Please Don't Go To Jail Over Katy Perry

On this episode of Saron Things:

• Main Character Things: Personal Updates / Katy Perry Fans are Unhinged

• ​Things That Pop: Blake Lively Must Stop Speaking
• Hot Girl Things: Burkina Faso & Ibrahim Traore

• Reality Things: The Valley Season & Summer House

• Questionable Things: Stassi, Craig & Why Pop Culture

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Surround Things, a podcast where we talk about pop
culture, reality TV, and a bunchof other things that smart women
aren't supposed to care about because we don't care about the
patriarchy and what they deem appropriate or like elevated
entertainment around here. All right, so this is the first
week of like a rejiggered format.

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We've added in some segments, one of which is called
questionable things, where I answer your questions.
And I know, I know some people deem the whole like Q&A format
kind of lazy, but luckily part of my Braun is that you bitches
are smart, like legitimately smart.
So your reflection, your, your questions actually do reflect

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that. So I'm just going to call this
leveraging my organic resources that I've worked very hard to
cultivate, AKA you bitches. But we will be starting off
every week with a segment calledMain Character Things where I
regale stories of my week and you pretend like all of my

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thoughts and feelings are valid.OK, 'cause we're not asking for
approval here. We're just asking for blind
blind support really. And you know what?
Today we're starting off real strong in our main character
segment because I want to discuss something that happened
a mere moments ago. I received this e-mail.

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And if you guys haven't been looking at my social media
lately, I have discussed Katy Perry a few times.
Really, I maybe like 2 videos, just like 3 minutes and 30
seconds of content. I've dedicated to Katy Perry
since she started her tour and Ihave been so much more harsh, so

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much more critical, so much morebrutal than I ever was to this
lady. And yet this is the e-mail that
I received from Miguel Mendez. Title subject.
Sorry, first warning bitch. First and only warning first
sentence. Quit spreading fake garbage
about Katy Perry. Your whole TikTok is nothing but

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pathetic biased trash. The KCS are already mobilizing
to take down your accounts. Keep running your mouth and
you're disgusting families next.And no, it won't be a hate
crime. Just karma XOXO kissy face.
OK, Miguel, first and foremost, I truly hope that you weren't so
stupid that you used your real name to send me that message

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because my God, if it wasn't already so easy to find your IP
address and figure out the city and state where you live in.
If this is your actual real name, I have to give you a
standing ovation. Like I said before, I'm a good
sport about a lot of things. You can make fun of me for a lot

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of reasons. I have $2.00 teeth like a Bunny.
I have a giant forehead. My the thickness of my glasses.
It's almost weird if you don't make fun of how thick they are
right. And sure, yeah, I have
personality faults. We won't get into them.
But you can attack me based on alot of shit.
But when we're gonna go the hatecrime angle and you're going to

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involve my family, you're gonna get you're not gonna get like
Internet doesn't take herself soseriously.
Saron can can have criticism roll off her back.
Saron, you're going to. Get.
Serious Saron in serious Saron is a problem for you.
She will ruin your life in a waythat is fully within the bounds

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of the law. I will make sure this
reverberates through every moment of every single day of
the rest of your life. Not even Katy Perry can help you
now. Miguel, this has been shared
with FB Is Internet Crimes Division all right?
And also with your local Police Department, because I know where

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you reside as well as my District of Columbia Police
Department. And if you don't know,
perpetrating a crime against someone who lives in the
District of Columbia, specifically an Internet crime
is a federal transgression. I hope you're scared, Miguel.
I hope you're terrified. I hope every time the the you

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hear the door knock or every time your phone rings, you're
afraid that it is a law coming for you, because the law shall
come for you. You think you're crazy, Miguel.
You think you're crazy. You have no idea.
I have the time, the energy, theresources, and the stick to

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itiveness to make sure that you never forget about this mistake,
ever. You made the most severe
miscalculation of your life. I will never let this go, ever.
That's all. I'm making an example of him

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because I don't want anyone to ever get it fucking twisted.
I'm insane. I do not forgive.
I do not forget. And someone who generally takes
things not too seriously will let insults and criticisms roll
off their back. That's the person that you do
not want to step over the line with.

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Because once that line is crossed, there is no one
crossing it. There's no unringing the bell.
There is no placating me. Nothing matters.
Nothing matters to me other thanyou understanding exactly where
you went wrong and everybody knowing that I am not the one,
I'm not the one. I'm not the two, I'm not the

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three. OK, OK, Now we can move on to
something else, something a little bit more pleasant in my
that happened in my week. I was at my dog park.
I go there many times a week. You know, Henry loves it.
He gets to hang out with his little friends.

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I, you know, I'm not the most social person in all the land,
but I make sacrifices for my child.
And he was all we were at the dog park and I see a woman that
I had never seen before and she's there with her little
doodle. I love me a doodle.
I prefer a purebred poodle any day, but love a doodle, right.
So she I'm on my phone answeringemails, doing other stuff, not

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trying to engage. And I out of the corner of my
eye, I see her pick up Henry. And she's like doing the normal
thing. Like, Oh my God, you're so
cutie. You're so cutie handsome.
And then she looks up at me and we make eye contact and she
looks at me like, like she's telling me to come over, like
beckoning me. And so I put down my phone and I
walked towards her and she's like, Oh my God, what's his
name? And I tell her my dog's name is

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Henry. She tells me her dog's name.
I'm not going to lie, I do not recall because what happened
next is insane. She looked at Henry and she's
like, Oh my God, he needs a groom.
He looks like he's time for a grooming, right?
And I, I, I do this, I mean, andthen she goes, but he's the
cutest little ragamuffin. Ragamuffin first and foremost,

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when did it become OK to insult people's children?
Just like out of nowhere, we're at the dog park.
This is his sanctuary. This is his place of peace.
This is a place that he comes tonot be judged, OK?
And you're gonna call him a ragamuffin.
You're gonna tell me, look at meand my eyes and tell me you
should groom your dog 'cause he looks crazy, first and foremost.

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She's right. He does look a little Ragamuffin
esque, but Henry as a ragamuffinis adorable.
OK he is a Yorkie mixed so he's mostly Yorkie but he has some
Chinese crested in him and some other like random terrier.
So he's bigger than a normal Yorkie but he still has like the
fine Yorkie hair. He's just adorable.

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But it is his vibe to be a little ragamuffin esque.
He is meant to be a little scruff aluff, a little scruff
aloof. That is his nickname, Scruff
Aloof and I'm sorry. I'm sorry if my dog doesn't live
up to your like capitalist spend$120.00 every three weeks to

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make sure that he looks, I don'tknow, dog park ready just for
him to fucking roll around and some random dog's urine
immediately after. No, no, my dog looks as if he he
is allowed to live foot loose and fancy fancy free.
He's free. He's free as a bird, all right.
He, he doesn't live up. He doesn't need to live up to

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your beauty standards. He doesn't need to look quaffed
and well groomed. And you know what, bitch?
I saw that she's followed me on Instagram later and I stalked
her shit and tell me why that dog looks haunted.
She puts him in. What are they called again?

