Ep. 69 Ghost in a Box: Real Haunted Items

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What makes an object truly "haunted"? In this riveting exploration of paranormal artifacts, we dive deep with Quinn from Real Haunted Items to uncover the fascinating world of collecting, investigating, and rehoming objects with spiritual attachments.

Quinn reveals the surprising science behind what makes certain materials more likely to hold paranormal energy. Forget plastic or iron—it's natural materials like wood and ivory that serve as conduits for spiritual energy. The most compelling evidence? A Victorian-era baby coffin currently under investigation that consistently triggers REM pods regardless of location, and a mirror from Pennsylvania that caused nightmares so intense it was eventually sold to a priest better equipped to handle its dark energy.

The conversation takes an unexpected scientific turn when Quinn explains why hauntings intensify at night. UV rays, it seems, interfere with the EMF bubbles that spirits need to manifest—explaining not only why activity peaks after dark but also why full moons temporarily quiet paranormal activity. This intersection of physics and the paranormal offers a refreshing perspective on phenomena often dismissed as purely supernatural.

Beyond the chilling stories and scientific theories, Quinn shares insights into the business model of Real Haunted Items, which functions more as a caretaker network than a traditional retail operation. Items change hands through the Paranormal Asset Network (PAN) and undergo rigorous testing before being offered to customers. Interestingly, it's often the most skeptical buyers—those purchasing small "mystery bags" containing photographs or film fragments—who end up returning items after experiencing unexpected activity.

Whether you're a dedicated paranormal enthusiast or a curious skeptic, this episode challenges conventional thinking about the objects that might carry spiritual energy around us. Ready to question what ordinary items in your home might have extraordinary attachments? Listen now, then check out Real Haunted Items on social media, eBay, or Etsy—if you dare.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:27):
What's going on?
This is galerius, I am johnolsen, and with me, as always,
is dw, the debilitating wartserene hey you, you gotta, if no
no, no, I my thing, and that'show I do it.
It was silent, though I've seenit, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
The cans make more of a sound.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
So this one's a bottle.
What are you drinking?
What are you drinking?

Speaker 5 (01:54):
So I thought I grabbed one of my Not your
Father's root beer.
It's a regular root beer.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm sorry, wow, root beer.
It's a regular root beer.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
I'm sorry, wow you're just huh, I know I'm I'm living
on the edge today.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
You are you are living on the edge, uh dw um
you'll never, guess what I'mdrinking, oh um sauvignon blanc
oh no, I was wrong.
See, if you had been drinkingthat, I would have been
surprised.
All you would have heard is andthen you know, and then, yeah,

(02:34):
it would have been better thanthe silent opening that you had.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Uh, so hey, I know you're criticizing my opening,
all right I don't want to tellpeople.
Oh yes.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Okay, why not?
Because you never know, maybeit's an opportunity at some
point to be paid.
But I'm just going to say thisthe THC beverage that I have
tonight is freaking, amazing anddangerous.
Is freaking amazing anddangerous, uh, because it tastes

(03:11):
just like a beverage that weall had as well.
It's gonna say kids, but maybemaybe a little bit older.
You know, I don't know when didthey come out?
When, when?
Okay, I'm just gonna say ittastes like ecto cooler.
When did ecto cooler actuallycome out?
out After the first movie orbefore the second.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
I thought it was after the first Okay, and that
was when.
Was it 89?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
84 was the first one, 89 was the second one, but I
feel Ecto, I think Ecto Coolercame out before the second one.
But I could be wrong.
Well, if they're coming out.
Yeah, either way Between 84 and89 is when it came out.
Either way it's badass, ittastes freaking amazing and it

(03:59):
is legitimately dangerousbecause it's a.
It tastes no, you can't tasteanything, that's.
I mean, there are some thcbeverages that I have that you
can kind of taste the, the weedin it.
Essentially, this you cannot,and it's just straight like

(04:22):
having an after the cooler andyeah, they're like 10 milligram
cans, but they taste so goodthat you don't just have 10.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
You might have 10 cans, well, and isn't five like
one serving, so 10 is alreadytwice a serving like two
servings.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, okay, because in I can't remember what state
it was, was it minnesota or iowa, I can't remember which one it
was that they, uh, they saidthat five milligrams is the
highest they can go.
But you can have a 10 milligramcan, because so I had it in

(05:07):
Iowa.
Here you can have damn near asmuch as you want.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Because a can is technically two servings.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Is that their philosophy?
It works out that way.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
You know what that reminds me of?
I was thinking it's not THC,but have you seen the Duff?
I think they're energy drinks.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
And it's in a can that looks exactly like Duff
from Simpsons.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
They are not that good, oh you've had them.
I have not.
Well, did I taste it?
I think I did.
I think I taste it, I think Idid, I think I did.
I know the kids did.
We got the kids each one, so Idon't remember it being that
great, you know, I think it.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
One of those things where I feel like people are
going to buy it for the look ofthe can not necessarily for the
taste.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
So absolutely, I agree 100% on that.
Everybody knows this.
I'm not a big doctor guy.
I don't go to the doctorbecause I hate the doctor.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Only go to the doctor if you have to, because you're
about to die and you're beingdragged there into now.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Or that too.
I'm not even a fan of Dr Pepperor Dr Scholls or Dr Scholls.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
I mean or Dr Doolittle, or Dr Doolittle, yeah
, or Dr Doolittle.
But what was the joke?
The Mitch Hedberg joke that DrScholes didn't need a degree.
Because why does it take adegree to know that stepping on
something soft will feel good?

(06:57):
Exactly Something like that.
I would have bought that from aMr Scholes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I went to the doctor Kind of dual purpose Got life
insurance.
That's right.
Life insurance, the queenconsort and the kids will be
taken care of.
But you know, if I just happento be, you know, an untimely
demise on my, on my part haveyou ever had life insurance

(07:31):
before?
I did, but I was younger and Ididn't have to go to the doctor
or any of that stuff, likewhatever.
They were like yeah, you'refine With this one, I did.
They wanted blood work and this, that and the other thing,
because previous John who was onlife insurance didn't have

(07:55):
horrible COVID, didn't haveeverything else known to man
that you can think of, butanyway.
So they're like yeah, youbetter go.
So I did, and here's what's upnow.
They didn't tell me that theywere taking blood.

(08:17):
Well, I should have known.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
You know, based on the fact it's like a physical or
whatever yeah um, but theydidn't tell me they were taking
blood, so I ate before I wentand you know if you you're, I,
you're supposed to fast, like 12hours, I think, and which is,
and the only reason I rememberthat is I usually schedule my

(08:41):
appointments in the morning andso that way they just have to
ask me have you had anything toeat or drink today, like this
morning, have you had any coffee?
I usually say no and then I'mgood, right.
So if they and the thing is I Ihave, um, I'm like uh, uh, the

(09:03):
kind of concerned.
I'm not diabetic, but like they, not yet type of pre, whatever,
anyways, um, but also like highcholesterol.
So for me, and that that's afamily thing, like I don't eat
lots of butter or whatever, butum, I I've, I've ever since I

(09:27):
was, ever since I've gotten mycholesterol tested.
Since I was a kid it's beenhigh, so it, and my mom has it,
my dad has it, it's a familything.
Um, point being, when I go tothe doctor because I go more
than once every 10 years, johnwhen I go to the doctor, I know

(09:48):
there's a good chance they'regoing to be doing some blood
work.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Fair, I didn't know.
I knew they were going to testmy urine.
I knew that because you know.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Well, when it comes out green, yeah, they should
probably test it it never comesout green.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I mean they could probably get high off of it, but
that's one thing.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
There's THC in your stool.
That's something to beconcerned about.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
So they took my blood and, first of all, that was an
experience in itself, because myveins roll and they could not
get a vein.
They couldn't Really.
Yeah, I was like a pincushionexperience in itself, because my
veins roll and they could notget a vein.
They couldn't really.
Yeah it.
Um, I was like a pin cushion.
I came out I had like 14freaking holes in me, uh, so
that there was that.

