Ep. 82 Journey Through Dimensions: Psychic Medium June Edward

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Thanks for watching what's going on.

(00:31):
This is scolarius, I am johnolsen, and with me, as always,
is dw, the duchess, the woozle,wuzzle, serene Dang it.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Oh my gosh, I really screwed, that up Hang on your
first time back.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm sorry, I'm out of practice.
All right, that's okay.
How?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
was your hiatus.
It was good, well, so it's.
The reason I had to take ahiatus is it's been very, very
busy around here.
We've had a lot of parties andcelebrations and trips and other
stuff.
So the reason I missed lasttime was just that it happened

(01:21):
to coincide with when we usuallyrecord.
So it's been busy, it's beenfun.
So, yeah, and you've taken anunplanned hiatus.
I don't know how much you wantto elaborate on that.

(01:42):
I'll leave it up to you.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I mean we, yeah, so there's something you know, um,
I don't know so my mom got hurtand uh, when she got hurt, she,
I mean she almost kicked it.
I mean it was close, like if,uh, ironic she got up in the
middle of the night, uh, shewent to go use the restroom or

(02:10):
something and uh, she likepassed out.
And she passed out, she dropped, she hit her head, um, also
broke her hip, um.
With that being said, she laidthere several feet away from a
phone, several feet away fromanything, and nobody could get a

(02:34):
hold of her and whatnot.
And it went on for about 33hours before she was found.
And she was found.
She's OK, I mean she's not, butshe's, she's, she's okay.
Uh, I mean she's, she's not,but she's okay, she's alive.
Um, yeah, she seems to havemost of her faculties with her.

(02:54):
Uh, you know all that stuff,you know, but yeah, it was, it
was a different ordeal.
Uh, we got stuff, uh, uh,recorded out of, uh, well, I
mean, as on the scolarius front,we got stuff recorded out of
time and whatever else, but we,we did get things done, but yeah

(03:17):
, so she's, uh, she, she'srecovering, but I, I mean you
know, so yeah, so good to knowthat she's all right.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But that's a good segue to.
I actually did listen to lastweek's episode and happy to hear
that things were able tocontinue on.
I just for the record, ifanyone has a chance to see Zach
live, he is really funny.
I'm jealous.

(03:53):
He's one of those comediansthat can just talk about his
life and it's hilarious.
He's worth it if you ever get achance to see him.
He did a good job of filling in.
Um, I did uh appreciate hisimpersonation of me and I

(04:13):
thought it was hilarious thathis impersonation of me is me
saying to you I don't like yourimpersonation of me yeah, that
was, that was brilliant.
I uh, I loved that so.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
So a couple firsts, then, obviously, I hosted the
show without dw yeah and uh, acouple actually, but it's okay,
we got them all out but and youactually listened, so I mean
that is pretty and like, likeyou said, I I listened to it

(04:48):
because I wasn't on it.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I, I cannot hear myself.
Um, it's part of why I?
I was a recording artist for awhile.
I had to stop because Icouldn't edit my own music, I
couldn't listen to it anymore.
So, um, I, I can't hear my ownvoice.
I can't see myself.
Watching videos is even worse,um, but yeah, I listen to it.

(05:12):
But also because and we talkedabout this like when I don't
know about you, but when I'mperforming in a show, doing
stand-up, I always like to seewho's ahead of me, who's in the
show ahead of me, because I feelyou need to acknowledge what
just happened.
So, if something monumentalhappened with the comic in front

(05:32):
of you, I feel like you can'tignore it.
You can't just continue on andpretend nothing happened, right,
um, because the audience saw itand, in this case, the audience
heard it.
So I, in this case, theaudience heard it.
So I feel like I have to.
I had to listen to last week soI could, you know, be on the
same page as everyone else.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well, I mean, it got hairy, not hairy, but it was.
It was funny, mr.
You know, not being offensivewas very offensive.
I was like, yeah, I mean okay,like I said, if I'm gonna be the
moral high ground here, thenthat's probably not not the uh,

(06:18):
the best, but no, it did well uhI think um.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I haven't had anybody complain yet.
So yeah, yeah.
Um, I think it might beinteresting.
Some week we should maybe trythe three of us together.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I think it'd be fun.
I will.
We'll bring it back on, I'msure for sure, sure yeah special
.
You got to remember.
We're inching in on 100episodes and the hundredth
episode has always got to be abig, good episode, right?
Not like any of the other onesare bad.
I'm just saying, like thenumber 100, that's amazing.
You know, that's a lot ofpodcasts don't last past three,

(06:58):
a whole lot more.
Don't last to a hundred.
You know what I mean.
So we're getting there only afew weeks away.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
So yeah, we should, we'll, we'll have them back.
And also if scheduling you knowwe have been doing this thing
where if, in terms of scheduling, if something doesn't work out,
we usually double up the weekbefore.
Um, but if it's only me thathas the scheduling conflict, now
we know we've got a backup andmaybe that should be our plan B.

(07:29):
You never know there might be acouple of backups, yeah, and who
knows?
It depends on you know when itis what, if it works for him,
stuff like that.
So there's a lot of things thatneed to align.
But point being, zach, you dida great job and I think we'll
we'll have you back for sureabsolutely.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I think you did amazing too.
I really did um.
Did you miss me, dw?
Okay, well, at least that's youknow, and that's the other
thing.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Listening to the episode, I forgot how boring you
actually are.
And oh my gosh, it's just.
A derailed train has moremomentum than the way you talk.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's, that's not true , that is no, it's not listen.
By the way, it's diet pepsitoday, you jerk listen and, by
the way, it's diet pepsi today.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
You jerk so to our listeners.
Kudos to you if you can listento john.
Oh my gosh, I don't know howyou do it, because welcome back
dick.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, um nice, I yeah okay, cool.
Well, I mean you can listenthat you listen to me, or maybe
you want to find me and I knowpeople who have and they've said
really mean things to me.
But you can find me, but firstyou need to find dw.

