Ep. 81 A Skeptic's Journey into the Paranormal: Shane Thede

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After nearly dying from cancer complications, skeptic and comedian Shane Thede found himself facing something he never believed in - a haunting that defied logical explanation. 

Shane's journey begins with tragedy when his mother passes away in his arms. Months later, diagnosed with late-stage multiple myeloma, he's hospitalized in critical condition. During those dark days between life and death, strange things start happening. Someone – or something – sits on his bed, shakes him awake before nurses arrive, and even crawls across his hospital sheets. The true mystery begins when these unexplained events follow him home.

From a fireplace that suddenly works after months of being broken, to his deceased mother's phone powering on without a charge, the phenomena escalate. When a heavy sewing kit comes crashing down the stairs at 5 AM, Shane can no longer dismiss what's happening. Is it his mother's spirit, unsettled by his father's quick relationship with a new woman? Or perhaps an entity that attached itself to Shane during his brush with death?

What makes Shane's testimony compelling is his continued skepticism despite mounting evidence. "I don't believe in all this mumbo jumbo," he insists, while simultaneously admitting he can't explain what's happening. His scientific mindset collides with unexplainable reality, creating a fascinating exploration of what happens when a non-believer experiences the paranormal firsthand.

Through it all, Shane maintains remarkable positivity despite his ongoing cancer battle, reminding us that whether facing supernatural phenomena or life-threatening illness, sometimes the best approach is simple acknowledgment: "I'm here for a good time, not a long time."

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Thanks for watching what's going on.

(00:31):
This is scolarius, I am johnolsen and with me as always
again, not with me as always,but with me today, comedian zach
sharp.
What's going?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
on Zach.
What's going on?
Hey, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh, I'm okay.
I'm okay, I recently took upjogging.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, I'm 47, dude, so it's not a good time to take
up jogging.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Good for you, bad on the knees, but supposedly pretty
good, I don't know.
Yeah, I've been doing somerunning.
I've been running to thebathroom a lot, I've been having
some tummy aches.
So well, I'm gonna go tonight.
That's good, all right.
Uh, there's that, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh, what you got I got tell me uh castle cream ale
from uh the castle dangerbrewery up in in Two Harbors
Minnesota.
It's one of my favorite beers.
Nice, I love it yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I've heard of Castle, what do you got?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
tonight Diet Coke.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Diet Coke.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah and water A big ass yeah I also got a water.
Yeah, a lot of water, so that'swhat I do Drink some Diet Coke
and a lot of water.
So that's what I do drink somediet coke and a lot of water, um
, yeah, so, other than jogging,what else you been up to?

(02:00):
Uh, nothing, man, you know,it's just work, that's it.
And some traveling, a lot oftraveling uh, not fun traveling,
just traveling.
And yeah, so I mean, you know,other than that, nothing,
nothing else.
Um got nothing really going on,uh, but you know there's always
something yeah yeah, there'salways something cooking up here

(02:20):
in this brain, but you alwaysthat's good always um nothing.
Yeah, that is that is true.
You know we always play a gameuh called when will it kick in?
Right, yeah, and uh, yeah,again, just letting people know
it.
It's gonna kick in, um, but wedon't know when.

(02:42):
The other thing is, you know,we, we also do the thing in the
beginning like, uh, what you'redrinking, you know, yada, yada,
yada, blah, blah, blah, andmine's pretty standard it was a
weed drink.
For a while then it was likenow it's basically diet coke or
a water, right, and you know, dw, his his is, you know, uh,

(03:05):
usually some sort of fruitydrink.
You know some sort of fruityalcoholic drink.
You know I don't know pinacolita or whatever the hell he
does.
And then you come in with theCastle Danger and everything.
I'm just kind of thinking likemaybe I don't know, maybe we

(03:26):
should do a thing like what arethey drinking?
And what I mean by they is,like the people, like the people
that listen to this, like Ithink that would be a good thing
for them to like interact withme, with don't send me hate
mails, with the fuck you at theend, don't do that but you can

(03:48):
like interact with us, right, um, and you know how they would
interact with us what is that?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
how is that I?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I mean personally, you know, I would think that, um
, they'd want to find us, tointeract with us, and they can
find me at Sean Olsen Comedian2.0 on Facebook.
They can find myself and E-Dubstogether on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
But not as a couple.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
But no, we're not a couple.
That's at the Scolarius page.
We also have a ScolariusTikTokiktok and an instagram,
and also like the email, theemail where they can email me
and tell me what they'redrinking while they're listening
to this.
See, see what I was going there.

(04:37):
They tell us what they'redrinking while they're listening
.
They can email me at scolariuspod at at gmailcom.
And just remember, it is goingto be hate mail.
Just make it original, please,and yeah, and then, if they want
to if only they want to theycould go back and listen to

(04:59):
every single episode that wehave at scolariaspod at gmailcom
.
And if they wanted to find you,you Zach, where would they find
?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
you?
well, you can find me it's crazywell, you can find me on
Facebook at Zach Scharf Comedy.
You can find me on Instagram.
Message me on Instagram, tellme what you think at Zach Scharf
.
You can also find me onInstagram.
Message me on Instagram, tellme what you think at Zach dot
Scharf.
Uh, you can also find me on TikTOK at fat dot Zach.

(05:31):
Uh, those are my main sourcesof social media.
I don't really post a lot, but,uh, yeah, just let me know.
Let me know that you'relistening, you enjoy the podcast
and yeah, yeah, that would beawesome if they would do that.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
That would be great.
I don't mind.
If it's going to be hate mail,I'm cool with it, I embrace it,
bring it to me.
But I just want it to beoriginal, you know, I want it to
be really, really good.
There's like a Daniel Tosh bitwhere he talks about people
emailing In the subject line hewent hey, dipshit, he goes,

(06:11):
which is a perfect way for me tobe like oh, hello, you can't
get hello, essentially, but yeah, so great bit.
I just think people need to uhcontact you know, come on in and
uh bring.

(06:31):
You know, bring, bring, bringthe good stuff to me.
That's, that's what I want andon you know.
Another thing is they could goto crowdmadecom, forward slash
collections, forward slashscolariaspod, and they can get a
whole lot of merch.
You know, you can get T-shirts,you can get hoodies, you could

(06:54):
also I don't know you could alsoget a dog bowl, yeah, a dog
leash and collar.
Or, you know, if you don't wantto put it on your dog, that's
fine.
You know, if you want to use iton your significant other,
that's none of my business.
And you know, as long as itsays Scolarius on it, I am cool.

(07:14):
But my favorite shirt is theO'Criper's t-shirt and that's
DW's O'Criper's t-shirt andthat's DW's O'Criper's t-shirt,
it's brand new.
But you know, you also couldtalk, exactly, you know, like DW
and say, o'criper's, all right,yeah, but that says Scolari's

(07:40):
Pod, forward slash collections.
Nope, that's not right, it'scrowdmadecom.
Forward slash collections.
Forward slash scolari's pod.
Um, you know, last week, zach,we talked about robert the doll,
right, yeah, a lot of doll,creepy ass toy, sorry, much
respect and all that.
Today we actually have a livehuman being with us.

(08:02):
So, yeah, yeah, that's prettycool and this one most likely
isn't going to curse us and, youknow, do horrible shit.
So, but I want to let all theother people know right, quick,
like that.
You know the dubs.
I know you might have missed him.
He will be back next week.
Might have missed him, he willbe back next week, yeah, so

(08:28):
zach's contractually obligatedtwo episode arc is going to be
completed as of the end of thisand uh, yeah, you're, uh, you're
good buddy, and my brother dwwill be back, uh, next week and
can't wait for that return.
I got an awesome D-dubs waitingfor him at the beginning of the
show.
But anyway, let's get to ourguest today.

