We're Back! Z Fold 7 Two Week Review, S25 Ultra 6 Month Revisit + S26 Ultra Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back everybody.
This is episode number.
I actually have no idea whatepisode is this.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I have no idea either .
Let's go to the podcast page onthe website, because I don't
even remember.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
This is episode number 37?
.
Is that right?
It can't be right.
Must be somewhere in the 30s.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Or is it?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
37?
.
Let's see Me and Tori don'teven know's 20, it's 26 actually
, wow I thought we did more thanthat yeah, yeah, anyway we're
back um after a very long breakuh, I just I just got a little
tired from doing all the stuffwe do at sammy guru, and so we
took a little podcast break.
Um, for those of you who've beenlistening to the audio only

(00:42):
podcast, we switched over tolike a youtube live podcast for
a while yeah and uh, that wasfun, but the problem was we
always have millions of peopleasking tutorial questions, and
so we could never finishdiscussing a specific topic so I
wanted to switch back to thepre-recorded podcast just for
that reason, uh.

(01:02):
And then every month we'regoing to try to host a youtube
live where we answer somequestions.
What do you think about the newformat, tori?
You like it?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
oh yeah, uh, you talking about the one where we
were doing the live, or?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
no, this format.
Now going back to this oh,you're doing the live q a once a
month.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Oh yeah, no, um.
I think this is going to belike a way better because, like
we can actually get to theissues that the people are
coming to listen to.
You know, when we're doing theyoutube it was a bunch of the
same questions just about everythree minutes and it's not that
we don't like answering people'squestions.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's just when people listen to a podcast, they want
to like put the podcast on intheir car and be able to listen
to like a journey of varioustopics.
Yeah, instead with the youtubelive, if I would, when I'd
upload the audio file, you knowevery five minutes, I'll be like
when is that One UI 8 updatecoming for the?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
S23?
And we had to answer thatalready four times.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So the people who are listening to the pre-recorded
you know the reported podcastlater on, like you know their
podcatcher, they're like well, Idon't want to listen to this
because I'm just listening tothese guys answer questions
about the same software updatesover and over again.
So I think this is much betterfor the overall podcast format,
and then we still get tointeract with you guys once a
week and once a month on aYouTube live, and we'll figure
out when we're going to schedulethat.

(02:15):
Anyway, welcome back, tori.
I'm really happy to be backdoing this format.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, same too.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
You are just about to be starting your school year
teaching, so how?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
are you feeling my ninth year man?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Ninth year Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's really been that long, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's so long.
It seems like it was onlyyesterday that Tori was in my
stats class at the university,but it's been a long time.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Are you?
prepared for going back tomorrow.
I think I am overall, obviouslythe first week always like a
lot of information and newsystems and stuff.
But they did a pretty good jobof giving us enough time to work
in our classrooms and just kindof like work with our team to
kind of feel prepared.

(02:57):
But you know, after a while,like it's kind of like riding a
bike, like you know, I don't getlike the first day jitters like
I used to anymore, you know, Ijust kind of like all right, you
know, let's bag it and tag it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, After teaching for the university, for like
what I mean I, between my gradschool and my tenured time there
, I did like 13 years at theuniversity.
Eventually, it's just like youknow it's a job.
Yeah, there's no jitters.
You get a little nervousspeaking in public, but I was
like this is what I do for aliving.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I know, yeah, I used to do like the first year or two
In my mind I'd be like OK, likehow do I like introduce myself,
you know like and stuff likethat.
But now it's just like we justdo it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
No problem, just boom .
No problems, just boom, let'sbag it, and tag it as we say
yeah, um, tori and I definitelyhad.
Tori was here working at thesammy guru offices over the
summer.
Yeah so he's been spending alot more time uh here in the
office with me.
We saw a lot of movies.
We saw a drastic world.
We saw fantastic four.
What was your favorite movie wesaw over the summer?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
tori you know, okay, I'll probably have to.
Actually, I'll give you two.
There's two top ones.
I'd probably have to saySuperman and Fantastic Four.
I just really thought they werevery solid movies.
But if I had to pick betweenthose two I'd probably have to
say the Fantastic Four.
I just thought they reallyadded that summer movie charm.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, I thought both of the superhero movies were
good too.
Obviously I like the Jurassicmovie.
That's cause, Jonathan.
So, I know all the names ofevery dinosaur now so it was fun
to watch it just because I havea lot of background now on you
know all those differentdinosaurs.
But, uh, I really enjoyed bothsuper mirrors.
I was very surprised with theSuperman movie, cause DC has
never really made a movie that Ireally thought was wow, you

(04:44):
know like a wow factor like theMCU, and I thought Mr Terrific
was amazing.
Very amazing character, Bestcharacter hands down and just
all the characters had reallygood character arcs in Superman.
So yeah, I enjoyed both of them.
And I was very surprised withFantastic Four.
You know how good Galactuslooked on screen Because it's so
hard to show such a colossalcharacter.

(05:06):
It's so huge and they did agood job of portraying it, so
I'm excited for this uh, nextphase of the MCU.
It should be a fun like threeyears of of movies to to enjoy,
especially with um Robert DowneyJr Coming back.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, and you know they said that he was actually.
Yeah, he was, that's what theysaid he was actually the guy
there.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, and it should be very interesting to see how
they play with the fact that hewas Iron man on the other Earth
and if they do anything withthat, it should be a lot of fun.
We just finished up the mysterybox shipping.
Tori's mainly been helping withthat since he's been here.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I was putting those boxes, man, I was going through
boxes.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Basically all of your cleaning kits to those of you
who got a?
Box.
Tori made your cleaning kit.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I did.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
He made 700-and-something cleaning kits
while he was here in the office.
He's assembled a bunch of boxes, hundreds and hundreds of those
, and then helped us withgetting the last touches.
We just shipped out the lastfew boxes yesterday, today, the
last few boxes yesterday Today.
We're recording this on thethird.
So we pretty much hit ourtarget.
There's a few people who hadmissing address info, which

(06:09):
always happens.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
And so those were shipped a few days late.
But we pretty much hit ourtarget on the mystery boxes,
which is good and, as you guysprobably expect, because you've
seen Samsung sales numbers andthey've told you that the Z Fold
7 and Z Flip 7 are the bestselling foldables ever.
They released those a coupledays ago.
We published it at Sammy Guru50% increase year over year in
the Z Fold 7 over the Z Fold 6.

(06:31):
We actually had way more thanthat on the mystery box side.
We sold like four or five timesmore mystery boxes this year
than we did last year.
It's like a 400% increase forus.
People love these phones,they're very popular.
400% increase for us.
People love these phones,they're very popular.
We almost got as close.
We almost got close to therevenue goal that we set for the
S launch, which is very hard todo.

(06:52):
The foldables obviously usuallymuch fewer people buy the
foldables versus the S launch,so we usually don't get anywhere
near doing the revenue that wewould do for the S launch, but
we did this time.
I was impressed.
I'm also very impressed withthe phones.
I'm going to talk about the ZFold 7 in today's video Video.
I'm so used to saying video.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's YouTube.
I haven't been doing podcastsin a while.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
In today's show, yes, and then probably next week I
might talk about the Flip andthe Watch, just so I don't have
to give them all their just due,because they're all very good
devices and I have a lot to sayabout the fold.
But I thought today, sincewe're back, I'm not going to go
into every.
Obviously, if I tried to covereverything that happened while
we were gone, we would be herewe're recording this.
On sunday we'd be here untillike friday because a lot of

(07:36):
stuff has happened in the likefour or five months that we've
been off, yeah, since our lastyoutube show, which I think was
back in like early march.
So it's been like four or fivemonths.
But I figured we would go oversome really big arcs and I
thought, well, it'd be fun, eventhough the foldables and I'll
talk about it later, since Toriand I both have an S25 Ultra
it's now six months since theS25 Ultra released in stores as

(07:58):
of today, like that was.
The official launch was thebeginning of February, so I
figured we'd do like a six monthre-review, like retrospective,
of the S25 Ultra and just getour thoughts about that, because
that has been my daily driverfor the last six months and a
lot of people have been askingme am I going to switch to the Z
Fold 7?
I'll address that later, butlet's talk about the S25 Ultra

(08:20):
itself and also then previewwhat's coming next January with
the S26, because I know that's abig thing on a lot of people's
minds.
So, torrey, I'll ask you howhave your six months been with
the S25 Ultra?
What do you think about thephone overall?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Oh yeah, and actually before we get into that, I do
have to give a quick shout outto Samsung on their
advertisements.
You know we talked a lot aboutthis back when we were doing the
podcast, very consistently thatthey never really had
advertisements.
But for this full launch, Imean, I've seen it on social

(08:54):
media I every movie I've been tothere's been it's before all
the movies now yep, yep.
Like you know, life unfolds withgalaxy yeah, I don't understand
literally every single movieI've been to there's been a
commercial there.
They want you to know that yourlife can unfold with Galaxy.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh yeah, and actually along that lines and I'll talk
about it later when I talk aboutmy Fold 7 thoughts, I've seen a
lot of people around theinternet, on Reddit and other
forums, where Apple users saythat they're going to try out
Samsung for the first timebecause of the flip in the fold,
yeah, I've seen a lot of ladiessaying they're going to try the

(09:29):
Flip 7 as a result of this newfull-screen cover display.
So Samsung is making a marketingpush.
For sure, they're pushing it,but, as we said, the foldables
aren't the only thing thatSamsung has done well this year.
The S25 lineup is also amassive hit.
Um, samsung released theirquarter two earnings as well,

(09:51):
and they had massive growth inthe mobile division and, of
course, the foldables hadn'tcome out yet.
So all of that growth is mainlyfueled by one thing, and that
is the galaxy s25 lineup.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
So, tori, what are your thoughts on the?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
s25 ultra.
Let's talk first.
Let's let's talk about questionthat a lot of people always
have about every flagship, andthat's the camera, because the
camera seems like the one thingthat people are unsure of with
samsung these days and the s25ultra.
Some people have somecomplaints about the camera, but
for you, as someone who is anaverage user, you're on the

(10:22):
three-year upgrade cycle yeahs22 ultra, s25 ultra.
What are your thoughts on theprimary camera, the zoom camera
and that ultra wide?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
uh, honestly, uh, so far, like you know, in thinking
back to when I had my s22 ultra,uh, the camera has been very
solid.
For me it gives really goodpics.
Um, you know, like also alsobeing a teacher, like I have to,
like you know, take pics andkind of, you know, put together
like newsletters or like aboutme's and stuff like that.

