Ep. 71 John and DW's Excellent Adventure: Haunted Hotels

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Dare to check in to history's most haunted accommodations? Join us as we unlock the doors to spine-chilling hotels where some guests have never checked out. From Minnesota's local haunts to internationally infamous establishments, we're exploring the spectral residents that make these destinations bucket list stops for paranormal enthusiasts.

We begin close to home with Minnesota's hidden gems - the Victorian-style Afton House Inn where a woman in period dress still roams, the historic St. James Hotel in Red Wing with its ghostly figures, and Rush City's Grant House Hotel where unexplained footsteps and sudden temperature drops have convinced many it's among the state's most haunted locations.

Our journey then takes us to the Stanley Hotel in Colorado, whose corridors and rooms inspired Stephen King's "The Shining." This legendary establishment boasts everything from self-playing pianos to full-body apparitions, becoming a mecca for ghost hunters and curiosity seekers alike. In California, we explore the Queen Mary's maritime mysteries and the dark history of the Cecil Hotel (now Stay on Main), infamous for tragic deaths and its connection to notorious figures.

Crossing oceans, we visit France's Château de Brossac, haunted by a woman murdered by her husband, and Canada's Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel, where a ghostly bride still wanders in her wedding gown. Meanwhile, Chicago's Congress Plaza Hotel harbors the spirit of a woman who leapt from its 12th floor among other restless souls.

Whether you're planning your next supernatural adventure or simply curious about what lurks in these historic hallways, join us for a fascinating tour of accommodations where the paranormal is part of the amenities. Which haunted hotel would you dare to spend the night in? Let us know in the comments!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Thanks for watching what's going on.
This is sclarious.
I am john olsen and with me, asalways, is dw, the delightful
winkle bottom serene there we gono, there we, there we went.

(00:45):
What are you all right so?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
all right, this is funny, um, so I found this in
amongst all my other uh, um, uh,alcohol, alcoholic beverages.
This is a can of v8 and this isharder for me to get down than
uh other drinks why is that youdon't like?

(01:11):
It.
Oh gosh, I hate it.
Yeah, really, I mean nothing.
I, I eat my vegetables, don'tget me wrong but, the, the taste
of v8, just the regularoriginal.
I cannot stand.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's crazy.
You know, you throw a littlebeer in there, you'd be able to
knock it down.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh my gosh Real beer.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Like maybe like a Michelob Ultra Light or
something.
If you want to say that's realbeer, yeah, it's got again.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
we're talking about looking at the nutrition label,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Sodium.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Sodium 9 milligrams 920, which is 40%.
And the thing is that you wouldsay, oh, this is, you know,
it's vegetables.
They did add salt.
Salt is on the list ofingredients.
Why do they?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
have to do that A lot of salt actually For it to be
900.
For it to be 40%.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's a lot of salt.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm going to pop this .

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Okay, Now you don't have.
You're taking a break from THC,right?
What is?
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yep, sugar-free root beer, that's what I'm having.
Uh, I've been drinking big,mostly water and tea for geez
over a week.
Um, I am not.
Yes, you're right, I'm taking a.
I may hear me out.
I know I said you probablynever heard on here again, but
the grams of sugar in that isjust it was you want to talk

(02:43):
about the milligrams of sodiumthere?
For two servings in a thc sodawas legitimately 80 mill like,
is it 80?
Yeah, 80 milligrams of sugar,jeez.
So I don't know if anybody canhear this.

(03:04):
Can you hear?
I wonder if you can hear thepopping?
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of cool.
Um, it was sitting here infront of me and I heard it and
it's like, wow, that's weird,moved away from the mic and
whatever.
So, yeah, sugar-free root beer,that's what I'm having today.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Uh, so do you have a favorite root beer?
A, w and okay, yeah, yeah, yougot, I mean beer A&W, a&w.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Okay, I mean that's, you can't go wrong with A&W,
honestly, do you?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
ever have root beer at a brewery.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Because that's If you ever go to a brewery and they
have their own, not just A&W orwhatever, but if they make their
own root beer.
That root beer, that's goodstuff I might do that.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Uh, so I'm not drinking thc sugar-free root
beer, but you know, obviouslyI've already ingested my thc for
the day.
So well, not for the day, butfor this.
This show, um, so that's gonnabe kicking in here shortly and
we're gonna play a little game.
Guess, when it kicks in, that'swhen we're that's the game,

(04:13):
we're gonna be all right, allright.
Um, yeah, I don't know, man,it's, it's nice weather out.
Uh, we are, uh, for now.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
For now, it is and we were just talking about this
might've even been yesterday howthis is.
It's such a tricky time of yearbecause it could be fantastic,
like it was today.
It could be 30 degrees andsnowing, like they're predicting

(04:45):
for later this week.
Yep, you know that that's thecrazy part, and when we're
talking about like being outsideand things like that, we uh,
our daughter's birthday is inmay and we, ever since she was
born, we wished we could do alike picnic outside type of

(05:05):
thing.
But you just can never tellwith May, so we've never done
that, because you don't want tobook a reserve, a shelter,
whatever you want to call itpicnic area, and then find out
it's going to be 30 degrees andsnowing and can't use it.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
So yeah, is she early , mid or late?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
she is uh, she is early okay, all right so yeah,
so both my youngest and middle,which?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
is uh, the boy and the girl.
Uh, their birthdays are fivedays apart.
I mean three, it's a three year.
Yeah, three years and five daysbefore it is, yeah, it's uh may
23rd and may 28th.
Yeah, so nice, nice littlebirthday.
Uh, weather, yeah down there.

(05:59):
So, uh, today.
I don't know if anybody hearduh me talking about this last
week at the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
If you made it to the show last week and you heard
John and Early again yep yeahyou did no, I don't have a
problem with that.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
We've discussed this numerous times about how I do
not have a problem with endingEarly with anything else other
than just because, you haven'tdiscussed it with your?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
doctor doesn't how.
I do not have a problem withending early with anything else
other than just just because youhaven't discussed it with your
doctor doesn't mean it's even ifI had a doctor, I would not
tell him that I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I suppose you don't have a regular doctor, since
you've you know I don't, Ihaven't had the doctor, doctor
in 20 years.
I haven't had a doctor in 20years.
Easy yeah, 20 years.
Think back 20 years ago, 2005,.
Things were hopping.
John had a doctor.
Now not so much.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I'm sure that's are like oh yeah, 2005, I've got a
doctor most importantly, johnhas a doctor.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
They'll hear this and know when they think of 2005
from here on out they'll be likeoh, that's when John had a
doctor, that's badass, that'sgood stuff, that would be a
frame of reference for time ifyou had a doctor back then.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's how stuff that would be a frame of reference
for time, like if you had adoctor back then, you know
that's how long ago it was.
You had a doctor.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
There's pearl harbor, there's 9-11 and then there's
2005, when john had a doctor.
You'll always you'll rememberwhere you were when you found
out that john had a doctor 2005um so long ago, john had a
pediatrician that's that was hisdoctor, uh I mean some would

(07:50):
say mentally I could still havea pediatrician, so, whatever,
all right.
so if you made it to the end ofthe show last week yes, you
heard that I ended early, notbecause of any other problems
other than a quick trigger, umbut I said that we were going to

(08:13):
be talking about hotels thisweek.
So we are definitely going tobe talking about hotels in just
a few minutes.
I guess.
Guess who guest is?
No one, we don't need guests.
Me and DW, we're the show baby.
We do need guests, by the way,we do, okay, sometimes.
Yeah, we need guests.