(10:36):
It doesn't bother me, theydon't, they never.
Needles don't bother me, um,but so they took it and I got
the results actually this pastweekend.
So I am going to share thoseresults with all of you.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
So just so you know I'm sure this is the highlight
of everyone's like.
Oh, I'm sure people put downtheir pen and paper and they're
like I gotta hear this theymight want to turn off the tv I
want to put you know, okay, youknow it, it's a paranormal and
comedy podcast, right?

Speaker 3 (11:12):
so?

Speaker 5 (11:12):
and this is neither.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, hold on, just wait.
What I'm saying could lead intothe paranormal, just throwing
it out there.
All right, in in one way oranother.
All right.
So my cholesterol was a littlehigh.
Okay, uh, what is the ldl andthe hdl or something like that?
Right, they were a little high,do you remember what it was.

(11:34):
It wasn't completely off thecharts, do you remember?

Speaker 5 (11:38):
what it?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
was uh, 256, okay, somewhere around there.
So I mean it's a little hardthat's.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
That's actually around where mine is.
I think mine's a little lower,but that's where, and which over
200 is high is high.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, quote unquote.
But I mean, I think most peoplenowadays are going to run, you
know, 250s I think.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah, well, and and the thing is, the conversation I
had with my doctor was theylook at several things and
cholesterol is one of them.
They basically take um age,blood pressure, so on and so
forth, all these things, put itinto a chart, hit, enter and
they come up with a percentageof, like, your likelihood of

(12:27):
heart attack or something likethat.
Yeah and above, I want to saylike 10 percent or whatever is
concerning so so obviously theyweren't too concerned, but
obviously the numbers weren'tconcerning enough.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Uh, so it was that my blood pressure was fine, it was
like 140 over no, that's notbad.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
That's better than mine, so and then I get to the
triglycerides.
Uh, triglycerides, that, ifever anybody who knows or don't
know, or it's the fat that's inyour blood, right, um, which is
also based on sugar and you knowwhatever, zero to 150,

(13:15):
obviously zero, you're dead.
You know right, you're notgonna have zero.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
But no one has zero, right.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
So zero to 150 is normal.
Uh, you know the number, but I'mgonna say it now uh, now that's
what I said like I ate likethree like peanut butter wraps
before I went.
So I mean I think the numbersare skewed quite a bit, but just

(13:43):
throwing it out there, zero to150 is normal, my triglycerides
450.
So, needless to say, old john,like just immediately, was like
okay, well, wake up call.
Perfectly like, I'm good withit.
Like I said, it could lead tothe paranormal, because I am

(14:07):
whoo, I'm one stressful day, youknow, from being a ghost.
So with yeah, um, just lettingeverybody know I'm gonna stick
around as long as I can.
But I mean, if one day dw isjust on the show by himself
crying, you'll know why here'sthe thing if I'm ever on the
show by himself crying, you'llknow why.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Here's the thing If I'm ever on the show by myself
because you're not here, it willbe the last episode.
The last episode will be mesaying John's triglycerides were
at 1,500.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
And he went by.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
I can't do this anymore.
I agree, it would basically bethat.
And here's the thing I don'twant this anymore.
I agree, it would basically bethat.
And here's the thing.
I don't want this to happen tome.
If something were to happen tome, I don't know if you'd have a
show, really, because the showis the, the discord between the
two of us exactly, we are theparanormal odd couple and, by

(15:06):
the way, I don't know we are theparanormal odd couple and, by
the way, hopefully they won'tnotice a disruption in episodes.
But we are actually going to begone for a while, but we're
going to plan ahead and haveextra episodes in the chamber.

(15:26):
Basically, where are you going?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
by the way.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
I was going to go to Colorado but I'm not.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
It'll be okay, we'll figure something out.
We'll put some bullets in thatchamber and fire those babies
off.
On Wednesdays.
We have some other things toget to, but we have to get to a
guest.
Uh, first of all, I want tothrow this out there.
Uh, if anybody would like anymerch from us, please go to

(15:56):
crowdmadecom.
Forward, slash collectionsforward, slash glarius pod and
get all sorts of really coolmerch.
You can get dw's here's thething t-shirt.
He said it three times alreadytoday.
Uh, you can get my t-shirt andor hoodie that says I'm not

(16:17):
trying to offend you, I don'tcare if I do.
Um, you can get that.
We have hats.
We have all sorts of hats.
We have the, the beanies, whichyou probably need right now,
because I mean it snowed like 14feet in the last couple days.
Uh, also like, we have regularhats, uh, cups and uh, dog

(16:39):
leashes and dog bowls.
We have.
We have everything you'd want,but it says scolarius on it, so
you probably don't want it.
Either way, we have it.
Everything's like $30 or less.
Please just go to Scolarius.
No, don't go to Scolarius.
Go to crowdmadecom forward,slash collections forward, slash

(17:00):
Scolarius pod and get the stuff.
What's your favorite t-shirt DW.
What's the one you like themost?

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Well, we have the.
I have no idea who John Olsenis.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Oh yeah, you like that one too.
I see that I understand.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
It's in a t-shirt and a hoodie.
A hoodie, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I like hoodies.
I'm wearing one right now see ohyeah, yeah, uh, anyway, uh, and
you know you're doing all thatand you're like, oh man,
scolarius is pretty awesome, butI, you know what?
I?
I like the host and the co-hostof scolarius, like the
co-ghosts, I like them both.
I wonder what they're doingright now.

(17:48):
That's what you're thinking.
I'm sure it is.
You can find out what we'redoing.
First of all, you can go to DWSerene Comedian on Facebook.
You can find me at John OlsonComedian 2.0 on Facebook.
You can find us both togetheron Facebook, but we're not a
couple.
But we're not a couple.
You can find us at theScolarius page.
Also, we do have a TikTokScolarius8, and an Instagram

(18:14):
Scolarius.
There's a theme here.
It's all Scolarius, all right.
And if you want to email us,please do.
It's scolariuspod at gmailcom.
And if you want to listen toevery single episode that we
have, you can do that atscolariaspodbuzzsproutcom.

(18:37):
Yeah, all right.
So we're going to get the showon the road, or, as my old man
would say, the show on the road.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
Wow, even for your caliber, that was pretty good it
was.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
I mean, if I could only write them that good Anyway
.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Hey, side note, he's got some shows coming up, so if
you want to hear more of thatHopefully they're better at the
shows.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Oh my god.
Exactly, I would hope so, myword, people are paying for that
.
They're not paying for this.
They pay to see me at showsSome, probably, not me so much
but they pay somebody to seesomeone and I'll be there.
So it'll, it'll work all right.
So you know, I love what we dohere.

(19:37):
I love the fact that me and youyou, dw, my hetero life partner
how me and you, how we getalong.
It's a whole lot of fun.
People like that stuff and I.
I like the fact that we get totalk to people about ghost shit
and I like the people.
I, you know, I like the factthat we get to talk to
paranormal groups and and thingslike that.

(19:58):
And we actually, a few monthsback, we got to talk to somebody
who had a like basically ahaunted museum, right, had
really cool artifacts andeverything steve hummel, right,
yeah, in, uh, west virginia.
But now today, today, we get totalk to somebody who has a
whole lot of real haunted items.

(20:21):
Yeah, and it's actually in thename real haunted items.
We have quinn from orlando,florida.
Quinn, how are you today?

