I bought a $3000 Samsung Phone + My Wallet Is Sad

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everybody.
This is episode number 18 ofthe Sammy Guru podcast.
My name is Jeff Springer.
With me, as always, my co-host,Torrey Torrey, say hi.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey, how's it?

Speaker 1 (00:06):
going and yeah, we're back again.
I just spent a lot of moneythis week on some Samsung
hardware from another country.
I could very well drop it whenI get it, and then I would never
be able to get any money backfrom it, because there's no
warranty.
And just if I dropped it, it'sgone, so we'll talk about that
later in the show um tory.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
How was your week, though?
Uh busy, uh.
I think this is my second weekback from fall break, so just
trying to get into the swing ofthings, uh, but the classes are
going uh really well over doingproofs so, uh, it's always a
favorite of mine.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I know know?
You know what I always say,Tori.
I just say when you're doingproofs, just make sure you keep
saying true things.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yes, I told him.
I was like, yeah, you know myreal analysis professor.
That's what he just kepttelling us.
I just keep saying true things,that's right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's one of my things.
I used to have a lot of sayingseven before I was semi-guru.
I used to have a lot of mathsayings when I was a professor
so, but you know, hey, at leastyou don't still work at that
circle k.
You know, tory used to work atthe circle k.
We were talking about that yeahbefore the show when I first
met tory, when he was my studentin uh, calculus one, like no,
or was it maybe no statsstatistics?

(01:18):
yeah, I don't, but I don't thinkI was working there no, you
weren't, but when you worked atthe calculus one 1.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'sa calculus one?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, you were working there when the calculus
one.
I remember because the calculusone class that Tori took for me
was a 7 am yeah, and I was anadjunct professor, so I was
still doing like my PhD and Iwas doing a bunch of stuff.
I was always trying to do abunch of stuff to make some
money, even before I startedbecoming an entrepreneur and
doing YouTube, and so I wouldalways be late or I would cancel

(01:46):
class or miss class becauseit's seven in the morning and I
would oversleep.
I'd be working till like 3.30in the morning or Tori wouldn't
be there.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
So Tori and I like never saw each other?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yes, yes, it's actually true, tori was so tired
because he was working multiplejobs while doing school.
And I was tired because I wasdoing multiple jobs while also
doing school my PhD programbecause I was an adjunct.
I had my master's, but I wasdoing my PhD program and so we
almost never saw each other,because either I was there and
Tori wasn't, or I canceled class, and so we didn't see each
other then.
So I would only see Tori whenhe came to my office hours.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, no, that's actually true, or I'll just
email him.
I could probably count on myhands how many times we probably
saw each other like five timesout of 30 or 40 classes, so you
know how Tori and I became suchgood friends and ended up doing
this podcast together, who knows, because we barely saw each
other the first couple times.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean the stats.
Actually I was there a decentamount of time.
We were both there.
That was the first one, so wekind of knew each other from
there.
But you know we didn't reallyget to talk too much.
So there's a little bit of funJeff and Torrey history there
behind the scenes action.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
It was just really because he would just wear his
Alabama jacket.
That's right.
I had an.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Alabama jacket and Torrey had some Alabama hat.
I think you had.
Yeah, and so we bonded overthat.
Our Alabama team is absolutegarbage this season.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, they are lighting him up.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Caden, daybor has destroyed our team in only seven
games.
It's pretty sad.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
They're lighting him up.
I don't know when do we go fromhere.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Do you think he could return?
I think he might get firedReally.
I mean, this is Alabama.
People expect to win this year,not next year.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I mean, honestly, I didn't have super.
After beat georgia I was likeeveryone was wrong about this
guy.
He's gonna be like he could bethe second, another nick saban,
like it could be amazing.
But after these last threegames, I mean the level of
discipline like he's justletting the players do whatever
they want yeah and it shows onthe field.
They got, you know, 20 penaltiesfor like 150 yards.

(03:41):
They've gotten more penaltiesso far this season than they did
all of last season combined inhalf as many games.
You know Saban's teams wereless disciplined the last few
years but he wouldn't put upwith the garbage he would make
them.
You know they'd be running like.
You know they'd be runningbleachers in the stadiums.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, all day he's like this guy.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
he's just like oh, it's okay, we'll improve later.
It doesn't really work inAlabama.
People are going to be like, no, you'll improve now.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, now you won't be here.
If you want a job, you will doit now.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
So I would say he needs to win the rest of the
games, whether we make theplayoff or not, which I don't
think we have a good chancebecause losing to Vanderbilt is
really bad, regardless of if wewent out.
But I think he needs to win therest of the games and I think it
needs to not look as sloppy.
If he wins all the rest of thegames, the penalties go down and
it doesn't look as sloppy.
Even if we don't make theplayoff, I think he keeps his

(04:33):
job.
If he loses even one more game,then I think he's going to get
fired.
Sorry, but 9-3 is not enough.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
9 three and not making the SEC title or the
playoff, Not enough to win overthe Alabama people.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
You know like if you're at ASU or U of A nine and
three is like the greatestseason in the history of the
program, but this is AlabamaLike if you're at ASU or U of A
like.
Last year U of A went nine andthree.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
They were like having a parade.
They're going to induct all theplayers.
They closed down to town tocelebrate.
They're gonna induct all theplayers into the hall of fame
last year because they went nineand three.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
But at alabama nine and three is just a little
different yeah, no one's gonnainduct you into the hall of fame
no, you're gonna.
Your coach is gonna lose theirjob.
Yes, the athletic directorcould lose his job.
Yeah, all the players who playon this team probably won't
start next year.
It's a little bit differentwhen you go 9-3 at a place like
Alabama.
Anyway, I'm pretty sad aboutthat, but we'll see.
Tomorrow they play anotherranked opponent in Missouri.

(05:29):
Yeah, they do, and I don't havehigh hopes because Missouri is
actually a pretty tough team.
They had a tough game last weekagainst Auburn, but I mean,
everyone in the SEC is tough.
So winning the rest of thesegames not a given by any stretch
of the imagination.
So we'll see what happens there.
So let's get into the Samsungnews.
We've got a lot of news thisweek, not a ton of hardware, but

(05:51):
we'll kick it off with the onepiece of sort of hardware news,
which is that I purchased theGalaxy Z Fold Special Edition.
Yes, purchased, as I said Iwould do, and I was spot on
about the price that I wouldhave to pay for the Z Fold
Special Edition.
I did pay $3,000, even well,plus tax, from the Korean
retailer that I've previouslypurchased phones from.

(06:13):
In the past.
I saw some cheaper listings,various places like eBay and
other places, but at the end ofthe day, I want to get the phone
quickly.
So I decided to go with theimporter that I've already
worked with in the past, becausethey usually ship it quickly.
Some people will, you know,lollygag around or they won't
use a shipping service that'llgive it to me fast enough.

(06:36):
And then the internationalshipping.
If you use the wrong shippingservice or you don't know what
you're doing with the customsform, that could delay it like
two weeks and I don't reallyhave two weeks.
I mean, the form will beworthless to me if I get it in
three weeks, because most of thehype and the chance to make
content will be died down, butwe will have full content.
It's a very exciting phoneoverall, just to run down really

(06:58):
quickly, all right.
So just to go over some of thespecs here.
For the Z Fold Special Edition,we have a 10.6 millimeter thin
when folded, 4.9 millimeter whenunfolded, which makes it 1.0
millimeters thinner than theGalaxy Z Fold 6 when folded, at
236 grams, it's also 3 gramslighter than the Fold 6.

(07:18):
This is despite Samsungoffering bigger screens, better
cameras and the unchangedbattery capacity.
So we do have the 200 megapixelprimary sensor here.
Eight inch screen on the insideand then on the outside a 6.5
inch dynamic AMOLED display witha 21 by 9 aspect ratio, so it

(07:39):
is wider than the cover screenon this guy.
I have the Z Fold fold 6 righthere, which is what we wanted.
The camera is a lot better.
Uh, it does have the sametelephoto and ultra wide camera
and the same battery life.
It also has the same processor,snapdragon 8 gen 3, and this
one only comes in one color,which is this black color that

(08:03):
has a little bit of a texture toit.
There's no other color options,mainly because this is only for
two markets.
So it wouldn't make a lot ofsense to have you know a ton of
color options when you have, allyou know, just one or two
markets that you're offering.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
And I agree.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
But it does look pretty nice.
I mean, you've seen probablysome of the renders because you
saw it launched this week.
We have some of them right here.
So I launched this week, wehave some of them right here.
It does look appreciablythinner than the Z Fold 6.
One thing I will say is thecamera is obviously a lot larger
because of the primary sensor.
I wonder if you don't have acase on if it's going to rock
back and forth a little bit morethan the Z Fold 6.

