Ep. 80 Robert the Doll: America's Most Malevolent Toy

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The sailor-suited boy with the penetrating stare sits motionless in his glass case at Key West's East Martello Museum, yet visitors whisper their requests before snapping photos. They've heard the stories—what happens when you disrespect Robert the Doll.

In this spine-tingling episode, John welcomes comedian Zach Scharf to explore America's most notorious haunted doll. Together, they delve into Robert's century-long history of terror that began in 1904 when young Gene Otto received the German-made Steiff doll from his grandfather. What started with furniture mysteriously overturned and childish claims that "Robert did it" evolved into something far more sinister as neighbors reported seeing the doll moving independently, watching from windows, and mocking passersby.

The haunting intensified after Gene's death when new owners discovered their daughter waking screaming in the night, claiming Robert was stalking her bedroom. We examine the chilling theory that a mistreated servant may have cursed the doll with voodoo as revenge against the wealthy Otto family, explaining Robert's apparent ability to inflict misfortune on those who disrespect him.

Most unsettling are the contemporary accounts from museum visitors whose cameras mysteriously malfunction when attempting unauthorized photos, only to work perfectly again once they leave Robert's presence. Some report serious illnesses, accidents, and other misfortunes following their encounters—including a famous YouTuber who developed cancer after filming Robert without permission.

Whether you're a paranormal enthusiast or skeptic, Robert's story raises fascinating questions about object attachment, the power of belief, and the thin veil between our world and whatever might lie beyond. Just remember—if you ever visit him yourself, always ask permission first.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Thanks for watching what's going on.

(00:31):
This is scolarius.
I am john olsen, and with me,as always is no, not as always,
because he's not here today, butI have a really, really cool
guest.
Oh, ghost zach, sharp zach, howare you doing today?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm doing great.
How are you doing, john?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
uh, I, I miss my, my, my dubs.
I miss my dubs.
Buddy, I don't know I, I, Iyou're, you're, you're good, but
but he's, he's the dubs, youknow, and I, it's weird, I, I
don't even know what disabledwalrus uh, um, dancing will

(01:21):
borrow.
I, I don't, I got, I gotnothing.
And you would be like yeah, thedelightful wingman delightful
wingman you know you being isweird.
With the letters as you're,you'd be like zoological shit
scooper.
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I have no idea what it's actually what they used to
call me in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Is it really?
I'm really good, I'm reallygood at that.
See, they weren't justnicknames for the doves, so do
your thing, oh Right, open.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I got a Smazy Strawberry Lemonade,
non-alcoholic, thc, seltzer,nice.
I have never had this before.
Do you know what was?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
it?
Who's the brewer?
Who makes it the?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
brewer Luplin Brewing In.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Minnesota.
I'm assuming.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, in Big Lake, minnesota.
I guess I never did research onthis.
I got this actually as a giftfrom my brother.
This is how he announced thathe was having a kid, is giving
me THC drinks.
He had a note on it.
I can't remember what it said,but yeah, I'm going to be an

(02:42):
uncle, so that's going to becool.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Nice, very cool.
Yeah, all right, you ready.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Let's get into it.
What do you got here?
Diet?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Coke, diet, coke.
Yeah, all right, but it's notlike I haven't partaked in said
THC.
So we get to play my favoritegame on Scalarius, guess when it
kicks in.
Yes, all right, let me take aswig of this baby.
And then we got some chattingto do.

(03:10):
All right, yeah.
So anybody knows?
I don't know If you're tuningin to hear DW.
I'm sorry for many reasons.
Number one is that you'retuning in to hear DW.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
If you miss DW.
I can kind of do somewhat of animpression of him.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I don't know, not as good as me, I'm all creepers.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well, here's the thing, John.
I really don't like yourimpression of me and I just
don't think you can do itcorrectly, Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
It's like he's not even gone All right, that's cool
it works.
That's all I got.
All right.
So you know things arehappening and people are
probably wondering why DW isn'there.
But if you've been payingattention, you know that he's
taking a little bit of a breakbecause he's got personal life

(04:13):
and things and whatnot and hedeserves to do that.
On the flip side of that, if Itake a break, we're going to
have to do reruns or something,because I'm the one that directs
the ship.
So, um, so, yeah, that's,that's, that's where he's at,
and uh, d dubs my buds creepers.

(04:34):
Uh, hope you uh come back soon.
Uh, we loved you, buddy and uh,yeah, we do, we do miss you.
But, yeah, and, all right, wemight as well get into this.
You might like this a littlebit.
I got my first real hate mailthis week, yeah, yeah.

(04:57):
And you might ask yourself howdo I know it's hate mail?
Well, it was signed, fuck you.
So I, you know, I don't know.
I wish I could say that I amsurprised, but I'm not, not

(05:19):
really.
But at the same time, I alsowish I could say that it bothers
me because it don't, and Iapologize to the universe out
there because I know like worsethings could happen and I don't
want to invite anything likethat.
But let's just say this, let'sjust say this.

(05:48):
They may have been offended andthat's fine.
I don't mean to offend anybody,but I don't care if I do.
And that is on a shirt that Ihave that you could get at
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(06:09):
scolariaspod.
And along with a whole lot ofother ones, one of my favorite
shirts is the Old Criper shirt.
That one's pretty good.
That's.
Dw's favorite saying is the OldCripers.
You can get that atcrowdmadecom.
Uh, also, I have no idea whojohn olsen is, which is a
running gag throughout all ofscolarius, well, at least the

(06:33):
last three or four months, and,um, that one, that one seemed
people like that one.
I'm not sure why, but my queenconsort got herself I have no
idea who John Olsen is a sweater, which is weird to me because
she definitely knows who I am.

(06:54):
But maybe she's trying to tellpeople otherwise.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I have no idea, I myself have gotten one of those
those it's very nice, verycomfortable yeah, I know exactly
who you are exactly we love itit's just, it's fun to act like
you don't.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And I get that, yeah, and you know other things you
could get at crowdmadecom 4slash collections, 4 slash
scolariaspod is, I don't know,our coasters.
Why have coasters when you canhave coasters?
Right, it's a coaster with ourlogo on it and it's badass.

(07:38):
Everything's cheap, man.
It's like under $30.
It goes from $10 to $ to 30.
I don't know you got hats wehave, oh, dog leashes, dog
collars, pet bowls.
You know things like.
You can use the leash and thecollar on other things if you

(07:58):
wanted to.
You know the spice up the uh,spice up the old sex life, you
know, and the and take it to thebedroom, use that leash, use
that collar, you know, or shecould use it on you.
It's cool.
Whatever works, do that.
But just remember, get all thatstuff at crowdmatecom forward

(08:20):
slash collections, forward slashscolariaspod.
Also, this is really weirddoing this without DW, but I
have to do it anyway.
You know, I'll tell you why.
I'm just going to do my halfand then, zach, since you're the

(08:42):
co-ghost today, you do what.
You do your half of this andtell people where they can find
you.
But you know they can find meon Facebook at John Olsen
Comedian 2.0.
You can also find me and DWtogether.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
But not as a couple.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
No, we're not a couple On the Scolarius page
Also on Facebook, not a coupleOn the Scolarius page also on
Facebook.
I do have a TikTok, scolarius8.
Don't understand that.
But whatever, instagram alsoScolarius.
And if you want to, if you wantto and I know recent studies

(09:23):
have shown that people do wantto If you want to send me hate
mail, do that at scolariaspod atgmailcom, or if you want to be
a guest on our show, do that.
You can send it there.
It would be really cool.
If you're into it.
Here we are.
This is what I want to do.
I'm going to make some groundrules for guests of our show.
I would like entertainers likecomedians, things like that.