(08:35):
I was trying to pump it upsaying we didn't, but yeah, most
likely we do and that's okay.
But we have fun with each other.
That's weird to say, but wehave fun, okay.
Anyway, all right.
So I said we were talking abouthotels.
We're going to be talking aboutthat in just a few minutes.
I do want to mention a couplethings before we get going.

(08:59):
One of them is if, by anychance, you want to have any
type of merch from me or dw, um,just go to crowdmadecom forward
, slash collections, forward,slash scolarius pod, or just go
to crowdmade and searchscolarius pod and you're gonna

(09:20):
find a whole lot of stuff thatyou can have for like roughly 30
or less.
Right, dw?
Is there anything really over30 bucks in there?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
not much.
I thought there was somethingfor like 29, but I don't think
so yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
So t-shirts we have.
We have the here's the thing dwserene t-shirt.
We have the sclarius 316t-shirt, which is perfect.
No, I guess not now.
It's not perfect, but as we'rerecording, this would have been
perfect yesterday.
Anyways, um, we also have, youknow, my personal t-shirt that

(09:56):
said you know, uh, I'm nottrying to offend you, but I
don't care if I did.
Uh, also, we have dog leashes,dog collars or cat leashes and
cat collars.
We have the pet dish, all youknow, working on a fish bowl.
I think it'd be awesome withthe big old ghost in it, don't
you do?
You love you big old ghost?

(10:17):
sclerus fishbowl okay yeah,nobody else thought so either.
All right, we have coasters.
Nope, no, we don't.
We have goasters.
That's right, because you knowwhy would we have coasters?
That's weird.
You can put your drink whetherit's a V8 or a sugar-free root

(10:39):
beer or whatever it is you'redrinking, right there on the
Scolarius goasters and you canfind those right there at
crowdmadecom forward, slashcollections, forward, slash
scolarius pod, and or just go tocrowdmade and search scolarius
pod and then you can find allthat good stuff.

(10:59):
And while you're on thecomputer, you know you might be
lonely.
You may be out there thinkingto yourself man, is there
somebody for me?
Is there somebody that's intothe paranormal and the comedy

(11:21):
like me?
And the comedy like me?
You know, and you're goingthrough all your web searches,
your Tinders and your Bumble andyour Plenty of Fish and most
like I don't know, maybeeHarmony, not 100% Christian
Mingle, which would be weirdbased listening to the show and

(11:43):
having that it's sad that youknow all these.
I know it from tv.
That's, that's why.
But say, you're going throughall those and you're like man, I
just wish, I wish I hadsomebody to talk to.
I wish I could talk aboutparanormal and comedy.
We can't get it there, but youcan go to facebook where you can

(12:03):
find dw.
Dw serene comedian on facebook.
You can find me at john holtzcomedian 2.0 on facebook.
You can find us both togetheron a couple?
yep, no, we're not a couple.
You find us at the sclariouspage also.
Also, we do have a tiktoksclarious 8 and an instagram
where guess what we are.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
We are.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, we're Scalarius .
Yeah, I can tell DW is justalready zoning off and then, if
you want to chit-chat, you canemail us at ScalariusPod at
gmailcom, or if you want to, youcan go through every single

(12:49):
episode that we have and you canfind that at
scolariaspodbuzzsproutcom.
Hey, dw, we got through allthat stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, finally.
Now let's get to the meat ofthe matter.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Let's get to the meat of it.
Let's get to the meat of thematter.
Let's get to the innards ofthis hot dog.
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Pretty much yeah, okay, sure.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Exactly, that's exactly what you were saying.
All right, yeah, you know we'regoing to talk about.
Hey, it's going to bespringtime and people you know
people are wanting to take trips, and when you take trips, you
need a place to stay.
I suppose you can sleep in yourcar, but you need places to
stay.

(13:34):
So you're going to go to well,probably a Vrbo or Airbnb too,
but most likely a hotel right,but most likely a hotel right.
So it's our job here atScalarius to provide you, our
listeners, with the hotels thatyou want to go to, because
you're all into the Honda stuff.

(13:54):
See what I did there.
All right, but that's our job.
So we're going to do that today, but we're going to start right
here in our home state ofMinnesota.
So, GW, we don't have to putmuch gas in the car.
We'll stop at Quick Trip.
Are you ready to hit our firsthotel?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Is this going to be like the other vacation we took
where?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
you didn't let me stop, absolutely.
You can have, listen, man, letme stop, and you can.
You can have you, listen, man,I, I am a rewards member, quick
trip, so I will allow you to getwhatever you want.
As long as I can swipe thatcard naked, I get to visit, okay
, whatever, all right.
So where do you want to go?
Do you want to go really closeto home or do you want to go

(14:42):
kind of out west right now?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
well, why don't we start close to home?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
okay, and well, you know, there's a few hotels
pretty close to us, right, um, acouple of them, uh, within 15
and 35 minutes and another oneat an hour.
So actually, everything thatwe're going to discuss in
Minnesota is basically an houraway from us, but we're going to

(15:12):
start at the closest one andthis is going to be kind of fun,
because I don't know if DW knewanything about this.
I know that my queen consort,who has lived in Minnesota for
her whole life, did not knowthis.
Okay, so this is going to befun for you, but it's kind of
notorious and there have been alot of uh experiences there,

(15:35):
apparently okay just don't talkabout them.
all right, we're talking astone's throw away from where
we're at right now, the AftonHouse Inn, afton, minnesota.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Now it's right downtown.
I mean, if anybody's throughAfton, it's legitimately just a
town right on the St Croix River.
It has a ski resort and thingslike that in it for the winter
time, but it's a really smalltown.
Uh, best ice cream place in allof minnesota's there, salmas.

(16:12):
Uh, shout out to them they arenot paying me for this, and if
they were, they'd be paying mein gallons of superman ice cream
.
That's what they'd be doing.
But anyway, all right.
But yeah, right there in in,right in the center essentially
of apt in minnesota, is the aptin house, and it was.

(16:33):
It's a victorian style house.
Um, it is rumored to be hauntedby former guests and staff okay
uh, like I said, people are kindof hush hush on it and so that
is basically all there was on it.
But, um, it's kind ofintriguing.

(16:55):
Uh, it's former guests andstaff, including a woman dressed
in victorian era clothing,which would make sense because
the house is older too.
But right, yeah, uh, so yeah,that those are the the hauntings
of the afton house in now dw,I'm sure you've been to afton.

(17:18):
Were you aware of this?
Uh, hotel?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
no, no even aware of the hotel I don't think so, and
I'm looking, so I'm looking atit.
Now I've noticed uh, they'vemade it.
It's victorian style and it'sum, didn't they have?
Where did they have on here?

