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Hello and welcome to Saron Things, a podcast where we talk
about pop culture, reality TV, and a bunch of other things that
smart women care about. I am your host, Saron Al Kaba.
How do you diddly do? Welcome, welcome, welcome,
welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to
Olivia. The real ones know I wanted to
start the podcast like that almost every week, but I've held
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back and I just I needed to let it out.
I watched that movie She's the Man quarterly.
I think It cracks me up. I remember seeing it in the
theaters with my mother and likemy best friend Channing Tatum
was in it. That was his first real
heartthrobby role post step up. What?
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And also with the tragedy given Amanda Bynes, this whole
situation, she really is a comedic genius.
She was the comedic genius of our generation.
The Amanda Show. What a star.
What a fucking star. How sad.
What a strange start to the show.
Any who's all, how do you guys do?
I am doing well. My father is on the mend guys
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that is exciting. So I'm in high spirits today.
My main character things tidbit for today is actually about my
parents. I don't know where this man got
the energy, but as I was leavingthe hospital the other day, my
mom was there and they, I was talking to them about a trip I
had planned and they asked me what I was going to do with the
dog. And I told them, oh, my dog is
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going to be with my ex. As you guys know, I have an ex.
I was with him for eight years. We broke up a year ago.
And I want to be very clear, thedog is in my custody.
That is my dog, okay? And he sees the dog at my
leisure, right? So the first time I reached out
to him post breakup, it was about like maybe five months
after I was going on my first work trip and I had to figure
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out what to do with Henry. And The thing is, I'm always
going to do what is best for thedog.
Truly. He is the wind beneath my wings.
He's the glue holding the this operation together.
My sanity rests on his brittle little shoulders.
All right, So I must make sure he's OK.
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And The thing is, when he's withhis father, I know that he is
OK. There's no kind of custody
arrangement. Like I said, he sees him when I
have to go out of town or he reaches out to me and he says,
hey, can I spend like, the weekend or take the dog out to
the country or whatever? And I say, of course, because
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that is his father. And I know in my soul that he's
never going to be safer with anybody else because nobody
loves him second to me, nobody loves him as much as his dad, my
ex. So it brings me true peace and
like, calm and I don't have to worry when I know that Henry is
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with him. So as I told my mom that I don't
know how my dad got the energy, but he just popped up and he was
like, what do you mean? Why are you still seeing him?
You need a clean break. Just this long ass lecture about
how it's not the proper thing todo when a chapter is closed,
it's closed. How do you expect to move on if
you're still seeing him or you still have this connection?
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And my mom like, basically accused me of wanting to keep
him in my orbit and like I was using the dog to do.
And I actually had to pause and reflect on that because am I
using Henry as an excuse to keepmy ex in my world because I'm
like, not over him? I don't think so.
I really do not think so. I think I'm preoccupied with my
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dog and I'm always going to do what's in the dog's best
interest. And also, we broke up.
It wasn't easy, but it wasn't because one of us did something
to harm one another. For all intents and purposes, it
was a very amicable break up. It was heartbreak for both of
us, like devastation, but no illwill.
Or no one felt as if someone hadharmed the other.
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Certainly not. It was respectful in every way
It could have been, just like our relationship was.
And I don't know, I think that alot of people in my life are a
little confused by my lack of anger about how our relationship
ended. He broke up with me.
We were engaged to be married. He ended things three months
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before our wedding in 2022. And then we stayed together for
two more years afterwards. And then he himself said, I
don't think this is going to happen.
And it is what it is. Like I cannot be upset at
someone for simply not wanting to be with me.
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He was good to me for the entirety of our relationship and
he was as honest as I think he could possibly be.
He'd never cheated, none of thatstuff.
And he never lied to me. Like he's a man of integrity.
It's just if it wasn't going to work, it just wasn't going to
work. And I think that my parents have
a lot of resentment built up because obviously face value, it
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looks tough, but I have to say Iwas like a very willing
participant in every step of this relationship.
And I stayed with him for two extra years because I wasn't
ready. Like I simply was not ready to
not be with him anymore. So I think that was it the right
call that we broke up. Yeah, absolutely, 100%.
I don't I think that it the direction that my life would
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have headed in. I don't think I would have
accomplished everything that I need to accomplish in my life.
And I truly feel that like in mysoul, in my heart, in my gut.
And honestly, I've never been happier than right now.
I've never felt more peace than I do right now.
I've never felt more like fulfilled in my work.
I've never just I feel calm. I feel like I'm on the right
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track and I my life is moving inthe direction that I want it to
be. And I do understand that if we
stayed together, I would still be in this kind of limbo,
uncertain. And so I think it was a gift
that he gave me this breakup. But it's hard to explain that to
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my parents. And every time I see him, my mom
and my dad are like, hello, everyone sends their love, blah,
blah, blah. And I'm like, yeah, same.