Speaker 4 (20:34):
I'm doing great.
How are you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (20:36):
doing good we're just hanging out and you know, uh,
talking to each other.
It's kind of I would.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
I would definitely be doing a lot better if I had one
of those drinks that you've got.
I think I'm gonna change whatI'm drinking to one of those,
because that that sounds betterit is amazing, I'm.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
I'm not gonna lie.
I don't know if you can get itdown there, but, uh, maybe when
we get off the show I'll tellyou where I got it and you can
hook it up on the uh, on theinterwebs and see if you can get
something.
I don't know.
Is it legal in Florida?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Man, that is such a confusing topic for Florida.
Okay, it's sometimes dependingon who you are and what you got
on you and what card you got,and if you paid in the last six
months, you know it's all it's aconstantly changing issue and
sometimes we vote to go like,yeah, we're gonna pass that, and
it passes with the majority,and they go, we don't care, it's
still not gonna pass, you know,and that's literally what

(21:31):
happened this year.
Uh, so so, and then now, now wegot we've got great lawyers
that sue the heck out of thegovernment and make it sort of
legal, so they're in the middleof doing that.
So that is in.
That's a confusing subject.
I.
I'm going to be real.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Well, I mean, I understand, I get it.
I don't, yeah, I can't.
It's what they do with whatthey're doing now with the
edibles and drinks and thingslike that.
I mean, yeah, you can get it atVegas anytime, just like that.
You know drinks, edibles,cookies, you know anytime, and

(22:05):
just like that.
You know drinks, edibles,cookies.
Uh, you know gummies,everything you know um, but like
minnesota's doing okay, likemichigan is amazing, you know.
When it comes to that stuff, uh, I, I don't know, californ,
colorado, oregon, I think, islegal.

(22:25):
I think I don't know how manystates are actually 100% legal,
but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
That gets more confusing.
I don't know.
I think it's a constantlyevolving one.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, I mean, if it's not legal and I give you the
address to where you could shipit, I mean, you know, if I give
you the web address in order toorder them, for you to get them,
it's probably gonna, you know,cost you some money, I'm
assuming, in fines and whateverelse.
But I mean, I think it'd beworth it because it tastes
amazing, it's great, really isuh.

(22:58):
But you know, I digress.
We should get going into thereason why we brought you here,
and that's uh, to talk aboutyour stuff.
You have a lot of stuff, am Iright?

Speaker 4 (23:12):
um, I keep some stuff .
Uh, we, we keep some stuff inthe warehouse, but we we kind of
, uh, keep things moving after acertain amount of time.
Um, so we don't really hold onto too many things for forever.
We like to kind of keep themmoving and help re-home haunted
items.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
You say re-home, so I'm assuming that you get stuff.
Is it donated or are youpurchasing it, Like how does it
work?

Speaker 4 (23:41):
So we have a couple different avenues that we go
through to get our haunted items.
Some of them come frominvestigations that we do.
Normally they're investigationsthat we're asked to go do and
then we will help remove them ifthat is what the people who
have hired us or have asked usto come in to investigate have
done it.
And then we also work with PAN,which is the Paranormal Asset

(24:04):
Network, pan, and it's kind of alow-key group of people that
exchange haunted items fromtheir various investigations.
We kind of work with them asone of their distributors to
kind of keep them moving.
So we have a couple differentavenues that we get them from.
We have bought a couple of themin the past, but it's normally

(24:24):
just to assist.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Uh, we kind of act as a dealer of the the haunted
items you know it reminds me of,to be honest, and I don't know
if you guys are into I know dwwasn't, but if you're into, back
in the day uh, the oldwrestling tape trading is is
kind of like you know where youwould get a tape of an event or

(24:50):
whatever and then you would, youknow, trade it with somebody
else, and then they had somestuff from like Japan and then
you'd have that and then you'dtrade it with somebody else and
all that really cool stuff.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
It sounds like it's pretty similar to what you guys
are doing, probably not so muchwith the trading, but it's
changing hands quite a bit right, I might have to look into that
to see if I can get some uh,get it, give us some marketing
strategies I'm going to be realto help us with our own you know
process of everything.
Um, but yeah, we, we just uh,we kind of use it to uh

(25:23):
partially fund our owninvestigations.
Um, finding people who respectthe haunted items and get them
into new hands, that are willingto kind of be the caretakers of
something that has somesignificance, and people who
just want to have experiences oftheir own kind of helps them
hook them up with that.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
You know I'm going to pull back the curtain just a
little bit.
You know me and you.
We chatted about, you know,this opportunity.
I'm going to say it's anopportunity, an opportunity for
you to be on Scalarious.
Anyway, we chatted about youbeing on here and you had said
to me like hey, shoot me your,your address and I'll send you

(26:05):
an item.
That's right, yep, and and and.
So I was like, well, I, Ilooked at the, the queen consort
, and I was like, hey, you know,we can get a haunted.
She's like no, please, notdon't.
No, it's I.
She just can't handle like theenergy type stuff when it, when

(26:25):
it comes to that, she doesn'twant anything bad up in here,
even if it's a nice little oldlady she's.
She just don't want to seesomebody walking through her, uh
, her house in the in the middleof the night.
You know what I'm saying, but um, oh yeah, oh yeah, but no, it
was really cool and I was likedamn, that'd be freaking awesome
.
I would love to do it.
I'm sure dw would just love ittoo.
Oh, no, no, no, no no you think?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
you had your problems with your significant other.
Uh yeah, my wife would not havebeen on board with it.
Like, even even if I saidhere's a paper clip that might
have the spirit of a puppy in it, she'd be like, nope, nope,

(27:10):
we're not even going to attemptthat.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
No, I'd end up, my luck, I'd end up with like
Charles Manson's molar orsomething like that, I don't
know, like horrible energy onthis one and plaque.
Oh god, it was horrible, uh,but no.
So all right, you have a littlewarehouse, you, you go through

(27:37):
the paranormal network there andand you have things that people
have obviously in their, intheir house.
There's an issue, so explain alittle bit about that.
You go and investigate and youend up with these items.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah, so like, uh, for example, the items that you
received, they're kind of from,um, we call them one of our, one
of our little grab bags, right,um, so those all came from, uh,
uh, an investigation that wedid up in Minnesota.
Uh, lake crystal, like crystal,minnesota, right.
So we did up in Minnesota, lakeCrystal, Lake Crystal,
minnesota, right.
So we were up there and thoseall came from an area where
there was a bunch of scatteredpieces and there was a lot more

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activity right around the area.
They were found and we havefound that when items spend a
lot of time in an area that hasactivity, when you remove those
items and put them in differentsituations, they will also show
activity.
So we collected those items andhave brought them back and
investigated them for a whileand putting them under different

(28:38):
situations eliminating UV rays,making sure there's no other
EMF signals in the area you cankind of like see things start to
happen you know, if you want toexperience something.
So those came from around there.
You got like a photograph andsome film and pages of some

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books, right, and those itemswere scattered all together and,
even though separate from eachother, they've shown to have
experiences.
Wow.
So that's kind of how we do itis we go in and we just notice
that some items tend to holdenergy a lot more.
So we like to just see what wecan do with that and what we can

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learn from it, and after we'veinvestigated something for a
while, we want to hand it off toother people to see if they
also end up experiencingsomething.
So that's kind of one of theone of the reasons the network
exists, a little bit well,that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
And you said Lake Crystal, that's just west of
Mankato.
Uh, right, I mean, that's,that's where you were.
Uh, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, wow,that's not too far, it's a
stone's throw.
I mean, it's not too far fromus at all.
Well, it's far enough, it's away, but it's not too far.

