Ep. 66 Haunted Journeys and Unforgettable Tales: The Doss House

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:28):
What's going on?
This is Scalarius, I am JohnOlson and with me, as always, is
DW.
The disastrous wafer cookie,serene.
There we go.
That was really delayed, and adisastrous wafer cookie.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
that was a good one yep, not gonna comment on it.
That's my apology.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
So today we have you need to do this and nope, nope,
plowing through no, okay, goahead.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
So mountain dew baja blast is today's flavor.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
So okay, you want to guess what mine is.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
THC something.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Oh yeah, Most definitely THC, something Again.
You know, this is how we do.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
All right, which, by the way, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Go ahead DW, which, by the way, okay, go ahead, go
ahead DW.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I was going to say.
When I had a show last weekendin Rochester, I passed by that
THC shop and I thought wouldn'tit be hilarious if the one time
I go into the store is the timethat John is actually not with
me?
So I was seriously thinking ofgoing into the store just for

(02:46):
spite, and then I wouldn't getanything and be like, do you
need help?
Like no, I just need to spitesomeone, and then I, you know,
turn around and leave.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
So thank you, appreciate that.
All right, so anytime.
Many of you may be, many of youmight not have cared, but I
don't know.
There was a little gaffe lastweek at the end of our episode
and that was, yeah, a fat fingeron my part.
I was doing our signature closeand instead of you know, I

(03:22):
don't's just I hit stop way tooearly and we just cut off.
It was like the end of Sopranos, it was just immediately, just
like you got done.
I don't even think we got tothat, did we?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I don't know, I'm not sure.
And the thing is that episodehas at the time, we thing is
that episode hasn't at the timewe're recording this, that
episode hasn't been released yetand everyone knows I don't
usually listen to these episodes, but that one I will listen to
the end, just because I want tohear John screen up over and
over again.
I think it's going to be.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Just remember to do it several thousand times, just
just throwing it out there.
You know, every little bitcounts.
You know what I'm saying ohyeah yeah yeah, yeah.
So what?
What else?
What's going on?
Dubs how are you?
How are you?
Like we haven't seen each otherin like two whole days.
Are you doing good?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, so did you.
We'll discuss this, since it'sa recent event and I think we're
allowed to say the actual name.
I know they have a trademark onthe name, but did you watch any
of the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I watched most of the Super Bowl, with the exception
of the halftime show.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I watched pretty much the whole thing, including the
halftime show.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I was not going to do the halftime show.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Well, and the thing is, I was expecting it to be
much closer.
I thought this was going to bea great game.
I thought which it was, it wasa good game, but I just thought
it was going to be much closer.
I thought this was going to bea great game.
I thought which it was, it wasa good game, but I just thought
it was going to be a differenceof like three or four points.
So I'm really shocked that itwas uh, the um, embarrassment

(05:20):
that it was for the for kansascity my sympathy to Kansas City
fans.
Now you know what it's like tobe a Vikings fan and be
disappointed.
But I was, like I say, we had aoffice contest no money
involved, but an office contestand I tied for first place

(05:44):
because I picked the eagles andthey actually won.
And it was cool because foronce I was actually rooting for
a team.
Normally I don't have a, a, ahorse, in that race, but this
year I was actually rooting fora specific team and they won.
So it was.
It was a little more specialfor me this year so see, you

(06:06):
know, I don't care who wins.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
You know, like I, at one point there was a post on
facebook that said, like youknow, my family members, like
the chiefs, my friends, like theeagles, who do I root for?
And I was, like you know, Iwouldn't care if the game was
taken over by a bunch of rogueproctologists who were giving

(06:29):
out, you know, unwelcomecolonoscopies to people who were
not under anesthesia.
You know I, I was like, but tobe fair, I feel that would make
it more watchable.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I don't know, just just saying well, I have never
seen that many rogueproctologists in one place.
So yes, of course that would bemuch more interesting exactly,
but no, man I don't know if I'veseen I was happy with that.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I don't know if I've seen one rogue.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that'sall I can say, because I hate
the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I don't hate the.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Chiefs, it's not that .

Speaker 3 (07:09):
No, I do.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I'm a Raiders fan.
I hate the Chiefs.
That's you, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
So I despise.
The Chiefs actually Like to behonest and I hate to say this
because this is going out in thepublic ears and things like
that.
If the stadium collapsed andeverybody died, I think it would
have been like don't take itthere, not like that, not saying
like you know whatever, I'mjust saying like either one of

(07:37):
them, to be honest, like theEagles usually horrible,
horrible.
Like I knew if they wonthatadelphia would be destroyed
and it's getting there and Iknew that if they lost
philadelphia would be destroyedand most likely would have.
So you know, yeah, as we said,you know, as we're recording,

(07:59):
it's the day after the superbowl.
I'm happy as hell because thechiefs got their asses whooped
and you know whatever, but stillI digress, so I wanted to bring
up something before we move onto.
You know what we do on thisthing.
Uh, dw, I have noticed thatever since we started doing this

(08:22):
whole zoom thing, if peopledon't know, we we do zoom.
This is how we record yeah forthe most part.
That way we can record 150people if we wanted to be weird,
for podcasts, but whatever.
But since we've been doing thezoom thing, you have not made an
appearance at casa de betrothed.
You have not come over.

(08:43):
So it has been months since youhave been here at the Casa de
Batroth studios and I'm justkind of wondering what's up.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Well, actually, and I think the last time I was there
was we were carpooling to someevent, so it wasn't even for a
podcast, it was something it'swell.
Um, I I've been able to drinknow because I don't have to

(09:16):
worry about driving home.
In the middle of winter when wefinish with the podcast, it's
pitch black and in winter couldbe snowy.
I don't have to drive homethrough that um a lot of times.
I'm coming from eating justmoments ago to coming into my

(09:37):
studio, so I don't have to rushto get into the car and make it
there on time.
So, um, it's nothing personal.
Um, you're welcome to take itpersonally if you want, but it's
nothing personal right, yeah,it is.
It's way more convenient, I feel.
And the thing is I I'll saythis um, when I record from home

(10:01):
, I I'll hear later, you know,comments from my wife about like
, oh, you're not, I don't hearyou talking a lot, is everything
okay?
You need to make some comments.
Or sometimes she'll say, oh,what was that you said about me?
I heard you said that, oh, Ineed my wife for this, and you
know what was the rest of thatsentence.

(10:23):
So it it's funny to uh, uh, youknow, go back home and and
answer to those questionsafterwards.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
So I get it.
I just want to let you know,and everybody else know, that
I'm ending zoom after this onetonight so you can come over
here.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
So just saying oh well, then I'm letting everyone
know this will be my last uhepisode, because I'm not going
to go over to this house.
So it's been fun.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Talk to everyone later I guess you got to finish
this one.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
You're contractually obligated do you do you want, I,
I can.
The leave button is right here.
Do you want me to hit that?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
No, let's not do that .
Hey, we have things we've gotto do.
Hold on, we have things we'vegot to do.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Wait, hang on.
Okay, I don't have a legalnotice this time.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, that's good.
All right good, because youknow things are about to get
wacky up in here.
And you ignore them.
Anyways I do, and I things areabout to get well wacky up in
here anyways I do, and I don'tcare if there was one um.
So uh, you know people outthere.
I don't know why I do this,because nobody really ever talks

(11:40):
to us honestly.
They don't.
I'm like, hey, let's do thisand whatever, and then they
don't.
But I, I'm just, I'll do itanyway, just because it's a
thing and I'm gonna do it.
So if you want to find dw, youcan find him at dw serene
comedian on facebook.
You find me at john olsoncomedian 2.0 on facebook.

(12:02):
You can find us both togetheron Facebook.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
But not a couple?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
No, we're not a couple.
You can find us at theScolarius page Also, we do have
a TikTok that I have beenputting the videos on.
So you can find us atScolarius8 on TikTok and also
Instagram.
We are pretty hot on InstagramNot hot like Kylie Jenner, hot

(12:29):
Like all up in there with ourmakeup videos and whatever I'm
saying, like what we're doing isI'm putting stuff on the
Instagram page that's Scalarius.
There too, you can also emailus at ScalariusPod at gmailcom
and if you want to, if you wantto, you could.
You could Listen to everysingle episode that we have at

(12:50):
sclariospodbuzzsproutcom.
Do that.
And while you're at it, sinceyou're, you know, if you're in
front of the computer doing thatthing, you could go to
crowdmadecom forward slashcollections, forward slash

(13:12):
scolarius pod.
You can get.
What could you get?
Dw?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
well, you can.
My favorite is you can get at-shirt that says I don't know
who john olsen is.
Um wait, is that hud's phrase?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
yeah, I have no idea I have no idea yeah, I have no
idea who john olsen is.
That's your favorite one, huhyeah I like that yeah yeah, you
could also get.
You could find this together.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
But we're not a couple yeah, we're not a couple.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
You can find that shirt right there at the
Crowdmade page Also.
Also, we have like cups, wehave like you know.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
We have cups, we have mugs, we have hats.
We have shirts and sweatshirts,the hoodies We've got the
leashes dog poles, collars.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Sweatshirts Put it sweatshirts.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
The hoodies.
Get ahead of the hoodies.
We've got the leashes, dogpoles, collars.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, for your hellhounds or hellcats you want
to put your cat on a leash, youcan do it.
And you can do that by gettingyour leash that says hellhounds
on it, which is weird, anyway,if you want to put your cat on a
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your cat on a hellhound's leash,you can do that just go to
crowd made, you know, forwardslash collections, forward slash

(14:33):
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you can do that yeah or you canjust go to crowdmadecom and
search scleros, whatever youknow you want to do.
Yep, yep, you're sorry, oh manthis might be your last episode.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
I'm just saying I'm throwing it oh, I'd like to
thank everyone for joining me onmy oh, stop, it's not your last
.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
you were with me till death or the end of this
episode, I'm not sure which onewhichever coach might not be far
off, yeah.
You know what?
No, my cholesterol is okay.
I think I don't know.
I don't go to the doctor.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
How would you know?
You've never been to a doctor.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I've been to a doctor , dw.
I just don't go to thereregularly.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yes, but you were dead at the time, so I don't
know if that counts.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
True story, uh, but either way it's okay.
Uh, what do you think we shouldwe get on with this?

