Ep. 75 Can Your Dog Talk to a Psychic?: Natalie Lucia

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Thanks for watching what's going on.

(00:31):
This is hilarious.
I am john olsen and with me, asalways, is dw, the dilated
wormhole serene I have, by theway.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
So I I stopped by the liquor store today and picked
up another case of cider boys.
This is the one, um, this isthe one in in stevens point,
wisconsin, and this is like myfavorite of all the hard ciders
and bonus.
I'm pretty sure that this onethat I got is a different like

(01:05):
flavors than the last one, sothis will be new.
So this is peach county peachcounty, that's what it says no
there's no r that's county.
That's pretty good yeah there'sa mango one in this pack that
I'm looking forward to.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
All right so, since I can do the pop and for some
reason you can't you ready oh,you've got something.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh, all right, what is diet coke?
What was it?
It is diet coke, diet coke.
Okay, because and hey, I I'mnot, I'm not making fun of you
for, uh, not doing your, yourthc or whatever, because it's
probably that in part, that'sled to a weight loss and quite a

(01:57):
bit of weight loss awesome, soa lot of weight loss for now.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
For now, let's see, I always hit I am almost, almost
to my plateau weight and everytime I've ever been there like I
mean, every time I've beenthere since 2018 um, I get
injured, something like I wasthere, and then like my shoulder
, like something messed up there, and then they had to put me on
steroids, and steroids lead toeating and popped right back up.

(02:24):
Then the last time it was myleg, like my hip and leg, and
again steroids, steroids, youknow whatever.
So right now I've been very,very, very digital, like with
water, so a lot of water, andbecause of that, my muscles

(02:48):
aren't tightening and stuff likethey did prior.
so I just I keep.
I mean, it's you can, you cansee, nobody else can see, but I,
I have a liter of water heretoo, so I'm to have a can of
soda and then a water, so butyeah, that's kind of the thing

(03:08):
and it is working and helpingand all that junk.
I don't know if we went overthis or not.
My blood pressure went downlike a lot.
I haven't had my lipids done yet, but I'm assuming, based on how
I feel, they're doing reallywell.
I don't know uh and um.

(03:33):
One more thing I know dw mightbe able to see it and our guest
here might be able to see it,but I got this big old gash
right there in my head what theheck did you do?
I hit my head on my um, on mythe back hatch of my car, like
it's oh.
I hit my head on the top and itwas kind of funny, it's like
kadunk.
And I was like ah, owie.
And then, you know, I was kindof doing what I was doing and my

(03:55):
daughter's like dad, you'rebleeding.
And I was like I'm like oh,okay.
And then, yeah, I was bleeding.
I looked like I just got out ofa match with mcfoley, like I,
my whole face was just like Iwas wearing a crimson mask.
Yeah, it was just, it was, itwas all blood.
It was crazy.
Wow, yeah, just for a littlebit it's.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I mean, it's a, it's a good gash, but I mean well, it
and since you said yeah, sinceyou have no hair, it you know,
you can see it pretty clearly.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, so I mean there's that.
What's been going on with you,dw?
I told about my weight loss andmy injuries.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I mean I haven't cut off any of my fingers lately.
Okay, I've been doing all right.
Usually when I have sharpobjects, I keep my digits away
from it, Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I try to as well.
Sometimes it doesn't happenthat way.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, I haven't been to do my yearly physical lately.
Last time, actually, mycholesterol went up like I have
I.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
I have the hereditary high cholesterol like I'm not
like two fist donuts and shittoo, so I mean, that doesn't
help.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
But it's like I've been.
I'm pretty sure we've gone overthis.
I've had high cholesterol since, like they first tested my
cholesterol like way back when Iwas a kid, so it's always been
high um, and last time I wasreally optimistic that I so I
started taking um fish oil,which is supposed to help with

(05:38):
uh cholesterol, and itapparently did not.
So I'm a little.
I was a little disappointedabout that, but I'm curious to
see if this time around it'll beany better.
I haven't gone in a while but Iprobably should pretty soon
here.
You know what's really crazythat some people go to the
doctor more than once every 10years.

(05:59):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
We discussed it.
Remember when it was, it was2005,.
Dw.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, no, actually, actually, if you're counting the
urgent care, or did you go theER, was it ER urgent care that
you went?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
to oh with my finger.
Yeah, oh, I wasn't gonna go tothe ER, I went to just uh urgent
care and got to take care of soyou saw?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean, you saw a doctor there.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, but then I don't know if that counts.
As you know, she told me Ididn't need to be there, so well
, she didn't take your bloodwork so find enough to just take
care of yourself in any way,shape or form.
So you could just do that anddon't worry about anything.
I can start building myself,which would be fun, yeah, so

(06:45):
actually.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So I had a question, okay, um, kind of medical
related, because when you hadyour uh, I don't know what you
want to call it, you'rebasically near death experience,
not near death death, deathdeath experience.
Yes, so you don't have to tellme a number, but I have had to

(07:08):
do an ambulance ride and thoseare expensive right was
airlifted like crazy expensiveyeah, I, I don't, I, I okay.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
So hold on just one second.
We're gonna put this on pausefor just one second.
Pw, you standing there justright now.
I'm going to put you onsomething.
Everybody, just you know, dowhat you do.
I don't know what you're doing.
If you're driving, if you'reworking, whatever, just continue
doing this.
I have to go get something justreal quick.
It's going to be 30 seconds, Ipromise.
Ready, let's go.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
All right For our listeners at home.
John didn't go to the bathroombefore the show, and so now he's
running, Hopefully.
Oh shoot, he didn't mute hismic, so if you hear a toilet
flush in the background, that'sbecause John is not good at
playing ahead.
So, and we'll see how long 30seconds is in his world.

(08:01):
Oh, that was actually prettygood.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Alright, guys, false alarm.
I couldn't get to it.
It's too far back and I didn'twant to make a mess and hear
whatever.
But what I was going to go getwas what I call my $100,000 mug.
Okay, it is what they gave methe water mug.
My $100,000 mug and I putalcohol in there, um all the

(08:26):
good stuff.
I was gonna go grab it, so soyou show.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
But yeah, I have something similar and I called a
pregnancy mug because it waswhen our daughter was born and
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
So that's what I was gonna go get the hundred
thousand dollar mug.
He asked me what the cost was.
I don't know, but I know thatall together with all the days
in ICU, all the rides Because Ihad an ambulance ride and a
helicopter ride- that's true.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
An ambulance ride to the one hospital saying you need
to go over here, and theyairlifted you there.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
And then all that stuff.
So, yeah, it's well over$100,000.
Wow, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
but anyway, so um, almost be cheaper to buy a
helicopter at that point.
But I mean you couldn't fly it.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
So no, I couldn't, I would be worse than okay.
Yeah, no, it wouldn't be good.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Let's just say, um, yeah, and I don't know, I feel
like I've never bought a blackmarket helicopter so I don't
know.
I've never bought a blackmarket helicopter so I don't
know how much they really are.
It might be a couple bucks, dw.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I feel like our listeners would be really
excited about this, so I have todo this.
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(09:48):
forward, slash ScolariusPod, andyou can get a Kripers t-shirt.
That's right, kripers.
It's not what DW says, but it'swhat I say.
Dw says, and I feel everybodywould love this oak riper's
t-shirt, so it'll be there withour scolarius logo and I'll just

(10:10):
say oak riper's.
Nobody will know what the hellit means, but it doesn't matter.
I think it's hilarious.
Both myself and my queenconsort have been saying cripers
over and over and over again,have adopted it, even though DW
does not say it.
Yep, we say he does and weconsistently use it.

(10:33):
What does DW say?
Well, he does say here's thething.
And you can get that t-shirt atcrowdmadecom forward slash
collections, forward slashScololarius pod did it right
that time.
And not only that.
You can get my t-shirt, whichis I have no idea who john olsen

(10:55):
is, which apparently is it.
People are buying that, whichis fun.
I like that, that's good.
And then also also, if youwanted to, you can get the
t-shirt that says you know, likelike, I'm not trying to offend
you, but I don't care if I dothat one, that one's a whole lot
of fun.
We have collars, leashes thoseare for your animals or your

(11:17):
significant other, I don't carewhat you're into, Listen, that's
whatever.
And we also have pet bowls.
We're calling it pet bowlsbecause we could say a dog bowl,
but they're not only for dogs.
You can use it for cats,ferrets, rats, rabbits, guinea
pigs, tarantulas I don't know,that's weird, but anyway, uh,
you can use it for anything.

(11:38):
You can get that.
And I also have mugs and hatsand all that really cool stuff.
Most of it's under $30 plusshipping and handling, obviously
, but it's really affordable.
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(12:01):
Forward slash Scolactions oh myGod, I cannot get this right
today.
Crowdmadecom forward slashcollections, forward slash
SkulleriusPod.
And yeah, you can, or you canjust go to Crowdmadecom and
search and search for Skullerius, which I think would be a lot
better for me to say yeah, butyou know whatever, Since you

(12:23):
can't pronounce things.
Yeah, better for me to say yeah,but you know, whatever, since
you can't pronounce things, yeah, and as you're there and you're
, you're trolling around in inthis because I'm assuming I
don't.
I'm not saying you're a troll,but you could be and I don't
know what you would be trollingaround, crowd made for.
But whatever, you might just bewondering what's going on with
your co-ghosts and you know youmight want to like reach out to
dw and if you wanted to do that,you can go to dw serene

(12:45):
comedian on facebook.
You can find me at john olsoncommunity 2.0 on facebook.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
You can find us both together on facebook but we're
not a couple, no, which is alsoa t-shirt.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
That is also a t-shirt at crowdbaycom.
Just search for sclarus.
Anyway, we are not a couple, no, but that's at the sclarius
page.
Also, we have a tiktok and aninstagram.
Both of those are sclarius, butthe tiktok is sclarius8, which
is weird.
Um, and you know, maybe you wantto reach out to us even more.

(13:19):
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Maybe you want to send us anemail and and just ask us how
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(13:41):
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(14:05):
listen to a few episodes, one ofthem being, I don't know,
episode 38, you know, and why,why am I bringing up episode?

Speaker 2 (14:22):
38 was the the first time we talked with our guest
from today and, um, we'll justleave it at that because we got
more to get into, but first weshould bring her on and then
we'll talk about, uh, everythingelse you go back, listen to
episode 38, sex, chocolate anddogs, which is forgot.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
We called it that anyways.
So without further ado, pleasewelcome back to our show the
psychic medium and also very funpet psychic right, natalie.
Lucia.
Natalie, how are you?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm good, are you?
Thank you for having me back.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
You're welcome.
Dw is excited.
I don't know if you can seehe's bouncing all over his chair
and everything.
He's been excited.
We talked about your episodenumerous times because it's the
only time that he's ever beenjust absolutely yeah, he was
stunned, he was like she got meand yeah, whatever.

