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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everybody.
This is episode number 20 ofthe Sammy Guru podcast.
My name is Jeff Springer.
With me always is my co-host,tori.
Tori say hi, hey, how's itgoing?
And yeah, 20 episodes Wow 20episodes.
I can't believe we actuallymade it to 20.
That's crazy.
No-transcript.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
So yeah, we really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
We have a lot of fun doing the podcast too.
Tori, how was your week thisweek, I mean?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
honestly I want to say it was pretty good.
I only had to work Mondaythrough Thursday I mean, I still
the word Friday but it was oneof those days where we don't
have students.
We were allowed to just mostlyfocus on grades, kind of talk as
a team with other teachers whoalso teach geometry with me.
So yeah, it was pretty relaxing.

(00:55):
My team, my high school team,is making it to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
We were able to defeat oh yeah, you told us they
had the opportunity to do thatlast week.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, Just about a blowout.
Some point they got a touchdown.
I want to say, like in thethird quarter, the other team,
but up until then we were like27 and zero.
Uh, up until that point, um,and so yeah, I know so, so good
stuff, and then just pokemon andper usual, and that's it yeah,
so when do they play theirplayoff game?

(01:24):
uh, so, uh, we're gonna, I thinkit the we skip a week and then
it's the Friday.
I might have to come check itout with you, just fun, it's not
like a little high schoolfootball, at least when I'm
invested in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So if you let me know where it is, maybe I'll come
check out the football.
Yeah, we'll do.
Tori and I are both Pokemonfans.
He plays the game.
I'm more collected because Ijust don't have time.
I played when I was younger,when I was in middle school and
high school.
I played Pokemon TCG when itfirst kind of came out you know
1998, because I'm super old, soI played it when I first arrived

(01:55):
on the scene and then I kind oftook a break, got back into it
a couple different times and nowI've kind of been into
collecting.
I collect mostly vintage stuff,but some of the modern sets
have tempted me.
I was a huge fan of HiddenFates.
I opened a lot of that, andthen I also opened quite a lot
of the other, like special shinyvault sets, like Shining Fates

(02:15):
stuff, but then for the terms ofbooster boxes recently, of
course, evolving Skies, I openedsome of that.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I wish I would have saved all that, because that's I
do still have a few boosterboxes that sealed um, and yeah.
So how are you liking the newset anyway, tori?
Uh, I mean so far, you know,with it being this is the first
week because I I did participatein the pre-release uh, I
actually like the, the the newset.
Uh, the executor ex I rememberthat was always an interesting

(02:43):
pokemon when I was a kid, a partof the original 151.
So it's really cool that he isgetting some EX love and I mean,
but other than that, the poolrates are actually pretty hard.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, we were talking about that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
So I do enjoy the set , but also it's really hard to
get some of the good cards inthere.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
And I don't think the pricing on the special edition
special art Pikachu is going tobe able to be sustained, Because
I looked on eBay last nightbecause I didn't pull one when
me and Jonathan opened our boxand I was thinking I was just
buying one.
The prices on the raw ones arecrazy.
Now they're like $500, $600.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
They've almost doubled.
're like three to five to six,you know yeah and the psa 10s
are selling for like three grand.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
So that's not gonna, that's not gonna continue
because I remember when thechunky rainbow pikachu v max
came out.
Remember that card.
Yeah, that card was selling forthese price too, and now you
can buy a psa 10 for, like, Ithink, three hundred dollars
maybe 250, even, it's like quitedown there so, uh, I would say,
if you are a Pokemon fan withmodern, the thing is, you've got
to wait a little bit to see.

(03:48):
I'm not saying you shouldn'tnecessarily buy a raw copy,
because you probably won'toverpay too much for a raw copy.
If you find a good raw copy youcould grade.
If you want to grade it, whichis what I want to do with it,
buy it Probably still cheaperthan ripping product to get it,
because it's so hard to pullthat you're gonna have to buy
like three or four cases.
You'll spend three, four grand.
Pull your own raw copy.
Yeah, of course you'll get someother cards, but you probably

(04:09):
will lose money in the long runwhen you do that.
Um, tory back actually thinkingabout starting our own little
youtube channel ripping somepokemon products.
So if you guys like that kindof stuff, you know I'm always
thinking of other fun stuff Ican do now that I'm a full-time
creator.
I I love Samsung, but I'm like,why limit myself to do that?
I can do other fun stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Alabama got a big win .
Yeah, I know, I saw that.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Massive, just destroyed LSU.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I know they were talking about all that stuff
Like oh Alabama, we're going todestroy that winning streak of
theirs.
But no, the tide came through.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I honestly think that Nick Saban must have sat Kalen
Dayboard down after theTennessee loss in his office.
Because Saban saw his officeand said hey, man, you realize
this is Alabama, right?
If you lose another game, youwon't be coaching here next
season.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
He's probably like you understand.
Three losses here isunacceptable.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
He's like I haven't lost three games in like 15
years.
So if you lose three games,you're probably looking for a
new job.
And so Kalen Dayboard is likeokay, we're going to go back to
the saving way.
Super disciplined, you guysneed to show up 30 minutes early
for meetings, no BS.
And they look like a good team.
They could beat anybody, likethey played the other night.
If they play like that, ifJalen Milrow plays like that, if

(05:14):
the defense plays like that,they could beat anybody in the
country.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Moving on to Samsung news.
Before we get into the officialnews, my personal samsung news
this week.
Two things.
One talking about z foldspecial edition last week.
Is it going to come guess whatit is out for delivery today?
it is in phoenix and on thefedex truck, my z fold special
edition has arrived.
It's cleared customs from koreaand it is here.
Uh, me and tori are going toget some lunch out of the

(05:41):
podcast I'm debating.
If it's here and check with my,I may go home and get it so I
can make an unboxing video andget it up, because I'm excited
to check it out.
But if not definitely tomorrow,which will be Tuesday, we're
recording this on Veterans Daybecause Tori has a day off from
school, so we figured we'd justhave a chill kind of recording
on a Monday.
I don't think we've ever done aMonday recording, so it's our

(06:01):
first ever.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Monday recording.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
The other news is, if you guys are looking for some
deals on Samsung stuff Samsungand their affiliate program
they're giving us special accessto early Black Friday pricing
for our viewers, readers,podcasts, listeners.
We did a full roundup on SammyGrew and I'll link it in the
show notes as well.
Basically, anything you wantGalaxy Ring, galaxy Tab, s10,
ultra, z, fold 6, you get anextra $100 bonus, samsung credit

(06:26):
with a lot of those which youcan only get through our links
or anyone's affiliate links.
But if you want to support us,you can get that extra deal.
You can't get it on the Samsungsite.
If you go there directly, youalso get increased trade-in
values.
And the other thing is we'regoing to talk more about the
Galaxy Ring 2 later becauseSamsung's apparently already
working on that, but just lastweek we noticed this before we

(06:47):
wrote up the deals post.
Samsung has now started atrade-in program for the Galaxy
Ring.
At launch, you could not tradein anything to get a ring.
It was full cost.
You couldn't trade in, therewas no discounts.
But now they have allowed youto trade in an old smart ring
from other manufacturers andthey're giving pretty good
trade-ins.
So if you have an old Aura ringor something like that.
You get $100 towards yourGalaxy ring and you can now also

(07:10):
use the education workplacediscount.
So technically, if you want aGalaxy ring, you want to buy one
for a gift for the holidays,you can save $100.
If you do a trade-in, you canprobably even buy one on eBay.
Smart rings don't resell for alot necessarily, so if you
bought a cheap one like old Auraring on eBay, trade it in
Probably could get that extramoney, and then you also get the
educational workplace discount.
You could get one for like $250instead of $400.

(07:32):
At $250, I feel like the Galaxyring is a much more palatable
price for most people.
$400 is a lot for sleeptracking, but $250, if you're in
the Galaxy ecosystem, may begood.
So we did a full roundup.
Of course we'll have a lot moredeals post because everybody
will be buying stuff in the nextfew weeks because it's leading
up to Black Friday.
Huge announcement coming aswell in a couple weeks about our

(07:53):
brand new brand that we arestarting here, our own case
brand.
I've teased it a couple timeson the podcast that will be
launching during Black Fridayweek.
So we'll be talking more aboutthat and make sure you stay
tuned.
Follow us on X, facebook, allthat stuff, if you want to hear
more about that.
But let's dive into the news.
I guess Last week we talkedabout the Galaxy S25 Slim and

(08:17):
one of the things that me andTori were concerned about was
how good are the cameras goingto be on the S25 Slim?
Will it be similar to the Plusor the base model?
Certainly it couldn't be theUltra cameras.
We were wrong.
A new rumor suggests this weekfrom Ice Universe that the

(08:39):
Galaxy S25 Slim could indeedpack the 200 megapixel primary
camera sensor from the ultra,the s25 ultra, which would mean
that in terms of hardware itwould actually have more in
common with the ultra cousin,sibling brother, whatever than
the base and the plus models.
This still doesn't really sayanything here about what the

(09:00):
screen size would be, which tome seems to be interesting.
But here's a little tidbit that,uh, sumit, our head writer over
at Sammy Guru, mentioned to me,and he's right.
I didn't actually think aboutit.
The model number on the specialedition is SMS937, which is
just one less than the UltraSMS938.
Usually Samsung sequentiallynumbers the models by increasing

(09:24):
size, so the fact that it's 937would suggest that it's going
to be closer to the Ultra thanthe base or the plus.
So Sumit did a little detectivework.
I should have thought aboutlooking at the model number too,
but I'm sometimes so busy witheverything I do.
He mentioned this to me when wewere chatting in our Slack
channel when he was about towrite this up and I was like,
yeah, you're right.
So this could be interesting.