Speaker 4 (15:37):
We should get it, we should get on with this, because
I can see I can.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, no, you're either irritated with me or I'm
you're irritating me.
I'm not 100 sure what it is,but something's happening here
that we need to get on to the,to the guests, because I feel
like well and continue this.
It's going to be an argumentright and we've I can.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
We can see them on video and they're laughing, and
so I'm I'm having a feeling it'sgoing to be three against one
pretty soon.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
So yeah let's get this started, because All right,
yeah, you just like that, it'sOK, all right.
So you know, hey, I figured,why not?
I'm going to.
You know, I like to get peopleon here that obviously are
paranormal enthusiasts, that areparanormal investigators, that
have paranormal things, and alsothe cool things is like when

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they have a whole freaking housethat is basically all
paranormal.
And I decided I just kind ofwent out and I was like, hey,
let's do some stuff.
And I did some contacting andwhatnot.
And it just so happens.
Just so happens that there is ahaunted house that is not wait,

(16:53):
hold on, just throwing us outthere.
We had the ross house on here afew weeks back.
Now we're gonna take that r andwe're gonna throw it away, and
we're going to take that r andwe're going to throw it away and
we're going to replace it withthe d, okay, so, so, not the
ross house, not the ross house.
We're not only are we going totake the r and throw it away and

(17:16):
put the d in there, we'reputting the d in there.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Okay, we're going to do that your spelling is no,
it's not all right yeah, okay,anyway so but we're also going
to do that.
Peter's spelling is no, it'snot All right.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Anyway.
So, but we're also going totravel northeast, from Ohio up
to Pennsylvania, okay, and we'regoing to do that right now.
So what I would like to do isto welcome on our guests.
They are the owners andproprietors of the Doss House in

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Laredo, pennsylvania.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Laredo, laredo.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Best intro ever.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yes, In Pennsylvania.
Right, I said that right right.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
You got the Pennsylvania part right.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
All right, loretto.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
You even practiced John.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
I know, well, you know, but anyway from the Doss
house, how are you tonight?

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Hanging in there, hanging out here, actually at
the Doss house tonight.
How are you tonight Hanging?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
in there, hanging out here, actually at the Doss
house tonight.
You're at the house.
Yeah, I am.
You are.
Danielle is somewhere else,she's way up north.
Danielle's in New Hampshire Allright, so we're going to do
some do-si-do things here, sojust real quick here.

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Okay, danielle, we chatted justfor a second before we started
this today and you are in NewHampshire because I'm assuming
you're a traveling medicalperson, is that correct?
Correct that is correct andyour job is I'm a surgical

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assistant.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
I work in the operating room that's pretty
freaking awesome.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
With that, any freaky stuff happen in the operating
room when you're in there freakymeaning okay, I'm at.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Okay, there's different take that anyway I was
gonna say how long is yourpodcast?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
I mean, I've heard of things in operator.
I'm talking like paranormalstuff.
Has that ever happened whenyou're in there?

Speaker 6 (19:50):
Actually there has been a couple instances of
things happening which kind ofwas back in my non-believing
days per se, when my sciencebrain was, uh, bigger than my
paranormal brain.
But yeah, there were some thingsthat have happened, for sure

(20:13):
while, like during surgeries, uh, no, mostly when the rooms were
empty and we're getting set upfor a trauma or we are coming
down from a trauma or a surgeryand kind of cleaning up or just
like going in and getting theroom situated and stocked for

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the next day.
Cabinet doors open, things kindof know came off the shelves.
Yeah, somebody got shocked onetime just by touching a piece of

(20:57):
equipment.
That was kind of weird, but Istill think that there was a
short in a cord that wastouching the metal equipment
that they touched.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
But that's my scientific brain, so it does
happen.
That's pretty cool.
I I had to touch on that.
Um, so before we move over toshauna, who is like legitimately
in the house that we're talkingabout right now, shauna, you
need said.
It's right now it.
Shawna, right now it's going tobe you.
Both of you are going to chimein here, but right now I'm
talking specifically to you.
You're sitting there.

(21:35):
How did you end up gettingthere?
How did you know it was haunted?
Tell the whole process,everything that's happened.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
September of 2023 was when unique paranormal 1.5 was
born.
That's our paranormal group.
This originally was my mom'sgroup.
I had ghost hunted with her foryears and unfortunately,
september of 2023, she passedaway from cancer and Danielle

(22:08):
and I decided that we were goingto continue and her honor, her
group and my mom had always,always, always wanted to own a
haunted location.
Just, never, things neveraligned for her.
She couldn't find anything.
So once mom passed, daniellekind of made it her personal
mission to find a place and shesearched for one, day in and day

(22:32):
out, and day in and day out,and we stumbled across this
place that isn't too far fromhome it's about 25 minutes from
home and we stopped by,contacted the property owner and
you know, from the outside youdefinitely get some super creepy
vibes.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
And she was like yeah , this is it.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
We're going to get this, we're buying it.
And I was like whoa, whoa, whoa, like we need to go in here,
set up some equipment, seewhat's actually happening.
And we did.
The property owner at the timelet us come in with some
equipment they actually didn'tthink we were nuts, um and let
us come in here and set up someequipment.

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And we literally started offthe night with a bang and it's
been non-stop for us ever since,um, and therefore we decided to
actually purchase it and turnit into a location that the
paranormal community can come inand investigate, to fulfill my
mom's dream.
And that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Pretty awesome, yeah, very awesome.
So how did all that work?
Danielle, I'm sorry, this isgoing to be kind of cool because
I can go between the both ofyou and you guys can't really
get.
You can't get out of each otherBecause you're hundreds of
miles away.
So this is even better.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
She's coming up on Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
So I'll get her eventually.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's true, all right.
So Tanya, okay, she said thatyou were looking for a haunted.
Would you know?
How would you know if it'shaunted like?
How did did you just likeassume you were looking for
haunted places?
Obviously, these places aren'tjust going to be like, hey,
haunted house for sale.
That's not how that happens.
So how did you?

Speaker 6 (24:19):
come about it well, this, this one, um was, I
couldn't find it that way, butthat's not true.
There actually are sites thatyou can go on and there are
haunted places that you canpurchase.
There's a site calledspookyhousescom actually what,

(24:40):
I'm not joking you.
Not joking you, you canactually buy haunted places on
eBay, not also not joking.
So I've done a lot of researchand this one we kind of it was
kind of weird.
We just went for a ride one day, and which we do.
We kind of like get in the carand we just drive with no

(25:04):
purpose and we just see whatwhere it takes us, and we're
driving through this very smalllittle American town and we kind
of stumbled upon it Like weseen this house sitting there
and I was like Ooh, babe, thathouse is creepy as fuck.
Oops, sorry.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
No, you're 17.
Oh good, oh good.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
Permission granted Yay, and she's like, oh my God
it is.
And I was like it just has likea weird feeling and vibe and
wonder who owns it, and so westarted, you know, doing a
little dig in and next thing,you know, we find the owner and

(25:50):
contact them and I mean the restis kind of history I think it's
trying to trying to get you totell them how you felt it was
haunted like oh yeah wellmeaning well.
So when shauna's mom passed awaybecause I was very much the

(26:14):
person I was a huge skeptic.
I didn't.
I believe that there, that whenwe die we didn't necessarily
die.
I think that we're spirits, butI don't.
I didn't necessarily believethat we're just kind of like a
bunch of spirits roaming aroundand you know, opening cabinets
and stuff like that.

(26:34):
So when Shauna's mom passed away, we were there taking care of
her for pretty much nonstop.
Definitely.
Shauna was for six weeks.
She was diagnosed.
It happened very fast.
From diagnosis till she passedaway, I think was only maybe
three months total, if that.

(26:57):
So I was working out of townand I would work and then I
would drive up to her mom's andI would stay and then I'd leave
there and I'd drive back to workand to help take the burden off
of Shauna and and cause I havea little bit of a medical
background and so Shauna's momum, shauna's mom didn't just

(27:23):
love the paranormal, sheactually had abilities, she
actually was very sensitive, sheactually had some pretty
awesome gifts and right when hermom was, she was really

(27:46):
non-responsive.
It was probably the last week,like about a week prior, I would
say it was about a week.
She basically was non-responsive.
We were medicating her aroundthe clock to keep her
comfortable.
She never, she hadn't spoken indays, like no words, nothing.
And she would make these cutelittle face gestures and it's a

(28:10):
shame because you know, peoplecan hear this but they can't see
and she would make this littlesmile and wrinkle up her nose at
me and and she always toldshauna that I, I was her girl, I
was her girl.
So she, I went over to check onher to you know, see, um, take
care of her and help clean herup.

(28:30):
And and she kind of made thisnoise and said, hey, and I, I
was like mama holly, and shesaid come here.
And I, oh my I, she hasn'tspoken in days.
So I leaned down over top ofher and I said mama, what did

(28:51):
you say?
Did you say something?
And out of like, out of nowhere, she basically said, um, the
gift is yours now.
And she gave me this big hug.
And I gave her a big hug and Iwas like what are you talking
about?
And that was it.

(29:12):
She went back, like laid down,never spoke another word.
And then what passed away, liketwo days later, and after that
things kind of started to get alittle weird for me, things I

(29:32):
couldn't explain away, things Ididn't understand, that like
what.
The next night night I kind ofended up having some kind of
physical attack while we werewait like still waiting for her
to pass um.
I started kind of I know thatI'm literally going to sound

(29:55):
crazy, because that's what Ithought of people when they said
these things um, I wouldstarted to see kind of shadow
figures.
I literally could tell you thatshauna's mom's husband, who is
definitely a piece of shit, umwas three floors down because

(30:21):
she was on the top floor of thetheir house, massive house, and
that was her her room, and Iknew that I could literally feel
him and see him in what theysay is your third eye.
I could see him coming like.
I could see him walking aroundthe house.

(30:41):
I knew where he was, in thekitchen, three floors down and I
would say, and I would say he'scoming here, he comes and
literally there he'd beliterally three seconds there he
was.
He was there and it was justthings started, yeah, kind of
being really weird for me, likeI would start seeing things that

(31:04):
I really didn't want to see,and a lot of times I would just
kind of like not acknowledge itor just be like I wouldn't say
anything.
I would just be like okay, butlately it's gotten kind of hard
to ignore particularly here inNew Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Well, I mean a little wonky up there.
Yeah, it's old and a lot ofstuff happening up in New
Hampshire, yeah, Okay, I need tostep back just a second because
I don't know if you can tell bymy facial features.
I'm kind of like whoa, I'venever heard ever.

