Love Island USA: ALL ABOARD THE S.S. NICOLANDRIA

This week on Saron Things:

Saron shares personal updates and political takes in her favorite place, bed, then dives into:

– Jeff Bezos & Lauren Sánchez’s wedding fallout

– Bravo drama breakdown

– Secret Lives of Mormon Wives reunion recap

– Sharp analysis of Love Island USA and shifting house dynamics

#Love Island USA #Bravo TV #Jeff Bezos wedding #politicalcommentary #popculture #realityTV #SaronThings

Episode Transcript

(00:13):
Hello and welcome to surround things, a podcast for brilliant
bitches who happened to love bravo.
I am your host, Serran Alcaba. How do you guys deadly do I'll
start not great. Maybe that's an exaggeration.
Every time I want to start indulging myself and pitting
myself, I have to think like I really do have a fabulous life.

(00:36):
Look, what more could I ask for?I don't know, maybe a fascist
not in office. That would be fucking great.
Not having to have searched my parents naturalization forms to
make sure all of our IS are dotted and T's are crossed
because they're talking about denaturalizing citizens.
Oh my God, we really just fucking dove right into it,

(00:59):
didn't we? I want to start by acknowledging
if you're watching this, I am inbed right now.
I had to remove every last barrier to me sitting down and
recording this episode. Why I am a ball of anxiety right
now is why I feel paralyzed. Paralyzed because where do I

(01:19):
fucking start? Thing about therapy is to
acknowledge your biggest fears. You have to acknowledge your
biggest fears and it's just so much easier to internalize that
shit. I just need to trust in the fact
that I'm deserving of everythinggood and that I'm not an

(01:40):
imposter 'cause it all just comes down to imposter syndrome,
doesn't it? Oh man, maybe I need to alter my
cocktail. I've been on the same
medications for for Ezs. And if you're questioning
whether you should take your medication, guys, when I was in
my early 20s, I was the least responsible person on the
planet. And frankly, I was just like a

(02:01):
manic lunatic for between the ages of 18 and 24.
Yeah. And those years were the years I
desperately needed to be taking all of my medicine.
Those years, I couldn't be bothered.
I was either like too drunk or Idon't or or too hungover or just
in some weird cycle of self loathing that I didn't feel the

(02:25):
need. I think I like the chaos to some
degree, but like when that frontal lobe frontal lobed, it's
you're different. You're different.
I think about that bitch and I'mreally a little sad for her.
That's how I ended up here. Any who's I digress.
She's having a hard time. I am in bed because I thrive in

(02:50):
bed. I was one of those kids when
growing up. I did all my homework in bed.
I wrote my journal in bed. I ate my meals in bed.
You know, there's a Are you a living room family or a bedroom
family? Bedroom family Beyond OK beyond
beyond loved to do everything inthe quiet, peaceful, you know,

(03:14):
sanctuary that was my horribly painted pink room and in my
sweet little twin bed. And so I've created a lot of
beautiful shit in my bed. So why not my podcast?
I don't have to be married to anyone Location.

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Why am I stifling myself creatively?
I don't know. I think I like over any Hoosling
myself today, and I don't even know how that's possible.
I've never felt that feeling. I was just enough with the
Hoossels. Ho Damn, I almost did it again.
I need to look up some synonyms.So let me not aggress.

(03:59):
I am. I'm throwing everything to the
wind today. Fuck a format, fuck my normal
setup, fuck everything. I want to be comfortable and I
just want to talk shit about everything.
OK, we're still going to talk about pop culture.
We're obviously going to talk about politics, but there's this

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is going to be a journey, OK? And I touched upon this earlier.
I, along with many other naturalized citizens, were
scrambling to figure out what the fuck Trump meant by we're
going to be pursuing denaturalization options.
And in the process of trying to make sure confirm that I have
nothing to worry about re my family, I learned that I'm not a

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naturalized citizen. I'm a derivative citizen, which
is a child who acquired citizenship through their
parents after they became naturalized.
So my parents became naturalizedcitizens in 2003 and they and
that means I automatically became a citizen by act of law.

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And so when that happens, there isn't any kind of formal
process. The law just says you are a
citizen and you go about your life as such.
Unless you want to leave the country, you need a passport and
by all like respects, you're stateless if you don't have that
kind of documentation. So often times what 90% of

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parents do is they take their naturalization certificate and
the kids and the kids birth certificate and use that as the
method of getting a passport. Because it is the law that a
naturalized citizen's child acquires citizenship after 2000,
I believe 2001. And Wham bam, thank you ma'am,

(05:49):
you're good to go. But not exactly right.
So the passport that you receiveas a derivative citizen, it's
not like adjudicated, which means it hasn't been through US
Immigration Services like USCIS did not stamp yes, like this is

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enough to prove your citizenship.
So what parents had to do was they had to go out of their way
to fill out the N600 to get a citizenship certificate for
their child. And that certificate is the
proof, the adjudicated given by Homeland Security.

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And I'll be all proof that you are a citizen.
If your parents didn't do that for you when you were a minor
and all you have is your passport, then USCIS has you
still logged as a legal permanent resident, right?
So in 2017, after Trump's first,after he was elected the first
time, of course, I was like, wait a second, let me make sure

(06:54):
all of my ducks are in a row just like same time around.
It's horrific deja vu. So I realized that I have lost
everything from my passport to my citizenship certificate.
I remember that I have a citizenship certificate because
that's what I have used to get my passports in the past because

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my parents filled out that in 600 form and so I knew it
existed. I went to USCIS to get another
copy and they told me what the fuck are you talking about?
In our system, you're a legal permanent resident.
Turns out that these documents, these citizenship certificates
weren't digitized before 2004. I got my citizens certificate in

(07:38):
2003. So my certificate had to be
manually pulled from some warehouse in the middle of
nowhere, like in out of like dusty fucking bins just plucked
from obscurity. So when I tried to go through
USCIS, they were like, we can't help you because you like you're

(08:01):
to us, you're a permanent resident.
And I decided I would go throughmy congressperson.
So. So I emailed Mark Warner's
office, Virginia State senator, and he and his staff reached out
to USCIS and had them manually pull it and give me my
citizenship certificate number. And that is how I went about

(08:21):
filing my N565, which is a replacement for the citizenship
certificate. And I received that certificate
in 2019. So I have the end all, be all
kind of immigration documentation.
The fact that it was reissued in2019 under the Trump

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administration, under his immigration policies, that also
adds another layer of kind of security because not only was it
acknowledged and found through Mark Warner's office that that
citizenship certificate did exist, it was also reissued
under a hostile administration. The people who really have to

(09:05):
worry about it are citizens who were naturalized in the past
five years. Like they are going to be going
through those applications, those N 4 hundreds with a fine
tooth comb. OK, you got a name error.
You're fucked. You, you misspelled the city you
were born in. You're fucked.

