Ep. 65 J-Root Beer, J-Skeletons, and J-Ghostly Japanese Lore: The Co-Ghosts

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Ever wondered what makes a forest so eerie that it becomes synonymous with spirits and shadows? Get ready to uncover the chilling mysteries of Aokigahara, Japan's infamous "suicide forest," known for its ghostly lore and haunting reputation. We share startling stories, from unsettling apparitions to mysterious wailing sounds, all while reflecting on the cultural nuances of Japanese ghost stories and how they differ from Western tales. It's a thrill lined with goosebumps as we navigate the forest's spine-tingling narratives and explore the preventive measures in place to deter its sinister allure.

Join us for a spooktacular journey where root beer anecdotes and Halloween hijinks pave the way for tales of haunted pasts and peculiar folklore. We dive into the world of Japanese urban legends like Yamamba and Kuchisaki Onna, mixing cultural curiosity with humor as we attempt to pronounce names and unravel the creepy essence of these stories. Our playful banter about Halloween decorations, and a chat with Harley (who owns a skeleton!), adds a whimsical touch of the bizarre as we gear up to tackle all things ghostly and mysterious.

We've also got a special treat for fans of the bizarre and funny: our "We're Not a Couple" t-shirt, inspired by one of our catch phrases as well as a shirt that was made from the laughs we've shared with John Olsen. Stay connected with us on social media, and don't forget to revisit past episodes as we continue to explore the weird and wonderful world of the paranormal. Whether you’re intrigued by Japanese hauntings or curious about the curious Okiku doll, this episode promises a rollercoaster of emotions, thrills, and a few chuckles along the way.

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Speaker 3 (01:27):
What's going on?
This is Scalarius, I am JohnOlson and with me, as always, is
DW, the dishonorable WasabiSerene.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
There.
Sorry, that's the best I coulddo.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
That was really lame.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Here.
Hold on, it's not a the best Icould do.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
That was really lame.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, I know, here hold on, it's not a can like I
normally have.
There you go.
So for the record, it is abottle and this is not your
father's root beer.
Good stuff.
It's all right.
Good, which is, yeah, it's allright.

(02:10):
Honestly, I I prefer justregular root beer.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
But this is pretty good.
It's pretty good.
I would prefer a root beer thatgets me drunk, so I like that
one honestly actually, um, I had, uh, some good root beer.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Uh, last weekend, not last weekend.
When was this?
Yeah, yeah, last weekend at uhshout out to saint paul brewery.
They have their own in-houseroot beer.
That's really good.
So whenever I go there, I liketo have a root beer, because
that's some good stuff.
Alcoholicy root beer nope, it'snon-alcoholic, but it's um.

(02:48):
What's?
What's unique about it is it'snot as like sweet as other root
beer.
So if you don't like how barksor a and w is just like too
syrupy and sweet and stuff likethat, this is a way better root
beer for you then.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I would like my root beer to be more beer, less root,
but you know I don't knowthat's you.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
You like your root beer to be more hallucinogenic,
less root.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that's true, I don't even have that.
Today I had a drink drinkingthe lemon lime.
Uh, thc soda today.
Good stuff, figured hell, whynot?
Might as well keep this shitrolling.
You know what I mean I've been.
I think I've been high for 56hours straight now, to be honest
, hours, I thought it'd be okay.

(03:51):
Well, I mean yeah so what elseis going on?
Dubs, how's things?

Speaker 4 (03:59):
um, things are good.
I finally, so I finally tookdown the uh halloween
decorations in the yard, and theonly reason it took so long is
the ground was frozen and it wasreally hard to get because
everything's staked in theground in some form.
So last weekend I finally hadthe time and the ground was warm

(04:24):
, and so I was able to geteverything out of there and took
took quite a while, and thenwhat was fun was, uh, the
inflatable stuff that I have wasstill kind of damp, so I
inflated it downstairs.
So then my basement was filledwith all these gigantic snowmen
and stuff like that, and it waskind of weird to see these

(04:44):
gigantic things in a small roomas opposed to outside, where
there's tons of room.
It was kind of fun, but anyway.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I was going to say your yard looked like the place
Halloween and Christmas went todie.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Well, and especially when they're not inflated.
Right Well and especially whenthey're not inflated, yeah, it
looks Well, and especially when.
So I find it funny, when Ifirst turn them on and they're
getting filled with air, itlooks like me in the morning,
just like gosh, you know.
And then when you turn them off, it just they just slowly sink

(05:23):
into the ground and I don't know, know, I find it hilarious.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
So anyway, so when you turn it on, it's like you.
When you turn it off, it's likeme, just slowly sinking into it
, I guess, yeah, all right, uh.
So if you guys are tuning inright now, you know that well,
maybe that last week we kind ofmentioned what we were doing

(05:50):
this week, last week when we hadHarley on, which was a
fantastic episode.
She is interesting as hell.
She has some stuff I meanthat's cool.
I've never I mean mean not yetthat was the first uh did an
interview with somebody who hada corpse, you know, just hanging

(06:11):
out right yeah, so, um, I mean,not a real.
There's a skeleton, not a.
I mean, okay, can you considerit a corpse?
Yeah, no, no, it's remains itsremains.
I guess so because still havelike skin or things on it maybe.

(06:36):
Yeah, I don't know it'sactually a corpse, I don't know.
Well, whatever, it doesn'tmatter.
Either way, it doesn't matterat this juncture.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
We don't need to dwell on it that much.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
No, we don't, yeah.
So we talked about what we weregoing to do this week and
basically, for those tuning in,you know that us here at
Scalarius, you know we areturning Japanese.

(07:12):
Oh yeah, we're turning Japanese.
I really think so.
Oh, scalarius turning Japanese,scalarius turning Japanese.
We really think so, oh oh.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
I was wondering how long it'd be before you did
something offensive that wasright.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
How's that offensive?
That's a song, by the way, asong that is completely and
utterly not what they think it'sabout.
Most people are like, oh, it'sabout masturbation, it's not.
It's about like somebody's likedescent into emotional distress
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I don't know, but yeah, okay, I I think uh doing a
japanese accent might be alittle offensive.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
I didn't do a japanese accent okay, well, I
didn't, I just said all rightall right, japanese, we're
turning japanese.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
We really think so.
Oh, scolari's turning japanese,clarity so anyway okay, all
right, okay, okay.
And we're doing this because,you know, obviously we have some
really cool new listeners overthere in the wonderful land of
the rising sun, japan, and youknow it got me thinking.

(08:27):
You know they're listening toour American ghost stories and
I'm sure they're probably veryinterested.
So it made me very interestedin the Japanese paranormal
stories.
So I started doing some diggingand we're going to get to that

(08:49):
here in just a little bit, butthere's some business that we
need to attend to first.
First of all, if, again, peoplewere listening to the end of
last week's episode, it happenedagain, didn't it?

Speaker 4 (09:10):
one of my uh favorite moments.
Yes, uh came again.
Um, yes, I, I it.
I don't know what I think.
The first time it happened itwas just so unexpected, and so
that's what made it so funny.
Second time, though, still good.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Because you've been waiting for it.
You've been waiting for it fora while.
You've been waiting for itsince the first one happened.
Well, because every time sincethen that's been a question I've
asked, waiting for it to happenagain and we're talking about
John asked, waiting for it tohappen again, and we're talking
about, uh, john olsen or whoeverright, it's one of our this or

(09:53):
that questions john olsen orzach baggins, john olsen or
jeffrey dahmer, john olsen orted kaczynski, john olsen or
whatever?
Um, some horrible human beingin me, and you get to choose
which one you like want to hangout with, driving a car with I
don't know, have some THC with Idon't know, whatever it is, but

(10:14):
that's what they choose.
And lo and behold, the questionwas asked again and the answer
was I have no idea who eitherone of them are I think it was.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
I have no idea who john olsen is, so they end up
picking the other person becausethey don't know who john olsen
is.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
So either way, either way, either way.
And I said at that moment man,this is gonna be a t-shirt, and
it is, and you can get thatt-shirt at crowdmadecom forward
slash collections, forward slashscolarius pod.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
And you can get it in a t-shirt or a hoodie.
Yep, you can also get.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
We are not a couple oh, that's a new one too.
Yeah, in a t-shirt or a hoodie.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Um, apparently I say here's the thing a lot, and so
you can get that on a t-shirt ora hoodie.
You can get beanies with alittle fuzzy, you can get coffee
cups, hats, mugs and, of course, hellhound uh leashes and
collars.
And wait a second, and don't wehave and water dish yep, and