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Those things that you tie aroundthe neck?
A kerchief. She has a kerchief around that,
a handkerchief around that dog'sneck.
In every other photo posed groom, he looks like he he a
little fucking doggy mannequin. OK, so maybe she's projecting
onto me. She sees my dog looking free as
a bird, you know, rolling around, not giving a fuck.

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You know, just like living his good yuppie dog life.
And can I just say his hair, hisragamuffin hair, glowing glossy,
right? Never has met a mat in his life.
It helps that he's a Yorkie and he has hair and they don't get
matted. But like, he he he's never had a
tangle in that He gets a bath once a week, maybe twice if he

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does something particularly gross.
Right. He is on vitamin.
Do you know his vitamin regimen?He eats human grade food, like
fresh food since he was 3. This is the most well taken care
of dog in the world. OK, I just don't, I don't need
him to look like he's in the running for like Westminster.

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Whatever his his job is to just lay about, loaf about and live
and try not to cause too many expensive vet visits.
That's this is only responsibility.
He's not taking photo shoots. Who am I?
What am I trying to prove? OK, what is she trying to prove?

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What is she trying to prove? What is she trying to hide with
her perfectly groomed whatever doodle?
And listen, you know what, let me not insult her dog because is
his name Fenn? His name might be Fenn.
I don't know, maybe. And mind you, I've never seen

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her since and you and it's a it's a the dog park I was at is
members only. All right, you have to have a
car. You have to Ding in and Ding
out. You have to swipe in and swipe
out of it. Right.
So there's no riff raff about. We all know one another.
I've never seen this woman sincemaybe she just like, slid on in

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fucking with her Patagonia vest in her two tight fucking
ponytail, looking like, you know, the social chair of some
sorority turned wannabe HOA enforcer.
Get the fuck out of here. And I know, I know there's a
chance she might hear this because like I said, she did

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follow me on social media. But if you do, I wish I had said
this to you whilst I was at the park.
I wish I had said this shit to your face.
OK? I was just a little shaken.
I was gobsmacked that at what had happened.
So I was still getting my bearings because it's very like

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a ragamuffin. And I, I like the terminology
ragamuffin. I feel like it should be brought
back, but not not when it comes to Henry unless I'm the one
saying it. So yeah, fuck that bitch.
Too strong. I don't know.
Anyways, girl, I'm sure I'll forget in a week or so.

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Just like, let it pass. Don't bring this up if you see
me again, don't. Or do and apologize and it'll
make a fun story for next week. But yeah, that's that on that.
Onto our next segment called Things That Pop.
What? We Talk about things that
happened in pop culture this past week that we can't and
shan't ignore. And because I'm a petty bitch

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that shan't ever be silenced, Myfirst story is obviously about
Katy Perry and her disastrous lifetime story.
So this bizarre. Display of a lack of skill.
Talent OR effort really on Katy Perry's part during this tour
has brought up a lot of emotionsin people and a lot of stories

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of experiences that they've had with Katy Perry.
And I'd like to discuss my 2 favsies.
OK, the number 22 runner up. It's a story.
That this wonderful astrophysicist, I believe gave
who was who had the misfortune of auditioning for American Idol

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in front of Katy Perry. And apparently the judges had
been told that she was a rocket scientist essentially prior to
her giving her giving her performance.
And Katy Perry just latched ontothat shit allegedly and wouldn't
let it go. Like, she's just asking her the
most obtuse, ridiculous questions about astronomy, not

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astrophysics, and then just trying to belittle her and wraps
up this interaction by saying, well, I didn't even graduate
high school, but I'm going to space in five years.
So turns out Katy Perry was fully aware of this, of this,

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this, whatever you call it, this.
I was going to say mission, not a mission.
This publicity stunt of going, you know, just above the Earth's
atmosphere for 11 minutes and coming back down for quite some
time now. So, yeah.
And she's been using it to, I don't know, degrade actual

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female scientists, astrophysics,astrophysicists, astronauts for
some time now because it gave her some kind of validation that
it it definitely shouldn't have.It shouldn't have it.
Also, Speaking of her going up into space, you know what,

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Saron? Let's, I have to let me put a
pin in this because I have to finish up with my number one
story about her being disrespectful.
And it was to Michelle Obama. Allegedly this this gentleman on
TikTok told a story about how hewas at a fundraising event and

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Michelle Obama was a speaker. And he and the rest of the
people at the event noticed thatthere was some loud, obnoxious
noise in the background as Michelle Obama was attempting to
speak. And who is it but Katy Perry
playing Angry Birds loudly whilethe First Lady of the United

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States attempted to give her speech?
Katy Perry playing on her phone while Michelle Obama was trying
to speak and this man. Did a great job of explaining
how one of Beyoncé cause Beyoncéwas there allegedly girls had to
get up. Walk to Katy Perry, grab the

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phone out of her hand, slap intothe ground and say the first
lady is speaking. And allegedly Katie didn't
apologize. Katie just kind of looked off
into Dead Space until the woman with sense walked back to her
table and fist. Bumped Bee with her eyes.
Essentially so. Yeah, I will link both of those

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Tik Toks to, I'll link them somewhere.
They'll be here for you to find so you can watch them yourself
because those people tell that those stories so much better.
But the vibe is the same. She's insufferable nonsense
person with not enough talent for what the amount of sass and

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vibrato she brings to the table.Not enough talent, too much
sass. Not enough talent, too much
sass, you see. But back to outer space and Katy
Perry's, you know, moonlighting as an astronaut.

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So many people have said the hertour seems really disjointed and
bizarre because it was supposed to be like outer space themed.
It was supposed to have something to do with her trip
into the her 11 minute trip out into space, but since it was so
poorly received they had to shift over and make it the the

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lifetime story instead of like the, I don't know, outer space
astronaut, Astro fake astronaut tour.
I don't know what she would havecalled it, but that theory makes
so much sense to me considering all of like the intergalactic,
the robot that she keeps doing and the fighting of these

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creatures and monsters. And it's so weird.
It makes no sense. And the only thing that would
make sense is if she. Just wanted to hop off the back
of. Her Blue Origin trip and that
went so poorly that that had to be scrapped.
And now, now she's fighting, youknow, inflatable salesman and

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intergalactic villains without any context and it just looks
crazy and stupid, right? It would have still looked crazy
and stupid regardless, but I think she just did her.
Best with what they had planned.I'm not sad.
'Cause she's just the worst. And did you guys see her singing

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next to the poop? Like that's not camp.
She wants to be camp, she's corny.
She wants to be camp. She's corn as and that in my
comments so many times over the past week.
She wants to be camp, but she's corny and there needs to be more
mystique. There needs to be more lore for

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someone to pull off the camp thing.
But you can't just want to be camp and be camp.
That turns into corn and this bitch.
She's got stocks aplenty. I don't even know if I would be
talking about this right now hadI not been threatened by Oh my
God sorry. Side note, buy AKC, you know how