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Wow, okay, I didn't know youwere up in Minnesota, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
I guess you guys didn't know you were up there
and it was cold.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, we are in Minnesota, so you go all around.
I mean, obviously, if you're inMinnesota, you go all over the
nation.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
then oh yeah, whenever I can, we send
different people to differentplaces.
I just returned from a trip toTombstone where I was doing a
couple investigations.
Can't really reveal too muchabout those yet, but I've been
to Tombstone a couple times.
I absolutely love it there, soI can't reveal too much about
that one.
But yeah, we like to hop around.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
We take turns.
Different groups, differentmembers of our team, Wow so how
many members of your team do youhave?

Speaker 4 (30:40):
We have a little bit fluctuating, but we keep about
10 people give or take.
We have some full-time people,some part-time people, some
people that just help us hereand there with investigations.
So it kind of fluctuates, butaround 10.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Wow, that's pretty cool.
So I want to get obviously toyou and and your the business
that you have here.
So is this what you dofull-time?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
um, I do some other part-time work outside of it,
but it's like gig work and somesome fun crafty things.
I don't really, uh, I don'thave a full-time job outside of
this, I just have some otherpart-time work that keeps me
sustained.
Along with this, most of thepretty much everything from the
business goes back to supportingits own investigations.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Fair enough.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
We all do other stuff outside of it to keep ourselves
going, but all pitch in to keepthis.
Our business mostly runs oneBay and Etsy.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Nice, okay, let's get into some of the items.
I want to talk about, items you, you, okay, let's.
We'll start here.
An item you previously had thatwas just off the charts All

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right.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
So there was this, there was this mirror, that that
I held onto for a while, thatwe we end up selling to a
private collector that actuallyhappens to be a priest.
I know every time it comes intoit, you know it feels a little,
a little less comfortable,right.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Well, I mean it depends on anyway a little less
comfortable, right?
Yeah, well, I mean it dependsanyway.
Yeah, go all right.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
I I almost wonder if he was like trying to uh, uh,
exercise the demons or whatever,or trying to, like you know,
get rid of them or something,and it was almost practice for
him, or he's a priest with avery weird hobby, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, not the weirdest hobby for a priest, but
anyway go ahead.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
So we got this actually through the Paranormal
Asset Network right andoriginally.
All we know is it came fromAltoona, pennsylvania.
We don't really know muchbeyond that, but all we've been
told is that everyone that hadhad this mirror for extended
amount of time had dark thoughtsand became uncomfortable, right
, so we kept this in ourwarehouse for quite a while.

(33:16):
Right, we did every kind ofinvestigation we could with this
.
I think we had to sit aroundour warehouse in different areas
for about 10 months, and sofinally I was like OK, I don't
believe any of it, so I took ithome.
Um, terrible idea, you don'twant to sleep in the same room
as this mirror.
Um, wow, I'm not a person thathas dreams or nightmares like

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ever about anything, because, um, as you know, the thc tends to
do that a little bit, right, uh,right, it blocks that pretty
well, so I tend to not havethose Right.
Right, it blocks that prettywell, so I tend to not have
those.
Every night, that thing was inmy home.
I had a terrible nightmare thewhole time, and then those just
creeped into the day thoughts,giving me very dark thoughts the
whole time.

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It only stopped when thatmirror got removed, and that's
why we ended up finding someonethat we found was more equipped
to deal with something like that.
We that's not necessarilysomething we put out that is um
safe for everyone, um, we try toonly put out things that
definitely have experiences, butnot dark experiences, because

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we don't want to be a danger tosociety, so like that's.
That's one of the items that wehad.
That kind of like reminds youof the forces you play with
sometimes, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
What interests me in that is okay.
So was this priest?
Is he practicing in paranormal?

Speaker 4 (34:42):
I think it's more of a side hobby for him.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
It's not like his.
No, he is a normal, like priest.
This is just something that ishis, so private interest as well
.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
What dw said is that he was probably, I mean right
yeah he's.
You're not going to want tobring in something that's going
to bring dark energy and unlessyou're trying to, uh, not stop,
but maybe contain the energy, somaybe that's going to bring
dark energy.
And unless you're trying to, uh, not stop, but maybe contain
the energy, so maybe that's whathe was doing practicing.
It's kind of cool though yeahwow, so have you ever sold to

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somebody who is well known?
Somebody who is well known.
I, I don't, I don't think so,okay, okay, I'm just asking if
good old zach baggins got any ofhis stuff from you you know,

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what I never know.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
You never know people could be using some, some
pseudonames online.
I don't necessarily know who'sbuying my stuff.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Okay, I suppose.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, fair.
Have you ever had anythingother than the mirror that
literally scared you or anybodyelse on your team?

Speaker 4 (36:02):
to you know there are definitely items that have
scared every single person on myteam at some point, or not
necessarily items, butdefinitely experiences out in
the field.
I'd say the only other one thattruly gave me a fright, and
it's just because I'm kind of a,I'm a tinkerer, I like to
tinker with random things.
Right, I like to.

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I'm a little bit mechanicallyinclined and we had this music
box that would randomly justturn on and it drove me so nuts
that I deassembled the thing andI couldn't figure out why it
would turn on.
And then I rebuilt the thingand a couple of days later it
would just start turning back onagain and I deassembled it
again and I couldn't figure thatout.

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It had no way to turn on and itwould just turn on.
So that one was just personallyscary to me, because I'm not
used to finding mechanicalthings I can't figure out.
Okay, I said, but so like scary, no, no, maybe that, maybe that
item was haunted, maybe itwasn't, but it definitely
bothered me nice, all right.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
So let's go through the items themselves.
Like what is your?
I?
I would assume dolls.
Right, you have dolls, probablya lot of dolls we have had a
couple porcelain dolls comethrough.
Yeah okay, um, and you alreadysaid music box and things like
that, anything weird like,because that stuff's normal,

(37:30):
right, you'd be like what islike a haunted toilet seat or or
any anything like that no,here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
So, so what we've noticed is I, I it tends to need
to be a natural product, right,it needs to be something that
is some sort of natural material.
So we're not going to getsomething like a toilet seat,
right, because that's probablyplastics.
It's not going to hold on tothat it obviously can't be
something that is iron.
It can't be any mineral thatholds too much salt, right.

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So we are looking at thedifferent items that are
possible to hold on to this, onto any energy.
I won't necessarily call it aspirit, but whatever is doing
this, there's only certain typesof items that will hold on to
it.
Um, but we've had, um likewe've had a lot of shadow boxes
come through, um that peoplehave prayed to for some amount

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of time, um, indulgence boxes,if you're familiar with those uh
, no, I'm not.
But okay, indulgent just means,like you know you want to those
boxes are often kind of uh,they're, they're associated with
very specific religiouspractices.

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Um, for example, catholicismdoes it sometimes.
Um, but it's an object thatsomeone prays to for a long, a
long enough time that we thinkthat could also instill an
amount of energy into it thatcauses these interactions to
happen.
Whether that be with EVP, emf,an REM pod, whatever is causing
it is definitely latching ontothese natural products or these

(39:05):
natural materials.
Latching onto these naturalproducts or these natural
materials, and whether that'sfrom a large energy escaping
from someone praying or someonepassing a large violent event,
whatever that is seems to grasponto those pretty well.
But yeah, so anything that'llhold onto that.
So we've had those shadow boxescome through indulgence boxes,

(39:27):
the debuck boxes.
Really you had debuck boxes gothrough indulgence boxes, um,
the debug boxes really.
Yeah, dimmock boxes go throughthere.
Oh yes, we've had quite a fewof those.
Those are, uh, those are common.
Not all of them show usanything, so we don't send all
of them out.
Some of them we just kind ofpass through other vendors that
we're just like okay, we don'tthink these are actually holding
on to anything, um, but if, ifwe end up selling them, then we

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have gotten some sort ofinteraction with them wow.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
So I mean a lot of people think that I mean I could
, whatever, that a dybbuk boxautomatically means it's a
negative energy and I don't, Idon't know, I don't think that's
the truth.
Uh, as you just said, like someof your stuff didn't even
really have anything thathappened with them, you know.

