August 8, 2025 • 48 mins
"He had a stroke on me and now an ambulance had to come. Yeah, that's a true story." SantanaXXL has gone from being a viral indie performer to being the record breaking "big boy" on the block. Find out how a scene went from jaw locking to a stroke to highlighting the evolving landscape of adult entertainment and the need for inclusivity.
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Warning, the following program is not for the weak hearted,
those who are close minded in general.
You're scared to learn what's behind closed doors here at
Sapphires Airplay. I want you to pour the wine,
grab somebody that you want to hold on to, or better yet, get
the vibrations stimulated through your body.
Get ready for one halve of an orgasm in 54321.
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What is up on my sexy motherfuckers out there in
Radioland? It's your girl Sapphire.
And oh honey, let me just say I love giving a little preview,
you know, to my guests who come on to the show.
And if you are watching, of course you may see this
beautiful, delicious teddy bear of chocolate goodiness.
Yes honey, I'm talking about you.
Now we all know about There is asaucy Santana out in the Main
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Street. But honey, I want to introduce
you to Santana XXL and let me get the rowdy, you know, frat
boys of Sapphire's ear play, youknow, to give you some love too.
Because honey y'all, I think youare in for a big surprise.
Oh my goodness, Santana I, I, I'm so excited to have you on
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the show. First of all, I think you
reached out to me around AVN week and I was, I was shocked
first of all, because I'm like, it was my, it was like baby's
first AB NS, even though I've been in the industry behind the
scenes for about 15 years. You've been on the scene for
about 10 years. And I got to say your story is
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beautiful. It's like big boy dreams.
Like not even rag to riches. Some people might say come rag
to riches, like depending upon where we're coming from, right?
That's funny, but like you are really like becoming the big boy
on the block. And I'm like, finally, finally
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we got some big beautiful blackness on screen in the gay
world. Like you are really doing it.
Santana, Welcome to the show, baby.
Thank. You so much.
Thank you so much for. Having me yes, like I, I'm just
like, I feel like I know you andnot even like really knowing
you, but you just have this like, I don't know, you just
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have this charm to yourself and I feel like I just want to get
to know you more so, you know, let my earbuds know who you are.
You know, let let's chat, let's chat about this because you are
paving the way, baby. Thank you.
My name is Santana. I've been in the business for
like a good eleven years. I did my own, started with my
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own independent content, doing blow jobs for the car and all
that for 11 years before I even did any kind of like studio
scenes or anything like that. And you know, when I first did
it, my independent content, my scenes would go viral.
Like everything would go viral. Like I'm talking like 5 million
views, 10 million views, everything.
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Yeah, even before Only Fans was a thing.
Like I was on Pornhub X2 X videos doing my thing before
Only Fans came and I love what Ido, I really do.
You know what's crazy to me, it's like people don't really
understand independent porn really has like changed and
evolved over the years. But I really have to give it to
you like someone like yourself. It's very rare that you hear
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someone who's been doing independent porn as much as you
have done a very niche, you know, independent porn because
let's face it, we all like a little cruising, you know,
whether it's gay boys, straight girls, we all, we all like the
little, you know, and like the anonymity.
But also it's very unheard of for someone like yourself,
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especially representing such this big, beautiful audience
that you are now one of the biggest literal boys in pouring
into the mainstream side of porn.
You know, going with men.com, that's very big.
Yeah, I mean, the journey has definitely been hard.
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You know, from the beginning when I started doing independent
concert, I always got hate like always from my size and stuff
like that. And it was just so many people
that told me that they told me to quit in the beginning because
they said I was never going to make it in this business.
Even as a content creator, they didn't think I was going to make
it. And I've never seen anyone like
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me do any kind of porn or at that time produce any kind of
content or anything. So I wanted to prove to myself
that I can do it because one thing about me, if you tell me I
can't do something, I'm going toshow 1, you know what I mean?
And that was what I set out to do.
And when I came with men.com came and approached me, I was
shocked because I was like, are they really, What is this a
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joke? Because I'm really saying I
think it's a joke. And I'm like, why?
Why they really asking me to do this?
So they had asked me. I sat on this for a few days,
like for almost a week or two. I called some of my industry
friends and they was like, you should do it.
You should do it. I'm freaking like, I don't know.
I never did anything like that before.
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And I was like, it would be something different.
But it was main set. It was mainly not just for the
money. It was mainly so like I wanted
to represent my big boys, you know, yes, that was a big thing
for me. And I said guess when my the
California did my first scene with them and it blew up, like
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it really blew up. It really blew up.
And I was like, Oh my gosh. And they was so happy with it
that they asked me to do more, and that's what I've been doing.
You know, now you didn't you didsay that.
You know, it's been like a come up, a rough come up.
And I love how you just said that.
So just real and fluidly becausea lot of the times you don't
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hear those stories a lot in the adult industry.
Yet I seem to have this reputation to bring it out of
folks to be like, listen, let's talk about it.
Safe Space. And I have to say, like, you
really do represent an audience that I personally did not
realize in the gay world becauseI've only edited so much content
in the gay realm. And so, you know, I'm always
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seeing it from the black female perspective.
But I had no idea how much backlash as a black gay man you
have gotten just for the scenes as a big beautiful performer or
like they say, big handsome man.Well, thank you so much.
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Well, it's like in gay porn, it's like the traditional body
standards. You have to be like the Fed or
the team or you have to be the 6packs in the ABS.
It's looked down on in the gay community, in the gay community,
gay male community, to be a plussize person, you know what I
mean? Which is outrageous because,
like honey, I'm sorry, coming from here in Cali, you know, in
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we hope I'm always seeing a lot of like bears and my little like
the teddy bears and whatever youwant to call it as it like
listen, Hun, I'm I'm bisexual have.
You ever heard of them say no fashion, no films?
Yes. Baby fan.
And that's how they look at me. And then it's like it's crazy.
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And the backlash I get is insanebecause I get death threats.
I've gotten death threats like people wishing me to.
Yeah. And I battled that from the very
beginning. Like people don't know.
Like I battled that from the very beginning when I first
started. Content.
Don't bother me now. The shit don't bother me now
because I'm so used to it. I'm so numb to it.
I'm always ready when somebody is always even attacking me and
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stuff like that. But it's just always, it's
always that like if I put out a new scene with someone, it's
always somebody attacking me or wishing me dead or somebody said
that they was going to kill me and all kinds of it.
It's it's insane. And my whole thing is this, you
know, when it comes to porn, people have many different
fantasies and desires of what they like there.
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There are plenty of other modelsthat you can go and watch.
You don't have to be stuck on me.
You can go and watch. There's plenty of people you can
go and watch, but y'all, y'all choose to be focused on me.
Thank you. At the same time, if you don't
want to watch me, go watch somebody the fuck else.
Like it's not even like it's, it's just, it's insane like
something. Is Oh my.
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You know what's crazy though? It's like BBWS even I just had
Lasha Lane, another BBW black actress.
You know, we were talking about the backlash that she was
receiving on her come up. Like you coming up on, you know,
10 years or actually, no, she's had a career over 20 years now,
but she, you know, did the wholelike come back in the industry
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And it's just crazy how you see the love for BBW women, yet
there's still like the black BBWS.
It's everybody's secret. No one wants to love them on
camera as a skinny person. But back, you know, behind the
scenes, Oh, give me all that curve relishness, all that.
And then like you said, and thenyou, you know, you see it in gay
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porn. I'm like, wait a second, hold
up. I know a lot of people, they
love to smack a little cheeks with a little bit of meat.
And maybe say the same thing because this it be some
performers like they be like because everybody assumes they
assumes that when it comes to like bigger performance or
whatever, they assume that we pay for collaborations or we do
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this or the only way we got withthis person is because we paid
for this that I ain't paid for shit.
They came to me to ask the collab with me.
Yeah, that's what y'all don't know.
But The thing is sometimes some performance and this is the
truth. They'll lie, they'll be in front
of your face and say something. But when they get their friends
and shit, they'll lie and be like, oh, they paid you to do
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this video and all this bullshit.
I'm like that. It's it's the fake ass energy
though. That, you know, it's crazy.
It's the, I'm, I'm gonna keep saying it's crazy because it
also, you know, ties into the hip hop row.
You know, everybody loves a big black girl, a big black, you
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know, big curvy person behind closed doors.
But then all of a sudden, like Isaid, Drake opened up the
floodgates saying I love BBW therap world.
All of a sudden we're like get bigger booties, eat a little
more. And I feel like in the gay world
you still have that, except, youknow, it's the rappers are in
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the DMS. Santana XLI have to ask are
rappers in your DMS? Be honest.
Oh. Yes, I have had a few some
actors, I even had a few boxes. I'm sorry.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Boxers.
Hold up. Now hold.
OK, honey. OK, OK.
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See. OK.
So I'm. Oh, look, look at me.
I'm already dumping the things like dropping the weed.
All this, you know, I'm I don't have to ask like you don't even
have to do details. I like to do code names around
here. We like to just drop a little
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droplets and people can you know?
So without really saying name but maybe sprinkling it one
person that you would think likethere is no way in hell that
this person is in my DMS who wasin the DM and flew you out the
whole night. I got to give a give a fake
name. You said fake name, right?
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I mean, you can give real names,honey.
I'm all about it. I love listening.
Listen, if everybody knows on Sapphire's their play, if you
heard it, I didn't say shit. I didn't coerce this, nothing.
I'm going. To say I'm going to say the team
that they played on, if they played for the Spurs.
