April 3, 2025 • 47 mins
On this episode of Saron Things, your favorite pop culture podcast, we discuss:
- Summer House Recap!
- Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion Recap! (PT 1)
- Boring NYC Influencers Whistleblower FIRED!
- David Beckham's Mistress is Back in the Headlines
- Deaux Moi Doesn't Have Black Friends
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Welcome to Saron Things, pop culture podcaster.
We chitchat about this week's trending topics, at least the
ones that I care about. I am your host, Saron Al Kaba.
How are y'all doing? I promise I'm not going to start
every podcast like that. I have no idea why that comes so
naturally. Like that's the first thing that
comes out of my mouth and I it'soff brand.
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I don't use the word y'all in myeveryday vernacular.
So you're right to be weirded out if you are OK any who's all
I just must I must say the podcasting, the back end
technical stuff, it's hard. It's not easy.
It's not easy. So give the people who are doing
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this on their own without like without a producer some fucking
credit because my God has this been a journey.
I somehow recorded like in 45 minute episode without any
sound. I how does one do that?
How do you do that? I don't know, but I did I did.
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I tried to find the sound everywhere I looked, everywhere.
I I up, down, all around. It was nowhere.
It was nowhere. So now we're doing this all over
again and I don't know. I, I, I don't know.
I got a beer because that's the only way I can do this again.
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And who knows if I'll even fucking edit this shit.
I I can't, I can't think about this anymore, OK?
I can't think about this anymore.
I need to calm my energy down. I have animals to think about.
They can't feel this radiating off of me.
I think of the kids are on. OK so let's just dive head on
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1st into the pop culture stuff. I just finished watching Summer
House so that is very much top of mind.
The episode very much was about Carl's launching his soft bar.
And if you recall last season when Carlito and Lindsay were
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still an item, he like pitched her this like non alcoholic
sports bar that she just shot down, rightfully fucking so.
And he even admitted in the after show for this episode that
she was absolutely right about that.
So that's good. But he decided to take the same
vibe in a different direction. Still a non alcoholic, you know,
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Brick and order establishment, but like a cafe and oh, they
said he said something about like mushrooms.
I feel like we glazed right overthat in this episode.
They were like, if you want to add a friend on to the drink.
So Carl threw a a party for his new non alcoholic bar, whatever
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non alcoholic bar, I guess called soft House.
And I think it's a fucking incredible name.
He told a story in the after show about how he was going to
name it something stupid like something soft house, like
adjective soft house, because heassumed soft house had already
been taken, right? And so they were.
He was in the process of trademarking like the original
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name and it was taken, I believe, or someone, I don't
know how they ended up doing this, but the person who was
doing the trade marking was justlike, do you want to try and see
if you can get the trademark forSoft House?
And Carl was like, there's no way.
But the trademark person was like, let's look.
And it turned out that the trademark for Soft House had
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just, and like had just expired that day.
So of course they jumped on it. And so he has trademarked this
like ABS fucking. I mean, it couldn't be a better
name for what he's trying to create.
That being said, am I wary aboutthe product, about the whole
concept? Absolutely.
But Oh my God, no, I digress. There he threw this party for to
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like, launch the drink. It was like a tester, friends
and family a la like Schwartz and Sandy's.
You know what I mean? Like, you know, how they had
people coming in for a very longtime before they opened just to
like have something tangible that I guess they could film.
That is exactly what has happened here.
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And at that like mixer function that he threw at friends and
family soft launch for soft house that he threw in in New
Jersey. He, he, there was a moment where
he was like, oh, do you want to add like a friend to your drink?
And, and he said something aboutmushrooms.
And I don't know if he's we're talking like psilocybin or if
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we're talking, you know, ashwagandha, because those are
two different, two different experiences.
All right, One you can get on Amazon, the other not, although
it is legal in Washington, DC. So they so you can't acquire
that legally, I believe, I believe, don't quote me actually
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Google that before you, before you make any moves.
OK, Anyways, so Soft House is a thing.
Will it be a successful thing? I don't know.
The mushroom part kind of put a little reinvigorated my hope for
it because at least there's a little something, something
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that's going to be going on. Otherwise, just say you're open
in a fucking cafe. Just call it a cafe.
I like the branding for that a lot better.
You know, you can, you can franchise that shit.
Who knows? But I don't know.
I don't know. Especially if like if you're
going to be selling mocktails that are the same fucking price
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as cocktails. I feel like that's such a hard
sell. That's such a hard sell.
And if you're not doing that, how are you going to make up
that margin? But he's saying he's going to be
selling coffee as well. Oh no, the psilocybin.
OK. If it's psilocybin, I see how
you make up the margin. I see.
I see if it's Ashwagandha. I'm sorry, Boo Joshua Nanda, as
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long as I'm laughing, guys, it'sall about OK.
So oh, oh, so in the episode Carl said something about, oh,
we hope to have doors open and they're like brick and mortar
establishment by January 2025. Obviously that date has passed,
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but in the after show he did saythat they have a lease secured
and that they have a launch likean opening date of this summer.
So that's that's really exciting.
I really actually think this is going to happen.
And he says he's invested 100 fucking $1000 in this USD.
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OK, American dollars $100,000 liquid cash dinero, I don't
know, makes me I don't know. That's a big fucking number.
And that is quite a risk. But he said that he was will
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he's OK with failing. If he doesn't make up that, that
that number, then at least he tried and failed.
And that I'm fucking respect. It's not like a Schwartz and
Sandy's type situation where your mother is giving you her
retirement quarter of $1,000,000just for the fucking place to
close a couple years later. OK, this is a whole, this is a
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different ball game. It's his money.
It's it's money you can lose. He he feels like he can lose and
it is what it is. Oh my God, Speaking of Carl,
fuck is Oh my God, this whole episode was like very Carl
centric and like good for you Queen, good for you Zabooma Foo.
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That's my like nickname for him from now on Zabooma Foo.
I don't remember if that's how the song goes, but it's just
like OK, so oh the girl Lil Lily.
What is Gabby doing and why is she doing it?
OK, I don't understand what thatwas.
That moment that she relayed back to Lindsay was not enough.
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You needed you needed more detail.
So there was a moment where Gabby and the girl that Carl is
talking to, Lil standing in a circle with like Emeril.
And he, she's just like casuallytalking about how she knows how
she and Carl met and somehow Carl and her her parents met
prior to her ever meeting. And she is the question was
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asked like, oh, so like in the summers when you guys started
talking and she was like, oh, yeah.
But and then it was clarified like something about her
parents. And she was like, yeah, no, no,
we started like it was, I've known him since like summer of
that of last year. It was such a like nebulous,
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just vague, very much unclear conversation that she could the
fact that she relayed that back to this pregnant lady, like,
and, and this pregnant lady Lindsay, I'm, I'm only saying
like this pregnant lady because like, shouldn't she be chilling?
Like when I'm, when I'm pregnant, I expect no one to
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come to me about anything. They couldn't stress me out
whatsoever. I don't, I don't know if that's
unrealistic, but that's where I'm at.
I'm sure life will slap me in the face, but I but I surely in,
in at, at this stage in my life of all the pregnant people that
I know, I don't. I certainly don't go out of my
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way. If I'm going to stress them out,
I'm going to know the details before I do so.
And they got to be accurate. So that interaction with Lil
Lily was not enough to to be doing all of that.
So she tells so. So Lindsay walks away from her
conversation with Gabby, thinking that Carl has
definitely started talking to Lil or Lily before they ever
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entered their relationship. And she's fucking fired up.
She's fucking fired up. She's ready to tussle.
She's ready to tussle. And Carl doesn't know the heat
that's coming to him, but Lily GAO AKA Joe in a different font,
like those two very much have the same aura.
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The the Instagram account your mom's are watching, I believe,
said it that her and Joe are basically the same person.
And I, I completely agree. Like, you know, he described her
as quirky. Kill me, kill me if a man that
I'm interested ever describes meas quirky.