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Miguel was like. The KCS are mobilizing to take
down your accounts. I had to look up what the KCS
stand for. KCS stand for the Katy.
Cats Katy Cats The Katy Cats Ournext topic for things that pop
is Blake Lively. Her press Tora for another

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simple Favor, continues. This week she was on Seth
Meyers, and she gave us a littlechat about the movie being in
Italy, all of your normal stuff.And I will say that I think the
Blake Lively's biggest stumblingblock on this press tour is how
she's positioning herself as a spokeswoman for all women who

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have experienced sexual harassment or even assault, in
the case of her Times 100 speech.
I think it feels really. Icky to people that what really
kicked up dust for her this pastsummer was the fact that she was
hell bent on not addressing similar topics when she was
promoting a film that was quite literally about domestic

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violence, and for her to wedge it into every conversation on
this press store for another simple favor when it benefits
her. And only benefits her is a a
horrible look. If I'm being frank, I think

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she's working off of AAPR playbook from like the early
odds right where she assumes that the public is.
Stupid. The public does not understand
what is going on. They have no grasp of PR.
They have no grasp of media and how it works and the machine and

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you know how these relationshipsare made and how one gets on the
Times 100 list. Like this press tour.
Every move she has made in the public since December when she
filed her complaint has been so off.

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So terribly, terribly off. It feels as though.
Her team, whoever is advising her, maybe it's Ryan, hasn't
taken a step back to assess whather biggest stumbling blocks
are. What are the biggest?
Negative perceptions of her. And how do we not only avoid
that, but, you know, remedy it in a way that doesn't feel so

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forced and so obvious. Instead, it's just like, well,
they said they didn't like that she wasn't talking about TV, so
let's just talk about it now. Let's talk about it now a lot.
And obviously that's going to help because you know, you've
been you've been harassed. So like now you can talk about

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it and like, let's bring your mom into this too.
And now people are bringing up the fact that she's never known
anyone that she herself said that she has never known anyone
that has experienced any kind oflike domestic violence or, or
anything in that universe. And to come on to the Times 100
stage and tell her mother's story felt out of kind of like

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out of left field. And she didn't even explain what
happened to her mother. So it all felt really
manipulative, frankly. And it puts a bunch of people in
an awkward position because you didn't even try to manipulate it
as well. So there are so many women who

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have experienced the kind of assault that she is or
harassment that she is, you know, speaking about that are
livid and upset because I feel as though she's making a mockery
of what has gone on. And she keeps talking about it
as if she's a champion of this group of people who have already

(23:31):
received so much harm. And she's not taking into
account at all what they're saying.
Like, you can't be a champion for people who hate you.
Honestly, I have never seen such, such anger and, you know,

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vitriol pointed at someone who claims to have to be supporting
this group. It's insulting.
It's insulting to the people who've experienced their harm,
the loved ones, everyone who supports them.
And this is feedback that is readily and clearly available

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online. It is not a secret that this is
how every one of her moves has been, has, has been taken.
And I was surprised that I didn't wake up to her being, you
know, people's most beautiful woman of the year.
That's the route they were taking.
The fact that they put her on times 100 guys.

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Blows my mind. It blows my mind because the
conversation and to, to, to, to mention Giselle Pelico's name in
her speech, she pissed, pissed off people globally.
We got French women in my comments being like Stella Blue.

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No, not that. But you know, this is the vibe.
It's not. It's not.
Cute. It's not landing.
It doesn't read as sincere. I.
I, I don't know what you're doing.
In her interview with Seth Meyers, she said This year it
was, you know, filled with my highest highs and my lowest

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lows. OK, I thought you were.
Just like bedridden this entire time you I thought you literally
couldn't get out of bed. You were in such pain from his
actions. Where is the room for your
highest highs there? I, I don't, I don't see that
she's just not helping herself guys.

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She's not doing anything that would at all lend itself to
being a taken in positively by the public.
She's doing the exact same things that make her look self
absorbed, manipulative, and justlike a liar, just like a without
any empathy. Especially bringing in your mom.

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Why opening her up to the kind of criticism that she is bound
to face due to your actions and breaking her experience into
this seems like selfish and psycho to me.
And to also include Giselle Pelico and to invoke her name
and have it attached to such nonsense to her bullshit it is.

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It feels disrespectful as hell. She's.
She's not dealing in reality. But the thing that really fucks
me is that in her complaint, there was an entire section
dedicated to how her public persona and how her public
perception have been negatively impacted.
And like you can do social listening and see, you know, the

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ways that Blake Lively's name was mentioned over the past, you
know, six months is very different than the past six
years. Her the mentions became very
negative from August 2024 to to now.
She is aware of her perception has been marred since her the

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press tour for it ends with us, right?
She sees her criticisms and yet she is not moving in a way as
someone with the answers to the test, she does first part, shut
the fuck up. Shut the fuck up, shut the fuck
up. You got to shut the fuck up.

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And This is why I think that she's she's she and Ryan are
probably at the helm of this PR ship on their own.
Because if shut the fuck up is rule number one, that is a rule
they they can't follow. They can't follow.
Words are their enemy, and yet, and yet they they keep inviting

(27:53):
the enemy to the party. They just need to shut the fuck
up because even if they say the right thing, it's going to be
interpreted wrong, full stop. Fortunately, they have yet to
say anything that makes any kindof goddamn sense, so there isn't
much room for interpretation there.
But. It.
Doesn't help you at all to be saying anything right now.

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All of your attacks against. Justin Baldoni and his team
being like super, their approachbeing very public and brash and
gaudy. Luckily, her arguments about
that. Being the wrong move and how you
know? Court cases are won in court and

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not outside of it. The hypocrisy of her saying
those kinds of things when she started off this entire battle
by bringing unfiled complaint tothe New York Times to publish.
At least that has stopped right?We've seen a shift too.
I am now a champion of the womenand hopefully, hopefully she

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sees that is also not working and that does stop as well.
The only place they can go is silent.
Shut the fuck up, let people forget about you.
You have a year until this actually plays out in court.
All right, every single time someone sees your stupid little

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face, every, every word that comes out of your mouth is going
to be picked apart and. For you to.
Continually try to attach yourself to things that people
actually take seriously and theyhave an emotional, spiritual,
whatever attachment to. You it's going to be taken as

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insulting and no matter how muchyou shove your shit down our
throat, it's not that's not going to change.
And I think that one of the. More strategic things that
happened during her press tour for another Simple Favor is the
fact that her and Anna Kendrick have been split up for A Simple

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Favor. They work together all the time
and we got all of these clips ofAnna, not really them, them not
sparring verbally, but not the most comfortable bestie
interactions. And in this environment where
everything that Blake Lively does is not even under a
microscope. It is it.
We're right here. We are in that bitch's face

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picking everything apart. And they don't have the kind of
relationship rapport where that would have worked out nicely for
Blake, right? I mean, she was asked on the red
carpet. Anna Kendrick was asked.
How was it working with Blake again?
And her response was, you know, and we're still running with

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that shit and it's been almost amonth.
So keeping them apart, not giving the press any clips, not
giving them any kind of, not adding any fuel to the fire,
whatever metaphors or aphorisms.You want to throw in there that
was definitely the smart move because Anna Kendrick doesn't
strike me as the one who can pretend to like you in real

(31:12):
life, right? She doesn't seem like a fake
bitch in real life. Maybe a bitch, but not a fake
one. And what more can you ask for,
really? So TLDR about Blake Lively's
press tour for another Simple Favour?
I think it's gone as well as it could given her current tactics.