(09:45):
It could have a screen sizealmost as big as the ultra,
thinner than the ultra, uh,which probably means no s-pin
camera is almost the same as theultra and we have to imagine
although we haven't seen a full,you know, leak of this yet
battery is probably going to beslightly smaller, but it could
be close to the size of theUltra.
So this would kind of fillsomething we've told Samsung

(10:08):
maybe they should do and wetalked about on the podcast
before a Ultra S phone thatdoesn't have the S Pen.
Basically, we'd be going backto the days of the Note versus
the regular S phone, because theSlim would just be the regular
S phone and now the Ultra wouldbe the Note.
Right, don't you think that'swhat Samsung's trying to do?
They're basically trying to goback to having the Note and the

(10:28):
regular S large S model, withoutactually separating it into two
separate parts of the year,because they used to do the Note
later and then the S modelearly.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Don't you think that's kind of?
Do you think this would be atthe same time, or would this be
released separately?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
So this year at least it looks like the Slim might
release like a quarter, thatmeans like the second quarter of
the year fiscal quarter, Marchto June, which would still be
earlier than they used torelease the Note, because that
used to be in August orSeptember.
Certainly they can't release itin August or September because
the foldables launch around thattime now.
So that would be too crowded.

(11:01):
We kind of mentioned this lastweek.
Maybe they're going to go toone launch every three months
Big S launch in January, Slim inJune, or whatever May or June,
even April, and then July thefoldables and then the end of
the year maybe they would do theFE and maybe they'll do the fan

(11:23):
edition version of thefoldables, Because there's also
a rumor that we might get alower price foldable.
What do you think about theSlim if it has ultra cameras?
Because you I don't know, youuse the S Pen, Would you?
be, tempted to go Slim.
Personally, me, I'm going tosay no, probably not.
I'd get one to review, butprobably, speaking for myself, I

(11:43):
still think the battery isgoing to be smaller and the
thermals are going to be worse.
I think the battery life willbe slightly worse, um, and also
I use the s-pen a lot, so thes-pen's certainly not going to
be there.
If it's slim because you've gotto reduce this inside size of
it but what do you think?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
well, which one would you be tempted by if they both
let's assume they both releaseat the same time, because
obviously this one's going to belater oh yeah, um, honestly,
I'm so ingrained with the s-penI would choose the model that
has the s-pen.
Now I wouldn't be turned awayfrom not having the s-pen.
I think more of my concernwould be, uh, with it being so

(12:18):
close to the ultra.
Uh, you know, because I'm kindof looking under the lens of,
okay, how many unit or how manydevices would they actually sell
with the slim versus the theultra?
Only thinking about, like,let's say, for like, sony, when,
like, when they release a newplaystation, like a few months
later, then they'll, they willrelease the slim, but I feel

(12:41):
like sales aren't as strong forthe slim.
Obviously people still buy theslim, um, but you know, in
relation to buying the fullpackage when it, when it
initially comes out, the way I'mthinking for the ultra, uh, do
you agree with that?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
yeah, I think that's I agree with you entirely.
I think, uh, in general, as astrategy, this it does keep the
product fresh in people's minds.
But you got to remember thepeople who are hardcore
enthusiasts, most of them aregoing to want it now.
So if they're like, well, theSlim and the Ultra are almost
the same except one's thinner,most enthusiasts are just going

(13:15):
to be like, well, I still wantthe S Pen too.
They're going to buy it inJanuary because they want it
earlier.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
They don't want to wait until.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Q2.
And so none of those people,now anybody who buys the phone
in January, at least for anaverage consumer.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I'm not talking about me, because I'll buy a slim
obviously because that's becauseI need to make views.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, but an average person yeah they're not going to
buy a phone in January and buyanother one in April and be like
oh look, it's a little thinner,I'm going to get this one.
That's not going to happen,right?
Samsung presumably wouldn'tannounce the slim during the
event in January, so peoplewouldn't even know that it's
coming.
If they did that, it mightchange it a little bit, but then
you would slow down your ultrasales.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, because they were like, oh, I don't want to
get that, I'm going to just waita little bit longer.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, it could cannibalize the sales on the
ultra, so I don't actually know.
It's a very interesting dynamicin terms of how you market this
, in terms of, like, how youmarket this, price it and just
figure out how you're going togo about it.
I'm not sure exactly whatsamsung will choose to do there,
but for me personally and Ithink it sounds like you too I'm
going to buy the ultra anyway.
Uh, like I said, I definitelyknow that a lot of people who

(14:17):
are enthusiasts will do the samething, so there'll be some
people will buy it.
Like you said, it's kind oflike when apple also goes ahead
and releases like a new color ofthe iPhone.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Like down a few months down the road.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
That's all they ever do, because they're like we
can't be bothered to make anyactual hardware modifications.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Like Samsung, they're just likeah.
So let's slap a new color on it.
Don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
They're into making a new model samsung could
potentially lose money.
So I do understand, like if youjust change the color, that's
pretty easy manufacturingprocess if you already have the
machines to make it.
Changing the color is one smallpiece, whereas changing all the
components you know thethickness of the device is
interesting.
I mean, I do think it's greatit's going to have the ultra
cameras.
To be honest with you, if itdidn't have the ultra cameras I

(15:11):
kind of feel like the productwould have been even more dead
in the water because almost noone would have considered
waiting for it, even if they'rean enthusiast.
I hate to always bring like.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
The people think I'm sexist, but some women might be
interested in this because womenwe've talked about this before
you know they don't have thesame pant size as we do.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
They don't have pockets and so they don't want a
big bulky phone necessarily.
Because some women's we a lotof women wear skinny jeans.
Some men do too hey, nojudgment.
But most more women, I wouldsay, than men wear skinny jeans
and so they don't want a bigbulky phone necessarily in their
pocket.
Maybe they want a big screen,but they want less.
You know thick, and they alsowant it thinner, and also not

(15:51):
only that, but they might wantto be a little lighter yeah um,
it also slips into their purse.
You know, park back, pockettheir purse, whatever, a little
bit easier, I guess.
Um, I don't know, I mean theymight be interested in it, but I
don't see the hardcore samsungenthusiast going this route no,
I see them going for the yes man.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I feel like most I mean people like you, jeff, who,
like, are gonna buy it, likeyou know these, regardless, you
know for reviews, and say, like,obviously they're gonna get the
sales, uh, but I think mostenthusiasts will probably go for
the ultra and I think most, uh,average consumers will probably
go for the Ultra.
I mean, obviously, becausethey're not going to announce

(16:27):
the Slim at the event.
Yeah well, they could.
I mean, I don't know, but ifthey did.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
that would make it more interesting, because then
maybe some people would wait,but I still don't think that
many people will.
The real test would be maybethe next year, if they decide to
do it two years in a row,because then people would know
that it's coming.
And so then people have tothink like in january.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
They have to be like am I going to get the ultra?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I'm going to get the slim later, because yeah, like
we said, most people are notgoing to be buying two phones.
Unless you're super enthusiast,who also happens to be very
rich, you're not going to buytwo.
These are probably going to be12 to 1300 phones.
Yeah, you know, because I wouldimagine we talked about this
last week.
We don't have any leaks aboutthe pricing yet, but would
imagine the pricing on the Slimis going to be pretty similar to

(17:06):
the Ultra.
Yeah, probably If not, you know,it could potentially be more.
I don't think it could be, Idon't think it would be more.
But I also, like we said lastweek, I still think it's kind of
weird having it called Slim.
And also, here's another rumor.
Actually, I forgot about thisone while we're talking about
this.
I didn't put this on the shownotes, but samit wrote this last
night.
It turns out there's another uhrumor that said they are

(17:30):
struggling to get the s25 slimto be as thin as they want while
can, while maintaining asubstantial battery capacitor
capacity.
Sorry, capacitor, the fluxcapacitor.
We're going back to the futurein this episode of the Sammy
Guru podcast.
So Apple is facing similarchallenges and this rumor came
out saying that they might notbe able to get it quite as slim

(17:53):
as they want because they don'twant to reduce the battery life,
which we were just talkingabout.
Sumit just published this lastnight and I just saw it as I was
flipping through the site.
He just published it before werecorded the podcast.
He just published it before werecorded the podcast and it
seems that because of this, theymay only release this in a
limited market as well, justlike they did the Z Fold Special
Edition, because they might notbe able to get the yield rate

(18:15):
that they want the volume withthe slim profile.
They might test it again.
So it's possible that if you'rethinking about this in the US,
don't necessarily wait pastJanuary to buy one, because it
could end up only in China andKorea.
Yeah, and then you'll be supersad, you'll be like, oh, I
didn't buy the S25 Ultra, nowI'm waiting, you're waiting,
you're waiting.
It's April, it's May, it's June.

(18:36):
It's like, ah well, you couldbuy it in Korea and China only.
And so then, obviously, theaverage person is not going to
buy it because the bands aren'tgoing to work.
Like I said, no one shouldimport a Z Fold Special Edition
either, unless you're using itfor my purposes of just
demonstrating to people andreviewing it.
It's not going to workperfectly.