(09:27):
Did you fail to say that you gotlike a DUI when you were 18?
You're fucked. So what is so crazy to me is
like nobody has ever considered denaturalization as an option
for much of anything in America 'cause it is the nuclear option.

(09:49):
There should be very few things that qualify people for losing
their naturalization or their citizenship status.
There are naturalized citizens that voted for Donald Trump.
Cubans, I'm looking at your asses.
It is insane to me to think thatthere are many people who are

(10:11):
going to lose their citizenship,who voted to lose their
citizenship. Isn't that some shit?
Some shit? Oh, Cubanos, that's some shit.
And also, like, it's kind of hostile back there.
No, like, they're not giving youa welcome party.

(10:31):
There won't be a feast. Godspeed, is what I say to them.
Medicaid and Medicare. Medicare, OK, old people.
Medicaid, poor people and old people.
I know that can be a little confusing, and that is perfectly
fair. Also, Medicaid, the one for poor
and old, has a lot of different names in a lot of different

(10:55):
states. It's not just called Medicaid
everywhere. The big beautiful bill slashes
guts Medicaid for up to 11 million people.
It would seem Medicare is largely untouched.
And there are the people who saythey don't care they're not on

(11:17):
Medicaid, who have no idea that they are actually on Medicaid
with just another name, who alsovoted to essentially die.
SNAP benefits, children's free lunches.
They want to make everything a harder on the average American.
And my like cycle of thought always ends up in the same

(11:38):
place. It always ends up in.
We voted for this. I mean, gerrymandering is a
thing. But even beyond that, like, I
know there's a lot of conversation about whether or
not Trump did anything to alter the course of the 2024
elections, right? But as we have no evidence of

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that, I'm not going to talk about it as if it is.
Some talk about it as if it's a fact.
Can't in good faith say that with the amount of data that we
have now, but assuming that it wasn't.
We voted for this shit. Oh God.
If we are ever able to right theship, what is the point if we

(12:21):
don't end Citizens United, right?
If we don't eliminate the filibuster, If we don't install
term limits on the Supreme Court, if we don't eliminate the
Electoral College, what is the point?
Aren't we supposed to be able tolearn what government and
governance processes work and don't, and grow and adjust our

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practices accordingly? Like the Constitution is a
living thing. It shouldn't be stretched, but
it can be added to as we've timeand time again.
And every time we've added to it, it's been incredibly
important. Why is it that the Electoral
College and term limits and Citizens United and, and all of

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these things we've decided just are immovable?
They must be moved or else we'vegone to the point where the
experiment has failed. It's been stress tested.
We understand, you know the trigger points, we can't address
them. But my God.
But racism, it literally all comes down to racism, guys.

(13:32):
But racism? They could have just voted for
the black lady identity politics.
They'd rather focus on the, I don't know, like handful of
trans female athletes than adjust, like address the hunger
problem in the United States. But then you know these dumb,

(13:53):
these dumb uneducated fucks as if education is a bad word.
Are you not confused? Does not alarm you that this
government wants you stupid. If you feel like education is a
problem, it leads you to to question things that you

(14:15):
shouldn't question. Why are you so satisfied being a
lemming? And I'm talking, you know who
I'm talking about. And now we have how the flash
floods in Texas and and Camp Mystic and those little girls
who were washed away in the deadof the night.
Do you know how terrifying that must have been?

(14:36):
And I don't ever want to hear it's not political and let's not
make this political. It's fucking political.
What could be more political than little girls dying because
a position that was responsible for coordinating the the alert

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alerts and alarms and bells thatwere going off about this flesh
blood to communities in order toget them evacuated in a timely
manner. The fact that that position was
elated because this administration wants to gut
everything that could possibly help people in the name of

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giving billionaires tax cuts. It's fucking political and this
is just the beginning. Those poor little girls didn't
vote. They didn't deserve this.
They didn't deserve to be collateral damage in in, in
their parents stupidity, in their parents stupidity.
Because I assure you, each and every one of those parents, if

(15:42):
not, I would say I would bet 90%of those parents voted for
Donald J Trump. They voted to gut national
leather services. They voted to eliminate that
position that would have coordinated with locals in order
to get those children evacuated.They voted for their kids to
die. Does that hurt?

(16:04):
Should it like. Yeah.
Just like people have voted to strip away their naturalization,
right? And you don't want to talk about
it. You don't want to talk about it
because you have no integrity. You don't want to talk about it
because protecting your ego is far more important than
addressing issues that have costsevere loss of life.

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You don't care. You don't care, and that's a
motherfucking shame. But yeah, don't say it's not
about politics. It's about politics.
What else is going on in my life?
Old men keep on hitting on me and I'm not sure what the fuck
is going on with that. Oh my God, what, especially

(16:49):
during this time in the world, would any man unnecessarily
speak to a woman? I just saw this Tiktok video
where this older black gentlemanwas sitting in the cart.
Gentleman fellow I suppose. And he's like, why don't black
women like to talk to you in thegrocery store?
First of all, why does it alwayshave to be black women?
Like why are you? Why do you motherfucking care?

(17:13):
Why are you so tuned into our behaviors?
Women aren't casually wanting totalk to men because you guys are
fucking scary. Oh my God.
Anyways, there's this old man that lives in my building.
I walked into the elevator. He was already in it and with
another young woman. She, I'm stand closest to the

(17:36):
elevator doors. He stands to the left of me and
she is across from us. He's like, oh, Henry looks so
cute. He looks so healthy.
And I'm like, Oh my God, amazing.
That's my favorite compliment. Thank you so much.
Like he's a man of the people. And we had like, it was just a
nice interaction. And then we get to the ladies

(17:57):
floor, she leaves and he scoots closer to me and he's like, now
I get to get closer to the pretty lady.
I must have had like a fucking horrified look on my face
because he immediately stepped back and he's like, ah, you
know, I just like to play. Which feels like an
acknowledgement that he might have crossed some kind of line.

