Samsung Dominating Hardware in 2025 + One UI 8 Stable 2 Weeks Away!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everybody.
This is episode number 40 ofthe Sammy Guru Podcast.
My name is Jeff Springer.
With me, as always, my co-host,torrey Torrey, say hi, hey,
how's it going?
The big 4-0.
Yes, actually, that's how oldI'll be turning next year.
I just realized that by sayingthat Pre-early, I'm close to as
old as many episodes of thepodcast we've done, so I'm not

(00:22):
sure I'm really excited aboutthat 40th milestone, but this
40th milestone we are excitedabout.
Yes, we are Took a break, buthey, we finally got to 40.
People were like, hey, thoseguys were gone, they'll probably
never come back, the podcast isdead, it'll just be another
podcast that never has anotherepisode.
And those people were wrong.
Here we are, so we're back.
We got a lot of news this week.
We're finally going to be backto like doing some news.

(00:43):
I mean current news.
We kind of spent two weekscatching up on what me and Tori
have been doing for the last fewmonths and then also what
Samsung has been doing for thelast few months.
But before we get into what's apretty busy news week, Tori,
how's your week going?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
So far, so good.
I mean it's Tuesday, you knowwe're starting to make up.
Let's see we're doing a wholebunch of diagnostic testing, so
I get to chill for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
You got to test the diagnostics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, kick thetires on the students a little
bit.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, yeah, see if they got any skills.
I know yeah, you know yeah, sofar, so far, it's been pretty
chill, napoleon, dynamite,ladies love, of course, and
that's what they say.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
What's he been?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
doing oh, I've been building, I've been trying to do
like Legos more.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Jonathan's getting into that too lately, okay.
Yeah, we've been buying a lot.
You can assume which sets we'redoing.
Oh yeah, All the Jurassic sets.
Oh yeah, All the Jurassic sets.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
There's like 50 of them favorite toys when I was
like it's kind of a chill way torelax.
I enjoy doing them, with them.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, I really enjoy it because you know you just
take your mind off of it becauseyou're just focusing on that
next piece that you need to toget like and figuring out how it
fits in there.
Yeah, and then you're like ohdamn, four steps ago I put that
piece in the wrong spot.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, go back and do it.
Yeah, well, they have.
They have that tool now.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, yeah, that tool is very helpful, yeah, yeah,
yeah, they didn't have that whenI was little.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I remember I had to find things to pry it
apart or use my nails Back thenyou would have to get a soda can
tab and pry it up, pry it off.
Now you know the kids rage out.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
yeah, yeah it's good to deal with disappointment
because like, oh, now I gotta, Ijust wasted five, five things.
I'm like well, in your adultlife, they'll be off and you'll
do something.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
You'll waste a lot of your time oh yeah and get
nothing out of it.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Nothing, it's worth learning to deal with now yes
you know, early in my youtubecareer I would record a 30
minute video and then I'd go toedit it and I'll be like, oh
wait I forgot to turn on theaudio.
Who turned on the microphone?
Anybody there's no one here butme, never mind I gotta go back
and record that whole 30 minutevideo.
Yeah, because people can't hearwhat I'm saying no and nothing

(03:03):
makes you want to rage like that, because you're like wow, I got
the whole 30 minutes in onetake because I used to do
hardware reviews and it wasreally good, and now I have to
figure out how to do that againwith the same level of
enthusiasm, which is hardbecause you're pissed off that
you just wasted 30 minutes ofyour time and a pretty good take
.
You're not feeling as bubbly asyou were when you first started

(03:24):
, that first take.
But you have to pretend you arebecause the people don't know
that.
It's very frustrating.
One of the most frustratingthings about YouTube is
occasionally you're going to dothat, it doesn't matter how good
you are.
Even MKBHD occasionallyprobably starts a video and
forgot that he was not recordingaudio.
It happens to everybody.
It does, Otherwise how are youdoing Any other things going?

(03:46):
When does football season?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
start for the high school, uh, next week.
So I am super excited.
Um, I I think it's a, it's anokay school.
I I think it'll be a good game.
It's a home game, um, so, uh,we're we're gearing out for it a
spirit week.
One week is uh one day earlyfor spirit week isn't it uh,
well, uh, because uh the game isnext friday, so they try to do?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
oh, they do a spirit week every home game.
Uh, no, I thought you meanthomecoming.
My bad, yes, it's nothomecoming yet.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like the first big one.
Homecoming is later in the year, after they go for like a road
a long road trip, or whatever ohyeah I mean, that's the idea of
homecoming anyway.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Sometimes they don't really do that, but that's what
it's supposed to be.
Yeah, alabama football startssoon a couple weeks away.
We're both very excited aboutthat, very excited.
I'm going to try to puttogether.
Maybe this fall I can manage myschedule, but if not,
definitely next year.
Me and Tori are going to liveepisode of the Sammy group
podcast after or before anAlabama game.

(04:44):
Yeah, Hopefully, if they'rewinning, you know we can go it'd
be nice if they were undefeatedand we go to like an Alabama
LSU game or something like that.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well, I mean, this would be a day for second.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, yeah, last year , you know I didn't want to go,
cause I knew it was going to bebad.
The year after Saban leavingwas going to always be bad.
I mean, I actually think theguy deserves a chance.
People were down on him lastyear, but you can't judge anyone
by what happens the year afterSaban left.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, because there's going to be a lot of transition
, a lot you know, it's just likeright now we're moving.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
We're moving into a new house and there's a lot of
transition, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, trans, you know everybody's got to get used to
it Just like moving to a newcoach.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
You've been in a house or you've had a coach for
so many years.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, how long was he there for again?
17 years, 17 years, like you,if you're used to doing the same
thing.
17 years, yeah, I mean I was.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I had.
Just, I had not even graduatedundergrad yet when he was
started.
I was year of undergrad whenthey took over alabama, so it's
a long time ago, long time ago.
Uh, anyway, let's jump intosome samsung news.
We got an interesting week.
I mean it's gonna be samsungand some google.
So if you guys don't likegoogle I know some people the
google triggers you.
This is a trigger warning.
Don't get triggered.

(05:56):
I mean google.
Again, as I've said many times,the podcast they make android
and android runs on samsungphones, so it's worth talking
about.
In addition to that, they arealso one of the main competitors
in the US for flagshipsmartphones for Samsung, and so
tomorrow they're going to takethe wraps off of their 2025

(06:16):
lineup of smartphones the Pixel10, pixel 10 Pro and no one yet
knows what they're going to callthe foldable.
Last year it was the Pixel 9Pro Fold and you might remember
Toy.
I gave them a lot of crap aboutit because it was only the
second foldable they released,so how could it be the ninth one
?
They just named it that tobring it in line with the other

(06:37):
slab-style Pixel.
So now there's apparently someleaks that are saying it's going
to be the Pixel 10 Pro Fold orthe Pixel Pro 10 Fold but
where's the obvious name?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
yeah, it's the pixel 3 pro fold.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Why don't we go back to what it actually is?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
yeah, where's that name?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
you know what I mean.
What's going on there, um, andso there's quite a bit to talk
about here.
Um, there's there's not as manybig overhauls as what samsung
had with the z fold 7, z flip 7,so they're not offering like
any huge overhauls as whatSamsung had with the Z Fold 7, z
Flip 7.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So they're not offering like any huge overhauls
of their phones this year, butthere are some polarizing
changes and did you get the?
Fold last year for Google.
Yeah, I did.
And now that you've kind of hadnow the Fold 7, or I mean you
also have the Fold 6 as well,you know, like, based on that,
what will be some things you'rekind of hoping to see on this
new Fold?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, last year Google had a much bigger selling
point because last year theyhad the wider cover screen than
Samsung.
It was much wider than the Fold6 because it was closer to like
a slab style cover screen.
But the downside was and Ithink I might've shown it on one
of the podcasts to you, butit's been a long time- and it's
been a while since I've used thePixel 9 Pro Fold as well,

(07:50):
probably because I was so madthat it wasn't called the Pixel-
2 Pro Fold.
I just stopped using it at allon principle, but it's in there.
I'm going to trade it in forthe new one so I can do a
comparison.
But yeah, the inner screen,when you unfolded it, it was all
square aspect ratio, because ifyou make the front cover screen
too wide, the inside is goingto be more square than tall.

(08:14):
Right, it's not going to be arectangle that's taller than it
is wide.
It's going to be more square orit's going to be wider than it
is tall, which has somedownsides, because then when you
watch a video on there, right,you get that weird letterboxing
effect that you get when youwatch it on some tablets.
Yeah, like, you have that barson the top and the bottom, which
annoys some people and a lot ofthe apps, like your Instagram

(08:38):
and stuff.
They don't fit the full screenon the Pixel 9 Pro Fold and you
can't really stretch them in thesame way you can easily.
It doesn't look as good as youcan on like the Fold 7.
So last year Google had anadvantage because the front was
wider and the Fold 6 was way toonarrow.
That's my personal opinion.
This is not fact.
This is just what I think.

(08:59):
But this year they're losing alltheir advantages, because last
year the Pixel 9 Pro Fold wasreally not any thicker than the
Fold 6, because the Fold 6 wasstill a brick.
It was really thick.
Samsung didn't really doanything.
We've given them crap about it.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, we have, even though this is a Samsung podcast
.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
We've given them crap for releasing the same phone
twice.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well, you know, we told the truth here.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
They deserve that too .
I mean they did.
They released the same phonetwice, basically the Fold 5 and
the Fold 6, as I said last week,basically just change out some
colors, just a little tweak herethere.
Let's up the price somehow getsome crazy margins and see if
some people will buy it.
And millions of people did, andwe feel bad for those people.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
They should have waited one more year, I guess.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I mean, I didn't tell anyone to buy it last year, so
no one can say to me I said togo out and buy it, go back and
listen to the podcast, listen tomy videos.
I told you not to buy itbecause I knew the Fold Special
Edition was coming and I knewwhat would happen this year.
So I never said buy the Fold 6.
But you know, you do what youwant.
You're your own person.
Yeah, no, it's your moneyExactly.