(09:45):
Authors Okay.
Also, people in the paranormalfield Okay, not people.
You know paranormal researchers, paranormal investigators, you
know people that are, like youknow, in paranormal
entertainment, you know thingslike that.
Come on in, that's cool.
I want to talk to you and wecan share our conversation with

(10:13):
the world.
Yeah, just email me atsclaryspod at gmailcom, or if
you want to only if you want to,you can go back and listen to
every single episode that wehave at sclarispotbuzzsproutcom.
Now, zach, where can you be?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
found.
Well, you can find me in many,many places, mainly Olmstead
County, downtown.
You know handcuffs, never mind.
You can find me on Instagram atZach Schar s-c-h-a-r-f.
Um.
You can find me at facebook, uh, zach sharp comedy.

(10:52):
Uh, I'm also on tiktok fatzachum, and I don't have any merch.
But if you want to give memoney, my venmo is z sharp 507
so me money.
My venmo is z sharp 507, so Ishould try that.
How come I haven't done thatbefore?
Venmo me money, just give memoney, yeah it's at only two,

(11:12):
three, three, three.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Just I mean, and only ole two, three, three, three.
Uh, yeah, but I don't know whyI haven't done that yet.
But hit me up, man, just sendme.
Listen, I like coffee, I liketo drink coffee a lot.
So if you want to buy me acoffee, they actually have an
app called Buy Me Coffee.
Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
No.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
It's weird.
I don't know what it is, butpeople just buy.
People.
Buy me a coffee, send me money.
Send Zach money, just send usmoney.
We me coffee send.
Send me money.
Send zach money, just send usmoney.
We need it, yeah we're, we docomedy, we need it's so very,
very yeah, yeah, it's not a verylucrative, uh, business, uh at

(11:56):
all.
No, all right, well, you know,we we came on here to do some do
some chatting about someparanormal stuff.
First of all, I want to talk toyou for just a couple minutes
before we get into things.
I feel that people need to knowwhat brought you to scolarius,

(12:23):
right, because a lot of peoplemight not know this, like unless
they listen to are under thetable, which I sincerely doubt
they did but unless they listento under the table, they're not
going to understand.
Right, like, where you, youknow, came into this from.
So, zach, you're, you're a fanof our show, right, you like it.
What?

(12:43):
What brought you to sclarious?
And then, that's, that's thefirst question.
And, like, how freakingthrilled are you to be sitting
in the dub spot today?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
um, well, I am to start off.
I am so um honored to be ableto take the dub spot today.
He said the last episodeuploaded.
He said that I have to be thefunny.
That's a very, very hard job tofill, so there's a lot of

(13:16):
pressure put on me, but anyway.
So how I met was we had thatshow in Rochester at the Legion.
It was the first time we metand you mentioned that you had a
show which I butchered the nameof.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
How hard is it Scary and hilarious.
It's hilarious, I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, it was on me.
I'm not good with words orremembering things.
That's okay.
I'm not good with words orremembering things.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's okay.
I'm not good with them either.
But you mentioned you had80-plus episodes of people
knowing that I'm not great withwords.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, no, a lot of people aren't good with words.
It's okay to not be good withwords, I know you know, yeah,
but I gave the show a listen.
Um, I love the way you and dwjust got along and we're talking
to each other and just it's agreat, great, great way to move

(14:16):
on with the show and I loved itand I just I've been listening.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Last few weeks I have been lacking, I will say I've
been pretty busy, so I mean, tobe fair, I think a lot of people
have been lacking, based on ournumbers, but I mean it's okay.
But then again there was, uh,there was a stinker a couple
weeks back that we're not gonnareally get too far into, but I
will say it might have.

(14:41):
I don't know, I'm not gonna sayI put the nail in the coffin of
scolarius, but it sure is, butit whoo, it shut the lid for a
second.
I think holy crap, but anyway,all right.
Um, yeah, and so I brought youon.
You're a comedian, I'm acomedian kind of, and so, and

(15:04):
the basis for scolarius isobviously paranormal and comedy.
So I mean we we've beenchatting amongst ourselves,
maybe entertaining people, whoknows, maybe not, most likely
not but like we've been chattingbetween ourselves, doing the
comedy portion, kind of.

(15:25):
So what do you think?
Should we get to the paranormalportion?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
All right, well, okay , so I picked this first of all.
Another peek behind the curtainof Scalarius.
Okay, we had another episodethat was scheduled to be made.
Things happened, they had to becanceled.
So we kind of had to do this innot short notice, because I've

(15:58):
been thinking about thisparticular subject for a long,
long time.
The opportunity arose based onthe cancellation, and why not,
right?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
yeah, might as well.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Dig into it.
Yeah, the subject that we aredigging into today happens to be
arguably the most haunted dollin history.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I know you're thinking.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I know listeners are thinking Annabelle.
Right, that's what they'rethinking Annabelle.
No, it's not Annabelle.
Actually, if you're in thepronouns which, oh God, I don't
know why you would be.
But if you're in the pronounswhich, oh God, I don't know why
you would be.
But if you're in the pronounsthat one is wrong because it's

(16:52):
not even a chick doll, no, it'sa dude doll and he's a dude and
a doll from Florida.
Yeah, people that are into theparanormal already know who I'm
talking about, but for thosethat are listening to this for
my beautiful voice don't, andyou might as well let them know.

(17:18):
Robert the doll, that is thesubject that me and Zach are
going to be getting into today.
Robert the doll, what do you,what do you think of this, zach?
What do you think of talkingabout robert the doll?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
you know um before you uh texted me uh, that's this
talking about robert the doll.
I had no idea what it was, so Idid uh some in some extensive
research, which was about uh 10minutes of scrolling on tiktok
about it that's very extensivegood job.
That's more than I put in on adaily basis for this show, but

(17:54):
okay but you, you know, I, Iit's actually pretty, pretty
freaking scary, I think, justlooking at it.
Um, I'm I'm excited to talk alittle bit more about it, but uh
, yeah all right.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
So, first of all, we want to say this uh, we're going
to talk about robert the dollin 100 total respect, because
even saying what you just saidthere gives me the
heebie-jeebies, because I know,know that this thing, supposedly
, is very, very powerful andanybody who messes with him,

(18:31):
they're going to get theirs.
So we're going to say thisfirst off Is he a great-looking
doll, as dolls go?
No, not really, but he ispowered by, possibly, an entity
that we need to respect.
So, therefore, but there is noentity greater than God just

(18:53):
throwing it out there, but, youknow, might as well we don't
want any bad juju coming down onus.
So, let's, let's get going withRobert and let's do this in a
kind of respectful manner, asmuch as we possibly can.
All right.
So, first of all, if we want to, we can either go back to the
beginning Well, you always haveto start at the beginning but

(19:17):
meaning we could go back to his.
Yeah, let's just do this.
I'm going to start here andthen we're going to backtrack
and then move our way forward.
He is in the East MartelloMuseum in Key West Florida right
now.
He sits there in a glass box,okay, and on a chair, also with

(19:39):
like a doll, like he has a dollhimself, like this is okay.
Like a little teddy bear,people can look at him.
He does get taken out of thecase every once in a while, but
it's protected.
There's one thing, robert thedoll wants your permission,

(20:02):
wants to have permission.
Wait, hold on, he needs you toask permission.
There we go to take pictures ofhim, otherwise things kind of
happen to you know mess, getmessed up, all right.
So are you ready?
I'm so ready, all right.

