Salty Podcast #76 ⛵ PredictWind: Weather Tools Every Sailor Should Know

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Capn Tinsley (00:05):
Tonight we're talking about something every
sailor needs to understandweather.
If you've ever tossed the lines, you know that understanding
forecasts and routing can makethe difference between a smooth
passage and a rough one.
To dig into this, I'm joined byKaren McMaster from New Zealand
, from PredictWin.
We'll break down the tools, theforecasts and how sailors like
you and me can use them to makesmarter decisions offshore and

(00:27):
prior to leaving the dock.
But before we get underway, ifyou're enjoying this sailing
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I'm your host, captain Tinsley,of Sailing Vessels, salty
Abandoned and Island Packet 320,.
And this is the Salty Podcast,episode 76.
Please help me.
Welcome, karen McMaster.
Hello, hello, welcome.

(00:50):
Thank you, welcome to the SaltyPodcast.
Thank you so much.
You guys reached out to me andI was thrilled, so we can all
use a little education on thelatest tools.
So we're ready.
Yeah, cool.

Keryn McMaster (01:06):
I mean that's our goal with Connect Wind is to
make you know, go ahead, justtell me a brief, just introduce
yourself.

You know who you are, how you got into this, yeah
, so I'm Karen.

I've been sailing all my life my family's
third-generation sailmakers downin New Zealand.
My grandfather started it offand I didn't have a choice.
I pretty much brought up onboats racing with mum and dad
every weekend and then got theopportunity to go offshore
sailing, ended up doing tworound-the-worlds one with what
was the whip red and then theocean race after that on female

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teams, which was amazing, and,yeah, and then I've been working
for predict one for over nineyears now and it's a new zealand
based company but we have, youknow, support staff all around
the world and it staff aroundthe world too.
So, yeah, it's an awesomecompany to be part of, really
proactive, really, um, yeah,trying to just always improve

(02:03):
the product.
We've got a great support team.
We only hire sailors.
So you know, I was one of thefirst in the company on support
we hire.
All my friends have also sailedaround the world.
So when you come in and talk tous, we're not, you know we know
what we're talking about, andwe've been out there on the
ocean and can actually help, andand we really listen as well.
I think we pride ourselves onthe fact that people come in and

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say, oh, what about doing this?
And we go back to our team and,yeah, that's a great idea,
let's add that.

So we're always trying to improve the product.
Well, I didn't know all of that, I mean before you guys reached
out.
I didn't know that PredictWinwas New Zealand and I love it, I
love it.
I didn't know that you were allsailors.
This is all great information.

Yeah, well, that's where a lot of the key
tools that we have have comefrom.
You know, like I took mydaughter offshore.
She's 17.
I took her on her firstoffshore passage three months
ago and helped my brotherdeliver his Beneteau 62 up to
Fiji from New Zealand.
So five-day passage prettyrolly, pretty rough, but we, you
know, knew that the weather wasgoing to be like that, we were

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prepared to take it on and and Iused all those tools every
single day, multiple times a day, to make sure.
You know, I'm not.
Yeah, I wanted to make surethat my daughter had a good
experience.
So it was key to understandingthe weather, routing the weather
, letting her know what wasgoing to be expected along the
way.
So, yeah, we're actually outthere using it in anger, which

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is very cool.

So when you say five days, is that New Zealand
to Australia, to?

Fiji.
So it's about 1,000 nauticalmiles, but a 62-foot Beneteau
can truck along pretty nicelyand it was beam the whole way,
25 plus knots.
We had a you know, a couple oflittle knockdowns but we've done
a lot of miles in that boat andand we knew from you know I can
talk about all this but theweather routing.
We've got all these um modelingparameters now so we can model

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your boat hydrodynamically andthen tell you what roll and
vertical acceleration andslamming you're going to see, so
that I knew that it was goingto be a really rolly trip.
And you know roll can be quitedangerous as, as we know, to
move around the boat and andthings.
So you know we could preparethe boat.
The coffee machine took a tumble, that was a disaster.

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But, um, you know, we just youcan plan all these things and if
you, you know the verticalacceleration is a real good
indicator of if someone's goingto get seasick, you know the
boat going up and down, if youknow that and you can see that
in our system, you can give thepeople seasickness tablets or
decide it's not the right timeto go.
So, yeah, all of that stuff wedon't just, you know, put it out

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there and then leave it.
We're actually using itourselves and coming back with
great feedback that this didn'twork properly or we could
improve this.
So, yeah, it is a great companyto work for, and even if I
didn't work for Predictland, Iwould use it.
My plan is to buy my own boatand go off sailing around the
world at some stage, andPredictland's what I'll use for

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sure.

Well, you could probably just work from the boat
while you're sailing around Idid that.

You know, starlink's made a massive
difference to how we can allwork and travel and it's awesome
.
It's amazing I was doing um, Iwas zooming into a conference
call with the ocean race fromthe middle of the pacific, so
it's pretty cool.

That's awesome.
Okay, so where?
Where would you like to start?

um, well, we were just talking offline before
we started this um podcastabout you know your trip, that
you've got coming up, and somaybe that's a good place to
start and we can look and dosome planning and and see what's
going to happen and use thetools.
You know I haven't actually runthat route so I don't know what
I'm going to find but but let'sdo it.

Yeah, it's next week, so do you want me to go
ahead and pull that up?
Yeah, for sure, okay, so herewe are.
Let's see if I can get it anybigger.
Okay, okay, all right.
So where do we go from here?

So this is like the essence of PredictWind is
the forecast maps and everythingthat you see here.
So this is, you're looking atthe PredictWind website, but you
can also use PredictWind onyour phone, on a tablet, on a PC
or a Mac, and so PredictWind isis location-based service, so
other services will just showyou the whole map of the world

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and you have to sort of pushbuttons to get in there.
The way we do it, we select alocation, and the reason we do
that is so that you can getreally detailed information for
that position specifically, andthen from that you can build
into weather routing and allsorts of other things.
So, um, we, you set up a, uh, alocation in purd.
Is it purita pass, purito pass,purito pass.

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Yeah, yeah, okay, cool.
So then down the left hand side,there's all these different
ways you can look at the weatherinformation.
So click on daily briefing fromthe top of the list.
So if you've got kids that aresailing every day or you know
you're not very good at readingthe weather, we break it down
into its simplest form.
So we've looked at all theweather for you and we're going
to tell you what it's going tobe.
The basic forecast for morning,afternoon, evening, and so here

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you can see six to nine knots,the temperature, possible chance
of showers, calm seas, and thatgoes out for like seven to ten
days.
So if you just wanted to jumpin here really quickly, daily
briefing is awesome and it's notjust an average forecast.
We're looking so Predictmenthas six global models, and the

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reason we do that is because ifyou just look at one forecast,
you know it could be completelywrong.
But if you've got six, it's likehaving six meteorologists
sitting around the table andthey all have a little bit of a
different idea of what theforecast is going to be.
But if you get six of themtogether, you know there will be
a consensus.
Four of them will be like ohyeah, I think it's going to blow

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from the southwest, 15 knots.
And that's what you're lookingfor those consensus, so that you
can have confidence in theforecast.
For those consensus, so thatyou can have confidence in the
forecast.
When we do the Brains dailybriefing, we look at all of
those forecasts, we take out anyoutliers that might be extreme
and then we average it out.
So it's a pretty good startingpoint.
Then you could go down.
The next one down is the tables.