(09:56):
But the thing is last year theyhad all these advantages.
This year they're all prettymuch gone.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Fold seven wider cover screen I know I I still
impress with it.
I mean it's just it isimpressive.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I mean I'm still using as my daily driver, which
is saying a lot, because thelast few years man.
Like every time I would reviewthe fold, I'd be itching to go
back to my s20 s line phone,like last year when I reviewed
the z fold six, I was like, letme get off of this thing.
It's's just way too narrow.
I can barely use it in my daily.
I can't type out emails, Ican't even respond to messages

(10:28):
from my wife, because it's just,I mean, people can say, if you
want, that I have fat fingers.
Okay, I have fat fingers.
I don't care.
But it was not usable.
I don't, I didn't like it.
But this year it's like this isa great phone because not only
can I use use it to do my dailystuff, but when I need to do
more multitasking, or when Iwant to game or when I want to

(10:49):
watch media, I just flip it openand I got a miniature tablet I
can read on it.
I can use it to basically dothree things at once because I
can have three windows andthey're all usable.
And it's not super thick.
It's actually thinner than myS25 Ultra with a case on.
If I slap a case on the S25Ultra we've already talked about
, it's thicker than the Z Fold 7.
So Google's losing all theiradvantages this phone is wide

(11:11):
enough, so no one's really goingto be looking at the full 10
pixel, whatever they call it.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Whatever?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
poor decisions they make.
They're going to look at it andbe like well, it's a little
wider still, because it will bea little wider, because they're
sticking with like they'rebasically taking it and making
it like the front of the pixel.
10 pro fold would be like an s25ultra style in terms of the
width or whatever and then justslap another screen yeah, yeah,
yeah but then people are gonnathink they're gonna be like well
, it's not that much wider thanthe fold 7 and it has the

(11:42):
drawback that when I open itit's got this square aspect
ratio, whereas when I open theFold 7, it's got a nice kind of
vertical aspect ratio.
That's more balanced.
So I can enjoy media gaming andI still get like that ebook
reading, pdf readingmultitasking that I want Because
obviously, like we've talkedbefore, if you spend 2K, which

(12:05):
the Pixel 10 Pro Fold is goingto cost 2K as well, they're not
undercutting.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
They're not trying to undercut Samsung on the price.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
They're trying to charge the same price, so don't
expect it to be cheaper.
You want to be able to getproductivity for your work and
your play.
You want your gaming, yourNetflix, your YouTube, but also
you want to be able to probablydo some multitasking yeah on it
because it's a lot of money.
A lot of people will buy it.
Presumably they're going tomaybe use this as a work and a

(12:32):
and a personal phone.
That's one way you couldjustify the cost of a foldable
and maybe I'm going to use as mytablet and my phone, which we
talked about last week.
So they lose the advantage ofthe screen.
If you're looking at the twoside by side, Google didn't slim
down the Pixel Fold at all thisyear.
It's the same.
In fact, by some leaks fromwhat we've seen, it's actually a

(12:54):
few grams heavier than lastyear.
Oh no, so now this phone'sgoing to be like 40.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Opposite direction.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's going to be like 40 grams heavier and several
millimeters thicker than thefold 7, so you're going to be
looking at those two, like ifyou're in verizon, and you'll be
like which fold should I getwell, this one feels like a
cinder block in my hand and thisone is lighter than even the
slab phones and people are justgonna be like I give me the fold
7.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah because, like, I'm not gonna carry this, it's
the same price, right?
If?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
there's not, like, even if there's, if there was
some, there'd have to be someamazing advantage of the pixel
10 pro fold for you to choose itover the fold 7, because just
the design of it is going to awepeople.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, right, like, even if,even if all things else being
equal, let's say they alleverything.
We'll talk about the otherthings too, the other specs, but
everything else was equal.
The z Z Fold 7 just like jumpsoff the page when you see it

(13:45):
because of how it looks.
It's just a sexy design, verysexy, and that does matter.
When it comes to, like, thecarrier stores, best Buy, and
you know, despite what peoplethink again, we talk about all
the time on this podcast, but itbears repeating the enthusiast
versus the average user is avastly different experience.
That's why Tori is on this show, that's why I chose him as the
co-host.
A lot of people who are everyday reading tech blogs and in

(14:08):
this hobby of smartphones, wedon't think about the fact that
most people still buy theirphones from the carrier store,
from Best Buy, yeah, likethey're not buying their phone
from Samsungcom unlocked, orfrom Googlecom unlocked.
No, they're going to the carrier.
Those are like the super fansthat read the blogs and listen
to this show and all that stuff.
But your best friend, thinkabout your best friend who when

(14:29):
they buy their phone, they go toat&t verizon team or they go to
best buy and they're like letme look at that best buy, let me
feel it.
They're gonna see these phonesand be like oh man, the fold
seven is like a clear winner,because it's just the aesthetics
and the look, but there'sthat's not even where all the
advantages actually are.
Because there's another problemin my mind with the Pixel lineup

(14:52):
this year.
Google is getting rid of thephysical SIM slot.
Just like the iPhone, they'regoing eSIM only.
This is leaked out.
There'll be dual eSIM ports onthe pixel series this year dual
e-sim profiles, no physical simslot.
So basically, if you like totravel, google's giving you the

(15:12):
double bird.
They're rolling down the windowand giving you the double bird
like you're driving out in thephoenix traffic.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
You cut somebody off a lot of people I mean I mean,
uh, you know my, uh, mygirlfriend's, um, uncle.
I mean like people, likeespecially a lot of like retired
people who you know, like theylike to travel.
Now, you know in their age,like like the, the things that
they're looking for and firstthing he always asks, like
before he gets a phone, is hey,like, is it an eSIM or a

(15:40):
physical SIM?
Because I want to be able totravel and still have access to
you know, call or do whatever Iwant to do on my phone.
So, like this move to this eSIM, I just, I don't know, I feel
like you're kind of blocking outpeople, but I know it's the

(16:01):
push, now it's coming.
Do you feel like this eSM onlyis going to eventually come to
Samsung?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I do.
I was not wanting to say that.
Oh, never mind I certainlythink, unfortunately hey we have
to give Samsung some credithere.
Right, they've held off longerthan anyone else, but at the end
of the day, this is an industrywhere there has to be
uniformity, and the carriers aregoing to want some uniformity

(16:32):
at some point and the carriers,in the US at least, still have
some say, even with Samsung andApple.
And since Apple and Google havedone this, now that's going to
put pressure on Samsung andthey're going to be like well,
why do we have to have aseparate activation flow only
for samsung phones?
Everybody else is now esim only, so why do we have to come?
Why do we have to have thisextra help section about

(16:52):
physical sims?
But why do you really need helpphysical sims?
Everybody knows how to use one.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's stupid.
Put them in, that is a stupidargument.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
But some ceo or some tool and all it pops out, yeah,
some executive at Verizon willbe like, yeah, people can't, we
have to still, you know, dosupport for physical Sims.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
What.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
The physical sense has been around for 20 years.
We have to support yeah,everybody knows how to use it.
Who's an adult I mean, it'sstupid, I don't, but someone
would probably say that and also, there's also the argument, and
so we can flip to the other bigselling point, and there's only
one in my mind.
We'll talk about some of thebattery and the processor and
stuff too.
There's only one big sellingpoint of the pixel line, a pixel

(17:33):
fold this year, and that isthat apparently it's leaked.
We had them.
Google hasn't confirmed it yetbecause it's their events
tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
That it's going to be the first ever IP68 certified
dust and waterproof foldablewhich even.
Samsung hasn't done that hasn'thappened on the Fold 7.
And one of the reasons they'vebeen able to do that at least
according to the leaks isbecause they got rid of the
physical SIM slot.
I somehow don't believe that ifSamsung wanted to, they could
probably still get the 68 ratingwith keeping the SIM slot, but

(18:04):
certainly it is an extra hole inthe phone, so it probably does
make it a little easier to getthat rating.
But the question is is thisreally going to be?
I mean, I don't know.
It really depends on how hardthey go with the marketing.
People are still worried aboutdurability on foldables.
Yeah for sure, we talked aboutthat.
But if they're like well, it's alittle more durable, but it

(18:27):
also weighs twice as much, Notreally twice as much but 40 is
also a brick and the screen isnot really as good because when
you unfold it you're not gettingas usable of an aspect ratio
and in my opinion, this is againopinion, not a fact.
You're not getting one UI, soyou're not getting all those

(18:48):
extra multitasking features.
Google's pixel experiencesoftware for foldables of course
they haven't unveiled it yet,so maybe they have some tricks,
but it's still limited inmultitasking compared to what
Samsung offers in One UI.
So I don't know, tori, what doyou think?
Is IP68 enough of a sellingpoint for people to purchase a

(19:09):
thick Pixel 10 Pro Fold over thevery slim and light z-fold
seven?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I and from the average consumer.
I mean, it's kind ofinteresting enough.
We're having this conversationbecause over the weekend I was
at a friend's birthday party andI was talking to other, um,
like other people, um in their20s and some, some of them, have
samsung phones, some of themhave uh iphones, and we're kind
of talking about like, well,like you know what would we ever

(19:38):
switch over?
Uh, or is someone with iphonewould ever switch over to
samsung and vice versa, um andlike, when I kind of think about
it, I'm like I know very fewpeople who have Google phones,
um, handful, uh, most peoplehave Samsung but, you know,
getting into the foldables, thatis even very niche among uh