(10:53):
You know that I really like thepictures that I'm getting.
When I use them I've literallyno complaints.
It's probably the best camerathat I've had, you know.
But coming from the s22 ultrato the s25 ultra, but I I always
, I always know the camera andthe battery is always the

(11:13):
biggest debate or the biggestthing that I would say.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Um, so do you notice a note?
Do you think you notice anoticeable improvement from your
S22 Ultra?
Oh yeah, In the camera quality?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In all the camera qualities ofthe S22 going to the S25, I feel
like there's been a big up toit.
I really like every singlepicture I've gotten.
Even when I have to use theflash, it's been good.
And I just found out there'slike a flash for the front
camera as well, and so I reallyenjoy the camera.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Do you use?
Because I always am curious.
Obviously all these companies,including Samsung, are putting
these.
You know, we got a bunch ofcameras now on the Ultra.
And the iPhone this time isgoing to put a bigger zoom lens.
Do you use your zoom lens veryoften?
Do you find yourself using thezoom capability?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Uh, yeah, like you know, if I'm like far away or
something and I'll like zoom inor out, like just to try to get
that good picture, uh, I do findmyself using it quite a lot,
mostly like a, maybe likesporting events or uh, if I'm
trying to like see a sign andI'm, like you know, far away, uh
and away, uh and and the thequality is so good, because
sometimes I remember on my s22,um, if I zoomed in too much

(12:29):
sometimes it'd be kind of grainyyeah yeah, um, the picture I
would get and a little bitblurry, uh, so so far it's been
been pretty good for the s25when you use the zoom.
You saw the sign yes, opened upyour eyes.
Yeah, you saw the sign I did umwhat about the ultra wide?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
do you use the ultra wide at all?
Because I feel like the ultrawide.
Which samsung actually madethis ultra wide better on this
camera.
I feel like a lot of averageusers don't use it.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I feel like they use the zoom.
I really don't use the ultrawide.
Is this?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
little 0.6 deal right and samsung actually improved
that on the s25 ultra and it isbetter, but I feel like a lot of
users don't utilize that thatmuch.
I honestly forget about theUltra Wide, the only time, I
feel like I really use the UltraWide, or in any sense.
A lot of average users use this.
When you have this one, you canzoom out a little on the selfie

(13:18):
because you might want to getanother person in the shot with
you, but that's not the mainUltra wide on the back, that's
just kind of expanding the fieldof view on the front camera.
Yep, um, but yeah, I don't usethe ultra wide that much either,
which is, I I think, the casefor a lot of of consumers.
Samsung really kind of focusedon that as the big camera

(13:40):
upgrade in the last one, butalso I I feel like I'm with you
in a lot of ways.
The main camera on the s25ultra is still good enough.
I I do think, though, thatwe're due for finally getting a
hardware upgrade, becausethey've went four, three, four
years without changing.
They've changed a lot of thecomputational software in the
background and ai processing andall that.

(14:00):
Of course, you know ai's, it'sai, ai, ai, ai, you AI.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
You got to have the AI.
You can't go nowhere withoutseeing it.
You can't stop AI.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
You know even Google is stealing everyone's traffic
with AI summaries.
Now you know we've got AI inour life everywhere.
But yeah, I mean I like thequality.
I do find that sometimes when Itake photos in low light,
sometimes it can perform not asgood as I'd like.
I'd really like that primarysensor to be upgraded a little
bit, and some of the leakssuggest we might see that on the

(14:32):
S26 Ultra, which I think wouldbe nice.
I would like to see them bringback a longer true optical zoom,
because you said use the zoomzoom.
I think a lot more averageconsumers probably use the zoom
over the ultra wide and so it'dbe nice if they upgraded that.
They took.
They used to have 10x opticalzoom and a lot of average

(14:54):
consumers won't notice becauseif you look in here you can
still do 10 times zoom, right,like there's a toggle yeah but
that's not optical zoom anymoreit's digital zoom.
So they're like processing.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's just doing it by like upscaling and processing
it yeah, I can tell, like whenyou press the 10, yeah, when you
press the 10 it's not nearly asgood, as you know, the quality
that we used to have with thetrue optical.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
They say it is, but I find it to still be less.
Apple is rumored to do 8xoptical zoom, which still
wouldn't be as good as the 10 weused to have, but I would like
to see Samsung bring at least 8Xoptical zoom with the S26.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Ultra.
I mean they should be able tobecause they're Samsung.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, I think the only concern, I think, is that
and I think a lot of people havethis concern we talk.
Unfortunately, we weren'treally doing the podcast
regularly when it came out.
But the S25 Edge their push isto make everything thinner now.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Everything has to be thinner, but that also leaves
less room for the camera sensorsto go, and if you want quality
cameras, you've got to havebigger.
The housing is going to belarger, right yeah?
So you end up with these bigcamera humps on this tiny, thin
body and it's like well, theargument is it really still thin
Because you've got a thin bodybut you've got a massive camera

(16:10):
hump?
And so when you sit it down,just like the Fold 7, you can
hear it if I do this.
The Fold 7 wobbles if you tryto type on it while it's on a
table, because it itself issuper thin for foldable.
But then it's got a sizablecamera on the back the s25 edge
is even worse because it's eventhinner, because it's not
actually a foldable um.

(16:31):
It's thinner on its actualprofile and then you've got that
massive camera hump on the back.
So I don't know.
I mean, we've heard thatthere's going to be some changes
when it comes to the s26 ultraand we'll go through those in
just a second um.
I have a couple of articlespulled up from the website here
that will take a look at some ofthe leaks, but from what I'd
like to see is I'd like to seethat improved on the camera side

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.
Let's talk about battery life.
How has your battery life beenon the S25 Ultra in the six
months you've had it?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh yeah, I feel like you know like in the beginning,
going from let's see, I wouldprobably take off the charger,
probably around like 6 am Now Iprobably get back home around
like 9 pm and this is like me,not charging at all Like I would
still have about.
I'll say maybe about like 30%.

(17:21):
You know charge and I know I'vebeen out of work for you know a
few months since, you know uh,you know not having my long
commute days over the summer, um, but I'll, and you use the
wireless android auto, just likeI do right, yes, I do, which is
a battery killer for sureit is a battery killer.
Um, so like lately, you know,by the time I, I, I home, it's

(17:42):
about 20, 28, 27 percent batterythat I have left and then, you
know, I put on a charger so Istill get a full day out without
needing to recharge.
And if I know I'm going to beout even later, I just kind of
pack my charger with me.
But so far I've been prettygood with the battery life.

(18:02):
But so far I've been prettygood with the battery life.
But I do see a differencedepending on if I have very long
commutes, because yeah, thatAndroid Auto really does just
zap that and obviously inPhoenix we have very long
commutes.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, it's a lot of traffic here.
People don't really understandhow large Phoenix is in terms of
the mass of it.
I mean by population it's likethe fourth or fifth largest city
, but by mass, the largest cityin all the us by quite a large
margin.
Um, and so you know, eventhough la traffic might be a
little worse because it's alittle more dense, the more

(18:37):
people phoenix, depending onwhere you live.
You know, your house could be35 miles from where you work.
So that means that in additionto the density of traffic, you
also have to go a long distance.
So you could have an hour hourand a half commute, whatever,
depending on the time you leaveyour house.
But also, I always like tomention when I talk about my
battery life.
I use wireless android auto 2.

