Galaxy S25 Slim Surprises + Chrome Leaving Galaxy Phones?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back everybody.
This is episode number 22 ofthe Sammy Guru Podcast.
My name is Jeff Springer.
With me, as always, my co-host,Torrey Torrey, say hi.
Yeah how's it going?
And yeah, we're back in realtime.
We're back here only five daysafter our previous recording,
we're back on Friday, usualFriday schedule.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes, how was?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
your week, Torrey.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
So far, so good.
I mean what this week kind offlew by kind of fast, to be
honest.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It always does in academia at the end of the
semester, especially towards thefall, because of the holidays.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, so it was really just cranking out some
grades.
I definitely got to do a lot ofthat next week, and then we
were just told we have a halfday on Wednesday, so I should
get out.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
That's generous of them, very generous.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I know it would be nice if we got the actual whole
week off.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, or at least the whole Wednesday.
Yes, right, so you can go homeand prep some of your
Thanksgiving stuff.
Are you going to be making thatturkey for the family dinner?
I know you were telling meabout that Nobody wants to make
the turkey.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Uh-oh, you wants to make the turkey.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
oh you guys gonna buy one uh, no, uh, no one actually
wants the turkey period, so, oh, we're just gonna do, uh,
rotisserie chicken oh okay,actually that's interesting
because nicole was just sayingthe other day she's like uh, you
know, I kind of like chickenbetter than turkey, and we I was
like no, we can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I was like this is america.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Come on now.
We can't have, we can't have,not turkey on Thanksgiving.
I was like you can make achicken with it, like I can't
not eat turkey on Thanksgiving.
I mean, the fact of the matteris I don't like ham, but ham is
for Christmas.
I still agree to the hambecause this is you know, it's
an American, it's an institution.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
The holiday ham.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I mean I don't like cooked ham at all, but I still
don't say let's not have itbecause you know.
But you know, of course, if shewants to make a chicken too,
that's fine.
I mean, I understand Somepeople do Turkey's a little
drier.
Honestly, I like drier.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I like drier chicken too, which is a big thing my
chicken a little drier.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Maybe it's because I always, you know, a little
scared of like salmonella orsomething like this when I get
it out you know I can get it outin a restaurant yeah I don't
want like super juicy chickenbecause I'm like well, I'm a
little iffy about how it's beencooked fully or not.
Yeah, at home I'm not as iffylike I don't mind juicy chicken
if my wife is making it, becauseI know she temperature checks
it and she goes through therigorous processes.

(02:26):
But in the restaurant I'm likemaybe I'd prefer it to be a
little drier, because I know ifit's dry, ish is definitely not
going to give me any foodpoisoning because I did get that
one time and it will definitelychange your, your view
salmonella poisoning is no, nojoke no, not at all you won't
have anything left in yourinsides at all, no problem,

(02:46):
barely any liquid left either.
You'll throw up everything thatyou possibly have.
I had that when I was ateenager, and so that could be
why my paranoia from it Explainsa lot.
I have a big announcement thatI didn't want to wait until the
end of the show for this one.
I didn't even tell you yeah,tell you, yeah, no, I didn't.

(03:07):
Even this week I got superlucky.
Um, he's been a pretty goodfriend, slash acquaintance of
mine since I kind of starteddoing youtube 11 years ago
almost 11 years ago now.
You guys all know him flossycarter, one of the biggest tech
youtubers out there.
Uh, he made his z-fold specialedition video.
I think it was monday ortuesday, I think it was maybe
tuesday.
He posted it in the morning andso I hadn't watched it yet
because, of course, I was doingmy stuff.
I always watch his content.

(03:28):
I love his content.
He's one of my favoriteYouTubers and one of the guys
who originally inspired me tostart making content on YouTube,
and so I always watch his stuff.
I was just busy doing Sammy Gurustuff and it was the middle of
the day because he uploaded inthe morning and so I was looking
at my subscriber count.
I sat down to shoot a video andI looked at my subscriber count
and then I came back to YouTubestudio later and it went up

(03:49):
like 250 subs and it was onlylike 30 minutes and I was like
why did I gain 250 subs in 30minutes?
Like, that's a very atypicalfor us.
We might usually gain like fiveto 10 subs in 30 minutes, not
250.
And so I was like what happened?
And so then I keep getting allthese comments from people like
congratulations, congratulations.
And I was like what happened?
And so someone finally messagedin the comments and said

(04:12):
Flossie Carter actually pulledup your channel on his Z Fold
special edition unboxing.
He showed it and said gosubscribe to my guy, jeff
Springer.
He does amazing Samsung contentif you're a Samsung knight.
So he sent tons of people.
We've got over like 3,000 subsin like two or three days.
So if you guys are listening tothe podcast and you came from
Flossy Carter's channel, Ihighly appreciate you and also

(04:33):
appreciate him.
I gave him a shout out onTwitter, on X, thanking him for
it, and then a bunch of peoplewere saying because I guess they
saw the link on our website tothe podcast, we've got a lot of
new podcast listeners anddownloads this week too because
of it.
They're like you should haveFlossie Carter as a guest, and
so, of course, I tagged him andsaid hey, if you ever would be
down, we'd love to have you.
And he said I'm down anytime.

(04:54):
So we're going to try to haveI've been, you know, going to
talk to him, but try to have himon for the Galaxy S25 launch
sometime around when the phonesrelease so we can talk about the
new Galaxy S25 lineup, our nextpremiere headlining guest.
We'll probably have a couplemore before then, but Flossie
Carter agreed that he would comeon the show, really appreciate

(05:16):
the shout out that he gave SammyGuru, our YouTube channel and
just everything we do.
It's always nice when peoplewho have a huge audience give
you a shout out, and I don'tever go around asking people for
a shout outs because if you'redoing quality work, then
eventually hopefully people willdo that anyway.
And I really appreciate himkind of noticing what we're
doing, covering Samsung stuffand sending us a lot of people

(05:38):
who are interested in Samsungcontent.
So if you guys subscribed tothe podcast channel for that, we
super appreciate that.
Anyway, let's jump into theSamsung news, because that's
what we do here.
We got Samsung news this week.
I'm going to start off withsaying this before we get into
it, because I said last week I'mnot doing any more deep dives

(05:58):
into One UI 7.0.
The beta did not release it asDC Korea.
That's the piece of news youneed to know.
As we predicted, samsung saidabsolutely nothing about it and
so I'm not going to speculateany further on what's going to
happen, just going to say the1UI7.0 beta is coming when it
comes, and when it comes we'lltalk about it.

(06:19):
We're going to talk about somefeatures that are rumored for
1UI7.1 later in the show, butnothing else to say about the
beta other than it's not here,so no beta.
I'm sorry to all of you becauseI know everyone wants it, just
like I do.
But let's start off with someGalaxy S25 Ultra news.
This came out on Monday.
We had widely reported already,along with a bunch of other

(06:40):
Samsung outlets, that the GalaxyS25 Ultra is going to miss out
on the M14 OLED panels, whichbring higher brightness and
color accuracy.
Very surprising, becauseSamsung actually manufactures
these panels themselves SamsungDisplay and they sold the panels
.
A lot of people don't realizethis, but Samsung sells the
panels that go in the iPhone, sothey sold these panels to Apple

(07:04):
for the iPhone 16 Pro and ProMax, but a Galaxy S24 Ultra is
apparently not getting thatupgrade, so it's not getting the
M14 OLED.
However, it is getting anupgraded M13, which they're
going to call the M13 Plus OLEDpanels, and this is going to
still bring higher brightnessand color accuracy, along with

(07:26):
the one thing that I thinkeveryone has been wanting, and
that is a fix of the grainydisplay issue on the Galaxy S24
Ultra.
I know you don't have one, soyou probably didn't read much
about this, but when the GalaxyS24 Ultra came out and still to
this day, because this is ahardware issue.
If you view darker content onyour Galaxy S24 Ultra in certain

(07:47):
lighting conditions, like whenit's darker, like at night, if
you view some content that'sdark while it's dark, you'll see
a grain effect.
So it kind of looks grainy onthe display at certain angles
and it's actually a problem withthe panels itself.
A lot of people have keptasking me throughout the year
like do you think Samsung'sgoing to push a software update
to fix this?
Of course not, unfortunately,because it's a hardware issue.

(08:10):
So I wish I could tell youbetter news about that, because
a lot of people always commentthat on the YouTube videos as
well.
Is there going to be a fix onthe S24 Ultra?
No, it is there.
It's not going away.
You can't fix a hardwareproblem with software.
They can try to minimize it,but no fix in sight.
But this is good news thatthey're still going to improve.