(18:58):
5g is not going to work, sothis is interesting.
Another rumor.
So we might not even see thefull launch, which would be
disappointing for sure.
All right, continue to talkabout more S25 stuff.
I feel like it's kind of like aredux of last week.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I feel like it's deja vu, because we're talking about
some of the same stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
But this time of year it's like the rumors are going
to start getting superaccelerated about S25 stuff,
because we're only about twomonths away from launch.
We're going to start having alot of S25 stuff to talk about
and we do have more Galaxy S25color options.
Last week we talked about thestandard color options that will
be available everywhere, likethe carriers and stuff, and we

(19:36):
said last week that eventuallythe Samsung exclusive online
options would eventually leak in.
Just only a week later, we hadto wait, here they are we have
them.
So let me tell you about the newoptions.
According to Ross Young, who isa display analyst in the mobile
industry, he's very reliable,kind of like Ice Universe.
He has a lot of sources andcontacts along the supply chain

(19:59):
for the various manufacturersused, like Apple and Samsung.
Various manufacturers use likeApple and Samsung.
He says the Galaxy S25 and S25Plus will be available through
Samsung's website in coral, red,pink, gold and blue, slash
black shades and the Galaxy S25Ultra, samsung exclusive colors
will be titanium blue black,titanium jade green and titanium
pink gold.

(20:20):
Now, of course this is all ofthe color options that would be
available for Samsung exclusiveonly.
I'll remind you guys, last weekwe talked about the standard
colors for the S25 and S25 Pluswould be Moon Knight, blue,
silver Shadow, sparkling Greenand Sparkling Blue, and the Plus
model will also get a MidnightBlack shade.
The Samsung options for thestandard options on the s25

(20:44):
ultra titanium black, titaniumblue, titanium silver and
titanium gray.
Now, very interesting here, asyou said you said it as I was
talking the titanium jade greenfor the s25 ultra.
That's the one that stands outto me and I'm not trivializing
the s25, s25 plus, it's justthat I'm more interested in the
ultra.
We'll talk about those in morein a second.

(21:05):
That sounds like the color thatI want.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
What do you think about that, tori?
Oh same, like we don't get awhole lot of green colors, I
think when I initially wasbuying the S22 Ultra, I was
wanting to have like a greencolor there, but they're all
sold out.
All I could get was theburgundy, uh, and so I'm hoping

(21:28):
to make my redemption.
Yeah, tori's gonna redeemhimself in january.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
The s25 ultra.
Um, yeah, so last week we weretalking about it because we saw
that the s25 and s25 plus someof the standard colors were
sparkling green.
I was like I mean, I really wantthat sparkling green on the s25
ultra and so it looks likesamsung will give us that as a
Samsung exclusive option.
So just to remind you guys,with the Samsungcom exclusive
options, that means that if youbuy them from your carrier, like

(21:50):
Verizon, t-mobile, at&t, in thestore or you buy it through
your carrier website, you won'tbe able to get those options.
You'll need to go to Samsungcom, use Samsung's website directly
to purchase a Samsung exclusivecolor.
If you want one of those colors, which is again for the Ultra,
the titanium jade green, theblue black and the titanium pink

(22:10):
gold, which I think a lot ofthe ladies will be happy about
that, oh yeah, because theladies like the pink gold and if
you're a guy and you like it,that's great too.
But my wife has been saying fora while like why do they not
have pink every year as anoption for the Ultra?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I feel like they're going to get in the female
customers for sure.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I feel like they're going to like that.
And also on the S25 and S25Plus we've got coral red and
pink gold, so that's actuallytwo, because coral red is like
closer to a pinkish red, so thatmight be like two shades of
pink, almost like, if you wantthe smaller phones that you'd be
able to explore.
The titanium blue black alsoseems very interesting to me,
like bluish black.

(22:47):
I don't know how that's goingto look.
It could be like a darkish blue, maybe.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like that's what I'm picturing,
and I'm picturing like the jadegreen to be either like I think
it's going to be a brightergreen than like the military.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
green is what the S22 Ultra had.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, by Like the military green is what the S22
Ultra had.
Yeah, by throwing in that jade,I'm thinking like it's brighter
.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I'm hoping it's closer to like the sparkling
green that's going to be on theS25 and S25 Plus, and the
blue-black should be interesting.
I'm curious to see how thatlooks, but the jade green seems
like the one that I would go forthe most.
Yeah, like I said, make surethat if you want one of those
exclusive colors, you go throughsamsungcom.
The other thing that you canI'll remind you shameless plug
is if you go through samsungcom,you can also get a free mystery

(23:27):
box from Sammy Guru.
All you have to do is sign upfor our mystery box list and we
will send you a text message aswell as an email if you put in
your phone number and email onlaunch day, the morning of
launch with the links.
You actually get the linksearly because I have them ready
to go right when they're live,so I push them out.
You don't have to go to theSamsung site and be clicking

(23:48):
around.
We'll automatically link you tothe product pages and we've got
some huge surprises this timeFree case cleaning kit, all that
stuff.
This time you'll be able todesign your own case through our
case brand, so you'll actuallybe able to pick your own design.
You won't have to take apre-made design that we randomly
chose, like we've done in thepast, and a lot of other cool
accessory surprises this time.

(24:08):
So that's the other benefit.
Now I also want to remind you,because a lot of people don't
realize this and I've said itbefore if you want to buy one
through your carrier on apayment plan, you can still do
that through Samsungcom.
A lot of people think, oh well,I can't get the mystery box or
I can't get the exclusive colorsbecause I want to buy it
through the AT&T or the T-Mobilemonthly payment plan.

(24:29):
That's not true.
You could just go to Samsung.
They have the carriers listed.
Just click on AT&T or T-Mobileand go through it and it will
automatically go and take youthrough the process of signing
the installment agreement withyour carrier.
It connects to your carrier'swebsite.
Then you still get yourexclusive color, so you don't
have to be limited to the colorsthat they have on the carrier
websites.
You could get that titaniumjade green and you could get the

(24:52):
mystery box too.
So you get both of those thingsand then you can still use your
payment plan.
You don't have to pay up front,because a lot of people don't
want to pay up front.
I understand it's a veryexpensive purchase and some
people want to spread it outover the payments.
So you can still do that, soyou can get those exclusive
colors.
But I'm highly thinking aboutit this year.
I have to see if we're going tohave the budget.
I've wanted to do it for a whilebecause there's a guy who used

(25:13):
to do it.
I forgot who it was DetroitBorg.
He used to unbox every color ofthe new iPhone.
He would buy every color.
I'm thinking about doing thatthis year just to see how the
video does.
Uh, very risky somewhat.
I could lose a lot of money,but not that risky because I'm
not going to keep all of them.
Obviously I'm going to sellthem.
Probably I'm only going to keepone of each type per view.

(25:35):
I would sell the other colorson swapper or something like
that afterwards.
So I don't lose that much money, but I mean still gonna have to
sell them as used, so I'd haveto lose.
I lose a little, but that guyused to get millions of views on
that type of video and so if Iget the millions of views then I
would actually make a lot ofmoney.
So it's like lose a little ormake a lot.
Those are the kind of gamblesyou have to take.
So if you guys would beinterested in seeing an Every

(25:56):
Color Unboxing of S25 stuff, letme know.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm about it, been tossing around the idea what do
you think, tory, should I doevery color unboxing?
Heck, yeah, yeah, just like putall the colors out and be like
let's check these colors out.
Yeah, yeah, I think you knowtoo because, like, I know a lot
of people uh, at least for theaverage consumer like, like when
they see where they read thecolors and then versus like when
they actually go in store tolike get it.
I feel like this will also helpin their decision of like, oh,
oh, okay, I can see myselfrocking this particular color.
Yeah, I think people like it.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Even though, it's like you know, people want to
see reviews.
People also do take the colorinto account.
A lot of people who areenthusiasts are like, well,
that's not that big of a dealbecause you put a case on it
anyway.
It actually is a big deal tothe average person in general.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, because, like we said, it's an investment.
Yeah, because, like we saidit's an investment.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, it's like you're going to be looking at
that for a long time and eventhough a lot of people do rock a
case and I do a lot of peoplelike to take their phone out of
the case when they're at home.
Like I'm not saying on thecouch, I don't use it with the
case, I take it off you know,and also just like to look at my
case.
So, like, I got my orange S24Ultra, like this is a nice color

(27:05):
, um, and so, you know, somepeople do take the case off
their phone and admire the case,you know, uh, at the end of the
day.
So I think it's important.
I think colors do matter to theperson who is buying a phone
and keeping it for three years.
Um, whether or not, if you buya phone every year, maybe it
doesn't matter to you because,like, I'll just pick a new color
next year, but if you'rekeeping it three to four years,
it's a pretty big deal.
Um, the s25 ultra is getting anoverclocked version.

(27:27):
Going into the more technicalside of the release, continuing
with the s25 leaks, uh, we doindeed have the overclocked
snapdragon 8 elite.
So we talked about thesnapdragon 8 elite a couple
weeks ago during the snapdragonsummit week, and now we have
heard that there was a rumorSamsung might get their own
specific Galaxy version of theSnapdragon 8 Elite.