(31:37):
Given her current approach, I think.
Still doing much worse at the than if she had someone
competent at the helm of her PR tactics.
If she had someone that was telling her the truth and.
Was it like just, you know, yes,Team Blake all day.
I'm sure that they're surroundedby nothing, but like, yes,

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you're great people. She doesn't strike me as.
Having the personality that would deal with anything else
so. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know.
I think we're at the end of it, like it's officially out on
streaming now we just have to sit and wait and the the, what

(32:21):
are they called again? The reviews haven't been
particularly great, but who the fuck cares really?
I don't remember saying the first one.
I know that like a lot of peoplehave positive feelings about it.
I don't know. It's just like Lively is a bad
actress. She is the same person in every
fucking. Like, I look at her and I just
see Blake Lively. You're not.

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And that's by design, as we've learned after reviewing all of
her, all of her interviews and all the commentary on her own
films and her actions are wardrobe and whatever she said
herself many a time. She's not an actress, she's a
city shitty costumer slash stylist cosplaying as an
actress, but she's really just being herself the entire time.

(33:02):
It is what it is, Strang. She's looked fabulous on her
press tour though. Can oh, I will give her some
credit. That red carpet where she was
wearing that blue and white number where people were like,
Oh my God, she had the worst dress faux pas.
What is it called again? Red carpet snafu?
I don't know. Anyways, people were just like,
oh, her dress is so fucked up. And it was just like her body

(33:25):
makeup on her underarms. Like come on guys, we can say a
lot about that bitch. But she looked good.
Blink Lively is beautiful. She's stunning gorgeous.
Like there is no denying that and me trying to deny that
doesn't give me more credibility.
It it makes me look crazy if I would try.

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Because guess what? She looked like a bad.
Bitch at the times 100 gala thatoutfit slayed the hair.
Incredible. What can I think?
And The thing is when she's wearing a cohesive look, a
single like like a matching set or one dress that.

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Doesn't involve a lot of accessories.
She generally does do a good job.
It's the accessories that fucks her up.
She's like she does the oppositeof what Coco Chanel recommended.
You know you you're about to leave, you always take off 1
accessory. No, she's about to leave.
She has her whole fucking jewelry bauble bar right at her

(34:28):
front. Door and she's like what more
Bengals can't add to this situation choker yeah a feather
in my hair abso fucking lutely let's do this let's do a.
Double C Pearl necklace with a Versace choker and maybe a
Vivian Westwood drop dangle earring and a crown.
Yes, dinner. Here we come.

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That is that's that's Blake. That's like, I don't know how we
got here. But here we are.
I don't know if I landed a single plane in this segment,
but I felt very passionately about every single thing I
discussed. Next subject, we are talking
about reality TV things. And this was a good week in

(35:12):
reality TV, Great week, frankly.And I would like to start with
Summer House. First and foremost, I'm looking
at you, Carl. How are you going to start a
conversation with Sierra with myDick?
Game was bad the first time I had sex after a year and then
follow that up with I have a huge crush on you.

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What do you think? No Sir.
No Sir. If if there's anything that
proved to me you were out of thegame for too long, it was that
moment because you don't start the conversation with I no
longer know how to fuck properly.
Would you like to go out with me?
That is essentially what he did.And honestly though I I love

(35:56):
Carlito, I have AI have a soft spark in my soul with for
Carlito, I think him separate from Lindsay they.
Are I? Love them both separately.
I love Lindsay, I love Lindsay. Lindsay is hilarious.
Every time she rubs her belly I go oh she's so fucking cute with

(36:17):
her little belly out. She's not giving a fuck about
anything. Open doors for not complaining
just she's the best. She is the best When Wes said
the second you pop this one out Turner put another one in her.
I felt it, you know, it felt a little maybe misogynistic,
especially after Wes had said that thing about like, what do

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you mean this is probably Lindsay's last season because
what is there going to be a a baby in the house that weekend
over the weekends after that. I was a little side eyeing him
and his reaction to Lindsay, butsuch a good point.
I don't know. I don't know, it's the hormones.
Maybe it's the HGH. Like the something in her spirit

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has shifted. Guys, she's not the same
Lindsay. She's not the same Lindsay.
And he was like. But but Carl is the same Carl
and I was just. Looking at another picture side
now, Tanja, I was looking at a picture of him from a couple
seasons ago. Actually it was Hannah's last
season. I guess it was like season 5 or
6, like the COVID season and it was the one I posted a story

(37:23):
about this. Like Paige's hand is like
weirdly on Carl's thigh and every time I see it I just like
so weird. And he was old.
He needs. He lost 20 lbs of liquor, OK.
He lost 20 lbs of beer. He lost 20 lbs of alcohol
weight. I need him to gain that weight
back. OK, 'cause he's going to the

(37:44):
gym. He's tight, he's right, he's
just skinny. He is at his baddest bitch self
with an extra 20 lbs of muscle on him or even honestly an extra
20 lbs of like, I just need morein the face.
You can't be gaunt, more gaunt in the face than I am.
He's like, it's like fucking supermodel status.

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Like those are sharp. The cheekbones are sharp and
usually I'd say great, but I've seen what he looks like as at
his like peak fuck boy self, 20 lbs heavier and that shit is it.
It pulled a page. It pulled a page.

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What we're doing right now isn'tpulling the Sierra, although
your personality has improved, right, Your business acumen
still has still has a lot of room to grow.
OK, I'm when I they have a lease.
OK, he has a lease for his bar and that's good.
That's good, that's good. But still there's only so much

(38:54):
you can control. And for for men, it's like their
body mass and their muscle and their weight.
Like go to the gym three times and you and men have like
fucking ABS. It's not the same for us.
So all Carl needs to do is decide I'm going to have a
couple more shake shacks a week and maybe go to the gym like one

(39:19):
day less and we're back where weneed to be.
Can you imagine that's the that is what solves his aesthetic
issues is more. Shake Shack less.
Gym. What a motherfucking dream,
guys. What a goddamn dream did you
guys. Say the thing about Alexia and
this also applies to reality TV things cause technically that is

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Kyle's daughter but this is a very side note situation.
I saw a TikTok of Kyle's daughter and it doesn't matter
which daughter because they're all fucking skinny as hell.
Never been anything but skinny as hell, period.
Her saying that she has lost clumps and clumps of her hair
and she might be bald by next week because she was prescribed