(09:02):
You find dw, dw, serene,comedian on facebook.
You find me, john also comedian2.
Comedian on Facebook.
You find me, john also comedian2.0 on Facebook.
You can find us both togetheron Facebook but we're not a
couple.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Oh, that was great.
Even Zach stuck up for me andpointed out that we're not a
couple, even though I wasn'tthere.
That was thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh my gosh, I need to make that clear.
We are not a couple.
You can also find us on ourTikTok page, which is Scalerius8
, and also Instagram, at guesswhat it was.
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(09:40):
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You know, when you're doing allthat stuff I'm sure you're

(10:03):
probably like, hey, you know DWand John, they're pretty nice
guys, they're cool.
We like to listen to John,especially during those shows.
But, like, if you want to likereally act, like you're really
cool with us, you can go tocrowdmadecom forward slash
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(10:24):
get our merch, DW.
What kind of merch do we have?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
We have pet bowls, we have collars, leashes, we have
sweatshirts, t-shirts, hats,hats for the winter, hats for
this time of year.
We have ghosters, which is whatwe call coasters.
They're coasters of ghosts, sothey're ghosters, which is what
we call coasters.
They're coasters of ghosts, sothey're ghosters dw, what's your

(10:50):
favorite t-shirt?
Oh, it's obviously the.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Uh, I don't know who john olsen is okay, that's,
that's very, which is actuallyone of our uh best sellers and
I'm very sorry, my own queenconsort has that shirt, uh,
which I said is both I.
I don't know what she's, it'sshe's being, I think I think
she's.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think it's just insurance that if something were
to happen she would be likehe's not with me and I've got
the shirt to prove it.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
So well, let's hope, that don't happen oh dw, what?
oh yeah, I know we were going inthe crowd made and everything.
And yes, you can buy shirts.
You can buy the old cripershirt that's my favorite, or you
can buy my shirt.
You can buy the, the pet bowls.
You can buy the leash, thecollar.
You can use those for your dogor cat or hamster guinea pig or,

(11:44):
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Forward slash collections.
Forward slash sclarious pod.
Uh, one thing.
And then we got to get into.
We have a guest today, dw, youknow, I didn't only bring you on
, I brought somebody else on too.
But hear me out, I feel and Ieven brought it up to the queen

(12:08):
consort okay, that myself andher should reenact Jim and Pam's
wedding.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, with the whole shebang, the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
That means even the, the maid of the mist.
Uh, I don't know about that,but like, yeah, that one's gonna
be a little rough.
It would be us out outside in a, in a kiddie pool, with a
little boat there, and thensomebody's like spraying water
on it.
No, but I but I felt like forour wedding we should do Jim and
Pam's wedding.
I just think it'd be reallycool.
You can't tell me, being in theentertainment industry, that we

(12:56):
don't have people that wouldact like Kevin and Oscar and
Michael and Angela and all thosepeople that would do any and
all.
I'm just saying I think it'd bea whole lot of fun.
What?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
do you think it?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I mean it'd take a lot of work, but uh, it could
work, yeah, yeah well, I'll tellyou what we'll, we'll, we'll
table this and we'll ask ourguest about it, because our
guest today, okay, not, not onlyis she a psychic medium, uh,
she's an author, also arelationship expert.

(13:32):
See, see, the whole jim and pamwedding, me being the yeah,
yeah, all that we can, we cansee what we can do there.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen,welcome on june.
Edward, june, how are youtonight?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I'm doing great.
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
You're very welcome.
This is pretty amazing.
We're going to give thelisteners a little peek behind
the curtain here.
Our pre-show chat, like rightbefore I hit record, brought up
some really cool stuff about youand both myself and DW were
like hey, like hey, stop, weneed to talk about this show.

(14:07):
So, um, first, like I said,you're a psychic medium, uh, but
what got me was, I guess, yourintroduction into the paranormal
, and that was because you werean investigator with who now?

Speaker 3 (14:29):
um.
So tony spera is the son-in-lawof lorraine and ed warren, and
I was working with one of hisgroups for a little bit wow,
nesper yeah, um, I'm sorry wasit nesper?
Um, no, actually okay hisname's eluding me at the moment,
but I think tony had me gothrough the museum and, um you

(14:53):
know, tell him about a lot ofthe artifacts and things like
that too, which was wow, so you,uh you came face to face with
annabelle huh um, I actually didum an event with him in
connecticut at that, annabelle.
Huh, I actually did an eventwith him in Connecticut at that.
Annabelle was there and very,very dangerous, very dangerous.
I have to laugh because there'ssomebody on Facebook going

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around different countries orsomewhere with a raggedy Ann
doll claiming it's Annabelle.
If there's no way he would letthat out of the case.
No way, it's way tooelle.
If there's no way he would letthat out of the case.
No way, it's way too dangerous.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
When I was there it actually shifted.
So we were all having ourpictures taken next to it and I
noticed that one of the girlsfrom California that was there
had her picture taken rightafter me and the doll had moved
like a quarter turn when no onewas looking, the whole position
of the doll was off.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Jeez, that thing is crazy.
Obviously, dw, have you seenany of the Conjuring movies,
anything like that?
Any of the Annabelle?
None, no, wow, you should watch.
I'll tell you what, dw.
You should watch that because Ithink me and you are going to
do an episode on the Warrens, soyou should probably watch the

(16:10):
conquering stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'll tell you you look in the case and you can
literally see demonic facesinside the case.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I was going to say it's horrible.
What are your honest I?
I mean obviously you saidhorrible.
So what did you pick up otherthan bad energy?

Speaker 3 (16:29):
yes, big time it's that it's demonically possessed
absolutely no doubt about it.
And it's, and it's got a um,it's got a trove of demonic
spirits in there with it.
It's not just possessed by onespirit, there was many within
the case and that case wasspecially built.
Dan rivera built that case, soit's been blessed.

(16:51):
It's made out of I think he'sused a special wood for it.
It's got the lord's prayer init.
It's got all kinds of stuff tokeep that entity inside of there
.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Wow, yeah, I are, they still is.
Is it still like, uh, still thesame thing, where he's like
don't mock the doll, and I meanso the reality of it is
everything's energy.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Everything in the universe is energy.
You don't play with demonicenergy.
It's that simple.
I mean, they don't have a bodyat this point and they're much
more powerful on the other sidethan they ever were.
Here I was, I used to consultwith um authors and different
people, and there was an authorfrom Canada that was having me
consult on one of the books hewas doing and he sent me

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pictures to look at, and he didnot tell me that these pictures
were from a house in Canada thathad been owned by a sorcerer.
And as I'm telling him on thephone what I'm seeing in these
pictures, I'm literally my eyestarts swelling up and within

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minutes I had a full blown styein my eye that took months to go
away.
Had I known, I would have donea lot more protection than I had
done.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Wow, just to think that it could get you from that
far away.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
There's no boundaries .
This is how psychic mediumswork, right.
Our energy is just goingsomewhere else.
So your soul is you're not thesuit that sits here, you're the
soul inside.
That's pure energy, and yoursoul is way too big for your
body.
So you got some of it in yourbody, some of it's over your
body that people can see andthey call it an aura.