(08:50):
He's got an incredible storyand some of it is going to be
paranormal, which you know.
That is part of the basis ofthis show.
Let's welcome comedian ShaneThede.
Shane, how's it going?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
uh, it's going just fine.
Man, I guess you know this isagain.
How are you?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
doing?
I not not too bad, just hangingout in my closet.
It is weird.
I went from the like I am in.
I usually record in the thedining room of Casa David's Road
, but today I am in the very,very good, acoustically sound
closet.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, so yeah.

(09:36):
And then you got Zach overthere.
I don't know what he's doing.
He's got a multicoloredantelope behind him, which is
weird, but whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's a bush deer sure whatever yeah, well, if you
hear my dryer going off, I, myroommates, started it right
before I got on here, so if youhear any extra noises from that,
oh sure, it's not we'll sayit's a ghost.
Okay, do my laundry there yougo well we got.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I mean, shane, you know, like I said prior, you
have a pretty incredible storyand some of it happens to be
paranormal, so why don't youshare with us what what's going
on?

Speaker 3 (10:19):
uh, well, kind of back it up a little bit.
Um, back two years ago onjanuary 8th, my mom uh passed
away in my arms.
I did CPR on her the whole nineyards.
But it's actually been kind ofa bit of a comedy bit with me
about it.
I do bring it up in my comedy.
But so, kind of fast forward alittle bit, some weird things

(10:42):
have kind of started happeninghere at my home.
Fast forward a little bit, someweird things have kind of
started happening here, um, atmy home.
So my father, uh, who, who uh Ilive with now, uh, he started
dating someone kind of likeimmediately right after my mom
died, which is kind of weird,kind of odd, whatever, um, but
it shows you kind of how, howweird and fucked up people can

(11:03):
be at times.
It's like, uh, my dad has apicture of his new girlfriend
literally exactly right where mymom died.
Um, yeah, it's a little fuckedup.
I told him that he shouldn'tput it there, but, um, he just
doesn't listen.
Um, so, whatever in my you knowmy mom is, is, uh, my mom was a

(11:25):
very unique individual.
Um, we had a very complexrelationship, um, if you know
what that means, you know um,but, um, let's kind of fast
forward a little bit.
Um, um, some, uh, about fivemonths ago I was diagnosed with
late-stage multiple myeloma,which is cancer, and in February

(11:49):
I wound up going to thehospital and I literally almost
died and I was at the fourthfloor of St Mary's and I was
there for about three and a halfweeks and some of the weird
shit started happening then, um,which is kind of odd, um, I

(12:10):
guess I I just kind of just goright into kind of what's
happening.
It's like what would happen islike I will be laying there, you
know, kind of just heavilymedicated, and it'd feel like
someone just sat on your bed youknow what I mean, yeah, and
like, and you're like what thefuck?
And you'd feel the bed shift,you know, and I'm like, okay,
that's, that's odd, um, and thenI I'm I would actually feel

(12:34):
like something or someone liketouch me, um at times, but it'd
be like a, like, a shake, likethey could shake me awake, and
then, as soon as it would happen, like swear to like it would
shake me awake, and then, assoon as it would happen, like
swear to God, like the nursewould walk in.
It's like someone was like, hey, wake up, here they come.
I mean it's kind of weirdbecause like I would get like an

(12:55):
aura or like a feeling, not inhostility but not it wasn't
loving, but it was kind of likejust looking out for me, kind of
feel Okay.
And it kept repeatedlyhappening and it even got to a
point where I could feel likethe person, like or whatever the
entity.
You know, rewind a little bit.

(13:17):
I don't believe in all thismumbo jumbo, weird shit, so I
can't explain what this shit isyou know, can't explain what
this shit is, you know, um, butuh, I could feel like something
like literally crawling on thebed on top of me, um, and you
know, I'm like thinking, is itbecause I'm fucking whacked on
the painkillers or whatever?
But it kept happening, likeevery time, like something,

(13:41):
someone's about to walk in,something would wake me up or
grab my foot and shake my footor would push me in the shoulder
and I'd wake up.
It's kind of like.
It was kind of odd.
It was kind of like looking outfor me type of thing.
You know like, hey, wake up,here comes the nurse, and so,
anyway, so I was there for threeweeks, I got out and about two

(14:03):
weeks later I had to go back infor complications and it
happened again.
Same thing, fourth floor, stMary's or not St Mary's, but
Methodist Hospital in Rochesterhere and then what was kind of
fucked up is I?
Finally I came home and itstarted happening here at my

(14:25):
house, um and um, yeah, what wasexactly right?
Um, and it'd like wake me upbefore my alarm would go off,
type of weird shit.
It's just like it's.
It's odd.
You could actually actuallyfeel like the person like, like,
like you know, like when you'rea kid and your parents will sit
on your bed while you'resleeping and kind of wake you up

(14:46):
.
Yeah, that's what was happening, you know.
And then my girlfriend's hereand she attests to this.
In my house, in my living room,I have a gas fireplace.
It's in the wall and my momwould sit in front of it all the
time and have it on becauseshe's always cold, right, and

(15:10):
about four months ago it ceasedworking, okay, and we couldn't
turn it on.
We fucked with the remote, wefucked with it.
We were like I guess it's brokeTo the point where we were even
going to call the landlord andsay, hey, fix your fucking.
You know our little thing,right, right, and my girlfriend
would attest to this that all ofa sudden one day the fucking

(15:31):
fireplace turns on, okay, and mymom's cell phone, from two
years to still sit here, isstill sitting on our dining room
table.
I can show it.
It's like, right there, right,wow, okay, and that thing hasn't
been turned on in two years,alright, the fireplace turns on,

(15:52):
and then the phone turns on andcycles up.
Okay, right now, if I tryturning that fucking cell phone
on, it won't turn on for nothing.
We can't charge it, we can't doanything.
So that's weird and I'm like,okay, cool, whatever, maybe it's

(16:15):
my mom, whatever, who knows whocares, right, it's whatever.
But what was really spooky isabout two weeks ago it was like
five o'clock in the fuckingmorning I wake up in an absolute
fucking panic attack.
You know, okay, now I'm apretty, I mean, I, I don't
really have panic attacks, it'sit's.
You know, it's just not mything, man, I don't suffer from

(16:37):
anxiety or any of that shit.
So I come downstairs and I'msitting here and, uh, my mom mom
was a seamstress and she hasthis like like sewing kit, slash
radio thing.
That was upstairs but we have alittle like like balcony thing,
ok, and I come down having thispanic attack and I'm like what

(16:59):
the fuck?
So I start eating a bowl ofcereal while you're trying to
calm down and watch TV.
So I start eating a bowl ofcereal while you're trying to
calm down and watch TV andliterally this fucking 10-pound
fucking radio, fucking sewingkit thing comes flying down the
fucking stairs and I'm like, didmy cats knock it off?
I mean, I'm looking for reasons, but it's too heavy for a cat

(17:20):
to knock around.
You know what I'm?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
saying Right.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
So I don't know what it is.
I'm trying, I'm thinking maybeit's the cats, I don't know, but
it's just, it's too fucked upbecause where the thing was
sitting it wasn't on a ledge,you know, um.
So I don't know if, if it's mymom, you know, still sticking
around pissed off at my dadbecause I told you what's kind
of you know what, still stickingaround pissed off at my dad

(17:46):
because I told you what's kindof you know, or if I brought
something back from the hospitaland you know, and it's like I
don't know, it's a littlefucking spooky to me, man, it's
like, you know, I can't explainwhat the fuck's going on.
I don't, I'm not a big, youknow, I don't really believe
that much in ghosts and theafterlife and stuff, but you
know, it's just a little, alittle odd, a little fucked up

(18:09):
so, alright, so we're gonnaunpack a lot there, cause you
just put a whole lot of stuff onus.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
So I wanna go back.
First, you said I mean firstand foremost.
You said I don't believe in anyof this shit, which I mean it's
just cool.
It's good to be a skeptic,because if you're not a skeptic,
everything will be a ghostBottom line, you know.
So it's good to be skepticalnow.

