Christian Patrick (50:10):
Yeah, well, gosh, what can we talk about
here?
Capn Tinsley (50:17):
I'm trying to get you to get fired up, like in
your videos.
Christian Patrick (50:24):
Okay, well, sailing is better suited to poor
people than rich people,because you have to be able to
fix things and interested infixing things.
And you have to have a lot offree time.
So those are two things thatrich people don't really have.
Capn Tinsley (50:49):
You think poor people have time?
Well, oh God.
The people working two jobs forthree hours?
Well, yeah, they do better off.
But, you're probably right,they have the skills.
A lot of times they'll have theskills to be able to work on
their own boat Is.
But you're probably right, theyhave the skills.
A lot of times they'll have theskills to be able to work on
their own boat.
Is that what you mean?
(51:09):
Yeah, sure, yeah, the interestI think they have the will more.
Okay.
Pippa (51:15):
All right, but yeah, sailing shouldn't cost hundreds
of thousands of dollars.
This is one of the oldestmethods of transportation and
the fact that it has been, Idon't know, hoarded or gatekept
by the wealthy just doesn't makesense to me.
Capn Tinsley (51:39):
You mean like the anchor laws and all that stuff
in Florida.
Pippa (51:43):
You mean like the anchor laws and all that stuff in
Florida.
Not just that, but the factthat some people again coming
back to the if this is a$100,000 boat and I don't have
matching shirts and all the gear, no, no, you just get on the
boat and go.
Capn Tinsley (51:58):
Yeah, yeah.
Pippa (51:59):
It's about the adventure, it's not the destination.
Capn Tinsley (52:03):
Right.
Pippa (52:03):
Like you said.
Capn Tinsley (52:04):
Well, I think I've noticed that, even with sailors
, as opposed to power boaters,that it just seems like they
blend well together.
You know, whether they're on a$300 boat or a 500 000 boat or a
(52:26):
50 000 boat, um, I think peoplehave been, are willing to help
each other, and I've had peopleyou know I can help you with
that.
You know that kind of thingbecause I'm not a mechanic, I
have a credit card, I can doanything on a boat.
I can operate, I can, sail, Ican.
(52:46):
I'm very techie, you know.
But as far as like fixing theengine, um, I've learned a lot,
but it's not my forte.
So they're very lucky to havethis, this man here that knows
how to MacGyver everything, andmy husband wasn't either.
(53:06):
He's more of a.
We were both kind ofwhite-collar workers, you know
we could do all kinds of stuffwith a computer, but apparently
that's a different part of themind.
I've noticed that all the guysthat fix boats don't know how to
operate their phone very well.
It must be two parts of thebrain.
Or guys that can build a house,they can't use a computer, it
(53:32):
just must be.
Now, christian might be allthose things, I don't know, he's
a little bit of a Luddite, justa little bit.
Are you the one that does thesocial media and everything?
Well, he does social media.
I know that he does.
Pippa (53:48):
Yeah, he does his own, but I also run like a different
channel, which is just kind of.
It became a joke, because everytime I hear somebody, hey,
christian, and then there's thislong, complicated question and
he always, always answers them.
Wow.
(54:08):
So I just started a channelthat was basically him sailing
tips or tying knots or you knowsilly stuff, the stuff that he
doesn't really think about,because he just gets on and uses
it basically as a personaldiary, which is great.
Capn Tinsley (54:27):
He does All right.
Is there a sailing skill youthink is overlooked but
absolutely essential?
Christian Patrick (54:37):
It might be to fix stuff right uh, yeah,
yeah, I think I think knots arereally useful.
Um, I just if you could justput them all into like one
category of just like riggingstuff.
You got to be able to rig stuff, you know you got to be able to
to bypass a system and look atit big picture and make it work.
(55:00):
You know, like, simplify,simplify.
You know, like I, if I hadenough money to have a brand new
boat, everything would workperfectly.
But these, these old boats,like this boat's from 1994 and
it has a lot of complicatedsystems on it and all this and
most of those systems are arenot working.
So when I came on this boat, Ihad to simplify so many things
(55:25):
to make the operation.
Capn Tinsley (55:28):
Are you going to have to replace a lot?
Christian Patrick (55:32):
Yeah, so far the boat works the way I need it
to.
I just need a motor.
I've got a plan for that.
But as far as all the for thatand uh, but as far as, as far as
all the systems that work onthe boat, it all, it all works,
Um, and it's just now.
It's just organizing it andmaking it clean and um, and then
(55:56):
you know, like you said, youknow, if there's a zombie
apocalypse, I have to be readytomorrow or today.
That's my philosophy Be readyas quickly as possible, because
this boat is not just a boat,it's a deep route, it's
cooperative.
Capn Tinsley (56:15):
And it's got to be Pippa ready.
That's her number one goal,right.
Pippa (56:21):
Pippa ready.
He'll get it close enough thatI can manage.
Capn Tinsley (56:26):
That's funny.
Okay, so here's some rapid fireones here.
I think I know the answer tothis one Bahamas or Caribbean.
Christian Patrick (56:35):
Oh, um Caribbean.
Capn Tinsley (56:38):
Monohull or catamaran oh catamaran, cat,
alright, I like both, but Iprefer Mono hole or catamaran oh
catamaran, of course.
Pippa (56:44):
Cat.
All right, I mean I like both,but I prefer.
I find I prefer being on a cat,just for the stability.
Christian Patrick (56:51):
A little more comfortable.
Yeah, what about you?
Capn Tinsley (56:56):
What about what?
What about you?
Well, I'm a traditionalist, soI've got an island pack at 320.
It's a mono hole.
Christian Patrick (57:03):
Yeah, you never tried a multi-hull.
Capn Tinsley (57:06):
I've been on them, but I've never.
You know, for a lot of peoplethey get priced out, unless you
buy a $2,000 boat on eBay.
Christian Patrick (57:14):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (57:15):
Then you got to have some skills to fix it up.
But catamarans are kind of hardto park.
You know, if you're going to bein a marina, there's double
everything.
You've got two motors and twowhatever is in those cabins?
You know heads and multipleheads and all that stuff.
Christian Patrick (57:37):
Yeah, yeah also, monohulls are better.
Capn Tinsley (57:44):
Is that right?
That makes sense.
Christian Patrick (57:47):
Yeah, monohulls can go closer upwind.
Capn Tinsley (57:51):
Yeah, but they're very comfortable, like if you're
hanging out in the Bahamas.
We'll just put those fees aside.
That's a very comfortable placeto live for the next six months
, you know, you know, in a in acatamaran, yeah, but so it could
be an issue of pricing peopleout.
Catamarans are just super,super expensive, you know, even
(58:15):
if they're not brand new.
But if you've got yoursituation where you've got
something that you can fixyourself, that's a different
situation.
You were able to take advantageof that.
That's pretty great.
Pippa (58:28):
I have seen a lot of people lately.
I mean, I don't know if it'sjust because the content is
being pushed towards me toobecause of interaction, but a
lot of people are buying boatsto live on them and they're
fixing them and it's uh, it'sbeen amazing to see that and
(58:49):
realize that there's just thiswhole other I don't know like
culture yeah, it's a wholecommunity, you know yeah, and
that they're almost alwayswelcoming to these new people.
they're like this is so great, Ican't wait to see you out there
.
Do you need any help?
It's just been an incrediblething to stumble upon.
Capn Tinsley (59:13):
Yes, and even power boaters have been very
generous with me.
I've just found the wholeboating community Now.
I don't like them when they youknow, when I'm going down the
ICW on the west coast of Floridaand these big old things come
out of nowhere and they just I'mjust sitting there like I'm
trying not to land in theshallow water that's just to the
(59:36):
right of the channel.
Pippa (59:38):
Some of them are pretty rude, but even power boaters can
be very generous with theirtime and you know that kind of
thing I just don't like the onesthat are, uh, drinking maker's
park and you know, at noon andsaying, oh, we really need to
get back on the boat and, uh,we're gonna all, they're gonna
drive, they're gonna drive afterjust slamming like half a
(01:00:01):
bottle of maker's Bark, I'm like, yeah, I don't want to be on
the water with those people.
Capn Tinsley (01:00:05):
Yeah, there's those out there.
Sure, Okay, favorite anchorageso far.
Christian Patrick (01:00:13):
Wow, man Gosh .
Capn Tinsley (01:00:19):
Sometimes it's hard to choose.
Yeah, I like Newfound Harbor.
I like that.
Are you heading south?
Are you going to be goingtowards that?
Christian Patrick (01:00:28):
No, I'm heading north right now, okay,
but yeah, we'll head down toCancun, probably next.
Capn Tinsley (01:00:37):
Yeah, stop off at Newfound Harbor.
It's by Ramrod Key.
Christian Patrick (01:00:41):
Oh yeah.
Capn Tinsley (01:00:41):
Beautiful anchorage.