(15:27):
So he's been trying to debunkit for I don't know six months
now and and every time he's likewe gotta get her back on, we
gotta get her back on thecreepers, we gotta get her back
on and I was like minus thecreepers.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
yes, that's true, and the and part of the reason is,
last time we talked about Clover, the other dog, and which was
you were dead right, but I said,okay, if she can do that again
with our other dog, that wouldbe even more impressive.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
The other dog is Dingleberry, so the other dog.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
So last time was clover, um, and, by the way, she
is.
When we say hellhounds ofserene manor, that's who we're
talking about.
That's clover, because she'snuts.
Um, now I don't want to say toomuch because I'm going to leave
it up to you.
I'll leave it at.
This is posy.
Posy is our other dog.

(16:26):
They are not related at all.
Posy is a uh, chawini mostly.
She's several different breeds,but mostly chumini, um, and
again, not related other than byuh, adoption.
So I'm gonna leave it at that.
I'm gonna.

(16:46):
I want to make sure you can seeher.
Um, oh, yeah, there you go hereup here, puppy.
And here's the other advantageto doing john, to doing these by
zoom now she can see a posy inreal time as opposed to.
I was just sitting with Cloverlast time, right?

(17:08):
So here's Posey, and also so wehave.
Before Clover and Posey, we hada different dog, but we'll get
to that one in a moment, butfirst here's posy.
So, uh, what can you tell meabout posy?

Speaker 3 (17:31):
just right off the bat, right off the bat.
Yes, just so you know, I'mgoing to take a picture of posy,
okay, sure, and, and I justwant to explain why because the
eyes are the gateway to the soul.
So if you see me looking to myleft, um, perfect, okay.
So if you see me looking to myleft, I just have a photo just

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for the gate, the eyes, that'sfine yep so posy can kind of
relax and yeah do that.
you know, posey do her thing.
So I want to say this first.
I want to just start off withthis when I feel into posing,
when I feel into personality, Ifeel like I like to do my own
thing, I like to be my own thing.

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I don't like to be around a lotof chaos, just don't like that.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
When you were sitting and you guys were talking and
discussing your stuff, I was,you know, started starting to
kind of energetically blend alittle bit like hey, listen, I'm
here, I want to blend, I justwant you to get used to me.
And I got a like who are you,lady?
That's what I got.
Like who are you?
So I know that we're not quickto trust everyone and I know

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that when I feel this not quickto trust everyone is because I
could also read people veryclearly and very carefully, so I
know who cannot be trusted andwho needs time.
I'm not saying Posey's nottrusting me, I'm just saying
that I need time to trust.
And I feel like this also comesfrom when I was and I want to
use the word rescued, because Ifeel like I was chosen, I was

(19:05):
found and I feel like I wasn'tlike given.
So I feel like you know how,how Posey came into the family
was more of a not expected.
Can you understand this?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Um, yes and no.
I because I know well, and yeah, okay, yeah, um, those at home
can't see her licking my faceright now.
Um, and, and the reason Ianswer it like that is because,

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um, the, the way we got her wasvery deliberate.
But let me just stop you first.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I can't, I'm sorry we need to cut you off, but I'm
gonna be cutting you off duringthis time no, that's fine you
might go to say something and Ijust want to stop you, but I
feel like she was not thespecific one that was deliberate
though, because she makes mefeel like she was not the
specific one that was deliberatethough, because she makes me
feel like there was eitheranother choice or other choices
that were within her.
So it sounds really weird notliterally within her, but I just

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feel she just makes me feellike and tell me no if it's no,
because I'm going to go deeperwith her.
I'm not shy of no's, but shejust makes me feel like she
wasn't the expected one.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I want to be careful to say yeah, you're completely
right, but that here's whathappened she was.
She was adopted during thepandemic pandemic, during the
like peak of the pandemic, andshe was actually like the third

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or fourth dog that we tried toadopt and because during the
pandemic, if anyone had anyonetried to adopt dogs, especially
smaller dogs, it was insane.
So, yes, we tried to adoptother dogs before we we got her.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
So that's what she said.
She's, I mean bottom line.
You're saying yes and no.
No, that was a yes.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, because when, at first, when you were talking
about rescue, I thought thatbecause some people think, in
terms of dogs, is it the humanesociety rescued them and then we
just adopted them or we rescuedthis person or rescued this dog
from the street, I just feellike when some people say they

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have a rescue dog, it's notnecessarily that they found the
dog sick and in the, the wet inthe lake and they rescued it.
It's that someone else rescuedthem and they just went to the
shelter to adopt them.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
So I'm going to take that little piece for people who
are listening.
Okay, know that when you go toa shelter or when you go to a
rescue and adopt, you're savinga life.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
You are, and I don't want to devalue that at all,
because, especially in a lot ofthese places, if they don't get
adopted, sometimes they put themdown.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
There's very few no-kill shelters Actually
there's no such thing as ano-kill shelter, and this is why
Not to get off on a tangent,but this is why, when no-kill
shelters say they're no-kill,you ask them this question If
you have an animal that'selderly and suffering, what are
you going to do?
If you have an animal that'sdangerous and has, let's say, a

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mental health issue that'sviolent, what are you going to
do?
So there's actually no suchthing as no kill what they mean
is no kill?
think I don't know, but correctme if I'm wrong.

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I just heard from Posey likeI'm allowed a lot to handle, so
I don't know if I am so, if I'ma little bit much to handle,
just let me know the way Iexplain things.
I'm a little bit much to handle, just let me know the way I
explain things.
I want to go back back to whatPosey was saying as well, also
because there's this piece of methat also feels like going back

(23:39):
to the rescue, going back toyou're just going to hear noise
in a second.
It's just take her up.
My, my, my kitten is gettingfixed tomorrow.
So at nine o'clock I've beenfixed.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Guess what time it is right now my house is nine
o'clock you've been fixed, butfor different reasons, john mine
wasn't because I couldn't stoppeeing or whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I wasn't marking my territory everywhere it was it
stopped marking no, it's becausethe doctor said we don't need
more of these.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
So let's make sure.
So so I'm sorry.
I just did the reading.
I knew nine o'clock was thetime and I heard the door open,
because it's exactly nineo'clock, okay.
So, going back to Posey, I alsofeel like there's this piece of
.
I have this.
How do I explain this?

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Posey makes me feel like I'mhaving this connection where I
know when someone doesn't feelwell or is sad, and then I want
to go to the heart center.
So who in the home is eithergrieving or has dealt with grief
from the point of when Poseycame into the home.
So I think there was loss orsomething in the family.
Where Posey comes in and kindof leans on the heart is what
I'm seeing that lean on theheart for the loss that there's

(24:56):
been.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
All right.
So I'm going to I forgive mefor testing you so much, because
a lot of times you've beengetting it close and I don't
want to like, say like I don'twant to have you say, posey
seems like a nice dog, and thenI go off on oh yes, you're right
, because here's why.
So I'm, I want, you are loss.

(25:20):
You are very close I'm, but I'mcurious as if you can figure
out exactly what.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
And I don't want to say much more than that, because
I just, I just feel like if Itell you anything else, I'm
going to give it away instantly.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Absolutely.
And what I want you to say isyes, I could understand this.
No, I cannot.
Or maybe because it maybe islike, maybe I don't know.
You know, like natalie's, yourfavorite color?
Purple, maybe, right rightright so so you could answer
with that also, only because andpeople who are listening, I
want to explain this.
Unfortunately it's not dial adead person.

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I wish it was where I couldlike, oh my god jim is here and
he's like coming in and posysaying, hey jim, why are you
here?
Like that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I wish it was that way.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
But let me just go back to Posey for a second,
because I want to talk about theloss.
And then Posey brings me to theheart center.
So I don't know if I'm comingto the heart center because this
individual had passed connectedto the heart chest area, or
Posey showing me the grief thatthe family has experienced,
Because when I feel this I alsofeel like the glue of the family
.
So I feel like this would havebeen someone who was a

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generation above the family.
So I don't feel like this is acontemporary to you Meaning.
I don't feel like this is abrother or a cousin or something
like that.
I feel like this is either likea motherly or a fatherly figure
.
And I'm not tapping in me.
I'm trying not to tap in mediummuscly.
I'm trying to get this fromPosey, which is very different.
But I have this feeling ofparental love and care where

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there's like a void or a missingpiece there, Even though I know
they're still around me and Istill feel this, I'm still
missing them.
So Posey's coming in to givethat feeling of let me lean on
this grief feeling of let melean on this grief not to take
it away, but to make it a littlebit less.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Can you understand how I'm feeling this from post
okay and the things.
Uh, I, I'm trying so hard notto say he's struggling, he wants
to speak well, because thething is, the more you
elaborated on it, the more Iworried.
You're like not getting it, um,because are you talking about um

(27:37):
?
Gosh, how do I say this withoutgiving it away?
Because I feel, I feel like youmay be right about there was a
loss, um, but I'm trying to.
I I don't want to say itwithout, but I, I feel like
you're close is the thing, um,but I don't want to just say it

(28:03):
was such and such.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Don't say it was such and such.
Don't say that For me.
Don't say that.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Um, because I have to get.
I'm getting it from Posey.
So, for people who arelistening, this is not a
mediumship, reading.
You know, I'm not connectingwith the spirit world and
bringing through evidence.
And doing this I'm bringingthrough the evidence of what
Posey sees, feels, hears.
He sees, feels, hears and knowsfrom what's around you.
So that's what that piece is.
I just want and I know I talkfast, I'm sorry I'm sorry you

(28:30):
got that new yorker at talk I'mdoing a reading here.
It really is and I try, like youknow, in training and
everything like my, my mentor,she was from england and she was
we might have to send you forlike speech classes.
I was like, oh my God, this isso bad.
But I want to go back to Poseyfor a second, because Posey also

(28:51):
gives me October as a verysignificant month.
So when I get the month ofOctober I would look into a
birthday, an anniversary or amonth of passing, because I know
October is like being shined inmy face is significant for you
or someone close to you in thefamily.
Can you understand October?
I know I'm putting you througha magnifying glass.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
October.
Well, and the thing is, theloss that I was thinking about
was definitely not in October.
I'm trying to think back, um,I'm trying to think back and,

(29:33):
and actually, um, just just toto, uh, we, we did have a very
significant loss recently, butit was, uh, gosh, just like a
year ago or so, since we hadgotten posy.
We've had posy since we've hadposy, gosh, what three years now
, um, and this, this person,this first person that I'm

(29:56):
talking about, was very recently.
So posy has been here sincethen, um, but october, gosh I'm
not thinking of anything inoctober.
Um, I'm writing this downbecause the the the other thing
is.
By the way, after our lastepisode, I took all the stuff

