Samsung's Paint Peeling Excuses + Z Fold Special Edition Incoming

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everybody.
This is episode number 11 ofthe Sammy Guru Podcast.
My name is Jeff Springer andwith me is my co-host, torrey.
Hey, how's it going?
And yeah, we're back.
We made it through episode 10and all the way to episode 11.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I was thinking maybe we'd just quit after 10.
It's a pretty bigaccomplishment, but you know
Torrey's like maybe we shouldjust come back and do the 11th
one.
So here, we are.
We're actually here on aSaturday.
Usually we're here on Fridayafternoon.
So Tori and I, you know, have alittle bit different look today
.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Maybe a little less tired, maybe a little less tired
, I don't know.
Casual.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, a little more casual today.
We're just hanging out here atthe office on a Saturday A lot
of interesting Samsung news totalk about.
And yeah, you guys know Ireally love you because it's the
first college football Saturday.
And yeah, you guys know Ireally love you because it's the
first college football Saturdayand I came in to actually do it
.
I thought about canceling itbecause I was like I don't want
to miss the college football,but I decided to go ahead and

(00:54):
come in and still do it.
Luckily, Alabama doesn't playuntil later today.
It's Georgia-Clemson thoughright now, so we are missing the
big Georgia-Clemson gamestarted right now as we started
the podcast at 9 am Arizona time, so maybe we'll make it for the
second half.
For those who don't know, Toriand I are huge Alabama Crimson
Tide fans.
We're both born in Alabama, weboth lived there for a big part

(01:18):
of our childhood and soobviously, as a result, if you
live in Alabama lots of the timeanyway, you're either an
Alabama or an Auburn fan.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Thankfully we are not Auburnfans.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Thank God for that, but yeah, so it's a big, big
game today, not becauseAlabama's playing anyone good,
but it's the first game of theKalen Daybor era Next.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Saban is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
And it was very weird .
This morning I woke up before Idrove in to do the podcast here
at the office and I turned oncollege game day.
You know that's espn's likeshow.
They do before the footballstarts on saturday and nick
saban is now like an analyst on.
It's so weird seeing nick sabanlike doing college football
analysis, like he's supposed tobe on the sidelines.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's like what is Nick Saban doing?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
We have a game today.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
He's in a new commercial for getaway home
rentals as well.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
He's just making all that money.
That's good for Nick Saban.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
He earned it.
I'm not mad at Nick Saban.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
The guy came in, he more championships than Bear
Bryant.
You can't really like no oneever thought Alabama was going
to have another dynasty thatwould rival Bear Bryant, let
alone surpass it.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
For a very long run.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, I mean we had like 15, 16, 16 years of like
every year we were competing fora national title.
Most college football fan basesthey can't really hope to ask
for that.
No one gets that.
So I think Cale and Dave willdo a great job.
I don't necessarily think we'regoing to win a national title
this year, but new playoffformat this year 12 teams.

(02:57):
We should make the playoff.
At least this team should begood enough to do that, agreed.
What else have you been doingthis week, Torrey?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Let's see Just work, work and working.
Let's see, the football seasonalso started off at the high
school.
So we played the big ChandlerWolves.
They're ranked number eight inArizona and I think we're ranked
105.
But we really did give them arun for their money, I mean for

(03:26):
the majority.
Up until the last five minuteswe were only trailing by two
points.
So you know, I think it was areally good start to the
football season and I thoroughlyenjoyed the game.
So that was like my really bigthing.
I was looking forward to thisweek.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh, you went to the game last night.
Actually it was on a Thursday.
Oh, it was on Thursday forvarsity, Because normally
varsity is on Friday.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, that one was weird, but all the other games
will be on Friday for varsity.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, Nicole, when she taught at her high school
they were awful.
The first year she went, theydidn't win a single game.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I still went to a bunch of the games.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's fun, but it's not as fun when the team is oh
and 10 yeah, it's like when arewe gonna win a game, guys?
I know right, it's like we haveno hope to go to the playoff,
the state playoffs or anything,but we just want to win one yeah
, just give us one, just onegame, that's all we want.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's our goal for the season but luckily they got
better over the time that shewas there.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
So but, yeah, I really do enjoy seeing high
school football as well.
Uh, it's always feel like, youknow, if I know somebody that's
attached to the school, it'skind of just strange to go to a
regular high school game, causeI don't have any connection to
the schools.
But, um, you know, if you don'tknow somebody who teaches there
or you teach there, it's kindof same atmosphere like because

(04:46):
when these guys are paying,playing for tens of millions of
dollars, the fans, they'reenthusiastic, but it's not as
like enthusiastic when it's justfor the pride of, like, your
school school.
Yeah, the community now collegeisn't necessarily like that
anymore either, because thoseguys are now not making tens of
millions, but they're makinghundreds of thousands or
millions of dollars.
Uh, the best players becausebecause of the NIL deal, but old

(05:07):
college football and then highschool people are just playing
because they love the game.
That's what I did when I playedhigh school football.
I wasn't getting paid any money, obviously.
I wish I was, because I wasplaying in the 110-degree
Arizona heat for the first twomonths.
It's pretty much September, butit's still like over.
It's around 110.
So, yeah, we talk about theheat every week, but hey, you

(05:28):
guys gotta get used to it.
This is arizona.
That's what people do in thesummer.
When it gets to the fall, Iwon't talk about the heat
anymore, because then I'll justbe telling you about how nice it
is here and you'll be like ohno, there's 15 inches of snow
where I live and I'm like Idon't know what to tell you.
It's 75 degrees outside, I don'tknow.
And so, yeah, let's go aheadand jump right in to the news.
Samsung news Got a little bitof an interesting slate this

(05:51):
week.
Oh, and an update Last week,remember we talked about Google,
the Pixel Studio, pikachu withthe vodka deal, and I said
Google probably will interviewan apology.
This week they kind of did.
They issued one to the Vergeand a couple of other websites
where they said that, eventhough Pixel Studio was created
with the intention of givingusers the freedom to create what

(06:14):
they want, to have creativity,maybe they need to refine the
algorithm some.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, you think, and maybe I mean I don't think it's
a maybe.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think it's definitely.
We need to refine the algorithm.
For sure the one I showed youguys last week is the minimum
amount of like obscenity andvulgarness that you could get.
There were people who did somereally bad things and if you
check, like I said, variouswebsites, even some of the tech
sites, publish some of them.
Like there was one where, likeMario, someone created one where

(06:49):
, like mario was a nazi leader,like mario was hitler, it it'll
do like that kind of it would dothat kind of stuff with like no
hesitation.
Um, now, they did obviouslytweak it.
They tweaked it server side,because I tried some of these
things earlier this week andsome of them don't work now and
do it.
So obviously they're refining iton a granular level, but I
think it needs like a more deeprefinement yeah, and I do think
samsung is ahead there, becausesamsung had the intelligence
when they pushed out sketchedimage, like to make sure it

(07:12):
wasn't going to generateanything that was like super
obscene.
And not only that, they alsohad kind of the foresight to put
a watermark on the images,because google doesn't put a
watermark.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
So you don't know, like if you see mario as a nazi
leader you'd be like.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Did nintendo put that out there?
Yeah, right like.
Was that made by nintendoamerica?
So you don't know, becausethere's no like watermark saying
this was made with pixel studio.
So they should probably dosomething about that.
But they did issue a halfstatement.
It wasn't a full statement.
Um, so, getting into the Samsungnews this week, we have some
interesting stories here.
I'm starting with one that kindof broke at the end of the week

(07:49):
.
I made a video and Sumitcovered this story.
Samsung released a statement invarious countries saying that
paint is peeling off of Galaxyphones due to cheap third-party
chargers galaxy phones due tocheap third-party chargers.
So if you look at the story hereand I'll pull it up so you guys

(08:10):
can also see it who arewatching the video version on
the website if you look at thephotos on the website, like
people have these paint chips tosee this guy's z-fold.
They've got like these paintchips missing out of their
phones and it appears to be thez-fold six specifically.
See that right here around thepower button.
Now I don't have any.
I checked my.
I have my z-fold six right hereand if you go watch my video on

(08:32):
youtube, I actually showed aclose-up you can see mine like
there's no paint.
Yeah, no chipping on mine oranything, um, but this does seem
to be a problem where a lot ofpeople have been talking about
this on reddit I've seen.
You know, obviously, when aproblem is kind of widespread
because of the volume thatsamsung sells of their phones
yeah, you're going to see like alot of people talking about it
and if you only see like one ortwo, it's not a big deal.

(08:53):
but I've seen like 30, 40, 50people talk about this.
Usually that means there'ssomething going on.
I mean, you would say if it wasjust one or two people, maybe
those people scuffed their phoneor they dropped it and they're
just making a big deal trying toget a replacement.
But if it's 50 people on Reddit, these are the enthusiasts.
So obviously they kind of talkabout stuff more than other
people.

(09:13):
But still this seems like anissue.
So Samsung commented on it.
So they gave some traction.
Whenever Samsung comments on anissue, that means they're
acknowledging that it's a realthing.
Comments on an issue, thatmeans they're acknowledging that
it's a real thing.
Because if something is justcomplete BS, samsung's not going
to take time to have their PRteam write up a statement and
publish it to their officialwebsites, because if it's not a

(09:34):
really big deal and they thinkit's just user error, then
they'll just ignore it.
So they published a statementand I'll go to the statement
here.
Basically, they're saying thatthird party chargers could be
the reason for this.
They're basically saying thatthird party chargers could be
causing the paint to peel onyour device, and it's very

(09:59):
interesting that they said this.
And actually what's interestingnow is if you go to the link
that submit link in our article,it no longer points to the same
page as before.
So very weird.
Hey, this is what happens whenyou do a lot of podcasts.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Did.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Samsung change their statement on this?
I guess maybe we shouldresearch this a little bit.
Samsung said he has the pullquote there.
It says Samsung said, however,there are third-party and
counterfeit chargers on themarket that do not meet the
requirements from the Qistandard and they can corrode

(10:40):
the metal of your device.
And then they had a picture aswell of how this could happen.
Basically, your phone connectedto a third-party charger and
they're saying basically, thesethird-party chargers like on
Amazon that are kind of cheap,that are not made by reputable
third-party brands, could causethis kind of problem.
Now I'm kind of curious, sincewe do this live I mean, hey,

(11:01):
this is live investigativerecording Let me see if I can
kind of search over on umsamsung's website and see if the
other companies, if anybodyelse, has kind of have another
statement from samsung, becausethey obviously remove this from
their website.
So I wonder if they're sayingthat this is not an issue.

