January 29, 2025 • 68 mins
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Paranormal enthusiasts, brace yourselves for spine-tingling tales and unexpected laughter as Rez from the Cryptids, Anomalies, and Paranormal Society (CAPS) joins us. Get ready to unravel the mysteries of cryptids and uncover the truth behind paranormal phenomena with Rez's intriguing insights, all punctuated by a healthy dose of humor. From Bigfoot and UFO sightings to the mischievous afterlife antics, our conversation with Rez offers a delightful blend of the eerie and the entertaining, ensuring an episode that will both chill and amuse.
We quench our thirst for the supernatural with a side of personal anecdotes, sharing our eclectic drinking preferences, and celebrating a growing international fan base in France and Japan. As we explore the haunting yet humorous aspects of paranormal investigations, we invite listeners to connect with us on social media and explore our quirky merchandise. Expect playful interactions and a candid reflection on the balance between belief and skepticism that defines our approach to the paranormal, all wrapped up in regional humor and camaraderie.
Join us for an exploration of Native American reservations that may house a heightened presence of cryptids and ghosts, thanks to their spiritual connections with nature. We ponder cultural implications and share personal encounters, adding depth to the mystery. Our "This or That" segment with Rez offers lighthearted hypotheticals, and we wrap up with plans for future merriment, inviting you to partake in our playful pranks and paranormal ponderings. Whether you're a seasoned skeptic or a curious believer, there's something for everyone in this supernatural escapade.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:27):
What's going on?
This is Scalarius, I am JohnOlson and with me, as always, is
DW, the diseased waterfowlserene.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
What you sturdy duck you.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, diseased.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm sure people love that so I am drinking because I
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I found it best just not to embellish on whatever you
but you actually acknowledgethat one, so I I'm going to call
it a win.
Yeah, okay All right.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So today is the Mountain Dew, the hard Mountain
Dew, baja Blast, nice, and I'mpretty sure I've had this flavor
before.
I think I can't remember yeahyou have.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
We're not going to talk about the other stuff that
you drink.
Not quite yet.
We're going to wait for alittle while to discuss the
other stuff that you drink.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And there's reasons why.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But yeah, we're going to wait for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
The thing is I usually get a variety pack, and
I don't think I so I've donethis so many times.
I now have a variety pack ofMountain Dew, of one brand of
hard cider, another brand ofhard cider, of Mountain Dew of
one brand of hard cider, anotherbrand of hard cider.
I still have some.
What is it Not your father'sroot beer, or whatever?
So I've got basically I don't.
(02:54):
I drink once a week on Mondays,pretty much, so I don't go
through it very quickly, but Ido have a big variety now of of
various drinks so I like I liketo mix it up and not do hard
cider every week.
Today we got um mountain dew, soso is mrs serene uh, okay, so
(03:16):
she nervous at all.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
She's like man you're .
The fridge is getting full withall this uh funky alcohol, so
what no?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
she does.
I mean, I drink so infrequentlythat if I do have anything at
all, like even a glass of wine,she's like is everything all
right?
Do you have a bad day at work,or something like.
So she thinks it's weird andshe I, I've had to start
drinking on my own because shehas stopped.
She stopped when, um, she waspregnant with our daughter.
(03:51):
After she was born, she was soworried that, uh, having a drink
would put her in such a deepsleep that she wouldn't hear the
baby crying.
So she didn't even drink afterour daughter was born and she
just never got back into thehabit of it and so she's had.
(04:14):
I think the last thing she hadwas, um, at Christmas time
someone made a hard uh applecider.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Um not.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Not like a hard cider from the, the orchard type of
thing, like someone made a hard,uh, apple cider, um, not not
like a hard cider from the, theorchard type of thing, like
someone made a hot, a hot hardcider and she tried a bit of
that, um.
But other than that she has notbeen drinking a lot in the last
10 years and you know she justshe just doesn't miss it, so you
(04:44):
know she'll be.
I am usually driving us, I'lldrive her somewhere and she
still has no interest indrinking.
So but whatever you know that's,that's fine.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So and you don't drink anywhere other than home.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I mean, I I know it's very rarely unless very rarely,
well, because hotel gig orsomething.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Then you might have a couple, but and again it's.
It's very rarely, very rarely.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Well, because hotel gig or something, then you might
have a couple, but and againit's, it's partly because I
don't want to drink and drive,and usually I'm the one driving
my place myself places so Ican't have anything then.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So yeah it's my responsibility of you, dubs.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I know that that's something you should look into.
Yeah, just responsibility.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So I don't know, I, I , that's what I've heard, and
this, yeah, that's what I'veheard.
So, hey, uh, there's a lot ofreally cool things happening in
the world of scolarius, and Ifeel that we should discuss at
least a couple of them numberone um.
We have two new countries,france and japan.
(05:52):
So I'm going to take this timeto say domo arigato um you know,
yeah, yeah konnichiwa,konnichiwa as well, but Domo
Arigato obviously means thankyou.
In a way, you are very whateverit may be, I don't know, but it
(06:16):
worked for Mr Roboto, so we'regoing to say it like that.
Like I said, france I don'tknow how much they're going to
listen, especially if they goback into our backlogs.
They might hear a couple things, including an apology letter
(06:36):
for me to the French people,which might give them a laugh or
two, which would be fine.
But yeah, so france, uh parisspecifically, and japan, are now
uh listeners of scolarius,which was pretty badass.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I, I might, I might add and if anyone from not not
just these countries, butanywhere outside the u S?
Canada and can't, or or Canada,if you're listening.
We want to know how this cameabout.
Like, are you an Englishspeaking person in that country?
(07:16):
Like, did you originate fromthe U?
S and you move there?
Are you there for work?
Are you there temporarily, doyou?
Do you have someone translatingthis?
We're we're baffled.
We don't know what it is and Iwould love to find out what the
deal is we just want you to.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
we want you to reach out.
See, reach out, baby.
Reach out to us, say hey, dw.
And reach out to us, baby, sayhere's the thing.
We want you to hold out yourhand and say listen, listen, we
(07:54):
want to know, we want to knowwhat it is that you, how you
listen to us, you know theAmerican dream, you know that's
the rules, baby, that's right.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So was that your Eddie Murphy or SpongeBob?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Eddie Murphy would be way better.
Listen, listen, listen.
This is more like Eddie Murphyright here.
Listen up.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
No, it's not.
It's just as much, eddie.
No.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
See Eddie Murphy would be like.
And tomorrow morning we'rehaving waffles.
See that, that's more EddieMurphy.
So okay, anyways, we want youto reach out and let us know and
do that.
You can do that by well, maybeyou should.
Possibly, if you want to, youcan reach out to DW, DW Serene
(08:46):
Comedian on Facebook.
You can find me at John OlsonComedian 2.0 on Facebook.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
You can find us both together on.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Facebook.
We're not a couple.
No, we're not a couple.
You can find us right there onthe Scolari's page on Facebook.
We do still, surprisinglyenough, have a tick tock page.
I don't know how much we'regoing to use it, though, but we
do have it.
I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
We have it for now.
We don't know what will happentomorrow.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
We don't know how long it's going to be around.
Yeah, but you know Instagram is, you know we are scolarius
there and you know, if you wantto listen to every single
episode that we've ever done,you can do that at
scolariaspodbuzzsproutcom.
And there's more stuff, there'smore stuff and this is the cool
(09:36):
stuff.
I am excited about this stuffright here.
If you go to crowdmade slashcollections, slash ScolariusPod,
and you know what you're goingto find, do you know?
Do you know what you're goingto find?
Dw?
I know, yes.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're going to find.
Well, here, I'm not going to beable to remember all of them,
but you'll be able to be able tofind Scolarius, but you'll be
able to find Scleria's shirts.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
We have coffee mugs, we have Hellhound's dog collars.
Yep.
And I'm sure there's more, butwe also have I believe you put
that one up on the website, theone that you showed me recently.
Yep, we now have a quote thatapparently I say um and and
(10:33):
scolarius 316, which I don'tknow what you're supposed to,
scolari.
How is that?
I?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I don't know, I don't know what scolarius 316 is
supposed to mean.
Back in good old 1996, therewas a pretty famous professional
wrestler who once said Austin316 says I just whooped your ass
and I thought that maybe youknow, we should say Scalarius
316, we just entertained yourass.
(11:01):
So that's what Scalarius 316 is.
Is that Scalarius 316, we justentertained your ass.
So that's what scolarius 316 is.
Is that scolarius 316?
We just entertained your ass.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So if you want a shirt that's going to make
people say what does that mean?
Or who is dw?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
yep, then we have shirts yeah, and they're,
they're not expensive, likeeverything's under 30 bucks.
So, um, I will say this uh, wedo have scolarius ghosters, not
coasters ghosters, uh, which ispretty awesome.
Like you said, we have thehere's the thing, uh, dw.
(11:38):
Serene t-shirt.
Also the here's the thing dw.
Serene.
Scalarius 316 t-shirt andhoodie the Scalarius logo.
Beanie the real logo.
We also had the alternative,but one of the coolest things is
not only can you find a leashfor your hellhounds, a collar
(12:00):
for your hellhounds, but you canalso get the scolarius
hellhounds pet bowl.
That's right, yep, it's just.
Basically it's a bowl that saysthe hellhounds.
People will know, you will know, and it'll be a lot of fun.
So, like I said, just go tocrowdmadecom, forward slash
(12:24):
collections, forward slashscolarius pod, and you can order
up all of that stuff or if yougo to crowd made and just search
for a scolarius, you should beable to find it.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So yeah, I suppose you could do that too, yeah, so
I think I think we should startnow, while his dog is licking
his face that this would havebeen the perfect time to start
that was just to catch him offguard, like here he is like oh
crap well, you know, that's thefunniest thing.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I know this is audio only, but we can see what's
going on.
You guys, uh, and, and that wasa a perfect, perfect, uh, I
guess, segue in a way to um, ourguest this evening.
Uh, he is part of caps inappleton, wisconsin, which, but,
but they go all over, they goall over wisconsin and cap
(13:19):
starts for, starts for no, itstands for, uh, cryptids,
anomalies and paranormal society, and this is rez from caps, rez
.
How's it going tonight?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
oh yeah, thank you for bringing me aboard tonight.
I'd like to say thank you tothe american Dream people.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, that's right baby.
The American Dream here.
The American Dream is runningthis show tonight.
That's right.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Oh yeah, see the American Dream.
He knows what he's doing behindthat keyboard there.
He's going to teach you a thingor two about this podcasting
world, thanks.
How are we all doing tonight?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So, first off, who was the pooch that we saw sneak
onto your camera there?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
That's my little hellhound.
That's Robbie.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Seems like a sweet little pup.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Can be until you make him upset and you know he's all
90 pounds of pit bull yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
All right, I see how that could work.
So, all right, Rez, you got adish man.
We kind of connected.
We connected way back we'regoing to talk about this a
little bit we connected way backat Pararock, the Annex yeah,
(14:49):
Pretty cool little shindig.
I wish it would have done a lotbetter than what it did.
I feel it had more potentialthan anything.
I mean it was amazing.
A lot of people, really coolpeople there.
A lot of people, really coolpeople there.
It kind of I was very upset bythe lack of people that showed
(15:12):
up Because I feel they wouldhave.
They really would have really,really enjoyed that, that
Paracon.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
But you know, we kind of you know, we talked there
and said, hey, you know we dothis podcast and you're like,
yeah, we could do something.
And there's been a few thingsthat have happened over the last
what six or eight months but wefinally got together.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yep, it takes time.
You know we're always on theroad doing something,
investigating or doing Paracons,plus having a family.
You know it's kind of hard toget nailed down to one spot for
an hour or two.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Ah well, I mean, I wish we could say the same, but
I, you know, we, I mean, yeah,we go everywhere and do this,
things and everything else, butwe always have uh, we always
have our recording time.
We carve that stuff outSometimes, you know, there have
(16:11):
been moments where we can't getit done, but we always end up
getting an episode or two out,right Dubs.
Yep.
Yeah, yeah, we always do that,all right, so tell us about it.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
I want to say something to Dubs over here.
You got one kid, only one kid,right?
Yes?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I'm taking it.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Have some more, she'll start drinking again,
trust me.
Okay, I have four biologicalchildren altogether.
I got seven with the wife,along with grandchildren and
everything else.