(30:19):
that you know we went over and Iwas like I went to my wife and
was like, so get this, and um,she was, she was very, uh, uh,
uh, pleasantly surprised too.
So I'm gonna bring up upoctober, wait see you got.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I'm thinking this is fun what's here's, what's uh.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Um, can you tell me again why you thought october
was significant?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
posy is giving me october as a significant month
in the family.
So when I'm giving you theinformation about the person who
has passed and all that stuffthat's being shared with me,
posey said mention Octoberbecause October is important as
well also.
Okay, so that's why I broughtit up.
And then I heard Posey say aname and I just have to say that
when I say names I have to saysounds like, because the Claire

(31:19):
audience is a little bitdifficult to grasp at times, but
it sounds like Kate orCatherine.
So I know Kate or Catherinewould be a significant name.
Sounds like in the family.
And I always say sounds likebecause people are like well,
how about Jim?
I'm like?
no, I didn't say Jim, you knowlike that's not what I said you
know, so I always say it, but Iknow Posey's giving me that name
as well as being significantalso, which could be a middle

(31:41):
name as well.
Also, I should say too and Iwant to go back to October
because there's somethingsignificant.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well, and the thing is so, there is something
significant in October, but itdoesn't.
It's not at all related to theloss that I was thinking of.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
And that's okay if it's not related.
There's, that's okay.
If it's not related, no, that'snot related.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
There is something significant in october, but it's
not sad or a loss or grievingor anything like that.
It's actually a joyous thing.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
That's why I said great anniversary or month of
passing.
So that's why I said so.
It's something that'ssignificant, but it doesn't have
to be something tragic right,okay um, and then posy shows me
the number 18 is significantalso, and I see a calendar as
well also.
So I know around now pleaselisten to where the way I'm
saying this around the 18th of amonth, there would be another

(32:40):
celebration, and I always laughat this because people are like
how do you forget my birthday,or whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Okay, so there is, and I'm we're kind of going all
over here because so there's adate in October that is
significant.
It's a ways away not close, butnot far away from the 18th.

(33:16):
The 18th is significant in adifferent month, for other
reasons, month um.
For other reasons.
Um, I'm trying to remember whenI I was.
You were so close, though, tothe event that I thought you
were going to be talking about,but actually I don't remember
the specific date that ithappened, and I should have

(33:39):
asked my wife about thisbeforehand.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
That's okay when you say it's not close to the 18th,
the only way, and that's why Isaid the 18th of a month and you
told me oh well, it's the 22ndand 23rd.
That's not close for me.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Okay, so that in that case it's not close.
But October is significant.
There is an October event, Yep.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
And the other piece of evidence is that the 18th of
another month or around the 18th, which would be the 17th, the
18th or the 19th you give me the, you give me the 24.
I'm going to say no but, it'sanother significant piece that's
there now to go into Posey fora second.
Is Posey sleeping right now?
She's pretty much.

(34:23):
Yeah, yeah, do you want me towake her up?
I mean no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
OK, she, she does this thing where she's one of
those dogs that will sit up andlook at you and fall asleep
sitting up.
So she needs to remember thatshe can actually lay down and
take a nap because she's notmissing anything.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
So I just want to talk about a couple of things
for her.
One is, um, we'll be talkingabout the doctors before you
came in, like you guys havingyour physicals and your checkups
and all that stuff.
When posy comes in, I'm notliking the way the back of the
teeth feel, so we may need tohave some dental cleaning done
that you may not be aware of,but you could look in her mouth

(35:04):
right now and look at the backand see that the gums are, um,
irritated.
I would say look at her.
Yeah, don't bother me.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Um and uh, and you're , you're close.
Was there something else abouther teeth that you were gonna
mention?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
well, this is.
It sounds terrible, but I alsowant to like pull an extra tooth
or two, so I feel that as wellalso.
So I don't know if she's hadher teeth pulled already, but if
she hasn't, I need to get themdone because I feel like she has
extra I don't think I I I neverheard extra, but actually.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So what I was going to say, though, is she did have
a tooth chipped, so when we wentto the vet, she said, oh, she's
been chewing on too hard ofchews, and she actually chipped
one of her teeth.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Is she to make sure that there's no extra teeth in
there?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I believe she did yes and I didn't hear anything.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
She did say she needs a cleaning, though that is
common for small dogs like this.
I disagree with that.
She's not that old.
It's common for dogs that are10, 11, 12, 13 years old If
she's having teeth issues.
Now there's one of two things.
I'm not a vet.
I'm going to say that Not a vet, it's either genetics or the

(36:39):
quality of the food.
Don't mean to insult you, butI'm not liking her food.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm not liking her food, solet's go into that for a second.
Oh wait, I want to go back tothe teeth, though.
Also, I do want her, when she'sgoing back in, I do want her
teeth checked again, cause Ifeel like there is something

(37:00):
here I know nobody can see me,but something on the sides on
the top that I feel like may noteven come through yet, but I
feel like there's somethinggoing on with space that I don't
like.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
So I just want to share that, because I'm not
liking something with the teethbesides the chipped tooth.
Okay, there's something else Idon't like.
Um, I have a piece of paperhere that I scribble on in case

(37:31):
you guys want to see that.
They're probably wondering whatthe hell are you doing right now
?
Because I'm just going into thefood situation for a second
Because I feel like it's veryprocessed Kibble.
You're fine, she's uh.

(38:02):
So I'm not.
She's here and it's okay if shehad.
If she has to go, no no, she'sfine, she's uh.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Uh can hear her sister outside the door and
she's wondering what she's doing.
That's what she's looking at.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
So when I feel into the kibble I don't feel what I
would call limited ingredient.
I don't feel that.
First is Posian kibble.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
First is Posey on Kimball.
She's she's on a.
Actually she's on a healthyweight food because because she
was too heavy before and so shewas told to switch and she
actually lost weight and theysaid OK, that's, whatever she's

(38:52):
on is good, because she's at herideal weight now so she's on
the prescription food no, no,well, not prescription.
So at the store, when you getdog food there, you can usually
get a regular or a healthyweight, uh something.
So she's on healthy weight.
Oh, and you gotta settle downnow.
I know what's going on okayyeah, they're home and so the

(39:16):
daughter is going to come in and, yeah, and take her with in a
little bit but so when I thissounds gross the way I'm going
to explain it.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I'm gonna explain it the way it's being explained to
me.
When I taste the k?
Kibble, when I eat the kibble,I don't like the quality of it,
and that's what I was sayingearlier when I started to talk
about the kibble.
So if I were to say anything, Iwould look into changing her
food to a higher quality of food.

(39:48):
That would still becausethere's no fillers and there's
no additives that are not needed.
So I just feel like her teeth,her body, her coat looks great
just looking at it, but tappinginto her and feeling as I feel
like if her food was a betterquality she would just be in a
better space.

(40:10):
I'm not saying you guys aretaking care of her right right
you know, but I do have to saythat I just didn't like the
taste of the food.
I just did it, um, and it couldhave also been she was.
Was there ever a time that shewas on prescription diet food,
though, or prescription food?
No okay, that food makes mereally nauseous.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, no, my yeah, I know about.
Well, and that stuff my parentshave a dog on prescription food
and it's insanely expensive.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
And it's horrible.
I just want to let you know.
It's the worst thing ever.
I hate to say this, but thepeople that are listening it's
the bottom of the slaughterhouseand then they fill it with
things that are not needed.
That's the truth oh and here.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I was waiting for that bye posy hello there little
pw she pretty much is yeah yeah, all right, but you get a
picture of posy, so you can, soyou're good yeah, I have a

(41:17):
picture of posy I, I cannot waituntil this part is over,
because, oh, do I have questionsfor you, natalie, based on what
you're saying, and not because,like, I believe or disbelieve
or anything like that, butbecause just how you're doing it
is intriguing the shit out ofme.
You're, you guys are takingnotes and everything.
I'm taking notes too, butthey're up here not saying

(41:39):
they'll stay, but they're rightthere.
So, yeah, I, I'm anxiouslyawaiting for the uh, the reveal
of this.
So DW can either I don't knowsilently shit himself or let
people know that.
Well, so here's two, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Can you?
So now I'd like to ask you socan you tell me anything about
Posey's past?
Because before, prior to whenwe adopted her I mean, we got
her when she was pretty young,by the way, but we know very
little about the first.

(42:23):
I believe it was like six orseven months of her life- can.
Can you tell me anything aboutthat?
Do you?
Can you see anything there?

Speaker 3 (42:32):
What's interesting is that I just want to share this
really fast.
Is that, um?
Does Posey now have separationanxiety, or was there a period
of time where she had separationanxiety Cause all of a sudden?
I was just riddled.
I pulled her picture up whenshe left because all of a sudden
, I was just riddled.
I pulled her picture up whenshe left.

(42:53):
I was just riddled with anxietyall of a sudden.
So before I go into her past,or ask her to share with me.
would you understand why myheart started racing and feels
like anxiety to me?
Or is it not hers and she'sacknowledging someone else that
has anxiety?
And I don't diagnose anybody,I'm just saying that's what it
feels like.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
She doesn't really have separation anxiety.
I tell her we're going, it'stime for you to go in your crate
.
She doesn't like it, but whenshe's in there she's fine.
She doesn't whimper, she laysdown, takes a nap, and it's

(43:41):
pretty much been that way sinceI can remember.
So not really so muchseparation anxiety.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I feel like she's looking for someone.
Separation anxiety.
I feel like she's looking forsomeone, so when we're away, you
mean like I'm sorry, I'm justtaking, I'm just dropping notes
that she's like, like what she'ssharing with me.
So if you see me looking downor scribbling, I'm just trying

(44:07):
to understand what she's showingme, because my heart started to
race and I feel like I'mlooking for someone Female.
I don't like giving ages,because now that I've hit a

(44:31):
certain age, I'm like right nowI'm going to say that right now,
um, and I think this would havebeen in the beginning, so I
want to go to the beginning.
When you first brought Poseyhome I know that we said that,
that I think I heard you say yougot her from a shelter, but I

(44:52):
could be making that part up.
I don't know if you shared thatyes, I'm pretty sure was there
a foster home?
Do you know if she was in?
before she was brought to theshelter.
Okay, so that's what I want totalk about, because I feel like
there was that confusion.
So she might be bringing meactually to the anxiety of the
actual space of the shelter andthe noise, even if she was there

(45:13):
for an hour, two hours, sixhours, six days, because my
foster home that I was in, Ifeel like there wasn't just me,
I feel like I was with others,so I was with my litter and I
feel like I was safe there, andthen there was a lot of noise
and chaos that I was brought to.
So for her, from before shecame to you, I feel like you'll

(45:40):
abandonment.
Actually, do you know if hermother was found on the road or
on the street or in the townpregnant?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
that's the part we're not a hundred percent on.
We do believe, uh, if Iremember right, she was
abandoned, okay, um, but I don'tknow if they, if even the
shelter, knew who her mother was.
So that part I can neitherconfirm nor deny.
But I'm pretty, I think you'reprobably right.