(27:49):
We talked about that duringthat week as well.
That usually happens, like theyget an overclocked version
because Samsung is the biggestAndroid mobile phone
manufacturer.
So of course Qualcomm gives themwhatever they want.
So they're like we want anexclusive version that's faster
than any of the other phonemakers can get OEMs, because we
want to obviously be able tomarket that and say ours is the
best, and so they give it tothem.
And so it does look like we'regoing to get a Galaxy version

(28:11):
for the Snapdragon 8 Elite.
Some benchmarks surfaced overthere.
It looks like we've got aGeekbench 6.3 score of 3148 on
the single core, 10,236 on themulti-core, and these are pretty
substantial improvements overwhat we've got on the S24 Ultra
this year.
So these are not just the 5%improvements, like I said, that

(28:32):
we usually get.
These are around, I think, 20%improvements year over year.
And this doesn't even take intoaccount the fact that the chip
is more power efficient whilealso delivering more power.
It's also less battery drain, sowe're going to see improved
battery life while also gettinga huge jump in performance.
So this could be, you know, amassive, a massive deal, in my

(28:53):
opinion.
Um, I I'm pretty excited aboutthe snapdragon 8 elite.
I think we talked about thatbefore it's.
You know, there's not reallytoo much more to say about it
because we said everything thatthere is to say, but if you like
to look at benchmarks, thesebenchmarks should get you pretty
excited.
We still do have this rumorthat the Snapdragon 8 Elite has
some overheating issues, but Ihope those will be resolved by

(29:15):
launch.
I don't think Samsung willallow the another overheating
chip to make it into one oftheir phones.
This has happened in the pastand obviously they also had the
debacle with the Note 7.
So I don't see this being aproblem when we get to the final
launch.
But in some early testing itseems that people are a little
worried about the thermals.
But Samsung is just.

(29:36):
You know, they're too cautiousright now to allow that to
happen.
So could it happen that if theoriginal chip or this one has
some thermal issues, that theyend up underclocking it?
That could happen, but I thinkthat would be really bad.
So I don't think Samsung.
Everything else about the S25is shaping up to be like a super
cycle year where a lot ofpeople upgrade and also they
have this reputation we talkedabout before where the odd

(29:57):
numbered S launch is always thebest one, that's fans.
So they've got a lot to live upto this year, so I don't think
they'll let that happen.
I think we're going to get thebeastly performance and I think
they'll get the thermals undercontrol.
Have you been playing?
You don't play too many mobilegames.
Do you play Pokemon Go?
I was going to ask you.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Do you play Pokemon Go at all?
I used to play it.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
just released a Pokemon Pocket I was going to
try that I was taking a drink.
Sorry, that's the thing aboutthe microphone.
How is that?
Because that's basically likethe TCG, but in your pocket
right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
So essentially what they have done is they've kind
of made their own cards and putit into this game, and so every
day you get to open two packs umand then you can also battle.
Um is not the typical standard,or as people would say in the
pokemon community, of how youwould play with pokemon cards.
Uh, you play with the 20 carddeck and essentially you try

(31:00):
your best to knock out three ofyour opponent's pokemon.
But it looks like it's startingto gain some traction.
I'm thinking aboutparticipating in a tournament.
Already.
Some local game stores arealready starting to offer
tournaments for Pokemon Pocket.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
But how do you play the tournament?
Because you don't really needto be there in person, right,
you can do it remotely, or what?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, I think so.
Man, I'm going to be thereremotely, I mean, sorry's not
remotely, but I'm gonna be therein person, uh, just to kind of
like see what the community islike for it.
Uh, but yeah, yeah, likeessentially, yeah, you wouldn't
need to, you just need to.
Yeah, just get their friendcode, I'm assuming.
But uh, so far it's pretty fun.
Uh, I've seen some stuff on theinternet of like, uh, there

(31:42):
could there's some broken cards,so I don't know if at some
point they may try to, you know,do some balancing or uh, maybe
do like a ban list.
You know a certain they didthat early in days of TCG.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I remember back when I was younger they started
banning cards that they realizedwere just, uh, too overpowerful
.
You know they were like a cheatcode in the game.
Yeah, Essentially were just toooverpowering.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
They're like a cheat code in the game.
Yeah, essentially they're likeso we?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
can't let people put these in their deck anymore
because we've got to balance itout a little.
Yeah, I might try it After wego to lunch.
I might download it and play itbecause I saw a lot of people.
You know I follow a bunch ofPokemon YouTubers because I am
interested in Pokemon collectinglike Leonhard and Darium Some
of these guys and watch themopen some packs and stuff like
that, and Jonathan also likes it, so you might have to check

(32:24):
that out.
I'm going to also interested inwhat our audience thinks.
To tie this back to theQualcomm, I don't do a lot of
gaming, so I want to develop astandard gaming benchmark test
for our Sammy Google reviewsbecause we're going to start
doing a lot more hardwarereviews.
I reviewed the Z Fold 6.
That was my first big one.
I wrote like 3,500, 4,000 wordson it.

(32:48):
I'm going to do a full reviewon the Z Fold Special Edition,
mainly to have a nice comparisonto the Z Fold 6, plus.
Not very many people are goingto review it because not many
people will have it.
There are probably going to bewritten reviews over on the
website, because I just don'tlike doing video reviews.
I mean, to be honest with you.
They don't want, they don't getpushed by YouTube from my
audience a lot and video reviewsjust take a lot of work.
I've mentioned this before,whereas I enjoy writing reviews

(33:12):
more because if I change my mindabout something, I can save it
as a draft.
I could think about it, I comeback, I can reword it.
If I make a video, it's reallyhard, like if you record a video
the way I record them, and thenyou need to come back and edit
the audio like you've got to getit in there and sometimes it
doesn't sound right.
It can really mess up andyou've got to record like really
large, you know kind of swathsof the video.

(33:33):
But if you guys have games thatyou want me to try I know, like
Asphalt, some of the other onesare standards, the test
processors, things like that.
We want to have those.
So drop them in the show notes,put them over on X, facebook,
on YouTube.
Let me know which games Ishould use as our standard
benchmark test for making surethat a particular phone is up to

(33:54):
par when it comes to gaming,because I definitely want to
have some benchmarks for that.
Force myself to play some moregames so I can give you guys a
good test, because that's theone place where I feel like I'm
lacking.
I take a lot of photos becauseobviously I have kids.
I'm taking photos all the time,so camera tests are easy for me
to do.
I have a good job, you know,easy time judging camera quality
.
Battery's great because I usemy phone all the time for work

(34:14):
and for semi-guru, so I can testbattery drain.
I can do that.
Obviously, I really into One UIand software so I can do all
that testing.
But I feel like gaming is whatI'm lacking, so we want to try
to get a little bit better rightthere, I think.
Next, in the second part of theshow, we've got quite a bit more
still.
Today might be a little longer,last week we were shorter.
We're going to talk about theSamsung Trifold.

(34:35):
Samsung has a Trifold thatmight be coming soon.
Talk a little bit more aboutOne UI 7, because we've got some
more leaks about that.
Of course, a huge change Bixbygot overhauled completely, and
then also the Galaxy Ring 2looks like it's finally in
development and so a lot ofexciting stuff there and we're
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All right, everybody, we areback and we'll start off the
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(36:02):
a little bit.
You guys know I talked earlierabout the fact that they started
the trade-in program for theoriginal Galaxy Ring.
You guys know I'm a huge GalaxyRing fan.
I'm wearing mine right now.
In fact, I wear it all the time.
Love the product.
But there are some things theycould definitely add and we
already have some rumors thatSamsung is working on the Galaxy
Ring 2.
Samsung is working on the GalaxyRing 2.
Now could this necessarilylaunch with the S25?

(36:26):
I think that it's at leastpossible.
There's an outside shot.
I would give it like a 30%chance.
I don't think it's very likely.
But Samsung leaker.
The Galaxy posted on X that thenew model is around the corner
and they said the Galaxy Ring 2will be thinner while still

(36:46):
offering a longer battery life.
Since a thinner profile may notallow it to pack bigger
batteries, the company must haveachieved this by other means
potentially better softwareoptimization with Samsung Health
, and in addition to that, theGalaxy also said there will be
additional features.
Now, thinner is definitelyimportant because I will tell
you this, I'm looking at myGalaxy Ring right here and

(37:06):
you've seen it.
This is a lot thicker than astandard ring.
I don't have my regular weddingband here, but I was reminded
of this because on Saturday wewent and took our family
Christmas photos.
We went and took it toJCPenney's and we get our photos
in every year with the kids andus and all that kind of good
stuff.
I'll make sure I send you aChristmas card there, tori, with
the family on it.

(37:28):
But Nicole asked me could I wearmy regular wedding band Because
she thought it would lookbetter in the photo than this
one.
Just because of the color wewere wearing like red with khaki
she thought the silver, myplatinum wedding band would look
better.
So for the first time in awhile because I've been wearing
the Galaxy Ring since July Itook this off and I wore my
regular wedding band for a while.
It's substantially thicker thana regular wedding band.