But no, it's definitely not the case.
I know he's never going to listen to this, but I know this
would hurt his feelings. But yeah, they're not thrilled.
And I think in talking this out right now, I've realized that
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this is never going to change. Henry will always see him for as
long as he wants to see Henry. And in fact, I would be insulted
if he didn't want to see Henry. Henry is literally the most
delightful creature to ever exist.
I would imagine his life is hollow and somewhat meaningless
without him. And if it's not, then the
monster. And he's.
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So Yeah, that's what I've been noodling over this past week,
the state of just reflecting on this past year and how I fared
and how I feel after being alonefor the first time in my life
for a solid calendar year. And I feel good, guys.
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I feel good. It actually feels nice to be
able to check in with him every now and then because like I
said, I do want good things for him.
And it's just so great to have someone that I can leave the
love of my life with Henry and not have to worry.
So, yes, OK, All right. Now Henry will continue to see
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his father. Thank you for that.
All right, moving on to our nextsegment, things that pop, our
pop culture segment where we're talking about what's going on in
media this week. On to our second segment, Things
That Poop. We're starting off with Secret
Lives of Mormon Wives. I know you guys are probably
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thinking how could there be moreto discuss given the detail we
went through last week, but there is.
In fact, it is. Zach, The White Walker himself
appeared in my comment section this week after I posted a clip
from the podcast saying that I believed Jen when she told Demi
and Jesse the first time around that Zach had gambled away money
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his parents gave him for medicalschool.
Right, this is something they discussed on television.
He comes into my Instagram and says will you freaking stop
already? My dad paid for my tuition and
he's a cardiac surgeon and has saved hundreds of thousands of
dollars in a 529 savings accountfor his kids school.
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Stop your stupid shit for clicksand views.
We are real humans to humor you.Would you like me to post my
receipt paying for school or would you like me to show my
submission for a leave of absence?
I left to be there for my kids and fight for my marriage.
So seriously, stop. It's annoying.
OK Zach, first of all, never tell me what to do.
Never ever tell me what to do. That doesn't generally work out
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in people's favor. And also Sir, what the fuck are
you talking about? You are on a reality television
show. You're saying I'm talking about
you on my podcast for listeners,for clicks, for views.
Da Zach, that is not revelatory.No one is hiding the ball here.
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This is entertainment media. This is a podcast where we talk
about pop culture. Your wife is on a reality
television show where she showcases her life as an
influencer in a misogynistic, again, repressed culture,
married to a child of the corn. All right.
It is of the utmost importance for the success of the show that
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people talk about it, that people, you know, are given
their theories, given their opinions.
And you don't want people to nottalk about the show.
You don't want people to not talk about you, you only want
people to say good things. And I'm sorry Sir, that's just
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never going to happen. Unless you get an exorcism or a
non religious therapist. This is going to be your
relationship with the public. You have the type of personality
and character that does not readwell.
And obviously you're not media trained, which is part of the
beauty with reality television shows.
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I think that's why people reallyenjoy Secret Lives of Mormon
Wives so much. Like these women don't know
what's going on. They're saying whatever the fuck
comes to their mind, it's raw, it's real, it's messy, and what
they're showcasing are their real lives with their real human
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husbands, AKA you behaving like real humans.
And the Publix absorbs that, comes to their own conclusions.
And if you're lucky, they talk about it on their podcasts.
I don't know, Zach, I don't knowwhat to tell you.
I think it's very weird that youare arguing with me.
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I told you to take it up with your wife, Jen.
She's the one who said it first.And you had the audacity to say
no, she didn't, Sir, it's on television.
I can't guess. Like me.
I'm not your wife. You can't trick me.
We saw Demi and Jesse look at Jen and say, you told me that
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Zach, your husband, the child ofthe corn sitting right next to
you, gambled away the money thathis parents gave him for school.
And what did she do? She looked over at you and said,
do you want to tell them? Did you watch the show?
And I'm not saying that you could be telling the truth.
It's why it's called a theory. He said, and you're out here
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spreading rumors online. No, babe, not rumors.
A theory based on something thatyour wife said on a reality
television show. I repeat, is he in everybody's
comments section? Because Lord knows I am not the
only person talking about the show and I'm certainly not being
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the meanest about it. Or maybe my post was just like
the hair that broke the camel's back.
I have no idea. I do tend to be very pointed and
I do not mince my words. You, I don't know, don't know.
But Zach, you have to buck up, Buttercup, because it is really
just downhill from here. You're going to have to be able
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to let some shit roll off your back, Zachary, you really are.
Or you're just going to have theshittiest time and also go to
school. What are you doing?
You got to go back to school. Are you planning on becoming a
dad talker? I don't understand.
Because you're going to get yourmarriage back on track and then
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you're going to move back to NewYork without your wife.
Your wife doesn't want to be in New York.