(40:14):
So I don't know.
Like yeah, once you hear DirkVox, you're like whoo, you know,
ears perk up, right.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
No, I've definitely experienced a couple that seem
to have negative energies.
Okay.
Negative forces behind them but, like I said, we tend to not.
We avoid sending out anythingthat gives us that negative side
.
Okay, we just want people to beable to have experiences, not
have experiences that make themnever want to play with
paranormal again.
Right, we don't want to scarepeople and never want to play

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with paranormal again.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Right, we don't want to scare people, which is kind
of weird in a way, because yourname is real haunted items.
So therefore, I mean right offthe bat, wouldn't you think you
know other than a collector?

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Anyway, have you ever been to Think of anything else
that we're going to use the wordhaunted in?
Okay, commercially, what islike haunted things that we're
going to talk about iscommercially.
Anything that's haunted anymoreis something that can also
entertain.
Yeah, it's fun, right?
So part of selling these itemsis so that people have

(41:24):
experiences that makes them wantto investigate this more, makes
them want to look into it more.
You know, even if it's notnecessarily paranormal, you have
an experience with a Dybbuk boxthat we send you right and that
might make you be like huh, I'mgoing to look into cryptids.
I want to start thinking aboutUFOs more.
I want to investigate, I wantto stare at the sky and see
something that I haven't seenbefore.
I want to go out and huntBigfoot.

(41:46):
You know, whatever it makes youwant to do, I'm all for it.
We just want people to questionit.
They get one of these items.
They might have that experiencethat they've never gotten
before.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
So can you?
Are you guaranteeing anexperience?
No, we.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
We cannot guarantee experiences, because even for us
some of these items we've hadto put in different locations to
get them to do something.
But it's just a better chanceof it than you've had before.
We won't send it out if wehaven't had an experience.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
So you guys do the goop and the toaster thing Is
that what you do with your items.
Before you set them off, makesure that they dance with Jackie
Wilson.
The goop in the toaster, that'sa reference to.
Ghostbusters 2.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Where there was negative energy around the city.
It was the slime that creatednegative energy.
They put the slime in thetoaster and the toaster danced
to jackie will okay, okay, it'sbeen a long time so that's why I
mean it.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, trust me, the reference fits all right.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Well, we're not out there busting any ghosts, so all
right all right, that's cool,so it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
okay, so so you have dolls.
How about Ouija boards?

Speaker 4 (43:12):
So Ouija boards are Okay.
So here's the thing.
I have questions about Ouijaboards.
We have sold a Ouija boardBecause one of our team members
definitely had an experiencewith a Ouija board.
According to this person and Itotally believe them I question

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the realness of any Ouija boardthat has anything connected to
it.
Just because, to me, like,unless the Ouija board is of
natural materials and it hasbeen around something that can
give it that energy, I don'tthink ouija boards themselves
are more likely to have anenergy or anything going on so

(43:55):
are you saying that you bringthe energy to the board?
no, no, I'm saying is like, like, I believe like, uh, natural,
natural material objects, whenthey're in an area that has an
energy, they can absorb part ofthat energy and that's why items
become haunted, right?
That's kind of how I, how Iview that and certain members of
our team tend to view it, um,and that's kind of how we look

(44:17):
for these items.
So I only think the ouija boardcan be haunted if it has these
natural materials, which meanslike real wood, not particle
board right, like hasbro boardisn't gonna work, a hasbro ouija
board.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I'm gonna like I don't think that's gonna do
anything right but if you havesomebody, go out and make a
ouija board out of an oak treeright.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Right, if it's some natural material, if it's stone,
if it's carved, if it's wood,if anything like that, I I
believe it can, but I don'tbelieve that because it's a
ouija board, it's more likely tohold an energy.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
I got it all right, I think it's the fact that it's
what's the material made out ofso like this is one.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
It's a hotly debated uh thing in our shop sometimes
it's actually really cool.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
I I like that you're um explaining that, because that
that makes a lot of sense inways.
My next question is whathaunted item have you had that
should not have been haunted?
There should have been no waywhatsoever.
Was it a barrette or somebody'sretainer?

Speaker 4 (45:28):
I'm trying to think of any item that just seems so
weird.
You know what?
I do have one, and this is justweird to me Dice.
We had a set of haunted dicethat came through Now.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
I think that'd be fun .

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Yeah.
When you're you, you knowyahtzee I think, though, that
they were the smallest.
They were weird to me becausethey were the smallest haunted
item that I have seen.
Something do an experience with, like, because of how small the
dice are.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Um, yeah, do you know where they were from?

Speaker 4 (46:08):
I, I do not we.
We got them through theparanormal asset network.
Sometimes these things jumphands multiple times, um, and it
was just different peoplepassing it along to have other
people research it so were theylike wood or something?
I uh, no, they were ivory.
Oh okay, yeah, well, and whenyou said they, were ivory.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Oh okay, yeah Well and when you said they were old
dice.
Right when you say dice.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
They were definitely old dice.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
When you say dice and when I'm thinking old, that
makes me think like you know,old Western gambling, and maybe
someone you know kept shootingtheir opponents and you know,
somehow it stuck to the dice.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Yeah, that's possible or or like uh, maybe they,
maybe they spent somewhere thathad a lot of energy going on for
a long amount of time yeah yeah, um but I think they could have
absorbed enough energy to toshow some effects right um, but
yeah, those were the ones thatjust seemed to me they shouldn't
have been haunted because ofhow small they were what is the

(47:12):
largest item that you've had?
um, the largest item we've hadin quite a while is a baby
coffin.
That's like a victorian era toepincher, it's a, it's all wood,
wow, okay, yeah, so that one,that one, is a little weird to
me that's about the size of mydining room table.

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I'm assuming, um, and you know,yeah, lengthwise I'm guessing
right now it's probably aboutthree and a half feet in length
and it's a toe pincher so itcomes in, you know, tighter at
the bottom, has that traditionalshape.
It's definitely changed hands ahandful of times.
We've been we're still holdingon to it and doing our
investigations with it, but ithas.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
It has shown some obvious effects wow, so you do
it, you have it on you oh yeah,we we're holding on to it for
now oh, wow, okay, uh, I'm gonnaask it has it been used?
I?

Speaker 4 (48:13):
we don't know it's um , it's got dirt oh, oh, my okay
yeah, I've been.
I've been running some tests onthe stuff I found on it and
it's, it's definitely um, it'sbeen in the ground at some point
it's been around at some point,I mean for some reason it has a

(48:34):
lot of charcoal.
Huh, like ground into the wood,like there's still dirt and
charcoal in the wood.
So that tells me it's beenburied at some point, but I have
no other evidence that it'sbeen, you know, actively used.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
But I mean, the thing is, if it were buried, you
wouldn't bury it empty, so itprobably was Right.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
I just haven't found.
We haven't found any traces ofany bodily fluids, no staining
that would.
That would make me think thatyou know there was any of that.
But you know, depending on howalso someone passed what they
did with the body, that mightnot necessarily show like how
they wrapped it, but I have noevidence of that and not a super
clear timeline of like what itshistory has been.

(49:18):
So we're still trying to traceas much of that down before we
can do anything with it.
So when you start investigation.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
You say toe pitchers, so you're talking.
Probably it's a coffin.
So what 1800s?
Maybe early 1900s?

Speaker 4 (49:36):
early 1900s, late 1800s, between 1890 and 1910, is
kind of what we're looking atfor the time range.
Uh, we do think there was acouple pieces that someone added
on at another point in time.
But maybe that's like someonebought it not realizing it was
haunted and they were going touse it for some decor item, so
they did something to it.
Um, they just added some liketrim to it.