(08:36):
But I mean, this basically doesgive you the S24 Ultra camera
in a foldable, which issomething we complained about
and said we wanted when thefoldable was released.
So Samsung is listening to whatpeople have to say, trying to
provide that to people, and itdoes look pretty good.
Now, the one thing that is adowner about this that we didn't

(08:57):
realize beforehand was wethought that Samsung was still
going to allow S Pen support,but it turns out the Z Fold
Special Edition does not supportthe S Pen.
And that is because there's anextra layer over the top of the
front display digitizer thatallows use of the S Pen.
It's basically like a Wacomstylus right, just like it uses

(09:19):
the digitizer to allow you towrite.
They basically had to notinclude that on here, like that
same digitizing panel, so theycould make it thinner.
That allowed them to make itthinner.
So because of that 1.5millimeter extra reduction in
the thickness, that means noS-Pen on the outer part.
Now how much does that reallymatter to people at the end of

(09:42):
the day?
I don't really know.
Matter to people at the end ofthe day?
I don't really know.
I don't know.
It's not a huge deal, probablyfor most people, I would imagine
, but for me I like to have theS Pen.
I mean particularly because theS Pen works on the big canvas,
obviously like drawing and stuffand taking notes.
This is a much better device totake notes, and I think I

(10:03):
misspoke a second ago.
The S Pen, of course, works onthe outer display.
I'm sorry, on the inner display, not the outer display.
So the digitizing layer on theinner display is what I was
talking about, because this is,of course, where you would want
to use the S Pen anyway.
It's on the inner displaybecause that's mostly where you
would want to do your drawingand your note taking.
So and your note taking.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
So it doesn't support the S Pen anywhere yeah,
anywhere, but the regular.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Fold doesn't support it on the outer display anyway.
I think a lot of people don'trealize that they still don't
support the S Pen on the outerdisplay in the Z Fold 6.
People have complained aboutthat, but I don't think too many
people really.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean I guess it would be kindof nice to have it to write a
note sometimes, but I think mostpeople when they're doing any
serious note taking they'regoing to unfold it, because

(10:47):
that's the whole point right ofhaving the bigger, the bigger
canvas um, well, so then I havea question.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean because, like we, we've talked about this like
before, like, uh, maybe morethan likely, uh, this version
could be a look into next year'syeah, yeah for the Z Fold 7.
Yeah for the Z Fold 7.
So do you think them getting toa point where they do have

(11:12):
S-Pen support, like do you thinkthat would be of importance?
Or do you think Samsung justmay say, hey, we're just to keep
that deadness, we just can'tinclude that.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I mean, I think obviously, in order for this to
become the Z Fold 7, they haveto add some other stuff, because
people here would be kind ofupset if they just took the one
they released from October of2024 and released it in July
2025.
That's like eight, nine months,right.
People would be pretty upsetabout that.
So yeah, I mean I think the SPen support will come back to
the inner display for the Z Fold7.
I think probably they decidedto do this maybe not super last

(11:48):
minute because you can't reallyrelease a phone last minute.
You have to develop it.
It's not like you can decidetonight you're going to release
a phone tomorrow.
But maybe they decided it toolate in the cycle that they were
going to modify the Z Fold 6 torelease this special version.
Maybe they had a coupledifferent prototypes, but maybe
they hadn't perfected the S Pensupport and so they're like well
, you know, it's going to be twomarkets, so just release it

(12:09):
without the S Pen support.
But for a global launch, Ithink the S Pen support's got to
come back to the inside,because it's kind of, you know,
for your flagship foldable, youdon't want to have a downgrade
or a side grade.
This is just a regional release.
It's two countries and theydidn't really even have a
massive event.
It was kind of just like apress release on their website

(12:35):
and they had a little bit ofpress in Korea and China.
It's not a huge deal.
But if you have an unpackedevent and you're like, oh well,
last year's phone supported theS.
Pen, but not this year that'sdisappointing.
You can't do that as a bigcompany like Samsung.
It that's disappointing.
Like you can't do that as a bigcompany like samsung.
Uh, it's hard to it's hard todo that.
I mean, if you're going toremove something, you have to
have a good reason why.
Yeah, and it can't usually,unfortunately.
The sad thing is, when you're abig company like samsung, it
can't be that we just couldn'tfigure out how to do it

(12:55):
technically yeah, you know, likewhen they, when they were
innovation.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, they have to give you.
They have to give you a reason,whether you like it or not like
when they took away theheadphone jack.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
They're like well because everybody arms everybody
just love?
Yeah, some people love theheadphone jack.
Are you one of those guys who?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I, I was, I was like, what do you mean?
I don't get a headphone jack.
And then the following yearthey stopped including, uh, the
chargers in the box and alsoaround around the same time.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Not only to get rid of the headphone jack, they got
rid of the micro sd card forexpanded storage.
Yeah, yeah, so know there's somepeople who are still hanging on
to their micro SD and headphonejack, like they still got their
Galaxy S8 or Galaxy S7,whatever the last model was that
supports it.
I should know that, but I don'tremember.
But you know, when they got ridof that, you know they had to
write a whole narrative aroundit, like the year they had that
event.
Whatever year it was.

(13:38):
They're like well, no onereally does wired headphones
anymore because Bluetooth is nowubiquitous and that's the
future and we envision awireless future and all this
marketing speak.
They've got to give you a spiel.
So if they got rid of the S Pen, they'd have to give some
reason.
They'd have to be like oh noone really uses the S Pen.
You don't want to say thatbecause that's one of your
flagship products.
That would make you lookterrible.

(13:59):
I don't see Samsung saying well, nobody ever uses the S Pen.
Whether or not that's true ornot, I don't know, I use it a
lot.
I mean, I imagine some casualusers maybe not.
My wife I don't think it reallyrarely pulls out the S Pen or
S24 Ultra.
I've seen her maybe pull it outlike twice since she got it in
January.
So maybe a lot of average usersdon't, but I think the data

(14:20):
probably supports that.
The hardcore Samsung users,which there are millions of,
probably do use the S Pen a lotand that's why they keep
including it, because obviouslythey wouldn't keep including it
I don't think in the Ultraphones if people didn't use it,
because if they took the S Penout they could put a bigger
battery in there and so thatwould make people happy.
So they wouldn't keep doingthat if they.
You know, the tradeoff is, Ithink, there.
I think people, the fans, useit Anyway.

(14:43):
Z Fold Special Edition theequivalent of $2,036 is the
retail price in Korea.
I paid $1,000 markup to buy iton secondhand market.
Don't have a choice becausethere's no firsthand market here
, so you're buying it secondhandif you're buying it in the US
or Europe or any other marketthat is in Asia.
But yeah, I mean it's basically, you know it's about $300 more

(15:05):
expensive than the Z Fold 6 inKorea.
The Z Fold 6 is roughly $1,742.
That's the currency conversion.
Samit did it in the article.
It's $2,000, or is that $2million?
Yeah, $2,388,100 Korean won.
I think is the currency whichconverts to $1,742 US dollars.
That's what I call currency,like the valuation there.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, for real right.
$2 million is $1,700 US.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
That's interesting, but I didn't actually realize
that.
But yeah, so we'll have a lotof coverage on this.
I mean I'm going to try to makelike at least three or four,
maybe five videos on this, goingto do a full comparison between
this and the Z Fold 6.
I'm going to probably do acamera comparison with this to
the S24 Ultra.
Those are the two big ones Ithink everybody wants to see to
see how good the camera is.
And then maybe a couple ofother kind of pieces of content,

(15:54):
just like showing off how someof the multitasking works on
that foldable, if there's anydifferences in the software,
doing a full tour because Iactually haven't imported a
phone from Korea in a while andjust seeing if there's any
differences in the software frombetween this and the US might
be interesting.
So we'll have some content atSammyGuru as well.
That's mostly what I had to sayabout it.

(16:15):
The Chinese version is going tobe slightly different.
It's going to have some goldtrim around the outside, because
China loves gold trim on theirphones.
Samsung used to release some oftheir flip phones with gold trim
around the outside.
Just because China likes that.
That one's called the W25.
That's the name of it in China.
They always have these weirdnames with letters in China.

(16:35):
I don't know why, but that oneis basically going to be the
same as this one specs-wise, butwith some bells and whistles on
the actual look of the phone.
Instead of just being black,this one's pretty much all
blacked out.
The other one would be blackand gold, with some various
pieces to it.
So that is the Z Fold SpecialEdition, and we do have one

(16:57):
coming.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Go ahead.
Oh no, go ahead.
It's an interesting thoughtactually.
So you mentioned, for theSpecial Edition they'll probably
need to add some new features,you know like for the Z Fold 7.
What you know.
If you were to pick like one ortwo, what are some things you
think or you would hope thatthey include, or maybe go down

(17:23):
that avenue for them to includeon that phone.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's a good question.
And also I want to mention too,before I forget we actually did
a story on Sammy Guru that cameout from the Korean media that
Samsung is not planning to makebudget foldables, because some
people said they were at onepoint, and that they actually
have three to five foldablemodels planned for next year.
Three to five foldable modelsplanned for next year, so there

(17:47):
could potentially be a Z Fold 7and a Z Fold Ultra and maybe a Z
Fold Special Edition later inthe year.
You're talking about some reallyluxury phones which would be
crazy If they made an Ultra ZFold, I would imagine that would
probably cost close to $2,500in the US directly from Samsung,
not third-party importing likeI did with the Special Edition.
But to answer your question, Ithink obviously this one doesn't
have S-Pen support.

(18:07):
You've got to bring the S-Pensupport back.
I think they have to increasethe water resistance and dust
resistance because it's stillfairly minimal compared to what
you get on a phone like the S24Ultra.
It has obviously a lot moredust and water resistance than
what you get on.
A phone like the Galaxy Z Fold6 doesn't have much dust and
water resistance than what youget on a phone you know.
Like you know, the Galaxy ZFold 6 doesn't have much dust
and water resistance, so youknow, adding that would be

(18:30):
pretty huge.
I think I don't know.
I'm on the fence about if itneeds an even wider cover
display.
I'll have to tell you once Iget the Z Fold Special Edition
in my hand, because everyoneknows that I've been very
critical of the narrow coverdisplay and I don't like it on
the Z Fold.
I still use this a lot actually.
I mean I use it a lot when Isit on my couch for multitasking
and I've actually used it morein day-to-day than I have past

(18:53):
Folds, because it is a littlewider and this one is wider
still, so maybe this one is thesweet spot.
So I'll reserve judgment.
I think it needs a wider screenthan the Z Fold 6, but maybe
what is on here is enough to getthe job done.

(19:13):
I think they need to upgradethe ultra-wide and the zoom
cameras, because those are notupgraded.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
The primary camera on the.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Special Edition is upgraded, but the zoom and the
ultra-wide is basically the sameas on here.
They need a sharper underdisplay camera for selfies.
This one doesn't have an underdisplay camera.
They actually got rid of thatto also make the screen larger.
So there are some compromiseswith the special edition.
It gave people a lot of whatthey wanted.
It's kind of like the Note 7fan edition, although that one

(19:41):
was made because the other oneblew up.
I mean, that's a littledifferent.
The Z Fold 6 doesn't blow up.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
The Z Fold 6 is perfectly safe.
The Note 7 was like a grenade,so they had to make a fan
edition for people who wantedone, but they didn't want to
have their face charred.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
So they're like here's a fan edition.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
If you're a fan, we don't want to blow you up, so
enjoy this fan edition.
But you know, I mean, I thinkthose are pretty sizable
upgrades.
I mean those might not look thesexiest on the spec sheet, but
I mean include water, you know,increased dust and water
resistance.
Making sure the S Pen worked onboth displays would be huge, I
think.
No I think so too.