OK, so I'm not a basketball person, but please keep going.
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I'm just. Going to say the spars.
That's it. If I'm saying the team name
right, I don't really watch sports like that, but somebody
would be. Smart.
And was it worth it? That was a real shot.
That was a real shot. That was a while ago, though.
But yeah, it'd be famous people in our deals.
But that's the thing about when,when you're in this type of work
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and people see you on the Internet and you got a lot of
following people watching and stuff like that.
It's not uncommon for, you know,famous people or celebrities to
be in your DM. No 'cause they watch our stuff.
They just very discreet about it.
You know what? I.
Mean that's what I love. Like I'd rather have the stars
just come out in the open. Like we're all people at the end
of the day, like you and I, we're just people.
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We bleed. It's just you have a larger
following, a larger platform or some people say you know more to
risk or more to lose. And I'm like, why?
Fuck that? You're a normal human being who
has needs. You got needs.
I mean, it was hard for me. It was hard for me to keep a
platform now like cause what areI have like 10 Twitter pages now
I'm almost at 1,000,000 followers.
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But now it's hard to keep up. It's hard to keep like a social
media account because you know, you got to deal with the haters
always trying to mass support and all kinds of shit.
And then you got, you got other performance.
They'd be jealous and all and give you dirty looks.
This is great. People don't realize that
sometimes the adult industry, even just entertainment
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industry, it could be very high school, you know?
Have you ever had those moments where you're just like, I wish I
could just take all this back? Like would you take it all back
or would you just want to like if there's anything in this
industry? Yeah.
Listen, I think for me, I think,I think when it comes to
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performance, it's all a part of the journey, all a part of the
journey. Like, you know, the lows, the
high, you know, it's all part ofthe journey.
I'm not complaining. I love everything that I do.
Yeah, there's going to be peoplethat some performers that give
me dirty looks like, what are you doing?
Because it's definitely been performers that have done that
to me. But I I don't give a fuck.
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I don't give a fuck what no bitch got to say about me.
I don't give a fuck what anybodygot to say about my body.
This, that, and the third bitch is here.
What the fuck you going to do? Yes.
So like my whole thing is, it doesn't, it doesn't bother me.
I don't regret anything. It pisses me off though.
It just pisses me off of how caddy performers can be like.
You really don't know until awards happen.
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In my face, though, they don't like like they don't say it in
my face like they smile on my face like some most people smile
on my face. But you can tell I'm not a dumb
bitch like I know when a bitch don't you know when it but
somebody don't like you, you know how it is and shit like
they already feel jealous. They feel like you get more than
them in all kinds of shape, but.Yeah, and that's why it just, it
makes me mad because first of all, like adult stars in
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general, regardless of what category you're in, let's be
honest, we are all ostracized because we speak about and do
things that make people uncomfortable.
Why is it? Why is sex uncomfortable?
That's a whole different topic. But at the same time, it's like
you would think that everybody would just come together, not
just literally, but, you know, figurely come together.
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Like I said, my first AB NS experience this year.
I don't know. I've said it before, I don't
know if I'll ever go back to theawards show, to be honest.
I don't think. I don't think.
This was my second time. Going OK, so I don't know about
I don't know how you overcome your like, do you?
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Yes, I have. I have mad yes, I have mad
social anxiety. And I know that sounds weird as
someone who's in radio. I've gone a lot of concerts, red
carpets and all that. But as I've gotten older, it's
just like, I really hate people.I'm so kind of in that state.
But you know, to be honest with you, although I've been in this
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business for a long time and stuff more so independently, I
would get nominated for an award, but I never go to the
award show. And the reason why I didn't go
to the war show because my social anxiety, I just don't
like to be around crowds of people.
And when I started getting nominated for things, I made
some friends within the industryand they helped me overcome it a
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little bit. They, they walked the red carpet
with me and, you know, help me and stuff like that.
And, and I wanted to get out there a lot more.
I wanted to prove to myself thatI can do it and help me, you
know, somewhat get over my social anxiety and stuff like
that. Sometimes my social anxiety
would be so bad and my speaking would be so bad and terrible and
shit. But once I make a make a choice
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that I'm going to do something, I'm going to be like, Oh fuck,
I'm going, I'm not going back out of it.
I'm just going to go ahead and do it.
Whatever it's going to be, wherever the outcome is, I'm
just going to do it. And, you know, but I think it's
gotten better now, but I'm like throwing myself in it, you know,
because for a long time I didn'tgo to any industry events
because of that. Yeah, I didn't go for, and I've
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been nominated for, for like 27 awards.
And I did not go to many of those award shows in the
beginning at all. Yeah, this was my first year,
like ever going. I was always working behind the
scenes, doing remote broadcast when I was still working for
Playboy and Vivid. But like, going to the award
show this year, like, like you, it's like you get nominated, you
have to go. And like my fiance made my dress
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and it was so good to see everybody I've worked with over
the years, but the social, like everybody just saw it on my
face. Like the ones who know me, they
were like, oh, you really came out the house though.
I might, I might. You know, it's like last night I
was supposed this. By the way, everybody, this is
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prerecorded. This is me just saying it for
the record, the AVN house party was the other night last night
and honey, I went to go hang outwith my whole friends at a
house. Instead, I was like, I just want
to hang out with my actual like polyamorous whole tribe and just
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do that, you know, and it would have been nice, but I was still
just like, I don't want to get dressed up and all that, you
know, and then the fact to go alone, you know, I just, it's
the fact of going alone. I'm I want to win with.
You, if you ever go to any of those parties or something, you
need a companion. I'll go 'cause I need a
companion too. There we go.
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We'll go together. And it's funny, 'cause like
everybody's like, stop, just go with me.
And I'm like, I know, but I don't like to be that bird, you
know what I mean? You don't like to be the burden
to call that person to be like, come with me.
Can we can we do this together? I have no problem with it.
Could you please come with me? I have no problem with it at
all. I.
Was like, can you please go to this party with me?
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I, you know, lady, she's a nomination and she went with me.
She met me there and everything.She made me feel comfortable,
but she got me fucked up too. And she had me drink my kind of
shit. Like she kept giving me drinks,
drinks, drinks, drinks. And don't let me get an edible
because if I get an edible. Baby, it's over.
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It's. Over.
Listen, you Start learning all. I'm about to drop some gems.
There's certain people in the industry you just know you can't
smoke with, can't drink with. Misty Stone is one of them.
Misty, I love you, but you know I can't be drinking with you
ever. I ever, ever you.
I'll smoke with you. I do I.
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Really do. But I'm going to go.
I'm going to go this year. Do it like next year.
Yes, because this was my second time that I went and I didn't
think I was going to win and I left with two awards.
Honey, yes you did. And you looked fabulous and you
made history. You made some history that
night. Let's talk about that.
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Let's talk about that. Wow.
I mean, it was a big deal. Like it was a big thing for me.
I didn't think I was going to win an award because I was
nominated the year before and I didn't, I didn't win, but it was
controversy around that last year because of the category.
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But. Let's actually let's talk about
that category because some people know and some people
don't. So let's talk about that
category and and the controversythat leads up to this victory, I
should say. So in that category that I was
nominated for last year, it was called best bear or favorite
bear or whatever. And most people don't know bear
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is like the category for like more so bigger Harry like that.
And it was controversy because it was people that was nominated
in that category that most fans didn't think deserved to be
nominated in that category. And it was a big thing.
And for people who won, the person that won, they was, they
didn't like that too much because they didn't think that
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was in that category. And then when we was in the
award show and that person won, they kept screaming my name, the
whole, yeah, they were screamingmy name.
And I said I'm like. Oh.
My God. But yeah, it was controversy
around there for a little bit. Yeah, so getting this win, you
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know, Fast forward to now, it's like that was a full circle
moment. And the crazy thing is I wasn't
even going to go. I wasn't even going.
I was not going to go. Because sometimes I get in those
spaces where I'll I'll fly out somewhere to go to the event and
then when it's time for the event, I'll be like, I'm not
going. And then I have to myself up to
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go. The same thing happened with
Urban X because I want to Urban X last year to last summer, last
August too. And I was not going to go like I
really was not going to. I wasn't going to go at all
because I just didn't think I was going to win at all because
I've never because what people don't understand, there's never
been a plus sized boy to ever win these kind of awards in in
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gay categories. You know what I mean?
So I I didn't think that I was going to be able to walk out
with a war and win. Like I just didn't.
I just didn't see that happening.
For me, I was happy to be nominated and it was, it was an
honor, but I didn't think that Iwas going to actually win.
It's crazy. That it's wild that when you say
that again, you think about it and I'm looking at the history
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too. It's why did it take this long?
And even just because it, like you said before, I think in a
previous interview, the categories, it's like it's very
limited. The categories are very limiting
or it's very just fanbase. It's never the official.
And then when you put it into the regular AB NS&X biz awards,
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there's no category for even a straight man of your body type
at all. But we celebrate the women or we
say we celebrate, but there's still those controversies.
Again, listen to the LA Chalane episode, y'all.
Lots of tea on that one if. It's it's, it's just crazy like
even in studio porn, like there has never in 50 years, in 50
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years of porn media, there has never been a plus size boy that
ever shoot for a major studio. And in 50 years since gay porn
media started, there has never been.
And my thing is though, I don't understand why people would be
upset about me being in there. I'm breaking.
I'm making history. Like what?
Not to mention. Not to mention Pornhub just did
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their their gay statistics. As much as I don't like to quote
Pornhub, I mean, they're they'rethe only ones that really give
the good insight. But let's be real black and like
black gay and big Dick. Those are your top three right
there in the gay side of porn right now.