Okay, yeah, beautiful, oh okay,harbors by ramrod key, oh yeah
beautiful anchorage.
Christian Patrick (01:00:46):
Okay, yeah, beautiful.
Capn Tinsley (01:00:46):
Oh okay, I'll check it out yeah, there's quite
a few stops right there.
Um, on that on that atlanticside, and on the inside too.
Okay, you're, how much water doyou draw?
Christian Patrick (01:01:00):
three and a half that's amazing water.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:03):
do you draw Three and a half?
That's amazing.
I'm 4'2, 5".
Christian Patrick (01:01:07):
Oh okay.
Pippa (01:01:10):
That's pretty shallow for a monohull right.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:12):
Yeah, it's a full keel.
Christian Patrick (01:01:14):
Oh.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:15):
So, yeah it's a blue water boat, but I can go to
the Bahamas too, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Pippa (01:01:23):
So I did like the.
Where were we?
Was it Umbrella Cay, rightoutside of there.
That was really pretty.
It was just Where's that?
It was quiet in the BahamasOkay.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:36):
Is that the?
Pippa (01:01:36):
right place.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:37):
Yeah, where's it close?
Christian Patrick (01:01:39):
to that was in the Abacos.
Okay, yeah, I think it was bywhat do you say?
It was?
It was by our grandkid, I thinkgrandkid okay yeah, and foxtown
, near foxtown, you know, uh oneof those barrier islands to the
(01:02:03):
north of Marsh Harbor.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:05):
Okay, okay, this guy said quiet.
Dreamboat under 40 feet.
Oh man.
Christian Patrick (01:02:16):
I got it.
I got it for $2,000 on eBay.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:19):
Seriously, that's got to be very satisfying.
Christian Patrick (01:02:23):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:25):
Any problems getting insurance?
Christian Patrick (01:02:28):
No problem at all, I don't need it.
You self-insure when the boat's$2,000,.
You self-insure.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:35):
That's true.
It's going to be worth moresomeday, though, right.
Christian Patrick (01:02:40):
Absolutely.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:41):
It's probably worth more now.
Anyway, one sailing gadget youactually trust my iphone worst
sailing habit.
Christian Patrick (01:02:54):
You see, people do oh, oh, gosh um this
will make you think yeah, umsteer to the compass.
When people steer to thecompass, sometimes you it has
like a lag and you end up likedoing a 360 sometimes
interesting.
Capn Tinsley (01:03:15):
Okay, so to the old-fashioned compass, right the
yeah okay, you can end up doingit like a big wide circle or
something.
Christian Patrick (01:03:24):
Yeah, start chasing the numbers, right, and
you're not looking outside atyour references and you start
turning in a circle.
Capn Tinsley (01:03:34):
Wow Okay, beer, rum or coffee at Anchor.
Christian Patrick (01:03:40):
I'll let Pip answer that one.
I'll let Pippa answer that one.
Pippa (01:03:44):
This man drinks nothing but herbal tea, no caffeine, no
alcohol, nothing.
Capn Tinsley (01:03:51):
I don't do any of that stuff either, but I do
drink caffeine.
That's my one thing.
Pippa (01:04:02):
For me it's if I've been out too long and I want a Dr
Pepper.
I want a dr pepper very, verybadly okay that's, that's my
advice.
Capn Tinsley (01:04:07):
That's it.
Huh, okay, that's, I like thatanswer always, you're always uh,
you're always, uh, payingattention when you just drink dr
pepper.
One word, one word to describesailing life Freedom, perfect.
(01:04:28):
That's a good way to end itright there, because you have a
video that's sailing equalsfreedom.
That's perfect, All right.
Well, that's it.
That's all the questions I have.
How about you guys?
Anything you want to say, Tellpeople out there.
We haven't had a lot ofquestions, but there'll be
people you know more peoplewatching in the replay.
Christian Patrick (01:04:51):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (01:04:52):
So anything you want to say to people, get out
there, go sailing.
Everybody, learn to sail, screwthe Bahamas.
Whatever you want to say, yeah.
Pippa (01:05:07):
Go ahead.
Whatever you want to say, yeah,go ahead.
I'm just going to say that ifyou ever wanted something and
you've thought about it, then ifnot now, when?
Just do it.
Get out there, start, start,small, start somewhere.
Just go, make steps to makeyour dream real.
Don't just sit there and wishand hope.
Capn Tinsley (01:05:28):
Someday.
Yeah, don't do that.
Yeah, and we're proving that wecan even do it.
There's some jobs that allowfor it, even before you retire.
Yep, all right.
Well, that's it, you guys.
So we're going to want anupdate on that boat.
And what do you call those bugs?
(01:05:50):
Again, I always forget.
What are those bugs in yourback?
Cicadas, cicadas.
Yeah, they are on fire tonight,aren't they?
Pippa (01:06:00):
It's like there's the woods of South Carolina.
Capn Tinsley (01:06:03):
Yeah, we have them here too, and I love that
sunset behind you, patrick, thatis awesome, that is beautiful.
Let's see it, let's see.
Can you kind of show us what'saround you there?
Got the kayak?
Is that the kayak there?
Christian Patrick (01:06:20):
Yeah, I got my kayaks here you got two of
them.
Huh, the kayak with the holes.
Capn Tinsley (01:06:23):
Yeah, I got my kayaks here.
You got two of them.
Huh, the kayak with the holes.
Yeah, part of the $2,000.
No, those are yours, okay.
Christian Patrick (01:06:31):
No, yeah, $50 kayaks.
They always have a problem withthem.
You know, got holes in them.
Oh, that's great.
Got my big fortress, that'sgreat Is that with the
trampoline is that you'resitting on the.
Capn Tinsley (01:06:48):
Is that what you call it?
Yeah, I'm on the trampoline.
Yeah, yeah, it's catamaran.
Talk the trampoline alrightguys.
Well, thank you so much.
Y'all look great thank you forhaving us.
Your cameras are looking good,you guys are looking healthy,
you're looking happy.
I appreciate you guys coming onand we'll see you again.
(01:07:08):
I'm going to be down.
You're going north, though, soyou guys aren't going to be in
the Keys like in October,november.
Christian Patrick (01:07:19):
Yeah, maybe you're going to get it fixed
before then yeah, we're going toget it all fixed and then sail
back down to, probably to theKeys and then decide if we're
going to go east or west.
Okay, we might go west and thengo to Cancun first.
Capn Tinsley (01:07:43):
Okay, All right.
Christian Patrick (01:07:44):
well, maybe we'll pass in the keys yeah, we
never have a plan, because um,we just don't we're very uh we
(01:08:18):
just don't, yeah, we just don't.
Capn Tinsley (01:08:19):
Uh, you know, when there are plans, to think if
this plan is so bad, it must beone of ours, all right, and with
that we will say goodnight andthank you so much, guys, and
we'll see you.
We'll see you soon, saltyabandon, thank you.
Tonight on the Salty Podcast, we're joined by
Christian, better known as atShipwreckedSurvivor on Instagram
, and his fiancee Pippa.
Christian is never shy aboutsharing his views on Instagram,
usually from his sailboat, aboutincreased Bahamas fees for
cruisers, why everyone needs tolearn how to sail and that
sailing equals freedom.
(00:25):
Pippa brings her ownperspective from life aboard and
together they're a duo makingwaves online and at sea.
This is going to be a no holdsback conversation but before we
get underway, if you're enjoyingthis sailing content, please
like, subscribe and share.
It really helps grow thechannel.
I'm your host, captain Tinsleyof Sailing Vessel Salty
Abandoned and Island Packet 320.
(00:45):
And this is the Salty Podcast,episode 72.
Please help me welcomeChristian and Pippa.
Good evening, hey, hi everybody.
That is a great view there,christian.
That is awesome.
So you're in the keys.
(01:08):
Let's go ahead and say thatthat's pretty awesome.
Before we go, before we start,I want to say that we're live on
four platforms Facebook,youtube X and Instagram.
And if anybody wants to comment, live in the chat.
I do try to monitor Instagram,but the Facebook and the YouTube
(01:32):
chat will come right in hereand I can put your comments on
the screen here.
So, with that, welcome.
Oh, I can hear you hear.
Are you playing it?
Are you playing it back?
Pippa (01:47):
I was trying to figure out how to do that.
There we go.
Capn Tinsley (01:51):
Okay, so I can hear an echo.
All right, let's start.
Okay, Christian, let's startwith you.
Your handle at ShipwreckedSurvivor.
What's the story behind that?
Christian Patrick (02:13):
Well, I was sailing in the Ultimate Florida
Challenge.
Capn Tinsley (02:17):
Now your audio is kind of messed up all of a
sudden.
Christian Patrick (02:20):
Is it Okay?
I am out of the wind, so maybeare you hearing the same thing?
Capn Tinsley (02:38):
I am pippa uh there, that's better.
Pippa (02:42):
I don't hold steady.