I don't know. I would focus on that more so
than podcasters theories online.And honestly, you're welcome for
talking about you keeping your show fucking relevant.
Are you out of your mind? Get out of here.
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Next topic. Oh my God, Todd Chrisley has
been pardoned. And OK guys, I know it's fucked,
right? I posted on my stories.
I said it feels like we're living in a dark comedy, like a
dramedy stranger, the fiction type shit, right?
When one reality TV star who happens to be the felonious
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president of the United States pardons another reality
television star for tax evasion,you couldn't write this shit,
guys. And he was all of all like the
fuck shit that the Trump administration has done and all
of the psychotic pardons that they've given.
And this one kind of bothers me the least.
And honestly, Savannah did her big one, guys.
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Savannah did her big one. Can you imagine how proud Todd
Chrisley and his wife are of that child?
She buckled down and she said I'm getting those motherfuckers
out of jail and she didn't. She secured a presidential
pardon for her parents. And mind you, I know it's shrimp
and handsome out like candy, butstill, at the end of the day,
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that's an impressive thing to beable to say.
She Oh my God, And she said something about, oh, people
think that I either slept with him or gave him a lot of money.
Who the fuck thinks that, Savannah?
Who the fuck nobody thinks you fucked that man?
You even I EW, I don't think so.I don't even want to think about
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it. And obviously you didn't give
him any money 'cause you don't fucking have any.
That's why your parents went to jail.
They didn't pay their taxes. The government done took it all.
No, we know that you made this happen strictly by being a
surrogate for Donald Trump during the election for just
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hitting pound in the pavement for that man, making sure he got
all the votes you could fucking muster, and just kissing his
ass. Kiss metaphorically, not
literally. Good on you for that.
Honestly, guys, he's hilarious. He's so fucking funny.
I don't know what to tell you. He makes me laugh.
And I was never, I never watchedChris Lee knows best like
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religiously, but I would catch like episodes or bits of
episodes here and there. And of course I would see like
clips online. And he's a fucking character.
He's a star. He deserves to be on national
television. He Oh my God, he's so funny.
And also when he was being, he did his little press conference
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after being released. Hilarious.
He was cracking jokes up in thatbitch.
And he had his cellmates, his fellow inmate, the inmates
cracking up. He was probably got a good hour,
a tight hour together in the clink.
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Man also didn't see this one coming.
He came out and immediately started talking about how
there's disparity in the treatment between like white
prisoners and black prisoners and talking about like Prison
Reform and like the treatment ofblack prisoners.
It I didn't see that coming. I didn't see that one coming at
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all. He seems to have really
befriended and gotten to know people in that jail of different
cultures and seems to have been touched by them.
And when I say touched, I've seen those comments saying he
found himself a sexy black ass man in there, that he is trying
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to get out ASAP. He found himself a black zatty.
But I like that theory too. I could definitely fucking see
it. Oh my God that man was probably,
no I'm going to say it. He was probably having the time
of his life in there. The belle of the ball, I'm sure
just OK, let me leave that. Let me leave that alone.
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But anyways, I am I happy that Todd Chrisley got out?
No am I mad? No.
I'm indifferent at worst. And I like look forward to his
absurdity. He they already have a reality
television shows lined up. He was pardoned like on a
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Monday. He was out of jail on Tuesday
and they announced their realitytelevision show on Wednesday.
Savannah must have been busy as hell.
Girl. Damn, now that's a good
daughter. You can say whatever you want
about the Chrisley's and Savannah and the rest of them,
but like she did her big one. Oh my God.
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I was gonna say like she better get everything in the will, but
again, there is no money. That is the problem.
But I'm sure they will be quickly restacking those bills
given they've already secured their next show and I don't
know. Oh, also, back to the black
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thing, they he has a black granddaughter slash daughter.
I'm sure he is a little extra sensitive to issues around race
due to her, his baby Chloe. That's something to think about,
actually. All right, anything else about
Todd Chrisley? He's gay.
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Black boyfriend, Prison Reform, Savannah.
Oh, no, I think that's it. All right, we're up next.
Taylor Swift got her master's back.
She got her master's back, $360 million, which was a fucking
steal because people were sayingthey could have gone for like
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close to a billion. So good for her.
Way to go, Queen. The next Taylor's version of an
album that was supposed to come out was Reputation TV.
And a bunch of people have said,oh, she'd rather have spent $360
million buying back her catalog then rerecord this album that
was essentially like a love letter to Joe Alwyn, her almost
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husband. And that made me laugh.
But also, as I'm thinking about it, she's had to sing those
songs on tour for ages, so I'm sure she.
Disassociates in some way from them.
I do not think that she got her master's back in order to avoid
re recording reputation because it hurt too much to sing about
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Joe. No, but it's a funny thought.
And the day after that information came out.