(18:18):
But like, I want to. I was going to say now is not
the time for those kinds of jokes.
It was for the time. Also, Sir, you are easily 70
years old. Stay away from me.
And the thing that gets me is the audacity.
They do it because they think this is a long shot, but there's

(18:40):
a sliver of a chance that she might go for this.
They think there's a sliver of achance.
And always, always, they work inwithin the first, like, minute
of, like, trying to converse. Do you have a boyfriend?
I say yeah. I say, actually, no, I'm
married. I got married last year easily

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because I know I shouldn't have to.
I shouldn't have to lie. Obviously in a perfect world I
could say no Sir, I'm not interested but have a lovely day
and the world keeps spinning so I can go on in my merry way.
Footloose and fancy for you. But no, that is not how the
world works. Bitches are getting knocked out

(19:21):
and I can't. This is the money maker guys.
Like I cannot afford to get walloped just because I I I'm
not trying to give a man my money.
Hey, also something that everyone should know, Girls, get
a Google Voice phone number. Memorize that Google Voice phone
number, link it to your actual phone.

(19:44):
OK, Give that phone number out to men, men that you like, even
like men that might seem cool atfirst.
So that one, like if they try tocall you like right then and
there, your phone will ring. And you don't have to have that
awkward moment of like, oh, I guess I put like the digit 1
digit in wrong. They buy that you actually gave

(20:06):
them the real number. And after like, I don't know,
after a couple weeks or two, a month, a year, I don't know.
However long it takes you to trust him and figure out that
he's not a stalker who intends to like skin you and where you
like last season's Versace. You can bestow upon him the
honor of your real phone number.But that is just a pro tip

(20:27):
because I like to mitigate conflict before it happens,
right? What could benefit me?
Me being honest to a man on the street when he asks me for my
phone number or like asks me outto say that I'm single.
What do I owe him? If there is even a 10% chance
this shit is not going to work out in my favor, I will lie

(20:49):
straight to your face to protectmy safety and I won't feel bad
about that. I won't feel bad about that at
all. The bear.
The bear. And is that trend that's going
on on the Internet about like the the smallest man in the
world? Smallest man Anyway, It's a
trend where women are showing screenshots of the craziest shit

(21:12):
that these guys have said to them, guys that they've been
dating situation, ships, whatever.
And it has men taking a step going.
My friends might be insane because often times like even in
like domestic violence situations, in retrospect,
people are always like, we neversaw that side of Tim.
Timmy was always just like such a sweetheart.

(21:33):
He seemed like such a good man, but he would never do that.
He was a stand up dude, trust him with my life but on the down
low he was being abusive to his wife or partner or just like a
absolute psychopath. People can hide things.
Just because your experience is different from one from someone
doesn't mean that they're lying.And if that's your assumption,

(21:55):
you have to look inward. That says far more about you and
how determined you are to cling to things that make you feel
comfortable rather than, you know, seeking the truth and
leaving. Leading a more.
I don't know, leading a life of integrity, I guess any these men
are like, OK, like statistically, one of my friends

(22:16):
has to be a lunatic. And I'm glad that that was
uncovered because I don't know, we have to take the the little
wins as the ladies in this world.
OK, I don't know how we got there, but I'd like to keep
going. OK, We're going to move on to
the pop culture portion of this podcast.
I wrote down Jeff Bezos and Laurence Sanchez's wedding, but

(22:38):
like that subject matter, it just bores the shit out of me.
Guys, it was it was a, a spectacle.
It was a garish, clownish affair.
There was Gray carpet. They imported millennial Gray
Home Depot bargain basement carpet for their Venetian

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wedding. This you can't it's it's
actually fucking shocking and also makes sense because this
shit is tacky as hell. They're just so fucking tacky.
New money personified, all right, And I know I do this
thing in my bendy shirt, but still just garish.

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And it should be noted that AnnaWintour leaving Vogue the day
before Loren Sanchez got her cover.
That can't be coincidence. I thought she was going to be
buried underneath like or putting some kind of crypt in
the basement or cryogenically frozen.
Like what? Like Disney for the Vogue?

(23:45):
But no, she said goodbye. If I'm guessing the Sanchez
cover just like fucked with the sanctity of what it is like we
see media being bought. Oh my God, does does Jeff Bezos
own Conde Nast or whatever that I'm sure there is a parent
something or other because I know he does own newspapers like

(24:05):
the Washington Post or the New York Times or what not.
So these billionaires just, theyare going to squeeze every ounce
of use from these constitutionally protected
institutions that were for the people not to serve the best
interests of billionaires. I mean don't even get me started

(24:28):
about Jeff Bezos not allowing his newspapers to endorse Kamala
Harris, which is something that has never been done ever,
period. Fuck that guy.
Anyways, the wedding happened. It was tacky and terrible.
The Kardashians were there looking as tacky as ever.

(24:48):
It's just it was ticky tack, tack, tack.
A ticky tack of 2. The tackiest tick that ever
tacked and I lost a little bit respect for every last one of
them that was in attendance. Especially fucking Leonardo
DiCaprio. Like what a fucking joke.
Proud of him from for increasinghis like age ceiling to a cute
26 when it was like 24 for the majority of his adult life.

(25:12):
But still I never want to hear adamn word about his worries
about the environment, carbon emissions and blah blah blah.
Like you're this is Mr. Carbon Emissions wedding.
Also you took a private jet year.
Also you spend your life on megayachts also go and go fuck
yourself. It just I am so tired of these,

(25:35):
you know, tortured. They take themselves so
seriously men like I heard the other day this rumor that he
when he sleeps with women, he puts on headphones and he
refuses to talk to them. And I know that might not be
true, that he is just like dead silent, has his headphones on

(25:59):
and just silently fucking away. I know it might not be true, but
I can't unhear it. I can't unknow it.
It feels like when I find out, found out about the rumor about
Richard Gere and the hamster gerbil.
Like I know it's probably not true.
And yet. And yet it's always in the back

(26:19):
of my mind. His name cannot come up without
me thinking of that gerbil. And This is why they have such.
Yeah, this is my defamation's a thing, huh?
Because that's not cute. Anyways, I I lost respect for
all of them, and I don't care totalk about it anymore.
I want to talk about the Bezos'sas little as possible.