And if you were to flip it, it'salways big black Dick, Ebony
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black. So something's going on, y'all?
Something's going on and I have to give.
It to men.com because you know, men.com right now currently is
the only gay points to do that'sreally trying to they're really
trying to be more inclusive and include bigger bodies and
different body types and and stuff like that.
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You know and there's no other studio really that's really in
gay porn that's really like the one that they only just want the
muscle and the twink guys and and all that like it's they they
don't think we can sell. They don't think that bigger
bodies or, or that they don't think we can sell.
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They don't think we profitable. They don't think we can bring it
in the audience. They don't think that's just how
they look at us. They think we're undesirable and
that we're just not going to bring themselves.
And I'm like, that's bullshit. Look at me by myself.
You know what I mean? Like I've been doing independent
content for this long by myself,no studio backing at all.
And I've been nominated for manyawards and won four.
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And so for you to sit there for them to say that bigger boys and
stuff came out, be profitable and sell, it's bullshit.
And I would love to see and I know it's coming.
I know it's coming. I would love to see other big
boys in porn if they want to move it.
You know. What I mean, I would love to see
it. I really would.
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I would. Yeah.
No, I. Agree and you know, I want to
see more big boys just in general getting more regular
roles in general. I love, you know, shout out to
you know, Rihanna with the savage fancy line when she
started really showing all typesof body types.
I quote it all the time with thelingerie and getting big boy
models out there. Yes, I wore.
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I wore one of the I wore one of the fiddy stuff in my shoe in my
video. I've seen it.
I've seen. It and I was just like, yes,
yes, honey, I wear right. There.
I'm like, I really want to see more of this.
I really do. Because like you said, people
like a big person, people like abig boy.
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I used to say maybe lying, maybe.
Lying like they acting like theydon't like you know damn well
you like this. You'd be all in my deals asking
for it. Stop playing in front of your
friends and say you know you're like a big boy in a big world.
Like come on now. You know, I got to ask.
I got to talk about the dating life.
So I have to say one of my friends bless her and she's
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celibate, but on, you know, the gay sides.
And she said to me, they said they were like, look, it has
nothing. My virginity has nothing to do
with the fact that I don't want sex.
It's just when I'm on Grinder and the first thing you're going
to show me is your butt hole. Oh my God.
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Like what the fuck? And I was like, wait a.
Second, I'm banned off a grinder.
I wouldn't even keep a grinder. Why'd you get banned?
Because I did. Anything.
It was because like, people had made fake pages of me in the
past. Damn.
Grinder. And I guess when they made fake
pages of me, they was harassed from people or whatever spent
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about my girl and then people thinking it was me.
So every time I try to get on Grinder it's like, oh banned.
It's crazy. But the crazy thing is they show
my poor advertisement on there all about their.
Advertisements. Come up on Jack and grinder.
But yeah, I can't make a Jack and grinder.
Like, come on. It's crazy.
It's crazy. It sounds like you need to get.
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Some checks honey because. You can spend my.
Confuse that I. Do they be advertised on those
on those platforms? And I'm like, so I get to see
all this shit, but I can't even get on Grinder or Jack.
That shit is crazy. You know what you have to do.
You know what you got to do? Just just put a picture of your
booty hole and just say the Santana.
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I haven't. Been on there.
I haven't been on those platforms in so long.
I know that you probably changedmy meal.
Oh my God. So would you say dating?
For you right now, is it? Has it been easy?
Hard like? I'm seeing someone, I mean.
It's not hard. It's not hard to wait, wait,
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wait. Okay, okay, okay, it's, it's not
hard, but it's hard. It's it's hard for like it's
hard for like the other person, especially if they're not in the
business. You know what?
Because when people don't understand, like when you're
dating someone that's not in thebusiness, they don't understand
how it is when you're dating somebody that's in porn, like,
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you know what I mean? And like when you do porn, they
feel like, Oh well, it's a free pass to go out for them to be
able to do whatever they want todo and shit like that.
I said Nah because what I do is business.
It's to bring money in. You trying to go do that shit
for fun, that ain't going to fly.
If you're going to do all that and go try to fuck somebody
else, you got to go get our onlyfans or something.
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You got to be doing something tobring.
That's going to bring some moneyin.
Because what I do is business. I had no emotional attachments
to any of the men that I film with.
Any of the guy I film with. I have no emotional attachments
to them. It's strictly business at the
end of the day. When I come home, my my deal is
with my guy. You know what I'm paying, but
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I'm dating them or whatever. So would you say?
Outside, like, you know, when you're not Santana XXL, your
real name, you would say you're just the monogamous being.
Yeah. Or would you say monogamish?
I mean this is not me like. I mean, for me, OK, if I'm in a
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relationship, I'm only fucking fucking that person, OK?
OK, you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean, there are some
people, there are some people that, you know, they, they, they
go with everybody. They like, they fuck everybody
except, but no. But like me, I ain't nothing
wrong with that. It ain't nothing wrong with
that. But for me, like if I'm dealing
with one person, it's just goingto be me, that one person.
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But when it comes to this is andfilming and stuff, that's just
what it is. That's what it is.
It's funny how you just said those people because you know, I
am polyamorous and people you know don't seem to understand.
I don't know. It's funny.
I have asked myself if I were toever, if I were to ever go into
porn like full blown give you guys like the Sapphire special,
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I can't that for many different reasons, I can't do it.
People want to see me busting wide open.
I'm like I can never, but I don't know if I would ever.
You should you should like you don't do you don't do content
like you. No, I I've only.
Edited. I've only done the porn side of
radio and just editing content for for some studios.
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That's it. Yeah, I've always been behind
the scenes. I have always been behind the
scenes and just directing people, you know, doing their
thing. But people have asked me all the
time. They're like, stop, you should
get into it. The voice alone.
I'm like, I can't, I can't do it.
I give you all so much credit. I think it would be really.
Good, I give you. Guys, so much credit in the
world, so much credit. But I think it would actually
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change the way me being polyamorous, to be honest.
I think I would become monogamous.
It's weird as hell. When I think about it.
I might be like, I would turn probably monogamous and probably
not have any of my partners. They're listening.
I'm like my man's listening in the back over here and yeah, I
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don't know, like. I mean, it's harder that I mean,
it is hard for hard for some people.
I think it's easier when you're dating.
If you date somebody that's in the business with you, like if
you somebody like if you know, you date another porn star or
whatever the case is, it's easier because they both
understand. But like, you know, but if you
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date somebody that's on the outside, they like they get
insecure. You got some people that gets
insecure or. They can go and fuck.
Anybody else like it's a free pass and stuff?
I'm like this is a job, this is a business for me.
I don't Yeah. And people.
Don't understand that. It's so wild to me because, you
know, I talked to a lot of starsand, you know, get to, you know,
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familiarize and talk to some friends.
And the ones that you think are the ones that are free and
single, honey, they are monogamous to hell off camera,
not doing at least what you think they're doing.
And it's a beautiful thing. But it does take a very special
person if you are not in this realm at all, if you are not in
this realm at all like they. Think they just think we just
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whores like we just out here. Don't get me wrong but like
everybody that do porn are not whores man.
Like, come on now, they they notall would you say?
You're, I call myself a selective hoe.
Would you say now you're a selective hoe, especially like
with your scenes or you still just like I'm going to be a hoe
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for whatever it is? I mean, I'm a hoe.
This is a check. I'll do it.
You want me to suck 10 Dicks? I'll do it like what you want me
to. I don't have no problem with
doing it OK. For all the people out there,
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like you just said, I'll do 10 Dicks.
I heard in another interview you're busting 10 loads a day.
Honey, what is the secret? Because I'm over here.
You give me locked job. OK, I'm thinking 10.
Two Dicks is enough for me. And I'm like pussy different
pussy different like 10 Dicks, 10 Dicks.
That's a. Lot of yeah, you know, it's a
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special talent. It's a special talent.
You know it is your neck do be hurting this shit like like you,
you need a neck like it's crazy.Like I can't even go in the car
long anymore. That's how I know I'm getting
older because now when I try to bend over to suck Dick, it's
like oh, I get a Crick in my neck.
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I only could go for so long. I can't do I can't do a whole
hour in the car sucking Dick down.
I can't do it anymore. I used to do 3 hours.
I ain't gonna lie. I used to do 3 hours but I can't
do it no more. Oh honey, Oh my God, can we?
Low key, can we can we? There's got to be a way we can
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normalize this because I really think about y'all and how you
put yourselves in some acrobaticmoves and you for a big boy,
you, you got your acrobatics. I don't know what the fuck you
be doing. What?
What is the secret? I pay for that shit the next
day. That shit.
Oh my God. Like when I say back me her and
lazy her every time I do a fucking shit, I pay for it the
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next day. I swear to God I do.
I pay for that shit. So listen.
Go and support y'all Listen, support your damn porn stars.
They may be breaking necks for you.
Literally breaking Dick. I really do.
Like, people don't understand the sacrifice.
I just sacrifices me. But yeah.
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Oh yeah. It's I, I, I can tell I love it.
I love it. And like hearing the stories is
I'm always like, give me the warstories, you know, telling
people I've had to RIP, you know, somebody's sponge out for
them because they couldn't afterseeing I've done that.
So I can't even imagine like what is what is one of the most
memorable? No, not memorable.
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Let's just talk about one of theworst scenes ever that you were
just like, I just had to get through it.