Not that it's like a bad thing to be described as it's just
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it's just not the energy I thinkI'm bringing forth into this
world and I would not appreciateit any who's all and what was I
saying? Oh, so it is relate to Lindsay
that she that Carl had started talking to this girl prior to
ever breaking up with her. So Lil today pops up on her
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Instagram and does a screenshot because she had said and then I
slid into his DMS and she goes ascreenshot of the DM the the
beginning of it and it says October and he broke up with her
in September. So she said something very
sassy. She was like, I don't know why
you went to school, but where I went to school, I learned that
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like October comes after September and like tea.
She is not wrong and she's sassy.
I like it. I like it.
That was like that was that was the clap back.
That was not Joe. That was not Joe energy Joe is
nonsense. There's never been a connecting
thought or idea. The there's darkness, right?
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Not not so much with all she she's just like a quirky gal who
makes her own clothes. And Oh my God, some of the
comments that I saw, because in the episode she had this like
matching set on and Carl was like, oh, you look so cute.
And she was like, I made it. And there were a lot of comments
saying, yeah, we can tell. And just like, shut the fuck up.
OK, She was she's crafty. Could you do that?
She said there might be a few, afew rogue Bob like pins keeping
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it together. But like, have you seen some of
these like influencer brands? I'm sure.
And and she did that for like $7.00 from Jones Fabrics.
OK, these influencers are gluingfabrics together, calling them
like cute matching sets, charging you 100 bucks.
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Let Lil live, let Lil leave anyways, so they she obviously
Carl was not cheating on her. Carl, Carl, I don't know I don't
know, but I, I pray that he finds success in all of his
endeavors. OK, let's leave it at that.
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I do. And I just, I know I the heat
that's coming for him is, is she's activated and she's got
this pregnancy hormone. So I feel like that might be
like superpower stuff. So, and how, how much can you
yell back at a pregnant woman? Right?
So you just kind of got to sit there and take it.
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So good luck taking the lashingsfor something you did not do,
Carl. Yikes.
All right, what else happened inthat episode?
Jesse Solomon, Why the fuck is he even trying?
Why are you trying to date this woman?
Someone, I can't remember who itwas on Instagram, I saw it was
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like, he's evolving her. And I'm like, Oh yeah, that's
actually what this is. Because does this man are
they're clearly not together now, right?
I do not think that they are together because this is not the
Bachelor. They don't have to hide the
status of their lives right now because of the storyline of
what's occurring on Summer House.
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You know, it's not a will they or won't they?
They would be very clearly together in life.
Like we would be able to tell they'd be boyfriend and
girlfriend at this point almost a year later, but that's not the
case. And like Paige just sat in the
after show. She was like, oh, Jesse's texted
me five times being like, I can't wait since the breakup was
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announced with her and Craig. Like he's like, oh, I can't
wait. Are you so excited for the
summer? If he was still with Lexi, that
would not be a thing. So obviously they are not
together anymore. So obviously Lexi will be back
next season and that will be Oh my God, he's going to have his W
Sierra season. This is this is almost like
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poetry. You know, he the toe thing.
I actually based on nothing but my gut.
Alla Garcelle. I think that it was more than
just like a toe suck because he he was in there for 37 seconds.
I don't think it was a he he toesuck.
I think it was a I don't know and Imbrul said he wanted to
stay and watch and Imbrul I fully believe saying that is
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what to I don't know what what is the girl that left and and
came back in this like that thatghost of castmates past ish and
she came in with Lexi. What the fuck is her name
anyways? Bitch why would I even know
she's been here for Winifred. What is it?
OK anyways, so I think that him Emerald's saying to whatever
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whoever that Jesse had a toe in his mouth was definitely pushed
by production, right? Although I still think that this
is going to be Emerald's last season.
He's giving one and done. It can't just be about you
bringing random women home. You got there has to be some
some spice within like the houseand with the cast mates, But I
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I'm motherfucking grass the toe thing.
So I don't think that emerald had would have like thrown him
under the bus or just brought itup if if it wasn't pushed by
production. He doesn't strike me as that
kind of guy, but I don't. But as he said that, he also
said that Jesse wanted to watch.So Jesse was in that room for 37
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minutes. So he might not have partaking
with them, but he might have been partaking in a different
way, if you know what I mean, ifyou know what I mean.
Like I don't I would put my money on that is what happened
because like, I mean, and he's not just watching there being
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like, oh, interesting, like taking notes, like enroll.
I don't really do it like, I don't know, interesting.
How do you get your leg that way?
That's not no, it was no, he wasan active non contact
participant is what I think. All right, and that's as far as
I'm gonna go with that. But I'd also like to Oh my God,
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the animation also I I guess I did have more to talk about.
All right, anyways, so I did mention this before, the
relationship between Sierra and West last summer and Jesse and
Lexi this summer, I feel like they're very much mimicking and
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mirroring one another. I think that Jesse's doing a lot
more gaslighting than W did. I think it was a more normal
progression given Oh my God in the after show, Lexi said that
it was that weekend that was on this episode that she was that
Jesse told her I love said I love you.
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He said I love you too. Her guys.
Jesse told that girl I love you either the weekend of that
kickball game or the weekend before when he was telling her
about the weekend that he was sosucked without telling her about
the toe sucking like he that if that's not that's literal love
bumming. You've known her for Max a month
at that point. But to be fair, with my last
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relationship, it was a solid twomonths before we said I love
you. I said I love you first.
He set it back. Thank God.
I mean, he's alive. Yeah.
I wish. No, that was not a joke.
Any who's all. So that's like a fucking
definition of love bombing. He, she, I I commend Lexie for
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being like, bitch, this is what I want.
This is, these are the rules. If you can follow the rules,
then we can do this, He said I can follow the rules.
I want to follow the rules. He's lying.
He's gonna have sex with her, just like Wes had sex with
Sierra, and then he's going to break her sweet little Canadian
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heart. How about loot?
It's inevitable. It's it's literally completely,
it's history is absolutely repeating itself.
So it's, I just, I don't foreseeanything good coming from that.
Yeah. And I think that's all for
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Summer House. I believe he told Lexie Emerald.
Oh, I also think, I think this is Gabby's last season.
I hate to say it. But I gotta say it like, I think
this is Gabby's last season. The only I was trying to think
of the last time, like Gabby puta little pep in my step.
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Like I went, oh, like, oh, that's all science.
And it was when Gabby and Danielle had their little had
their little tiff when Danielle was throwing herself at the
balloon guy. If you guys recall when Bravo
did her so dirty and showed far too much of the them hooking up,
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you know it was not good. I wouldn't I I would take a
break. I would take a pause after that
as well. Honestly, like someone in
production doesn't fucking like her.
Can you? I have never, I have never my
puritanical ass. But truly, I was going to talk
about David Beckham's like ex mistress, but I don't think
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there's really much there. I mean, if you didn't know,
David Beckham, his ex assistant came forward a long time ago
about a night where Victoria wasout of town and she and David
went out to some club and he seduced the pants off of her,
literally. And she came forward to the
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press not very long after, obviously.
And now, like, I think maybe decades later, she's come out
again saying I just really want people to believe me.
And my take on this is I think people believed you before.
Like, I I think that you are telling the truth.
I just think that people don't really care anymore.
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My take is if if Victoria doesn't care, I don't care.
Like, she's stayed with this manand she seems happy and she's
not. She doesn't seem to be asking
for our help. OK, Like, I don't understand
what the point of bringing it upagain is.
Unless she's claiming that she was like coerced or something
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nefarious is afoot, then please.But just to no, like, we know,
OK. And that's truly how I feel
about that. Like he's denying it still.
OK, Like, sure. I don't know.
Is he a St. I don't think so.
I didn't expect him to. Like I I just don't think the
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public cares and I think that this is something that I didn't
read myself, but it was regaled to me within I think another
podcast. I don't know which one it was.