(46:15):
I think she was, I think shewas abandoned.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
And then I feel like abandoned and like found.
I don't know if it's indarkness or like in a basement,
but that's what it feels like tome.
I feel, like it's secluded,hidden and dark.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
So, john, do you want to ask?
I don't know if we should likesegue into the other dog, so
before we do that, do you haveanything you want to
specifically ask?
Or should we about clover,about, or about posy, posy, yep
uh, you mean ask natalie aboutposy.

(47:00):
Yeah, yeah well, yeah, actuallyyou were, you were saying
you've got.
You know, I have a ton ofquestions.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
You said like I, this is where it stumps me.
Okay, you were like um.
You said you know she's sayingyou're hearing blah, blah, blah,
right so.
And you also said clearaudience comes in and it sounds

(47:27):
like right.
So I guess my, my, my questionis this like it's a dog okay,
the dog speaks english.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Is that what you're asking?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
well, no, like are.
Is this?
Obviously they hear us when wesay no sit, or some some of them
do when they say no sit orwhatever.
Right, they understand thecommand.
So my brain goes well, theyunderstand English.
But then again, maybe theydon't, maybe they understand the

(48:04):
inflection of the voice orwhatever, and they're like, oh
OK, last time I heard this I hadto do this.
And that's what they do, kindof like the obviously the whole
schrodinger thing you know, likewith with the bell obviously.
You know, every time you don'tthink of the bell, who's

(48:27):
schrodinger?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
oh, that's the cat is the cat alive and dead.
My bad, yeah, pablo's bellwhich is another I mixed up if
I'm gonna be wrong.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
That is the best subject to be wrong in, right
there like smart but stupid.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Um, all right, so it's either pavlov or einstein,
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Einstein.
I can't remember one of them, Idon't know.
One of them was a patent clerk,whatever, um.
So what are you hearing?
You're hearing English like howdoes this?

Speaker 3 (48:59):
work that's a fair question it's so true, and we
forget, like because this issomething I do, I forget these
things.
You know what I'm Like.
I forget to like explain thingsand like I joked around, I said
, you know, it's not dial a deadperson.
But there's some people outthere that really think that I'm
having a conversation andclairaudient is subjective.

(49:23):
You guys can hear me speakright now and hear every word.
I say so if something'ssubjective to me, that's where
I'm like.
You know it sounds like becauseI'm hearing it outside.
But then if I ask you guys tosing happy birthday to
yourselves, you hear yourselfsinging.
That's objective, so it's inyour mind.
So that's.

(49:43):
That's the difference betweenthe clairaudient sound that
we're hearing or that I'mhearing sound that we're hearing
or that I'm hearing animalsconnect telepathically.
I have to put all these puzzlepieces together.
So what happens is is that,posy, I hear something, I see
something, I feel something, Iknow something.

(50:05):
I have to put all these piecestogether in a tenth of a second
and figure out what the heck areyou sharing with me?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
I gotcha okay.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, that's why yeah that's why I always say mediums
, or or animal communicators, orpsychics.
A lot of times we're not wrong,we misinterpret.
So that's what happens.
So posy can be showing mesomething and to me this is what

(50:33):
I think it is, and posy mightbe like you, freaking moron.
That is not what I'm right yep,you know, like why are you not
getting what I'm sharing, whichwhich can happen, you know, and
that's why the other day I had areading and I asked the girl
why am I seeing baseball andcracker jacks?
And she was like sort of cryingand I'm like thinking baseball.

(50:54):
I'm thinking baseball, like didyour dad take you to baseball?
She says no, my name'sJacqueline.
My dad called me cracker jacks.
Oh, misinterpretation.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Right, I'm baseball.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I'm thinking cracker jacks, that's what he's showing
me.
So that's the other piece.
So it's a lot of telepathiccommunication.
But I have to put all of thosepieces together and figure it
out yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
So I was sitting there going like, okay, like,
and not trying to be like hahaor anything.
No, that's not the point.
But I'm like, if you're,everything is subjective, right
anyway, like it, everything ispart of perspective, like even,
I would assume even psychicmediumship and stuff like that

(51:40):
is also a part of itsperspective.
So you're seeing it from theperspective of what they were
seeing.
Everybody knows that a memoryis just an echo of an echo.
Your memories that you havearen't even 100, true, they're
an echo of an echo.
So therefore, like, my point inthat is like, even if you are

(52:01):
tapping into her, you're seeinga memory that could be all
jumbled as well.
So what you're communicating,like, whether it's me, clover,
uh, dingleberry, what's thedog's name?
I'm sorry, I apologize.
Posy, posy, my bad, okay,dingleberry, dw, whatever, like

(52:23):
it I'm gonna name a dog dw.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
So dw come here, not you dw.
Dw stop that other.
Dw don't hump that.
No, not you dw the other dw ohyou, dw, stop humping that
anyway.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
So, um, no, I'm just, it's whether you're getting
communication from anybody.
It could be all jumbled anyway.
Right, so what your yourinterpretation of our
interpretation?
That's what you get, like youever seen the movie?

Speaker 3 (52:57):
minority report I've never seen that.
I'm not a big movie tv person.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I mean sorry everybody's like oh my god, but
it's it's a great flick, buttheir pictures that they're
showing and they're puttingthese people away in prison for
a psychic, basically saying thatthis is going to happen, but
they don't know, 100 that'sgoing to happen.
That's just like theinterpretation.
So the anybody ever wants towatch a good movie, watch

(53:24):
minority report and you'll seehow all that unfolds.
But my point is is it's allinterpretation.
So even if posy is talking toher and saying here, you know,
here's the light, hello, likethere's where it's supposed to,
whether she could still be likemillimeters off and kind of

(53:49):
correct at the same time, likeshe's been pretty much right on.
I mean, I don't know everysingle thing, but I know by by
your reaction to what she'ssaying and the fact that there
are things that I do know she'sbeen pretty spot on today she
has, she well, and the thing islike the, the thing you said
about being millimeters close,she has been like multiple times

(54:14):
, but again, I don't want togive away.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Oh, do you mean this?
Right?
Because I'm, I'm just waitingfor for you to say this is what
I mean, or this is what I heard,or something like that.
So I'm, I'm trying'm tryingagain, I'm, I'm getting excited
because, yes, you're so close,but I don't want to say, I don't

(54:38):
want to give away the answerbecause it's.
You know, I would much ratheryou you say it.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
So I agree, I agree, I would much rather say it.
You know like I would muchrather say it.
So I agree, I agree, I wouldmuch rather say it.
You know like I would muchrather say it and so yeah, so
what?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
what else can you tell?
I think, here let's do this.
I have one more thing, okay, goahead one more thing.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Then you go back that , like I said, it's a dw show
today.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
I was gonna say, this is the first time I've tried
like no, no, I want to talknormally it's a DW show today.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I was going to say this is the first time I've
tried Like no, no, I want totalk.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Normally it's like, yeah, whatever, just wake me
when it's over.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
All right.
So what is I'm trying tospeckle in like actual interview
questions as we're goingthrough this thing because I
feel the reading's going to takemost of it.
But I want to obviously talk toyou as well, because you know
it's been six months and some ofthe stuff that I may have gone

(55:38):
over on the first episode I'veagain jumbled 100 episodes of
people.
Essentially, you know that it'sall up in there.
So what is your percentage, orwhat do you feel your percentage
of being correct is with yourreadings?

Speaker 3 (55:57):
so this is the honest answer.
I'm only as good as my lastreading, so my percentage is not
.
If you ever watch me live onFacebook, people might think, oh
my God, she's 90% right, 95%right.
But it's also.
It's a trifecta here.

(56:18):
I'm working with the animal andI'm working with DW.
Right now, if DW just wants totest and be like no, no, no,
that link is being cut off andI'm not saying you're doing that
.
No, that link is being cut offand I'm not saying you're doing
that, but that link is being cutoff, that link that's being cut
off.
Now the animal's like oh mygosh, I'm hearing no, no, no, no

(56:39):
.
And I'm like okay, well, I'mgetting no, no, no, no.
And even though I could beright, it's not.
There's not that trust there,you know.
So not, there's not that trustthere, you know.
So that's the other piece.
Yeah, right, trust therebetween the three of us, or
sometimes it's 50 of us, becausepeople have numerous animals
and people in the spirit world.
I never check my percentages.

(57:01):
I've had people tell me whatthey are and I'm like I don't
want to know.
And usually their theirinterviews like oh my God, we
met with you last year and wedid a New Year's Eve thing and
this and that and the other.
I try to trust in the spiritworld and the animals.
I'm just a conduit.
It has nothing to do with me.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
OK, right.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Well, which is fair, because I feel like I have this
whole interview been going.
I don't know if that's you knowyou're close, but I'm not going
to say it.
So I agree with that where youmight be right, but if I'm just
saying no, that's not it, thenit comes off, as you know swing

(57:45):
and a miss.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Well.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
OK, so that's a good question too.
That's good, also Like give mea no when that's a good question
too.
that's good, also like give me ano when it's a no right there's
been plenty of times where I'vebeen in readings and people are
like nope, I have no idea whatyou're talking about.
I'm like you know what.
You know the animal's tellingme yes, or the spirit world's
telling me yes, and I'm gonnagive it to you anyway, and I get
off the phone or I get off thecall or I get off the reading

(58:07):
and I they go home and alsothey're like holy shit, I had no
idea.
I spoke to my mom.
I spoke, you know yeah that'sthe other piece.
Don't feed the medium, theanimal communicator yes do that,
don't feed us.
But um, if you know something'sright, don't say no.
If it's a yes, don't say right.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
You know which is why like so, when you said October,
I was like, well, there, thatthat's a whole month, there's
significant things that havehappened in October.
I don't want to give away, youknow instantly.
This is why October isimportant.
I'm kind of trying to get youto say like, well, can you give
me anything else that you know?
Because, again, there'ssignificant dates in October.

(58:53):
But what is it about October?
So I mean, because I could pullfrom anything and say that, oh
yeah, october I bought a car andthat was very significant yeah,
you got it, you know right, andthat's the other thing.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Is significant for me is a birthday and anniversary,
a month of passing, see.
Not significant for me is isbuying a car, which sounds
terrible and selfish.
I don't mean to sound that way,but I mean something that you
want to either celebrate or thatyou remember because it puts a
mark on your soul.
Right your child's birthday issignificant you know this sounds

(59:34):
terrible but their seventhbirthday party may not be as
significant, you know like youknow.
So it's when I say somethingsignificant.
I don't want it to be that itwas, you know, your third date
with your now wife.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
All right, so that's another question I need to ask
with that.
So when you're picking up onPosey see, I got the name right.
Anyway, when you're picking upon Posey, are you also picking
up on DW?
Are you also picking up on me?
Like, where is the connectionthere?