(11:38):
the pet bowl absolutely.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
or, if you want to, if you have like, say, you're
drinking a THC drink like me, oryou're drinking a hard root
beer like DW, and you have toput that thing down.
When you put it down, you don'twant to put it down on your
table, right, you don't want todo that because it's going to
cause a ring.
You know, your mom or yourgrandma, they've been saying

(12:01):
that for years.
Like, don't put it on the table, it's going to cause a ring.
So you have to get coasters.
Well, we don't sell coasters.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
We sell coasters.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Oh nice, yeah, Scalerius coasters, that's right
.
You can get that also atcrowdmadecom forward slash
collections, forward slashScalerius pod.
Go there, Get anything you want, but you should.
You should get our t-shirts,especially the we're Not a

(12:36):
Couple one.
I think that one's probably thebest one.
That's my favorite, but I couldsee everybody getting that.
I have no idea who John Olsenone is too.
So I mean, either way, we'd behappy if we go there and get
that stuff.
Don't you think We'd be happy?
People wearing Scalarius stuff,and then people are like what's

(12:56):
Scalarius?
And then people have to explainwhat Scalarius is, and then we
get more listens and all thingslike that.
You know that's what we wantright.
Yeah, absolutely.
And say that you're justhanging out one night and you're
listening to Scalarius andyou're like, you know, I wonder

(13:21):
what DW is doing and I wonderwhat DW is doing and I wonder
what John's doing.
Well, you can find out and allyou have to do is just go to DW
Serene Comedian on Facebook.
Go to John Olson, comedian 2.0,on Facebook.
You can find us both togetheron Facebook.

(13:45):
You can find us both togetheron Facebook, but we're not a
couple.
We're not a couple.
No, that's at the Scalariuspage.
Also, hit us up, scalarius onInstagram.
Send us an email ScalariusPodat gmailcom.
And if you want, I mean ifyou're already listening to

(14:06):
ScaleriusPod at gmailcom, and ifyou want, I mean if you're
already listening to Scalerius.
That's one thing, but if youwant, you can go back to listen
to every single episode we have.
That's atbuzzsproutscaleriuspodcom, or
it's actuallyscaleriuspodbuzzsproutcom.
See, you know what?

(14:26):
I second guessed myself, and Ishould know, because I had it
right the first time.
Either way, go there, hit us up, you know.
Uh, I would insert dusty roadsimpersonation today, but I feel
there are people that are stillangry about the last few

(14:46):
episodes so I'm just gonna letit go all
right today, all right.
So I figure we might as wellget going on this, because, you
know, we I mean I don't knowpeople probably want to know,
like, what are some really cooljapanese paranormal stories?

(15:08):
Well, all I can find is likejapanese paranormal legends,
which are pretty cool, and we'regonna touch on some other
things, like maybe a forest thatpeople kill themselves in, and
probably some movies that all ofyou have heard about.
Um, that may, may or may not,have inspired movies over here

(15:34):
in america.
So I guess everybody shouldjust buckle up because, uh,
again, dw, get your ticket baby.
Alright.
Cause we're going to Japan.
Alright, let's go, alright,alright.
So A lot of stories, a lot ofreally cool stories, and I don't

(15:56):
know If they talk about them asmuch over there.
I'm completely and utterlyUnfamiliar, so this is just as
much over there.
I'm completely and utterlyunfamiliar.
So this is just as much alearning episode as it is a
storytelling episode.
So if people could, especiallyour listeners in Japan, could,

(16:22):
let us know, like, what's thedealio over there?
Do you guys talk about it?
Is it talked about a lot?
I mean, these stories, are they, you know, like they are over
here, like told around thecampfire?
you know all that good stuff.
Are there legends that you knowyour, your, your parents that

(16:44):
tell you like, hey, don't go?
Are there legends that you knowyour, your, your parents that
tell you like, hey, don't goover there because this might
happen, don't go here becausethat might happen?
You know, we want to know andyou know how you can tell us?
That is, just reach out, gointo the episode and it says hey
, you know, send your co-ghostsan email, whatever, click there

(17:05):
and just let us know what'sgoing on.
Yeah, so that's you.
That's you guys over there inthe land of the rising sun
Talking to you specifically.
All right, dw, so what do youwant to hear about?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
first, Well, we were talking about.
I know you wanted to do thislater, but one of the things we
talked about was the forest thatis has been come to be known as
suicide forest, yep, um, butalso called and um.

(17:40):
My japanese is not the best,but but Aokigahara.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Aokigahara, which is on the west face of Mount Fuji.
If I believe right, Is thatwhat it said?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Northwest.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Northwest.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Okay, and in terms of suicides, it's debated how many
nowadays.
So part of it is they've stoppedreporting how many because they
don't want it to be known forthat, because they don't want it

(18:21):
to be known for that, and theyfeel that's making it worse,
saying hey, we're the mostpopular place to kill yourself,
type of thing, but we're talkinglike 50 to 100 a year yeah,

(18:42):
roughly yeah.
A year, yeah, roughly yeah, andit's hard to say if that's gone
down or anything again becausethey're not reporting it, but
it's been.
It's a lot and I can't imagineso.
One of the things they say isthat every year they do a search

(19:03):
for bodies by the police,volunteers, journalists, such
and such.
I can't imagine doing that,knowing there's a good chance
you're gonna find dozens yeahyou know or?
hundreds or I would assume.
I mean, I'm guessing this isthe yearly search.

(19:25):
They probably find somethroughout the year, but knowing
there's a good chance you'regoing to find something, that
would be I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I don't know if I could do that did you happen to
see what the main cause of deathwas?

Speaker 4 (19:38):
um, uh, uh.
Where does it say it?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
um, I believe it's hanging and drug overdoses.
So I mean, obviously they'renot saying they don't stab
themselves, but that's happenedin there too and I didn't see a
whole lot.
I mean we kind of dug a littlebit into it.
I didn't see a whole lot aboutfirearms, but I mean, maybe it's

(20:10):
a different land over there andI'm not saying they don't have
guns because they do, but maybetheir rights to have them are
not like ours.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
That's my assumption, I just think.
I think we not like it'simpossible to get them, but I
just feel like the us has adifferent view right towards
guns, and hence why police inother countries don't always

(20:48):
carry firearms.
Ours do, because they have to,because they're probably going
up against someone who has a gun.
In a lot of other countries,though they don't have, they
don't carry around weapons likethat.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
So bring a knife to a gunfight, exactly.
So this forest is really nice,very pretty.
Yeah, it's a place where peopleobviously can bike and walk and
all that stuff, and so thisstuff is happening in there
because it's really dense, and Ithink it's because of the the

(21:26):
lack of well, because it is sodense, you can't really see
everything that that's obviouslygoing on.
Ah, but on the trails theystarted putting up uh signs
saying hey, if you're coming inhere, like don't, don't do this.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Turn around.
If you're coming in here likedon't, don't do this, turn
around, go back, think of yourfamily, stuff like that.
And I think I thought I readsomewhere that like I don't know
if they have oh, and to contacta suicide prevention
organization so it's safe to saythat the numbers went down, but

(22:05):
I don't think they went downincredibly yeah and I think that
is that's part of why they haveto do these searches, because
forest there's so much greenery,that your body falls over and

(22:32):
it's hidden from the leavesuntil someone is specifically
looking for it, and because allthe suicides.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
The forest is supposedly extremely haunted um
yeah a lot of tales in there,like you know, crying, wailing,
uh, people seeing, uhapparitions, uh, you know things
like that and I don't know man,I I hate to say this, but it's

(23:09):
going to sound but they do ghostdifferently over there.
They freak me the hell out.
It's not like I don't know ifit's um more realistic.
Uh, people have seen horrormovies that are produced in
japan and you know how they'reall like twitchy and shit like
that and whatever.
Like, I mean, I've seenapparitions and they do kind of

(23:33):
look like that, but not quitelike it's.
Uh, I don't know.
Yeah, it's, it's a.
It's a different type of creepy, for sure.
So people in America might knowthis forest for a different

(23:54):
reason, and it's probablybecause of our friend Logan Paul
Yep.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Was it back in?
Was it 2017?
Yep, um well, so, uh, actually,he uploaded it january 2018,
january 1st okay.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
So obviously this is what almost got him completely
and utterly just done.
Um, because he uploaded a videoof a person swinging from a
tree, essentially, um, well, uh,well, he was that video.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, um it.