(18:38):
Yeah, you had some tragedyhappen right there your mom
passing away, basically in yourarms, yep, there, um, your mom
passing away, uh, basically inyour arms, um, yep, the stuff
happening with with your dadright after that and uh, getting
the girl and her being there.
I'm sure there's, there's sometrauma, but, um, and I'm
assuming I mean the energy isalways going to stay there.

(19:00):
So when you say it could beyour mom, I'm sure some of it
could be.
And just based on the energy,the questions I have here when
you were at Mayo and all thisstuff was happening, you had it
felt like people, like you said,crawled on top of you like

(19:21):
literally laying on you, yeah,like started from the foot of
the bed and like they werecrawling on top of you, Like
literally laying on you.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, like started from the foot of the bed and
like they're crawling on top ofme and it sounds weird, but like
I picture.
I don't know why I picture this, but I picture like a blonde
haired person wearing yellow,which sounds fucked up, but it's
something that something kindof added.
I don't know if it was ahallucination or a dream or
whatever, but you know, kind ofunkept and burly, so I don't

(19:56):
know, but I don't know why thatcomes to a forefront.
I don't see it.
I didn't see anything, butthat's just.
I don't know Whatever.
So, yeah, I mean, maybe I don'tsee anything, but that's just.
I don't know Whatever.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
So yeah, I mean, maybe I don't know your vision
in the end is too low and I'mnot saying like whatever, yeah,
like I get it.
You're not big into this stuff,you don't believe in it and
that's cool.
So you're asking essentiallyhow would you explain everything
that's going on?
That's your actual realquestion in all this explain

(20:26):
everything that's going on.
That's that's your actual realquestion.
And all this like, or do youfeel like maybe you're starting
to believe it and you'reactually saying what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
oh, I'm saying, I'm saying what the fuck?
Um, because I mean they're.
I mean you know, I know what Iknow, right, and I, I I
experienced what I experienced.
I'm not making shit up and uh,it's, you know, I mean you, I
guess it comes on.
The point was like some, somethings you can explain and some
things you can't explain.

(20:54):
And when you can't explain it,that you know we've got to kind
of put for what, we'll explainit, and if that makes sense, so
I mean you know.
So, like I said, I really don't, I'm not, I'm a skeptic on a
lot of this stuff, but I guessit's.
If you can't explain it, then Iguess that's what it is Right.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
And then you said you were at the Methodist hospital.
Right, okay, all right.
So where is that injunction tothe Kaler hotel?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Right Kitty corner to it.
Actually, I could look out mywindow and see the Kaler Hotel,
okay.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
And are those Okay?
So I know that there was partsof the Kaler that the Mayo
Methodist or whatever used tohouse patients and stuff at one
point.
So was your area of the hotelconnected at all to the killer?

Speaker 3 (21:49):
No, but no, no, not at all.
All right, it's a.
It's.
It's the Eisenberg building,where I was at.
It's like right across thestreet.
Okay, four floor, yep, and the,the, the palliative care or or
a cancer unit.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
That's there, yep um, so I was at st mary's for a
while and I was in the icu andall that, all that junk, and
they, when they moved me, theymoved me to like the regular
room right, like just, uh, aregular one, and I had activity.

(22:28):
But mine was like just talking.
You know, I could hear talkingright next to me.
Uh, you know, sometimessomething to move or whatever
it'd be weird tv turned on byitself.
You know things like that.
Yep, okay, so that's at.
Again.
I'm gonna use the Okay, sothat's at.
Again.
I'm going to use the M word.
It's at the Mayo Clinic, butthe St Mary's Hospital.

(22:51):
You were at the Mayo Clinic atMethodist, two different
buildings, but the activity isthere on both sides.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, they were both hospitals at one time, I'm
assuming.
I'm sure there's a lot ofpeople who have died in those
buildings.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Oh yeah, absolutely, teaming into thousands, I was
kind of trying to get to where,like um, what was the methodist,

(23:32):
like you say, the methodisthospital?
I'm assuming it was like wasthere a special unit that you
were in?
You were in the oncology unitor palliative care, right, and
but was that unit something elsebefore?
Because at saint mary's theunit that was just the regular
rooms was the mental part at onepoint.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, the sixth floor it was at one time was.
It was the yeah, yeah, um, I Idon't know, I really don't know,
uh, what, what, what it was,but I'm I'm assuming it probably
had to have been something atone time.
You know so, or even I, youknow even I.
But you know, I mean, you knowit's that's the cancer unit.

(24:15):
So I mean I'm pretty sure hehad some crazy shit happen there
.
So probably a lot of people umdying at that point on their
pending on yeah, um, well, shit,okay, so you had the feeling
that maybe that thing came homewith you yeah, um, because I've

(24:36):
had some unexplained shit happenhere now, um, like I like I
said, every once in a while Ihave something wake me up for no
fucking reason, you know.
The grabbing of your footessentially is shaking you awake
, or like something sitting onthe bed, you know, to the point
where I thought maybe it was mycat, you know, jump on the bed

(24:58):
and I wake up.
Oh fuck, there's nothing there,you know, yeah, so I mean it's,
it's to the point where I'd seewhat happens.
Now I'm just like hello, what'sgoing on, buddy, you know, type
of shit, like you know, it'slike there's something fucking

(25:19):
there, dude, you know, and it'snot evil, it doesn't feel evil,
it doesn't feel good either, youknow, it just kind of feels,
you know it.
Just, I guess I can explain.
It's kind of like an inmate.
You know, um, because you, likeeverybody knows my story, that
you know I was in prison for awhile where another inmate's
looking out for another inmate,type of thing.

(25:40):
Okay, you're not, you're notfriends with the guy, but you're
looking out for the otherinmate, and that's kind of how I
got it, which is like, yeah,does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
So it's like, hey, buddy, look out, you know type
of thing.
You don't know him, but you're,you know, just looking out for
another person.
That's kind of how I got,that's the feeling I got out of
it.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
So, you know, it's even funny because I'm even I'm
even skeptic about even fuckingtalking about this, because I
don't want fucking kook, buttrust me, the audience that's
going to be listening to this,they're in it for the story man,
they're in it to hear yourghost story like.
And, trust me, the goofier thebetter.