Maybe it was Heather McDonald. Anyways, she was interviewed
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about what it was that was like,very hard about the fallout from
people finding out about the affair between her and David
Beckham. And she said something along the
lines of it was really hard or she gained some celebrity along
the way. It wasn't a Monica Lewinsky
situation where she was just like, shoved away and like, she
hid and became a hermit. I mean, I guess after her purse
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line that just popped into my brain and I didn't remember that
before she Monica Lewinsky had ahad like a did like a bag thing.
Anyways, Monica Lewinsky was didn't gain.
She became infamous. She did not become like famous.
This girl became kind of like seedless celebrity famous for a
bet. And she said that when that
started to fade away, that was pretty tough for her.
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And I found that respectable. I appreciate that honesty.
Like she wasn't like, oh, I really loved him and he did me
wrong. He, she said talking about it
got me some, got me some press and made me somewhat of a
household name in the UK. And that when people stop caring
as much, then that was kind of, that was hard to get used to.
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And I, I enjoy that kind of honesty because good better her
that than her making it something else in order to stay
relevant. So, but that's really all I
that's that's how I feel about that.
If you guys disagree and find her to be some kind of like, I
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don't know, sympathetic character, Not that I'm not a
sympathetic character. I just don't.
It feels like a nothing burger. OK, next what I do want to talk
about is the Real Housewives of Beverly of Beverly Bells, The
Real Housewives of Beverly Hillsre you yet Part 1.
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I would like to say within the 1st 10 minutes of this episode,
I was like, oh, this is going tobe a tough one for Garcelle.
They came, they came locked and loaded.
All right. Honestly, I knew it was going to
be good. I really enjoyed that when we
started off with with with it felt like Dorit was was what is
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it called? Was it deposing Kyle?
It she was like, oh, Kyle, oh, when OK, I remember this.
Andy asked, do you feel, Kyle, that that Dorit was playing it
up and being extra aggressive because she was afraid for her
position on the show? And Kyle said at times I kind of
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did. I kind of did.
I'm sorry. And then Dorit was like, oh, so
you're really good friend. Like she literally lawyered her.
She was like, so you're very good friends with executives and
like higher ups at Bravo, right?And Kyle was like Ken.
So she was like, so you you would know things about casting
and whatnot before they happened.
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Like, you would know if my job was on the line.
And Kyle was like, yeah, which Ithink is actually kind of
fucking crazy. I don't think that's fun or
fair. And also, like, who the fuck?
What bodies does Kyle know about?
How has she embedded herself so deeply within Bravo that she's
fucking untouchable? She's miserable doing this job
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by the way. She looks like she looks
miserable 70% of the time. I am so glad that she has found
sobriety and I think that sobriety has potentially found
her like greater happiness within her life off camera.
But I think it has made being oncamera and being on reality to
be painful at like literally shelooks like she's pained by this
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entire thing. So I and I don't know, she's as
far as I know, she's rich as hell.
I don't know why she continues doing the show.
Obviously the fame of it all matters to her, right?
And her tagline this season is the Hills Have Eyes and they're
all on me. And she's been very vocal about
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how she doesn't like being followed.
And it's just like all a bit much with her, with her
relationship, her her marriage ending in the Morgan Wallin and
lesbian stuff like, and I think she's she's like she's having a
hard time with all of the eyes that are watching her.
But obviously you want the eyes watching you because you were
doing the show and you don't have to do this show, but she'd
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do it anyways. And I would feel so fucking.
How do you expect people to havea normal relationship, authentic
relationship with Kyle if she issomewhat on a pedestal on the
back end? I feel like Lisa Vanderpump,
there was a bit of that. Perhaps that was why Kyle was up
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her ass for so long, but I don'tknow.
I would find that a bit unsettling in general.
But any result, I digress. Dorit was like, so you would
know and she was like, so but that wasn't the case, was it?
And she was like, Kyle was like,right?
They that wasn't the case. So Kyle, why would you think
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that I was acting up for the cameras?
If you yourself said that you would know if my job was, you
know, on the line, like why would I?
Why would you think I was actingup for the cameras trying to
save my job if you knew that that wasn't even an issue.
And she was and Kyle was gagged.She was gooped.
She was gagged, duh. She was like, that's just how I
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feel. And that was that it was done.
There was nowhere else to go. And that set the tone, that set
the tone for the rest of the fucking reunion.
And then after that, we, we shifted to Garcelle and Garcelle
had herself a time and I put a TikTok out yesterday where I
said, is it not insane that Garcelle would on national
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television accuse Dorit's familyof, of orchestrating the what's
it called again, the home invasion where she has all of
this PTSD and drama from? Is it not insane that Garcelle
is just saying that she believesthat Doreen's family
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orchestrated this whole thing based on only her gut?
Is that not fucking crazy? And a lot of people were like,
no, actually it's not crazy at all because a lot of people
think it. And I even said I don't blame
her for fucking thinking it, butshe knows her.
She's in her circle. This is a person that you have
to interact with. And it's such a reckless
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allegation, I believe to throw out there without any any
information. And then it makes me wonder to
what end? Like, what is OK Magnum, Pi?
If you don't think it's Dorit and you, that means that Dorit
is obviously a victim, right? Because and you were like, oh,
what? This is the part that really
confused me as well. Dorit was like, oh, so you're
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saying she said I don't think it's Dorit.
I never said it was Dorit. I don't believe it's Dorit.
And Dorit was like, well then you're saying it's P, then
you're saying it's PK. And she was like and Garcelle
goes, I never said it was PKI, never said it was PK.
Don't put words in my mouth. OK girl?
Who the hell else did it? Who?
Who are you? Who the ghost of Christmas past?
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Was it Jagger? I don't know.
Did Andy come in? I don't.
I don't know Boy George. Was it Boy George?
I don't know who it could possibly be if it wasn't.
So obviously she is implying that it is PK and what she has
is all the information that the public has at this point.
And that is absolutely not enough.
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You might think it's fishy, right?
But that is not enough to just outright say, I, I think that
your husband or your family set this up, especially when you
think that she wouldn't know andis also a victim to the
circumstance. I just don't understand what the
point of it is. And I and just strategically, it
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sets her up for too much. It sets her up for too much.
Because the reasonable thing forall of those women to do is to
say that's too much and that's what they're going to do.
And she should expect that. And Sutton's not going to back
her up. And good for Sutton.
That's a that's a suicide mission.
You're asking for her to throw herself into the fiery pits of
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Mordor. Don't do it, Sutton.
Don't do it. Dear Lord.
So I won't like listen, a lot ofpeople, some lovely lady put in
my comments that people really struggle to hold Garcelle
accountable because of the kind of pedestal that that people
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black women, at least myself, I have her on somewhat of a
pedestal have about her. Like she represents a lot.
She represents a shift in the housewife franchise, especially
with like the echelon that Beverly Hills is, you know, and
the she, the vibe changed in a good way after she she came
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aboard. So a lot of people just don't
want to fuck with that. And even if they disagree with
her, they won't bring it up. But I I think that kind of does
that. That feels dishonest and it and
I, I can't do that well, so I'm just not going to.
I'm just going to be honest. And I will say that this is
certainly not I love her and it's certainly not enough to
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make me hop off of the Garcelle train.
I still love her down. She's wonderful.
I just don't agree with this move.
But guess what? I'm already past it.
I'm already past it. Next topic.
OK, what is the problem with Duma not having Duma?
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Duma, ma Duma. OK.
What is the problem with Jumoa not having black friends?
Listen, I think it's weird to not have a multicultural friend
group, especially when you live in a multicultural area.
It's weird. It's a choice.
I believe that it's a it's a choice that you make.
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It doesn't happen to you if and I do not believe that someone
who has chosen whilst living in the most like OK, let me start
this over. Why is it a problem that Dumois
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doesn't have any black friends? I'll tell ya, I don't think that
anyone who lives in a multicultural area like Cal,
like, you know, California, Los Angeles, at least New York or
the tri-state area and they don't have a multicultural
friend group. That's a choice.