But like never fucking again. I can never do this.
What? Was the worst scene the worst
scene? Damn, 'cause I could have seen
where somebody had a stroke on me.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Back up, I've had a fool with.
Somebody shitting on me so I've had a scene me pissed all the
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time, but but I've had things like that, but you know that I
guess that would be that ones you OK That's.
How I started. That's how I first went by.
You didn't know that. Like, you know, I just sucked
the guy off and he had a stroke on me, had a stroke on me and
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I'm in the air and the ambulancehad to come.
Yeah, that's a true story, OK. You take the, you know, wow, I'm
over here just gagged. I'm speechless because you
really, why'd you have to set the soul out of that poor man?
I didn't know. I really didn't know.
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I didn't even, I didn't realize he was having a stroke, but for
some reason he wasn't moving andhe wasn't even fronding.
And I looked at him and I can't.And I attacked him a little bit.
I'm like, are you OK? Are you OK?
And no, no response. And I'm like getting really
scared like it. And I call my one.
I call my one. They came and got him.
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And this was in the corner. I was in the corner.
So this is the gorilla. Scene like there's nobody else.
It's just you and this poor man.Oh my God.
And. The crazy thing is, and the
crazy thing is, he wasn't mad. He was not mad.
He was not upset. He wasn't, I don't even think he
was embarrassed because he, he hit me.
You have to do it again. He hit me up and do it again and
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I did it again and I did it again.
He didn't have a stroke. Good.
A little bit prepared. So wait with the possibilities
of what could happen. But like, yeah, yeah, that was
crazy. And then I had another person
that shitted his soul when I sucked his Dick and shit like
that. Wait, wait.
Wait wait, so was it even like you didn't fuck him in the ass,
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he just. I had people, a lot of the guys
that I sucked like that, I did videos with, a lot of them was
very sensitive. Like I've had guys that they
will pull their Dick out and I suck their Dick for five seconds
and ain't nothing. And a lot of guys end up
screaming and shit like that. Like, you know, guys be really,
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some guys be really sensitive. Except when they're big.
This Santana No. No, you cannot put yourself in
saying some people are sensitive.
No, you done, you done. You know, so like you so sucked
the fuck out of somebody then you literally suck the shit out
of somebody. I mean, I just.
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I love sucking Dick. I really, really do love sucking
Dick. It's real.
It's really a passion of mine. You know what?
I, I need to learn from you. I need to learn from you because
I love my man. I have two men in my life, but I
love my fiance and, you know, full discretion and he's, he
knows I'm going to say it. So like we like to write, you
know, like we, we like to, you know, you got to keep it fresh.
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So, you know, I asked him like, is there anything I can do
better for you? And he's like, your pussy is
amazing. However, I love how you suck
Dick, but can you please like, can you suck my Dick the way
that you love eating pussy? You have to love how to suck
Dick. That's the only way you're
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really going to be able to be good at him.
And it's so crazy because. He's the one that taught me how
to Deep Throat and swallow like it's crazy.
Like he has the perfect Dick forit.
And I was like, wait, I thought I'd like he's like, no, you like
to rush it. Like take your time.
Like when I see you eat pussy all the time and you never take
your time on the Dick like you do with some pussy.
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And I'm like, well, you did. You are fiance to a lesbian.
OK, let's let's be you suck big fast.
You suck. You suck Dick really fast.
I suck Dick fast. Like I'm like, listen, I'm like,
and then it's good. Like I know it's good.
Some people like that too, you know.
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There's some people that like itreally, really slow me
personally, me personally, I like fast head, I really do.
I like that but the only problemis the neck because the neck
hurts. Yes and like.
You said if you're on your knees, I'm feeling wet.
And juice, some people don't like that.
Like they don't like it really wet.
They don't like a lot of speed. It's loud.
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I'm like, I don't know how to doit.
No other way. That's the best way I do it.
I don't want to slop me, but that's the best way I do it.
Like it's crazy. So I don't want those people
though. Would you rather?
Would you rather have a partner that would prefer the bussy or
the Dick? I would say bussy like you need
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like, don't want the top. Like, that's what you mean.
Like, yeah, like. Yeah, you rather finish inning.
I'm a bottom, so like, yeah, I would prefer you would.
Prefer I have to ask like everybody's a little different
because again, my man, he prefers coming inside of me than
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coming in my mouth. So I'm like, well, you're the
one that says you'd rather finish in here, so why would you
not want me to take my time? But you know, everything I like
to do, though, I like to do likeeven when even when a guy comes,
I like to keep sucking it like Ilove to just keep on growing.
That's the kill. That's that's the kill right
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there when they bought the when they come, lock them arms around
them. So they want more.
Just be sucking and keep growingand Bobby ahead.
See, I'm nasty. I like to do the cleanup if I'm
not like too like burnt out. Like after you come inside me
let me taste each other like I love taking a little snack.
If you can't taste yourself after sex, that ain't love.
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I'm sorry that ain't mix your come together please like like
the guy I'm with. Now the guy I'm with now, the
guy I'm dating now, Oh my God, he's a, he's a eater.
I can't lose my best eater, can't lose my best eater.
Like he, he, he could eat some ass.
Like he could really eat some ass.
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Anything else? Like he's so good at it that I
don't even want anything else. Like you don't even have to give
me the Dick. You eat my ass.
Like I'm fine with that because it's so good.
See you can be. Polyamorous you can be
polyamorous because see you can have your boot, you can have
your primary ass eater. OK, then you get another partner
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to get those ass clap. You know the ass clapping.
Then you got you know your your your little Topper.
There you go boom full triangle boom.
You don't even have to go like the multiple fives.
Just go 3 boom one. 2/3. And then the next thing.
Like the scene I'm doing now is get ready to come out soon.
It's the same what this is the first time I've ever done it for
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like a major studio. But like I sat on a guy face.
I sat on a guy face and then I had to, he was just eating my
ass on the back while I was justsitting on his face and I was
just with my titties and shit like that that's coming out.
So I can't wait for that to drop.
But when can we look forward? To that scene, when can we look
forward for that one? Do you know well what are you
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guys going to? Release it.
I think they might release at the end of this month or they
might release it in the beginning of August.
Well, we will. Have this episode ready just in
time because this will be aroundthe towards the end of August or
towards the middle of August so y'all definitely have to check
out that scene. So you suffocating him?
I had fun. Making it, I really did.
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It's the same about somebody breaking to my house and trying
to steal my trophies and what better way and.
The burglar. The burglar fucks.
Me and I and and and I, he eat my ass with all kinds of stuff.
I'm excited for everybody to seethat.
See. Listen, people.
We need to regulate robberies that end with a nice good face
sitting, OK? Just like if you're going to rob
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something, rob this pussy. Rob this pussy please.
But you know, men.com is really like, really, they're pushing
the the whole body diverse thing.
You know, I just want to see more big boys in porn.
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And, you know, I do too. I.
Really do and Santana, I just can't wait to see what happens,
you know, as you continue flourishing and really spreading
this body, you know, body positivity and honey, I just
feel like I just I saw me a new bestie.
I don't know like I say this allthe time, but I'm just like
damn, you have me laugh. I've never laughed this hard
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through an entire interview and I'm just like, honey, I can't
wait to meet you in person. I.
Know we definitely do. Where are you based?
So I'm in LA. So you may see me for Urban X if
you're coming out. I don't think I'm, I'm, I'm
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because I know I'm nominated, but I don't think I'm going to
be. I don't think I'm going to win
because I won last year. I won that category last year.
And how many times do people multiply?
Like multi year one, Come on, let's be real, let's be real.
I might come, I know. I'm coming out to LA, OK?
You're coming out to. LA probably sometime next month,
but I don't. I haven't made-up my mind.
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If I was going to Urban, I told him I was coming, but I didn't
make up my mind. Well, I know we'll be in.
Communications and figure out something because the the
Santana sapphire little reunion yes the link up is going to
happen thank you well where can people find you get in touch
(45:43):
with you you know come see theseass just where can they see all
of it well you. Could I'm on Twitter which is
Santana XXLL LL3L's 3L's. Yeah.
That that's that's Twitter 3L's and then I'm on Instagram, which
is Santana XXLL one. That's my new Instagram because
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my other Instagram got suspended.
So I can never keep on Instagram.
So like hopefully I get to keep this one for a long period of
time, but we'll never know. No, the haters and shit again.
You can find me on those platforms.
I'm mainly active on Twitter though, but yeah, you can find
me on those platforms and stuff.Perfect.
Earbuds, you better go and go and check out the eggs because
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it's saucy, it's spicy, it's sexy, it's all that thing when.
You Google me when you Google me, me and him come up on the
same thing. The damn.
Time I'm like, Oh my. God, it's crazy.
I love saucy, but we are not thesame people.
And you know, the another crazy thing is I went to an award show
last year, you know, Autumn white people thought I was I'm
(46:54):
dead. They.
Thought I. Was really saucy.
I was like, you would have, ain't you the guy that didn't
use it? Like what the for real?
I'm like, no, that's not me. No, no, that's not me.
But they really thought that. They really thought that it was,
you know what? That just means if we're
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manifesting the like the collab,that's it.
A collab is going to happen one way or another.
One way or another is going to happen.
Y'all going to link up and something is going to happen and
I'm going to be all for it. Yes, You want to ask me?
No. I you know I'm about to wrap it.
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Yes. I love it.
No honey, I think we we covered it all.
Air buds, you know where to get in touch with at Miz Radio
Sapphire. That's MSRADIOSAPPHIRE.