(20:18):
If it worked on the outerdisplay, that would be an
upgrade.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Because it's such a quick like.
Just a quick like, just a quicknote, like if you're writing
like something for your grocerylist or something yeah you don't
necessarily want to unfold it.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Most of the times you're taking serious notes.
You're definitely going tounfold it.
Um, cameras, upgrading those,those secondary cameras, the
selfie camera, those would allbe massive upgrades.
And of course I mean I wouldtend to say it would be awesome
if they could put a largerbattery in there.
But let's be honest withkeeping it even, even thinner
that's probably not happening.
So I mean I'm not going to saythat that's required, because

(20:49):
the battery life on the Z Fold 6isn't terrible.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
The.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Special Edition has the same size battery and of
course I don't have that phoneyet, but I would imagine it's
going to get similar batterylife and I'm perfectly okay with
the battery life on here.
Plus the Snapdragon 8 Elite,which we're going to talk about
in a second.
That's the new chip fromSnapdragon.
They had their event this week.
That's going to be more powerefficient, so that'll go in the
new Z Fold 7.

(21:12):
And so that should increasebattery life even without having
a larger battery itself.
So let's actually segue intothat, because you guys know I am
in fact the master of the segue.
That's what they tell me.
Fact the master of the Segway.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's what they tell me.
I'm the master of the Segway.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
So we're going to Segway into the Snapdragon 8
Elite, which is the newprocessor from Snapdragon.
A lot of people were asking methis week Let me get my water
here, why I wasn't in Hawaii?
because if you know anythingabout tech, you know every year,
qualcomm hosts their SnapdragonSummit in Hawaii, in Maui.
I always get invited and I gotinvited this year as well, but I

(21:51):
decided not to go just because,well, I did a bit of traveling
before this and I've had kidsand a family man and a lot of
these people who do YouTube thefact of the matter is it's
choice, but a lot of them who doall the traveling, they don't
have families.
If you look at, a lot of thematter is it's choice, but a lot
of them who do all thetraveling, they don't have
families.
If you look at a lot of theyounger youtubers who are there
in maui, there's a couple peoplewho do have kids and you know

(22:12):
that might be their one trip forthe year and that's fine.
But, um, a lot of peopleyounger youtubers they go to a
lot of these events because theywant to travel and I got no
kids.
That's great, but if you gotkids, you got a family.
You can't be I.
I don't want to be gone two orthree weeks out of every month
because you could be as ayoutuber.
If you're a successful youtuber, you could take brand
invitations and go to all theseevents you know around the world

(22:34):
, but I'd rather save my time togo to, like samsung developer
conference, the unpacked events,the ones that are super
important for sammy guru, um,and next year I am going to plan
to attend this one.
Put put it on my calendar.
I do want to go, at least onceor twice, and we'll see.
My wife may try to go with me,because a free trip to Hawaii is
not a bad deal, Right?
Not?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
a bad deal, but anyway getting into the
announcement.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
The key announcement was Snapdragon 8 Elite is the
new mobile processor fromQualcomm and it's going to be
the one that's inside this S25series Pretty much globally.
We know that Samsung has prettymuch canceled their plans at
this point to include theirExynos in-house processors in
the S25.
So Snapdragon everywhere, forthe Ultras for sure, the S25

(23:18):
Ultra.
This thing has some reallyimpressive specs.
They changed their namingscheme.
They used to call it Snapdragon8 Gen 1, gen 2, gen 3.
This one was supposed to be Gen4, but they made the jump to
Snapdragon 8 Elite, x, elitehere, snapdragon 8 Elite, and
that is because this is just ahuge paradigm shift in how they

(23:39):
do their mobile processors.
This one really isn't just amarketing speak.
The Elite processor reallybrings a lot of improvements in
processing power the ability tohandle AI tasks, the ability to
handle image signal processingin the camera, like for doing
all of your computationalphotography stuff that your

(24:00):
phone needs to do.
It has a lot of opportunitiesto also improve things.
Like I said, battery life,multitasking, which, of course,
samsung phones are well knownfor their multitasking
capabilities, so the Snapdragon8 Elite should allow you to do
that as well.
It has built-in ultra-wideband,which means that you should
overall get a better experiencefrom your 5G service if you have

(24:25):
ultra-wideband because it'sgoing to be integrated, you
don't have a separate modem forthat.
That should also help thisphone streamline.
Like Samsung has an OEM,they'll be able to streamline
their phones because they don'thave two separate parts for
ultra-wideband and then also forthe processor, and it's overall
just looks like a hugeimprovement to to what they're

(24:45):
doing here.
So, um, I was really impressed.
I watched the event I I dothink that it's a very valuable
upgrade to the processor and Ido think that the s25 ultra one
of the key reasons to upgrade tothis phone actually will be
this processor.
I've used the Elite series inthe laptops.

(25:07):
You guys know I have the GalaxyBook 4 Edge.
This is the Book 5 Pro 360, butI use the Book 4 Edge.
You know I use it every night.
I use it a lot on my couch aswell, when I'm sitting there
doing work.
That laptop gets insane batterylife the best I've ever seen.
No exaggeration on a Windowsmachine.
It gets eight or nine hoursbattery life on Windows machines
a lot Like I've never seen.
That's pretty good For aWindows laptop.

(25:29):
That's a lot of battery.
I mean my MacBook, like I said,can do a little better, but for
Windows it's very impressive.
So that is of an elite series,and now they're doing the same
thing with mobile.
So I have high hopes that thisis going to improve the battery
life quite a lot.
They benchmarked the processora little bit on various places

(25:50):
and it looks like it's it'simproved by quite about about 33
performance wise over thesnapdragon 8 gen 3 and uh yeah,
it looks like it's going to be.
Uh yeah, it looks like it'sgoing to be a massive
improvement here.
So I don't know, I mean this issomething that sometimes people

(26:11):
who don't really get into thetech world don't study the stuff
to do with processors that much.
But I think it's a good reasonfor average consumers to get
excited, because you know you docare about better battery life.
You do, obviously, you do careabout getting better pictures,
and this is also going to makeall that AI stuff that's going

(26:32):
on your phone happen faster soit doesn't slow down the other
stuff you're doing.
So I mean those sound likepretty good things right to you,
tori.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I think so too.
Yeah, like, I think so too,like, Because I only ever
started hearing about StampDragon until I started watching
your videos.
But it always seems like theseare going to be very welcome
updates that I think everyone isjust going to like in the
community.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, so we covered a whole bunch of things about the
chip.
There's benchmarks andeverything on the site if you
want to read it, but I wanted tomention that personally, I
think that this really is goingto be a huge shift for
Snapdragon in terms of mobile.
It seems like that they'refinally trying to compete with
Apple in terms of raw power ofthe chips you can find in

(27:20):
Android phones, because a longtime Apple's A-series Bionic
chips that they make themselves.
They've really kind ofdestroyed snapdragon in a lot of
ways, and now it seems likequalcomm is trying to hitting
back and really taking controlof the, the mobile processor
landscape, which should allowsamsung and android to be a
little more competitive when itcomes to performance.
So better gaming, betterconnectivity for 5g, better

(27:44):
cameras, computationalphotography, better battery life
, better multitasking All ofthat stuff should translate on
the Galaxy S25 series.
The S25 series should be one ofthe first smartphones in the US
running this new processor.
The OnePlus 13 could be thefirst one, so it might not be
the first, but it'll be one ofthe first.

(28:05):
Again, we don't know exactlywhen Samsung plans to launch the
S25 series yet we know it'sprobably in January at some time
.
It could be mid to late Januarythis year.
It could be a little later thanlast year, but it should be one
of the first phones to run thenew Snapdragon 8 chip.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I just think, too, with kind of like, where we're
getting to the phones, like interms of like price and
everything, like I really dofeel like the average consumer,
with all those features that youjust listed, where the
Snapdragon will kind of, likeyou know, enhance those Like I
really do feel like the consumeris going to really enjoy like

(28:45):
the products that they'regetting, really enjoy the
products that they're getting.
Now they may not feel inclinedto buy the next one immediately
the average consumer but Ireally do feel like this is
giving the consumer a good thingfor their buck in terms of
quality of the device incomparison with their Apple
counterparts.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I think it's great that Snapdragon is finally
trying to help Android becompetitive, because, of course,
you need a powerful chip tocompete with Apple.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
And.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Samsung doesn't make the chips that are in the S
series for themselves I mean, atleast in the US, but usually a
lot of places for the Ultras isa Qualcomm chip, and so they
need that power to be on par inorder for gaming.
And I mean, one UI can be assmooth as you want, but if it
doesn't have a great processorto run on the software on, then

(29:35):
it won't be great.
And though most people don'tget into the technical specs,
it's good to have someone whodoes care, like I do care to
tell you this is not just anaverage year over year upgrade
of the chip.
Sometimes it's like, oh well,they just changed the number on
the chip and, yeah, it's the newone and it's like a 5% increase
in performance and 5% increasein battery life and it doesn't

(29:55):
really do change anything elsewith any of the other facets of
your phone.
That doesn't seem to be thecase here.
There's quite a few differentfeatures that this chip is
really going to make better, andit should be a big part of
making your experience better ifyou buy an S25.
So we'll have more to say aboutit when we get the S25 or when
I get a phone that first runsthe Snapdragon 8 Elite.
But from watching the event onMonday I live tweeted it.