(31:54):
And I mean I've been doing withthe paranormal stuff for over
20 years for over 20 years I'venever heard of a psychic or

(32:14):
whatever abilities being passed,like I've heard.
I've heard asked from like,maybe from mother to daughter or
father to son or mother thefather, I mean, you know, mother
the son or whatever, butnon-relation and just kind of
like you know that, wow, that's,that's mind-blowing right there

(32:36):
.
And then the fact that younever had any inklings or
experiences before that, andthen to have it happen and
immediately, you know, havestuff happen, is that's crazy
and I'm not saying like you'rethinking, I'm saying crazy, like

(32:57):
oh, you're crazy, I'm justsaying like wow, that is just
yeah, no, no no and and I can't,and I I think in a way, maybe
it's like holly's site.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
It was like hindsight is 2020.
I, I think, not necessarily.
Maybe did she pass something tome.
I think she knew it was thereand she kind of helped me.
Maybe yes, because the thing isI can't legitimately say that I

(33:30):
hadn't had experiences beforeHolly or before I even knew
Holly.
I just kind of ignored them orI kind of Explained them away.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Explained them away.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Or like oh well, that shadow I just seen in the
mirror, it was from the somebodywalking out on the street and
the sun reflecting off thewhatever, whatever I always kind
of or like oh, that little boyI just seen up on the steps must
have been one of my kids, eventhough I hollered for my kids
and nope, they were both outside.
So all of those, I kind of justignored it.

(34:08):
If yeah, Okay, so I kind of justignored it and then I think it
was there and I think she knewthat it was there, but I didn't,
I didn't want it to be there,if that makes sense, because you
really weren't involved in theparanormal very much at all,

(34:29):
until my mom passed away, I surewas not, it was like an
addiction to tattoos.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
As soon as she got a taste of it after mom passed
away, it's been feet on thepavement running ever since.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Which I also have addiction to tattoos.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Okay, well, that means who doesn't really.
You know, like, once you getone, you need to get more.
Shawna, do you have the gift,like your mom did?

Speaker 5 (34:56):
I don't have near the gifts that my mother did have.
I do have some abilities andmore.
Like again, like I went onthese adventures with my mom
just because I wanted to hangout with my mom through the
years, Never really believedanything, like as a kid.
Like your mom's telling youthis stuff and you're like, yeah
, right, whatever, You're sofull of shit right now.

(35:16):
Like, just like when I try totell you about grown up stuff,
you're like God, you're so fullof crap right now.
So I did it just to hang outwith her.
But then as I got older Istarted to actually listen and
pay attention but didn't reallystart to divulge in it until
after she passed away,unfortunately.
But I do notice I'm a lot morein tune with things than I

(35:37):
thought.
Visionary, seeing things.
Definitely my senses of feelhave changed dramatically, but
nowhere near clear, close towhat danielle does, nowhere
clear.
I was actually just told myfriend britney, who's here with
me tonight.
Um, as we got here that youknow lately like danielle has

(35:57):
literally been blowing my mindwith the things that she picks
up, hears, hears from spirit,communicates with us, and then
we actually validate thesethings with facts, Like I did I
just told her tonight.
I'm like every day Danielletells me or says something new
and it literally just blows mymind.
So but yeah, nowhere near that,but definitely a little

(36:20):
intuitive.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Wow, I mean, that's pretty cool.
I have to go back to danielle,for just this is fun, I like
this.
Oh yeah, because she's sayingsomething.
And then I'm thinking, wow,that's a good question for you.
So, with that being said, uh,being a surgical assistant,
correct?
Yes, all right.

(36:44):
So you're in the area whenthings are happening.
People are coming in, they'reprobably trauma surgeries or,
even worse, right at points, the, I guess, awakening of your

(37:08):
ability.
How have you noticed anythingdifferent when you're in the
operating room?

Speaker 6 (37:16):
actually, uh, yeah, whereas it I can and I know this
is gonna sound weird too um, Ican actually feel things more.
Before I it was kind of likefor well, for 27 years that I've

(37:38):
been in medicine, we're justkind of like kind of taught to
not really feel.
Like it's just like we're kindof robots, like we do and like,
especially if a trauma is comingin, you kind of just do what
you got to do without eventhinking and it's all kind of
getting done.
And lately it's it's almostlike I can feel a lot more

(38:06):
emotion per se, like it's almostlike I can feel, even though
they're alive still, it's almostlike I can absolutely feel how
the patient is truly feeling.
Or and I actually have kind offelt how past patients have felt

(38:26):
and I don't know if they'repast patients that might have
passed away, I don't not surelike when I'm walking around a
hospital, I can feel differentthings.
I can hear different things nowand sometimes see different
things that I didn't before, ormaybe I did and I just didn't

(38:46):
want to.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Wow, man, this, oh, it's too bad.
We can't go Rogan style Justtalk about this stuff for hours,
Cause I feel like we probablycould.
We're going to try to keep itas brief I'm not gonna say brief
, because it's never brief, butwe're gonna try to keep it as
close to whatever.
Whatever happens happens.

(39:08):
I'll just say that.
All right so, but I have tomove on to the actual house
itself.
The history of the house.
Obviously, it's in Loretto.
See, I did it right this timeyou got it.
Where is Loretto Pennsylvania?

Speaker 6 (39:30):
In the mountains of western Pennsylvania.
It's about an hour and 20minutes south of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Very cool.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Isn't it east?
Is it east.
Yeah, it's east of Pittsburgh,there you go Go Pens.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Anyways, all right, you came about it by basically
seeing it in an.
What did you actually find itin the website?
That website?

Speaker 6 (40:09):
you were talking about or no?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
we were just actually driving around that day wow,
and you just you're like, hey,this one we need to look at well
somebody had mentioned it toyou and then I was like, what is
this house about, whatever?

Speaker 5 (40:22):
and so you were just like, well, let's just go for a
ride.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
And then we came out and drove past it to see what it
was all about and why peoplewere saying it was a creepy
place because we were alsodriving around that day, because
there was a couple other placesnear the towns that I grew up
in little towns just and hadalways kind of frightened me

(40:45):
when I was younger and I waslike wonder if they're still
there.
Let's see, if they're stillthere, I wonder if we can buy
them.
And we drove to a couple ofthose ones which they are still
there and I we're actuallylooking into possibly getting
another one.
But, um, and yeah, then I waslike, well, I know where loretta
is, so let's go out and seewhat these everybody's talking

(41:09):
about.
There's this creepy littlehouse somewhere.
Yep, they're right damn yep forsure.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
All right, right.
So let's get back to the topicat hand, the Doss house.
First of all, why Doss?

Speaker 5 (41:28):
That was the nickname of the barber that lived here
in the 1900s to current ReallyYep.
So because he was the lastprofoundly known person in the
town that lived in the home,that's why we named it the doss
house very cool.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, and is that barber haunting that house today
?
Absolutely, really, he sure isall right are we talking like
Floyd the Barber on AndyGriffith's show, or are we
talking like?
Sweetie Todd like where are weat there?

(42:09):
Is he damn near Jack the Ripper, or is he a nice old yeah?

Speaker 5 (42:14):
he's like a grumpy old guy, he's just like he comes
across stern, you could tell hewas a very strict man, very set
in his ways, type of man veryyou know, of course, from the
interpretation yeah, I was goingto say very old school ways.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
Yeah, like man of the house, very old school.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Yeah, I was going to say very old school, If you
understand what I mean on thatone.
Yeah, like man of the house hemade the rules he called the
shots?
Yeah, very much so.
And why do?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
you come across with that.
Were things said Like on EVPsor like what?
What made you?

Speaker 5 (42:58):
oh yeah, come to that goss has actually come through
on on an evp spirit box.
I believe we also got dos.
We get barber a lot, um, acouple times.
I think we've gotten this, havewe get?
Did we get the sound of theclippers in the very beginning,
danielle?
Because we've only been in heresince oct 31st was the day the
first day we opened this placeup, so this is all still really

(43:21):
fresh and really new for us too.
Um, but yeah, definitely youget a lot of men names that come
up over there because that youknow that was a place for the
men to be and hang out in thetown.
He was the only barber of thetown, um, so you get a lot of
men and you know that type ofchit chat over there and we have

(43:41):
found if we take a group of allwomen over there, we get
absolutely nothing.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Really.

Speaker 6 (43:50):
You could have a group of six women, and if you
throw one man in there, it'sgoing to be just all the
difference, yep.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Wow, he's misogynist.
Okay, all right, sounds allright, told you old school, yeah
.
Well, I mean yeah, I mean oldschool, yeah, but still I mean
there's it gotta be nice.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
I mean we did, we did here too, like because
originally when that barbershopwas put here it was his own
entity, it wasn't attached tothe house, so the barbershop was
a men's place.
The historian across the streettold us all about this.
That's where the men went andwomen weren't per se allowed, so

(44:35):
it was where men went to gettheir hair cut and have dude
chats, like dudes do, whateverthat may be.
But yeah, it wasn't a place forwomen until his wife became ill
, um, later in the 1900s, andthen he opened up the side of
the building to put a ramp inand connect it to the house, and
then that's where um she endedup towards the end of her life

(44:56):
was in that space over there.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
So is it still there?
Is the barbershop still there?

Speaker 5 (45:00):
A hundred percent Yep , it's still here, yep, we
actually have the barber chairin there, a lot of his tools
that we found here in the house.
We actually found his originalmirror.
We found it in a back corner inthe basement, so we have all of
his stuff in there set up forhim.
So yeah, it's pretty intense.

(45:22):
Like this is a really old.
I don't even know what kind ofbarber chair that is.
Danielle will know.
Oh, what was the name of?