And of course you know that safesex is the best hot sex.
Till next time, good night. That was the show all.
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What is up on my sexy motherfuckers out there in
Radioland? It's your girl Sapphire.
And oh honey, let me just say I love giving a little preview,
you know, to my guests who come on to the show.
And if you are watching, of course you may see this
beautiful, delicious teddy bear of chocolate goodiness.
Yes honey, I'm talking about you.
Now we all know about There is asaucy Santana out in the Main
(00:52):
Street. But honey, I want to introduce
you to Santana XXL and let me get the rowdy, you know, frat
boys of Sapphire's ear play, youknow, to give you some love too.
Because honey y'all, I think youare in for a big surprise.
Oh my goodness, Santana I, I, I'm so excited to have you on
(01:17):
the show. First of all, I think you
reached out to me around AVN week and I was, I was shocked
first of all, because I'm like, it was my, it was like baby's
first AB NS, even though I've been in the industry behind the
scenes for about 15 years. You've been on the scene for
about 10 years. And I got to say your story is
(01:39):
beautiful. It's like big boy dreams.
Like not even rag to riches. Some people might say come rag
to riches, like depending upon where we're coming from, right?
That's funny, but like you are really like becoming the big boy
on the block. And I'm like, finally, finally
(01:59):
we got some big beautiful blackness on screen in the gay
world. Like you are really doing it.
Santana, Welcome to the show, baby.
Thank. You so much.
Thank you so much for. Having me yes, like I, I'm just
like, I feel like I know you andnot even like really knowing
you, but you just have this like, I don't know, you just
(02:22):
have this charm to yourself and I feel like I just want to get
to know you more so, you know, let my earbuds know who you are.
You know, let let's chat, let's chat about this because you are
paving the way, baby. Thank you.
My name is Santana. I've been in the business for
like a good eleven years. I did my own, started with my
(02:43):
own independent content, doing blow jobs for the car and all
that for 11 years before I even did any kind of like studio
scenes or anything like that. And you know, when I first did
it, my independent content, my scenes would go viral.
Like everything would go viral. Like I'm talking like 5 million
views, 10 million views, everything.
(03:06):
Yeah, even before Only Fans was a thing.
Like I was on Pornhub X2 X videos doing my thing before
Only Fans came and I love what Ido, I really do.
You know what's crazy to me, it's like people don't really
understand independent porn really has like changed and
evolved over the years. But I really have to give it to
you like someone like yourself. It's very rare that you hear
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someone who's been doing independent porn as much as you
have done a very niche, you know, independent porn because
let's face it, we all like a little cruising, you know,
whether it's gay boys, straight girls, we all, we all like the
little, you know, and like the anonymity.
But also it's very unheard of for someone like yourself,
(03:50):
especially representing such this big, beautiful audience
that you are now one of the biggest literal boys in pouring
into the mainstream side of porn.
You know, going with men.com, that's very big.
Yeah, I mean, the journey has definitely been hard.
(04:11):
You know, from the beginning when I started doing independent
concert, I always got hate like always from my size and stuff
like that. And it was just so many people
that told me that they told me to quit in the beginning because
they said I was never going to make it in this business.
Even as a content creator, they didn't think I was going to make
it. And I've never seen anyone like
(04:31):
me do any kind of porn or at that time produce any kind of
content or anything. So I wanted to prove to myself
that I can do it because one thing about me, if you tell me I
can't do something, I'm going toshow 1, you know what I mean?
And that was what I set out to do.
And when I came with men.com came and approached me, I was
shocked because I was like, are they really, What is this a
(04:54):
joke? Because I'm really saying I
think it's a joke. And I'm like, why?
Why they really asking me to do this?
So they had asked me. I sat on this for a few days,
like for almost a week or two. I called some of my industry
friends and they was like, you should do it.
You should do it. I'm freaking like, I don't know.
I never did anything like that before.
(05:15):
And I was like, it would be something different.
But it was main set. It was mainly not just for the
money. It was mainly so like I wanted
to represent my big boys, you know, yes, that was a big thing
for me. And I said guess when my the
California did my first scene with them and it blew up, like
(05:35):
it really blew up. It really blew up.
And I was like, Oh my gosh. And they was so happy with it
that they asked me to do more, and that's what I've been doing.
You know, now you didn't you didsay that.
You know, it's been like a come up, a rough come up.
And I love how you just said that.
So just real and fluidly becausea lot of the times you don't
(05:56):
hear those stories a lot in the adult industry.
Yet I seem to have this reputation to bring it out of
folks to be like, listen, let's talk about it.
Safe Space. And I have to say, like, you
really do represent an audience that I personally did not
realize in the gay world becauseI've only edited so much content
in the gay realm. And so, you know, I'm always
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seeing it from the black female perspective.
But I had no idea how much backlash as a black gay man you
have gotten just for the scenes as a big beautiful performer or
like they say, big handsome man.Well, thank you so much.
(06:40):
Well, it's like in gay porn, it's like the traditional body
standards. You have to be like the Fed or
the team or you have to be the 6packs in the ABS.
It's looked down on in the gay community, in the gay community,
gay male community, to be a plussize person, you know what I
mean? Which is outrageous because,
like honey, I'm sorry, coming from here in Cali, you know, in
(07:03):
we hope I'm always seeing a lot of like bears and my little like
the teddy bears and whatever youwant to call it as it like
listen, Hun, I'm I'm bisexual have.
You ever heard of them say no fashion, no films?
Yes. Baby fan.
And that's how they look at me. And then it's like it's crazy.
(07:23):
And the backlash I get is insanebecause I get death threats.
I've gotten death threats like people wishing me to.
Yeah. And I battled that from the very
beginning. Like people don't know.
Like I battled that from the very beginning when I first
started. Content.
Don't bother me now. The shit don't bother me now
because I'm so used to it. I'm so numb to it.
I'm always ready when somebody is always even attacking me and
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stuff like that. But it's just always, it's
always that like if I put out a new scene with someone, it's
always somebody attacking me or wishing me dead or somebody said
that they was going to kill me and all kinds of it.
It's it's insane. And my whole thing is this, you
know, when it comes to porn, people have many different
fantasies and desires of what they like there.
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There are plenty of other modelsthat you can go and watch.
You don't have to be stuck on me.
You can go and watch. There's plenty of people you can
go and watch, but y'all, y'all choose to be focused on me.
Thank you. At the same time, if you don't
want to watch me, go watch somebody the fuck else.
Like it's not even like it's, it's just, it's insane like
something. Is Oh my.
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You know what's crazy though? It's like BBWS even I just had
Lasha Lane, another BBW black actress.
You know, we were talking about the backlash that she was
receiving on her come up. Like you coming up on, you know,
10 years or actually, no, she's had a career over 20 years now,
but she, you know, did the wholelike come back in the industry
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And it's just crazy how you see the love for BBW women, yet
there's still like the black BBWS.
It's everybody's secret. No one wants to love them on
camera as a skinny person. But back, you know, behind the
scenes, Oh, give me all that curve relishness, all that.
And then like you said, and thenyou, you know, you see it in gay
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porn. I'm like, wait a second, hold
up. I know a lot of people, they
love to smack a little cheeks with a little bit of meat.
And maybe say the same thing because this it be some
performers like they be like because everybody assumes they
assumes that when it comes to like bigger performance or
whatever, they assume that we pay for collaborations or we do
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this or the only way we got withthis person is because we paid
for this that I ain't paid for shit.
They came to me to ask the collab with me.
Yeah, that's what y'all don't know.
But The thing is sometimes some performance and this is the
truth. They'll lie, they'll be in front
of your face and say something. But when they get their friends
and shit, they'll lie and be like, oh, they paid you to do
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this video and all this bullshit.
I'm like that. It's it's the fake ass energy
though. That, you know, it's crazy.
It's the, I'm, I'm gonna keep saying it's crazy because it
also, you know, ties into the hip hop row.
You know, everybody loves a big black girl, a big black, you
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know, big curvy person behind closed doors.
But then all of a sudden, like Isaid, Drake opened up the
floodgates saying I love BBW therap world.
All of a sudden we're like get bigger booties, eat a little
more. And I feel like in the gay world
you still have that, except, youknow, it's the rappers are in
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the DMS. Santana XLI have to ask are
rappers in your DMS? Be honest.
Oh. Yes, I have had a few some
actors, I even had a few boxes. I'm sorry.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Boxers.
Hold up. Now hold.
OK, honey. OK, OK.
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See. OK.
So I'm. Oh, look, look at me.
I'm already dumping the things like dropping the weed.
All this, you know, I'm I don't have to ask like you don't even
have to do details. I like to do code names around
here. We like to just drop a little
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droplets and people can you know?
So without really saying name but maybe sprinkling it one
person that you would think likethere is no way in hell that
this person is in my DMS who wasin the DM and flew you out the
whole night. I got to give a give a fake
name. You said fake name, right?
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I mean, you can give real names,honey.
I'm all about it. I love listening.
Listen, if everybody knows on Sapphire's their play, if you
heard it, I didn't say shit. I didn't coerce this, nothing.
I'm going. To say I'm going to say the team
that they played on, if they played for the Spurs.
OK, so I'm not a basketball person, but please keep going.
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I'm just. Going to say the spars.
That's it. If I'm saying the team name
right, I don't really watch sports like that, but somebody
would be. Smart.
And was it worth it? That was a real shot.
That was a real shot. That was a while ago, though.
But yeah, it'd be famous people in our deals.