(08:32):
I mean I had a feeling theywould improve the brightness.
They almost always do and eventhough a lot of people are like
well, you know how can theysupply the panels for the iPhone
and then not put that upgradeon the S25 Ultra, supply the
panels for the iPhone and thennot put that upgrade on the S25
Ultra.
Well, as we're going to talkabout in a few minutes, there's
a lot more rumors pointing tothe fact that the S25 Ultra will
already get a price increase.
We talked about pricing lastweek at the S25 lineup and if

(08:56):
they did this if they did theM14, it would probably have to
drive the price up even more.
Or perhaps Samsung is reallytrying to cling to that $1299
starting price and they realizethat if they added this upgrade,
maybe they would have to forcea price change.
So I think it's probably not amassive deal, but it is

(09:18):
certainly disappointing to nothave a feature that's on the
iPhone flagship model.
But also, remember, the iPhonehas a bunch of stuff.
I mean the Samsung devices havea lot of stuff.
That's not that.
I mean the Samsung devices havea lot of stuff that's not on
the iPhones.
Right, they got no S Pen.
They got no multitasking.
They got no they got basically avery inferior and limited
camera system.
There's a lot, of, a lot ofthings that we have on the

(09:40):
Galaxy phones that they don'thave on the iPhone devices, so
it's not like well, they got theM14 OLED.
We should be really sad aboutit.
As long as the M13 Plus is goodand also, to be honest, there's
nothing wrong with the GalaxyS24 Ultra display, outside of
the grain issue, the brightnessand everything in daylight and
everything is great.
So if they improve that and thecolor accuracy and they fix the

(10:02):
grain and also keep in mind theother thing the iPhone doesn't
have, remember we talked aboutlast week is that
anti-reflective coating.
Just look at these two.
So look, here's the Z Fold SEand here's the S24 Ultra.
Look at it in the light.
Look how less reflective it ison the S24 Ultra.
You see the difference.
I mean, you can clearly see ifyou reflect them in the lights.
Here in the office, the S24ultra just resting on the table,

(10:25):
like you can see, like if youput these two side by side, this
one looks a lot blacker, righta lot darker, because you can't
see any of the reflective lightoff the top of it.
So I think that anti-reflectivecoating, which the iphone
doesn't have and actually it'svery reflective it's probably
more reflective than the z-foldse.
I don't have an ip on the tableright now, but I own an iPhone
16 Pro Max and it sits on mydesk in the office a lot of

(10:48):
times and sometimes I'm like,wow, it's really, like it really
catches the light, which is notgreat.
It's not good for your eyes.
So I think that's a prettysizable upgrade.
I don't know, tori, what do youthink?
This?
You're the expert residentaverage consumer.
No, no average consumer isreally going to care about

(11:08):
whether there's an m13 plus orm14 oled panel.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
But yeah, yeah, no, I mean honestly, like, as you
were saying it, I was thinking,I was like, I mean, I, I don't
think I would care, I, I justwant the new phone, um, and so
like, for me, like, I mean, likeyou're just gonna say is the
panel good, right like is thescreen good yeah, yeah, yeah
like that's what the averageperson says because, like to the
average consumer, like whenyou're just getting that, that

(11:30):
new device, because, obviously,like you're not getting a new
device all the time, like rightout of the box, like you're
already like.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I have a question for you because you always ask me
questions on the show so I havea question for you.
It's like what are the top threethings that like?
If you're just thinking like,usually like average consumers,
unlike enthusiasts like myselfwho are in the ecosystem all the
time and thinking about thesethings, if you had think about
it, you can think about it asecond.
What are the top three thingsabout the phone's display that
you'll notice when you first setup a new phone?

(11:57):
Like what, what will jump outto you?
Like, if a display has this, Iwould be impressed.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
What are three things you can think of?
Okay, for me, I think in thelast few phones especially when
I'm going into the store andthey're, like you know, turning
on the phone and they're helpingme transfer over my data and
stuff For me what sticks out themost is like the brightness and
the icons.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I figured the brightness would be a big one
especially in Arizona, right,because also when you get the
phone and you take it outside,that's one thing that, like if
the brightness wasn't good youwould be pretty pissed about it
Because you'd be like I can'tsee it outside.
I'm going to return the phone,so if it's fairly, dim, which
Samsung and both Apple usuallydon't have this problem anymore
because it's gotten to a pointwith the tech where it's not a
problem.
But I think if you have aflagship phone, honestly, and

(12:42):
you downgrade to a mid-tierphone which people never do that
you would be disappointedbecause the brightness is so
much worse than a lot ofmid-range phones and budget
phones.
So that's one thing, okay.
And then the icons.
You said as well, yeah, theicons.
Like the color of the icons.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, like, just like the color of the icons, the
poppiness, I guess, if that's aword, it's like the color
saturation.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
So you do care about, see, like these upgrades.
The people don't know the namesof them, but they do care about
the things it brings right,like the panel, the brightness
it brings brightness.
It brings better color accuracyand saturation, anything else.
Can you think of another thing?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I'd just say like snappiness, as you're kind of
like navigating through, likethe menus, and stuff Touch
responsive through, like themenus and stuff responsive, yeah
, yeah, touch responsive.
Uh, those are things I thinkalso too, when I talk to others,
um, like when you just rightout of the box, like that's what
you kind of gravitate towardsand you're like, oh okay, like I
made a good purchase, like youknow, that's that's what I feel,
yeah, yeah I think I felt likebrightness.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
If you ask most average consumers, a lot of them
would say brightness becauseit's important, and if you take
it outside and the brightnessisn't good.
And also another thing averageconsumers don't think about too,
and I've heard some people sayto me who are more like an
average user if you have a phoneand it's bright inside but you
take it outside and has poorviewing angles, like you can't

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look at it.
If you turn it to the side andit's hard to see, well, then
that also is annoying,especially in in arizona so
these display upgrades, theyhelp with all that stuff, even
though people don't care toomuch about the numbering,
they're just going to wonder arethey any good?
And I think, in terms of, arethey any good, the m13 plus
versus the m14 is not going tomatter because, honestly, an

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extra 30 nits of brightness oran extra you know couple of
percentage points of accuracy onthe color gamut, the average
person's not gonna notice thatat all, and you know, I think
you too.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You guys just remember, uh, like no kind of
like.
What I always say like to us,the average consumers, these
this is is a legit investmentfor like two to three years and
so, like, um, getting a newphone.
Well, you're thinking aboutsomeone getting a brand new
phone like three years down theline, and so, yeah, if they're

(14:52):
getting like either the sametier phone or maybe a step above
, like is going to feel like areally nice purchase and like
when they're, when you'relooking at the display and
everything, like you know, likethat, no matter what, the phone
is going to feel awesome.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
And that's why the that's why the average consumer
buyers should be more pissed offthan the regular people who are
enthusiasts, who buy every yearbecause they're just going to
have a chance to get a new phonenext year, because they're
going to buy it anyway.
Yeah, but we, but we go onTwitter and complain about all
the minute things like oh no,it's the M13 Plus and not the
M14,.
Guys, we're going to have toboycott Samsung, even though we

(15:30):
know that you have a separatebank account named Samsung, that
you have a savings account youset aside to buy the next device
because that's the kind of fanyou are.
Samsung knows that, but you'restill like, oh no, m13 Plus, we
can't have that.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And I'm like what's an M13 Plus?
And then the average person islike this Samsung looks really
nice, super bright.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I think I'm going to buy it.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, it does.
They're like oh $1,300, maybe$1,400.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
We'll buy it Just a payment plan $35 a month for 36
months.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
We'll do it all day.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, that's the display upgrade.
It's interesting because itseems like it's going to be a
pretty solid upgrade, eventhough maybe not exactly the
number upgrade.
But, as Tori and I just kind ofelaborated, for the person
buying these phones in generalthey don't care too much about
that.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, no, not at all.
I am super excited for the S25.
I think it's going to be oneobviously a nice upgrade from
the 22,.
But I'm looking forward to thedisplay overall.
I'm looking forward to just thenavigation, like how it feels

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going through the menus, andjust honestly like the phone.
Overall, I am really excitedabout this phone.
I think not getting the 24, butgoing into the 25, I think this
is going to be a really goodyear for Samsung.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Three-year upgrade cycle.
I think it's great.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
All right, let's see what we got next.
I'm going to take off my hoodiereal quick.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh yeah, All right.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I just wanted a good segue.
I just wanted to do it.
I'm a little hot.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Well, you're the king of the segue, since we got
another hour yeah, I don't wantto be hot for another hour, I
know.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I just wanted a point where I could be like let's get
into what we're doing next, sothen I can come back and say all
right, moving along, yeah, allright.
So let's keep it right therewith some more s25 information.
We had two different sourcesthis week say, as I just told

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you guys, the prices on thegalaxy s25 series could go up in
some regions.
So it may be a good time for meto revise my price predictions
from last week.
This information came out just afew days after we recorded the
podcast last week.
Originally I said $7.99 for thebase, $9.99 for the plus.
I said $11.49 for the slim, butit probably would be $11.99 or

(17:52):
$10.99 because they're not goingto go with a $49 price tag, and
then $12.99 for the ultra.
So I guess if I have to reviseit I'm going to go $899 for the
base, $1099 for the plus, $1199for the slim and $1399 for the
ultra.
That's where, I think, theprices will be $100 increase

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across the board, One of therumors we saw said that there's
$120 of extra parts cost in theS25 Ultra over the S24 Ultra.
I could believe that there'sbeen a lot of prices going up
and remember we talked about thefact that the Snapdragon 8
Elite, which is going to go inthe S25 Ultra and all the S25s

(18:38):
globally, that chip is going topotentially be more expensive
for a number of reasons, notleast of which is the dispute
between Qualcomm and Arm that wetalked about before that whole
legal battle, so that, alongwith all the other components,
pricing could drive it up,obviously, if Samsung's paying
$120 more to build the phoneit's kind of hard to eat.
An extra $120 off the top of theprofit because then you're not

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going to meet your price yearover year kind of growth targets
on the phones.
So just as a revision becauselast week I said you know those
were my guesses I want to revisethose now that we're hearing
this.
We'd heard this before, butwe've also heard some reports,
people saying Samsung was tryingto keep the price stagnant.
I still don't know.