(30:17):
If you check out my ex I wassuper impressed and continuing
with my professional segueingskills.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yes, very professional.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
The good people at ARM are not too happy with
Qualcomm.
They're trying to ruinQualcomm's party this week
because the good people at Armwant more royalties from
Qualcomm's and they'rethreatening to cancel the
license that they have.
So Arm Technologiesbasically—so how do I explain

(30:48):
this to people who don't knowanything about tech?
This is a tough one.
So I mean, if you're a casualuser, most of you listening, I
know, probably know who ARM is.
But Qualcomm makes theSnapdragon 8 Elite, which we
just talked about.
That's the processor that runsyour phone, like that's the
brain, right, but the weirdthing is they don't make the

(31:11):
instruction set that tells thebrain of your phone how to
connect some of the tasks thatit has to do.
So arm actually makes thatinstruction set.
Arm is the company that createsthe instruction set that tells
all the parts of the brain ofyour phone, the Snapdragon 8
Elite, to do the things it needsto do, and so ARM is a separate

(31:35):
company, but they've had along-time license and
partnership agreement withQualcomm Because, of course,
they're kind of interconnectedright I mean essentially right,
since they're a CPU core core,you know company and they make
the instruction sets that tellsthe brain, like I said the
processor what to do.
They need to work with peoplewho are making good chips, like

(31:57):
qualcomm, and vice versa forthem to make money.
But apparently, um, qualcomm isa little frustrated, um,
because arm wants more money andthey put out.
Actually, I think the second dayis tuesday or wednesday of the
snapdragon summit is a littlefrustrated because ARM wants
more money and they put out.
Actually, I think the secondday it was Tuesday or Wednesday
of the Snapdragon Summit, whichgets a bunch of press.
They knew they did this onpurpose.
They told the media that theywere going to pull their

(32:19):
licensing agreement withQualcomm.
Like the day after theyannounced these new flagship
chips, they were raining ontheir parade.
They're like you guys arehaving that big celebration in
Hawaii.
Well, guess what we're tellingyou guys?
We're filing another lawsuitagainst you for anti-competitive
practices or whatever I forgot.
No, yeah, they're filing alawsuit against them basically
for trying to basically skirtaround paying them more money,

(32:43):
and it's all about money on bothsides.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
And then Qualcomm is filing a countersuit, I think.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
They've been tied up in court before.
They've had a couple ofdifferent lawsuits.
Qualcomm filed a countersuitsaying that they had some
anti-competitive practices onArm's side.
The S25 Ultra and the S25series as a whole could end up

(33:12):
seeing a massive price increaseif ARM were somehow to cancel
their agreement with Qualcomm,Because I think what will happen
if this occurs is that at thatpoint they would then no longer
be able to get the same pricingright, Because if ARM wins the
battle, then Qualcomm has to payARM more for the instruction
set they use in the processorsand those go on the S25.

(33:33):
And, of course, if Qualcommpays more for that, then they're
going to raise the price of theprocessors.
Samsung has to pay more for theprocessors Consumer has to pay
more for the phone.
Everything flows up to you.
And then your S25 Ultra is no,no longer 1299 for the base
model, it's 1399 for the basemodel.
So if arm does win this is akind of a complicated, you know,

(33:56):
legal battle, but you mightwant to keep an eye on it.
Of course, if you stay tuned toSammy guru, we'll be covering
it the whole time, so justbookmark.
Our article will be in the shownotes and you can follow up.
So meet, we'll update it as newthings come out.
But you may want to follow itbecause if arm wins, you might
play more in January potentially, because that's not going to be
something.
That's if they win and if thislawsuit plays out.

(34:17):
You know usually it doesn't payout that quickly, but if this
gets tied up in court and youknow Qualcomm has to pay some
increases as a result of of itbeing tied up in court could go
up.
I mean, I think not more than100, because that would just be
a lot, but I think it could goup 100.
And again, I'm just killing,killing the segues today.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, you are.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
And I'm also killing it with moving the mic around.
Usually I bump my shoulder intoit, but today I'm doing some
mic work.
Today I'm just doing a veryprofessional job.
Today I had to commend myself.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
You're doing good, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I'm trying to commend myself because I've had a long
weekend.
I'm a little tired, so I wasn'tsure if I would be able to
actually move this mic around ordo segues today.
So the other thing is thatpoints towards an increasing
cost for the S25 series is we'rehearing now from Ross Young,
who's a display analyst.
He's a leaker who does displayleaks.
He has a lot of sources insidethe factories in China that

(35:14):
create a lot of the displays,manufacture them Taiwan, et
cetera.
Samsung has scrapped theirplans to use the high-quality
M14 OLED in favor of stickingwith the M13 OLED in order to
cut costs.
So apparently Samsung is awarethat the S25 Ultra could
potentially have other thingsputting upward price pressure on

(35:35):
it, so they originally weregoing to put the M14.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's like writing on the phone, for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah.
So they saw the writing on thewall and they're like well,
we're not going to use the M14OLED, we'll use the M13 because
it'll be cheaper, and then if wehave to increase price because
of other things other componentsor potentially now the issue
with ARM and Qualcomm could alsoincrease it.
Now they know that, at leastthey have one place where they
can save costs.
Some people were asking me youknow, how big of a deal is this?

(36:01):
Is this really a massive deal?
And the answer is, in myopinion, it's not a massive deal
.
The OLED display on the S24Ultra is already fantastic.
I it's not a massive deal.
The OLED display on the S24Ultra is already fantastic.
I mean, there's nothing wrongwith the display on this phone.
It's actually a fantasticdisplay and so I wouldn't be too
concerned about that whatsoever.
So, at the end of the day, notreally that big of a deal.
I don't think.

(36:21):
So you don't really have toworry about it too much.
It's certainly brighter andyou've got better color accuracy
and stuff on the M14 OLED, sothere are some advantages if
they had went with it, but it'snot like it's going to make it a
worse phone or like youshouldn't buy the phone.
I would not say that this is anupgrade, where it's like this is
a make or break, like I'm goingto buy the S25 Ultra if it has
it and I'm not if it doesn't.

(36:42):
It's not that big of a deal.
I mean, of course, samsung'sdisplay is already at the best
in the business.
Yeah, I mean already when I usethis phone in bright sunlight.
It gets so bright.
No amount of even the Arizonasunlight can stop you from
viewing your Samsung phone indirect sunlight.
It's almost perfect.
So that's pretty much the story.
With the S25 Ultra, it lookslike a couple of things could

(37:05):
potentially increase the pricing, which is not what we want.
It's not exactly what we wouldlike to see.
But hey at the end of the day,everyone's probably going to pay
an extra $100 if it goes upanyway.
Samsung knows that.
So if it goes up, they're justlike hey, people are going to
pay it, and they probably will,because they'll give you a
pretty good trade-in for yourold device and they'll probably
pay you it.

(37:25):
You know why not?
I'm gonna get 800 for my s22ultra.
Tori is gonna be like oh, it'sonly 599 to upgrade and jeff's
gonna upgrade it for him anyway.
So he's like ah well, becauseyou know I'm a nice guy yeah,
tori's on team sammy guru, hereI'm gonna make sure tori and uh
and samit both get their uhphones upgraded so we can, you
know, all have s25 contentanyway.
Here's a teaser.
Not only do I have the seguestoday, I've also got the teasers

(37:47):
.
If you're not a display orprocessor nerd which some of you
may not be one thing that youdefinitely want to know is which
colors will you be able to getthe S25 series in?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
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All right, guys, we're back,and so now we're going to talk a
little bit about the coloroptions on the Galaxy S25, S25
Plus and S25 Ultra.
Even if you don't care aboutthe technical specs, like I said
, hey, you want to know whatcolor you can buy these in the
average consumer.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Definitely, Tori wants to know like what color am
I going to get, so let me runthem down here for you guys.
Can I beat them before they allsold out?
Exactly Because it's always theworst when you go to AT&T.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
We're out of that color and you're like all right,
he's like I'll get black.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, Because that's all that's left.
That's all that's left.
But yeah, so the colors are.
For the S25, you've got MoonKnight Blue, silver Shadow,
sparkling Blue, sparkling Greenshadow, sparkling blue,
sparkling green.
For the S25 Plus, you havemidnight black, moon night blue,
silver shadow, sparkling blueand sparkling green.

(40:16):
So if you notice, there, theS25 and S25 Plus have the same
four colors in common, plus, theS25 Plus gets an extra color
the S25 doesn't have, which ismidnight black.
Midnight black was a previousSamsung color.
It was last available on theGalaxy Note 9.
So a little bit of Samsunghistory for you guys.
See, I do know some Samsunghistory.
People are like well, jeff,sometimes you don't remember

(40:37):
stuff in the podcast.
You're supposed to be SammyGrew.
Well, I know some stuff, let metell you.
And then here's the unfortunatenews.
All those exciting colors likesparkling blue and sparkling
green sound pretty interestingto me, but the s25 ultra doesn't
get either of those.
It gets titanium black,titanium blue, titanium gray and
titanium silver, and what Iwant to know is why in the hell

(41:00):
does the phone have a gray and asilver color?
gray and silver are basicallythe same, unless it's like a
mirror silver, like the note 10,like the note 10 had, like that
reflective silver yeah, itbetter be like that.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
That was beautiful.
That was beautiful, that wasthe aura glow.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yes, they need to bring that back for the silver.
So if they bring that back forthe silver, I'll eat my words.
I'll shave my head on thepodcast.
Yeah, I've got all these thingsare.
Now I'm gonna shave my head onthe podcast.
At some point my wife is gonnabe upset because I'm gonna have
to end up doing it because Ican't say and then not do it.
But I highly doubt that that'sthe case.
It's probably going to be likea understated, boring silver and
then a darker shade of thatwill be the gray.

(41:36):
So I'm a little disappointedbecause I want the exciting
colors on the ultra yeah thatyou know that.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
That's like uh, because right after the, you
know, hcc stopped making phones.
My next phone was the Note 9.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, did you have the midnight black?
Is that what you had?