(20:03):
average consumers, becausethere's not that many average
consumers who are going for thefold.
But if they were going, eitherthey're going all in and that's
going to be their phone forabout three years or they're
going to go for the flip.
And so you know I, if I'm goinginto a carrier where most

(20:25):
people are going to be going uh,and I look at the fold and I
look at you know, because it'sall about appearance, like I'm
going to want the sleek phone,I'm not going to be compelled to
go to Google just for the sakeout of durability, especially if

(20:45):
it's also going to weigh more.
But again, you know, peoplewant battery life.
People want how sleek it is Waymore.
But again, you know, peoplewant battery life.
People want how sleek, it isThin.
I mean, thin is just thin.
We talked about it before.
Thin is thin.
Yeah, no, thin is thin.
And when I'm at Target orWalmart and I'm looking at you
know, every now and then I passby and I'm looking at the Google

(21:07):
, Except in some scenarios.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
the ladies know what I'm talking about oh yeah.
Know what I mean.
Tori, yes, no.
I know what you mean, asFlossie Carter would say ladies,
you know the procedures.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yes, yes, I do, but you know, because whenever I go
to Target they have a plethoraof Google stuff out those phones
just look bulky Plethora.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's a great word, you know, I like that one.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Oh yes, I sneak that one in on occasion.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Tori's like, let me pull that out of my bag of chips
.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, I got a few bags of chips.
He's like you can't let.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Jeff, have all the fun here.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, no, I can't.
He's like.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I got a few words in the old thesaurus the dictionary
.
But I chip in it.
Um, that's another concern fora lot of buyers because, if you
pay attention, I'm talking aboutenthusiasts now but if you pay
attention, the tensor chip hashad efficiency issues, like with
cooling, and it's ran hot andalso it's not as powerful as a

(21:59):
snapdragon.
It doesn't have a snapdragonchip in it.
I don't know if you knew this.
Yeah, google's do not.
They have their own in-housechips, um that are made by tsmc.
Um, and this is going to be, Ibelieve so, only so, only
Samsung has the Snapdragon.
No, no, a lot of other Androidphones do too, but Google
decided to make their ownin-house chip, they say, because
they want it optimized for AIpurposes.

(22:20):
Yeah, it's the Tensor G5 thistime and it does AI tasks really
well, but it doesn't do thingslike gaming and multitasking as
well.
So that leaves some enthusiastsa little bad taste in their
mouth.
It's like, well, yeah, it doesAI stuff well on device, but if
I don't care about that, if I'ma gamer, I don't want to buy,
then maybe, so we'll see.
Supposedly it's got a littlebetter efficiency, but there's

(22:41):
no guarantee there.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
But I don't want to if it's running hot, I mean,
especially if I live in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, you don't want to run it hot because that means
your battery life's also goingout.
The going down the pooper, goingdown the poop shoot, um, the
other big selling point, um,which I would say actually is
appealing to me, so that theip68 on the foldable, I don't
care too much about that.
To be honest with you, justfrom my personal experience, I'm
someone who's used almost everyfoldable.

(23:07):
I've used every foldablesamsung has.
I've used every foldable googlehas and I've used every
foldable Google has.
And I've used a bunch ofChinese foldables, probably
about a handful, maybe 10 ofthem.
So you know, I'm not the numberone most experienced foldable
user Probably some of my guylike Flossy Carter would be,
because he's used every singleone that's ever existed.
But I used a lot of them, waymore than your average bear.
I mean I've used probably 30different, probably 25 or 30
different foldables over thelast, you know, eight, nine

(23:29):
years.
I would say I don't care,because the Z Fold 7 is already
plenty durable and I reallydon't worry too much about dust
or even water droplets, like I'mnot going and dunking my phone
in the ocean and technically,even if you drop it in water for
a second, it should still befine.
I've seen some people do thisand it's not really a problem.
Now don't take it to the beachand throw it in the sand.
Don't build a sandcastle withthe Uzi Fold 7.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
It's still a luxury phone.
I mean, I'm not doing that withmy slab phone.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Because, as I said, sand can scratch the display on
your slab phone.
So I'm not building asandcastle with my S25 Ultra
either.
So it's not like I change mylife habits because I have a
Fold, but they're supposedlygoing to have Qi2 magnets built
into the phone which, as youremember from the S25 launch,
Samsung decided not to do.

(24:15):
On the S25 Ultra they're likehere you can have Chi-2, but
only if you buy this specialcase, not if you just want to
slap something on the backwithout a case and that really
made people mad because they'relike well, that's not really
Chi-2.
If I can't just go buy, buy aChi 2 charger and slap it on the
back of the phone I got to buya case to do it?
Yeah, because like this yeah,that one you can.

(24:36):
Yeah, there's UAG, uag.
I gave you.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Because I got one of those charging stands now.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's very nice, it's great.
Boom, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
And it's charging.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
But people gave you that one, so it's good.
But people don't want to buy a$1,600 accessory to enable a
feature.
Yeah, I understand that,because you just bought $1,300
phone, so that is appealing.
You know that's a win forgoogle to be said.
You know to say hey, no oneelse.
We're the first on android tohave real chi 2 and they'll.
They'll be able to say thatlegitimately because samsung
decided to do fake, fake chi 2.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Basically yeah, on there, like it's there, but it's
like it's there but it's not.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's like you know if you get a chi-tu compatible
case, we'll get a little chi-tucharging on that, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Buy one from us sixty dollars, right here, yeah,
right here, right now upsell youknow, yeah, add to cart just
yeah, and they ask you like twotimes before you even check out.
Are you sure?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
because if you don't buy it, you won't be able to get
this great feature yeah butwell, that's not a feature of
the phone then, because that's afeature of the case, yes, so
google will be able to say thatI mean, that's appealing.
But I mean, and talking aboutthe other phones, we mainly talk
about the fold, the pixel 10,pixel 10 pro.
There really is nothing newabout them at all, I think the
fold, the pro, fold xl, no, theFold the Pro XL, pixel 10, pro

(25:52):
XL.
Really weird naming scheme,even though it does convey the
size and stuff it's just got.
It's a mouthful to say you knowthe Pixel naming.
It's supposed to be heavier aswell.
So the Fold's got heavier.
Oh, no, they look good, likethe colors.
I'll show you some of thecolors.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Let me see if I can find them.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Oh, they're over here .
The colors look nice.
I actually like this lime color.
They got like this green.
See this color right here.
Oh yeah, this is a nice colorand this blue-gray is called
Moonstone.
They're both nice.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
It's like a pistachio green.
That's probably what I'm goingto get if it doesn't sell out
tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I personal one the colors look nice but really
there's no new hardware features.
Like they've tweaked the cameraa little bit doesn't look like
a massive overhaul.
You got the new processor.
It's gonna have the g2.
Of course, ip68 that's only newto the fold because this
already had.
All the slab phones havealready been at least ip68
certified for years now.
Like that's not a new slabphone feature, it's gonna have a

(26:47):
few new software features.
Uh, the supposed I think it'scalled pixel sent assistant,
which is going to be like aspecific.
It's like a specific big kindof gemini specific to the pixel
that you won't be able to get onany other android phone, so it
might not come to samsung yeahwhich is how they kind of try to
sell their phones, is likeexclusive software stuff.

(27:08):
But I don't know, I still thinkkind of a hard sell if.
Even if I was like a pixel fan,like obviously I'm a samsung
guy, yeah, but even if I had apixel 9 pro and it was my main
phone and I was like looking atthis and I'm like man, I like
google, do I really want tospend because they don't give
you the same trade-in valuesamsung does?
yeah like you know, samsung,next year if you buy an s26

(27:29):
ultra, they're going to be likehere's $900 for your S25 Ultra,
$800 at least.
And that makes it a lot easierbecause then you only spend $499
to upgrade, but Google, youknow they'll be like.
The Pixel 10 Pro XL is $1,100.
Here here's $400 for your 9 ProXL and you're like what the
heck?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
So it's still $700 to upgrade.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
That makes it a little harder.
The difference between 400 or500 upgrade and 700 or 800
upgrade is a pretty massive dealno very because for the
two-year-old phone sometimesthey only give you 300 and for,
like I have, a pixel 8 pro excel.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I'm like I don't know yeah, I don't know if I'm
feeling it, so to speak, likethat's a lot of money for not
being like people wait for thecarriers, because then they're
like, well, they'll just put iton those, uh installment plans
yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
It's only gonna be 22 dollars a month for 60 months,
yeah, and then they're like whatdid you say?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
uh, nothing.
Uh, would you like that bagged,or are you just going to carry
it out?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's only $17 a month for 96 months.
I thought it would be in aboutfive years $17 a month, but for
96 months People will be likewait, how many years is that?
I didn't pass high school math?
Only three years.
That's a good deal.
Yeah, that's a really good deal.
$17 a month for three years,I'm good deal.
Yeah, it's a really good deal.

(28:51):
17 a month for three years I'mgonna buy this right now.
Yeah, right now they're like goahead and put it in the bag.
Yeah, I'll take two.
Yeah, bag it and tag it, andtag it, okay, so we'll see what
happens.
Tomorrow, google, they're gonnarelease the pixel watch 4 as
well.
Um, you know, I want to talkabout it a little bit.
Obviously, everything we'resaying right now is based on
leaks.
I figure figured we'd justpreview it because it is a big
event tomorrow.

(29:11):
I'll be live-tweeting it andwe'll have some coverage of it,
of course, because they're ourmain competitor once we find out
the confirmed specs.
Our good friend, michal Rahmanfrom Android Authority, who's
Android expert extraordinaireand we really enjoy his work at
Sammy Guru, he's going to bedoing a live stream on YouTube
for the event on the AndroidAuthority YouTube.