Oh wait, hold on. First and foremost, I know I'm
an idiot. A bunch of women had posted
these Tik Toks of their arm bands from the Aristor lighting
up. And I saw at least five of them,
right? And there were so many posts
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about how, oh, like Taylor Swift's arm bands are lighting
up, post her, getting her whatever back.
And I was shaken. I said this is one of the most
touching, unique, thoughtful, like including my fans in a
moment kind of thing that I've ever seen done.
Having her arm bands from the Heiress tour light up in the
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homes of her fans across the world after she got the rights
to her songs back. Turns out that was a lie.
Turns out that didn't happen. And many people told me in
various different ways just how stupid I was for believing that
and why I was stupid. And I gotta say, you all have a
point. The science is not sciencing.
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The math is not mathing. I if you think about it for a
good at least 30 seconds, like critically, I can see why I
should have realized that would be an impossibility.
But I'm sorry that I have a childlike sense of wonder and
whimsy. All right.
And I see the world through rosecolored Swifty glasses.
I'm just kidding. I'm not AI, wouldn't say I'm a
Swifty. I don't think I can hold that
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title. It feels a little heavy for me.
I don't know the words to every single one of her songs.
But I will say I am a fucking fan of Taylor Swift and I didn't
go to the Eris tour. And I'm also like, guys, I'm
just not a concert person. I'm not a crowded anywhere
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person. I don't like to be in a crowded
place. I don't like to feel trapped
anywhere. I just, I, I don't like to be
around the masses. I don't know what to tell you.
And it's so fucking weird because this wasn't me growing
up. I actually, if you're what from
Washington, DC, you'll know the 9:30 Club, right?
A historical venue. I worked there for a couple of
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years. I actually did an internship in
their marketing department when I was in college.
And then I went on to work at their like concessions at Food
food for a couple years while I was in school during the summers
and whatnot. I loved it.
I would go to shows all the time, not only like when I was
working. Free shows was a huge perk, it
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was just a huge part of my life,live music actually.
And as I've gotten older it justgives me more anxiety than
anything else. And if I'm got a show, I feel
like it's a huge stadium show. It just doesn't feel worth it
for me unless I'm like up close.And if I'm up close that means
I'm really in it. So I leave the tickets to
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someone who's less fucking weirdand who will enjoy it properly
is how I feel at this point in time.
I was tempted to go to the Cowboy Carter tour, but unless
I'm in a box, I don't want to go.
Call me whatever the fuck you want, I don't care.
I'm at this point in my life, I'm just focused on being
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comfortable and only doing the things that I want to do, and
being cramped at a show is no longer it.
I'm sorry. I'm in a different season of my
life. How did we get here?
All right, Taylor Swift errors to our arm bands lighting up.
That was a lie. I was bamboozled.
I understand that was stupid. All right, I get it.
You don't have to root it in. Also, after she announced that
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she had purchased her master's, she went out to dinner with
Selena Gomez. And I just love seeing those
fucking 2 together. They have, it feels like such a
like a serious friendship between two decent people.
And I have always thought, I don't even know if I've OK Blake
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Lively, right? I've never seen Blake Lively and
Selena Gomez together hanging out with Taylor Swift, I don't
think. And the more I think about them
interacting, like Selena is careful with her words, right?
She's thoughtful when she speaksslowly.
She speaks clearly. It's never a word salad with
Selena Gomez. Some people say she might speak
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a little too slowly, but I thinkshe's a thoughtful, intelligent
queen who has been through a lotin her life and carries herself
as such, and so I could see her having a conversation with
Blake. Word salad vapid nonsense,
lively and just like almost blinding herself with how much
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she's resisting rolling her eyes.
I just can't see them conversing.
I don't think they'd have anything in common.
I think that Selena probably looks down at at Blake.
This is what my gut is telling me Selena probably has is able
to read sincerity versus insincerity and thirst versus
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the wanting of an actual friendship.
And I was listening to the Taylor Striker show this
morning, actually, and they we're talking about this exact
same thing. And they mentioned that
somewhere it was written that Selena thought it was weird that
Blake befriended Taylor so aggressively and then
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immediately made her the godmother of her children.
She thought that was a little odd.
And obviously this has not been confirmed or anything, but it
just it helps support these baseless feelings that I have
about that friendship with that friendship group.
Do you remember the Deadpool versus Wolverine premiere where
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Blake Lively was wearing that red jumpsuit and she was there
with Gigi Hadid? They both looked absurd, like
heinous, horrible outfits, horrible.
And they were like holding handsand whatever.
Like I, I don't, I honestly don't know what she would have
in common with. I don't know what anyone could
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have to talk to Blake Lively about.
She is fluff and cotton candy and but like, darkness too.
I don't know. OK, enough rambling.
Next, Sidney Sweeney's bathwater.
So Sidney Sweeney has partnered with a, what is it called again?