(37:48):
When I put the other one on Iwas like, wow, this is so much
lighter.
I have a lot more space betweenthese two fingers, because this
one really does bump into yourother two fingers.
Of course we talked about thefact that really you should wear
the Galaxy Ring on your indexfinger, but I've gotten so used
to wearing it on my wedding bandfinger that I've just continued
on because, especially sincethe Galaxy Ring 2 is coming out,
I'll probably just move to myindex finger whenever I get that

(38:11):
one.
So the thinner I think is a bigdeal.
And better battery life.
I mean I don't know that wereally need that because it
already gets nine days batterylife.
I mean I don't know that I needtoo much more, it already gets
nine days battery life and Idon't know that I need too much
more.
The only thing I think theyneed to do is they got to give
you more obvious notices whenthe battery is running low in
the Samsung Health or wearableapp, because I often miss the

(38:32):
notification.
It's not very obvious, theydon't make it like a critical or
persistent alert, so I oftenforget to charge it towards the
end.
I just set a reminder formyself in my reminders app to
check my ring battery everyeight days, because their notice
is not very obvious and sosometimes it's easy to miss.
They should probably do that.
Maybe if they could even makeit so that the ring vibrates or

(38:53):
something or it lights up inlike a weird color that you
never see otherwise, then thatmight actually be good too,
because the battery life is fine.
Nine days is a lot of batterylife.
Um, I can charge this everynine days.
It doesn't take that long totop it up.
Plus, you can charge the casein the interim and so if you're
traveling and just drop it inthe case, yeah, charge it up
while you're gone.

(39:13):
Um, so well, what?
What do you think?
You, you, you didn't get thefirst ring.
Um what?
What features would it need?
Before I tell you some of thefeatures that we might see,
because we have a couple that wemight see, um, what features
would make you consider a galaxyring too?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
well, uh, before I answer that, I actually kind of
I I am hoping that they actuallywould just release the ring
around the same time theyreleased it this past year.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Just only thinking because, like it was still, it's
still very recent and I knowlike, again, most people who are
average consumers will probablybe like yeah wow, like I just
spent all that money to get this, and now you're offering a new,
sleeker and possibly thinneryeah this time around like it'd
be kind of like a and rememberwe heard also that this time I

(40:00):
don't think this is going tomake it into this version, but
remember I think a couple weeksago we had the rumor that the
Galaxy Ring could be adjustablein the future so you don't have
to get different sizes, youcould just adjust it to your
size.
That I don't think is comingwith Galaxy Ring 2, because
that's going to take moreengineering.
But go ahead, continue.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I'm just kind of hoping that they do release it
around in that same ballparktime and then, so that way
people can also kind of expectthat, oh, all right, well, maybe
not I, they may skip aniteration here or there, but you
know, they can plan out likewhen they may buy the next
version, you know, obviously,with this being a successful
item.
Um, the other thing andactually I kind of had a

(40:41):
question on, I've seen a lot ofmy friends lately.
They they've been buying theAura ring instead, and so I
don't know very much about thatproduct, but I'm assuming it's
just like the cheaper version ofwhat Samsung is offering.
Well, actually not, it's moreexpensive, oh really.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Aura actually has been doing the ring for like, I
think, five or six years now.
They were the first smart Ringthe other thing is, you've
probably seen your friends buythem because this guy doesn't
work with Apple.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
So if you have an Apple phone.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Aura works with both.
I've thought about comparingthe two, but I might wait for
the Galaxy Ring 2 just because Ididn't do it in time, because
people wanted to see acomparison.
I know a lot of people did them, but for myself, to kind of see
how aura stacks up, um, butI've seen the galaxy ring is
fares pretty well in mostpeople's reviews, but that could
be why you've seen it is that?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
um, indeed, you know this doesn't work with apple, so
if you have an iphone, anyonesmart ring, most of my friends
have apple and apple doesn'thave apple doesn't have their
own smart ring yet.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, they are rumored to be working on one
eventually, but right now, ifyou want a smart ring and you
got an iPhone, you're not goingto be buying the Galaxy Ring.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, yeah, well, I mean honestly for me I would go
for the ring just for all thetracking benefits, especially
like my sleep and stuff, becauseI do like checking my sleep
score in the mornings when Iwake up on the Samsung Health
app.
So I would be interested, basedoff of everything that I've
that I've read, definitelymaking sure like I get like the

(42:08):
right ring size, because, yeah,I do think it just from looking
at it it does look a little bitthicker, so I'd definitely be
rocking it on the index fingerLike adjustable would be great
too, because the other thingpeople forget about is your
fingers, like swell, and likethese, swell throughout the day
and also throughout the yearwhen it gets colder or hotter.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So one size doesn't always feel the same on your
finger, even if you buy a size10 or whatever.
Like I have it, sometimes it'sreally tighter and sometimes
it's a lot looser, um, so if youhave that adjustability, you
can make micro adjustments, likethroughout the year as it gets
hotter, your fingers swell,whatever, uh, which is also
gives it a huge benefit overtraditional rings yeah because

(42:48):
you can't really like resize atraditional ring.
So if you wanted to wear thislike as your wedding band kind
of like I am then you have thatextra benefit.
Not only does it have thesesmart tracking benefits, you
also then can make it morecomfortable throughout you know
the year, whereas you know, ifyou've got a platinum or gold
wedding band, you can't it morecomfortable throughout the year,
whereas if you've got aplatinum or gold wedding band,
you can't obviously resize itthroughout the year because it's
not something you can do.

(43:09):
There's a couple of featuresthat are rumored, and it's two
that we really talked about whenthe first ring came out.
That would be very interesting.
One of them, which is the onethat I really want, if they add
this, I will be more excited forthe ring than I will be for the
next fold or whatever and thatis NFC payments.
If you could pay with your ring, I'll be super excited Because

(43:31):
then I don't have to likeputting your wrist up to the
terminal sometimes weird, but myring I can just be like boom,
right there, it's easy.
It's a lot easier to do.
I would love Samsung Pay on myGalaxy Ring.
I would use that all the timeand it would be super convenient
.
I think the big issue, as wetalked about we spent a lot of
time talking about this on thepodcast a few months ago is how

(43:52):
do they secure it?
Because with the watch you canobviously force you to put a pin
or pattern on the watch becauseyou know, obviously it's got a
screen.
How do you make it so thatsomeone has a pin or a pattern?
We suggested maybe they coulddo a tap pattern.
You've got to do a gesture toget it to unlock so you can use
payments, because obviously youdon't just want it unlocked,

(44:13):
because then someone takes yourring.
They're just punching terminals,buying all kinds of stuff on
your car.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Do you think maybe they can incorporate, because if
it's meant to be on the indexfinger could they put like a
fingerprint thing on the side?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Possible, but I don't think there's enough room for
your whole fingerprint to go,and sometimes partial
fingerprint matches or lookclose between people, whereas
the actual full fingerprintwon't, so that would still have
a security issue.
I think the gesture might bethe best, because we had talked
about this before.
Like you, do a little airgesture with it, but that's a
little harder to recognize thana real pen or pattern, because

(44:47):
you could mistake a gesture.
You're probably going to have alot of false positives.
You could also have some falsenegatives, those sort of things
where you did it correctly andit doesn't work.
It's going to piss people off.
If they're doing the rightgesture, they look like an idiot
because they're in Target, yeah, and like I said, I said
abracadabra.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Alakazam and they're like what is up with this guy?
And they're like what is thisguy doing?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
He's like I swear it works my ring, it pays for stuff
.
And these people are like, yeah, this guy's crazy, Get him out
of here.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Well, like what sends like a notification to the
watch and you just hit somethingon your watch.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, I think that's probably most likely.
But of course that takes outthe ease of use and fun factor
that I want from it is that itsends.
If you have a watch, it willsend it there.
You just approve thenotification or it sends it on
your phone, and if you have likea pen, you just put your
fingerprint on your phone.
But, then it kind of defeats thepurpose because then I have to
take my phone in my pocket.
Still, um, obviously payingwith my phone isn't that hard,

(45:45):
but it's one extra step.
I got to take it out of mypocket and unlock it.
The whole thing would be coolto pay with a ring and then not
have to do anything else,because I think people would be
kind of you know, amazed by thatkind of like they were when
samsung pay had magnetic stripetechnology.
I love paying, we've talkedabout that before everywhere and
they're like, oh, we don't havensc and I'd be like poop.
And they'd be like, oh my gosh,how did they do that?
I'm like, yeah, it worked, giveme my stuff yeah, it's paid for

(46:06):
, but you know.
Then samsung got rid of the mstbecause pretty much everyone has
nfc now.
Um yeah, I mean also why youknow, walmart still doesn't have
tap to pay what is going onwith walmart?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I never.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
It's just ridiculous I'm gonna boy boycott Walmart
soon Target only for me becauseI'm getting tired of that.
I do not like the fact that Ican't tap to pay.
It's really that big of a deal,because sometimes I do like
forget my wallet in the carbecause I used to have to pay my
watch my phone so many places.
Now no-transcript Because Ihave my license on my phone too.