(24:43):
It got him in a lot of trouble,obviously.
Obviously, he has nothing toworry about now.
He's probably right on top, oneof the biggest podcasters.
I mean, it's Rogan and Paul upthere.
There's a few others in between, but whatever he's up there and
obviously I mean, if you wantto look at you know, whatever,

(25:05):
he's a WWE superstar too, sohe's doing pretty good for
himself.
I feel he kind of put theSuicide Force behind him, but at
the time, yeah, got a lot ofheat for that.
Yeah, got a lot of heat forthat.
Yeah, because obviously thepolice were basically taking

(25:37):
this person down and he'srecording it and putting it on
YouTube for the world to see.
And obviously I think it wasblurred to a point, but still,
family wasn't even notified yet.
You know things like that, andI believe, um, the police
department there was, uh, quiteupset about it too.
I think he got himself in awhole lot of trouble.
Um, I know that he had sponsorslike pull out and things like

(25:59):
that during that time.
Uh, like I said, he's doingreally well now.
So I mean you could do somemessed up shit and still come
out of it, okay, apparently, uh,we're not gonna try that.
Here are we.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I'm not no, you speak for yourself, but I'm not going
to that's.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, we're not gonna do that here, all right, we're
just gonna do the stuff and tryto entertain as as best as we
possibly can baby um.
So yeah, that that's.
I mean I don't know how far wewant to go in, how far we want
to go into the forest, um, but Imean that's, it is a a big deal

(26:40):
over there.
It's that one.
There's like one in romania.
I know it has nothing to dowith japan, it's that one and
there's like one in Romania.
I know it has nothing to dowith Japan right now, but I
believe there's another likekind of suicide forest or
whatever in in Romania thatthat's similar to or has similar
stories or whatever to.
Um, how do you, how do you sayit again?

(27:00):
Oh, ye, wait, hang on Romania.
Oh, you got Hara.
Yeah, how do you say it again?
Ogi, wait, hang on Romania.
Ogi, gahara, yeah, somethinglike that.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
I'm looking up.
So this came about.
I'm looking at a site ofsuicide locations site of
suicide locations, and I cameacross that by looking up, um
the golden gate bridge, becauseI knew that was up there.
I I couldn't remember if it wasthe most or second most and

(27:38):
again, not knowing how manypeople uh die each year in the
um sea of trees, it's hard tosay which one is.
Uh, um, I, you, you might bethinking of a different country,
because romania isn't pullingup anything oh okay, well, fair

(27:59):
enough.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
If I'm wrong, I'm sure somebody will call me out
on it, and that's absolutelyfine.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
I'm cool with that you said it was a forest or yeah
, yeah, pretty sure.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, I know the, the queen consort knows where it is
, not because she's been thereor wants to go, but because
she's.
You know she's into this stuffjust like I am, and I know we we
discussed it.
I'm pretty sure it's in romania, um, or a country adjacent to
it.
Now I don't know because youknow borders change, you know

(28:32):
things happen I'm seeing what,uh uh, oh, uh but forest.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah, sometimes called the Bermuda Triangle of
Transylvania oh, there it is.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
It's in Romania, right?
I mean that's Transylvania,yeah yeah, all right, so anyways
in the West City, transylvania.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, okay, all right .
So Anyways In the West Citynear opener section of
Transylvania, forces counterrecreation biking.
What does it say about?
It doesn't say, geez.
What the heck.
Doesn't say anything here aboutum?

(29:28):
It has been featured on ghostadventures, though uh see, you
know good old zach going overthere doing his thing uh

Speaker 3 (29:38):
you know, maybe it's not haunted, maybe Maybe Zack
just went over there and justover-dramatized everything.
The tree, the tree moved, andoh Aaron, look out the tree.
I don't do a good Zack Bagginsimpersonation.
So I mean, who would havethought, yeah, all right, let's

(30:02):
move on?
Hey, we can go back to the Susuicide forest if we circle back
around and whatever.
But I just wanted to get acouple other things.
You know a couple of thesestories that I found, I wrote
down and yeah.
So I guess there's the story ofYamamba, yamamba, yamamba.

(30:25):
Okay, so basically, thisBuddhist was out wandering the
woods and got caught in a stormand this nice old woman kind of
said hey, why don't you come inand warm up?
So this Buddhist a monk, Ibelieve, uh, it was a priest,

(30:47):
buddhist priest, so buddhistmonk, is it the same buddhist
monk, buddhist priest, I don'tknow name, different.
Okay, whatever, they went inand they were chilling out and
uh, basically, he's like hey,thank you for letting me in,
yada, yada.
The old lady's like okay, not aproblem, here's your food, stay

(31:10):
warm.
Just do me a favor, no matterwhat, do not look in the back
room.
And just like everyone else,when somebody says don't look.
What do you want to do?
yeah curiosity always kills thecat.
Um well, basically, the thepriest was extremely curious and

(31:31):
, um, he, just, he didn't care,he didn't, uh, he didn't care
what the old lady said, and hewent to take a peek in the back
room and, uh, so he discovered aroom full of half eaten corpses
hmm, and it this priestrealized oh my god, this is

(31:58):
Yamamba, and Yamamba basically,um, they lure, apparently.
It lures, uh, unsuspectedtravelers into their lair and
then it eats them.
Okay.
The priest got away.
If the priest didn't get away,wouldn't be hearing this story.

(32:22):
But the priest got away, um, hedidn't, and apparently never
looked back.
So, uh, that's, that's one.
That that is yamamba.
So if anybody else has anystories about yamamba, any of
their own personal stories aboutYamamba, hit us up, let us know

(32:46):
.
But that is, yeah, some priestbasically was like hey, buddhist
priest, buddhist monk, see, I'dlike to know Same or different.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Priest and monk?
I'm not sure.
I think they're different.
I don't think they have priests.
I think they have monks.
I don't think they have priests.
I think they have monks.
I don't think they have priestsin that denomination.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
The question is is like, okay, if it's like, I mean
, is it like a higher rank, likeum, like I don't know, do they
call them like the exalted oneor you know, whatever?
You know what I'm saying.
I know that there's.
You remember back watching AceVentura when nature calls, and

(33:32):
he was in the Buddhist temple.
So obviously there was a higherup like a main Buddha.
I'm not a Buddhist and Iapologize Sincerely, people, if
you know, let us know.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
It's like some higher up ranking, right, but I don't
think I don't, I don't know, butI don't think the term is
priest, but I'm not sure don'tknow.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Either way, the priest got away from the yamamba
and he was able to tell thetale, so that's how I was able
to read it.
Because of that priest or monk,or whatever, um another, these
are.
Some of these are really hardto pronounce.
I'm not gonna lie, I'm not.
I'm not great with english ingeneral, but then have to learn

(34:15):
something in japanese.
It's even worse.
This one's called, well,basically a story of OIWA.
Oiwa, o-i-w-a.
Oiwa O-I-W-A OIWA OIWA.

(34:39):
Anyway, you're taking Japanese.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
So Doesn't mean I'm, I'm trying yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, okay.
So let's just say you're right.
And it's Uiwa.
Okay, uiwa was a stunning,beautiful woman and she was
married to a samurai, but he wasreally petty, very petty.
He basically only loved herbecause she was hot.
Okay, really petty, very petty.

(35:09):
He basically only loved herbecause she was hot, okay, um.
And then there was anotherwoman, uh, uime, okay, she was
madly in love with the samurai,madly in love, and basically
this uime uh was jealous of uiwa, anyway, and then gave her this
cream that had poison in itwhich fucked up her face Like an

(35:32):
eye popped out, she lost herhair.
She looked like Gollum, okay,like, imagine, like my precious.
You know, like that, like shelooked horrible, and obviously
the petty-ass samurai decided,hey, I don't want to have
anything to do with this anymore.
If I'm going to hit anything,I'm not hitting that.
And then he's like you'reouttie.