That's an absolute choice. I, I, I said like you're not
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living in, in the, a dairy farm in Wisconsin.
And like almost immediately someone commented and said I
live on a dairy farm in Wisconsin and I have plenty of
black friends That's not an excuse.
And that made me lol because like I expected it I just didn't
expect it to happen like within the 1st 5 minutes of me posting
that video. But any who's all, I think it's
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a choice and I don't think she should go out and like try and
seek out a a black friend because, you know, she's people
are telling her to or I don't know, she feels like the need to
fill some quota. But I think she should reflect
on herself and try and figure out why it is that she's living
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in the places that she has the most diverse parts of this
country. She hasn't managed to make a
single like real connection witha black person.
I think it's weird, especially in the industry that she's in
fashion and media and in 20 in like the twenty 20s, It's weird.
I think it's fucking weird. And the reason why I unfollowed
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her is she is disseminating information, although it is
unverified random message board,anonymous nonsense, like you
cannot put any, any, any weight on anything that comes from that
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account. I followed her more so because I
enjoyed the way she followed award shows and she was very
good about taking, about gettingthe pictures of these actresses
or singers who were doing the red carpet up like real quick.
So I very much appreciated her for that.
I'm going to miss that. But you know, page 6 is fine.
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Page 6 is great. They're gigglers, I can tell.
So we like, so she disseminates information, albeit not like the
most important information in the world.
But I don't want anything that I'm consuming, my gossip even to
be filtered through someone who has avoided black people in the
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most diverse places in this country for her whole entire
life. I don't.
I just, and I, you know, and at this point, I think leave it.
I think at this point, you know what, we're better off anyways.
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That's why I feel that way. And that's all that's all I have
to say about that. The last thing that I do want to
talk about, OK, is, you know, that girl who made the video
about like, New York City influencers are so boring.
They're all the same. They all look the same.
They all have the same little hand chains and they're all
blonde and stupid and blah, blah, blah.
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And then Acquired Style took that picture, that video, and
like did a cute little duet withit where she was just like
posing to each insult. It was cute.
Oh, made me laugh. Like it was the best thing that
you do with that, right? I mean, I would have done the
same shit. She got fired.
Turns out she works for like a big luxury fashion brand And the
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reason why she went online and she said to like her my 90
followers, the reason why I madethat video is because we all
work with the same girls all thetime.
And it's just like it's just I was boring and I hate it and
blah blah blah. And I was like I was shocked
when I saw in the beginning thatshe got fired for that video
period. But when she said that she works
in luxury fashion and that like her company works and it's like
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a big brand, her company works with these these exact
influencers that she's insultingall the time.
I was like, well, should I delete this comment being like,
Oh my God, I'm sorry girl, because that's the dumbest thing
ever. No, it's stupid as hell.
What are you doing? You, you made a choice.
I I would have done that if maybe no, I wouldn't have done
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that under under circumstances, because I still want to leave on
a positive note and I would wanta reference or whatever, but
like it just and she I looked and her The thing is her
account, she doesn't even have 10,000 followers.
And I only say that because that's when you get monetized on
TikTok. So that video went super viral
and I can under I was like, I can understand not taking it
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down. It's decent money for a couple
million views, right? She's not even monetized right
so oh nothing. She got nothing like except no
job. Oh my God that.
But I struggle to feel bad for her because she knew this was
not the kind of thing that you put on the Internet.
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You don't disparage the clients or the stakeholders or brand
partners of your company online in a forum that could go
incredibly viral, where millionsof people will see, including
almost immediately, the exact people that your company does
(39:29):
not want to see. What so I'm I hope you have a
back up plan. I hope you have savings, but
this is this was an unforced error of incredible magnitude.
But you did start a a great conversation.
I think my favorite like think piece and and like thought.
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Then I think there was there wasa lot of parallel thought in
this vein that your algorithm, the algorithm.
Works towards your brain, right?So it's a reflection of what
you're interacting with, what you're engaging with.
So if your algorithm is showing you boring bitches, it's because
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you're a boring bitch. If your algorithm is showing you
basic bitches, it's because in here, deep down in a place that
you do not want to admit, you are said boring bitch who wants
the acceptance of those ladies. Those those ladies that are just
(40:39):
living their fucking Pinterest life doing their day in life.
Go into Pilates or hot whatever Tracy Anderson hand chain just
Hallie cake core what what not. You know, there's part of you
that must, must really give a fuck about them because your
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algorithm, your, your FYP is full of them.
That means you're only engaging with them.
So if you would engage with people who look different or who
provided you different content, like you obviously care about
fashion, luxury, lifestyle, OOTDS, shit like that, right
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There are the vast major they'rethey're not all blunt.
And I'm specifically talking about like New New Yorkers.
There are there are different there are so many plus size, mid
size specifically like fashion influencers that that are in New
York City, that live in New YorkCity that would that do deserve
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large followings who don't fit the molds.
How many of them do you fucking follow?
I would love to hear that from her.
How and if this is something that you care about.
What? You're just waiting.
I don't believe her. I guess I just like something
inside me just doesn't buy. What the fuck She's selling what
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she's saying. She sounds like a hater.
And yeah, I guess I'm not so sadthat she lost her job.
No, no, that's bad. That's bad, Sarah.
I hope she finds finds her way. And I hope she, I don't know,
diversifies her own following list.
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It starts at home. OK.
The call is coming from inside the house, babe.
Leave Hallie Kate out of it. Leave Hallie and her weenies out
of it. She just adopted a deaf
dachshund named Rusty. All right, it's going to take a
it's going to take a lot then more than I think the blonde
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ones are boring. OK, then find another one.
You don't need to only follow fashion influencers with like
3,000,000. Plus you can't control who is
signing up, who your company is working with.
OK. What would have been helpful is
if you potentially stayed aroundlong enough to not be so
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disposable and actually make decisions where you could
influence who is being featured or who these big luxury brands
are working with. But no, that's not what you did.
That's not what you did. I don't know.
I just like goal oriented work. And if there is no purpose, I
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mean, she did start, she did start a conversation, an
important conversation that I ended with.
This is an her internal problem.So am I wrong?
Let me know. All right, that's all I got for
you today, especially considering this is the second
time I'm doing this. So if this is a little late, you
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know what? I'm not going to edit this shit.
This. You get what you get.
You get what you motherfucking get.
All right, it's it's insane thatI'm even putting this up to
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(45:30):
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I haven't returned. I haven't returned a an item I
don't know since 2022. I'm just kidding, not 2022, but
it's been like I do. I return things like twice a
year and it's because I don't know.
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I'm like my B12 levels are good that day.
I don't know. It happens very rarely, but I
fucking digress. I'm sorry, please.
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I was doing so well this entire episode.
I have no idea how I did 45 minutes without losing my train
of thought at like they at all and saying goodbye.
I'm like, what am I doing here again?
I'm Saron, by the way. Nice to meet you.
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Welcome to Saron Things, pop culture podcaster.
We chitchat about this week's trending topics, at least the
ones that I care about. I am your host, Saron Al Kaba.
How are y'all doing? I promise I'm not going to start
every podcast like that. I have no idea why that comes so
naturally. Like that's the first thing that
comes out of my mouth and I it'soff brand.
(00:34):
I don't use the word y'all in myeveryday vernacular.
So you're right to be weirded out if you are OK any who's all
I just must I must say the podcasting, the back end
technical stuff, it's hard. It's not easy.
It's not easy. So give the people who are doing
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this on their own without like without a producer some fucking
credit because my God has this been a journey.
I somehow recorded like in 45 minute episode without any
sound. I how does one do that?
How do you do that? I don't know, but I did I did.
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I tried to find the sound everywhere I looked, everywhere.
I I up, down, all around. It was nowhere.