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Click on the table and rememberthis is all for your location
there, but you can have multiplelocations.
I'm a real tables person, so Ilike to look at the table and
then you can really dig intowhat the forecast is saying.
So the first line you're lookingat here is the wind speed.
You can see those blocks ofblue and you know there's six

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different lines, there are thesix different forecast models.
So that's what I was saying,the you know the having a
different meteorologist sittingaround the table.
Each one of them has a littlebit of a different idea, but
here you can see that they'reall in consensus, it's all you
know.
They're all saying sort ofeight knots.
That gfs is a little bit of anoutlier with 12 knots, but in
general I'd say you know, forthe whole morning it's going to

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be sort of six, seven, eightknots.
And then you can do the samewith the wind direction.
Like it's compressed there atthe moment.
It says southwest, but seewhere it says direction and
there's a little drop down arrowjust below where your marker is
.
Just go down a little bit, keepgoing down to the next their
direction and expand that.
So click on that.

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Yep, and so now you've got yoursix people all sit around the
table telling you what directionthey think it's going to be and
if everyone's and consensus,it's going to be Southwest,
south Southwest, seven to tenknots, that's a really good
indication that that's what theforecast is is actually going to
be.
And you can scroll down thetable.

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There's all sorts of differentparameters.
There's rain, cloud, cape,which is an indication of
thunderstorms.
If you had cape and rain andlightning, you'd be like there's
a serious, some nasty, extremeweather coming through.
So, and you know, bear in mind,this is all just for that
location.
You might then be going down tothe Bahamas.

You want to check what it's going to be like there
.
Add another location there andyou can jump between.

This is what I'd be looking at right here, the
wave light, yeah, and so that'sjust for your spot that you've
got there right, just out on thepath.
So if you want to do weatherrouting because you've got a
passage coming up, then that's awhole other ball game again.
So this is just the locationstuff.
Um, if you scroll down from themain menu, down there, the very
left hand side, you can seewe've got different ways of

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viewing everything.
So go to maps from there, justat the top there.
Yep, now you can look at thatsame location.
But you can see the forecastmaps for the next 10 days and
you can look at the differentparameters.
Because you've got thatforecast box.
You opened it.
It was just closed again.
So you're looking at the ECMWFforecast at 8km resolution.

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That's a really high resolutionforecast.
You get good detail, goodaccuracy.
Ecmwf is great.
Now you've scrolled out to the50k so you get a bigger area,
but not so high resolution.
So you always want to belooking at the highest
resolution forecast if you can,because that's going to give you
the most detail.
Yeah, um, and then, yeah, youcan just keep.

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There's so many tools.
I mean, I could talk for hours,so you need to.
What do you want to?

know.
All right, well, let's go towaves.
Yep, that's what we're all.
We're all worried about.
That we don't want to get, andthat is very mild and it's
pretty much all Pretty benign.

Yeah, so this is the time for me to go, yeah you
got into the measuring toolthere but yeah so if you do now,
you'll go out to the 50k waveand you know you can see out.
On the east coast of the statesthere's um, you know.
For example, look at that bigstorm out of um, you know, to
the east of the uh, the mutathere.

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This is our gfdss forecasting,and so you know the world is
broken up into areas of theworld that meteorologists report
on every day, but it's just amassive line of text and so you
can click on any of those andget information from the GMDSS
forecast.
So click on the storm high seasarea and it will tell you what

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actually is in that.
So if you scroll down, click onthat box where it says storm
high seas, this one, yep, andthen you're getting the
information there about what thestorm is, what direction it's
moving, any other notice tomariners, information that you
would need that's important foryour area.
So that's called our GMDSSgraphical forecast.

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We've taken the, the word, thewritten forecast and put it into
a graphical form so that youcan see it on the map and you
can see which way it's travelingtowards you.
So if you exit out of that boxand zoom out a little bit, you
know you can see all sorts ofdifferent things.
You can see ridges,thunderstorm areas, low
pressures, cyclones, hurricanes.

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You know it's pretty importantin your area of the world
absolutely, so we got a lowright here.

Yeah, I haven't.
I haven't looked at all lately,so I'm waiting to the last
minute um the other I actuallylooked at passageweathercom.
Of course this is much better,thank you yeah.

So if you keep going down that main menu list,
we're still on all the locationbased stuff.
But the GMDZ validation go downto observations is the next
sort of big area.
Click on observations on thatlist and then what I really like
to do wind observations.
Click on that.
It's on the top, a little bityep, and for your area there'll

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be some wind observationspopping up around the place.
So these are all ones thatwe've sourced and the reason
that I like this is because youcan actually look at what is
actually happening now based onthe observation, and go back and
check the forecast.
And if the observation, whichis the now time you know what's
happening now, and the forecastis what's actually you know it's

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predicted to happen, if theymatch, then that gives you a
really good indication that theforecast is doing a good job
because it's matching what'sactually happening now and so
then you can base more weight onthat forecast model that's got
it spot on for the next sort of12 hours.
So that's quite often how Ipeople always say oh, which four
?
You know you've got six models,which one do I trust.

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Well, none of them are perfectall of the time.
There's no golden rule, like inyour area area, you should
trust ECMWF.
But if you're on the boat oryou've got these observations,
you can look out and sayactually it's blowing 15 knots
from the south now and theforecast says it should be
blowing 15 knots from the south.
So that gives me confidence inthe forecast for the next 12

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hours, because what's happeningnow is right, and so then I
might put a little bit moreweight or trust in that forecast
for the next 12 hours and itmight say it's going to build to
30 knots.
Well, that's giving me anindication that I need to be
careful and prepare so that'ssort of how I validate what you
know forecast to use.

(15:21):
Okay, yeah, lots of information,well.

I kind of liken it to when there's a hurricane
there's always all these thespaghetti models from all the
different models from around theworld.
So you're taking informationfrom many sources, that's good.
Exactly yeah.

Yeah.
So then you know, for going ona passage, you want to head over
towards the Bahamas.
You want to start doing someweather routing.
So we offer departure planningand weather routing.
People often ask why do youhave both?
Well, what you want to do,departure planning can break
down the weather over a block offour days and it will look at

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it for each of the four days.
You'll say I want to go from,you know, from your port, to the
Bahamas.
Give me a four day window tolook at, and then I can look at
that and say, okay, day one isgoing to be mostly on the wind,
but by day three it's going tobe mostly 15 knots and downwind.
So day three is the day thatI'm going to choose to go.
And so that's what you usedeparture planning for to figure
out approximately what day.