But that's the thing about when,when you're in this type of work
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and people see you on the Internet and you got a lot of
following people watching and stuff like that.
It's not uncommon for, you know,famous people or celebrities to
be in your DM. No 'cause they watch our stuff.
They just very discreet about it.
You know what? I.
Mean that's what I love. Like I'd rather have the stars
just come out in the open. Like we're all people at the end
of the day, like you and I, we're just people.
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We bleed. It's just you have a larger
following, a larger platform or some people say you know more to
risk or more to lose. And I'm like, why?
Fuck that? You're a normal human being who
has needs. You got needs.
I mean, it was hard for me. It was hard for me to keep a
platform now like cause what areI have like 10 Twitter pages now
I'm almost at 1,000,000 followers.
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But now it's hard to keep up. It's hard to keep like a social
media account because you know, you got to deal with the haters
always trying to mass support and all kinds of shit.
And then you got, you got other performance.
They'd be jealous and all and give you dirty looks.
This is great. People don't realize that
sometimes the adult industry, even just entertainment
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industry, it could be very high school, you know?
Have you ever had those moments where you're just like, I wish I
could just take all this back? Like would you take it all back
or would you just want to like if there's anything in this
industry? Yeah.
Listen, I think for me, I think,I think when it comes to
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performance, it's all a part of the journey, all a part of the
journey. Like, you know, the lows, the
high, you know, it's all part ofthe journey.
I'm not complaining. I love everything that I do.
Yeah, there's going to be peoplethat some performers that give
me dirty looks like, what are you doing?
Because it's definitely been performers that have done that
to me. But I I don't give a fuck.
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I don't give a fuck what no bitch got to say about me.
I don't give a fuck what anybodygot to say about my body.
This, that, and the third bitch is here.
What the fuck you going to do? Yes.
So like my whole thing is, it doesn't, it doesn't bother me.
I don't regret anything. It pisses me off though.
It just pisses me off of how caddy performers can be like.
You really don't know until awards happen.
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In my face, though, they don't like like they don't say it in
my face like they smile on my face like some most people smile
on my face. But you can tell I'm not a dumb
bitch like I know when a bitch don't you know when it but
somebody don't like you, you know how it is and shit like
they already feel jealous. They feel like you get more than
them in all kinds of shape, but.Yeah, and that's why it just, it
makes me mad because first of all, like adult stars in
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general, regardless of what category you're in, let's be
honest, we are all ostracized because we speak about and do
things that make people uncomfortable.
Why is it? Why is sex uncomfortable?
That's a whole different topic. But at the same time, it's like
you would think that everybody would just come together, not
just literally, but, you know, figurely come together.
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Like I said, my first AB NS experience this year.
I don't know. I've said it before, I don't
know if I'll ever go back to theawards show, to be honest.
I don't think. I don't think.
This was my second time. Going OK, so I don't know about
I don't know how you overcome your like, do you?
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Yes, I have. I have mad yes, I have mad
social anxiety. And I know that sounds weird as
someone who's in radio. I've gone a lot of concerts, red
carpets and all that. But as I've gotten older, it's
just like, I really hate people.I'm so kind of in that state.
But you know, to be honest with you, although I've been in this
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business for a long time and stuff more so independently, I
would get nominated for an award, but I never go to the
award show. And the reason why I didn't go
to the war show because my social anxiety, I just don't
like to be around crowds of people.
And when I started getting nominated for things, I made
some friends within the industryand they helped me overcome it a
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little bit. They, they walked the red carpet
with me and, you know, help me and stuff like that.
And, and I wanted to get out there a lot more.
I wanted to prove to myself thatI can do it and help me, you
know, somewhat get over my social anxiety and stuff like
that. Sometimes my social anxiety
would be so bad and my speaking would be so bad and terrible and
shit. But once I make a make a choice
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that I'm going to do something, I'm going to be like, Oh fuck,
I'm going, I'm not going back out of it.
I'm just going to go ahead and do it.
Whatever it's going to be, wherever the outcome is, I'm
just going to do it. And, you know, but I think it's
gotten better now, but I'm like throwing myself in it, you know,
because for a long time I didn'tgo to any industry events
because of that. Yeah, I didn't go for, and I've
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been nominated for, for like 27 awards.
And I did not go to many of those award shows in the
beginning at all. Yeah, this was my first year,
like ever going. I was always working behind the
scenes, doing remote broadcast when I was still working for
Playboy and Vivid. But like, going to the award
show this year, like, like you, it's like you get nominated, you
have to go. And like my fiance made my dress
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and it was so good to see everybody I've worked with over
the years, but the social, like everybody just saw it on my
face. Like the ones who know me, they
were like, oh, you really came out the house though.
I might, I might. You know, it's like last night I
was supposed this. By the way, everybody, this is
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prerecorded. This is me just saying it for
the record, the AVN house party was the other night last night
and honey, I went to go hang outwith my whole friends at a
house. Instead, I was like, I just want
to hang out with my actual like polyamorous whole tribe and just
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do that, you know, and it would have been nice, but I was still
just like, I don't want to get dressed up and all that, you
know, and then the fact to go alone, you know, I just, it's
the fact of going alone. I'm I want to win with.
You, if you ever go to any of those parties or something, you
need a companion. I'll go 'cause I need a
companion too. There we go.
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We'll go together. And it's funny, 'cause like
everybody's like, stop, just go with me.
And I'm like, I know, but I don't like to be that bird, you
know what I mean? You don't like to be the burden
to call that person to be like, come with me.
Can we can we do this together? I have no problem with it.
Could you please come with me? I have no problem with it at
all. I.
Was like, can you please go to this party with me?
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I, you know, lady, she's a nomination and she went with me.
She met me there and everything.She made me feel comfortable,
but she got me fucked up too. And she had me drink my kind of
shit. Like she kept giving me drinks,
drinks, drinks, drinks. And don't let me get an edible
because if I get an edible. Baby, it's over.
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It's. Over.
Listen, you Start learning all. I'm about to drop some gems.
There's certain people in the industry you just know you can't
smoke with, can't drink with. Misty Stone is one of them.
Misty, I love you, but you know I can't be drinking with you
ever. I ever, ever you.
I'll smoke with you. I do I.
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Really do. But I'm going to go.
I'm going to go this year. Do it like next year.
Yes, because this was my second time that I went and I didn't
think I was going to win and I left with two awards.
Honey, yes you did. And you looked fabulous and you
made history. You made some history that
night. Let's talk about that.
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Let's talk about that. Wow.
I mean, it was a big deal. Like it was a big thing for me.
I didn't think I was going to win an award because I was
nominated the year before and I didn't, I didn't win, but it was
controversy around that last year because of the category.
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But. Let's actually let's talk about
that category because some people know and some people
don't. So let's talk about that
category and and the controversythat leads up to this victory, I
should say. So in that category that I was
nominated for last year, it was called best bear or favorite
bear or whatever. And most people don't know bear
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is like the category for like more so bigger Harry like that.
And it was controversy because it was people that was nominated
in that category that most fans didn't think deserved to be
nominated in that category. And it was a big thing.
And for people who won, the person that won, they was, they
didn't like that too much because they didn't think that
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was in that category. And then when we was in the
award show and that person won, they kept screaming my name, the
whole, yeah, they were screamingmy name.
And I said I'm like. Oh.
My God. But yeah, it was controversy
around there for a little bit. Yeah, so getting this win, you
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know, Fast forward to now, it's like that was a full circle
moment. And the crazy thing is I wasn't
even going to go. I wasn't even going.
I was not going to go. Because sometimes I get in those
spaces where I'll I'll fly out somewhere to go to the event and
then when it's time for the event, I'll be like, I'm not
going. And then I have to myself up to
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go. The same thing happened with
Urban X because I want to Urban X last year to last summer, last
August too. And I was not going to go like I
really was not going to. I wasn't going to go at all
because I just didn't think I was going to win at all because
I've never because what people don't understand, there's never
been a plus sized boy to ever win these kind of awards in in
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gay categories. You know what I mean?
So I I didn't think that I was going to be able to walk out
with a war and win. Like I just didn't.
I just didn't see that happening.
For me, I was happy to be nominated and it was, it was an
honor, but I didn't think that Iwas going to actually win.
It's crazy. That it's wild that when you say
that again, you think about it and I'm looking at the history
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too. It's why did it take this long?
And even just because it, like you said before, I think in a
previous interview, the categories, it's like it's very
limited. The categories are very limiting
or it's very just fanbase. It's never the official.
And then when you put it into the regular AB NS&X biz awards,
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there's no category for even a straight man of your body type
at all. But we celebrate the women or we
say we celebrate, but there's still those controversies.
Again, listen to the LA Chalane episode, y'all.
Lots of tea on that one if. It's it's, it's just crazy like
even in studio porn, like there has never in 50 years, in 50
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years of porn media, there has never been a plus size boy that
ever shoot for a major studio. And in 50 years since gay porn
media started, there has never been.
And my thing is though, I don't understand why people would be
upset about me being in there. I'm breaking.
I'm making history. Like what?
Not to mention. Not to mention Pornhub just did
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their their gay statistics. As much as I don't like to quote
Pornhub, I mean, they're they'rethe only ones that really give
the good insight. But let's be real black and like
black gay and big Dick. Those are your top three right
there in the gay side of porn right now.
And if you were to flip it, it'salways big black Dick, Ebony
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black. So something's going on, y'all?
Something's going on and I have to give.