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
That can absolutely happen.
So I try to have boundaries, Itry to make sure of that.
So if, if you sat let's saythis was a paid meeting and you,
you brought dw with you and dwbrought posy and you sat in to
be supportive I would say to youI just want you to know that
stuff for you might come throughbecause you're in this

(01:00:33):
environment.
But my intention, before comingon and sitting with the spirit
world is like hey, listen, thisis what we're here for.
Please, please, honor what myintention is.
You know, to connect withwhatever animals that they asked
me to connect with.
Connect with whatever animalsthat they asked me to connect

(01:00:54):
with.
But, with that said, I tell mykids that when I'm no longer
here, if they go to an animalcommunicator, you can damn well
bet I'm going to be interruptingthat reading fair, that's fair
yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
So I yeah, I just need to.
I'm sitting there thinking I'mlike, okay, well, just throwing
it out there.
October has significant.
You know things for me as well,you know, and you know it's a
possibility.
Could you at any point pick upon something of mine?

(01:01:25):
Now I will say this the 18thmeans nothing to me that I know
of so october, though, the 18thof October, though, remember
what I said Right, right, right,Another month.
But I'm just saying do you seewhat I mean?
Is there a possibility that inany of those messages you're
picking up from me, him orwhatever, just not just Posey

(01:01:49):
yourself?
Now, Posey is obviously anextension of dw and his wife and
his kid and and even clover, alittle bastard, so she's an
extension of all them.
So is there a possibility inany way that that could also be

(01:02:12):
pushing through as well?

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
So what I tell people , like when I do readings on
lives, before I start I give mywhole intro, all that fun stuff.
I can't see anybody.
It's horrible because thecomments are delayed and you
have to wait for people to say Ican understand this or I can't.
But as I'm doing myintroduction, the spirit world
is getting together and they'relike holy shit, wait a minute.

(01:02:36):
Your name is Chris, my name isChris.
You had a heart attack, I had aheart attack.
You had a Siberian Husky.
I had a Siberian Husky, let'sgo get her.
And what we say is that there'ssuch thing as a postcard where
it's like you might feelsomething, where we that might
be for me.
That's your loved one saying,hey, I know you, I know, you

(01:02:57):
know I'm here, I know you know,so just know I'm here.
And then there's a parallelreading where you have more than
one person and I always givethis.
This is where I get percentages.
OK 95% yeses or more in myevidence, then that could be a

(01:03:17):
parallel reading.
If you're not, if you're 89%,that's a postcard.
Okay, just so you know.
I always say that and I tellpeople do not and don't take
away from the postcards, becauseyou know we need to hear from
our animals that we lost, ourloved ones, that we lost.
You know the answers that wedon't have.

(01:03:39):
It gives us healing.
So I don't take away from thepostcards, but parallel readings
.
I love when that happensbecause it's just like it's not
your basic evidence.
You know it's a cracker jackbox that I'm seeing that two
people take and they're like, ohmy god right we're like oh my
god.
Meanwhile, the spirit world'slike look at these idiots, don't

(01:03:59):
they think that we shared notesbefore we came on, you know?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
so that's really the truth of it so before we segue
into the next dog, is thereanything else about posy that's
really standing out that youfeel like you want to share
they'll?
They'll blow my socks off letme just actually kind of want to
see that happen.

(01:04:23):
I want to see w socks like flyacross the room yeah, that's
kind of what I want now tooanother advantage of zoom is
that you would actually be ableto see that you would be able to
see that I just pulled posy'spicture up again so was there

(01:04:50):
was there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Did poesy like get away or like was poesy like
missing, because she says I waslost, but I was found she, I
mean going back to how she wasoriginally, not not that far no,
no, I'm sorry, I don't mean tosay I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
No, that's because I want to get it right that's not.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
That's not my feeling .
My feeling is like either shedarted out of the house, it was
like, and then you guys got her,but there's something about
like she, she I heard this iswhat I heard I was lost but I
was found.
So it was like that fear oflike her getting out or getting
away but then getting her back.
So it wasn't like she wasmissing for days or missing for

(01:05:39):
hours, but it was like a quickthing that she's showing me with
like this fear is it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
are you sure it's her ?
No, because we just opened up ahole.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
We just opened up pandora's box with right,
because that did.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Uh, clover had that issue for a while where you
couldn't open a door without heruh bolting out, and most of the
time you know what happens andyou run right after her.
There was one time, however, itwas late at night and it
actually did take us a while tofind her.
So not like hours.

(01:06:20):
We weren't searching theneighborhood or anything like
that, but that did happen withClover Posey.
Quite the opposite in, in fact,because there was actually one
time the gate was left open andshe just stood by the doorway
and said I'm not supposed toleave and she was like clover is
the bad one.

(01:06:40):
I'm fine, you know were they?

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
were they?
How do I say this?
Were they living in the samehome at any time together before
?
Before, before we adopted them,you mean posy and clover,
because clover was the one whoflew out clover was the one who
flew out yeah and so the deal is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
So I'll tell you this part of it.
The deal was we got posy first,um, and she was.
She was our only dog for only ashort while when, until we got
clover, and so they've been.
They've been siblings more orless, uh, for most of their

(01:07:26):
lives, because they were both ofthem were they do live in the
same home, so they have livedtogether that.
Well, we have both of them, sothey're living okay.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
So that's a yes, then you said no.
I was like what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
no I thought you meant.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
I thought you meant beforehand no, no, no, I meant
now, okay, yes, I said thatthose are our dogs, so they're
living together now.
Yeah, so I didn't know if youwere going to bring me a picture
of clover or if you're going tophysically bring clover, and I
haven't oh no, clovers um.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Clover is the nuts one, so I don't know if I'll go
get her um okay, so this is whyI so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Let me just explain, because we talked earlier.
You said oh, I have another dog, I'm gonna bring in clover.
I said you have a picture ofclover.
Remember me saying that to youin the beginning.
Oh, yeah, it happened to cloverat all, so I didn't know that
they were living together now inthe same home so actually, yeah
, so the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
So we have posy and clover, but it's actually a
different dog that I'm going tobe talking about in just a
second okay, so and actually so,so, let me okay go ahead only
because I saw this, I got outand then I got back, kind of
thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
So it could be Posey sharing what she sees Because
they live in the same home.
So that's the only reason why Iasked that question.
I just want to explain.
That's why I asked, because itwas a really weird feeling Like
I felt like I was there or I wasaround or I know this.
That's why I asked if they everlived together in the same home
.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yes, I know this.
That's why I asked if they everlived together in the same home
.
Yes, so they're.
They're.
Posey and Clover are our twodogs, so yes, they do live
together Okay.
So before we move on to pumpkin, different dog.
So and you'll see why I'm goingto ask this question, so we've
been talking about Posey andClover, who are in the other

(01:09:10):
room right now.
How are things different from aliving dog as opposed to a dog
that's passed on?

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
So it depends on the person who's sitting in front of
me and this is why, and itdepends on the personality of
the animal that's there.
So Posey, coming in, was verycalm and very just kind of
chilled.
If you have an individual thathas their pet and the pet
doesn't want to be held on tothem like you don't have to, but

(01:09:40):
they're insisting on it, thatcreates friction so that with a
live animal might createsomething that makes it a little
bit difficult for them to trustin me, just because of the
environment that they're in.
When we have an animal that'spast, sometimes people's
emotions can get in the space ofconnecting with that animal

(01:10:01):
that's past okay you know.
So that's the other piece of it,but is there really a
difference?
You know, if you ask me what isknow if you ask me what is it
like to meet somebodypsychically and what is it like
to meet somebody mediumistically, I would give you the same
answer.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Okay, okay, so let me see.
If so, can you see the?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
picture there, I can.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Okay, okay, um, I'm pretty sure you can guess which
one is pumpkin um, but yeah, so,and I'll, I'll give you a just
a little context, but not toomuch, because, again, I want to
see what you can tell us do me afavor.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Can you enlarge just pumpkin a little bit, or no?
Um, I just want to make surethat I don't tap into the two
others.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
There we go.
This might work OK.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Is that?
There we go?
Yeah, I just don't want to tapinto people that I'm not
supposed to tap into.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Ok, so you want to let me know?
So, yes, so this is PumpkinPumpkin was.
Yes, so this is Pumpkin Pumpkinwas.
She's a Papillon Spaniel I'mjust giving a little for those
who, because we're audio only,and so she passed away.

(01:11:29):
Gosh, it was a while ago now,so, and actually I'm just going
to leave it at that because Idon't want to say too much.
But yeah, so that's pumpkin.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Okay, oh, can you bring that picture back?

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
up.
Oh, you want it back.
I'm sorry, just so I can bringit to you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
I'll take a picture of pumpkin.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
No, that's okay.
Oops, there we go, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Okay, I got pumpkin now Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
So so I don't confuse people again, posey and Clover
are are the what our listenerswould know as the hellhounds.
Uh, pumpkin was the, uh, thefamily dog before them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
So, uh, so actually, john has never um met pumpkin
and actually wait, now that Ithink about it, you've only met
Clover that one time from theprevious episode and you haven't
met Posey you keep your familyand your pets away from me for

(01:12:40):
some reason I don't know Well,because I don't want them
tainted by.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
I get it yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
The whole Serene family go up in flames.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
There's a reason why you can't reproduce anymore.
So anyway, um, because I wassick, I'm just, I'm just trying
to to fill a little bit of timefor natalie to to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
I'm like listening.
I'm fine not to laugh throwingher off and and so, and.
So you know I don't.
I just want to explain it thisway.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
I don't.
I felt tremendous grief when Itapped into pumpkin and when I
felt this.
I felt like either this was thefirst loss that I've
experienced or this this waslike the first loss.
So this feels to me like theloss of pumpkin was eye opening
or eye awakening to me.
So that's the way I feel, likeit was something different about

(01:13:37):
her loss and I said her ispumpkin to her yes okay, I just
like to make sure of that.
Like, sometimes it's out andthen I just don't want to
misgender anybody, um, and Ijust feel I don't know.
I keep getting this, and when Iget this I feel like it was
either sudden and unexpected.
There's something about thetransition that was quick that

(01:14:00):
she gives me so this is anotherum.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
You're close, but I'm not trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
I don't want to give you, give you too much because,
yes, I don't know, that's all,and I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
So I'll say, uh, maybe.
So I'm not giving you.
Okay, you are on the righttrack.
Yes, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
This is definitely not a no okay because okay, so
this is what I just want, to goa little bit more because and
I'm sorry for explaining it thisway, but this is- the way.
I feel, or I see it in thepictures here.
So that's why I keep lookingdown.
I feel my breathing is heavyand my throat is closing Please
don't take this literally so Ifeel like either I got ill or

(01:14:44):
something happened that had tochange.
So I feel like this ishappening quickly and a decision
has to be made for me.
That's the way I'm sensing this.
It's like you know, like andI'm sorry for this, I don't mean
to give if this was a regularreading, we could say this way.
You know, like I wouldn't, Iwould be a little bit more
gentle in the meaning of thefeeling of it.
But then, when I feel thetransition has happened, I feel

(01:15:06):
the sense of relief.
So I feel like pumpkin washiding ailments or hiding pain
that she was having and thentook a turn for the worse.
Sorry for saying it that way.
But I just feel like I got badquickly.
So there was like no choice.
And that's what I mean like nochoice.
And then pumpkin makes me feellike no choice because if I gave

(01:15:29):
a choice choice they would havedone anything, because there
was no no in the vocabulary.
So this is the way my plan hadto be laid out.
Can you understand this?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
yeah, okay so.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
So it's like we're blessed with having to make a
decision, but we're cursed withhaving to make a decision, but
we're cursed with having to makea decision at the same time,
and I feel like a decision hadto be made and we still sit and
feel like, oh my gosh, but whatif?
Because that's what pumpkin'sgiving me.