(49:58):
That's like literally all it isand it's just like the wood
doesn't match.
The wood is totally wrong Iguess.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
So what occurrences have happened with in around
that coffin?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
um.
So are you familiar with an rempod yeah, yeah yeah, so, uh,
we're pretty big fans of the REMpod and pretty much no matter
where we put this thing, itwants to set off the alarm on
the REM pod.
We put it in different rooms,different buildings, it will set

(50:29):
it off eventually and it's oneof the only items that we've had
that much uh, uh, that muchexperience with.
So we, like I said, we've beenholding onto it for a while just
to keep on and doing ourinvestigation for it, but we've
had it for a while.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
So you're telling me that there would be a buyer for
it?

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Um, we haven't.
We haven't sought out a buyerfor it yet.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Okay, all right, okay , um, we haven't, we haven't
sought out a buyer for it yet.
Okay, all right, okay.
So we, you know, you alwayshear about this.
You know like, oh, you know,hear piano music in the in the
ballroom, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So have you ever had a hauntedpiano?

Speaker 4 (51:15):
no, no, I've never had something as large as a
haunted piano, though that.
No, I've never had something aslarge as a haunted piano,
though that would be awesome.
I've always wondered with thoseif you could possibly like play
the piano with the ghost, Likethat's.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
Like a duet.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
To me it's the most traditional self-playing piano
yeah.
All right, yeah, very true.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
Have you ever had an item that someone returned
because it was too too haunted,like they just couldn't deal
with it, and they're like youhave to take this back?

Speaker 4 (51:46):
yes, we we've had, um .
We've had a couple itemsreturned um.
We don't do refunds on stuff,um, but we've had a couple
people return um.
We've got a few photos returnedto us after we sent them out.
And then we've also had, on twoseparate occasions, after
someone has bought something,they have emailed us like the

(52:07):
next day and said you know what,keep the money and hold onto it
.
I don't feel comfortablebringing it into the house Like
they slept on it and went.
That's a bad idea.
Wow Gosh.
Wow.
Yeah, but most of the items thatanyone has ever sent back to us
has been like those smalllittle mystery bags that we do
send out that has photos andstuff.
Those are actually the mostcommon ones that people have

(52:30):
experiences with that they sendback.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
And why do you think that is?
It's just too much for them,and why?

Speaker 4 (52:36):
do you think that is?
It's just too much for them.
I think that, honestly, thepeople who end up getting the
small mystery bags.
They're the most skepticalpeople that are going to be our
customers.
Right, because if you're a truebeliever, if you are a believer
, you already believe.
All of this is happening, right, right, this is happening,

(53:00):
right, right.
Um, if you, if you get one ofthose and you're, you think
you're, you're going to uh, havean experience.
You're probably going to getone of the bigger things.
That's just.
That tends to be why, the whywhen we do list stuff on our
store, it doesn't last longbecause the real believers go
for that.
Right, because they alreadybelieve it.
They're going to spend moremoney on it, they're going to
get the, the uh, the box orwhatever we we end up selling,
but the skeptics are going tolook at it and be like I'll

(53:20):
spend a couple bucks or whateverand get the?
Uh, the mystery bag, and thenthey'll have an experience and
it will freak them out enoughthat they send it back or
they're uh, you know they're,they're, they're a significant
other or whatever might be askeptic.
And once it gets in the houseand they have experience, the
wife will be like no, no, no,get that out of my house.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
See, that's what would have happened if you had
sent me something.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Paul BW.
If you send me your address, Igot you.
Nope, nope, nope, Come on letme spur an argument with your
real partner and not your onlinepartner.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Oh God, oh geez, why don't you give it to John first?

Speaker 4 (54:04):
and then when he's done with it.
I think John's already got one.
John, do you have?

Speaker 3 (54:08):
something I didn't get it yet no, I was yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Oh darn, we thought I'd already arrived.
We will check up on thatshipping then.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
We thought that got to you already, but yeah, so, um
, so they send it back do yourecycle them?

Speaker 4 (54:28):
do you recycle them?
We will.
If something gets sent back tous, we hold on to it for a
period of time.
Okay, because we do feel likeif someone sent it back to us,
maybe they sent it back to usbecause it was a negative
experience, not just anexperience, and we want to make
sure that we're again, we'retrying to be, as responsible
about it.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Well then, we do relist it I, I think a negative
experience could happen at anypoint because, like, just hear
me out, people are people, right?
Nemo ghost, at one point maybewere people, hopefully, and you
know, demons aren't attached toeverything, you know what I'm
saying.
So, but people are people.
So sometimes people do not mesh, right, they just don't.

(55:11):
So what if somebody got amystery bag and they got there
and this energy, you know, justdoes not mesh with either the
you know the you know big daddyor big mama, however, that works
there and that's why theirexperience turns out to be not

(55:31):
so good.
You know what I mean?
There has to be chemistry there, right?

Speaker 4 (55:35):
definitely there can to be chemistry there.
Right, definitely there can besome chemistry there.
Um, so far we haven't reallyhad too much problems with that.
Um, but you know what, if theydo have a negative experience,
they can always find the personthey really don't like and just
slip it underneath their carseat, you know, and maybe, maybe
, let them have a good time andsee if they have better

(55:56):
chemistry.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
You can always test that with someone that's
actually a good idea yeah yeah,you see, now you got me and dw
thinking about we might just gethaunted items to give to people
like I know.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
He's got a few in his office and I definitely have a
few of my job the thing is theywork close enough to you but the
problem is they work closeenough to me that if they,
depending on what the experienceis, I might also experience
that.
So I don't know if that's goingto work.
That's true, yeah, and I don'twant to follow that person to
their car.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
So I, you know, I sit there and I'm like, what you
know, maybe it'd be great, youknow, to get a future.
And you're like, oh, I wasthinking of you.
Here you go, here's this.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Happy birthday.
Here's a random locket.
Just hold on to that for awhile.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Here's a random locket off of a dead girl.
Here you go, take this yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Never mind the soil that's on it.
That's from something else.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Somebody else's dirt.
Oh, that's good stuff, allright.
So we talked about some of yourcool stuff that you've had and
everything.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
So where is the weirdest place you've ever
shipped, weirdest place I'veever shipped?
We've only shipped a couplethings outside of the States.
Okay, we recently sent someitems up to Alberta, canada.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
So I think that was probably our weirdest place
lately.
Mostly everything is in theStates when we do ship, yeah.
So, yeah, I think Alberta,canada, is probably the weirdest
for me, but that's mostlybecause I don't think I've been
to Alberta.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Yeah, it's probably not weird at all.
It's a rock.
I mean, you know it's amountain, state or territory or
whatever it is.
Now, what is it called?
What are?

Speaker 4 (57:48):
they called.
It sounds really cold.
Providence.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
There we go, yeah, so all I know is Bret Hart's from
there, so it's all cool, butwell, okay, so of the lower 48
states, oh hell, we'll throw inAlaska and Hawaii.
Have you shipped to all statesor have there been some that you

(58:14):
just not a customer at all,like Wyoming, most likely.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
I definitely assume we have not shipped to all 50
states.
Okay, but off the top of myhead I have no clue.
I tend to not personally dealwith the shipping on our team.
All right, I tend to do a lotmore of the investigations we
have.
You know, people do differentjobs on our team and I just
don't think I know.
Off the top of my head well,okay.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
So let me ask you this too.
I mean, since you are abusiness and and technically
you're in sales, right, I mean,you are in a way, you have a
warehouse, you you sell throughebay and things like that, do
you have salespeople?