(46:47):
Now we've talked about sosometimes I just leave it at
home and I'm not worried aboutit If you guys love Bixby.
Bixby is getting a massiveoverhaul.
Who doesn't love Bixby?
A fan favorite again byannouncing a massive overhaul
coming to Bixby with the SamsungW25, which is the China version

(47:12):
of the Z Fold Special Edition.
We talked about it with thegold and the bling when they
announced that with the pressrelease.
Buried in that press release,they also announced that that
phone would ship with the nextgeneration Bixby assistant.
It's not coming to the us orkorea or anywhere else, only
china for the time being.
It's weird.
I don't really know why, butsamsung released a lot of

(47:32):
information about it.
It's going to have more aifeatures, trained with large
language models, and it willhave contextual awareness and it
also will have intelligentextraction of screen information
.
So now you'll just be able tosay, like you know, if you have
a map on your screen.
You'll be able to say you know,hey B, tell me you know what

(47:54):
are the nearest places aroundthis location that I'm showing
you now, that sell Pokemon cardsor something, and it will be
able to help you try to findthat information.
Or it will be able to tell you,like you know, here's a map.
I'm going home.
Do I have time to stop and getsome milk, and it will be able
to figure out, like which friesare on your way home, how long

(48:16):
it will take, and then tell you,like an estimated time that
would add to your trajectory.
So, instead of you having totype it all in if you already
have the map up, like you'researching Google Maps, you know
where you're going.
Just say, hey B, look at myscreen, figure this out.
So it'll have that kind ofcontextual awareness and it also
is going to have a new UIoverhaul.
You can already type to Bixby.
You've been able to do that fora while, but now you'll be able

(48:39):
to get more contextualawareness when you type, so
it'll be able to read everythingthat's on your screen if you
give it permission.
Of course, you have to opt intothat, as usual with anything
AI-related, because of privacyrestrictions and all that stuff,
but if you give it permission,you'll be able to get all that
contextual information.
I just don't know that peopleare going to move back to Bixby.
I mean, I want to like Bixbybecause I'm a Samsung fan, but I

(49:04):
feel like bixby is one of thosethings where samsung just
totally missed the the bus,because there was a weird time
where they kind of half gave upon bixby.
Um, they released bixby andthey're like everything should
be bixby.
But then they kind of realizedthat people didn't like bixby
and they're like, oh well,google assistant is doing a lot
better than bixby, so we'll kindof tell people they can use
Google Assistant on theirSamsung phone, and so then they

(49:25):
kind of push that, but then theyalso push Bixby.
But then people realized GoogleAssistant was better and
Samsung told them that it wasfine to use it.
So people just started usingthat.
And so now I feel likeeverybody who has a Samsung
phone mostly use GoogleAssistant for everything over
Bixby.
What about you, tori, do you use?
I mean, I use Google Assistantfor everything in terms of
looking stuff up.
I use Bixby for on-device stuff, but I feel like most people

(49:46):
have just neglected it foreverything.
Do you ever use Bixby?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I neglect it for everything.
I find it very annoying.
I don't know if this is a goodthing, but literally I'll say
25% of the time whenever I'mgetting out to my phone, if I
accidentally touch anywherebelow, like towards the bottom
of my phone, Bixby pops up.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Yeah, you can turn that off.
I can try to turn it off.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Oh, excellent Thank you, but I use Google Assistant
literally for everything.
It's just so intuitive.
And actually I was going to askyou what do you think would
make Bixby be on the same levelas what?
Is it Siri for Apple, like Imean, because people who have

(50:32):
iPhones, like a lot of myfriends, like they do utilize
Siri, but Bixby I've just neverreally been a fan.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Well, here's what I think about that.
I think Bixby is just as goodat Siri.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
It's just that Samsung is just not necessarily
as good at marketing andtricking people as Apple is, I
think, siri sucks equally asmuch as Bixby in terms of some
tasks.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
But here's my take on it Samsung should not market
Bixby as a Google Assistantcompetitor, because Google
Assistant is a little differentthan Siri and Bixby.
People often think of them allalong the same lines, but Siri
and Bixby really are moredesigned to help you do things

(51:14):
automate tasks on your device,whereas Google Assistant is more
designed to retrieveinformation from the internet
and do stuff with that.
So they're really designed fortwo separate purposes.
And in fact, google Assistantcan work with Bixby if you
design certain routines, and itactually works really well.
So what I use Bixby for is Itypically use Bixby, like the
Bixby routines, to do specificthings on my device.

(51:36):
So like I have it set up on myS25 Ultra where when I get home,
for instance, right to my house, I can press a single button
and actually my thing that opensmy garage on my Android Auto
and as soon as I do that, itwill start an entire routine
that unlocks my smart door lockon my garage.
It'll turn on the light that'sright inside the front, the

(51:59):
garage door, on the inside of myhouse, my Philips Hue light,
and then also, if I want to, Ihave a dinnertime routine where
it can also preheat my oven.
Because I have the smart thesmart Samsung oven.
I can also have it set my ovento preheat if I want to put
something in the oven.
Now, since, luckily, my wifemakes me dinner most of that, I
don't need to use that.
But I set this up just for fun.

(52:19):
Like if they are away and likeI'm there by myself and they're
out doing something, I can likepop in a pizza or whatever I
want to do.
You know, if I want to makesomething, I'm probably not
making a five course meal if I'meating by myself.
But there's a lot of coolroutines and Bixby can also like
do specific stuff on yourdevice.
Like it can.
You can record a routine and itcan draft like a message for

(52:40):
you every day at a certain time.
So like if I want to sendnicole a message like hey, I'm
going home or I'm leaving theoffice, I have also office
routine.
Like as soon as I leave, it'lllike set the adt alarm for me
here at the sammy guru offices.
It does a couple other thingsturns on my location, so when I
get in the car I can uselocation with android auto and
also send nicole a message andit inserts the time I'm leaving,

(53:02):
so it says leaving at this time.
Here's my estimated arrival time.
It'll attach it.
Bixby can draft that in realtime for you.
So adding AI contextualawareness, I think, will be very
helpful, but they need to stopmarketing as like it's an
information retrieval tool fromthe internet, because Bixby on
its own is pretty bad at doingthat.
Google assistant is the best atthat and I use it for
everything.
And at doing that.
Google Assistant is the best atthat.

(53:23):
I use it for everything.
Google needs to work on theirown problems too, though.
They've got Gemini and GoogleAssistant, and they both sort of
do the same thing.
Sometimes Gemini has to callGoogle Assistant.
We've talked about this before.
There's way too many differentvoice assistants and AI chatbots
now.
No one can keep any of themstraight.
But if Samsung really wants bigspeed to make a comeback, I
think they have to market it aslike you can press a button or

(53:45):
you can type a command or youcan say hey b, run this routine
or whatever, and it can do awhole bunch of stuff on your
device right, like it can openthe x app and send a tweet for
you.
You can just say that in voiceand it will do it.
Say hey b, open x and draft thefollowing tweet.
And it's pretty good with voicerecognition.
So with AI learning it couldget a lot better.
But they need to stop marketingit, as this is as good as

(54:09):
Google for like informationretrieval.
But maybe they should say hey,here's an easy way to integrate
it with Google and maybeillustrate how those routines
work.
You could grab information fromthe internet and then it could
actually write a tweet from youand include that link to your
blog.
I've used it before to tweetout Sammy Guru stuff.
I mean, we have most of thatautomated now, but Bixby can do
that.
So that's my take.

(54:29):
Siri is also equally, in myopinion, bad at getting online
info.
It doesn't do very well, likeyou can ask Bixby very easy
questions.
It doesn't know the answer.
Google is the unmatched winner.
People um Google is theunmatched winner.
People on iPhone should beusing Google assistant too,
cause they they actually Googleassistant app for iPhone.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Google has one.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
You, if you have an iPhone, probably not listening
to this podcast, but if you do,you should use Google assistant
on your iPhone for search aswell, Cause it's just better.
Um, but that's my take.
Bixby is good, but it's justnot's used.
It should really should be usedfor something other than what
most people use it for, I guess.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Yeah, it would make sense, yeah, yeah, no, actually
that that explains a lot more,and I think, um, for most people
, when we, when we think aboutAI, um usage, uh, we are
thinking about like grabbingthings from the internet, and
that makes more sense why Ithink people gravitate more
towards the google uh ai versuslike the bixby, or you know,

(55:28):
yeah google had a massiveadvantage because they're
already the number one search bya massive, massive, massive
margin in the world so of course, they already have a huge
advantage when it comes to, youknow, anything that has to do
with like grabbing informationoff the internet.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
But in terms of doing stuff on your device, obviously
bixby is the best for thatbecause it knows your Samsung
device, because obviously it wasmade by Samsung.
So if you wanted to open an appor run a routine or do anything
with your connections Bluetooth, all that stuff, it's really
good at helping you automatesome of the usage of your phone.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Well, you know what I would like to see and I think,
well, samsung is kind of gettingmore into like the marketing
and stuff now, because we'reseeing more and more Samsung
commercials.
They are.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
They're doing a good job with that.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, yeah I think they are what I would like to
see a little bit more, and I seea lot of say companies are
starting to do this, but Samsungcan make like a quick little
video of like Bixby how-tos youknow, yeah, yeah.
And I feel like people gravitatetowards that because people

(56:32):
want how to do something, butvery quickly, and they don't
want to read, they want to watcha video.
So I feel like if they couldjust get ahead of that and kind
of like pop some videos onYouTube like hey, how to Bixby,
or at least how they'reintending for Bixby to be used,
I think that will help theconsumer base be like oh, okay,

(56:53):
like they can just pay me andsubcontract me, and I'll do it
for them.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I mean it'll cost a little bit of money, but I mean
I can do it yeah, and then theycan just put in fact it won't
actually cost anything as longas the official samsung account
links sammy guru in thedescription.
I won't charge them for it, youknow, because I think that will
make us sufficient enough moneyoh, yeah, back that I don't
need to worry about getting paidup front.
So if they want some freetutorials on how to use the next
gen bixby, get in touch with us.

(57:18):
Me and samit will work on it.
And, uh, you guys just have tolink sammy guru and say, hey,
here's the source you should goto for your samsung news.
If you guys give us officialendorsement from samsung, I
think that'll be enough payment.
We'll be just, we'll be fine.
Yeah, um, even you will call it.
Even, we will call it more thaneven probably, yeah.
So two new foldable rumors, oneof them which isn't maybe super
exciting and one that's actuallysuper duper exciting.