Speaker 6 (45:33):
them.
I can't believe that I forgot.
It Doesn't begin with a K.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yes, brittany.
What's the brand of the barberchair?
Yeah.
We're all gonna be like oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Well, yeah, because I was like oh my god, those are
so old and so expensive yes, youguys think about what the brand
name is and I'll tell you aquick barber story.
My dad used to go to the barbershop and get his hair cut, I
don't know why.
Because he was going very bald,like he had a very bad receding
hairline, and then he wouldtake that hair and slick it back

(46:17):
and cover up his bald spot inthe back.
You know he had to get his haircut.
You know that's when he went tothe barbershop and then he
ended up getting having my momdo it, who was a beautician at
one point, but then my mom cutoff the top of his ear and then
he never had that happen againit was so funny nice, is that

(46:39):
why?
you shaved all your hair off no,that's just because I yeah, I'm
just I.
He uh, my hair comes in patches.
It's weird.
I look like a very big, youknow, like jason looked like in.
Yeah, when he came out of thewater and friday the 13th that's
how my hair grows in for youcan rock that man for real so,

(47:02):
uh no, she cut off the top ofhis ear.
It was funny because my friend'sdad we were kind of like
brothers, you know, like we allhung out together and everything
so his dad was waiting to gethis hair cut by my mom too.
So my dad, she went snip, cutoff the top of his ear, and my

(47:22):
dad just like he jumped but hedidn't say anything.
And then, just so he wouldn'tfreak out, jerry, essentially,
and then so he just kind ofreached down and picked it up.
You know, oh my gosh, he justkind of reached out and picked
it up you know, oh my gosh, youjust kind of reached out picked
it up

Speaker 5 (47:42):
whatever, yeah too bad you didn't know, danielle,
then she could have just gluedthat sucker right back on it was
that that's funny but okay, sothat, that's.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
That's a good.
But my, my uh barber shopexperience was this I'd go with
my dad and then the barber wouldhave comics on.
It was just laying out and Iwas smart back then and I knew
what comics were really good andI knew what comics were really

(48:15):
crap.
So I would take my crap comicsfrom home.
And I knew what comics werereally crap, so I would take my
crap comics from home, bringthem to the barbershop and
exchange them for the goodcomics that he had.
So I ended up with really goodcomics and then the kids or
whoever was waiting there gotlike I mean, it was some
Archie's, some like um, so youwere an incognito thief.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Yeah, okay, I'm not incognito thief In other words.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
I'm not going to say thief, that's not true, because
it was like this for that.
You know what I mean.
But it may have been a nickelcomic for a $10 comic.
You see what I mean.
But either way, look at it.
Did you remember the name ofthe barber chair yet?
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
I think it was Theo.
Was it Koken?
Yeah, it's a Koken Koken.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
All right, dw did it.
He got it.
I was like he's going to beGoogling it here shortly, yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
I just googled old barber chairs and it's one of
the.
It was one of the only onesthat came up that started with k
, so that's very cool.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
So you had the barbershop.
That's connected there.
You had the house.
What's the size of the house?

Speaker 6 (49:31):
oh small so I'd say maybe 1200 square feet now Maybe
.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
I mean like, like the living, the original part of
the homestead.
I'd say this room is probablylike 15 by 20.
And that's the original part tothe back, which is probably
about 12 by 20 on the back, witha staircase that goes upstairs

(50:06):
and then there's a littlebreezeway that takes you over
into the kitchen area, which wasthen added on after that, which
that's probably.
It's not as deep, so I'dprobably say that's about 10
feet by 15 feet, and then youhave the barbershop attached to
there, above the originalbuilding there is a one-bedroom,
with another small roomdirectly above, and then you

(50:28):
have a creepy-ass basement.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
I'm assuming not finished.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
No not finished, not finished, not first yeah so all
right.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
So it's roughly 12 1300 square feet.
How many bedrooms?

Speaker 5 (50:50):
one large bedroom and then a teeny tiny room that at
one point was a washroom butthen later used to put
additional children, because thelast family that was in here
had five kids.
Holy crap.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
In a small house like that, mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Yep, wow, we'll say the bedroom upstairs.
What do you think?
That is Probably 12 by 12?
.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
Yeah that they had two adults and five children in.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Wow, yeah, okay, what part of pennsylvania is this?
You said western, like thewhere, where?
Are we talking here.
These are these kids.
These kids have one head right.
It's like this is like yeah,like you said, the mountains, so
this is the appalachians, right, we've been here before, we've
discussed this we know it's amountain mountains very, very

(51:44):
catholic town like not a verywealthy area okay, all right

Speaker 5 (51:50):
um, so I I have a feeling that played a big part
in that.
Um, you know, have what youhave, take care of what you have
, be thankful for what you haveand stick together as your
family unit, I think was kind ofmore this area's type of way of
thinking and living.
Um, and yeah, like I said, verysmall, super religious catholic

(52:11):
area.
Um, you know, and they did asthey could financially wise,
they did add on space over theyears and proceeded on with the
what was it?
1940 something when thebarbershop went on?
Is that what we found out withthe records Actually?
the first actual toilet was putin with plumbing.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Wow.
Was put in then, but prior tothat there was not uh
functioning bathroom facilitiesum running water was here um,
but yeah wow, I just have topoint this out, see, see, like

(52:55):
I'm obviously the asshole.
Instead of thinking that thesepeople might be, you know, not
in good financial state, thatyou know, instead of thinking
that you know that they're poor,I'm thinking that they're
mutants and they have freakchildren.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
That's where I'm at Definitely, not Definitely not
Definitely we're very poor.
Were were very poor.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
They were, they were very poor see, that's you know,
I'm tired of being an assholenow I was gonna say now you feel
like an asshole exactly, yeah Ithought the same thing, like
where did these people washtheir ass?

Speaker 5 (53:35):
like how did they stay clean, or what this, that
the other.
So when we talked to thehistorian frank across the
street, he's like, well, back inthose days we just took our
soap down to the creek over hereand we all just, you know, you
wear your bathing suit downthere everybody went down there
and cleaned up.
I said, yeah, but what did youdo in the winter?
He's like just boil your pot ofwater, pour it in your basin
and there you have it like that.

(54:00):
So this was literally just away of life around here, for so
long.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
But see, that's like.
I'm sorry that like that.
That's weird because moderntechnology, even in the 1940s
there was running water, therewas electricity, there's a lot.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
You know things like that and they had running water
and electricity.
They just did not have plumbing.
Right, yeah.
So they didn't have a way or aplace to actually install a
bathtub, because back then I'msure a bathtub was very
expensive and then to have theplumbing put in for that was

(54:34):
probably very expensive.
So they just adapted to thatway of okay, we're boiling our
water and filling up the basinand get in and wash your hiding
like just get on with it, andyou know hard for us to
understand, because we can'timagine being like that, but I

Speaker 3 (54:53):
guess that's the way yeah, they're poor, plus they
have three-legged kids.
I get it I understand I know, Iknow what's going on, all right
, so tell us about theexperiences there.
I mean, obviously you have, youhad groups stay there yet oh
yeah, a lot we've had quite,we've had a quick, we've had
quite a few so far.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
Um, I'll let I'm gonna let danielle tell you
about what happened the firsttime we were in here.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
I was going to say I want to hear personal
experiences, but I want to hearsome things that you've heard
too about.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
I'll let her tell you about what happened with us,
and then I'll tell you aboutwhat's happened to the last
couple groups.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
So the night that we got a hold of the owner at the
time and she let us into thehouse and we went in.
There was five of us there wasme and shauna and our daughter
chloe, our friends, uh, beth andand brent were there.
And now, mind you, this house,when we went in, it was, it was,

(55:59):
it was a house from the tv showhoarders, so there was not much
space, there was just it.
It was, it was something.
It was really something, um.
So we got in to kind of havelike ptsd.
We get into the living roomwhere we set up our like we put

(56:23):
our equipment down and kind ofjust sit in there.
And you have to kind of pictureit like we're in this, you know
what, 10 by 15 by 20 room.
There's a couch, a love seatand they're kind of shaped in
like set in the shape of an land sits in the middle is a
coffee table.

(56:43):
So on the little love seat sitsshauna and chloe and on the
couch sits our friend b and beth.
And now everybody's trying tofind something that's kind of
clean to put on the couch sothey can sit on them.
So we find some like garbagebags and stuff like that, and
I'm standing at the end of thecoffee table and everybody's

(57:08):
sitting down and our friend Bethjust walks over to the couch
and she turns to lay her garbagebag down and the biggest bang
like I swear it was like acannon went off, happens.
The floor actually raised me up.
The bang was so big that I kindof jumped up off the floor.

(57:32):
Everybody sitting there couldfeel it on their feet and I was
like what the fuck was that?
Now, mind you, the day beforewhen we went and we looked at
the property with the owner, wewent to the basement like it's
hoarded out except the oldbasement, the old basement.
There was nothing in there notone thing in that that basement,

(57:54):
the new basement what we callthe new basement poured it out
the old basement, nothing in,but the back door wouldn't shut
and it wouldn't lock.
So when this bang happens, I'mthinking there's somebody in the
basement, there has to be asquatter or something.

(58:15):
So me and Brent are like like,okay, we're going down to the
basement.
So we go running outsidedownhill into the basement, have
a flashlight, and I'm like sowhat are you gonna do if there's
a squatter in there?
and he's like I don't know so hepicks up a tire iron that he
finds on the floor of thebasement.
I'm like okay, there you go,beat him to death.

(58:37):
It's like okay so he's likewe're going in, we're like
magnum pi with flashlights andtire irons and go in, look
around nothing, nothing at all.
We go to the back basementnothing.
The heat vents aren't touchingthe the, the root, the ceiling.

(58:59):
There was nothing out of place.
I was like what the hell couldlike?
What?

Speaker 5 (59:06):
the support beams.

Speaker 6 (59:07):
They checked all the beams all intact, not not busted
.
So we have no idea what thatbang was still to this day.
But it was enough to kind ofget everybody kind of kind of
getting ready to go, that's forsure.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Well, and Brent the skeptic he's like oh, it's
probably just the house settling.
And Daniel was like you dumbass, a house would sink if it
was settling.

Speaker 6 (59:35):
not lift me up off of the ground Like he's like oh
yeah, true, true that I was likein this house has been settling
for over 200 years.
How much more does it have tosettle?

Speaker 3 (59:47):
yeah, it's probably not much settling left after
that I mean not really.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
How old is that house ?
1810, 1810 it was actually thefirst house built in the town,
really, yeah wow, I mean, Iunderstand.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Now you're telling me it's kind of a poor area and
everything.
I would assume anything over atwo-bedroom.
They're like wow, he's rich,you know?
Yeah, that's my.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Have you guys ever been or seen pictures of the
Hinsdale house up in New York?

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
It's very similar to that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Yeah, so the place itself isn't super tiny, it's
just like a lot of little roomshooked together.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Right, I got you.
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
So your first experience there was, I assume,
DOS probably banging on thefloor or something.
Like get out of there youcreeps it literally sounded like
a shotgun went off under ourfeet literally is what it
sounded like it was creepy sowhat has happened to people

(01:01:11):
there, like as they're stayingand everything?

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
we've had a couple people see shadow figures in
different spots of the house.
Um, we have different people wehave that have come in who
claim there is I mean, in thebasement definitely holds a
darker energy.
We don't know what that is yet.
Um, you know, we don't throwthe the d word around out there.

(01:01:35):
Definitely don't feel like it.
It's anything in there that isgoing to hurt anybody.
But it's definitely a differentenergy in that space, in the
crawl space, than there isanywhere else in the house.
We've had a lot of groups getgrowled at, but we've also had a
lot of positive feedbackchildren's voices, evps of women
oh man, I'm just trying tothink.

(01:01:57):
Evps of women oh man, I'm justtrying to think.
Most recently and it's on a lotof our social platforms a local
group here near us called DarkHollow Paranormal.
They were in here.
Something had got the attentionof some girls over near the
staircase and they went over tocheck it out and in that moment
something had growled at them,startled them.
The stairwell light flicked onOne of their.