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What is the, I don't know. I don't know what the brand is,
but it's a men's like cosmetic, hygienic, whatever brand.
And she's making a soap called Sidney Sweeney's Bathwater and
it's has her actual bathwater incorporated into it in some
way. And I just have to say, I think
this is a bad idea. I think that Sidney Sweeney is
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hot, sexy, gorgeous, love that she's single now.
I think it's actually psychotic that she ever got engaged at
this stage in her career. Like in fact, I think it's a red
flag that he proposed to her nowlike a year ago when her star
was clearly skyrocketing, wantedto lock that down.
But like she, I just knew that relationship was going to end.
I know nothing about him, but there was no way that she was
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going to live the entirety of her successful career in
Hollywood tied down not being able to frolic in these streets
with these Hollywood men. Like that would have just been a
fucking travesty. So Sidney Sweeney's bathwater,
who is this? I understand this is marketed to
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men. This is for this is a men's
shower product. But what man would buy that and
not feel pathetic? I understand the whole like, oh,
I would she's so hot. I would drink her bathwater
thing. But there's it's they're saying
it and then going out of your way to purchase a product that
includes it. It's it's a shtick that feels a
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little sleazy and I don't know. I don't know, if I went back to
a dude's house, I was in their bathroom and I saw that they had
Sydney Sweeney's bathwater soap,I would judge them.
It feels tacky. It feels unnecessary, Also feels
unhygienic. If it's her actual bathwater.
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Did they go through some kind ofsanitization process?
I don't know. Something about that seems
strange, but like she's leaning into the sexy of it all and I
don't think she should lean awayfrom it.
I think that oftentimes feels like forced and it's boring.
But I wouldn't, I don't know if I would go too hard in this
direction. What a weird product.
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And do men buy like branded things like this?
Aren't they just getting like a an Irish Spring or a Dove?
Where would they find this product and why would they reach
for that in the soap aisle over an Irish spring?
I don't know. I literally and not to be
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sexist, but I don't know, I would imagine like in homes when
there there's a couple, a male female couple.
The woman is probably purchasinga lot of the, like, soaps and
whatnot. And what woman is purchasing
that for her man? It just doesn't.
I don't understand the audience.It feels tacky and I don't enjoy
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it. So good luck, godspeed, and you.
OK, This story receives an honorable mention, and I'm not
going to spend too much time on it, but Patti Lupone apologizes
for interview comments about Keisha Lewis and Audra McDonald.
I'm devastated. If you didn't know.
Broadway star like an icon, I guess some people call her
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Patti. Lupone said some weird shit
about Keisha Lewis and Audra McDonald, Broadway stars
themselves who happened to be black Patti.
You can tell that not enough people in her life have ever
told her to shut the fuck up. You can tell.
And I don't know how one gets tothis point where they have drank
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so much of their own Kool-aid that it's just like, pouring out
of them. But I find her insufferable.
I don't believe that her apologyis sincere.
This apology comes on the heels of an open letter from the
Broadway community condemning Patti Labon's like, racist
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rhetoric. Broadway is a place where we
have lived each other whatever. And Patti Labon has never
apologized before. And which isn't cute.
OK, I don't. I'm never going to apologize for
what I say. That's an insane take to me.
That's insane because I know I'mcapable of being wrong.
To say that you're never going to apologize, it's admitting
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that you're, first of all, you're not open to change.
You don't evolve. You lack an understanding of
like nuance. You see it, it's not good.
That or you do change and you don't want to address it because
of your ego. Either way it doesn't say great
things about you. Anyways.
I guess she gave her first apology in her entirety of her
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life and her career. So Brava for that fucking, I
don't know, delayed growth? How old is she, 60 Any who's all
If she hadn't received that letter, 500 people in the
Broadway community like notable people, I don't think she would
have given this apology. It didn't come from her heart.
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It wasn't like she knows she didsomething wrong.
No, this is just like the most blowback she's ever received in
her life. Therefore, she's Dennis seen it.
I don't buy it for a fucking second.
So you can take that apology andshove it right up your ass,
Patty. All right, Pudalou.
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Oh wait. Courtney Love signed this open
letter? What?
That is so crazy to me. Courtney Love signed an open
letter condemning Patti Lu Pone's racism.
Courtney Love had a concert where she told her audience
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scream the N word and I'm gonna count to 3 and we're all just
gonna scream the N word and she signed the letter.
She signed the open letter to Patti Lu Pone.
Courtney Love, Who allowed that?Not enough people talk about
that moment, by the way, although I guess she's not
exactly part of the zeitgeist. Courtney Love.
She hasn't been relevant ever, really, and all I've known her
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to be is like a drunk slurry messy slob kebab with mirrored
smudged eyeliner and, like, patchy lipstick and a bad bleach
job. Yeah, that is literally all I
know of her and trying to think,is there literally anything
else? Do I know anything good about
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Courtney Love? No, I should not have included
her in this. It's such a weird thing to do.