(17:44):
Well, it says 1867.
And I'm guessing that's whenthey Built the house.
Built the house, but clearlythey've made some modifications.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, modifications.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
yes, Because it looks like every room has a flat
screen TV, a fireplace lookslike a gas fireplace and a
jacuzzi, oh wow.
And it looks like most roomshave, I think, at least two of

(18:28):
those.
Two out of three of them.
Some of them maybe don't have afireplace, but they'll have a
jacuzzi.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Okay, so if anybody wants to come to the Twin Cities
, you want to see a littleawesome place just east in Afton
uh, go to the afton uh at thehouse in.
So let me ask dw, is itaffordable, did they say?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
say that again.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Hang on is it affordable on the on the website
for somebody to get a room it'swell, it varies.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
So they got lots of options.
They had one.
Let me see where was I justpage passed.
Uh, one of them is no, where'dit go?
I mean one was like 135.
Okay that's not horrible notnot crazy amenities like jacuzzi

(19:25):
and things like that well, I uhthat one didn't have a jacuzzi
now if you want, like theexecutive suite, it does go.
So 135, but does go up to um.
Where was the fanciest one?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I want to say yeah, 285 okay, well, that's really
not that bad.
I mean honestly when you say Iwas thinking like five, six
hundred bucks.
Everyone say so.
285 is not that bad if you wantto live in the lap of luxury
for one evening in afton andthat's I mean that that's a big
one.
Uh, obviously yeah separatebathtub, jacuzzi, fireplace oh

(20:06):
wow, look at that that's areally nice one alright, so
we're gonna go right down, we'regonna leave DW, get in the car
we just got here.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
What are you talking about?
We went, not gonna.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I mean we, we went to salmas and we looked at the
hotel.
So now we have to leave andwe're gonna go down, but you had
your ice cream, okay, so we'regonna go down the road I did not
even turn on the jacuzzi, andyou told me to get out of here.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I do this.
This is why I don't want to.
You always talk about hey, weshould do this.
Do you like my impression, bythe way?
Hey, we should do this and gostay at this hotel.
The reason why I don't want todo that is even imaginary trips
with you, suck.
I'm at this place for fiveminutes and you said okay, time

(21:08):
to get in the car before we havefun.
Oh, my gosh, all right, we'releaving.
Where are we going now?
Apparently, I'm not driving.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
We're going to go down the road.
We're going south, man, we'regoing to follow St Croix and the
Mississippi down the roadwaysto red wing, minnesota, and when
we get there, also, we're goingto stop a quick trip because
I'm going to have to pee, andthen, you know, we'll get you a
little something there.
And then, uh, yeah, I'm gonnamake our way over to the, uh,

(21:40):
the st james hotel, if anybodywants to know, red wings, a
really nice town.
It's on the river, um stones,throw away from treasure island
casino.
So I mean, that's not a drawingpoint, I don't know what would
be, um, but red wings, just a,uh, a few miles away from, uh,

(22:01):
wabasha, not too far.
Uh, yeah, it's, when I say afew, I mean a few.
It's like 2030, I think, orsomething.
It's not horrible, but still um, but you know, red wings pretty
nice.
And so the st james hotelpeople talk a lot about this.
Actually, uh, katrina brown,her episode, if people want to

(22:24):
go back yeah, katrina Brown'sepisode.
She actually, um speak, spokeabout.
No, I am wrong, it is notKatrina.
I apologize.
Katrina's coming later.
When we talk about the nexthotel, we're gonna be, well, not
the next one, but one of themanyway.
No, I apologize to everyoneinvolved, which is me and DW.

(22:45):
And no, it was not Katrina, itwas Steve Sabo.
Steve Sabo talked about anexperience at the St James Hotel
in Red Wing, minnesota, andSteve Sabo's episodes way back
there.
I think it might have beenbefore Katrina's.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
You know what a message to steve and katrina and
everyone else keep in mindafter doing this many episodes.
They all bleed together and Iapplaud john for remembering who
it was.
I would not have been able tofigure out who said this because
I would have said I remembertalking about this hotel in Red

(23:29):
Wing.
No way I would have been ableto remember who it was.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
That's because I know offense, I just cannot remember
stuff.
All right, so this one, it'sgoing to be short.
I just want to let you know, dw, we're not going to be in Red
Wing very long.
All right, it's going to beshort.
I just want to let you know, dw, we're not going to be in Red
Wing very long.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
All right, I'm not going to unpack because we're
leaving pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I'm just saying, like just to preface this, like this
might be a shorter trip, okayit might be a little bit shorter
than the other one, all right,but anyway.
St James Hotel in Red Wing,minnesota.
This historic hotel is knownfor its paranormal activity,
including sightings of ghostlyfigures and strange noises,
particularly in the oldersection of the hotel.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, All right, we going, because that's all we had
time for.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I mean that's that's it, I mean we don't have to go
yet, but we can.
I just figured we would oh goodthank you.
I was hoping, geez, justfigured we would touch on the uh
all right so st james hotel.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Okay, um, again another.
Oh, let me see if we can figureout.
Do you have a year, 1875, whenit was built?
And this was the one, gosh,wasn't there a bellhop or

(25:04):
someone that died?
Yeah, something like that andthey supposedly they like are
still helping people or whatever.
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I thought it was something like that at first
there I thought you wereconflating that story with the
story of the uh, the bones guy,the, the guy the catacombs no,
no, that's it but yeah, you'reright, I think I think steve
mentioned something about thatlike it was like a bellhop and
something like that.

(25:36):
Yeah, I thought so, but I, youknow, could be wrong.
Uh, ghostly figures, could youknow, the bellhop could fit
right into that one, I suppose.
And then, you know, strangenoises could be anything,
especially a building that wasbuilt in 1875.
Um, now, if the strange noisewas, I'm gonna kill you.

(26:01):
It's a little different than,you know, a door creaking.
You know what I mean.
All right, but yeah, st jameshotel, uh, we're not, not there
very long, no, okay I'm sorry oh, all right jeez, do you want to

(26:22):
?
do you want to go now?

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I wanted, wanted to stop and eat, but we're leaving,
so let's get in the car.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
If you were to stop and eat in that area, where
would it be?

Speaker 2 (26:37):
You know, jeez, where was it Get a?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
local business to shout out.
Just I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm trying to.
I and I actually looked intothis.
I thought there was one placethat was uh, uh, kind of that
was nice nearby.
Dang it, uh, well, we'realready leaving.
I can't, you know whatever.
Dang it, uh, well, we'realready leaving.
I can't.
Yeah, whatever.
Oh, there's a godfather's pizzaokay, that's good, oh, here we

(27:13):
go.
Here we go um, um hannishbakery.
I might be saying that wrong,but there's a bakery and coffee
shop and they've got um, maybethat looks like they've got
cakes, um cupcakes, um what elsethey've got here?

(27:35):
Oh, bread, buns and rolls, oh,and donuts.
Here we go, we're good, so I'llget some donuts there.
All right, if we do, we havetime.
Can I stop and get donuts, orare we leaving already?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I mean it's up to you .
Do you want to leave?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
first sensible thing you've said all day um can I?
All right, I'm gonna get a ohm&m cake donut okay, I ordered a
donut and already you'relaughing.
Reese's piece is cake donut.
All right, so I'm getting two,um, and I don't know if they

(28:14):
have a three, four, three, fourdeal.
But, um, let me get one more.
I'll do a peanut butter cupcakedonut.
All right, mind, you'm notgoing to eat all of them now.
I'm going to eat one now andtwo are to save for later.
Put it in my pocket, I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
The upper breast of your pocket.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Next to my calculator , because I'm a machine.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh Crapers.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
See, I knew you were going to do it.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
So are you all gonna do it?
So are you?
Are you all donated up?
So we, okay, we can go.
Now, all right, let's go.
There's a method of my madnessand I know that might be
shocking, but we're gonna.
We're gonna leave.
We're gonna leave red wing,we're gonna go straight up 61
and we're gonna go straight up61 for a long, long mile.
We're gonna go straight up.
Well, there might be some,because there's two 61s.
We're gonna have to get off of161, then take 94, and then what