(19:29):
I mean honestly.
Obviously we're hearing variouspeople who are liable saying
this, this, but it's still likeit's going to be a little
surprising because apple didn'traise the prices on the iphones.
Well, they kind of did, butthey just like they raised the
prices kind of, but they madethe starting storage I think was
256 because their old one usedto be 128.
So they kind of raised theprice, but kind of not because
they made the starting storagelarger.
Um, I don't know if samsungsamsung usually offers a free
storage upgrade, so they kind ofraised the price, but kind of
not because they made thestarting storage larger.
I don't know if Samsung Samsungusually offers a free storage
upgrade, so that kind of alsoeases the burden of a price

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increase if you pre-order.
So like usually, like if youbuy a 256, they'll give you a
512 instead for no extra charge.
If you buy a 512 gig, they'llgive you one terabyte for free,
for no extra charge.
That's really nice if you careabout getting that extra storage
, obviously doubling yourstorage that's usually a $150
upgrade.
That makes it a little easierto swallow.

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And also, I think the otherreason that it makes it easier
for Samsung fans is Samsungoffers those crazy trade-in
values on the pre-order period.
So if you have a Galaxy S22Ultra, like Tori, which he's
going to trade in, you'reprobably going to get $800 even
for an S22 Ultra.
They really try to give outcrazy trade values for, like the
previous three years becausethey know those are the most

(20:32):
likely people to upgrade theirphones that three-year kind of
upgrade cycle.
And then, of course, the crazypeople just upgrade every year.
They give you good value toobecause they know I mean
honestly, if I was Samsung, Imean I obviously you can't do
this because you would just pissoff a lot of people.
But I'd just be like you knowwhat?
The s22 and the s23 ultra, youguys get a thousand dollar trade

(20:53):
in and the s24 ultra, you guysonly get 700.
Why?
Because we know if you have ans24 ultra and you're trading it
in.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
You're just going to buy it anyway, yeah because you
have to have it, so you might aswell make an extra 300 off of
you.
Yeah, because you're trading itin.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
You're just going to buy it anyway because you have
to have it.
So you might as well make anextra $300 off of you because
you're going to buy it anyway.
Because all those people whoare trading S3 for Ultras,
they're just like me.
They just tech is a hobby andthey're not going to not get it.
They're complaining about it.
They'll probably write afive-page essay about it and
post it on X and Facebook andInstagram.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Instagram and Reddit.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
And then they'll probably send us an email about
it and they'll send Sam Mobileand everybody else an email
about it, but they still buy one.
And so I'm just kidding.
I mean you can't do that,obviously, but it would be funny
if they did that, because thatreally is.
I'm sure the analytics suggestthat people who do upgrade year
over year, they would buy itwhere, no matter where the
trade-in value is for the mostpart.
So that's Galaxy S25 stuff, atleast what was covered at the

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beginning of the week.
I'm kind of going through thestories.
Another big software story thisis about One UI 7.1, not 7.0,
just clarifying One UI 7.1,which will release in the Galaxy
S25 series as well.
So it kind of ties in nicely isgoing to come with an
AI-powered video object eraser,which we already have for images

(22:05):
.
Basically open your photos anduse Galaxy Eye and you just
highlight the stuff you want toerase and poof, it's gone.
It's like magic.
Now you'll be able to do thesame thing with videos.
So you take a video of, like Itake a video of Jonathan riding
his bike and, you know, maybesomeone photo bombs or video

(22:26):
bombs my video.
Someone else is walking downthe street and I'm like I don't
want them walking down thestreet, I just want Jonathan
riding his bike.
Just highlight that person,boom, they're gone.
Now it's just Jonathan ridinghis bike on the street.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Oh, that's pretty cool.
I feel like people would likethat.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, I think everybody would use that.
Enthusiasts would like this.
Average consumers use this.
It all depends on how good itis.
Obviously, it's a heck of a lotharder to do this, as we know,
as mathematicians and you know,because we talk about this kind
of stuff in linear algebra withblurring and deblurring and all
this stuff, it's very, verydifficult to do this video
versus images.
In images, it's already hard todo removal and repair a photo

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so that it blends in nicely,because a lot of that has to do
with the same ideas that we usewhen we talk about blurring and
deblurring things using Gaussiansources and stuff in linear
algebra, and so doing this withvideo is even harder.
Because now, right, if you havea high resolution, high frame
rate video, you, like mostpeople, shoot in 1080p, 60
frames a second.
You have 60 frames every secondthat you have to be analyzing

(23:23):
and figuring out how to removeand repair that 60 frames every
second.
So if you have a minute ofvideo, you have to analyze 3,600
separate frames, repair those,blend them in, but not only
blend them in.
Blend them in so that themotion also looks like there was
, that object, was never there.
Um, and photos.
It's already hard, but we'vegotten the computational power

(23:46):
and the AI to where that'sdoable and it looks pretty good.
I'm curious to see what happenswith video.
Obviously, there are some AIvideo generators out there that
make AI video, but they stillhave a lot of problems too.
Sometimes they give people likefive arms.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
You know they got like two noses, know you got
like seven fingers.
So there's still problems withthis kind of thing, so it's not
going to be perfect, but wouldyou, would you use it if this
came?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
and it was, it was actually good oh yeah, actually,
um, you know, because I wasthinking like, again, I don't
have a whole lot of like techstuff or like subscriptions to
like tech things, but, like youknow, whenever I want to make a
video, um, I know like, okay,like my phone, you know it's
like a good camera and videorecorder, um, but like I don't

(24:33):
know how to do all that editingstuff but, um, you know, I
wouldn't even know like where tobegin, and so, like, having
more in-house, um you know,tools that I I can use in the
photo or video editor, that'ssomething I would gravitate
towards, because I really dowant to sometimes make a video

(24:55):
content or I need to for like aclass.
And you know, if I was able tohave more options and more
advanced things to do on myphone that was more
user-friendly, that I feel likemore people would gravitate and
use those features.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I agree.
I think this is something thata lot of people use, Not only
the average consumer as well asthe enthusiasts are going to
like this as long as it's good.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, as long as it's good.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Hopefully Samsung doesn't release it if it's not
good, because if it's not goodpeople are going to get roasted
because it's going to do likeweird stuff.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
And there'll probably be lots of like shorts and
memes of them of the video, likeadding weird artifacts, and
then that won't be good, so Ihope they don't release this if
it's not ready.
Makes me nervous just because,going back to the thing that
we're not going to talk about,it's like Voldemort.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I mean wait.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I shouldn't have said it.
It's the software that shallnot be named.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
There you go Is not ready yet.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
So, since the software that shall not be named
isn't ready yet, I don't knowhow these insanely advanced
features in the next software7.1, are going to progress and
also be stable by the time theyroll out.
But hey, we'll cross ourfingers.
Samsung is a multi-hundredbillions of dollar, billions of

(26:07):
dollar corporation, so you know,maybe they can make it happen.
It'd be pretty, pretty nice ifthey could.
So, um, let's see what else wegot.
Some other good stuff.
Oh, gboard added some newfeatures for galaxy this week,
including a new emoji kitchen.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Um, I don't know why, but a lot of people who follow
me.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
They hate gboard.
I don't know why they hate alot of people who follow me.
They hate Gboard.
I don't know why they hateGboard so much, but they do.
They can't stand it.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Isn't that the keyboard for?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
That's Google's keyboard, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I like it.
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Which can be used on Samsung as your default, but
they are all like Samsungkeyboard fans.
I guess they just don't likeGoogle in general.
Maybe that's the problemthey're just not a Google fan.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
But isn't Samsung messages going away?

Speaker 1 (26:49):
In the US.
Yeah, they also don't like thateither.
I guess they're just like, yeah, Google is an evil company.
They're stealing everyone'sdata, so we don't want anything
to do with them.
But, yeah, they added some newfeatures on Galaxy phones the
ability to scan and extract textfrom real-world objects in any
text field.
You already have this option onSamsung Keyboard as well, so if

(27:10):
you like Samsung Keyboard hey,don't send me any messages about
how I'm trying to force Gboardon you, I'm just telling people.
There's about still a goodchunk of people almost half
people who use Gboard as thedefault, so it's worth covering.
You also now get a bettergrammar assistant with
proofreading function thatidentifies and fixes your errors
in just one tap.

(27:31):
I really do like the functionto scan text and then
automatically import it into thefield.
So, like this is really coolbecause if you have like a
document that you're trying tosend some information to someone
on a document, you can justscan that and it'll enter it as
text in your text message.
So, like you know.
If you're like, you know,here's a recipe I want to give

(27:51):
to someone and you want to haveit, you know, in text form.
You could scan it and it'lltake the text of the recipe and
put it in the text message oryour email or whatever you want
to do.
A lot of the Samsung apps willdo this as well.
And then Emoji Kitchen.
I don't know if you've heard ofEmoji Kitchen.
It lets you.
It's on your Gboard keyboard.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
If you press the emoji, you can combine two
emojis into one and it willanimate them.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
So it's really cool.
So, like you can do like a poopand a Santa emoji and it'll
make you like a piece of poop onSanta's head or something you
know.
Whatever it'll it'll, it'llmash it up like using ai uh, and
so this is now.
They've added more options toemoji kitchen.
It's been around for a while,but they added more options, so
I just wanted to let people know.
I mean, hey, like I said, ifyou don't like g board, don't,

(28:36):
don't get too angry, just calmdown.
Have have a relaxing beverage,it's gonna be fine.
A lot of people send me.
They send me comments all time.
This week I've probably seen atleast 50, 60 comments because I
made a video.
That video about SamsungMessages and Google Messages
again and how Google Messageswas adding high-quality photo
sharing, which actually did rollout this week.
So if you have Google Messages,you can use that now.