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I had, because the
other color was the sparklingsilver.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
That was the Note 10.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Sorry yeah, yeah, no, actually it was the Note 10.
I remember that?

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Oh, it was the Note 10.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
My first one was the 9, and then I wasn't going to
upgrade, but then I saw thatcolor oh, and you got aura glow
I wanted it, but they were soldout oh yeah, every at&t store I
went to, so that was verypopular.
Yeah, actually I might have topurchase one of those on ebay,
just so I have one in the officeI like to have some of the
older samsung relics.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
You know my collection.
That might be one I could getfor a good price oh yeah, you
know I see how that is.
I also want to do some likerevisited, like do like a
re-review of a phone, like fiveyears later.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I thought people would like that on the YouTube
channel, so we might actually dothat yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I think people would watch that.
Do you think people would watchthat?

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
You guys have to let us know If you want to hear
about that.
I could use an older phone andtalk about the experience of
software, but the one thing wedon't know from this list is
these are the standard colors.
Samsung also has usually fourexclusive Samsungcom colors for

(42:59):
each phone, and so those are noton this list.
So the S24 Ultra will get someexclusive colors, probably on
the Samsungcom, but I wouldn'tget too excited for them being
really, you know, flashy.
So if you want like somevibrant, crazy colors, like if
you want sparkling green on theUltra, it's probably not going
to happen, which is realfrustrating to me because I

(43:22):
would like Samsung to bring backtheir exciting colors like the
Aura Glow and also the EmeraldGreen, the Mirror Emerald Green
from the S6 Edge, which I talkedabout before.
That's one of my favorite colorsever on a Samsung phone.
I have that one somewhere in adrawer somewhere.
I love that phone.
The color of that is just Imean, I can't use it anymore.
It's super old, but I mean it'sa beautiful phone.
I wish they would bring backsome exciting colors to the

(43:43):
Ultra line because basically,you know, looking at this color
list, you're getting punishedfor buying the much more
expensive phones.
Like you don't get access tothe more exciting colors.
If you want an interestingcolor, you've got to buy the S25
or S25 Plus.
I mean, I don't think that'sfair.
You should be able to get someflashier colors even if you buy
the Ultra.
So I don't know, tori, if youlook at this list, I mean you're

(44:07):
going to upgrade your S22 Ultrato S25 Ultra.
Let's just assume these are thecolors and they're not.
We'll hear about the Samsungexclusive ones.
They'll leak, probably inDecember.
We'll talk about it.
We'll reevaluate that.
But let's say you're going togo now titanium black, titanium
blue, titanium gray, titaniumsilver, given that titanium
silver and gray are almost thesame.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I know, I don't know, it's really that um probably
have to be titanium blue that'sprobably what I would go with
too that's what I'm vibing with,like the way I'm picturing it.
I think that's how it's goingto be.
And then I'm trying to reallypicture, like that, titanium
gray and titanium silver, likeI'm thinking maybe it'll be like
different shades of gray.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I think the gray will be like a darker one, because
they have one this year for theS24 Ultra.
That was actually the one I had, well, until I switched them.
Because the oleophobic coatingis so garbage on the old one, I
switched to my orange one.
This is actually the orange.
You can see the orange.
This is one of the Samsungexclusive colors was orange, so
I got the orange for the S24.
Ultra.
So I got the orange for the S24Ultra.
So I take that back.
They did have some oneinteresting color.

(45:09):
It's just usually with theUltra colors they mess them up
too, like one year I think itwas last year, I don't know this
year they don't have it.
They had a red, but then whenyou got it, like someone bought
it I think Flossy Carter boughtit on YouTube and he unboxed it
and he's like this is basicallypink, it's not really red.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's like faded I don't want a pink phone
.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Like, don't do that.
Like Apple, who tricked me withthe Desert Titanium, it's rose
gold.
Now I have a rose gold phone.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yes, because I never had time to return it.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
So, I had to put a black case on it.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Otherwise I have to walk around with a rose gold
iPhone, which luckily I don'tuse.
It tricked me.
I didn't even need to get likelike the color naming down.
Yeah, like you know, like sureit sounds nice, but like the
finished product maybe, maybelike, say, the color once you
have a finished product.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
So I mean these ones that are called sparkling blue
and sparkling green.
They better be sparkling yeahif I buy one, I'm probably going
to buy a sparkling blue orgreen probably green of the s25
plus yeah, um if I get it.
If doesn't sparkle, I'm filinga lawsuit against you, Samsung
there you are Just like.
Arm did against Qualcomm.
Let us sue you for falseadvertisement If I buy a phone
that's sparkling green and I getit in some muted like shade of

(46:19):
green that doesn't looksparkling.
Better sparkle.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, like I'm imagining like maybe like there
is like glitter effects, yeah,yeah, yeah, glitter effects,
that would be cool.
That's what I'm picturing.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Something more interesting, you know.
Yeah, like the Aura Glow, wereally haven't had a super
interesting color.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
No, I mean I think that's Since the Note 10.
They were supposed to releasethese like crazy reflective
colors on the original GalaxyFold.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
But then, of course you know, they sent out their
original units and, like, thephone was crumbling into pieces
and the display was ripping toshreds and so they had to hold
the launch.
And then they scrapped all thecolors and they're like oh, you
guys wanted to buy them in allthese cool like orange and
yellow reflective mirrorfinishes.
Oh well, guess what?
Now we offer it one color andit's black.
Yep, so here you want it.

(47:04):
You preordered that interestingcolor.
Well, guess what?
We got Black Fold for you.
You're going to like it.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
You're going to pay thousands of dollars and you're
going to enjoy it and you'regoing to like it and you better
not complain either, or we'llset it on fire, just like we did
the Note 7.
Yes, don't play.
We're not playing today.
Don't play with us.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Anyway.
So yeah, they had reallyinteresting colors for the, and
then, once all the crazy stuffhappened, where they sent them
to the media and everything wasgetting messed up, when they did
the final release, they're likeah, we scrapped all those.
Sorry guys, it's in black now.
So sorry if you ordered thebluish-yellow one that you
thought really looked cool.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Not getting that now and I say bring back the fun
colors.
I think that again adding to,if you really want to get
consumers to buy, like, keep theinnovation crazy, fun colors.
Uh, I remember like people likewho never you know, because

(47:59):
obviously my, my circle is not aenthusiast um, you know, I
remember people like yeah, Iwant that phone.
Like when they saw the auraglow.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Like yeah, some people who are average consumers
actually do buy it based on thecolor yeah, I think some people
are enthusiasts to understandthat, like people who are like
not reading tech blogs every day, they don't really give a crap
yeah, snapdragon 8 elite likethey don't know what the hell
that is, they have no idea.
They have no idea what thesnapdragon 8 elite is no they
don't know who arm is they.
I mean, if they listen to thispodcast on accident and find out

(48:28):
.
That's the only way they wouldknow.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
I didn't even know.
Tori didn't know who Arm was.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I mean, they would never know, like, how many
gigahertz is the max.
You know clock speed on theSnapdragon 8 Elite, you know
what can it enable for AI?
They don't care about any ofthat, they only care, like,
about the color and does thephone run smoothly?
Yeah does the camera take goodpictures?
yeah does it get long batterylife?
Those are the questions thatthe average consumer asks.
They don't care how all thosethings happen.

(48:54):
Like as enthusiasts.
We're like, yeah well, these 10things in the snapdragon 8
elite can make those things thatyou want happen.
And they're like I don't reallycare, just make them happen yeah
, so you know we're wrapped upin, like how those things happen
, and does the processor havethe requirements to make all
those good things happen?
They only care that they happen, and if they have a cool color
on top of those things happening, well, even better.

(49:15):
That that's going to make iteven more exciting for the
average person.
So, anyway, we'll definitelyrevisit the colors, I'm guessing
, probably sometime in Decemberlast year, ice universe
published the samsungcomexclusive colors too, so we'll
probably know all of them beforeI head to CES, which will be
January 6th.
I think I'll go to CES for aweek.

(49:35):
I really hope, samsung.
I'm just again begging you guysif you listen to this podcast,
do not hold the event the sametime or right after CES.
Give us a week buffer.
Let me get back and chill.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Not chill because I have a bunch of work to do.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
But at least let me get back from Vegas and chill
for a little bit before I haveto go and cover Unpacked,
because that would be reallynice and I'm a guy who sits here
, does nothing but cover yourcompany all the time, so you
could be nice to me.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
He is the guru.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
For one week just give me a little bit of time.
A couple of other interestingstories the Galaxy Ring 2, and I
thought this was veryinteresting.
A patent report came out thatsuggests the Galaxy Ring 2 could
have a resizable design.
So it could actually have adesign.
So you don't have to buy adifferent size, you just get it

(50:24):
and you can resize it on yourfinger.
So you don't need to order asize 5 or a size, you just order
one size or like a larger,extra large, you put it on there
and it expands a little thingthat expands or contracts.
So this would eliminate theneed for them to have so many
different skews.
Yeah, as a company it's alwaysbad to have a lot of skews, and
I'm actually finding this outmyself because, as I told you

(50:46):
guys a few weeks ago, I'mstarting a new case company with
my friend Vu Kondrick at Onefor All and we are making a lot
of progress that we'll belaunching.
I can tell you guys who listento the podcast.
It's a secret but I'll let youguys in on it because you're
podcast listeners.
You guys are the real fans thatlisten to the podcast.
We'll be launching that theMonday of Black Friday week, so
Novemberth actually one weekaway, because it's October 21

(51:09):
month away we'll launch our casecompany and I can tell you,
having a lot of SKUs makes itdifficult, makes it difficult to
fulfill, makes it difficult toload them into your website.
Samsung wants to reduce how manySKUs they have for the ring and
right now they got like ninesizes and three or four colors.
I forgot how many three or four, that's like 27 to 36 skews.

