CB-Musings Episode 101: T'Challa Forever

Going back to the beginning 

Of the MCU!

What an epic world building movie we are on

Movie #18  = Black Panther(2018)
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Episode Transcript

Microphone (USB Audio CO (00:09):
What's up my savvy geeks, mark savvy
here.
So happy to be back.
I was away for a couple ofweeks.
You took a little bit of a breakbecause I went on vacation in
Japan.
I went to Kyoto.
Osaka and Tokyo.
What an experience.
It was such a fun trip.
I don't want to go too into it.
I'll do another episode where Idive into more of my experience

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there, but for now, I just wantto give an explanation about
where I was and let's get intothe next movie on our list.
Black Panther.
For me, what stood out the mostabout black Panther was it's
world-building the way theyestablished Wakanda, the way
they established the history ofvibranium and what the black

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Panther has meant, has meant totheir society over the centuries
was just so sick.
And I think the music alsoplayed a big part in.
Immersing us into this world.
It feels like you who don'tremember Kendrick Lamar produced
the soundtrack for the blackPanther and he did an excellent
job.
It was just an incredible listof tracks that were specifically

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designed for this film andspecifically designed to.
Kind of aid in that world,building that I mentioned.
I always said gardens of thegalaxy was my favorite
soundtrack in the MCU.
But those were all popularclassic rock songs that had just
locked.
This has to be the bestsoundtrack in the MCU, because
it was specifically created andcultivated designed for this

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film and the world building ofWakanda.
So it makes it especiallyspecial.
That's not tongue twister.
On top of the music, it was thecostumes, the way they presented
Wakanda.
The kind of the way they.
The way they portrayed.
Respect in their culture andthat whole history, it was just
so cool.

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It was so powerful to wow.
I always wondered, should theyhave recast it Chadwick Boseman
I don't know what the rightanswers.
As a fan.
I want to say, I wish theyrecast it Chadwick Boseman,
because I think the challah is areally cool character and I
would have liked to see himcontinue.
However, I acknowledge thatit's, it's not my place to say

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what the right thing is to dohere because it's more than a
movie to a lot of people.
And their decision was to notrecast him.
And I don't think that was thedecision of Kevin FYGI or the
Marvel heads.
I think it was.
More the decision of RyanCoogler and speaking with the
family, they wanted to honorChadwick.
They wanted to give him afuneral in a, in a sendoff in

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the next film.
Which I totally respect.
It's cool.
If you ask me though.
I wish.
If you weren't going to recastthem.
I honestly wish.
Uh, Killmonger didn't die.
I wish he had a redemption arcand he took on the mantle and
honored his people.
Like maybe he was in prison andthen he broke out and, and went

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through this whole redemptionarc.
I don't know.
But in the comics, I'm prettysure.
He has a redemption and heactually becomes a black Panther
and a good one.
So there was a path to that, butI guess they decided to keep him
dead but if we're talking abouthighlights of this film, and
aside from the culture that Imentioned, Killmonger is top.
Level villain.
He was so bad ass like, oh man.

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Dude.
I want to swear more, but I'mtrying to give this PG.
He killed it.
No pun intended Killmonger.
When he like took off the shirtand you saw all those marks on
him from all the people hekilled.
I was so APIC.
And when he decided to pull thesword out, so he would die in
the end.
So I guess obviously he's not,he died, but I don't know.
You still could have saved them,maybe.

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But that scene at the end, whenyou.
Remove the sword.
Cause he didn't want to, hedidn't want to be imprisoned.
I was sick.
I was such an epic line.
,Kroll who has portrayed by Andycircus.
For those of you who don't know,Andy circus is I would argue
most well known for.
Uh, playing Gollum, but he alsodid.
Um, Uh, the planet, the apesCaesar.

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So he's done a lot of likereally famous.
Characters that you never sawhis face.
Cause he wore the motion suit.
But now in this film and also inthe Batman, you see his like
acting chops.
He also is the director ofvenom, which is okay.
But in this film, he actedreally well.
Like the villains were verystrong in this movie.
Very strong.