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to GLP one. And you guys know, you know, my
stance on GLP ones and like Ozampic is if you give a fuck,
if you give a fuck, if you're like, oh, they're taking the
easy way out. It's because you think that
being thin is one of the things that makes you special, and you
just can't tolerate the idea. Of it being more egalitarian, a

(40:28):
more egalitarian world where youdon't have some kind of a weird
edge just by the fact that your metabolism is on one versus
other people's, right? If that's one of the things that
makes you feel like special, interesting, unique, you got to
deal with that bitch first. Because being thin has never

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made someone more interesting. It's never made someone smarter,
it's never made someone cooler, it's never made someone
anything. As time goes on, I think we
understand that more, especiallyin 2025.
So. If you're like you never give a
fuck about Ozempic or GOP ones or Trisepatides before so stop

(41:10):
trying to pretend like oh. My God, to be the diabetic's
name is so mad and you're just taking.
You don't give a fuck about the diabetics.
In fact you were making fun of the diabetics before too, I'm
sure. I'm sure you were.
If you give a fuck about people using Ozempic to lose weight
now, you were the kind of personthat was making fun of anyone
with like the type of diabetes that you get.

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I don't know whether it's type one or two from weight related
reasons. You shouldn't care, and if you
do care, it's a red flag. It's a red.
Flag to me for sure, and this iscoming from a skinny bitch.
I feel like I it carries more weight, no pun intended, that I
feel this way because as a bitchthat has been skinny forever.

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When I saw that people started to take Ozempic, my first thing
was, this is so exciting. Like 'cause food noise, I know
it must fuck you up deeply and it's a psychological.
Thing truly. So how the fuck?
You know what? Back to summer house, OK.
Oh, Lindsay. I love Lindsay.

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Carl is confusing and thin and we need Carl to be bigger.
We got it. We're back.
We're back. We're back.
Back, back, back. Carl, it needs 20 more pounds on
his body. That's it.
Moving on. Jesse.
Hi. I'm Jesse.
I'm going to look at you in the eyes as I say this.

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For someone who has been throughso such like deep life or death
situations, you would think thisman would be more emotionally
involved because if he is not the most quintessential fuck boy
in all of fuck boy land, I don'tknow who is.
Like it's a he is case in point,every fuck boy I've ever come

(43:03):
across in my life. Jesse Solomon is him.
And I saw what I don't know whatwas on, but he was asked about
Lexie and oh, about his. Him love bombing Lexie, which he
fucking did. But when he was asked about
that, he was like, oh, when you're when you're like trying

(43:25):
to get a girl like Lexi who's like been out with Drake and
like Brooklyn Beckham and whatever, you got to like be
clear. You got to make sure they know.
That you're into them. You can't give them room or
space to be into someone else. And it's just like.
Oh my God. You don't do what you think will
keep her around if it is not actually what you want.

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If it's not what you want, then you're lying to get what you
want. You know she said she wants to.
She only hooks up with men, has sex with men that she is in a
committed relationship with, right?
You knowing that you do not wantto be in a committed
relationship but saying I will do it for her sake.

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I will be. I will be with one person, I
will be exclusive. I won't fuck anyone else so that
I can have sex with her. Without being honest to with
yourself about your own emotionsand your own feelings, it's
still lying. Like just don't pretend so you

(44:32):
can find a woman who wants to fuck you without strings
attached, without the emotional baggage and bullshit that comes
with you trying to be someone's boyfriend when you're not.
And like the lying, the gaslighting, the it's just so

(44:52):
it's just so gross and like textbook.
And after hearing him say like him.
The love bombing, the I. Love you I love you so much I
love you I love you from week #2was a.
Tactic. To get her to, you know, trust
him and be invested in him and like set him apart from all of

(45:13):
like the bigger players that might be going after her because
you're you're intimidated by thecaliber of man that he she does
attract. EW, EW, EW, EW.
It also, I mean, it's just the way that he thinks he's so
affected. He's so like status focused.
He's so shallow, like he he doesn't have the natural sauce

(45:35):
right? He has the elements of of
someone who, who's like, who hasthe sauce, but he doesn't
actually have it. He's thinking too much about it.
Like when he was asked about Paige, now that she's broken up,
he was like, she's gonna marry aYankee or she's gonna date a
Yankee or something after this. Like, not me.
True. First and foremost.

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She could be dating a Yankee, but stop, stop thinking about it
like that. Just try and be normal.
Just try to be a normal nice kind of person and see what the
fuck happens. Oh my God.
He's just the worst. He reminds me of every.
Like he reminds me of why I was single for so long.

(46:19):
Between my my. Two life, big life
relationships, right? I.
Was single for so many fucking years.
Well first and foremost because I cheated on that first
boyfriend and I myself was like I can't.
I cannot commit to another person if I can't with my full

(46:43):
soul be like I am in this and I'm not going.
To cheat and for me to be invested in a man, they have to
actually give me something to beinvested in.
I think one of my favorite things about myself personally
is like how much you like me. Impacts how much I like you in a

(47:04):
positive way. Maybe it's like the reverse
daddy issues, right? Like some girls like it when men
are like, oh, I'm, I'm like, I play hard to get.
And run away. And you know, you got to chase
them. I'm not chasing anyone for
anything. I'm not, frankly, I'm not doing
anything. I think the biggest green flag

(47:26):
about someone is thinking that I'm fantastic, right?
Like brilliant, incredible checkmark yes, great.
You think I'm great. We got that one together and
I'll let let's see if I figure out figure you're great.
So the whole fuck boy thing never really worked for me
because the second you neck me, I'm out.
You know I usually hate big foreheads, but with you it looks

(47:47):
kind of distinguished like that wouldn't send me that would make
me laugh, of course, and then I would ask I don't know.
Does that work with most Ethiopian women?
Because I would imagine that's. It's a specific tactic with us
because if us and Somalis really.
All horners, horners of Africa we got we got big ones and but

(48:10):
then I would be out, you know, be nice to me.
It you can tell with Jesse, he said it outright like.
When I meet a girl that I'm into, I like to figure out how
far I can push her, you know, before I move any further.
And that is psycho behavior, right?
We saw it with Lexi when he was like.
Do you think you're a Dead Sea? And she was like, bitch, excuse

(48:35):
me? I am a little offended that you
asked me that. Like who?
And do you think you sound like,I don't know, Frank Sinatra with
a, with a whooping cough when you sing?
Do you think that's weird? Do you think it's?

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Weird that you don't know words that are more than three
syllables long. Jesse, Jesse, let's not play
this game. You think you're deadsy?
I I was pleased that she at least pushed back on that one.
Next next on the reality TV chopping block is the Valley.