Capn Tinsley (02:44):
Okay, maybe it's me, let me try this.
Christian Patrick (02:50):
Maybe my mic was too high.
There he's there now?
Capn Tinsley (02:54):
Good, give me one second.
This is what happens when yougo live.
Yeah, okay, can you hear me?
Christian Patrick (03:16):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (03:17):
Sounds like we got a weird thing.
Christian Patrick (03:21):
Okay, okay Okay.
Everything sounds fine to me,but I don't know what you're
looking for.
Capn Tinsley (03:30):
That sounds better .
Christian Patrick (03:31):
Yes, yeah, okay.
So I was doing this race, the1200 mile ultimate Florida
challenge.
It's a race all the way aroundthe peninsula of Florida, from
Tampa down around the Keys, upthe east coast of Florida and
then through some rivers to getback to Tampa through
Gainesville, and I was two weeksinto it.
(03:54):
Halfway around Florida and I Igot sandwiched by two
thunderstorms at once and and Ibasically encountered crazy
winds it must have been like 65knot winds and I wasn't
expecting it.
And the boat I had the jib up,no, no, I had the mainsail fully
(04:20):
reefed, two reefs in, and myboat just started going way too
fast and I hit hold and um,ended up upside down and uh, oh
man yeah so that's my shipwreckstory, but uh, but yeah.
(04:41):
the coast guard came and got mein 45 minutes, and I, you know,
everything was fine.
I lost the boat, though, so oh,wow.
Yeah, yeah.
Capn Tinsley (04:53):
And what kind of boat was that?
Christian Patrick (04:55):
It was a 21-foot beach cat.
Okay, really cool boat.
Capn Tinsley (05:02):
You've built quite a following on Instagram.
I'm sorry, I'm trying not tocough.
What do you think your opinionsresonate with so many sailors?
Why do you think that is well I?
Christian Patrick (05:14):
don't know.
Um, really I really don'tunderstand the algorithms too
much because I've been doingI've been talking about giving
free lessons to people and teachpeople how to sail and the
importance of knowing how tosail for freedom and, uh and
environmentalist reasons.
I've been doing that for threeyears and I only got 400
followers in three years and umstarted talking about about the
(05:40):
Bahamas.
All of a sudden I got like 600followers.
Capn Tinsley (05:49):
I don't know.
They wanted to hear about thedrama instead.
Pippa (05:52):
Well, I put it in all those Facebook crossing groups
and those people are hot.
They're hot about it.
Are they mad about it?
Okay, oh, yeah, well, let'stalk about that.
Capn Tinsley (06:04):
Let's uh, let's talk about the Bahamas and the.
So I'm about to apply for thecruising permit and for my cats
and all that.
All that paperwork I haven'tstarted yet.
It's about, I'm about gonna,I'm gonna start it here in the
next week or so.
What?
What's the deal with it?
I mean, it went up from like$300 to what.
Christian Patrick (06:28):
Well, it used to be $150 for what I wanted to
do, which would have been asix-month cruising permit with a
fixed permit, and now theminimum permit for what I wanted
to do, like that for my sizeboat, is 800 bucks.
(06:48):
So, um, I tried to get into theBahamas with Pippa the day
before the prices went up, butwe got there just one day, one
day too late, and so we had toend up paying the.
We paid $700 instead of the 800.
Capn Tinsley (07:05):
And this was this.
When was this?
Christian Patrick (07:08):
We got in July 1st.
Capn Tinsley (07:10):
Okay, so y'all went in July.
Christian Patrick (07:13):
Yeah.
Pippa (07:15):
We started June and we didn't expect to get take it
that long.
But you know weather happens.
And yeah, but you know weatherhappens and um yeah so we were,
you know, basically a day lateand they were not honor the pre
(07:38):
the check-in, so yeah, nobodywas personally there yeah, after
hours.
Yeah, oh, you got there afterfive or something, right?
And even though we had done allthe paperwork and stuff for her
beforehand, we did not check inthe correct way in person, so
then we got charged, oh wow,we're trying to beat it I see, I
(07:58):
see well we may have been ableto beat it if we would have paid
um online the day before.
Christian Patrick (08:06):
but we didn't know that we could pay online
we because we checked in withthe click to clear online the
right day and then the next daywe went into the office to give
them the money and they said no,you have to.
You have to pay the full, thenew fees.
Capn Tinsley (08:21):
So that went.
If you thought it was going tobe $150 and it went to $800?
.
Christian Patrick (08:27):
Yeah.
Pippa (08:28):
We were scrambling to get there before it happened, but
it just didn't work out that way.
What'd you do?
Just sucked it up and paid it.
Christian Patrick (08:39):
I didn't want anything else to do.
I went in there with money andI tried to, you know, see if
they could.
Uh, let us have the, the, the,the check-in date from from
yesterday that we did online andthey just didn't want to do it
yeah yeah, and and also theysaid that that this check-in was
(09:00):
only good for one visit to thebahamas for the boat, but the
boat could stay here all year inthe Bahamas.
And then we had we had to leavein 30 days, but the boat could
stay.
Capn Tinsley (09:12):
What did you do?
Christian Patrick (09:14):
Well, we, we looked at plane tickets and the
plane tickets also went up, uh,cause this was off season, and
uh, the flights were um, likethe minimum flight was 300 and
and most of the flights were 500, and I'm used to airlines went
(09:34):
out of business yeah, yeah right.
One of the discount airlineswent out of business.
Capn Tinsley (09:47):
Count airlines we're not a business, so no,
it's called um.
It sounds like spirit calledsilver area.
Christian Patrick (09:50):
Oh yeah, I remember them, okay, yeah, so we
were just doing the math and itwould have been six hundred
dollars in plane tickets, plusanother six hundred dollars to
come back to the bahamas, plus afive hundred dollars for a
mooring, you know for for themonth.
And then, um, we decided tojust it's cheaper to just sail
back, wow, and more fun.
(10:11):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (10:14):
Okay, so um, and what size boat was it?
Christian Patrick (10:19):
33.
Capn Tinsley (10:20):
Okay, so I have a 320.
So so I can, I can expect about800, right.
Christian Patrick (10:27):
Yes, if you want a fishing permit.
Capn Tinsley (10:31):
If I want a fishing permit.
Christian Patrick (10:32):
Yeah, yeah.
Pippa (10:33):
There's a non-negotiable anchoring fee, though it doesn't
matter if you've got a reserveand a marina slip.
Non-negotiable.
What was it?
100 or 200?
200.
Like an anchor fee yeah yeah sothe breakdown is is it?
Capn Tinsley (10:52):
it was a total of 800 for fishing and for
anchoring, and yeah yeah, that'sfor 12 months.
Christian Patrick (11:00):
Are you gonna leave the boat there and fly
back, or no?
Capn Tinsley (11:04):
I'm going to have cats with me.
I normally would do somethinglike that, but I'll have the
cats with me.
I'm not going to leave them.
They probably wouldn't likethat.
Anyway, I plan to stay inGeorgetown for about a month.
Okay, great, it's a six-monthcruising permit, right?
Pippa (11:28):
No it's only a year now, yeah, okay, and then the one,
that one that we got, the oneyear is just the one in and out
within 30 days, but again theboat can stay there.
But but if you get, like the, Iguess, the extra special VIP
permit where you can go in andout as much as you want, it's, I
(11:50):
think, $2,500 about.
Capn Tinsley (11:53):
Well, I saw something about $1,500.
I was getting real confused,but have you ever heard of a
$1,500?
Pippa (12:00):
one.
I think that's what it wasoriginally to do the in and out
all the time.
I don't know.
Capn Tinsley (12:06):
Like it's so confusing.
Pippa (12:07):
Even looking at the Bahamian government website, it
doesn't make any sense half ofit.
So yeah, it just oh well,christian.
Capn Tinsley (12:24):
What do you think the reason?
Pippa (12:25):
who is uh issuing your permit where you go, which
official you get to talk to?
Right is is what it boils downto, and I honestly had never
encountered that before becauseI'm sheltered, but apparently
that's just the way they operate.
Capn Tinsley (12:45):
Now tell me where you are, Pippa.
Pippa (12:49):
Oh, I'm in South Carolina right now taking care of some
stuff.
Capn Tinsley (12:53):
And you guys are newly engaged.
Christian Patrick (12:59):
Yeah.
Pippa (12:59):
I don't know.
Oh yeah, I guess About sixmonths now.
Christian Patrick (13:03):
That long.
Pippa (13:06):
I'm thinking about it.
I'm like wait, yeah, february,it's August, it's almost
September.
Capn Tinsley (13:11):
Yeah, but you've actually you've known each other
a long time, right?
Christian Patrick (13:17):
Yeah.
Yeah 36 years.
Pippa (13:21):
He's the second boy I ever kissed wow, that is pretty
cool.
Capn Tinsley (13:28):
Yeah, so you guys went off and had your own lives
and then you came back or yousaid you were checking in with
each other every so often.