It was nowhere. So now we're doing this all over
again and I don't know. I, I, I don't know.
I got a beer because that's the only way I can do this again.
(01:38):
And who knows if I'll even fucking edit this shit.
I I can't, I can't think about this anymore, OK?
I can't think about this anymore.
I need to calm my energy down. I have animals to think about.
They can't feel this radiating off of me.
I think of the kids are on. OK so let's just dive head on
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1st into the pop culture stuff. I just finished watching Summer
House so that is very much top of mind.
The episode very much was about Carl's launching his soft bar.
And if you recall last season when Carlito and Lindsay were
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still an item, he like pitched her this like non alcoholic
sports bar that she just shot down, rightfully fucking so.
And he even admitted in the after show for this episode that
she was absolutely right about that.
So that's good. But he decided to take the same
vibe in a different direction. Still a non alcoholic, you know,
(02:47):
Brick and order establishment, but like a cafe and oh, they
said he said something about like mushrooms.
I feel like we glazed right overthat in this episode.
They were like, if you want to add a friend on to the drink.
So Carl threw a a party for his new non alcoholic bar, whatever
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non alcoholic bar, I guess called soft House.
And I think it's a fucking incredible name.
He told a story in the after show about how he was going to
name it something stupid like something soft house, like
adjective soft house, because heassumed soft house had already
been taken, right? And so they were.
He was in the process of trademarking like the original
(03:38):
name and it was taken, I believe, or someone, I don't
know how they ended up doing this, but the person who was
doing the trade marking was justlike, do you want to try and see
if you can get the trademark forSoft House?
And Carl was like, there's no way.
But the trademark person was like, let's look.
And it turned out that the trademark for Soft House had
(03:59):
just, and like had just expired that day.
So of course they jumped on it. And so he has trademarked this
like ABS fucking. I mean, it couldn't be a better
name for what he's trying to create.
That being said, am I wary aboutthe product, about the whole
concept? Absolutely.
But Oh my God, no, I digress. There he threw this party for to
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like, launch the drink. It was like a tester, friends
and family a la like Schwartz and Sandy's.
You know what I mean? Like, you know, how they had
people coming in for a very longtime before they opened just to
like have something tangible that I guess they could film.
That is exactly what has happened here.
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And at that like mixer function that he threw at friends and
family soft launch for soft house that he threw in in New
Jersey. He, he, there was a moment where
he was like, oh, do you want to add like a friend to your drink?
And, and he said something aboutmushrooms.
And I don't know if he's we're talking like psilocybin or if
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we're talking, you know, ashwagandha, because those are
two different, two different experiences.
All right, One you can get on Amazon, the other not, although
it is legal in Washington, DC. So they so you can't acquire
that legally, I believe, I believe, don't quote me actually
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Google that before you, before you make any moves.
OK, Anyways, so Soft House is a thing.
Will it be a successful thing? I don't know.
The mushroom part kind of put a little reinvigorated my hope for
it because at least there's a little something, something
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that's going to be going on. Otherwise, just say you're open
in a fucking cafe. Just call it a cafe.
I like the branding for that a lot better.
You know, you can, you can franchise that shit.
Who knows? But I don't know.
I don't know. Especially if like if you're
going to be selling mocktails that are the same fucking price
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as cocktails. I feel like that's such a hard
sell. That's such a hard sell.
And if you're not doing that, how are you going to make up
that margin? But he's saying he's going to be
selling coffee as well. Oh no, the psilocybin.
OK. If it's psilocybin, I see how
you make up the margin. I see.
I see if it's Ashwagandha. I'm sorry, Boo Joshua Nanda, as
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long as I'm laughing, guys, it'sall about OK.
So oh, oh, so in the episode Carl said something about, oh,
we hope to have doors open and they're like brick and mortar
establishment by January 2025. Obviously that date has passed,
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but in the after show he did saythat they have a lease secured
and that they have a launch likean opening date of this summer.
So that's that's really exciting.
I really actually think this is going to happen.
And he says he's invested 100 fucking $1000 in this USD.
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OK, American dollars $100,000 liquid cash dinero, I don't
know, makes me I don't know. That's a big fucking number.
And that is quite a risk. But he said that he was will
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he's OK with failing. If he doesn't make up that, that
that number, then at least he tried and failed.
And that I'm fucking respect. It's not like a Schwartz and
Sandy's type situation where your mother is giving you her
retirement quarter of $1,000,000just for the fucking place to
close a couple years later. OK, this is a whole, this is a
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different ball game. It's his money.
It's it's money you can lose. He he feels like he can lose and
it is what it is. Oh my God, Speaking of Carl,
fuck is Oh my God, this whole episode was like very Carl
centric and like good for you Queen, good for you Zabooma Foo.
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That's my like nickname for him from now on Zabooma Foo.
I don't remember if that's how the song goes, but it's just
like OK, so oh the girl Lil Lily.
What is Gabby doing and why is she doing it?
OK, I don't understand what thatwas.
That moment that she relayed back to Lindsay was not enough.
(08:53):
You needed you needed more detail.
So there was a moment where Gabby and the girl that Carl is
talking to, Lil standing in a circle with like Emeril.
And he, she's just like casuallytalking about how she knows how
she and Carl met and somehow Carl and her her parents met
prior to her ever meeting. And she is the question was
(09:18):
asked like, oh, so like in the summers when you guys started
talking and she was like, oh, yeah.
But and then it was clarified like something about her
parents. And she was like, yeah, no, no,
we started like it was, I've known him since like summer of
that of last year. It was such a like nebulous,
(09:39):
just vague, very much unclear conversation that she could the
fact that she relayed that back to this pregnant lady, like,
and, and this pregnant lady Lindsay, I'm, I'm only saying
like this pregnant lady because like, shouldn't she be chilling?
Like when I'm, when I'm pregnant, I expect no one to
(10:04):
come to me about anything. They couldn't stress me out
whatsoever. I don't, I don't know if that's
unrealistic, but that's where I'm at.
I'm sure life will slap me in the face, but I but I surely in,
in at, at this stage in my life of all the pregnant people that
I know, I don't. I certainly don't go out of my
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way. If I'm going to stress them out,
I'm going to know the details before I do so.
And they got to be accurate. So that interaction with Lil
Lily was not enough to to be doing all of that.
So she tells so. So Lindsay walks away from her
conversation with Gabby, thinking that Carl has
definitely started talking to Lil or Lily before they ever
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entered their relationship. And she's fucking fired up.
She's fucking fired up. She's ready to tussle.
She's ready to tussle. And Carl doesn't know the heat
that's coming to him, but Lily GAO AKA Joe in a different font,
like those two very much have the same aura.
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The the Instagram account your mom's are watching, I believe,
said it that her and Joe are basically the same person.
And I, I completely agree. Like, you know, he described her
as quirky. Kill me, kill me if a man that
I'm interested ever describes meas quirky.
Not that it's like a bad thing to be described as it's just
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it's just not the energy I thinkI'm bringing forth into this
world and I would not appreciateit any who's all and what was I
saying? Oh, so it is relate to Lindsay
that she that Carl had started talking to this girl prior to
ever breaking up with her. So Lil today pops up on her
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Instagram and does a screenshot because she had said and then I
slid into his DMS and she goes ascreenshot of the DM the the
beginning of it and it says October and he broke up with her
in September. So she said something very
sassy. She was like, I don't know why
you went to school, but where I went to school, I learned that
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like October comes after September and like tea.
She is not wrong and she's sassy.
I like it. I like it.
That was like that was that was the clap back.
That was not Joe. That was not Joe energy Joe is
nonsense. There's never been a connecting
thought or idea. The there's darkness, right?
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Not not so much with all she she's just like a quirky gal who
makes her own clothes. And Oh my God, some of the
comments that I saw, because in the episode she had this like
matching set on and Carl was like, oh, you look so cute.