(28:57):
And people are like well, Idon't want it.
I don't care what features theyadd.
They're like even if they addthe best features, I want to
keep Samsung messages forever.
And I'm like well, you got totalk to Samsung about that,
because they don't seem to wantyou to do that.
It doesn't seem like that's ontheir particular plan.
So you know, we'll see.
We'll see what happens there.

(29:18):
The Galaxy S25 Slim so this isanother one that came out.
The slim flagship is going tofeature a new iso cell hp5 200
megapixel camera with an appoptical format of 1 over 1.56
inches.
That's a smaller sensor thanthe galaxy s24 ultra's 1 over
1.3 inch 200 megapixel sensor.
And the galaxy s25 ultra isexpected to feature an unchanged

(29:40):
unit, though we wouldn't besurprised if it features the
same sensor as the Slim.
Now, this rumor I don't knowabout this this rumor came from
a.
Fairly, this is a.
We publish rumors fromeverywhere, just like Sam Mobile
does.
This one's a little moreskeptical, to be honest to me

(30:00):
and we put that in the articlethat this is a very you know,
take this with a grain of salt,but it's we try to report.
You know what's out there.
I don't know that.
I believe this one.
Basically, they're saying theS25 Ultra could have a worse
camera than the Slim.
I don't see any way like I'd bewilling to bet most of my net
worth.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I mean, nicole wouldn't be very happy if I did
most of my net worth that thatdoesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Because how can you call the phone the ultra if it
doesn't have the top tier camera?
Like you've got to have the toptier camera, otherwise it's
just a waste, right?
I mean, there's no point intrying to sell an ultra phone
that doesn't have the bestcamera.
Yeah, um, so how can you put abetter primary camera with a
smaller aperture inside a betteraperture rating inside the slim

(30:42):
?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
because then the slim is basically the ultra.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah it's not a clear , defining marketing campaign,
then, because it's like the slimis ultra for the camera but
it's slim, and then the ultra isultra for the s-pen but not the
camera, because it's worse thanthe slim which is ultra for the
camera.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It doesn't make any sense no, I mean, how can you
market?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
that, like you're asking for a lot of trouble,
because then consumers can'tfigure out.
Like, which phone do I buy?
Like, if I want the best cameraand all the stuff, do I buy the
slim or the ultra?
Well, if the slim has a bettercamera but not the s pen, I
can't get all the stuff yeah andthe ultra has a worse camera
but the Pen.
There has to be one phone thatgets all the top stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, just like Apple does, preferably the Ultra.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean the Ultra.
That's why it's called theUltra.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah Right, it's supposed to have everything.
Yeah, I don't believe this.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I mean, we really hope this happens.
People will be super excited ifthis happens, because a lot of
people were, because they'relike, oh, it's only going to get
an upgraded ultra-wide sensorand not a new primary sensor,
and that primary sensor isn'teven that good.
Well, if this happens and theSlim and the Ultra both get the
same unit, that would be great,because now the S25 Ultra not

(31:53):
only has an ultra-wide cameraupgrade, it has a primary sensor
camera upgrade.
You've got build qualityupgrade, display upgrade,
processor upgrade.
There's a lot of upgrades, andI'm sure they're going to
upgrade the anti-reflectivecoating on here too.
It's shaping up to be a prettyinteresting phone.
People keep crapping on what'sgoing to happen with this phone
and the upgrades, but I don'tknow.
I think it could end up beingpretty good.
And I don't know, I think itcould end up being pretty good

(32:14):
and if this ends up happening,we would have a pretty nice
upgrade to the camera.
I don't know.
What do you think, tori?
Is there any way?
The Slim is going to have abetter primary camera than the
Ultra.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
No, it just doesn't make sense.
The Ultra maybe it's because wedon't have those marketing
degrees we were talking about.
We've got to get our marketingcertification.
I think so too.
Yeah, no for the Ultra.
Like I want the best stuff onit.
That's why I'm spending so muchmoney on that, to get the Ultra

(32:44):
.
So if the Slim's going to have,I mean I can see it in a sense
of maybe if they want people tobuy the Slim as well, like you
know, you kind of have like adifferent separation, like all
right, you know, you hit the Spen on the ultra, but you're
going to get the better cameraon the slim.
I don't think that's reallygoing to get the effect that

(33:06):
you're looking for.
Um, so I say, put the bestcamera.
I mean, like, if you can do iton both, do it on both, you know
, because then still the slimisn't getting the S Pen.
So you know, the Ultra shouldliterally have everything that
you have to offer at the timebeing.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, I agree, I don't think there's any chance,
but we'll see.
I mean crazier things maybehave happened.
I don't actually know ifcrazier things have happened,
because that's pretty crazy, butyou never know it could happen.
Crazy things have happenedbecause that's pretty crazy, but
you never know it could happen.
Google and Samsung posted ajoint press release this week
talking about their partnershipwith RCS messaging.
As we know, the iPhone also gotRCS messaging and one of the

(33:47):
things that Samsung put at theend of their press release
there's a lot of stuff We'lltalk about the second half of
the show too anotherSamsung-Apple kind of feud with
their latest ad.
But at the end of their pressrelease they reminded us if you
want to get the best encryption,security encryption from RCS,
it has to be between Androidphone to Android phone, android

(34:08):
to iOS.
If you do Android to iPhone,even though you get the
reactions and all the readreceipts and all that stuff like
tell you when someone read yourmessage, you don't get the end
to end encryption.
So they wanted to let us knowthat if you're using an iPhone,
you're not really getting thefull benefits of RCS, and I
thought that was kind ofinteresting in that particular

(34:28):
post and also, again, pleasedon't get angry at us, we're
just the messenger.
I can't help that Samsung andGoogle are highlighting how much
they're working together forRCS.
Basically, in the post theywere also saying how Google
Messages is great and that'swhat they're planning to switch
everything to Google Messages.
Like I said last week, why wouldSamsung spend in the US to get

(34:49):
Samsung Messages certified towork with RCS and all the
carriers?
It would cost millions ofdollars.
So why would they do that?
I mean, they already have apartnership with Google.
Google already has an app thatis perfectly capable of doing
RCS.
It's already been certified,tested.
They're kind of the ones whooriginally kind of established
RCS.
So they're saving millions andGoogle's probably paying Samsung

(35:13):
a decent amount of money tomake Google messages the default
.
Samsung probably didn't just sayyou know, hey, we're just going
to switch on our own accordbecause we like you.
They're probably like, hey, youguys pay us a lot.
They pay Apple at.
They pay Apple a ton of moneyto preload certain things on to

(35:33):
yeah, to pay to preload certainthings onto the iPhone and so to
be the default search engine.
Google is the default searchengine on Safari.
If you search something inSafari browser on your iPhone.
It goes through Google.
They pay Apple I think it's $20billion a year to make it the
default search engine.
Of course, the estimate of whatthey make back from that

(35:55):
traffic is like $100 billion.
All of their ads business,because with all the people with
iPhones searching and then theyclick on all the ads and Google
, of course, is the one who runsand serves those ads they get
money for all that.
So it's $20 billion well spent.
But I'm sure Samsung also saidhey, we'll preload Google
Messages if you pay us somemoney, so Google's probably
paying them for that.

(36:16):
We'll preload Google messagesif you pay us some money, so
Google is probably paying themfor that.
But yeah, so I mean Apple'sdoing RCS but no encryption.
So that's the story there.
Next thing I'll talk about andI know people are just going to
probably be like what is thisLike?
Is this like the Chromecast?
Now?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
No, there's another podcast called the.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Chromecast, which is a Chromebook podcast.
They're great guys actuallyJust check them out.
But no, we're just talkingabout Google today, because
there are some Google storiesand Google makes Android, which
runs on Samsung phones, a hugestory, which is that future
Galaxy phones may not come withGoogle Chrome.
Wouldn't that be crazy?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Wait what?
That makes no sense.

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All right, everybody, we'reback from the break and yeah, as
we teased before, we went tothe break, future Galaxy
smartphones may not ship withGoogle Chrome.
Here's the deal.
The Department of Justice, theUnited States Department of
Justice they are not too happywith Google.
The United States Department ofJustice.
They are not too happy withGoogle, particularly the fact

(38:19):
that Chrome and Android createsanti-competitive practices in
those segments, and they arebringing a lawsuit against
Google, and one of the thingsthat they would like Google to
do is they would like Google tosell.
They want to force Google tosell their Chrome browser to
another company and they wantthem to unbundle Android from

(38:40):
all the Google services apps,like Google Photos and all those
things, and give people a widerchoice over what apps to
utilize.
This would have a very bigimpact, obviously, on Android
devices and Samsung as well,because obviously it would mean
that you would no longer haveGoogle Chrome preloaded,
potentially.
Now, to unpack this a littlebit, the DOJ is saying,

(39:04):
basically, that Google usesChrome to force people to use
their engine and then that alsomakes them money through their
ad business, and so that thenmakes it very difficult for
people to break away from thatecosystem.
But Google fairly says thatthey've been seeing more
competition from search engines,including OpenAI with ChatGPT,

(39:26):
who they're making their ownsearch engine to go up against
Google and other search enginesout there as well, like
Microsoft and Bing.
And, in addition, the otherthing that they said is that if
they indeed did sell to anothercompany, who's going to have the
money to buy Chrome?