(20:24):
The doll originally belonged torobert eugene auto and, yeah,
an artist described as eccentricwho belonged to a prominent key
west family.
The doll was reportedlymanufactured by the steif
company of germany.
Okay, german doll, I canunderstand why he's so it's
already scary yep, there it is.
Yeah, he's angry because he isgerman, um, and he was actually

(20:49):
given he, meaning robert, wasgiven to robert the person, okay
, by robert the person'sgrandfather, okay, in 1904.
And in case you don't know whatRobert the doll looks like,
he's kind of a fluffy doll buthe has a sailor suit on, okay,

(21:16):
and that sailor suit was a suitthat Robert the person wore as a
child.
Okay, yeah, all right, the doll, uh, stayed at the auto family
home at 434 eaton street in keywest.
So that's important.

(21:37):
Okay, 434 eaton street in keywest, florida.
The house, I believe, stillstands, okay, and uh, we'll
we'll get back to that in just alittle bit as we talk about
what happened with Robert atthat house.

(21:57):
Robert Otto the person marriedAnnette Parker in Paris oh, look
at that In 1930.
Okay, the couple returned tothe home in Florida where they
lived until Robert Otto died in1974.
Annette ended up dying in 1976.

(22:19):
After the death, the EatonStreet home contained the doll
and was sold to Myrtle Reuter,who owned it for 20 years until
the and was sold to MyrtleReuter, who owned it for 20
years until the property wassold to the current owners, who
operated it as a guest house,which I mean, I suppose without

(22:42):
Robert there, it's probably notthat big of a deal.
But anyway, now we talked aboutearlier that he was at the East
Martello Museum.
Well, he went there in 1994.
He was donated there.
And the reason why he wasdonated there?
Because Robert was causingtrouble to the owners of the

(23:04):
house.
He was, yeah, he was kind of athing.
He was kind of a turd,respectively.
A turd, yeah, all right.
So his abilities are to be ableto change his facial

(23:25):
expressions.
Okay, walk around by himself.
That's crazy.
Giggle and other things, allright the giggles alone would.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh, just freaking alone in the house and you hear
giggles.
Could you imagine that?
I know?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
but, oh my gosh I'm alone in my house and hear
footsteps and it's crazy, see,and we're gonna digress for just
a second.
Like I, I, we live kind of bysome very high, powerful like
power lines and I'm believe II'm, I think, not 100 sure, but
I think it like causes issuesintermittently.

(24:07):
I'm not saying it's all thetime, but I I think it's like
kind of like I don't know how tosay like supernatural, super
highway or something I have noidea, but like it just happens
every once in a while.
Um, there was times a coupleweeks ago there was like
footsteps and then uh, likebanging, like you hear shit,
like stuff like doors shuttingon their own, uh, things like it

(24:31):
was.
Yeah, it's been crazy, but uh,I think it's nothing huge.
It might just be because I, ifI could do this show and shit's
following me now I have no idea.
But, um, we're gonna go intosome of the stuff that happened
like back in the day with withrobert the doll.
Now, robert the man was anartist and he used it.

(24:58):
Okay, so this, the house thatthey live in, had like a what do
you call those things?
Um, it's the very top of thehouse.
It's kind of not a roof shut up.
I can just hear people likeroof unit.
No, it's a terrace a terrace,but it's enclosed.
Uh, a room, Thank you.

(25:18):
I can't remember the exact term, but it's round, it has windows
on all sides and it's.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Oh, like kind of like a like it's at the way top and
and yeah, it's kind of like anoutlook whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Not a piccolo or a cupola, that's cupola, a cupola
with that.
We'll just go with the cupola.
Okay, so the uh.
Well, yeah, we're gonna saycupola.
I don't know, but the guy usedthat as his art room and he
would sit Robert in the chairlooking out the window.

(25:58):
This is in his older years, sowe're talking like in the late
60s, you know, early 70s orwhatever.
He'd sit Robert in a chairlooking out the window and kids
would walk by or whatever andwave to robert and things like
that.
Well, you know, obviously afterrobert the man died, uh, the

(26:19):
wife put robert somewhere else.
Robert the doll, I apologize,put robert the doll somewhere
else.
She didn't put robert the guysomewhere else, you know where
he went, but anyway.
So put robert the dollsomewhere else and he would end
up in that chair looking out thewindow when school got out,
like every night.

(26:40):
So there's that.
And then lock him in the closet.
Somehow the closet would end upopen, robert be somewhere else.
Uh, when she died, robert stayedwith the house and there was
people that that came in thereand moved in there and had had

(27:01):
kids right, and so people, youknow, the kid found the doll and
it's like, oh, I'm gonna startplaying with it.
Started playing with robert andshit started happening like all
sort of paranormal stuff youknow, like the giggling they're
running you hear running throughthe house.
You can hear you know, uh, himlooking out a window, uh the

(27:23):
door opening and shutting thingslike that.
And finally the parents arelike uh, no, so they took him
and locked him up, put him up inthe attic and when that started
they started hearing footstepsin the attic.
They started hearing thingsjust not going too good for them

(27:43):
.
I believe that's what led.
A lot of that led to Robertbeing donated to the museum that
he's in right now.
So I mean, that's kind of abrief you know thing there, but
still, what do you think ofRobert the Doll so far?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Honestly, some scary shit.
Like, with all due respect,that's probably like if I had to
be in that situation of, uh,hearing those things is just be
crazy, what would it?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, so just so people know you are not a big
believer of any of this shit,right?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
not a big believer.
I I'm welcome into um hearing,hearing people out, um I don't.
I've never really had anexperience, so that's really why
I it's hard for me to believeit, but I also do believe it a
little bit.
You know, I'm just kind of likeriding the fence, sitting right
on the fence okay, fair enough,yeah, well, um, yeah, I, I

(29:14):
don't he.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
He had some weird stuff that he did.
This kid like here.
We're just gonna go throughsome things that maybe robert
the doll possibly could havedone and people don't don't
really know.
Well, you know, robert Ottoeverybody called him Gene named

(29:39):
the doll Robert, and quicklybecame attached to his new
friend um the home where Eugenelived.
Okay, we're gonna now call himEugene, and that's cool, because
now we can tell which personI'm talking about when I say
robert and or robert, okay,whatever.
It's now called the artisthouse.
Obviously we know it's locatedat 534 eaton street.

(30:03):
It was built somewhere between1890 and 1898, um, so his uncle
gave him the doll.
You know, it seemed like thedoll was ordinary, an ordinary
cloth doll.
It wasn't long, you know, andRobert was involved in some of

(30:25):
the strange stuff that happened.
The first hint that somethingout of the ordinary was
happening was one night whenJean, who was only 10 years old,
woke to find robert the dollsitting at the end of his bed
staring at him.
Found him at the end of the bedstaring at him.

(30:47):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I hate dolls.
Yeah, no, I do too.
I've been trying to think ofthe doll, the one with the red
hair, annabelle.
Is that Annabelle?
Is that what it's called?
Yeah, because I know the movieabout the Annabelle doll.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Oh, like Raggedy, Ann .