Believe me, pop a few more ofthem out, she'll start drinking.
She won't care if she sleepsthrough the night, it'll be all
right at that point you careabout anything.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean honestly not really you.
Just as the time goes by, justminute by minute, yep, that's
day by by day.
That's that's how it goes.
So tell us a little bit about,about caps either.
There's a good.
You know you said cryptids inthere and immediately my yeah,
(17:16):
you got my attention.
So tell us about caps.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
You know when you guys were established, who's all
in the group and uh, I mean,yeah, well, start with that
barnaby jones is leadinvestigator and founder of caps
um five years ago.
We just celebrated this summerfifth year anniversary of caps.
I've been part of the team alittle over three years now.
(17:42):
Um, I am pretty much aninvestigator, a psychic medium.
I'm more of an investigatorfirst.
That's why, if you ever watchany of our shows, underneath my
title says investigator.
But I also use my abilitiesalso during my investigations to
figure things out.
We have two full-time mediums,stephanie Lynn and Ellie
Weisenhall.
We have two full-time mediums,stephanie Lynn and Ellie
(18:04):
Weisenhall.
Then we have a handful ofinvestigators that are part of
the team.
We have Ma, who's Barnaby'smother.
We have Derek, who also is amedium, let's see.
We have Ethan's, our skeptic,which you got to have one of
them because everyone's got tolearn to debunk things and look
at all sides of the coin, notjust go in with the one side,
(18:28):
otherwise everything's haunted.
So you know there's a couple ofmembers out there, you know.
So we're a closely knit group.
We put on documentaries onYouTube all the time and
definitely have our own shows.
You can find us right onYouTube Wisconsin Caps if you
put that in.
Or you can go us right onyoutube, wisconsin caps, if you
(18:50):
put that in or you can go to thewebsite, wisconsincapscom.
Um, I've joined the team firesto be working with the
paranormal being native american.
Um, I never really put muchinto cryptids right away and
when I joined the team like, hey, you want, want to go look for
Bigfoot and I go a day in thewoods?
Sure, why not?
I love being in the woods, asyou can tell by my backdrop.
(19:14):
That's where I'm at peace.
So I went out there andBarnaby's showing me all these
different things here and thereabout what to watch for, for
signs of Sasquatch or Bigfoot,and I go hmm, I've been seeing
these on my reservation foryears, never put two and two
together.
So that kind of opened it upfor me.
(19:35):
Okay, let's take a look at this.
Because when I was growing up,you know, yeah, we had the
legends and the lores talkingabout Bigfoot with the natives,
but the only evidence we everhad was the, the patty film, and
that was like to me.
That wasn't enough for me to go.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Let's go looking for it you're talking about the
patterson gimley, right?
Yeah, um.
So I'm sorry, I don't mean tointerrupt you, but I have to go
ahead and ask you this Where'syour reservation?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
at Bowler Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Okay, and where's?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
the Central Stockton, Virginia reservation.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Okay, is that Central or is that more West?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Northwoods.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh okay, way up there .
Like kind of by UP up in there.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
About an hour away from the UP.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
You know, right off Highway 29.
There, uh, about an hour awayfrom the up, okay, you know,
right off highway 29.
Those that don't know thereservation, a lot of them know
the casino.
We have north star casino rightoff of highway 29.
We're right in between greenbay and wausau okay, very, very
cool.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
So you said that you seen the bigfoot on your
reservation.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I've seen signs of them.
I haven't actually seen bigfootthemselves.
Um, I've seen tree stuffings,axes, things like that that they
say are you know signs of wherethey've come through?
Trees bent completely over,pointing in one direction,
things like that.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Okay, so I don't want to be this guy, like you know,
Mr Skeptic here, but I'm justgoing to say, like could that be
wind and things like that?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yep, Now there's a lot of times it can be wind and
straight straight wind storms,stuff like that.
But when you have some of thestuff where the branches are
interwoven with each other, ittakes thumbs to do that.
It just doesn't fall naturallythat way.
So it's things to look for.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Wow.
So what makes you think thatthat's Bigfoot and not just
someone who's in the woods,bored and made a structure out
of sticks?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
um public lands.
I could say, yeah, it could besomeone being bored making a
structure, um, but you look,gotta look at it.
Um, being up here on areservation out in the depths of
the woods.
The only people that go outthere are hunters or those that
are working in the woods.
They're not going to sit thereand play tiddlywinks and build
structures you know, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
So since we're on the cryptids, we might as well stay
on there for just a little bit,right?
Oh, I, I know that you know,you know me and the doves.
We live in the great state ofMinnesota and I mean I say that,
sure, great.
Anyway, we live in the state.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
I always had a good time out there.
I've been out there for a fewconventions and a couple of
fundraisers.
It's a good state, come on.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's an okay state, moving on All state, come on,
it's an okay state.
Moving on All right, come on,all right.
You obviously are neighbor tothe east and Minnesotans usually
have a little problem withWisconsin.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I'm a Wisconsin transplant.
I wasn't born and raised here.
Where?
Were you born?
I'm a Chicagoan.
I'm born down in Oregon.
Oh okay, so I'm a fib.
Can'm born down in the Florida,so I'm a fib.
Can't help it but go Bears okay, I got you.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I'm also.
That's what I was going to say.
I don't have that, I guess,dislike or whatever for
Wisconsin because I'm from Iowa,even though Wisconsin don't
like the Iowans just about asmuch as they don't like the
Minnesotans.
I'm just saying it doesn't goboth ways, like I really don't
(23:31):
mind Wisconsin whatsoever.
I feel Iowa is like Wisconsinlight.
You guys are the Miller andwe're the Miller light.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You understand, that's kind of how that worked.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Miller Lite.
You understand that's how thatworked.
Yeah, so that's kind of Anyway.
So what other cryptids are inthe great state of Wisconsin?
Oh, you're back.
We've been here.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
You froze up on me.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Oh, okay, I get you.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
So I hear a word you just said, but okay, whatever
you say.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll just.
It's okay, I could go throughthat whole diatribe again,
that's fine.
So what cryptids other thanBigfoot are in the great state
of Wisconsin?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Dogmen.
So werewolf.
Some consider him a werewolf,some consider him, you know,
literally a dogman.
I kind of have a theory thatmaybe he is a skinwalker or a
medicine man that's turned evil,that's been able to shapeshift
and has done so much time onthat side of the coin that he's
(24:44):
not able to shape back intohuman form so consistently dog
not, yeah, okay, so nottransforming at night, yeah this
is the creature okay, um, I'vesaid this numerous times on this
podcast and I'll say it againif there is one creature, one
quote-unquote monster thatscares the living hell out of me
(25:06):
, it's a werewolf.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And because of the fact of the dog man or skin
walker or things like that,where people have said that
these things exist, like draculaokay, we've heard of vampires,
but they're not like that.
Uh, the mummy okay, mummies doexist, but they're not out
walking around you know, right,you know, whatever the creature
of the black lagoon yeah no,because if there was one down
(25:31):
there, the gators would have gotit a long time ago.
So I know that's not a thing.
So that's what it's likewerewolf, wolfman, whatever.
If you want to say believable,it's the most believable out of
any of the I guess quote-unquotemonsters that they portray yeah
, I can go with that.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
You know, I'd love to get face to face with any one
of them, though you know I Ithink that would be a good time
to build, actually document it Idon't think you're gonna be
writing anything down duringthat point.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I I just I, that's who who writes anymore.
It's all video, buddy oh yeah,that's true, I know and audio.
I can see DW trying to writeHold on, hold on hold on, take
notes here.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Hold on, don't attack .
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Stop your attacking.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
That's my leg.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
That's my leg Come on , I need that to run.
And then I stop and say okay,here's the thing, right,
apparently, because I guess Isay that it's all right's, it's
the perfect, perfect thing.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
um, and, by the way, if you want to uh have the
here's the thing t-shirt, youcan find that at crowdmadecom,
uh, just I'll wait for you tosend me one of the uh beanies oh
okay.
Well, yeah, we can, we couldprobably, uh, we could probably
afford that.
That that might be in thismonth's budget.
We can see if we can figure itout Budget Exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I'll send you one of my old sweaty cap shirts Just a
fair trade.
Okay, maybe it might havesleeves, it might not.
Some of my additions aresleeveless.
I'm a big guy.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
No, I hear you.
As long as it's been washed,that's all I care about.
So, yes, it's all cool.
Uh, so all right, you have dogman, you have Bigfoot.
Have you guys investigatedanything that's involved?
Speaker 5 (27:30):
uh, sightings of either or oh yeah, we have
people that go on our websiteand report encounters and
everything else all the time,and when we do get that
information we go through and alot of times we'll go out and
investigate it.
You know we're there to helpthose in the community that
reach out to us.
So it doesn't matter if youhave a cryptid sighting or if
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you have an issue with aparanormal in your home or at
your work.
We'll come out and check it outfree of charge.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Very nice and you go all over the state of Wisconsin
or you go further.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
We go all over period .
And we also do.
We're in the process of settingup an affiliate program with
those that we trust their workand credibility.
We trust their work andcredibility.
So if we're not in that area orcan't get to that area, we can
put you in contact with someonethat's reputable and trustworthy
to come out and help you.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Very cool, that's awesome.
So we were into the cryptidspart of it, and then the other
part is anomalies.
So, anomalies, are you talkinglike UFOs?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
UFOs like the Paulding Lights and anything
that can be considered part ofthe paranormal world that isn't
a ghost or isn't already definedin one of the main sections.
So if you are out in the fieldand you're seeing orbs across
your field all the time and youwant someone to come out and
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check it out, that's where, tome, the anomalies come in.
You know, document that to lookat what's going on there and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Very cool.
Have you ever seen an anomalyor I'm gonna even say ufo, over
there, uh, over there, by lakemichigan there?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
uh, no, ufos, I know several years ago here in
reservation.
You look out my bathroom windowat night and you can almost see
a glow that's going through thefield there, and that was back
when my kids were just kneehighs.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Haven't seen it recently, you know, but that was
one of the things that I didwitness up here um, is it fair
to say, uh, that native Americanreservations tend to have a
higher rate of paranormalactivity than most places?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Well, that's kind of a double edged sword there.
Actually, if you actually thinkabout it, this entire continent
is a Native Americanreservation.
We were here first.
So every ancient land we werealready on and chances are one
of the ancestors have been thereor been buried there already.
So you can't just sayreservations, but what you're
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getting, what kind of whatyou're getting at, would be
we're more open to it andacknowledge it.
We're more.
A lot of us are more in tunewith it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So it seems like there's more, but really it's no
different than anywhere else Iwill admit this um, I seen what
I thought and I said and Itestified essentially not to a
criminal judge or anything.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Testify, brother testify.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I was driving back from seeing a female friend I
had back when I was living inIowa Chicken, and so I'm living
in Iowa Chicken.
And so I'm leaving that out butanyway.
So I would drive up.
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She lived in Nebraska.
I would drive up and hit SiouxCity, you know, from the
Nebraska side, which is easybecause they're all kind of
connected in a way.
But the road I took was Highway77, which ran through both,
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well, the Winnebago and the WallHill reservations.
There, which is Ho-Chunk, whichthey also have another part in,
I think, near Tomah, wisconsin,somewhere around there, right.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
They're right up here in Wittenberg also.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yep, okay, so the Winnebago Ho-Chunk Indian
Reservation is right there on 77.
And I'm driving and all of asudden this thing it was big, it
was hairy, shut up and it waslike it was not a man and it
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looked like a freaking werewolfand it like kind of walked out
all big gate walked, startedwalking towards the road and
then immediately like pivotedand kind of ran parallel for a
second and then into the woodsand I, I, I mean it took me a
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minute to register what the helljust happened.
But then, as soon as I did, Islammed on the brakes, I stopped
and I was like what, and I waskind of looking in my rear on
the brakes, I stopped and I waslike what, and I was kind of
looking in my rear view mirrorand everything and I was like
what in the world was that?
And it came to my senses like,okay, if that was what I thought
it was, I'm not being parkedright here is probably not the
smartest thing to do.
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And then I just continued on.
Um, but yeah, I, that was that'swhat really got me.
I was like, okay, if there wasa dog man, if there was a
werewolf, if there wasn'tanything on those Indian
reservations is where I feelthey would.