(11:24):
Yeah, so let's click thissupport page.
Oh no, so I don't know why thesupport page that we linked it
looks like they might haveremoved it from the uk support
page, but the canadian one isstill live.
So I don't think this is.
I don't think samsung has, like,retracted their statement.

(11:46):
I just wanted to give you guysthe most up-to-date information.
This is still there, so this isthe same statement.
I think they just must haveremoved it from the UK page.
So I'll go back and update thelink on our website.
I don't know why they wouldremove it from Canada but not
remove it from, or remove itfrom the UK but not from Canada,
but obviously I'll go back anddo that.

(12:06):
So, anyway, this is veryinteresting.
I made a video on it and evenin my comment section on YouTube
, people had said that they hadthis issue as well, not only on
the Z Fold 6, but also on someother phones.
So, and then also some peoplewere chiming in saying that's
complete BS.
Samsung just made poor quality,you know lamination on the

(12:27):
paint, and now they're blamingthird party chargers.
What do you?
What do you think about thisstory?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know, I'm actually like a little ticked
off, you know, cause I thinkagain as like an average
consumer, and also as as mostpeople who do, who are not like
Samsung enthusiasts or, you know, keeping up with the tech of
all time, but like if they'renot going to include chargers,
like with the phones and thenwith the rise of everyone buying

(12:58):
a lot of their stuff off ofAmazon, like people, like if
they just paid all this money toget this really expensive phone
.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
That's what most people were saying.
Yeah, and Tori is right.
It's like how can you complainthat people aren't using your
first-party charger when youdon't put it in the box?
You're like make sure.
At the end of the supportarticle, too, it actually says
at the end make sure you'reusing an authentic Samsung

(13:27):
charger that's designed for yourspecific device.
Well, that's great.
Why don't you put one in thebox that the phone comes with?
Because how do I know it'sdesigned for my specific device,
right?
This is what's hypocritical, too, about Samsung wanting to
appeal to the more generalconsumer base, like the Apple
fans and all that.
Wanting to appeal to the moregeneral consumer base like the

(13:47):
apple fans and all that.
Like, if you want to appeal tothose people, those people are
not educated as much on tech asyour general, like the samsung
audience has been for years,because they're enthusiasts.
Those people might not knowwhich chargers designed for
their phone.
So how, how can they go out andbuy a third-party charger
that's compatible with theirphone?
Just put it in the box, becausethen they know they're like
this is my charger because itcame in.
It came with the z-fold six itwas in the box when I bought it.

(14:09):
Samsung obviously endorses it,so if I charge with this I
shouldn't have any problems.
Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, I thinkthis is kind of annoying for a
lot of people.
I think it's it's it'shypocritical in the fact that
you're telling people that theyshould.
They're you.
They're doing something wrongwhen you didn't offer them a
charger specifically with thisphone, which seems to be the
biggest problem.
This is a 1900 phone, yes, andnow you're telling them to go

(14:30):
buy another 50 official samsungcharger.
That's how much the 45 watt oneis, so mead had linked it in
the article at the bottom, um,on top.
Now, to be fair, all thereputable charging brands that I
advertise on my YouTube channel, that I'm partners with, that
we put in the mystery boxes,like Anker, basis, uag those are

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all fine and Samsung is notsaying that they aren't.
Those are certified by Samsung.
There's really cheap ones onAmazon where you can get a
charger like 45-watt charger forlike $4.
I would not buy that.
Don't buy $4 chargers.
It's not a good idea, not justfor paint peeling, corrosion,
but serious electrical issueslike fires and stuff you don't
really want to.

(15:11):
A charger is not a place whereyou want to buy the cheapest,
like there are some things likea case.
If you don't really care aboutyour case being protective, you
just want something to make itnot get scratches, you don't
care about drop protection, thensure you could buy a $4 case
and maybe it would be okay.
But don't buy a $4 charger,because that's something where,
if they're not designing itproperly, you could have some

(15:31):
serious issues and risks,particularly with fire.
I mean, this is another thingbut fire and causing harm to you
and your family.
Spend a little more money on acharger to get a company that's
certified by the brand.
I'm not saying spend $50 onSamsung's charger.
I wouldn't do that.
Anker and Basis have chargersthat are like $18 to $20 that

(15:55):
are certified, also 45 watts.
So save $30 off of Samsung andthen buy one of those and you
should be fine.
But yeah, samsung really shouldput these chargers in the box
and then they're going to saypeople are making errors and
paints peeling off because theydon't have a first-party charger
.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I just want to add one thing to it.
Have you ever noticed that,okay, like for Apple products,
like chargers and stuff, they'revery easily available when you
go to like Walmart and Targetand seeing them, but like you
never really see Samsungchargers.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Or Samsung items, but like you never really see
Samsung chargers, that's right,or Samsung items, and so if you
really do want to appeal to thatVM base to persuade them over,
they need to get it out.
They need some first-partyaccessories in the retail stores
.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, the only place you can find them really is Best
Buy.
Best Buy, yeah.
And even then, when you go to aBest Buy, if you don't go right
at the launch, you're not goingto find the full range.
If you go to Best Buy now it'sbeen only a month since this
phone launched If you go inthere, you probably won't find
every case option, whereas ifyou go in there for Apple, they
got every color, every size.

(16:57):
They got everything that youcould possibly want in addition
to charging products.
Yeah, accessories has alwaysbeen a weak spot.
Samsung really needs to do abetter job of putting their
first party accessories out, butthey also need a better job of
partnering with third parties tomake sure that, like they're
advertising and getting their,their products out there yeah,
um apple I think does a verygood job of like.

(17:18):
they give early access to likethe designs of their devices to
some of the big manufacturers oraccessories and I think they
also subsidize it, subsidizesome of the Apple works for them
to make sure they place iPhonepriority in terms of getting the
max number, because if you everlook at case colors for
different stuff, samsung alwayshas maybe one and Apple has

(17:39):
seven.
So if you go on any majorwebsite except a couple,
exceptions, like UAG, theyusually have the full range
available for Samsung.
So bravo to them.
Seven, yeah, so like if you goon, like any major website.
Except a couple exceptions,like uag, they usually have the
full range available for samsung.
So bravo to them.
But, uh, and maybe speaking,but like most case companies,
they have like 10 colors for theiphone 16.
And then it's like I want acase for my s24 ultra.
They're like, here I have ablack case, yeah, but I don't

(18:00):
want a black case.
They're like, well, too bad,you're a samsung user, you're
gonna, you're gonna have a blackcase.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
They're like well, too bad.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
You're a Samsung user , that's all you get You're
going to have a black case andyou're going to be happy with it
.
Now, of course, you could gosomewhere like Casetify.
They charge you $90 for aflower print case, but I don't
want to pay $90 for a flowerprint case.
And also Casetify had some.
They ordered some hot water fordoing some very unsavory things
earlier this year, so don'tknow if you want to buy a case
from them.
We can talk about that anothertime.

(18:24):
But a lot of you probably knowthey got in some legal trouble
with another youtuber, with umzach from jerry rig everything
and d brand um.
Let's talk about the z foldspecial edition.
So we were originally thinkingthat the new z fold that's going
to come out next in october ornovember is going to be called

(18:45):
the 6 Slim.
Well, it turns out that is notthe name.
This week it leaked fully thatthe name will be the Z Fold
Special Edition.
So that is what it's going tobe called.
Samsung is going to remove the6 from it and this is the story
right here that Samit wroteForget the Slim or the Ultra,

(19:05):
say hello to the Galaxy Z FoldSpecial Edition.
And this interesting move justin the way of the naming,
because in some sense.
By taking out the Z Fold 6, the6, they're kind of removing the
temptation for Z Fold 6 buyersto say, well, I just bought that
phone and released a better one.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's what they're trying to do, I think.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's like they don't want to leave the 6 there, so
people can be like, oh, you justreleased a better version of
the same phone I bought.
They're like, no, this is acompletely different fold, it's
the special edition fold.
It's not a new version of the ZFold 6.
It's the first ever Z Foldspecial edition.
So you bought a phone that's ina different line so you have no

(19:47):
reason to be upset, which iscomplete garbage.
I mean it's just marketinggarbage.
I mean I've been reading thesemarketing books trying to learn
some stuff myself and it's justpure marketing choice.
But this is a leak that prettymuch you can guarantee is true.
This came from Evie Leaks, whowe haven't talked a lot about on
this show, but he's a oldschool leaker who has been

(20:08):
leaking smartphones for like 20years online haven't ever since
Twitter X started and he alsohas one of the best track
records in the business, so youcan almost guarantee that this
is, in fact, true.
At the very least, you knowit's going to be an accurate
leak.
However, it does seem that it'sstill coming to China and South

(20:28):
Korea only.
So if you want this in the US,you're going to have to buy this
and import it, and I'm guessingit's going to be $25,000 to
$3,000 depending on where youbuy it from.
Probably I will import one fromeBay.
There's a couple of reputableKorean kind of overseas shops on
eBay that I've bought frombefore.

(20:48):
Definitely, make sure you buyfrom somewhere reputable,
because you can get fake.
There are fake Samsung andApple clones out there and
people make a lot of money offthat because they make some
garbage white label phone thatlooks like this one and then it
doesn't work, it'll break inlike two days and then you'll
have just lost three grand.
Um, a lot of other news aboutthe z-fold special edition as

(21:12):
well.
Tons of leaks came out about itthis week.
Um, it's super slim and some ofthe biggest news it could use
it looks like from the the S24Ultra's 200 megapixel camera.
So it means you actually wouldhave the same camera as the
Ultra S line on a fold for thefirst time ever.