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OK, moving on to Secret Lives ofMormon Wives.
We have the same old same old with Taylor.
Dakota, what are you guys talking about?
Why are you so confused about why your relationship is still
so entangled? You're still fucking stop
fucking only talk about your kids.
Take take six months, 8 months, a year apart and then maybe

(27:03):
reassess. But just like stop fucking.
That should be simple. Oh, and I'm pretty sure that's
where we landed at the end of the season.
So how the fuck did we get back here?
I love Taylor, but like she needs to have impulse control.
She really does when it comes toher baby daddy.
And I don't know if I talked about it on the podcast or on

(27:25):
like TikTok, but I get that she has shame around the fact that
she has two baby daddies and she's super young, right?
She's probably going to find love again and she'll probably
get married again. And what if she has other kids?
I'm sure she would welcome that.But then you have to think
about, wait, do I have three baby daddies?
I'm going to be the girl who hasthree baby daddies and with all

(27:45):
of this Mormon trauma and, you know, the patriarchy just
breathing down her throat and with family who is refusing to
allow her the space to grow and grieve at her own pace.
It must be a motherfucking struggle.
So I I see that I see not wanting to leave Dakota fully

(28:06):
alone because does that mean she's she's committing to the
fact that she might have three baby daddies And no matter how
down and, you know, self acceptance and working on
herself, she is like, I don't know if she's get evolved enough
to not judge herself for that, even though, you know, none of

(28:28):
the I can't say none of the viewers.
I can only speak for myself, butlike, I fucking wouldn't judge
her for having a third baby daddy, finding love, getting
married again. Not at all.
Everybody's story is different, everybody's path is different.
It doesn't make you a better or worse human.
There are plenty of people who exclusively procreate with one
person that fucking suck, and that is not you, Taylor.

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So be free. Be free of Dakota, and be free
of the shackles of the judgementthat you are.
I'm assuming you're bestowing upon yourself unnecessarily to
me. Oh my God, Demi pitched A
storyline to Taylor and Dakota and the girls where Taylor was

(29:09):
going to be very suspicious of Dakota's relationship with Demi.
And there was a whole situation where she was like, you can find
us. You can like track his location
and, you know, find us in his car, but we'll just be talking
and it'll be a whole thing. Great storyline.
And Macy was like when she was talking about this whole
situation with the vile files. And Macy, when explaining this,

(29:32):
said that all of the girls were like, are you fucking joking?
Like, this is insane. Don't.
We're not. We shouldn't do that.
And of course, they ended up notdoing that.
But that underscores everything that I've ever thought about.
To me, she's just a bad person. She and her husband are in
cahoots. They have agreed to, you know,
make the most splash as possible, get as much air time

(29:56):
as possible, make a name for themselves in any way possible.
And that if that means, you know, besmirching their
relationship and, you know, cheating rumors and all of that,
they're willing to do it becauseBrett is fully on board with
this shit. She wouldn't have just pitched
that without having a conversation with Brett about

(30:18):
it. So, so weird.
She's a bad person. Like real real bad person.
Oh my God. Whitney's husband and his
trauma. What a sweetie pie.
Honey bunches of oats. Yummy, yummy yumkins.
First of all, when he was talking about the trauma he
experienced, which trigger warning for child abuse, he was

(30:41):
raped as a little boy and it makes me sick thinking about it,
of course. But as he was talking, the
camera was panning around to allof the other people on the set
and in the cast. And I couldn't help but realize,
like, there are some serious emotional traumatic issues that

(31:05):
a lot of people have experiencedin this room.
Like, we know that Michaela has had similar trauma in her past.
And the fact that Connor, Whitney's husband, was able to
reach out to Michaela and encourage her, even though she
and Whitney were in the midst ofall of this drama and like
Michaela was basically treating Whitney as if she was the shit

(31:25):
on the bottom of her shoe. The fact that he still wanted to
support Michaela really endearedme towards him.
That actually made me shed a tear and actually makes me like
Whitney a little bit more. And it's the whole he's gay
thing. Let's just toss that out the
window. No more, no more.
The we get information, we learn, we grow, we adjust our

(31:49):
behavior. All right.
So if Whitney has moved on and if I'm seeing what I'm seeing on
my screen and that's sincere, which I have no reason to not
believe it is, then I'm all for Connor.
Connor is a king. And truly, truly, God bless him
for sharing something that tenseand, and and and and dip cults.

(32:14):
And the fact that he said that Taylor really gave him a lot of
the push and, and the energy andthe strength to come forward
with his story because of how vulnerable she's willing to be
online herself and with the audience.
And I thought that was really beautiful too.
So, but let's go back to being abitch.

(32:36):
Whitney hates Taylor OK when he does not like Taylor.
Whitney is going to stage a coupthis upcoming season.
We saw that in the trailer for season 3 and Whitney had no
reason to turn on Taylor when Taylor was the only one who
voted Whitney back into mom talk.

(32:57):
I think that she just does not like the cut of her jib and it's
so weird. Maybe it's a girl thing like
Whitney has problems with girls because for you to pick a
husband who's so who's good, like who truly seems decent, not
perfect, capable of mistakes, isstill flawed, but is truly

(33:20):
decent. You would think she would.
She would be able to apply the same logic and the same
parameters to how she chooses her friends.
But she does not pick the right side.
She might have girl trauma, and I don't know, if she was on my
podcast, I would ask her about that.

(33:41):
And Ben and Jen, they played that recording of Demi and Brett
plotting on how to take the heatoff of Demi for the whole
Marciano thing. All of this over Marciano.
Look at me, guys. How are you attracted to that
man? How in God's name would you risk

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it all for that sweaty alcoholicBart?
Oh my God EW. He has like very little impulse
control. He is not smart.
He's not smart even a little bit.
He is all vibrato. He he's ragey and weird.
And you're going to risk it all for that parent?

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For the Bartek? I will never understand it.
And the fact that I just watcheda TikTok from the 4th of July
where she has her ring back on leads me to believe that she did
not fuck Marciano. And it it they were.
They seem to imply that Marcianowas like paid or blackmailed or

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incentivized by Demi in some wayto lie and say that he and Jesse
fucked. And if that's the case, do I
think that like Demi is capable of that?
Of course I do, especially afterhearing the whole Taylor Dakota
thing. Absolutely, but also it's hard
for me to comprehend because that's just like so comically

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evil and villainous. Like you know how Whitney and
Jen really wanted to be on Dancing with the Stars?
Does Demi really want to be on villains?
Because that's the only way her this behavior would ever make
any sense. And also I will never fucking
get over the way. I don't know that random man
lobster girl Miranda's husband like brushed past her, grazed

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her shoulder with his hand. She runs to Brett saying he put
his hands on me. I don't know whether it's like
the black woman in my bones, Emmett Till the white woman
tears situation just triggered. And I know nobody, nobody in any
of this other than Layla is black.
But still, that kind of false accusation, just like burns on

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so many levels. As a woman, all women get taken
a little bit less seriously whenyou throw that shit around.
And then as a black woman, you don't understand the depth of
the repercussions of your actions if you accuse someone of
something like that. It's this weird paradox to be

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living in. Like, you're often not taken
seriously and on the off chance that you're not telling the
truth, you might be taken seriously and that could have
dire consequences. Being a woman is complicated as
fucking fuck. A man could never.
OK, let's move on. The shit was heavy.