(18:57):
It's a massive battery drainand you got the watch.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, and so you know my watch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
And so you know my commute well previously.
We just moved, my commute willbe much shorter, but previously
my commute was about 35 minutes,both you know each way.
So about an hour and 10 minutesa day on wireless Android Auto.
That's probably draining like20% to 25% of my battery.
So you know, it's not fair forme to say well, the battery life
is good or bad based on thosedays.
The days where I don't use it,when wireless android auto, like

(19:25):
on the weekends, the batterylife is pretty solid.
So I don't like to say anythingterribly bad about the battery
I'm sure this has been prettygood.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, even like on the weekends, like I'm really
good.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, even on the yeah, on the days where I don't
use a lot of wireless androidauto, I say I probably get six
hours, six and a half hourscreen on time.
Um, when I use the wirelessandroid auto it's probably more
like four, four and a half, butagain, like a quarter of my
battery is taken up by thatwireless android auto time,
especially in the summer becausephoenix super hot and that
makes the battery worse becausethe thermals are bad.
You know, obviously the hotterthe phone runs, the worse the

(19:58):
battery.
Wireless android auto alsomakes the phone hotter because
it's also doing all thatcomputation.
It's doing all that AndroidAuto computation on your device,
on your S25 Ultra.
So you've got the Phoenix Heatyeah.
If you have your phone sittingon like your seat, or in your
dash or whatever, if you don'thave a place to cover it.
Plus, you've got the wirelessAndroid Auto heat.
That's heating it up.
That's all zapping battery.

(20:19):
So I would say my battery lifehas been good.
I have no complaints.
Obviously, always biggerbattery would be good.
Yeah, the one thing that I dowant and again we're going to
get to the s26 ultra leaks.
In a minute I'll tell you someof them and you can tell me what
excites you about them.
Just kind of going through themain points now we can address
them.
One thing I would like to seefaster charging.
Samsung has not given us fastercharging for years and years

(20:41):
they've been.
They're now the slowest androidmanufacturer in the industry.
45 watts max charging, yeah,which is seems fast sometimes,
but if you really need to chargeup it doesn't seem that fast
and a lot of manufacturers, youknow, have 100 watt charging now
so 45 watts is, you know, likeat least bump it up a little bit
, so we'll talk about that in asecond.

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With the s26 ultra, they theyare changing some of these
things that we we would likeabout that in a second.
With the S26 Ultra, they arechanging some of these things
that we would like to see, sothat's good.
The leaks suggest that some ofthese things are going to get
changed.
What about the overallexperience in terms of with One
UI 7?
Because obviously, when wefirst started this podcast,
previewing One UI 7 was all therage we spent months and months

(21:23):
talking about it.
Everyone finally, you know, gotit.
Technically, the version thatlaunched on the S25 Ultra was
the stable version, but it wasreally a beta version that
Samsung disguised.
They put it in a Halloweencostume and rolled it out there
and said surprise.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm stable, even though I'm not.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I tried to put a big stable sticker on it and no one
believed it.
But now that we've got a coupleof updates and we really do
have one UI seven stable one UIeight is actually running on the
fold seven, which is alsostable and which is disguised.
It's a beta that was disguisedas stable We'll get to that

(22:01):
later, but what do you think sofar about One UI 7?
Now that we really do have astable build, they've made some
improvements.
What do you like about One UI 7?
Do you find yourself using theNow bar much to control music
and stuff, or do you use the Nowbrief to get your updates?
Do you use any of this stuffthat was brought to One UI 7?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
So I would say at first I was very excited about
the now brief.
It's still, to me, not veryuseful.
Uh, you know I I was reallytrying to give it a try
initially in the beginning tokind of like check like my
energy score and my sleep score,um and and of like you know
news and stuff, but like it justreally only gives me my energy
score and my sleep score, which,yeah, it's nice to kind of have
like the instant access to seeit.

(22:50):
But I can also see a lot ofstuff on my watch and get a lot
more you know information fromthere about stuff.
So I don't really find myselfusing the Now Brief as much as I
thought I would.
But the Now Bar I actually usea lot and I actually find I
would say every other week or soI find something new that I

(23:12):
didn't really know.
They keep adding stuff too.
So that's probably why you keepfinding stuff Every time they
do an update.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I've been covering it .
They've added a lot of stuff tothe Now Bar since it first came
out, and the Now Brief isgetting more features too.
It's just right now.
I think that's still kind of awork in progress, but they've
added a lot of stuff to the NowBar over time that you can
utilize.
Now I would say, you know, forme the Now Bar as well is
probably the more useful of thetwo features right now.

(23:40):
I mean, there's stuff on theNow Bar that I use literally all
the time.
Now, obviously, they have thesports scores from Google that
are on the Now Bar.
I use that all the time becauseI watch a lot of sports.
If you're a sports fan, you cankeep up with all your scores.
I think there's a ton ofpotential for the Now Bar.
They added Samsung Wallet tothe Nowbar.
So when I was traveling for theUnpacked event in New York and

(24:04):
actually I'll talk a little bitabout that when I do my Fold 7
stuff, because I'll tell youguys a little bit about how it
is to go to an Unpacked event itwas my first Unpacked event
ever, which was exciting I gotall my flight information on the
Nowbar so as I was around theairport, I could just have my
phone here and I could justswipe through and see if my gate
had changed or anything.
I can see when I'm supposed tobe leaving.
If I tap it I get my boardingpass so I can just show it and

(24:27):
get on the plane.
Whatever you can, you know,have other information there,
like for trains, other types oftransit, we'll show there as
well.
Eventually, I think they'regoing to start bringing
suggestions for your favoritepayment cards, like when it
detects that you're going to benear a checkout.
So you'll see, like, use your MXor whatever, just tap it, boom.
You don't have to use the swipegesture, it'll just be on the

(24:47):
Now bar.
Smart Things is there now so Ican control my lights at home
from the Now bar.
Samsung Notes, samsung Health,so I can get information there.
And of course, the music.
The media player clock like Icontrol my alarms, control my
stopwatch, and all that withouthaving to go anywhere.
I can do it all from the lockscreen on the Now Bar.
I do think Now Brief isimproving to where it was.

(25:10):
It wasn't that useful at allwhen they launched it, but now
you know they've got YouTube.
They've got full YouTube videos, not just shorts, because they
only had shorts in the beginning.
They can recommend full videos.
Some of those have gotten okay.
They do have Smart Home insidethe NowBrief so they can give
you suggestions on things to do,like if you forgot to turn off
some lights at the end of thenight, nowbrief can say maybe

(25:32):
you want to turn off your livingroom lights.
Usually I'm sitting in theliving room because I'm always
up late and so that's why Ihaven't turned them off.
You can get information aboutevents and tasks and also text
messages.
So if you missed a text message, it can say do you want to
respond to this message?
I'm like no, I'm ghostingsomeone.
Calm down.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, yeah, calm down , and then wireless wearable
battery alerts.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
So if your ring or your watch is low, it can remind
you at the end of the day inyour now brief to say maybe you
should plug in or put your watchor ring on the charger.
So they are trying to improvethe now brief, but I think the
now bar has a lot of so muchpotential yeah, I really love
the now bar.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
There's a lot of things I'd love to see now
integrated.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Obviously they're working on some things we
uncovered, as well as androidauthority uncovered in some apks
.
They're working on some thingswe uncovered, as well as Android
Authority uncovered in someAPKs they're working on to work
with DoorDash, uber, eats,grubhub, so you can get the
status of your DoorDash order onthe Now bar so it'll show you
where your driver is whenthey're arriving, when your
Uber's arriving.
So if you order an Uber, ifyou're traveling, you hail an
Uber, they'll say your driver'sarriving blank.

(26:36):
It'll have the type of car onthe now bar so you need to open
your phone for that, the onethat I would really like to see,
but I don't know if samsungwill touch it because they're
kind of more of a like you knowthey want to be a friendly
family, family friendly companyyeah friendly family family
friendly company is sportsbetting apps.
I'd love to see like fanduel anddraft kings.

(26:57):
So I could like see the statusof my parlay on the thing, so
like if I could have, forinstance, you know, if I bet on
a football game and I have threelegs of the parlay, it could
show me the current legs thatare active and, like, if I tap
on it, it'll expand and show methe stats feature of those
players.
That'd be a killer feature.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh, yeah, that people would love.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I mean, lots of people love sports betting.
Now, it's just the way it is itdefinitely is the way it is.
It's just like AI.
You might as well get over it.
If you don't like it, there'snothing you can do about it.
It's here.
You're not getting rid of AI,you're not getting rid of sports
betting, so that would be afeature that they could market
to a lot of people.
No-transcript, there'd be a wayto determine your NowBar would

(27:46):
say ding your order's ready andyou can then tap it and see you
know which counter to pick it upat, or something if you're at a
large restaurant.
There's a lot of ideas, I think, for for the now bar.
Uh, one ui7, I mean.
I feel like it delivered on thepromise of being a massive
change.
I haven't had any stabilityproblems with one ui7, really,
since the most recent fewupdates.

(28:06):
What about you, tory?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
uh, no, no, not at all.
I mean I would say honestly, uh, going from the s22, ultra uh
to the s25, I mean I I think Ireally like the S22, like the
design overall of the phone, butI'll say, in terms of like
usage and performance, the S25has really been a game changer

(28:30):
to me.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, one UI 7 is great.
I've been using it in parallelwith One UI 8 beta because I
have One UI 7 on one of my S25Ultras and then I have the One
UI 8 beta on another one and Ithink you know if you're excited
about One UI 8, you knowthere's a lot of stuff coming
but it's more of a refinementupdate.
So, you know, don't expectmassive changes in One UI 8.