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Oh no, no, we let people find us.
We don't do salespeople, wedon't push our stuff, we don't
do commissions Honestly, prettymuch everything from the
business kind of just keeps ourinvestigations alive.
But now we're not going towaste time on salespeople.
Those seem smarmy.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
Yeah, yeah that's true I mean it's hard to you
know.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
No offense, I mean I mean no offense to all the
salespeople out there, but I'venever been sold to and thought I
wasn't being smarmy too rightwell, and it's hard to to uh
convince someone who doesn'talready isn't already interested
in haunted items to buy ahaunted item.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Do you like haunted houses?
No, not at all.
Oh well, okay.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
I just assumed.
Full functioning.
You have sales people there,you have a marketing department,
you have all that really coolstuff.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Just you know, oh no our, our marketing department is
us messing around on socialmedia.
We're all pretty new to thesocial media, so we're trying to
figure that out yeah, I mean, Ithink everybody's still new.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Unless you're like a 12 year old now, then you're on
top of the world when it comesto the social media crap.
Wow, okay, well, I was justOkay, tell me.
I was sitting there thinkinglike we've gone over about as

(01:00:36):
much as we can go.
But no, I want to know some ofthis really cool stuff.
Where is a like?
Have you ever collected ahaunted item out of a fairly
famous investigation spot?

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
yes, I can't be super specific on the exact location,
but I did just return fromtombstone ah okay, all right,
yep, yep yeah, a lot of theinvestigations we do are like
private um, and we went out totombstone specifically for a
private investigation and we didbring back a couple artifacts,

(01:01:19):
but can't be specific on whichlocation, but it is a known
location in Tombstone.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
All right.
So I guess you can't saywhether or not it had anything
to do with the gunfight at theOK Corral.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
There is a lot more activity in Tombstone besides
the OK Corral, true.
Yeah, there's a lot more.
There is a lot more activity intombstone besides the okay
corral, true yeah okay, there'sa lot more.
There's a lot more I I'veactually, as I've been to
tombstone a handful of times,I've never personally had an
experience that I could relateto the the okay corral um I
can't relate any of myexperiences back to that.
Um, I mean, I love the story,big fan of doc holiday

(01:01:57):
personally, that's my life if Ican like it's val kilmer's uh
doc holiday oh my gosh not dyingof tuberculosis, like that's my
dream right there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, I'venever had experience with the
okay corral, so, unfortunately,no, no, nothing from that okay

(01:02:17):
so have you been to the stanleyhotel?

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I have not okay, have you been to waverly hills
sanatorium?

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
no, that would be.
That would be a lucky one to toscore into, I think I think
everything in there like I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I don't know if they have anything left of any of the
beds.
I'm assuming it's been pickedpretty freaking clean by now
Probably.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
I do know a lot of the really well-known locations
are hard to be able to get theprivate investigations into.
So when we do luck out withthose, we try to keep pretty
private about them makes senseoh it says you're in florida.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Uh, I have to ask you this any items you have, have
they ever been collect?
You know, any items you'vecollected ever been at?

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
you've collected ever been at saint augustine
lighthouse?
Um, no, but it's.
It's actually.
Saint augustine is at the verytop of my list for my next
investigations.
Oh nice, so saint augustine isis up there.
Um, it's funny that youmentioned saint augustine.
We've been talking about itlately very cool and maybe
you'll pick up some really coolstuff there, maybe, maybe I'd
love to, but I do feel like it'ssometimes you run into a
problem with the places that arelike almost um the local.

(01:03:45):
I mean, I'm in orlando, right,tourism is everything about here
and everything.
Everything in central floridaroughly, has become some
touristy thing.
Um, including saint augustine,and its touristy thing is we're
the really old place, right?
Uh, so unfortunately theycommercialize so much of that
that it's hard to find authentic, real items that have actually
been around a minute oh yeah, Ican see that so that's kind of

(01:04:07):
one of the reasons I haven'treally done saint augustine yet,
even with it being so close.
It's just I know how touristy itis here, so I I tend to try to
get away from Orlando a littlebit because of how I don't know,
you know how, how tourism hasdone that to all of Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
Right, right yeah.
But I do want to go to StAugustine.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
I just think I'm going to do it more as an
investigation of places and notnecessarily trying to find any
items an investigation of placesand not necessarily trying to
find any items.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
So you're, I, you know we took a little detour
there went to say augustinefigured I'd you know, ask about
something.
So I can bring it to this.
And here it is the yourwarehouse, the haunted items in
your warehouse, how many do youusually have at one point, like
at one time?

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
That is a varying number.
We've gotten down to prettysmall numbers before, when we
don't have things coming in thedoor, but we've had a decently
full warehouse before.
We're not a huge warehouse,we're only I don't know.
We're probably about 12, 1300square feet but that's including

(01:05:22):
, like you know, our break roomand all of that, um, and we do
have separate rooms fordifferent things so we can try
to keep things pretty isolatedfrom each other.
So while we're testing things,they're not right on top of each
other, okay, but yeah, no,we've got.
We got a pretty varying number,I'd say right now we've got a
couple dozen okay, yeah, so umactual items not like little

(01:05:43):
things like papers and stuff.
Those are kind of notnecessarily that, but but things
that are boxes and larger areprobably a couple dozen at the
moment wow all right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
So how's the uh hauntings in your warehouse?

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
I mean, is your warehouse haunted?
No, no.
We actually did aninvestigation of the warehouse
before we moved in to make sureit wasn't haunted.
Okay, yeah, we actually, afterwe rented the location, we sat
on it for a couple months anddid pretty constant surveillance
of it because we didn't wantthat to interact with anything
that we were bringing in.
So definitely not haunted mightbe haunted by the time we move
out of there but that's what I'msaying.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
That's where I was going with this like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
So all the stuff in there, the energy's got to be
off the charts, right sometimes,sometimes, um, we definitely do
notice that, like things getmore active in the night, um, um
, things tend to not like uh, weassume they don't like UV rays,
um, but we try to keep itpretty discreet so we don't try

(01:06:45):
to have too many people knowingwhere it exactly is, because we
don't want anyone interruptingwith our uh investigations of
items or trying to interferewith them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
So the ghosts are vampires.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
They don't like.
No, no, no, it's crazy.
No, uh, we, we tend to thinkthat this is just kind of like
where we start to theorize abouthow, how the uh, how the
energies or spirits or whateveryou'd like to call them, how how
they start to interact.
We tend to at least I tend togo along the lines of UV rays
themselves interfere with EMFbubbles and they mess with the

(01:07:30):
ionization clouds of the EMFfields.
I'm honestly not the smartestwhen it comes to science, but
from what I understand of it,that's what the uv rays are
doing and that's why you tend tosee haunted locations be more
active at night than during theday that's probably the most
scientific thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
When it comes to that , like any other time, like oh,
it's's haunted.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I'm not like a science person.
I have very much forced myselfto learn some of the science for
my investigations and from myunderstanding, that's probably
the most likely explanation ofwhy things are more active at
night.
We also noticed that spirits orenergies also are less active
during full moons, which is theopposite of what you would

(01:08:17):
normally expect.
But what we have noticed in ourshop it's less active during
full moons and we think that'sbecause there's still more uv
rays being reflected off of themoon.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
But that's again just me theorizing at this point but
still, like I said, that'sprobably the most scientific
like explanation I've ever heardfor why it's, you know?
I mean, yeah, there's hauntingsduring the daytime.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Don't get me wrong, it happens and there must be
some very strong energies to beable to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
In my opinion and which I, I could see that, yeah,
but at night is usually when,when it's popping, so I mean in
that, wow, I never, that wasokay.
You said or say you're not ascientist, but you, you, you got
me that.
I was like, wow, okay, it, nice, it's actually scientific.

(01:09:12):
Ghosts don't haunt becausethey're like whatever.
Ghosts don't haunt becausethey're like whatever.
They just want to wait tillnight because they can actually
do stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Yeah, they're not being interfered with by uh uv
rays messing with their you know, their emf bubble, I don't know
.
But then again I might justhave come up with all that while
I was too stoned, you never.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
I mean, it sounds like something that would be.