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we'll do is we'll take that tothe 61 exit oh, no, 94 to the 36
exit.
Then we get on 36 and then wewill take 36 down and then we'll
get on 61 North and we'll headup 61 North, uh, for
approximately uh 45 miles.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I hope you're using a GPS, cause I don't trust your
directions.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I'm okay, roughly 45 miles.
I hope you're using a GPSbecause I don't trust your
directions.
Are you Okay?
Roughly 45 miles to Rush City,minnesota.
Remember when I talked aboutKatrina Brown?
Now is where Katrina Brown willbe coming in, all right?
So if we're going to be talkingabout hotels, we're going to be
talking about Rush City.
Obviously, it's going to be ahaunted hotel.
So the Grant House Hotel,located at 80 West 4th Street in

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Rush City, minnesota, is ahistorical establishment with a
rich past dating back to 1880.
The current brick structure wasrebuilt in 1896 after a fire.
Over the years, guests havereported numerous paranormal
experiences at the hotel.
Visitors have described hearingunexplained footsteps, seeing

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apparitions and experiencingsudden temperature drops.
These accounts have led many toconsider the Grand House Hotel
as one of the most hauntedhotels in Minnesota.
In Minnesota, and for thoseinterested in exploring the
hotel, the Grant House Hotel'swebsite offers ghost stories

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shared by guests.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Okay, Well, here let's.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Let's tell You're going to be there.
Go to the website, see what theGrant House Hotel has in store
for us.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I'm trying to find where these stories are.
Here's all the.
They don't have jacuzzis, butthey're nice rooms.
Where are they're nice nicerooms?

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Um, where are?
Where are these stories?
What's going on, unless it's onhang on?
Is it on their facebook page?
I don't know.
I I'm sorry, I'm just havingtrouble finding what the heck?

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I don't know where.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Maybe they took them down.
Maybe they don't want thatknown, like you know, obviously.
Uh, it was written that way.
I don't, uh, I don't know,maybe they took him down maybe I
don't know.
I can't sorry, I can't find himif anybody wants to uh know a
personal story about the uh, thegrant house hotel in rush city,

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go back to the Katrina Brownepisode and listen up, okay.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
They also, by the way and I think the last hotel did
too, and I forgot to mention itthis one Grand Hotel, also for a
fee, accepts dogs.
So if you want to go with yourdog, there's an additional fee.
But I bring that up because, um, we have our, our dogs.

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We either have to take themwith or someone has to stay
behind because they're, you know, nuts.
So it might be be a perk forsome people if they're you know
they need a place that is petfriendly, but no smoking or

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vaping.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Damn it.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I don't smoke, so that's all right.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Okay, should we go?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Are you ready to go?

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I'm not, but I'm just preparing myself for the fact
that you usually say we have togo.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
There's nothing else in Rush City but this hotel.
So if you want, to eat therestaurant's downstairs.
We can eat there.
By the way, activity happens inthe restaurant too, that was
said.
So if you want to eat, we caneat there.
You can have a nice big dinner.
So your your belly's full andyou're not so grumpy for the
next leg of our tour here allright, all right, yeah, let's go

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all right all right, we'releaving okay, we're going okay,
we're gonna leave and we'regonna go west.
We're gonna go west not real farwest, but like west central,
and that's in sock center,minnesota, to the palmer house
hotel.
We just literally talked aboutthe palmer house hotel with, uh,
I think it was minnecosta,maybe, oh yeah, I'm pretty sure.

(34:16):
Um, maybe not see.
Now you got me questioned likedid we have a group after
minicosta, didn't we?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I don't know, I can't remember I can't see, told you
I'm sorry yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
So I think it was them, and if it was like hey,
shout out and uh yeah you guyscan, uh, yeah, talk anytime,
it's cool, all right.
The Palmer House Hotel in SaukCenter, minnesota known for its
ghostly residents, particularlythe spirit of a woman who

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appears in the hallways and theghost of a former hotel owner
who haunts the building.
Now, I could be wrong, but Ithink I remember, in the like,
in the mini ghost episode,palmer House Hotel, talking

(35:15):
about it and talking about, like, a ghostly woman.
Don't you remember that?
yeah, I think so yeah so I don'tyou remember that?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, so I don't know, seems tobe, seems to be legit, at least
for that part of it.
I mean, yeah, those are just.

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You know little bits about ourhaunted hotels here in Minnesota
.
You know little bits about ourhaunted hotels here in, uh, in
minnesota, we, you know we'regonna get the next hotel.
We're gonna be there for alittle while because you know,
yeah, so just want to let youknow dw so you can get, you know

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, you can get comfortable at thenext one, at least for a little
bit.
All right, so palmer house,hotel socks in minnesota, no,
frisco city residents, uh, achick who roams the hallways,
and then the hotel owner, uhyeah, afton house, palmer house,
jane, st james hotel, uh, whichis in Red Wing, and obviously

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the Grand House in Rush City.
All very haunted hotels, allstone's throws away from us.
So if you ever want to come andvisit us, we can check out any
of these hotels.
But it's time for me to get DWinto the car and we're gonna
take on you say that, like I'man infant, so all right, I'm in

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the car get in your car seatfacing the other way it's
backwards, that's good, okay,all right.
No, but sincerely we're gonna.
We're gonna take off down, well, southeast a little bit.
We're gonna go to a pro, Ithink, the third largest city in

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minnesota and that's rochester.
So rochester, minnesota, that'sright.
We're only here because it's aninternational airport.
We can get to our nextdestination from here.
All right, dw, I don't know ifyou've ever been here, but I
personally have, and my queenconsort has, and actually we did

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a little ghost boxing when wewere there and they were talking
directly to her.
So it was pretty awesome.
And that is the kaylor hotel.
Kaylor hotel it's now part ofthe mayo clinic campus, by the
way, because they're allconnected tunnels and things

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like that, and mayo clinic, themost famous hospital in the
world, essentially rochester,minnesota anyway.
So the killer hotel has a veryrich history and is known for
its paranormal activity.
The hotel, originally built in1921, is a well-known landmark
and over the years there havebeen numerous reports of ghost

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sightings and unexplainedoccurrences.
Are you ready for the sightings?
First one ghost of a woman inwhite.
Many guests and staff havereported seeing the apparition
of a woman in a long, flowingwhite dress, often seen walking
down the hallways or appearingin rooms, only to vanish when

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approached.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, elevator oddities.
There have been reports of thehotel's elevators acting
strangely.
Is that I don't know, I'm sorry, acting strangely, the door
opens and it goes whoopity,whoopity, whoopity, whoop.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Well, and the thing is every once in a while, like
where I work the elevator dooris open and the elevator goes
down a teeny bit more.
Would that be strange Like oh,our work is haunted because our
elevators are weird, but that'sodd.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
But here's the oddity and this is the uh.
This is why that what you justsaid makes sense.
There have been reports of thehotel's elevators acting
strangely again, I'm sorrymoving the floors without being
called or stopped unexpectedly,sometimes with no one inside.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
So what you said basically is like okay, if
that's the case, my place ishaunted too.
So I'm going to take this pieceof evidence and I'm sorry
People might think it's strange,and everything else.
We're going to take this pieceof evidence and I'm sorry People
might think it's strange, andeverything else.
We're going to take this pieceof evidence, we're going to
throw it out, we're going totoss it aside because I feel
that's an everyday occurrence.
It's no different than waterdripping from a faucet.