(28:52):
There's a couple little things,but I think Samsung's saving
the massive changes for One UI8.5.
We actually heard that Samsunghas a new strategy when it comes
to their software releases.
They're going to release thenew main number, which is the
main Android upgrade, with thefoldables in July and then
they'll do a 0.5 update inJanuary with the S line.

(29:15):
They used to do it the otherway around.
They used to do the main updatelike 7.0 would be in January,
7.5 would be in July, but thistime they released 8.0 with the
Fold and 8.5 will come inJanuary with the S26 line.
But weirdly enough, their planis to make it so that the 0.5
release always has the bigcontent changes, feature changes

(29:37):
and stuff from the Samsungperspective, which kind of makes
sense if you think about it.
A lot of people are like 5release always has the big like
content changes, feature changesand stuff from the samsung
perspective, which kind of makessense if you think about it.
A lot of people are like, well,it doesn't make a lot of sense,
but they're basically gettingin google's changes for android
with the 0.0 release, with thefoldables, but they're not
making massive changes becausethat's a new version of android.
They're just getting the newversion of android.
Whatever those changes bring,maybe a few tweaks to one ui and

(29:59):
then in January, when they rollout the flagship S line,
they'll make some big changes tolike their features.
Now bar, now, brief, whatever.
What do you think about that,tori?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, I would say I think it's a pretty good tactic,
you know, and obviously I thinkSamsung is also trying to maybe
shift some gears after the OneUI 7.
Shift into high gear.
Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think they were trying to push out One UI 8
super quick which they basicallyhave.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Which it did feel like that Because One UI 7
basically came out only in Marchin stable.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
So I mean essentially this month you're going to get
a One UI 8 update on your S25Ultra.
You're going to get it becauseit rolled out on the folds.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
That was my next question.
I was going to wonder.
You were going to ask yeah,yeah, it's in beta 4.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I have beta 4 on here .
It's going to stable will bevery soon.
They usually don't do more thanfive betas, so by the end of
August.
Think you're right.
They're like we need to rushout 8.0.
So people are like these guysare good at software updates

(31:06):
again.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Don't want to have a redux.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Establish some credibility.
Don't want to have a redux oflike.
It takes 16 months to get outan update like it did with the
7.0.
But now you know they can relaxa little bit, get some new
features in with 8.5, whichwe'll talk about plenty on the
podcast in the coming weeks.
But let's switch gears totalking about the S26 Ultra,
because you know, in thisbusiness it's always about

(31:29):
what's new.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
It's always about that new People love new, that
new, new People want new.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
People are like give me that new, new.
Yeah, Like I don't want thatphone that came out six months
ago.
I need the one that's comingout in six months.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yes, that's all I want to hear, not the old, old.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
So, going back to what we were talking about with
our S25 Ultra re-review, mineand Tori's thoughts you could
kind of summarize our collectivethoughts, as battery life is
okay, but it would certainly benice if we could have some
faster charging.
Samsung is doing that based onthe leaks.
They, if we could have somefaster charging.
Samsung is doing that based onthe leaks they're going to bring
60 watt charging to the.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
S26.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Ultra, Now is that 100 watts.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
No, is it 85 watts?
No.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Is it even 65 watts?
No, which 65 watts is like astandard.
But we've heard from IceUniverse who is, you know, like
the guy in the industry thatit's 60 watts.
It's a very weird number to me.
Yeah, it's a weird number to me60 watts.
I mean, it seems like 65 wouldhave been the way to go, but
maybe they're like.
We don't want to be like everyother company.
We're gonna do somethingslightly different, so we're

(32:27):
gonna knock five watts off therefor you.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, chop the five watts off the top then make it a
mic drop and just leave a nicesamsung number but uh, 60 watts
I mean I'll take it, it's betterthan 45 yeah, it's more better.
I'm a mathematician 60 isdecidedly better than 45 it's a
bigger number, yeah you know,like we kind of have to, like,
you know, when we're talkingabout, like, daily drivers and,
uh, the average consumer andstuff, like uh, people need that

(32:53):
faster charging because likewe're just so much of a
on-the-go type of society now.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
So it's like my guy, flossy carter, says I mean I
don't want to say it here,because this is the, because
we're just so much of aon-the-go type of society now
it's like my guy Flossie.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Carter says I mean, I don't want to say it here
because this is the family show.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
But it's the S shower and shave phone.
Yes, s you guys know what I'mtalking about, the come home you
got to take a dump, you got toshower you got to shave.
But right before you take adump you put your phone in the
charger.
Yep, how much charge can it getfrom the time that I'm taking
my dump, my shower and my shavecan I get charged up for?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
that night out.
So people, that's what peoplecare about, that's important and
45 watts.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Honestly, as flossy carter has said before in his
reviews, is not enough for thatscenario no I mean, I guess it
depends on you know somelogistics of like how long does
it take you to take a dump?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
yeah, how long do you relax in the shower?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
do you do like a full shave, like the shave brush and
everything?
But assuming that you're in ahurry and you've got to do all
those things quickly, let's sayyou could do them in like 30
minutes.
Your phone is not going to gofrom mostly dead to 100 in in
that time with 45 watts.
You probably still need anotherhour.
Yeah, you probably need likeanother at least 30 to 45
minutes to get to that becauseyou might go from like 20% to

(34:08):
like 80, but if you want to goall the way to 100, because if
you've got a long night out,maybe you're really going to hit
it hard tonight.
Maybe you're going out like Ido all the time these days.
You know, at this point in mylife, I'm always going out to
the club, hitting the clubs,boom, boom, boom.
You know partying the club,drinking bottles in the club,
bottles in the club.

(34:33):
No, I don't do any of that.
But if you are doing that andyou're a young person who
Samsung is targeting for theirtarget audience, you probably do
want that ability, and I think60 watts gets you a little
closer.
Maybe it gets you from 80 to90%.
That's meaningful.
It's something we also heardoriginally in the leaks that
there might be an upgrade from5,000 to 5,500 milliamp hour
battery, and people were reallyexcited about that.
They're like, oh, biggerbattery and faster charging.

(34:55):
But Ice Universe shot that down.
One leaker said it's true, butthen Ice said it's not, and I
tend to believe Ice, even thoughthe other guy is also pretty
reliable.
Here's why I believe Ice.
Samsung has been widelybelieved to be slimming down the
entire S26 lineup, not just theEdge.
This time, all the phones willbe slimmed down, and so if

(35:18):
you're going to slim it down asthe physics dictates and
thermals, dictate you can'treally slim the phone down a lot
and make the battery bigger.
You maybe make it a smidgebigger, but you're not going to
be able to slim it down a ton ifyou do that.
So plus the other variablewhich we don't even know yet, is
the S-PIN here or is it notnext year?

(35:38):
Does it stay or does it go down?
If you say I could be trouble,I don't know that song but,
anyway.
Um, I don't know.
They want to save space.
The one way you can save spacewith the s ultra snatch the
s-pin out.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's save the most space yeah, but like okay, look,
I mean obviously it's ways away.
But like questions I have areare we going to get another edge
?
Um, is that going to come nextyear?
We are, we are okay.
So the leaks?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
so far.
Show and tori, it's good youasked this, because I did want
to mention it.
We can obviously, like I said,we've been away for a while, so
we got a lot to talk about inthe upcoming episodes the leaks
show that there's going to bethree models this year, but
they're not the same threemodels we've been used to.
Last year we got S25, s25 Plus,s25 Ultra and then the S25 Edge
.
Later this year, the leaks showthat we're getting rid of the

(36:30):
S25 and S25 Plus entirely.
The new lineup will be S25 Pro,s25 Edge and S25 Ultra.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
The s25 pro.
Oh, you mean the s26, I'm sorrys26 pro, s26 edge, s26 ultra.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
The pro is supposedly going to be one that's closer
in size to the current basemodel but it'll have an upgraded
main camera, kind of like theultra.
So it's more pro, less basefeeling.
It's still like a flagship.
The edge will be basically whatthe s25 edge was, except
they're trying to increase thebattery size while still making
it thin and increase the camerato be a little better like the

(37:11):
ultra and then the ultra.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
So those are going to be the lineup, so these are
really going to be like threedifferent flavors.
Finally, yeah, because in thepast.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
The s25 plus has honestly been like a kind of a
boring phone because, it's kindof stuck in the middle and the
s25 has also been boring becauseit's it's the base model but it
didn't have any of the appealof of the ultra.
Yeah, like you think about,this is what I'd asked them to
do last year when we did apodcast episode.
You think about apple strategy.
They have the Pro and the ProMax and there's almost no

(37:41):
difference.
Besides the size differencebetween the Pro and the Pro Max.
The Pro Max occasionally getslike one camera feature that's
different.
So it seems like Samsung istrying to do this as well, where
the Pro and the Ultra might becloser, aside from a few
features.
The question is is the S Pengoing to be one of those
features?
Yeah, I don't know.

(38:02):
I don't know it's going to be agood question, but it seems
like we're not getting 5,500milliamp hour battery, because I
don't think Samsung can reallyslim the phone down at all if
they increase the battery andkeep the S Pen.
There's no way you either haveto increase the battery, get.
There's no way you either haveto increase the battery, get rid
of the S Pen.
If you want to slim it downsome, you could keep the battery
the same and keep the S Pen andprobably slim it down some.