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Once you know that, then youswitch over to weather routing
and you put in all the detailsfor the day that you want to
leave, and then it will give youa really detailed forecast of
you know what you're going tosee along the way that roll and
vertical acceleration andslamming.
I was talking about all the wavedata.
We've actually got even sailcrossover charts in there.

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Now, if you load up your sail,you know, like at 25 knots I'll
put in two reefs and a storm jibor whatever.
You can put that into oursystem and it will alert you.
Hey, at 3 o'clock in themorning you're going to need to
change sails because I'm seeing30 knots come through.
Well, you could do that beforeit gets dark.
So we're putting all of thesesafety systems in place not to

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tell you this is what you haveto do, but it's just warning you
that the router is seeing this.
It's expecting the wind tobuild.
Your sail crossover chart saysat this point you would change
sails.
So here's an indication ofwhat's going to happen.
Tell your crew early and let'slet's put three reefs in the
main at six o'clock at night andhave some dinner early and make

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sure everything's strapped downbecause we know at 11 o'clock
at night you know it's going tohit the fan right, okay, it's
going to hit the fan, right okayI've been there okay, this is
perfect right here for me to godown the west coast of florida.
So yeah, um.
So if you want to do a witherout, I don't know whether you

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want me to switch to my um, myscreen, yeah, sure, sure I can?

I could take mine off and um.
Do you want?
To go ahead and put yours upthere.
I'll wait for you to, and we'vegot some people watching.
If anybody has any questions,um, and apparently they're
available for questions a lot,and how is that?
Just email or chat through thesupport, or how does that work?

yeah, through um .
So our support, team support atpredictwincom and I said we've
got a big team there, allsailors.
We've also got like an AI botthat you might come into first
Now.
That answers a lot of the verybasic questions really well.
But always just say talk to aperson.
If you don't get the answer youwant, just write and type talk

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to a person and it will getstraight through to us and we,
okay, we answer every questionso you can always get to us.
So can you see my screen there?
I can, okay, cool, so what I'vedone here is I um, we talked
earlier about sort of whereyou're planning on going and the
biggest thing to do is it's allvery well to put in a start and
finish point, but if we don'tknow your boat, you could be on

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my brother's 62 foot beneteauand it'll take you, you know, a
few days to get here.
Or you could be on your 35, forit it will take you, I don't
know 10 days.
So you need to know, you needto tell our system what your
boat is, and that's called boatpolars, and so in here.
So I'm in the main menu, I'm insail routing and I'm going to
routing preferences and what Iwant to do is set up the system.

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I can set it up for the fastesttime or comfort.
I could, you know, avoiddifferent amounts of roll or um
things, but we'll keep it onfastest for now and we've got
all these predefined boats thatyou can choose.
So I'm 32, 32.
So let's go for it.
We'll go for a 30-foot sailboat.
But I did have a look at thelist.

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There is no island packet inhere.
But if we don't have your boatin the list, you can either get
the polars from the designer andgive them to us and we'll add
it to the list, or you canchoose something similar to your
boat from the list, or we'vegot these generic ones in here.
So we'll just put in a 30 footboat for now.

Okay, it's really 33, but that's fine.

Better be safe, right yeah, yeah, exactly, um,
and it will generate this polarcurve.
And so this is.
You know the graphical way oflooking at your polars and this
can be edited.
You can make advanced polarsand things like that.
You can tell the system you'regoing to motor if the wind gets
too slow.
You can tell the system.
You know you might have a?
Um, a beneteau 50, but that'snot in the list and there's only

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a beneteau 45.
Well, you know you'll sail alittle bit faster than that, so
you can change your polar speedup or down to adjust to it.
But anyway, this is the mostimportant thing that you need to
tell our system, um, and thenyou know we're talking about the
wave polar.
It's really important that youput in the um, the displacement
and the length and the beam, soonce that's all in there, then

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our system can calculate thatrole and vertical acceleration.
Um, we've also got depthavoidance, so we've got um.
We've also got depth avoidance,so we've got depth contours
built into the system.
So if you say to avoid twometers of depth, that's what it
will do.
It will take you aroundeverywhere.
But I know that the Bahamas ispretty shallow in places, so I

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would probably do land, so itwill avoid land but it may take
you over some shallow spots.
You have to adjust the Fornavigation.
You've got to adjust your checkit out properly.
This isn't a navigation systemas such.
Tidal and ocean currents theGulf Stream is massive on the
east coast of the States.

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I've sailed across it and beenin it many times, so that's huge
.
So you want that in yourrouting as well, so that it's
all taken into account.
So all these things you justset up once and this is what I
was saying the sail crossoversyou can go in here.
You can either import We've gotagain a list of all the
different boats or you can buildyour own.
So I've got a Beneteau First47.7 in here at the moment.

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Once you've done all that, thenyou can just simply move your
star and finish waypoints towherever and then you click on
calculate up here and it does itall for you.
So the old school way of doingit was that you had to download
all the grid files to yourcomputer and so you'd have to go
in, choose which ones youwanted, choose what resolution,

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choose what size.
We're trying to make it simple,especially when you're at sea
and you're rolling around,single-handing too, exactly so
you want to, um, you know justit's.
We give you all the tools.
You set it up, push, go andthen you get all the results for
you to look at.
Now these results aren't aroadmap, like.
We're not saying you must gothis way.

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You still have to go in andreview it, all based on you know
what you know of your boat,your crew, your ability.
But all the information isthere.
So I run this route and I'vetold it, um, just to avoid land,
so it may have gone throughsome shallow areas and we can
change that, we can make it gofurther down around the keys if
need be.
But so we've got, you know,these six tracks, which are the

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six different forecast models.
We've got your sixmeteorologists sitting around
the table saying, well, I thinkyou should go this way, well, I
think you should go that way.
But again, we're looking forthe consensus and all of them
are saying pretty much straightdown and around, like the
forecasts are all agreeing,because all of the lines they're
all sort of in agreement ofwhat you should do, and what I

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like to do is go into the tableshere should do and what I like
to do is go into the tables here, so that's the route, with the
map overlaid on it, just so thatyou can see the visual.
You know visual map.
But the tables data is goldenbecause, instead of doing it on
the old school way on yourcomputer, we've told the predict
one server to look at all yourinformation and all our weather

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forecast at the highestresolution, with the the most.
You know, the best tides andthe best wind and everything, to
generate this routing packagefor you for this particular time
, and so you can go in here.
If you're a graph person, youcan look at it in graphical view
and you can see that the windfor the whole passage is really

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sort of only 10 knots, maybebuilding a little bit at the end
.
So something to be aware of.
But you know, in four days timethat forecast possibly has
changed and you're updating yourforecast every 12 hours, so you
should go today.
Yeah, um, and direction andtrue wind angles.
So there's, bear with me,there's lots of data in here.