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All of it was led by, in myopinion, the best performance of
the film though, was Chadwick.
Boseman is the black Pantherkinked challah.
He was.
An amazing king.
I think if.
If all was said and done intoCharla, stayed in the MCU, he
should have been a leader of theAvengers.
He could have bankrolled,everybody.
He could have had set up areally cool, like.

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I could see you probablywouldn't want to set up.
One more concept, but maybe hewould have.
Uh, visited the Avengerscompound more.
He would have been more involvedin everything.
He's he's like a perfectcharacter.
He he's made to be a king theway he speaks to his people.
His.
Uh, how humble he is just soawesome.
The first time I watched it, Iwas able to watch it on my
birthday, which is February 16.

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That's when it came out and itcame out about, let me do the
math six years ago.
So it came out February 16th,2018.
I remember seeing it.
And it was just.
The best birthday ever.
My wife, my girlfriend at thetime got me these Ottawa
senators pajamas.
I'm a huge auto centers fan.
And then we went and saw themovie.
I wasn't wearing the pajamaspeople.

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What makes people go to thetheaters because pre pandemic,
post pandemic, I don't think itreally matters.
You got to give people a reasonto go to the movies.
They're not going to go.
I'm sorry.
Like they're not going to go seehorizon.
That's not a movie.
A lot of people will see.
So those movies have to have alower budget.
This movie had a budget of$200million.

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So if you're going to commit toa budget like that, you gotta be
pretty confident that it's goingto do well.
When you see this film, do youthink it did well?
I'm curious listeners, let meknow in the comments I want to
say, I think the black Pantherhad some of my birthday magic
going for it.
Birthday magic.
Cause on a budget of 200million, this film crushed it.
I made 1 billion,$350 million.

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On a$200 million budget.
So yeah, I made over a billiondollar profit.
Sick.
I'm not surprised this film wassuch a big deal when it came
out.
I don't know if people.
We're hyping it up before itcame out or maybe afterwards
when people saw it at word ofmouth spread and starts to do
really well.
I don't know, it came out sixyears ago.
I don't remember.

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I want to do something a littledifferent with this one, though.
Usually I have the rankingsupdated before.
But right now, I'm actuallygoing to read the rankings.
And say if I think blackPanther's better than that film.
So in 17 at 17, we had iron manthrough his black Panther.
Better.
Yes.
16, is it better than darkworld?

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Yes.
15 is Ironman two.
Better than that one 14 ant man,better than that one.
13 Thor.
Yeah.
I think some people woulddisagree, but I think it's
better than Thor.
12, the Hulk definitely betterthan the Hawk.
11 in the first Spider-Man.
Yep.
It's been in that one.
Now we're getting into the top10.
So at 10th place as guardians ofthe galaxy volume two.

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So the question is.
Is black Panther.
Better than guardians of thegalaxy volume two.
I'm going to say yes by Panthermakes the top 10.
Now we go to Ironman.
This is tough.
I really loved iron man.
I'm going to say.
Black Panther stays at number 10does not pass iron man.
I just really love that film.

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So epic.
So that means our top 10 as itstands right now is black
Panther a number 10.
Ironman nine number eight, ageof Ultron.
Number seven, Dr.
Strange number six.
Captain America.
Number five gardens of thegalaxy volume one.
Number four, Avengers, numberthree, winter soldier, number

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two, Ragnar rock and holdingdown.
Number one.
And our rankings is civil war.
We are almost at the end ofphase three, which has proven to
be the best.
Phase in the MCU.
I'm looking up at the upcomingphases and yeah, it's definitely
gonna be the best phase.
So far, at least.

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Up next though.
It was a movie that might.
Hit number one next.
I love infinity war.
Oh, I just give away the title.
Avengers, infinity war is comingup next week in our MCU rewatch.
Oh, what a phase.
I'm your host, mark savvy.
So happy to be back.
Thank you for listening tune innext week.