(26:22):
That's.
That's how, that's how it'll be.
Um, so, have you ever had aparanormal experience before
this?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
this not really no, uh, yeah, it's okay.
So back like nine years ago Igot hospitalized in saint mary's
up on the sixth floor.
Um, I had something.
I had something called a maloryweiss terror.
Uh, where it's I?
I cut open my esophagus and Iwas bleeding internally and they

(26:50):
had a stitch.
They'd clamp it back togetherand I was hospitalized for a
couple weeks there and they gotinfected and I had a like really
bad infection, whatever.
Um, but when I was there, uh, Isaw something in my room
constantly and it was a black,dark figure up.
It was actually in the ceilingup in the corner.
I thought that was because Iwas hallucinating, because I had

(27:10):
a fucking fever from aninfection and I kind of
researched that where I thoughtI was dreaming or whatever.
And it's like when you have afever like that, your body will
you have fever dreams and it'sit's your body trying to fight
off something, what I researchedthat but but yeah, that's the
only other thing I thought of.
But that's I'm not going to gointo that one, that's you know

(27:31):
and I'm not.
I don't think I'm not going togo into that one, I don't think
I'm some conduit for this shit,but I thought maybe that's just
a fucking bad dream.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
You never know, but it is.
We just talked about the 6thfloor at St Mary's.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, that was a psych ward yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, that shit happens.
See, this is kind of the themewith everybody that I've talked
to.
I've had skeptics on here.
You know our friend Goobs andhis story is I've never had a
paranormal experience that Iknow of.
So I mean if it hasn't happenedto me, it's bullshit right.

(28:12):
Yep, I mean if it hasn'thappened to me, it's bullshit
right.
And everybody else's story,essentially that had had

(28:34):
experiences or whatever else.
They grew up in a haunted houseor they hung around their
grandmother's home that washaunted, or an aunt, you know,
lived in a trailer that washaunted, or whatever, they seem
to be more believers.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's funny you mentioned Goobs, because Goobs
came and visited me a coupletimes when I was hospitalized.
That's when we started talkingabout it.
That shit was happening.
He told me to look you up.
He said that's something weshould bring up to you guys.
But so yeah, I mean.
So he was there talking.
It was like, dude, this thing'sfucking happened to me, dude,

(29:01):
it's crazy, you know that's.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I mean it's, it's awesome, but not at the same
time.
I understand, like you're therefor a reason that's beyond my
comprehension right now and I'msorry.
Like that really sucks.
I um, but you like get thisshit happening to you too and,
like you said, it wasn't scaryor you know, like whatever, but

(29:27):
it's, you just didn't need it ontop of what was happening yeah,
well, you know, and honestly itbecame the point where it's.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
It's, it doesn't bother me, you know, when it
happens it's like all right,cool man, thanks, man, thanks
for looking out for me.
You know, uh type of thing, andI don't know, I'm just man, you
know, it's whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
So oh okay, I mean, yeah, you never had a paranormal
experience before this stuffstarts happening to you.
You go to the hospital, youstart happening, having them
then, and then you come home andthey're with you now.
So I mean, you might not be aconduit, but whatever it is, it
certainly likes you and one ofthe you know whatever energy is

(30:12):
wanting to follow you aroundyeah, you know, I know that's uh
, I don't know if that's good orbad.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
So you know, I don't want to start collecting these
things, you know as long as theydon't bother you.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
you know, I, I, we have sporadic paranormal
activity here, casa de Batrod,and it's like a TV turn on or
there'll be footsteps orthere'll be doors opening and
shutting or things like that.
But you know, 97% of the timeit's cool.

(30:48):
So I mean nothing, ever it'squiet here.
So I understand like you beingcool with it, because I'm, you
know, like that stuff it happensand we just kind of move on.
Yeah, zach, you got anything.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
You did mention that it followed you back home.
When was the last time you feltlike you'd woken up from it?
A couple weeks ago, yeah, whatwas that like.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Was it just shaking your?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
feet.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, just something grabbed your foot like a hey,
wake up.
You know, like a quick littlejostle, I like, okay, wake up.
Like okay, what the fuck man?
Oh, I guess it's time to get up.
You know it happened.
It happened five minutes beforemy alarm supposed to go off.
So I'm like, hey, thanks youknow.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
So it's funny.
I was just thinking that it'slike a supernatural alarm clock
yeah, I ain't mad at him.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Thanks looking out, brother, you know so, yeah, so
maybe, maybe that's what youcall this episode supernatural
alarm clock we'll see, I Isomething will come up.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
We always have something that comes up that
ends up being the title of theepisode.
So I mean, who knows, maybesupernatural alarm clock will,
maybe that'll be the one I don'tknow right yeah, like that so
okay.
So you said a couple weeks agowas the awakening that you know.
Anything else happened withinwithin that period?

(32:33):
Has it slowed down?
Has it sped up?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
No, it's kind of ceased a bit.
I mean, they told you that theradio getting thrown, which is,
I mean, that's, I don't know,that's the first time it's ever
been some form of violence.
You know, and I don'tunderstand why I woke up in a
panic attack and then had thathappen, and you know it wouldn't
happen.

(32:57):
It spooked the shit out of you.
You know, like what the fuck isthat?
You know, and you look andthere's just fucking tv at the
bottom of my stairs, or thisradio like picnic basket thing
that my mom had, um, you know,it's all you know.
Of course, the antenna is allbent up and shit now and
whatever.
And you're like, is that my mom, you know, getting pissed off
throwing her own shit?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
you know, um, I don't know so you said it wasn't
sitting on the ledge.
But where was it?
Do you remember?

Speaker 3 (33:32):
like where it was before it was by the ledge, um,
you know, um, but you had to,like you know, about a foot away
from this fucking ledge.
So I mean it's, it's, I mean itwas close to a ledge, but not
on the ledge.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know, I'm saying yeah, uh, so yeah no, like big
trucks going by the same time,no train.
You're not the man I live.
I live in a quiet, quiet littletownhouse, little area, and you
yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
No, like big trucks going by at the same time, no
train, nothing, man.
I live in a quiet littletownhouse, little area, and you
know I do have two cats, butthere's no way, there's no way
that they could move that thing.
You know, I mean it's a pretty,I mean it's like, you know, 10
pounds, man, you know, or so.
It's a larger box, like alittle bit smaller than like an

(34:16):
igloo, cooler, you know.
Yeah, so it's got a radio in itand whatever.
Yeah, imagine that being throwndown the stairs.
I mean how loud it was.
You know.
Yeah, fucking scared the shitout of me, dude.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
And then he said it was like a foot away from the
ledge, so it would have to go afoot before it even went over.
So therefore, like you knowwhat I mean, that's, it's,
that's a lot of uh, I'm you know, you know, yeah, that's exactly
it, you know, and here's afunny part.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
So it's like five o'clock in the morning, right,
um, and my dad's not here, um,because he's staying in his
girlfriend's house.
This fucking Filipino lady boy,he's dating up in Wabasha, you
know.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Might be the most normal person in Wabasha Right
Right.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
So yeah, so he's constantly up there on the
weekends and shit, and uh, let'scause a bit of a contention in
our family, but we're not gonna,I'm not gonna get into that,
but so yeah, so you know it's uh, I'm sitting here by myself and
here you go.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay, so alright, between the time your mom passed
away and you coming back fromthe hospital there, how sporadic
was the activity before that,and then did it ramp up after?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Nothing really happened.
Nothing was really going on.
I talked to my brother aboutthis and he's got a theory that
he's saying he's seeing shitpertaining to my mom and Red
Cardinals.
I have dismissed everything.
He said Whatever Spooky shit,but only this weird shit started

(36:18):
happening since I was diagnosedwith cancer and my
hospitalization, and that's beenthe past six months.
So a lot of the stuff's beenhappening since then and I've
been woken up a couple times bysomething or whatever.