OK, so reality TV things. The valley.
Nothing very notable happened other than the fact that we saw
Sheena and Lala for the first time.
And men, when I tell you the every scene, every moment of
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that party, you could see Sheenalurking in the background.
She made sure she was in every fucking shot.
And then this conversation that Lala had with Jesse was so weird
and forced and they just jammed her in there like no Lube, no
explanation. I thought they would find a way
to Weaver into the storyline that she'd have some kind of
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purpose. No, But they, I swear to God, a
producer said, here's your mic. Start a fight with Jesse and
make sure you include that Michelle is your friend.
Say that Michelle is your friendand start a fight with Jesse.
And you can tell as the fight was happening, Jesse seemed
amused. He like he knew what was going
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on, like we all did. And that's the problem with
Lala. It was a problem with Lala on
Vanderpump Rules. It is drama, but it is produced
insincere drama. She doesn't fit the vibe.
Also, I don't believe that her and Michelle are friends.
What the fuck would pop Lala andthe Pursuit of Sassiness
Michelle? That's the name of her podcast.
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Guys. The Pursuit of sassiness and I'm
sorry, I know podcasters, women uplifting women, blah blah.
She freaks me out as a person ingeneral.
You're not gonna hear me uplifting Michelle.
That is the worst podcast name I've ever heard in my life.
The pursuit of sassiness. Guys, Is that even choogy?
What's beyond choogy? The horror.
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You might as well have named it Live Laugh Love.
Oh my God. Any who's all?
Yeah. No, I don't think that Lala and
Michelle are actually friends. I don't understand why Bravo
thinks that they have to be on the show.
The show is so good without them.
It is dark enough, it is crazy enough.
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The first season was so good people were waiting, chomping at
the for season #2 what the fuck is cramming Sheena and Lala in
there going to do for it? How is it going to improve it in
any way? And I'll take Sheena over Lala
and that sounds crazy. I bet you never thought you'd
hear me say that. If you had told me like 2 years
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ago, three years ago, that I would say give me Sheena and
stay away Lala, I wouldn't have believed you.
But alas, at least Sheena's desperation is.
It's organic. She like it.
It feels right from her. Lala, I just.
She's infuriating. She's infuriating.
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Her vulnerability is insincere. Everything about her is just a
fake, phony. Weird.
I don't like it. Get her off of my television.
I wonder though, and I hope thatshe's able to always provide for
her family and that she's not financially struggling or
anything. I hope she does it far away from
my television screen, but I hopeshe's always of course fine.
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She has babies to take care of and whatnot.
But I do wonder how she is doingbecause they purchased.
She purchased almost like $5,000,000 worth of property the
year that Vanderpump Rules ended.
And give them Lala Beauty is nota financial success.
And obviously she's not gonna get another book deal.
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Her first one flopped. So I don't really know what
she's actually going to be able to do if she doesn't do this
show. But that's her problem.
Does she have fans who listens to her podcast?
I listened to a few episodes back when her assistant Jess was
on and I cannot wait to get thatTI know it's coming someday.
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You guys know Jess? You saw her be hired on a couple
seasons of Vanderpump Rules whenLala was still with Randall and
she was with Lala. She got her through that breakup
and they parted ways in a very messy way.
And Lala started saying oh she wanted to use me bullshit
bullshit La La. I highly doubt Jess was trying
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to use you for clout. What clout La La what clout Oh
the delusion is insane. And summer house reunion Part 1
it was nothing really happened. My biggest take away is why was
Gabby there for the whole thing?She literally didn't say
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anything and I made a couple videos about this on TikTok and
I don't want it to read as I don't like Gabby.
I think that Gabby is like a talented human.
I think she has a good head on her shoulders as a person.
I think she's funny. Her facial expressions, her
fashions and whatever great. She has a great career as a
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director of a fashion brand or magazine or something.
She has a real job. She has a real life.
And I know that she'll be fine and successful in whatever she
does. I just don't think that reality
TV is her bread and butter. I don't think that.
Not that she's messy enough, butI don't think she's vulnerable
enough and she doesn't involve herself enough.
And I think she's very comfortable being, you know, a
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friend of the supporting character and that's not
conducive to the way that SummerHouse is shot.
There are no friends of on the show.
They need to be like 8 individual messy main characters
and throw them together, see what the fuck happens.
And she is just orbiting on the outskirts of things.
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And I don't even think even if she left the show and this was
her last season, which I actually think it's probably
going to be, I don't think she'dcome back every couple of weeks
or for a weekend or two. Danielle said.
I don't even think her relationship with the people in
the house are that strong. So I think we gave it the old
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college try. It's didn't work.
Let's just call it a day. It's fine.