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First and foremost, we have to discuss Jessie, Jessie Lally.
I watched the after show for theValley and I feel like that's a
show where it's very important that you actually watch the
after show because. They give the T and turns out
Jessie Lally is poor. Jessie Lally is poor.
All right, P oor. And you cannot be the kind of

(49:46):
douche bag that Jesse Lally is and be poor, OK?
You cannot be a douche bag with an air mass blanket tossed over
your fucking love seat and be poor.
You cannot shove Capri. Capri.
It's Capri, not Capri. Capri and be poor.

(50:08):
All right? It is embarrassing.
You can only be that kind of douchebag if your bank account
allows it and you not honestly, Even then, you can't be that
kind of douchebag. But at least I won't be calling
you poor while you're trying to tell teach people how to
pronounce. Capri.
Capri, Capri. Any man with an air mass.

(50:32):
Throw a blanket. Girls, listen to me.
Look, I'm looking at you right now in the eyes.
Any man with an air mass throw blanket is a man you must run
from. You must run never never a man
with a fucking designer throw a blanket of any sort, let alone

(50:55):
an Airmesz 1 and Airmesz one. That's you're you're dealing
with Peak douche Lord. Oh my God I would love a man
who's familiar with Hermes but truly it only when it comes to
buying things for a woman. And even like I find a man with

(51:16):
an Hermes belt tacky as fuck if it's an H.
If it's one of the HS, honestly I find any kind of branded belt
like the GS. No, only I I, I was trying to be
not a bitch, but let me be actually honest.
I find any like overtly branded accessories embarrassing.

(51:41):
Deeply embarrassing for any sex,gender or whatever.
But especially. For a man.
Oh. My God, I'm it's always a big
fucking red flag. That and you know, American flag
pin on the lapel. Those are the accessories that
are not allowed anything brandedor an American flag pin.

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And not because I'm not a patriot, a patriot I am.
I'm just not a Republican. Can I say though, I'm still not
a big fan of Michelle. I don't like Michelle.
Michelle is weird. She's only she's like half a
personality. Oh my God, I just remembered
this. She said that Jesse is worse

(52:25):
than Jax. That's fucking crazy 'cause at
least Jesse isn't cooked out, you know, he at least Jesse is
still living on planet earth. At least Jesse doesn't have
Satan living inside of him. Jesse is a date rape Bobby

(52:46):
pastel polo predator. Like just a just a giant prick
tool douchebag. Right?
And I hate I hate when women were like but he was so
different when I first started dating him and he suddenly.
Wait a minute, at least I respect Brittany for being
honest about that. She was asked like what are what

(53:08):
are the things that you disregarded about Jax that you
wished you had paid attention to?
And she said straight up how he treats.
People, period, right? She disregarded that.
But the Michelles of the world would be like, well.
He was just so different before.Like, yeah, Jesse was ever a
down to earth, rational, unaffected, just not shallow,

(53:31):
completely full of nothing but hot air and credit card debt.
You. Expect us to believe that he was
ever anything but. That no.
Obviously just say I personally grew.
I realized that attaching myselfto such a horror wouldn't only

(53:51):
like the the terror he and the negativity he inflicts upon the
world would also be inflicted upon me.
I thought I was the exception tothe rule.
Turns out I'm not and the selfish psycho fuck that I
married is. You know that times 10 once
there's another person AKA or child to take care of.
So Michelle, I think she doesn'tit, she doesn't give good

(54:16):
person. Brittany chose to marry the
devil. Something.
There is still a light in her that I can see, you know.
There's still good in her. Michelle, I don't see the good.
Even with what's her name, the one I can't with Janet, there is
like decency in there, right? With Michelle, No, Oh my like

(54:37):
spiritual girlies. What color is that, bitches?
Or a whatever color aura that is.
I don't want it anywhere near me.
What whoever has that color aura, they're not getting any my
secrets. They're not spending any time
with my children. They're never meeting my
husband. I'm I'm not taking them to
church. She might explode into flames
like there is a darkness there that kind of reminds me.

(54:58):
This is so crazy, guys. This is going to be one of the
craziest things or predictions. Or whatever.
But I mentioned this last season, I was like, I see
something between her and Jax. I see a kindred spirit, I I see
a connection there. I see a.
They see each other in a way there is a mutual.

(55:20):
Respect between Jax and Michelle, that makes me wonder
about her too. OK, and that's all because I
have nothing more than my gut feelings about that just just to
be gone. But.
That is how I feel. And if some weird shit happens

(55:41):
with those two, at some point, Ineed us to come back to this
moment. Someone you know screen record
this and do a fucking duet side by side because I feel it.
I feel it, they see. Each other, they see each other
in a weird way, they feel kindred.
All right, I think that's it forreality TV.

(56:01):
Thanks. Moving on to our next segment,
Hot girl things. It's a segment where we take a
couple minutes out of our day totalk about what's happening in
politics, policy and World News because hot girls, we stay
informed. So this week we're talking about
Burkina Faso, specifically what's going down between 35
year old military leader IbrahimTraore and France, AKA the

(56:25):
country that colonized half of the continent and still wants to
pretend it's doing Africa some kind of favor.
So Burkina Faso used to be called Upper Volta until 1960,
when it finally got so fed up with French colonial rule that
it said actually let let's not. Here's the part that France
never really talks about, though.

(56:46):
They never actually left. Sure, you know, they packed up
their flags. The military parades are gone.
But they left behind a currency system that they control,
military bases that they operateand trade agreements that are so
fucking lopsided that they make our unpaid internships from 2007
seem ethical. OK, France has had has made

(57:10):
billions off of Burkina's natural resources, gold,
manganese and cotton. And while the country has
remained one of the poorest in the entire world, not the
continent, the world. And that's not coincidence.
That's by design. And when the people start to
push back, France suddenly becomes the victim.
Why are they building a flags? That's the best I can do.

(57:31):
Girls, be serious. OK?
Enter Ibrahim Trawer. OK?
He's a young, charismatic, military trained, and he's
absolutely done with the puppet show.
He took power in 2022 in a coup and almost immediately started
slapping France's hands out of Burkina's faucet pockets.
French troops? They're gone.
French diplomats? Goodbye.

(57:52):
French mining firms, you're on notice.
And he's not just talking Pan Africanism, he's walking it
barefoot through gold mines thatthe French used to control.
And of course, the West is clutching its pearls.
Oh, he's turning to Russia? No, he's turning away from a
colonial master who's looted thecountry for 130 years and still

(58:14):
wants to dictate terms. Let's be honest, a former
colonial power still controllingyour currency in 2025 is not a
partnership. It's extortion in a beret.
Like carrying a fucking baguetteNow.
OK, I won't romanticize everything that Charrey's done.
He's cracked down on journalist and he seems to be restricting
some civil liberties. But liberation without democracy

(58:38):
is just a rebrand of the same strongman playbook.
And we've seen that one before, but I don't think it's the same
one that Ibrahim is running. You know what they're not doing?
Pretending France was ever. A good guy.
Here they've spent decades extracting wealth, sabotaging
uprisings, and backing leaders who would keep the doors open

(59:00):
for exploitation. So what's the hot girl take away
here? Decolonization isn't a vibe,
it's a war and France is fight is fighting to stay in control
without being invited. OK and not every anti western
leader is an hero but every ex colonizer trying to cry about

(59:20):
instability is usually mad the ATM has stopped working.
OK and yes it will always be about the pasta right?
Except in this case, the pasta is sovereignty.
Gold. And the right to exist without
France lurking in your bank account anyways.