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That's part of your soul, andthen the majority of it is
actually in the lowest level ofheaven, the fifth dimension
dimension.
So when a psychic medium isdoing astral projection, they're
actually sending their energy,their soul, somewhere else,
which is still connected totheir body, so that they can
give you that insight and whatthey're saying.
So you brought up the psychic.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I mean I know I did it in the introduction, but you
brought up the psychic.
I mean I know I did it in theintroduction, but you brought up
the fact you're a psychicmedium.
Tell us a little bit about that.
When did you realize that youwere a psychic and how to go
from there?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
So I was born with a lot of ability.
And when I was a child, youknow, I'd wake up in the morning
.
And you know, first time itever happened, I was probably
about three and I heard someonecalling my name, get out of bed,
thinking it was my parentsgoing to check on them.
And they're fast asleep.
I go back into my bed and Istart noticing faces all around

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my room, scared the heck out ofme.
And you know, as I got older, Iwas seeing people that weren't
really there and I didn't knowthat.
I thought everybody saw them.
So fear is what stops you fromseeing them, it's what stops
everybody from seeing them.
And when I got older, I justknew, for some reason, I was

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never going to be 30.
I knew I was never going tolive to be 30.
And when I was 27, I hadinjured my back when I was 22.
And I knew if I had surgery Iwas going to die.
And at 27, I had no choice butto go in for the surgery.
I told my husband the nightbefore I said listen, I'm going

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to die.
Oh, no, you're just afraid.
I said, no, I'm telling you I'mgoing'm gonna die.
And the night before the surgery, I had an MRI done with a
contrast dye and I told them Ithought I was allergic to it.
I'd had it once before and Ihad a very bad reaction.
I couldn't get off the tableand they told me it was a common
reaction.
Everybody has that, nothing toworry about.
And as soon as they injected meI died and I immediately went

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to heaven.
I went to the lowest level ofheaven, which I now know to be
the fifth dimension, and I couldstill see everything that was
happening below.
I could see what they weredoing to my body.
I could see the nurses talkingabout it at the station and the
people in the room behind me.
But then I looked and I startedseeing this full-blown movie

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playing out in front of me.
It was like sitting in thefront row of an IMAX theater and
it was my life review and itwas everybody that had been in
my life, that had brought me joy, had been kind to me and had a
very difficult life, verydifficult upbringing, and they
were just showing me those timesin my life that people cared

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and that were happy for me.
And then I heard someone behindme tell me that it's not my
time.
I can stay if I want to, or Ican go back.
It's my choice.
And I was feeling suchoverwhelming love and such, you
know, just weightlessness.
I'm thinking in my head well,I'm not coming back for my

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family and I'm not going to goback for my friends.
I'm not going back for myhusband.
I can't think of any reasonthat I'd go back.
And then I suddenly realizedthat I had two young children
still.
They were not in my movie and Iknew that they were the biggest
reason that I came here tobegin with and that they brought
me the most joy in my life.

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And as soon as I decided I wasgoing to come back, I was back
in my body immediately wow, yeahand you would think that at
that point in time things wouldhave changed as far as my
abilities go, but I was stillafraid of them.
You know, when we're in thisbody, we have a brain.
Your brain not only is acomputer processing all your

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stuff, but it also has aspecific job.
Your brain's job is to protectyou.
How does it do it?
It creates fear.
So people make all theirdecisions based on fear.
And I was still living in fearand on fear.
And I was still living in fear.
And you know I did.
I was listening to my soul andnot knowing at the time that

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that's what I was doing andthat's the knowing that you get.
Everybody's had that happen.
They just knew there'ssomething they're supposed to do
and they don't really think itthrough a lot, they just do it
and it works out perfect becausethat's your soul giving you the
direction.
And about 12 years ago now, Iguess, I was going through a
very difficult time period and Iwent to have some Reiki done

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and she recommended that Imeditate.
And the same thing every one ofmy students has ever told me
there's no way I can shut mybrain off and meditate.
It's too hard.
And the first time I went homeand tried, it was like they
kicked the door into the otherside she's ready and I just
couldn't shut it off.
I was waking up again with themall around my bed.

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I was a medical esthetician atthe time and every person that
came into my room I kneweverything there was to know
about them.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
What's a medicalist?
Yeah, esthetician, it's adifficult.
Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Um, we work on skin problems.
Uh, severe acne issues,scarring um those types of
things very cool lesson one istrying to pronounce esthetician,
yeah but it was crazy.
You know the first person thatcame in my room.
I'm like, um, did your auntrecently die?

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And she's like, yeah, how'd youknow that?
And I'm like I have no idea howI knew that.
I'm like, did you just cleanher house out?
She goes yeah, this pastweekend we cleaned the house out
.
I'm like, did you happen tofind one of those sock puppet
monkeys you know from the 1950s?
She goes, yeah, we found one inthe attic.
And I'm like, oh my god, howrandom is that right?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
how does that come to you like?
Do you hear it or do you see it?

Speaker 3 (24:43):
No, it's just there, it's just so.
It's different for everythingand everyone.
Okay, so if I'm bringingthrough your grandfather, I'll
literally see him in 3D standingthere like a person, and you
have to remember that when yougo into the light, speed of
light is almost 300 millionmiles.
A second right that's how fastthey're moving.

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This is why we can't normallysee them, and that's how fast
they're talking most of the time.
So most of the time it's signlanguage.
If they've learned how to slowthemselves down enough, I can
hear them speak, but I can'trepeat it fast enough, so I
basically just let them talkthrough me.
It's very rare when I get onethat can really talk slowly.

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Most of them don't.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
You just blew my mind .
You said that ghosts or spirits, whatever, move at the speed of
light.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
If they've gone into the light.
So no, I don't call someonethat's gone to heaven a ghost.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Right.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
That's a spirit.
They come back and forth.
They visit A ghost is someonethat has died and not gone into
the light, so they're stuck hereand they're still the same
vibration as human beings.
That's a low vibrational entity.
That's what I call them a ghost.
They have the same vibrationthey were as when they were
alive, because they have notgone into the light.