(29:32):
I'll put it in the show notesbecause this will probably go up
before the event goes live.
You guys can check it out.
I also have a link to his thing.
We wrote an article about itletting people know he'll be
doing it.
I highly endorse checking outhis live stream because he's
like the foremost expert oneverything Google, so like you
could consider him the Androidguru.
So anything that's generalAndroid, definitely go check out

(29:55):
Michal.
He knows everything about itAndroid.
So that's what I have to sayabout the Pixel event for now.
We'll have some more commentarynext week, once we get the real
word from Google and we'll seewhat happens.
I mean, obviously, as you guysknow we already talked about
last year, google has decided tostop sending phones to tech
influencers, so you know they'renot sending me a review in it.
I'll have to buy my own unitsto to make content.

(30:16):
They're all about the beautyand uh lifestyle influencing.
Unfortunately, I did not startmy makeup or running vlog this
year it was on my list yeah, itwas right there.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
It was on the start my makeup and gym vlogs but I
just did not get to it.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
I had a lot of stuff going on.
Maybe next year We'll see younever know, what else?
One UI 8 news.
We always get to talk about theOne UI news.
People come here for the Beta 5drop today so you got the Beta
5.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Man, I've been getting updates.
I got a Watch update, I got aBuds update.
It's been update city.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Update city.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's been a city of updates.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, it has been.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I love that.
Oh, you got a watch update.
Yeah, I did hear they wererolling out the watch update.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, and actually it changed.
One thing I noticed prettyquick is like anytime I am
listening to music or something,usually it would just be like,
uh, kind of like a purple, youknow like music button that
would just appear at the bottomfor me to tap on, but now the
actual app icon appears when, um, oh, yeah, yeah, they added

(31:22):
that with one new, the newversion, the new update for one
ui.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, is that when you?
That's not when you i8 watch,is it?
Or is it when you i8 watch?
I don't know how did you get?
It.
I don't remember if it came tothe Ultra or not.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
You can go?
Oh yeah, I should probably gothere.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
You could go in there and check it in the Galaxy
Wearable app and see I do knowthat it was supposed to be
rolling out to the old watchUltra, I believe as well, I
think update.
So that probably is what yougot.
Actually, now that I thinkabout it.
Oh yeah, so you did get.
You got the big update.
That's the one that rolled outon the watch eat classic and all
those devices that I waschecking out when I went to the

(31:57):
unpacked in new york so you gotthe big update.
So that's part of when you atewatch.
I thought I thought that thatwas part of when you ate watch.
I was like, did they do that ina smaller update?
But no, that one's rolling outto last year's ultra.
I think it's the only deviceoutside of the new watches
that's gotten it yet.
So far okay it's kind of luckyfor you, um, but the s25 ultra
got the one ui8 beta 5 whichfinally enables the uh lock

(32:21):
screen adaptive clock.
You can see right here you'renot on the beta, I don't think
for it.
But but yeah, you can see thatbeautiful adaptive lock screen
clock.
It adapts to your wallpaper soit adapts to the ears on the, on
the bunny there that I have youknow it's cool.
It's still buggy.
You know it's still very buggyfeature.
It's one of my favorites, butsamsung just cannot seem to
perfect it 100 percent.

(32:42):
Um, people are still asking mewhen one ui8 is going to come to
their device, and this issupposedly the last beta for the
S25.
So my best.
I want it, yeah, so the bestguess to tell you and others is
the first week of September.
We should hopefully see it onthe S25 series and then Samsung,
hopefully with the one UI sevenupdate.

(33:04):
They posted a schedule on theirblog when they started rolling
it out.
They had like a list of wheneach device would get it.
Hopefully they'll do that likeby september 1st and hopefully
it's not going to extend forlike months because like yeah,
that was the one ui7 rollout itwas like a two month rollout,
which I know was a majoroverhaul, but they posted like

(33:26):
started in april for the s24series and then it's like man,
like the a series phones, theydidn't get it until June or
something.
It took forever.
One UI8 is much smaller, sohopefully it doesn't like linger
for everywhere for you know,for so long, because that's just
kind of ridiculous.
But there's not a lot in hereother than they added the

(33:46):
adaptive lock screen clock.
They added suggested wallpapers.
So now when you go into your,if you try to set a wallpaper on
your phone, you're going to getsuggested images.
Do you see them down here?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, yeah down there Of what you could use.
Obviously, I take a lot ofpictures of my kids so there's a
lot of pictures of my kidsthere.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
And then there's still two features missing,
which one of them we talkedabout that you said you liked,
and I also like the NowBrief,where it reads your NowBrief out
loud to you yeah, yeah, that'snot on this beta, it's on the Z
Fold 7, but it's not on the betaon the S25 yet.
And then also the call captions, which is on the Z Fold 7, z
Flip 7, but not on the S25 beta.
That's where you can getcaptions of what the other

(34:27):
person's saying.
When you're on a phone call,it'll actually show you the text
on the screen.
It's like if you're in a placewhere it's too loud and you
can't hear, you're going to belike what did you say?
You can see it on the screenand you can still respond to
them, which is a nice feature.
That's not present either.
So it's kind of weird, though,why they didn't put those
features in here.

(34:47):
If this is the last beta,supposedly this is supposed to
be the last beta.
That's what everyone has said,and it seems very stable.
So I would think so.
Maybe those features just goingto come on the stable release,
or maybe they're just exclusiveto the fold 7 for a while.
That's going to make me reallymad no, for sure um I the now
brief read aloud is a prettynice little feature.
I don't really see why that hasto be exclusive to anything.

(35:10):
I mean it doesn't require anyskill.
There's no super powered ai andalso these phones have the same
processor basically anyway.
So the whole excuse of itdoesn't have a powerful enough
processor is not going to bevalid for this one.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
But no, that's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
So once one ui8 comes out and stable, of course we'll
do like a full show on one ui8when tory gets it and we can get
his thoughts.
There's definitely not as manybig changes With One UI 7, we
spent like two whole shows goingthrough the changelog and
discussing there's.
You know there's six bigfeatures.
In fact, our good buddy Sumit,our editor-in-chief at Sammy
Guru, he wrote an article calledFrom Samsung Decks to

(35:47):
QuickShare One UI 8's six bigupgrades.
So let's actually read thosereally quick.
The new Samsung Decks which Iknow, tori, you don't really use
Decks, but for those of you whouse Decks and I use it
occasionally the Decks desktopmode has been overhauled for
power users and instead ofgetting completely custom

(36:08):
implementation, it's now basedon Android 16's native desktop
mode which Google created, whichmeans you get better window
scaling.
You get a lot of nice changes,app compatibility.
The fact that it's all built byGoogle and the underlying
Android code base makes it a loteasier to use it.
And this is a great featurebecause if you don't need a

(36:28):
desktop, a separate laptop, youcan use dex as your laptop.
You just connect your phone toa monitor and it basically turns
into what it's kind of likewindows, where you have a word
you have, where you can do wordprocessing and everything.
Dex basically turns your phoneinto a pc and if you're not a
power user like if you don'thave a job where you need to do
a bunch of spreadsheets andstuff it's fine.
It's definitely not like if youhave a job where you need to do

(36:49):
a bunch of spreadsheets andstuff, it's fine.
It's definitely not like if youhave a job where you need to do
a lot of word processing orspreadsheets.
I would still recommend gettinga Windows laptop because it's
better for doing heavy lifting,but if you only need to edit the
occasional document you mainlydo a lot of web browsing, stuff
like that and you just want abigger screen.
Dext is great for that.
Knox Matrix and thequantum-resistant encryption

(37:10):
Uh-oh, back to our mathematics.
Yeah, samsung putting quantumresistant encryption in one UI
eight.
I forgot about this, but it'svery important because we're
close to getting quantumcomputers and when we do, all
the encryption we have now isbasically useless.
Yeah, so Samsung has beenworking on encryption that is
resistant even to quantumcomputer breakage.
So that is now being applied inone UI eight.
So once the first quantumcomputer breakage, so that is

(37:31):
now being applied in One UI 8.
So once the first quantumcomputer comes out, you don't
have to worry about someonegetting in there and hacking all
your personal data on yoursmartphone, which is kind of an
important thing.
The enhanced secure folderthat's a big one as well.
They changed secure folder sothat it now uses Android's
private space feature.