What I want to go down to is that, as far as it
goes, september 29th well,that's right now.

So yeah, so it's predicting that, based on your
30 foot sailboat, with theforecast, if you left right now,
it would take you, you know,five days, and that's where
you'd be at the end of the routeso this is based around the
route that's the forecast, likein the bahamas, or something
that very exactly at the end yep, and so here we've got.

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This is the roll.
You know that.
You know we say anything morethan four degrees of roll is
difficult to move around theboat.
Well, there's very little rollfor the first part, which makes
sense because we looked at thatwave forecast before and there
was nothing, until you get outthe other side and then it
skyrockets, so that you knowyou're going to tell your crew
by the end of the passage.
It's going to get pretty rollyat the end, but not for too long

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.
It's just the end of thepassage and again the vertical
acceleration, so no one's goingto be seasick for the first
three days.

You've got someone here saying they love.
You've got someone on thescreen here.
I love PW, it's fantastic.

Yeah, great, great to hear, yeah, and again
the slamming.
So all of these forecasts areall lining up to say, well, the
first, you know, the first threequarters of the route is going
to be great, but when you getout here it's going to get a bit
nasty.
And so the reason you want toknow that, prepare your, prepare
your crew and um, and know thatit's only going to be for a

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short time and yeah, and so thenthe other thing I like in the
tables when you're planningroutes if you go to the summary
you can see here this is againyour six meteorologists all
sitting around the table withtheir opinions, but they're all
saying that it's, you know,going to take us about four,
four and a half days, four daysand the maximum wind speed we're

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going to see here and the timeup wind like we're not going to
spend much time up wind mostlyreaching and a little bit of
downwind.
So that's, you know, justwithout really digging into it,
that's looking pretty good andmost of the time in between 8
and 20 knots you know none ofthis up in the 30 40 knot range.
So that again, there's stuff tolook at, to know.

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Okay, this is going to be apretty good passage for the time
that we're going with the boatthat we've got and the
conditions that we've got fornow and you can look at all
sorts of you know you can lookat dig into the wave the primary
, the secondary, the tertiary.
We know that you can get thosereally mixed waves if you've got
a system out to the east that'sdoing that ground swell but

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then you've got a wind swell orchop on top of it, it can become
really messy.
That might be why you want todig into the different primary,
secondary, tertiary swells.
The current's a big one forthat um, you know the gold
stream.
So towards the end you'll seeif we go back to the map and
let's look at that current.
So I'm back on the map here I'mgoing to go down to my forecast

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options and I want to look atthe currents and I want to look
at the murkay tour and here yougo, so you're cooking into the
Merkei Tor and here you go, soyou're hooking into the Gulf
Stream that cruises up here, andso you know that as you come
around the corner here, this is,you know where do you cross the
Gulf Stream and at what time,and you know you're crossing it

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quite hard here and that's wherethat vertical acceleration and
slamming and roll all came in isright around here.
So again, just another way tosee that you know you need to
prepare the boat and the crew.
So, um, yeah or wait, I'll bewaiting at key baskeen waiting
for that right yeah exactly.

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And so what?
You know, every 12 hours offorecast updates as your boat
moves down the track, you'd belike, okay, well, now I'm here
and I'm going to run that routeagain and it'll change.
The forecast change as itstands out.
You know, any forecast is onlyrealistically good four to five
days out.
Then it becomes a little bitiffy.
So you'll quite often see thatthe first two or three days of

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the routing aligns and thenthose routes will sort of spread
out as the different forecastsbecome less accurate and do
crazy things.
So one thing we would yeah, isthere anything else you want to
talk about with the routingthere that you see, or we have a
comment far better to go to thequays than stage the crossing
from there.

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So yeah, so I don't know thisand what you could do, like if
you knew that you could put in awaypoint and say like so I'm in
the waypoints box here now andI can put in a, an intermediate
waypoint which has just droppedthis little dot here in the
middle, and I can pull that down.
I say okay, well, we're going togo out to the keys here and
then, and then we're going to goacross, and I can even make

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that a a port waypoint.
I can round it to port so thatyou know that you know you're
going to come around the bottomof it instead of trying to go
exactly to it.
You can also put in a boundary,like you could say okay, I want
to create a boundary around thekeys and so I'm going to put a
little area in here.

We're going to go through.
I want to avoid that.

Okay, and here we're going to go through.
I want to avoid that, okay, sothat's just an example.
And if you put in that boundary, get out of the exit boundary
box.
Um, yeah, if you put in thatboundary, then the router will
respect that boundary and itwill take you around it.
So if you knew that there wasan area that you really wanted
to avoid, you could put in thatboundary, which is pretty cool
and you can see how easy it isto to put turn in, and then I
can just edit it.
Yeah, I can remove it wheneverI want so um yeah, okay, so, um,

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okay.

So let's see what's said.
Yeah, come to the keys and thencross safely during the best
weather window.
That's definitely what I'll bedoing.
I'll be going up to KeyViscayne.
I'm going to drop down fromMarco down through Marathon, you
know, under the Seven MileBridge, and then make my way up.
Before we go on to the nextthing, I want to make one

(30:20):
announcement.
This has to do with I'm goingto be releasing some T-shirts.
I'm going to be releasing somet-shirts.
I'm going to be opening my ownlittle store and right now I've
got I've got my shirt on.
Let me take that off.
This is a SPF shirt.
Let me see, it's got sailorright there.

(30:42):
Look at that.
And it's got the salty podcastlogo and I'm going to show you
some pictures.
Um, and I'm going to be openingmy shopify, and so this is just
some pictures of the model on mynew store and they're sharp and
they come in gray and they doum, they, they come in women's

(31:04):
also and I and this the whitehas has the red sailor on it.
And the reason I'm and I getregular t-shirts Bell Canva and
the reason I decided to dopodcast t-shirts is everybody's
got t-shirts for their own boat,but I figured people might want
to buy a shirt, you know, withthe podcast on it and you know,

(31:27):
kind of helps me offset theexpenses.
I do operate in the red on thepodcast.
I'm just now getting tomonetization, so I thought I'd
kind of offset some of myexpenses with some really cool
t-shirts SPF shirts too.
So with that, thank you foryour patience.
That's coming soon and hopeeverybody will be excited about
it.
So, on that, thank you for yourpatience.

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That's coming soon and I hopeeverybody will be excited about
it.
So on to you want to talk abouttracking?

Yeah.
Tracking is awesome Sorry, youknow.

Let me just say I saw sailing with Phoenix and I
haven't been sailing on my boatsince a in a, since 2000,.
Late 2023, I haven't taken along trip, so I didn't know that
you could track on, predictwhen maybe you could do it
before then.
I didn't know.
I use an in-reach explorer.
Um, oh so okay, the t-shirtslook great.