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, raggedy Ann, raggedy Ann.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
That's why they call it.
Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, we had one of those Raggedy Ann dolls growing
up in the house and I couldnever go around that thing.
I've kind of warmed up to it alittle bit, but when I was
younger there was just somethingabout it.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I get it, me dolls.
There's a different reason.
Anything that looks human-likeand I know it's not human, fuck
that.
Plus, I've had experiences withdolls Not sex dolls shut up
like actual, like haunted dolls,and you know.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
so, yeah, it was that's kind of why like dwarves
kind of scare me too, becauselike they're human but they're
just like shorter, you know likelittle kids and dwarves.
Dwarves you mean like reallymidget yeah I mean I wasn't
trying to use the m word here,but like come on, it's okay.
So like they frighten me theyfrighten, you know, like not

(32:18):
scared, like run away scared,but like that is so funny really
just a little spooky, come on,you know all right, you don't
feel no, because I'm sorrykicking the shin or something no
, it's no different than like akid, you know, like?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
no, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to.
I'm not trying to say thatthey're the same.
I'm just saying, like you know,come on really, I mean, I'm not
, I'm not saying they can't bestrong.
You know, I've seen's wrestlers, I know.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I think I've only seen one or two in my life, if I
really think about it, which isa good thing.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Wait, you've never seen Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Well, in person.
I've seen a dwarf on video, butI've never met one personally.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Who the fuck is this show going to?
Um, I had no idea.
We're talking about robert thedoll, not somewhere over the
rainbow.
You know that.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Right, like it's this yeah, okay you, you were saying
like things, that like uh likeoh human like human, human like,
oh, hold on they are not humanlike they.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
They're humans.
Oh yeah, but like Just throwingit out there, you said
human-like.
No, you were more offensivethan me.
I sit there, I use midget andyou have to sit there and like,
oh no, you're using M-word, butyou say they're human-like.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
They're human.
They are human, but they'reparanormal, not normal.
They paranormal, not normal,they're not normal.
That was from your definitionyou gave a few weeks ago.
They're paranormal, they're notnormal.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Let's come back to your logic here oh, okay, yeah,
I never said that about midgets.
I said about above the normal.
These are normal people.
Oh, my see, like it's me.
You need to be like zach sharp,don't give a shit.
If he hurts people's feelings,my god, talk about me doing it.
I'm correcting you.
How bad is that what I'mcorrecting you?
I am the one, I'm the moralhigh ground here.

(34:26):
How bet, really, okay, allright, yeah, that's.
Oh, I want to rethink some lifechoices there.
Zach, if I'm, if I'm, the moralcompass, we got problems.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay, just out there I'm not saying that they're not
human, it's just it's different.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
So found out that Robert also did some pretty
crazy stuff.
Okay, like overturned furnitureand things like that.
Yeah, like this is how powerfulRobert supposedly is.
Okay, overturned furniturethrough stuff, stuff like that.
This is how powerful Robertsupposedly is.
Overturned furniture throughstuff, stuff like that.

(35:14):
Gene's mom thought it was him.
All he kept saying is Robertdid it.
Now, mind you, good scapegoat,Right, kind of.
But at some point they had tofigure out that Robert the doll
wasn't anybody to be played with.

(35:37):
Yeah, so Robert, sorry, I'mgoing to go back.
Gene grows up, he gets older.
He's going to go out.
He's going to marry this chick,right?
He's going to marry the woman.
Well, he marries her.
And then she's like, hey, whydo you have this doll?
And he's gonna go out.
He's gonna marry this chick,right, he's gonna marry, marry
the woman.
Well, he marries her.
And she's like, hey, why do youhave this doll?
And he's like, hey, I can't getrid of it.

(35:57):
Not, I don't want to oranything, I can't get rid of it,
okay, um, and we found out whyyou can't get rid of it because,
again, locked him in theclosets, he'd find his way out.
Lock him in the attic, he'dfind his way out.
There's he, and then do things,you know, with a giggle, yeah,

(36:22):
which is kind of kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
All right what do you think the giggle sounded like?
Can you do like I can't do?
What do you think the gigglesounded like?
Can you do like a quick?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
little.
I'm not Mr Impressionist.
I can't just do a giggle out ofnowhere.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
You got something.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (36:38):
When I say creepy like kid giggle, I think like
hee, hee, hee, hee.
No, that can't be right.
That sounds nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I don't know.
A grown man child like a dwarf.
I love grown man child like a,like a dwarf I love how the fact
you're you're literally beingan ass clown, and disparaging a

(37:05):
whole group of people.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I'm not trying to.
But wait, hold on.
But wait.
When it comes to your saintdwarf now you might as well just
go all out.
I was, I was quote, unquote theoffensive one, but saying the
mission we.
We've discussed this many, manytimes.
I have friends.
They don't care, right, theydon't care no, they don't care.
I'm not saying that, noteverybody don't.

(37:28):
I'm just saying, like you, usethe word midget.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
So you got the empaths.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Oh, wow, where the fuck is this going?
Can we talk about the doll?
Yeah, let's do it.
All right, jesus.
All right, you're going to getme fucking shadow banned.
I don't know how Numbers can'tget any worse than what they've
been, but you know, you know,somehow it's cool, get me
canceled, it's gonna.
Yeah, that'd be how it goes,like I go throughout my whole

(37:56):
freaking career.
I'm pushing 50, haven't gottencanceled yet.
You get on one show and thenI'll be gone nobody knows who
you are anyway that's true.
you can find that atcrowdmadecom forward slash
collections, forward slash claryspot Anyway.
So we have to get into this.
Neighborhood children reportedseeing Robert watching them from

(38:18):
the window in the upstairsbedroom and told accounts of the
doll actually mocking them asthey walked by to school.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Mocking them.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
How Like, how Like, how do you Like?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
walking with them, Like walking yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
That kind of shit.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's crazy, though.
If that was the case, could youimagine that as a kid?
Is that fucking dolls moving?
Yeah, I don as a kid, thatfucking doll's moving.
A doll, yeah, I don't know.
They probably didn't say it.
You have to be all demure andstuff, like if it was in the 70s
or far out man, check out thedoll.
Kind of like that.
You know, I don't know, butanyway they were telling like,

(39:11):
hey, you know, blah, blah, blah,Like the doll's up there, he's
mocking us.
That's weird that they would dothat.
But you know, when Gene heardthis, he immediately went to
investigate, knowing that he hadlocked Robert in the attic and
there was no way he could besitting by the window of the
upstairs bedroom.
But to his complete shock, whenhe opened the door to the
bedroom, there was Robertsitting in the rocking chair by

(39:33):
the window.
Gene locked Robert back up inthe attic several times, each
time discovering him againsitting by the window in the
same upstairs bedroom.
Now, what do you think Like?