(51:31):
You don't want to have thatmany.
So if they were just like small, medium and large and they
could resize, that reduces it bylike 66 percent like two-thirds
that would be huge.
I think this would be a massivefeature because I think at least
some of the people who wantedto order the ring um, in the
beginning they didn't, becausethey didn't want to have to
order the sizing kit and then goback and place the order.

(51:52):
They wanted to get it rightaway.
So this allows people to thenmake that impulse purchase.
Yeah, because it's like.
Well, it's like with anythingonline, people are very short
attention spans now, so it'slike I'm going to buy the Galaxy
Ring.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
You're going to read down the next Exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
But if you're like I'm going to buy the Galaxy Ring
, but then Samsung's like, ohwell, we've got to send you this
kit first and it'll take 7 to10 days.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
And then, once you try it on your right size, you
go back and order it.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Well, you might forget about it by the time you
try the kit on, people want itnow.
Yeah, so this might help themsell a lot more rings, because
people would like add these tocart as an impulse buy with
their phones, just like they dothe watches.
Right, the watches.
People are like, oh, I'm buyinga phone and they're going to
give me a discount on the watch,because Samsung usually give
you a discount on the watch ifyou buy a phone.

(52:40):
Be like oh well, I'm buying thephone, they give me a discount
on the ring, I'll get that ring.
But the last launch it poppedup.
It's like we need to reallysend you a sizing kit, and they
made it so that you really couldclick off of it and just order
whatever size you wanted, whichis what I did, and that's how I
ended up with a ring thatdoesn't quite fit, so it wasn't
a great idea, but I mean I didit.

(53:01):
But a lot of people were scaredby the fact I said, oh, you got
to get a sizing kit, and thenthey probably forgot to come
back and order, or they decidedthey didn't care enough to order
anymore that might help samsung.
So I think this could beinteresting.
Um, we have a picture of howthe patent would work.
It's basically how you wouldthink it like, allows it to like
.
You know a little bit of amechanism that allows it to like
, uh, expand or contract on thefinger, um, and it.

(53:23):
I think this could be a bigdeal.
I think it could be impressive.
If they do this and then theyalso improve, like the gestures
we talked about before, and theyimprove the step tracking a
little bit more, the ring couldend up being a solid product.
I wear it every day.
You guys have seen me on thepodcast.
This is basically my weddingring.
Now.
Nicole's fine with that I'vebeen wearing I like it Tracks my
sleep If I don't feel likewearing my watch, if I wear my
regular watch and not mysmartwatch, I can still travel

(53:44):
on my health stuff because Ihave the ring.
So I didn't have to feel bad.
If I take off my smartwatch, Istill get my statistics.
I get my hit of dopamine when Isee my steps going up so.
I like the watch for thatreason.
Is it expensive?
For that purpose?
Yes, but for people who do havedisposable income and like tech
, I think the watch with thisresizing kit could be increasing

(54:06):
in sales next year.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Well, yeah, I mean that's what I was actually going
to ask.
I mean because you know, Idon't really hear very much, I
don't even know, besides you,anyone with the ring, but has or
do you feel like it's beensuccessful enough to profit or
to warrant?
Yeah, from what we've heard, isthat it?

Speaker 1 (54:24):
has hit and exceeded their original targets.
Remember, it sold outoriginally.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, and they had to restock it.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
So it actually exceeded what they thought it
would do.
They had to kind of I mean,Samsung is a little bit, they're
a little more like optimistic.
They're a little more cautiouswith their projections.
Apple like, oh, we're going tosell a billion of these units,
and that didn't always work out.
Because they're like, oh, we'regoing to sell like so many of
these Vision Pro VR headsets at$3,500.
And they did not.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I don't know if anyone read.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
This is not Apple News Podcast.
But they're going to scrap theVision Pro.
It's getting discontinued.
Actually they're planning todiscontinue it.
Who would have thought?
$3,500 headset that does almostthe same thing as a $400
MetaQuest.
No one wants to spend $3,100more.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Who would have thought?

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I mean I would have never been able to figure that
out and be like oh, $400, $3,500.
The average person's like Ithink I'll spend $400.
And then that's it.
I mean, at the end of the dayit's a cool tech demo and it
does have some advantages, butnot enough to make the average
person buy it.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Apple's not giving up this, but not enough to make
the average person buy it.
Now Apple's not giving up.
This is just an interestingaside.
They're going to make a smallerone, which Samsung is also
planning to do still, I think,one they're going to call Vision
Pro Air.
Of course, like a MacBook Air,It'll be thinner.
It might just be smart glassespotentially.
I think that'll sell a lotbetter because it's also going
to be cheaper.
Apple can get away withcharging somewhat of a premium,

(55:47):
charging eight and a half timesthe nearest competitor that has
almost the same features.
You can't get away with that.
It doesn't matter who you are.
Even most luxury brands can'tget away with that.
It needs to be eight timesbetter or it needs to be a
purely collector's product.
When it comes to watches, rolexcan get charged whatever they
want, because it's all about thelook.
It's not necessarily about whatit does, but when it comes to

(56:11):
tech, it's still about what itdoes.
The look is important, but itstill has to do something to
make you want to pay for it.
Like a Timex and a Rolex, theyboth tell time, they do it in
different ways, but they both dothe same thing.
One of them just has looks alot better, and that's what that
particular hobby is about.

(56:33):
Tech is not all about the lookthough it's, it's partly about
the looks, but not entirely notfor real.
Um, so the next story uh, youknow we can't go an entire week
without having an ai piece ofnews on this podcast, because
you know this is 2024.
You got to talk about AI.
There's a story that came outthat says that Samsung may allow
Galaxy AI to change thesettings on your Galaxy devices

(56:56):
automatically for you.
I don't know that I want this,so let me just kind of tell you
the story first.
It says that basically, samsungwould then have the opportunity
to learn what settingspreferences you have, and then
it would be able to predict whatsettings you want to change, or

(57:18):
even potentially, like what youneed, which keys need to be on
your keyboard at any given time,before you even use those keys.
So what I mean by that is youwould be able to like be typing
on your Galaxy or your Samsungkeyboard and you know, let's say
, you're going to go and youknow you need to reach this far

(57:39):
side of the keyboard, but itknows it's in this hand.
It would slide that part of thekeyboard over for you
automatically.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yeah, that would be cool.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
I think that would actually be cool, but the thing
is it would have to be a way forme to only turn it on for
certain pieces, which Samsung ispretty good about, because I
wouldn't want it to change allmy settings.
Like, what if you know the AIlike thinks that I want?
Like if it starts messing up mybrightness in certain settings
and it messes up in a way Idon't want it.
Then that would be, I would getpretty frustrated about that

(58:06):
Cause, obviously.
I am I mean most people would.
I am a tech aficionado and Ilike my phone a certain way.
I don't want it messing withcertain things, but like the
keyboard thing, I can see thatbeing very useful, like if it
knows I'm doing it with thishand and knows I need to reach
over, and it knows, like it canmaybe detect that you're maybe
doing an activity that whereyour other hand is not free, or
something it could make thosethings easier.

(58:27):
Right, reachability, thingsautomatically turned on one hand
mode automatically, things likethat.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I could see that being useful.
What do you think, Tori?
Do you use this kind of feature?

Speaker 2 (58:37):
maybe, oh yeah, no, I think I mean, like most average
consumers would definitely wantto use that.
You know, because, like whenyou think most of us are, I
don't know too many people whodo like the voice.
You know to text, you know formost things, but a lot of times
people are doing a lot withtheir hand and these phones are
like so big.
Now, you know, but the focuswith like one UI, like you know,

(59:01):
re-centering things back tojust using with the one hand, I
feel like that'd be a muchwelcome addition.
And I feel like that would be amuch welcome addition, you know
, instead of like having toreach for certain things or
depending on how you're layingdown or maybe sitting, you know
like that will really help theassistant.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
I think so too.
Yeah, I think people would usethis feature.
I mean, like I said, I think itwould have to be such that I
could turn off this feature asit pertains to certain settings.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I would like an easy turn off too, as it pertains to
certain settings.
So, like, I would like a easyturn off.
Yeah, it would be nice.
I don't want to sift through alot of menus.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah, yeah, if like in the galaxy I menu, it's like
here's like whatever they callit.
Let's say they call it like aisettings.
If you could have like a toggleinside ai settings that says
like display keyboard, blah,blah, like, okay, I don't want
it to do anything that affectsmy display, turn that off.
I don't want to do anythingthat affects you know, like my

(59:54):
quick panel or something Iwhatever.
I don't want it to do anythingthat affects these specific
aspects, because these arethings I like a certain way and
I don't want ai to interpretwhat I like because it might not
do it correctly yeah, um now,of course I would test it to see
how it does in the beginning,but I would imagine certain
things it would mess up becauseAI is still not perfect, but
there would be some places thekeyboard.

(01:00:15):
I would definitely give it ashot and I could see it being
useful.
So I'm not going to say no tothis entirely.
I do think that it could besomething that might be
interesting in the futureSegwaying, again with a
beautiful segue.
you're talking about One UI, oneUI 7, of course, we have to

(01:00:35):
have some more information aboutOne UI 7.
And so let's take a look atthat, and so let's go to the
link.
My computer is, of course, onceagain deciding to be very rude
today it's like it's like, no,we're not going to let you visit

(01:00:55):
this link and I'm like, well,you know what, we're going to do
it anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Cause I'm the boss of this computer.
You put some extra informationin here.
That's why, I guess, probablywhen I pasted it into the word
document.
Anyway, the Galaxy One UI 7.0leaks that we saw at SDC have
now changed quite a bit.
So you guys remember when I sawthem at SDC 2024, the quick

(01:01:22):
settings.
They looked a certain way.
Everything looked a certain way.
Well, Samsung has alreadychanged some of these things and
a new internal build actuallyappeared in a video on YouTube.
Someone who is within Samsungor has access to an early phone.
They posted new screenshots ofwhat this looks like.
So now the quick panel has beenredesigned a little bit.
From what I saw at SDC, you canactually see right there Now

(01:01:46):
they've made it.
So the tiles are a little bitwider.
It's like the brightness andthe volume tile this one right
here you can see it's a littlewider.
Those were individual tiles andthey were a little smaller, so
it was a little more broken up.
I think it looks a littlebetter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
It looks a lot cleaner.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
I do think these might end up actually being
resizable in the end.
When I played with it at SDC, Itried to resize them.
If you actually look at myvideo where I covered the early
build on that demo device, Itried to resize them and you
couldn't.
But I think they might beresizable by the time we get the
stable build.
That's just a gut feeling ofhow I kind of feel like Samsung
might be trending in that way.