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I wanted to get that out there.
Um, so, tell us how that's done.
I saw sailing with phoenix.
He, he gave everybody the, thelink and and I just really liked
it and I'd like no more to knowmore about that yeah, so
tracking is a massive part ofwhat we do.

It's a real big safety feature and it's nice to
be able to share your story andum and put it into your, your
blogs or whatever you're doing.
So what we do if you tell usyour boat name, we will create a
tracking page for you.
Specifically, you know a urlspecific to your boat and then
you also tell us how we cantrack your boat so we can track
your boat with multiple devicesand inreach, solio, iridium, go

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um.
You can do it manually or we'vegot a product that we sell
called the data hub, which isawesome, and the data hub
connects into your n2k network,your nmea network, on your boat.
You plug it in and then we canget the position from your chart
plotter and it can get sent topredict wind and we can update

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your tracking page that way.
The cool thing about the datahub is, when you have it
connected into your n2k network,we can also show the wind speed
and direction.
So I'm going to share a screenwith you.
This is my brother, so this iswhat we did when we went to Fiji
, so just bear with me.
Entire screen, take your time.

We're sailors, we move slow.

Sorry, can you see that?

Yes, okay, okay.

So this is my brother's boat and he doesn't
mind me sharing this witheveryone, so he's in Fiji at the
moment, and so this is the URLthat we created for him.
So we do this in the back endof our system.

Let me take off my overlay so we can see that.

Oh yeah okay, so up in the top, basically, we'll
create you a url you can sharewith your family and friends
yeah, got it.

Yes, I salty abandon.
That's what it is, yeah sowe'll.

We'll set you up after and we can track you to
start with your Garmin Enriched,but we'll get you a data hub
and you can plug that in as well.
So, yeah, what I was saying is,so you can set it to track
hourly, you send the positionreports back to us and then we
update it on this page.
And so this is my brother'sboat.
We can see speed.

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I think he's just driftingaround the bay at the moment,
but the cool thing here is thatI can also see his true
direction and true wind speedand so on passage.
This was really good to see.
My mum follows us all the time.
One of the guys I work with,nick.
He saw that you know up abouthere.
We um, we had been doing nineknots the whole way and all of a

(35:05):
sudden we were only doing fourand he actually messaged me on
the boat and said, are you allright?
and I'm like, yeah, we just hada big knock, knock down.
You know, we're just cleaningeverything up, including the
coffee machine and things and wecan blog about it here.
So I actually, you know, saidit said here that the coffee
machine so if somebody'stracking you, they can click on
it.

Go no worries we're just cleaning up the
coffee.

Yeah, and we've had cases where people have you
know someone's contacted usbecause everything else has gone
down, but the tracking wasstill working and they knew that
the boat was okay because itwas still moving, but they had
no other communications with theboat or it was going backwards
and around in circles.
You know we've had a couple ofthose incidences where people
have contacted us.

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We've checked the tracking pageand know that it's accurate.
There's actually somethingwrong on the boat.
They've sent the coast guardout and there has been a problem
.
So, yeah, the cool thing aboutthe data hub is that you can get
all this information in thereas well and it's really accurate
tracking.
And you know, with Starlinkthese days, it's great.
And if you connect the data hubto the Starlink, even if you're

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turning the Starlink off atnight because of power
consumption or you're trying tomonitor your usage, the data hub
will store those positionsoffline.
The next time you come onlineit will just upload them all.
So it keeps track of everythingthat's going on.
One thing I wanted to show youwhich is quite impressive.
This is predict wind and I'm inthe ais data page from the main

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website.
But all these little white dots, these are all predictable
boats that we're tracking.
So it's massive.
Tracking is what we do and it'sreally cool.
At the moment, you know,everyone's starting to come home
from fiji or is on, you know,almost home, all these boats
around the top of new zealand.
Um, the other thing I'd say Iis um.

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Ais is a big part of predictwind, which is what I'm in at
the moment.
These are all you know.
These are fishing fleets andwhen we were sailing from new
zealand up to fiji, knowing thatthere is fishing fleets coming
up that you've got to beprepared for is massive because,
as you know, ais is only asgood as the vhf range.
It's like 15 nautical miles.
But if you can see this um andyou can also download it into

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the weather routing, you willknow that look at 2 o'clock in
the morning, we're going to comeacross a fishing fleet.

That happened to me before.

Yeah, let's crack off 10 degrees now, so
that we just don't have thatdrama in the middle of the night
.
And you know, yeah, we'll go alittle bit further.
But to save the drama and youknow, sometimes these fishing
fleets, especially around here Idon't know about america they
turn off all their lights andthe ais.

Sometimes it gets a bit scary, you know so, just
all that, you know, when they'rein bunches like that, it's,
it's, it's too, it's too big togo around, and so I had to go
through and they didn't like itmuch, but I went right through
it, yeah, and you know it's coolto see all these um, oh, wow,
the shipping lanes as well.

You know I love I can spend quite a bit of time
in here just seeing what, whatshipping lanes.
But you know, so this isimportant for you to know
because through here you'reactually going to come into a
big shipping lane as well.
So at that time of night youknow you're going to need are
you doing it on your own?
You need to be really careful,do?

you.
I'll be doing that during theday.

Yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah.
So I mean, tracking's fantastic.
I highly recommend the DataHubfor that reason alone, but it's
got some other cool features aswell.
You know, we can this againback to the AIS, if you have.
I'll just stop sharing myscreen.
Probably we can just talk aboutit.
If you have the DataHub andyou've got it connected to your

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Starlink, you can set it up sothat you can download what we
call over-the-horizon AIS andyou can see all of those AIS
targets out to 300 nauticalmiles and you can get that onto
your chart plotter through thedata hub so that you're going up
on deck, you're checking notonly the boats that are around
you but, again, the ones in thefuture.
So, yeah, it's all about safetyfor us and trying to do the

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best we can for all our boatsBoats out there which you can
see there's thousands of themusing us.
So what you just showed me?
The red boats.
What's the difference betweenthe red boats and the little
other ones?
Like with AIS, there'sdifferent classifications.
There'll beifications, there'llbe container ships okay,
fishing boats, there'll bepleasure craft, and you can

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click on each one of them andyeah, I have ais, so yeah, yeah
same, exactly the same, but youcan get it onto your chart,
plotter out into the distanceand yeah yeah, and it's nice
that they can see you, but notand more and more, wouldn't you
say, more and more, evencruising so many people.

I mean, I don't, I don't know how it used to be,
but, um, so many people have itnow.
Yeah, oh, it's so important tohave the cruising, of course the
commercial boats, but also thecruising vessels also.

So it's just more and more common that, okay,
cool.

So yeah, I've got a.
No, I didn't hear all, I didn'tunderstand all the steps, but
chat GPT should help me throughdoing all that stuff you said,
so I'm excited.