(39:54):
What could make that happen?
An inanimate object behindclosed doors?
What can make it happen?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I don't know well you , you did have um a few weeks
ago.
You had this guest who, uh,sells these items where the
spirits um attached to the items.
So maybe it could have beensomething going on like where it
was being made, like in germanyit was being made in germany oh

(40:23):
yeah, but see those like beforethe first world war.
They were assholes, but theyweren't world-class assholes at
that point so I don't know,something attached to it at some
point and, uh, I don't likepeople apparently not well, it

(40:45):
likes certain people, certainand I feel like it might attach
itself to that certain person orwhatever, and waits it out.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
So you know, as we talked about earlier, gene Otto
died in 1974 when a new ownermoved into the house on Eaton
Street.
Their 10 year old daughter wasdelighted to find Robert the
doll in the attic.
But her delight ended soon whenshe claimed that Robert was
alive and that the doll wantedto hurt her.
She awoke, often in the middleof the night, screaming in fear,

(41:19):
and told her parents thatRobert had moved about the room.
Now I heard at one point thatsame girl in bed woke up and
Robert was like choking her.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Hey, so I don't know If someone woke up choking me, I
don't know To be scared orturned on.
I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
By a doll Okay.
Well A male doll Okay, allright, really don't know.
By adult.
Okay well, a male doll okay,all right, I don't know, all
right now.
Okay, it's cool, man, whatever2025 come on dude, we don't
worry 20 to be a girl or a guydoll could be 2025 and we know
where we're recording.

(42:10):
Yeah, there's LA.
Then there's here Just throwingit out.
There Can't get much yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
A lot of male dolls going on around here.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, a lot of male dolls going on around here.
Yeah, a lot of male dolls, it'scool.
Uh, many believe that theorigin of robert's evil lies in
the one who originally gave himto gene otto, the servant who
worked for gene's parents.
Uh, this woman was supposedlymistreated by her bosses and to
punish them, and is believedthat she cursed the doll with
voodoo and black magic.
That might explain the manymysteries and frightening

(42:55):
experiences people have had withrobert the doll.
So voodoo and black magic nowagain it's in.
It was a key west florida, sothat's down there, it's down
their ways.
Um, I, I think that that isthat's being.
Yeah, I, a lot of that stuffhappens down there.

(43:17):
You know the black magic, thevoodoo, stuff like that.
They always have like, uh,witch doctors and you know what
I mean, the shamans and stuffLike the Cuban cultures or
whatever I don't know.
Yeah, what do you think of that?

(43:40):
It was a servant that wasmistreated.
So she's like I'll show youfuckers.
And she puts a curse on thedoll and it just, yeah, now it
has to like, punish everybody.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, where do you, where do you start voodoo?
Like, how do you like, how doyou get into voodoo?
How does one like just, youknow, ah, I'll just start it.
I don't know, I don't think.
So I think they, uh, like, I'lljust start it, I don't I don't
think so I think they, uh, likeyou, grew up around it.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, it's probably like I don't know.
Yeah, I would.
I would grew up around it.
Maybe your, your grandpa orsomething was like a voodoo
priest or what, whatnot.
And then you're watching him belike oh that voodoo priest or

(44:38):
what?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
what?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
not, and then you're watching him be like, oh, that's
really cool, and then you wantto do that.
Voodoo priest, that's a goodrock band name actually.
Um, I like that.
Uh, it's no better than icenine kills, which is the
greatest band, uh, walking theearth today.
But you know whatever?
Um, all right.
So you know whatever, all right.
So, I don't know.

(45:02):
It might explain the manymysterious, frightening
experiences that people have hadwith Robert the doll, but if so
, would the haunting end whenthe owners died?
No one really knows for sure.
But one thing remains constantRobert the doll continues to
taunt and scare those who cometo view him, especially guests
to the museum who attempt totake a photo.
Many have reported theircameras becoming inoperable when

(45:24):
they try to take a picture ofRobert, only to begin working
again when they left the museum.
Again, robert Dahl sits insidea glass case, but it doesn't
seem to stop him from inflictingfear and discomfort to museum
staff and visitors.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah, that's crazy.
There's actually a more famouscase.
I don't know if you've everheard of Sam and Colby.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if you've everheard of Sam and Colby yeah, I
don't know who they are OnYouTube.
I'm not I don't watch them likeon a regular basis but
apparently Colby got cancerafter visiting him, taking a

(46:03):
picture or taking the videowithout asking permission.
I guess other people have likegone to the hospital right after
, which is crazy that is crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, that's how like powerful this thing could be.
And we're sitting here talkingshit like.
That's why I said we have to berespectful, because I don't
want any of that stuff happening.
I don't need cancer.
God knows that I mean my familyhistory.
I'll probably end up with itanyway, but I don't need it now
and I certainly don't need itlike everything else.

(46:37):
I'm just saying I don't.
I don't need it to be dollinflicted.
That would be the worst.
No, that you know what I meanstage four doll inflicted cancer
.
My word all right, uh, if youwant to.
Again, if anybody out therewants to meet Robert the doll,
you can do that at East MartelloMuseum.

(46:58):
They're welcome to view Robertin his special case at the
museum and, of course,encouraged to try and get a
photo, though must have tried,have been unsuccessful, if
nothing else.
Get a close look at robert andwatch him carefully.
Try to catch a glimpse of himsmirking at you, moving about in
his case, or watching you asyou watch him.

(47:20):
Could you imagine this shitseriously?
The doll turning his headlooking at you as you're walking
by?
like running instantly very run,but I'd run for that very few
things, is it scare me?
But I think that would.
That would trip me the hell.

(47:40):
I had the door of the explorerdoll.
Try to fondle my booty, so likethat makes me hate dolls more,
all right, but watching a dollwatching you walk across the
room, nah man, I would.
I I that that scared the shitout of me really would.

(48:05):
And try to catch this.
I don't know if anybody's everseen a picture of Robert Dahl.
We're going to post pictures onFacebook or whatever, but how
does that smirk?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
How does that smirk?

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah, what I mean is you've seen a picture of Robert
Dahl, right?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
How does that smirk?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
I thought you were like yeah, how does that?
How does that?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
thing smirk, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
And if it?

Speaker 1 (48:39):
did?
And if it did, how do you, howcan you tell?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I guess you'll tell.
I did see this video.
I don't know if it was real ornot.
They caught Robert blinking.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
They caught him blinking on camera.
That was creepy, okay, which isreally weird considering the
fact.
Again, yeah, his face, youcan't.
Yeah, it's just nuts, all right.

(49:18):
Well, I don't know if you knowthis or not, but robert the doll
inspired some pretty crappymovies, um, that you can find on
Tubi, as a matter of fact, butwe're going to go over it.
There is literally a franchise,okay.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
So we're going to go through this franchise of Robert
the Doll movies, of Robert theDoll movies, and I just want you
to tell me, zach, if you havelike recognized any of it, like
anything.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
So, okay, okay, well, four films, well, four films
yep, I'm pretty sure, there'sfour, four films there is four
films I've never seen.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
I've never seen them okay, there this robert, the
curse of the robert the Robertthe Doll, the Toymaker and the
Legend of Robert the Doll, and aprequel, robert Reborn.
Oh Okay, so there's actuallyquite a bit of them, do you?

(50:42):
I mean, you've never seen them?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I've never seen them.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
I was talking to one of my friends about it and I
guess he has.
He's seen the movies and he'sheard about it.
Um, okay, he's scared about it,not the movies, but he's pretty
scared about this episode metoo um.
Thank you, you're I guess I'mbringing the scary no, it's all

(51:13):
good.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Well, let's.
I just kind of want to seewe're going to go over the plot
of the first film, robert, and Ijust want to see how close this
is, okay, to what we justdiscussed okay lawyer, paul otto
, and his wife jenny, an artist,decided that agatha, the nanny

(51:37):
to their son, gene, is gettingpast it and make the decision to
dismiss her.
Agatha takes the decision badlyand the resentful former nanny
promises that uh promises thiswill not be the end of it.
She departs, leaving gene witha hideous doll called robert,

(51:57):
which is that's messed up afterwe send her, say we have to be
respectful.
This thing says cause calls ithideous, although this is the
character robert, not the realrobert okay, so the character
robert the doll, not the realRobert.
So the character Robert the Doll, not the real Robert the Doll,
both played by dolls, alright.