And like I said, she will be successful no matter what she
does. Like she is a smart girl, she's
talented, she's beautiful, good head on her shoulders.
I'm sure she'll be working in fashion forever, so.
Whatever. And who's?
Maybe this isn't the reality show for her, right?
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Maybe there's another format that might work, but I don't
know. I just think it's time to go.
M Rule was on Part 1 and he camein halfway through.
He spoke for 5 minutes, Still more airtime than what Gabby
got. And Speaking of M Rule, I'm
endeared to him, right? I don't think we got the most
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accurate depiction of him. I think we should stop calling
him Orgy Monster or Orgy the originator.
I I see why the show was edited to emphasize that.
And obviously he came in and he led with that and that was
probably a mistake. But I don't know if he only
brought home a girl 4 weekends out of the entire summer.
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I don't understand. Were they supposed to be chased
Queens? Was he not supposed to bang?
He seems just a sex positive queen to me and I don't think he
got a fair shake and I think that they should bring him back
next season. I want to see a little bit more
of him. I still want to know why he was
edited out of that dinner. That is the most unnecessary
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thing. I think about that shit all the
time. Yeah.
So Emeril was there. Sierra cried.
Kyle cried when Sierra cried. That man stays crying when
Sierra cries. It is the craziest thing.
Amanda was like, I don't actually think you've ever cried
when I've cried before. And I believe it.
He has a real soft spot for thatgirlie.
And not in a creepy way, which is impressive given what Sierra
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looks like. So good.
Good for you, Kai. Anything else from that?
We had just gotten into the partwhere Sierra is telling Lexi
you're trifling for going on this press tour and trying to
make it seem like I was going out of my way to be sneaky with
Jesse. Like I said on so many podcasts
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myself, so many episodes, I've said she knew Lexi for four days
prior to that weekend where Jesse was flirting with her so
aggressively. There's a girl code there.
She didn't know that, but she was a stranger.
And Lexi to be like, no, I had aproblem with Jesse.
No, we literally heard you on this press tour talking about
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how Jesse and Sierra skipped your birthday to hang out
together on purpose, like to being shady.
You brought that up on a podcastto, to knowing what it would
sound like to make her sound bad.
So I don't ever see her having afriendship with Sierra.
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And I know Sierra literally tried to shive Danielle with a
broken wine glass and they're somehow OK.
But I think it's gonna take a lot more time for Sierra to ever
have her guard down around Lexi.Cause Lexi is confusing.
You don't know what she's thinking.
She'll behave one way to your face and she'll actually feel
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something differently about you.And when people are like that, I
personally tend to no longer value them or their opinion is
what does it matter? I never know what you're
actually feeling. I don't know if you're telling
the truth. I don't know if you're lying.
I don't know if you like me. I don't know if you don't like
me. I don't know if you're trying to
get something from me or information.
I don't know. So she's just the kind of person
that I would shy away from. She's just not real.
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And you can see with Amanda and Sierra, straight to the point,
honest, dumb into their words, not liars, not male centered.
And that's very different from Lexie.
And like people keep saying, Amanda Page and Sierra are Mean
Girls, except no one can explainwhat they mean by that.
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They won't be fucked with. They're straight to the point.
There is no pretense there. And they like know their worth.
They're never cruel. They never go out of their way
to exclude anyone. Paige gave Lexi such incredible
advice this season. She straight up was like, you
guys have known each other for amonth and a half and it's been
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so messy. You got to not do this.
And that's some real shit. And when those women were giving
her advice, it meant it from their soul.
The girls who think the page, Sierra Amanda doesn't mean
Amanda doesn't even know what's going on half of the time.
Anyways, I'm looking forward to part due.
That will be tomorrow. I will see Sierra lighting.
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I look forward to seeing Sierra light up little Lexi.
I think that should be entertaining and I don't think
that Lexi will be able to handleit.
We shall see. OK.
And now for Hot Girl Things, a segment where we talk about
politics, policy, and global news because hot girls, we stay
informed and we clock environmental racism when we see
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it, even if it's wearing a Patagonia vest and talking about
AI. So let's talk about Memphis, TN,
specifically the fact that one of the country's largest new AI
supercomputing campuses is beingbuilt in a predominantly black
neighborhood, S Memphis, and they're trying to sell it to us
like it's some kind of tech renaissance, a jobs boom,
progress, whatever. But here's what's actually
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happening. A heat belching, energy
devouring, water guzzling data facility is being dropped on a
community that's already bears the scars of generational
environmental abuse and they're calling it innovation.
All right, so let me tell you what they're not putting in the
press release. This facility is about to sit
right above the Memphis Sand Aquifer, one of the most
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pristine underground water resources in the country.
The aquifer supplies clean drinking water to over 1,000,000
people. And these supercomputers?
They need millions of gallons ofwater per day just to stay cool.