They would be right, becauseshapeshifters, uh, you know,
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medicine men, um, um you weretalking about like ancestors and
elders and things like that.
It just I don't know.
It just made me think that andI felt that maybe all that
activity in those areas, um,there was a special reason for
it.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
It's kind of where I was going with it well, one
thing you got to remember whenit comes to tribal lands,
they're federally protected, soyou don't have any hunters out
there other than tribal members.
It's not.
The woods aren't being trampledthrough by every Tom, dick and
Harry.
So you know, we respect ourwoods.
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There's a lot of chunks of thewoods that you don't go into
unless you actually have to.
You kind of just leave it alonebecause it's nature.
So they would have plenty ofplaces to thrive and to hide and
to grow, you know.
So that's why you might see alittle bit more of that around
the reservations and thesurrounding communities also.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Uh, yeah, and then most of thetime they are the wildlife and
everything else is protected inin those too.
So, um, if it was an animal, ithad plenty of food source, and
if it was a monster or, you know, a cryptid or anything like
that, then it also has plenty offood source.
So I can see why everyonethrive definitely, I know.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I actually over the weekend I heard about town azor,
that's a couple miles up theroad from here, up on the
monomony reservation, agentleman goes out in the woods
all the time and and he's gotsupposedly has pictures of
Sasquatch within 30, 40 feet ofeach other.
He's an older guy, he's sick,he's not doing the greatest in
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health, but he goes out to thewoods almost every day and he
has these interactions with themand you know that's 15 minutes
up the road from here.
So they are around.
It's just who they choose tointeract with and being at the
right place at the right time.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
So why do you think that, like I would assume, they
have an animal instinct, right,so they're going to?
If you know somebody who's meekand mild DW was in the woods,
they're going to interact inprobably kind of a
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non-aggressive type of way,right, because they wouldn't
feel like they were threatened.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
That and I think they can basically read us, feel our
hearts, what we have in ourheart.
If we come with love and withpureness and good intentions,
that you're more apt to have theinteraction.
You come out there dressed likea hunter, loaded to the gills
with freaking weapons andeverything else they're going to
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see as a threat and they'realso going to feel that in you
because you are loaded forfiring, you are loaded for
taking something out that in youbecause you are loaded for
firing, you are loaded fortaking something out, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
So what do you think?
The percentage of claims ofbigfoot dogmen, things like that
, with the cryptids and theanomalies?
What do you think of thepercentage um are legitimately
seeing what they think they'reseeing, or maybe something else?
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Honestly, I've never really thought about the
percentage.
You know everyone that believesthat they've seen something.
It's like saying you knowyou've seen Jennifer Anderson,
but yet DW, don't believe it.
You can be like man.
I've seen her walk into themall today.
I couldn't believe it.
He's like, yeah, man, I seenher walking in the mall today.
I couldn't believe it.
He's like, yeah, bs, you'refull of crap.
You know what the hell is sheto be doing out here.
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It's kind of one of them things, but in your mind you believe
it.
You know it's true.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
In his mind it's like he's a joke, unless he's seen
it Exactly.
And see, unless he's seen itexactly and see, I feel that's
that's the way it is with a lotof uh, a lot of people,
especially with the cryptids, isthat they're gonna immediately
like it's kind of weird.
Um, ghosts and things like that.
People are more uh in tune tobe like, okay, yeah, wow, man,
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you have a ghost in your house.
That's crazy, right, but you'relike, hey, dude, last week I
was out camping and I know for afact I seen bigfoot.
They're gonna come on right,yeah, so, but if they seen it,
it would experience themselves.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
It would open a whole new thing in their mind.
You know, I, I have friends ofmine, you you know, because of
what I do.
I have business cards andeverything else and they're like
, um, one of them has me listedas Ghostbuster in their phone.
You know, they're like yeah,you, whatever, you believe in,
dude, but I don't believe in theafterlife.
(38:30):
Well, that's your choice,that's your beliefs.
I'm not here to change yourbeliefs.
I'm here to to show the dataand the evidence that I've
experienced and captured overyears and share my stories of
what I've experienced.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So to each their own yeah, it is to each their own.
And we we started kind ofdabbling into the paranormal
part of that stuff, like theghosts and the ghoulies and
whatever.
So I figured I'd ask you aboutthe caps portion of the
paranormal stuff.
You know what's going on overin there, is it?
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You get a little bit ofeverything?
Is it most just residual stuffLike what do you have happen?
Speaker 5 (39:20):
It's literally a little bit of everything you
know.
As much as we get out in thedifferent locations that we've
gone to and we get to work with.
You know you do get some placesthat are residual.
It's just a constant loop ofenergy doing the same thing it
was doing the whole time it washere.
It's just you left that behind,because everywhere you go you
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leave a piece of your energybehind an imprint.
So someone sits there longenough doing the same thing day
in and day out.
That energy is still going tobe there and it's going to be on
that loop.
Where you get some of theintelligence stuff, they'll
start interacting with ourequipment.
They'll interact with ourmediums, even with myself.
You know I'll get tidbits ofinformation just shot in my
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brain out of nowhere that Idon't know where these answers
are coming from, but they seemto come out and end up being
correct oh, uh, do you?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I mean I'm sorry he's kind of he got me on that one.
You just, I sit there and Ithink you know people they don't
believe as much as you knowthey maybe should in certain
(40:38):
situations.
Right, I mean, they they justkind of dismiss it, as you know,
like dw always said uh, it'sthe heater banging or whatever
else, or it's you know this,that or the other thing.
Like people dismiss that stuff.
Um, I feel there are situationswhere there are things that are
happening, legit, and peoplejust try to dismiss it and I
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feel that it makes it worse andworse.
As a paranormal investigator,do you think this stuff
progresses if people ignore itmore?
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Depending on why it's what's going on.
If it is someone that's tryingto get a message to you and you
ain't listening to them, yeah, Ican definitely see it
progressing and getting worse tothe point where you have to pay
attention to it.
It's almost kind of like youknow your little brother poking
you over and over.
Am I annoying you?
(41:32):
Yet Are you paying attention tome?
Yet, are you paying attentionto me?
Yet you just want to turn andbackhand them.
Right, because one of themthings where you have to face
situation head on, where you getsome of the stuff that you know
, when you get to the darkerside of things, when you start
feeding into it and you feedyour fear into it, that darkness
kind of grows because it feedsoff of it.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
So it's that double-edged sword again so what
is your percentage and I'mgonna bring it up again, I know
it's gonna get you but what?
What do you think thepercentage of like I'm not gonna
say demonic, because it's not,you know, yeah, whatever um, bad
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versus good, what do you thinkthat is like decent energy, you
know just having a good time andversus like not good energy I'm
gonna hurt you.
Like what do you think that isin your personal experience?
Speaker 5 (42:29):
about 85 percent of the time it's good, positive
energy, but you do get thatsmall portion of the darkness
and negativity.
I will never say it's demonicunless I have full-out proof.
I have done a very little studyinto demonology and basically I
look at it like this they'regoing to try to scare you.
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They're going to use the D word, they're going to use Satan's
name and everything else to putthat fear into you.
But you got to remember whenyou die, the same personality
you have right now is going tobe the personality you have on
the other side.
So if you're a jerk or a realbutthole, then you're going to
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be the same thing on the otherside.
So if you're one of them, onesthat wants to hurt people or
wants to talk trash all the timethat's what you're going to do
when someone comes in and triesto communicate with you.
Or if you're that grumpy oldguy that you know I built that
nuke missile to blow them kidsaway, so I'm sick of listening
to them play ZZ Top you're stillgoing to be that same guy.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay so, dw, you're still going to be the same guy.
Okay so, dw, do you know thatyou're still going to be the
same guy when you die, as youare right now?
Speaker 4 (43:43):
You're the one who should be worried about that.
Why, I'll be fine, I mean he'smaking timid.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
He's going to be like little Casper floating around.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Well, I think I've, I've often how you doing after I
died.
That's when I'm gonna startsaying here's the thing just to
mess with john oh no I I'veoften joked over the world.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
You're gonna be here.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Here's the thing here's the thing I've often
joked with my wife that, um, Iwould like mess with her and
like put stuff up on the topshelf of the cupboard just so
she can't reach it, and justlike every time I can't get the
coffee cup, and you know.
So that that's.
That's the kind of stuff Iwould do.
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I wouldn't like scare people or, you know, push things off a
table.
I would, you know I'd have somefun with it, you know I
wouldn't have fun with it.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
I would be the angry ghost because somebody put the
coffee cups whatever too highand I couldn't get to it.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
That's what I would be, so I'd be I gotta take all
this energy to reach up thereand try to get the coffee cup.
You could have just left it onthe counter for me, you know,
then I could just scoot it overa little bit and had coffee.
See.
I would be that wisecrackingone that's, you know, pulling
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punches on the spirit box.
You know, oh, who said this I'dbe coming back.
Your mama, did your daddy tellyou that?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Have you seen Scary Movie?
You've seen.
Scary Movie right.
Oh yeah.
When he's like father.
Your mother's in here, mom getout.
You know, oh, come on, I wasjust having an.
Or your mother's in here, mom,get out.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Oh come on I was just having an orgy.
What the heck.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
I just remember that sketch from Saturday Night Live.
It was back in the AnniePoehler days.
One of them, farts, and theyspend the rest of the time
trying to figure out what thatwas like.
Did you hear it?
I got it on's.
Listen to it again.
They listen to it and yeah,that's a good one uh, that was a
good one just walking around,farting on everyone that's
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investigating I do.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
I do have a really a funny story about that um oh boy
, I was investigating and I wasletting off SBDs man, Like they
were, just they were not good.
And I remember one of theinvestigators was like what's
(46:28):
that smell?
You know, like what is that,Whatever?
And I started saying it's aphantom.
Smell, it's a phantom.
And then it just stuck with usand it became a running joke or
whatever else.
But yeah, it was.
Uh.
If anybody's listening that waswondering what the hell that
smell was, it was me the whole,the whole time it was finally
the truth comes out.
(46:49):
Yeah right probably 15 years,but yeah, it's me, it's me all
right.
So 15 years, but yeah, it's me,it's me all right.
So all right, we went throughthe cryptids, the anomalies and
the paranormal and we obviouslyknow what the society is.
It's all you guys together uhhelping people out.
Uh, who are the people on yourteam?
Again, name them off barnabyjones.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Stephanie lynn Jones, stephanie Lynn, ellie Wisenhall
.
Derek Tabo, I believe is hislast name.
I'm terrible at names here.
Let's see, here we have Barband Rick and then Ethan Ruby and
(47:34):
there's a couple more in there.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Holy moly, that's a big team.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Yep, you know, each one of us has our own talents
and skills, so we don't alwaysall work together Right.
Some of us, you know, getcalled in for the cryptic stuff,
some of us get called in theparanormal.
It all depends on whatspecifics they have.
So for all of us to be in onespot at one time since I've been
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a member of the team, I don'tthink it's happened yet.
It's just it's hard becauseeveryone schedules and everyone
what they do that absolutelymakes sense, which kind of like?
Speaker 3 (48:12):
you kind of answered my question for me, but I'm
going to ask it anyway.
So it's going to be kind of areverse.
I was going to say, like Iwould assume, with the team that
big, you have people that arespecialized in certain areas of
what you have.
So who I mean the Bigfoot, youknow, the Bigfoot expert, the
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cryptids expert, who what kindof experience do they have in in
that area, like especially upthere?
Speaker 5 (48:44):
barnaby, our team leader, is actually a
cryptozoologist.
Nice okay interesting.
So, yeah, he brings a wealth ofknowledge to the table, years of
study and you know.
And he also does the paranormal, also he does.
He goes both both ways there,you, you know, and I personally,
like I said in my stories, I'vegone, you know, both ways, with
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the woods or out into theparanormal field.
I won't investigate anything,so it just kind of trickles down
on who's available and whatwe're looking for, what we're
doing.
Who's going to get the phonecall and say, hey, are you busy?
Speaker 3 (49:24):
All right, doing who?
Who's going to get the phonecall and say, hey, you busy, all
right.
So I'm going to ask thequestion that my mind has wanted
to know for quite a whileduring this podcast, and it's
this what cryptid do you guysget the most?
I guess sightings of, uh,bigfoot sasquatch and the
follow-up to that, which I thinkis the best question of both.