(21:33):
That's what everyone's beenasking for.
That means the primary sensorwould basically be amazingly
good, assuming that Samsungfine-tunes the software
processing, because, of course,as we know, the S24 Ultra has
had some issues of its own withZoom but at least the hardware
would get a massive, massiveupgrade In addition to that.

(21:55):
Not only that, we talked aboutthe titanium backplate last week
.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
But it seems that the Z Fold Special Edition is also
going to have new displaytechnology.
It's going to have brand newdisplay technology that will
allow it to be one of thethinnest foldables on the market
.
The UFG panel, which isbasically a special type of
ultra-thin glass.
It has uneven thicknessunderneath the surface and

(22:24):
basically it allows them toreduce the crease.
So, we're also going to get acrease reduction.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
That would be good.
We're going to have a largercover display.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Larger main display, better under-display selfie
camera on the inside, bettercamera on the rear and still
maintain S-Pen support and stillmaintain the S Pen support.
Some people thought no S Pen,because if you make it a lot
thinner, the digitizer might notwork with the new glass, but
another leak that Sumituncovered shows that it also
will support the S Pen.
This truly could be the foldthat we always wanted from

(22:59):
Samsung.
This could finally be the foldthat everybody's looking for.
Unfortunately, it's not goingto be available officially in
the US, so if you want it,you're going to have to be okay
with one, spending a lot ofmoney, and there's no trade-in
program when you import it.
You don't trade in anything Likeif you want to get.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, if you have a Z Fold 6,.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Your option is you could sell it locally, but of
course the resale value of thesehas went down a lot because
it's been a month since thelaunch.
So you could probably sell thisfor about $1,200 to $1,300 and
then pay the difference for theother one.
But you also get no warranty.
You're stuck.
If something happens likeyou're completely screwed,
because it's an internationalphone, they won't honor the

(23:43):
warranty.
Like if you buy it in the USand it's a Samsung Korea device,
they won't honor the warranty.
You can't just send it back toKorea.
And then of course also youdon't have the official support
for all the bands.
Yeah, so like you might not get5G service.
Like even if you're a big city,like we are in Phoenix, where
on a regular phone you get 5Geverywhere because it's a
massive city.

(24:03):
If, where on a regular phoneyou get 5G everywhere because
this is a massive city, if youimport this phone, you might
only get 4G in a lot of placesYou'd probably still get 4G
everywhere because at least the4G bands have become pretty
ubiquitous but you're notguaranteed to get 5G, which for
a lot of people.
If you spend $2,500 on a phoneand you're not getting 5G

(24:27):
service, that kind of sucks.
I mean titanium backplate.
8-inch folding display on theinside, 6.5-inch cover display.
S-pin support.
New display technology toreduce the crease.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
You name it this is the package.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
This is crazy.
I mean it's absolutely insaneIf this is a preview of what the
Z Fold 7 is going to be.
I mean Samsung has a chance toreally just completely destroy
everybody else.
This would be like we talkedabout last week, when Samsung
kind of came in with the GalaxyS6 series and they just
destroyed everybody else in themarket.
No one else existed after that.

(24:57):
They just took so much Androidmarket share that LG and HTC and
Motorola basically all went outof business.
I mean, motorola still sellsphones, but not on the scale
they did like 10, 12 years ago.
They basically just puteveryone out of business.
This could be an opportunityfor them to do the same thing on
the phone.
They could just come in and say, hey, honor and Vivo and Oppo,

(25:18):
you guys have been doing somecute stuff, but we're Samsung.
We want to remind you, we'restill the big bad wolf of.
Android.
And yeah, you guys are gone, sono more market share for you
we're going to do all the stuffyou did.
Do it better, put bettersoftware on it, better software
support, longer update cycle,and that'll be the end of all of

(25:38):
that stuff.
That would be so if they dothis, so absolutely crazy.
I'm definitely importing one.
If all these things are true, Idon't really care If I have to
sell a kidney.
I'll import it to get coverageof this on the site and on the
channel.
I won't need to sell a kidney,he will do it for you.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, I won't sell it , I'm just kidding, we're doing
pretty well.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Thanks to you guys for just paying the mystery
boxes and listening to thepodcast and all the good stuff
you guys do for us that weshould be able to get one.
Even though we won't get onefor free, I will be spending.
That will be money coming outof the business pocket.
No one is going to send me afree one of those.
So you can be sure when you seethat on the channel that that uh
, sammy guru llc.
We we paid between 2500 andthree grand to get that phone

(26:19):
here, but we will have coverageof that.
Um, more s25 ultra leaks.
I know tory is interested inthat because of course he's
gonna be probably getting an s25ultra.
So the s25 ultra leaks.
They just keep uh coming outand we got some updated
information this week.
And, by the way again I mean Iknow I said it before um, samit

(26:39):
is just doing an amazing jobwith this everything you need to
know post.
It's got so much informationthere.
But the s25 ultra is thethinnest and lightest top tier
flagship.
Um.
Basically, he's talking aboutthe fact that we've got the new
specs here that are coming out.
Uh, for S25 Ultra, it should bethinner than 8.3 millimeters
and weigh less than 221 grams.

(27:01):
So that's about a 0.04millimeter reduction in
thickness and about a 11 gramreduction in weight from the S24
Ultra.
Now those sound like minusculenumbers but I can tell you from
experience I've reviewed phonesfor a long time Whenever you
have like a 10 gram to 15 gramdifference, that's something you
can notice.
In your hand it doesn't seemlike a lot because, like 10

(27:24):
grams, like oh well, you know,if you know what a gram is, it's
not that much weight, but thisis an object that you're holding
, like all day, every day.
So, like the difference between200 and what was it?
32 grams and 221 grams isactually a big difference when
you're holding it and when it'sin your pocket Because, like the

(27:44):
Z Fold 6 went down by, like Ithink, 12 or 13 grams from the Z
Fold 5.
And I can definitely notice likewhen I carry this around.
you guys notice I still have itso, like last year, I stopped
carrying my Z Fold 5 aroundafter like a month because I
just didn't like having thebrick in there.
And I didn't like having thebrick in there and I didn't find
it to be useful in my workflow.
I still carry this, along withthe S24 Ultra and also the Pixel
9 Pro XL because I'm doing somecamera tests.
But this could be a pretty bigchange, I think, for the S25

(28:08):
Ultra.
What do you think?
Do you appreciate having alighter, thinner flagship,
because the size is so big now?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh yeah, no, definitely.
I mean and I think we talkedabout this maybe on the first or
second show that we did I wasjust like a regular consumer and
you know just to like, ourpockets are only so big and I
can only imagine for our female.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, they got, like you know, some of their pants
don't even have pockets.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, I have pockets.
What's up with that?
I don't understand that Me.
I got like, you know, some oftheir pants don't even have
pockets.
Yeah, I have pockets.
What's up with that?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I don't understand that Me either.
Why don't pants people?
I mean, this is not a fashionpodcast, but you know, come on,
pants manufacturers, put somepockets on women's pants.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Please, please.
Sometimes my wife like we goplaces and I'm like can you put
this in the pocket?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
She's like you don't get any pockets, no pockets for
you because you got that purse.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's not right, man , that's not right.
It's not that hard.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Just cut some like little pieces right in.
It doesn't take much effort.
You guys could easily do it.
I'm advocating for women'srights on this.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Samsung mobile podcast too.
That's what we do here.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
But yeah, Tori, what were?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
you saying about the size?
Yeah, no, I mean, it's justlike they're just so big.
And even when they're so big,to the point, even when you wear
gym shorts, I mean there'sstill a good portion of your
phone that's sticking out whenyou're sitting down.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
It doesn't look good either.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
No, it doesn't.
But then it weighs down so muchand even when you just have it
in your hand, it is all day itcan be fatiguing, yeah, like if
you're reading or you're justlike scrolling through if even
if you're doing some work, likeit can be fatiguing to hold the
phone and so some people aregoing to make fun of that.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
But it's, it's not a, it's not really a joke.
I mean it can be fatiguing liketo hold that phone and for long
periods of time trying to showa friend, like a video, you're
like, yeah, trade off.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
And if you're trying to show a friend a video, you're
like you got to trade off hands.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
And if you're trying to read something in bed, like
if you've turned on your bluelight filter and you're doing
some reading.
If you like to read on yourphone which is reasonable on the
Fold because of course it's gotthat big, you know open it like
this.
It basically could be ane-reader.
So you know you don't want tohave something super heavy, so
were doing anything.
The weight is great and, like Isaid, definitely check out this
post.
This is everything you need toknow about the s25 ultra, so

(30:19):
meet updates this every week now.
I mean, he's updating this withleaks every single week, so part
of his weekly work is to gothrough and add stuff to this.
He's put a ton of work intothis.
It's got a q a section at theend.
So, as you're thinking about,should you buy the s25 ultra?
Definitely check out his post,so bookmark he's updating.
I know a lot of people havebeen reading that and saying how

(30:41):
much they like it, so weappreciate his efforts.
One of these days, too, we'regoing to get some meat on the
podcast because I want to getsome of his thoughts.
Obviously, he's covering thenews in the trenches every day,
so we've got to get some of histhoughts about some of these
various pieces.
One-hand Operation Plus removesSmart Select on certain devices.
Now this is apt to upset a lotof people.

(31:03):
I made the video on thisyesterday.
I wasn't planning on making avideo yesterday, but this came
out and then I was like well, Igot to, because this is kind of
a big story.
Samsung pushed an update toSmart Select and the update
actually removes a feature,which is a rare thing.
Usually, when they push anupdate to an app, particularly a
GoodLock app, it usually adds afeature or fixes some bugs.

(31:24):
So this fixes some bugs, but italso removes Smart Select.
So we talked about Smart Selectearlier on the podcast.
Basically, if you're scrollingthrough something like your
Instagram feed, let me make sureI got no explicit.
Instagram stuff here, LikeFlossy Carter says in his videos
what's going on there?