Our support team can help you with that.
We just I just came off awebinar.
Actually, every year we knowthis time of year people are
preparing to go across theAtlantic, so we just did an
Atlantic crossing series wherewe go into depth about how to
use the weather, routing,departure planning, our models.
So if you come in to supportand ask for a recording of those
webinars, we can send those outto anybody that wants them.

You just did a webinar today, this morning?
Yeah, yeah, is that the onethat was?
Was that the?

atlantic.
Yeah, so that was part two.
So part one we did last week,which was more about our weather
models and the routing.
This one was more about thedata hub, which I've just been
talking about tracking using aplatform that we had called the
Offshore app, which does verysimilar things to what I've been
showing you.
But what we're finding withStarlink is it's fantastic, but

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if it goes down you're in thedark.
So if you have an Iridium systemor something like that that you
can still download weather on,then you can switch from one to
the other and you know, forcrossing the atlantic that's so
important.
You could be day five and havecompletely wiped out your
styling.
What are you going to do forthe next?
Um, you know, 20 days.
You can switch to the iridiumgo.

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You can use our offshore app,which is designed to compress
all the files and send it to you.
It's slow as heck, but you knowyou will get the files.
Um, and so I think that wholeredundancy thing is really
important.
Um, Starlink don't get me wrongis amazing.
I use it, I'll have it on myboat 100, but I will also have

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something like an iridium that Ican use to download weather if
it turns to custard.

Well, I've got WeatherXM and I've got the
InReach and I've got Starlink,and I was debating whether I
should.
You know, I always pause allthose services until I need them
.
And I was debating whether Ishould get, because I do like
the WeatherXM.
It shows up on my chart plotter.
So what do you think aboutthose three redundancies?

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Well, you've got the phone,you've got the predict when and
you've got the inReach, you'vegot the chart plotter with the
WeatherXM, which seems like agood idea, and you've got the
Starlink.

Yeah, I think for what you're doing that's
fine, and you know, a lot of thetime you'll be in cell coverage
as well, so it just depends onhow far offshore you're going
and what you're doing.
The inReach is fine.
It's a great tracking device,but you can't download weather
using it, so you would have tohave someone on shore that you
message to say, hey, myStarlink's died.

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Can you tell me what theweather's going to be for the
next day or two?
And you need to know that youcan trust them, that they
understand all that, I thinkit's got some primitive weather
downloads, I think it's not.
It's very basic.
It's got the GFS, you know.
It's just one model.
It's very low resolution,there's not much to it.
So it's something.

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And in the old days, that's allwe had sailing around the world
with taxes.

So, and it wasn't that long ago, no, no, well, um,
so what have I?
What are we?
What am I not asking that youthink is important for you know?

people.
I think, um, yeah, I thinkunderstanding what we offer the
different models and why we'vegot them all and why it's
important not to just stick toone and the resolution of the
forecast you know like theresolution is big because you
can have look at a map that's100 kilometre resolution.
That means that for every 100kilometre square I'm giving you

(43:55):
one forecast for that whole areaand that can change based on
know what islands there are.
Are you in the lee shore of anisland or on you know what's
going on there.
But when you reduce theresolution down to 50k or 8k or
in a lot of areas, one kilometerresolution, all of a sudden you
get to see you know all ofthose, the funneling through

(44:16):
between islands and the leeshores and how wind moves around
islands and things.
That's so important tounderstand that and you can
actually get a differentforecast for the same area based
on resolution.
So most high resolutionforecasts only go out sort of 36
hours and then it extends out,it changes resolution.

(44:40):
But always be looking at thebest data you can find and
that's why in PredictWin we'vegot all these different models
at really high resolutions sothat you can make the best
decisions for your boat.
So I think that's prettyimportant to understand that and
to know how to change thoseresolutions and how to change
the models.
A lot of people, when theyfirst start using predict one,

(45:03):
don't understand any of that.
So when you're on the maps, youcan change between the
different forecast options.
We've got wind and cloud andgust and cape, and you shouldn't
even just be looking at wind,you should be looking at all of
them together.
Waves, looking between the maps, the mats yeah, waves is so
important.
It's more important than a windand a lot of times because you

(45:25):
could sail in 30 knots in flatwater, but 30 knots with four
meter seas it's a completelydifferent story.

so, yeah, yeah, if it's wind that's coming off the
land, there's a good chancethat the water's calm In a north
wind.
Here on the northern Gulf Coast.
The Gulf is flat and it's likeI call it, the crack high.
That's the perfect situation.
You know, you've got 20 knotsand you're just boogieing down
the beach, you know, on yourboat, yeah, no, I would highly

(45:55):
recommend you know, know,getting to use the routing tools
.

It's not something that you, you know.
Like any new program, it takesa little bit of time to learn it
and understand it.
So don't, don't leave it untilyou're throwing the lines off
the dock and then wondering whatyou're going to do.
It's pretty important, you know, and that's a, it's a massive
asset and it's the people on theboat are really valuable.
So you want to get it right, soyou've got to spend a bit of
time doing it and that's why oursupport team's there.

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We, we know, we've used it,done it, happy to help share our
experiences, and you even getlittle extra tidbits from you
know, smiley, one of the guys.
He's he's a salty old sea dogand he'll talk to you on the
phone and then he'd also tellyou that every you know, if you
got spinnaker up every 12 hoursyou have have to rock the
halyard so that there's nochafing and things like that.

So you get all these extra little bits and
pieces?
Did they ever say, are youcrazy?

Yeah, why did you leave the dog?
I'd love to say that sometimes.

You can say it to me.
Okay, feel free.
So what can we talk about?
Cost?

What's the cost for the subscription?
Um, yeah, so there's threedifferent levels of subscription
.
Um, so the basic is, you know,if you're just cruising around
the coast um basic levels us 29for the year and that gives you
I think I think we're up to 16locations and all sorts of you
know save locations, like whatwe were doing, looking at all
the forecast stuff for that.
And then if you want to go up toweather routing, departure
planning, having all those extrabits and pieces standard or

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professional level.
So standard is $249 US for theyear and that gives you the
options to weather routing andtracking and all of that.
Any weather route you run willinclude ocean data in it and the
highest resolution forecaststhat we can find all done on our
server.
It's cloud-based, but if youwant to see and really dig into

(47:48):
that wave data, the roll, thevertical acceleration, the
slamming, you need to have thatprofessional level and I like.
So that's 499 us for the yearand I think it's money well
spent because you only have tohave a couple of situations
where you get into some bad seasand all your family's hating
you because you've taken themout of it.
Um, yeah, you're not going toget them back on the boat

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because that professional levelis, um, it's pretty important so
.

So, hayden, somebody's watching and been
commenting.
Which plan do you have?
If anybody's watching, just goahead, and we do have some
people watching.
I'd like to hear what peopleare using, especially Hayden, sb
Island Spirit, because he'sfelt ready to go back to the.