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What is the weirdest cryptidcase that's been brought to caps
, meaning like something thatmaybe shouldn't even be there?
Speaker 5 (49:58):
you know, like I really don't think I've had one
one yet.
That shouldn't be there.
You know um a lot of the stuffthat we've gotten calls on or
we've gone out investigated umhave been known in the areas
that we've gone to okay, so likedog man sasquatch okay, beast
(50:19):
of Bray Road, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
That one is fascinating, dw, that's
something you should look up.
The Beast of Bray Road, youwill.
Yeah, I think you'll like that.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
Another dog man.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, pretty much.
So okay, Very cool, I was goingto say of your sightings, are
more of them say UFO, cryptid,whatever?
Speaker 5 (50:56):
are more of them towards the woods or towards the
lake.
A lot of the Bigfoot sightingsand all that are at woods or
road crossings.
Okay, people just having them.
We've had had hunters get ahold of us say, hey, you know, I
seen this out in my backyard orI seen this out in my hunting
land, stuff like that, um, ufos,uh, pretty much hit or miss.
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You know, there's really norhyme or reason on where people
see them and report them from.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
You see where I was going with that, though, if it
was more like other aircraft,airplanes, helicopters.
I'm not saying I don't believein UFOs, yeah, just saying
there's a lot more explanationthan just like oh For, for
instance, we get the uhminnesota state patrol
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helicopter that flies above usall the time.
It's legitimately, every nightseveral times, and the spotlight
sometimes will come out.
And when that spotlight comesout, it is legitimately a
spotlight.
It I mean from the area they'reat, which is like 150, 200 feet
in the air.
This thing, it shines bright onthe uh, on the ground, so
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sometimes they'll, they'll turnit on, you know, and all of a
sudden you're seeing this lightcoming from whatever you know.
Obviously I, I know that it'sthe helicopter, right, but go
ahead.
I was going to say like, I mean, how many of those have you
looked at?
You know cases or whatever?
Speaker 5 (52:34):
and been like that that has that UFO you know, call
, we bring out equipment youknow, to monitor air traffic
control.
We have star charts, you knoweverything to get to show us
what is in the skies at thatpresent moment, in real time.
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So then, as you see somethingin the sky, you look down, you
verify whether it's a plane,whether it's something on one of
these charts, and if it's not,then you start looking okay,
what is it?
At that point in time you goahead and you use the tools that
are available to you tobasically go through it and
(53:17):
figure out what it is.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
See, not everybody's going to have that stuff it's
right on their phones yeah, Iknow my uh, lovely queen consort
, she does have the star chartand she does the air traffic
control.
Um, I feel that'd be a good way, uh, to you know, take care of
the, the stuff that you know, totake care of the stuff that
(53:46):
isn't a UFO.
Or take care of the stuff thatis a UFO meaning you're going to
see it other than what you havethere.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Yep, and always be filming, document everything,
because you might be able to say, okay, well, I see this light,
I don't know what the heck it is.
If you're filming it and you'vegot a good camera, you can go
back later on your computer andsee if it seems different on the
footage versus what you seewith the naked eye, so you might
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be able to verify what it mighthave been at that point in time
also.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Yeah, I was going to say always take a picture so you
can enhance it, look at it,yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I was sitting therethinking you know the cryptids
we got into that.
That's something I've beenwanting to do for a while on
this show.
We're going to have to dolong-form cryptids, I think at
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some point.
Speaker 5 (54:43):
Get all the.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
Barnaby Jones, there's a lot of them and maybe
I will.
Maybe you know.
I think we're friends onFacebook.
Speaker 5 (54:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
So I might reach out to them.
Yeah, I mean, you guys seemlike you have.
Basically you're running thegambit on like if you were to
see a cryptid.
You know you're gonna call capsyou know, you know, and it
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seems like, uh, the people thatare into the, uh seeing the
paranormal, they're doing thesame thing.
So you guys get pretty busy.
Speaker 5 (55:22):
Huh, yeah, we do and, uh, we've worked hard to build
that reputation that'strustworthy in the uh,
paranormal and crypticcommunities.
We've done our research, so,and if we don't know, we'll do
our best to find you an answerone way or another.
You know, because we areconnected with people all across
the country and even some outof the country that are still
(55:45):
doing the same research we arenice and you see, like I mean,
when you're doing the research,you do the research, you're just
not, you're not bullshittingyour way through it no, you
actually go out into the fieldand you go there and you sit,
you film, you document everylittle thing you know.
It's not like, uh, we just showthem, go, we look around, go.
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Yeah, we don't see nothing.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
We're out of here, we're there, we're there for the
night the only way that'd bebeneficial is if you got paid,
you know unfortunately we don'tget paid.
Speaker 5 (56:20):
Yeah, it's all free services.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
You know there's at this time there's no money in
the paranormal uh which therewas well, but I feel, I don't
know, like I feel if you wereasking for money, people are
automatically going to assumecon man.
You know what I mean.
So the free service is the bestway of doing it, because in a
(56:45):
way, you're getting a name outthere, right, yeah, these people
sign off on you using their,their houses or their names or
whatever you know.
So they get a little bit ofnotoriety as well, you know.
But, um, I don't know, just youknow you get, your get your
(57:05):
name out there, and then maybeyou get to paracons.
You start selling shirts, youknow, or you're wanting to be on
a tv show or you know any ofthat stuff.
Speaker 5 (57:15):
That's when money starts getting made in the
paranormal yeah, we have our own, uh our own site for shirts,
for caps, gear.
You can pretty much get ourlogo on anything nowadays, uh, I
think I believe that's uh trepublic that we go through.
And then barnaby does have abook, uh fighting hiding, that
he helped uh co-write with uhcraig salk, and then you know
(57:40):
it's just, you know it'severything's out there.
We do do the convention scenes.
You know we all get around, um,some of us also do the
metaphysical events, stuff likethat, those that are, you know,
gifted into and that use theirabilities.
So our name is out there quitea bit in the communities all
(58:00):
over.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
That's cool.
That actually leads into thevery next thing I was going to
say.
If people wanted to find CAPS,where would they find you?
Speaker 5 (58:13):
Oh, Facebook, Wisconsin CAPS, TikTok,
Instagram, WisconsinCAPScom.
Wisconsin CAPS on YouTube.
Youtube, we are pretty muchEvery social media out there.
We have a Patreon account.
We're you know.
Look up Wisconsincaps and youcan pretty much find us anywhere
(58:33):
.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
That's cool Because people should find you,
especially if you live in theWisconsin area and you have
anything funky happening.
Yeah, you should.
Uh, you should give caps a call, especially if you see listen,
if you see bigfoot or dog man,yeah, give them a call most
(58:57):
definitely them, and then yourdoctor, because you need up your
heads a little bit but, umdon't take so many hits of lsc
next time yeah not so many.
Speaker 5 (59:10):
You can watch the chocolate mushroom bars, you
know you can take one hit, butyou take two.
Speaker 3 (59:17):
There's not coming back, it's just, it's just not
happening all right well, I, youknow res.
I gotta be honest with you, man, you you have, you have the
information, you have thestories.
I'm I'm thrilled with it.
The moment you mentionedcryptids I was like I am in.
We haven't done this yet.
We gotta do at least touch onthem a little bit so that way
(59:41):
when we do one long form, youknow people will know a little
bit of something on it.
Speaker 5 (59:47):
There you go.
I'm glad I could help with that.
Speaker 3 (59:50):
Yeah, you bet.
So, oh, Rez, I don't know ifyou've heard any of our shows,
and it's okay if you haven't.
Most of our guests never did.
But we do a little thing at theend of our show.
It's called this or that, okay,and basically what that is is
that we get to know you just alittle bit, very superficially,
(01:00:14):
just just beneath the skin.
Yeah, okay, just a little bityeah, yeah, yep, we'll ask you
basically two questions and youjust tell us which one you like
the most.
Is that cool, this or that?
Huh?
Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
All right, this or that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
All right.
So if you're ready for this orthat, yeah, let's try it All
right.
Well, with that being said said, I have one more question, dw.
Yeah, you want me to take thethis or that, or do you have one
today?
Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
I think you did it last week, so I'll I'll I'll do
this week all right, I've got asheet ready here.
We're gonna start rotating, sonext one's mine next one's yours
and I'm expecting uh,excellence, excellence, baby.
Oh, we should do that sometime.
Yeah, we should, and actuallyno more seriously what I should
(01:01:11):
do no what I should do is uh, uh.
my daughter came up with somegood ones.
I keep forgetting to ask her.
She has some good ones wheneverwe do this, but this week, here
we go.
So would you rather read thebook or watch the movie?
Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Oh, that's a tough one.
I'd have to say watch the movie, and if the movie is good
enough, I'd have to read thebook then.
Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Okay, watch the movie , and if the movie is good
enough I have to read the book,then okay, so because of that,
would you rather watch an actionadventure or romantic comedy?
Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
action adventure all right beach or pool the beach
all right, would you rep andyou're?
Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
you're're from Wisconsin, so this applies.
Would you rather build asnowman or build a sandcastle?
Sandcastle, all right.
If you could time travel.
Would you rather travel back to1825 or forward to 2225?
(01:02:24):
1825.
Okay, Would you rather GhostHunt with the Ghostbusters or
Scooby-Doo and the gang?
Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
Oh no, oh, this is a tough one.
I'd say Scooby-Doo.
All right, kind of along thoselines.
Oh, this is a tough one, I'dsay Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
All right, kind of along those lines Comedy or
Shaggy or Shaggy.
Yeah, comedy or paranormal,paranormal.
Okay, christmas or Halloween.
Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Halloween Stay spooky .
Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
All right, we've got a barbecue.
Would you rather have a burgeror a brat?
Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
A brat Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Last one, john.
Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
Olsen or Jeffrey Dahmer?
Oh, I don't know, I'll go with.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Olsen.
I don't know if that's a win ora loss on that one.
Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
I don't know.
You had to think about it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Or Jeffrey Dahmer Dahmer knows.
I don't know.
I heard his taste in men wasterrible, oh gosh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
That was.
Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Well, I should say that is on par with the rest of
your material.
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Might as well throw a groaner in there.
Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Hey man.
Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
We stayed away from the native jokes all night.
Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
We did yes and I've got one, but I'm not going to
say it yet.
Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
They're going to offend me, so we're good.
Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
I feel like every comedian has a groaner, you know
.
I feel, like, as long as you'reokay with it, you should get
the reaction you want.
So it's okay to have a groaner,knowing that's going to be the
reaction if you're hoping towrite you know something with
enormous laughter, and it's agroaner.
Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
That's different I just write with mine, with the
expectation they're all groanersand whatever I come out of it,
I I get and it's great.
That's the way I look at it.
It's a reaction, it's somethingyeah.
It's what we're there for.
It's what we're there for.
It's the reaction, I don't know.
(01:04:54):
I haven't had anybodyoutrightly boo me.
I've never had anybody.
Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
Alright, so when's the next time you're going to be
standing?
Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
up.
He's coming to your show, andjust I can be the new hecklefish
here.
Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I can't remember.
Am I in Wisconsin?
Where am I?
Am I in Appleton?
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
I think I am.
Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
Last time I saw you were in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
He's not far away from Appleton.
He could come to that 15minutes away.
Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
There we go Great.
Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
And what would be great is if it's like enormous
laughter and just one lone boofrom the back row and he can't
see.
He's like who is that?
So don't tell him you're coming, I just want him to like you're
recognizing my voice orsomething.
Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
I know that voice.
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
That's that big ugly indian, damn it um, you know, I
hear enormous laughter and thenall of a sudden just hear boo I
think that'd be a great yeahthat would that would actually
be funny.
I don't know if I'd hold ittogether if I heard that.
To be fair.
Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
I'll be screaming in the background.
Do I get ravaged by a savage?
Oh, that would be good.
Get your boo buddy out.
Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
All right, yeah, good yeah, get your blue buddy out,
all right.
Yeah, we gotta go.
Before talking, that's a goodnote to end on double teaming
again, all right, uh, so bridge,he's my hetero life mate.
Hetero DW's my hetero life mate.
I wouldn't even say life mate.
So he's hetero that's it alright, anyways, hey man, I think we
(01:07:01):
put together a pretty goodlittle show here, entertaining
is now towards the end.
But no man, you're veryinformative.
Very, yeah, I like it.
I think people need to checkout Caps and you have a YouTube
right.
Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
Yeah yeah, wisconsin Caps on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
All right, watch their stuff.
Watch it Wisconsin Caps YouTube.
I might even put a link in theepisode description.
Yeah, appreciate it.
Well, like I said, you knowgood stuff.
Glad to have you, dw.
Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Always, always.
And, by the way, if you want toget a, here's the Thing t-shirt
, crowdmadecom, just search forSquares.
Always, always good seeing you,buddy, all right, anyways,
whatever, All right, alwaysalways good seeing you buddy
alright, anyways whateveralright.
Well, you know, I thinkeverybody knows what this means.
(01:08:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:27):
What's going on?
This is Scalarius, I am JohnOlson and with me, as always, is
DW, the diseased waterfowlserene.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
What you sturdy duck you.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, diseased.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm sure people love that so I am drinking because I
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I found it best just not to embellish on whatever you
but you actually acknowledgethat one, so I I'm going to call
it a win.
Yeah, okay All right.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So today is the Mountain Dew, the hard Mountain
Dew, baja Blast, nice, and I'mpretty sure I've had this flavor
before.
I think I can't remember yeahyou have.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
We're not going to talk about the other stuff that
you drink.
Not quite yet.
We're going to wait for alittle while to discuss the
other stuff that you drink.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And there's reasons why.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But yeah, we're going to wait for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
The thing is I usually get a variety pack, and
I don't think I so I've donethis so many times.
I now have a variety pack ofMountain Dew, of one brand of
hard cider, another brand ofhard cider, of Mountain Dew of
one brand of hard cider, anotherbrand of hard cider.
I still have some.
What is it Not your father'sroot beer, or whatever?
So I've got basically I don't.
(02:54):
I drink once a week on Mondays,pretty much, so I don't go
through it very quickly, but Ido have a big variety now of of
various drinks so I like I liketo mix it up and not do hard
cider every week.
Today we got um mountain dew, soso is mrs serene uh, okay, so
(03:16):
she nervous at all.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
She's like man you're .
The fridge is getting full withall this uh funky alcohol, so
what no?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
she does.
I mean, I drink so infrequentlythat if I do have anything at
all, like even a glass of wine,she's like is everything all
right?
Do you have a bad day at work,or something like.
So she thinks it's weird andshe I, I've had to start
drinking on my own because shehas stopped.
She stopped when, um, she waspregnant with our daughter.
(03:51):
After she was born, she was soworried that, uh, having a drink
would put her in such a deepsleep that she wouldn't hear the
baby crying.
So she didn't even drink afterour daughter was born and she
just never got back into thehabit of it and so she's had.
(04:14):
I think the last thing she hadwas, um, at Christmas time
someone made a hard uh applecider.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Um not.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Not like a hard cider from the, the orchard type of
thing, like someone made a hard,uh, apple cider, um, not not
like a hard cider from the, theorchard type of thing, like
someone made a hot, a hot hardcider and she tried a bit of
that, um.
But other than that she has notbeen drinking a lot in the last
10 years and you know she justshe just doesn't miss it, so you
(04:44):
know she'll be.
I am usually driving us, I'lldrive her somewhere and she
still has no interest indrinking.
So but whatever you know that's,that's fine.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So and you don't drink anywhere other than home.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I mean, I I know it's very rarely unless very rarely,
well, because hotel gig orsomething.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Then you might have a couple, but and again it's.
It's very rarely, very rarely.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Well, because hotel gig or something, then you might
have a couple, but and againit's, it's partly because I
don't want to drink and drive,and usually I'm the one driving
my place myself places so Ican't have anything then.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So yeah it's my responsibility of you, dubs.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I know that that's something you should look into.
Yeah, just responsibility.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So I don't know, I, I , that's what I've heard, and
this, yeah, that's what I'veheard.
So, hey, uh, there's a lot ofreally cool things happening in
the world of scolarius, and Ifeel that we should discuss at
least a couple of them numberone um.
We have two new countries,france and japan.
(05:52):
So I'm going to take this timeto say domo arigato um you know,
yeah, yeah konnichiwa,konnichiwa as well, but Domo
Arigato obviously means thankyou.
In a way, you are very whateverit may be, I don't know, but it
(06:16):
worked for Mr Roboto, so we'regoing to say it like that.
Like I said, france I don'tknow how much they're going to
listen, especially if they goback into our backlogs.
They might hear a couple things, including an apology letter
(06:36):
for me to the French people,which might give them a laugh or
two, which would be fine.
But yeah, so france, uh parisspecifically, and japan, are now
uh listeners of scolarius,which was pretty badass.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I, I might, I might add and if anyone from not not
just these countries, butanywhere outside the u S?
Canada and can't, or or Canada,if you're listening.
We want to know how this cameabout.
Like, are you an Englishspeaking person in that country?
(07:16):
Like, did you originate fromthe U?
S and you move there?
Are you there for work?
Are you there temporarily, doyou?
Do you have someone translatingthis?
We're we're baffled.
We don't know what it is and Iwould love to find out what the
deal is we just want you to.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
we want you to reach out.
See, reach out, baby.
Reach out to us, say hey, dw.
And reach out to us, baby, sayhere's the thing.
We want you to hold out yourhand and say listen, listen, we
(07:54):
want to know, we want to knowwhat it is that you, how you
listen to us, you know theAmerican dream, you know that's
the rules, baby, that's right.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So was that your Eddie Murphy or SpongeBob?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Eddie Murphy would be way better.
Listen, listen, listen.
This is more like Eddie Murphyright here.
Listen up.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
No, it's not.
It's just as much, eddie.
No.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
See Eddie Murphy would be like.
And tomorrow morning we'rehaving waffles.
See that, that's more EddieMurphy.
So okay, anyways, we want youto reach out and let us know and
do that.
You can do that by well, maybeyou should.
Possibly, if you want to, youcan reach out to DW, DW Serene
(08:46):
Comedian on Facebook.
You can find me at John OlsonComedian 2.0 on Facebook.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
You can find us both together on.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Facebook.
We're not a couple.
No, we're not a couple.
You can find us right there onthe Scolari's page on Facebook.
We do still, surprisinglyenough, have a tick tock page.
I don't know how much we'regoing to use it, though, but we
do have it.
I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
We have it for now.
We don't know what will happentomorrow.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
We don't know how long it's going to be around.
Yeah, but you know Instagram is, you know we are scolarius
there and you know, if you wantto listen to every single
episode that we've ever done,you can do that at
scolariaspodbuzzsproutcom.
And there's more stuff, there'smore stuff and this is the cool
(09:36):
stuff.
I am excited about this stuffright here.
If you go to crowdmade slashcollections, slash ScolariusPod,
and you know what you're goingto find, do you know?
Do you know what you're goingto find?
Dw?
I know, yes.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're going to find.
Well, here, I'm not going to beable to remember all of them,
but you'll be able to be able tofind Scolarius, but you'll be
able to find Scleria's shirts.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
We have coffee mugs, we have Hellhound's dog collars.
Yep.
And I'm sure there's more, butwe also have I believe you put
that one up on the website, theone that you showed me recently.
Yep, we now have a quote thatapparently I say um and and
(10:33):
scolarius 316, which I don'tknow what you're supposed to,
scolari.
How is that?
I?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I don't know, I don't know what scolarius 316 is
supposed to mean.
Back in good old 1996, therewas a pretty famous professional
wrestler who once said Austin316 says I just whooped your ass
and I thought that maybe youknow, we should say Scalarius
316, we just entertained yourass.
(11:01):
So that's what Scalarius 316 is.
Is that Scalarius 316, we justentertained your ass.
So that's what scolarius 316 is.
Is that scolarius 316?
We just entertained your ass.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So if you want a shirt that's going to make
people say what does that mean?
Or who is dw?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
yep, then we have shirts yeah, and they're,
they're not expensive, likeeverything's under 30 bucks.
So, um, I will say this uh, wedo have scolarius ghosters, not
coasters ghosters, uh, which ispretty awesome.
Like you said, we have thehere's the thing, uh, dw.
(11:38):
Serene t-shirt.
Also the here's the thing dw.
Serene.
Scalarius 316 t-shirt andhoodie the Scalarius logo.
Beanie the real logo.
We also had the alternative,but one of the coolest things is
not only can you find a leashfor your hellhounds, a collar
(12:00):
for your hellhounds, but you canalso get the scolarius
hellhounds pet bowl.
That's right, yep, it's just.
Basically it's a bowl that saysthe hellhounds.
People will know, you will know, and it'll be a lot of fun.
So, like I said, just go tocrowdmadecom, forward slash
(12:24):
collections, forward slashscolarius pod, and you can order
up all of that stuff or if yougo to crowd made and just search
for a scolarius, you should beable to find it.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So yeah, I suppose you could do that too, yeah, so
I think I think we should startnow, while his dog is licking
his face that this would havebeen the perfect time to start
that was just to catch him offguard, like here he is like oh
crap well, you know, that's thefunniest thing.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I know this is audio only, but we can see what's
going on.
You guys, uh, and, and that wasa a perfect, perfect, uh, I
guess, segue in a way to um, ourguest this evening.
Uh, he is part of caps inappleton, wisconsin, which, but,
but they go all over, they goall over wisconsin and cap
(13:19):
starts for, starts for no, itstands for, uh, cryptids,
anomalies and paranormal society, and this is rez from caps, rez
.
How's it going tonight?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
oh yeah, thank you for bringing me aboard tonight.
I'd like to say thank you tothe american Dream people.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, that's right baby.
The American Dream here.
The American Dream is runningthis show tonight.
That's right.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Oh yeah, see the American Dream.
He knows what he's doing behindthat keyboard there.
He's going to teach you a thingor two about this podcasting
world, thanks.
How are we all doing tonight?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So, first off, who was the pooch that we saw sneak
onto your camera there?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
That's my little hellhound.
That's Robbie.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Seems like a sweet little pup.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Can be until you make him upset and you know he's all
90 pounds of pit bull yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
All right, I see how that could work.
So, all right, Rez, you got adish man.
We kind of connected.
We connected way back we'regoing to talk about this a
little bit we connected way backat Pararock, the Annex yeah,
(14:49):
Pretty cool little shindig.
I wish it would have done a lotbetter than what it did.
I feel it had more potentialthan anything.
I mean it was amazing.
A lot of people, really coolpeople there.
A lot of people, really coolpeople there.
It kind of I was very upset bythe lack of people that showed
(15:12):
up Because I feel they wouldhave.
They really would have really,really enjoyed that, that
Paracon.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
But you know, we kind of you know, we talked there
and said, hey, you know we dothis podcast and you're like,
yeah, we could do something.
And there's been a few thingsthat have happened over the last
what six or eight months but wefinally got together.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yep, it takes time.
You know we're always on theroad doing something,
investigating or doing Paracons,plus having a family.
You know it's kind of hard toget nailed down to one spot for
an hour or two.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Ah well, I mean, I wish we could say the same, but
I, you know, we, I mean, yeah,we go everywhere and do this,
things and everything else, butwe always have uh, we always
have our recording time.
We carve that stuff outSometimes, you know, there have
(16:11):
been moments where we can't getit done, but we always end up
getting an episode or two out,right Dubs.
Yep.
Yeah, yeah, we always do that,all right, so tell us about it.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
I want to say something to Dubs over here.
You got one kid, only one kid,right?
Yes?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I'm taking it.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Have some more, she'll start drinking again,
trust me.
Okay, I have four biologicalchildren altogether.
I got seven with the wife,along with grandchildren and
everything else.
Believe me, pop a few more ofthem out, she'll start drinking.
She won't care if she sleepsthrough the night, it'll be all
right at that point you careabout anything.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean honestly not really you.
Just as the time goes by, justminute by minute, yep, that's
day by by day.
That's that's how it goes.
So tell us a little bit about,about caps either.
There's a good.
You know you said cryptids inthere and immediately my yeah,
(17:16):
you got my attention.
So tell us about caps.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
You know when you guys were established, who's all
in the group and uh, I mean,yeah, well, start with that
barnaby jones is leadinvestigator and founder of caps
um five years ago.
We just celebrated this summerfifth year anniversary of caps.
I've been part of the team alittle over three years now.
(17:42):
Um, I am pretty much aninvestigator, a psychic medium.
I'm more of an investigatorfirst.
That's why, if you ever watchany of our shows, underneath my
title says investigator.