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Big difference.
And then a demonic entity issuch a low vibration that it
literally gives you a sick pitin your stomach, makes you sick
to your stomach.
It's all energy.
You have to feel the energythat's pretty.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
You have a really good grasp on on this meaning.
Like you, you can reallydescribe it in ways that nobody
else has an amazing educationfrom the other side, whether I
wanted to or not okay, so talkabout some of the educations
that I mean.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
So I kept getting contacted by a woman going back
about 10 years ago fromConnecticut whose family had a
demon that was following themaround.
They had moved 10 times ineight years and I kept trying to
find a paranormal group orsomebody up there to go up there

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and help this woman and Icouldn't get anybody up there.
So you know, she's telling meit's attacking her son, it's
biting him, it's attacking hermother.
Finally, I just said fine, Igot Tony's crew from the Warrens
and they went up to the housewith me and it was about a

(27:28):
three-and-a-half-hour ride forme to get there.
It was quite a distance and Ilet them know that I needed to
have access to the entireapartment.
They lived in a three-family.
I said I need to have access toevery single solitary room.
Now, mind you, I usually workwith entities from the light and
angels.
I don't work with demons unlessI absolutely have to, and this
is the first time that I've everdone this.

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So before I did this, I talkedto them on the other side and
I'm like I'm a little concernedabout doing this.
I don't want to say I'm afraid,because I know you'll be with
me, but I'm a little worried andthey're like you have nothing
to worry about, the angels willbe with you, we will all be with

(28:12):
you and we'll go in there andyou'll be fine.
I'm like, okay, so I go upthere and, um, they're recording
it and they've got all theirfancy little pods and all this
stuff.
And we went into the house andthe first thing they did was
show us the son's back.
They lifted the shirt up and wesaw the bite marks and as we're
standing there, another one wasstarting.
I'm like, get them out of thehouse, get everybody out of the
house.
And then I told him.

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I said you know, they're in thebasement.
There's demonic activity in thebasement.
That's where it is.
But there was a lot more goingon in this house.
They couldn't sleep in one ofthe bedrooms, somebody they just
kept getting pulled out of thebed and it smelled like somebody
died in there.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Jesus.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
So we go in the room.
Sure enough there's a guy inthere in his late 20, about 28
years old.
He died in there with drugoverdose and he did not go into
the light.
So when anybody tried to sleepin the room he would yank him
out of the bed.
So when I tried to get him togo into the light, he was afraid
to go into the light because heknew his mother was probably

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there and that she would bedisappointed that he'd let her
down.
And I explained to him thatthat's not the case and I did
call on his mom and he came andhe went right into the light
with her and the smelldisappeared immediately.
Then the middle room had an oldlady sitting in there that they
were a little afraid of.

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It was the daughter's bedroomand they had bunk beds in there
and she's always messing withthe kids.
So I go in there and sherefused to leave and she's just
sitting there and she didn'teven want to talk to me and
she's just kind of an angry lookon her face.
I'm like I'll go back in thereafter.
So I went into the kitchen andI found this little girl,

(29:56):
probably about eight years old,sitting in the bottom of like
one of the cabinets that waspulled out.
And I see this guy pacing backand forth, back and forth, back
and forth in the kitchen andshe's like he's going to kill me
.
He's going to kill me.
So I'm like what is your deal?
And apparently he was a mob hitman in like the twenties and

(30:20):
thirties and this was hisdaughter that was in the cabinet
and she had witnessed him killsomeone and so he's going to
kill her, his own daughter,because she's a witness.
And I'm trying to get him to gointo the light and he's like
what's going to happen?
I've killed people.
What happens when I go into thelight?
I'm like I cannot tell you, Ihave no idea what's going to

(30:42):
happen to you if you go into thelight.
And he refused.
I said well, you can't stayhere, you cannot stay in this
house.
So I was able to get him out ofthe house.
As soon as I got him out of thehouse, the old woman from the
middle room came out.
It was his mother and thegirl's grandmother and she took
the little girl and I movedthose two into the light

(31:02):
immediately.
Then we go down to the basement.
The basement had probably 60 to70 souls there.
They were Irish immigrants.
They came over during thepotato famine.
So what happens with spiritswhen they die is, you know,

(31:27):
energy is collective, okay, andit attracts each other because
we're like magnets, we're alwayseither attracting or repelling.
So they find each other, okay,and this was probably a home
that one of them at least livedin when they came over and when
they passed they were afraid togo into the light and it was a

(31:47):
safe space for them.
So they went back there andthen others found them and that
was a collective.
But the demon was down there andthey were there before the
demon got there, because thedemon came with the family and
the demon was screaming andswearing.
And I'm chasing it aroundaround the basement and I'm

(32:08):
letting it know that you know Icame from the light, I've been
in the light, I'm here with theangels and you know I'm telling
these, these souls, these Irishimmigrants, that they need to go
into the light, that theirfamilies are there, and they're
like well, he told us we'll burnup if we go into the light.
And I'm like no, no, no, gointo the light.
So they formed a line and justboom into the light.

(32:28):
So now this demon's evenangrier at me because he's
drawing energy from these othersouls.
So now we go back upstairs andnow we're going to go up to the
second floor.
We go up to the second floor andhe's still in front of me and
I'm like chasing this demon.
And they're filming this andthey've got recorders on.

(32:49):
And there was a little Italianwoman in the kitchen cooking and
I told her that she doesn'thave to be there any longer
because her family's long gone.
So she went into the light andthen I can hear this demon
snarling at me and growling andswearing.
And I looked at these guys andI'm like, can you hear that?
Can can hear this demonsnarling at me and growling and
swearing.
And I looked at these guys andI'm like, can you hear that?
Can you hear this thing?