And she was like, I made it. And there were a lot of comments
saying, yeah, we can tell. And just like, shut the fuck up.
OK, She was she's crafty. Could you do that?
She said there might be a few, afew rogue Bob like pins keeping
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it together. But like, have you seen some of
these like influencer brands? I'm sure.
And and she did that for like $7.00 from Jones Fabrics.
OK, these influencers are gluingfabrics together, calling them
like cute matching sets, charging you 100 bucks.
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Let Lil live, let Lil leave anyways, so they she obviously
Carl was not cheating on her. Carl, Carl, I don't know I don't
know, but I, I pray that he finds success in all of his
endeavors. OK, let's leave it at that.
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I do. And I just, I know I the heat
that's coming for him is, is she's activated and she's got
this pregnancy hormone. So I feel like that might be
like superpower stuff. So, and how, how much can you
yell back at a pregnant woman? Right?
So you just kind of got to sit there and take it.
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So good luck taking the lashingsfor something you did not do,
Carl. Yikes.
All right, what else happened inthat episode?
Jesse Solomon, Why the fuck is he even trying?
Why are you trying to date this woman?
Someone, I can't remember who itwas on Instagram, I saw it was
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like, he's evolving her. And I'm like, Oh yeah, that's
actually what this is. Because does this man are
they're clearly not together now, right?
I do not think that they are together because this is not the
Bachelor. They don't have to hide the
status of their lives right now because of the storyline of
what's occurring on Summer House.
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You know, it's not a will they or won't they?
They would be very clearly together in life.
Like we would be able to tell they'd be boyfriend and
girlfriend at this point almost a year later, but that's not the
case. And like Paige just sat in the
after show. She was like, oh, Jesse's texted
me five times being like, I can't wait since the breakup was
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announced with her and Craig. Like he's like, oh, I can't
wait. Are you so excited for the
summer? If he was still with Lexi, that
would not be a thing. So obviously they are not
together anymore. So obviously Lexi will be back
next season and that will be Oh my God, he's going to have his W
Sierra season. This is this is almost like
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poetry. You know, he the toe thing.
I actually based on nothing but my gut.
Alla Garcelle. I think that it was more than
just like a toe suck because he he was in there for 37 seconds.
I don't think it was a he he toesuck.
I think it was a I don't know and Imbrul said he wanted to
stay and watch and Imbrul I fully believe saying that is
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what to I don't know what what is the girl that left and and
came back in this like that thatghost of castmates past ish and
she came in with Lexi. What the fuck is her name
anyways? Bitch why would I even know
she's been here for Winifred. What is it?
OK anyways, so I think that him Emerald's saying to whatever
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whoever that Jesse had a toe in his mouth was definitely pushed
by production, right? Although I still think that this
is going to be Emerald's last season.
He's giving one and done. It can't just be about you
bringing random women home. You got there has to be some
some spice within like the houseand with the cast mates, But I
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I'm motherfucking grass the toe thing.
So I don't think that emerald had would have like thrown him
under the bus or just brought itup if if it wasn't pushed by
production. He doesn't strike me as that
kind of guy, but I don't. But as he said that, he also
said that Jesse wanted to watch.So Jesse was in that room for 37
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minutes. So he might not have partaking
with them, but he might have been partaking in a different
way, if you know what I mean, ifyou know what I mean.
Like I don't I would put my money on that is what happened
because like, I mean, and he's not just watching there being
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like, oh, interesting, like taking notes, like enroll.
I don't really do it like, I don't know, interesting.
How do you get your leg that way?
That's not no, it was no, he wasan active non contact
participant is what I think. All right, and that's as far as
I'm gonna go with that. But I'd also like to Oh my God,
(17:58):
the animation also I I guess I did have more to talk about.
All right, anyways, so I did mention this before, the
relationship between Sierra and West last summer and Jesse and
Lexi this summer, I feel like they're very much mimicking and
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mirroring one another. I think that Jesse's doing a lot
more gaslighting than W did. I think it was a more normal
progression given Oh my God in the after show, Lexi said that
it was that weekend that was on this episode that she was that
Jesse told her I love said I love you.
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He said I love you too. Her guys.
Jesse told that girl I love you either the weekend of that
kickball game or the weekend before when he was telling her
about the weekend that he was sosucked without telling her about
the toe sucking like he that if that's not that's literal love
bumming. You've known her for Max a month
at that point. But to be fair, with my last
(19:03):
relationship, it was a solid twomonths before we said I love
you. I said I love you first.
He set it back. Thank God.
I mean, he's alive. Yeah.
I wish. No, that was not a joke.
Any who's all. So that's like a fucking
definition of love bombing. He, she, I I commend Lexie for
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being like, bitch, this is what I want.
This is, these are the rules. If you can follow the rules,
then we can do this, He said I can follow the rules.
I want to follow the rules. He's lying.
He's gonna have sex with her, just like Wes had sex with
Sierra, and then he's going to break her sweet little Canadian
(19:52):
heart. How about loot?
It's inevitable. It's it's literally completely,
it's history is absolutely repeating itself.
So it's, I just, I don't foreseeanything good coming from that.
Yeah. And I think that's all for
(20:14):
Summer House. I believe he told Lexie Emerald.
Oh, I also think, I think this is Gabby's last season.
I hate to say it. But I gotta say it like, I think
this is Gabby's last season. The only I was trying to think
of the last time, like Gabby puta little pep in my step.
(20:36):
Like I went, oh, like, oh, that's all science.
And it was when Gabby and Danielle had their little had
their little tiff when Danielle was throwing herself at the
balloon guy. If you guys recall when Bravo
did her so dirty and showed far too much of the them hooking up,
(20:58):
you know it was not good. I wouldn't I I would take a
break. I would take a pause after that
as well. Honestly, like someone in
production doesn't fucking like her.
Can you? I have never, I have never my
puritanical ass. But truly, I was going to talk
about David Beckham's like ex mistress, but I don't think
(21:20):
there's really much there. I mean, if you didn't know,
David Beckham, his ex assistant came forward a long time ago
about a night where Victoria wasout of town and she and David
went out to some club and he seduced the pants off of her,
literally. And she came forward to the
(21:41):
press not very long after, obviously.
And now, like, I think maybe decades later, she's come out
again saying I just really want people to believe me.
And my take on this is I think people believed you before.
Like, I I think that you are telling the truth.
I just think that people don't really care anymore.
(22:01):
My take is if if Victoria doesn't care, I don't care.
Like, she's stayed with this manand she seems happy and she's
not. She doesn't seem to be asking
for our help. OK, Like, I don't understand
what the point of bringing it upagain is.
Unless she's claiming that she was like coerced or something
(22:23):
nefarious is afoot, then please.But just to no, like, we know,
OK. And that's truly how I feel
about that. Like he's denying it still.
OK, Like, sure. I don't know.
Is he a St. I don't think so.
I didn't expect him to. Like I I just don't think the
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public cares and I think that this is something that I didn't
read myself, but it was regaled to me within I think another
podcast. I don't know which one it was.
Maybe it was Heather McDonald. Anyways, she was interviewed
(23:06):
about what it was that was like,very hard about the fallout from
people finding out about the affair between her and David
Beckham. And she said something along the
lines of it was really hard or she gained some celebrity along
the way. It wasn't a Monica Lewinsky
situation where she was just like, shoved away and like, she
hid and became a hermit. I mean, I guess after her purse
(23:29):
line that just popped into my brain and I didn't remember that
before she Monica Lewinsky had ahad like a did like a bag thing.
Anyways, Monica Lewinsky was didn't gain.
She became infamous. She did not become like famous.
This girl became kind of like seedless celebrity famous for a
bet. And she said that when that
started to fade away, that was pretty tough for her.
(23:52):
And I found that respectable. I appreciate that honesty.
Like she wasn't like, oh, I really loved him and he did me
wrong. He, she said talking about it
got me some, got me some press and made me somewhat of a
household name in the UK. And that when people stop caring
as much, then that was kind of, that was hard to get used to.