Yeah, yeah.
Pippa (13:38):
And look at you now.
Yeah, I never thought.
Yeah, if you told 15-year-oldme that this was ahead of me, I
would have said no, you'reinsane, no, no.
Capn Tinsley (13:50):
Would you have been happy?
You just didn't think it would.
Pippa (13:54):
I don't know.
We were for too long we wanteddifferent things out of life,
and it would not have.
Know, we were for too long wewanted different things out of
life, and it wouldn't.
It would not have worked, wewould have made each other
miserable.
And now we can just run off andadventure.
Sure yeah.
Capn Tinsley (14:07):
All right.
So do you Christian, or both ofyou?
Do you think this is going todeter some sailors from going?
Christian Patrick (14:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's going to deter sailorsmore than power boaters, though,
Like you said, as a powerboater it doesn't really care
about a small fee like thiscompared to their fuel costs.
But yeah, we were in theBahamas for two weeks and we we,
(14:38):
we were in a hurry, so wemotored the whole time.
Uh, we spent $700, $700 in fuel, Um, and then yeah, and then
$700 in fees.
So you know that doubled ourbudget.
So for us it doesn't make senseto come back for a short trip
in the Bahamas again.
(14:59):
Also, also, sailing to theBahamas is an upwind sail, so
it's kind of it's usually goingto be more fuel to get there
than just come back, Whereassailing to Mexico or Belize is a
downwind sail, and I heard youmention that you're thinking
(15:19):
about going to Belize.
Yeah, yeah, belize.
Belize would be a greatalternative to the Bahamas.
So it all depends on the winds,you know, once we actually get
on the water, because if we havewest winds, yeah, it would be
better to sail on on to, uh, thedr and um, if we can get that
(15:42):
far, but um, we'll probably endup in cancun first and then
we'll okay yeah I don't carewhere we go, I don't care as
long as we go.
Pippa (15:54):
If we keep going all right.
Capn Tinsley (15:56):
So so tell us about that boat you're on right
now, christian.
Christian Patrick (15:59):
The two thousand dollar catamaran is it
yeah french catamaran, that is aluxury catamaran with four
state rooms and two bathrooms.
But uh, this particular uh type, uh, this particular model of
(16:21):
catamaran was was built more forperformance.
That has nice aerodynamic shapeon the top, the top deck, so it
handles pretty well and it'sreally well made a lot of, a lot
of.
It's really well made A lot ofracing.
Capn Tinsley (16:40):
Is he are you.
Is you hearing him coming inand out too?
Yeah, it's coming in and out.
I think you probably have to becloser to the mic, maybe.
Christian Patrick (16:49):
Yeah, yeah, how's that, is that better?
Capn Tinsley (16:51):
That's better, yeah.
Christian Patrick (16:53):
Yeah, well, yeah, it's a high performance
cruising boat and it likes to goabout seven knots, five to
seven, and I'm sure it'll go alot faster.
I think I got it up to eight sofar, but I haven't been in very
strong winds yet.
Capn Tinsley (17:10):
And there's no motor.
Christian Patrick (17:12):
Yeah, there's no motor.
Capn Tinsley (17:16):
That's why Pippa's not on the boat right.
Pippa (17:20):
There's so much work ahead of us.
Christian Patrick (17:24):
Yeah, well, I prefer to sail without a motor.
The ultimate force is without amotor, so I love to sail
without a motor.
Pippa (17:38):
You're breaking up again.
Capn Tinsley (17:40):
Yeah.
Christian Patrick (17:41):
Okay, what do you think of the window, or is
that the mic?
Pippa (17:47):
I think it's where you're standing.
So, what do?
Christian Patrick (17:51):
you think I need better reception?
Capn Tinsley (17:54):
Yeah, there you go .
That right there is good.
I'm dying to hear what you'resaying.
Pippa (18:03):
Keep it out from under the doghouse.
It interferes, I think.
Christian Patrick (18:08):
Oh, I can go on the bow.
Capn Tinsley (18:12):
It might put him in the wind, I don't know.
Christian Patrick (18:16):
I don't know.
Pippa (18:18):
Well, while he's doing thatippa, tell it, tell, tell
the folks where he got this boat, where you got this boat um
well, originally he sent me thelisting on ebay and this guy had
been trying to sell it formonths and he wanted an
outrageous amount of money forit.
Capn Tinsley (18:36):
And then it came down to the wire.
What's outrageous.
Pippa (18:41):
I think he wanted 50 grand.
Capn Tinsley (18:42):
Wow.
And it was like no With noengine, so you're missing two
engines.
Basically right, yep Both ofthem.
Pippa (18:56):
Wow, they're just in.
One is just in pieces sittingon top of the bunk and I walked
inside and I'm like, oh okay,what else do we got here?
It's a really great layout.
It's just going to require alot of work.
Christian Patrick (19:15):
So, tinsley, have you ever heard the saying
two oars is one and one oar isnone?
Capn Tinsley (19:23):
Say that again, two oars is.
Christian Patrick (19:25):
Two oars is one and one oar is none.
No, I have not Tell me, it'sfrom the adventure sailboat
races where when you don't havea motor, you always need to have
two oars because you'll loseone and then you'll end up with
one, or you'll if you only haveone, you'll lose it and then
(19:45):
you'll have none.
I see so that my philosophy isit's better to not have a motor
at all, then you're not countingon it, because you're going to
take risks uh, sailing andknowing that your motor can get
you out of a bind.
But if you know you don't havea motor, then you just don't
take those risks you know you'regonna.
(20:06):
It's just the way it's gonnastay no, no, I I want to move,
but this is great training yeahyeah, you know what the bow can
handle and you know what you canhandle and, uh, and it's good
to have have a backup plan forwhen the motor does fail and
(20:28):
you're in a bump, know what youcan do yeah, it's great training
.
Capn Tinsley (20:32):
It's like here go at it, make it work.
Just you know see how far youcan get.
Pippa (20:38):
But I got to my.
My issue is with the, theengines that are just sitting
there dead and it's going totake a lot of a lot of muscle
power to get it out.
You know not not even thinkingabout fixing it.
I'm just like that's going tobe a real pain in the ass to get
off the boat.
Capn Tinsley (20:57):
So you're going to have to probably get towed in
somewhere.
No, I mean you can't like, Imean you could, but you could
sail right into a slip and we'rerunning to get hauled out.
Christian Patrick (21:11):
No, we're going to sail onto our private
beach Bastion and then beach theboat there at high tide, okay,
and then, uh, yeah, we'll dragthe motors out with I'll make a
sled for them and you know thefloors aren't really nice right
now.
Anyways, they need, they needwork anyways.
(21:32):
So we'll just carry it on asled and then slide it.
Pippa (21:36):
Sure, he is MacGyver, he is absolutely MacGyver.
That's so nice, that's so great.
What was it?
Oh, he's like oh, I couldn'tget the mainsail up because this
and this is missing.
And then I'm like well, how areyou going to fix that?
And he took Allen wrenches tofix that and that's what he used
(21:57):
to get the main sail up andrunning.
Capn Tinsley (21:59):
Well, you kind of have to be that way when you're
a sailor, isn't that right?
Exactly, yeah, well, okay, solet's see what other questions
do I have here?
You often say people need tolearn to sail.
I liked it when you said that.
Christian Patrick (22:23):
Why do you believe that's so important?
Well, I think that the uhmiddle class is getting squashed
.
Um, actually, you know, inrelation to the bahamas and I
think the the us, it's happeningmostly in the us and the
bahamas is just kind offollowing along with what the us
is doing.
Uh, the, the, the inflation isgetting crazy and then the jobs
are getting lost to AI andautomation.
(22:44):
And people should first of allfollow their dreams.
If they have a dream to sail,they should do it now, while
they still have some financialpower and freedom to follow
their dreams.
And, who knows, it may be a wayof life that's an alternative
to capitalism a way of life, tolive without having to be a wage
(23:08):
slave.
Capn Tinsley (23:09):
Well, I had a guy on here one time that said he
bought his boat during the COVIDand he considered it kind of
like the zombie apocalypse andso he said he wanted to get out
away from everything.
So he got a boat and that washis escape from the zombie
(23:30):
apocalypse.
Pippa (23:33):
It was a good theory.
Yeah, that tracks, that tracks,that tracks.
Yeah, that tracks, that tracks,that tracks.
I mean, it's sailing communityis.
It's very tight-knit, it's verydifferent and there's, like
I've noticed this weird rivalrybetween the powerboat bros and
(23:55):
the sailors and like they'relike oh, dirty boat, scum.
And I just I don't get it.
I mean, sailing is, is elegantand it's a sport and it's, you
know, it requires a lot of brainpower.
You don't just turn it on andgo woohoo, that's not how that
works.
Capn Tinsley (24:14):
So right, it is two, two um areas of thought.