(33:09):
And they're like, no, we don'thear anything.
Like, see if the recorderpicked it up.
And sure enough, they turnedthe recorder back and they could
hear it on the recorder.
Now they get scared.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
So then we went into the rooms on the the second
floor I guess it was only a twofamily up and down and, um, it
had like an attic off to theside.
It was a big room and we wentin there.
Same thing it had italianimmigrants in there.
There were probably about 20 or30 of them, and I moved them

(33:41):
into the light and I'm stillchasing this demon.
And now he goes across the hallinto a room and the door was
closed.
Try to open the door.
It's locked.
Now we have to find the lady.
I said I'm like I told you Ineed to get into all the rooms.
She's like well, I can't get inthere.
My daughter has the key.
I said well, I can't get rid ofthis demon if I can't get in
there.
This is where he's going tohide.
You know I can't stay rid ofthis demon if I can't get in

(34:02):
there, this is where he's goingto hide.
You know I can't stay.
You don't know when yourdaughter's coming home.
I said we can't.
So I did a blessing through thewhole house, cleared the house
the best I could.
I cleared the people.
They spoke Spanish and thegrandmother had Alzheimer's and

(34:25):
she was seeing this thing and itwas attaching itself to her
because it was feeding off ofher fear.
So I tried to explain to herthat she can't be afraid of it
and I left her with a cross thatanytime she sees it, she knew
the cross, she knew the rosary.
She was to show it that.
So it would leave her alone andthat was all I could do.
I left them with some sage,some holy water and told them
what to do when they opened thatdoor, and that was the best I

(34:49):
could do.
It did leave them alone forprobably three or four months
and then it was back again andthen they moved again.
But you can't get rid of itunless you have complete access
to get rid of it completely,because it'll run and it'll hide
that's really interesting stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Like you, I don't wow , like I've never had anybody.
First of all, you explain yourpsychic abilities very, very
well.
I mean, they're very detailedin in what you see.
Like we have had psychics andmediums on and ask the question
like what do you see?
And and they're kind of I'm notgonna say vague, but maybe a

(35:30):
little vague and they're justlike, well, we just see.
You know what I mean, but youyou're very everybody's
abilities are different.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
um, you know, my, my abilities are very strong.
There's no denying it.
My abilities are very strong.
There's no denying it, myabilities are very strong.
I can only attribute that tothe fact that I died and came
back.
That's the only thing Icontribute to, because we're all
about vibration and myvibration is still very high
from having been at 300 millionmiles, a second right.

(35:59):
If I could connect quickly, Ican go back and forth between
that fifth dimension at will.
Um, I see angels, um, I seethem, I see, you know.
I mean, I've gone into agrocery store and you know I'm
trained well enough so that whenI'm working it's I'm on and
when I'm not, it's off.
Okay, um, and this, I still seethe things that I see.

(36:25):
I walked into a grocery storeone day and I see the guy at the
, at the doors, coming in, wholooked like, you know, just a
disheveled drunk, and I wasn'tpaying attention to his energy
and I did a double take becauseI wasn't sure if he was an
entity or if he was real.
And he saw me do the doubletake and he's like you can see

(36:46):
me, and I'm like, oh, no, I'mlike yeah, but I'm not working
right now.
He goes, you need to talk to me.
I said I'm sorry but I'm notworking right now, and there was
a display of hot dogs andhamburger buns at the door and
he picked up a package and threwit at me and it only went about
three feet but the poor womanat the register saw this bag of

(37:07):
bread get off the shelf and go.
She's like oh my God, did yousee that?
And I'm like yep, and I justkept walking.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
So when you okay, that's again fascinating.
So when you are off, they stillcome to you.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
So every medium has what's called a gatekeeper.
And he's always right here.
Mine is an American Indian,brave, and he is the person that
if I walked into a room of 300people and I was doing an event,
he would line up the souls onthe other side and tell me who
they're connected with and whoto call on.
Okay, and we're always incharge.

(37:51):
So his direction is that unlessI'm working, souls are not
allowed to come through to mefrom the other side unless it's
an emergency.
And I've only had twoemergencies where souls were
able to come through to me whenI was not working.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
So I happen to be in the shower so was that
disheveled man an emergency orno?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
no, I see them, but he's not able to interact with
me.
He's stuck here.
He's a ghost, he's not comingthrough from the other side.
Got it oh?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
okay, he's stuck here as a ghost.
He's not coming through fromthe other side, got it?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Oh, okay, he's stuck here as a ghost yeah.
So, the first one that was ableto come through with me as an
emergency was a friend of minewho had passed away like a year
prior and I was in the showergetting ready because I was
leaving for vacation.
And I turned around and she'sin my shower and scared the
bejesus out of me.
I'm like what are you doinghere?

(38:45):
And she's like you've got tocall.
You know her, her husband.
You've got to call Steve.
You've got to call Steve.
He's going to kill himself.
And I'm like what she goes into?
He's going to kill.
You've got to.
I'm like you've got to go.
I'm like, okay, so now I'mcatching a plane in a couple
hours.
I don't have time.
It would take me two hoursround trip just to go see him.
So I called him on the phoneand let him know I would be

(39:06):
there Monday morning for coffee.
And then I called him over theweekend again to remind him that
I was gonna be there bright andearly Monday morning.
And when I got there Mondaymorning I sat down and I said
you know, peggy came to see meon Friday.
He goes, yeah.
I said.
She told me you were to try andtake your own life and he
started crying he goes.
Yeah, she went to see mybrother too.

(39:28):
I'm like wow, yeah so that wasan emergency um.
And the second one that came tome was another friend of mine's
, fiance.
He had pneumonia.
He was in the hospital, he wasin the icu, but they told her he
would be fine.
So she went back to work andshe worked in New Hampshire and

(39:48):
he was in Massachusetts in thehospital and he shows up at my
house.
I'm like what happened?
And he's like I don't know whatto do.
He goes.
I went to see Lynn at work.
He goes and I can't get back inmy body and I'm like he goes.
I don't know what I did wrong.
I can't get back in my body andI'm like he goes.
I don't know what I did wrong.
I can't get back in my.
I'm like you didn't do anythingwrong.
When you, when you're so leftto go visit her, like an astral

(40:11):
projection, basically, um, your,your body died, so you can't
get back into it.
There's nothing that he did.
Um.
And that that was difficultbecause now I know he's dead,
she doesn't.
I couldn't call her and tellher.
I had to wait until thehospital called and told her

(40:32):
that was tough.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
So, yeah, crazy stuff I just I'm sorry, I can't get
over how just absolutelydetailed every specific thing
you're saying like it.
It's crazy, it really is.
That is I.