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You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, All right.
Unexplained noises.
Guests and staff have alsoreported hearing footsteps.
All right, Unexplained noises.
Guests and staff have alsoreported hearing footsteps,
whispers and other strangenoises, especially in the
quieter older sections of thehotel.

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Okay, this is kind of okay.
A ghostly presence in rooms.
Some hotel guests claim to feelcold spots, the sensation of
being watched, or a presence intheir rooms, though no one is
physically there.
Now they're saying thesehauntings aren't officially
confirmed, because you cannotofficially confirm a haunting,
not really.
The stories have become anintegral part of the hotel's
mystique.
Many people believe that thehotel's long history, including
its original use and theextensive renovations over the

(41:06):
years, may have attributed it tothe paranormal activity.
Is that the Kaler Hotel wasused for extra space because it

(41:28):
is attached to the hospital andthey had guests in there and I
guess patients and you knowpatients die and and things
happen like that.
So, um, but yeah, there was asection of the hotel that was, I

(41:53):
mean, yeah section of the hotelthat was used for basically a
hospital for a uh, a good amountof time.
Now, as for personalexperiences now, DW, have you
ever been to the Kaler?
Do you know?
Are you familiar of it?
I don't think so.
Okay, so it's really cool.

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It has kind of a, in a way kindof an old-timey feeling and
also a retro feeling.
Timey feeling and also a retrofeeling.
So like you go downstairs andit's like in you're in the 1970s
and you go upstairs and it'sjust beautiful victorian era,

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old-timey, like you know, notvictorian area, but you know
like the 1920s type decor andeverything was pretty, pretty
badass, Anyway.
So you go down and it leads tolike tunnels and these tunnels
lead to different parts of thehospital campus and things.

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But you know there's a Qdoba inthe basement which is pretty
badass I've eaten there a fewtimes and little shops and and
things like that, and I guessit's part of the Rochester quote
unquote subway, which isn'texactly a subway because it uh,

(43:15):
well, you know, it's not a train, it's just people walking
through it.
But anyway, um, yeah, so wewe've, we've been there, you
know, myself, the queen consorteven taking the kids around
there and things like that, andwe've had experiences hearing

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whispers directing with theghost box.
We went down into like thosetunnel area things and we were
kind of by where the morgue wasat one point Just heard some
stuff there and that could betalked about.
I mean, that was talked aboutin episode six, ryan Stock.

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He talked about an experiencethere too and I think I even
brought it up.
But yeah, pretty pretty coolarea.
Uh, they don't want ghosthunters up in there, they won't
allow people to investigate it.
Uh, yeah, so I don't know ifthat's a male thing, because I

(44:21):
think that you know the maleclinic either owns it or you
know they're a part of it.
You know in some way becausethey're connected.
But yeah, they don't reallytalk too much about the
hauntings there at least, right.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
So Some places try and deny it.
You know some well not.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Maybe not deny is the right word, but don't
acknowledge it like don't umadvertise it yeah which is weird
because I feel it would bring asolid growth and in visits and
stuff I do.
I think people go, they want togo and some some people may

(45:16):
want to go to a haunted hoteltell so all these places that
are um advertising it.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
They're smart about it, kaylor I, I don't know,
maybe it doesn't need it, if youknow what I mean yeah I don't
know well, and the other thingis, I don't know, kaylorer, just
looking at their website, is, Idon't know, more modern, more

(45:58):
fancier, if that's the rightword for it and maybe they just
you know people who are comingthrough on their honeymoon or
whatever, I don't know honeymoonin rochester, but I don't know.
But maybe for whatever reason,like they don't want the people
that are staying there, theydon't want to scare them away

(46:18):
with ghost stories or something.
I don't know.
I'm just just coming up withsome idea, I don't know well, I
mean, it's a pretty good idea.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
I don't understand any of it.
Even if they are trying to saveface for those who have more
money, um, essentially that'sthat's what it is.
I don't know.
I think that's a silly thing todo, but people have the
experience.
Man, once you've been to ahaunted hotel, you're like I
don't want to stay at one thatisn't.

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I had an app on my phone at onetime when I was doing a lot
more road gigs.
He had the bed bug registry,which you never want to be at a
hotel that has that and that'sin it, I guess.

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And then, um, yeah, there's anapp on my phone that I could
check and see if the hotel washaunted.
Not, you didn't like push itand you know, uh, and it's like
you know, scans it or somethingit's like not haunting, it
wasn't anything like that.
It was like, um, you, um, youjust type in what the address is

(47:38):
and then it brings up anyreports of hauntings or whatever
else.
But I did use it a lot and Ireally enjoyed getting into a
hotel that had activity, so yeah, so I hope that this was long

(47:59):
enough for you, dw.
I mean, we could.
There's things we could do inRochester, if you want to.
There's a cannabis club there.
I.
I like, um, we could go bythere sorry, no, yeah that's
yeah, okay, uh, all right,that's not for you.
That's cool.
Uh, well, the apache mall isthere.

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We can go there mall walk ifyou wanted to.
I don't know, there's a cornwater tower.
I mean that's cool to see for asecond.
Yeah, there's really nothingelse to do.
Dw, I just want to go to WhoHot.
I'm always up for WhoHot.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
For what?

Speaker 1 (48:42):
WhoHot, who's.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
WhoHot?
No, no, you don't really.
You know who hot mongoliangrill, who hot?
Oh well, I, I know that's.
I.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I've gone to different mongolian grills, but
okay, going grill, okay, yes nowI'm on board all right, okay,
we going to hang out there for alittle bit and then we're going
to go to RochesterInternational Airport and we're
going to take a flight.
You want to guess where we'regoing to fly?
To DW, pittsburgh.

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No, much shorter flight.
We are going to go to myfavorite city in the whole wide
world and we are not going to behere very long.
So I'm going to be one that'svery sad in this one.
This leg of the trip is goingto be me because I guarantee dw,
I'll tell you what.
We're going to be here for avery short period of time, but I

(49:44):
will treat you, my friend, tosome deep dish pizza.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Are we going to Chicago then?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, we're going to Chicago, All right.
Chicago has several reportedhaunted locations, Among them
the Congress Plaza Hotel.
It opened in 1893 and is saidto be haunted by a variety of
spirits, including the ghost ofa woman who reportedly jumped to

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her death from the hotel's 12thfloor, as well as the spirit of
a former hotel guest who diedunder mysterious circumstances.
A former hotel guest who diedunder mysterious circumstances.
Visitors and staff havereported eerie noises, cold
spots, flickering lights andeven sightings of figures in the

(50:39):
hallways or rooms.
Okay, the Congress Plaza Hotelin Chicago, I okay, the congress
plaza hotel in chicago, I okay.
So I don't know.
The thing that got me was the,the spirit of a hotel guest who
died under mysteriouscircumstances.
Like, okay, you're in a hotel,you either died in your sleep

(51:02):
because you, you know drugs, youwere overdosed because, well,
you know drugs, there is apossibility that you were
murdered, maybe just a heartattack in your sleep.
There's only, like, really,four ways you're going to die in

(51:23):
a hotel.
So what mysteriouscircumstances could that have
been?
I suppose, okay, uh, eerienoises, it's all that.
1893 is when it was built.
Okay, I think.
Not even 100, sure, but I thinkthat was before the first fire.