(37:52):
Previously there was a bug insecure folder which talked about
before, that if you didsomething wrong it could leak
all your private photos andstuff like if you turned on, the
uh stories feature in gallery,someone could just be using your
phone and be like, look, checkout this story.
And it wouldn't be your regularprivate public gallery.
It would be photos you savedinside your secure folder which
presumably, if they're in yoursecure folder, maybe you don't

(38:13):
want people to see them.
Yeah, and be like what's this?
Check that out.
You know you see somescandalous stuff there.
Yeah, and the old secure folderstories be like whoa, that was
not the story I was trying tosee today, not the story, you
know so that they fix that.
That's now fixed.
You can also now access.
What I really like is forsecure folder.
You can access it usingdifferent fingerprints than your

(38:34):
regular fingerprint login, soyou can set up a fingerprint
that only works in secure folder.
Previously, if you had, like,your thumb registered to get
into your phone, that would alsowork to get into secure folder,
but now you can register yourthumb to get into the phone and
your pinky to get into securefolder.
You can register your thumb toget into the phone and your
pinky to get into secure folder.
That way you know like if yougot one of those you know

(38:55):
significant others trying to useyour thumb while you're asleep
they'll be like oh, why doesn'tit work to get?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
into this folder.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
They of course could try all your fingers and then in
the end that would be bad foryou.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
But if they're not very smart, or you should
probably use like a finger onyour other hand.
Yeah, yeah, that way, if you'relaying this, way.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Presumably they won't twist your arm off to try to do
it, but they might if they'rereally that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
If they're really that concerned about what you're
doing, get up in there theymight try to get in there, you
know and hopefully, by then youwake up.
Oh, by then you wake up, yousnatch the phone back yeah,
you're like, give me this phone.
You're like look.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Secure folder separate fingerprints in 108.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Save my life and that's how we roll a paid, paid
spokespersons uh, the now barand live updates.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
So live updates and now bar have had some changes.
Um, those are now integratedwith android 16's live updates,
which means we're going to getmore apps that use the now bar.
We talked about this before.
We're gonna have like uber lifton the now bar.
We talked about this beforewe're going to have like Uber
lift on the now bar.
Yeah, One day maybe.
My dream is maybe we'll haveFanDuel and DraftKings on there.
I can follow my parlays.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, you know I can drink.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Get in touch with me If you guys want me to do some
advocacy for you?
Fanduel just email me.
Promotions at Sammy grewcomyeah, particularly since I know
FanDuel and DraftKings have alot of money.
Yes, they do $100,000.
I will lobby to Samsung on yourbehalf.
I have their PR contacts.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I will lobby.
You'll definitely really put inthe work.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'll put in the work daily to get in their PR
people's ear about gettingFanDuel and DraftKings on the
Now Bar.
It'll make you guys a lot ofmoney.
Think about it.
It's on the nail bar People aremore likely to place more bets.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
One small step for them, one giant leap for them as
well.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
People are more likely to place more bets, and
then you can just take a smallpercentage of either of those
bets and pay me my fee.
It'll be worth it.
Just get in touch.
Anyway, the redesignedQuickshare.
So Quickshare is brand new.
Redesign it has app-like fullscreen interface that separates
the send and receive so you cannow see which files you've sent
and received from QuickShare.

(40:54):
Previously, anything you got inQuickShare was just lumped all
together in one big giantcluster F of the list and you
had no idea what was what.
But now you have a tab thatshows which files you've sent
and which ones other people havesent you in QuickShare.
And then seamless multitaskingwith an improved split-screen
view.
It basically brings the featuredeveloped by OnePlus and

(41:14):
integrated into Android 16.
The new split screen lets youuse two apps simultaneously with
a 90-10 split.
So you can now havemultitasking where you have 90%
of one app shown and 10% of theother.
In case you need to do like alittle peek.
So like, say, I have 50-50split but I need to make this
app bigger for one second, I cando that.

(41:36):
That's very specifically usefulon like a foldable, where you
can use that large screen realestate to do something and then
go back to split screen mode.
So, tori, of those six features, which one do you think is the
most interesting?
This is Sumit's list of the topsix and I would agree with him.
But I would say, for theaverage user, when they see the
update, they're going to be likethis is cool, pretty cool too
the adaptive lock screen.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I think that's probably going to be like the
big thing, because obviouslythis is not a big uh overhaul
people are going to like theadaptive lock screen.
I think most people wantsomething done with the um or
sorry, the before you or thelock screen.
So I think most people areprobably going to gravitate to
that, just because people arelike constantly changing their

(42:16):
lock screens and like kind ofmoving them around to kind of
adjust for the other stuff thatare like the clock and the time
and the calendar.
Just a more user-facing featuretoo, yeah yeah, I think people
are going to like that.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Now the problem is this feature is still very
difficult to use, so samsungneeds to explain it to people.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I've made like three videos on this because it really
has a lot of like, not justlike automatic or no.
The problem is that one.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
You have to have a photo of someone or an animal.
First, because it doesn't workwith anything else, just people
or animals.
Two, you have to set thewallpaper using the gallery app
you or the lock screen,samsung's gallery.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
You can't use a third-party app, so if you use,
like thematic or one for wall,or a lot, of, a lot of people
set their wall, especiallyespecially the ladies, the
ladies, yeah, exactly just go inthere they find like a cutesy
wallpaper, like, look look atthis wallpaper of a unicorn yeah
, and they're like oh, I sawsomething about a new feature in
samsung.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I can get a cute clock and they go and try it.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
They're like oh, this doesn't work yep, samsung must
be garbage company.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
I'm switching to apple, but people don't believe
me.
That this is what people willthink.
But it is how people will think.
People will say, hey, whydoesn't this feature work?
They're going to be like thismust be a problem with samsung,
because I did everythingcorrectly.
Um, you know, this must be aSamsung issue, but it's because
they're doing the computationfor this clock inside the

(43:36):
gallery app, so it doesn't workif you set it from another app.
But they need to fix how thisis done because this is going to
make people angry.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Guaranteed no, for sure yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Because if you tell people about this in the tips
when they download One UI 8 andthen they're trying to figure
out how to get it to work, ittook, and then they're trying to
figure out how to get it towork.
And it took me a while to figureout why it wasn't working,
cause I use one for wall andthematica and I set my
wallpapers through there.
When I first got the beta I hadto figure out why it wouldn't
work and then I realized, oh,they're doing the computation to
figure out where the adapt youknow the adaptive element should
go in the gallery app.

(44:03):
So if you don't use it, thestretches should go.
You know, you knowtransformations, dilation,
stretches, whatever to thenumbers, and so it doesn't
figure out like where theyshould stretch the four and the
five on this one that I havewith the bunny, yeah, if you set
it with a third party app,because it doesn't do that math.
But no one's going to figurethis out.
They're not like a hardcore fanIf they don't follow us or

(44:25):
someone who knows about this,they're just going to be like
this feature samsung said work.
It totally doesn't work at all.
It's broken because most peopledon't download the wallpaper
and then set it.
They just set it directly fromthe app yeah, I know tons of
people use wallpaper apps.
Unless they download it from theinternet which some people do
that then they'll set it fromthe gallery.
But if they have an app theyuse, it's like their go-to
wallpaper app.
They're just setting.

(44:46):
There's always an option to setyour wallpaper from the app and
they'll just do it from there.
So that's my feedback.
Samsung, you should fix thatbecause you're gonna have a lot
of late angry.
You know average users whodon't really read anything.
Being like this should be aneasy feature to implement,
because if you think, wouldapple ever push a feature like
this and then it wouldn't worklike easily.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
No, no, they'd be like we're not going to make it
complicated because our usersare complete idiots.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
That's how they think .
We need to make this as simpleas possible, and even if your
users aren't idiots, you shouldthink that way, because for the
people who don't have thetechnical knowledge, that
doesn't mean they're idiots.
They just don't want to spendtheir time reading pages of how
to set a clock.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
They're just like, really Like, we just want things
right out of the box.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, just but that part of Apple is good, like it
just works.
The only problem is their stuffdoesn't just work anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Like they have more bugs than Samsung half the time
their betas are just as bad, soI don't know.
The whole thing doesn't.
It's the presentation, the wayit's rolled out.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, steve Jobs' idea of it just
works was good, but Steve Jobsdoesn't work there anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
So it just stopped't work anymore.
Anyway, so two big topics thereno-transcript.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Also, we have when you I ate.
Beta five should be coming outand stable now, beginning of
September.
Of course I say that andthey'll make me look like an
idiot Cause they'll be like it'sbeen pushed October.
Guys, I'm sorry and I'll belike well, you know, I don't
make, I don't make the choice torelease it.
Sorry, guys, you got tocomplain to Samsung about it,
but that's what they said.

(46:18):
They said September.
They put it in their blog.
So I'm just going off what theysaid.
You know I don't make the rules, I just report the news here.
Anyway, in the second half ofthe show, a little teaser, and
that's what they call a teaserin the industry.
We had a great question lastweek.
Someone asked us continuing totalk about Apple.
It's a good segue.
If you had to switch to aniPhone, I've always said I could

(46:41):
never do it as your dailydriver what are the changes that
Apple could make to the iPhonethat would make it tolerable?
I don't remember who said this.
It was on one of my posts, Ithink on X, when I posted the
podcast last week.
And this is a great questionwhat would make it tolerable?
Because right now I feel likethere's enough things that I
couldn't tolerate it.
I would just have to go back tomy Android phone.

(47:03):
Even if someone was like goingto pay me Unless it was a lot of
money Then I would just put upwith it and just use it as a
dumb phone.
I'd just be like I won't useany of the features that annoy
me.
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All right, everybody, welcomeback.
I thought that we would talkabout one other piece of news
because I forgot something veryimportant.
Today a very exciting leak cameout about the Galaxy S26 Ultra,

(48:32):
and you know we love a goodGalaxy S26 Ultra leak.
We talked last week or a coupleof weeks ago about what's
expected for the S26 Ultra andwe talked about some exciting
features like faster charging,primary camera upgrade, and now
we have a new one.
Samsung is taking it to thenext level with the screens.
You know, tori, that we alreadyhave the anti-glare screen on

(48:53):
the S25 Ultra, which theystarted with the S24 Ultra, and
I love the anti-glare screen.
Don't you love the anti-glares?
I do, if you look at my twoscreens here, as much as I love
the z-fold 7 look at thedifference.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Look how much more reflective the z-fold 7 is.
Oh, yeah, yeah it's supernoticeable.
Yeah, I mean, the z-fold 7 isgreat, but it doesn't have the
anti-reflective coating, and,like you, even when you open the
box for um the s25, like youcould just tell, like right off
the phone you can compare it toany phone, like if I said other
phones in my desk, like theiphone perspective, you know,
especially not.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
You know not to hate an apple, even though we do like
to do that here.
Uh, the iphone is like way morereflective than the s25 ultra.
It'll blind you if you've gotlike studio lights when I'm
shooting videos, whereas the s25ultra very nice.
But now samsung's got a newtrick up their sleeve.
Leaks suggest that the GalaxyS25, sorry, s26 Ultra will adopt
FlexMagic Pixel technology.