(40:56):
Like I said, we've had dozensof psychic mediums on here and
they've not god bless them notsaying it was bad or whatever,
and, like you said, probablydifferent abilities, whatever,
but they never that fine-tunedwith what they're seeing is
because they are on a differentvibration or ability than so

(41:16):
it's.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
you know, it's kind of like playing a piano, right?
Everybody has psychic ability,everyone has it, and everyone
that's gone through any of mycourses and classes also has
mediumship ability.
As long as you're pure of heart, you'll have mediumship ability
.
If you're doing it for thewrong reason, they're not going
to work with you.
Okay, but it's like playing apiano.
Some people sit down, all theydo is chopsticks.
Other people want to learn itand they'll teach themselves a

(41:40):
couple of songs.
Other people want to do it fora living and they become concert
pianists and they train, right.
And then you have thesix-year-old prodigy that sits
down and plays Mozart, andthat's kind of me.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Wow, so you're like above and wow, that's like
saying you're the Michael Jordanofordan of psychics, are you,
are you?

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I'm.
I'm very grateful that I gotvery well trained um when my
abilities really opened up forme, because otherwise, you know,
you can't be on all the time.
It drives people crazy and thisis with people self-medicate.
They end up becoming alcoholicsand drug addicts because they
can't shut it off.
I mean, when you're waking upin the morning and you got, you
know, 10 people around your bedbecause you know they've been

(42:28):
gotten into your house and theyattracted by your vibration,
it's a scary thing, it's a veryscary thing I don't think
there'll be 10 people around mybed.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
No, not, I'm just saying like, from what the queen
consort has said, I emit somegaseous things like during
mustard gas huh during theevening, you might be attracting
the wrong kind of entity atthat point demonic entities
smell the same way.

(42:59):
Oh wow well.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
I was going to say, if it's so strong that even the
other side can smell it, thenthat's pretty bad yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
That's what she says?
I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I doubt it's that bad , but I know I'm dead.
But gosh, this is unbelievable,that's funny.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
So, ok, obviously you're a kick-ass psychic medium
.
Let's talk about the otherthing.
I know it's different, butmaybe not.
Maybe we could throw someparanormal into this part, and I
know that DW has questions.
So you also say you're arelationship expert, all right

(43:48):
question.
So you also say you're arelationship expert, correct,
all right.
So first of all, what's thebonuses of being a psychic
medium and a relationship expert?

Speaker 3 (43:57):
so I can help people understand why things are
happening in their life.
So, so, first of all, theuniverse will want to offer you
choices.
Right, Everybody thinks theyhave choices.
The universe offers you doorone, two and three.
You take door one.
You go through it, you getmarried.
You have a couple of kids, youget divorced.
Where are you going to be?
In front of door one, two andthree again.

(44:18):
Most people creatures of habit.
They're going to take door oneagain.
They're going to get married.
They're going to have more kids.
They're going to get divorcedagain.
There's five lessons everyonehas to learn for their soul to
advance.
And until you learn that lesson, you're going to keep repeating
the same patterns and the samethings over and over again until
you learn that lesson.
So if you've learned thatlesson, you're not going to take

(44:39):
door one anymore.
You're going to take door twoor door three, and you may still
get married and have children,but it's not going to end in a
divorce the same way the othertwo did, because you learned the
lesson you were supposed tolearn.
Now you want to know what thefive lessons are right.
So the first lesson isself-worth and it's not value,
because that's what other peopleplace on you.
Self-worth is the understandingthat you are so important.

(45:02):
You are the only one of you inthis entire universe.
Okay, You're here for a reasonand you have to learn how to put
yourself first.
It's the most important thingand it's where all the lessons
begin, because if you can't loveyourself first, you'll never be
able to love someone else.
And it's not selfish and it'snot narcissistic to put yourself

(45:25):
first, as society would likeyou to believe.
If you don't put yourself first, you're just not going to be
here to be able to help anyoneelse, Are you?
No it all starts with you and noone else can make you happy.
I can't make you anything.
I can't look at you and say, oh, you have to fall in love with
me.
It doesn't work that way.

(45:46):
You are the only person thatcan make yourself happy, and
when you do that, your vibrationrises and again you'll be like
a magnet and you'll attract morehappy people on that same
vibrational frequency thatyou're on.
Okay, so the second lesson istrust and communication, and you

(46:07):
have to trust that, first ofall, there is a higher power I
don't care what you call itbuddha, jehovah, god, higher
vibration.
There was only one, and whenyou get to the other side, you
will find that there is only one.
You also have to trust thatthere's a plan and that you made
this plan.
So if you don't like somethingthat's happening in your life,
you have nobody to blame butyourself for it, because you

(46:30):
made the plan.
And you did it for a reasonbecause you needed to either
learn a lesson or teach someoneelse a lesson.
This is the reason that we getinto relationships because we
learn our lessons faster on thisside than on the other side,
and faster still withinrelationships.
And relationships aren't justromantic.
They could be your parents,your family, your friends, your

(46:54):
co-workers, your employees.
Those are all relationships.
You're in a relationship with aDunkin' Donut girl if you go
get your coffee there everymorning and say, hi, okay,
everything's a relationship andyou have to be able to
communicate your wants and needsto the people that are in your
life.
We don't know by osmosis whatyou want or what you need, and

(47:17):
sex is just another form ofcommunication.
If you can't trust andcommunicate outside the bedroom,
you're not going to be able totrust and communicate inside the
bedroom.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
DW going to be able to trust and communicate inside
the bedroom.
Dw, well, you're not a couple,remember?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
yeah, that's right, true then we have unconditional
love.
And that is very difficult forpeople, you know.
They get into a relationshipthat's romantic, maybe a
marriage.
They have children, they fight,they're not happy with each
other, they're not happy witheach other, they're not happy
with themselves, and then,forever after, they have hate.
Well, that's a very strongemotion to have and it's not

(47:52):
really the opposite of love.
The opposite of love is reallyfear.
Okay, that's the opposite oflove.
But you have to learn how tolove unconditionally and
understand that that person wasin your life for a reason.
Maybe it was just to have thosechildren, maybe it was a karmic
relationship and they're payinga karmic debt back and giving
you those beautiful children andthat's the only purpose of that

(48:15):
relationship.
And you have to learnunconditional love.
Then you have money and balance, and because everything in the
universe has to stay in balanceyou have the day and the night,
up and down, the yin and theyang, the god and the devil
everything has to stay inbalance, black and white.
You have to.
Money is what we use in this 3Dworld to show if your life is

(48:39):
in balance.
Money is energy.
That's why it's called currency.
So if you're working too manyhours because you're trying to
earn extra money.
Guess what?
You have no time for yourfamily, your friends, your own
hobbies.
Your life is out of balance.
If you're just saving yourmoney, you're not spending it.
Again, your life is out ofbalance.
You can't hoard energy.