Most definitely, um, I have afast car but I have a slow boat
and for some reason that's whatI like, you know, because I mean
there's an expression that, ifyou notice the like I live in
gulf shores, orange beach,alabama, so there's a lot of
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boating, mostly power boaters,and they are in such a hurry,
like they're just like.
I mean, they're not talking oranything and they're on their
way to a destination, butsailors are.
Their destination is thejourney, exactly.
So it's just a different schoolof thought.
Christian Patrick (24:57):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (24:58):
But we need those power boaters whenever we need
to get towed or something youknow.
Pippa (25:02):
Yeah we just don't need that.
We just don't need the snarkyattitude.
Yeah, and someone could pull meoff the sandbar.
Capn Tinsley (25:09):
You know we need those guys so we all work well
together.
But, uh, yeah, so okay, um, so,yeah, uh, my, I have my boat
set up like if the world ended.
You know, I wanted it to be setup like if I had to exist on
that boat and the world blew upor something.
I would have everything I need,so the solar and the wind
(25:32):
generator and the lithiumbatteries and all that good
stuff.
So I see you've got some solar.
Is it all working?
Oh, we lost them.
Christian Patrick (25:46):
Not working yet.
Can you hear me Sort?
Pippa (25:49):
of.
I'm betting they're not pluggedin yet.
Capn Tinsley (25:53):
Okay, so they're not quite working yet you could
use that, you don't?
Christian Patrick (25:57):
have an engine to charge your batteries.
Pippa (26:08):
What are you doing?
Christian Patrick (26:12):
out there that's, I think.
He left with two car batteries,three, yeah, fully charged, the
last me like six months, wow.
All I can do is charge my phoneup every once in a while.
Capn Tinsley (26:24):
Yeah, I mean, when you don't have a lot on there,
that's working, I guess yeah.
So tell us about the freethree-day sailing lessons.
What made you decide to do that?
Christian Patrick (26:42):
three-day sailing lessons.
What made you decide to do that?
Well, I had a boat in New YorkCity and I couldn't find a place
to keep it, so that was under$3,000, and the nearest place
that was more reasonable waslike two hours drive.
So I decided to just sail theboat around and kind of figure
it out and keep it here andthere.
And I found a beach and thatbeach was really the first beach
(27:08):
I went to.
I tied the boat to a tree there.
And then I ended up keeping theboat there for several months
and and decided, hey, this is areally good spot.
We should, um we should getmore boats and start a free
sailing school, um, because it'ssuch a great spot.
So basically, I found the spotand then the school came as a
(27:30):
byproduct of it did you get anytakers yeah, yeah, we have about
1600 uh members members in theNew York City Freestyle School
meetup and we started anotherone.
Pippa and I started one inFlorida and we have about how
many members?
About 100 or so.
(27:51):
Almost yeah, yeah, we haveabout 100.
And yeah, we do the seminarsevery month.
Yeah, we have about 100.
And yeah, we do the seminarsevery month.
We've done about seven of themnow in Florida and we have 30
consecutive ones, so you do someclassroom work and then you
(28:12):
take people out.
Yeah, yeah, we do classroom work, but it's about making it a
sustainable preschool that canbe replicated all over the world
if there's interest.
Pippa (28:27):
It's more of a skill sharing.
In my opinion, it's becausewe're not assigning them
homework.
It's like learning they need todo on their own or we can show
them resources, but everyonekind of comes together and talks
about their experiences andthen Christian takes them out
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sailing on small cats.
Christian Patrick (28:51):
Yeah, yeah, I give them professional lessons,
but then, once they're able tosail on their own, we encourage
them to sail our small boats ontheir own.
And they learn a lot faster ontheir own than with an
instructor.
Capn Tinsley (29:05):
Sure, so you have boats.
You got some boats.
Christian Patrick (29:09):
Oh yeah, we have so many boats now.
We have about six working boatsand a bunch of project boats in
Florida, working boats and abunch of project boats in
Florida and New York.
We had about eight workingboats and about 30 project boats
.
Capn Tinsley (29:26):
So where is there is.
So there's there at a specificlocation.
Christian Patrick (29:30):
Yeah yeah, we have a beach that we have
access to with my friends.
Capn Tinsley (29:34):
Sebastian, I've heard of sebastian inlet, yeah,
yeah, where where is that?
Christian Patrick (29:41):
yeah, it's just south of the inlet, on the
uh mainland side of the bay inmiami I know it's over north of
bureau and south of uh of uh,orlando, okay, south of orlando,
yeah, on the east coast, therebetween, basically between cape
(30:03):
canaveral and west palm beachokay, it's so northern florida
treasure coast okay, treasureokay.
Capn Tinsley (30:10):
So if somebody wanted to, they could just look
you up on um where yeah, we'reon meetup where yeah we're on
Meetup, meetup, yeah, meetupcom.
Christian Patrick (30:25):
The website is meetupcom.
Forward slash FFBL 2025.
That's hard.
Florida Free Boat Library.
Capn Tinsley (30:36):
I was going to try to put that in a banner, but I
don't think I quite caught it.
But let's see, give it to meone more time.
Okay, meetupcom, okay,meetupcom.
Christian Patrick (30:49):
And then forward splash FFBL like boat
library FFBL okay.
And then 2025, 2025.
3025?
Capn Tinsley (31:01):
like library, ff, bl, okay.
And then zero to five, three.
Zero to five, so like the year2025, okay.
So let's see if I have thisright.
How's that?
Oh yeah okay, so I don't knowmuch about it, but he's got a
(31:25):
free seminar, so go there if youwant to learn about it.
Pippa (31:29):
I mean there's, I think, there, people be interested in
that everybody comes out onSaturday We've got to go Friday
(31:51):
in order to meet everybody andsort of.
You know, we just talk aboutour experiences and you know,
Christian kind of goes over somebasics with them and asks you
know, especially the new sailors, you know, why are you here,
what do you, what do you want toget out of this?
And, and then most of the restof the time is just sailors
telling stories, and I love tohear it.
So, and then Saturday everybodygets out and you know they're
(32:15):
working all day, sure, you know,clean up the beach, we camp out
at night there and we usuallydo a movie night on Saturday
nights, which is just sort of athing we do now because it's fun
and sort of community buildingafter a long hard day.
And then Sunday everybody justgets out and sails again until
(32:38):
they're tired and go home.
Capn Tinsley (32:41):
Somebody just sent me a link on Instagram.
What's that link about?
Somebody oleenderline32.
Before I pull that, link up.
Pippa (32:54):
Tell me what it is.
I have no idea.
Capn Tinsley (32:58):
No well, you can't see it.
It's over on Instagram, solet's see.
All right, so what's thebiggest mistake you see sailors
making right now?
I'm sure you've got an opinion.
Christian Patrick (33:13):
Oh yeah, let's hear it.
I mean, I deal with new sailorsall the time and everybody that
comes to me wants like a30-foot boat and that's their
first boat.
Capn Tinsley (33:24):
A 30-foot.
A 30-foot.
Christian Patrick (33:26):
Yeah, a 30-foot or so Out of it.
I try to tell them you know,start with a little boat.
Learning how to sail first isthe hardest to learn on a big
boat.
But they don't want to do that.
Capn Tinsley (33:40):
Well, we're catching every third word there.
Why don't you tell me, pippa, Ican hear you better.
Pippa (33:51):
We get a lot of new students that come in.
They're not even students,they're at that point.
It's sort of the community thathe's building and they all want
to learn to sail like a big 30foot monohull because they want
to live on it or something.
But he's trying to teach themthe basics because if you can
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get a feel for a small boat onthe water, you're going to have
a lot easier time on a big boatbecause you know the principles,
you know the basics, you knowhow to get yourself out of
trouble using just a littleHobie cat or something.
That's how you learn and thenyou can do something else.
(34:33):
But it's people that are tryingto basically fly before they
can even crawl Right, and that'snot making a good sailor,
that's just indulging.
That's just indulging a wish.
Capn Tinsley (34:49):
Yeah, I think a good learning boat is like a
Catalina 22.
That's an excellent boat, yeah.
But when I'm at somewhere, youyou know, like in a marina
somewhere, I'll you know how youget new people walking by,
looking at all the boats andit's like, oh, this is what we
want to do and they, oh great,what kind of you know we're
(35:12):
getting a boat and what are yougoing to get?
Oh, 50, and they've neversailed before.
Yeah, yeah, that boat probablywon't leave the dock you know,
yeah, exactly.
I always tell people go small,go now.
Christian Patrick (35:30):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
A lot of people wait until theyhear what the take-take was
about ready wish we could hearyou.
Pippa (35:45):
I know we can't you gotta how about now?
Capn Tinsley (35:51):
it's just kind of breaking up a little bit yeah,
now better.
So here's a yeah, that's yeah,we can hear you.
So here's a yeah, that's yeah,we can hear you.
Now here's a comment fromInstagram.
Let's see.