(52:23):
So shortly after Agatha wasdismissed, things started
happening.
Furniture started gettingthrown around, ominous giggles
are heard in the dead of thenight.
Pretty soon, june jenny soonbecomes concerned about the
relationship between gene androbert.
Gene insists that robert isalive and that it destroyed one

(52:46):
of jenny's paintings and wrotedie on her bathroom mirror seat.
That's a little different.
We didn't hear that one.
Jenny soon comes to believethat Robert is alive and was
responsible for pushing thecleaner Martha down the stairs
and killing the babysitter Marcy.
We're, we're, we're.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Jenny's mental health is playing up against it anyway
.
So, yeah, this, the plot ofthis is significantly different
which doesn't shock me from thesource material of Robert the
Doll.
I don't think he was ever amurderer, but you never know,
and yeah, anyway.

(53:28):
So if anybody wants to go andcheck out the Robert the Doll
series, do so.
You can start with Tubi, and Iknow everybody's got Tubi, all
right.
So now we're going to startasking Zach some questions about

(53:49):
this because, well, you know, Ijust want to know what his
freaking opinion is.
What do you so, robert Nadal?
What do you think Is he?
Is he legit?
Is he the thing?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You know, I think this might be one of those
things where I could believe in.
You know it could be real,especially after listening to
that episode of saying likeparanormal things can attach
themselves to, like differentobjects and stuff, and I really
could see that happening here.

(54:26):
Oh yeah, like something realbad that happening here.
Oh yeah, like something real bad.
Well, how scared would you beif it was your doll?
It was my doll.
I got like a skeleton over here, like a giant skeleton, and
like if he started looking at melike yeah, no, I had done, if I

(54:52):
couldn't get rid of it, I'dprobably I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
All right.
So I mean that's a pretty goodquestion there.
Like if you had a doll and thedoll started doing all that
stuff, right, you would get ridof it right, you try to but it.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
I feel like it still lingers with you, like the
spirit itself.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
You know it would yeah, which means you wouldn't
be able to get rid of the doll.
So, just like robert ends up inan attic, he comes out and all
that junk, yeah, yeah, okay, mepersonally, I don't want a doll

(55:40):
like at all.
So, robert the doll mostdefinitely not, cause he seems
like he would be kind of umscary.
Yeah, bad roommate, very badroommate, that's all right, the

(56:01):
bad roommate you are yeah, okay,walk around at night making
noises.
That's what I do which is weirdbecause, like who's your
roommate?
Your mom?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
no, I I got.
I got friends that I live withokay, okay, I got friends.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Come on man I got friend.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Well, okay, they were at least until I did square.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
It's no moon, don't talk to me now.
Uh, which, okay?
So in your opinion, is robertthe doll haunted?
Yeah, like is he is.
Is he haunted?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
he's haunted, we'll go with it.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I I do believe he's haunted okay, now you've heard
the story of annabelle and stuff, right, not, you have a little
bit.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I know a little bit about it okay I know it's a doll
that came to life Kind of.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Similar to Robert.
You know, like similar.
It wasn't like not really cometo life, but I'm going to say
similar premise.
If you were to like divide lifeinto premises, it would be yeah
, similar premise.
Yeah, who do you think would beworse?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
definitely robert.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Okay, definitely robert now, do you okay, go
ahead just something.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I feel like he's more believable, you know, because
isn't annabelle?
That's like a fake thing, ain'tit?
No, no animal is real.
Annabelle's real Annabelle isreal.
Oh God, I got to look into thatnow.
I thought it was just like amovie.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
No, it's in.
Oh wow, you didn't know this.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
I did not know this.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yes, annabelle is real and actually recently she's
on tour with Ryan Buell andFather Bob I think they're from
Paranormal State and whatnot.
She's on tour with ron buelland, uh, the father bob, I think
they're like, uh, fromparanormal state and and whatnot
, so he's on tour yeah tourmoving around moving around.
Yeah, they moved her like, uh,it was, let me see, it was new

(58:04):
orleans, and then san antonio,somewhere else, I, I can't
remember.
And so she goes to new orleansand all of a sudden this
plantation burns down.
That was from her.
I heard about that so, okay, yes, supposedly I don't know if
that's whatever like who knows.
And then I think somethinghappened in in uh san antonio

(58:27):
too.
That was like, and as much aslike that, ryan buell who's new
to tiktok, by the way releasedto tiktok and he's like, okay,
yes, there were fires in neworleans, there were fires in in
uh san antonio.
Did we make them?
No, do we know who did?
Yeah, so he was good.

(58:51):
So I don't know.
Um, but no man, no, annabelleis very, very, very real.
She was a doll.
That was, uh.
They found in the early or late1960s by ed lorraine warren, uh,
found to be extremely fucking,uh, haunted like by possibly

(59:13):
demonic entity.
Okay, and this thing is blessed, like I think once or twice now
they had it's, it's in a casein the warren museum and which
used to be their basement andmight still be, I don't know,
but uh, it's in a case and itwas told not to be moved or
whatever they obviously did.

(59:34):
But uh, and it's blessed, like,I think, once an hour, or
something like that.
That's how powerful annabelleis.
I can't believe, man.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
You should have done your homework man, I'm sorry, I
literally I thought it was justlike a, like a fake movie or
something no no annabelle isreal, like sincerely yes, and
quite powerful from what I heard.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
So again, I don't know, like, who do you think
would be more powerful, robertor Annabelle?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Well, they're moving her around, though, like she's
not in the case, no more.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
No, she well, I mean she just stays in the case.
She was still in the case, okay, but you in the case Okay.
But they bless this case everyyear.
It's just crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
If they're blessing this thing, has Robert ever been
blessed?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
I think Robert's blessed also.
She's more scary, I feel itbecause, she's got the demons
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Yeah, and plus she's more scary, I feel like because
she's got like the, the demonsand stuff yeah, and plus she's a
raggedy and all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
So I mean, there you go right.
Hey, yeah, see I can't believe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I didn't know this I had.
She was in my house, maybe thatno, it wasn't her no, it wasn't
her.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
No, but yeah, man, okay, wow, that was.
I think that was a shocking, ashocking admission right there.
You didn't know who annabellewas real holy my paranormal
background is basically justghosting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Oh, I know why?

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, watching fucking Ghost Adventures.
That's why you don't knowanything.
Holy moly Watching Zach Bagginsdrama.
Clean it up, holy crap.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Zach Baggins and Dr Vekman were my three heroes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I mean okay you went with Peter Venkman, all right.
I mean, okay, you went withPeter Frankman, all right.
I don't know.
You got to admit Egon waslow-key, the funniest person
there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Love Egon.
Yeah, favorite scenes, yeah thedough yeah, I love that stuff,
egon, I don't know that alwaysjust replays in my head.
I love that movie.
What's that when they're likestarting up that movie?
What's that where they're likestarting up the packs after
court and they're?