(01:16:02):
What if maybe we could havedone this or tried this, or just
change this?
That's the feeling I'm getting.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
So I'm going to do this just to test you.
So are you saying because she'sclose?

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
And I'm trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I'm thinking of a number between one and 87.
No 23, yes, I got it.
Uh, so are you are you able tothen tell me if pumpkin died
naturally, or if she was putdown.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
I feel that she was put down because I feel like I'm
having a discussion withsomeone of making this decision.
That's the way she makes mefeel I'm having a discussion
with someone of making thisdecision.
That's the way she makes mefeel I'm hearing conversation
happening.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
So I might as well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Yeah, you're right.
That's all of what you justsaid is correct.
So can you tell me anythingabout and this I can only say
because we know about it Can youtell me anything about the
illness, or is she telling youanything about the illness that

(01:17:22):
she had?

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
So what I feel I just want to share with the little
pieces that I'm getting shown.
First I feel like I'm here andthen I spread, so I feel like
whatever I had started in onearea of the body and then went
to another.
And then I feel like when I'mand listening, I'm listening to
a doctor explain this, so I feellike I'm being explained, that

(01:17:45):
like this is.
I hate this feeling, this isnot good and there's I'm sorry
to say this like there's nocoming back from this, and then
I feel pressure in my eyes.
So I don't know if it went tothe brain and there was pressure
in the eyes, because I justfeel like my eyes aren't working
the right way either.

(01:18:06):
And I'm listening to this beingshared and talked and I'm
hearing this conversation inthis space and this knowing and
I also feel this is notpumpkin's emotions, but these
emotions around of like that'snot fair.
So I don't know if we were toldthat pumpkin had X amount of

(01:18:28):
time and the time was cut short,but I feel like someone saying
this is not fair and not thatit's ever fair.
Let me just say, but I feel likethose words were stated and it
might even been like this isbullshit, you know, like that
kind of feeling, cause I feellike that sense of also of like
anger.
How can you take this time awayfrom me when you told me I had

(01:18:50):
more than what I had and I'mupset about that.
And then pumpkin comes back tosay I don't want anyone to be
upset because and I'm not justsaying this because I don't have
to say this she's sharing withme very clearly the life that
she had was amazing and that shealso had a fear of not allowing

(01:19:12):
, of you, not allowing anotheranimal to experience this.
And I know you have the two now.
But I feel like the decision toadd more to the family was very
difficult because of the painthat was endured, of the loss of
Pumpkin.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
So I'm to backtrack quite a bit.
Actually, I thought at firstwhen you were, when we were
talking about posy and you weretalking about right, that for
our daughter this was the firstbig loss that she had to deal

(01:19:59):
with was pumpkin.
And you're right, she had, uh,an illness that came on pretty
well.
I shouldn't say came onsuddenly.
We knew about all of a sudden,but may have been going on for a
while.
I don't.
I don't know if I want to gointo the details of what the the

(01:20:19):
illness was.
Suffice to say it was we.
We had that decision ofbasically we.
We just decided that this wasthe, that we weren't going to um
, that basically.
So to give you a little bitmore, we decided that there was,

(01:20:44):
the treatment would have beenexpensive and even if it had
worked, she was old enough thatit wouldn't have prolonged her
life that much and probablywould have worn her down like
crazy.
So again, what you said beforeabout um, a blessing, but not

(01:21:05):
was okay.
We can pick when pumpkin goesabout Blessing, but Not was okay
.
We can pick when Pumpkin goes.
That's kind of a good thing sowe don't have to come home and
find her gone on the couch, butat the same time we're saying
she has to go.
So anyone who's put down a dogthat's basically what you're

(01:21:28):
going through is saying this hasto be done, but at the same
time I don't want to do it, youknow.
So I and I bring that upbecause I wondered if, when you
were talking about grief beforeand Posey filling that grief if
that's what you meant- it couldbe.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
I can't say yes or no because I'm not in that space
right now.
You would know that by feelingit you know what I'm saying.
Like that would be more of atinge for you.
I'm just delivering theevidence that I receive.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Can you tell?
So, can you tell me, becausePumpkin had a definite favorite.
Do you see any of this?
Do you get that at all?

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
I'm gonna be honest, I don't and I don't giggle, but
I don't get a favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
I don't it?
I don't, um, and actually so toto elaborate on that, do is
there anything about cause?
This is one of the things Iwanted to talk to you about.
Anything about, not necessarilyme specifically, but pumpkin

(01:22:48):
was had issues with with me tostart out with when she we first
got her.
Is there anything there aboutwhy?
Or?

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
was she, so she was another.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
I'm going to say the word rescue, but oh, but which,
by the way, when we this rescuewas a very different situation,
and I'd be very interested ifyou knew anything about that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Well, I just feel like there was a male distrust.
So I feel like there was anexperience with a male when she
was younger, so that's where Ifeel that was imprinted with her
.
That's why I asked that, but tobe fair, she wouldn't grow up
and have aed with her.
That's why I asked that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
But to be fair, she wouldn't grow up and have a
problem with DW.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
If.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
If you're going to do one joke, this whole episode
make it a good one.
Why do you the first time youGosh?

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
I was like, wait what it's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
The sad I mean if it takes me that long to figure it
out, and then it's not that goodwhen I come to the realization.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Sometimes it takes a while to land baby.
Sometimes they circle theairport a couple times.
They'll get there, They'll findtheir spot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Yeah, but if you've got broken landing gear, that's
it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
You know what's interesting?
Um did you say papillon?

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
papillon.
Uh, we, we didn't the pumpkin,we didn't do a dna test on, so
we this was just based on whatthey told us.
They said papillon on Spaniel.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
I say Chihuahua, unless she's just giving me that
personality, which it could beof.
That feeling of trust takes mea while and I don't know my size
, so it could be just that I'mseeing that because of

(01:24:52):
personality reasons, but I dofeel like there was a male at
some point when she was youngerthat she did not feel safe with
before you came around.
That's what I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
So would.
So then she wasn't trusting ofmales in general in the
beginning.
Yes, okay, which is right.
Yes, that was uh.
Um, and she never, since Iwasn't the favorite, so my wife

(01:25:37):
was the favorite, oh gosh canyou read it my?
House well you had a goodchance because there were two
people in that or two people inthat picture.
You know what.
It wasn't like men.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Wait, wait.
I'm not going to sit there andsay that I'm a psychic or a
medium in any way.
There's a possibility, there'sa chance, a chance in my small
little pea brain that I'm sayingthis, that I could be sensitive
enough to where I could pick upon things whether or not I

(01:26:15):
acknowledge them or not is oneis a whole nother thing.
But what I'm saying is you know, you said you're like can you
tell which one is the favorite?
Now, I did not know whatsoeverwho it would have been, and
you're right, it was a 50 50shot in that one photo.

(01:26:36):
But there was also, like it's33.3 chance that it could have
been you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Yeah, but we, we were talking about this.
Part of why I brought it up isbecause she had issues with me
from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
So I said you know, like she, you're like which
one's the favorite.
And I immediately went to likeI bet I bet it wasn't daughter.
That was my thought.
That was like it.
I bet it wasn't her, that it itwas.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Well, true, but only for certain reasons, only
because Pumpkin came first.
So we actually got Pumpkin whenit was just me and my wife,
right?
So then it was a 50-50 chance.

(01:27:29):
Actually, not even a 50- 50chance, because me, being male,
she doesn't like males.
She's like well, I'm going tobecome friends with the only
female in the house.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
So I would have to know that you got her before you
had children, even though Iknew that it was the first
experience of your daughter'sloss.
Yeah, that it was the firstexperience of your daughter's
loss.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Yeah, so, and so do you.
Can you tell me anything aboutnow?
She had a foster home.
She, from what I understand,did well there, enjoyed it and
everything.
But can you tell me anythingabout the life pre foster home,
before she was rescued?

(01:28:12):
Just because it's aninteresting story and I want to
see what you can tell me aboutit she is, I always feel the
need to fill the void Becausewe're audio, so no people at

(01:28:33):
home.
You didn't lose connection oranything like that, she is just
deep in thought.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
I don't know.
You just hear me every once ina while going.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
The thing is with you .
It's two seconds of silence,and then that was awesome yeah,
that sounds I don't know why Iheard this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
I'm just going to give you the words that I heard
okay, breakup.
And then I felt likerelationship.
So I don't know if pumpkin wasin a family where there was a
breakup or if there was adivorce or if there was
something like that, but I feltseparation, like two people that
were explosive together.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
That's what I felt that I can't answer um, well
then, because?
Well, because I know there was.
So I don't know if the man thatwe talked about, that she had a

(01:29:35):
problem with before, was inthat household.
I do know there is a woman, butI don't know if there is a man.
I don't know if they broke up.
I don't know what the deal iswith that.
So, in this case, I can't sayif you're right or wrong Very
possible but I can't say ifyou're right or wrong very
possible.
But I can't say if you're rightor wrong, but I, I'm, and I'm

(01:29:56):
not going to say anything morebecause I'm.
She just came from a veryinteresting, uh, uh, predicament
that I was wondering if youknew anything about, um, and,
and I'll, if, if you're notgetting that, I'll, I'll tell
you I keep getting divorce,separation, like, like, like,

(01:30:20):
moving, so I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
I can't, that's, I could only give what I get.
And it's just this weirdfeeling of sounds.
This is sounds terrible.
What I'm going to, I'm gonnasay and I want anybody to think
like but like, pack me up andmove me.
So that's what I keep on saying, like literal, like I see boxes
you're not picking up on me,are you, hey, queen consul?

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
are you getting rid of me?