(39:46):
Chrome is very I forgot what thevaluation is, but it's a
ridiculous amount of money.
It's in the billions andbillions and billions of dollars
.
Anybody who bought this wouldhave to be another huge company.
They could then use Chrome tomake their own competitive
structure.
Obviously, microsoft also runsan ad business as well, because
Bing is their browser andthey're also trying to get

(40:07):
people to search so they canserve their ads and make money
from their ad network.
So it's not really anydifferent, I don't think the
likely outcome.
So what does this mean forSamsung users right now?
Well, first of all, even if,let's say, they were able to get
Google to not own Chromeanymore, they forced them to

(40:28):
sell it.
Even if they didn't bundle theservice with Android, some other
company would maintain chromein a similar fashion to what it
is now.
It just wouldn't work as well.
All year, the google services.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
So that wouldn't be good what about like chromebooks
and stuff like that?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
oh well, they would still be able to run it on that,
because that's their ownhardware okay, they just
wouldn't be able to pre-installit on all android phones.
And all that because they wouldno longer own it.
They could still use chromium.
Chromium is.
They might not be able to callthem.
I don't know if they'd be ableto use the Chrome logo anymore.
There's a lot of implications,but you would still be able to
sideload the Chrome app fromwhoever bought it, because you

(41:05):
can sideload APK on Android, youcan download an app APK and
install it yourself.
That's one of the beautifulthings about Android.
You can't do that on an iPhone.
So if let's say someone elsebought it, let's say in a very
dystopian world, hopefully thisnever comes to fruition.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Hopefully, let's say Elon.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Musk acquires Chrome somehow and he uses it to also
bring all of his optimizedopinions from X to the entire
search sphere Sounds like aterrible dystopian nightmare to
me.
But he's one of the only peoplewith enough money to actually
purchase it.
That's why I'm saying Elon Musk.
There aren't very many otherpeople who could purchase it.

(41:40):
So let's say that he were topurchase it.
If he did, then you know, youwould still be able to download
Chrome and sideload it but alsoin the sense that if he
purchased Chrome, you would nowhave another person who owns
something that's super powerful,because Chrome is used by

(42:01):
everyone, everyone foreverything, right, literally All
their stuff.
So you could still do it, butit just creates a huge, huge
kind of problem.
What I personally see happeninghere's what I think would
happen.
What I personally see happening, here's what I think would
happen.
I don't think that the outcomeof this case is very likely that
Google gets forced to sellChrome.
Because I think a lot of theirlegal arguments are very solid

(42:24):
legal arguments.
That one it would make thebrowser less secure.
It would also then they'd haveto desegment all of Google
services out of there, and a lotof those are closely tied to
Chrome.
They also have hardwareproducts that use the Chrome
branding.
So it would be very difficultto have that be the outcome.
And Google obviously has somevery good lawyers.
They're one of the top fivemost wealthy companies in the

(42:45):
world.
They obviously have very goodlawyers, just like Samsung, just
like Apple, just like Tesla andanyone else.
They have great lawyers.
So they're probably not goingto have that be the outcome.
The more likely outcome.
What I think is I think thatthe DOJ may force and we just

(43:06):
talked about this before thebreak Google to stop exclusivity
agreements with other masscompanies, which means they
would no longer be able to payApple $20 billion to make Chrome
the default search engine onall iPhones, billion to make
chrome the default search engineon all iphones.
So then apple would be able tomake it the default browser or
the default search engine,whatever they want, whatever
would benefit them the most.
In that case, they wouldn't beable to do an exclusivity
agreement anymore, or they wouldjust have to make the default

(43:28):
browser like part of the setupprocess for your phone, like you
choose the browser when you gothrough the setup on your iphone
or whatever.
But if they took away some ofthose exclusivity agreements,
which also might mean, hey,here's the light at the end of
the tunnel for you guys maybe ifsamsung decides they really do
want samsung messages and, as Iassume, maybe google is paying

(43:50):
them to put google messages nowas the default maybe that's part
of a financial agreement, maybethey stopped google from paying
sam Samsung to put Googlemessages as the default in the
US and maybe Samsung says, hey,you know what, it's time to go
back to Samsung messages.
Baby, let's go, let's roll.
You guys will be so pumped.
If that happens.
That could be the endingoutcome of this lawsuit.

(44:11):
That might just make everybodywho's been commenting on my
videos super excited.
You guys might love that.
What do you think about that,tori?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Do you think?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
there's any chance that Chrome is really going to
be sold from Google?
I don't see any chance of thishappening.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I mean like Chrome is literally used with any and
everything tech-wise.
I mean, like even at all theinstitutions I've taught at,
like the go-to is Google Chrome.
I mean it has to be usedeverywhere, and so, no, I don't

(44:45):
think so.
And yeah, like, for how oftenit's used on so many different,
you know, types of devices, ithas to be wickedly expensive.
So, yes, probably Elon Musk isprobably the only person
possible to buy it, maybe, no, Imean honestly, like, I think

(45:08):
for me, like, because actually Iwas just talking about this
with my coworkers yesterdayabout lunch.
You know we were talking about,like, the Apple ecosystem,
because some of them were like,oh, like you know what about if
we transfer to Samsung?
And it's like, ah, but like thegreen messages and stuff like
that, so I can see where they'recoming from, if they're going
to hop down on Apple about, youknow, keeping ecosystems closed

(45:34):
and making sure that you knowkind of like alienating people,
so that way you stay on Apple.
I get it if they're going to dothat for Samsung.
But I just think Chrome is justso awesome and I think it
really does help with the wholepackage of like, at least to an
average consumer.
Most average consumers have aGmail of some sort.

(45:57):
Or again, google Chrome is usedeverywhere, so just being able
to have Jim and I in assistancegoing off in the background here
.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Oh yeah, okay G.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, okay, g no, but just having all that being able
to be connected with my phoneand I'm able to check the same
stuff that I'm able to check onGoogle Chrome and like just kind
of having that whole ecosystem,I will hope that it doesn't go
away and but I think I wouldneed to know, like what grounds

(46:30):
really do they all have to standon in terms of pursuing them?
And again, I know they havereally good lawyers.
They could probably handle this, hopefully.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
I mean you could also make the argument I mean, I'm
not one of Google's lawyers, I'mnot a lawyer at all.
Yeah, I mean, my background ineducation is in math, but you
could almost make the argumentand I bet they will make the
argument that the Chrome logo,which would have to obviously be
sold off with Chrome, is almostmore recognizable as a
representative logo of Googlethan the actual Google logo.

(47:00):
Yes, I think most peopleidentify that logo, the
multicolored red, green, blueand yellow logo.
They think Google when they seethat.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Even more so than just the Google.
Google changes every dayExactly.
You know the thing, so you knowI would be hard-pressed to
where, if you ask, probably likeone of my students, who I mean
because I remember seeing likethe Google, like the colors,
like when I was younger, likewhen, you know, I was first able
to actually like get on theInternet and like search things
up like using Google I'm hardpressed that if you ask one of

(47:32):
my students they would probablybe like what is the colors of
Google, is it?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
just like you know what they see.
If you ask one of my students,they would probably be like what
is the colors of Google?
Is it just like you know whatthey see?
If?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
you ask them what the logo is, they'd probably say
the Chrome logo.
Yeah, yeah, no, I bet theywould tell you that the Google
logo is the Chrome icon.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah, yeah, and so right there is a thing that they
could definitely make anargument to the DOJ, because if
people identify this, then ifyou're selling that, you're also
selling off brand value ofGoogle itself, and then pretty
much no one can afford to buythat.
And still, whoever bought thatwould then also be, like I said,

(48:04):
anti-competitive, because theywould have some vertical
integration with their services,which would create the same
issues that Google has now.
Anybody who could afford topurchase it would also be
facilitating anti-competitivepractices.
That's my opinion anyway.
So we'll see there.
But I mean, you know, like Isaid, this is not the google
podcast, but since they do makeandroid sometimes, we got to

(48:25):
talk a little, a little googleyou know we got to get a little
sometimes we have to get alittle googly, you know, like
that movie with uh vince vaughnand owen wilson where they
become employees.
It's one of my favorites Alittle Google-y action.
Android 16 beta actuallyreleased this week.
Samsung hasn't even releasedthe software that shall not be

(48:47):
named, which is based on Android15.
And Google has already releasedthe developer preview and it's
going off in the background here, very noisy background day to
day.
We were recording the podcastearlier, so there's a little
more action around the buildinghere today.
So if people are wondering,yeah, android 16, already out in
developer preview, so if youhave a Pixel you can go and load
that up.
It's a little buggy.