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
going.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Oh, that's in ghostbusters 2 it's in the
second one ray yeah, yeah, yeah,that was the ghostbusters 2.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Good, good flicks, man, I love ghostbusters.
That's why I do this paranormalcomedy.
That's where it came from,right?
So gotta give it up for theOG's Ghostbusters.
That's pretty cool, okay,alright.
So I don't know, what do youoverall?

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What do you think of Robertlike is?
Is he worth the legend?

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
I think he is.
He's definitely worth thelegend, especially if they're
just keeping him in a box in amuseum.
That's crazy.
Like he's that powerful, that'sscary.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Certainly is Well shit, okay.
Okay, certainly is well shit,okay, he's.
He's worth the legend.
That's cool, what do you think?
What do you think?
I was gonna ask you somethingelse about ghostbusters, but
we'll wait for a little bit onthat one, um, but what do I
think?
I?
I think he is, I think he'sworth the legend and I think I

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don't know.
Um, I don't want to sit thereand say that annabelle doesn't
scare me, but I mean, I knew shewas real, that's why, whatever,
but I don't know.
Just doing this episode I waskind.
Okay, we have to keep thislight and very respectful,

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because I know that thingshappen to people that fuck with
Robert the Doll and, based onhow our show goes at Scalarious,
it'll take everything soseriously and I feel like the
subject and him need to be takenseriously and I don't feel all

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that way about Annabelle.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, yeah, that does make sense, cause there have
been more known events thathappen because of it too.
So yeah, because of it too.
So yeah, because of notrespecting him.
That being said, would you gosee him?
Yeah, I'd go see him, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, I feel I would do like the St Michael prayer
before I walk in and all thatstuff.
But yeah, I would.
I would most definitely go seehim.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Yeah, would you.
I don't know, after thisepisode, probably maybe all that
Dorf talk really.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Okay, yeah, that's where you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I don't, you know what.
We'll go see him.
We'll visit him.
Visit him.
I was gonna say that I wasn'tgoing to, but I'm not afraid of
anything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
No more grabbing life yeah, you're not afraid of
anything, so this I'm not, notafraid all right, so you'll go
see him and I'll go see him.
Maybe we'll go see him together, but yeah, maybe not, who knows
?
Uh, well, I have to ask youthis because I feel like I kind

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of want to know has it kicked inyet?
Oh, yes.
Okay.
Most definitely Okay, very cool.
Good, now we know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Do we know when it kicked in?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
When do you think it kicked in?
See, the game is not to beplayed between me and you.
The game is to be playedbetween us and them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
I'm just asking you when you thought it would have
been, when I thought I think itwas, uh, after you were wrapping
up all the the story behind itand we started talking.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
So it's more recent all right, very cool it's right
there.
It's at a good, good spot rightnow that's, that's good all
right yeah, well, you might aswell end this on a high note,
then, what don't you think?

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
yeah, let's do it very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
so I'm gonna say this robert the doll, I feel very
real, I feel very haunted, andall respect to robert the doll,
I don't want any bad juju, justlet you know.
Alright, now we already saidwhere we can find you and
usually, when you know me and DWjust talk with each other on a

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subject, we do a backseat 40,this or that.
So I'm kind of wondering if youhave a backseat 40, this or
that.
So I'm kind of wondering if youhave a backseat forthy, this or
that um, yeah, do you?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
have okay, yeah I we can just do some of the the
other questions, because I doubtanyone, like you said, probably
didn't listen yes, they did.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
I mean thank you, but you probably did well we'll
bring it.
We'll bring it out to them, tothe people, for free all right,
so maybe, maybe we will, buthold on, and what we're talking
about is, uh, becoming asubscriber to sclarious on
buzzsprout and basically whatyou get extra content like

(01:07:35):
myself and Zach, our interviewprior to this show and other
content from other people but $3a month, support us here at
Scalarius, get some extra stuffthat you're not going to hear,
except for, maybe, this on aregular episode, alright, and

(01:07:59):
you can do that at BuzzsproutcomFourslide.
It's hilarious.
Just sit there.
It's a little cash button.
You click it and then you putsome money in and then you get
extra content from us and wecollect the money, like not a

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lot, because it's like probablysix bucks, but it's like, yeah,
just a little bit, and wecollect it and then myself and
DW split it and then, if you doit after this episode, I'll
probably have to give him a bucktoo.
So, anyway, subscribe to us Now.
Let's do the backseat for thisor that, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Do you want to start?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Yeah, I'll start it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Wait, hold on.
How's the rotation going to go?
Because we have to end it onI'm assuming there's a stupid
question, john Olson or somebodyelse, so we have to end it on
that.
So how do we do that?
How do we start that to end itthat way, or do we just whatever
?
Once we get to it, we'll know,and then yeah, yeah, all right,

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okay, we.
Once we get to it, we'll know,and then yeah, yeah, all right,
okay, we'll do it that way allright all right, so I'll start
yeah eggs scrambled or over easyoh, honestly, I hate eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I really do hate eggs wow but if I were to eat them
it would be scrambled.
I could never eat it over easyokay, never, I love over easy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
By the way, you dip your toast in that yolk.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Eat that shit up, good stuff I think, I think I
know that it's kicked in for youbecause you're making a lot of
sound effects I like this allthe time, all the time well,
this for this episode what Iguess.
I don't know, maybe I'm just.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
That's the part that could.
We got to a part that couldhave sound effects yeah let's
like, unless you're talking likethe 15 minutes we had on
midgets earlier where I couldhave been making like doing,
doing, doing sounds or whatever.
Wow, I don't know all right.
So I asked you, you got it, youasked me we're.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
We're on the, the subject of the breakfast, so um
sausage or bacon sausage, ohsausage, yeah, really not a
bacon guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Uh, I feel, I don't know.
I just again.
I always think of like the bestway I'm going to eat the food
right, and bacon doesn't doanything into the stuff that I
can collaborate into a sandwichand eat.
You see what I mean?
All right, so it's my turn now.

(01:10:51):
Yes, it's your turn.
All right, drive or fly oh,definitely fly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I hate driving.
Um, yeah, I've, you're coming,you're in?
Well, I guess, yeah.
Yeah, I'm a comedian, I'venever had to fly anywhere.
Oh, so I can't.
Well, I guess, yeah, I gottadrive everywhere, but I do hate
it.
I try to get other people todrive.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Um, wow crazy, I'd rather fly, I'd love flying, so
you're not scared of flying,then no, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I actually used to uh , um, pilot hot air balloons,
what?
Yeah, really.
Yeah, it's so fun, it's sobeautiful up there.
It's so peaceful and calming.
It's not windy, because you'regoing with the wind, so it's
like nice and quiet and you canjust hear like the whole town

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and you can see the horizon andthe sunset.
Oh, it's so, it's beautiful wowman, that's impressive dude.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
That's really cool.
Queen Consort she's going to belike oh yeah, she likes hot air
balloons.
Probably will never ride in one.
I like to see them.
Most likely will never ever getin one because you're not going
to catch my I don't.
I'm not that tubby now, but myass up in a 4x4 box 1,000 feet

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above the ground.
Just not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
It's actually safer than you think.
It's way safer than driving, Ithink.
Flying a hot air balloon Okay,Statistically, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Well, yeah, how many people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
For a cap up statistically.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
you know well, yeah, how many people are you gonna
get it?
You're gonna get it, uh, into afive balloon wreck like there's
festivals like down inalbuquerque.
It's happened before oh yeah, Isuppose, yeah, damn.
And see, here I'm thinking ofthis ridiculously silly scenario
happening.
You're like no man, there'smajor ridiculousness is true.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Many people have died .
Thanks for making light of it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
It's not, it's not funny, just ask your question
okay, um lazy river or the wavepool oh, hell, no, you can't do
that.
Do that.
I love the wave pool, but alsoa fat kid almost broke my neck
in the wave pool.