(49:48):
It's technology that implementsan AI-powered privacy film
effect digitally on the displayto improve privacy.
So think about it like a privacyscreen protector that basically
changes the viewing angle, likeminimizes the viewing angles of
your phone, if you want it to.
So let's say you're readingsomething you don't want other

(50:09):
people to see, or you're viewingsome scandalous materials that
you don't want people to see andyou're on the light rail here
in Phoenix or on the bus orwhatever you know.
You got some people around.
You just turn on your boomright there Pixel magic, flex
magic, pixel technology and thenyou know people can't really
see what you're looking at.

(50:29):
Basically, Samsung is trying toput an end to the privacy
screen protector segment.
I'm glad.
I don't own a business thatmakes those privacy screen
protectors the ones that makethem.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Who's going to take them on out?

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, because they're like well now you can just do
that digitally with a button inthe software.
Ai will just change the viewingangles using the pixels and
then people won't be able to seeyour stuff.
But this is a very appealingfeature.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, no, I think a lot of people would like this.
Even the name sounds appealing.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
It sounds it's not just magic, it's actually flex
magic.
Yes, not just magic, flex magic, flex magic.
A little jingle for it, but Icould see this being a big
selling point.
I mean, samsung is already wayahead in display space.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Obviously they have their own.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
They have their own.
You know they make displays formost other companies.
Even Apple buys displays fromSamsung for the iPhone.
That's how good Samsung is atdisplays.
But you know, with theanti-glare they're already ahead
of everybody because nobodyelse has this yeah.
If they add this FlexMagicPixel-changing technology for
privacy on the S26 Ultra, likethe display games, go into the

(51:35):
next level for Samsung.
I think this makes the S26Ultra a massively appealing
upgrade for a lot of people.
Oh yeah, I mean faster charging, which we haven't gotten in
years.
Better primary camera upgrade,which we haven't gotten in years
Years.
We're seeing this, which is afeature that we didn't even
expect.
This is a surprise feature.

(51:55):
The only thing that couldreally kill my vibe about the
whole thing is that they're likeyeah, we got all these really
cool new features and then atthe end of the keynote they're
like but you guys will noticethey're on the bottom.
There's no more slot for the Spen.
No, why is that?
Cause the S pen has beenmurdered.
And I'd be like oh man, thatkilled my vibe.

(52:18):
You know, like Kendrick Lamar.
I know I was already singing itin my head, that's what I'm
going to say to you know, my guyTM Rowe, if I show up, when I
show up for the event you know,for Unpacked, I'll be like don't
kill my vibe TM don't kill myvibe.
I'm just trying to get the SPen for one more year, with all
these features on top.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
You know, it would be nice if they had been able to
get a bigger battery too, but Imean, I'll take it Faster.
Charging, primary cameraupgrade those are two things
I've wanted for a long time andthis cool feature.
And we're not even done seeingthe leaks.
I mean there's still probablysome surprises to come.
Plus, they're going to slim itdown a little bit, yeah, but if
the S Pen's gone, that's goingto make it a little less

(53:02):
exciting, because people aregoing to be like they did all
these cool things, but then theyalso ruined the S Pen.
It's gone.
They took it completely out,and I will have to agree on some
level about it.
If they do all this but thentake the S Pen out, that's kind
of disappointing.
So we'll have to see.
Oh, and then also the otherthing, a small thing.
Remember last week we weretalking about the S26 Pro and we

(53:22):
were debating what screen sizeit would be.
Well, that leak came out thisweek and it's going to be the
same size as the base model.
So our speculation was point on.
Some other people were tellingme it's going to be the same
size, like the Plus.
No, it's not.
The Edge is going to replace thePlus, because it's already the
same size as the Plus.
The same size as the plus, thisone will be around 6.2 to 6.3
inches, and it's going toreplace the base model.

(53:43):
So our question from last weekstill remains, though, because
there's nothing else that'sreally leaked out.
What's going to be pro about it?
Yeah because they're notchanging the screen size.
Are they putting a bettercamera in there?
I?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
hope so because if there's not a better camera in
there, like if they don't put abetter camera in the bit in the
pro.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Putting pro in there is basically just you know,
putting in words where theydon't belong.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You know like call anything pro.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
You can call a turd pro, it doesn't make it pro.
What's pro about this turd?
You know?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Sell me on this turd.
Turds are not pro.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
That's the thing.
You can put pro on any product,but it doesn't mean it's pro
unless there's really a featurethat makes it so.
I it has to have a bettercamera, the main camera has to
be upgraded this year or it'sjust a completely BS name Just
renaming the base.
So it doesn't seem so becausejust vanilla S26 doesn't sound
good.
So like what's a good word guys?
Oh, I know the other Apple theyuse pro.

(54:37):
Let's put that on there andpeople are like but what's pro
about it?
Yeah, I don't know, just justcall it pro.
You know people like that word.
It's got three letters, youknow now we've got three letters
on the base model pro, fourletters on the mid model edge,
five letters on the top modelultra.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
it's perfect three, four, five boom.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
See, it's like I'm inside these marketing meetings
yep and product development yes,they have spot on, but okay, so
we'll talk more s26, of course,in the next five months.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
We got plenty of time to get there, but those were
two very interesting.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
The uh flex magic pixel got me very excited though
.
So s26 ultra is shaping up tobe a pretty big upgrade.
I would say for anybody s24 anduh s24 and older, it's probably
a good year to upgrade s25,though it might still be
appealing if you're anenthusiast, because we're
getting some big changes thisyear.
You know I'm gonna make sure Iget tori and upgrade.
He's gonna do that year overyear and see how he feels see if
it blows his mind.

(55:32):
Yeah, he'll be like does itblow my mind or not?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
that'll be the question for tori from the s22
to the 25.
It definitely was amind-blowing, but I still miss
that S22.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Because you love those curved edges, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I did.
That was a solid phone and justthe back, you know, it just
felt like it was very nicely.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
That bronze color.
You can't beat it.
You can't beat the bronze colorsometimes Hopefully Samsung or
burgundy.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah, burgundy.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Bronze was on the Note 10, I'm sorry, but an 020.
People, bronze was on the Note10, I'm sorry, but in 020.
Oh, in 020.
People are going to be likeJeff, this guy doesn't know
anything about Samsung.
You know it's hard to get itstraight.
They got so many phones.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, they got like hundreds of.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
SKUs across the globe .
Like it's hard to remember allof them when you deal with them
every day.
We don't just write about theflagships at Sammy Guru we do
all the lines, MFS, note, fold,flip so many different phones to
remember, Like I mean, yeah, Ienjoy it, but sometimes it's
hard to remember these things.
Okay, let's switch gears to ourquestion.

(56:29):
We can talk about this formainly the rest of the show.
Someone said to me if you hadto use an iPhone daily, let's.
They didn't put a limit on it,but let's put a limit on it.
Just to cap the length of thisconversation, what are three
things that I, that Apple, coulddo to the iPhone that would

(56:49):
make it tolerable?
Where you could like use theiPhone and be like okay, this is
not bad, I could do it.
You still might prefer one UI.
This is not to say that thiswould.
This is not to say what couldApple do that would make the
iPhone your daily driver?
Because for me, the answer tothat right now is nothing.
I would never use it as mydaily driver over at One UI.
There's nothing really theycould do, because there's a lot

(57:10):
of things I don't like aboutApple and the way their business
model operates.
They would never be able tofeasibly change enough things
that would make me want to useit over Samsung at this point,
just because of the way they dobusiness.
Their business is all abouttheir ecosystem.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
And that prevents them from doing a lot of things
that would make me want to useit.
But I'll let you go first, tori.
What are three things thatApple could change or add?
Change or add to the iPhonethat would make it at least
usable on a daily basis for you?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
You know, as I kind of think about this, I'm
reflecting on this conversationI had with some friends of mine
over the weekend and theyactually brought up the same
thing you were talking about.
They got the what was it?
The desert, what was that coloryou got.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Rose, gold, yeah, I mean he's like man.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I really hate this color that I got because it
looks like.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
It looks like rose gold and I'm like hey, my buddy
jeff literally said this theexact same thing, yeah you
really shouldn't market rosegold under different names,
because you're going to get alot of people who wanted a more
rugged color.
Yeah, that's your titanium.
I don't care if there's men wholike rose gold I'm not saying
that like rose gold.
Rose gold is not a woman colorbut you're going to get a lot of

(58:25):
guys who don't really want apink or rose phone yeah, and
they're going to want somethingdifferent and they see the name
Desert Titanium and it looks alittle different online in the
images that are in hand, andthey're going to buy it and
they're going to be like man,they get it, they're going to be
upset.
That's what happened to me.
Thankfully, this year thespecial color is orange.
Okay, from the renders it looksorange.
It's kind of hard to be.

(58:45):
I mean, of course, they'llprobably call it something like
you know, like uh, mojave orangeor something, but as long as
it's orange and not rose gold.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I'm okay with it, but go ahead, you can, yeah, yeah,
uh, okay, yeah, I mean overall,uh, I think, um, obviously they
can't be Samsung, but okay, likea key thing to me, that, and
actually I kind of want to startoff with this and then it'll
all make sense.