He says guy needs a handpromoting his participation next
year after his rebuild ofspirit.
(36:13):
Is that the name of your boat?
I must be talking aboutsomebody else.
Pippa (36:19):
I don't really know what that's referring.
Capn Tinsley (36:23):
Yeah, he wrote a bunch of things out here, so I'm
not sure what he means.
Tell us what you mean, okay, sowhere were we?
Christian Patrick (36:34):
Well, I was thinking.
Another mistake people make isthey want to have all the wow
before they go they want to haveall the, what they want to have
, all the driving, you know,people get so caught up in the
gear that they forget toactually go sailing.
Capn Tinsley (36:55):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's why a little
small boat is better to start oneveryone's like oh yeah, and
without all the, you don't needreally a lot of upgrades like,
look at you right now well, yeah, that's my point.
Christian Patrick (37:14):
Uh, you want to, you want to fail, simply.
And then, when you addcomplicated systems, you know
how to appreciate them.
You know the difference betweenthe complicated system and the
alternative, which thealternative is let's have a mast
that sticks up in the air, putsthe sails on it, have a rudder
(37:34):
that steers, and that'sbasically all you need right.
Capn Tinsley (37:38):
The more stuff you have, the more it'll break yeah
yeah, and it's sure to breakyeah, yeah, exactly I mean, just
look at our cars.
Pippa (37:50):
They're basically only made the last 10 years now,
before everything just starts tobreak down and your hoses and
all that other stuff.
Like these boats, though, asidefrom the moving parts, they're
built.
They're built to last, right.
So the less you have tomaintain and manage, the better
(38:13):
off you're going to be, becausewe all know that a boat is
because we all know that a boatis, you know, projects underway.
Yeah, that never happens.
Capn Tinsley (38:22):
So we know, so tell me when, pippa, you're
going to be ready to get on thatboat with them Soon.
Pippa (38:34):
I guess we're just going to get it ready for next month
and then start working on it andthen, you know, as soon as it's
habitable, at least for thislittle princess here, then take
it on out.
Capn Tinsley (38:51):
He looks okay, though he looks.
Yeah, he loves this stuff.
Pippa (38:55):
The harder it is, the more he loves it.
Capn Tinsley (39:00):
Are you retired Christian?
Christian Patrick (39:02):
Yeah, mostly, mostly.
Capn Tinsley (39:05):
Yeah, yeah, I still work, but luckily my job
allows me to kind of work mostlyfrom wherever, mostly.
But so how long are you goingto be in the Keys there,
christian, with your boat?
Christian Patrick (39:28):
Well, I don't know.
Pippa (39:29):
Something about a headwind.
That's all I got.
Christian Patrick (39:32):
Yeah.
Pippa (39:33):
Man.
Capn Tinsley (39:34):
I hate that we're having these audio issues,
because I really want to hearwhat you have to say.
Christian Patrick (39:44):
Oh, I don't know what my phone.
I guess we should have testedthe mic before.
Capn Tinsley (39:49):
Maybe it's your service there.
Yeah, I think it's the signal?
Yeah, I think so yeah likeyou'll be talking.
Christian Patrick (39:59):
All of a sudden it starts getting real
choppy.
Oh okay, let me.
Let me see if I can change myserver real quick.
Capn Tinsley (40:03):
Okay, in the meantime, peppa, peppa can tell
me the answer to that.
I can hear you, I do hear allthe.
I hear all the bugs behind you.
Pippa (40:19):
Oh no.
Capn Tinsley (40:19):
They're coming in.
I put you up.
I did some, I just I put it on.
I put reduced background noise.
That helped for a minute.
Pippa (40:30):
But anyway, go ahead.
I forgot what we were talkingabout.
Capn Tinsley (40:33):
How long is he going to be in the Keys?
Pippa (40:37):
Oh, I think well, and get it moved over to Sebastian.
So he's been actively doingthat only, I guess about three
days now.
He kind of went down.
He did one leg already byhimself, and then I had to come
(40:59):
up here and take care of somestuff, and then now your mic's
not on.
Capn Tinsley (41:04):
Well, I did that because there's a lot of noise.
Pippa (41:06):
So he's, I'll turn it back on when he's ready to talk
but yeah, so he's, he's beendoing that, um, but he had to
scramble and run back and runthe seminar and I couldn't be
there this time.
First one I the first one I'vemissed and I just had too many
things that I had to take careof and I had to miss it and it
(41:26):
sucks.
Capn Tinsley (41:28):
How long have you all been doing those seminars?
Pippa (41:31):
Since March, and before that since last August, we've
been running around the UnitedStates picking up boats that
have been donated so that wecould use them to start this up.
Boats that have been donated sothat we could use them to start
this up, and I think thefurthest we went, we went to
Detroit to pick up a Hobie.
So the Hobie Bravo is what hereally likes to teach on,
(41:55):
because they're small, they'recompact, they're one piece,
they're pretty muchindestructible.
Okay, yeah, we spent monthsrunning around picking those up
and getting everything in placebecause he didn't want to take
away from the New York schooljust because they've grown so
big and they're self-sufficientnow, and we didn't want to take
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anything away from them.
So we went and got more boatsand started another one.
Capn Tinsley (42:23):
That is great, so that one's going good.
Huh Yep Up in New York.
Christian Patrick (42:29):
Yeah, yeah, they're on their own.
I'm no longer a part of that,but they're still active and
they're still teaching, sailingand having weekly get-togethers,
as far as I know.
Capn Tinsley (42:41):
Okay, and now do you?
You said you, you said you,you're professionally, you're
giving professional lessons.
Are you certified to be aninstructor or because it's free,
they, you don't have to havethat right, right, no, I don't
have any certifications, um,just my own experience, um, and
which is great, yeah it.
Christian Patrick (43:03):
I tell everybody that they should learn
from as many instructors aspossible and find the type of
instructor that resonates withthem the most and stick to them,
and also read books and learnfrom videos.
And the best way to learn is tojust get enough.
(43:26):
Get enough knowledge from aninstructor as quickly as
possible so you can just go outthere and sail on your own and
then you learn, then you take aninterest in it because it's
it's relevant to what you'redoing and you just start
searching for knowledge in other, in all different ways, as many
ways as you can.
Capn Tinsley (43:45):
Yeah, even after I took ASA 101, 103, and 104, I
really learned a lot just bygetting out there.
Christian Patrick (43:53):
Yeah.
Pippa (43:55):
There's nothing better teacher than doing and as long
as you have, i't know, trainingwheels.
Basically, then and that's whatthe group is about is
everybody's.
You know, nobody's out there bythemselves.
That's kind of the so thatwe're all there as a community
(44:17):
to watch each other and helpeach other, and that's.
I think that's done a lot forthese people.
For all of us to be able tohave access to these boats and
be part of a community and learnfrom each other is amazing.
Capn Tinsley (44:39):
I was trying to block those bugs out.
It's dinner time.
Okay, sorry, I'm trying tocough.
Pippa (44:52):
Cicadas are out here screaming.
Capn Tinsley (44:54):
That's it.
That's what I was trying tothink of.
What do you think about thesocial media?
Do you think it glamorizessailing?
Pippa (45:08):
for sure it, it can, but I see enough.
I see enough people that areout there showing reality like,
yes, it's not all wine andcheese and sunsets.
Sometimes there's overflowingheads, stuff breaks, there's
close calls, I mean all kinds ofproblems, and I really
appreciate the people that showthat that type of thing, because
(45:32):
it's not all sunset cruises andhappiness.
There's weird tension when youhave, you know, trying to anchor
or trying to dock, and I neverexperienced that before so I
didn't know what to do with it.
Capn Tinsley (45:50):
Yeah, you can watch that when you, if you sit
in the marina and watch couplescoming in and out of the dock,
that's when you really test yourrelationship.
Pippa (46:08):
I've just kind of taken it in stride, Like when we were
going through the locks.
I'd never been through thelocks before.
I didn't know.
How cool is it that you cancall the bridge and be like
hello, I would like you to openthis bridge for me please.
That was a lot of fun.
I had no idea what I was doingand he gave me the tools to do
this and said here you go, do ithow you want, but this is how
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you should do it, this is howit's expected.
And then when we got to some ofthose Are you talking about
Christian?
He gave you the tools.
Capn Tinsley (46:39):
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Pippa (46:41):
And when we were going through the locks where they you
raise it up or down, um, it wasa scramble, you know.
The first time he was like yougotta grab this rope.
No, grab it this way.
That was a little stressful itcan get a little tense.
I didn't know, I had no idea.
But as long as you're open to,I mean mean, yeah, that's his
(47:05):
ship, he's the captain, he makesthe rules.
I just have to support him andbelieve that he knows best in
what he's doing and, so far,100% success rate of keeping my
dumb ass alive.
Capn Tinsley (47:19):
So yeah, you know, my husband was really bad about
it at first.