(35:53):
And then he ends up hooking upwith the other chick, the Uyime.
So basically I don't know, uh,he, he got rid of her, hooked up
with what we made or whateverelse.
And then this, this samuraihires his friend to rape the uh

(36:20):
okay and um okay and um, andthen basically rapers.
So he would have grounds fordivorce.
Because therefore, you know,adultery means, you know,
whatever, even if it's forced,even if it's forced, it's still
adultery, I guess, in their mind.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
I'm just saying I would think so.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Well, yeah, Because I mean yeah, Adultery is having
sex with someone who is not yourspouse.
Yep.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
All right.
So this friend was going to doit, but he was so shocked by the
way she looked he couldn't.
He couldn't do it.
But basically, this guy showedOiwa her own face in the mirror

(37:28):
and when he showed her face toher.
She took his sword and killedherself.
And when she did that, in herdying breath she cursed the
samurai's name.
Okay, so on the night of thesamurai's remarriage to that

(37:50):
oima right, the ghost of thedisfigured oiwa, oiwa, oiwa,
anyway, appeared before him.
He was terrified and he quicklyfled.
But no matter how far he ran,ran, he couldn't escape her
hauntings.
So she just followed him, kindof like the movie it follows,
but it was her um yeah.

(38:10):
So after that night, no matterwhere lemon looked, even in the
very lanterns, he used thelightest path he would see her
face staring back at him.
He was cursed forever Lookingat her.
Crazy huh.
Yeah yep.

(38:32):
And then there's the woman ofthe snow, yuki Anna.
Yuki Onna, y-u-k-i-o-n-n-a.
Yuki ono ono, I think it'sbetter to let you struggle that

(38:53):
I really you think that is thatmore entertaining than just
knowing it yeah, yeah, yeah ofcourse it is for you for me, I
mean I'm sure a few listenersagree uh, I'm sure they do.
Um, anyways, this guy was likegoing through the snow, whatever
else, and he was.

(39:13):
He was freezing.
He was freezing to death andsince there wasn't any tauntauns
to rip open and keep himselfwarm um and throw that in there,
didn, didn't you?
I did.
Why not Gotta throw a Star Warsreference in somewhere?
I haven't had one for a longtime.
We haven't had a Star Warsreference for a while.
Yeah.
Might as well.
Do it now.
Why not?
To be fair, Star Wars wasinspired by Buck Rogers serials

(39:39):
and samurai movies, so in a wayit kind of fits In a way.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
In a way.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Alright.
So this guy was going throughand he nearly froze to death,
but then he saw a woman appearand she was like all frost, like
frozen and basically like Idon't know the thing, like took

(40:12):
pity on him and it took it to awarm cabin saving his life.
But in exchange for the rescue,she made a promise never to
tell anyone of their meeting.
For the rescue, she made apromise never to tell anyone of
their meeting.
Well, obviously, right, ifwe're hearing it, then somebody
you know didn't.
Uh, yeah, anyway, years laterthe guy married a charming young

(40:35):
girl named yuki and they livedhappily together for many years.
But one day the young man toldhis wife about how he was once
saved by the mysterious yuki onabreaking his promise.
As he reveals this tale to hiswife, her face grew pale and the
frost began to change her body.
His wife's true identity wasthe yuki ona.

(40:57):
The promise broken, shevanished back into winter's
night and he dead.
I don't know if he really diedor not, but I just figured it
would be really fun to say thathe had died.
So here's one that I think isreally cool and it kind of leads

(41:20):
into different things.
It's called the Black Hair.
So here's one that I think isreally cool and it kind of leads
into different, you knowdifferent things.
Um, it's called the black hair,okay, and once upon a time an
impoverished samurai was livingin kyoto kyoto, I think he
actually got that one kyotokyoto okay, with his wife, a

(41:41):
wealthy lord from one kyoto.
Kyoto okay, with his wife.
A wealthy lord from a distantland invited the samurai to be
his vassal.
I don't know what the hell thatis.
Anyway, because he was such anhonor, but it was such an
honorable opportunity, he had nochoice but to accept leaving
his wife to wait in poverty athome until he returned.
As you can tell, that'sprobably not a good idea.
Just throw it out there.

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Years later, having, uh,dutifully served his lord, the
samurai finally returned home tokyoto.
Although his house was indisrepair, his wife was still
there to happily welcome himhome.
Finally reunited, the two spentthe entire night talking and
laughing together beforedrifting off to sleep.
When the samurai awoke, thewarmth he had felt just the

(42:26):
night before from having hisarms wrapped around his loving
wife was no longer there.
Instead, he opened his eyes tosee what he was holding a half
cold, a cold skeleton, shroudedin long black hair.
The samurai learned his wifepassed away from sadness the
summer before, but her skeletonhad remained in the house for

(42:47):
all the while, waitingfaithfully for his return.
Hmm.
Kind of weird.
Yeah.
That's a weird one, but thelong black hair reminded me of
something you remember the moviethe Ring.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
I remember it, I never saw it, you never seen.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
The Ring Dude.
Well, anyway, the Ring wasbasically the American version
of the Japanese movie Ringu.
And yeah, it's badass, Renew.
And yeah, it's badass.
It's about a girl who justbasically curses a videotape,

(43:34):
you know, and then you watch itand seven days later you die.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
I mean, I remember the premise, I just never saw it
.
In fact, I I wasn't part oftheir marketing to like leave uh
videotapes just randomly inplaces yeah, yep, it was.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
So, yeah, it was.
Uh, I don't know, it's prettybadass, but anyway, the, the
girl with the long black hairthere, kind of, you know, made
me, uh, think of the ringu movie, so to speak.
Um, yeah, what do you think ofthe stuff so far?

(44:18):
Dw?

Speaker 4 (44:19):
I mean they're, they're very interesting stories
.
They are, you know, you kind oftreat.
I kind of treat them the sameway as a lot of the other ghost
stories we hear where it's like,well hard to back that up, but
um, obviously the legends andthe the uh um folklore, whatever

(44:47):
you want to call it is, isinteresting.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
So it is uh, and it goes like forever.
There's so many, so many, andmost of these I don't know if
you notice the the theme hereand maybe it's the theme in all
of that that's paranormal.
A lot of this is women.
They're sad women, they'relonely women or they're women

(45:11):
who've been scorned.
You see the theme there.
Yeah.
Okay, same thing with over here,right?
Usually, nine times out of ten,like you know, somebody in a
hotel dies.
What is it?
It's a woman who is just indespair because her lover never
came to see her, or you, youknow what I'm saying.

(45:32):
I'm not saying there aren'tmale ghosts.
We know this.
We know that there are maleghosts.
But, right, you hear thesetales like, for instance, for
instance, you know the Hispanictale of La Llorona, right?
The Wailing Woman.
So there's a lot of them, andit's just the theme continues on

(45:55):
.
Because here's one, the SlitMouth Woman, which this one's
hard for me to pronounce, andagain you want to's hard for me
to pronounce.
And again, you want to take theentertainment value in this.
Hear me trying to pronounceJapanese without doing the Pat
Morita impersonation I do, whichI'm not going to do.
This episode, maybe next weekWe'll see.
But anyway, slip Mouth Woman isKuchisaki Onna, kuchisaki Onna,

(46:21):
kuchisaki Onna, and I'll spellit for you and you tell me if
that's exactly what it isKuchisaki Onna,
k-u-c-h-i-s-a-k-e-o-n-n-a.
No.
It's not.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
I'll just leave it at that.
You got it wrong.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Is that the same car, by the way?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
It is the same car, but everybody's hearing the car
alarm in the back.
There were shots fired earlier,but no big deal, but the car
alarm is going off now.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Really, the car alarm is what you have a problem with
.
The shots fired wasn't a bigdeal, but the car alarm shut
that off.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
We don't have shots fired wasn't a big deal, but the
car alarm shut that off.
We don't have shots fired.
I'm rich, dw, I live in a richarea.
I don't have the shots firedover here.
What do you think this is?
Yeah, that's basically WhiteBear Lake.
Baby, this isn't NorthMinneapolis.
Anyways, what?
Just saying, just throwing itout there.
Just saying, just turn outthere.

(47:27):
Anybody needs to know.
I do not think NorthMinneapolis is any worse than
anyplace else.
I am just going by statisticsand statistics say nine times
out of ten you're gonna hear agunshot in North Minneapolis.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
just run it out there right and that that's on you,
I'm I don't know, is that onealone?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
okay?
yeah anyway, uh, the the namethat I obviously just absolutely
butchered, according to dw is awoman with a surgical mask and
a grotesque slit mouth and sheterrorizes unsuspecting
individuals.
And basically what she does isshe'll say am I pretty?

(48:06):
And then you answer yes, right.
Then she takes off her mask andshe says how about now?
And if you say no, you'refucked, but if you say yes, well
, you're still not very good inthe law, run.
But that's basically how itgoes.

(48:27):
It's similar to like, well, notsimilar to, but same premise
wise.
It's like bloody mary, right,bloody mary yeah, you know I
mean same thing, only she's incharge.
She's asking you hey, am Ipretty?
You're like hell yeah.
And then she lowers her maskand she has the.