(59:15):
I think in the end I reallyenjoyed their ecosystem, that
they have their ecosystem, thatthey have um, but like when I,
whenever I use an iphone, um,everything just kind of seems
like boom, the presentation isnice, but then it's like I, you
know I in terms of the using,like the camera, I feel like I I

(59:39):
would like you know a bettercamera um, just like the feel in
the hand, like like whenever Ihold an iphone, to me it just
seems a little bit more bulkier.
I wish it was kind of a more ofa slimmer fit um to me, like in
my hand, like with the samsungslabs.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
so you're saying like the weight yeah, because I
think the iphone is heavier thanthe S25.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah, yeah.
And every time I hold an iPhoneit feels heavier in my hand and
just like the icons.
I never liked their icons.
What don't you like about theiricons?
I'm just curious.
So like to me they're all likevery bright color poppy, which I
know, like we're kind ofgetting that way.
You know some aspects uh withsamsung.

(01:00:23):
But like when I look at thesamsung icons, like like my
phone just, or when I look at it, the icons just kind of just
seem like nice and like I'm notgetting blind with like a bright
red here or a bright, brightpink here right, you know, green
here, like I, um, everythingjust kind of feels like an
old-timey phone, I, I, if Iguess you know for like older

(01:00:45):
people uh, but like when I lookat samsung's, like everything
just looks like nice and sleek,and so you know, I would kind of
want that for iphone to be alittle bit nice and sleek so so
far the weight and the ui.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah it, weight and ui and what's the last one?

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
uh, see the last one.
I like how samsung has likemore options for entry into
getting you know a samsung phoneand I feel like apple like that
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
How many options they got like two yeah, I mean, well
, they got the pro and the promax, they're just different
sizes, and then they got the Proand the Pro Max.
They're just different sizesand then they got the base model
.
So, essentially, but yeah, Imean, samsung has a lot more
options.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot more options, yeah, yeah,
and as an average consumer, Iwould like to see more options
from Samsung and not Samsung,but from.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Apple.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Just for different levels of entry, for different
levels of people.
I like to see that a little bitmore For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Yeah, they definitely don't cater to the more
mid-range segment.
I think they could definitely.
They've tried a couple of timeswith, like their mini, their
iPhone minis or their SEs.
Yeah, and there's supposed tobe a new SE coming, but they
don't have nearly.
Samsung has like 40, 50different mid range across the M

(01:02:04):
, the F and the a series.
Yeah, and Apple doesn't try todip their toes in that too much.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
And also, if I can add one more.
I just kind of came through youknow, really, with everything
being like Google now, like andit's been like forever since I
use like an iPhone, you know, II don't know how much of an
integration you can have withGoogle, but you know, with
Google just being literally andlike just about everything that

(01:02:29):
I do and use, just being able tohave like a good integration
with Google in certain levels.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Not having access to, not having that persistent
integration with your Googleaccount is definitely a downside
, I think.
Because they force you to useApple stuff, if you're from the
Android side and thinking aboutswitching to iPhone.
It's a downside.
If you're already on the iPhoneside.
Of course it's not a downsideto you, but if you are thinking
about going from Android toApple, that direction, losing
your Google integration andacross Google services is, I

(01:02:59):
think, a downside For me.
The first one is definitely thenotifications.
Their notifications are justawful in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
They don't bundle them and they just kind of slide
up from the bottom and once youview a notification, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
You don't really have an easy way to archive that
notification.
They've tried to make somechanges that do some of that a
little bit, but it stillrequires a little too much
triaging for my liking, whereasin my samsung phone, if I want I
can just leave the notificationthere I can.
I can look at it in thenotification shade, leave it
there and I have to do nothing.
It'll still be there when Icome back and I can triage it

(01:03:39):
and do something with it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Now for iPhone.
Does like all the cause Inoticed on, like my girlfriend's
phone, all the notificationsjust appear like on the lock
screen and they just kind ofstay.
And I'm like I don't want allthat, like even when Android had
them on the lock screen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
you could still minimize them to icons and then
expand them, and that's a hugething that I really like.
I could triage them from thelock screen, but I didn't have
to have them all visible.
And also, they were there if Iwanted them, but not if I didn't
.
It's just a really bad in myopinion.
The notifications areunbearable.
It's the number one reason why,whenever I have to use an
iPhone on a daily basis, I'venever had to, but if I ever do

(01:04:25):
like I say, I'm out and I justhave my iPhone because we're
traveling and like it's on AT&Tand wherever we're at, AT&T has
the best service.
Yeah, and I end up using it.
I just get infuriated with thenotifications.
I don't like them.
I don't like the management.
It's usually okay if I'm takingit on vacation and I have to
use it because I'm not reallytriaging a lot of notifications
yeah.
But if I had to use that for aworkday, I'd be really upset
because obviously I'm archivingstuff and trying to deal.
I get a lot of email and so I'mtrying to deal with all that

(01:04:46):
stuff in real time while I'mdoing other stuff, and that's
just very annoying because theirnotifications are not conducive
to that, in my opinion.
The other problem the secondone for me, so that's the first
one notifications.
They'd have to overhaul thenotification system.
They'd have to blow it up.
It'd have to be a little moresimilar to android for me to
deal with it on a day-to-daybasis actually can I give a
shout out to samsung on that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
uh, at first, when I got this 25, uh, I didn't like
how the notifications were likeon the corner one side and then,
like you have the settings andstuff on the other, like and
saying all that too andreflecting, I'm like, yeah, I
actually really like that.
I can just swipe away from thenotifications and it's still
there at night and I can stilljust do my own stuff at the end
of the day samsung gave you theability to combine that again.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
If you don't like the new, the change that's.
The thing I like about samsungis usually, if they do something
that's going to upset theirusers, they at least do give you
a way to change it.
Um, they don't also alwaysnecessarily make it that easy.
This time they did theyactually told you, but sometimes
you have to go and find a guylike me, which is good, because
that gives me a job.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
You go find Sammy Gurr.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
You go find my YouTube channel and you watch a
video and you learn how tochange it back to the way you
want it, but they do at leastusually give you an option.
Sometimes Apple changes stuffand they'll be like, oh, you're
just going to live with thatjust the way.
We know what's best for you.
You don't know what's best foryou.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
In story.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Tim Cook will tell you what you need.
You won't tell yourself whatyou need.
Tim Cook dictates what you need.
But Samsung usually doesn't dothat.
There's, of course, exampleswhere they have and of course
they're a big company.
Sometimes they have to make adecision for business reasons,
just like Apple, but they trytheir hardest I would say at

(01:06:23):
least 10 times harder than Appleto, if they make a change, not
to alienate users and give theman out to go back to their old,
you know UI.
The second thing for me is adedicated back gesture or back
button.
The iPhone does not have a backbutton.
That's a universal back buttonand on Android we take that for
granted.
If you're on any screen, you canhit a button or do a gesture
and go back to the previousthing On an iPhone if you're on

(01:06:43):
a window, you've got to go allthe way back to the top and hit
that little arrow that goes backIn Safari, wherever you are.
Now they have a little thingwhere you can swipe along there
to get between windows andcertain apps, but it doesn't
work in all of them.
It's not a universal button.
Sometimes the iPhone peopletell me oh, but there's a way

(01:07:06):
you can do it.
It doesn't work on all of them.
I know all the little iPhonethings.
They don't work in every app.
They're not universal.
It's not built into iOS.
That's another one that's justlike notifications, where it's
like absolutely infuriating.
If I had to use it on a dailywork basis because I'm going
back between so many differentapps and because I'm doing a lot
of stuff for email, forspreadsheets, for whatever I
really get tired of not having a, not having a back button.
What?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
do you think about that?
Wouldn't that, doesn't thatwould not be upsetting?
I even know again, you thinkabout it.
I I haven't touched it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
I think the last time I had an iphone was iphone 3
that I got from like a game stopso you don't even think about
it, you just take it for granted.
As an android user, it's likeI'm to have a back button when
I'm using my phone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I know, and actually yeah, Now that I'm even now I'm
looking at my Samsung, it's sonice that we do have a way to
just kind of I can look at allthe things I have running.
I have the back button, I canget back to home.
Like all within a thumb's reach?
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
That's actually really nice.
Yeah, that is actually part ofit.
This is probably the biggestone is the back button, but that
goes along with the other thingthat I miss when I leave One UI
to go to the iPhone One UI inits name.
The goal is to be good forone-handed use.
Yeah, the iPhone, for whateverreason Apple decides to keep
designing iOS is not very goodfor one-handed use it's very

(01:08:24):
much a phone that's hard to usewith one hand, and that's one of
the reasons why I get inferior.
When I use it, uh, for a longperiod of time is because I'm
like, well, I frequently feellike I need to use my other hand
, especially for the backgesture, because, like I mean,
it's a big phone and yeah I havebig hands I can stretch to
reach.
But it's like that's just easierjust to pull my left hand over
and tap the back in the backarrow or whatever in that top

(01:08:46):
left corner.
It'd be way better if I couldjust do a gesture or tap the
button on the bottom like I canin a samsung phone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Just, I know that I'm always going back to the
previous screen yeah like thatbutton always does the same
thing and, uh, I'm writing in it, but I mean, like for the back
button to be on the.
I don't know if you can flip it.
You can, you can't oh see, boom,there you go.
Samsung thinks of everything,yeah, um, but like it's really
nice to just be able to, becauseI feel like it's more of a
reach to get over to the leftside of the phone but to have it

(01:09:13):
just so readily available onthe right hand side, especially
when you're out and about as mydaily driver, walking around,
it's just really nice to be ableto boom.
I don't even have to reach ordo a whole lot of that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
I do think they should make it a little easier
to change it to the left-handedside, because there's a lot of
left-handed people.
It's obviously not the majority, but they don't make it as easy
.
You can go in settings and doit, but they should make that an
option really in the setupwalkthrough.
I agree, I'm sure that wouldmake our left Like when you go
through.
It'd be like, if you're usinggesture I mean if you're using
buttons would you like to flipthe buttons?
A lot of people with their lefthand it would probably say, yes