(49:00):
It has to flow just like ariver.
The more you put out, the morethat comes back.
You have to understand that noone is meant to live a life of
lack.
You're all meant to live a lifeof abundance.
All you have to do is ask, askthe universe, ask the angels,
ask God.
You will get everything you'veasked for.
And this is where the lastlesson comes in is patience,

(49:23):
because you're going to get itwhen you're supposed to get it.
You're not going to necessarilyget it in your time.
You're going to get it in thetime that it's supposed to come.
Let's say you're eight yearsold and keep saying I want a
house when I grow up.
I want a house when I grow up.
Well, you're not going to get ahouse at eight years old.
What are you going to do withit?
Right, but when that time comes, if you keep saying I want a
house, I want a house, well, ifyou can't buy one.

(49:43):
Maybe you'll inherit one, butthe universe will make sure you
get what it is that you want inthe time that you're supposed to
receive it.
That's how it works, and welive in a world right now of
instant gratification.
Everybody wants everything now.
They don't want to wait foranything, and it doesn't work
that way.
The universe rewards you.
You do the work, you get thereward, and I promise you it

(50:05):
works that way.
I could tell you stories ofthings that have happened in my
life that would totally blowyour mind, and every one of my
students that's gone through myprogram.
I have a seven week onlineprogram called the relationship
mastery program.
Every single one of thosestudents their life has changed
180 degrees.
One of them's like it's likethe Miss America of Columbia or

(50:27):
something.
Now, the stories that I couldtell you of not even just me,
but of the students that havegone through it's incredible.
You know it's like Christmasevery day when you understand
how energy works and how to workwith the universe.
That's the law of attraction,that's that magnet of bringing
things into your life.
Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
DW you said you had questions.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
So well.
Most recently, though, how manypeople have relationship?
You mentioned the five lessons,but how many of them just get
hung up on the first one?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
So the seven-week program teaches everyone all
those five lessons and how tobalance their energy and
maintain that law of attraction.
And there are very few peoplethat have actually done the
seven-week program in sevenweeks.
It usually takes peopleanywhere from 10 to 14 weeks to
do the program.
Because some and there are veryfew people that have actually
done the seven week program inseven weeks it usually takes
people anywhere from 10 to 14weeks to do the program.
Because some people arestubborn and stuck on lessons.

(51:31):
Exactly.
I had one army sergeant whoprided himself in saying he was
my most difficult student.
He was one of my difficult, buthe learned his lessons as well
and he has an amazing life Now.
He lives on a farm.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Wow, so one question we should have addressed at the
beginning.
I'm picking up on an accentwhen are you from?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
it's a combination of massachusetts and rhode island
together I.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I thought I was gonna say boston if I had to guess.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
So it sounded like I think I lost most of boston I
was gonna say no, her, her r'swere still ours.
I mean, they're not as yeah,it's a little bit of a mix it
was definitely there, yeah, soanother thing.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
So to backtrack a little bit, one of the things I
was wondering is you you keeptalking about, um, people going
into the light and you help them.
You, I mean you, you've justbeen saying that you help them,
but exactly how do you do that?
Do you just say it's okay, goahead, or do you?

Speaker 3 (52:47):
So it's different for everybody.
So, for instance, I donate mytime to an organization called
NODA.
No one dies alone.
So if someone is dying andthey're in hospice and they
don't have family or theirfamily can't make it, I try to
get over there as soon as I canbecause I want to make sure that
they go into the light whenthey die.
And you know, other peoplethink they're just comatose or

(53:11):
they can't talk to them,whatever, but I can psychically
have a whole conversation withthem.
So for the most part I let themknow that I've been in the
light.
What's like in heaven.
They don't have to be afraid,and the closer you get to dying,
the thinner the veil, the moreyou see.
So their family is there, theysee them.
Um, one of the last ones that Iwent to, saint Michael is

(53:35):
always in the room, by the way,because he brings everyone to
the other side, to the lightwhen you pass, and he was
refusing to go because he waswaiting for Jesus and I'm like,
well, jesus doesn't usually cometo help you pass over.
St Michael does with yourfamily, but we can call him, not

(53:55):
a problem, and he'll come.
And sure enough, I called himand he showed up immediately and
as soon as he did, thisgentleman went with him into the
light with St Michael and hisfamily.
As soon as he did, thisgentleman went with him into the
light with St Michael and hisfamily.
My mom, when she was dying.
I got to see the rest of hersoul leave her body and we found
out she was adopted by her auntand her aunt, her uncle, her

(54:25):
real mother.
They were all fighting thatnight as to who was going to
bring her into the light andArchangel Michael had been
sitting up on the shelf next tothe television for more than 24
hours waiting for her to pass.
So when it was time for her togo, I just took her hand and I
told her.
I said you know what, mom, it'stime you got to go now.
And she took her last breathand I saw the rest of her soul
leave her body and she went tothe other side with all of them

(54:48):
and they allowed me.
So during the middle of thenight I asked the angel his name
and he told me his name wasMakael, not Michael.
So I looked up Archangel MakaelI never heard of it and the
definition said that it was theangel that brings advanced souls
to the higher realms.
And heaven has been describedto me like a layer cake where

(55:10):
you go to the level based on howadvanced your soul is and your
belief system, so that you'rewith your kind like people, and
each archangel has a soul groupand you reincarnate each time
with that soul group.
So I saw archangel michaelbring my mom to the other side

(55:32):
and go right to my father and mytwo sisters that were already
there.
I am not able to go to thathigher, uh, higher realm in this
body.
I'm allowed to go back to thefifth dimension that I went to
when I died, and that's as faras they allow me to go right now
while I'm still in this body.
But they allowed me to see hergo to the higher realm, which
was nice.
So, yeah, sometimes I have tocall.