It to men.com because you know, men.com right now currently is
the only gay points to do that'sreally trying to they're really
trying to be more inclusive and include bigger bodies and
different body types and and stuff like that.
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You know and there's no other studio really that's really in
gay porn that's really like the one that they only just want the
muscle and the twink guys and and all that like it's they they
don't think we can sell. They don't think that bigger
bodies or, or that they don't think we can sell.
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They don't think we profitable. They don't think we can bring it
in the audience. They don't think that's just how
they look at us. They think we're undesirable and
that we're just not going to bring themselves.
And I'm like, that's bullshit. Look at me by myself.
You know what I mean? Like I've been doing independent
content for this long by myself,no studio backing at all.
And I've been nominated for manyawards and won four.
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And so for you to sit there for them to say that bigger boys and
stuff came out, be profitable and sell, it's bullshit.
And I would love to see and I know it's coming.
I know it's coming. I would love to see other big
boys in porn if they want to move it.
You know. What I mean, I would love to see
it. I really would.
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I would. Yeah.
No, I. Agree and you know, I want to
see more big boys just in general getting more regular
roles in general. I love, you know, shout out to
you know, Rihanna with the savage fancy line when she
started really showing all typesof body types.
I quote it all the time with thelingerie and getting big boy
models out there. Yes, I wore.
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I wore one of the I wore one of the fiddy stuff in my shoe in my
video. I've seen it.
I've seen. It and I was just like, yes,
yes, honey, I wear right. There.
I'm like, I really want to see more of this.
I really do. Because like you said, people
like a big person, people like abig boy.
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I used to say maybe lying, maybe.
Lying like they acting like theydon't like you know damn well
you like this. You'd be all in my deals asking
for it. Stop playing in front of your
friends and say you know you're like a big boy in a big world.
Like come on now. You know, I got to ask.
I got to talk about the dating life.
So I have to say one of my friends bless her and she's
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celibate, but on, you know, the gay sides.
And she said to me, they said they were like, look, it has
nothing. My virginity has nothing to do
with the fact that I don't want sex.
It's just when I'm on Grinder and the first thing you're going
to show me is your butt hole. Oh my God.
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Like what the fuck? And I was like, wait a.
Second, I'm banned off a grinder.
I wouldn't even keep a grinder. Why'd you get banned?
Because I did. Anything.
It was because like, people had made fake pages of me in the
past. Damn.
Grinder. And I guess when they made fake
pages of me, they was harassed from people or whatever spent
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about my girl and then people thinking it was me.
So every time I try to get on Grinder it's like, oh banned.
It's crazy. But the crazy thing is they show
my poor advertisement on there all about their.
Advertisements. Come up on Jack and grinder.
But yeah, I can't make a Jack and grinder.
Like, come on. It's crazy.
It's crazy. It sounds like you need to get.
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Some checks honey because. You can spend my.
Confuse that I. Do they be advertised on those
on those platforms? And I'm like, so I get to see
all this shit, but I can't even get on Grinder or Jack.
That shit is crazy. You know what you have to do.
You know what you got to do? Just just put a picture of your
booty hole and just say the Santana.
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I haven't. Been on there.
I haven't been on those platforms in so long.
I know that you probably changedmy meal.
Oh my God. So would you say dating?
For you right now, is it? Has it been easy?
Hard like? I'm seeing someone, I mean.
It's not hard. It's not hard to wait, wait,
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wait. Okay, okay, okay, it's, it's not
hard, but it's hard. It's it's hard for like it's
hard for like the other person, especially if they're not in the
business. You know what?
Because when people don't understand, like when you're
dating someone that's not in thebusiness, they don't understand
how it is when you're dating somebody that's in porn, like,
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you know what I mean? And like when you do porn, they
feel like, Oh well, it's a free pass to go out for them to be
able to do whatever they want todo and shit like that.
I said Nah because what I do is business.
It's to bring money in. You trying to go do that shit
for fun, that ain't going to fly.
If you're going to do all that and go try to fuck somebody
else, you got to go get our onlyfans or something.
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You got to be doing something tobring.
That's going to bring some moneyin.
Because what I do is business. I had no emotional attachments
to any of the men that I film with.
Any of the guy I film with. I have no emotional attachments
to them. It's strictly business at the
end of the day. When I come home, my my deal is
with my guy. You know what I'm paying, but
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I'm dating them or whatever. So would you say?
Outside, like, you know, when you're not Santana XXL, your
real name, you would say you're just the monogamous being.
Yeah. Or would you say monogamish?
I mean this is not me like. I mean, for me, OK, if I'm in a
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relationship, I'm only fucking fucking that person, OK?
OK, you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean, there are some
people, there are some people that, you know, they, they, they
go with everybody. They like, they fuck everybody
except, but no. But like me, I ain't nothing
wrong with that. It ain't nothing wrong with
that. But for me, like if I'm dealing
with one person, it's just goingto be me, that one person.
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But when it comes to this is andfilming and stuff, that's just
what it is. That's what it is.
It's funny how you just said those people because you know, I
am polyamorous and people you know don't seem to understand.
I don't know. It's funny.
I have asked myself if I were toever, if I were to ever go into
porn like full blown give you guys like the Sapphire special,
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I can't that for many different reasons, I can't do it.
People want to see me busting wide open.
I'm like I can never, but I don't know if I would ever.
You should you should like you don't do you don't do content
like you. No, I I've only.
Edited. I've only done the porn side of
radio and just editing content for for some studios.
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That's it. Yeah, I've always been behind
the scenes. I have always been behind the
scenes and just directing people, you know, doing their
thing. But people have asked me all the
time. They're like, stop, you should
get into it. The voice alone.
I'm like, I can't, I can't do it.
I give you all so much credit. I think it would be really.
Good, I give you. Guys, so much credit in the
world, so much credit. But I think it would actually
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change the way me being polyamorous, to be honest.
I think I would become monogamous.
It's weird as hell. When I think about it.
I might be like, I would turn probably monogamous and probably
not have any of my partners. They're listening.
I'm like my man's listening in the back over here and yeah, I
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don't know, like. I mean, it's harder that I mean,
it is hard for hard for some people.
I think it's easier when you're dating.
If you date somebody that's in the business with you, like if
you somebody like if you know, you date another porn star or
whatever the case is, it's easier because they both
understand. But like, you know, but if you
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date somebody that's on the outside, they like they get
insecure. You got some people that gets
insecure or. They can go and fuck.
Anybody else like it's a free pass and stuff?
I'm like this is a job, this is a business for me.
I don't Yeah. And people.
Don't understand that. It's so wild to me because, you
know, I talked to a lot of starsand, you know, get to, you know,
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familiarize and talk to some friends.
And the ones that you think are the ones that are free and
single, honey, they are monogamous to hell off camera,
not doing at least what you think they're doing.
And it's a beautiful thing. But it does take a very special
person if you are not in this realm at all, if you are not in
this realm at all like they. Think they just think we just
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whores like we just out here. Don't get me wrong but like
everybody that do porn are not whores man.
Like, come on now, they they notall would you say?
You're, I call myself a selective hoe.
Would you say now you're a selective hoe, especially like
with your scenes or you still just like I'm going to be a hoe
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for whatever it is? I mean, I'm a hoe.
This is a check. I'll do it.
You want me to suck 10 Dicks? I'll do it like what you want me
to. I don't have no problem with
doing it OK. For all the people out there,
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like you just said, I'll do 10 Dicks.
I heard in another interview you're busting 10 loads a day.
Honey, what is the secret? Because I'm over here.
You give me locked job. OK, I'm thinking 10.
Two Dicks is enough for me. And I'm like pussy different
pussy different like 10 Dicks, 10 Dicks.
That's a. Lot of yeah, you know, it's a
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special talent. It's a special talent.
You know it is your neck do be hurting this shit like like you,
you need a neck like it's crazy.Like I can't even go in the car
long anymore. That's how I know I'm getting
older because now when I try to bend over to suck Dick, it's
like oh, I get a Crick in my neck.
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I only could go for so long. I can't do I can't do a whole
hour in the car sucking Dick down.
I can't do it anymore. I used to do 3 hours.
I ain't gonna lie. I used to do 3 hours but I can't
do it no more. Oh honey, Oh my God, can we?
Low key, can we can we? There's got to be a way we can
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normalize this because I really think about y'all and how you
put yourselves in some acrobaticmoves and you for a big boy,
you, you got your acrobatics. I don't know what the fuck you
be doing. What?
What is the secret? I pay for that shit the next
day. That shit.
Oh my God. Like when I say back me her and
lazy her every time I do a fucking shit, I pay for it the
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next day. I swear to God I do.
I pay for that shit. So listen.
Go and support y'all Listen, support your damn porn stars.
They may be breaking necks for you.
Literally breaking Dick. I really do.
Like, people don't understand the sacrifice.
I just sacrifices me. But yeah.
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Oh yeah. It's I, I, I can tell I love it.
I love it. And like hearing the stories is
I'm always like, give me the warstories, you know, telling
people I've had to RIP, you know, somebody's sponge out for
them because they couldn't afterseeing I've done that.
So I can't even imagine like what is what is one of the most
memorable? No, not memorable.
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Let's just talk about one of theworst scenes ever that you were
just like, I just had to get through it.
But like never fucking again. I can never do this.
What? Was the worst scene the worst
scene? Damn, 'cause I could have seen
where somebody had a stroke on me.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Back up, I've had a fool with.
Somebody shitting on me so I've had a scene me pissed all the
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time, but but I've had things like that, but you know that I
guess that would be that ones you OK That's.