(48:52):
Glasgow scars.
We're talking like Heath Ledgerand Joan.
She's probably like am I prettynow?
Similar to that.
That's probably like like whatshe's doing anyways?
Um, yeah, that has also turnedinto like a movie.
You could actually see it onnetflix if you want to amazon.

(49:13):
Um, but there's so manyvariations of the legend.
Uh, she offers candy to uhpotential victims, which is
funny in its own right.
You know, like, don't get intothe van, but here's candy to
tell me I'm pretty, which iskind of kind of hilarious.
Um, and those who refusebasically just meet a grisly

(49:37):
fate and and that could be jesusanything uh, she ripped off a
kid's hand, supposedly for notdoing it.
Um, yeah, so, uh, we alreadytalked about the, the yuki onna.
I'd say I did it right.
That time you go.
Um, there's, I don't.

(49:59):
There's so much that Oiwa, wetalked about her.
See, I'm starting to think thatmaybe these stories are just
it's all folklore you know whatI mean.
Like, see, we have Bloody MaryIn Japan, they have Honoko-san,

(50:26):
and basically I would assume yousay Honoko-san three times into
the mirror and she appears.
Yeah, there's quite a bit ofthat stuff.
Let me see what else we got.
Who's the winner of the day sofar?

(50:52):
What do you think the storythat you would think would be
the one that scares you the most?
Dw?
I don't know the the scary faceis are you talking about the one

(51:17):
I just talked about?
Are you know there's I meanthere's a few more we could
obviously hit on.
I'm not, I don't know.
I don't find any of them thatthat creepy Again.

(51:40):
Like tales from over here, theyseem like they are meant to
teach you another lesson.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Yeah well, and I feel like they're as creepy as the
stories we tell over here.
It's just a matter of whetheror not you believe it.
Like the whole Bloody Marything is creepy if it's real,
but it's a story that you telllate at night around the
campfire to try and scare people.
But it's not necessarily real.

(52:11):
Which in in that regard?
Like oh, I'm trying to scareyou, you know, I'm just making
up stuff, so it sounds creepy,but it's.
How creepy is it really?
If you don't believe it, Idon't know I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
You want to hear about the ghost, the ghost of
okiku, okay, okay, okiku was aservant who lived in hamiji
castle.
Okay, and one of her, okay, andone of her servants.
I mean one of her servants.
One of her tasks was to carefor her master's collection of

(52:50):
10 valuable plates.
Okay, one day, while washingthe plates, one was missing.
She realized like, oh no, nomatter how many times she
counted, one came up short.
Her master was so enraged thatshe lost the plate that he threw

(53:11):
her down a well.
So I'm assuming it was not ashort well, it killed her.
My assumption, that's myassumption.
I her.
Okay, my assumption, that's myassumption.
I don't know, I don't know, Idon't know, that's my assumption
.
But oh, anyway, here we go,just murder by brutality.

(53:32):
Ukiku's soul could not rest.
Every night her ghost crawledout of the well.
Again ring, okay, it continuedcounting the master's plates.
She would count to nine.
Then, upon realizing the tenthplate was gone, she would let
out an ear-piercing shriek.
Okay, ukiku's screams kepteveryone in the castle up all

(53:54):
night for weeks on end, until aBuddhist priest finally appeased
her.
It's the second time we talkedabout a buddhist priest today, I
feel there are yeah, there mustbe all right so again, uh, I
know you haven't seen the ring,but obviously there's
similarities to you know thestory because, uh, samara, who

(54:19):
is the I guess ghost or whateverin the ring, crawls out of a
well after you.
Well, you know, after you watchthe tape.
There's also, like the PeonyLante.
I know what peonies are.

(54:39):
I guess some people might callthem peonies I don't know the
exact way to say it, but Ialways say peony and since I
always say it, I'm going toassume that I'm right.
Okay, so this samurai his namewas, oh, okay, o-g-i-w-a-r-a.

(55:09):
Okay, see, I love it how you'reschooling me.
He's judging me as I'm doingthis.
It's funny, I can see his face.
Nobody else can.
I can see his face when I'mdoing this, and he's funny, I
can see his face.
Nobody else can.
I can see his face when I'mdoing this and he's like I can
tell when I'm right.
Let's just say that Becausehe's like okay, yep, you got it.
But anyway, he spotted Ohari.

(55:32):
Okay, she was carrying a peonylantern wandering through the
streets of Idu.
Is that correct?
Do you know what edu is?
Do you know where edu is?
Where is?
that I have no idea.
It's obviously in japan, rightokay I, I don't know.
Um, anyway, for okihara it waslove at first sight.

(55:54):
Uh, he invited the, invited thehottie, you know, back to the
house.
Whatever they talked, theylaughed, they enjoyed watching
each other's company.
I'm assuming they bumped uglies, I'm assuming I, I can't, you
can't, you don't know, you don'tknow.
It is it's date, it's datenumber one.
It's a possibility, though, justthrowing it out there all right

(56:16):
if they hit it off, okay it,I'm just, I'm throwing this.
I I didn't go too far ahead,but I'm sure it wasn't like you
know.
Like they talked, they laughed,he walked her to the door, they
kissed.
Date number two was evengreater.
It doesn't say any of that I'mjust assuming, okay, uh, anyway.

(56:40):
That night ogiwara's neighborokay, uh, hearing eerie laughter
coming from ogiwara's gardenpeeked over the wall.
He saw ogiwara holding not awoman but a laughing skeleton.
Okay, okay, you are going here.
What's's happening?
Maybe, huh, okay.

(57:02):
Ogibara's neighbor revealed tohim the next morning that he had
seen Horrified Ogibara wentseeking advice from the priest
at the nearby temple, anotherBuddhist priest baby.
To his shock, ogibara foundOtsuyu's grave at the temple.

(57:25):
He realized that the woman hehad fallen in love with the
night before had died longbefore they had even met.
Now that Ogiwara knew the truth, otsuyu's ghost no longer
appeared before him.
But, even after discovering thetruth.
Ogiwara missed Otsuyudesperately.
This is where it gets goodlonger appeared before him.
But even after discovering thetruth, oh, you are missed, let's
so you desperately.
This is where it gets good.

(57:46):
At some time, he could nolonger bear his sadness and
return to the temple where it'syou lay buried at the temple
gates.
Oh so you appeared before himonce more, reaching out her hand
.
She askedgiwara to accompanyher home.
Without hesitation, ogiwaratook her hand, walking with her

(58:07):
into the darkness.
After this final visit to thetemple, ogiwara vanished.
The priest concerned openedOtsuyu's grave.
Inside the coffin lay twobodies Ogiwara and Otsuyu
together forever.
Yeah, ogubara and Otsuyutogether forever.
Yeah, see, I knew it.
I knew it.
It didn't take long.

(58:29):
I couldn't be without her.
I knew right then.
And there he's digging thatbody up.
That's what I was thinking.
He was digging that body up andhe was going to do some funky
shit to that body.
That was my thought at first.
What I read didn't help thescenario any, because that's

(58:51):
kind of what I feel happened.
They just left out details.
Yeah.
No, you don't think so.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Again, it's one of those stories that sounds creepy
, but who knows it?
It's hard to prove one way orthe other are you creeped up by
that story?
No, I mean it like I say, itjust feels.
Feels like those stories thatyou tell to little kids late at

(59:26):
night to make them scared.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Yeah, so they don't get up in the middle of the
night, wander around, get asnack, all that shit.
Essentially, For whateverreason yeah, I can see that.
I can see that.
So I mean those.
You know, those are pretty muchthe stories that came out of it
.
Like I said, I think more ofthe real hauntings is what I'm

(59:53):
really interested in and I'mhaving a hard time finding
actual paranormal events thatare happening in Japan.
Now, I know they happen, I justdon't know how it's talked about
, discussed it.
You know, in all that stuff Iwould assume that they have
paranormal groups over there.
But, like I said, you thinkyeah like I said, I'm having a
really hard time, uh, as I wasdigging, trying to find actual

(01:00:19):
paranormal events with whatever,with the exception of the
suicide forest, which has a lotof events that have occurred
yeah not.
I mean um, besides the actual um, you know things that, uh, that

(01:00:41):
have happened, meaning um.
Well, you know things that, uh,that have happened, meaning um,
well, you know the deathsthemselves, um, if there is
someone in Japan that's part ofa paranormal group.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Um, if you're listening to this and and we'd
be willing to I mean we have ourusual time that we record we'd
be willing to.
I mean we have our usual timethat we record I'd be willing to
.
You know, stay up till one inthe morning to make a, because
it's you know, it's 11 am overthere, so if there's you know a
time that works out better forthem, we can work it into our

(01:01:19):
schedule, no problem absolutely,I get, I can figure that stuff
out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
I most definitely would.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Uh, I yeah because we , we, we had.
There was one time was it uh,australia, or who was it that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
like australia we had .
She was um she was up to likein the wee hours of the morning.
Yeah, and I think.
Well is.
It is hawaii six hours earlierthan us, or are they late?
No, yeah they're earlier yeahwait, yeah, they're earlier.