(36:39):
And of course we had thefireplace incident and then the
radio incident.
I mean that's a lot of shit,man.
I guess if you look at it youknow I mean I's a lot of shit
man.
I guess if you look at it youknow I mean I don't know, I

(36:59):
guess I'm being a littledismissive, but I mean that's
kind of a lot of shit, I guess,going on.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I mean, it seems like it, yeah, and the question is
like is it going to get worse?
So was the radio being tosseddown the latest thing?
Or was that that was the latestthing?
Yep Watch, Okay, Anxious tohear what will happen next.

(37:28):
If that was, it, is the chairyou're sitting on going to just
levitate and move over back tothe door?
You know like what's going tohappen.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I mean, you can't get much more fucking crazy than
that man.
I mean it's like, yeah, I hearyou.
At that point I'm moving thefuck out.
I don't know there you go.
If it's following me around,dude, who knows?
I mean that's the weird part,you know, and I get the feeling
that what's going on is thesearen't.

(37:58):
I got a feeling this isn't mymom, it's something else.
So that's kind of my Attached toyou at the hospital, thinking
maybe I mean because I mean thatwas some fucking dire shit man,
I was not in good.
I mean I was in some fuckingdire shit man, I was not in good
health and I was on the cusp offucking getting out of here.

(38:21):
You know, that's how sick I was.
I mean I was in total renalfailure the whole nine yards and
I got intubated and all thisshit and it was pretty fucked up
.
And so I'm thinking maybe I gottoo close to the edge, you know
okay I don't know.
I mean I don't know if that'spossible or not, or you know I,

(38:44):
you know, I don't know, butthey're.
I've heard theories of like, uh, you know, drugs being able to
bring you closer to anotherdimension.
I've heard people talk aboutthat.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I don't know if.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I got, you know, too fucked up on fucking meds.
I don't know it's, you know, Idon't know.
It's a plethora of weirdtheories, you know so.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Which one's more believable for you now?
The fact that you might have aghost, and even though you don't
believe in it, or that drugsare going to take you to another
dimension, literally?

Speaker 3 (39:19):
uh, both, I don't know.
You know I, I used, I'mrecovering drug, ag bro, believe
me, I've, I've, I've gottenhigher giraspofy.
I've been fucking, I've seensome crazy fucking shit in my
life, man.
So yeah, I mean, you know,we've been up for fucking so

(39:43):
long on fucking meth and thenyou fucking start seeing ghost
people and talking to them.
You know the shadow people andshit.
Yeah, it'll happen so you're,just you're.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
You're dismissing the fact that you might have had
paranormal activity actuallyhappening to you back then.
Even you're whacked out of yourmind but still like
legitimately it's been happeningto you, yeah so maybe you
should be a believer now.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Maybe you are a conduit well, you know, I am, I
I'm kind of, I'm kind of leaningthat way now because I mean
it's the only explanationscientifically.
You try and look at this shitand it's the only explanation
that there possibly is anotherform of energy or sentient being
or something.
You know and you know I could I.
Let's try and base it downscientifically.

(40:30):
I mean, you know, I think we'reall basically uh, matter and
energy, right, I mean that'swhat the atom is.
So I mean, you know, I thinkwe're all basically uh, matter
and energy, right, I mean that'swhat the atom is.
So I mean, so it's residualenergy of the atom left up
behind, and that's your baby,could be your soul.
I don't know, it could be abunch of shit.
You know there's a bunch ofplausible deniabilities by those
shit.
You don't, you don't know whatit is.
So I mean, but I uh, I am not,you know, arrogant enough to

(40:54):
realize that we have not beenable to figure out all this shit
yet.
We still figure out new shitevery day scientifically.
So I mean, you know it could bea scientific explanation for
all this.
We just haven't figured it outyet.
You know, of being, you knowmaybe a soul or energy or being
or whatever you want to call it.
You know, I mean, I'm not, I'mnot that arrogant.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
So I think it'd be badass to actually
scientifically prove thatthere's a ghost.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Oh, yeah, that'd be fucking cool.
I mean, you would changesociety by that.
Oh yeah, you think about it.
I mean everything would changeand we I mean religion would
change, everything would change.
I mean it'd religion wouldchange, everything would change.
It'd be spooky as fuck.
It's like the proof of aliensIf you prove that it shoots
religion in the foot, kind of.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, let's talk about the house you're in.
That might have something to dowith it too.
You said you live with your dad, so is this your house or his
house?
How is that?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Well, it's both of ours.
We're both on the lease.
It's a newer constructiontownhouse.
It was built about maybe eight,nine years ago, okay.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
So there's not a lot of history to it.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
No, no, okay.
Besides years ago, okay, so itwasn't like there's not a lot of
history to it.
No, nope, okay.
Besides having my mom die here,yeah, so, I mean, so, I mean
she, she, she, she, she fuckingdied here.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
So and that was the start of it, so to speak, like I
mean you really noticed.
You didn't notice anythingbefore, but most definitely
noticed after your mom you know,I think there's some weird shit
, I guess.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Uh, okay, so, like, I had these drapes up in my room
that my mom put up, um, you know, before she passed, because I
was living here, um, with myparents, okay, um, and I took
them down to wash them, okay,and um, I, I have a maid who
comes in once every two weeksand cleans up whatever.

(43:00):
She took them down to wash themand all of a sudden my drapes
fucking disappeared, okay, andyou get to the point where I'm
kind of pissed.
I was like telling the maid, Iwas like where the fuck can my
drapes go?
My mom made these fuckingdrapes for me I want to put back
up, and she passed away and she, like, I don't know what

(43:21):
happened to him.
We looked fucking all over thishouse looking for these fucking
drapes.
I mean, they're fucking huge,you can't fucking miss them,
right, right.
And we couldn't find him,whatever.
And then I then I remember Ichecked, we checked his hamper
like three fucking times and ittook a matter of weeks.
Man, we're trying to find mydrapes.
I got to the point where it'slike, look, I'm not going to

(43:42):
have you clean my house anymoreunless you find these fucking
drapes.
Right, gotcha and lo and behold, like the fifth time we checked
his fucking hamper, there theywere.
So I don't know, I don't know.

(44:03):
What is that?
You know, is that paranormalactivity?
Or is it just a fucking?
Maybe you know that's, but yeah, it was there.
I mean, we finally found himeventually, this fucking.
So was that my mom fuckingfucking around?
Where the fuck are my drapes?
You know, you know it's, Idon't know.
So that happened, you know,after my mom's death, of course,
and you know I don't know, butthat's the only other thing.

(44:24):
But that didn't happen beforethe cancer thing.
It happened probably in June oflast year.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Wow, yeah, I mean you got a lot of stuff going on,
you really, I mean you do atleast two different people, you
would assume, right?