But I also use my abilitiesalso during my investigations to
figure things out.
We have two full-time mediums,stephanie Lynn and Ellie
Weisenhall.
We have two full-time mediums,stephanie Lynn and Ellie
(18:04):
Weisenhall.
Then we have a handful ofinvestigators that are part of
the team.
We have Ma, who's Barnaby'smother.
We have Derek, who also is amedium, let's see.
We have Ethan's, our skeptic,which you got to have one of
them because everyone's got tolearn to debunk things and look
at all sides of the coin, notjust go in with the one side,
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otherwise everything's haunted.
So you know there's a couple ofmembers out there, you know.
So we're a closely knit group.
We put on documentaries onYouTube all the time and
definitely have our own shows.
You can find us right onYouTube Wisconsin Caps if you
put that in.
Or you can go us right onyoutube, wisconsin caps, if you
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put that in or you can go to thewebsite, wisconsincapscom.
Um, I've joined the team firesto be working with the
paranormal being native american.
Um, I never really put muchinto cryptids right away and
when I joined the team like, hey, you want, want to go look for
Bigfoot and I go a day in thewoods?
Sure, why not?
I love being in the woods, asyou can tell by my backdrop.
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That's where I'm at peace.
So I went out there andBarnaby's showing me all these
different things here and thereabout what to watch for, for
signs of Sasquatch or Bigfoot,and I go hmm, I've been seeing
these on my reservation foryears, never put two and two
together.
So that kind of opened it upfor me.
(19:35):
Okay, let's take a look at this.
Because when I was growing up,you know, yeah, we had the
legends and the lores talkingabout Bigfoot with the natives,
but the only evidence we everhad was the, the patty film, and
that was like to me.
That wasn't enough for me to go.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Let's go looking for it you're talking about the
patterson gimley, right?
Yeah, um.
So I'm sorry, I don't mean tointerrupt you, but I have to go
ahead and ask you this Where'syour reservation?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
at Bowler Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Okay, and where's?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
the Central Stockton, Virginia reservation.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Okay, is that Central or is that more West?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Northwoods.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh okay, way up there .
Like kind of by UP up in there.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
About an hour away from the UP.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
You know, right off Highway 29.
There, uh, about an hour awayfrom the up, okay, you know,
right off highway 29.
Those that don't know thereservation, a lot of them know
the casino.
We have north star casino rightoff of highway 29.
We're right in between greenbay and wausau okay, very, very
cool.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
So you said that you seen the bigfoot on your
reservation.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I've seen signs of them.
I haven't actually seen bigfootthemselves.
Um, I've seen tree stuffings,axes, things like that that they
say are you know signs of wherethey've come through?
Trees bent completely over,pointing in one direction,
things like that.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Okay, so I don't want to be this guy, like you know,
Mr Skeptic here, but I'm justgoing to say, like could that be
wind and things like that?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yep, Now there's a lot of times it can be wind and
straight straight wind storms,stuff like that.
But when you have some of thestuff where the branches are
interwoven with each other, ittakes thumbs to do that.
It just doesn't fall naturallythat way.
So it's things to look for.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Wow.
So what makes you think thatthat's Bigfoot and not just
someone who's in the woods,bored and made a structure out
of sticks?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
um public lands.
I could say, yeah, it could besomeone being bored making a
structure, um, but you look,gotta look at it.
Um, being up here on areservation out in the depths of
the woods.
The only people that go outthere are hunters or those that
are working in the woods.
They're not going to sit thereand play tiddlywinks and build
structures you know, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
So since we're on the cryptids, we might as well stay
on there for just a little bit,right?
Oh, I, I know that you know,you know me and the doves.
We live in the great state ofMinnesota and I mean I say that,
sure, great.
Anyway, we live in the state.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
I always had a good time out there.
I've been out there for a fewconventions and a couple of
fundraisers.
It's a good state, come on.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's an okay state, moving on All state, come on,
it's an okay state.
Moving on All right, come on,all right.
You obviously are neighbor tothe east and Minnesotans usually
have a little problem withWisconsin.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I'm a Wisconsin transplant.
I wasn't born and raised here.
Where?
Were you born?
I'm a Chicagoan.
I'm born down in Oregon.
Oh okay, so I'm a fib.
Can'm born down in the Florida,so I'm a fib.
Can't help it but go Bears okay, I got you.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I'm also.
That's what I was going to say.
I don't have that, I guess,dislike or whatever for
Wisconsin because I'm from Iowa,even though Wisconsin don't
like the Iowans just about asmuch as they don't like the
Minnesotans.
I'm just saying it doesn't goboth ways, like I really don't
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mind Wisconsin whatsoever.
I feel Iowa is like Wisconsinlight.
You guys are the Miller andwe're the Miller light.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You understand, that's kind of how that worked.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Miller Lite.
You understand that's how thatworked.
Yeah, so that's kind of Anyway.
So what other cryptids are inthe great state of Wisconsin?
Oh, you're back.
We've been here.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
You froze up on me.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Oh, okay, I get you.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
So I hear a word you just said, but okay, whatever
you say.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll just.
It's okay, I could go throughthat whole diatribe again,
that's fine.
So what cryptids other thanBigfoot are in the great state
of Wisconsin?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Dogmen.
So werewolf.
Some consider him a werewolf,some consider him, you know,
literally a dogman.
I kind of have a theory thatmaybe he is a skinwalker or a
medicine man that's turned evil,that's been able to shapeshift
and has done so much time onthat side of the coin that he's
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not able to shape back intohuman form so consistently dog
not, yeah, okay, so nottransforming at night, yeah this
is the creature okay, um, I'vesaid this numerous times on this
podcast and I'll say it againif there is one creature, one
quote-unquote monster thatscares the living hell out of me
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, it's a werewolf.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And because of the fact of the dog man or skin
walker or things like that,where people have said that
these things exist, like draculaokay, we've heard of vampires,
but they're not like that.
Uh, the mummy okay, mummies doexist, but they're not out
walking around you know, right,you know, whatever the creature
of the black lagoon yeah no,because if there was one down
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there, the gators would have gotit a long time ago.
So I know that's not a thing.
So that's what it's likewerewolf, wolfman, whatever.
If you want to say believable,it's the most believable out of
any of the I guess quote-unquotemonsters that they portray yeah
, I can go with that.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
You know, I'd love to get face to face with any one
of them, though you know I Ithink that would be a good time
to build, actually document it Idon't think you're gonna be
writing anything down duringthat point.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I I just I, that's who who writes anymore.
It's all video, buddy oh yeah,that's true, I know and audio.
I can see DW trying to writeHold on, hold on hold on, take
notes here.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Hold on, don't attack .
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Stop your attacking.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
That's my leg.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
That's my leg Come on , I need that to run.
And then I stop and say okay,here's the thing, right,
apparently, because I guess Isay that it's all right's, it's
the perfect, perfect thing.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
um, and, by the way, if you want to uh have the
here's the thing t-shirt, youcan find that at crowdmadecom,
uh, just I'll wait for you tosend me one of the uh beanies oh
okay.
Well, yeah, we can, we couldprobably, uh, we could probably
afford that.
That that might be in thismonth's budget.
We can see if we can figure itout Budget Exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I'll send you one of my old sweaty cap shirts Just a
fair trade.
Okay, maybe it might havesleeves, it might not.
Some of my additions aresleeveless.
I'm a big guy.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
No, I hear you.
As long as it's been washed,that's all I care about.
So, yes, it's all cool.
Uh, so all right, you have dogman, you have Bigfoot.
Have you guys investigatedanything that's involved?
Speaker 5 (27:30):
uh, sightings of either or oh yeah, we have
people that go on our websiteand report encounters and
everything else all the time,and when we do get that
information we go through and alot of times we'll go out and
investigate it.
You know we're there to helpthose in the community that
reach out to us.
So it doesn't matter if youhave a cryptid sighting or if
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you have an issue with aparanormal in your home or at
your work.
We'll come out and check it outfree of charge.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Very nice and you go all over the state of Wisconsin
or you go further.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
We go all over period .
And we also do.
We're in the process of settingup an affiliate program with
those that we trust their workand credibility.
We trust their work andcredibility.
So if we're not in that area orcan't get to that area, we can
put you in contact with someonethat's reputable and trustworthy
to come out and help you.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Very cool, that's awesome.
So we were into the cryptidspart of it, and then the other
part is anomalies.
So, anomalies, are you talkinglike UFOs?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
UFOs like the Paulding Lights and anything
that can be considered part ofthe paranormal world that isn't
a ghost or isn't already definedin one of the main sections.
So if you are out in the fieldand you're seeing orbs across
your field all the time and youwant someone to come out and
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check it out, that's where, tome, the anomalies come in.
You know, document that to lookat what's going on there and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Very cool.
Have you ever seen an anomalyor I'm gonna even say ufo, over
there, uh, over there, by lakemichigan there?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
uh, no, ufos, I know several years ago here in
reservation.
You look out my bathroom windowat night and you can almost see
a glow that's going through thefield there, and that was back
when my kids were just kneehighs.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Haven't seen it recently, you know, but that was
one of the things that I didwitness up here um, is it fair
to say, uh, that native Americanreservations tend to have a
higher rate of paranormalactivity than most places?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Well, that's kind of a double edged sword there.
Actually, if you actually thinkabout it, this entire continent
is a Native Americanreservation.
We were here first.
So every ancient land we werealready on and chances are one
of the ancestors have been thereor been buried there already.
So you can't just sayreservations, but what you're
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getting, what kind of whatyou're getting at, would be
we're more open to it andacknowledge it.
We're more.
A lot of us are more in tunewith it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So it seems like there's more, but really it's no
different than anywhere else Iwill admit this um, I seen what
I thought and I said and Itestified essentially not to a
criminal judge or anything.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Testify, brother testify.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I was driving back from seeing a female friend I
had back when I was living inIowa Chicken, and so I'm living
in Iowa Chicken.
And so I'm leaving that out butanyway.
So I would drive up.
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She lived in Nebraska.
I would drive up and hit SiouxCity, you know, from the
Nebraska side, which is easybecause they're all kind of
connected in a way.
But the road I took was Highway77, which ran through both,
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well, the Winnebago and the WallHill reservations.
There, which is Ho-Chunk, whichthey also have another part in,
I think, near Tomah, wisconsin,somewhere around there, right.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
They're right up here in Wittenberg also.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yep, okay, so the Winnebago Ho-Chunk Indian
Reservation is right there on 77.
And I'm driving and all of asudden this thing it was big, it
was hairy, shut up and it waslike it was not a man and it
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looked like a freaking werewolfand it like kind of walked out
all big gate walked, startedwalking towards the road and
then immediately like pivotedand kind of ran parallel for a
second and then into the woodsand I, I, I mean it took me a
(32:48):
minute to register what the helljust happened.
But then, as soon as I did, Islammed on the brakes, I stopped
and I was like what, and I waskind of looking in my rear on
the brakes, I stopped and I waslike what, and I was kind of
looking in my rear view mirrorand everything and I was like
what in the world was that?
And it came to my senses like,okay, if that was what I thought
it was, I'm not being parkedright here is probably not the
smartest thing to do.
(33:08):
And then I just continued on.
Um, but yeah, I, that was that'swhat really got me.
I was like, okay, if there wasa dog man, if there was a
werewolf, if there wasn'tanything on those Indian
reservations is where I feelthey would.
They would be right, becauseshapeshifters, uh, you know,
(33:33):
medicine men, um, um you weretalking about like ancestors and
elders and things like that.
It just I don't know.
It just made me think that andI felt that maybe all that
activity in those areas, um,there was a special reason for
it.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
It's kind of where I was going with it well, one
thing you got to remember whenit comes to tribal lands,
they're federally protected, soyou don't have any hunters out
there other than tribal members.
It's not.
The woods aren't being trampledthrough by every Tom, dick and
Harry.
So you know, we respect ourwoods.
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There's a lot of chunks of thewoods that you don't go into
unless you actually have to.
You kind of just leave it alonebecause it's nature.
So they would have plenty ofplaces to thrive and to hide and
to grow, you know.
So that's why you might see alittle bit more of that around
the reservations and thesurrounding communities also.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Uh, yeah, and then most of thetime they are the wildlife and
everything else is protected inin those too.