(31:45):
Make sure you got nothingexplicit.
But, anyway, if you're scrollingthrough your Instagram feed and
you see this revolutionary post, apple's going to put 16 gigs
of RAM to be the minimum intheir new Macs.
Wow, congratulations Apple.
You could highlight this andjust kind of crop it and share
that photo somewhere else, likeI can share it to Twitter.
So Smart Select works a lot ofways.
You can do it on the edgedisplay over here, but it also

(32:08):
used to work inside of one-handOperation Plus, where you could
crop your photos and just sharethem.
So they removed this.
But here's the weird thing Imade the video and I originally
installed it here on the Fold 6.
And when I installed the updateon the Fold 6, everything that

(32:28):
Samsung said in the changelogwas true.
So when I installed it and nowwhen you go into one-hand
Operation Plus, there's no moreoption for Smart Select.
Smart Select used to be righthere, right around the
screenshot, because these are inalphabetical order.
Actually, no, they're not.
Samsung doesn't do anything inalphabetical order, but for some
reason they put all the startsthat starts with S together, and
so Smart Select was right here,and now it's gone.
You used to have Smart Selectrectangle, oval, animate and pin

(32:50):
to screen so you could do anoval tool, highlight something
as an oval, a rectangle, youcould make a GIF automatically
and then you can also pinwhatever content you smart
selected to your screen forlater use.
But now it's gone.
So on the fold six and the flipsix, I tested this on both.
If you install this update, itwill remove all the smart select
options.

(33:10):
Samsung has said no idea why.
However and here's the weirdpart when I made the video.
I went through and I wasthinking, oh, I'll just do the
update live because I alreadydid it on here.
I was like I'll just showpeople what happens because I'll
do it on my S24 Ultra.
And I went through and took theupdate on the S24 Ultra.
It doesn't remove the options.
So that's actually good for Susers because for some reason if

(33:35):
you update, the smart selectoptions are not taken out.
They stay there.
So I'm super confused.
One why would Samsung remove asuper popular feature?
I use this all the time.
I tend to use it with the S Penmore and it's still there in
the S Pen menu and it's stillthere on the edge panels.
So it's not gone completely.
But a lot of people who useone-hand Operation Plus, they

(34:00):
don't want to use the edgepanels because then you have
basically one-hand OperationPlus.
I actually listed it as today'sapp of the week so we'll talk
about it a little bit later.
But you have handles on theleft and right side of your
device but the edge panel alsolives as a little handle up here
.
That's the edge panel righthere.
So if you use one-handOperation Plus, the edge panel
and the one-hand Operation Pluspanel, they can kind of conflict
with one another becausethey're both in the same spot,

(34:22):
so some people don't want to useboth.
So I don't know why theyremoved this option.
But I figured I would remindpeople again if you didn't see
my video.
If you want to keep SmartSelect on your foldables, just
don't do the update.
You can always roll back usingAPK mirror.
But on the S line phones,pretty much everyone in the
comments of my video said thesame thing.
They installed the update ontheir S series S22, s23, s24.

(34:45):
I don't think I've seen anyonewith anything older than an S22.
But I think all those phones.
If you install it, all theoptions are still there.
So you're good to go.
So you get the bug fixes andnothing is removed.
The real question is why theheck would Samsung remove this?
I don't know.
This is like a classic Samsungfeature and I think a lot of
people like this feature.
This is probably one of themost, if I had to guess, it's

(35:06):
probably one of the most usedfeatures in terms of, like the
really old Galaxy.
This has been around since, Ithink like the Note 3 or
something.
It was launched with one of theNote phones.
Have you ever used SmartSelector?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I think I've used it like once or twice.
I think that's a lot for acasual user.
You know it exists at least.
Yes, yeah For a casual user.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Like you know, for some Samsung features they don't
even know that the feature isthere, so I just don't know why
they would remove it.
It's a great tool if you sharea lot of stuff to social media
because, like, if you see aphoto on instagram, you want to
reshare it to your twitter.
You don't want to necessarilycopy, you'll crop the whole
instagram post.
You don't want to take ascreenshot of the whole thing,
you just want to crop that photo, and instagram doesn't make it

(35:45):
easy to save photos directlyfrom your instagram reel, so
you've got to, like, take ascreenshot and then you can
reshare it.
Anyway, I don't know.
We'll try to dig into that more.
I sent a question question onthe Samsung community forums to
the good luck moderators thepeople who like filter support
questions at Samsung and I alsosent a question to Samsung's

(36:06):
mobile PR.
I'm trying to finally get acontact with them because now
that we have a website, hey, youguys should be talking to us.
I mean, we're covering Samsung24 seven.
So I reached out to them alsotrying to reach out to them
about stuff that's not relatedto review units.
That way they can see that I'mnot just in it to get free
phones, because some peoplereach out to PR only when it's
about getting a new device.

(36:26):
They're like, hey, I need thatnew phone.
But you know, I want to try tohelp them improve.
That's the goal of Sammy Guruas a whole.
So I'm trying to reach outabout stuff that's not just
related to uh.
Related to that um, you might beable to disable activity alerts
on your galaxy watch soon.
So you know those alerts thatsay you need to stand up and get
off your lazy butt, yeah, yeah.

(36:47):
So you can't really turn themoff fully right now, but, uh,
you might be able to do thatvery soon.
So basically, you, right now,you can schedule it so that
they'll be off during a certaintime.
It's like, if you know you'regoing to be sitting at your desk
from like 9 to 2 or 9 to 1until lunch, you can turn it off
.
But Samsung is debating lettingyou turn them off fully, which

(37:10):
I guess is good.
But I also kind of like those,because I don't know why they
bother people, because sometimesI forget that I've been sitting
there for so long and I forgetthat I've been sitting there for
so long and I think that couldbe kind of really useful for
people to have that.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I don't like my water break because sometimes when
you're in it, you just forgetyou can drink water.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
So when, I get it.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I'm like, oh, I need to stretch, drink some water.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, yeah, it can be very helpful if you're really
in the zone.
If you're doing some work atthe computer, it's easy to
forget.
It's like when I'm at thecasino and I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
You don't even know what time it is outside.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
It's like I don't even know Is it daytime what?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
day is it?
What day is it?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Speaking of which, I was going to mention that at
some point, probably in sixweeks, might be our first remote
podcast, which means we mightboth be doing it on the computer
, because I'm going to be inVegas for the.
Steelers game that weekend.
So if you're okay with it,we'll do remote, which means
we'll just both be on the laptop.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
And we'll probably use some software to record.
We won't have the amazing micsand the amazing Rodecaster, so
the audio that week might be alittle bit below our usual
benchmark, but we'll still getit done.
Yeah, the Galaxy XR headsetspecs have leaked out, so we now
know a little bit more aboutthe Galaxy XR headset specs.

(38:29):
We've talked about this alittle bit 16 gigs of RAM and
it's going to run Android 14.
So that's very interesting.
The model number it looks likeis going to be SMI130 and its
controller is SMI610.
So the headset's SMI130, thehandheld controller's SMI610.

(38:53):
And it looks like the specs herethat we're looking at is the
single core scores are between1054 and 1088.
Multi-score between 1047 and1093.
On Geekbench, the processor hassix CPU cores and it looks like
16 gigs of RAM here.
So this is looking interesting,but I still think the problem

(39:16):
here is more not having to dowith the specs and more having
to do with, like, what is theuse case of this?
Because we talked about thisbefore, tori, a lot of people
that I saw go out and purchasethe Apple Vision Pro, like they

(39:37):
were super excited about theApple Vision Pro and then six
weeks later I saw them postingon Twitter and they're like hey
look, my Apple Vision Pro isboxed up and in my closet
because I don't use it anymore.
Because they're back to usingtheir laptop and smartphone and
all their traditional tech Forthe first two weeks after they
got it.
They're like, oh, I'm in thefuture and I'm doing all my word
processing and computing usingApple Vision Pro.

(39:59):
But then most of those peoplethey went back to like, no, I'm
back to using my phone and myMacBook Air and my MacBook Pro
or whatever Windows machine Ilike.
They didn't just keep doingthat forever.
So I mean, I don't know what doyou think?
I feel like it's not about thehardware for this.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
It's about.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
The hardware is part of it.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
But the software, like the use case, like tell
people why they need to use it.
Yeah, that's how you're goingto sell these, don't you?
Don't you think, yeah, no, um,I, I just don't think we're
there yet.
I mean, still, uh, I think Iwent to target last weekend and
again, seeing all like the vrheadsets and stuff, still, just
like I haven't moved, I don'treally see anyone buying them.
Um, you know, I, and just likewhat we said too, like I'm not

(40:43):
gonna go to starbucks and see,or even myself, right using this
sitting there at starbucks,yeah, middle of starbucks yeah
now there have been some idiotsdo that for like tiktok views,
but then people aren't doingthat for real.
Yeah, no uh, yeah, I just I justdon't think we're there as a
society yet of seeing that oreven like again, it's kind of

(41:05):
like where do you find the timeto even try to learn and use it,
and when it's just so mucheasier to be using your normal
devices at the moment?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
um, but like wouldn't mind wanting to try it, but I
just don't see myself doing thatyou have to have a
revolutionary use case tointroduce new tech and let it
really take over.
When the smartphone first camepopular, when Apple introduced
the iPhone, they're the ones whostarted the smartphone
revolution back in 2007.
That was a completely new wayto do so many things you had.

(41:41):
Instead of having just a thingthat you could make calls and
texts with in your pocket.
Now you had a thing that was abrowser.
It was a word processor.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
It was a video caller .

Speaker 1 (41:50):
You had a calculator, video caller, voice recorder.
It's got like 200 devices inone.
It revolutionized your life byreleasing that device.
Hundred devices in one.
Like it revolutionized yourlife by releasing that device.
So you know, like the xr andthe ar and vision pro headsets,
like what are they doing?
That's revolutionizing my life,like if I could put one on and
I could teleport to mars forreal.