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Layla and her body image. Stuff that was deep, that was
deep. I love Layla, I have grown to
really enjoy her. I'm so glad that she spoke up,
piped up and admitted that what she did with Taylor, telling her
that she'd have her back and just let it, feeding her to the
wolves was fucked up. I really didn't like that, but

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the fact that she acknowledged her bitch baby behavior, Like I
said, I don't need you to be perfect.
I just need you to do to to acknowledge and do better.
Acknowledge and do better. And that seems to be exactly
what she wants to do. And I'm glad it seems like her
her role in the show is deepening, especially with the

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previews for next season. She seems to be at the heart of
a lot of drama and I'm and I love that for her.
I love that for that Queenie Macy didn't say a fucking word.
Well, she piped up to explain some of the weird Mormon sex
stuff, but she wasn't asked about her book, her pregnancy,
IVF, anything, her business, her.

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She wasn't in the midst of a lotof drama, but they could have at
least asked her opinion about things to get things, you know,
to to get her two cents. She's a wise little lady.
She's one of my favorites. Oh, and my point about Whitney
is that she really wants to be queen bee, and she can, in

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interviews, do a good job of just kind of like trying to give
Taylor her flowers because it's in her best interest to not look
like a psychopath. But under the surface, it is
simmering, this need to overthrow the queen.
But the queen is not there out of force.

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She's there because she's a benevolent ruler and the people
want her there. And am I?
I'm happy for Whitney that she gets to be on Dancing With the
Stars. I'm happy for Jen that she gets
to be on Dancing with the Stars.Nothing about Jen and Zac's
relationship was ever acknowledged or discussed.
We never got a question about did Jen ever tell Jesse and Demi

(38:43):
that Zac gambled away money for his tuition that didn't get
answered. I was hoping that would get
answered. Overall Nick Vile.
I don't like that man. I think it's creepy that his
wife is 19 years younger than him.
His commentary on basically everything is vaguely
misogynistic and racist, and he doesn't provide any kind of

(39:06):
like, nuanced insight. It's very much frat bro forced
to go to therapy a couple of times, thinks they've figured
life out. Like he really thinks he's got
life figured out. Oh my.
It's just infuriating. And also there's a situation
with him and one of my mutual's Bunny where he he made fun her

(39:26):
child, OK, her brilliant baby boy.
And I've really never been able to look at him the same sense,
you know, I never know what the straw that breaks the camel's
back is going to be. It's it's often times very
random. But yeah, fuck that guy.
That being said, I will be telling the truth.
He did a decent job. He and Whitney had a little bit

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of friction. She didn't like it.
She called him out and he kind of backed off.
It was good. Next season, I would like to
host, OK? I would like to host the
reunion. So I don't know who I have to
talk to at Hulu, Disney to get that working, but I'm throwing
my motherfucking hat in the ring, all right?
And I can be bought. Right.

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I will delete every bit of comments and commentary I've
ever made about the show if you give me that job.
OK, I'm looking at you. I'm looking.
Although I don't think we can fix things with Zach.
I think with Zach, the ship has fucking sailed very far away.
I called him the child of the corn and a White Walker and

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there's still a very long message from him in my DM
request folder in Instagram thatI just cannot get myself to
read. So perhaps that ship has sailed.
High tide grass. Next subject, the valley.
Kristen gets engaged. That's literally all that
happened. She got engaged in Hawaii and it

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was a very cute. The ring is beautiful.
Luke seems like a lovely fella. It's crazy how his position in
the group has changed. I remember first season when he
came on, the guys were giving him like a hard time.
Like who is this guy? He's like basically just met
Kristen. He's treating him like some kind
of doofus nerd. And they were like the Bros,

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like he was trying to rush a fraternity or something.
Those dumb fucks as if they're aprize.
And no, it seems that Luke has actually made some real
relationships with the guys, especially Danny, NIA, Kristen
and Luke. Love that little foursome.
Kristen, I will always think she's a tacky broad.
The fact that she called the police on faith is something

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that is still kind of an itch that I haven't been able to
fully scratch yet because she refuses to take full
accountability. The difference between her and
Stassi Stassi self flagellates. I have heard her on so many
occasions talk about how stupid her behavior was and what she's
learned from it. Even when the person on the

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other end she's talking to triesto excuse, give her excuses,
Kristen, all we got was it was just a tip line.
It was just a tip line. It was just a motherfucking tip
line in her stupid fucking Birkenstocks tie dye.
And it's just like the Forever 21 graphic tee of it all.
Like this. I don't understand how Hard and

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Stassi were ever friends like Stassi and Katie.
I guess because like Stassi and Katie have like distinct
identities. Hers is just so she's just basic
but like C plus spacek, I don't know.
Anyways, mazel tov. Oh, they also just had a baby.

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This is so excited. They bought a house.
Like good for her. So wish that she would be fully
contrite about her behavior, butgood for her.
Anything else that happened? Oh, Janet.
Janet has fled the country. She has fled the United States
of America due to an influx of death threats and hate that
she's been receiving. What do I have to say about

(43:00):
that? What the fuck are you talking
about? You mean to tell me out of all
the Bravo liberties and out of all the fuck shit all of these
people have done publicly who have been aggressively
lambasted, verbally attacked foryears for their horrendous
behavior online, in person, by playing train automobile, that

(43:24):
you, Janet Caperna or whatever the fuck her last name is, are
the one that was driven out of the country.
She took her husband and her baby and they went to
Switzerland. It's giving a planned vacation
that she's using as a means to get sympathy.
And like, who can say anything like, Oh my God, no one should

(43:45):
give her death threats. Like death threats are death.
Obviously death threats are bad.No one should be threatening
death ever, period. Full stop.
That's that. Especially to some fucking
benign ass reality television star.
Bravo Liberty. Like that's actually batshit
crazy, right? But I also don't believe that it

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was to the point it was more extreme than anything anyone
else had ever experienced who's been in her position.
And I certainly don't believe itwas enough to merit her fleeing
to Europe, to the Swiss Alps. I don't think so, Janet.
And This is why people hate you,because you're dramatic and you
make no sense. I don't like that people are
giving you death threats. But as we've seen, these people

(44:32):
can't be reasoned with. And knowing the kind of vitriol
that Bravo liberties are are subject to.
You still vied for this job. You salivated for this moment.
And unless you're telling me that you are no longer going to
do the show, that you're not filming anymore because it's not

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worth the actual fear for your life and bitch, what are we
talking about? It's a lot these I just it feels
like a way to get good headlines.
My favorite moment actually in this last episode was when they
were in the pool with Naya and Danny and they were trying to
come to some kind of polite apology.