(59:41):
Well, that is it for this week'shot Girl things.
Unlearn the propaganda, reread your contracts, and never trust
colonial powers with the press release about peace all.
Right. Moving on to Questionable
Things, where I answer your questions and pretend I'm
qualified to have opinions aboutany of your life choices and

(01:00:02):
give you justifications for someof mine.
We'll start with a question fromSeriously Lynn, where she asks a
LA culturistas what pop culture moment made you say pop culture
is for me. And I don't think it was a
specific moment. I think it was the building of
resentment really in my last relationship.

(01:00:26):
It was a point. Of contention our interests in
entertainment. He very much looked down on
things like the housewives and Idon't know non what he would
call like intellectually stimulating.
And I found it incredibly frustrating because the person

(01:00:49):
who he started dating hadn't changed.
Like I am a politically minded, you know, career focused.
I'm a serious person. Big portion of my career is
focusing on what people would consider traditionally serious
things. And the idea that a woman whose

(01:01:09):
days can be spent worrying aboutpolicy and, you know,
legislation and really thinking about these intense topics that
have immediate implications whenit comes to people's lives does

(01:01:29):
not mean that I can't enjoy watching Real Housewives of
Atlanta and, you know, cracking the fuck up at what they're
saying because it's not highbrowenough.
No, I find the idea of like highbrow and lowbrow
entertainment stupid. And I've always been this person
because I studied creative writing literature in school and

(01:01:54):
there is this idea of genre fiction versus literary fiction
and, and you know, literary fiction is often considered
Canon. It is, you know, what serious
authors, as serious readers read.
There is, you know, metaphors and, and all of this lyrical
language and symbolism and all of this shit that you can parse

(01:02:17):
A parse through and literary theory that you can throw at it
and just like, pontificate for days.
But at the same time, as someonewho loves all literature, genre
fiction aggressively included, Ifind it absurd.

(01:02:37):
To think that entertainment should be should be considered
worthy or worthwhile based on what kind of like cultural
significance a certain group of people believe it should have on
the world. No, this feels and sounds
incredibly self important and I'm prepared to be picked apart

(01:02:57):
for this statement. But it feels important to
emphasize that women contain multitudes and what is
considered traditionally or quintessential women's
entertainment. Women's lit, chick lit, reality
television, pop culture shit that is considered or deemed

(01:03:19):
less stimulating or productive for society that people smart
women. Push to the front that that is a
huge part of what's going on in their brains day-to-day to say
that pop culture doesn't have any influence on the culture and
is somehow less than because. It's not just some white man

(01:03:39):
pontificating upon his non existent struggles is absurd to
me. So it it feels feels like an act
of protest, you know, talking insuch depth about Summer House
and Paige de Sorbo's take on feminism.
And I think that the more smart women do not shy away from those

(01:04:02):
things, the more confidently we can all walk through this world
containing multitudes. I am ashamed of nothing that I
am that I find entertaining. And I find it offensive that
some people, some, you know, pick me bitches and some, some,
you know, quintessential douchebags would look down on it

(01:04:24):
when? How dare you?
How dare you. The smartest women I know.
Brilliant women, and not just an.
You know, the classical liberal arts.
Sense. I mean like scientists,
physicians, astrophysicists. I know surgeons care.
About this shit, all right, And if men are allowed?

(01:04:48):
To, you know, contain multitudesin that they can watch men just.
Bash their heads together every fucking week for months watching
football and that's somehow considered, well, it's really
smart. There's a lot of real, you know,
tactic and thought involved these plays and blah blah.
You don't think there's a lot oftactic and thought involved in

(01:05:09):
these interactions between the housewives?
Tell me a more complex social hierarchy conversation that's
happening socio economically. Like I can write a thesis on
this shit and make you feel verystupid.
It's just like an act of. Protest, really my love of pop
culture and my bringing it to the forefront because I could.
Sit. Here and talk about politics all

(01:05:31):
fucking day, but that's what I do all day.
Anyways. I am a multifaceted lady with
interests that run the gamut andall are as valid as the the
next. Just want it to be clear that
smart women like a lot of thingsand I'm a smart lady who sees a

(01:05:52):
lot of value in summer house. So say lobby.
Thank you again, Lynn. That was a fabulous question.
I very much appreciate it. Next crucial so was Craig being
shady when he started off that video slash ad that he just
posted with as an author and then he was holding the book

(01:06:14):
that beat how to giggle to number 1.
I believe it was let them by MelRobbins or whatever.
Was he being shady? Yeah, he was obviously being
shady. Obviously he was being shady.
He is unwell. If I could take a guess with the
amount of like back-to-back to back undeniable front page kind

(01:06:35):
of mainstream success that Paigeis experiencing right now from
her being the face of Tresemme'snew whatever to her book to the
New York Times feature to her being glamour.
Like he has been on watch What Happens, lives three times and

(01:07:00):
then did the Tamron Hall show and she has done all of those
things. I think the fact that the crux
of her, the conversation about the demise of the relationship
has to do with her being the breadwinner and people have been
so like bread, it only means breadwinner if you're like

(01:07:23):
paying their bills and if they're doing, you're doing
bills together, she specificallysaid.
Can he sustain the lifestyle that we have right now together,
alone? On him when I make more money
than he does right now. If he cannot, what she's used
to, what she wants to buy, whereshe wants to go, what she wants

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to do. If he can't sustain that
lifestyle and she is the breadwinner and she's earning
enough bread to sustain them both, that's what she means.
By that, she doesn't mean she's paying his phone bill.
She's saying that in their life,they are only able to do all the
things that they are able to do together, live this life that
they do because she. Is making it rain and then also

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how can she be the breadwinner? He has a brick, a couple of
brick and mortar operations. The overhead costs for him are
through the roof. He has a business partner.
It's not it's not just like Paige has Hannah right, but only
in the avenue of giggly squad. Otherwise Paige is fashion girly

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Paige like she didn't Paige didn't get her tresemme deal
with Hannah right. That is just a Hannah thing.
That's just a Paige thing. Like Paige didn't do her
Hannah's Netflix special with her.
That's just a Hannah thing. They are two multifaceted,
talented women with their own avenues that come together to

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create something insane and magical.
But they already have. They are.
All stand alone people on their own they are able to make money
stand alone. Craig has his pillow business
with his business partners, multiple that run it day-to-day
and the stores and. He also has his podcast with

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Austin that isn't even isn't isn't 1/10 of a million.
Of as successful as what Paige and Hannah have going on so
obviously Paige makes more yeah,he's a lawyer but So what like
he doesn't really he doesn't practice and he owns two stores
like. Being a business.