So, um, if it was an animal, ithad plenty of food source, and
if it was a monster or, you know, a cryptid or anything like
that, then it also has plenty offood source.
So I can see why everyonethrive definitely, I know.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I actually over the weekend I heard about town azor,
that's a couple miles up theroad from here, up on the
monomony reservation, agentleman goes out in the woods
all the time and and he's gotsupposedly has pictures of
Sasquatch within 30, 40 feet ofeach other.
He's an older guy, he's sick,he's not doing the greatest in
(35:22):
health, but he goes out to thewoods almost every day and he
has these interactions with themand you know that's 15 minutes
up the road from here.
So they are around.
It's just who they choose tointeract with and being at the
right place at the right time.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
So why do you think that, like I would assume, they
have an animal instinct, right,so they're going to?
If you know somebody who's meekand mild DW was in the woods,
they're going to interact inprobably kind of a
(36:02):
non-aggressive type of way,right, because they wouldn't
feel like they were threatened.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
That and I think they can basically read us, feel our
hearts, what we have in ourheart.
If we come with love and withpureness and good intentions,
that you're more apt to have theinteraction.
You come out there dressed likea hunter, loaded to the gills
with freaking weapons andeverything else they're going to
(36:26):
see as a threat and they'realso going to feel that in you
because you are loaded forfiring, you are loaded for
taking something out that in youbecause you are loaded for
firing, you are loaded fortaking something out, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
So what do you think?
The percentage of claims ofbigfoot dogmen, things like that
, with the cryptids and theanomalies?
What do you think of thepercentage um are legitimately
seeing what they think they'reseeing, or maybe something else?
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Honestly, I've never really thought about the
percentage.
You know everyone that believesthat they've seen something.
It's like saying you knowyou've seen Jennifer Anderson,
but yet DW, don't believe it.
You can be like man.
I've seen her walk into themall today.
I couldn't believe it.
He's like, yeah, man, I seenher walking in the mall today.
I couldn't believe it.
He's like, yeah, bs, you'refull of crap.
You know what the hell is sheto be doing out here.
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It's kind of one of them things, but in your mind you believe
it.
You know it's true.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
In his mind it's like he's a joke, unless he's seen
it Exactly.
And see, unless he's seen itexactly and see, I feel that's
that's the way it is with a lotof uh, a lot of people,
especially with the cryptids, isthat they're gonna immediately
like it's kind of weird.
Um, ghosts and things like that.
People are more uh in tune tobe like, okay, yeah, wow, man,
(37:51):
you have a ghost in your house.
That's crazy, right, but you'relike, hey, dude, last week I
was out camping and I know for afact I seen bigfoot.
They're gonna come on right,yeah, so, but if they seen it,
it would experience themselves.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
It would open a whole new thing in their mind.
You know, I, I have friends ofmine, you you know, because of
what I do.
I have business cards andeverything else and they're like
, um, one of them has me listedas Ghostbuster in their phone.
You know, they're like yeah,you, whatever, you believe in,
dude, but I don't believe in theafterlife.
(38:30):
Well, that's your choice,that's your beliefs.
I'm not here to change yourbeliefs.
I'm here to to show the dataand the evidence that I've
experienced and captured overyears and share my stories of
what I've experienced.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So to each their own yeah, it is to each their own.
And we we started kind ofdabbling into the paranormal
part of that stuff, like theghosts and the ghoulies and
whatever.
So I figured I'd ask you aboutthe caps portion of the
paranormal stuff.
You know what's going on overin there, is it?
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You get a little bit ofeverything?
Is it most just residual stuffLike what do you have happen?
Speaker 5 (39:20):
It's literally a little bit of everything you
know.
As much as we get out in thedifferent locations that we've
gone to and we get to work with.
You know you do get some placesthat are residual.
It's just a constant loop ofenergy doing the same thing it
was doing the whole time it washere.
It's just you left that behind,because everywhere you go you
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leave a piece of your energybehind an imprint.
So someone sits there longenough doing the same thing day
in and day out.
That energy is still going tobe there and it's going to be on
that loop.
Where you get some of theintelligence stuff, they'll
start interacting with ourequipment.
They'll interact with ourmediums, even with myself.
You know I'll get tidbits ofinformation just shot in my
(40:03):
brain out of nowhere that Idon't know where these answers
are coming from, but they seemto come out and end up being
correct oh, uh, do you?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I mean I'm sorry he's kind of he got me on that one.
You just, I sit there and Ithink you know people they don't
believe as much as you knowthey maybe should in certain
(40:38):
situations.
Right, I mean, they they justkind of dismiss it, as you know,
like dw always said uh, it'sthe heater banging or whatever
else, or it's you know this,that or the other thing.
Like people dismiss that stuff.
Um, I feel there are situationswhere there are things that are
happening, legit, and peoplejust try to dismiss it and I
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feel that it makes it worse andworse.
As a paranormal investigator,do you think this stuff
progresses if people ignore itmore?
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Depending on why it's what's going on.
If it is someone that's tryingto get a message to you and you
ain't listening to them, yeah, Ican definitely see it
progressing and getting worse tothe point where you have to pay
attention to it.
It's almost kind of like youknow your little brother poking
you over and over.
Am I annoying you?
(41:32):
Yet Are you paying attention tome?
Yet, are you paying attentionto me?
Yet you just want to turn andbackhand them.
Right, because one of themthings where you have to face
situation head on, where you getsome of the stuff that you know
, when you get to the darkerside of things, when you start
feeding into it and you feedyour fear into it, that darkness
kind of grows because it feedsoff of it.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
So it's that double-edged sword again so what
is your percentage and I'mgonna bring it up again, I know
it's gonna get you but what?
What do you think thepercentage of like I'm not gonna
say demonic, because it's not,you know, yeah, whatever um, bad
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versus good, what do you thinkthat is like decent energy, you
know just having a good time andversus like not good energy I'm
gonna hurt you.
Like what do you think that isin your personal experience?
Speaker 5 (42:29):
about 85 percent of the time it's good, positive
energy, but you do get thatsmall portion of the darkness
and negativity.
I will never say it's demonicunless I have full-out proof.
I have done a very little studyinto demonology and basically I
look at it like this they'regoing to try to scare you.
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They're going to use the D word, they're going to use Satan's
name and everything else to putthat fear into you.
But you got to remember whenyou die, the same personality
you have right now is going tobe the personality you have on
the other side.
So if you're a jerk or a realbutthole, then you're going to
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be the same thing on the otherside.
So if you're one of them, onesthat wants to hurt people or
wants to talk trash all the timethat's what you're going to do
when someone comes in and triesto communicate with you.
Or if you're that grumpy oldguy that you know I built that
nuke missile to blow them kidsaway, so I'm sick of listening
to them play ZZ Top you're stillgoing to be that same guy.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay so, dw, you're still going to be the same guy.
Okay so, dw, do you know thatyou're still going to be the
same guy when you die, as youare right now?
Speaker 4 (43:43):
You're the one who should be worried about that.
Why, I'll be fine, I mean he'smaking timid.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
He's going to be like little Casper floating around.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Well, I think I've, I've often how you doing after I
died.
That's when I'm gonna startsaying here's the thing just to
mess with john oh no I I'veoften joked over the world.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
You're gonna be here.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Here's the thing here's the thing I've often
joked with my wife that, um, Iwould like mess with her and
like put stuff up on the topshelf of the cupboard just so
she can't reach it, and justlike every time I can't get the
coffee cup, and you know.
So that that's.
That's the kind of stuff Iwould do.
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I wouldn't like scare people or, you know, push things off a
table.
I would, you know I'd have somefun with it, you know I
wouldn't have fun with it.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
I would be the angry ghost because somebody put the
coffee cups whatever too highand I couldn't get to it.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
That's what I would be, so I'd be I gotta take all
this energy to reach up thereand try to get the coffee cup.
You could have just left it onthe counter for me, you know,
then I could just scoot it overa little bit and had coffee.
See.
I would be that wisecrackingone that's, you know, pulling
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punches on the spirit box.
You know, oh, who said this I'dbe coming back.
Your mama, did your daddy tellyou that?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Have you seen Scary Movie?
You've seen.
Scary Movie right.
Oh yeah.
When he's like father.
Your mother's in here, mom getout.
You know, oh, come on, I wasjust having an.
Or your mother's in here, mom,get out.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Oh come on I was just having an orgy.
What the heck.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
I just remember that sketch from Saturday Night Live.
It was back in the AnniePoehler days.
One of them, farts, and theyspend the rest of the time
trying to figure out what thatwas like.
Did you hear it?
I got it on's.
Listen to it again.
They listen to it and yeah,that's a good one uh, that was a
good one just walking around,farting on everyone that's
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investigating I do.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
I do have a really a funny story about that um oh boy
, I was investigating and I wasletting off SBDs man, Like they
were, just they were not good.
And I remember one of theinvestigators was like what's
(46:28):
that smell?
You know, like what is that,Whatever?
And I started saying it's aphantom.
Smell, it's a phantom.
And then it just stuck with usand it became a running joke or
whatever else.
But yeah, it was.
Uh.
If anybody's listening that waswondering what the hell that
smell was, it was me the whole,the whole time it was finally
the truth comes out.
(46:49):
Yeah right probably 15 years,but yeah, it's me, it's me all
right.
So 15 years, but yeah, it's me,it's me all right.
So all right, we went throughthe cryptids, the anomalies and
the paranormal and we obviouslyknow what the society is.
It's all you guys together uhhelping people out.
Uh, who are the people on yourteam?
Again, name them off barnabyjones.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Stephanie lynn Jones, stephanie Lynn, ellie Wisenhall
.
Derek Tabo, I believe is hislast name.
I'm terrible at names here.
Let's see, here we have Barband Rick and then Ethan Ruby and
(47:34):
there's a couple more in there.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Holy moly, that's a big team.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Yep, you know, each one of us has our own talents
and skills, so we don't alwaysall work together Right.
Some of us, you know, getcalled in for the cryptic stuff,
some of us get called in theparanormal.
It all depends on whatspecifics they have.
So for all of us to be in onespot at one time since I've been
(47:59):
a member of the team, I don'tthink it's happened yet.
It's just it's hard becauseeveryone schedules and everyone
what they do that absolutelymakes sense, which kind of like?
Speaker 3 (48:12):
you kind of answered my question for me, but I'm
going to ask it anyway.
So it's going to be kind of areverse.
I was going to say, like Iwould assume, with the team that
big, you have people that arespecialized in certain areas of
what you have.
So who I mean the Bigfoot, youknow, the Bigfoot expert, the
(48:34):
cryptids expert, who what kindof experience do they have in in
that area, like especially upthere?
Speaker 5 (48:44):
barnaby, our team leader, is actually a
cryptozoologist.
Nice okay interesting.
So, yeah, he brings a wealth ofknowledge to the table, years of
study and you know.
And he also does the paranormal, also he does.
He goes both both ways there,you, you know, and I personally,
like I said in my stories, I'vegone, you know, both ways, with
(49:05):
the woods or out into theparanormal field.
I won't investigate anything,so it just kind of trickles down
on who's available and whatwe're looking for, what we're
doing.
Who's going to get the phonecall and say, hey, are you busy?
Speaker 3 (49:24):
All right, doing who?
Who's going to get the phonecall and say, hey, you busy, all
right.
So I'm going to ask thequestion that my mind has wanted
to know for quite a whileduring this podcast, and it's
this what cryptid do you guysget the most?
I guess sightings of, uh,bigfoot sasquatch and the
follow-up to that, which I thinkis the best question of both.
(49:47):
What is the weirdest cryptidcase that's been brought to caps
, meaning like something thatmaybe shouldn't even be there?
Speaker 5 (49:58):
you know, like I really don't think I've had one
one yet.
That shouldn't be there.
You know um a lot of the stuffthat we've gotten calls on or
we've gone out investigated umhave been known in the areas
that we've gone to okay, so likedog man sasquatch okay, beast
(50:19):
of Bray Road, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
That one is fascinating, dw, that's
something you should look up.
The Beast of Bray Road, youwill.
Yeah, I think you'll like that.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
Another dog man.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, pretty much.
So okay, Very cool, I was goingto say of your sightings, are
more of them say UFO, cryptid,whatever?
Speaker 5 (50:56):
are more of them towards the woods or towards the
lake.