(01:01:59):
So when we were recording withum, with ray, it was like one in
the afternoon there yeah yeah,so I know we were kind of like
into things, but there's ajapanese you know japanese urban
legends, so I figured we'd gointo that too.
And and you can have a littlefun with the way that I

(01:02:25):
pronounce these How's that sound, okay, aki?
Oh shit, I already messed thatup.
I did, I knew it right.
Right, because it's A-K-A, notA-K-I.
Akamanto means red cloak.
Basically it's Akamanto is amale spirit who dons a red cloak

(01:02:53):
and mask and is said to hauntschool and public restrooms,
with a particular fondness forthe last stall in the women's
bathroom.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
What a weirdly specific thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
I know Once you're seated in the stall, you will
hear a male voice.
Ask if you want red or bluepaper.
Okay.
Use your words carefully.
If you say red paper, you willmeet a bloody end.
If you say blue paper, you willbe suffocated to death until

(01:03:30):
you are blue.
If you try to confuse thespirit by asking for a different
color paper, you will bedragged into hell.
To avoid a brutal end atAkimoto's hand, simply refuse
his offer and run.
That was oddly specific.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Right, like the last stall, yep.
So I wonder if kind of like thewhole number 13 thing, like how
people have a fear of that, forno, there's actually no
substantial reason for it ifpeople avoid the last stall in

(01:04:18):
the bathroom just because, ofthat you know.
Akamanto and it's like, like youdon't necessarily believe in it
, but it's like either way, Idon't want to risk it kind of
kind of like there are somethings that are unlucky for a

(01:04:40):
reason and like suppose so I'llgive you an example from what I
hear is unlucky to whistle on atheatrical stage because back in
the day, um, they would usesailors to uh, lift and raise

(01:05:04):
and lower curtains and the setsand stuff like that, and they
would communicate throughwhistling.
And so if you whistled on stage, you might accidentally give a
signal to lower a curtain and itlowers on top of you or
something like that.
And so because of that, it isunlucky to whistle on stage.
Now, you're not going to runinto a lot of people who still

(01:05:27):
communicate via whistling, butyou're going to hear the
superstition to not whistle onstage, that it's unlucky to
whistle on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
So I'm assuming Axl Rose was never in the stage play
.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
He was in Midsummer Night's Dream.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
If he was, he would never be able to get through all
of Patience Just throwing itout there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
He was Deuteronomy in Cats.
I just picked a character Idon't know.
I just picked a character Idon't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
He was.
What's his name?
Damn it Sweeney Todd.
He was Sweeney.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Todd, that'd be a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
In the Scranton public playground.
Who was that?
It was Andy.
It's that it was Andy, that'sfine.
It was the Scranton communityplayers or something like that.
Yeah, boo Boo, when did?

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
the cast list go up Like a month ago.
Which part am I playing?
I love this all right.
I like, by the way, it's sosubtle, but I like the joke.
Uh, what time does it start?
7, 30.
How long is it?
Hour and a half.
I can't make it like that iswhat did, like he would have

(01:06:58):
been able to make it if it werean hour, 15.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Anyway, Was that Creed?

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Who did the report?
Yeah, the only terrifying partof this play is the vocal
performances.
God.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
If you want to know what Creed's thinking, go to
wwwcreedthoughtscreedblogspotcomor something like that yeah
anyways, all right.
So we're gonna move on.
We're gonna go move to oh mygod, I know for a fact I am not
gonna get this.
See, I think it's Tiki Tiki,but that sounds ridiculous.

(01:07:46):
So I think it's T-E-K-E,t-e-k-e, t-e-k-e, t-e-k-e Am I
right?

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
I think it would be Tiki Tiki actually.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Really I think so.
Again, I'm not, not positive.
Am I overtaking this stuff likesomeone?

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
please, uh, send us a message and correct us, because
I'm I would do it in Japanesetrying to work on my Japanese,
please it's here's a quicksidebar, by the way.
Um.
So I took I took German a longtime ago and whatever I took
french in high school barely gota c.

(01:08:29):
I took uh in college for myforeign language.
I actually took sign language.
That went well and I haven'tkept up with it.
So I've forgotten a lot.
But I that one, um, being avisual learner, that one really
made sense.
Um, I had an opportunityrecently to uh uh learn through

(01:08:49):
um duolingo.
I knew I didn't.
I knew I didn't want to dofrench, I spanish, I just just
didn't interest me and I waslike I kind of want to do
something a little different andI thought japanese would be
really fun.
And I actually had a couple offriends in college that took

(01:09:09):
japanese and said oh, it's nothard, they are liars.
It is really hard.
It's like one of the mostdifficult languages to learn.
Um, and part of what makes ithard is it's not like the
letters of the english alphabet,it's symbols.
And once you learn thosesymbols like these two symbols

(01:09:31):
together is a different symbol.
And the symbol is like, it'snot like a k with a line over
the top, it's a thing that youlike.
It's two squares with a line onthe side and then two squares,
the line on the side and a lineover the top.
It's a thing that you like.
It's two squares with a line onthe side and then two squares,
the line on the side and a linehere and then two lines.
This way, and the thing itlooks like nothing else you've
ever seen before and that youknow is the word for shinbun.

(01:09:55):
You know stuff like that.
So it's tricky, um, and now andso here's to make it even worse.
After about a year I was likethis is really tricky, but I've
been doing it for a year, so nowI got to keep going.
So I'm invested now and I'mjust going to keep learning as

(01:10:16):
much as I can.
Someday I'll be able to go toJapan and order rice, and then
that'll be it.
I'll have to get back on theplane and leave, because that's
all I remember.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
So sushi man sushi.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Yeah, that one's easy , it's sushi yeah, sushi
California roll well, and that'sthe other thing, like I might
be able to say stuff, but to beable to write it down right,
that's the thing, gosh that's agood question.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
In japan is the california roll a california
roll.
California roll, a Californiaroll?
Mmm, yeah, see.
Or do they even have them inJapan?
Because that's made like, if Iremember right, california roll
is it's imitation crab meat withcucumber and cream cheese.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
They would.
I wonder, if a California rollis something we came up here in
California, most likely Becauseyou would feel like in Japan.
Why would you use imitationcrab when you're that close to
the ocean?

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Yeah, they have the real thing over there, like
they'll just right grab a tunaand fuck sushi, that shit up
right away.
Boom, like let throw it from,like somebody on the beach like
tossing fish, and then they justfill that shit up, all right.
So we, we got off on completelythe wrong right but it's okay

(01:12:03):
because I was starting to sayokay, so you, you think it's
tiki tiki, I think so okay, well, actually it is maybe this will
explain it.
Okay, tiki tiki is said to bethe ghost of a woman or a school
girl, school girl who fell onthe railroad line and was cut in
half by an oncoming train.
Yeah, I'm assuming.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Crossways not not bifurcated if you're cut in half
.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Yeah, yeah, you're bifurcated anyway if you're cut
in half but not the would behorizontal.
It'd be horizontal bifurcation,not vertical bifurcation.
There we go, anyways.
The vengeful spirit outraged byher untimely death now haunts

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the urban areas and trainstations at night.
Since she no longer has legs,she drags herself on her hands
and elbows, which produces achilling tiki tiki sound.
So my assumption is the rock,the gravel moving would sound
like like that right now.

(01:13:16):
It would be tiki tiki it wouldbe Tiki, tiki.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Possibly, should you encounter Tiki, tiki, run.
If the malicious spirit catchesyou, she will slice you in half
with a scythe.
Jeez, although she lacks legs,she's extremely fast.
Yeah, you know why?
Because she's twitching.
She's twitching around on theground like they do over they do

(01:13:47):
over there, and has been knownto keep up with cars.
Jesus, in summer editions ofthe story, she will ask you
where her legs are, in which youmust reply oh geez, my Shin
Expressway.
In order to survive in lesshopeful alliterations, your only
chance of survival is to outrunher, which is completely

(01:14:07):
impossible, wow.
So if she ever sees you andsays where's your leg, where's
my legs, you have to say themichan expressway.
That sounds funny, like thathadn't been added in the like
wait, hold on.
We can't have this thing end incomplete bifurcation every
single time.
We must find a way out.