(01:02:21):
This is what they look like whenthey're expanded.
So the full tire.
You know quick settings.
We still have the two separatesides, so the left is
notifications and the right isthe quick settings.
This is the notifications.
Those haven't changed much.
That looks exactly like it didwhen I did the video at SDC.
This is the camera UI.
Remember, we moved this stuffto the bottom so it's more
one-handed.
I think people do like that ingeneral.

(01:02:43):
Also, you've got the littlemenu there that expands to the
different modes.
There's a little four-dot menu,so this makes it a little more
easy to use.
At the top when you're in videomode, it shows you like your
resolution and like yourdifferent modes.
So then you have like that onthe top and the modes on the
bottom, so you can easily accessyour shutter and all that stuff

(01:03:03):
.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Oh, I like that, that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
They also have a new charging animation.
So this is something that Ididn't get to test um at sdc
because I didn't get to unplugand plug the phone in, obviously
because it was hooked up to ademo area.
But this is the animation we'retalking about.
When you plug your phone in,you know how it like, makes a
little animation and shows youthat it's charging and then it
shows you the percentage,exactly the circle this one's

(01:03:26):
going to be new.
It's going to be a pill shapedanimation, oh and so it'll be
like a little pill shapedbattery, and you'll be filling
it up with green which is beingcriticized for being like
you-know-who Apple, becausethat's how theirs looks too.
It doesn't look too apple-y,but it is close enough that it's
obviously inspired by the scentof a certain fruit, as Samsung

(01:03:47):
would say in their new HomeUpmodule.
The scent of a certain fruit,yeah, and it makes a little
different animation.
It also animates.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
It switches up a little bit, yeah, it does look
nice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
People have been asking for this.
I say people Hardcoreenthusiasts have been asking for
the new charging animation foryears.
I don't think the averageconsumer cares.
They don't even notice what itdoes when they plug in their
phone.
This is just people who arelike you know, people who have
time to think about this, likeus.
We, we've been asking for it,uh, and then it also makes a
little animation at the top, um,and shows the new charging icon
at the top with a little pillshaped as well, with the same

(01:04:22):
like green um charging now thatlooks the same that it did when
I was at sdc.
Um, of course I didn't get tosee the actual animation because
I didn't get to unplug and plugit in they probably would have
have been pretty upset aboutthat if I started disassembling
the demo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
They'd be like what the hell is this guy doing?

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
We already let him take all these pictures and now
he's disassembling the demo area.
So I didn't do that, but itlooks interesting.
Overall, I think they're makinggood progress.
They also changed one of themost controversial things that I
covered at SDZ and remember therainbow gallery icon.
Well, apparently they changedthe rainbow gallery icon now in
7.0.
It is now like this it is apinkish-orange gradient.

(01:05:01):
So this is remember last week Ishowed you the concept icons
that we thought was going to beall red.
Well, it looks like this is nowreddish-orange gradient which is
a little bit different thanwhat Ice Universe originally
kind of said, that it would bein the leaks.
So I don't know how I feelabout it.
It kind of reminds me of theGalaxy Store icon because that

(01:05:24):
has a pinkish-orange gradient.
It looks like they're just likelet's just copy the one we
already have in the store andthen just overlay the flower
that we have in the originalgallery and we'll just darken
the colors and the gradient andwe're done.
But the crazy thing about this,though, that I think it still
looks disjointed because thesettings icon is like flat, with

(01:05:45):
black and silver settings cog.
The voice recorder is stillflat, my files are still flat,
the clock is still flat.
There's no gradient on any ofthe other stock icons that you
can see here.
The calendar looks like itmight have a little bit of
gradient, and a couple of otherpeople on x leaked some other
icons that weren't in this guy'svideo.
the messages is now like a blueto white gradient yeah but I

(01:06:07):
really feel like if they'regoing to do the gradient, they
need to do it on all of them orit just looks disjointed.
And I also feel like if you dothe gradient on all of them,
then it's going to look like acheap ripoff of a chinese
android skin, like xiaomi orhuawei, so I don't know, but it
just seems kind of disjointed,like to have this settings cog
that's black and silver, withthe gradient gallery icon.

(01:06:28):
I don't know.
I mean the stores, the galaxystores, always had kind of a
gradient look.
So I don't know, what do youthink, dory?
What are your thoughts on thenew icon evolution?

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
okay.
I feel like okay, because theway the colors are now currently
I like them.
But you know, even looking atwhat we looked at last week,
with just like the kind ofswitch or the gradient of the
colors or the transitioning ofthe colors like a little bit
more like darker in some areas,lighter in some areas, yeah like

(01:07:03):
I just feel like it kind oflooks exactly like how you said.
It's kind of like a cheapversion.
So I just, I don't know, eitherkeep it or just change the
colors, just like a little bitslightly, but definitely keep
the designs.
I like how the designs are andI'm glad they kind of not made

(01:07:23):
it very colorful, like with thepicture icon that we were
looking at or the gallery icon.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
You mean the rainbow one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think thisis an improvement from the
rainbow one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, way, waybetter.
Yeah, yeah, I feel like thatwould be too much going on.
I guess I'm okay if a couple ofthe icons are gradients and a
couple of them aren't.
It just seems like to make it aunified look that's like
branded.
You would want most of them tobe a similar theme Like the
settings, one is far removed.

(01:07:49):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, forsure, I mean I know, settings is
usually not very colorful onany phone, but the actual like
design of the icon that's on topof the black portion of the
settings, the cog icon, has ayou know, striking departure
from the other ones as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Well, you know.
Okay, here's what I like.
I like and when you say brand,I actually like that.
I like the colors that theyhave and the white icons.
That just looks really nice tome.
I don't really have many otherSamsung people and again, I

(01:08:25):
don't even think a lot of theaverage consumers even look at
that.
It's probably more so for thePCs.
I don't really know either.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
what is wrong with the current icons?
I mean I guess they're notperfect, but I mean I don't know
.
I don't know that these are amassive improvement over the new
ones.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
You, can see actually if you look at the Galaxy Store
icon right there that looksvery similar to the gallery.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Now, right, so they're like let's just copy and
paste.
And why would the gallery?
In the store have the samecolors?
I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
And if you look at samsung news, look at the
samsung news icon that one hasthe same color profile too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Yeah, it does, it does.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
So it's like they're just putting this like pink to
orange gradient everywhere nowyeah, I mean that's like the
majority of like, like when Ilook at the camera, the store,
the gallery, contacts, but Iguess you know it's all a very I
mean, I guess you can't, uh, Iguess you can't be too upset
they said we didn't like therainbow, and they got rid of
that, so yeah, I mean, I likethis better.
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
I like this better than the rainbow so if anybody
on the samsung dev team'slistening, you know I'll deal
with this, even though I stillthink it's a little disjointed.
The design.
But as long as the rainbow ismy main point of contention, I
didn't like that because it'stoo close to Apple or one of the
Chinese OEMs.
This is still more uniquelySamsung, even if it's kind of
disjointed.
I mean the current settingsicon.

(01:09:42):
You know, I don't know, I thinkthe current settings icon.
Look at the current settingsicon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I think it's better than this one.
Actually, I prefer this becauseit kind of keeps in theme with
the internet and the gallery andthe camera.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I think the settings card looks better on the current
version.
But whatever you guys can, letus know what you think,
Definitely chime in.
Tag us over on X on yourthoughts on the icons.
I have a video coming onYouTube this weekend too,
breaking down my thoughts,basically what I said here.
I'm coming on YouTube thisweekend to breaking down my
thoughts, basically what I saidhere, but you know the thing is
500 people listen to this everyweek and like 50,000 people will
watch it on YouTube.
So that's why sometimes there'soverlap between the podcast and

(01:10:23):
YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Yeah, and maybe like a lighter gray, just because all
the other colors seem lighter,except for settings.
I feel like settings is alwaysthe awkward step down.
Yeah, settings is alwaysplaying.
Yeah, it's always playing great, I'm not complaining about that
.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
I just think it's a little, I don't know.
Hopefully this is not theirfinal.
Obviously they've changed it alot since SDC, so obviously
they're listening to thefeedback that this is probably
not what needs to be the finalversion.
So hopefully they'll go aheadand allow us to see maybe one
more iteration.
It does look like justcontinuing with this.
I think this is probably ourlast story before I do a few

(01:11:02):
questions.
It does look like the betamight release a little bit
earlier than we thought.
A word came out from anotherleaker on Twitter that the
internal build that's stable-ish, like non-alpha version, is
mandated by Samsung management,by TMRO.
I guess that it needs to bedone by Halloween 1031.

(01:11:25):
So they need to have a stableenough build by 1031 internally.
He's not saying you have torelease the beta on that day,
but if there's a stable internalbuild, that means essentially
any time from November 1stonward we could potentially have
a beta release, because youhave to have a stable internal
build first that you think isstable enough that would be like
a release candidate for thebeta and then maybe do a little

(01:11:46):
bit more testing.
So based on that information,potentially maybe before
Thanksgiving we might see thebeta, which would be really nice
, because we thought it wasgoing to be late December, so
that's a whole month early.
I'll take it, I'll take it.
I mean, I'll be a littlestressed if they launch it
during Black Friday week becauseI'm going to be launching a

(01:12:07):
brand new business, the CaseCompany.
I don't really want to launchthat brand new business and also
then have to cover all the OneUI 7 stuff.
But that's just business.
I'll do it if I have to.
I will not sleep untilThanksgiving.
Then I'll just eat a meal andI'll go to sleep for 25, 30
hours and wake up on Saturdayand watch Alabama lose in the
Iron Bowl, probably.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Probably Because that's the way it's trending.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Just to tie it all full circle to our beginning
discussion.
That's the way it's trending.
So I'll sleep for 25 hoursafter I launch our new case
company cover One UI 7 stuff.
And I'll go to sleep for a longtime after eating my
Thanksgiving meal.
Yes, anyway, let's wrap it up alittle bit with a Q&A.
There's two questions.