(42:10):
Or like I could time travelwith it then I'd be like oh well
, yeah, that's going to be a bigdeal.
People are going to love thatand it's probably going to be
the end of the world, becauseyou know people go back and
change the time continuum.
You know, we've seen the movies, we know that that's not good
and if you give that toconsumers it's going to be a
disaster.
Right, because there'll be noone to go back and fix it
because everybody will have goneback and messed up things there

(42:33):
.
But it doesn't do that.
So I don't know.
I mean like I need a compellingreason.
I'll get one because it's goingto be Galaxy and this is Sammy
Guru, but I don't know how muchI'll use it.
I kind of feel like I'm goingto be one of those people on the
Apple side where I buy it andfor the first two weeks I'm like
guys, I'm in the future, I'mdoing all my video editing on my
Galaxy XR.

(42:54):
And then like two weeks laterI'll be like oh, that hurt my
neck and I'm kind of tired ofwearing that around and looking
stupid so now I'm back to usingmy MacBook Pro, my Book 4 Edge
and then my regular phone andtablet.
It sounds cool, it soundsinteresting, but there's still a
lot of like considerations thatyou have to kind of take into
account.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
You know, I think like if people were using it
like in the privacy of theirhome, I can see them maybe, but
like I feel like people likewant to go places for like the
scenery and the vibe right,it'll kind of take you out of
that.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, exactly, and so I think that's what some of
these places, what thesecompanies are missing, like it's
cool that like you can feellike you're in Tokyo, but it's
not the same as being in tokyoyeah, because there's a lot of
other things than just likeseeing stuff, like the people,
the food, the language, like thegenuine part of being in tokyo,

(43:51):
and the act of traveling tosomewhere like tokyo is
obviously a big part of it.
Yeah, so, even though the appealis like, look, you can put this
on, and then it feels likeyou're're in the middle of Tokyo
not really, though.
I mean a lot of these appealsthat Mark Zuckerberg and other
people made when they firstintroduced these headsets.
They haven't really come tofruition yet.

(44:11):
So that's the problem.
Last thing in the news beforewe get on to the second half of
the show Google delays theAndroid 15 update, and so this
is bad news for those of uswaiting for One UI 7.0, because
Google is now saying that Pixelsare not going to get Android 15
until October.
So that's a long time.

(44:33):
That's over 30 days away.
So people keep wanting me toupdate them on the status of One
UI 7.0 and 6.1.1.
There really are no updates.
I keep not making videos aboutit.
I made one last week to updatepeople, but I don't want to just
keep making videos and be like,yeah, there's no more updates.
I'm just making a video to tellyou there's no updates, because
no one really knows right now.

(44:54):
Everything is delayed.
Google's behind on developingAndroid 15.
And obviously that meansSamsung is probably further
behind.
Plus, they're adding a wholebunch of new features to Android
15 on top.
I'm sorry to tell you, there'snot a lot to talk about here,
other than to say Google'spushing it back to October.
So that means we're probablygoing to be waiting some time

(45:14):
Now.
Of course Samsung has the sourcecode, so it's not like they
have to wait until Googlereleases it for the pixels.
But it probably at least meansthe beta won't start until
September sometime becauseGoogle's still tweaking some
things, obviously in the final15 source code.
So Samsung might want to alsodo some stuff in parallel before
they release the beta.
But, like we said, it should bea more stable beta.

(45:35):
It gonna be shorter, so maybein the end it won't be a big
deal.
Be a big deal for me because Ihave less time to cover the beta
features and, yeah, usuallywhen I the beta comes out, I
make like 30, 50, 30 to 50videos legitimately about all
the features, individualfeatures.
I just pray.
I'm just asking samsung if theylisten to this podcast, which
you know they.
Obviously they do.

(45:55):
They must, because this isSammy Guru and they know that
this is where they should cometo get insights about what their
customers think.
Don't release the beta If itdoesn't come until October.
Don't release it the weekend ofOctober 10th through the 14th,
because I'll be in Vegas and I'mreally not planning to make
content that weekend.
So let's try to release it likethe second week of September,

(46:19):
so I've got a full three or fourweeks before I go.
Try to take a real break forfour days while I go to Vegas
and see the Steelers game.
I know that usually doesn'thappen, but just one time.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, he's a simple man.
I just want one break a yearwhere I didn't have to worry
about something breaking.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Uh, and I figured we'd be safe.
Because October I figured thebeta would already be over.
But because they keep pushingit back, I get more and more
nervous.
Like, is it going to come outthat weekend I have to go.
That would be very unfortunate,but anyway, we'll get it
covered.
Before we get into the secondhalf of the show, as always,
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All right, guys, we are back andin the second half here today,
as usual, going to talk a littlebit about hardware before we

(48:08):
get into the app of the week andthe Q&A.
A couple of pieces of hardwarethat I want to talk about ever
so briefly.
First one is the Z Fold 6one-month review.
So I'm going to post my Z Fold6 one-month review.
I told you guys it was going tobe last week, but with all the
stuff I do, writing a fullreview for a phone is very
difficult.
My review is already 4,500words.

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I don't take writing a reviewlightly.
I haven't wrote one in a while,since I left XDA, and I also
wanted our first flagship reviewto be incredibly detailed,
because there's a lot of peoplewriting reviews out there and in
order for our reviews to standout, I didn't want it to be just

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kind of short.
Know, because it's a phone Imean, obviously with a watch,
with buds or something it can bea little shorter, but with the
phone.
You know we need camera samples.
You know a lot of testing, soI'll give you guys a little
sneak peek though here on thepodcast, because that's what you
come to the podcast for.
You get stuff that early sothis will be posted sometime
next week.
I'm finishing kind oforganizing my camera samples.
Um, you said a lot of thingsabout the Z Fold 6.

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When it first came out I wasvery critical of the camera
hardware because it's basicallythe same camera hardware as last
year and I kind of changed mymind a little bit in the course
of the review.
I don't think the camera iscompletely the same because the
software processing they diddoes do some stuff.

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But I also think that sometimesthe software overcompensates
and makes some photos look worsebecause the hardware is
outdated.
It could really benefit fromupdated sensors and, obviously
the Z Fold Special Edition,getting the 200 megapixel S24
Ultra camera.
That will certainly help a lot,I think, with that that sensor,

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with the processing they haveon here because remember, this
processing that they're using onthe Z Fold 6 is not yet
incorporated into the S24 Ultrabecause this is One UI 6.1.1
specifically generated with thislaunch.
So the S24 Ultra doesn't have6.1.1 yet, as we were talking
about.
So, camera-wise, I'll put acouple of samples up here.

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What you'll notice is, if youcompare it to the Pixel 9 Pro XL
and the S24 Ultra is you'll seethat it over-brightens a lot of
stuff, so you get less contrast.
The colors aren't as accurate.
Lot of stuff, so you get lesscontrast, the colors aren't as
accurate.
Um, and with the zoom, eventhough the s24 ultra struggles a

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little bit with, maybe, lowlight zoom, this one not only
struggles with low light, alsoin good lighting sometimes the
colors can be a little splotchyin the zoom.
So you know there's a couple ofthings with the camera.
I still I still think it's waybehind some of the other
flagship foldables out therefrom Xiaomi and other Chinese
companies.
So Samsung is still behind onthat front.

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But I really do have to givethem credit as a whole package.
And I said this from thebeginning, even though I
criticize the camera and I alsodon't like the fact that they
raised the $100 price, becausethey didn't really add $100
worth of value.
upgrades here the design of thisthough.
I mean I want a wider coverdisplay, but Samsung has really

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perfected, like the hingemechanism.
It's more durable than anyother foldable out there.
Like I have the OnePlus Open, Ihave the Xiaomi I just got that
one I have the Pixel, whateverthey called it nine two pro fold
xl, whatever that's coming nextweek but the the hinge
mechanism on the z fold six isjust like so solid, like they.

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They've perfected that.
Like you, this thing has asatisfying open and close and
you know, like you could foldthis million times, it's
probably going to be fine.
The durability and everythingon the frame.
Samsung has perfected that.
It needs to be wider, for sure,and I would certainly like the
crease to be lessened, but I dothink that part of the reason

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for the crease is because of thedurability of the frame, the
way they've constructed theframe.
I hope that with the Z FoldSpecial Edition, they are able
to decrease the crease becauseof that display technology that
we were talking about, theuneven, ultra-thin glass.
But the crease doesn't reallybother you when you start using

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it.
You forget about it eventually.
It just doesn't look good inphotos and obviously it would be
nice to decrease it.
Decrease the crease Decre todecrease it.
Decrease, decrease, decrease,decrease decrease decrease.
That's going to be one of thetaglines of my review.
But I mean, everything elseabout this phone is is pretty
awesome.
I mean, the software is thebest on any book style foldable.

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The speakers are fantastic onhere.
It's great to watch mediabecause obviously it's a much
bigger display than your your.
It's great to watch mediabecause obviously it's a much
bigger display than your yours-line phone, so it's great for
that.
Uh, really, the only qualm Ihave is the camera, and then
personal qualm is I want a widercover display.
I think a lot of people wantthat.
Um, I am a little concernedwith the z fold special edition

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because they're making itthinner and lighter, which we
all want yeah, and they're alsomaking it wider on the cover
display.
Is that going to make it lessdurable for the hinge?
Because the hinge is verydurable right now, like I said,
very solid and also, even if youdrop this like I haven't
dropped this one yet, knock onwood, hopefully I don't drop it,
but I did drop the z-fold fourand the z-fold three and neither

(53:24):
of them had any issues.
The main reason that I end upgetting damage on these when I
drop them is because I don't usea case on the foldables a lot,
because I just don't likefoldable cases.
We talked about this a coupleepisodes ago.
All that adhesive on the casesis annoying and I don't like it.
So if I drop it it's going toding it, but it never cracked
and the hinge kept working onboth of those phones.