(01:02:21):
What was that?
There was a doll or like amotion sensor doll or something
in the dining room that thenstarted playing music and then
they took off running screamingat the top of their lungs
Screaming running women, yep.
So when they got a, hold of mebecause we have cameras running

(01:02:41):
in here 24-7, so they asked meto pull up the footage to like
see if what they were gettingwas legitimate.
And I pulled up the footage ofthe bedroom upstairs as well and
in the moment, of all thescreaming and yelling and chaos,
the REM pod upstairs in themiddle of the bed started going
crazy.
So they got the growl, thelight on the screaming and

(01:03:04):
running and the REM pod activityon the bed all at the same time
.
So that was really neat.
We get a lot of great mag lightactivity in here, lots picked
up on.
The another group that was inhere got tons of stuff on their
sls and again lots of um likeshadow figures.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
They catch and see crazy evps trying to think of
like some other west virginiaparanormal had an amazing estes
in the barberhop like that wasprobably the best estes I've
ever seen, the most intelligentresponse I have ever seen you'll

(01:03:48):
have to you'll have to explainto me what is so, as this, um,
the estes method is basically uh, you go into an area, um you're
blindfolded and you have soundcanceling, uh headphones on so

(01:04:10):
you can't hear anything.
And then it's connected to kindof like an SB7, like a spirit
box, so it plays at a certainspeed, like kind of your mix,
like a rate of white noise yeah.
Yeah, like it's like a mixed FMwhite noise.

(01:04:33):
So when that's happening andyou're talking like you're
talking to spirit, who's doingthe estus method can't hear us.
It can just hear if spiritcomes through the white noise on
the box, through their head,things.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
Well, and the person with the headphones on, you kind
of have to go into like aslight meditative state to try
to like just clear your mind.
You know, hearing nothing,seeing nothing, is the most
important thing and in thosemoments, certain work, you'll
only be able to hear certainwords and that relevance to that

(01:05:12):
Estes method and thatbarbershop.
That night, everything theyasked audibly, the response that
came from the gentleman thatwas under estes was right on
even to the description of itemsthat were in the room.
Like it was crazy wow, yeah, itwas.

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
Yeah.
If you guys uh look up WestVirginia Paranormal, I think
they're on TikTok and all ofthat YouTube, all that stuff
YouTube.
You get to watch that Estes inthe barbershop.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Wow, it is spot on it is, it is spot on.
I was gonna say, you know, Ididn't know, shauna's rig there
was mobile.
I'm like, the moment you saidthere's dark energy in the
basement, I'm like, well, I mean, if you're there, you might as
well, go now we can findsomething I mean I will go down.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
unfortunately, your viewers can't see anything but
um, definitely I will go downthere, but Brittany is going to
go with me, because I will notgo down there by myself.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
I was just sitting there thinking, like some of the
coolest stuff you know, youwere mentioning shadow figures
and everything like, but youalso said that you have cameras
on 24 seven.
So let me just ask you this,because I'm looking at you and
the and the listeners can't hearthis.
I mean, well, they can, theycan hear it, they can't see it.
They can't see it.

(01:06:46):
Yeah, yeah, sometimes I get mysenses wrong, anyway.
Um, so they can.
They obviously cannot see this,but you're sitting and you have
two doors behind you.

(01:07:07):
Yeah, the oval doors well, notdoors themselves, but it's, it's
an entrance doorways.
Doorways into a hallway nowcould be tricks in my eyes.
I don't know, I don't know whatbritney's doing or whatever else
, but um over what would be yourright shoulder this one yep, um

(01:07:35):
, it was lower down, probablychair level okay whatever, and I
thought I saw like movement andI was like huh, and I kept
focusing on that exact area andI haven't seen it since, but I
wanted to just tell you that.
And then you're like, oh,there's shadow figures.
And I'm like, okay, I wanted totell you that.

(01:07:56):
And then you're like, oh,there's shadow figures and I'm
like, okay, there's one.
You know what I mean.
I'm like, okay, I see it.
And then you said cameras onall the time.
So let me ask you, with thatbeing said, do you ever get any
shadows going in that hallway?
Do you guys see that at anytimes?

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
I haven't seen anything in this particular
space behind me.
About a week and a half ago afriend of ours, sarah, was in
here and we caught on thecameras.
Standing in the kitchen andthere's a little breezeway,
there was a big like a bigscraping noise and a thump that
got attention and everybody waslike.
That was that you look over tothe left towards the dining room

(01:08:37):
.
But when I played it back onthe on the video camera footage,
so you're standing there in thekitchen and you right before
you see the reaction, you see ashadow shoot through the
breezeway into the dining room.
There's there's a black shadowthat shoots through that air and
then area and then everybodyturns to the left, walk through

(01:09:03):
that freezeway into the diningroom and then again upstairs in
the crawl space.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
You hear the REM pod going nuts so that I have caught
.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
Recently it seems like when people I caught one on
the camera at work.

Speaker 6 (01:09:13):
Oh yes, that one was crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
That one was nuts.
We actually had a time loop ona time loop stuck on the cameras
for a while.
I was actually in here puttingnew memory cards and everything.
And I was just walking back outthe door with my son because,
again, like I said, I never comehere by myself.
Ever, never, ever will I evercome in here by myself?

(01:09:38):
And we were just walking out thefront door and she called me
from work and she's like hey,where are you?
And I said I told you I wascoming with Christian to fix,
you know, put these memory cardsin the cameras.
And she's like, were you justin the dining room or the
kitchen?
I said no, I was in the livingroom.
I'm walking out the front door.
And she's like there is afigure that just walked across

(01:10:12):
the kitchen and I was like, nah,I was like literally shut up.
So I walked back in the house,walk over to the kitchen with
mind you, but I hear the cameramaking a funny noise.
Well, danielle said on her end,it was like going from day to
night vision, it was likeclicking that back and forth and
I'm like, well, I don't seeanything, I don't hear anything.
They said I'll reset thecameras.
We did that and then she's like,well, that's not the craziest

(01:10:34):
thing.
Craziest thing is the datestamp on the camera says it was
December 31st of 1969 at likefive something in the evening.
And I was like what?
It doesn't even make sense.
These cameras didn't even existback then.
So I log on to all the othercameras.
All of the other ones werecorrect, except the one in the
barbershop.

(01:10:55):
The one in the barbershop whichis the adjacent room to it,
side by side, said January 1stof 1970, so New Year's Day at 7
something PM.
So I'm like that's reallyfreaking weird.
So I try to reset them, factoryreset them, reboot them up to

(01:11:19):
the modem.
Now everything's run throughthe internet.
So where is this coming from?
Nothing changed.
Dates are still stuck there.
So I call the security company.
What is going on?
We don't.
We've never heard of thisbefore.
We don't know.
You know we'd be happy toreplace your cameras for you.
And I'm like, well, no, I don'twant to replace my cameras,
I've got a haunted house.
I want to see what the heck'sgoing on with these.
So we left them and theycontinued like that for months.

(01:11:42):
The security company had useven try to change the time zone
to like over in China.
Time Select that set.
You just saw it again, didn'tyou?

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
No, look to your left , look to your left, look, oh
shit, yeah your left.
Look to your left, oh shit yeah, your left yeah.
I don't know if you can seeanything going on, but I can see
something.
Guys, you can see this right.
Look right above.
I'm assuming it's the.
What is that the mantle?

(01:12:16):
Look right above the mantle Onher left side.

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
On the mantle.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
It's right above it, kind of floating, it looks like.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
I don't see it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
There's a light over there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
Yeah, my screen of myself is too little, I can't
see it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:36):
I'm looking right over your shoulder.
I don't see anything.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
You guys try john.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
No, I'm I'm serious, I swear I'm telling you, if I
walk around this house with you,you'll probably see several
things it happens all the timewatching whatever it is, move on
top like it's right above thetop of the, and I'm sitting
there thinking it's not, it's adifferent light.
It's not that light there is.

(01:13:03):
I can see light like there's achair sitting there.
Right, let's go and like whatthe hell is going on.
They don't know anything anyway.
There's, there's a chairsitting there and the light
looks diagonal because of theway the door jam looks right.
But if you were to look, um, ifyou guys.
Oh see, I can't see that much ofyour picture okay, I was gonna

(01:13:25):
say danielle and dw, you canprobably see.
I see I have.
I.
I'm lucky enough to where thescreen is big every time you
guys talk no see, it's not forme.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
I'm gonna walk over there.
I'm not getting like as much ofa picture as you're seeing
because, like the chair you'retalking about I know is there,
but I can only see like the veryfront of it this side or the
other side?

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
lower, higher, right there, right in there, what is?

Speaker 6 (01:13:59):
that what is it?

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
it's a key it's a key it's a key yeah he did yeah now
okay, hold on, now this goes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Paranormal investigators I never once said
it was anything paranormal, no,I never once said it was a go
right it was movement.
I said there was light.
Now the idea right there is togo find what, what it is, and
100 and that's what we do.

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
Yep Debunking is always top priority.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
And just to clarify you're on your second can of THC
.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
That's just not honestly, does that really
matter?
My faculties are fine.

Speaker 6 (01:14:53):
It must be legal in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Yes, the one who couldn't form a complete
sentence.
Yeah, his faculties are fine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
People are hearing what you're uh seeing, yeah I
just, I just, I just mixed up mysenses, that's all I did.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
Yep, okay, the key moved sure oh yeah, back to the
time warp.
The cameras were stuck for along time.
They just re-loop themselves,they re-loop, and then, after
new year's eve, what was it?
Maybe a week later, everythingwas back to normal and fine that
is crazy.
People come here their watches,stop their phones, turn off you

(01:15:34):
leave your phones goes into sosmode um.
A woman named sarah was hereand her smart watch said she did
not exist for 12 hours of herday, from the moment she left
her house until the moment shegot back home, because she was
here all day long wow, yeah, whydo you think that is?

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
I mean, is it in the mountains?
Like wouldn't I say, is thetown in the mountains?
Yeah, all of our towns that arein the mountains there, though,
all right so, with that beingsaid, limestone courts, all that
good stuff, you know it's yeahwell we live 20 minutes from
here and it doesn't happen to usat our house Ever.

Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
Ever, ever, never, ever and we live 25 minutes from
there in the boonie boonies,all of our local shopping and
everything everywhere else.
It only happens when we comehere.
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Now, since we're going to go out of the house.
Okay, so it's old, 1810 you.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
I mean, how many owners does it have, at least?

Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
women.
Four to five yeah we, we wantto say we have found deeds of
five.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
Okay there was a period of time, though, that it
was like transferred to likethree women within a short
amount of time very short towhat?
to this woman, back to thiswoman, to another woman, back to
this woman who then it was.
Back to this, the originalwoman, who then now had a
different last name.
So it was very odd.
And then, um, dr leo t little,who lived here for years and

(01:17:19):
years and years, but the housewas never in his name,
eventually got the deed put inhis name for like four months,
before he then sold it to thelast owner, to the barber.
So it was.
It was very weird how thetransfer of ownership of this
place bounced all over the placeso it was in a lot of women's

(01:17:40):
name to begin with is that I wasgonna say?

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
is that why dos got got all mad about it um?
Maybe so when did he pass, when?
When did he leave the house?
Well, I, I should say he'sprobably hasn't left the house,
but but when?
When did he move on, so tospeak?

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
Danielle would know that date better than me.

Speaker 6 (01:18:04):
He, he, he passed.
And September, on September11th 1980.
Oh 84.
1984.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
I just celebrated my sixth birthday.
I woke up on that day when hedied.
I woke up that day and I wokeup, I rolled out of bed and I
was like you know what?
I'm going to go watch Revengeof the Nerds.
That's what I did on that day,I'm 100% sure, in 1984?
.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Well, I was born on September 11th.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Really.

Speaker 6 (01:18:48):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
September 10th, obviously.

Speaker 6 (01:18:51):
Yeah, I'm September 11th.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Nice Congratulations, Virgo.
That means you're awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
That does mean I'm awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Shauna.
What's your zodiac, yourhoroscope sign?

Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
Pisces.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
A Pisces.
Alright, very cool.
I'm assuming they are goodright.
Ask my wife.
I don't know.
I'm assuming they are.
Yeah, they can.
They're good right.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
Pisces ask my wife, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
I very much.
Yes, she is.
She's the sign that I needed,for sure, because I am the fire
and she is the one that keepsthe fire under control isn't
pisces an earth sign.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Is that right or no is?

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
she fishy fish.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, a water sign.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
Yeah, you're out there, you're out in the ocean
um all right living my best life.

Speaker 6 (01:19:54):
There you go so I Two THCs.
He's out there too.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
I'm not that far out there.
Will you stop?
Will you stop, Anyway?
So 1810.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
I didn't have any keys that I could Stop it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
That was valid, valid I'm sorry to say that that was.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
I'll argue that, but that's why I was like let me go
check this out, because I'm notseeing what he's seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
And there, there we had it yeah, so okay, the house
was built in 1810.
It had several owners.
Um dot.
You said dos was the lastperson, that he wasn't the last
person that lived in there hewas the last owner.
So what's been, what's going onfor the last 40 years in the

(01:20:50):
house?

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
Well, once he, once he, passed away his was it his
youngest daughter inherited thehouse.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:20:58):
I think it was his, one of the oldest actually.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Oh, okay, one of the oldest daughters, and she lived
here until she had to go into anassisted living facility, and
then the house sat empty forabout a year and a half.
Okay, so we stumbled upon itjust in time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
So do you guys know if any of the past owners have
had any experiences therewhatsoever?
Yes, yes.
Really, and who was it?

Speaker 6 (01:21:34):
it was the dos's family um in 1976 actually was
having a lot of um issueshappenings in the house,
unexplained things, um, andaccording to the historian of
the town he stopped over when wewere over there and cleaning up

(01:21:57):
the house and he was like so uh, just wanted to let you know.
Back in 1976 he's like it waskind of hush hush, nobody really
talked about it much.
He said, but um Dawson, hiswife, had a paranormal

(01:22:21):
investigation team come into thehouse and I was like oh really,
I was like for what, what washappening?
And he's like I don't, I don'treally know because I it was a
family thing so I didn't want tobe a part of it.
He said.

(01:22:41):
But afterwards Doss said to me,um, that they found a not so
nice energy causing somemischief in the basement and
that's all he said.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
And that energy obviously stays there.
It's there, it's there still.

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
Oh, 100% Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Okay, so you said a paranormal investigation group.
I mean, who would it be if Ididn't ask this?
This is their neck of the woodsand this was during their prime
.
It wasn't the Warrens, was it?

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
We have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
We don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:24):
There's no record of anything.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Frank had no idea, unfortunately, no, we have no
idea who it was okay, well, I'lljust say this um, the warrens
would know, because theydocumented everything.
So if, if, by chance, uh, tonyspera, who obviously nesper over
there, um, he, him, his wife is, was their daughter or is there

(01:23:52):
, you know.
Either way, they're gone, she'sstill alive, so it still is
right, it's not what yeah, she'snot the past tense, they are
correct, okay, so, uh, so theyhave the records and they'll
probably be able to, uh, let youknow.
So if you want to know I wantto know yeah for sure yeah let's

(01:24:16):
see if, uh, if, the warrenswere the ones that are down
there.
So I'd yeah, that'd be greatthat'd be kind of cool and it
would be something cool for thedos house.

Speaker 6 (01:24:28):
You know you could you know, just to have that
validation right that's the bigthing for us is, as we're
uncovering things and we'retrying to do like dig into
history and we're trying toactually find legitimate, like
answers, not just kind of likethat's.
That's what I think is mostimportant to me is to try to

(01:24:51):
actually connect some of thedots and have legitimate britney
has actually been really goodwith that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
She digs deep into actual facts and articles and
she tries to pull a pull all ofthat stuff up for us, so that's
been super helpful.
She's a history guru that'scool.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
That's always fun to have.
I'm real big in history.
I love it because I always feltthat you have to know your
history before you know yourfuture.
Right in order for two, becausehistory always repeats itself
one way or another yeah, and ifyou don't learn from history,
then your your future is screwed.
Yep, so you've had, you say,dark energy in the basement.

(01:25:39):
I'm going to go there one moretime and then just kind of so is
it felt, or is it more, likethings that have happened down
there were just more maliciousthan the rest?

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
I mean, nobody has been physically hurt in this in
this house, okay, um, and Idon't.
I don't feel that this energy Imean it just depends on the day
and the way the wind's blowing,I guess, um, because there's
some days in here that it doesfeel like something horrible is
going to happen to you.
It takes a lot to get a riseout of Danielle, and it

(01:26:18):
literally chased her out of thishouse twice so, but then other
days, like you can sense thatthe energy is there, it likes to
toy with you, like it leads youon these goose chases all
around the house, um, why it'sother spirits from talking.
It's just a very dominantpresence, energy, if that makes

(01:26:39):
sense, um, but then other times,other times you don't really
hear much from it at all, andthen other times it's more just
like oh, I'm here to justcontrol the show, and other
times you get a sense that it'sjust very angry with whatever's
happening, um, and that youactually get that energy from
the basement and the crawl spacethat is between the living room

(01:27:02):
and the upstairs as well, butthe energy throughout the rest
of the house is not that way.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Huh, why do you think it stops?

Speaker 5 (01:27:18):
And does it go through everything?
Well, I think whatever happenedin 1976, they did something
here to kind of contain it, likewe've had sessions and I'm
trying to remember who the othergroup was that had a session.
I can't remember, I can'tremember the group's name off
the top of my head, but it wasbasically begging for someone to

(01:27:41):
set it free and to let it out.
So to put it in a visualperspective.
So off of the dining room thereis a door that goes to the
basement perspective.
So off of the dining room thereis a door that goes to the
basement and, mind you, we founda lot of religious artifacts in
this house, a lot of themhanging on the walls.
We left them where they hung.
There is a cross hanging on thedoor that goes down to the
basement, and when you'restanding at the bottom of the

(01:28:04):
stairs we call that the newbasement.
And then there's a walkway thatyou have to kind of duck down
through to go into the oldbasement.
There is a very old, creepylooking cross hanging above that
doorway as well.
No idea why, who would putcrosses in those places and for
what reasons, we don't know.
But we're not willing to riskthat and because several people

(01:28:28):
have gotten an energy begging.
You know, let us out.
I didn't do anything to be hereor trapped.
There was an Estes method thatsomebody did in the dining room.
Am I remembering this correctly, danielle?
I can't remember who it was,but it was basically.
This energy was basicallytelling them I was trapped down
here for no reason.

(01:28:48):
I'm being held prisoner.
You should feel bad for me, socome and let me out.

Speaker 6 (01:28:53):
Yep, I remember that Estes method.
I cannot remember which groupit was.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
I can't remember who it was?
Yeah, I can't remember.

Speaker 6 (01:29:08):
Their response was because they basically were like
yeah, no, we're not going to dothat, you're going to stay
there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
So has anybody done an Estes method in the basement?
You said barbershop, but in thebasement.
Okay, how'd that work?

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
In the basement.
So what comes to my mindrecently?

Speaker 6 (01:29:35):
I did that one where it said she's mine.
I did.
Yeah, you got it when youscreamed at you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
Through what was it?
Spirit talker?
None of us had ever had thatresponse.
It actually said f you, withexclamation points at the end of
it.
We've never gotten thatanywhere.
Um, a cat ball actually flewoff of the wall down there.
Um, there was a black shadowfigure seen reaching around the
back of I think it was you inthe chair touching the rum pod

(01:30:01):
next to you because, that's whenI was doing the rest tests yeah
, there's a lot of cursing downthere, a lot of name calling
down there.
The most recent one, Sarah, wasunder Estes method and for some
reason this house dislikes oneof our team members, makes it
known all of the time that theycan't just they can't stand Amy,
they hate Amy.

(01:30:21):
She's even brought gifts to thehouse to try to figure out why
the house says things to her inparticular and under Estes.
About a week and a half ago Iwas asking the questions and I
said hey, you know Amy justbrought you a gift.
You know she's really trying tofigure out why you don't like
her.
You know, can you tell me whyyou don't like her?
And immediately in that, inthat moment, Sarah said because

(01:30:44):
she's a see you next Tuesday,Right, and it's happened several
times and we don't like.
Yeah, we don't know why, but itacts that way towards certain
individuals that come in thehouse crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Well, I mean, is there like suspicions that it's
the old man?
He's a grump, he's a cuss, hedoesn't want to deal with
anything.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
I don't think so.
I feel that it's two totallydifferent, separate energies.
I never feel that type ofenergy from the barber.
For sure we do have a doctorand a dentist here too that have
showed up.
Several women who have shown up.
There was quite a while therein the beginning that we were

(01:31:37):
constantly being told to go digin the basement.
There was a woman that wascontinuously begging us to go
dig in the basement.

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
All the time.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
And we did have a medium that we brought through
the house, like right after webought it, just to kind of give
us an idea, Like before nobodyinvestigated it except us, like
before we bought it.