(24:14):
And I, I enjoy that kind of honesty because good better her
that than her making it something else in order to stay
relevant. So, but that's really all I
that's that's how I feel about that.
If you guys disagree and find her to be some kind of like, I
(24:35):
don't know, sympathetic character, Not that I'm not a
sympathetic character. I just don't.
It feels like a nothing burger. OK, next what I do want to talk
about is the Real Housewives of Beverly of Beverly Bells, The
Real Housewives of Beverly Hillsre you yet Part 1.
(24:57):
I would like to say within the 1st 10 minutes of this episode,
I was like, oh, this is going tobe a tough one for Garcelle.
They came, they came locked and loaded.
All right. Honestly, I knew it was going to
be good. I really enjoyed that when we
started off with with with it felt like Dorit was was what is
(25:20):
it called? Was it deposing Kyle?
It she was like, oh, Kyle, oh, when OK, I remember this.
Andy asked, do you feel, Kyle, that that Dorit was playing it
up and being extra aggressive because she was afraid for her
position on the show? And Kyle said at times I kind of
(25:42):
did. I kind of did.
I'm sorry. And then Dorit was like, oh, so
you're really good friend. Like she literally lawyered her.
She was like, so you're very good friends with executives and
like higher ups at Bravo, right?And Kyle was like Ken.
So she was like, so you you would know things about casting
and whatnot before they happened.
(26:04):
Like, you would know if my job was on the line.
And Kyle was like, yeah, which Ithink is actually kind of
fucking crazy. I don't think that's fun or
fair. And also, like, who the fuck?
What bodies does Kyle know about?
How has she embedded herself so deeply within Bravo that she's
fucking untouchable? She's miserable doing this job
(26:24):
by the way. She looks like she looks
miserable 70% of the time. I am so glad that she has found
sobriety and I think that sobriety has potentially found
her like greater happiness within her life off camera.
But I think it has made being oncamera and being on reality to
be painful at like literally shelooks like she's pained by this
(26:48):
entire thing. So I and I don't know, she's as
far as I know, she's rich as hell.
I don't know why she continues doing the show.
Obviously the fame of it all matters to her, right?
And her tagline this season is the Hills Have Eyes and they're
all on me. And she's been very vocal about
(27:11):
how she doesn't like being followed.
And it's just like all a bit much with her, with her
relationship, her her marriage ending in the Morgan Wallin and
lesbian stuff like, and I think she's she's like she's having a
hard time with all of the eyes that are watching her.
But obviously you want the eyes watching you because you were
doing the show and you don't have to do this show, but she'd
(27:36):
do it anyways. And I would feel so fucking.
How do you expect people to havea normal relationship, authentic
relationship with Kyle if she issomewhat on a pedestal on the
back end? I feel like Lisa Vanderpump,
there was a bit of that. Perhaps that was why Kyle was up
(27:58):
her ass for so long, but I don'tknow.
I would find that a bit unsettling in general.
But any result, I digress. Dorit was like, so you would
know and she was like, so but that wasn't the case, was it?
And she was like, Kyle was like,right?
They that wasn't the case. So Kyle, why would you think
(28:22):
that I was acting up for the cameras?
If you yourself said that you would know if my job was, you
know, on the line, like why would I?
Why would you think I was actingup for the cameras trying to
save my job if you knew that that wasn't even an issue.
And she was and Kyle was gagged.She was gooped.
She was gagged, duh. She was like, that's just how I
(28:45):
feel. And that was that it was done.
There was nowhere else to go. And that set the tone, that set
the tone for the rest of the fucking reunion.
And then after that, we, we shifted to Garcelle and Garcelle
had herself a time and I put a TikTok out yesterday where I
said, is it not insane that Garcelle would on national
(29:08):
television accuse Dorit's familyof, of orchestrating the what's
it called again, the home invasion where she has all of
this PTSD and drama from? Is it not insane that Garcelle
is just saying that she believesthat Doreen's family
(29:31):
orchestrated this whole thing based on only her gut?
Is that not fucking crazy? And a lot of people were like,
no, actually it's not crazy at all because a lot of people
think it. And I even said I don't blame
her for fucking thinking it, butshe knows her.
She's in her circle. This is a person that you have
to interact with. And it's such a reckless
(29:54):
allegation, I believe to throw out there without any any
information. And then it makes me wonder to
what end? Like, what is OK Magnum, Pi?
If you don't think it's Dorit and you, that means that Dorit
is obviously a victim, right? Because and you were like, oh,
what? This is the part that really
confused me as well. Dorit was like, oh, so you're
(30:15):
saying she said I don't think it's Dorit.
I never said it was Dorit. I don't believe it's Dorit.
And Dorit was like, well then you're saying it's P, then
you're saying it's PK. And she was like and Garcelle
goes, I never said it was PKI, never said it was PK.
Don't put words in my mouth. OK girl?
Who the hell else did it? Who?
Who are you? Who the ghost of Christmas past?
(30:38):
Was it Jagger? I don't know.
Did Andy come in? I don't.
I don't know Boy George. Was it Boy George?
I don't know who it could possibly be if it wasn't.
So obviously she is implying that it is PK and what she has
is all the information that the public has at this point.
And that is absolutely not enough.
(31:00):
You might think it's fishy, right?
But that is not enough to just outright say, I, I think that
your husband or your family set this up, especially when you
think that she wouldn't know andis also a victim to the
circumstance. I just don't understand what the
point of it is. And I and just strategically, it
(31:22):
sets her up for too much. It sets her up for too much.
Because the reasonable thing forall of those women to do is to
say that's too much and that's what they're going to do.
And she should expect that. And Sutton's not going to back
her up. And good for Sutton.
That's a that's a suicide mission.
You're asking for her to throw herself into the fiery pits of
(31:43):
Mordor. Don't do it, Sutton.
Don't do it. Dear Lord.
So I won't like listen, a lot ofpeople, some lovely lady put in
my comments that people really struggle to hold Garcelle
accountable because of the kind of pedestal that that people
(32:07):
black women, at least myself, I have her on somewhat of a
pedestal have about her. Like she represents a lot.
She represents a shift in the housewife franchise, especially
with like the echelon that Beverly Hills is, you know, and
the she, the vibe changed in a good way after she she came
(32:30):
aboard. So a lot of people just don't
want to fuck with that. And even if they disagree with
her, they won't bring it up. But I I think that kind of does
that. That feels dishonest and it and
I, I can't do that well, so I'm just not going to.
I'm just going to be honest. And I will say that this is
certainly not I love her and it's certainly not enough to
(32:52):
make me hop off of the Garcelle train.
I still love her down. She's wonderful.
I just don't agree with this move.
But guess what? I'm already past it.
I'm already past it. Next topic.
OK, what is the problem with Duma not having Duma?
(33:14):
Duma, ma Duma. OK.
What is the problem with Jumoa not having black friends?
Listen, I think it's weird to not have a multicultural friend
group, especially when you live in a multicultural area.
It's weird. It's a choice.
I believe that it's a it's a choice that you make.
(33:37):
It doesn't happen to you if and I do not believe that someone
who has chosen whilst living in the most like OK, let me start
this over. Why is it a problem that Dumois
(33:58):
doesn't have any black friends? I'll tell ya, I don't think that
anyone who lives in a multicultural area like Cal,
like, you know, California, Los Angeles, at least New York or
the tri-state area and they don't have a multicultural
friend group. That's a choice.
That's an absolute choice. I, I, I said like you're not
(34:22):
living in, in the, a dairy farm in Wisconsin.
And like almost immediately someone commented and said I
live on a dairy farm in Wisconsin and I have plenty of
black friends That's not an excuse.