A lot of the Bigfoot sightingsand all that are at woods or
road crossings.
Okay, people just having them.
We've had had hunters get ahold of us say, hey, you know, I
seen this out in my backyard orI seen this out in my hunting
land, stuff like that, um, ufos,uh, pretty much hit or miss.
(51:18):
You know, there's really norhyme or reason on where people
see them and report them from.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
You see where I was going with that, though, if it
was more like other aircraft,airplanes, helicopters.
I'm not saying I don't believein UFOs, yeah, just saying
there's a lot more explanationthan just like oh For, for
instance, we get the uhminnesota state patrol
(51:47):
helicopter that flies above usall the time.
It's legitimately, every nightseveral times, and the spotlight
sometimes will come out.
And when that spotlight comesout, it is legitimately a
spotlight.
It I mean from the area they'reat, which is like 150, 200 feet
in the air.
This thing, it shines bright onthe uh, on the ground, so
(52:11):
sometimes they'll, they'll turnit on, you know, and all of a
sudden you're seeing this lightcoming from whatever you know.
Obviously I, I know that it'sthe helicopter, right, but go
ahead.
I was going to say like, I mean, how many of those have you
looked at?
You know cases or whatever?
Speaker 5 (52:34):
and been like that that has that UFO you know, call
, we bring out equipment youknow, to monitor air traffic
control.
We have star charts, you knoweverything to get to show us
what is in the skies at thatpresent moment, in real time.
(52:56):
So then, as you see somethingin the sky, you look down, you
verify whether it's a plane,whether it's something on one of
these charts, and if it's not,then you start looking okay,
what is it?
At that point in time you goahead and you use the tools that
are available to you tobasically go through it and
(53:17):
figure out what it is.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
See, not everybody's going to have that stuff it's
right on their phones yeah, Iknow my uh, lovely queen consort
, she does have the star chartand she does the air traffic
control.
Um, I feel that'd be a good way, uh, to you know, take care of
the, the stuff that you know, totake care of the stuff that
(53:46):
isn't a UFO.
Or take care of the stuff thatis a UFO meaning you're going to
see it other than what you havethere.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Yep, and always be filming, document everything,
because you might be able to say, okay, well, I see this light,
I don't know what the heck it is.
If you're filming it and you'vegot a good camera, you can go
back later on your computer andsee if it seems different on the
footage versus what you seewith the naked eye, so you might
(54:17):
be able to verify what it mighthave been at that point in time
also.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Yeah, I was going to say always take a picture so you
can enhance it, look at it,yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I was sitting therethinking you know the cryptids
we got into that.
That's something I've beenwanting to do for a while on
this show.
We're going to have to dolong-form cryptids, I think at
(54:42):
some point.
Speaker 5 (54:43):
Get all the.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
Barnaby Jones, there's a lot of them and maybe
I will.
Maybe you know.
I think we're friends onFacebook.
Speaker 5 (54:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
So I might reach out to them.
Yeah, I mean, you guys seemlike you have.
Basically you're running thegambit on like if you were to
see a cryptid.
You know you're gonna call capsyou know, you know, and it
(55:13):
seems like, uh, the people thatare into the, uh seeing the
paranormal, they're doing thesame thing.
So you guys get pretty busy.
Speaker 5 (55:22):
Huh, yeah, we do and, uh, we've worked hard to build
that reputation that'strustworthy in the uh,
paranormal and crypticcommunities.
We've done our research, so,and if we don't know, we'll do
our best to find you an answerone way or another.
You know, because we areconnected with people all across
the country and even some outof the country that are still
(55:45):
doing the same research we arenice and you see, like I mean,
when you're doing the research,you do the research, you're just
not, you're not bullshittingyour way through it no, you
actually go out into the fieldand you go there and you sit,
you film, you document everylittle thing you know.
It's not like, uh, we just showthem, go, we look around, go.
(56:07):
Yeah, we don't see nothing.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
We're out of here, we're there, we're there for the
night the only way that'd bebeneficial is if you got paid,
you know unfortunately we don'tget paid.
Speaker 5 (56:20):
Yeah, it's all free services.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
You know there's at this time there's no money in
the paranormal uh which therewas well, but I feel, I don't
know, like I feel if you wereasking for money, people are
automatically going to assumecon man.
You know what I mean.
So the free service is the bestway of doing it, because in a
(56:45):
way, you're getting a name outthere, right, yeah, these people
sign off on you using their,their houses or their names or
whatever you know.
So they get a little bit ofnotoriety as well, you know.
But, um, I don't know, just youknow you get, your get your
(57:05):
name out there, and then maybeyou get to paracons.
You start selling shirts, youknow, or you're wanting to be on
a tv show or you know any ofthat stuff.
Speaker 5 (57:15):
That's when money starts getting made in the
paranormal yeah, we have our own, uh our own site for shirts,
for caps, gear.
You can pretty much get ourlogo on anything nowadays, uh, I
think I believe that's uh trepublic that we go through.
And then barnaby does have abook, uh fighting hiding, that
he helped uh co-write with uhcraig salk, and then you know
(57:40):
it's just, you know it'severything's out there.
We do do the convention scenes.
You know we all get around, um,some of us also do the
metaphysical events, stuff likethat, those that are, you know,
gifted into and that use theirabilities.
So our name is out there quitea bit in the communities all
(58:00):
over.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
That's cool.
That actually leads into thevery next thing I was going to
say.
If people wanted to find CAPS,where would they find you?
Speaker 5 (58:13):
Oh, Facebook, Wisconsin CAPS, TikTok,
Instagram, WisconsinCAPScom.
Wisconsin CAPS on YouTube.
Youtube, we are pretty muchEvery social media out there.
We have a Patreon account.
We're you know.
Look up Wisconsincaps and youcan pretty much find us anywhere
(58:33):
.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
That's cool Because people should find you,
especially if you live in theWisconsin area and you have
anything funky happening.
Yeah, you should.
Uh, you should give caps a call, especially if you see listen,
if you see bigfoot or dog man,yeah, give them a call most
(58:57):
definitely them, and then yourdoctor, because you need up your
heads a little bit but, umdon't take so many hits of lsc
next time yeah not so many.
Speaker 5 (59:10):
You can watch the chocolate mushroom bars, you
know you can take one hit, butyou take two.
Speaker 3 (59:17):
There's not coming back, it's just, it's just not
happening all right well, I, youknow res.
I gotta be honest with you, man, you you have, you have the
information, you have thestories.
I'm I'm thrilled with it.
The moment you mentionedcryptids I was like I am in.
We haven't done this yet.
We gotta do at least touch onthem a little bit so that way
(59:41):
when we do one long form, youknow people will know a little
bit of something on it.
Speaker 5 (59:47):
There you go.
I'm glad I could help with that.
Speaker 3 (59:50):
Yeah, you bet.
So, oh, Rez, I don't know ifyou've heard any of our shows,
and it's okay if you haven't.
Most of our guests never did.
But we do a little thing at theend of our show.
It's called this or that, okay,and basically what that is is
that we get to know you just alittle bit, very superficially,
(01:00:14):
just just beneath the skin.
Yeah, okay, just a little bityeah, yeah, yep, we'll ask you
basically two questions and youjust tell us which one you like
the most.
Is that cool, this or that?
Huh?
Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
All right, this or that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
All right.
So if you're ready for this orthat, yeah, let's try it All
right.
Well, with that being said said, I have one more question, dw.
Yeah, you want me to take thethis or that, or do you have one
today?
Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
I think you did it last week, so I'll I'll I'll do
this week all right, I've got asheet ready here.
We're gonna start rotating, sonext one's mine next one's yours
and I'm expecting uh,excellence, excellence, baby.
Oh, we should do that sometime.
Yeah, we should, and actuallyno more seriously what I should
(01:01:11):
do no what I should do is uh, uh.
my daughter came up with somegood ones.
I keep forgetting to ask her.
She has some good ones wheneverwe do this, but this week, here
we go.
So would you rather read thebook or watch the movie?
Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Oh, that's a tough one.
I'd have to say watch the movie, and if the movie is good
enough, I'd have to read thebook then.
Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Okay, watch the movie , and if the movie is good
enough I have to read the book,then okay, so because of that,
would you rather watch an actionadventure or romantic comedy?
Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
action adventure all right beach or pool the beach
all right, would you rep andyou're?
Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
you're're from Wisconsin, so this applies.
Would you rather build asnowman or build a sandcastle?
Sandcastle, all right.
If you could time travel.
Would you rather travel back to1825 or forward to 2225?
(01:02:24):
1825.
Okay, Would you rather GhostHunt with the Ghostbusters or
Scooby-Doo and the gang?
Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
Oh no, oh, this is a tough one.
I'd say Scooby-Doo.
All right, kind of along thoselines.
Oh, this is a tough one, I'dsay Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
All right, kind of along those lines Comedy or
Shaggy or Shaggy.
Yeah, comedy or paranormal,paranormal.
Okay, christmas or Halloween.
Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Halloween Stay spooky .
Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
All right, we've got a barbecue.
Would you rather have a burgeror a brat?
Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
A brat Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Last one, john.
Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
Olsen or Jeffrey Dahmer?
Oh, I don't know, I'll go with.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Olsen.
I don't know if that's a win ora loss on that one.
Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
I don't know.
You had to think about it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Or Jeffrey Dahmer Dahmer knows.
I don't know.
I heard his taste in men wasterrible, oh gosh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
That was.
Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Well, I should say that is on par with the rest of
your material.
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Might as well throw a groaner in there.
Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Hey man.
Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
We stayed away from the native jokes all night.
Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
We did yes and I've got one, but I'm not going to
say it yet.
Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
They're going to offend me, so we're good.
Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
I feel like every comedian has a groaner, you know
.
I feel, like, as long as you'reokay with it, you should get
the reaction you want.
So it's okay to have a groaner,knowing that's going to be the
reaction if you're hoping towrite you know something with
enormous laughter, and it's agroaner.
Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
That's different I just write with mine, with the
expectation they're all groanersand whatever I come out of it,
I I get and it's great.
That's the way I look at it.
It's a reaction, it's somethingyeah.
It's what we're there for.
It's what we're there for.
It's the reaction, I don't know.
(01:04:54):
I haven't had anybodyoutrightly boo me.
I've never had anybody.
Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
Alright, so when's the next time you're going to be
standing?
Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
up.
He's coming to your show, andjust I can be the new hecklefish
here.
Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I can't remember.
Am I in Wisconsin?
Where am I?
Am I in Appleton?
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
I think I am.
Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
Last time I saw you were in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
He's not far away from Appleton.
He could come to that 15minutes away.
Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
There we go Great.
Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
And what would be great is if it's like enormous
laughter and just one lone boofrom the back row and he can't
see.
He's like who is that?
So don't tell him you're coming, I just want him to like you're
recognizing my voice orsomething.
Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
I know that voice.
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
That's that big ugly indian, damn it um, you know, I
hear enormous laughter and thenall of a sudden just hear boo I
think that'd be a great yeahthat would that would actually
be funny.
I don't know if I'd hold ittogether if I heard that.
To be fair.
Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
I'll be screaming in the background.
Do I get ravaged by a savage?
Oh, that would be good.
Get your boo buddy out.
Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
All right, yeah, good yeah, get your blue buddy out,
all right.
Yeah, we gotta go.
Before talking, that's a goodnote to end on double teaming
again, all right, uh, so bridge,he's my hetero life mate.
Hetero DW's my hetero life mate.
I wouldn't even say life mate.
So he's hetero that's it alright, anyways, hey man, I think we
(01:07:01):
put together a pretty goodlittle show here, entertaining
is now towards the end.
But no man, you're veryinformative.
Very, yeah, I like it.
I think people need to checkout Caps and you have a YouTube
right.
Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
Yeah yeah, wisconsin Caps on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
All right, watch their stuff.
Watch it Wisconsin Caps YouTube.
I might even put a link in theepisode description.
Yeah, appreciate it.
Well, like I said, you knowgood stuff.
Glad to have you, dw.
Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Always, always.
And, by the way, if you want toget a, here's the Thing t-shirt
, crowdmadecom, just search forSquares.
Always, always good seeing you,buddy, all right, anyways,
whatever, All right, alwaysalways good seeing you buddy
alright, anyways whateveralright.
Well, you know, I thinkeverybody knows what this means.
(01:08:10):
I know what this means.
It means that you guys havebeen amazing, we have been
scolarius and we are out Later.
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