(01:32:07):
And then we started cleaning itout.
We brought a medium in to justget a feel of the house for us
and one of the biggest thingsshe, she said was you're
supposed, you're supposed to digin the basement, like you're
supposed to dig in the basement.

(01:32:28):
She wants you to dig in thebasement, we.
She wants you to dig in thebasement.
We're like who is she?
And that was the first time weheard it.
And then, ever since then, weget it a lot All the time All
the teams get it a lot.
They're like why we're alwaysbeing told to dig in the
basement.
So that's kind of weird for us.

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
Okay, if you ever saw the basement, you'd understand.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Do you have a stir of echoes thing going on there?
You have a girl buried in yourbasement somewhere, maybe, I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:32:58):
I don't ever plan on finding out.

Speaker 6 (01:33:02):
Me neither, because then they're going to close us
down because it becomes a crimescene.

Speaker 5 (01:33:07):
I mean I don't ever plan on finding that one out.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Okay, what if it's a hundred year old crime scene?

Speaker 5 (01:33:13):
I mean, they don't know that until I mean
no-transcript for folks, that'sfor sure like I said, if you,

(01:37:24):
even if you only have a night tomake out of it, we we let you
stay to sleep.
You know, we want everybody tobe safe and get home safely, so
if you need to stay longer tosleep, that's never a problem
that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
So, okay, 250 to 350 a night um you.
I mean, what's the amenities?
What do you have?
Do you keep the we have heat,we have running water.

Speaker 6 (01:37:57):
We have a toilet that actually flushes.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
We have snacks.

Speaker 6 (01:38:04):
We actually have breakfast sandwiches that you
can purchase.
Energy drinks, water.
T-shirts, sweatshirts,long-sleeve shirts Unlimited
coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Oh, that's good.

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
Yeah, we put in here everything that we wanted to
have.
When we went places Like wewere like oh man, it would be so
nice if we could have a nicehot cup of coffee right now, but
you gotta drive 45 minutes tofind a town to get a coffee.
So we made sure that we hadfree.
Yeah we have free unlimitedcoffee in here for everybody all
the time bottles of waterenergy drinks, snacks, because

(01:38:38):
there's no stores super close,no rain, and making sure we had
heat in here was a number one.
So, yeah, we got all thosethings working and got her going
because they were all notworking.

Speaker 4 (01:38:55):
So we had to redo the plumbing and we had to redo the
heat and wow well and that thatis noteworthy because a lot of
houses we've talked to, becausethey're usually older buildings,
some of them don't always haveheat or running water or a
bathroom in the house and stufflike that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:15):
So it's good to point that out.
Yeah, yeah, it was importantfor us to at least have those
couple of things.
We know, you know, some placesit's just unreachable or yeah,
and I mean we're paranormalinvestigators as well and we
like to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
But we don't like to just only do it in nice weather
right, you know what I mean like, and it's kind of like a it's,
yeah, it's.
It's kind of kind of sucks,honestly, in the winter time for
paranormal investigators,because there's not a lot of
places out there that have heat.
And you might be able to getaway without running water, but
heat right now that's a big todo.

(01:39:56):
So that was kind of importantto us, because everybody kind of
gets that little itch in thedead of winter Like, hey, let's
go find some ghosts.
Yeah.
And but we're all kind of likeno, because I don't want to have
to put on my hunting suit kindof thing you know what I mean.
You can literally come in andbe comfortable and just and do

(01:40:24):
what you like to do.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
Talk to some spirits yep, I was part of a team.
We went to a theater that wasobviously closed and old and it
didn't have heat and we stayedthe night, slept on that, the
floor of the old theater,whatever, or tried to sleep on

(01:40:47):
the floor because the otherbuilding didn't have heat.
So, yeah, yeah, heat is veryimportant and obviously, like
that's, that's pretty awesome.
So, with the amount of peoplethat you've had go through there
, the groups and paranormalinvestigators and things like
that, like what, like, whatwould you say?

(01:41:08):
Your percentage of activity isMeaning, like people that have
gone through or stayed andnothing happened, versus people
that have stayed or been inthere for an amount of time, you
know that's, you know,indignant of you know know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
No, I'll just stop you right there.

Speaker 6 (01:41:33):
We have not yet had a group in here that got
absolutely nothing so 100 atthis point now, mind you, we're
only what four months in okay,we're only four months in so,
but as of today, we have not yethad a group in here that got
absolutely nothing and, quitehonestly, even like we've had,

(01:41:58):
and I mean, we all know like weall have different techniques
and we all look at thingsdifferently and some of us are
way more gung-ho than others.
Um, even some of the groupsthat have been in there that
aren't super like die hard, likelike us right, they're more

(01:42:20):
kind of just chit chatty, don'treally have a lot of equipment,
kind of are there just to kindof eat pizza and whatever, have
a good night, what.
They've even got things andthey're not actually really
investigating very hard.
They've even got stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
So yeah, well and yeah, and there is a level of
magnitude of activity like youcould have one group in here
that gets, you know, a couplehits on a rem pod, some
unexplained k K2s, a couple coolEVPs, but that's really about
all they get for the night.
Then you get the next group thatcomes in here that catches
three or four shadow figures, adisembodied voice, a big bang in

(01:43:03):
another room you know to.
Again three nights later,another team that comes in that
you know they get some tripwireactivity, some good
communication on a mag light, acouple EVPs and that's it.
And then two weeks later youget another group in here that
you know they leave so happy andtons of evidence and they can't

(01:43:26):
wait to show you all this stuff, to show you all this stuff.
And we've even found too that alot of people, even if they
don't have a super, overlyactive investigation, then it
was, you know, mediocre for them.
They did get some things, butthen found the bigger things
after reviewing all of theirevidence.
So yeah, like I said, thus farnobody so far has walked away

(01:43:48):
without something memorablehappening here.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
Now, does that include you guys?
No, Now what I'm saying isyou're there all the time.
So what is your percentage?
Like your group's?
100%, that's pretty good.
Those are good numbers, but, aswe all know, paranormal
activity does not go on and offlike a light switch.

(01:44:11):
Right, correct.
So what's your numbers?
What do?

Speaker 5 (01:44:17):
you guys do every day .
My number is 100%.
Right, really I have not Everytime I come in here.
Something happens Every singletime.
But I know spirit can feed offof my fear, because I am fearful
of some things.
I don't have that in check yet,which is why I always have to

(01:44:37):
have somebody with me.
But also, having someone withme validates what just happened
to me, because they'reexperiencing it with me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
Yeah, it's two for one Right.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
So 90% of the time I come here, my friend Brittany,
who is here with me tonight, isalways with me and she'll
experience everything that I'mexperiencing Now.
As far as Danielle goes, she'sactually come over here several
times on her own, so I can'tspeak for her on what her
percentage is.

Speaker 6 (01:45:06):
I'd probably say my percentage is 70%.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Still.
I mean you're talking.
I mean it's a pretty highnumber.
Seven out of ten times.
You know they say in baseballall you have to do is hit the
ball three out of ten times andyou're a success.
Four out of ten times you're ayou.
Four out of ten times you're afirst battle hall of famer, no
doubt.
Seven out of ten times you goin that house and something

(01:45:40):
happens to you.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
Brittany what's your percentage?

Speaker 6 (01:45:44):
There's been a couple times that I've been there
alone and nothing has happened.

Speaker 5 (01:45:47):
I would say your percentage is 90 to 100.
Yeah, Our teammate Brittanysaid every time she's been in
here something has happened.
100% of the time she said notalways something massive, but
it's always something.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
I'll be damned.
So now we'll get to.
Probably we get footsteps a lot, yeah, a lot Damned.
So now we'll get to.

Speaker 6 (01:46:11):
Probably we get footsteps a lot yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
A lot.
Oh yeah, I'm sure that's pretty.
I mean, footstep is a prettycommon activity.

Speaker 6 (01:46:24):
The dishwasher is pretty cool though too.

Speaker 5 (01:46:26):
Oh yeah, the clanging of pots and pans.
We get that a lot.
Like hear it audibly, or likeI'll just I'll just randomly
check in on the cameras to checkon the house at night.
Oh yeah, I hear that all thetime.

Speaker 6 (01:46:40):
We actually get a sound notification and she'll
pull it up and she'll be likeand then she'll hit record and
then she'll send it to me andshe's like listen to this, what
do you hear?
And I'll, I'll pick it up andI'll open it and I'll, I'll be
like somebody doing dishes.
She's like exactly, it's empty,there's nobody there.

Speaker 5 (01:47:04):
I'm like somebody's doing dishes or like the other
day we got like a big bang ofmetal, like yeah that was weird
and then, five minutes later,something that sounded like like
a hissing growl, but but it hadto have been right next to the
camera because none of the othercameras in the house picked it

(01:47:26):
up.
So, like occasionally, you'llget like a rice burner car drive
by that trips every singlecamera in this house.
Every single camera in thishouse will get a noise detection
from that, but that this day itsounded like it should have
been outside.
That's how loud it was, but nosound detection was detected

(01:47:49):
anywhere else in the house.

Speaker 6 (01:47:52):
Just in the kitchen.
Yeah, so that one was weird.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
So, and that's what's cool too, because people will
find stuff on their evidence.
And then they'll be like, hey,shauna, pull up the camera
footage in the bedroom at 102 AMand let me know if you hear or
see anything.
They'll be like hey, shauna,pull up the camera footage in
the bedroom at 1.02 am and letme know if you hear or see
anything.
And you know, it's cool to kindof correlate the evidence, to

(01:48:19):
say, oh yeah, this is what, andI can download it to my phone
and send the footage right overto them right in that moment and
then they can link it up withwhat they caught.
So it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Or, hey, we got a trigger on something and we
don't even charge for it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:33):
Yeah, no, we don't charge for that.
But yeah, we or they thinksomething was there and we pull
our footage up, doesn't meanthere wasn't something there,
but we'll say no, like we got notrips, no motion, no sound
detection, and that makes iteasier for them to move on to

(01:48:54):
the next.
So wow we're all about.
We're all about debunking andtrying to prove things to not be
found rather than them actuallybeing found.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
But it's gonna be kind of hard to you know, sit
there, debunk when you're livingin I mean we're not living, but
own that house if it's, if it'sthat active.
I mean, what do you?