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I put it on my Pixel 8a.
We have a write-up on SammyGuru outlining the new features
that are coming to Android 16.
We don't know which of thosewill ever come to Samsung, so
you know.
It's just to tell you what'scoming in the Google version of
Android 16, considering we don'teven have one UI based on
Android 15, or which we call thesoftware that shall not be

(49:27):
named.
I'm not going to speculate onthat.
If you want to go read thefeatures, you should.
But, like I said, since we'vealready talked a bunch of Google
, I won't run that down.
Uh, if you have a samsung tablet, this is just a quick one the
clock mode to daily board app,the.
The daily board app is thething where, if you plug in your
tablet I use this on the tabs10 ultra when it's at my desk

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you can display like a night,like a night mode, kind of like
the iphone does this too, abunch of different devices will
and it shows you, like, yourinformation, your weather, your
notifications, whatever.
Uh, now it has a night clock soyou can do this at night.
You can plug in your tablet andit'll have, like you know, big
giant clock there and obviouslyon the tab is 10 ultra.
It's massive tablet, so itlooks like a massive, super huge

(50:10):
clock.
Um, but yeah, you can do thatnow, which is pretty cool.
Uh, what else we got?
One plus is going to make arival to the galaxy Z flipped
series.
Uh, the fan edition, which issupposed to be the cheaper
galaxy Z flip that we talkedabout.
That's going to come in 2025.
So, finally, another company isgoing to enter the clamshell

(50:32):
flip fold market.
Right now we only have tworeally in the U S Samsung and
Motorola.
You've tried the Motorola, youknow it's.
It's pretty nice to have morecompetition, I guess.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I mean, I mean, it drives innovation.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
It does drive innovation.
I mean, I'm curious to seewhat's going to happen with
these clamshell foldables Ifthey're going to make that we
talked about this before thescreen smaller on the outer,
outer side, to make it cheaper.
obviously, make it cheaper yeahif it's going to be a seven or
eight hundred dollar flip, itcan't have the same features as
a thousand or eleven hundreddollar flip.
Um, that's what motorola does,their cheaper version of their

(51:08):
foldable.
They have a cheap one I thinkit's 699 and then they have
their premium one that's 999.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
They have a tiny little ticker screen on the
outside, so I think that'spotentially could be interesting
yeah, like I think um to um, alot of people at my job they're
interested in like the clamshellflip um, but I don't really
hear too many people areinterested in like the actual
fold I think that's because it'smainly enthusiasts.
Yeah, I know, yeah, but I think, though, like you know where

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they're going to make the bangfor their buck is going to be
off the flip.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
It's funny too, because when you pull this out,
like in public, people areimpressed with it.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
If you show someone this in public, like I mean
especially this one, becauseobviously no one's ever seen
this before, because it's one oflike probably 20 of these in
the US, this Z Fold SpecialEdition that I have right now.
If you pull this out, like ifyou're at a cheesecake I was at
a cheesecake factory eating theother day you pull it out and
you're like boom.
People are like whoa, let mecheck that out.
I mean that's been the casesince they started releasing
these, like six years ago.

(52:06):
I had the first one.
I mean the first time.
The person went super insane,actually also was at a
cheesecake factory and thewaitress just like went crazy.
She's like.
She's like what's going on withyour phone?
She's like it folds.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I'm like yeah it's a foldable phone.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
You want to see that again?
I was like check it out, Justclose it, open it and close it
in public a bunch of times.
But, people are impressed withthese.
How much did you pay for thisone?
Oh, $3,000.
And they're like, oh, maybeI'll just keep my regular slab

(52:40):
phone a little bit longer.
Oh, yeah, $3,000 is a littlebit much.
And of course that's not theretail price, this one.
But even if you tell themyou've got a Z Fold 6 and you're
like, oh, I paid $1,000 slabphone Because $1,000 is already
a lot of money to the averageperson, people keep forgetting.

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Like you know, if it's yourhobby, then of course you've
already in your mind you'veallocated discretionary income
to your hobby, just like Toriplays Pokemon.
So in his mind he's alreadylike, he's already like
allocated some of his income tothat hobby because it's
something you do for fun.
And so if tech is your hobby,$1,500 is not a big deal,
because maybe every month youallocate like $100 of your

(53:22):
discretionary income to that,and so in your mind you've
already spent $1,200, so $300more isn't that much.
But if you're not an enthusiastit's not your hobby you're like
$1,500?
Geez, I was like.
I was only thinking I was goingto pay 800 because you know,
six years ago, six years ago,800 was enough for getting a
good phone, and now it's like,oh, it's doubled.

(53:43):
Well, if it's not your interestor your hobby, it's a little bit
of a sticker shock.
Uh, samsung did unveilsomething at SDC Korea.
You know, they didn't unveilwhat you wanted, but they
unveiled something.
Samsung unveiled the Gauss 2 AImodel, which is going to bring
performance and efficiency toGalaxy AI presumably, which we
will see in the software thatshall not be named.

(54:05):
It's coming whenever it comesand also in One UI 7.1 on the
Galaxy S25 Ultra.
So that's great.
I mean we need faster AI.
I was playing around withGalaxy Enhance X today, which is
Samsung's AI-based photo editorapp.
They had an update.
I mean a video on it.
It's a little slow.
They need a little tuning, alittle model, but I mean they're

(54:27):
doing a lot of advanced stuffin these AI models so it takes a
lot of computational power.
It's a lot of work, especially,I mean I didn't even want to
think about how slow thatpotentially that video object
eraser could be, because that'sgoing to require a lot of
computational power to do thatcorrectly.
What else we got?
Trying to read through, weupdated our Galaxy S25 Ultra and

(54:51):
S25, s25 Plus guides.
Samit has done an amazing jobon those.
Those guides are over 5,000words.
Each now has every single leakthat we've compiled over the
last like five months fromGalaxy S25 rumors.
So literally everything youshould possibly learn about
those devices is in thosearticles.
I'll put them in the show notesagain.
I think they're the best on theinternet.

(55:11):
To be honest with you, Ihaven't found anyone any other
site that's compiled the samelevel of information, detail,
rumors about the prices, rumorsabout the features and, of
course, when the phones launch,we'll have all the places you
could buy them and all theofficial info in there.
The Galaxy we already heardthis last week the Galaxy Z Fold
Special Edition 2 couldpotentially this is a rumor that

(55:35):
came out this week that phone,this phone, the sequel to it,
could actually be the trifold.
So the galaxy Z foldspecialization, second iteration
, could be Samsung's trifold.
But here's the bad news.
There's always bad news,unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
There's always a but and the but is if exactly, if
they released the?

Speaker 1 (55:55):
trifold next year, just like this one.
They were testing some techthat was not quite ready for the
global release.
The trifold may be Korea andChina release only, which means
next year around this time youguys will be like Jeff, do you
have $6,000 to import the?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
trifold from Korea.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Because the Huawei trifold Floss paid five grand to
import that, oh really.
And you know that Samsung isgoing to cost more because
there's going to be higherdemand.
Oh wow, sick, so they'reprobably going to be like Jeff,
did you buy that one for sixgrand?
Can we see some videos on it?
And I'll be like I don't know,that's getting up there, guys,
you guys for me to get my moneyback.
Like there has to be abreak-even point.

(56:34):
Can't just be buying $6,000phones if we don't know if we're
making money.
Luckily, I got lucky and I wasthe first one in the entire
English-speaking YouTube techworld to get the Z Fold SE.
So we got lots of views and wemade our money back.
But I can't guarantee that everyyear, so I'd have to think
about that.
Six grand's a lot.
I mean, of course, I would wantto get it first trifold from

(56:55):
Samsung, but that's a.
That's quite a tall, tall taskright there.
What else we got?
Lots of good stuff.
Oh well, I guess I'll mentionthis more Google news.
There's a lot of Google news.
If you use Gemini, you can nowshare files directly to Gemini
on your galaxy phone.
So if you hate Google invadingyour privacy, now you can let

(57:16):
them invade your privacy evenmore by sharing your personal
files in Gemini and trainingtheir AI algorithms on your
private data.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
So if you want to do that, then you have the
opportunity.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I tried it.
It's only for Gemini advancedusers right now.
So, basically, if you want togive data to Google to train
their AI, you have to pay themfor the privilege of doing that,
and then you can get them tohelp you with some of your
documents.
So that is interesting.
Openai I mentioned this earlieris planning to launch their own
browser, as well as, eventually, a search engine, and they're

(57:48):
thinking about partnering withSamsung.
So this could be interesting.
What if Google did have to sellChrome and then Open AI browser
, developed with Samsung,becomes the default on Galaxy
phones?
What if Samsung internetbrowser on Galaxy phones morphs
into the chat GPT browser in thefuture?
That could be spicy.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
No, that will be spicy.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
That would be a very spicy chicken.
That's what I call Blaziken inPokemon.
I call him a spicy chicken.
Yeah, he is he kind of lookslike a chicken, but he's a fire
type.
Yeah, he is.
He kind of looks like a chicken, but he's a fire type.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Spicy chicken so anyway.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I mean that could be very spicy if OpenAI partners
with Samsung to make a browserand then Google did have to sell
Chrome Again.
I'm not saying it's going tohappen.
I said already that's superunlikely.
I would assign the chances ofGoogle being forced to sell
Chrome at less than a tenth of apercent.
It's very very unlikely Now.