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And Janet was like, I had a lot to drink, so my behavior at that
lunch was a little much. And Nia's like, oh, you had a
drink like you were drunk that early, Like such a biting
subtle, like she really dug thatsubtle ass passive aggressive,

(45:36):
vicious girl bitchery out and slapped Janet in the face with
that shit. And it was a good moment.
I said, oh, that's what I'm talking about, NIA.
That's what I'm talking about NIA delicious and I just adore
her. I don't I I fear for Danny and

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how he's going to have to hustlefor the rest of his life to give
her the life that she wants and deserved deserves and has agreed
to providing for her. I don't think that she was
hiding the ball. I just like, I don't know, when
white men are put in financial straits and they feel like they
have to like provide above all else, they sometimes feel the

(46:21):
need to like keep up appearancesand then that leads to scary
shit. So like, I hope she starts
making a lot of money so that she can also contribute to this
lifestyle that she she wants in this home where she wants it
because she's going to have to find another man.
Because I don't think long term this is going to diddly do.
But also, season 3, that's when I've heard they start really

(46:43):
making the big bucks on Bravo shows.
So perhaps if they're just goingto be sticking it out.
I am generally liking the season.
I'm not glued to my television screen, but I'm also not having
to force myself to watch it. And beyond that, I don't think
Jax was in the episode, so that was nice.
OK, moving on to Love Island USA, it's episode 31 at this

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point. Shit has hit the fan.
Sierra's gone. They gave her the boot.
You can actually hear her in oneof Olandria's confessionals
screaming, you can't do this pitch.
What do you mean you can't do this?
Oh, they can do this. And they did.
So she's gone. And I made a TikTok saying that
Nick's rebound rate was that of a man who was given the details

(47:30):
of why she was given the boot. But upon further reflection,
maybe he didn't know. Maybe he didn't know and he was
just told she did something offensive and he can't hang his
hat on on something he doesn't understand.
Like he can't defend her or say that he's still committed to her

(47:51):
when she he doesn't know the theoffense and how deep it it goes.
And so honestly, I don't know whether my mind has been fucked
with by all of these edits that I've seen on Tiktok of them, but
the comparison of his behavior, Nick with Sierra versus him and
Olandria, it's just like night and day.

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He seemed very pensive with Sierra, like he was going with
whatever her flow was. Whereas Olendria, he seems
intrigued. He's a light, you know, he's
always laughing, he's always touching her.
He seems like a little kid the way that Taylor was saying that,
like Clark makes him feel like alittle kid.

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And there's something to be saidfor that, like we're not
hallucinating Nicolandria and Alandria.
I just don't want her to get hurt again.
So I just like get nervous abouthow much she's starting to like
Nick. But he does seem to be on the
same page. You know what, Let me just let

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them be non-toxic and fall in love at their own pace because
the universe seems to have its own plans for Nick Alandria.
This has been an emotional rollercoaster ride guys.
From them getting the boot to them being put in a couple too.
That kiss in in soul ties that made me feel a lot of things to

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now everything with Taylor ending in Oleandria.
So you're given the booth, them being single again and just like
the vibe is vibing. And also I saw the video
pointing out that Oleandria has a necklace that has two hearts
on it. OK 2 heart pendants separate and
she had been wearing it on the show.
There is a scene of her in the last episode wearing the two

(49:39):
pendants on the chain. And at some point in the episode
you see Nick wearing one of the pendants, one of the two hearts
on his neck. And guys, maybe I'm reading too
much into things, but this seemslike something that two people
who are far more into each otherthan whatever we're saying right

(49:59):
now would do. Like what do you mean you're
you're sharing a heart necklaces.
That's that's, that's some emotionally bonded shit.
And the fact that he looked at Nicola, he looked at
Nicolandrea, he looked at Olandrea and he said, I just
feel like you bring out the man in me and that his mom was like,
Oh, I love how silly, you know, Nick can be with like Sierra and

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that's just like his nature. But Olandrea really brings out
the man in Nick. Oh my God, like, did they talk?
They are in lock step about this.
So. And there's also something to be
said about the fact that the energy at Love Island completely
shifted when that bitch left. Do I like these people?
Ariana made a point to say, like, things change so quickly

(50:46):
in the house, like relationshipsbuild that they're taken away,
like connections and people change their minds.
Circumstances change and you know who you like and who you
don't like changes so quickly that you should not be harassing
these people based off of an episode because you don't know
how you're going to feel the next episode.

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You just shouldn't be harassing people on the Internet in
general, obviously, but there are just trolls online that feel
comfortable doing this when theydon't like someone in media.
So especially in a show with such turnover like Love Island,
it doesn't make any sense. So I got to say Ace.

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I'm starting to like him now that he's kind of shut the fuck
up and is letting everybody livetheir lives.
Him and him and Shelly are winning me over.
Like they are super into each other.
Pepe and Iris, damn TJ is all I have to say.
The way she got over that with aquickness, I think she really

(51:49):
did like him. But like, Pepe is a good dude
and I think that what she was able to build with Pepe in these
past few days rivaled whatever she has with TJ.
So that's obviously saying something.
It was giving like Taylor and Olandria, right?
Strong connection for a long time.
Clark gets there, boom, he can'tdeny the connection he's going

(52:10):
to be with Clark. Same situation with TJ and Pepe
and Iris, like she was with was with TJ.
That was a really good connection, strong bond.
She felt emotional about him leaving, was never able to
really explore Pepe. Pepe hopped on that shit and she
was like, wait a second. Now might Pepe be her one true

(52:31):
love? We don't know.
But I'm glad they're getting theopportunity to explore.
Then when we have Huda and Chris, bitch, it is so hard to
be on your side. Huda And I think at the end of
the day, the moral of the story is Hooda is not in a place
emotionally, mentally to be in arelationship with anyone.
OK? She's got to become more mature.