(01:14:30):
How do we do this?
Where are we?
Oh, we're in the missionexpress, that's it.
That's the word we will say tomake it go away.
All right.
So here's another one, becausethis is just getting funny as we
go.
I'm going to try to pronounceit in Japanese, but I can most

(01:14:53):
definitely tell you what itmeans in English, because it
follows it.
So, tore, no, hanoko-san.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
That sounds good, sounds about right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
And it's Hanoka-san of the toilet, all right, so one
of those and I'm assuming it'sToray, toray, no, toray, no, no
means of I'm assuming.
So Toray must mean Toilet.
So the next time you have touse the bathroom you can look at

(01:15:30):
Mrs Serene and go Torre, andthen she'd know what you're
saying.
Okay, okay, so anyway, we'regonna go Back to the bathroom
with this legend that you couldcompare to bloody mary.
Hanoko is the spirit of a youngschool girl again, school girl

(01:15:53):
who met her end in an elementaryschool.
Okay, that got bad real quick,not that kind of school girl.
Um, I'm gonna go back andremove the and also say that I
was not picturing a elementaryschool school girl.

(01:16:13):
I digress anyways in thebathroom and she, basically she
met her end in the bathroom, uh,as a result to the suicide due
to bullying, her or world war iibombings, it's, it's now said.
It's weird, I don't know, Ihave no idea why that said that

(01:16:35):
she died due to bullying or theworld war ii bombings wow, can't
figure out what killed herthat's a big jump, don't you
think?

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
right, it's like a game of clue.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
We don't even know which room, what weapon there's
the toilet but never mind, youtotally missed it anyways, many
children test their wits bysummoning the child spirit.
In order to summon her, youmust go to the third floor this
is very specific, again, veryspecific Third floor bathroom

(01:17:16):
and knock on the third stallthree times, after which you say
are you there, hanako-san?
And if you hear even thefaintest reply, make a hasty
exit.
If you're too slow or choose toenter the stall, honoka will
drag you into the toilet andyou'll never be seen again.

(01:17:36):
That's fucking wild.
That's a wild story.
Dragged into a toilet.
It's the worst swirly ever youdo yeah, I know, swirlies,
creepers um oh my god all right,come on, man, we have stuff to

(01:18:06):
do here, jesus and can we pleasestop with your?
Crappy impressions.
Uh, I have been told bynumerous people that they love
my impressions on this show ofme what okay?

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
all right, there we go.
Thank you I personally loveyours.
That's the one you know, ittakes more than one person for
comedy to exist that's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
That is I.
There are several people thatwould disagree with that
wholeheartedly.
One of them is andy kaufmanokay.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
So if you get up on stage tell a joke and and it
doesn't get a laugh, you stillthink that's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Me.
Yeah, I will use a joke to thefreaking dying end.
I would.
I would make sure it gets alaugh.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
Strangely enough, John's available for weddings
and bar mitzvahs.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
I've never done a bar mitzvah.
That'd be fun I haven't yet.
Have you done a wedding before?
I have done a wedding.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Yeah, I've done a wedding, which was good because
everyone's already in a happymood, They've already got food
and beverages and stuff likethat.
And the thing is, the materialthat went over the best was the
material about the couple.
Like, I had met with the couplebeforehand, asked him a few

(01:19:31):
questions and I wrote some jokesabout him and of course that's
what you know was was thosejokes?

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
So that's fucking awesome.
I think more weddings needcomedy shows.
Not gonna lie, they're very.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
I mean mean they're very conducive to comedy.
Yeah, you've already.
If you've got the dj, you'vealready got a sound system,
you've got an audience who isalready happy and beverages are
usually provided and stuff likethat so unless you've got a a
cheap doing an open bar.
But, um, also, I did.

(01:20:06):
I was asked to do a funeral, um, but I had to turn it down only
for scheduling reasons.
But I thought it was cool thatthey wanted to have a comedian
at a funeral.
Wow, not a comedian had died,mind you.
If a comedian dies, um, youneed to have a light, because

(01:20:29):
other comedians will take thatopportunity.
They see a microphone, they getexcited, you know, um, but this
was not that situation.
They wanted to bring in acomedian to lighten the mood and
and make some jokes, and Iwould have done it if it fit
into my schedule.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
So that's crazy.
Yeah, I've never been asked.
I've never done that I I would,I, I don't know have you done a
birthday party I, I have, I was.
I even did a gig at a church.
That was uncomfortable is howyou heard my stuff Like I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
For you, that would be bad.
I've done plenty of churches.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
I am not.
I'm not dirty, by any means.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
But you're not church appropriate.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
But I'm not church appropriate, no, and I'm not
little kid appropriate, like ifyou have little kids around.
I'm like crap.
I don't want to offend people.
I don't care if I do, but Idon't want to offend people.
I don't care if I do, but Idon't want to.
You know what I mean.
That's not my purpose in life.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
And I have also done a preschool event, but it was
for a preschool with theteachers and with some kids
there, but no bar mitzvah yet.
So I'm waiting to cross thatoff my list.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
I'm assuming my first two jokes in my set would go
over really well.
Oh, my gosh Okay.
So we're going to get going.
We might end on this story.
Let's end on this one, and thenwe're going to Okay, anyway,
anyway, we'll get to this allright, so we might as well end

(01:22:10):
on the.
The thing I hate the worst orthe most, it's the a doll.
It's a haunted doll and it'scalled the okiku doll.
It's okay, I k u o kiku.
Yeah o kiku.
Okay, cool maybe okay, maybeokay, the legend.

(01:22:33):
I'm gonna say okaiku, because itsounds more japanesey.
Anyways, the legend of theokaiku doll differs from our
previous stories of.
The doll physically exists andresides in Manan G Temple in.
Oh jeez, hokkaido, hokkaido, Idon't know.

(01:22:54):
The tale goes back to 1918 whena boy purchased a doll for his
younger sister.
They both had bob haircuts.
The little girl was infatuatedwith the doll and they were
inseparable.
Tragically, a short time later,the girl passed away from an
illness I'm guessing 1918 flujust throwing it out there.

(01:23:17):
Her family displayed the dollnamed okaiku on an altar in
remembrance of their daughterand noticed that the doll's hair
was growing.
They concluded that thedaughter's restless spirit was
inhabiting the doll andeventually provided it to the
mananjai temple, where itremains today and is viewable to

(01:23:38):
guests.
Okaiku's hair continues to growto this day, despite haircuts
from the temple's priests.
So they give it a haircut.
That's crazy.
If you are in hokkaido, why notstop and observe the eerie
phenomenon yourself?
Hokkaido is not the only placein japan with terrifying real
life legends.
Hidden amongst tokyo's advancedskyscrapers and quaint temples

(01:24:03):
are some truly horrifying spots.
Tokyo supposedly has some ofthe most haunted locations in
japan, but ironically enough, Ican't find them.
I can find our awesome legendsthat we did today.

(01:24:24):
You know, I kind of wanted usto go into a more paranormal
route, but that was kind of fun,don't you think?

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
yeah it wasn't bad and it's it's kind of like you
say it it comes to paranormalstuff.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
And maybe it's honor of their family, maybe I don't
know, maybe it's just not.
I don't know.
I don't know what Buddhistsbelieve with paranormal.
You know what I'm saying.

(01:25:09):
So we mostly know that ifyou're a Catholic and it's a
ghost, it's a demon, right?
We kind of figure that Ifyou're a skeptic, ghosts don't
exist at all.
If you're, if you, you know,like there are different um in

(01:25:29):
different religions, differentareas of the religion, there are
, um, I guess, different ways tolook at it, but mostly, nine
times out of ten, if you're acatholic, it's a demon, that's
what I've learned, I don't know.
Uh, the uh, betrothed, seems tothink so sometimes oh my god I

(01:25:51):
called her betrothed again.
Oh, like bringing back memories, oh, that's cute got it wrong,
it's okay.
I I get a lot of things wrong,especially on this show.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Anyways hey, so hey, let's.
When do you have any plans forwhen she's going to be moved
from queen consort?
To what ancient term are yougoing to use then, after you're
actually?