(51:43):
Okay, I don't know, anyway, Icould be wrong.
Those in chicago, let me know,was it before the fire or after
it?
All right, anyway.
Uh, cold spots, which is normalfor hauntings, flickering
lights and even sightingsfigures in the hallways of rooms
.
I feel, based on this, I wouldwant to go to chicago for

(52:07):
numerous reasons, but one ofthem being to the go to the the
congress plaza hotel, okay, yeah, how about you?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
no, you just want to stay home I'm not driving, so I
guess we're going yeah all right, another.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Well, we, we took a flight.
Remember we actually flew toChicago.
It was a short flight.
Anyways, all right.
Another infamous hotel inChicago with a haunted
reputation is the Drake Hotel.
Many have claimed to haveparanormal activities,
particularly in the hotel'solder rooms.

(52:43):
I'm sorry, I don't know a wholelot about the drake hotel, just
know that it's, you know,supposedly haunted.
That is cool.
Uh, it's claimed to fame.
For me is um being referencedin the first mission impossible
movie.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Oh yes, drake Hotel Chicago, yep yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
So if you're haunted, awesome.
If you're not, at least youhave Mission Impossible.
Right, yeah, right, yeah, okay,all right.
So let me ask you a question,dw, do you do?
You do you want to go to francereal quick and then swing back

(53:32):
around and hit canada, or whatdo you want to do?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
we're swinging back to Canada.
How do you swing back to Canada?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
What do you mean In?
An airplane, it's the same wayyou get over there.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
All right, all right, all right, let's go to, yeah,
let's go to France.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Okay, this is going to be fun because you know
French.
All right, let's try this out.
Chateau de Brassac, chateau deBrassac, brassac Queens see, if

(54:11):
it was Spanish, should be keensay so.
I'm not, but anyway, franceknow for its closely appearances
, including the spirit ofcharlotte de brossac, a woman
murdered by her husband.
Okay, see, I think it's a bedand breakfast.
Uh, I'm not 100 sure, uh, whatit is in whatever, but I think

(54:38):
it's a bed and breakfast becauseit was a home and they just,
you know what I mean.
All right, and I don't know ifbed and breakfasts are big there
in, uh, in france or or not,but there's really not much
there and that's, that's what.
So the ghost of charlotte, theghost of Charlotte de Brossac,

(55:03):
just roams around and scarespeople.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
So the ghost of.
So what did she?
What's her story?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
She's the woman murdered there by her husband.
Her husband killed her.
Okay, yeah, so I don't know.
This to france wasn't as fun asthe well, we haven't eaten yet,
and so what?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
do you want, you want a baguette you want a baguette,
just french food I don't care,I mean what in france?
So we, we pastries, so we justneed to find someplace that has

(55:48):
a, a danish, a danish.
There we go.
Yeah, in france, a danish.
They call it a french, I don'tknow um, just just something
we'll.
We'll have something to eat andI don't know we should probably
like what do you?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
what do you think?
I mean, I don't know, well, Imaybe.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Well, maybe we should get some, uh, french roast
coffee.
We should probably have wine atsome point, not at the same
time as coffee, but I supposewe're leaving so soon we can't
have both.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
It's going to be kind of weird, me and you just at a
table drinking wine together.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Oh, I'm not sitting next to you.
No, of course not.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
There's a table right .

Speaker 2 (56:37):
You know, I'll say this bottle of wine, charge it
to that bald guy over in thecorner, perfect 2DW my hetero
life mate.
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
God, all right.
So we leave in France.
Now, after you got liquored upand stuffing baguettes down your
gullet.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Maybe Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good all right
, okay, so we're going to canadanow now we're going to canada
okay, yeah, there we go the funcountry we're gonna fly to
alberta.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
We're just in france.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
And now you're saying canada is fine even worse,
alberta.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Okay, all right, so we're going to alberta from
france, to bamf alberta, canada.
It's the fairmont bamf springshotel.
Ghost stories around thisluxury hotel in the Canadian
Rockies with sightings of abride who died in the hotel and

(57:46):
a bellboy who passed away in the1960s.
So it's the second bellboyright there.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah and the.
So what happened there?
The bride, but not the groom,what?

Speaker 1 (58:00):
can guess what happened there I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
So if it's the bride, is her ghost still in her
wedding gown?

Speaker 1 (58:13):
That's a good question.
I bet Usually with ghoststories.
That's the way it goes.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Like Beetlejuice when they were in uh in their yep,
when they went into theirwedding best come on by which,
by the way, good movie I andhonestly I haven't seen the new
one, but, um, we watched it, uh,this past halloween and I

(58:40):
forgot how uh funny it is.
And I mean, michael keaton, Ilove that guy, he was freaking
hilarious.
So anyway, that's michaelkeaton, michael keaton, he was,
he's.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
He's my favorite batman he is the probably I but
I guess he's most definitely thebest bruce wayne.
I'll give him that.
I think christian bale's thebest batman his was good but
here's the, here's the otherthing.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
I I feel like a lot, of, a lot of people who have a
favorite superhero and have afavorite like portrayal of that.
They pick the one that was thebiggest when they were a kid,
yeah, so there, there might bepeople who are a little bit

(59:41):
older and their favorite issuperman and and they think of
christopher reeves who doesn't?
right.
But I mean there have beensuperman since then and there
have been different ninjaturtles and different batmans
and stuff like that.
But for me I really got intointo Batman and superheroes
right around the time the TimBurton Batman came out and so

(01:00:04):
for me that was the Batman andeverything else has just been
Secondary.
I don't know, just because Ifeel like I'm hanging on to that
childhood image that was firstcreated when I was a kid of this
is Batman.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
No, I get it.
He'll always be Like I said,was it last week?
Yeah, last week she touched onGene Hackman.
And I was like he'll forever belike Lex.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Luthor'll forever be Lex Luthor.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Lex Luthor, greatest criminal mind of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Yeah, I mean, I understand we don't have time
for this, but like there's adifferent favorite Batman, but
who's the bestoker, you know?
Hard to say, because I feellike there's apples and oranges,

(01:01:10):
though I feel like mark hamillI do like hits yeah you know,
but the thing is at the sametime.
How do do you compare, in thesame regard, to Batman, the Adam
West?
Batman is so campy.
How do you compare that to theChristian Bale?
Christian Bale's was scarierand darker, but I'm laughing at

(01:01:34):
Adam West's.
So which one's quote-unquoteright?

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Well, the Joker was methodical, deadly, but then he
had like this odd crazy sense ofhumor which wasn't pulled off
in the Dark night.

(01:02:04):
But everything else was rightand he was zany kind of in the
89 batman yeah um I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I he Ledger's was pretty awesome, but and again,
oh my gosh, oh my gosh, theJoker from that movie.
Why am I blanking on his name?
Heath Ledger?

(01:02:38):
No, from the Tim Burton.
Oh, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Jack Nicholson, jack nicholson gosh whatever jack
nicholson pal that was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I mean because the thing here's the thing heath
ledgers was scary.
Heath ledgers took the scary,scary Batman and made him human.
But you look at JackNicholson's who did he have
before?
He had the TV show Cesar Romero, cesar Romero version, yeah, so

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he had to make it scary.
So he, I feel like, went in adirection no one had gone before
.
Yep, so, but I do.
I feel like I do like MarkHamill's, because I feel like
having read the comic book ofthe Killing Joke, that's exactly

(01:03:40):
how I feel like it sounded inmy head, almost.
So anyway, we've been talkingabout Batman.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
By the way great, one of the greatest graphic novels
of all time the Killing Joke.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
The Killing Joke yeah .