(01:13:19):
Really, sincerely, no, yeah, Idon't know, the wave was coming,
it was on a tube.
Yeah, a tube.
I'm saying I was the fat kid,I'm sorry.
No man.
He just slammed right into melike the back of my like head,

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like yeah yeah, it was, it wasbad dang so I don't think of
that, and then I'm like lazyriver.
I'm just gonna sit there anddrink lazy river, probably.
Yeah, yeah, lazy river.
I'm like Lazy River.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
I'm just going to sit there and drink Lazy River?

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
probably.
Yeah, yeah, lazy River.
All right, wonderful, wonderfulLas Vegas, nevada or New
Orleans during Mardi Gras.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Ooh, you know I'm going to have to go with New
Orleans because, like I'm goingto get so many beads, like I'm
going to have to go with NewOrleans because, like I'm going
to get so many beads, like I'mI'm going to be showing them
yeah.
Um sounds so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Yeah, yeah, I think you, you definitely have a shot
at getting the most beads.
Um, yeah, I think you, you gotthis man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
You really do oh yeah , sorry um I keep, keep
forgetting.
Um, okay, I did ask you thislast time, but I'm gonna ask it
again because it was such, itwas a good question stand-up
comedy or podcasting?

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
damn it.
Uh, what did I say last time?
Do you know?
Probably stand up, it's gonnabe stand up.
Uh, I do love doing podcasting.
I love, I just love.
I love this.
It's fun, I love havingconversations with people that
I'm having fun with, uh, and Ijust like you know, surprisingly
enough like talking to peopleand yeah, I don't know, but

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stand-ups got it though, becausethat way I'm like I'm
commanding them and they're infront of me.
Like here I can stay.
I'm commanding somebody, butthey could be shutting the shit
off and not listening.
So yeah yeah.
So live crowd's way.
Better command that shit, rockit out and then don't give a

(01:15:45):
shit like don't care if they Imean, you want them to laugh,
but if they're laughing becausethey're angry or laughing
because they're happy, eitherway it's a laugh.
I'm going with stand-up, wow,wow.
Ford Mustang or Chevy Camaro.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Got to be Camaro, because I do not like Fords.
I don't like Fords, everythingelse but a Ford I love.
Camaro is a much better caranyways.
Mustangs are death tracks.
I've owned both.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Camaro was my first car.
I had a Mustang in 2000, 2001,somewhere around there, which I
feel was one of the coolest bodystyles, and then they went all
the shit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
so really you thought , you thought the 2001, 2000
2000.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
I know like like the 60s are badass right, yeah, body
style, the mustang fuckingawesome.
But I'm saying like oh, fromfrom then on and today from then
then on, it kind of went downThen in like 2000, 2001, around
there, that body style it waskick-ass, and then they went to
something shitty, then somethingshittier, and then they had

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what they have now, and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Electric SUV.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Mustang Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Crazy, sad, um All right, chinese takeout or
hibachi, damn it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Hibachi, hibachi.
Yeah, I'm going to hoo-hot myass up, yeah, hibachi.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
If I were to go to like, like hibachi place, um, it
would like, it would definitelybe.
Who hot I freaking, I couldspend all day there, yep I love
it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
I've been, I've been losing weight recently and I
just told the queen consort Iwas like, yeah, one of my cheat
meals.
I think we're gonna go to whohot then?
Well, I mean it's not reallycheating because there's
vegetables and stuff and I'mlike, silence woman.
We're going to Hoo Hot and itis a cheat meal, damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Maybe it's better if it's not a cheat meal, you know,
because then it makes yourselffeel better, Because, like no,
you're not cheating.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
That's true, that's true.
All right.
So, cheeseburger or triplecheeseburger, I'm going to go
with the triple cheeseburger.
Look at me, there's no way I'mnot choosing a triple
cheeseburger over a cheeseburger.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Okay Okay, chicken sandwich or hamburger.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Chicken sandwich, always chicken Chicken, on top
Chicken turkey, then everythingelse.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Turkey.
You're a big turkey guy, huh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Never pegged you for a turkey guy, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Big turkey guy.
Yeah, okay, well, I will askyou this one and then you ask
the last one, and you know whatit is.
So, bananas or plantains.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Bananas, bananas, all day.
I don't like warm and mushy, Imean well other things, yeah, I.
I don't like warm and mushy, Imean well other things, yeah,
but I don't listen to bananas.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
If they're putting an inch of the banana bread, then
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
That's literally a plantain but like a plant, well
like, I've only had plantainswhen they're like cooked yeah
and warm and stuff, yeah andtastes funky, right?

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
yeah, it's just.
I think plantains are meant tobe cooked and bananas are meant
to be not, unless it's put intobanana bread, yeah.
Or bars, oh, banana bars.
Oh.
Minnesota banana bars, oh,minnesota Banana bars, bars,
bars, oh.

(01:19:55):
I gotta go to the bar there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Going to the bars, I might drop off my bagel.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
You know, in my bag, cripers, the new Minnesota term.
Cripers, there we go, ohCripers, oh Cripers.
I'm going to start selling thatat the Mall of America at the
fucking gift shops.
Okay, that's where is creepers?
Cheaper t-shirts, oh yeah,there we go.
Or they could get them atcrowdmadecom.

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Forward, slash collectionsforward.
Slash scolari's pot.
All right, man hit me we'vecome.
This is the last one, right andyep, because you got people,
got to ask the stupid question.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Yep, go ahead okay, um dw serene or robert the doll
dw.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Dw took me forever to think about.
Yeah, dw, I don't like dolls,but I can tolerate him, so DW
wins this one based ontoleration follow up question
which one is more creepy?

(01:21:27):
well, I've never seen Robert thedoll order a sprite on the
rocks extra, extra spicy.
So I mean, I've never seenrobert the doll order a sprite
on the rocks extra, extra spicy.
So I mean, I'm gonna say robertthe doll, yeah, extra spicy.

(01:21:59):
Yeah, I'm gonna say, yeah,robert doll wins this one.
He's, he's it is creepy.
Is the sprite on the rocksextra spicy is robert doll's a
lot creepier.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, that's, that's all.
That's all I got.
That's it.
That's all you got that's all Igot that's.
I guess that's all we got.
Well, that was this or that andwe we did, we did this or that

(01:22:23):
and it actually involved arobert's doll uh question.
So that's that's really good,zach, I I want to say thank you
for filling in for the dubs it.
It it was uh quite different.
Maybe, maybe there's apossibility we could have you
hop on uh in in a future showand you can be there with all,

(01:22:45):
both of us and and we can uhtorment uh the one guest.
Yeah, it'd be three on one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, it would be, that'd beawesome, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Well, you know what that means, do you, I do?
You do know what that means, doyou, I do?
I wonder, if they know whatthat means, why don't you tell
them what it means, what thatmeans?
Why don't you tell them what itmeans, what that means?
Well, you guys have beenamazing.

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We have been Scalarius, we areout Laters you.