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Owner doesn't make you wealthy. Doesn't make you very rich
automatically. Did Craig do that on purpose is
how we got here? And yes, he did.
He was being shady. And I think it was clocked as
weird by most that clocked it and or not registered at all by

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the others. But like the people who are team
Craig, I don't think it like they even acknowledged it
because it's embarrassing because first of all, you didn't
even write that book Craig, Craig.
No, Craig, not Craig any longer.You didn't even write that book,
Craig. That was ghost written for you.

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You didn't make it onto any of the bestseller lists.
It's barely your. It has your name on it.
I'm sure you gave some ideas, but you don't have a voice,
right? To be true to.
So it could be AI even. Whereas we know what Page sounds
like and so does her publisher, which is why they made them, her

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and Hannah write this shit themselves.
So I wouldn't be so proud of that.
It just looks petty and weird. That's that on that for me.
And my last question for the day, Oh, and that's from that
question about Craig was from Pinky Gelato Gelato.
OK, Pinky Gelato as in like the ice cream.

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So my last question is, you've posted about Stassi.
Isn't she super racist and problematic from Jamie L
Schneider. OK Jamie, you do not mince your
words Boo Boo. Isn't Stassi super racist?
No, no, I think what Stassi did was fucked up.

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If you are not familiar, Stassi Schroeder was cancelled in 2020
because it came to light that she called the police like a tip
line for the LAPD because she said that Faith, one of her, one
of the people on Vanderpump Rules at the time, had stolen a

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coat. And at the time, it was at the
tip of every tongues, at the topof every conversation, that the
police and black people don't have a very great relationship.
It's often fraught and you know,the fact that she and Kristen
Doty called the police on a woman, an innocent woman,

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because the picture she they hadseen was not of was not of
faith. It was just another random black
woman with a coat that kind of looks similar to the one that
had been stolen. And calling the cops on her
could have had a deadly effect because often.
Times, you know. The police are called on black

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people and no matter how benign or nonviolent the situation was,
they end up dead. And so she had a the the
backlash to that was very negative.
The the the fallout was swift and both Christian Doty and and
Stassi lost their jobs on Vanderpump Rules.

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They hired the same crisis PR firm.
They both put out the same statement, but that's as far as
their the similarities went withhow they approached this.
This was not the first time thatStassi was problematic in her in
how she spoke about like race issues.
I remember there was a moment where she said something along

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the lines of why do we always have to hear about like raised
in these acceptance speeches forlike award shows, Like I just
want to hear about the whatever,it doesn't always have to be
blah, blah, blah. So she was she was just the most
ignorant bitch you could see youcould find in the land right
about this subject matter. And when she was cancelled, her

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and Kristen, although they were cancelled for the same exact
thing, took a very different approach.
Kristen doubled down on it was just a tip line.
It's not like I actually called the police.
And This is why XYZ, why Faith is bad, doubling down on the
excuses, constantly saying, but it was just a tip line.
I didn't actually call the police.

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It was just a tip line and making herself the victim every
single time it came up up to thepoint where where she was
finally back on television on the valley.
She still was the victim when itcame to like the subject of
race. She's never taken full ownership

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over the issue. Stassi, same exact situation.
That bitch disappeared off the pace of the planet.
OK, she was cancelled. She was cancelled in a way that
I've never seen anyone cancel before.
Her podcast was taken off the air straight up with Stassi
going right. Delete it.
She lost everything and I I'm I'm glad that she felt the

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repercussions of her actions, asshe should, but her response to
losing everything was introspection.
I am this whole conversation we have about cancel culture.
I think it's silly, right? I've never met.
I've never met a person with character.

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I've never come across a person with like integrity or character
morals, like solid values, who complaints constantly about, you
know, cancel culture is so awful.
It. Those are just people who don't
like accountability. And with this kind of fallout
that I think was absolutely necessary for Stassi to become
the person that she is now. She disappeared.

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She hired a. Tutor to teach her about black
people. Laugh at it all you fucking
want, as absurd as it sounds, and it does initially sound
absurd to me that you would haveto hire a professional to teach
you about American history. But she was so embarrassed about
her lack of knowledge that she. She hired someone, went to class

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every fucking week with her notebook to learn some shit and
every single time that the that what happened with Faith, what
she did with Faith. Can't comes up.
She is she she talks about herself, what she did wrong, how
she could have done better and how she is different now.

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And I find that so fucking respectable.
I am not. I don't think that cancel
culture is even a real thing. Frankly.
I don't know what other than like straight up murder or
things involving children, I don't see much that people can't
come back from. And I as someone who follow, I

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don't know what it is about Stassi.
Like I've always enjoyed her. Personality in general.
I like that she is not afraid tobe a bitch and I do think she's
actually smart. And I was more.
Invested in Stassi's growth thanI was in Kristen's, but Kristen
never really gave me anything tohold on to 'cause I don't think

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she hasn't. There isn't much substance
there. But with Stassi, I I saw a
change. I'm someone who listens to her
Patreon. I listen to her podcast too.
I have. And I also feel responsibility
to continue listening because it's like, don't, don't

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embarrass me, bitch. I have said I am impressed with
your growth. You better stay grown, you know,
you grown up. And so far she's made me proud.
Like she is not that person. She really isn't guys.
She. And I know after like five years
lots of people change, but I have seen the effort that has

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been made on her part to not only be contrite over her
actions, but to. See.
Exactly where her faults lied. Like what?
Her issues were and address themand be embarrassed embarrassed
by her I from watching. Her so closely I have.

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I feel like I have a very strongunderstanding of how she really
internalized her cancellation and I'm nothing but proud of
her. She is cancellation goals.
Like I've said before, if you are going to be cancelled, be
cancelled like Stassi, be cancelled like Stassi,
disappear, go into hiding and take like look at exactly what

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brought you to this moment and simmer on that shit.
Take years if you have to, but do not come back to the public
until you can address what has happened with just a full new
set of eyes. Contrition, no ego, no
self-defense. And that is what I've received

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from her and I am so proud. I am so proud of her because I
don't need people to be cancelled forever.
I don't need people to just likedie in the shadows.
What I need people to do is grow, be better.
She's, she just feels like a different person now, guys, and
that's all I can say. I'm proud of the bitch.

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I'm proud of her and she better not disappoint me because I'm
watching you. Bitch.
That's how I feel. Don't disappoint me 'cause I'm
watching you. But otherwise, I also think her
children have a big part to playin this because like I hear her
talk about her kids every week on The Good the Bad, the Baby,
the Patreon she has with her husband and.

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She just wants to be a good. Example she just wants to raise
like decent humans like you can.You can feel it like, I don't
know something about these whitewomen becoming moms and it has
made them more palatable. I don't know.

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I don't know what it is. I don't know what the hormones
are. But like something about those
little lives they look at and they're like, oh shit.
You can't be a shitty person because of me.
I got. To get my shit together and it's
been working. Maybe the same happens for
Kristen. But we shall see.
All right, I think that is it for this episode.

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