So while Silicon Valley's finestare busy building their
synthetic God machine, they're literally pumping up groundwater
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that belongs to the people of Memphis.
Not recycling, not conserving, not asking, just fucking taking.
And here's the kicker, Black Memphisians, or Memphians or
whatever they're called, they'vebeen fighting to protect the
aquifer for years. They pushed back against
pipelines, they've held town halls, they've sounded every
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single alarm. And now a multi billion dollar
data campus shows up with 0 community input planning to
extract from the aquifer daily while residents still get boil
notices and brown water from 80 year old pipes.
So let's call it what it is. It's resource colonization with
a login screen. They say it's going to create
jobs. Cute, right?
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But let's ask, are we talking engineer jobs or janitor jobs?
Is South Memphis about to becomea new tech hub or just like a
sacrifice zone with fiber optic cables?
And it's not just the water. These facilities also contribute
to air pollution, noise pollution, light pollution and
can elevate electromagnetic fields, which researchers are
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still studying for long term health effects.
So now this already overburdenedcommunity has to carry the
invisible cumulative weight of afacility that's allegedly making
the world smarter. Smarter for who?
All right, let's be honest. If this facility were going up
in Brentwood or Chevy Chase, there would be public hearings,
environmental lawsuits and probably, I don't know, a
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Wellness influencer chaining herself to a Redwood.
But in South Memphis, it's radiosilence.
It's sealed deals. It's people who look like me
being told to take one for the future.
So yeah, this week it's giving AI colonialism and blackface,
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and we're not falling for it because hot girls, we read
zoning maps, Hot girls protect aquifers, and hot girls know
when a $2 billion server firm isreally just an extraction site
in disguise. And that's it for this week's
Hot Girl Things. And we'll close out this week's
episode with our segment Questionable Things, where you
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guys submit your questions and Itry to answer them as
accurately, honestly and not insanely as possible.
This one made me laugh. It's from Chrissy Mae.
Are low rise jeans coming back organically or a big denim
behind this? OK, so everything is a choice.
Listen, you do not have to be a slave to trends.
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If something comes back, you don't have to adapt it into your
life. OK, that's first and foremost,
But do I think they're coming back organically?
Yes, yes I do. I do not think it's big denim.
I think it's it's Gen. ZI think it's another annoying
thing that Gen. Z is doing.
Also. You want to know why I know that
this is happening organically? Because someone in my comments
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the other day said whale tails. They're starting to see them
again, and my guys, that shall be my 13th reason if I'm seeing
people walk around the city withtheir thongs hanging out like a
fashion statement. Not to sound like a grandma, but
I I thought it was tacky as hellwhen I was in middle school as
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an adult. Oh abso fucking lutely.
Not whale tales. It's not retro, it's not chic,
it's not fun. But to be fair, naked is
actually in now. Zoe said Donna had her ass out
at the Grammys. Whose vagina did we basically
see? I'm pretty sure we saw vag this
award season somewhere on some red carpets.
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If that's OK, then why not a whale tale?
Listen, it's complicated, but fashion is cyclical.
People get bored and they start looking to history for ways to
judge up their wardrobe. And often times it's exciting
and good, and sometimes it's disgusting and horrible.
And I think that everything fromthe 2000s to 2000s is where
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fashion went to die. It is easily the absolute worst
decade in fashion history. Everything was too tight,
everything was too low, everything was overly glittered,
bedazzled. There were too many rhinestones
everywhere. There was too much glitter.
Tacky, just so tacky. It was very bad.
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So I don't understand what thereis to go back to that.
I really truly thought, as someone who understood that
fashion is cyclical, that the 2000s would be a time we skipped
over. I had no expectation of coming
back here because I know that there was nothing good.
There was nothing good. A low rise and a whale tail, A
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graphic tee from American Eagle,maybe a layered polo.
Oh God, none of it. Keep it.
Keep that shit in the past. Keep that any other decade.
I don't care. The 2000s disaster.
The tackiest shit I've ever seen.
I took my style very seriously actually.
When I was in high school growing up in the 2000s, I had
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the feeling I felt as if fashionwas tacky in real time.
Everyone just looked dirty. Everyone just the look was I
spent the entire night raging atLedoux.
I came home at 4:00 in the morning, fell asleep in my night
out clothes and I'm still wearing them today.
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Why was everything so tight? And I'll fitting and they're the
layers I and it's not like a funmew mew like preppy, like chic
layering, but crazy fucking peasant tops, peasant dresses
over jeans with a bedazzled bootand maybe a tie.
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Why do we want to go back to that?
Oh my God, sorry, that's it really offends me.
But Gen. Z, well, Gen.
Z, this hasn't been the first time that they've disappointed
me, and it shan't be the last. Our little burgeoning boomers.
I had so much hope too guys, today I have on that note, I've
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had such a lovely time chatting with you guys today.
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