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
you'd be the last, so it so the deal is.
So pumpkin um, pumpkinsactually was actually famous
because she was on.
Well, actually, no, her picturewasn't on the news, so she was
on the news because the believeit was over 100 dogs in her uh

(01:31:19):
uh, mobile home unit, out in heryard in a trailer park, and the
humane society had to come inand say this is not good living
situations for these dogs.
And some dogs were okay andwere adopted right out.
Pumpkin was one of.
I want to say it was like five,ten dogs that had social issues
and had to go into a fosterhome before they could be, could

(01:31:42):
be adopted out and, um, uh,what was I going to say?
But anyway, so she was in afoster.
So we don't know exactly howold she is, we don't know what
breed she is.
She was 3-4 around there whenwe got her and, yeah, she and

(01:32:11):
the thing is.
I like telling that storybecause she was a good example
of how a person can change, adog can change, a person can
change, but also, at the sametime, don't forget your roots,
don't forget where you you comefrom, because Pumpkin was very

(01:32:31):
different, as the longer she waswith us and was more
comfortable.
But there was always that teenybit of fear that just never
went away.
And even with me she got tolike me, she was much more
comfortable with me towards theend, but there was a long period

(01:32:51):
of time where she would runaway from me just when I came in
the door.
So it was, um it, I, I mean it.
She was, she was fantastic andof course, we miss her.
But the other person you saw inthe picture was my daughter.

(01:33:11):
She was, oh, let me look at theyear, if I can guess when this
would have been.
No, I want to get info.
Oh, what year was this?
So this would have been seven.

(01:33:43):
Oh gosh, seven years ago.
So my daughter would have been,uh, three or four at the time.
So, yeah, and so my daughter.
Since pumpkin came first, mydaughter was born, she grew up
with this dog.

(01:34:04):
So there was this was the first, you know, she knew of a dog,
ever since she was a baby, andwhen she was put down, that was
the first big loss that she everhad to deal with.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
That is a horrible loss.
Like I had a dog from the timeI was born until we were both 17
.
And I'm the one that took herin and let her go.
I think we talked about thislast time we were on here but,
um, that's, that's horrible,it's, it's, it's a bad feeling
and luckily for me, or unluckily, however you want, I had plenty

(01:34:43):
of death in front of that toyou know.
You know what I mean.
So it wasn't the first, butstill devastating.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
So if that was the first for her, that's yeah it's
and I mean I'll uh, I don't knowhow I.
I said I I didn't want to giveaway too much.
But the one other thing I'llsay is she was very, um,
tolerant of a baby, learning howto be with dogs, you know.

(01:35:16):
So she, she thinks it's a giantfluffy toy so she wants to grab
it.
We were lucky that if we hadposy or clover very different
story, um, they might be deadright now, if you know we had
would have murdered someonebecause that would have not been
good.
Um, but pumpkin, my daughterwould grab her face and pumpkin

(01:35:44):
would just like put up with it.
And so you know, we could tellher no, don't do that.
But she was a good dog to havefor learning.
This is how you treat dogs.
You know, this is what we dowith dogs.
No, don't do that, pet her here, stuff like that.
So we were very lucky in inthat regard with with pumpkin

(01:36:07):
that's good, so it'sunconditional love.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Yeah, the loss is always.
I find with animals losses isharder because with people we
have some sort of conflict atsome point in our life.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
So yeah, it's gonna I think, that's true for the most
part.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
I mean, you know, yeah, I can't remember having an
argument with a dog or my dogtelling me to go fuck myself or
some shit like that.
You know, like they're probablythinking it, but it's never
happened, so I know it has withfriends and family.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
When a dog barks.
That's what they're reallysaying.
You just can't All right.
So any other things before wewrap up, or John, since I'm
leading this now, I guess.
John, I'll let you talk if youwant to.
John, is there anything elseyou want to?

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
I have a ton of questions, but I don't know how
we're whatever, Because we'vebeen talking about dogs and
that's fine.
I mean, that's part of thewhole thing DW wanted you back
on so you could read.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Posey, if lightning could strike twice.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
So this was all a vanity project for D-dubs today.
That's what this was all avanity project for D-dubs today.
That's what this was.
But no, I have questions.
Obviously, you are a psychicand medium, and what's easier

(01:37:46):
for you Reading people orreading animals?

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
I.
What's easier for me are thepeople, that the living, that
participate openly meaning, comein.
So it's not the dead, it's notthe animals, it's the living
humans that ruin readings okay,that ruined.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Yeah, I can see that, yeah, yeah you know, and
sometimes it's not intentional.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
I want to say that also.
Like sometimes people come inand the grief is they're so
grief stricken, they're just notready they're grasping the
straws too, though yeah to behonest and I'll be honest also
during a reading, if I havesomeone who's like yes, yes, oh
my god, yes, I will throw in apiece of bullshit in there that
I know the spirit world or theanimal did not give me.

(01:38:38):
Because if they give me a yesand I know that, while they
think that what they're doing isthe right thing, I'm not
connecting the right way.
They're not getting what theydeserve or what they paid for.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
That's not right so what do you do at that point?
Do you stop?

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
yeah, I'll say listen , you know, um, I hope that this
is okay, but I just don't thinkit's the right time, you know.
And and I'll say listen, youknow, I hope that this is okay,
but I just don't think it's theright time, you know, and I'll
ask them to come back at anothertime.
You know, no, no, no, no, no,no.
And I'm like wait, let's justsee.
You know that kind of thing andthe same thing also if I get
three no's in a row.
I'm very honest with people.
You know what.
I might not be the person foryou, so let me see if I can get

(01:39:14):
evidence and if I don't refundyou right away.
And it's happened four times inthe 10 years that I've been
doing this, where I've givenpeople refunds because I just
wasn't their person and they'reso grateful for that.
And I have people that I trustthat I will recommend reach out
to X, Y and Z, because they'regood people reach out to x, y

(01:39:43):
and z because they're goodpeople.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
So is do you need time if someone has passed?
Do you or a pet?
I should say um, if someone haspassed, is it, is there a
chance?
A time that's too soon, like,do you need to give it time
before you can go, before peoplecome to you?
If it, like happened last week,they're so excited to hear
something, to get answers, thatmaybe they're too too willing to

(01:40:07):
believe it or to believe thatyou know, everything is right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Yeah, so for the people, I open my calendar
monthly and people are like, whydo you only open it monthly and
not like for the year?
And there's a reason why.
I find that when people let'ssay, someone lost someone last
week, they'll try to get anappointment with me and they
can't my calendars fill and theyhave to wait until the next

(01:40:36):
month.
I do that for a couple ofreasons.
One is I tell the spirit world,please open the calendar for
that person when the time isright.
There's been times where peoplehave gotten a meeting with me
the next day.
I'm like how the hell did thathappen?
You know, and they even said tome how the hell did that happen
.
And I have people who've beenon my waiting list for over a

(01:40:56):
year, you know.
So that that's that's kind oflike a control thing and
agreement that I have with thespirit world.
Um, I also have and this is onpurpose, and people who are
listening are like, wow, that'sfucked up um, I have an
emergency reading fee.
You want a reading with me?
It's an emergency.
It's like I think it's like$500 for 30 minutes.

(01:41:18):
Ask me how many timessomebody's booked that with me.
I'm guessing Zero.
You know why you should neverneed an emergency reading.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
I suppose what would be the urgency.
If the person has alreadypassed, then there's no sense in
doing it right away.
You might as well wait.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
So I priced it so high that when people ask me do
you have an emergency readingfee, I say absolutely.
And you know what I get back.
That's ridiculous and I go, Iagree.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
I think you should wait until you're ready.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
I mean we should do that.
Dw Emergency podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
We don't get anything for our regular podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
All of a sudden we're charging our premium.
What the heck?
Whatever?
Yeah, we get things.
We get a lot of things.
Okay, so DW kind of hijackedthat question.
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
It's my show, did you hear?

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
Now I don't want to get too deep into this, just a
simple yes, I'm going to reversethis on you.
I'm going to do this to thepsychic medium and have fun with
it.
So, uh, just throughout thecourse of this, you had the dogs
and everything.
Did you pick up on me and or dwat all?
No okay, all right, just justthought I'd ask, not asking you

(01:42:58):
to just saying I won't do that,I won't just don't ask yeah um
now, how so can you do that?
meaning like, not can you do itright now?
But like, say, I always askthis it's always the walmart
trope, right?
So if you're're in Walmart andyou see somebody who's a creepy

(01:43:19):
douchebag or whatever, can youpick up on them and see what
they're thinking?
Like if he's thinking, oh mama,and then you have to get all
New York attitude with him, orlike, does I mean, can you pick
up on that stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
So I have boundaries.
So if I don't, so if you sat ina reading with me, I would have
like oh, you know, welcome tothe reading.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know, are you okay withknowing everything I receive?
If I don't, that's where thespirit world or my guides, or
whatever, know oh, she's working, otherwise there is.
No, I don't't, I don't want toknow, unless it's like a life or

(01:44:00):
death situation, that that theywant me to interfere with,
which I've never had, and notputting it out there to have it.
I don't want to like, there'sboundaries, you have to have
boundaries all right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
So, with that being said, and I want to go back to
the New York attitude thing,have you ever had to go all New
Yorker on somebody who's been inyour, in your presence, meaning
like getting a reading orwhatever else, and just you're
saying, you're shaking your head, yes so I'm shaking my head.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
And why?

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
Why?
Because, again, the livingdon't have boundaries and they
don't understand certain things.
For instance, I'll read for youat any time you want.
Are you okay with receiving areading?
Yes, I am.
Don't call me and ask me ifyour new neighbor is a racist.

(01:44:56):
Don't call me and ask me ifyour significant other is is
cheating on you.
The answer is yes, If you'reasking that question, first of
all, you know, but you know kindof savage, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
Jesus, oh, that's what?
Ah, that's a all right Businessidea.
That's what I should do $500.
Ask me if your partner'scheating?
Yeah, they are, that'll be $500.
Thank you, have a nice day.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
It's actually really good.

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
Yeah, I mean I'd, I'm curious to know why, if you
were to ask that, why you wouldsay yes, why?

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Oh it's because if you suspect they are, they
probably are Right, isn't thatit?

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
And the thing is that , like I'm not going to tap into
someone else to see whatthey're doing, so you're coming
to me, you're asking thatquestion because you know I'm
going to, you know they are likeyou said, but the next question
that it's going to be is goingto be who is it?
What are they doing?
What are they seeing each other?

(01:46:00):
Where is it at?

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
and that's just completely unethical well, yeah,
not, you can become anaccomplice, because if they're
asking where they are and thingslike that, it's just going to
go down and yeah in new york,that's especially in new york.
Yes, yeah, um, especially inNew York.
Especially in New York, yes,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
And you're we're not going to go too.
There's minority report rightthere.
You caused a murder because youfound out.
Yeah, exactly so.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
I don't want to go too geographic here, but are you
?
You're in the city, correct?