How I started. That's how I first went by.
You didn't know that. Like, you know, I just sucked
the guy off and he had a stroke on me, had a stroke on me and
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I'm in the air and the ambulancehad to come.
Yeah, that's a true story, OK. You take the, you know, wow, I'm
over here just gagged. I'm speechless because you
really, why'd you have to set the soul out of that poor man?
I didn't know. I really didn't know.
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I didn't even, I didn't realize he was having a stroke, but for
some reason he wasn't moving andhe wasn't even fronding.
And I looked at him and I can't.And I attacked him a little bit.
I'm like, are you OK? Are you OK?
And no, no response. And I'm like getting really
scared like it. And I call my one.
I call my one. They came and got him.
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And this was in the corner. I was in the corner.
So this is the gorilla. Scene like there's nobody else.
It's just you and this poor man.Oh my God.
And. The crazy thing is, and the
crazy thing is, he wasn't mad. He was not mad.
He was not upset. He wasn't, I don't even think he
was embarrassed because he, he hit me.
You have to do it again. He hit me up and do it again and
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I did it again and I did it again.
He didn't have a stroke. Good.
A little bit prepared. So wait with the possibilities
of what could happen. But like, yeah, yeah, that was
crazy. And then I had another person
that shitted his soul when I sucked his Dick and shit like
that. Wait, wait.
Wait wait, so was it even like you didn't fuck him in the ass,
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he just. I had people, a lot of the guys
that I sucked like that, I did videos with, a lot of them was
very sensitive. Like I've had guys that they
will pull their Dick out and I suck their Dick for five seconds
and ain't nothing. And a lot of guys end up
screaming and shit like that. Like, you know, guys be really,
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some guys be really sensitive. Except when they're big.
This Santana No. No, you cannot put yourself in
saying some people are sensitive.
No, you done, you done. You know, so like you so sucked
the fuck out of somebody then you literally suck the shit out
of somebody. I mean, I just.
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I love sucking Dick. I really, really do love sucking
Dick. It's real.
It's really a passion of mine. You know what?
I, I need to learn from you. I need to learn from you because
I love my man. I have two men in my life, but I
love my fiance and, you know, full discretion and he's, he
knows I'm going to say it. So like we like to write, you
know, like we, we like to, you know, you got to keep it fresh.
(38:56):
So, you know, I asked him like, is there anything I can do
better for you? And he's like, your pussy is
amazing. However, I love how you suck
Dick, but can you please like, can you suck my Dick the way
that you love eating pussy? You have to love how to suck
Dick. That's the only way you're
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really going to be able to be good at him.
And it's so crazy because. He's the one that taught me how
to Deep Throat and swallow like it's crazy.
Like he has the perfect Dick forit.
And I was like, wait, I thought I'd like he's like, no, you like
to rush it. Like take your time.
Like when I see you eat pussy all the time and you never take
your time on the Dick like you do with some pussy.
(39:39):
And I'm like, well, you did. You are fiance to a lesbian.
OK, let's let's be you suck big fast.
You suck. You suck Dick really fast.
I suck Dick fast. Like I'm like, listen, I'm like,
and then it's good. Like I know it's good.
Some people like that too, you know.
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There's some people that like itreally, really slow me
personally, me personally, I like fast head, I really do.
I like that but the only problemis the neck because the neck
hurts. Yes and like.
You said if you're on your knees, I'm feeling wet.
And juice, some people don't like that.
Like they don't like it really wet.
They don't like a lot of speed. It's loud.
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I'm like, I don't know how to doit.
No other way. That's the best way I do it.
I don't want to slop me, but that's the best way I do it.
Like it's crazy. So I don't want those people
though. Would you rather?
Would you rather have a partner that would prefer the bussy or
the Dick? I would say bussy like you need
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like, don't want the top. Like, that's what you mean.
Like, yeah, like. Yeah, you rather finish inning.
I'm a bottom, so like, yeah, I would prefer you would.
Prefer I have to ask like everybody's a little different
because again, my man, he prefers coming inside of me than
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coming in my mouth. So I'm like, well, you're the
one that says you'd rather finish in here, so why would you
not want me to take my time? But you know, everything I like
to do, though, I like to do likeeven when even when a guy comes,
I like to keep sucking it like Ilove to just keep on growing.
That's the kill. That's that's the kill right
(41:30):
there when they bought the when they come, lock them arms around
them. So they want more.
Just be sucking and keep growingand Bobby ahead.
See, I'm nasty. I like to do the cleanup if I'm
not like too like burnt out. Like after you come inside me
let me taste each other like I love taking a little snack.
If you can't taste yourself after sex, that ain't love.
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I'm sorry that ain't mix your come together please like like
the guy I'm with. Now the guy I'm with now, the
guy I'm dating now, Oh my God, he's a, he's a eater.
I can't lose my best eater, can't lose my best eater.
Like he, he, he could eat some ass.
Like he could really eat some ass.
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Anything else? Like he's so good at it that I
don't even want anything else. Like you don't even have to give
me the Dick. You eat my ass.
Like I'm fine with that because it's so good.
See you can be. Polyamorous you can be
polyamorous because see you can have your boot, you can have
your primary ass eater. OK, then you get another partner
(42:32):
to get those ass clap. You know the ass clapping.
Then you got you know your your your little Topper.
There you go boom full triangle boom.
You don't even have to go like the multiple fives.
Just go 3 boom one. 2/3. And then the next thing.
Like the scene I'm doing now is get ready to come out soon.
It's the same what this is the first time I've ever done it for
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like a major studio. But like I sat on a guy face.
I sat on a guy face and then I had to, he was just eating my
ass on the back while I was justsitting on his face and I was
just with my titties and shit like that that's coming out.
So I can't wait for that to drop.
But when can we look forward? To that scene, when can we look
forward for that one? Do you know well what are you
(43:16):
guys going to? Release it.
I think they might release at the end of this month or they
might release it in the beginning of August.
Well, we will. Have this episode ready just in
time because this will be aroundthe towards the end of August or
towards the middle of August so y'all definitely have to check
out that scene. So you suffocating him?
I had fun. Making it, I really did.
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It's the same about somebody breaking to my house and trying
to steal my trophies and what better way and.
The burglar. The burglar fucks.
Me and I and and and I, he eat my ass with all kinds of stuff.
I'm excited for everybody to seethat.
See. Listen, people.
We need to regulate robberies that end with a nice good face
sitting, OK? Just like if you're going to rob
(43:58):
something, rob this pussy. Rob this pussy please.
But you know, men.com is really like, really, they're pushing
the the whole body diverse thing.
You know, I just want to see more big boys in porn.
(44:18):
And, you know, I do too. I.
Really do and Santana, I just can't wait to see what happens,
you know, as you continue flourishing and really spreading
this body, you know, body positivity and honey, I just
feel like I just I saw me a new bestie.
I don't know like I say this allthe time, but I'm just like
damn, you have me laugh. I've never laughed this hard
(44:39):
through an entire interview and I'm just like, honey, I can't
wait to meet you in person. I.
Know we definitely do. Where are you based?
So I'm in LA. So you may see me for Urban X if
you're coming out. I don't think I'm, I'm, I'm
(45:00):
because I know I'm nominated, but I don't think I'm going to
be. I don't think I'm going to win
because I won last year. I won that category last year.
And how many times do people multiply?
Like multi year one, Come on, let's be real, let's be real.
I might come, I know. I'm coming out to LA, OK?
You're coming out to. LA probably sometime next month,
but I don't. I haven't made-up my mind.
(45:21):
If I was going to Urban, I told him I was coming, but I didn't
make up my mind. Well, I know we'll be in.
Communications and figure out something because the the
Santana sapphire little reunion yes the link up is going to
happen thank you well where can people find you get in touch
(45:43):
with you you know come see theseass just where can they see all
of it well you. Could I'm on Twitter which is
Santana XXLL LL3L's 3L's. Yeah.
That that's that's Twitter 3L's and then I'm on Instagram, which
is Santana XXLL one. That's my new Instagram because
(46:05):
my other Instagram got suspended.
So I can never keep on Instagram.
So like hopefully I get to keep this one for a long period of
time, but we'll never know. No, the haters and shit again.
You can find me on those platforms.
I'm mainly active on Twitter though, but yeah, you can find
me on those platforms and stuff.Perfect.
Earbuds, you better go and go and check out the eggs because
(46:29):
it's saucy, it's spicy, it's sexy, it's all that thing when.
You Google me when you Google me, me and him come up on the
same thing. The damn.
Time I'm like, Oh my. God, it's crazy.
I love saucy, but we are not thesame people.
And you know, the another crazy thing is I went to an award show
last year, you know, Autumn white people thought I was I'm
(46:54):
dead. They.
Thought I. Was really saucy.
I was like, you would have, ain't you the guy that didn't
use it? Like what the for real?
I'm like, no, that's not me. No, no, that's not me.
But they really thought that. They really thought that it was,
you know what? That just means if we're
(47:15):
manifesting the like the collab,that's it.
A collab is going to happen one way or another.
One way or another is going to happen.
Y'all going to link up and something is going to happen and
I'm going to be all for it. Yes, You want to ask me?
No. I you know I'm about to wrap it.
(47:36):
Yes. I love it.
No honey, I think we we covered it all.
Air buds, you know where to get in touch with at Miz Radio
Sapphire. That's MSRADIOSAPPHIRE.
And of course you know that safesex is the best hot sex.
Till next time, good night. That was the show all.
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