(38:24):
If you do a little bit ofredesigning of the chassis, yeah
and hey, if you keep thebattery the same and get rid of
the S Pen, you could slim itdown a whole lot and probably
make some people really angry.
I don't know.
But the problem is Samsung haslearned.
We just taught Samsung avaluable lesson with the Fold 7
launch.
People like thinness.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yes, people do like thinness.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Because this phone is insanely thin and that's why it
sold so much better than the ZFold 6.
Yeah, people didn't buy thisbecause of its crazy battery
life and they didn't buy itbecause of the S Pen.
In fact, they took the S penaway from the fold.
It doesn't work with foldanymore.
So we're kind of telling peopleSamsung, hey, it's okay to get
rid of the S pen, people don'tmind, so don't be surprised,

(39:10):
we'll see.
My personal bet is that it willstay on the S26 ultra, but I
think it'll go away on the S27Ultra.
I think Samsung's going to takea two-year break from the S Pen
, do you?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
think it's needed?
Do you think they need to takea break from the S Pen?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
I don't know.
I think in their mind, I thinkit's a way to catalyze sales,
because the thinness is a sexymarketing thing.
The S Pen has been there for awhile, so I think their strategy
is this.
This is what I would do.
They're working on technologythat allows to have the S Pen
without a digitizer.
The digitizer is why they'retaking the S Pen out, really,
because that makes the phonethicker.

(39:50):
The actual silo they couldprobably still include in the
Ultra and be okay.
They just won't be able toincrease the battery size, but
they can still slim it down.
But the digitizer layer makesit thicker.
So I think they're going totake the S Pen away, like they

(40:11):
did on the Fold, make the SUltra thinner and then, once
they perfect the digitizer, freeS Pen, maybe with, like the S30
Ultra.
They could bring it back and belike hey, 30th anniversary of
the Ultra, even though it's notbecause they jumped from 10 to
20.
It's actually the 20thanniversary.
They'd be like the 20thanniversary phone, the S Pen is
back, the fan favorite returns.
And then the crowd will go wildand unpack Because it's been

(40:33):
gone for two or three years andthey'll be like now it doesn't
need a digitizer because we'vegot digitizer-free tech and it
still does all the same stuffand we bought back the Bluetooth
capability.
People will go insane.
Oh yeah, they will love it.
So sometimes you've got to takesomething away.
That way you can bring it backand save this kind of new
feature, because then you wouldhave a thin phone that also

(40:53):
supports the S Pen without thedigitizer.
I think in their mind theyprobably think it is necessary,
whether or not it is.
I mean, it's a competitivemarket and they got to stay
ahead of Apple and Apple'sreleasing the iPhone 17 Air next
month, because September we'realready a month away.
Only We'll be talking about newiPhones, which isn't really
exciting to me, because I'm nota huge.

(41:14):
I'm not a massive iPhoneaficionado.
Maybe I should be.
I'm not a massive iPhoneaficionado.
Maybe I should be, butsometimes I'm just not an
aficionado.
Anyway, let's talk about thecamera.
The camera on the S26 Ultra.
I said that I thought it coulduse some low light boost to the
main sensor.
It looks like Samsung's gettingit.
There's a leak that says thatthey're going to use the new HP

(41:36):
2 Plus ISOCELL sensor with alarger aperture.
What does that mean?
In everyday language, it meanslarger aperture lets in more
light, which means your lowlight photos are going to look
better because they're going tobe able to get in more light
through the camera and give youbetter lit photos that have
crisper images when you'reshooting indoors or you're
shooting outdoors at night.

(41:56):
And it is the first primarycamera upgrade in about four or
five years to Samsung sensor,which is exactly what people
were wanting.
So I mean just looking at thesechanges, I think the S26 Ultra
is looking like a pretty bigupgrade to the S25 Ultra.
We're going to get fastercharging, we're going to get One

(42:17):
UI 8.5, which again we'll talkabout some of the rumor changes
but there's going to be someupgrades there and you're going
to get a better primary camera,which is cool.
Now let me show you.
Before we take our first well,I guess our only break for the
show, but take our break Let meshow you the render of the S25
ultra that someone did based onsome CAD information that Ice

(42:39):
Universe leaked.
This is a render of what theS26 Ultra could look like right
here.
There you go.
Let me open it up there.
It is Tori.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh okay, S26 Ultra.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
It basically looks like an S25 Ultra, but they used
the camera housing from the ZFold 7.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, so you can kind of tell the phone will be
thinner.
Yeah, it's going to be thinner.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
And it looks like it's probably going to have this
kind of camera housing, which Ido.
Like this better than thecamera rings that they had on
the.
That's one thing I do not likeabout the S25 Ultra these camera
rings, the faux camera rings,with those black plastic rings.
Those are just plastic ringsthey put on them.
We could do without those.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
So I think this is a good decision.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
I think it looks good .
Someone rendered it in mint,which is the same color that the
Z Fold 7 comes in for thespecial edition color that
Samsung sells on Samsungcom.
I think it looks good.
I think if we get a biggercamera, a better camera sensor
on the primary camera and we getfaster charging and I'm sure a
couple of other little upgradeswill come, of course we'll have

(43:43):
the new Snapdragon processor inthere, which is always probably
going to be more efficient, soit'll give a little bit better
battery life.
In that sense, it reallydepends on what they do with the
S Pen, because who's going tobuy it depends on if they really
just make these changes andthey keep the S Pen.
A lot of enthusiasts might beinterested.
If they remove the S Penentirely, it's going to make a
lot of people angry who are likeS ultra loyalists, because they

(44:05):
love the S Pen, I love the SPen and I do like the S Pen too.
I certainly see Samsung's visionfor why they might take it away
.
I don't think they'll take itaway forever, but I kind of hope
that they at least have it forone more year.
So, we'll see.
Anyway, of course we'll havefull reviews of the S26 Ultra
when it comes out.
Tori hopefully I'll be able toupgrade Tori's phone again

(44:27):
Should be able to and then he'llbe able to give some thoughts
about jumping from the one-yearcycle.
Tory's probably never done aone-year upgrade cycle.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
I've never done a one-year cycle, so he'll be like
is this a massive change or not?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
We'll be able to get Tory's thoughts on like does it
blow his mind after one year?
Probably not, because year overyear it's usually not like
mind-blowing, but it's still funto get the play with it.
Uh, okay, we'll take a quickbreak.
Um, we come back.
Z-fold seven.
I'll give us some z-fold seventhoughts and then a couple of
other quick little news storiesbefore we leave and, uh, we'll

(44:58):
keep expanding your galaxy rightafter these messages.
All right, welcome backeverybody.
We are here in the second halfof the show and I'm going to
talk about the z-fold seven alittle bit and give you know,
tori, some thoughts, because youknow he hasn't spent any time
with his evil 7.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
He's seen it yeah, he's been in the office, but
he's definitely seen, you knowyou can feel to see how thin
that is.
Story is just a it's quite apiece right when you hold in
your hands, you're just like wowthis is quite a piece good like
, actually like nice feel, feelsgood to hold it like in both
hands when you have it open.
Um, just really good withswiping, uh, very responsive.

(45:32):
Uh, I really like the hinge,like it's not really that
noticeable, like, obviously,with the lights, the way it's
glaring now if you tilt it tothe left, to the right, you can
see the crease, but you know,yeah, it's not too bad.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
I mean, the thing is, I talked about when I first got
it and people ask you know, isthe crease less noticeable?
Well, every time you get a newfoldable, the crease is less
noticeable because you havefolded it.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
You know, the crease gets worse over time on every
fold because you're going tofold the phone and as you fold
it of course the crease is goingto get more noticeable.
But I mean, it's not ever a bigproblem when you're just
viewing the phone straight on,because when you view it
straight on obviously you cansee, you know what you're

(46:16):
looking at the content.
You're not really going to belooking at the crease.
But yeah, if you turn it offaxis, of course you're going to
see the crease.
But I mean, I'm not.
I don't make it a habit ofturning my phone 30 degrees to
the left or the right when I'mlooking at the content, because
who the heck is doing that withtheir slab phone?
Anyway, no one is.
So when you're using the Foldit's not like you're going to be
like, oh my God, the crease isjust so bad.

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I can't enjoy the phone becauseit's just so creased.
No one's going to be sayingthat, no, no, no.
But the thinness of this phoneis insane.
It's quite remarkable.
It is an engineering Marvel,honestly, because you know.
Tori just took it out andcompared it to his S 25 ultra.
I have my S 25 ultra on thetable here.
It is thinner than an S 25ultra with a case on it.

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If you put a case on your S 25ultra, the Z fold seven is
thinner than the S 25 ultra andI have a thin case on mine.
Tori has the UAG Monarch, whichis pretty thick, which I love.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Which he loves.
I gifted him that case Also.
It's a good.
What was it?
The good kind?
Yeah, the.
What was the other one?
Oh, that was the Samsungofficial leather one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
The UAG Monarch is really nice.
It's a $100 case but it's veryproductive.
You could drop it from the roofof your house and your phone
will be fine.
But it's also very thick.
But I have a Pataka MagSafecase on mine.
It's a pretty thin case and theZ Fold 7 is still thinner than
the S25 Ultra with that case onand that's when it's folded.
If you unfold it, the Z Fold 7is thinner than pretty much

(47:43):
anything.
Yeah, right.
Including even the S25 Edge.
The S25 Edge can't even best ZFold 7 when it's unfolded it's
razor thin.
I've got some questions aboutis it uncomfortable to hold
because it's so thin?
In my opinion, no.
I read some people's stuff onReddit where they're like, well,
it's hard to open it becauseit's so thin.