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She has to get right. She has to have some more
therapy and become more self aware and confident in herself
before she stands a chance at having a successful relationship
with another man. Because Chris, if you're going
to make it work with this man who is desperately trying to
understand you, just fighting for his life, trying to

(53:13):
understand you and what motivates you and what lights
you up and what pisses you off, then girl, we got to go back to
the drawing board because the common denominator is a you.
Like it's so fucking crazy to mewhen he was like, hey, it's
weird to me that you don't kiss me in public, but like you're
all up on my Dick when the minute we get in bed and it's

(53:35):
dark, it makes me feel like you're embarrassed of me and
what we've got going on. Throughout him trying to get
that very simple sentiment out, she interrupted him 40 times
back-to-back to 4872 times. I counted the exhaustion written

(53:56):
all over that man's face. But eventually he did spit that
out. And that was what you call clear
communication. He felt the type of way he
calmly went to her, expressed itand she was like OK I guess I'll
never kiss you again. Oh that girl, do you not know
that that is the most immature response you could have given in
that moment? And she is 24.

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She is 24. Not all 24 year olds are ready
to be in relationships. And some people will say what do
you mean she's not mature enough?
She's raising a daughter. That doesn't mean shit.
Many parents are immature as fuck and are not emotionally,
spiritually, financially prepared for a child rearing.

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OK, if faget, you'll make it. You fly by the seat of your
pants, you figure it out. That doesn't mean the situation
is optimized for performance. OK, All it takes to have a child
is to fuck. Not exactly rocket science.
So I don't know if Chris is ready to call it quits with her.
I think he really might be. He voiced for the first time.

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Like, I don't know if I can makethis work because she's not
listening. And the fact that she can
articulate, he does a good job of listening to me when I have a
problem and she can't give him that space.
Well, you're asking for a headache.
You're asking for constant conflict.
And Hooda has this light about her.
Like, I think that she is good. Like, as a person, you can be a

(55:25):
bad partner. Like not ready to be in a
romantic relationship and a decent person.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
Absolutely not. I think that her her ability to
have that kind of interpersonal contact does drip into her
friendships. I think sometimes she makes
weird choices with her friends. But again, she's growing.
She's acknowledging she's whatever with a man though we're

(55:48):
not there yet. We are not there yet.
I just saw a video of her singing.
She sings like an Angel. She's so beautiful.
Her dancing is in insane so I wish her the best.
I just think she's an emotional terrorist in a relationship and
that can be trained out of her. It's not because of malice or

(56:10):
bad faith that she is the way she is.
That doesn't change the the outcome.
Intention doesn't really matter when the outcome is you're going
to terrorize this man into, I don't know, into a lump.
You're going to make him a lump,a lump of a man without fight in
him. He tried his best.
OK, who else do we have? Taylor and Clark.

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They were given the boot and thecrazy part is we voted to give
them the boot as America. We decided Tootaloo, and I love
the way that Love Island phrasesit like they prompt America to
vote for their favorite couple. They don't ask us to vote for
your least favorite couple to have booted off the island.

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So the results become far less like targeted and malicious.
And it becomes really a product of, oh, I guess this is really
where they net out when push comes to shove if we're ranking
how we feel about the other couples.
Because what was it? Shelly and Ace were right there

(57:16):
at the bottom next to Taylor andClark every fucking time.
America was not fucking with Taylor and Clark and I think
it's because we love Olandria somuch.
I've been seeing a lot of stuff on the Internet about how the
Internet hath turned on Olandriaand Shelly, but not my side of
Internet, my TikTok. OK, we're still fairy princesses

(57:40):
over here. Was I disappointed when Olandria
betrayed who does confidence andtold her business in front of
everyone? Yes.
Was I very confused about Shelly's hesitancy to become
exclusive with Ace when he clearly wanted to be exclusive
with her and why she was so mad at, at, at at Chris.

(58:02):
Yeah, I was confused. But never in the moment for a
moment did that make me think, oh, I don't like her.
So yeah, we still, we're still Gucci, Gucci over here.
So yeah, Tyler Clark got the boot.
I'm glad they have each other. I think at the end of it all,
like everybody is on Team Clark and Taylor Pete, everyone in the
house, everyone in America, right?

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We just didn't care about watching them anymore.
I didn't care to watch Clark anymore either.
She was giving nothing. She's a sweet girl.
I wish nothing but the best for their relationship.
Taylor does seem like a sweet guy.
He's just growing up. I I was done with their journey,
so I'm glad they get to, you know, gallop off into the sunset

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together, hand in hand, right? And last but not least, we have
Amaya Papaya Amaya and Brian, the couple I did not see coming,
right? They're cute as hell.
First of all, Amaya's moo moo really locked that shit down.
I said on my socials. I had no idea that the women
were even allowed to pack clothes that cover their body.

(59:05):
I thought it was a contractual obligation that they pranced
around in a bikini when the sun was out and in a freakin dress
or some kind of slinky tight fitting outfit or straight up
lingerie after the sunsets. So when I saw her pop out in
that moo moo, I was like, huh, that's crazy.
She looks so cute with her love braid and everything.

(59:28):
And Brian even said like, I don't look at that dress and
there's this thing. Did you love house dresses?
They it's not this is not a modesty thing, by the way.
My point is like, because everyone is always naked during
like the day and they're always in their swimsuit and stuff.
Like it's not like there's anything mystical or or or or or

(59:48):
mystical is not the right word mysterious about what these
women's banging ass bodies look like.
So who's, who's to care if you throw on a moo moo every now and
then? Like everybody knows what's
going on underneath. So I'm she's a game changer for
that shit because I've watched Love Island UK and I've watched
Love Island US and I've never inmy life seen a like a dress with

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that much fabric. She looks so fucking cute too.
Anyways, but Brian really likes her, the sensitive gangster, the
fact he was the one who piped upand supported her when she was
getting attacked, when they did the like, oh, air out all of
your problems with your fellow castmates challenge where people

(01:00:34):
just stood up and got verbally assaulted.
I didn't see that coming with Amaya.
I will be very honest, she's a lot.
She is a lot. But like she said, like I might
not be you're shy, you might need other tea, so don't sip it
if it's not for you. You know, like that kind of a

(01:00:54):
lot of excitement energy just on10, joyous, joyful all the time,
on, on, on, on, on. It can become overwhelming for
me for sure. But I think that just like it
happened on the show, give me a couple episodes and that bitch
grew on me. I love her so much, she's so

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pure, she makes no sense. She is so silly.
She gives like when she finds a man to like settle down with
that's like obsessed with her crazy.
Like obsessed with her effervescence and her loud
amayaness and all of her little amayaisms and the way she can't.