(01:12:52):
I know that I saw that I wasgoing to address that people had
asked me during the week.
The first one was about thehidden apps that I talked about
last week.
Someone was asking do I knowwhich of the apps?
Remember I said last week thereare certain apps on your
Samsung phone that you can'tsearch for in the Galaxy store,
like to find the updates.
I was talking about thatbecause I think last week we
talked about one of those wasSamsung Cloud or another one

(01:13:14):
that you can't search for.
It was the Samsung Capture withthe Smart Select.
I know like five of them off thetop of my head, which I'll tell
you.
There's more, though.
Samsung Cloud is one of them.
Samsung Capture is another one.
Decopick, which is actually avery weird Samsung app that
probably none of you have heardof.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Never heard of it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
It actually controls some of the emojis and stuff
that are attached to thekeyboard and also stickers that
you can use when you're editingphotos in the gallery.
That's still integrated, butyou're not supposed to know it
exists.
It used to be a standalone app.
It was actually its own icon along time ago on the phones, so
that's the third one icon a longtime ago on the phones.
So that's the third one.
The customization services,which is the application that

(01:13:58):
lets Samsung customize yourexperience based on information
they collect.
So it basically means that yougive them consent to collect
your data and send it to theirthird-party partners.
They don't want you to knowabout that, so that also is not
able to be seen until it's readyto be updated.
They're just hoping you don'tlook at it when you see the
update come in.
I made a video about this onetime saying you know, be aware
of this Samsung app because it'sthere and people don't really

(01:14:21):
pay attention to the fact thatit's you know, you agree to it
when you sign up for a Galaxyaccount, a Samsung account.
But all companies have these.
It's not like anybody else doesin Apple, Google, et cetera.
They, All companies have these.
It's not like anybody else doesin Apple, Google et cetera.
They all collect some form ofdata.
Apple tries to say they don'tcollect any, but of course we
know that that's very much nottrue.
And then someone else did askme another question, which was

(01:14:44):
actually about something else Imentioned last week, and that
was about the Tab S10 Ultra.
Someone asked me if I hadnoticed any differences in
multitasking performance withthe new processor, because of
course, now it's using theMediaTek processor instead of a
Qualcomm processor.
It's very weird.

(01:15:05):
Also, just as an aside, tm Rowecame to the Snapdragon Summit.
He was there.
He's very rarely at anythingthat's not unpacked, because
he's not too good to go toanything else, especially other
people's events.
It was very awkward, though.
The guy who was the presidentof Qualcomm's development team.
I forgot the guy's name.
I should know this, because nowthey're not going to invite me

(01:15:26):
to Hawaii next year.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
They invite me every year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
They're paying attention and then they'll watch
this and they'll listen to thisand they'll be like well, we
heard that guy was going to gonext year.
We're not going to invite himnow, but he invited TM Rowe up
and he's like yeah, we loveSamsung, we love being partners
with you guys, we love Samsung,we love Galaxy.
And he's like TM Rowe, you loveQualcomm, you love Snapdragon,
right.
And TM Rowe was like he didn.

(01:15:49):
He didn't say anything and theyjust started talking.
This guy and him have been verythey've been friends for a long
time, so I think, maybe he'sjust nervous because, you know,
English is not his firstlanguage.
And even when he does the Galaxyevents.
Sometimes you can tell likehe's paying attention to the
teleprompter.
So probably he was payingattention to that a little bit.
I don't think he it was justawkward, because he's like you,

(01:16:12):
love Snapdragon, right and he'slike, he's just like waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
He's like, uh, it's like help me out here, and then
eventually he just left thestage and let him start talking
maybe he didn't realize that hewas going to say that ahead of
time, but it was kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
So the answer is no, I haven't really noticed any
differences.
I do a lot of multitasking onmy taviston ultra.
Usually what I have it open, Ihave it in there in my main
office here at sammy guru.
When I'm doing like videoediting and whatever else I'm
doing writing for the website, Ikeep a couple things open.
On the tabestan ultra I keep asplit screen open that has my
gmail, because I have threedifferent gmail accounts one

(01:16:43):
personal one which is also kindof used for youtube business.
Because I've never been able tomigrate fully from people to
email me there, I told them notto'm like please email this
other address.
It's very unfortunate.
I've got to fix this at somepoint.
I have one for Dope Tech Daily,which was my old website.
People email me there becausesome brands got used to emailing
me there, and now I have onefor Sammy Kuru.
So I have those Gmail boxesopen so I can see incoming

(01:17:06):
messages and then I can triagethem.
And then I have my Twitter feedopen on the other side so I can
respond to people, becausethat's my main other social
account.
Then I have pop-up windows, mymultitasking for Slack, which is
what we use to communicate, forSamiguru Asana, which is our
task manager, so I can assignarticles and stuff.
And then I also have my Chromebrowser open in a pop-up as well

(01:17:28):
so I can do some research and Ihaven't noticed any issues.
Now I don't game on my tabletthat much because I have a
console.
My PS5 is what I mainly game on.
But I did play some mobilegames and it seems just as
snappy, just as good as my TabS9 Ultra.
So I would say overall, if youwant to buy a Tab S10 Ultra, go
for it.
It's not a downgrade.
For sure Whether or not it'sthe massive upgrade from the Tab

(01:17:52):
S9 Ultra, the answer is no.
I answered that last week.
I wouldn't buy one.
If you have a Tab S9 Ultra,because the anti-reflective
coating is cool, it's great.
But to pay that all that, it'sa lot of money.
If you upgrade it's going tocost like $700 even after the
trade-in.
That's how much I paid aftertaxes.
Definitely don't do that.
I mean that's too much money,for you know you need a pretty

(01:18:13):
big upgrade.
I would need massiveperformance improvements massive
.
I haven't seen any massivebattery life improvements either
.
So the MediaTek processorreally isn't that much more
efficient, it's about the same.
But the battery life wasmassive on the Tab S9 Ultra as
well.
So I'm not telling you batterylife is a disappointment, it's
not.
It's just that if you're askingme, should you get rid of your
Tab S9 Ultra and get this, theanswer is no.

(01:18:34):
If you've got like a Tab S8Ultra or an older Samsung tablet
and you want that big, massive,14.6-inch tablet, you have to
want that then yeah, get it.
I mean, if you have a specificuse case, because, remember, if
you want to use it as like alaptop, you've got to spend an
extra $350 to get the keyboardcase.
Laptop, you've got to spend anextra $350 to get the keyboard

(01:18:55):
case.
So as long as you're planningto use it in a specific use case
where you need all that screenreal estate, it works great for
me because I already have mylaptop with my two screens doing
my main work.
I use it as a secondary displayfor social media, slack, all
that stuff, so I don't have toopen those on my main displays.
I just keep my Premiere Provideo editor, the blog SammyGuru

(01:19:16):
, open so I can work on articlesand that way I don't get
distracted by other stuff.
It's on the tablet screen sothen I'm able to like go down
there If I want to look atsomething, I can go back up here
.
I don't have that stuffdistracting my workflow.
So if you have that specificuse case, it might be worth
getting the big tablet.
But definitely don't upgradefrom a Tab S9 Ultra.
Wait for the Tab S11.
If there even is a Tab S11,they're probably going to jump

(01:19:36):
to the Tab S20 Ultra orsomething, because they never
had an.
S11 phone, so we can debate thatat another time.
Anything else, tori, that youhave you want to tell the people
.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
No, I don't think so At some point.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Tori, we've got to get you to come to a show with
me.
I At some point, Tori, we'vegot to get you to come to a show
with me.
I wish that you could make itat CES.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
I wish you started back to school later.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
I know we're actually planning to hold a little party
for the new Case brand.
Vuk might be coming to CES.
He might be flying from Europeto come and help hold a little
mixer for that, so that shouldbe fun.
I'll definitely have to saveyou a care package.
We're going to hopefully invitesome other YouTubers and like

(01:20:17):
give them a care package of thenew cases so maybe they can talk
about them a little bit withtheir followers and give us a
little bit of a word of mouthadvertising, because I have some
YouTubers who are my friends.
I wouldn't ask them to do itfor free if they weren't my
friends.
But the ones who are my friends, you know I've done them favors
.
They might do me a favor andjust say hey this guy's got some

(01:20:39):
new cases.
Maybe check it out.
So, if you guys like cases,we've got some big news coming
next month.
I mean, I think this is goingto be something that, honestly,
will change the case landscape.
It's going to be something newwhere you don't just get a case
when you buy a case.
That's a little teaser.
You won't just get a case.
You'll get a lot of other valuefrom the purchase, which is a
big deal.
Usually, when you buy a case,that's the end of the story, but

(01:21:01):
now you're going to get a lotof other things that will
hopefully make you feel like yougot your money's worth
Definitely better value thanbuying an $80 case from a
company that rhymes withStastify.
Yes, no one knows which one I'mtalking about.
I don't want to call anyone out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm justsaying $80 case from a company

(01:21:23):
that rhymes with Mastify, butanyway, I think that's pretty
much it.
We'll see you guys next week.
Hopefully I will have a shiny.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Z Fold.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Special Edition in my hand and also some Halloween
candy here for me and Tori toenjoy, because I'll be rummaging
through Jonathan's spoils tobring in for the office the next
day when we have the nextpodcast.
And until then, everybody who'scelebrating have a happy
Halloween and, this week, keepexpanding your galaxy.

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