Speaker 3 (44:46):
but this is.
It sounds like it's too muchman, it's, it's like that's.
I mean, if this is true, then Igot like some paranormal
fucking hot spot going on here.
That's a lot of shit happening.
Or am I just fucking goingfucking cuckoo, you know?
You know what I'm talking about, because that's a fucking lot.
You see these TV shows ofparanormal shit, they don't have
this shit happening, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
It's not a light switch, man, and that's the
thing.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
You can't turn it on and off, I lost you.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Oh, you're good, you're there, buddy.
Okay, there we are I got you.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
I lost you for a second.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
So you, you.
I lost my train of thought, man.
I I don't know what happenedthere.
I thought we lost each other,but but we didn't Like I had you
were there.
You were still there.
Yeah, zach.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
You were saying it wasn't like TV, something like
that.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
When you see these TV shows, they don't have this
much fucking activity going on.
Man, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
No, but like I said, oh yeah, it's not a light switch
, right, it won't turn on andoff.
There's a possibility that itjust was happening or it didn't
happen for a while, and then allof a sudden, now it's just like
hey, guess what?
We're going to do all thisstuff, and then pretty soon it's
going to go away, and then Tofuck you, motherfucker, I got

(46:17):
you.
But on TV they act like thingsare happening constantly and
they're really not.
They're not, I don't know, andsome of that stuff is made up
anyway.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yeah, I get that.
But you know, that's the pointwhere I'm saying that this is a
lot of activity in fucking a fewmonths where dude, that's, I
mean that's, I mean fuck dude, Imean people who are supposed to
live on a fucking hell mount orwhatever, fucking don't have
that much activity, you know.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
That's funny.
I well, I mean apparentlythat's funny.
I well, I mean apparentlyyou've never seen amityville
horror, because that shit was.
It was quite a poltergeist.
The movie poltergeist that hada lot, real quick too.
Very like like glass moved onescene and the next scene like
there was a pile of chairs andthen all the cabinets are open.
Yeah, sometimes I think I livewith poltergeists.

(47:13):
I just had teenagers.
Every cabinet in the damn houseis open.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Oh, dude, and believe me, back in the past, when I
was younger, we would fuck withmy mom so bad She'd walk in the
kitchen, she'd walk out, me andmy brother would run in there
and fucking open all thecabinets and stack chairs with
someone to run away, and all thequiet Scared the shit out of my

(47:40):
mom.
We did shit to her all the timeshe was.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
She totally believes she's haunted.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Oh fuck yeah but that was her getting back at you.
Yeah, I bet if you got back man, I mean, yep, that's too funny.
So I mean just we're getting.
Are you starting to believe?
Believe in the paranormalactivity and it's not all
bullshit, or are you stillsaying it's bullshit and there's
another explanation?

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Well, here's what I'm trying to say.
I'm a science-based individual.
I look for factual things.
Facts are this shit happened tome and I can't fucking explain
it.
So that means I'm kind of opento the ability that maybe it's

(48:21):
some fucking crazy thinghappening.
You know, I mean I don'tbelieve it.
I didn't originally believe inall this shit, but I mean right
now, factually, and how lookwhat happening?
There's no other explanationbesides this.
So you've got it.
You does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Right.
So the other question is doesit happen to anybody else in the
house?

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Uh well, like my girlfriend saw the fucking, the,
the TV, the fireplace thing, sothey're seeing it.
You know I mean the, the, the,the fireplace thing, so they're
seeing it.
You know I mean the, the, thetouching thing that's only
happening to me.
I'm being, I'm being, I'm beingmolested by a ghost you
wouldn't be the first one.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Uh, we had a whole show about that.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
We're the god, guys serious like your and vandals
will suck you right off.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Oh my God, okay, I don't kink.
Shame, I'm into that shit, fuckit real.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I was trying to prove a point and you derailed me
again.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
So now it's going to sound like I'm just spouting off
nonsense and then nothing afterit no, no, it's a point where
you know, I mean, I mean my dadwas here when the fireplace
thing happened, so he saw it.
Yeah, he saw it.

(49:51):
There's three people whowitnessed it, and then you know
it's.
I still think, dude, I stillthink it's fucked up, though,
that he's got a picture of hisfucking girlfriend right where
my mom died, right right in CPRon her.
I mean that is fucking no classman for the dead.
You know, I mean that's fuckedup.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
And it could be a reason maybe.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Right, I mean, if you knew my mom, fucking hell, have
no fear Like a woman's scornedand she'd be like, and she, oh
my god, she'd take fucking heads.
Fucking.
She was not a nice woman so aw,aw well
you know it's it's part of mystand up.
Honestly, it's you know, it'slike you know.

(50:36):
I'd say you know, the reasonwhy most of us are comics is
because we've got mommy issuesright.
My mommy issues right, my mommyissues.
My mom died in my arms January8th.
The crowd goes oh, I was likeno, I was trying to kill that
bitch.
What are you talking about?
Okay, yeah, me, and my mom hada fucking special relationship,
so yeah, I understand, I get it,yeah, zach.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
John.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Why are you not?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I don't, I don't know , I just I like listening, I'm a
listener, I really like it'svery, very interesting.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
It is part of co-hosting, though, is to
co-host, not be a spectator.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I just it's hard for me to say that because I've
never experienced anything likethis like, um, maybe I've had my
tv turn off and on.
That's probably about it.
I like I really have neverexperienced anything like that,
so like I'm just taking it allin trying to look for signs.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Now I'm trying to try to find what happened to him
doesn't mean it's going tohappen to you.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I know, maybe I want it to happen to me especially
the molasses you want to be good?
Yeah, I want to be.
It's been a while.
It's been a while.
I'll take a ghost oh, there wego.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, of course another thing.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
I don't know if you guys can do this or not, but
today is my birthday.
I turned 50 years old today.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Oh happy birthday.
When this comes out it'll betwo weeks after your birthday,
but still, I mean happy birthdayanyway, Belated there we go.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Thank you, belated.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
You're not 50.
He said 50.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
It's 50 years old man , 1975.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
I'm old as dirt son.
Yeah, well, I mean you lookalright for 50?
.
I know I'm jacked and juicy asfuck, bro, so let's Okay.
So you said you almost died.
Yeah, Maybe there's apossibility.
You got some of the ectos stuffon you and you know they're.

(52:46):
They're so how.
There's a reason for thisquestion.
How are you feeling physically?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
uh, today was, it was a is a pretty rough day.
I'll be honest.
Um, I was at work today and Ihad to tap out at work.
I, I, I feel, I really feellike hammered dog shit, man.
Um, it's, uh, this is mybecause of my cancer and what's
going on.
I, I, I, it.

(53:17):
It's taking a toll on me, man,it really is.
It's hard to explain, but it'sthe chronic fatigue, the chronic
pain.
It sucks, man, it really sucks,sorry.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I was like you know, seeing where you were, because
you know if you're hingingtowards that side again or
whatever you know they might be.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
You know your paranormal activity might boost
up a little, yeah, yeah, and Iget that, and I do get it.
And like I didn't realize I wasthat close to death and I
remember it was just like likeeverything seemed like a fever
dream and and it just feltreally sick and I'm just like,

(54:07):
oh god, you know, it's like god,they can't, you know.
Then when I went in, then theyfucking uh.
When I went to the er, they'relike they immediately rushed me
into the fucking icu and shit,and it was like, yeah, you're,
you're not my potassium, andeverything was all fucked up.
I was a total renal failure, um,a major infection in the lungs.
I'd fucking uh because, um, so93% of my bone marrow is

(54:31):
cancerous.
And then I have lesions on mybones which made them brittle.
So I had a broken sternum,three broken ribs and broken
ribs and I've got compressionfractures in my t4, t5 and t6
vertebrae now, um, which whichthey're not healing.
So I'm literally just fucked upon buckets of dilaudid.
Uh, yeah, I'm it's.
It sucks because it's it'staken away a lot of things I