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I entirely disagree.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
It's light.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
It feels very light.
I spent some time.
I think they're saying it'sjust because it's so thin.
It's hard to wedge your fingersin here to open it.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I spent some time unfolding this one versus my Z
Fold 6 because someone on Redditwas like, well, it's way easier
to unfold the Z Fold 6 becauseit's got a little bit more
thickness to the sides than theZ Fold 7.
I disagree.
Now, if you're talking abouttrying to unfold it with one
hand, yeah, I guess it's reallyhard to do it.
But who's unfolding their$2,000?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
foldable with one hand.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Even with the Z Fold 6, it's kind of risky to do that
.
You could do it but it'scertainly easier to try.
But I don't think very manypeople are going to be trying to
unfold a $2,000 foldable withjust one hand.
It's just not practical.
So I don't think that's reallykind of a non-starter kind of
problem.
Of course you know there aresome trade-offs with the build
quality, namely to get this thinthey had to get rid of the

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S-pen.
That's one thing.
So if you like the S-pen, youdon't have an S-pen this time.
This time I do have a video upon YouTube where I show that you
can use a regular stylus justfine with the inner and outer
screen.
So if you still want somethingto write with, it's obviously

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not an S Pen, because an S Penhas a digitizer.
It's more accurate.
The old S Pen also the S PenPro that you could buy for the
Fold had the Bluetooth functionsthat Samsung took from the S25
Ultra as well, so you could usea stylus like, if you want to do
it for Samsung Notes, if youwant to do it for drawing assist
, you can use a stylus with it,but you lose your S Pen

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functionality, obviously withyou know.
The concerns about it being thinare thermal concerns about the
phone.
You know not dissipating heatvery well, because obviously the
thinner it is, the less roomthere is for heat to be
dissipated.
That is a legitimate concern.
In my first few weeks using myreview unit, I did notice a

(50:05):
little bit more heating upoutdoors.
It's calmed down a little bitafter this first software update
that the phone got.
I will say, though, that if youexpect it to be as good for
gaming, in terms of long gamingsessions, as something like the
S25 Ultra.
It won't be, just because itdoes get hot inside the phone
and so because it's thinner,it's harder to dissipate heat

(50:29):
and so it's going to basicallyclock down the processor
compared to something like theS25 Ultra, just to kind of deal
with that heating issue.
So that can be a concern.
If you play something likereally heavy games like Asphalt
or something like that for 30plus minutes, then that could be
a concern.
I don't play any mobile gamesthat are super powerful for 30

(50:53):
plus minute sessions.
Very often I force myself to doit just on this phone, just to
test it, and I can say that thatis going to be a bit of a
concern.
What other concerns, tori, justlooking at this phone, because
I mean I've mentioned some ofthe ones on Reddit If you were
thinking about buying this phone, switching from your S s25
ultra, what other concerns wouldyou have about a phone like the

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z fold 7?

Speaker 2 (51:15):
well.
So I guess, like my main thingswould be, you know, obviously,
because as an average consumer,this would be my literal phone.
Like you know, I wouldn't haveany other extra phone yeah,
pretty much everybody's in thatcase yeah, yeah, yeah,
especially spending two thousanddollars yeah uh, you know, I, I
think for me, my, my big thingswould be um, how's the camera,

(51:38):
the battery?
uh, and how does it feel?
Uh, or how, how well do youthink the phone would last?
Or what, what, what changes inlifestyle?
I would need to do like for meto carry the phone throughout my
day and protect my investmentessentially it's a good question
.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I mean, I would say, in terms of durability, which is
a question I was kind ofalluding to, which is, you know,
in your day-to-day routine youdon't have to baby this as much
as you did, like early foldables.
It's still not, as it's stillnot as durable in terms of its
ip rating as the s25 ultra.
This is ip48 instead of 68, sothis doesn't have as good of

(52:19):
dust protection.
Basically, you still have to beyou.
Technically, you start to besomewhat careful about getting
dust in it, which basicallymeans you don't want to take
this to the beach and throw itin the sand.
But I wouldn't do that with mys25 ultra.
Anyway, people are like well, Ican't take it to the beach.
Well, I don't.
I'm careful when I take my s25ultra to the beach too.
You know why?
Because sand can scratch thedisplay.

(52:40):
Sand particles are one of thefew things that can scratch a
phone display.
Um, that that's why I'm alwayscareful with this phone.
So I wouldn't throw a slabphone in the sand either, and I
would still be careful with itat the beach.
But just for day-to-day stufflike you, there's no concerns.
Like I throw this in my pocketwhen it's got lit.
I'm not careful about like youknow.
Obviously I got dust in myoffice.

(53:01):
I don't worry about like if Ithrow it somewhere where there's
some dust.
I was super worried about thatwith the first fold six years
ago.
I was like I need to go into avacuum sealed room yeah, I know,
I was like before I come inwith my fold.
Can someone please vacuum sealthis room for?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
me, and that's like samsung was kind of like
marketing it, you know.
You know like it was likehere's this cool phone, but it's
also very fragile.
Yeah, yeah, it's not it's notanymore.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
I mean it has a water resistant rating.
It does have have the dustresistant rating, just not as
good as the S25 Ultra.
But in terms of that you don'thave to worry about it.
Some people worry a little bitabout the fact that this phone
doesn't.
They say it doesn't fullyunfold entirely.
But this is not really aconcern either.
Basically they're saying if youunfold it, it doesn't look like

(53:50):
it unfolds flat.
There's a slight curve, youknow a slight little angle.
That's natural for all foldsand it's because if it unfolded
180 degrees completely, thatputs more stress on the hinge
which makes it more prone tocracking and stuff.
Yeah, so you want some give toit.
So they make sure it doesn'treally really unfolds like 175
to 178.

(54:10):
To it, so they make sure itdoesn't really it really unfolds
like 175 to 178.
You can force it to 180, butit's not a good idea because
technically it won't crack, butover time it'll put more stress
on the inner display from theway the hinge actually bends and
stuff.
So all folds are like this, notjust the Z Fold 7.
And that's not really, in myopinion, a big issue.
It's something that some peoplehave complained about on reddit

(54:30):
.
People have also found thatsome units have a gap on the
side when it's folded, so alongthe side where the power and
volume button is.
I do not have this on my reviewunit.
I actually also have a personalunit that just came in.
I bought a black one that I'mgoing to make my main unit,
which I need to set up.
I check that one.
It doesn't have the defecteither.
That is really a hardwareproblem, though it seems like it

(54:52):
affects a small number.
If you see that, I would returnit.
Let's make Samsung give you areplacement, because that little
gap when it's folded on thepower button, right above the
power button, where you canactually see through the gap in
the phone, that would be bad.
It's like right here.
There's like right here is likea little gap it doesn't close
all the way.

(55:12):
That's a defect.
I would say the hinge isdefinitely better on this phone
in terms of, like you know,build quality of the hinge.
It unfolds so smooth, like it'smuch smoother than the Z Fold 6
.
I mean the smooth, the foldingaction is impressively smooth.
So I really think Samsung didan amazing engineering feat by

(55:33):
making this phone and it'sreally impressive what they
achieved on that end.
Um, in terms of usability, it'salso way more usable because
now you have a wider coverdisplay and you can see, tori,
that if you compare it to yours25 ultra, it's not that much
more narrow anymore, you know itused to be.
It used to be way more narrow onthe front screen.
You know, like so much so thatyou'd be like I don't know if I

(55:55):
can type on that, but it's notanymore.
I mean, you can easily type,like you can type out your
tweets, your emails and stuff.
I mean, of course, it's not aswide as the Z, as the S25 ultra,
but there's still plenty ofroom for you to do your typing,
your emails.
I have no problem answeringmessages and firing off stuff.
I always had that problem up tolast year.
That's why I never used a Foldas my main phone, because, you

(56:17):
know, as I tell people whenthey're thinking about buying a
foldable, 90% of people aregoing to use the cover screen
more than the inner screen.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Oh yeah, so you have to keep in mind On the go.
Yeah, you have to keep in mind.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah, you have to keep in mind like you need to be
comfortable with a cover screenbecause even though the sexy
appeal of the foldable is theinner screen, like the whole
appeal of it is that you've gotthat big tablet, mini tablet
inside.
This is not what you're goingto use the majority of the time.
I would say as a foldable userfor myself, when I use it as a
daily driver, I use the innerscreen probably 70% of the time

(56:52):
and the inner screen about 30%.
I would say some foldable usersget closer to 50-50, but I
still think almost everyfoldable user, the majority of
your time is spent on the outerscreen, just because if you're
an on-the-go professional orparent or whatever anybody, for
the most part you're going to beusing this screen a lot because