He would we'd be coming in andhe'd start yelling things at me
and I'm, I'm driving the boat,you know, and and I finally had
to just pull up short outside ofwhatever marina we're coming
into and I'd say now it's thetime for questions, comments and
(47:39):
suggestions.
Once we get in there, no, and Igo.
Do you have anything to say?
And he goes no.
Soon as we get in there, nomore.
And so and of course he stilldid it a little bit he got much
better just to trust me, becausehe would go do you see that
pole?
I go, I'm at it.
(48:00):
So it is a learning process forthe person that's not driving
has to learn to trust you.
And you know, when we didn'thit a bunch of boats all the
time, he finally learned totrust me.
But yeah, if you want toentertainment, you can go to a
(48:21):
launch or something and watchpeople how they fuss over, it
turns into some pretty tensemoments.
Pippa (48:34):
There have been a few times where he's been scrambling
and I didn't understand whatthe situation was and I just,
you know he's like I need yourhelp to do this, this.
And okay, I have no idea whatI'm doing, but, yes, here are my
hands and, you know, 10 minuteslater he was like wow, we were
really in trouble there.
And I'm like, no, you handledit fine, everything went.
(48:56):
You know, I clueless,absolutely clueless, but you
know, every situation we'vegotten in, we've gotten out of
so far, and how are your skillsnow?
they're better than they werestill not really.
Still not really where I wouldlike them to be, but there's no
(49:18):
better teacher than doing yeah,I mean you.
Capn Tinsley (49:22):
I at least the basics.
If he was to fall off the boat,would you be able to turn the
boat around and go back, youknow?
Those are some basics that youhave to learn.
Pippa (49:34):
Yeah, but sometimes I do think about that scene in
Battleship where they throw outthe anchors and swing around
like it's Fast and furious, likeyeah, I can't do that, but I
want to.
Capn Tinsley (49:47):
All right, well, okay.
Um.
So what's one opinion,christian?
Hopefully we'll be able to hearyour answer.
What's one opinion aboutsailing that most people won't
agree with?
What's one opinion of yours?
Christian Patrick (50:10):
Yeah, well, gosh, what can we talk about
here?
Capn Tinsley (50:17):
I'm trying to get you to get fired up, like in
your videos.
Christian Patrick (50:24):
Okay, well, sailing is better suited to poor
people than rich people,because you have to be able to
fix things and interested infixing things.
And you have to have a lot offree time.
So those are two things thatrich people don't really have.
Capn Tinsley (50:49):
You think poor people have time?
Well, oh God.
The people working two jobs forthree hours?
Well, yeah, they do better off.
But, you're probably right,they have the skills.
A lot of times they'll have theskills to be able to work on
their own boat Is.
But you're probably right, theyhave the skills.
A lot of times they'll have theskills to be able to work on
their own boat.
Is that what you mean?
(51:09):
Yeah, sure, yeah, the interestI think they have the will more.
Okay.
Pippa (51:15):
All right, but yeah, sailing shouldn't cost hundreds
of thousands of dollars.
This is one of the oldestmethods of transportation and
the fact that it has been, Idon't know, hoarded or gatekept
by the wealthy just doesn't makesense to me.
Capn Tinsley (51:39):
You mean like the anchor laws and all that stuff
in Florida.
Pippa (51:43):
You mean like the anchor laws and all that stuff in
Florida.
Not just that, but the factthat some people again coming
back to the if this is a$100,000 boat and I don't have
matching shirts and all the gear, no, no, you just get on the
boat and go.
Capn Tinsley (51:58):
Yeah, yeah.
Pippa (51:59):
It's about the adventure, it's not the destination.
Capn Tinsley (52:03):
Right.
Pippa (52:03):
Like you said.
Capn Tinsley (52:04):
Well, I think I've noticed that, even with sailors
, as opposed to power boaters,that it just seems like they
blend well together.
You know, whether they're on a$300 boat or a 500 000 boat or a
(52:26):
50 000 boat, um, I think peoplehave been, are willing to help
each other, and I've had peopleyou know I can help you with
that.
You know that kind of thingbecause I'm not a mechanic, I
have a credit card, I can doanything on a boat.
I can operate, I can, sail, Ican.
(52:46):
I'm very techie, you know.
But as far as like fixing theengine, um, I've learned a lot,
but it's not my forte.
So they're very lucky to havethis, this man here that knows
how to MacGyver everything, andmy husband wasn't either.
(53:06):
He's more of a.
We were both kind ofwhite-collar workers, you know
we could do all kinds of stuffwith a computer, but apparently
that's a different part of themind.
I've noticed that all the guysthat fix boats don't know how to
operate their phone very well.
It must be two parts of thebrain.
Or guys that can build a house,they can't use a computer, it
(53:32):
just must be.
Now, christian might be allthose things, I don't know, he's
a little bit of a Luddite, justa little bit.
Are you the one that does thesocial media and everything?
Well, he does social media.
I know that he does.
Pippa (53:48):
Yeah, he does his own, but I also run like a different
channel, which is just kind of.
It became a joke, because everytime I hear somebody, hey,
christian, and then there's thislong, complicated question and
he always, always answers them.
Wow.
(54:08):
So I just started a channelthat was basically him sailing
tips or tying knots or you knowsilly stuff, the stuff that he
doesn't really think about,because he just gets on and uses
it basically as a personaldiary, which is great.
Capn Tinsley (54:27):
He does All right.
Is there a sailing skill youthink is overlooked but
absolutely essential?
Christian Patrick (54:37):
It might be to fix stuff right uh, yeah,
yeah, I think I think knots arereally useful.
Um, I just if you could justput them all into like one
category of just like riggingstuff.
You got to be able to rig stuff, you know you got to be able to
to bypass a system and look atit big picture and make it work.
(55:00):
You know, like, simplify,simplify.
You know, like I, if I hadenough money to have a brand new
boat, everything would workperfectly.
But these, these old boats,like this boat's from 1994 and
it has a lot of complicatedsystems on it and all this and
most of those systems are arenot working.
So when I came on this boat, Ihad to simplify so many things
(55:25):
to make the operation.
Capn Tinsley (55:28):
Are you going to have to replace a lot?
Christian Patrick (55:32):
Yeah, so far the boat works the way I need it
to.
I just need a motor.
I've got a plan for that.
But as far as all the for thatand uh, but as far as, as far as
all the systems that work onthe boat, it all, it all works,
Um, and it's just now.
It's just organizing it andmaking it clean and um, and then
(55:56):
you know, like you said, youknow, if there's a zombie
apocalypse, I have to be readytomorrow or today.
That's my philosophy Be readyas quickly as possible, because
this boat is not just a boat,it's a deep route, it's
cooperative.
Capn Tinsley (56:15):
And it's got to be Pippa ready.
That's her number one goal,right.
Pippa (56:21):
Pippa ready.
He'll get it close enough thatI can manage.
Capn Tinsley (56:26):
That's funny.
Okay, so here's some rapid fireones here.
I think I know the answer tothis one Bahamas or Caribbean.
Christian Patrick (56:35):
Oh, um Caribbean.
Capn Tinsley (56:38):
Monohull or catamaran oh catamaran, cat,
alright, I like both, but Iprefer Mono hole or catamaran oh
catamaran, of course.
Pippa (56:44):
Cat.
All right, I mean I like both,but I prefer.
I find I prefer being on a cat,just for the stability.
Christian Patrick (56:51):
A little more comfortable.
Yeah, what about you?
Capn Tinsley (56:56):
What about what?
What about you?
Well, I'm a traditionalist, soI've got an island pack at 320.
It's a mono hole.
Christian Patrick (57:03):
Yeah, you never tried a multi-hull.
Capn Tinsley (57:06):
I've been on them, but I've never.
You know, for a lot of peoplethey get priced out, unless you
buy a $2,000 boat on eBay.
Christian Patrick (57:14):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (57:15):
Then you got to have some skills to fix it up.
But catamarans are kind of hardto park.
You know, if you're going to bein a marina, there's double
everything.
You've got two motors and twowhatever is in those cabins?
You know heads and multipleheads and all that stuff.
Christian Patrick (57:37):
Yeah, yeah also, monohulls are better.
Capn Tinsley (57:44):
Is that right?
That makes sense.
Christian Patrick (57:47):
Yeah, monohulls can go closer upwind.
Capn Tinsley (57:51):
Yeah, but they're very comfortable, like if you're
hanging out in the Bahamas.
We'll just put those fees aside.
That's a very comfortable placeto live for the next six months
, you know, you know, in a in acatamaran, yeah, but so it could
be an issue of pricing peopleout.
Catamarans are just super,super expensive, you know, even
(58:15):
if they're not brand new.
But if you've got yoursituation where you've got
something that you can fixyourself, that's a different
situation.
You were able to take advantageof that.
That's pretty great.
Pippa (58:28):
I have seen a lot of people lately.