(58:41):
Is it very possible they'llhave to break up their
exclusivity agreements, likewith Apple?
I think that's highly likely,which would honestly suck for
Apple more than anything becausethat's a lot of revenue that
they're losing off their iPhonebusiness.
Getting paid $20 billion beforeyou even ship a single iPhone
is a pretty good deal.
You know, even before theyshipped an iPhone 16,.
If you ask Apple how much moneydid you already make off the
iPhone launch before they evensold one, they could say at

(59:03):
least $20 billion.
And if, hey, I could say I made$20 billion off a product
launch before even selling oneproduct.
I'd say that's pretty good.
Google cut us a check to justput Google Chrome on there as
the default browser.
So we already made $20 billionin revenue before even shipping
a unit.
That's pretty good.
That's not a bad deal.
I mean, I think Apple would bedefinitely a loser in that

(59:24):
situation as well.
Oh, galaxy Enhance X.
So I mentioned the GalaxyEnhance X app.
If you don't know about thisstory, it's a separate app.
I know nothing about it, you candownload it from the Galaxy
Store.
We've talked about Galaxyversus Google.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Play.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
I can.
Yeah, you can download it fromthe Galaxy Store and basically
it lets you use Galaxy AI to dovarious things, and one of the
things you can do is now you canimport longer videos and you
have this little timeline.
You can long press on thetimeline and it lets you zoom
into the timeline and you canedit your video in kind of a

(59:54):
more precise fashion.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
I like that.
I'm doing that right now.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
And it has a button to the side where AI will
automatically try to find themost interesting portion of your
video and clip it for socialmedia sharing.
It's kind of hit or miss on theAI thing, but as a video editor
it can do a lot of things.
It can automatically make yourvideo in slow-mo.
It can do long exposure foryour pictures.
It could change the cameraangle, so like if you're looking

(01:00:19):
down at the camera and you'relike, oh my chin's looking a
little thick there, I would likeit to look tilted up, it can
actually use AI to make it sothat the camera angle is tilted
up and so that you're notlooking down, looking all
aggressive.
You're like oh, I look a littlebit nicer there so you can clean
up some stuff.
It now has the ability to addlonger videos and also the long

(01:00:41):
press to zoom in on the videos,so that's pretty cool.
And then two last stories here.
The first one we'll talk aboutis Samsung's ad, which we
watched before the show.
You and I watched it.
They put out a new adcriticizing Apple for lack of
innovation, and it's a prettygood ad, I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I really liked it.
I really feel like this is thekind of ads I would like to see
on a more daily basis.
I feel like it really getsSamsung out there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Yeah.
And so the ad basically startsoff by saying Think different.
And that's Apple slogan, butnot too different, because then
it shows everyone standing inline for the iPhone launch
outside of an Apple store withall of their iPhones lined up,
typing in an iMessage, and theyall kind of look the same.

(01:01:34):
And then the guy's coming outof the Apple store with his
upgraded iPhone 16 pro and he'slike, wow, check out this new
phone.
And he's like what's different?
And he's looking at the backcamera module and he's just like
looking around trying to findthe difference.
And then this lady comes uplooking super confident, like a
late twenties, early thirties,something, uh, very well-dressed
woman, and she opens up hergalaxy Z, fold six, and she's

(01:01:57):
got like three multitaskingwindows.
She's like editing a photowhile sending a text message and
browsing her social feed orwhatever, and, uh, you know, she
closes it into her clamshellfactor and then she's doing a
text message as she's walkingdown the road past all these
people who are just all lookingkind of the same and obviously
she's kind of standing outbecause she's a trendsetter.
And so then it keeps goingsaying Simon says stand in line,

(01:02:19):
simon says upgrade every year,blah, blah, blah, and then at
the end it says Samsung says youknow.
And it's saying Samsung saysyou know, try something
different, et cetera, all thesedifferent pieces.
I don't remember the whole ad,but at the end saying Samsung
says to stand out from the crowd, whereas Apple's saying you do
the same thing every year, youget no upgrades, et cetera.
I like the ad.

(01:02:40):
You said you like these two,tori.
What did you think about the adin general?

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Yeah, no, I really liked the ad and I think I
talked about this before.
I feel like over the last fewmonths, I've seen Samsung step
up their ad game because I thinkeven before I even saw like the
recent one, like no, obviouslyyou know we go to a lot of
movies Like the one that they'vebeen showing in the movies like
can you kick it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yes, you can, or the other one where yes, you can.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I think it was like the google ai and like the guys
like asleep, um, I'm like okay,like those are, those are good
ads because, like before, likeyou, you were never hearing
anything about samsung, younever see their stuff and, like
most stores, kind of like how,on the other side, like you see
Apple and so and you see Appleadvertisements any and

(01:03:30):
everywhere.
So I really like the smart adsthat they're posting where, like
either like the kind of pokingfun or like it's something
that's kind of catchy, that'sgoing to get like the average
users, because I feel like youknow we talked about this before
this is going to get more ofthe average users back into like

(01:03:52):
, uh, you know, buying a lot ofsamsung stuff versus like, um, I
don't think they're reallygoing to win over apple people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
I mean, there could be, there could be some some
tides returning yeah, this wasthe, this was the argument help
you that max we Weinbach madewhen he was a guest on the show
that you know they're notnecessarily going to be poaching
people from Apple.
They just need to focus onkeeping the Samsung audience
they have and bringing back someof those loyal Samsung fans
that may have left for otherAndroid devices like Pixel or

(01:04:23):
OnePlus.
I mean, there's probably notmany of those because OnePlus is
very small.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I know one person that has OnePlus.
I mean, there's probably notmany of those because OnePlus is
very small.
I know one person that hasOnePlus, but basically the Pixel
.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
You know, in the US that's really the other big
competitor in terms of Android.
Motorola is doing some stuff.
They're just still not making abig enough market share for
Samsung to take them seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yeah, I feel like they have to like come back.
I mean, obviously when the Razroriginally was out, they were
dominating.
Yeah, after the Razr.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Honestly, I would like it to go back to 2024 when
I first started YouTube andreally Samsung, lg, htc and
Motorola were all doing bigthings in the Android space and
it was really a lot ofcompetition.
That was great.
I mean obviously it's great nowbecause I cover Samsung and
obviously they're the winners.
They're beating everybody interms of the Android market

(01:05:10):
share.
That's good for me because ithelps my business, but I mean it
was great for consumers wheneveryone was competing, because
obviously when everyone competes, you get a better product and
people are like well, thetechnology has stagnated to a
point where smartphones, yearover year, we don't see big
upgrades.
One of the reasons is becauseApple and Samsung kind of

(01:05:31):
destroyed everyone.
They were like the Terminatorsand they just destroyed every
other company in the US anyway,and so they don't have to do
innovation at a crazy levelbecause their fan base just
keeps upgrading year over year,no matter what they do.
And so you can criticize tm row, you can criticize tim cook for
doing that, but uh, or timapple, as we call him tim apple

(01:05:53):
tim cook.
You can criticize tim cook ifyou want, but at the end of the
day, uh, they're just makingmoney for their companies if
people are going to upgradeanyway and you can have higher
margins because you're puttingless expensive stuff into the
devices.
Well, why not spend less moneyon r and d and then you can
trickle out those featureslonger.
You have a longer extendedproduct upgrade cycle.

(01:06:15):
Back in the day in 2014, if youwere samsung, you couldn't be
holding on to your crazy ideabecause you didn't know if lg or
htc or motorola was about totake that same idea and release
it next month at their launchevent.
And so you had to push out likethe craziest stuff you had right
now or people weren't going tobuy your stuff, cause, like
whatever was the craziest newthing.

(01:06:36):
That's what Android fans wantedback then, cause Android was
about being on the cutting edge.
Apple was still a little moreabout trickling stuff out, but
they also had to be a littlemore aggressive because they
didn't know when Samsung wasjust going to hit them with a
haymaker.
Samsung had some opportunitiesin the early 2010s.
They didn't obviously finishApple off because Apple had a
lot of market share for a lot ofreasons and they're a massive

(01:06:57):
company and they have a loyalfollowing too.
But they had a lot of thingswhere they forced Apple to do
something they didn't want to do.
Apple didn't want to makereally big, giant smart phones,
right.
Samsung forced them to makethose smartphones by making the
Galaxy Note lineup popular.
When the Galaxy Note lineupcame out, all these like Apple

(01:07:18):
fans were like mocking it, likeoh, it's a joke, it's way too
big.
How can you put it in yourpocket?
Ha ha, I would never put a fiveinch phone in my pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
And now we have almost seven inch phones in our
pocket and all the iPhone usersdo too, cause the pro max is the
biggest selling iPhone.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Samsung, you can say whatever you want.
Apple did start the smartphonebusiness basically with the
iPhone, but Samsung pushed themin the direction that.
Necessarily, they didn't wantto go certain directions and
Samsung pushed them there in alot of ways, with camera tech
too, and they were one-uppingeach other back in that time,
right, and so it was a greattime, and that's one of the

(01:07:53):
reasons why things are stagnantyear over year, because if you
don't have to keep doing so muchSamsung has even said as much.
They released that pressrelease we talked about before
they don't see anyone else astheir competition except Apple.
Apple is the only companythey're focused on competing
with, so unless Apple is doingsomething, they don't feel the
need to do it.
All these Chinese OEMs that aredoing stuff, like Oppo, who

(01:08:15):
just had a bigger launch-Samsung's like we don't care.
You guys have better Zoom orbetter resolution Zoom, we don't
care, because your marketingcan't compete with us.
Your software can't competewith One UI.
You don't have a lot of thesame brand identity and brand
value that we have.
We're competing with Apple.
We're in the premium, top tierspace, first class mobile phones

(01:08:36):
.
So anyway, that's kind of theApple Samsung story.
We've talked about it manytimes, but I thought it was
interesting because of this newad, Samsung always taking an
opportunity to take a shot.
And some people will say, well,Samsung needs to get their
innovation together as well.
We've talked about that andthey do need to.
But in my humble opinion, assomeone who covers Samsung all
the time, they still do a hellof a lot more than Apple does to

(01:08:59):
put out the best possibleupgrade every year.
They don't just plug the samestuff out with a new processor
and call it a day.
They at least give you likeanother four to five upgrades
minimum on top of the processorupgrade where they're like.
Here's why you should give us,you know, an extra $500 after
the trade-in value to get a newphone, Cause you know Apple is
just like oh yeah, new processor.