(57:39):
Um, we have a rumor that thegalaxy z flip fe fan edition
again, don't understand the name, whatever could join samsung's
foldable lineup in 2025.
We talked about this for awhile.
Samsung was rumored to havesome cheaper cost foldables
coming out and, uh, people areon the fence about whether or
not it'd be the fold or the flip.
I think the flip makes moresense because it's still already

(58:00):
the lower cost phone and mostpeople Folds we talked about
before are pretty muchenthusiasts, so I didn't think
they would really buy acheaper-cost Fold.
Cheaper-cost Flip makes a lotmore sense.
What do you think about that,tori?
If you get a Flip.
You could price it around like$799 instead of $999.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Do you think people are going to be purchasing that
For sure.
I've actually already hadfriends.
I went out for brunch, I think,saturday morning and all of the
four people were huge Appleusers.
But three of them were like,hey, you know, like we've been
kind of noticing Samsung withtheir flip game is really strong

(58:38):
, and like we're actually likereally interested, but man, we
just wish it was a little bitlike, you know, a cheaper model.
And I feel like we're startingto get to that point where even
apple users or people, you know,obviously, now that the
foldables have been out for alittle bit now, people are
starting to turn their heads andand are interested, and I think
this would be a really goodentryway for some of um, the

(59:03):
consumers who, you know, don'tbuy every single phone that
comes out every year and islooking for a cheaper entryway,
you know, obviously, because wegot so used to the slot phones,
you know.
But I think the key thing toget people over will be what the
crease will look like.
Get people over will be whatthe crease will look like.

(59:24):
I also talked to someone elseyesterday who's interested in a
flip phone.
They're interested in gettinginto it, but they're mostly
concerned about the crease.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Yeah, Samsung is apparently reducing the crease
in a lot of their phones.
When I get my hands on the ZFold Special Edition, which will
be today at some point, I'mvery excited about that.
Supposedly, the crease is very,very, very reduced from the Z
Fold 6.
Now I do think, though, that,unfortunately, if they do a
lower budget one, the creasereduction is probably not going

(59:56):
to be the first thing thatthey're going to include,
because that requires some newhinge tech and stuff.
I also think that, unfortunately, the other thing that might get
cut in terms of reduced cost,because they've got to reduce
the cost somehow to build it isthe cover screen might not be
full screen, it might just be alittle window like it was before
, which might turn people off.

(01:00:17):
The full cover screen is kind ofone of the big selling points
of the Flip.
I actually really like the Flip.
I was an anti-Flip guy for thefirst four years of the flip,
just because the battery lifesucks so bad, uh.
And then this year, like, theychanged it.
The battery life is really good.
They put a better camera in.
It's basically on the level ofa base galaxy s24.
Um, I mean, it's not my phonekind of phone because it's not
wide enough for me still.

(01:00:37):
So it's just not for mepersonally.
But now when people tell melike, like, should I buy one?
I'm like, yeah, it's got greatbattery life, it's got a really
good camera, it's got unique usecases.
You can use it as a tripod,it's cool, it looks cool.
If you like it, if you like thelook of it, it's a solid phone.
Now there's no reason not tobuy it.
I could see them selling a tonof these.
Like you know, maybe theirparents are going to buy them a

(01:01:01):
phone.
They're a teen, they're likeyou know, their parents don't
want to spend $1,000.
They don't want to buy usflagship money.
But this is basically the sameprice as an entry-level iPhone
16, not the Pro model, just aregular.
So if they're adventurous andthey're willing, I guess, to get
bullied for, having a greenbubble instead of a blue bubble.
They could be like hey, mom andDad fan edition, a Z Flip 7 fan
edition instead.

(01:01:22):
I could see them selling someof these though, so we'll see.
We'll keep our eye on this.
Of course I'll have a unit ifthey do release it next year.
That would put a total of Iguess it would be four folds
that.
We know that would probablycome out next year.
We'd have the fan edition ZFlip, the regular Z Flip 7, the
Z Fold 7, and the Z fold specialedition number two or whatever

(01:01:44):
they call it Could be Z foldseven ultra Maybe.
I don't know yet what they'regoing to call that.
Now the more interesting rumorSamsung is working on a tri-fold
foldable.
We've heard this for a whileand now we have a new patent
that's been filed that we foundand a bunch of sites kind of
found evidence of this thatshows the specifications for

(01:02:07):
this new tri-fold and how itcould work.
So they released the technicaldocument.
What's particularly noteworthyis the patent was originally
filed in 2021 and has only nowbeen made public, so they were
somewhat trying to hide this.
Get the patent office to helpthem kind of hide the proof of
this.
As detailed in the patent,there's improvement to the
screen tech, including astronger protective layer for
the inner displays and specialopenings to reduce stress at the

(01:02:31):
hinges.
The design also featuresanti-reflective coating made
from synthetic resin or anothermaterial, per the document, and
the screen can be built fromglass and stainless steel.
So Huawei introduced theirtri-fold, but that was only in
China.
That was this year.
Samsung has the chance to doexactly what they did with the
original fold and become thefirst tri-foldable available

(01:02:53):
globally, because obviouslyHuawei is banned from the US and
most places in Europe don'tsell Huawei either, so that was
basically just China only kindof deal Asia.
So if Samsung were to releasethis in 2025, they could be the
first.
I think a tri-fold would beincredibly interesting, but I do
think the thickness is aconcern.
How they implement it, yeah,because we already know the

(01:03:15):
folds are pretty thick andthey're just getting to the
point where they're reducingthat thickness to acceptable
levels.
When I get my hands on the ZFold Special Edition again today
, that's supposed to be reallythin.
I'm excited to see you know howclose is it to my S24 Ultra
with the case on, because,basically, if the Fold Special

(01:03:38):
Edition is the same thickness asmy s24 ultra with the case on.
It'll basically be the same,because I carry the s24 ultra
when I'm out with a case all thetime, so that would be no big
deal.
Yeah, um, but trifold.
I am concerned about thicknesslevels, so we'd have to see.
I think it's really exciting.
Of course I would love to getone.
Probably the first one would bepriced like three grand 3500
something crazy it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
It's going to be the new luxury phone.
Yeah, it's going to be off thecharts expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
My more interest, though, is in rollables.
We've talked about that a fewtimes.
We don't know when Samsung willever bring one to market.
We've seen it at CES.
I'll probably see some inJanuary when I go to CES.
I'll send you some pictures,Tori.
Maybe one year we can work outa way for you to come see us for
a few days.
It'll be fun to come and checkout a little bit of the show for

(01:04:18):
a couple days.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
I'll take off if I got to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Yeah, there's always some cool stuff to see.
It's the beginning of thesemester, so you know, maybe
next year, maybe in 2026, we canplan ahead and you can come for
a few days to the media events.
But we'll probably see somerollables.
They had some last year.
Basically, just press a buttonand the screen rolls out into a
tablet phone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah, I've never seen that.
Yeah, those would be crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
I would love to see that, because then the thickness
isn't as big of a deal becausethe screen rolls under the main
screen and so you should have amuch thinner profile than if you
have a big hinge on the back.
But I'm definitely excited tosee a trifold on the back.
But I'm definitely excited tosee a tri-fold.
I don't know that I see thiscoming down the pipeline in 2025
.
I think maybe 2026 is morelikely.

(01:05:01):
I also think maybe it's goodfor Samsung because they're
finally fine tuning andoptimizing their current
foldable offerings.
Maybe not time to introduceanother foldable display to the
mass market yet?
Maybe educate people and makesure that these foldables are
working the best they can and,you know, fix all the
shortcomings, like make surewe've got flagship cameras on

(01:05:24):
all the foldables.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
And any of the other issues with battery before we
kind of move in that direction.
Oh, one other thing before weget into the Q&A we got a pretty
spicy Q&A here, so we'll take alook at that.
The last thing is 1UI7.
We couldn't have a wholeepisode without talking about
1UI7.
We expect 1UI7 to finally comeout in beta next week.

(01:05:48):
Ice Universe said he expectsthe beta to arrive from November
17th, that is, next Sunday, soanytime the following week.
I already predicted that lastweek because we had heard many
times that the most likelyrelease for the beta was during
SDC Korea, which the keynotestarts on November 21st, which
would be next Friday.
Yes, right, friday, thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Next Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
So that would be most likely where we'll see the beta
.
So if you're wondering aroundthe beta, that's going to be
next week.
Samsung has already officiallycommented on one feature that's
coming to One UI 7, which theydon't usually do.
We already saw this when I wentto SDC in San Jose for the US
version last month.
Galaxy Avatar is replacing AREmoji, but it's not really a new

(01:06:32):
app.
It's just the same app thatwe've always had AR Emoji, just
with a new name.
Have you ever used AR Emoji atall?

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
No, I mean I've seen people use it, like on YouTube,
but I have never personally usedit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yeah, I feel like this is another feature where,
like, it's just obvious thatSamsung users maybe it's just
the difference between the usersand not the companies apple
just markets these like gimmickyfeatures better than samsung, I
guess because, like everybodyuses, like the animated, like
apple emojis like you know whereyou can animate your head, like

(01:07:03):
it's usually just all the time,but with ar emoji, this kind of
just you know ends up being youknow, something that gets
thrown to the side by samsungusers.
Not many people use it.
I've've done tutorial videos onit on YouTube, so I've used it,
but I feel like they're notusually watched that much.
So I mean, that's an indicationpeople don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's more like I never hear of
these things.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, like Samsung has to market it better.
I guess Galaxy Avatar is by fara better name than AR emoji in
my opinion.
I name than AR emoji.
In my opinion.
I think maybe that willincrease the adoption because,
you know, Apple also usuallytends to as much as I hate to
say it tends to name theirthings a little bit better than
Samsung for certain features.
But I mean, I like the name, doyou like the name better?