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So Samsung has really perfectedthe durability of the folds, I
think, and so we'll see with theZ Fold Special Edition.
That's why I want to import one.
Are they going to sacrificesome durability in giving us all
this innovation that we want?
Are we going to get what wewanted?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
and then regret it.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Because sometimes you know you get what you wanted
and you're like maybe I didn'twant that.
You want it until you get whatyou wanted and you're like,
maybe I didn't want that, yeahyou, you want it until you get
it.
And then you're like maybesamsung knew best, because now
we're gonna have to baby itbecause it's not going to be as
durable.
But we'll see a lot of.
The chinese phones are thinnerand they still seem pretty
durable.
I don't think they feel assolid, though as uh as this guy.

(54:22):
So overall, I'll post mythoughts.
But.
But everything else about thephone is great.
Performance is great.
Audio is great.
The software I think Samsung hasmade some really
well-intentioned kind ofupgrades to the software.
Everything else I love aboutthis phone.
I did a lot of testing withdifferent audio for Bluetooth
codecs and stuff to kind of testhow it performs with different

(54:44):
pairs of headphones.
So if you guys are audio fansfans, make sure you check it out
.
Um, and I did quite a fewdifferent benchmark testing and
things like that on geekbench.
Not that those really matter inreal world use, but uh, and
then some also some real worldperformance tests so you can see
.
I would say, if you likefoldables.
As I said before, it's a.
It's a good phone and if you'recoming from a Fold 4 or earlier

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, you should go upgrade, maybe,maybe, wait and see what happens
with the special edition, butit's not a bad decision to
upgrade in my opinion.
But if you have a Fold 5, Iwouldn't upgrade to this.
There's not enough changes towarrant the big amount of money.
If you're coming from a slabphone, this is where it's tricky

(55:29):
Because, like, you really haveto think about and this is
advice for anybody moving to anyfoldable from a slab phone.
I would give this advice toTori or anybody else you have to
think about, like whatpercentage of the time are you
going to use this display?
Versus what percentage of thetime are you going to use this
display of the time are yougoing to use this display?
And basically, my advice is ifthe answer is you're going to

(55:50):
use this display about 30% ormore, then maybe it's a good
idea.
But if your answer is I'm so onthe go that I'd be using this
display like 80% of the time ormore then I would not upgrade to
a foldable because you're notgoing to feel the utility.
You're not going to feel likeyou have that innovative product
If you just leave it like thisall the time you're going to
feel like you have a downgradefrom your S24 Ultra or your S23

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Ultra because the screen'snarrow and so you're dealing
with the compromise of thenarrow screen all the time, plus
the camera's not as good, plusyou don't have an S Pen that's
embedded.
You have an S Pen but you haveto carry it around separately in
your pocket.
That's the other thing I don'tlike, but I wasn't going to make
that as a big con, becauseeverybody knows that.
But the S Pen not having a slot, it's easy to lose it.

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I've lost a couple of them thelast few years.
So that's my thoughts.
If you're coming from a slabphone, you really have to think
about, like, what percentage ofthe time am I going to be folded
or unfolded in terms of usingthe device?
And if you're not going to beunfolding it enough, just stick
with your slab phone.
But if you have a productivitytask in mind or you're a gamer
or you watch a lot of media.

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Like, if you consume a lot ofNetflix, youtube on the go, it's
a no-brainer Because it's muchbetter to play games on this and
it's much better to watch mediaon this because it's just a
bigger screen.
So if you're going to unfold itand you're going to be doing
stuff, then I think it's areally good decision to move
over.
What else?
Bowers Wilkins PI-8.

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So I, tori, just got a chanceto see these.
These are the Bowers WilkinsPI-8.
They're right here.
These headphones released thispast week and I got some to
compare them to various things,including the Bud 3 pro, so I
figured I'd talk about them fora second.
There they are, tori, I'll takea look at them yeah, so that's
the nice blue ones yeah, yeah.
So these headphones are some ofthe best on the market.

(57:38):
They're more expensive than thebuds 3 pro they're 400 bucks
but I figured I would talkbriefly a little bit about the
audio quality on these.
Versus the bud three pro, nowyou don't get the same
integration you get with yourgalaxy phone, because you know
it's perfectly set up to workwith bixby and all the voice
calls and everything like that,and you also have some special
software features that you get,like the concert hall effect and

(58:00):
things like that.
But this thing has an amazingequalizer on it.
The buds three pro can't reallycompete in the audio quality
area.
So I just want I wanted to makethis comparison.
I'll probably make a video too,because a lot of times people
ask me, you know, if I wantgreat audio quality, should I
get the Samsung Buds becausethey work so well with my phone?

(58:20):
And the fact of the matter isand I talked about this in my Z
Fold review as well Samsung andandroid support so many high
quality bluetooth codecs whichis what allows you to get high
quality audio, basically fromyour phone to a good pair of
headphones that if you reallycare about audio quality and you
don't mind spending extra money.
It's probably better to buysomething like this or the bang

(58:41):
and olufsen headphones, becausethese guys just make headphones,
they don't make 50.
Xamson makes phones, tvs, soundbars, refrigerators stoves,
washers, dryers, sinks they makeeverything including the
kitchen sink so you knowpowers and wilkins.
They only do one thing andthat's audio.

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They didn't do anything else.
They make speakers andheadphones, nothing else bang
and olufsen else.
They make speakers andheadphones, nothing else Bang,
olufsen.
They make nothing else Speakersand headphones.
They are an audio house.
So of course you would expect,like, if someone's making 50
things, they're all pretty good.
Samsung makes all their stuff,you know high quality.
But if someone's only makingone or two things, they're going

(59:23):
to do them a little bit better.
And also $150 more, $400 versus$250.
But I really am impressed withthese.
This is the best pair of buds Iown now.
I actually bought these myself.
This is not something I wasplanning to get for the channel.
I'll make content on it.
Usually what happens is I seesomething I want to buy and then
I'm like well you know, I couldbuy it and then I could find a

(59:45):
way to make some content.
Maybe we can make half themoney back.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
So then I don't feel so bad.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
I was like I can make a couple hundred off the
AdSense, maybe on YouTube, fromcomparing them to the Buds 3 Pro
.
So then I only spent $200.
It's like it's how I justify myreckless spending.
So I saw Flossie Carter make avideo on these on YouTube and he
does great headphone reviews.
If he does great headphonereviews If you guys like audio
he's got every pair of earbudson the entire planet.
I love watching his audio stuff.

(01:00:10):
I like his phone stuff too, butbecause I do so much phone
stuff myself, I tend to notwatch people's reviews before I
review stuff.
I talked about that before justbecause I don't want someone
else's opinion to then become myopinion just because I saw it
somewhere.
But his review of theseconvinced me to buy them.
He's talking about how loudthey are with YouTube music and

(01:00:31):
they are incredibly loud.
Like these things, you've gotto be careful with them honestly
if you buy these headphones,because they could bust your
eardrums probably on YouTubemusic YouTube music has like an
extra equalizer boost, separatefrom the headphones, and then
also with that high quality,screaming bluetooth codec.
And then, of course, you guysremember I talked about the app

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of the week we had a few weeksago, remember wavelet.
You can also tune these to beeven better inside wavelet.
So I was using the wavelet appwith these and they sound
amazing.
So if anybody's been thinkingabout these or if you've been
thinking about should I do, buds3 pro versus another pair of
high quality headphones, itreally depends on what matters
to you.
If you care about theconvenience, like with voice

(01:01:12):
assistant, with answering calls,with some of like the simulated
sound effects, but if you careabout like raw, balanced audio
quality, like really crisp,clear sound and like really good
bass, like really good lows butalso really clear mids highs.
So if you listen to differenttypes of music, then you're good
.
If you listen to just like onekind of music like if you listen

(01:01:33):
to like just hip-hop, forinstance, I listen to a lot of
that the Buds 3 Pro have adecent amount of bass.
These still have more, but theyhave a decent amount of bass
and you can tune that inside ofthe Galaxy Buds Manager to get
great audio.
These ones fit great as well.
So did the Buds 3 Pro.
If anybody's interested too,I'll take it out.
These are not stem styles, sothey won't look like an AirPods

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clone for you.
If you wanted to go back to theold Galaxy Buds style, these
are basically the same style asthe Buds 2 Pro.
If you've been longing for thatSamsung style but you didn't
want to upgrade to the stemdesign, there you go.
There you go, if you guys haveother questions about that, you
can hit me up.
I'll drop a link below if youwant to check it out.
As always, it's an affiliatelink.

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So if you want to support thepodcast, if you want to buy a
$400 pair of headphones, you canhelp us out.
We won't judge you and we willappreciate that quite a lot at
all.
Um, I think that's most of thehardware.
Uh, I was going to talk aboutthe xperia 1 6 but I don't have
it yet.
I am going to do a comparisonof that phone the pixel, the s24
ultra and the fold.

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I'm working on a full camerashootout of those.
That takes so long.
Some people can do these camerashootouts and like instantly
after they come out.
That's because those people aresingle.
They're like tori they don'thave any kids.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
So they can just go out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
They can just go out anytime they want and just take
a bunch of camera samples andthen organize them.
They've got all this time.
I have to do that during mywork day.
I can't do it.
It's hard to do on the weekendsbecause kids don't want to sit
still.
So the shots that I take of thekids, they're going to be like
blurry because they're runningaround, so they're not going to
be like let me get that perfectshot, Because you know, for a

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camera shootout, like if youhave four phones, you've got to
take the same photo four timesone with each phone.
So, like, my four-year-old isnot going to sit there and be
like hey, jonathan, sit there,keep the same pose, let me grab
this other phone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Keep the same pose.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
He'll gone like after I take the first shot or
halfway through the first shot,so you can't just be doing that
motion, and yeah.
So that's why a lot of myphotos you guys will see in the
z fold six review, they're notnecessarily in the perfect
scenarios, and that's how realpeople take their photos, though
.
So that's why, like, I don'tmind that, like, a lot of people
are buying, these are peoplewho have families.
They want to take photos oftheir kids or their pets, and so
those are not, you know, noteverything is going to be
sitting there for you like aperfect scenario to take your
photos.
So I'll move on to the app ofthe week.