(54:52):
want to be able to do like I'vebeen able to do stand-up in a
long time, because honestly, Ijust I don't, I don't feel like
laughing man, you know, becauseit's's just I'm just dragging,
but so yeah, I mean that's kindof where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Well, hopefully it turns around for you.
It will.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
It, will I go in for a bone marrow or stem cell
therapy replacement here inOctober.
That's either where I'll diefor real If I get an infection
during that time I'll die orI'll get better after that.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
It's not the 50-50.
You just gave yourself a 50-50,essentially, yeah, I don't
think it's quite 50-50.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
I think it's 60-40, honestly.
You just gave yourself a 50, 50essentially.
Yeah, yeah, I don't.
I don't think it's quite 50, 50.
I think it's 60, 40, honestly.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
So that's um, but I will say our scene does miss you
.
Everybody asks about you, weall miss you around here.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
You know, and I and I do miss it, man, cause it was
like I, because it was like Ilove everybody, you know, and I
mean, dude, I love, I love thecomic circle, I love everybody.
It was great, the camaraderie,the brotherhood, and it's just I
.
Just it's like our open micshere are on Wednesdays, or they

(56:16):
were on Wednesdays, and that'sthe day of my chemo.
And, dude, after I get donewith chemo, I can't even fucking
move.
So that's why you haven't seenme, because I've been doing
fucking chemo.
I'm home fucking retching myguts out and fucking feeling
like horseshit Gay.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
You're a buff dude, you're a big guy.
You'll kick his ass.
I'm sure you have nothing toworry about there.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Yeah, I'm super positive about it too.
I'm honestly blessed that thishappened, because it's brought
my family together closer.
My relationship with mychildren is so much better now.
Honestly, you'll never hear thepoor.
Woe is me, god, why did thishappen to me?
Fuck it, man.
I'm here for a good time, not along time.
Fuck it right there you go sothat's a good philosophy yeah, I

(57:08):
mean, you never hear me bitchand whine about it.
You know I hate those fuckingpeople.
It's not fair.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Well, shut up, you know so you know, one thing I do
like about you is you're alwayspositive and you're always
happy.
Every time it's even like rightnow, like you're probably in a
lot of pain, very tired, youcome out here with a lot of
energy, high spirits.
We love.
That's what I love about you,thank you, I appreciate that so,

(57:35):
yeah, I'm all about the toxicpositivity, brother it almost
had a h Hulk Hogan impersonationthere right, I know brother,
brother, brother.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Alright, so just a standard haunting question, and
then we'll start wrapping stuffup with you so what is the
scariest thing that's happened?
Rank them all Like literallyscariest.
Like you hope it never happensagain and if it does, you're

(58:16):
gone.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Scariest was that fucking radio being thrown down
the stairs.
It came down with vigor.
Vigor, I'm telling you it waslike smash.
What the fuck was that?
The waking me up part is kindof cool.
Honestly, you know it doesn'tbug me one bit.
But yeah, I think the radiothing was probably the fucking

(58:40):
spookiest.
That's that.
That's the first time there'sever been like some negativity
with it and how much more thanthat are you willing to go
before you're gone?
well then, if it's justfollowing me around, I can't get
rid of it, can I?
I mean, that's the point.

(59:00):
So, um, I don't know, I don'tknow, it'd have to be a lot.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I don't know so there you go.
Otherwise, just keep it cooland try to ignore it.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Yeah no, no, just you know.
No, I don't know about ignoreit, but acknowledge it like hey,
cool, hey, thanks a lot,brother.
You know, I mean, I'm not, I'mnot gonna ignore it, that don't
apply, just piss it off more,you know so.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
And then I started thinking like, if it's, if there
is an entity and it wants toget a rise out of somebody, like
, hypothetically, do somethingfor your reaction, so like you
know they'll do something.
And if you go like you justignore, it doesn't happen, he's
gonna do something else, or itwhatever he's gonna do something
else to make sure that yourecognize and you know what I

(59:46):
mean.
Like pay attention to it.
And yeah, dude, I think I, Ithink that's what you got,
something that's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
That's just trying to get your attention and hold it
yeah, and from from my, from myexperience, from watching ghost
adventures and stuff you knowall that experience and stuff I
truly do believe it is a demonand you're living at a hellhole.
A portal to hell um, I reallydo believe that.

(01:00:18):
Um zach bagans speaks to mesometimes.
I just truly believe that'swhat he would say.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I knew, honestly, I knew the moment you said all my
experience watching GhostAdventures.
I knew right then it was horseshit.
There was something horse shitabout it, because there was no
way You're not learning anythingother than to be dramatic.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Hey, didn't that guy's wife just fucking try and
contract to get him taken out?
No Well yes, what?

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
No, not Zach Baggins' wife.
Okay, so this is crazy.
We're going to get into Zachyhere for a second.
So this Zach Baggins cheated onfucking Holly Madison, playboy
playmate.
He cheated on Holly Madison.
She didn't give it up to butt.
That's why playboy playmate hecheated on Holly Madison.
She didn't give it up the butt.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
That's why, oh boy, when the red rivers flow and
take the dirt road home that is,70% of our listeners are women,
so let's hear that, ladies,give it up the butt.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
You may not stick around.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Oh wow, I'm most definitely getting shadow banned
.
Do they do shadow bans onpodcasts?

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
I'm sure if they did.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Scalarius would be the first one.
I don't know, just throw it outthere, that'd be the luck.
Okay, okay, so know, I'm justthrowing out there, that'd be
the luck.
Uh, okay, so we're gonna, we'regonna finish this up, because I
, we can't go into discussingthat anymore I apologize.
I didn't mean to ruin yourpodcast no, you didn't, you put

(01:01:58):
the, you put the podcast rightup the shitter.
See, I did it too.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
No pun intended no pun at all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Oh man, it's been good I need to be brown.
You know, I thought thistwo-episode arc with you that's
what it is a two-episode arc.
I thought this two-episode arcwith you Was going to be fun.
It's not fun.
You're offensive.
Last week with the midgets andnow this you brought up the

(01:02:29):
midgets.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
I said little people, you said the midgets.
That was not me.
You brought up the offensivepart.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
The offensive part when you said they were human,
like Holy fuck, that's not whatI meant up the offensive part or
little people.
The offensive part when yousaid they were human-like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Okay, that's not what I meant I was high, okay,
that's better Human.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Now I have to one way or another.
We're going down, but we'regoing to go non-swinging.
Alright, shane, if anybodywanted to contact you and see
anything you're doing, or talk,just chat, or give you some good
prayers and thoughts orwhatever, where would they

(01:03:16):
contact you at?

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
well, I'm on Facebook under Shane Thede and I got
Instagram under Shane Thede, soI got Instagram under Shane
Thede.
That's about it.
I'm kind of the basic guy.
I was putting some of my stuffout there for a little bit, but
I kind of stopped.
I need to start doing that somemore.
I need to refine my bit alittle more.

(01:03:38):
I think the stuff that's outthere is a little old.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
I think I've improved quite a bit since then, so yeah
, well, I mean, it's okay, Ihave stuff on the internet I
don't want people to see.
So there's.
Actually I was.
I was in a movie and shut up,it wasn't a porn, I could just
see zach.
He's getting ready to dowhatever.
But I I was in a movie andthere was a clip of said movie

(01:04:05):
that that's on youtube, and inthe movie, essentially, I was uh
telling jokes, but I wastelling jokes to like a dead
crowd, like they weren't likewhatever.
So this clip is on there, metelling jokes and nobody
laughing oh, nobody at all.
And I'm like, damn it, why isit?