(01:09:45):
, I want to flip the buttons, oreven just say are you
right-handed or left-handed?
I mean, I think they've kind ofwent to the thought process of
they just want everybody to usegestures, but not everybody does
.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
I mean, I love gestures, but I still know a ton
of people who uses the buttons.
I use zero gestures.
My mother-in-law uses thebuttons.
My mom uses the buttons.
Yeah, Tori uses the buttons.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Almost everybody else I know basically uses the
button nav still.
Yeah, I mean I've been usinggestures since whenever they
launched them which I don'tremember what that was Like the
Galaxy S8, I've been using for along time, like nine years, but
everybody I know uses Samsung,which is a lot of people,
because if they know me, youknow I don't.
I'm not friends with people whodon't use Samsung.
No, I'm just kidding but youknow they all use the three

(01:10:26):
button nav, so you know that'sthat's kind of a thing that I
enjoy.
The last one.
For me, the third one has to bethe customization of Samsung.
There's just so muchcustomization.
It's not just Samsung, it'sAndroid as a whole.
I mean, so you could put Pixeland other Android phones.
I could easily use a Pixeldaily driver, way before I could

(01:10:46):
use an iPhone, because thedifference is as much as I was
talking about earlier someproblems that Google has.
There's much fewer differencesbetween the Pixel and the
Samsung versus the Samsung andthe iPhone because, yes, there's
not as much customization but Ican still like change my icon
pack.
I still have a back button,yeah, back gesture.
I still have good notificationmanagement.

(01:11:07):
Um, I can still do a lot ofthose things.
But when I go to an iphone, thecustomization is missing and
everything like do youunderstand how hard it is?
I?
I know it's not like anessential folk feature of your
phone, but I like to change myicon packs and you know how hard
it is on Apple to change anicon pack.
You have to change, you can doit, but you have to download all
the icons as separate photofiles and you have to go into

(01:11:31):
their shortcuts app andliterally change every icon on
your phone one by one byselecting it from the gallery.
I did it once on an iPhone justfor fun to see how long it
would take me.
It took me like two hours and47 minutes because I had like
127 apps.
That's like the number I haveon my S25 Ultra.
You know how long it takes meto change an icon back on my S25

(01:11:51):
Ultra About seven seconds.
I go to Theme Park, choose theicon back I downloaded, I hit
apply and all my icons arechanged and that's it, but not
only icons.
I mean, I know icons.
People say, well, that's just a,that's just a superficial
element and that's true, butit's something I like and in
addition, there are other thingsI use a lot that are not
superficial, that are key to myworkflow that I don't have an

(01:12:14):
iPhone like one hand operationplus the good lock module on the
galaxy phones you can literallyset like a diagonal gesture to
open anything.
I have a diagonal gesture thatopens the Twitter app in a
pop-up window because I tweet alot, obviously for my business,
send out a lot of social posts.
I have a long swipe gesturethat brings up all my email
widgets so I can go through andtriage my business email.

(01:12:35):
I have a diagonal up gesturethat opens Slack so I can go in
and talk to my writers atSemigurup.
All those things are not reallythat easy to do because there's
not a lot of this customizationto exactly what you want on the
iPhone.
I mean, we always say, well,there's something similar, yeah,
but not quite as good.
I've tried all of the stuffwith Apple shortcuts and they do

(01:12:56):
have some good stuff, but a lotof it's not gesture based stuff
the way Samsung has.
So that's the third thing that Iwould miss.
So notifications they need toimprove their notification
management.
They need to have a universalback button or gesture and they
need to add more customizationto iOS.
Those three things I couldprobably use an iPhone and not

(01:13:16):
be too upset about it.
I'd probably still miss One UI,because there's a laundry list
of other things that I likeabout One UI that's not on the
iPhone.
It's just those three thingsare the ones that bother me the
most.
And so for Tori Tori is sayingthe overall build of the phone.
He kind of likes the Galaxybuild better.
The UI, just the overall UI look, and I agree I don't like the

(01:13:38):
look of iOS.
The new iOS 26, the new liquidglass is like you're going to
love it or hate it, and I hateit I don't like what Apple did
there.
Yeah, I don't like it, Not afan of it.
Some people do.
And then what was the other one?
You said Tori.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Was it the Google integration?

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, google integration, so your
services are Google.
If you're onboard, you're thickin the Google ecosystem.
It's kind of hard to leaveAndroid Because obviously you
can get Gmail on your iPhone,but it's not the default app,
whereas the iOS Mail app is thedefault.
You can get all your otherGoogle apps but they're not the
default.
Google Photos on your Galaxy isthe default photos app, where
it's kind of baked in, whereason iOS the Apple Photos app

(01:14:17):
that's baked in.
So it's all these littleecosystem things, whereas if you
use Android, you really haveGoogle kind of baked into that
experience.
So I thought that was a goodquestion, an interesting
question that we could kind oftalk about for a while, and it's
a question that people ask mepretty often, like what keeps
you from using an iPhone, andthose are the main things that

(01:14:38):
keep me from using an iPhone.
Of course, also, I run abusiness.
That's really predicated onSamsung so if I started using an
iPhone as my main phone, it'dbe hard to keep running this
business.
That being said, I do want tosay for everyone who listened to
the end, I am going to bemaking some changes to my
YouTube channel over the nextfew months.
We're going to be.

(01:14:59):
I figure this is a good placeto kind of introduce it.
I'll be kind of announcing thisother places as well.
I'm going to start doing moregeneral tech reviews on my
channel and start transitioningmy usual Samsung updates and
tutorials to the Sammy GuruYouTube channel, which has about
1400 subscribers.
We've been trying to grow thatchannel and so, if you haven't
yet, go subscribe to the SammyGuru YouTube.

(01:15:19):
I'll drop the link below.
Don't unsubscribe from mychannel please, I'm still going
to be doing some Samsung stuff,of course, and I'm going to be
doing more hardware.
So I'll be reviewing theSamsung phones like I used to in
the back in the day when I usedto do 30, 45 minute reviews.
People enjoyed those.
I got away from that.
But not just Samsung.
I'll be reviewing otherhardware as well.
I might do a review of theiPhone this year to just kind of

(01:15:42):
see how the other half lives.
I'll be reviewing a ton ofAndroid phones, like the Chinese
phones, the Pixels, motorola's,all that stuff, just to broaden
my horizons a little bit, andalso be reviewing a lot of other
cool tech like smart home tech.
A bunch of AI tools are comingout these days all these kind of
crazy AI tools that'll, youknow, can clip onto your shirt

(01:16:07):
and it'll transcribe everythingyou say and summarize your day
or whatever.
All that kind of tech I'll bereviewing on my channel.
So I mean, I'm not goinganywhere, but I'm just trying to
have a little more fun because,as much as I love Samsung, if
that's all you do, I do it onthe website and YouTube.
You know, eventually you'regoing to want to be like let me
branch out a little bit.

(01:16:27):
So Sammy guru is still allSamsung.
We're never going to cover.
We're never covering iPhone onon Sammy guru and we're never
going to.
Really that's not going to beour main focus here, but I am
going to do more hardware on mypersonal channel.
It's always been called JeffSpringer.
It's never been Sammy guru.
That's why I never called itSammy Guru.
That's why I made a new channel, that's why I made the website,
so that I have the freedom todo some more reviews, because
when I started my YouTubechannel 10 years ago, the first
half of that, the first fiveyears, I reviewed every Android

(01:16:49):
phone and I reviewed someiPhones and headphones and
everything, and then five yearsago, I had to flip it to be all
Samsung, mainly software, whichhelped.
It's great because it helped me, found Sammy Guru and had a lot
of success the mystery boxes,and that's not going away.
I just want to go back to doingsome other reviews as well,
which will benefit Sammy Guru,because I'll get a chance to see
other hardware.

(01:17:10):
We'll get to do morecomparisons of Samsung to other
stuff.
What do?
you think about that, Tori.
What do?

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
you think about that.
I think that's a really goodidea, I mean because we're it at
Samsung central.
But I mean, like the, there's alot of people out there who
also follow Sammy guru, who areinterested in other tech things
and Exactly, yeah, I thinkparticularly the end.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Other Android phones and like the accessories and
stuff.
Yep, everybody needs to buyheadphones.
So no matter what phone you useand if you're a galaxy user,
that's still relevant to you.
I enjoyed doing headphonereviews back in the day.
I did quite a few of those.
Everybody needs a laptop so youcan review various laptops and
things like that and generaltech accessories and stuff.

(01:17:51):
People need that stuff and youknow, if I do an iPhone review
on my channel, you don't have towatch it, it's okay.
I just want to try to dosomething a little different but
, like I said, still going to bea lot of Samsung content on my
personal channel because I'mstill a Samsung user, still my
daily driver.
That's not going to change.
I highly doubt I'm going toswitch to any other phone as my

(01:18:11):
daily because I love One UI somuch.
And, of course, Sammy GuruYouTube will continue to be only
Samsung, nothing but Samsungand all Samsung.
Eventually we'll probably tryto flip it to where I'm doing
right now.
I do a video every day that'son Samsung on my channel.
Eventually I'm going to try todo five videos a week on Sammy
Guru that are just updates inSamsung news and then my channel

(01:18:33):
will probably have five videosa week.
Maybe three of those will begeneral tech and two of them
will be Samsung.
So I'm not getting rid of theSamsung at Jeff Springer's
personal channel, but just kindof mixing it up a little bit to
give a little flavor.
It's all about the flavor.
You know, like a little flavor,Everybody does.
Oh, yeah, everybody, anyway, Ithink that's pretty much it for

(01:18:53):
the podcast this week.
Any closing thoughts?
Tori.
I know just keep expanding yourgalaxy.

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