Speaker 5 (01:09:40):
You used enough technical terms.
That it sounds right.
It sounds intelligent.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
He wasn't sitting there going like all right.
So the thing are.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Yeah, you didn't sound like John.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
That's not how I sound.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
No, it's not so all right.
So where can people find RealHaunted Items?

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Yeah, so you can find us on the social medias like
instagram, um, and ebay and etsy.
Just look up real haunted items, um.
And then, if you want to findme, I am quinn to the unknown,
with underscores between everyword on um instagram, and I just
tried tiktok, so yeah oh I,okay, I just found one of your

(01:10:38):
uh mystery bags.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
Okay, I, for some reason, I typed in real haunted
items before and came up there'sobviously.
So there's.
You type in real haunted items.
You get other people who haveuh, here's a voodoo cat spirit,
here's a haunted skeleton key,stuff like that.
Make sure people you're lookingfor the seller real haunted

(01:11:05):
items.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Yes, not just the tag .

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Not just real haunted items, and so we've got a
mystery bag here.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Okay, I know on some platforms we're also found as
real haunted items for sale.
I think that's what we're foundon as eBay.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Awesome.
Well, I mean, I know where tofind it now.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
So that's good.
Sorry, that's one of the twothings John does during the
episode, and I stole it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yeah, I don't know what to do now.

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
Alright, well, let's hear it.
Since I'm taking over, I'llnext up, Since we've gone over
where to find him?

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
they've gone over.

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
It's this or that.
Would you stop interrupting.
I'm taking over the show, sothat's.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
Gosh I was waiting for this or that, it's this or
that.
Would you stop interrupting?
I'm taking over the show, sothat's gosh.
I was waiting for this or thatto come up.
I was probably excited for it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
Yay, and you did the last one, so it's my turn.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I did not do the last one.

Speaker 5 (01:12:11):
Well, the last one.
The last one was the three ofus with.
We actually both did becauseyou asked yeah, I asked okay,
and then, but the time beforeyou did and I remember that
because when you do it, thefirst 20 questions are all about

(01:12:32):
food.
Food, yes, and it takes likefive minutes before you're done
with breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
I like food, hence your triglycerides.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
I can tell which one of you guys are the smoker.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
I don't smoke, but yeah, he eats them now.
I have to eat it now.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Alright, so we're going to do this or that.
I take it you're ready, becauseyou said you were looking
forward to this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
Oh yeah, this is the fun part, dw.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
I'm sorry for interrupting, but I have to ask
this.
I thought I was the this orthat this week, so I have like
two really good questions, socan, can I want to do.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
Do you want to do yours first, or do you want to?

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
I'll do, do, I'll do mine after okay, all right all
right.

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
So books or movies.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Books.
Books can be haunted.
Oh okay, Movies got too muchplastic and shit in them.
They can be haunted.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
Since you said books, fiction or nonfiction.
Ooh, fiction, fiction, allright, chocolate or vanilla.
If you could time travel, wouldyou rather go to 1825 or 2225?

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
2225.
Oh, I gotta see if we, if wesurvive.

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
I just I was just gonna know what happened at 1825
.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
I can look that up in a book.
I don't know about 2025.
That's true.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
I've just noticed that a lot of the guests we have
tend to go back because theywant to see the stories that
they've read about and stufflike that Hauntings and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
I've read about that.
I want stories.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
I don't know right, okay, got a barbecue.
Do you want a brat or a burger?

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
a burger all right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
Would you rather fight with a lightsaber or
really suck at latin?
All right, uh, mozart.

(01:15:11):
Or led zeppelin, oh zeppelin,nice, okay.
Would you rather ghost huntwith the ghostbusters?

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
or scooby-doo in the gang.
Oh, scooby-doo in the gang, Imean only partially, because
it's got shaggy and Scooby andthose are obviously like that's
my dream spirit duo right thereand I don't want to bust no
ghosts.
So Scooby-Doo Gang.
Okay alright.

Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
Alright, Unicorn with a Mustache or Monkey in a Top
Hat.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
That's funny, unicorn with a Must, a mustache,
because I can't imagine that oneexactly.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
Yeah, so I want to, I want to see it so that I can
imagine, it, I can imagine amonkey in a top hat that's like
that's that's easy yeah, allright, this will be the last of
mine before john his is johnolsen or saddam hussein I.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
I have no idea who John Olsen is and it's really
hard to taste it on Hussein.
So I'm going to say DW.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Every time.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
It's the second time that's happened.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Every time oh.

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
I love it All right Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
John, First I want to bring it back.
You said something aboutScooby-Doo and you said you want
to hang out with Shaggy andScooby.
A little fun fact aboutScooby-Doo.
And you said you want to hangout with Shaggy and Scooby.
A little fun fact aboutScooby-Doo.
Alright, His original name wasgoing to be Too Much, Too Much
Like the dog.
Too Much.
Yep, it would have been ThelmaDaphne, fred Shaggy, too Much.

(01:16:36):
That makes no sense.
Know weird, but but uh, thehannah barbara I can't remember
who it was that actually, uh,developed him, or you know,
scooby-doo, but took the namefrom the end of Frank Sinatra's

(01:17:00):
song when he was scatting andthey thought they were saying
Scooby-Dooby-Doo.
No, he said Dooby-Dooby-Doo.
Oh, okay, yeah, so that's howScooby-Doo became whatever A
little fun thing at the end ofyour All right, go ahead.

(01:17:21):
Do your who's john, okay yeahfunny, love it all right.
So, quinn, since you're downthere in florida, I have very
important questions to ask youabout people in florida, and
here's one of them right, carolBaskin or Joe Exotic oh god,

(01:17:47):
hell, that's a hard decision.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
I've actually been to Carol Baskin's place before the
before the documentary came out.
Um, she definitely killed herhusband, though, so I'm gonna go
with joe exotic, I, I meanbecause, here's the thing I met
carol baskin once she's.
She's genuinely nuts.
I mean, joe exotic is too, butlike at least he's kind of
entertaining yeah yeah, wow,okay, but he's not in florida.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
He's not from florida .

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
I don't think he's like somewhere else from florida
, but you can't listen but hedefinitely radiates florida man
energy like like he is floridaman's spirit animal, if I ever
saw one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
It's a shame he's not from here, like he should be
just outside of miami that'sfunny, okay, well, you already
answered the second question, soI can't ask that, and that's
fine.
I was gonna say like do youthink carol baskin killed her
husband?
oh oh yes, that's yeah yeah, allright, well, that that's fine.

(01:18:45):
Um, yeah, I guess well thatthat was my this or that,
because there was two of themand the first one, we, old joe,
won it and that's good.
I do not like the fact that DWwas picked over me again.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
I just didn't know the John Olsen guy yeah.
Hard to answer that one.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Funny.
Yeah, I love it, it's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
I never want to offend you.
I just don't care if I do.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
I fucking love this.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Everything he's doing , he's saying, is my shirt, go
to CrowdMaker and get it Allright.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Here's the thing that wasn't the plan.
I was going to say you need toend with.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
All right, here's the thing, cripers.
Here's the thing, cripershere's the thing this is.

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
I have not said cripers this whole time and all
right, quinn, real haunted itemsyou.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
This was fun.
I enjoyed this and I like tohear about this stuff.
It was good stuff yeah, yeah,fun time.
Thanks for having me, You'rewelcome Alright.
Well, DW, you got anything?

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
Here's the thing Time to be done.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Time for bed Cripers, alright, so.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Dude, the worst impression of me I've ever heard
.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I love this.
Alright Quinn, Again, thank youvery much for coming on all
right, thank you all right.
Well, you know what that means.
That means you guys have beenamazing, we have been scolarius
and we are out Later.