(01:01:40):
I'm pretty sure it's a speech impediment.
Cute as hell absolutely and all that stuff.
When she locks him down, that's it because she's such a unique
individual. If you want to be with her, you
can't ever let her go because you're never going to find
another Amaya again. You're going to be searching for
a papaya for the rest of your days.
And and and I assure you she is an absolute unique individual

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and I and I'm so glad that thereis someone that is finally
matching her energy and and you know, seeing what we all see
because what the fuck was Austinlike?
Do I think that she should slow her roll?
Like she should have not been solovey dovey?
And what is it? Just affectionate with men that

(01:02:27):
haven't, you know, earned that Iwill always be team.
Hold your cards a little closer to your vest.
But The thing is, Brian doesn't need that.
Brian sees like home and family when when he sees Amaya, and who
knows whether or not she would have found this connection if
she was dulling her light or pretending that she was someone

(01:02:47):
that she wasn't. So Amaya is such a great case
study for relentlessly being yourself.
And if you're a decent person and you're kind and you're
you're good, you know that that will pay off because after fuck
was that with Austin being like,you should chill out like it's

(01:03:08):
too much. Why are you always crying and
then the other one attacking herand then Zach jumping in?
I would have never been able to get over Zach saying I actually
didn't want to kiss you the first time you kissed me but I
was uncomfortable so I did it. OK grown ass man.
I asked for explicit consent. All you had to say was yes or

(01:03:28):
no. And this is a lie because he
made a stink about Olandra beinglike, I don't kiss outside of
challenges. Like it takes me a while to get
to know someone and I have to like feel comfortable in a
connection with them, like on a deeper level before we do
anything physical or like make out.
And he was perturbed. Zach supermodel Zach cheat comes

(01:03:50):
for days. Zach He didn't like that.
OK, So that's why when amaya papaya rolled around and she was
like, hey, what it do? OK, Are you in the mood for a a
couple slices of papaya? He was like, and then he picked
her, So what the fuck are you talking about?
And then suddenly when he knows that a recoupling is coming and

(01:04:12):
his ass is on the line and he sees that America fucks with
this bitch heavy, which means she has a huge edge on whether
or not she wins the money at theend, which I always forget that
there's money like that's a fucking factor in all of this.
It feels so besides the point, but I guess it's it like that's
a lot of money. It's like $100,000 total.

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The person who picks the card that says it's $100,000 either
splits it with the their partneror they don't.
Last year Cordell was the one that drew the $100,000 and of
course he split it with Serena. They're still together.
It's literally a magical. Oh, yeah.
You see that? America really fucks with Amaya.
We think she's, you know, amazing, perfect, angelic.

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And suddenly you're like, you know, I really appreciate your
authenticity. I've always fucked with your
light. Like, don't let anyone dull your
shine. No, you insane person.
And Elon, just a wonderful guy, Right?
So I obviously, who couldn't call that those two were going
to be the ones leaving. I was surprised that Taylor and

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Clark were given the boot. I actually I very much thought
it was going to be Pepe and IRS.But then Pepe is the most
sincere guy in this motherfucking group.
Like he carried himself with such dignity and respect through
every step. And Grayson, her face when he
was voted most genuine or most boyfriend material.

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She rolled her eyes so hard because that means that America
saw how he was moving and believes he was moving
respectfully. So the way he was talking about
her in conventionals, the way headdressed other women who wanted
to get to know him while he was with Grayson, it was just a
fucking class act, OK? Also, he has a type, right?

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If it if it's not white, it ain't right.
OK, If it's not snowing, he ain't going.
He loves himself some blondies and I respect it, my dude.
I respect it. He's nice to them, he's nice to
everyone. I don't care, I hope he finds
his his blonde Batty and maybe it is Iris who knows.

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We shall see. OK so Amaya, Papaya and Brian,
they got their night in the hideaway, they fucked.
He went down on her. I'm sorry for being so like
crass, but this season of Love Island is so much more open and
explicit about like the sex stuff than than the UK is by
far. And that more than past seasons

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because they had their code wordfor sex is journey, right?
So like we've been on a journey last night.
I'm sure you heard Amaya say that.
And like everybody's been on a journey like Huda, Huda and
Chris fucked, Nick and Sierra stayed fucking.
So like, and guess what? It's a it's over six weeks.
Most people when they've been dating someone for six weeks,

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they've boned. The biggest issue is the
location. There are cameras everywhere.
There are people all around. Under no circumstance would I
ever feel comfortable having sexin a room with a bunch of other
people who are supposed to be sleeping.
No, absolutely not. It's the hideaway or nothing for
your girl. So I, I do think it's like tacky

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and gross and somewhat uncivilized in that sense.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry, actually.
But I also, like, commend them because, yeah, over six weeks,
people are going to have sex. It would actually be very weird
if no one did. And nobody's being really weird
about it. In fact, it was Chris who was
like, what are you embarrassed? And you don't want to kiss me in

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public, but you want to have sexwith me?
Like, that's not typically the gender orientation that I would
have expected. So yeah, they, they have the
journey and the hideaway and things are going great for them.
Who do I think is going to make it into the final three?

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I think it's going to be Amaya, Papaya and Brian.
It's going to be Nick and Olandria and it's going to be
Shelley and Ace. That's what I'm saying right
now. OK, you quote me on this.
Nick, Olandria, Shelley and Ace and Amaya and Brian.
And I think Amaya and Brian shall win because Amaya carries

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a team. The love that that woman has
garnered. It's intense.
Amaya Papaya will win. Brian and 2nd will be Nick and
Oleandria because it's just everyone is rooting for their
love. Their love is our love.
And then we have Nick and Shellybringing up the rear because

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they've been together since the beginning, but they've had an
interesting ride. It hasn't been smooth sailing
forever. Something about the season of
Love Island feels like differently structured, you
know, And he was all that was this episode.
It was very, very good. Today is Wednesday, so I shan't
be watching it tonight. And that makes me very sad.

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Obviously nobody watches after show.
But yeah, I am rooting for Nick and Oleandria there where my
attention is at at the moment. Them and amaya papaya.
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