I mean, I don't know if it'sjust because the content is
being pushed towards me toobecause of interaction, but a
lot of people are buying boatsto live on them and they're
fixing them and it's uh, it'sbeen amazing to see that and
(58:49):
realize that there's just thiswhole other I don't know like
culture yeah, it's a wholecommunity, you know yeah, and
that they're almost alwayswelcoming to these new people.
they're like this is so great, Ican't wait to see you out there
.
Do you need any help?
It's just been an incrediblething to stumble upon.
Capn Tinsley (59:13):
Yes, and even power boaters have been very
generous with me.
I've just found the wholeboating community Now.
I don't like them when they youknow, when I'm going down the
ICW on the west coast of Floridaand these big old things come
out of nowhere and they just I'mjust sitting there like I'm
trying not to land in theshallow water that's just to the
(59:36):
right of the channel.
Pippa (59:38):
Some of them are pretty rude, but even power boaters can
be very generous with theirtime and you know that kind of
thing I just don't like the onesthat are, uh, drinking maker's
park and you know, at noon andsaying, oh, we really need to
get back on the boat and, uh,we're gonna all, they're gonna
drive, they're gonna drive afterjust slamming like half a
(01:00:01):
bottle of maker's Bark, I'm like, yeah, I don't want to be on
the water with those people.
Capn Tinsley (01:00:05):
Yeah, there's those out there.
Sure, Okay, favorite anchorageso far.
Christian Patrick (01:00:13):
Wow, man Gosh .
Capn Tinsley (01:00:19):
Sometimes it's hard to choose.
Yeah, I like Newfound Harbor.
I like that.
Are you heading south?
Are you going to be goingtowards that?
Christian Patrick (01:00:28):
No, I'm heading north right now, okay,
but yeah, we'll head down toCancun, probably next.
Capn Tinsley (01:00:37):
Yeah, stop off at Newfound Harbor.
It's by Ramrod Key.
Christian Patrick (01:00:41):
Oh yeah.
Capn Tinsley (01:00:41):
Beautiful anchorage.
Okay, yeah, beautiful, oh okay,harbors by ramrod key, oh yeah
beautiful anchorage.
Christian Patrick (01:00:46):
Okay, yeah, beautiful.
Capn Tinsley (01:00:46):
Oh okay, I'll check it out yeah, there's quite
a few stops right there.
Um, on that on that atlanticside, and on the inside too.
Okay, you're, how much water doyou draw?
Christian Patrick (01:01:00):
three and a half that's amazing water.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:03):
do you draw Three and a half?
That's amazing.
I'm 4'2, 5".
Christian Patrick (01:01:07):
Oh okay.
Pippa (01:01:10):
That's pretty shallow for a monohull right.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:12):
Yeah, it's a full keel.
Christian Patrick (01:01:14):
Oh.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:15):
So, yeah it's a blue water boat, but I can go to
the Bahamas too, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Pippa (01:01:23):
So I did like the.
Where were we?
Was it Umbrella Cay, rightoutside of there.
That was really pretty.
It was just Where's that?
It was quiet in the BahamasOkay.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:36):
Is that the?
Pippa (01:01:36):
right place.
Capn Tinsley (01:01:37):
Yeah, where's it close?
Christian Patrick (01:01:39):
to that was in the Abacos.
Okay, yeah, I think it was bywhat do you say?
It was?
It was by our grandkid, I thinkgrandkid okay yeah, and foxtown
, near foxtown, you know, uh oneof those barrier islands to the
(01:02:03):
north of Marsh Harbor.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:05):
Okay, okay, this guy said quiet.
Dreamboat under 40 feet.
Oh man.
Christian Patrick (01:02:16):
I got it.
I got it for $2,000 on eBay.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:19):
Seriously, that's got to be very satisfying.
Christian Patrick (01:02:23):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:25):
Any problems getting insurance?
Christian Patrick (01:02:28):
No problem at all, I don't need it.
You self-insure when the boat's$2,000,.
You self-insure.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:35):
That's true.
It's going to be worth moresomeday, though, right.
Christian Patrick (01:02:40):
Absolutely.
Capn Tinsley (01:02:41):
It's probably worth more now.
Anyway, one sailing gadget youactually trust my iphone worst
sailing habit.
Christian Patrick (01:02:54):
You see, people do oh, oh, gosh um this
will make you think yeah, umsteer to the compass.
When people steer to thecompass, sometimes you it has
like a lag and you end up likedoing a 360 sometimes
interesting.
Capn Tinsley (01:03:15):
Okay, so to the old-fashioned compass, right the
yeah okay, you can end up doingit like a big wide circle or
something.
Christian Patrick (01:03:24):
Yeah, start chasing the numbers, right, and
you're not looking outside atyour references and you start
turning in a circle.
Capn Tinsley (01:03:34):
Wow Okay, beer, rum or coffee at Anchor.
Christian Patrick (01:03:40):
I'll let Pip answer that one.
I'll let Pippa answer that one.
Pippa (01:03:44):
This man drinks nothing but herbal tea, no caffeine, no
alcohol, nothing.
Capn Tinsley (01:03:51):
I don't do any of that stuff either, but I do
drink caffeine.
That's my one thing.
Pippa (01:04:02):
For me it's if I've been out too long and I want a Dr
Pepper.
I want a dr pepper very, verybadly okay that's, that's my
advice.
Capn Tinsley (01:04:07):
That's it.
Huh, okay, that's, I like thatanswer always, you're always uh,
you're always, uh, payingattention when you just drink dr
pepper.
One word, one word to describesailing life Freedom, perfect.
(01:04:28):
That's a good way to end itright there, because you have a
video that's sailing equalsfreedom.
That's perfect, All right.
Well, that's it.
That's all the questions I have.
How about you guys?
Anything you want to say, Tellpeople out there.
We haven't had a lot ofquestions, but there'll be
people you know more peoplewatching in the replay.
Christian Patrick (01:04:51):
Yeah.
Capn Tinsley (01:04:52):
So anything you want to say to people, get out
there, go sailing.
Everybody, learn to sail, screwthe Bahamas.
Whatever you want to say, yeah.
Pippa (01:05:07):
Go ahead.
Whatever you want to say, yeah,go ahead.
I'm just going to say that ifyou ever wanted something and
you've thought about it, then ifnot now, when?
Just do it.
Get out there, start, start,small, start somewhere.
Just go, make steps to makeyour dream real.
Don't just sit there and wishand hope.
Capn Tinsley (01:05:28):
Someday.
Yeah, don't do that.
Yeah, and we're proving that wecan even do it.
There's some jobs that allowfor it, even before you retire.
Yep, all right.
Well, that's it, you guys.
So we're going to want anupdate on that boat.
And what do you call those bugs?
(01:05:50):
Again, I always forget.
What are those bugs in yourback?
Cicadas, cicadas.
Yeah, they are on fire tonight,aren't they?
Pippa (01:06:00):
It's like there's the woods of South Carolina.
Capn Tinsley (01:06:03):
Yeah, we have them here too, and I love that
sunset behind you, patrick, thatis awesome, that is beautiful.
Let's see it, let's see.
Can you kind of show us what'saround you there?
Got the kayak?
Is that the kayak there?
Christian Patrick (01:06:20):
Yeah, I got my kayaks here you got two of
them.
Huh, the kayak with the holes.
Capn Tinsley (01:06:23):
Yeah, I got my kayaks here.
You got two of them.
Huh, the kayak with the holes.
Yeah, part of the $2,000.
No, those are yours, okay.
Christian Patrick (01:06:31):
No, yeah, $50 kayaks.
They always have a problem withthem.
You know, got holes in them.
Oh, that's great.
Got my big fortress, that'sgreat Is that with the
trampoline is that you'resitting on the.
Capn Tinsley (01:06:48):
Is that what you call it?
Yeah, I'm on the trampoline.
Yeah, yeah, it's catamaran.
Talk the trampoline alrightguys.
Well, thank you so much.
Y'all look great thank you forhaving us.
Your cameras are looking good,you guys are looking healthy,
you're looking happy.
I appreciate you guys coming onand we'll see you again.
(01:07:08):
I'm going to be down.
You're going north, though, soyou guys aren't going to be in
the Keys like in October,november.
Christian Patrick (01:07:19):
Yeah, maybe you're going to get it fixed
before then yeah, we're going toget it all fixed and then sail
back down to, probably to theKeys and then decide if we're
going to go east or west.
Okay, we might go west and thengo to Cancun first.
Capn Tinsley (01:07:43):
Okay, All right.
Christian Patrick (01:07:44):
well, maybe we'll pass in the keys yeah, we
never have a plan, because um,we just don't we're very uh we
(01:08:18):
just don't, yeah, we just don't.
Capn Tinsley (01:08:19):
Uh, you know, when there are plans, to think if
this plan is so bad, it must beone of ours, all right, and with
that we will say goodnight andthank you so much, guys, and
we'll see you.
We'll see you soon, saltyabandon, thank you.
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