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We got one hand operation plus,so we talked about it earlier
and so I wanted to go ahead andtalk about it more.
People don't know about thisapp, so this is mainly for
Samsung newcomers, which we dohave some people watch the
podcast every week who arebasically their first Samsung
phone, and if you know a lotabout Samsung, you probably know
about it.
But what One Hand OperationPlus does for you is it lets you

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put these handles on eitherside of your phone, and the
handles can be used to triggervarious actions.
So, like, if you tap on theleft handle, you can map three
actions to a short swipe andthree actions to a long swipe.
And, uh, there's a bunch ofdifferent stuff you can choose
from.
I always keep the short swipe.
I'll show you over there too,dory.

(01:04:34):
I always keep the short swipeset to the default because I use
the navigation gestures.
So if you change the shortswipe it's going to change like
what happens when you swipe justa single swipe, and that's not
good because that's the defaultback gesture if you use gestures
, so that'll mess up your.
So you don't want to changethose if you use the gestures.
If you use the three button navwhich I think tori said you

(01:04:54):
still use the three buttons atthe bottom then you could change
those and that's the benefit ofusing three button nav is you
have more customization withthis.
But I use the long swipe andthere's a couple of cool things
that I use.
I'll just point out the ones Iuse.
I use Quick Tools.
What Quick Tools does is when Iswipe long to the right, I get
all my quick toggles.
See it right there, the quicktoggles come up and so I don't

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have to swipe all the way downfrom the top of the phone to get
them.
That's super useful on the Fold, because this is such a big
phone, you don't want to alwayshave to go to the top.
Uh, if I do a long diagonal downswipe, I get all my recent
applications.
You can see them right there.
That way I don't have to dooops, I've got to move this mic
to the other side.

(01:05:36):
We're going to do that,probably, so I can easily do
this.
But I'm also working on theoverhead cam.
But yeah, if you do diagonaldown, you get your recent apps,
which is nice, and then if Ihave diagonal, you can see I get
my favorite apps.
So these are my apps that arekind of ones that I use the most
.
The other ones are the ones Iuse the most recently.
But there's a lot of stuff.

(01:05:56):
It's not just the stuff that Ihave If you look through the
list.
Well, one thing that's notthere anymore on this phone is
Smart Select.
We talked about that earlier.
There's a lot of stuff you youwon't find smart select in this
list, but, uh, flashlights,split screen view, quick pop-up
view.
I use that one sometimes too onthe other handle.
Basically, if I do a longdiagonal down swipe, it opens my

(01:06:17):
app in pop-up view so I canquickly multitask.
Uh, you can use the googleassistant app, bixby.
You can use, use swipe to do ascreenshot screen record.
Show or hide the nav bar,rotate right, rotate left, turn
on game booster, turn on colorinversion, start application.

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You can open an app directly,just like if I want to just
swipe and open Instagramdirectly.
When I do a swipe, you can getkeyboard shortcuts, task
switcher.
Uh, widgets, pop-up.
This is a really popular onetoo that I really do like.
Basically, you can have a bunchof widgets here and you can
make it so that you have a bunchof widgets.
When you swipe right, you canjust swipe through your widgets.

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Instead of having to putwidgets on your home screen, you
can just have them off to theside and then you have to swipe
right and then you see thewidgets and you can swipe
through them.
This is actually how I like touse widgets, because I don't
really like having widgets allover my home screen, because I
feel like it clutters up thenice look of my home screen.
Sometimes I either put them offto the home screen on the right
or I'll use the pop-up view todo that.

(01:07:23):
So what do you think, tori?
Will you try OneHand OperationPlus?
I know I don't think you'veused it before, but would you
give it a shot?

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah, I hope you don't, but I do have a question.
I really like the Edge panels.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
You use Edge panels.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I use it all the time .
I have all my hot or the onesthat I use all the time, like
that, yeah.
And then when I had my othersymptom phone, I like all my
contacts here, but I didn'treally feel the need to, but I
really like this.
Does that ever interfere?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
That's a good question.
So basically, if you look inOneHand Operation Plus, the
handle here does overlap withthe edge panel handle.
You can see those two rightthere.
But you can change where thisis.
So you see this right here.
You can move it down and youcan make the size smaller.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Okay, so what you?

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
can do is you can make the size smaller so that it
doesn't interfere with youredge panel there and you can
still utilize it.
So if you guys see that at thebottom of OneHhand Operation
Plus you can move it and you canalso move where the edge panel
handle is.
So you can move them both sothey don't overlap, because
Tori's right.
If you use the default, the waythey're set up by default, they

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will overlap and then you'llend up triggering you don't know
which one you're going totrigger?

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
It's like is it going to be the?

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
edge panel to be the edge panel or will it be the one
hand operation plus, uh, youknow feature that I have mapped
to that handle.
It it's like hit or miss, soyou have to make sure you don't
have those things overlap.
But you can change all that atthe bottom and also, not only
can you change the size and theposition, you can also change
the touch width so you see, likethe width of this, like handle,
you can bring this down.
So that way then, depending onwhere you swipe, if you don't

(01:09:05):
want it to trigger when youswipe further in, because
obviously some people don't likethat, because then if you're
swiping, like on a web page,left to right, it might
accidentally trigger.
So you could change the width ofthese two handles as well at
the bottom of the app.
So I highly recommend it.
If you haven't used it I meanwhether you're a new user or
you're a turning user you'venever given it a shot.
If you work it into your dailyworkflow, specifically if you

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have a phone like the Fold 6,fold 5, like one of the
book-style foldables, when thephone is open, I use it all the
time because you don't want tobe reaching up to the top to do
much of anything.
So quick launching, getting toan app, all that stuff, any
actions you use a lot, map it toOne hand, operation plus and
you can just keep like twohanding the phone Like you would
if you're playing games oryou're doing productivity.

(01:09:50):
It's really easy to use.
So, okay, we've arrived at oneof our favorite parts of the
show.
We got the Q and a.
You guys throw some cues, wethrow some A's.
Today, tori is going to goahead and read the question.
We have a question for thethird week in a row.
Read the question.
We have a question for thethird week in a row we've got a
superstar question from.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I forgot the guy's name.
You can read it yeah uh, glex,glexence, I, I think.
Uh, so here we got uh greatshow again, fellas.
Uh, here's a question for you.
Uh, what would you personallydo to market foldables and make
them more than a passingfascination for a traditional
slab style user?
I've noticed that, as of late,the Samsung efforts to market

(01:10:34):
the flip phones to women seem tofinally be bearing some fruit,
so I think that there's a chanceto make them more aggressive in
the marketing, because theladies do seem to really like
the form factor and just howpersonizable they are.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
So yes, it's a great question.
I think Tori and I talked about, maybe back on episode, like
three about how the flipdefinitely seems like Samsung
has always leaned more towardsthe women marketing and not so
much towards the men, but Ithink there's an opportunity in
both of the form factors.
Personally, I do think theyshould keep pushing the flip

(01:11:11):
more towards the female side,but I also do think they should
open up the flip more towardsmarket, some towards males, and
I think they did that yeah, alittle bit.
You know the ad if you've seenthe one on team.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah yeah, and if you've seen their, ad on tv.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
We saw the one they play at the movies, that one
where the guy's going aroundtrying to play in different
languages he's trying to likehang out with people it's like
can.
I can you kick it?
Yes, you can.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Can I kick it?
Yes, you can.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
That's a good ad and it shows that not only you know
one.
It shows that, obviously, thetranslation thing, which I like,
that feature, but it's that'snot a feature you're going to
use a ton because, unless youlike hanging out with people who
speak five different languagesregularly, that's not a common
occurrence for most people, um,but it does show that, like,

(01:11:56):
it's something useful for men aswell as women, because the
camera angles you can achieve,the way you can do like tent
mode, the way you can prop it upas a tripod, um, like I think
they were doing.
Was he doing skateboarding orsomething?
in that, yeah, skateboarding,basketball, yeah, so you could
take like photos of your variouslike sports, like if you're
skateboarding, you could set itup and get some photo or video

(01:12:17):
of your skateboarding tricks.
That reminds me of that moviewe saw, Didi, yeah yeah, yeah,
the guy was skateboarding yeah.
So you could definitely do that.
So that shows like a prettycool uh thing.
But I also think that in orderfor it to truly appeal more to a
wider audience, they need tocontinue like evolving the use

(01:12:38):
cases, um, and also maybe forwomen, try to integrate it more
with different like fashion,like try to partner with some
different fashion houses, yeahand be like look, because you
know apple does this and we.
This is going back to what wewere talking about earlier.
Not, I don't try to tie thesethings together, they just come
together.
We're talking about applehaving a lot more accessory
availability, like they partnerwith, like kate spade and like

(01:13:01):
all these, like female they dovery popular like target like
coach, yeah, um and so like.
If you want like a case forCoach for your iPhone, you could
get it, but not for Samsung.
Cades Bay, you could get it,but not for Samsung.
If they would like partner forflip cases on all of these
various fashion houses, I thinkthat would be incredibly helpful
.
I mean, they'll get it in thebag.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Yeah, because the women love.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Women love like customizing their case to match
their purse or their otheraccessories, so I think that's a
place where they'd be like OK,not only does this thing look
really cute, because it's like acompact, like a makeup compact
that fits in my purse, it's niceand thin, I can fit it into my
back pocket because I don't haveany front pockets, because no
one will give me any frontpockets here.