(57:13):
you're going to be.
What do you do the majority ofthe time on your phone?
Like you're not gaming andwatching media on a phone.
The majority of the time You'reanswering messages.
If you're doing work, you'refiring off emails, you know.
You're doing your to-do list,you know all these things that
typically you're doing whileyou're doing other things You're
on the go.
It's hard to unfold the phoneand when I'm walking down the
road or if I'm in a busyrestaurant, I'm usually not

(57:34):
unfolding it to do stuff.
When do I unfold it?
At night, when I'm sitting onmy couch, when I want to
multitask but I don't want topull out my computer, or when I
want to game or watch media andI don't have my tablet or my
laptop.
It's a great phone for that and, don't get me wrong, at $2,000,
.
There's a lot of people outthere who are probably thinking

(57:55):
should I buy this and replace myphone and my tablet?
And that's actually a goodquestion.
But it really comes down towhat size tablet are you used to
and what size tablet do youneed, because while this is a
tablet-like interface, it's nota big tablet.
So if you are someone who needsa 10 plus inch tablet because
you do things that require youto have two, two pretty large

(58:16):
size windows, like when youmultitask, this one's not going
to give you two large windows.
Like if you're someone who'sdoing like email, slack, asana,
you could do that, and that'swhat I do a lot at night, when
I'm working with the writers,like I'm answering emails from
brands who want to partner withus, I've got Slack up talking
about different article ideaswith my writers, and I'm at

(58:38):
Asana managing all of ourvarious tasks that we have to
assign articles and stuff.
That's great for this, but if Iwant to write a full article
myself on here and do researchin a browser, it's a little
difficult.
It's a lot easier to do that ona tablet or a laptop.
So you know a lot of people arelike should I buy this and
replace my laptop and my phone,or my laptop and my tablet and

(59:03):
phone?
And it depends on what you needto do.
For a lot of people that won'tbe a good replacement just yet.
But with Dex, obviously, if youwant to have this and just hook
it up to a monitor, you can getthat full desktop experience
using Samsung DeX.
That's a great thing, but thatalso means you have to hook it
up to a monitor.
It's not just you know, it'snot just the device itself.

(59:24):
So that's something to keep inmind.
The camera good, but it'sbasically just the same as the
s25 ultra.
It has some problems.
You don't have the same zoomthat you have on the s25 ultra.
So tori was saying earlier heuses the zoom.
So if you're someone like toriwho uses the zoom camera, this
does not even have 5x zoom.

(59:45):
It only goes up to 3x optical.
So that's a downer.
But I mean, again, that's aspace saving constraint.
So I mean, but the primarycamera is good, it's good.
Um, it needs a camera sensorupgrade, just like we talked
about the s25 ultra.
So hopefully for the z fold 8,they find a way to get that
sensor with the larger aperturefrom the s26 ultra into the z

(01:00:07):
fold 8.
That'll be massive.
Um, I mean, I really don't havelike.
There's not a lot of complaintsabout this phone.
The S Pen being gone is goingto be annoying for a lot of
people.
Battery life is not the best.
I haven't really talked aboutthat yet, but that was the other
big thing I wanted to talkabout.
The battery life is a step downfrom the S25 Ultra.

(01:00:27):
There's no getting around it.
It also kind of makes sense,though, because, if you were
thinking about what I just saidearlier, I thought about this
because I'm working on my Z Fold7 review for Samiguru.
I use this device differentlythan I use the S25 Ultra,
because for the S25 Ultra, if Iwanted to do Slack Asana and

(01:00:52):
Slack Asana and like someresearch in Chrome, I would
probably always switch to mylaptop or tablet from the S25
Ultra.
I would never do that on theS25 Ultra, but because of the Z
Fold 7, I can open it up.
I sometimes, if I don't want togo to my laptop, I'll just do
those tasks on the Fold becauseI can.
So, if you think about it, I'mactually using the Fold for a

(01:01:15):
lot heavier workloads than Iwould on the S25 Ultra, which
then also is going to make thebattery life worse because it's
doing more multitaskingworkloads right.
So, if you think about it, yes,the battery life, I don't get
as many screen on time hours.
I probably get like four and ahalf, which is like one and a
half hours less than I averageon the S25 Ultra, but I'm kind
of using it as a phone tablethybrid, which I would never do

(01:01:38):
on the S25 Ultra.
So I kind of think it makessense, like I don't feel like
you should be that disappointedif you use it in that way.
You can't expect to replace twodevices a tablet and a phone
and get the same battery lifethat you just get from a phone,
because of course you would beusing your tablet for some of
those tasks if you didn't have afoldable.
So I kind of justify it thatway.

(01:01:59):
I don't think from thatperspective the battery life is
that bad because I'm kind ofusing it slightly differently
for heavier things.
Does that make sense, right?
I'm just kind of justifyingthis.
When I was writing I've beenmaking notes for my z fold 7
review I feel like it makessense, like I should expect a
little bit less battery life oh,yeah, right, uh, because you
are doing or I call it a twofer,so like you're trying trying to

(01:02:22):
get more out of the fold thanyou normally would.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Right Cause, yeah, like, if I have my S a 25 ultra
light and I need it to do a lotof computational things, well,
yeah, I'm still gonna have my S25 light by me and I may use it
for like a thing or something,you know, if I, you know, find
it you're going to pull out yourlaptop or your tablet or

(01:02:51):
something.
Yeah, the majority of it I'm.
I'm doing it from the laptop.
So, uh, if I'm replacing, um, atablet and a phone for just the
one phone, like the fold, thenyeah, I should expect a lower
battery life yeah, just becauseI'm demanding more.
You know, I'm trying to makeone thing, do two things exactly
.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah, I think this is ignored.
I haven't seen really anyreviews in all the history of
foldables that talk about this.
It's like you you sell peopleon replacing two devices with
one, but then you're judging itagainst regular slab phones as a
battery in terms of batterylife that doesn't seem like it
needs to be like his own,separate, like like you can.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
That's how I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Foldable to foldable, yeah but a lot of people like
oh, it's not as good as the s25ultra, so you should never don't
consider buying it because it'sa really big knock.
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Yeah, no, it's fine and actually that was like my,
my follow-up question.
I was gonna say, you know, likewe talked about it before, like
when samsung released firstfirst release to fold.
Like you know, this is a verylike at least the vibes I got
from it is this is the type ofphone that you show up to like

(01:03:49):
the nba games with.
You know in you know some highprofile event, like you know,
this is the phone for you tojust kind of stunt, um, and I I
haven't really gotten that vibeso much you know from samsung
lately with that, but would youstill say that this phone, like
you know it, like you know who,who are they marketing this

(01:04:12):
phone towards?
Like who, who would value thisphone the most?

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
well, I, think you're right, tory.
In the beginning they reallymarketed this with the first
couple folds as like uh, this isexclusive phone.
No, don't buy this unless youeither have a lot of money or
you're an enthusiast and youwant to try something different.
But with this launch, I thinkthey finally with the c-fold 7
and z-flip 7.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
It feels like they're marketing this to the
mainstream.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah, they're like you should buy this if you're
anybody because basically, ifyou switch from your slab phone,
you're not compromisinganything and you're actually
gaining something.
You're gaining a small tabletin your pocket and everything
else.
The camera is just as good asyour S25 Ultra.
The front display is now a lotbigger.
You can do all of your regularphone stuff and you open it up
and you get this big displaywhere you can multitask.

(01:04:56):
I mean, of course, with thecaveat, it's still $2,000.
That's the big thing.
For most people, it's still$2,000.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
It's still $2,000.
That's the big thing for mostpeople.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
It's like a lot of people are like, yeah, I want it
, but $2,000 is a lot of money.
I still think for the foldablesto go truly mainstream, we have
to get this quality of phoneand obviously it's only going to
get better from here.
Oh yeah, they're only going toimprove it and it's already very

(01:05:25):
impressive this year in termsof the quality.
But I think we got to getbetter, the better quality with
like a 1500 price tag.
Yeah, once we get down to the1500 range now there's only like
200 I think those things areselling now there's only like
200 difference between the s?
ultra and the fold.
Yeah, a lot of people willchoose the fold over the s ultra
, I definitely right now it's800 difference.
800 difference is not nothing.

(01:05:46):
Um, and people are like well,I've been using s old for my
whole life.
It's very good, I like it.
Why do I want to jump to thefull for 800?
I need to be convinced thatit's like far and away the best
choice.
And even though they've made acompelling case at the I mean
this these phones have ravereviews from everyone, not just
from from Sammy Guru.
Obviously, we only cover Samsung, so we like the phone.

(01:06:06):
I mean, if the phone's garbage?
I'll tell you, last year Ididn't like the Z Fold 6.
I told you it was basicallyiterative trash and Samsung
should be ashamed of themselvesfor doing nothing and putting
out the same phone and trying tomake people upgrade.
I did not like it.
I thought it was terrible.
But this year, you know theydid something.

(01:06:28):
They should be commended.
It's impressive.
I think if you've been waitingto try Fold this is kind of what
I'm using as my tagline for thereview If you've been waiting
to try Fold, this is the year tofinally do it Like.
If you've always been intriguedand you've been like, ah, but
there's this, but there's that.
This is the year to finally tryit.
I think you're going to be okaywith the battery life.
Most average people, I mean Iput my phone through an absolute
massive workload.
When I do the reviews I try todo everything on there.