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Yeah, people need to go get it that and then pick up
the walking dead, because if you, if you read the graphic novel,
you'll be a lot happier thanwhat you would with the tv show.
Uh, all right, so anyway, we'rejust gonna dw.
Do you mind leaving canada?

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
all right, let we can go yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
So now we're gonna zigzag all across america, but
we're gonna do fast, okay, okay,all right, let we can go.
Yeah, okay, so now we're gonnazigzag all across america, but
we're gonna do fast, okay, okay,all right, first stop, we're
gonna actually, this isn't toobad we're gonna go straight down
the rockies, straight southfrom from alberta, and we're
gonna go to the stanley hotel inestes park, colorado, which is
famous for inspiring stephenking's the shining.

(01:04:41):
Okay, he stayed there.
Uh, he had experiences and hewas like oh, haunted hotel,
that's badass.
And he wrote the shining.
So, um, it's rumored to behaunted by the hotel's fond, uh,
founder and other spirits uh, alot of spirits.
This thing has beeninvestigated more times than huh

(01:05:04):
, I don't even know like I can't.
Even.
I was gonna say something butit was gonna be.
This isn't censored, but theywould have found a way, all
right, but anyway.
Um, yeah, this thing's beeninvestigated a lot and you know,
piano played by itself,footsteps, full body apparitions

(01:05:27):
, just everything all the time,and they have comedy shows there
, which is kind of cool.
They do have paranormalconventions and stuff there a
lot.
Paranormal conventions andstuff there a lot.
It's been.
This is the hotel the StanleyHotel itself was inspired.

(01:05:49):
I mean, this inspired StephenKing to write the Shining, right
, but this hotel also wasactually the Overlook Hotel in
the TV version of the shining.
So that was the hotel that theyused, the actual Stanley hotels

(01:06:13):
.
Also, in dumb and dumber, it wasa hotel that Lloyd and Harry
stayed in when they, uh, wroteall the ious that's right yep,
yep, so it was in that um, avery famously haunted hotel, but
also in a whole lot of movies,which makes it really cool.

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So, dw, we're leaving colorado,are you happy?
With that all right.
Okay, we're going to make twostops in california, then we're
going to go to louisiana.
All right, the queen mary inlong beach.
We've been here before, dw wewere here with uh closer to the
veil.
That was yeah that was it.
Yep, that was, yeah, that was areally, really good one.

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Um, if you want to hear all theexperiences on the Queen Mary,
go back.
Listen to our episode withCloser to the Veil Paranormal,
um, which is in the early ones.
Again, I think it's top 10 orsomething somewhere around there
.
Go back and listen to that.
Then we're going to go to theHotel del Coronado in Coronado,

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california.
It's a beachfront hotel andit's rumored to be haunted by
the spirit of Kate Morgan, aguest who died under mysterious
circumstances.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Mysterious circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Yeah, Okay, Okay, she was either.
You know, she was eithermurdered or she wasn't.
That's how it was.
I mean, that's yeah Anyway.
So I don't know, Do you want tostay at the Hotel Del Coronado
very long?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Well, we got to get going, don't we?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Okay?
All right, now we're going togo to the Cecilcil hotel.
The cecil hotel now is the stayon main, okay?
Uh, it's infamous for it's verydark history, including tragic
events.
This hotel has been the site ofnumerous ghost sightings and
mysterious deaths, numerous and,uh, night stalker richard

(01:08:17):
ramirez lived there.
Um, yeah, they ever said youknow that he was either
summoning demons or he had ademon in his room that made him
do everything he was doing,whatever, I don't know, silly
stuff like that.
It's not founded anyway.
But the Cesar Hotel is whereElisa Lam mysteriously

(01:08:43):
disappeared.
They found her in the watertank on the roof.
It was literally no way to getup there.
We discussed this a fewepisodes back too, with Tawny
Can't remember her last nameright now, but it's okay.
But you'll tawny somethingtawny, yeah, a few few episodes

(01:09:08):
back we talked about the ceasarhotel.
All right, so that wascalifornia.
All right, you ready to go to?
Like I don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
I wanted to stay on the queen mary, but you did.
I mean, I just like, I don'tknow, I like boats and I would
have really, I mean we couldn'tbe there very long.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
We we talked about it in previous episode.
We're just bringing it up now.
See what I'm saying.
All right, tony lewis, by theway, is her name okay you beat
me to it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
I was gonna look for it, so um but yeah, listen to
her episode.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Back sees the hotel.
All right.
Now we're going to go to neworleans, louisiana.
We just been in new orleans nottoo long ago, dw, we just been
down there don't, oh, oh, you'vegotta stop, that's just oh man,
wait, what hope we fixing to godown there again right now?

(01:10:08):
All right, bourbon hotel, thebourbon orleans hotel at least
you laugh at it this hotel,built on the site of a former
convent and ballroom, has areputation for being haunted by
former nuns and dancers nottogether okay, all right, not

(01:10:35):
none dancers.
They're not from nonsense oranything like that, right yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
so given a show of sister act every night.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Oh, could it be Please?
I hope they recast what we goover.
Jesus, all right, get somebodyelse, somebody in there with
talent.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Oh my gosh, oh geez.
For the record, by the way,John does not speak for the both
of us.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
She hasn't done a show in 30 years.
Dw, you ain't opening fornobody.
You'll be fine, you can justride along, baby.
We went to the Berman orleanshotel.
We were there dw, it's sisteract two every night, like you

(01:11:29):
said.
Uh, what do you think?
Should we?
Should we pack it up?
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
yeah, we can go, go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Okay, we can go.
Where do you want to go, buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
What time are we going home, jeez?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Okay, well, we should go home soon.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Yeah, we should.
We're in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
It's going to be okay .
What is that?
Three-hour flight yeah, weshould probably pack up and
leave, don't you think?
Yeah, we should TW.
Let me ask you a couplequestions before we get into our
fun way that we end our show,and these questions are this

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that's weird.
I even said that.
So what do you think?
Would you stay at any of thesehotels?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
You know, the one with all the jacuzzis seemed
nice, especially if, by the way,I'm getting my own room.
I am not sharing a room withyou because those rooms look
very uh, uh nice and romanticand I would not, uh, no, hearing
that I booked a room with you.
At what that?

(01:12:39):
That place would just be no,we're not doing that.
But also, I did like that donutin Red Wing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
That was delicious, so you just want to stay close
to home.
That's what you're saying.
You don't want to go to Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I don't mind going, but I just I like traveling, but
I always like to.
There's something nice aboutheading back, so it was a good
trip, it was fun, but you know,head back home and see the dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
So okay.
So I was going to say, of theeverything that we mentioned
today, which one would you stayat?
But you just kind of answeredthat probably.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, probably.
Which one was that with the?
That wasn't the Red Wing one,that was the Afton Inn.
Yes, oh, that was like, yeah,that was there, it is Yep and
fireplaces, that's right, but Imean these just, they just look

(01:13:45):
like really nice cozy rooms.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
So, yeah, okay, I All right, okay, well, I can't ask
myself, so I'll just answer okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Sorry, where would you want to stay, john, of all
the places?

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
I want to say to all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
I didn't know you could give a blanket answer like
that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
But okay, there we go honestly, my favorite like for
a while has been the stanleyhotel.
I need to get there, I want toget there uh, that's, that's
number one top of my list, butalso, at the same time, meaning
that it's close and not that youknow, expensive.