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I like the name Galaxy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
It tells you what it is, yeah you're creating an
avatar for yourself on yourgalaxy AR emoji doesn't really
sound like you're making one foryourself.
It's like you could be makingemoji of anything yeah but
really it's mainly about makingan avatar for yourself, and so I
think they finally dialed thatin.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
We've got to get some marketing degrees.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Maybe we've got to get our degree and we'll get a
job with Samsung and say hey,we'll also go to sammygurucom.
I'll put that in.
All the marketing materialsJust condense our you, you know,
vertically integrate ourbusinesses here.
Um, okay, so that's one ui7.
I'm not going to talk a bunchabout that today because,
guarantee you, next week, in thefollowing next two weeks,
because when the beta comes out,probably the whole entire show

(01:08:25):
will be one ui7, because we'regoing to be unpacking every
single feature, all the uichanges.
I mean there'll be a wholemonth of it.
By the the time we get toChristmas or Thanksgiving,
probably the middle of December,you guys will be like I'm sick
of One UI 7, which will be great, because then it'll be almost
time for the S25 launch.
We'll get to talk about that fora whole month, but I'm sure
we'll be talking about that alot.

(01:08:45):
To finish the show, though, q&aGreat question here.
This was someone.
Someone sent me this andbecause I hadn't seen the tweet
yet, and then we actually wrotean article about it, which is
Ice Universe tweeted out thatpotentially TM Rowe could be
replaced as the CEO of SamsungMobile the head of Samsung

(01:09:06):
Mobile.
So Ice Universe just simplytweeted out a photo and said
he's coming, and it's a photo ofJuan Joan Choi, who is EVP and
head of mobile R&D office,mobile experience business from
Samsung Electronics, and it'sjust a picture of him with a
quote that says we believe ourhybrid approach is the most
practical and reliable solutionto meet all these needs and put

(01:09:28):
Samsung ahead of the curve.
So it's a young, up andcomingSamsung executive.
A lot of people have believedfor a while that he might rise
to a leadership role, and itseems that Ice Universe is
suggesting that perhaps TM Rowecould be replaced by this guy.
Now he doesn't say that, butIce Universe is often very vague
with his leaks, so you kind ofhave to try to interpret what's
going on here.

(01:09:50):
Tm Rowe obviously has a lot ofpressure from Samsung fans and
also internally from the top ofSamsung as a company, right?
Because, remember, samsung is ahuge company.
Mobile is just one part of it.
It's a big part.
There's no doubt Mobile ismassive, but they have TVs,
they've got home appliances,they've got a semiconductor

(01:10:10):
business.
They make the chips that go intheir products.
They're a massive company.
So mobile is just one part andhe has a lot of pressure from
the upper leadership in Samsungas a whole.
He's the head of mobile, buthe's not the head of Samsung,
right?
So he has a boss as well, andso people have been speculating
could he be replaced?
I don't know.

(01:10:32):
I mean I don't know if IceUniverse is suggesting he's
going to replace TM Rowe ormaybe he's just going to get a
higher role in Samsung Mobile.
I think you know people who arefans of Samsung, like we are,
misjudge how much people don'tlike TM Rowe within Samsung,
because even though he hasstagnated the innovation, he's

(01:10:52):
also made the money by doing it,because he's cut the cost.
That's his whole thing.
Let's not be doing these crazyproducts, because that costs a
lot of research and developmentmoney and stuff like that, and
also let's put slightly cheapercomponents in some stuff because
then we get higher profitmargins.
You know, if you're his boss,you're going to like that part
because you're making more cost,more money per unit, right?

(01:11:13):
If you're his boss, you'regoing to like that part because
you're making more cost, moremoney per unit, right?
So, while they might not lovethe innovation and all that kind
of stuff that he's lacking,they certainly love making more
money.
Everyone loves that in yourbusiness.
So I don't know, tori, what doyou think?
This is a very vague rumor, butwhat do you think?
Just looking at the tweets,very little to go on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Well, you know, I feel like I'm kind of like along
the same vein.
Um, I think it may berefreshing, or or it may be like
the time for, like, a new,younger ceo who's probably a
little bit more innovative, like, like you know, I think, what,
uh, and we talked about thisbefore on the show, getting back
to that root of innovation, butthen also on the business side,

(01:12:13):
I do also understand that theydo need to them back to what
they were kind of originallyknown for in terms of that
innovation piece.
I don't know, I guess we haveto see.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
It could be you know better to connect with some of
the younger consumers, whichcertainly seems like one of
their goals.
So in that sense, I don't knowa lot about this guy's
background in terms of asidefrom the fact he's obviously
been an executive and engineerwith Samsung for a long time.
How does he feel aboutinnovation?
If you just read the quote,though, he said our hybrid

(01:12:44):
approach is the most practicaland reliable solution to meet
all the needs and put Samsungahead of the curve.
It seems like he's at leastinterested in continuing to
innovate.
I know the very top leadershipof Samsung wants Samsung Mobile
to innovate.
They said in their earningscall they were going to go back
to doing that.
So I would assume, if there isa change made, it's a change
that's made in the direction ofmore innovation, maybe less

(01:13:06):
trying to do the cost-cuttingdeal, which, at the end of the
day, I do think is good, becausethey're really trying to
compete against Apple at theirown game, and that usually
doesn't work when someone'salready established and has a
strategy that works, as acompany like Apple is good at
the cost-cutting the.
Let's just change the color ofthe phone and not add too many
new hardware features to savemoney, people will buy it anyway

(01:13:27):
.
They don't really want to tryto do that, because Apple is
already good at that.
You're competing againstsomething they're already the
best at.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
And they already have a loyal fan base.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Whereas you already have a fan base that cares about
innovation and you made moneydoing that for a long time I
feel like you could probablyfind someone who's willing to
push it back in that direction.
I'm not saying you have to goand spend crazy on new
components for every release,but at least give people a
reason to upgrade year over year, because if you want people to
continue to upgrade year overyear which right now Samsung

(01:13:58):
still has these yearly upgradecycles they're going to have to
do that.
Apple actually said they werethinking about going to not
yearly upgrade for certainproducts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Not the iPhone.
They're still going to do that.
That makes too much money.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
But certain other products, like the iPad maybe
and stuff like that, justrelease it when they're ready,
which would make sense.
But also somehow thesecompanies have built the hype of
every year there's a new launchand it makes a lot of money
because people pre-order them.
There's a lot of people who arejust super hyped about getting
that new thing and they like it.
I just don't know that that'sgoing to end anytime soon

(01:14:29):
because there is so much hypearound S25, S26.
We know that certain time ofyear it's like an extra holiday
on your calendar.
As a Samsung fan, you knowyou're going to get to watch the
Unpacked event.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
You'll get to see some cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Maybe you'll buy a new phone.
So it's kind of an extraholiday.
It's actually a holiday afterthe holidays because it's right
after Christmas.
You can get yourself anotherChristmas present with some of
that money you got for Christmas, Something.
Get yourself another Christmaspresent with some of that money
you got for Christmas, somethinglike that.
I think that's mostly it.
Someone else was asking me aquestion of on Sammy guru.
Someone was asking are we goingto have more other types of

(01:15:05):
content other than news?
And the answer is absolutely we.
You know, we just got a fullwriting team starting at the
beginning of August.
So me came on and we've hadother people join the team.
I'm working to bring a lot morecontent.
We're going to have a lot morereviews.
I'm going to start doing a lotof written reviews.
I talked about that before.
We're going to have a lot moredeals content, especially with
the holidays A lot of deals,Black Friday deals, Cyber Monday

(01:15:27):
, holiday deals for presentgifts and things like that.
We will have a lot moretutorial content once I bring on
a couple more writers.
So Meet's going to primarilyswitch to tutorials and not do
just news.
So we'll have more reviews,tutorials, deal content like
roundup of accessories and stuff, cool spotlights like that.
So news is not only the onlyplan forever.

(01:15:48):
It's just that in the beginning, news is the easiest thing to
get started on to get the siteout there, and it's topical and
it's something I already cover.
A lot on YouTube is likebreaking update news and stuff
like that and it's alsosomething I enjoy because I get
to keep up with Samsung stuffno-transcript updates happening

(01:16:21):
all the time so I think that'spretty much it, tori.
Anything else for you?
No, we're about to get out ofhere.
Get a little lunch.
It's 1 o'clock.
We're having a relaxingVeterans Day here here and
tomorrow I'll get this editedand posted for you guys.
And to the grind.
We really appreciate all youguys joining us every week.
We've got grown the podcastquite a lot around 500 downloads
every week.
Now we're growing a ton.
We started with like fivedownloads a week, you know five

(01:16:44):
months ago.
So we've 100x our weeklydownloads, you know.
So the effort's paying off.
If you know someone who's aSamsung fan and you know they
like Samsung, the podcast withthem.
We appreciate that, of course.
Check out the Discord.
We have the Sammy Guru Discordover there.
Come hang out with us and chatSamsung stuff during the week
and this week.
Make sure to keep expandingyour galaxy.
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