(01:06:50):
I mean I wrote some articlesentirely on the Fold and also
play a lot of games and do otherstuff.
So I don't think you're goingto have a problem with the
battery life.
If you're an average person,they'll keep refining that with
software updates.
Not a huge problem.
The camera is is is great,obviously.
I mean really the only thing islike if you miss the s bin, you
know that's.
That's a concern I I would saydurability, there's nothing to

(01:07:14):
worry about anymore.
The usability of the frontcover display there's nothing to
worry about anymore.
The camera quality there'snothing to worry about anymore.
And if you're one of thosepeople who, well, I don't want a
foldable because it's too damnheavy, it's too damn bulky, you
don't have to worry about thatanymore either it feels very
light.
It's actually lighter than theS25.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Ultra by three grams.
It feels very light.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
And it's thinner.
If you put a case on your S25Ultra, it's thinner.
I will say the state of thefoldable case market is really
bad, though.
I hate foldable cases, so theonly downside is, you know, if
you spend this much money, Ihighly recommend just get the

(01:07:54):
samsung care and just go withouta case, because the cases are
really not good most of them.
Either you have a huge trade-off, either you buy one that's
super thick and then youcompletely defeat the purpose of
having this nice, sexy, thinlight phone, because you
basically turn it into a brick.
Why buy $2,000 worth ofprecision engineering to turn it
into a brick, but it'sprotected.

(01:08:14):
Or you buy a thin case thatgoes on here, but those cases
are so bad for the foldables Ifyou drop it they often pop off
the front piece.
We put some in the mysteryboxes, which I liked, which are
like a nice middle ground, buteven then the ones we put in
there are a little thicker thanI would like.
It's just like there's no wayaround it.
If you put a case on a fold,because of the fact that it has

(01:08:35):
a front piece and a back piece,it almost doubles the thickness
of the Fold 7, which takes away,like it's engineering, marvel
and the whole point of kind ofhaving one.
So, that's kind of a downside isthat slab phone accessories are
still in a better place whereyou know it makes sense to have
accessories that do something.
I don't know that they're in agreat place yet for the

(01:08:55):
foldables, but that's my thought.
I'll have a full review but ingeneral, I mean everything has
impressed me about this phone.
It's had rave reviews fromeveryone.
I thought the speakers would bebad because it's thin.
The speakers are not bad.
They're almost as good as theS25 Ultra.
I mean I am impressed.
I don't know how Samsung did it.
Like everything about thisphone is great.
The displays are amazing, ofcourse, because they're Samsung.

(01:09:17):
Oh, I didn't comment onsoftware.
Let's talk, let's say that realquick.
The software, obviously, thatwhen stable really comes out
they'll fix it.
There's a lot of bugs in oneui8 on this phone which is
unacceptable.
The hardware is so amazing thateveryone has overlooked this in
their reviews.
But since I cover software andsamsung software every day and

(01:09:39):
using the beta from the s25versus the z fold 7, which is
supposed to be stable, it's ajoke.
The Samsung should beembarrassed about that.
I mean I guess they had tooverlook something to make out
this amazing hardware.
But that should not be acompromise that they should have
.
I mean, you can't say thatthey're really behind there,
because Apple has put outembarrassing software lately too

(01:10:00):
.
Ios 26 had all kinds ofproblems with their liquid glass
.
It wasn't even readable A hugedisaster.
Apple has really fallen behindwhen it comes to software
stability, but Samsung shouldn'tuse that as an excuse.
I mean, I was disappointed that, like the new clock, like this
adaptive clock on here, thisclock is supposed to contour
like to the face of, like ananimal or a person.

(01:10:21):
That's cool.
It doesn't work, though halfthe time it's supposed to work
really nice, yeah, it needs towork every time and two thousand
dollars.
Yeah, see, like look you see howthis like, you see this right
here, how the three likecontours, like if you move this
around, see how the three comesdown.
But if you hit done and youlike try to actually apply it,
sometimes it doesn't actuallywork.

(01:10:43):
You saw how it wasn't workingbefore because it didn't have
that originally.
It sometimes doesn't apply theadaptive clock on the lock
screen.
It's really cool.
Look at the animation how, likethe three comes down when you
have the aod on too.
That was supposed to be afeature from one ui8, but it
doesn't work every time.
There's a lot of these featureslike that were introduced with
one ui8 and this is supposed tobe the stable build and they

(01:11:04):
don't work.
So that tells me that it'sreally still a beta build, that
they just put a stable stickeron and said hey, slap it on the
phone is released, and so we gotto shove it out the door.
That's the same thing they didwith the s25 we'll get together
by 8.5 yeah they're like maybeby 8.5, the stable build that we
release on the s26 will reallybe a stable build.
They're like, shh guys, don'ttell anybody.

(01:11:25):
It's really a beta.
They're like just don't tellthe media, We'll just say it's
stable.
It's really an internal testingbuild.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
But hey, just put it out, there We've got to release
the phones.
No one's going to know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
It's July 9th, just shove them out the door, no
problem.
But they've done that twice nowand that's kind of annoying.
Obviously, the average consumerwon't notice because, for one
thing, samsung didn't do a goodjob of advertising this new
feature with the lock screenclock.
Maybe they didn't do that onpurpose, because they're like
hey, we know it's broken, wejust won't tell anybody about it
.
The only people who will knowwill be the media and the people

(01:11:57):
who cover it.
But that shouldn't be.
That doesn't feel right.
I mean, you want to show offyour brand new features and tell
people about them, like thatshould be in the setup.
Be like check out this newawesome adaptive lock clock.
You know, like Apple publicizestheir new features a lot,
samsung should do the same.
But when you don't have areally stable build, can't do
that because you don't wantpeople to find out that the

(01:12:19):
feature doesn't work.
But yeah, there's been a fewhiccups with the build.
Also, all the GoodLock modulesweren't ready yet when One UI 8
came out on the folds.
Not a good look.
Samsung should do better.
There's always room to improve.
But from the hardwareperspective I can't say anything
negative about the phone.
It's the most complete foldablethere is in the world.

(01:12:39):
One UI 8 is still the bestsoftware for foldable because
the multitasking.
There's certainly a couple ofthings they could add that I
think would make it better, butoverall the software is the best
and with upcoming updates I'msure it'll get more stable in
terms of the overall stabilityof the software.
So if you want a Z Fold 7 andyou've been intrigued, I'd say

(01:13:00):
buy one.
I think there's still like 70%of people who are still like
slab phones are my thing.
I'm never going to do it.
There's like 15% of people outthere who are like I've tried a
foldable and I like it and I'llstick with it.
And then there's like 15% ofpeople who are like I don't know
, I'm on the fence, should I go?
Stay slab or should I gofoldable?
Those people, people.

(01:13:27):
If you're in that camp, this isthe year, if you have the money
, to finally try it, becausethis is the year where it's
finally good enough, where it'slike there's no big compromises,
and I would recommend it ifyou're interested in a book
style foldable.
Um, apple is probably going torelease their first foldable
next year, so that'll rocket themarket off of everything,
because when apple releases itthen you know, all the iphone
fans will be like look, appleinvented foldable phonesable
phones.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
That's going to be a very competitive scene.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
They'll be like look, apple just invented foldables.
And we'll be like wait what?

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
The Galaxy Z Fold came out in 2019, seven years
ago.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Yeah, like invented.
What did they invent?

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
They didn't invent anything.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Sounds like copy and from the looks of the leaks I've
seen for spin on it and it'salways something that's really
cool.
Maybe that'll be in thesoftware, because the hardware
leaks I've seen they're not it.
They look too thick, the bezelsare too big and the aspect

(01:14:17):
ratio on the front screen looksmore like the pixel 10 pro fold
which is coming out later thismonth from Google, and it's not.
I think this is.
Samsung's got the right frontcover screen aspect ratio.
I think they got it right.
Anyway, I think we'll probablyend there Next week.
I'd really like to get some Q&Afrom you guys now that we're

(01:14:37):
back.
I didn't have any this week,but I think me and Tori would
love to have some Q&A.
We tackled two big things thisweek because I didn't want to
try to get into a bunch of smallgranular stories since
obviously it's our first weekback.
We covered S25 Ultra, asix-month review, and S26 Ultra
leaks, so actually two thingsthere.
And then a third thing, the ZFold 7, kind of several weeks

(01:14:58):
impressions.
I've had it for like three anda half weeks.
I'll have a full review onSammy Guru, hopefully this
upcoming week, so you guys canread that Probably going to be
like 5,000 words.
I've been working on for awhile.
This is a big phone.
It's an important phone, so Ihave a lot of stuff to say, but
you guys got a preview of kindof what I'm going to say in the
review.
There's really not a lot tocomplain about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
So anyway, tor comments how does it feel to be
back in the seat, guys?
You know it honestly feels sogood to be back.
Uh, this was something I reallywould look forward to every
week.
Uh, just getting to talk withjeff and just, uh, you know,
create that community with youguys and you know a lot of
people have been wanting it andso we're just glad to be back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
We're bringing it back, yeah, and so until next
week, for the first time in along time.
Keep expanding your galaxy.

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