Speaker 5 (01:49:17):
I mean there's only so much you could debunk well
there is, and when it becomesthe point of being unexplained
or, you know, unable to makefact or fiction out of it, I
mean, then you only have one oftwo ways to to go with that.
So you just have to, at thatpoint, use your best judgment
and if your intentions are true,then that's all that matters at

(01:49:39):
the end of the day.
And not everybody's going toalways agree with you.
Something could be totally 100evidence to you, but it could be
total bullshit to somebody else, like they're going to try to
explain that away in their ownway.
But my opinion to each is yourown.
It's all about your ownpersonal experience and how you
communicate with paranormal andyou're being respectful and

(01:49:59):
having a good time.
At the end of the day, that'sall that matters to us.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
Yep, you said at the beginning of this episode that
the reason why you have thathouse is because it was your
mom's dream to own a house, so100 let me ask you this uh, how

(01:50:24):
would your mom feel about thedoll's house?

Speaker 5 (01:50:28):
she would be ecstatic .
She would be here more than me.
She would have probably askedme if she could move in.
She would be ecstatic witheverything that we're doing, you
know, carrying on her group,having this haunted location.
Um, we're having a festivalhere in Loretto this summer for

(01:50:48):
her.
Oh, wow, yeah, so you know,it's just, it's right here, like
I, yeah, creep it Real, creepit Real.

Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
Festival this.

Speaker 5 (01:50:58):
June, june 21st, in Loretto.
We have some pretty big namescoming in.
We have Patty Negri coming in.
We have Santiago Cirillo fromthe Walking Dead coming in.
Oh, wow, we're going to havetons of vendors and some
podcasters and, yeah, just likelots of food vendors.

(01:51:19):
Good time fellowship, that waswhat my mom was all about
bringing people together in apositive way.
You know, togetherness andkindness was her big thing.
Don't forget the tattoo artist,babe.
Oh yeah, um in respect, oh yeahtattoos.

Speaker 3 (01:51:37):
Definitely, can't forget tattoos.
That's freaking awesome.
I was gonna say you know, Iwanted to ask you that before
leading into this, because we'rewe gotta wind this down.
Dw, who's tired yeah he isyawning like a mother over there
.

Speaker 5 (01:51:53):
Alright, he is like cropping me up.

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
Yeah, he's something else, jon's monotone voice puts
me to sleep.
That's probably why we have somany listeners.
They turn you on just beforethey go to bed.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
To be fair, that's what I would do, just saying.
I'm just saying, um, wherecould our wonderful listeners of
scolarius, because they're allover the place.
All over the place, if anybodyknows that, but all over, even,
even j, even, japan and France,the French, yeah, all over.

(01:52:35):
Where could they find you,meaning the Doss house?
Where can they find you?

Speaker 5 (01:52:42):
They can find us on Facebook the Doss house of
Loretto on Facebook, Instagram,TikTok of Loretto on Facebook,
Instagram, TikTok.
And we actually just had ourwebsite launched today, which I
haven't even got to tellDanielle about.
Good friend of ours, LarissaRex, has finished our website.

(01:53:02):
There's a couple of littlethings under construction, but
everything from booking thehouse to tickets for our special
events, for the festival,anything that we have up and
coming, any specials we might berunning at the house, anything
in regards to unique paranormal1.5, our ventures that we go on
upcoming podcasts, or justanything and everything in

(01:53:24):
regards to the Doss house andunique paranormal 1.5, you can
find us at the Doss house DashPA.5.
You can find us at the DossHouse.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
Dash PAcom.
Freaking awesome, we're on.

Speaker 6 (01:53:38):
YouTube as well, but that, oh yeah, we're struggling
with that.

Speaker 5 (01:53:41):
That's kind of yeah Slow moving.
We don't have enough viewersyet yeah, I hear you YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
We're on our second go around with youtube.
I'm testing it out before I doanything crazy.
So, um, yeah, just keep it inmind for later, but I'm just all
right.
So, with that being said, we,we do this thing as we close out
our show, and what that iscalled is this or that, and

(01:54:12):
basically we just ask youquestions.
We get to know you, get to knowyou in just a very superficial
way, just right below the skin,right about tattoo level, that's
just.
We just know you there.
Okay, all right, are you readyfor this or that?
And this is the cool thing,since there's two of you, you
both get to answer the question.

(01:54:33):
So, and wait, I got one morequestion, dw.
Is it my turn or is it yourturn?

Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
I think it's my turn.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
I think he needs something to put a little pep in
his step and get him up to thatget him up to that golden, that
fancy golden microphone he hasthere all right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
Last week we did each other no, I mean, oh, stop
saying things that aredisgusting.

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
That sounds bad gosh even this is why we're not a
couple, because I don't want tobe associated with that kind of
crap, no wonder he doesn't comeover to your house.
Right, thank you, danielle's,on my side.

Speaker 6 (01:55:20):
What's the actual?

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
He's my hetero life mate.
No, I'm not.
Okay, anyways.

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
John, you need to stop so I can do my.
I'm going to do this or thatAll right, this or that?

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
Danielle Shada, are you ready for this or that?
Ready.
All right, all right, do thatagain so.

Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
I got it.
I can handle this.
Thank you, go ahead All right.
Would you rather build asnowman or a sandcastle Sand,
would you rather?
Build a snowman or a sandcastle.
Sandcastle, oh, that was inunison.
Alright, we're having abarbecue.
Do you want a burger or a brat?

Speaker 5 (01:56:01):
Burger Meat is meat.

Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
Burger.

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
I'm going to go with the brat.

Speaker 4 (01:56:13):
Okay, okay, I'm gonna go with the brat.
Hmm, okay would you?
Rather ghost hunt with theghostbusters, or scooby-doo,
scooby-doo, scooby-doo that onewas a tough one.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
I did that last week.
That one, I don't know likethat.
That hurt that hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
Here's my philosophy my only motivation all right,
you've perfected a time machine.
Do you want to travel back to1825 or forward to 2225?

Speaker 3 (01:56:47):
back back you kind of thought?

Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
with the house you wanted.
Yeah, would you rather haveyour own personal butler or chef
?
Chef is it preferable to singin the shower or in the car?

Speaker 5 (01:57:12):
oh that isn't even fair, not for you, it's not me,
that's car I sing everywhere shedoes oh, if you haven't noticed
, that was my first word on thefirst phrase on the podcast
tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:57:29):
She sang it.

Speaker 5 (01:57:33):
I'm going to choose car just because I have to pick
one, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
Would you rather ride a roller coaster or the Ferris
wheel?
Roller coaster, nice.
All right, pirates or ninjasPirates.

Speaker 6 (01:57:54):
Yeah, definitely pirates.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
I dig the pirates Raiders.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
I think of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
That's cooler.
Alright, and our last one JohnOlsen, or lizzie borden oh shit,
john, I love you, but I'm goingwith lizzie borden I mean yeah
sorry bud, it's all about theparanormal man damn and I mean

(01:58:27):
yeah that okay.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
So, dw, are you at least a little happy?
That wasn't, listen, thatwasn't the who the hell?
You know, I haven't heard.
I have no idea who John Olsenis, who's John Olsen, and it
wasn't that one.

Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
But you, you have me being seconded by an axe
wielding murderer they wouldrather there be a slight chance
they'd get killed with a hatchetthan hang out with you.

Speaker 5 (01:58:58):
I did give you some love before.
I was like yeah, moving on tothe dead chick Fair enough.

Speaker 4 (01:59:06):
I just like.
Any time they have to thinkabout it, you know when they go
ummm, go ummm.
What should be an obviousanswer.
They're like well, we don'tknow if she did it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
So yeah, no one's for sure that she gave the 40
whacks, but.

Speaker 6 (01:59:28):
But I want to go try to find out.
I know, sure that she gave the40 whacks Not for sure, but Well
, I want to go try to find out.
I know we could just call.

Speaker 5 (01:59:38):
John, we could just call John after.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
Yeah, damn See.

Speaker 4 (01:59:42):
Still Well, and actually can't you go to, Can't
you stay at the house?
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:59:52):
We're actually going there in March, oh cool, okay
Are you going to?

Speaker 4 (01:59:57):
stay the night.
Yeah, we are.

Speaker 6 (02:00:00):
It's my wife's birthday gift, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:04):
Oh yeah, march, Wait, is that right?

Speaker 5 (02:00:07):
Yeah, you got it.
Yep, you got it.
Hangover day.

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
Yeah, yeah.
March 18th the day after StPaddy's yeah, wow, my daughter's
March 8th.
Okay, you got it.
It's the track time.
I'm assuming, alright, well,you know what she might be a

(02:00:35):
track time.
I'm assuming.
Assuming, yeah, all right, well, you know what.
It was a really fun idea, uh,getting you guys on here and
talking about the dots house.
I love the history, I love thefact that you know you got a
pretty much a grumpy ass sweeneytodd running around.
Uh, you know I I'm interestedin man.
I gotta get you guys back onsometime in the future so we can

(02:00:59):
get more long form into this,because there's a lot of stuff
to unpack, a lot of unpackingthe house I don't want to learn
yeah, I don't think we evenscratched the surface, to be
fair and we haven't because

Speaker 5 (02:01:12):
we literally have the surface to be fair, and we
haven't because we literallyhave only been in here a couple
months.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
Yeah, and we'll have to talk after the Lizzie Borden
house and see how that goes andthen see if maybe there's a
possibility somebody would pickme before Lizzie.

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
I don't know, I don't know.
I'm talking to somebody in'tknow.
You know, I don't know, lizzie,probably not, that's true,
that's true.
Well, alright, I hate to saythis, but it's getting to be
Betty by time.
So, thank you, I don't knowwhat you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (02:01:49):
We're getting ready to go investigate.
Oh yeah, what right.

Speaker 3 (02:01:53):
Where I met by Betty Bye was just somewhere else than
here.

Speaker 6 (02:02:01):
It's definitely Betty Bye.
Some of us have to get up at 5am and go to surgery.

Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
Well, I cut meat sometimes.
Is it surgery?

Speaker 4 (02:02:11):
Either way, way, it's all cool all right way to make
your job feel way more importantthan the rest of us.

Speaker 3 (02:02:17):
So yeah, no, it's, it's what I do.
Anyways, that's what I do.
Thank you very much for comingon.
It was a lot of fun.
Um, I know you have otherpodcasts that you might be doing
, but you they're not going tobe as fun as this one, I
guarantee you.
But it's, it's all cool.
Thank you guys for coming on.

Speaker 5 (02:02:37):
It was great thanks for having us thanks for having
us guys you're very welcome.

Speaker 3 (02:02:41):
I got one more thing to say, dw, I'm gonna do it
right?

Speaker 4 (02:02:45):
yep, all right.
Well, make sure you hit theright button.

Speaker 3 (02:02:49):
You know?
I guess you probably know whatthis means, because I know what
this means.
That means that you guys havebeen amazing, we have been
Scalarius and we are out LaterLATER.

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