(01:04:26):
And I you search up john olsencomedy and it's one of the, it's
one of them on there and I'mlike, oh man, that's bad.
You know what?
I mean it looks like it lookslike I'm in a club, I'm doing
what I do, whatever, and it'sjust there's no one and it's I'm
like, oh my god what's funny isif you google my name okay,

(01:04:47):
yeah, uh, so I I've been trying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
I was gonna originally try and hide that
I've been to prison and I was aconvict and shit.
But I did a podcast for drbrian king and now you google my
name.
It's like you know, convictpicked a comic, you know.
It's like it's all.
It is like two pages worth ofshit.
I'm just like, well, I guessthat secret's out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I'm like thanks, dr brian king, appreciate you so
let's talk about that for asecond before we go.
It like just for dr brianking's podcast podcast, what's
it called?

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Traveling or On the Road with Dr King, I believe.
So he's a comic from, I think,out in California and he travels
around and he does publicspeaking posts about stuff about
how comedy or levity helpsstress, Right, he did something
here at the Mayo Clinic and hesaw me at Goonies one night and

(01:05:44):
he said, dude, you want, you gotto be in my podcast.
And so I went and did a podcastin his hotel room and you know,
uh, I'd only been doing comedyfor like three months, so so
it's kind of cool and it's uh,you know it's, I think it's his
third most watched podcastactually.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
That's badass.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
It's a good topic If people want to listen to it.
It's Dr Brian King's podcast.
Just look up from convict tocomic.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
You'll find it.
That's pretty cool.
That's old school.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Man, give it a listen , you and you'll find it.
So that's pretty cool.
That's all cool.
Man, give it a listen, you hearanother side of the story,
right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Definitely, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Yeah, it's not paranormal stuff, but it's
probably just as scary.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Yeah, or just as funny Either way, I mean,
there's nothing funnier thanprison sex.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Oh my God, All right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Well, this is the time of our show where we do our
little fun, this or thatsegment, and yeah, just two
questions.
Well, it's a question, you havetwo answers, just choose which
one you would do.
All right, anyway, zach, I'mgonna do the thing to you that I

(01:07:08):
do, the dw, and that is do youhave a this or that for shane?
I?
do not oh well, I guess I'mgonna have to it.
Subpar this or that right there.
There we go.
Alright, shane, I like foodquestions.
I always start with foodquestions, and there's no better

(01:07:31):
way to start today than justwith breakfast.
Shane, do you like your eggsscrambled or over easy?

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
I like them sunny side up Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Over easy.
There you go.
Alright, cool.
If you were to have to choose ameat for your breakfast, for
your eggs, would you choosesteak or ham?

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Ooh, probably ham.
I like steak a lot, but I thinkham is more of a breakfast food
.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
I can't mix them either, I do.
People are like you want to gofor steak and eggs.
I'm like no, why Steak dinner,eggs, breakfast.
But you can have about like youwant to go for steak and eggs,
I'm like no, why no?
Steak dinner, eggs, breakfast.
But yeah, but you can havebreakfast for dinner.
But you can't do it the otherway around, unless it's pizza
okay, I agree, donuts or bagels.

(01:08:39):
Bagels all the way, not a donut.
Well, it depends.
I mean Donuts or bagels.
Bagels all the way, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Not a donut guy.
Well, it depends.
I mean, donuts are just sosweet, man, I'm more.
You know, I'm one of thosefucking weightlifting fruitcakes
where I map my macros and shit,so I mean fucking donuts like a
cardinal sin.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
There you go, and plus bad cholesterol, and if
you're lifting weights all thetime, you need good cholesterol
yeah yeah, okay, all right.
Well, we're done eatingbreakfast.
Now we're gonna hit the roadand on the road like would you
rather drive a truck or a car?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Ooh, I prefer a car, but I drive a truck right now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Would you rather drive or fly?

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
I'll fly all the way, definitely.
Yep, I'm all about gettingthere quick man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
And if you were going somewhere, would you go to
wonderful Las Vegas, nevada orNew Orleans during Mardi Gras?

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Oh, I'd go to Vegas.
I got family there.
Man, my uncle, believe it ornot, was the one who used the
forensics expert for the LasVegas Police Department and he
did the autopsy for tupac's core.
Yep, what, yep, yep, actually.

(01:10:12):
Uh, he's retired now from theforensics department of the
north las vegas policedepartment.
But uh, the tv show csi.
He is the Grissom character andit's actually based off of him.
But he's supposed to getresiduals from a TV show but
they wound up fucking him out ofit somehow.
But yeah, he's kind of coolbecause when I was in high

(01:10:33):
school I'd get evidence bags andmarkers and labels and shit.
I'd take it to, I'd have mylunch in evidence bags.
That's pretty cool.
People thought I was crazy.
That's badass.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Okay, well, would you like to go to Disneyland or
Universal Studios?

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Probably Universal.
Disneyland is just like littlekids with teacups.
Man universal's got some coolshit yeah, I've been to
universal.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
It's so fun.
I I agree universal is waybetter than disney.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
I've been to both and 100 I mean I'm not like like a
disney lover or anything likethat, but I I did enjoy my time
in downtown Disney because thereyou could like drink and party
and whatnot.
That was fun, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Well, I've never been in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
You know I did when I was a kid, I did.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
I did when I was a kid.
Universal Studios did the tourand the Jaws thing.
I did that back in the day, butI haven't been to Universal
Park at all.
Okay, well, I don't know.
Shane, I just want to say thankyou for coming on, thank you

(01:12:04):
for having me.
You're welcome.
You did have some prettyinteresting stuff happen to you.
I mean obviously log it orsomething, and if you need
people, there's people we knowthat you can get in touch with
that could actually come out andcheck it out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Yeah, if it keeps happening, I'll be the game for
that.
That actually sounds prettycool.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
That might give you some answers, maybe
scientifically or whatever.
Not being a smartass, I'masking for is there high-powered
power lines by you at all?
Yep, that I know of, no, andthat I know of no, okay, no,
because we have some like rightoutside, like legitimately, like

(01:12:52):
if you go outside you can hearlike oh yeah, are you?

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
yeah, yes, okay all right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
So there's some energy here.
You know what I mean and that'swhat I said like yeah, we have
sporadic activity that I feel iscaused because of that energy.
That's what I was saying.
Like if you had high, if youhad power lines near you that
were like high power, that maybe a reason for your activity,
but if you don't, I think itmight just be for your activity

(01:13:25):
but if you don't, I think itmight just be anyway, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
So it's kind of fucking just a normal old
farmhouse or our you knowfarmland.
I believe it was at one time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
So damn well.
Thanks for coming on.
Your story is awesome.
Really greatly appreciate it,zach, you know what.
Thank you for your time thatyou have volunteered over the
last couple weeks here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I appreciate you having me on.
I've really had a lot of fun,even though I'm probably never
going to be back on,unfortunately.
Well, I don't know you werehinting at.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Maybe you'll be the Jay Leno to DW's Johnny Carson
Guest host.
Guest host a few times and thenone day you'll steal it away
from David Letterman.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Alright.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Alright Again, thank you very much for doing this for
the last couple weeks.
Shane, thank you again forcoming on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Thanks for having me.
I appreciate it.
I like the Schirmer story.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
You're very welcome, all right.
Well, you know what that means,zach.
You know what that means.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
I do know what that means.
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Alright well, you know what that means, Zach.
You know what that means.
I do know what that meansAlright well.
That means that you guys havebeen amazing, we have been
Scalarius and we are Out Later.
Thank you.