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Probably wife or my queen.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
So when's that?
Do you have any idea?

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
We don't know the date, but we're kind of
narrowing it down as to possiblelocation.
Okay.
Yeah, it won't be around here,alright, yeah, maybe, maybe, I
don't know, we'll see.
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.

(01:26:48):
Yeah, another thing, one morething, and then we should do, we
should do a fund this or that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Yeah, but anyway.
So one more thing.
I wanted to bring up somethingfor you to possibly make fun of
me about DW.
I got life insurance recentlyyeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
Now you just need a life, so there it is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
I don't know if it works here, but there we go all
right.
Um, uh, you know, yeah, I got.
So, uh, I'm basically recordingthis now telling you this
because that way, you know, Ihave life insurance.
So if I happen to mysteriouslydisappear at any point, it's

(01:27:38):
documented that I know what'shappening.
I, I know their plan.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
Yeah, just saying so we'll know that if something
happens, we've got to look for apaycheck coming.
Not for me, I'm not gettinganything.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
No, you're not Damn right, you're not Alright,
alright, so DW.
Yeah.
I think we've come to aboutthat time, and that time is the
this or that time.
I don't know, dw.
I don't know if you know whatthis or that is, but basically

(01:28:20):
we're going to ask you Don'twaste time with the explanation.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
We know what it is are you sure?
Yeah, all right.
So do you want me to go, or are?
You gonna go or that?
Then I'm ready.
Are you just gonna do?
You want me to do a few and youdo a few, or how are we doing
this?

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
let's, let's do the.
What do you call it?
Roundsy twosy?
No, that's not how it goes.
The back forth thing, I don'tknow.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
Alright you going first no, go ahead okay, would
you rather read the book orwatch the movie?

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
oh, depends on which one sincerely depends on which,
like, like, if it was StephenKing's it, I'd rather read the
book.
Okay, because they take toomuch out.
Like, if it was Stephen King'sit, I'd rather read the book.
Okay, because they take toomuch out.
Um, but if it's Lord of theRings, probably the movie,

(01:29:19):
because I don't want to wastethat much time on all those
books.
I'd much rather just get it allall done.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
Lord of the Rings is one of the few examples where I
think the movie actually doestake as long as it would take to
read the book.
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Yeah, it's possible.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
They're long.
That's the point I'm trying tomake.
Alright, go.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Alright, DW.
Bananas or apples.
Bananas or apples.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
Bananas All right Beach or pool.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Beach Most definitely the beach, all right Church or
Costco.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Usually every week after church, you can find me at
Costco.
Jeez.
I'll go with church.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Okay, wow, look at that.
You're taking the safe way.
You just scared somebody inyour congregation or whatever is
going to this right, right, allright um time travel to 1825 or
22, 25 1825 because I think myattitude I would fuck shit up

(01:30:41):
back then like I would be, likesincerely I feel I could, I
would be bigger than jesse jamesyeah yeah, all right.
What?
By bigger I mean fatter, notname wise all right, all right.
Glasses or contact lessonsglasses I, I'm not, I'm not

(01:31:09):
asking.
We know you wear glasses yeahI'm talking about preference.
If, like, if you preferredcontacts, but you're wearing
glasses because of a certainthing, like you can't wear, like
, see me, I'm supposed to wearglasses.
I don't, but I would like towear contacts, but I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
You see what I'm saying I just I cannot wrap my
head around the concept ofputting a lens onto my eyeball.
I don't know like.
I don't think I would be everever be able to do that.
So I I'm one of those people.
I was talking with someonerecently who was like oh, I've
been wearing uh glasses for 30years.

(01:31:54):
I've had enough.
I'm getting lasik, you know, orwhatever.
I've been wearing glasses toofor quite a while.
They just don't bother me tothe point that I am seeking
alternatives.
I'm fine with them.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
You're going to go with glasses.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
Alright, would you rather Ghost Hunt with the
Ghostbusters, or Scooby-Doo andthe gang?

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
Oh why?
Why See, now this one has.
This is messed up because, okay, you have obviously with Scooby
and Shaggy, you know what we'dbe doing, um, but I feel, I feel

(01:32:42):
Venkman would probably light upsome shit too.
I'm going to go with Scooby-Doo, unfortunately.
I mean, that was a toss-up, itwas a tough one because I want
to hang out with both of themequally.

(01:33:02):
So I'm going to go withScooby-Doo on that one.
All right.
Gw John Olsen or Swamp Thing.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
Yeah, well, what context are we saying?
Just like a road trip, or, youknow, am I opening for swamp
thing, or uh yes, you're openingfor swamp thing yeah, it's
swamp thing that that'd be.
That'd be a cool uh thing.

(01:33:48):
Yeah, it's swamp thing thatthat'd be.
That'd be a cool uh.
That'd be a great show like uh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
I'd like to thank uh swamp thing for uh warming up
the crowd uh, yeah that'd be agood show it would be a way
better resume than worked withjohn.
Also, I guarantee you that Ifeel.
Yeah, all right for the lastone, last one, last one.

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
If we're grilling, do you want a burger or a brat?

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
a brat.
Okay, yeah, a brat.
Um, I don't know.
I like burgers, but when you'regrilling it's it's never like
that special burger.
You know it's always a burgerlike cheese, and then you do
yeah stuff on it, but a bratjust throw some mustard on there

(01:34:33):
.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
Uh, yeah, I think uh for for me depends on the brat,
because we we've got a, got ameat place like literally blocks
away from us.
Ok, that has some awesome bratslike flavors, awesome, awesome
flavors and you can just youknow those you just grill them,

(01:34:59):
put some ketchup on them andthey're delicious.
You don't have to worry aboutfixing them up with anything.
I mean I.
You can have some really goodbrats.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
Question with that, since you brought it up have you
ever had a gummy bear brat?

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
Yes, they're good.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
It's not bad, right?
It's good, it's sweet andsavory, just like you would like
whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Have you ever had a Kool-Aid brat?
No.
Grape Kool-aid brat.
No grape kool-aid it'ssurprisingly good, yeah, yeah.
So I'm assuming either soakedin it or they use the sugar
whatever on it.
I think they use the sugarthing, I'm not sure, but it
tastes.
You wouldn't think like, how isthis brock gonna taste like

(01:35:43):
kool-aid?
It tastes like kool-aid.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
That's crazy that is nuts man, all right.
Well, I don't know, um dw, likewe should probably get out of
here, but we should.
I just you know, what'd youthink of our, of our little
japanese episode today?

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
I don't know.
I really I, I I keep saying it,but I really really want
someone from Japan to contact us, tell me how far off we were on
our pronunciations, tell usabout ghost stories in Japan and
tell us how in the world youcame to listen to Scolarius
Because we're awesome.
That's why I really, reallywant to know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
I also really want to know if our listeners in Japan
want to hear my Mr Miyagiimpersonation on the next
episode.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
I can field that question for them.
No, they do not want to hear it, are you sure?
Yes, we should have you reachout and let us know If there's
anyone out there who wants tohear that impression, I will pay
you $10 because there issomething wrong with you.

(01:36:55):
Please contact us and seek help, because we do not need to hear
that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
So I don't know, they can just think can reach out,
baby reach out, oh gosh I wish Icould mute you, but I can only
mute myself anyway, all right,man well, I'm glad you had a
pretty decent time.
What was your favorite story,do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
I don't know the uh the, the.
I I know it's dark, but I think, because it's true, the story
of the uh the, the suicideforest yeah, you know not that I
like it, not that it's good totalk about that, but uh, um, it

(01:37:44):
is.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
It's interesting you know, I'm sorry, that's the only
like all I heard from hauntingthings or whatever is I mean it
has, though you know runs again.
It has like, uh, you know evpsand then you know like shadow
people and figures and screamingand wailing and things like

(01:38:07):
that.
But the stories are so verysmall and that's exactly.
I mean.
What I'm telling you isbasically in the story.
It just goes through that itdoesn't give like any details
whatsoever on like how it was oranything like that.
Like DW said, like I've beensaying throughout this whole

(01:38:30):
thing, if you know and you havestories and you're over there in
Japan, let us know.
We want to hear it.
Yeah.
And we would definitely have youon, just because it would be a

(01:38:51):
whole lot of fun, all right,well, I guess you know what that
means, dw, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, what does that mean?
You have to do it, I do.
I'll have to do the thing.
You know, you guys have beenamazing.
We'll see you next time.