(01:13:43):
But I can also match it with myaccessories, like that'll throw
it over the top, but I can alsomatch it with my accessories,
like that'll throw it over thetop.
I think for men they need tocontinue to evolve the photo
capability because I think a lotof male consumers it's kind of
weird because women take a lotmore selfies, so they care more
about the selfie camera, but menthey care about the rear camera
, because we're taking photos ofobjects, like of your car or

(01:14:06):
sports that you're playing oryour kids, because usually if
you're the guy, like in my case,you're charged with taking the
videos, and every birthday orholiday I'm the one I mean, of
course, obviously, because I dosmartphones for a living, but
I'm charged with you've got tomake sure you get the right
photos or the videos, or you'rein trouble Because the doing,
like administering the gifts ordoing whatever administering the

(01:14:28):
party you're responsible for,like capturing the moments.
So maybe that's why, if theycontinue to evolve the cameras,
I think that would be a bigopportunity for men.
What do you think about interms of the flip anyway, tori?
What could they do to market itmore to women or men?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
yeah, like you know, because uh, just like how we
kind of talked about before,like I'm, I'm even seeing, I've
saw, even at the high school,three female students who do
have the Samsung flip.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Cause you were interested in the flip too,
cause you're trying out theMotorola razor flip, so
obviously it's not just a women?

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Yeah, no, I think it's just because, like you're
starting to see, now it'sstarting to be like innovative,
like not to say that slap phoneshave like ran their course, but
at some point, like you know,you need to kind of push the
innovation, and it's like one isnostalgic and two, it is really
innovative like no one.
No one would have ever reallythought, at least like the

(01:15:24):
average consumer, that I'd beable to fold my touchscreen
phone, and so each year ismaking it more and more possible
and seeing that, oh wow, we canhave a really great quality
phone that's foldable.
And so I think they justeverything that you just said.

(01:15:44):
Women want customizability.
I just everything that you justsaid.
Women want customizability.
So, like they're alreadyattracted to the folding part,
but you also need to capturethem and having customization,
like so maybe even having likemore colors, because I saw, like
when Apple did that I think itwas the iPhone 5C when they had
like all those marketed and allthe different colors, like the

(01:16:06):
ladies ate that up yeah, havinglike a true pink.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
I mean they have some that are like lighter but
having a hotter pink might benot a bad idea for the flip.
I also think reducing thatcrease in the middle of the flip
will be go a long way yeah,into getting to more consumers.
so mean it's not bad right now,obviously, but it is not ideal,

(01:16:30):
it's not where it necessarilycould be.
So I think if they could reducethe crease in the middle it
would be nice.
The new Motorola Razr.
I saw Flossie Carter actuallypost his video review of the new
Razr phone last night, and thatparticular phone looks pretty
interesting too.
I don't know if I'll get it,but it seems like the crease on
that one is even more reducedBecause the one I gave you from

(01:16:53):
last year is not that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Yeah, no, the crease on that one Once the phone is
open and you're looking at itfor a bit.
Yeah, I think Motorola hasreduced it a little more than
Samsung.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
So if Samsung could do that, that would be great In.
So if Samsung could do that,that'd be great In terms of the
foldable, like the book stylefold, like the Z Fold.
I think to keep marketing thosethey're going to have to do a
couple things.
One, they need to get it towhere it's flagship quality,
like the LSS line, whichbasically it looks like the Z
Fold Special Edition is going todo that for them.
But they also need to bring theprice down.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Those two things are in conflict right now.
Those two things are inconflict.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Right, because it's like to make it more like the s
line.
That's going to raise the costbecause they've got to increase,
like a lot of the quality ofthe components.
But then if that price goes up,less people are going to be
able to buy it because justbecause of their purchasing
power and people don't havethree thousand dollars on a, a
phone or $2,500, they're goingto need to get it to S-line
quality and the price needs tocome down Now, maybe not all the

(01:17:51):
way to the $1,300 of the S-line, because it is a foldable.
People could see the value.
It'd be like $1,500.
If it got up to S-line flagshipquality with a camera, it had
the S-pin embedded, it had thetitanium backplate.
It's thinner and lighter, witha bigger cover display, like
we're talking about, and it was1500 instead of 2500, I think a
lot of people would buy those ohyeah, I think you sell those

(01:18:13):
like you would get a lot ofapple users being like maybe
maybe we should see what's goingon under there and go buy that,
because that that would be veryappealing.
I mean, that would give peopleeverything they want.
The price would not be so muchmore than a slab phone that you
couldn't justify it becauseyou'd be like, oh well, it's
only 200 more than buying an s24ultra but, I get foldability, I
get a bigger screen when I wantit.

(01:18:33):
Uh, it's almost as thin andlight.
See the same camera.
It'd be not as many compromises.
So those are my thoughts.
Didn't he have one more?

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
question yeah, he did , he did all right.
Second question do you think anfe line of foldables priced
similarly to the S series wouldsell?

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
well, I do, but I think it would have to be kind
of like Tori mentioned with theiPhone 5C, where it's like it's
specifically marketed to peoplewho want a phone that looks cool
, but they don't care too muchabout the specs.
Yeah, I think the key would beyeah I think the key would be
like they need to give it like agreat selfie camera, because I

(01:19:13):
think that would really appealto the women oh yeah, you know
what I mean.
It would like if you if you gavethem like a flip 6se that was
priced at like 750 and you youtook out the great primary
sensor on the back camera but,you made the camera on the
inside a little better and maybeit's not made of as crazy

(01:19:35):
materials.
Maybe the display is a littlebit not as good.
I think you could sell a ton ofthose.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Yeah, you would.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
They want that front, yeah, the flip honestly would
do better as an se than the foldse.
Um, people talk about, like,making a lower spec version of
this.
People who are buying this wantthe top, top specs, like I mean
, at least their currentdemographic is not going to buy
a cheapened version of thisphone for the most part.
Now could you get new peoplemaybe, but again I think it

(01:20:07):
would be difficult for the Foldbecause most people who are
upgrading to this already havethe ultraline flagship or they
already have the maxed outiPhone 15 Pro Max.
They're not the people buyingthe cheap phones.
And so if you've released aFold 6 SE and say it's $500
cheaper, well, that's still$1,400.
And if you've increased thespecs, that's the exact opposite

(01:20:31):
of what I just said before.
If you increase the specs andlower the price, it's going to
sell like crazy.
But if you decrease the specsand lower the price, I'm not so
convinced because people who arebuying this, they're people who
are usually big time techenthusiasts, at least for now,
until you give them like a moremainstream use for this, and
that would mean it needs to beit.
Really.
This one is very difficultbecause it's not as thin as a

(01:20:52):
regular slab.
The Z Fold Special Edition.
If that were to come out withmaybe slightly lower specs but
still stayed as thin and light,then maybe it would sell.
But I think Z Flip 6 SE put agreat selfie camera on that.
Maybe decrease the sensors onthe back.
Maybe save some money here andthere on some other pieces.
Maybe maybe lower processor.

(01:21:15):
We don't need the Snapdragon 8Gen 3.
Put a mid-range Snapdragonprocessor in there Right there.
That's a winner.
Samsung, contact me.
It's marketing at sammygurucom.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Get in touch with us we will do some business.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Contact me, it's marketing at sammygurucom.
Get in touch with us, we willdo some business, no problem.
So that is the phone that theyshould release because they
could get like all of the likecollege girls who want that cute
phone but they don't want totake as big of a cost risk
necessarily jumping from theirApple phone.
Lost risk necessarily jumpingfrom their Apple phone.

(01:21:47):
You know, if they sold that andthen they gave like basically
they could sell it and givebasically $750 trade in so it
costs nothing.
If you're trading like aniPhone 15 Pro, they get so many
girls to trade their phone infor that they really would.
They could just market it, putsome good ads together, because
if you're like, you can justgive me your iPhone 15 Pro, get
this thing.
A lot of people would say yeah.
So I think that's the SE modelthat I'd really like to see.

(01:22:11):
The only other question that Isaw on Twitter this week there
was one about the Galaxy XR, butwe already answered that.
Someone was asking about what Ithought the specs needed to be
in order to compete with theVision Pro.
We did that earlier.
The other question was someonehad asked do we think we're
going to get some guests soon?
So I figured I would addressthat.
Yes, I've talked to variouspeople.

(01:22:33):
The hard part is Tori and I areboth busy and then we have to
coordinate with another person'sschedule.
So I have a list of guests thatI've reached out to that I'm
kind of waiting to hear back ontheir schedule.
And then I've got to kind ofget their schedule and hand it
to Tori and say is this going towork?
Because a lot of people are notgoing to be able to necessarily
do it on 4 pm on a Fridaybecause that's not a great time

(01:22:54):
for most people it happens to bea good time for me and Tori,
but for a lot of people that'snot really.
That's like a busy time for alot of people.
So we might have to like moveit to like a Saturday or
something to do a guest show.
But we will start having guestsprobably after a year of doing
this and we're reallycomfortable.
We'll try to have guests likeevery other week at least.
But, I'm really aiming for ourfirst show that's live stream in

(01:23:18):
a few weeks to have our firstguest, so we'll see if we can do
that.
There's a couple differentpeople that you guys said you
wanted to see, and I reached outto some of them.
I put a poll on X and peopletold me who they'd like to see
on the show, and those are someguys that I also would love to
see on the show, and so Ireached out, so we'll see.
We'll leave it a surprise as towho the first guest will be,

(01:23:39):
but I think it'll be some peoplethat people are interested in.
People in the tech community,people on, you know think,
youtubers, samsung journalists,people like that, some of the
influencers on X who do stufflike.
It'd be really cool if we getIce Universe on the show, but I
don't think he's.
I don't think he's ever done theinterview.
We should work on that.
I should reach out to him andjust be like, hey, we need Ice
Universe on the show bring thecat on the Sammy Guru show show,

(01:24:03):
I'll reach out.
He'll probably never respond tome, but I don't know, he doesn't
seem to do a lot of like, justposts, leaks and goes about his
business.
Maybe we can get that done.
Anyway, that's pretty much itthat I had this week, tori, what
about you?
Pretty good, yeah, we'll beback, assuming we don't burn
alive in the Phoenix heat.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
But otherwise we're about to get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
That was 99.
99, that's not bad.
It's going to be cool when wego outside.
Beautiful.
I'm so cold I probably need asweater when we leave the office
.
Anyway, we're going to get outof here.
I'm going to go enjoy somecollege football.
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