(01:09:19):
We changed the camera a little,but not really.
I mean, it really looks likethe same exact phone.
We just put a new processor init.
You guys want to buy it?
oh, and it comes in rose goldnow, but we call it desert
titanium to trick you intobuying one in that color, which
is what happened to me as those,I don't appreciate that anyway.
Last story, uh, and someonesent this to me on x this

(01:09:41):
morning, I don't remember who itwas um, one of our listeners,
slash readers and uh, yahoolaunched a brand new launched.
Yahoo released a new launcher.
They launched a launcher, uh,and a launcher, of course, on
android for tory.
If you don't know, your samsungphone comes with the one ui
launcher, which is basicallywhat you let you get into your
app drawer and everything likelike your app drawer yeah that's

(01:10:03):
the launcher.
You can install a third-partylauncher that will give it like
a different look and feel likeyou can install.
Like nova action preset yeah,yeah it is, but you can actually
change it if you go intosettings, so like right now like
that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
That was the launch, that's the launcher.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
So if you go, into your settings and you search for
default apps.
Where it says choose defaultapps, yeah, one of the default
apps you can choose.
When it says choose defaultapps is right here, it says home
app.
You can change this and you canchoose.
When it says choose defaultapps is right here, it says home
app.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
You can change this and you can install other
third-party apps and it willchange the way your app drawer
looks and behaves on your homescreen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
And so one of the most popular ones is called Nova
Launcher.
It's very good and I used touse it on a lot of phones, but
since I review Samsung, I'malways looking at One UI and I
stick with the stock launcherfor the most part.
But yahoo already has anotherlauncher that they own, which is
kind of funny.
Um, they bought aviate launcherback in 2014 for about 80

(01:10:56):
million dollars, so yahoo doesown a launcher and now they made
another one called yahoolauncher.
I can only assume that this isto like get them more search
traffic.
Probably yeah.
So we tried it this morningbecause someone sent it to me
and it was so bad that I feltcompelled to may have one of our
writers write up an article onit.
I tried it on three differentphones on the z-fold se, the s24

(01:11:17):
ultra and my galaxy s24 febecause it's like a mid-ranger
it crashes as soon as you likeswipe up into the app drawer on
all of the phones and, like I,took screenshots.
It took me like 15 minutes totake these screenshots because I
had to try to get it to stopcrashing.
This is what the app drawerlooks like on yahoo launcher.
It's right there.
You see the little guy, theyahoo logo, up there, and then,

(01:11:37):
of course, if you go to thesearch bar, guess what?
You get a bunch of trendingyahoo searches which you can
then click and search on Yahoo.
So they're trying to get theirad business and search volume up
, trying to take some fromGoogle.
But we wrote this article as aPSA and the reason I'm putting
it in the podcast is to tell you, if you saw this and you were
thinking about trying it, do nottry it yet.

(01:11:59):
I'm not saying that you.
I mean if you want to try itlater.
It doesn't have malware onanything in it, it's just
they're just trying to get makesome money off yahoo search and
maybe, if you like the ui, youcould try it later.
But wait for a couple versionsbecause it is garbage.
Like it's slow, it crashesalmost on the fold se.
It doesn't work at all.
Like you can't even swipe intothe app drawer.

(01:12:19):
If you try to swipe up, itcrashes automatically.
I could finally get it to run alittle bit on the S24 Ultra to
take the screenshots, but everytime you go into the app drawer
and you try to scroll, itbasically crashes back out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
It takes you back home screen Swiping it.
Yeah, so don't give this a try.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
I know a lot of our audience are enthusiasts and
they like to try new apps.
So if you saw this, you mightbe like maybe I should try it.
Try to save you some time,Don't waste your time.
Once it's stable-ish, maybeI'll do a video on it at some
point, Because people keepasking me.
We've talked about this fast onthe show and this is a question
I get literally every week,since we're towards the end of
the podcast.

(01:12:57):
Question we've had from thebeginning of this podcast is
when is the vertical app drawercoming back to One UI and HomeUp
?
No one knows.
They can't even get thesoftware that shall not be named
released in beta form.
So how can we possibly knowwhen they're going to release
the HomeUp update for GoodLockto get the vertical app drawer
that's supposed to come afterthat software update that we're

(01:13:18):
not talking about?
So I have no idea.
I mean, the vertical app drawercould take until the middle of
2025 at this point, because theydon't even have stable next
platform release and it's noteven beta.
So if you want a vertical appdrawer, your best bet right now,
honestly, is to install athird-party launcher Not this

(01:13:38):
one, though.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Don't install the Yahoo launcher, install like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Nova or Apex or Action Launcher those are all
good and if you really want avertical app drawer, I've
considered it.
I just cover one UI so I feellike I need to use the stock
launcher so I can report onperformance or updates.
But I've considered installinga third-party launcher Nova onto
one of my phones maybe my Foldor something because I hate the
horizontal app drawer too.

(01:14:03):
I'm with you guys.
I do not like having to scrollhorizontally.
It's so much easier just toflick my finger up and it
scrolls through the whole list.
Yeah, like when you have abunch of apps I have to go like
so far over because I've got aton of apps on my phone Because
I review all these things.
Your apps are living and ofcourse, I organize them in
folders.
People are like, oh, youorganize them in folders?
Well, yeah, but sometimes Idon't want every app in a folder

(01:14:25):
and with the vertical one I canget right where I'm trying to
go instantaneously.
So that's pretty much it that Ihad.
We want to wish everybody ahappy Thanksgiving.
If you guys celebrateThanksgiving here in the US is
next week, I will be postingthis, probably Tuesday before
Thanksgiving, so you guys canenjoy it over the break.

(01:14:45):
We will not have a podcast thefollowing week, um, because
we're going to just take off theweek for thanksgiving.
Just kind of enjoy.
We've.
We've done 22 episodes here ina row without a break.
That's pretty impressive.
I'm pretty happy with that yeah,um, by the end of the year we
should have 25 episodes in thecan.
That's's pretty good for aSamsung show.

(01:15:06):
You know, if you look at theother Android shows out there,
honestly there aren't that manythat are done consistently at
the level that we do them.
That's my personal opinion ofthe quality of what we put out
every week.
Of course, we're not justAndroid in general or Samsung
specific, but All About Androidis the only other really long
running Android specific podcastthat I really feel like.
You know.
Obviously they've been doing itfor so long and I love their

(01:15:27):
stuff.
You guys should listen to them.
But really appreciate you guyssupporting us.
We'll be back, probably.
What day will that be?
Tuesday will be the 26th nextweek, so we won't have a podcast
on the third.
We'll be back on the 10th, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Yeah, the 10th.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
So I have one on the 10th, and then we will have a
podcast presumably on the 17th,and then also, I probably won't
post it Christmas Eve.
I'll try to get it out the daybefore.
It's probably Monday that week,because I'm not going to edit a
podcast on Christmas Eve, butwe will record one.
I think that previous week Toriand I decided so the 23rd will
be a podcast, uh, and then weshould be good from there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Hopefully, so we're going to take off this week
thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
We're going to recharge, we're going to come
back, and when we come back,when we come back, there better
be something in my samsungmembers app the next time that I
jump on this podcast, mike,when I fire up my Rodecaster duo
and Tori and I sit at thistable to record.
In two weeks there better besomething special in my Samsung

(01:16:32):
members app that I can downloadand run that has the number
seven.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
But it can't be fully named.
But it can't be fully named.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
That better happen because that's a long time from
now.
December 10th is a long timefor the next podcast after this
one to go live.
Samsung has plenty of time.
Let's make it happen.
Anything else to say to ourpeople for Thanksgiving here?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
No, just I really hope you guys you know, for
those who do celebrate have avery good Thanksgiving and get
out there, do some Black Fridayshopping as well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Oh yeah, Make sure you use the Sammy Guru affiliate
links in the show notes.
We've got guides for everything.
It's a good thing you remindedme, Tori.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Oh yeah, the most important thing is the first
time.
Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
But after that, if you're going to shop for Samsung
items, make sure you use allthe Sammy Guru affiliate links
which you can find.
We wrote a guide on Samsungphones, samsung buds and watches
, samsung galaxy books, samsungappliances.
We have five different guidesthat Sumit wrote on Sammy Guru.
They have all the best deals.
We're going to be updating themthroughout next week.
So if you need to buy any ofthose things and, let's be

(01:17:34):
honest, you do you need at leastone, but probably multiple of
those items.
Support the show Doesn't evencost you anything.
Just use our affiliate link andwe can keep bringing you the
great Samsung coverage we do.
And while you're doing that,make sure to keep expanding your
galaxy.

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