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
No, I'm right outside 30 minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Okay, all right, all right, I was just.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
I was born in the bronx.
From the bronx I taught in thebronx, so nice yeah, right,
right there very, very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Um, is that?
No, that's, that's brooklyn.
I was gonna say tribeca, that's, that's brooklyn.
Right, that's not the Bronx.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
No, that's not the Bronx.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Yeah, so you're straight New York.
That's pretty freaking badass.
I like that.
And then another follow-upquestion to, I guess, the last
one.
So you said if a person waslike here's my significant other

(01:47:19):
cheating on whatever blah blah,have you ever been in a
relationship where you knew thator you picked up on something
that your significant other wasdoing, being that you're a
medium or a psychic at thispoint, have you picked up on it
and had to nix the oldrelationship?

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
No, and it sucked.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Oh, wow, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
I had no idea, and it was right in front of my face
that there was stuff going onand I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Well, I mean, when you're too close, it's like what
do you say?
You can't see the forest fromthe trees.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
It still pissed me off.
Right Like here I am, you know,like with that.
You know that pisses me off.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
And then again you got your chance to go all New
York on them.
So I mean that's.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Trust me.
I didn't pack somebody's bag sofast like that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
I legitimately, I you know.
Um, that's something that'sjust I'm curious about, right,
because you know people whenthey go through those struggles
I went through them before itsucks, it's horrible.
Um, nothing can make you feelpersonally as as I'm saying it
as a person who's gone throughit.

(01:48:41):
Nothing can make you feel morelike you are not wanted more
than that that's the way, if youknow what I mean.
Like you might as well just puta dump, uh garbage bag on me and
put me in the by the curb,that's you know.
But I'm not gonna go too farinto into that stuff.
But I was just curious to knowif, being a psychic, you could

(01:49:06):
pick up on any of that stuff,like this curiosity thing, I
guess in a way I could tell youtragic wise, that's really was.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
It has been extremely and I'm working with the spirit
world now.
I started doing this because mystudent, one of my students I'm
also a high school teacher oneof my students was murdered oh
shit right before she wasmurdered.
She was supposed to see me and Itold her give me two more weeks
and I'll be done.
I could spend time with you.
I missed seeing her because Iasked her for two more weeks.
A couple'll be done.
I could spend time with you.
I missed seeing her because Iasked her for two more weeks.

(01:49:38):
A couple of years later, one ofmy students takes his life.
Reached out to me beforehand.
I was like, hey, listen, I gotoff next week we could meet up.
I lost him.
Last year one of my students waskilled in a car accident.
They checked the video in thehallway the Friday before the
weekend and I had come down thestairs and went up the hallway

(01:50:02):
and she came right around thecorner and just missed me and
she hugged another teacher thatshe saw in the hallway because
that's what we do with thesehigh schoolers.
And I said you know like, thisis bullshit.
You know like, why don't I getthat goodbye?
Why don't I get that?
And then I realized I alwaysshared with the spirit world.
If I have someone in front ofme that's going to die, I don't

(01:50:24):
want to know.
I respected my boundaries well,that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
I mean, it's not crazy.
No, I'm not saying that, I'mjust saying like, wow, if that
is, that's legit, you could dothat with your significant other
and things like that.
And you know, you never know.
See me, I feel I would be.
I hate to say this, I would bethe more selfish part of that.

(01:50:54):
I want to know everything.
Anything that's in front of me.
I want to know everything.
Anything that's in front of me,I want to know it.
And it's more anxiety, I think,than anything else, because if
somebody has anxiety, they'rescared of what's coming next,
right.
So wouldn't you think ifsomebody who has like psychic
abilities and it's anxious right, that they're going to be like

(01:51:17):
hell, yeah, this is good, I knowthis.
I'm not supposed to.
I turned left up here, notright.
If I turn right, I'm fuckedright, like so I don't know.
I just feel it would be ablessing for me in a way someone
who has anxiety, though correctme if I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Do you like scary movies like?

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
I love scary movies of course you do, because that
feeling of the anxiousness, ofnot knowing what's going to
happen next in the scene, isfamiliar to you Because you have
anxiety.
So if you know what to expect,you're not going to understand
the anxiety anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
I don't like this, I'm just wow, that I mean, I
guess that makes sense right,like and for me, because the
opposite is true, because Idon't like scary movies and I
re-watch movies all the timebecause I know what's gonna
happen.
Yep because it's not scary,because it's like well, I know
what happens in the scene.
I know how this movie endsbecause I've already seen it

(01:52:28):
isn't that crazy, that's justyeah, wow, that's, that's badass
see there there's that phraseagain.
I told.
Told you what.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
You should put that on a t-shirt, or that's awesome.
Wow, that's awesome.
Alright, dw, you're running.
I have said what I will say.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
We should wrap it up, we should.
I've got my this or that, andsince it's been so long Wait
hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
What you have to ask her.
I mean, obviously she's runningthe business here, pal.
We need to.
People need to know where to goto find she does things, and
she just did a free one for you.
Pump her damn stuff up, let'sgo.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
This is why I don't lead the shows ever.
I don't like when you lead theshows and you lead the imaginary
vacations where I don't evenget to freaking eat.
All right, natalie, telleveryone where they can find you
.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
My handle is for everything For Facebook,
Instagram, TikTok is atNatalieLuciaMedium and my
website's atNatalieLuciaMediumcom.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
And if you want to be the first person ever to pay
$500 for an emergency rating,she has an opening next Thursday
.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
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Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
I was going to say you'll get it for the discounted
price of 499, 499, 99.499.99.
All right, there's a 2%processing fee, so it ends up
being more Okay Now that we've.
Is there anything else?
John, I don't know.
You're the one leading the show.
I don't know if I am anymore.
All right, natalie.
I think it's about time we.

(01:54:34):
I'm looking at an empty can ofhard cider.
It's time to do this or that.
So if we've repeated any fromlast episode I can't remember I
doubt that you would anyway sosome of these may be repeats,
but I actually know I don'tthink so because I think most
likely John would have let itlast time.

(01:54:56):
So we're going to be good,alright okay, I don't think so,
because I think most likely Johnwould have let it last time.
Yep, so we're going to be good.
All right, okay, apples,oranges.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
Oranges.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Oh, and I heard the little New York accent on
oranges.
So clue or monopoly.
Clue or Monopoly Clue, alright.
Beach or pool Beach, alright.
If you were ghost hunting,would you want to go with the

(01:55:32):
Ghostbusters or Scooby-Doo andthe Gang?

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
Scooby-Doo.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
And the Gang.
Yeah, there's a dog there.
You can, yeah, so all right.
Okay, you've perfected yourtime machine.
Do you want to go back to 1825or forward to 2225?

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
1825.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Okay, you want to see the picture.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
Coming from a teacher too, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
She wants history.
Yep, okay, does the toiletpaper go over or under?

Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
If it goes on the holder in my house, that's a
mean poop.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Best answer.
All right, elephant-sizedsquirrel or squirrel-sized
elephant.

Speaker 3 (01:56:21):
Oh, that's a hard one .
I think I'm going to sayelephant-sized squirrel.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
Okay, mozart or Led Zeppelin.

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
Mozart.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Mozart Vinyl records or streaming music vinyl all
right, yeah, hiss and pop okay,makes so.
Actually a couple from mydaughter, because I said, hey,
hey, we're doing this or that,do you have any you want to

(01:56:58):
contribute?
So here's her two dogs or cats.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
Oh, I can't choose, I can't choose.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Just say just say dogs, and we'll move on.
So that's the right answer.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
Well, if I go by numbers, in my house's gonna be
cats I'm assuming cats because Ihave six, oh my gosh wow, who?

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
uh, we'll move on all right.
So here's her other one, blacklab, or golden.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
Golden Lab.

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
So it's going to be Black Lab, because Golden
Retrievers they're a little toodopey.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
I love them, but Black Labs are easier to train.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
All right, so our final one.

Speaker 3 (01:58:01):
John Olson or Jeffrey Dahmer Are we having lunch
together.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
She needs to ask to clarify, so that's not a good
sign.

Speaker 3 (01:58:11):
John, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
If we had said lunch I, I mean she probably would
have gone.

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Jeffrey knows how to barbecue he knows how to set a
meal right, exactly, but you didwin that one, so you're good
does this taste like foot?

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
why does this taste like foot?
This is foot.
What?
Alright, john, I'll give youthe.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
This is foot, what?
Alright, john, I'll give youthe, or actually, oh, do you
want?
Do you want me to?

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
end it?
No, because I'm the one thathas to push the button.
So I mean, why would you?
Oh yeah, only you can screwthat up.
So that's right.
That's my time, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
It's my time, alright , everyone let's see if you can
get this right the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
First of all, natalie , uh, I'm gonna go backwards
here.
Uh, first of all, thank you forchoosing me over.
Jeffrey dahmer reallyappreciate that.
Um, just barely, though, justbarely, but that's still still
pretty cool.
Um, thank you for giving usyour time and reading DW's mutts

(01:59:24):
, which sounds weird to say, butanyway, that's pretty badass
and always being a really coolsport.
I enjoy chatting with you whenI can sport.
I enjoy, uh, chatting with youwhen I can.
Um, you know, but, uh, you know, like I said, this was more of

(01:59:44):
a vanity piece for dw and weneeded to uh to get this get
this done, so we can, so hecould talk about you for the
next 34 episodes and we canmaybe get you on after our 100th
or something.
I don't know.
You'll come back.
You'll come back a third time.
We'll just do humans rightthat'll be fun which again

(02:00:09):
sounds weird.
But you can figure out.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
If you can figure out what's messed up about john,
then yes, then.
I'll be convinced.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
I will tell you what.
This is an open challenge andyou have several weeks to figure
this out.
If you can figure out what thehell is wrong with me, I will
pay for an emergency session.

Speaker 3 (02:00:34):
I'm just scared that Jeffrey Dahmer would show up.
I'm just saying he comes in,would show up.

Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
I was just saying, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
I heard that I wasn't the favorite.
What the heck?

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
Years of therapy, and that's a bad Jeffrey Dahmer
impression, by the way, what?

Speaker 2 (02:00:50):
I don't know why I did that People can't see it but
my arms got involved andsuddenly I was King Kong from
the 30swhacker luke or whateverlike that's a wwf reference for
anybody who got it all right.

Speaker 1 (02:01:05):
It doesn't matter.
All right, just want to saythank you for coming back on we.
We had some fun.

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
I like this thank you for having me seriously you're
very welcome.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
All right, well, dw anything else no, I think you
better see if you can end itcorrectly all right, we can try,
all right.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
well, you know what that means.
That means that you guys havebeen amazing, we have been
scolarius and we are out Later,later.

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