(01:14:37):
I don't know the afton, thesaint james and maybe, maybe the
kaler, essentially because thekaler I know there's activity
there, but you know, I don'tknow the saint james would be
cool too, yeah yeah, so I thinkI'd go to those.

(01:15:00):
But if you want to talk aboutlike all like broad out there, I
I would definitely want to go.
Uh, hit up that place in france.
I like it over in france, yeah,um, yeah.
And then the sisa hotel.
I know it's called the standmain now, but I think that would
be a fun one to stay in if youcan escape all the horror in

(01:15:25):
there.
Meaning, like you know, peopleare always like you can't just
stay there one night, you getsucked into a time vortex and
you're there for six days.
It's kind of, I don't know,it's weird.
Okay, yeah, we should staythere.
I don't know, but anyway, yeah,those are, those are hotels,

(01:15:45):
guys, those are hotels, and westayed at a lot of hotels.
Dw ate a lot of food, but yeah,those were hotels.
So I, I, I'm.
This is a call to action,essentially for our listeners.
A call to action essentiallyfor our listeners.
A call to action I want you tocomment.

(01:16:06):
All you have to do is like,please, just do.
It Just hit the bottom thingand it says like, talk to us,
essentially, just comment andsay I want to know this, I want
to know where you would want tostay, what haunted hotel you
would want to stay, what hauntedhotel you would want to stay at

(01:16:26):
, and if there's any that wedidn't mention, there's a couple
honorable mentions uh, thebullock in, uh, deadwood, south
dakota.
Uh, basically every place inthat town is haunted, but that's
, that's one and then another.
I can't name the place becauseI can never remember the name
and I don't want to sit here andwait, but it's in Fort Madison,

(01:16:47):
really cool place.
I've talked about it a coupletimes on here.
Yeah, so places like that,please let us know.
Down below, say, hey, we wantto go to blankety blank, thank
you.
Or hey, you guys didn't mentionbloopity, bloop, okay, thank

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you.
Do that.
We really really appreciate it,wouldn't we?
Dw?
yes yeah, yes, yes.
We would now usually at thistime I'm gonna say where could
uh, we, you, you find us?
But we already did that, but wedid that earlier, uh, because
and we're not guests we'reguests with each other, which is

(01:17:32):
weird, uh, but we're not acouple.
But, um, yeah, so now I'm allout of swords, dw, does this
mean?

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
this means we're back home, we're done.
I mean, yeah, yeah, is it thisor that time?
Then I don't think we do we've,I don't think we do it this or
that we do the back of thefortity well, I feel like we did
that last time.
We were co-hosting each other,right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Okay, so if we did that the last time, then this
time would it be my turn to?
How's that work?
Is it my turn now, if you wantsure go ahead.
All right, it's hotel themed,so you know, whatever dw.

(01:18:27):
Okay.
Would you rather go to a sodavending machine or a food
vending machine?
I?

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
I.
I avoid caffeine, and so a sodavending machine, or a pop
machine, as we say, um, wouldn'thave a lot of options for me,
so all right, food, food, is itokay?

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
yeah, all Continental breakfast or full-on breakfast
buffet.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
You know something about continental breakfast.
I always like a place that'sgot a good continental breakfast
, so yeah, Okay, pool or hot tub, ooh you know, if it's a I'll,

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I'll say hot tub, I'll say hottub.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
But that's a tough one, because they're both nice,
so okay, king size or full sizewell, you're going I'm talking
about beds, but right and you'rejust doing the extremes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
If, with those two options, I'm gonna go with king,
I'm tall enough that my feetdangle off of a full size okay,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Which weird.
That must be really short.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
You know taller people, john, have that problem.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Got it All right, perfect.
We had breakfast, we did thepool and the hot tub thing.
So what else is there abouthotels, dw Ooh, room service or
no room service?

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
I usually don't do room service.
I don't know.
There's something weird about aperson bringing food to your
room.
I don't know why that seemsweird to me.
I usually don't do room service.
Here's the thing.

(01:20:57):
I have no problem going downand having their continental
breakfast in the morning, butsomething about room service
having it brought to my room, Idon't know.
I just never got into that.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
We're getting into the rules here.
Okay, whether or not they'rereal rules or they're just rules
of normal human behavior, buthere we go.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
when you go to the ice machine do you use the ice
bucket given to me?

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Trash can holds more ice.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Yeah, but it's just me, so I don't need a whole lot,
and that is, by the way, one ofthe things I do in every hotel.
First thing, I do grab the icebucket, find where the ice
machine is, because I alwayslike um ice cold water to drink,
so I want to make sure I gotgot my ice bucket very good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
So when you steal stuff, when you're leaving, I
don't but go on nope, when youdo, do you take the towels?

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
nope, when you do, do you take the towels or do you
take the shampoos and soaps?

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
I, I don't take the towels, so it's usually the
shampoos and and soaps.
See, that's why I said when,not if when, because everybody
does, it doesn't.
There's, my mom has an ashtrayfrom the Flamingo Hotel in 1968.
I swear to God.
So, yeah, people, yeah, theytake whatever.
All right, so now we're goingto get into the real fun one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
John Olsen or Jack the Ripper, hmm, jack the ripper

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hanging out with, by the way,this is like hanging out with
having a nice conversationchilling out, yeah, and didn't
jack the ripper kill people.
Well, but wasn't it mostly likeprostitutes and stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
it didn't it?
In this context, it doesn'tmatter.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
He was a cold-blooded murderer and he could murder
you at the blink of an eye ifit's during the day and we're
just having a conversation andhe's not going to kill me, I'd
probably go with jack the ripper.
I mean, oh, he's okay.
I mean, and here's the thing,he's a, we don't know exactly

(01:23:47):
who he is, right oh, they saidthey found out recently.
I can't remember his name, buthe was like he was a barber I
think it'd be cool to talk tohim.
Be like so how'd you, how'd youdo it?
But but maybe he'll pull a andwas like it wasn't me type of
thing.
He'll still deny it, even ifI'm there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
But you know.
So, jack the Ripper, it is Overme.
Alright, that sounds great.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
He might let me stay more than five minutes in
Resurrection.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Yeah, because you'll be dead.
He'll kill you, you'll be thereforever.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
I don't know, it was him the risk you wanted to make.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
That's good.
That's good stuff right there.
I like that.
He didn't have to say it, Icould.
I'll take that risk.
It's all good, alright.
Well, that was this or that,anything else?
Cw.
That All right, well that wasthis, or that, anything else?
Cw, that's it.
That's it for this one.
If you're sad, then we're goingto leave.
That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
All right.
Well, that was hotels, guys.
I hope you want to stay at oneof them.
I do, I want to stay at all ofthem.
But yeah, again, let us know ifwe missed any hotel that you
wanted to talk about, or ifyou've been to any of the ones

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that we did discuss and youcould tell us whether or not
they are really haunted or not,or if you just want to tell us
the hotel you want to go toreally really bad.
Yeah, do that.
Then, on the the thing downbelow, just talk to us all,
right?
Well, dw said nothing else,right?

(01:25:36):
yep nothing else we're good,next week we're in Ukraine, so
pack up buddy, all right.
Okay, we'll stay longer there.
Okay, in the whole countrywe'll be staying, all right.
Well, you know what that means,right?

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
It means they're going to do this wrong, probably
, but you know who?

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
knows, turn it in early.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
We can figure it out all right.
Well, you guys have beenamazing, we have been scolarius
and we are out LIT.