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I can't remember if it's StMartin.
Your boat is St Martin or,sorry, hayden, I don't remember.

But they spend six months in the Caribbean, so
I'd be interested to hear whathe gets.
And you can drop up and downbetween levels if you want to,
but you know, if you're alwaystrying to look at passage
planning or you're planning yournext adventure, you know you
just keep it going.
Yeah, it's definitely worth it.

He has the mid-level plan.
He's been using it for 10 years.

Yeah, and you know that standard level is a
great mid-plan and, like I said,all the routing, the ocean
currents included in it.
But you know, for crossing theGulf Stream, I think it's pretty
important to be able to seethat information, see those
ocean currents figure out whereyou're going to cross, where you
might see wind against tide.
That's going to be prettychoppy, all that extra stuff.

Well, the rule of thumb with that is there's no,
absolutely no type of north wind.
Do we cross the gulf streamfrom miami?
Yeah, that's a no-no, certainway we wait and keep this game.
What a great place to waitright.
Have you?

you've been there, obviously have you um,
I've I've sailed out of florida,miami but, and yeah, been in
the gulf stream a few times.
You know we sailed up the coast, sailing around the world and
stuff yeah, so we have a fewminutes left.

I'd like to hear about that.
I want to hear about a littlebit about your sailing um, oh.

So I've just come back from the uk.
I just did the fast net race ona 42 footer, which I don't know
what.
I was thinking that was a badidea.
But yeah, there was theAdmiral's Cup and the Fastnet in
Cowes just not that long ago,so I raced on that, which was
pretty cool.
The Fastnet was three and ahalf days sitting on the rail

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pretty much the whole time, andit was drier outside the boat
than inside because it was alittle.
It was a gp42 which was prettylow freeboard and lots of waves
coming over the whole time, sothat was fun.
Yeah, but I started off.
I got the opportunity to fly toSweden in 1998 in trial for the

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women's around the world race,which was the last whip read
around the world, and so we didthat.
So nine months, um, ninedifferent leagues.

Tell me about that race.
What are the?
Is it a retro race?
What is it a solo?
What is it?

it's so.
It's fully crewed and at thetime it was in the whip read 60,
so 60 foot racing yachts, um,and it's still going.
You know there is anotheriteration of the race planned in
two years time.
It's still going.
You know, there is anotheriteration of the race plan just
for in two years time.
It's now called the ocean race,but it went from the whip red
to the volvo ocean race, now theocean race.
So when I did the first one itwas still the whip red, started

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in england, sailed to cape townand then it was broken down into
legs.
So we went cape town,freemantle, auckland, brazil,
miami, uh, and then across, backacross so these are just
checkpoints.
It's non-stop yeah no it wasn't,so you'd stop in each port so

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you'd trace.
The longest time at sea was 34days, which was from the uk to
cape town.
We only planned on 28 days butwe got stuck in the doldrums.
So yeah, that was not that muchfun and ran out of food and
things.

Oh no.

And then in each port you'd stop for a couple of
weeks, pull the boat out, checkeverything and then get ready
to go into the Southern Ocean.

That's the way to go is to be able to stop for a
couple of weeks.

It was pretty nice.
Yeah, some of the bondi globewhere they go around non-stop.
They're super impressive, youknow, single-handed non-stop.
But um, yeah, this was prettyhard, the golden globe race.

Yep, the single-handed no bigger than 36
or 38 feet, yeah I've had acouple of those folks on, uh,
the one, the girl that won, andanother one that's going to be
in it in 2026.

yeah.

Kirsten, oh my gosh, amazing, so tough, you
know, and I'm talking aboutbeing, how long were you in the
Southern Ocean?

uh, so at any.
So the legs were, you know,from Cape Town to Sydney.
So I think it was like two anda half, three weeks and we dived
down pretty deep.
They had ice gates so weweren't allowed to go so far
south, depending on where theicebergs were.
But you are dodging growlers,the iceberg chunks that come off
, and so quite often you'd be onwatch and then within that

(53:17):
watch you'd have people standingup at the shrouds on growler
watch if you knew that you weregoing through a bit of an ice
field and, yeah, it's snowing ondeck and it was pretty
miserable.
I sent messages to my mumsaying, if I ever do this again,
show me this fax at the timetelling me not to do it.
And then I said I was going todo it a second time and she

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brought the faxes out sayinglook, you promised me you'd
never do this again.

Oh, it wasn't that bad, I'll be fine.
Oh, it's like I guess it mightbe like having a baby, it wasn't
that?
Bad yeah well, the last umgentleman that I interviewed,
that he spent four and a halfmonths in the southern ocean and
and as he was coming out of it,you know, as he was leaving, he
goes.
I'm never going back thereagain.

I think everyone sees it in the Southern Ocean.

When I think of sailing, I think of sun.
That's what I like.
But I've also interviewedpeople that only like the
spalboard or what's thatsouthern tip of South America.
They love ice and sleet.
Are you that kind of gal?
I am a little bit.

The windier it gets, the more I love being on
the boat.
If there's nothing the doldrumsit's the worst place to be.
But the Southern Ocean it'scold and it can be wet, but it's
also the most amazing sailing.
You know massive, big, rollingswell that you can surf down and
it's yeah, it's, it's cool downthere okay, you're a beast.

Okay, maybe I'll have you back on the podcast and
we'll talk about your last timearound the world, okay, you
back on the podcast and we'lltalk about your last time around
the world.

Okay, yeah, yeah , lots of freeze-dried.
Uh, no, nothing exotic, youknow, no showers, nothing like
that.

So yeah, well, when it's really cold like that.
It's not what you think of,right?
You don't think of showers, um,so is there anything else that
any you want people to know?
Any kind of uh, we've covered alot of features, is anything
new that we maybe haven'tmentioned?
I'm just trying to think, um,and where do the people go to

(55:32):
sign up?
Go to predictwincom.
They can also follow you oninstagram, right is that?

it.
Yeah, and facebook, um, yeah,the website.
You can just log in and if youhaven't created a registration,
and then you, straight away, youget um, you know, access to all
the free forecasts.
You can add a couple oflocations.
You don't have to go anyfurther than the free.
If you don't want to, you canjust get a, you know, just get
really accurate forecasts forwhere you live.

(56:01):
But, um, if you want to addmore locations and look at
things like the observations andtracking and all of that, then
you start going up the levels.
But, yeah, I just reallyencourage anyone to reach out to
our support team.
If there's anything that youdon't understand, we're more
than happy to help.
Um, if there's any featuresthat you think would be a good
asset for predict one, we'realso keen to hear about those

(56:22):
too.