And that made me lol because like I expected it I just didn't
expect it to happen like within the 1st 5 minutes of me posting
that video. But any who's all, I think it's
(34:44):
a choice and I don't think she should go out and like try and
seek out a a black friend because, you know, she's people
are telling her to or I don't know, she feels like the need to
fill some quota. But I think she should reflect
on herself and try and figure out why it is that she's living
(35:05):
in the places that she has the most diverse parts of this
country. She hasn't managed to make a
single like real connection witha black person.
I think it's weird, especially in the industry that she's in
fashion and media and in 20 in like the twenty 20s, It's weird.
I think it's fucking weird. And the reason why I unfollowed
(35:27):
her is she is disseminating information, although it is
unverified random message board,anonymous nonsense, like you
cannot put any, any, any weight on anything that comes from that
(35:48):
account. I followed her more so because I
enjoyed the way she followed award shows and she was very
good about taking, about gettingthe pictures of these actresses
or singers who were doing the red carpet up like real quick.
So I very much appreciated her for that.
I'm going to miss that. But you know, page 6 is fine.
(36:09):
Page 6 is great. They're gigglers, I can tell.
So we like, so she disseminates information, albeit not like the
most important information in the world.
But I don't want anything that I'm consuming, my gossip even to
be filtered through someone who has avoided black people in the
(36:34):
most diverse places in this country for her whole entire
life. I don't.
I just, and I, you know, and at this point, I think leave it.
I think at this point, you know what, we're better off anyways.
(36:54):
That's why I feel that way. And that's all that's all I have
to say about that. The last thing that I do want to
talk about, OK, is, you know, that girl who made the video
about like, New York City influencers are so boring.
They're all the same. They all look the same.
They all have the same little hand chains and they're all
blonde and stupid and blah, blah, blah.
(37:15):
And then Acquired Style took that picture, that video, and
like did a cute little duet withit where she was just like
posing to each insult. It was cute.
Oh, made me laugh. Like it was the best thing that
you do with that, right? I mean, I would have done the
same shit. She got fired.
Turns out she works for like a big luxury fashion brand And the
(37:38):
reason why she went online and she said to like her my 90
followers, the reason why I madethat video is because we all
work with the same girls all thetime.
And it's just like it's just I was boring and I hate it and
blah blah blah. And I was like I was shocked
when I saw in the beginning thatshe got fired for that video
period. But when she said that she works
in luxury fashion and that like her company works and it's like
(38:02):
a big brand, her company works with these these exact
influencers that she's insultingall the time.
I was like, well, should I delete this comment being like,
Oh my God, I'm sorry girl, because that's the dumbest thing
ever. No, it's stupid as hell.
What are you doing? You, you made a choice.
I I would have done that if maybe no, I wouldn't have done
(38:24):
that under under circumstances, because I still want to leave on
a positive note and I would wanta reference or whatever, but
like it just and she I looked and her The thing is her
account, she doesn't even have 10,000 followers.
And I only say that because that's when you get monetized on
TikTok. So that video went super viral
and I can under I was like, I can understand not taking it
(38:47):
down. It's decent money for a couple
million views, right? She's not even monetized right
so oh nothing. She got nothing like except no
job. Oh my God that.
But I struggle to feel bad for her because she knew this was
not the kind of thing that you put on the Internet.
(39:09):
You don't disparage the clients or the stakeholders or brand
partners of your company online in a forum that could go
incredibly viral, where millionsof people will see, including
almost immediately, the exact people that your company does
(39:29):
not want to see. What so I'm I hope you have a
back up plan. I hope you have savings, but
this is this was an unforced error of incredible magnitude.
But you did start a a great conversation.
I think my favorite like think piece and and like thought.
(39:51):
Then I think there was there wasa lot of parallel thought in
this vein that your algorithm, the algorithm.
Works towards your brain, right?So it's a reflection of what
you're interacting with, what you're engaging with.
So if your algorithm is showing you boring bitches, it's because
(40:16):
you're a boring bitch. If your algorithm is showing you
basic bitches, it's because in here, deep down in a place that
you do not want to admit, you are said boring bitch who wants
the acceptance of those ladies. Those those ladies that are just
(40:39):
living their fucking Pinterest life doing their day in life.
Go into Pilates or hot whatever Tracy Anderson hand chain just
Hallie cake core what what not. You know, there's part of you
that must, must really give a fuck about them because your
(41:05):
algorithm, your, your FYP is full of them.
That means you're only engaging with them.
So if you would engage with people who look different or who
provided you different content, like you obviously care about
fashion, luxury, lifestyle, OOTDS, shit like that, right
(41:25):
There are the vast major they'rethey're not all blunt.
And I'm specifically talking about like New New Yorkers.
There are there are different there are so many plus size, mid
size specifically like fashion influencers that that are in New
York City, that live in New YorkCity that would that do deserve
(41:47):
large followings who don't fit the molds.
How many of them do you fucking follow?
I would love to hear that from her.
How and if this is something that you care about.
What? You're just waiting.
I don't believe her. I guess I just like something
inside me just doesn't buy. What the fuck She's selling what
(42:10):
she's saying. She sounds like a hater.
And yeah, I guess I'm not so sadthat she lost her job.
No, no, that's bad. That's bad, Sarah.
I hope she finds finds her way. And I hope she, I don't know,
diversifies her own following list.
(42:31):
It starts at home. OK.
The call is coming from inside the house, babe.
Leave Hallie Kate out of it. Leave Hallie and her weenies out
of it. She just adopted a deaf
dachshund named Rusty. All right, it's going to take a
it's going to take a lot then more than I think the blonde
(42:54):
ones are boring. OK, then find another one.
You don't need to only follow fashion influencers with like
3,000,000. Plus you can't control who is
signing up, who your company is working with.
OK. What would have been helpful is
if you potentially stayed aroundlong enough to not be so
(43:15):
disposable and actually make decisions where you could
influence who is being featured or who these big luxury brands
are working with. But no, that's not what you did.
That's not what you did. I don't know.
I just like goal oriented work. And if there is no purpose, I
(43:38):
mean, she did start, she did start a conversation, an
important conversation that I ended with.
This is an her internal problem.So am I wrong?
Let me know. All right, that's all I got for
you today, especially considering this is the second
time I'm doing this. So if this is a little late, you
(44:00):
know what? I'm not going to edit this shit.
This. You get what you get.
You get what you motherfucking get.
All right, it's it's insane thatI'm even putting this up to
begin with. All right, so please like
comment and subscribe. The comments mean so much,
especially on Apple in Spotify too, but please comment like and
(44:21):
very much subscribe so that I can keep growing.
I'm really, it's hard, but I love doing it.
I do and I'm really enjoying learning and getting better at
this and and like finding kind of my groove with how I want to
talk about things and what I want to talk about and if I want
(44:42):
to do segments. So if you guys have any
suggestions, please let me know.Also I am thinking about like
doing an ask me anything whatever AQ and a kind of thing.
So keep an eye out for that. Please follow me on Instagram to
see when that happens. And honestly, my Instagram
stories are just like my brain throwing up on to you really
(45:07):
projectile vomiting into your your brain.
And if that sounds like a good time to you, please.
It's it's everything from pop pop culture stuff and like
celebrity, whatever, to just like my random thoughts and
following me throughout my day. I wish I could be the kind of
girl that did like a day in the life.
I could vlog and do like really aesthetic shots of me getting my
(45:30):
morning coffee and like walking Henry and I don't know,
returning things. Who the fuck am I talking about?
I haven't returned. I haven't returned a an item I
don't know since 2022. I'm just kidding, not 2022, but
it's been like I do. I return things like twice a
year and it's because I don't know.
(45:54):
I'm like my B12 levels are good that day.
I don't know. It happens very rarely, but I
fucking digress. I'm sorry, please.
(46:14):
I was doing so well this entire episode.
I have no idea how I did 45 minutes without losing my train
of thought at like they at all and saying goodbye.
I'm like, what am I doing here again?
I'm Saron, by the way. Nice to meet you.
OK Any usual please like this shit, comment on this shit,
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