So, yeah, we're always trying to improve what we
offer can we get you to um toadd island packets to the list?

yeah, so I we.
Yes, if you can get us thepolars, I can add them, so you'd
have to go I.
I can have a look online.
If I can see it was an IslandPacket 320, eh 320, yeah.
And.

I talk to a lot of Island Packet folks in the
community because I have anIsland Packet.
So you don't have IslandPackets in the list.
We definitely need to talkabout that.

We've got some.
I looked We've got a couple,just not not the 320.
So if you can find that, it's a1998 community?
Yeah, then we can for sure addit.
It's.

That's easy, we just need the data okay, well,
um hayden, if he's stillwatching, he'll know what you
just said, that you need thepollers.
I don't know what that is.
I'll have to ask chat gpt whatthat is.
But is it basically just allthe data, all the uh, the
specifications for the boat?

it's.
It's how your boat will sail inany given wind condition.
So like what speed will yourboat do in 15 knots of wind at
90 degree true wind angle?
So so when you're reaching in15 knots, is your boat going to
do six knots?
Well then we put that into achart and then, at 20 knots,
what speed will it do At fiveknots?
What will it do when you go offto a B-map and broad reach, 150

(57:50):
true wind angle, what speed isyour boat going to do?
And so it builds this polarcurve and then from there our
router can figure out how fastyour boat's going to move
through the different weathersystems and put you in the right
spot at the right time for thatweather.
And you can see why that's soimportant, because your boat's
so different to my brother'sboat, and that's really

(58:10):
important to know, because ifyou're not in the right weather
system at the right time, allthe information you're getting
from us is going to be wrong.
So you've got to set thosethings up.

I can definitely sound this.
This is amazing.
So Hayden says we have all thepollers for every IP yacht.

Great.
So if you can send them to us,we'll load them into the system
and then they'll be available toeverybody.
And you know, you just selectthe predefined poller, scroll
down in the list to ip320, andthen our router will use those
and be way more accurate than a30 foot sailboat that I put you
on for now that is so awesome,okay, so how does he get this to

(58:51):
you?
to send it to support atpredictwindcom and um and say
attention, karen from thepodcast, please load these
pollers into the system and thenjust give us those.
We really need them in like acsv.
We can't really get them justfrom a pdf, so if you could
convert them into some sort ofcsv file, that would.

Let me, let me, okay, support at predictwindcom.
Attention Karen, yeah, okay,hey, hayden, can you do that
before this weekend?

(59:32):
So, yeah, this is an islandpacket expert right here, right
there, awesome, okay, and um,also, uh, sailing zippity says
that the hub collect thisinformation yes, it does.

So the really cool thing about the data hub is
it can create your own set ofcustom pollers.
So if you plug it into, you,plug the data hub into your n2k
network, then it will look athow you're sailing, the wind
conditions, the wave conditions,and it will send all of that
information back to predict wind.
We know that you've got anisland packet 320, but then you

(01:00:11):
sail it like you know.
You sail it this way.
Then we'll start building you apolar diagram specific to the
way you sail the boat and overtime that will become more and
more accurate and um, and thenyour routing will become more
accurate and you'll have, youknow, more accurate information
for each passage.
So, yeah, that's the data hubis very cool for that um yeah,

(01:00:33):
this is really doing a lot ofwork for you this is really
doing a lot of work for you.
Yeah, it is so.

Capn Tinsley (01:00:39):
Hayden says, yes, he's going to send you that
information and he is the manfor that information.
Okay, do we have any otherquestions?
Anybody out there?
Let's give them a minute.
So thank you, hayden, for doingthat quickly, like tomorrow.

Keryn McMaster (01:01:00):
There's the email, if you've got Starlink,
we can update a little along theway.
So that's one of the beautiesof Starlink these days.

Yeah, pretty sure my polars will improve.
We are starting our cruisinglife next year.
We've got plenty of time, okay.

And we use AI, artificial intelligence, to
build those polars too.
So if you are sailing and thenall of a sudden you catch a fish
and you slow down and you turnaround because you're trying to
pull it in or you know youstarted motoring for whatever
reason, then AI will look atthat and say, oh, we're going to
exclude that data becausethat's not how you normally sail
.
So there's like a range of itfigures out when you're motoring
, when you're anchoring, itfigures out when you're motoring

(01:01:35):
when you're anchored, and itwill only use the best data when
it can find it.

So it's a very clever little box, okay.

And so what kind of account did you just create
for me?
I put you on the pro level.
You've got to know when it'sgoing to get nasty around that
corner.

So that is the $29 package.

No, that's the professional, the $4.99 for the
year.

Wow, all right, do I get to keep it?
Yes, you do.
Yeah, yes, that's a little giftfor having you on the podcast,
right?

Yeah, I'm more than happy to do that for you,
absolutely Thank you.

Thank you so much.
Okay, so now I'm really goingto be singing your praises.
So, um anything else.
I'm just trying to wait and seeif any any other comments come
in.
Um anything else you want us toknow.
That is some great things.
I have learned so much just inthis hour, uh, but.

I'm going to.
I mean sorry, there's so much Icould talk about, but I'll just
yeah.

Well, maybe we'll have a part two during my trip.
Absolutely, yeah, I'll be doingthis from the.

Bahamas yeah, I'd love to see you in the
Bahamas and we can talk abouthow your trip was and what you
found good and and what we needto improve, or you know how your
pollers went, what theforecasts were like.
All of that would be great tohear okay, all right.

Well, thank you so much.
I appreciate you.
I don't know if it was you thatreached out to me.
I can't remember.
It might have been.

Ellie, I think it was our social media.

Okay, well, that was just whose idea?
Was that, by the way, to startreaching out to the podcasters?

We've got some amazing social media team now
we're really working hard ongetting out there to everybody.
So, yeah, they're promoting usa lot and trying to get you know
the people in the team thatactually use the product to talk
about it, because that's thebest endorsement for it when
you've actually taken yourdaughter offshore in rough
weather and it's all been okay.

I'm going to have two cats with me.
I don't have children, but Ihave cats.
Good luck.
Well, it's going to be moreimportant than ever to go in
calm conditions.
You know, I don't want to takethem offshore when it's all
crazy no, not at all.
You don't want to ski them, no,all right.
Well, thank you so much.

(01:03:53):
What a pleasure it has been totalk to you.
You're welcome.
There's going to be a follow-upso cool I look forward to it.
All right, and I will email youabout creating my page.
Is that what I need to do?
My, okay, my tracking okay.

I just need name and how are you gonna?
Um, if you're going to use theinReach for now until I send you
a data hub, I just need to knowthe details of that so we can
tap into it and get yourposition reports.

Okay, so what do I send you from the inReach?
What do I send?

You need the track feed.
Yeah, I'll send you someinformation, okay.
Yeah, then we can just grabthat data from inReach and put
it onto your page.
Okay.

All right.
Well, thank you so much, anduntil we meet again, and with
that I'll say, salty Abandon out.
Yeah, thank you.

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