(55:55):
You know I've passed a lot ofchildren.
I find a lot of children thatare stuck here because they
don't realize that they're dead,sometimes if they've been sick
and they pass, and they'relooking for their family and
they're looking for their mom,um, so a lot of times I'm able
to call their relatives, theirmom, whoever from the other side
into the light, and they'llcome and bring them into the

(56:17):
light.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
So they're all a little different now, how do you
know it's them, I mean meanVibration.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Wise, like I said, you can tell the difference.
The first time I ever had anangel come through, it happened
to be a choir angel, which isthe highest angel there is.
They sit to the right hand ofGod and I'll tell you, it was
like I was on the other side allover again.
I was on my knees in tears.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
It was the energy was just incredible, just
incredible so you're saying youwere there, when part of your
person's soul can pass beforetheir body.

(57:09):
So their soul has passedcompletely, but their body is
still alive no no okay, no.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
So when you're dying, um, so, as I don't know if I
explained it before, but yoursoul is too big for your body.
So some of it's in your body,some of it's over your body that
people call an aura and can see, and the majority of your body,
of your soul, is in that lowestlevel of heaven, that fifth
dimension, and it has all theknowledge of all your lifetimes
and it has, it orchestrates thetiming of the events that happen

(57:38):
in this lifetime.
So, just like when I'm astralprojecting, if you tell me you
wanted me to go see what yourwife was doing in the kitchen
right now or in the house, and Iwould kind of go into a little
bit of a meditation, a littlebit of a trance, I would astral
project there to see what she'sdoing, because I'd be sending my
energy, I'd be sending more ofmy soul there to see what she's

(58:00):
doing.
So it's the same thing whenyou're dying, more of your soul
is already gone to the otherside or it's out of your body
and less is in your body, justenough to keep you breathing and
keep your vital organs going.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
But it's fear, you know, it's fear that stops
people from seeing it themselves.
When my dad was was sick anddying, he was 93.
And I went to see him one dayand he said I want to ask you
something about what you do.
And I'm like, okay, because hethought it was a big joke.
He goes well.
I want to know why I keep seeingmy mother next to my bed in the

(58:37):
morning when I wake up.
I said well, it's about time,dad.
She's been standing here foralmost a year.
He goes well, that's not really.
I said she's been standing herefor almost a year.
He goes well.
That's not really.
I said she's going to help youwhen it's your time to go to the
other side.
He goes well.
That's not really what I wantto know.
I said well, what do you wantto know?
Well, how come every time whenI wake up, she's only there for
a few seconds and then shedisappears?
I said she doesn't disappear,dad.
I said when you wake up, yourbrain kicks back in and your

(59:00):
brain can't believe she'sstanding there.
So this is why you're notseeing her, if you didn't let
your brain block it.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
You would see her because she's there so another
thing we kind of talked about inthe before we started that I
think we need to address um, howdid you make the uh uh
connection between medium andrelationship expert?

(59:30):
What was the because?
I, I, you know, I said, hang on, don't say it.
Yet how?

Speaker 3 (59:37):
that doesn't seem like, at least maybe to me, a
natural um transition when mostpsychics start out, or mediums
start out, to work their skills.
They do card readings, right,you go to events, you go to
fairs, you do tarot cards, youdo angel cards, you read cards,

(59:57):
um, and everybody kept asking meabout relationships, and one
thing led to another.
And about a year or two aftermy training, I remember sitting
in my living room one day and Ijust heard you need to do a

(01:00:18):
relationship.
Oh, you need to.
You need to do, um, arelationship videos.
And I'm like relationshipvideos, okay.
So I'm now I'm hearing this,that this is what I need to do.
So I hired a full camera crew, Iscripted out 10 videos a video

(01:00:47):
on blended families, one onretirement, one on aging parents
.
I did 10 videos and I hiredthis whole professional thing to
do these 10 videos.
And I have these beautiful 10videos that I'm like now what am
I supposed to do with them?
I don't know.
You told me to do this, I didthis.

(01:01:07):
Now what?
So I'm like, okay, I put themon the website.
I put them on.
I have a relationship group onFacebook.
I put them on there.
I'm like, I don't know what I'msupposed to do with these
things.
So, probably about 10 moremonths passed and then I hear
you need to create arelationship program to help
these people.
I'm like, okay, how do I dothat?

(01:01:28):
And they lead you where you'resupposed to be.
It's just like we were sayingyou know, when the student's
ready, the teacher will appearright.
And they led me to a wonderfulgroup that helped me be able to
make a teaching program.
But I had to do all thetechnical stuff myself, so it

(01:01:51):
literally took me a year to putthe program together, because
there's one program that doesthe application, another one
that does a survey, another onedoes the commercial, another one
that does, you know, theprogram itself itself.
There's all these so manydifferent pieces to put together
.
It took me a year to be able toput it all together, but it was

(01:02:11):
divinely created.
From the other side.
It really was, because if theprogram is done in a timely
manner and in order, peopleshift energetically and then
they balance, and then it's justamazing.
And if they don't do it inorder, it doesn't work.
And if they don't do it in atimely manner, it doesn't work.
They've got to start it overand do it from the beginning,

(01:02:34):
and then they shift and it'sjust incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
John's usually not speechless, but I don't know but
this is where the book camefrom.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
The book came from that program, because everyone
that went through the programhad at least one or more of
those same five lessons.
They had to learn those allfive lessons in order to
completely shift, balance andchange.
And if they were supposed to bewith that person, that person
came right back to them.

(01:03:16):
It was incredible, becauseyou're on the same frequency.
You're on the same frequency asthe people that are in your
life.
Okay, it's like a.
It's like a thread that when wetalk about frequency, energy
just different words for thesame thing and when your
vibration increases, if they'resupposed to be with you on that

(01:03:36):
frequency, their vibration willautomatically rise to meet yours
.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Same frequencies, the people that's it's to be a bad
knob or something that I can't,I don't know.
Same frequency, yeah, I don'tthink so.
So just not in my personal life, because they all run okay.

(01:04:04):
So if we were operating systems, I'd be a windows 8 and they'd
be like a linux or whatever,like your linux.
It wouldn't, it wouldn't begood.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Uh, yeah, not to say anything bad about the people in
my, in my life well, we'retalking about close people in
your life oh, okay, okay peoplethat are close to you in your
life are on that same energeticfrequency and, in fact, you'll
notice that when your frequencyrises, other people drop off.

(01:04:39):
You lose friends that way,because your vibration comes up
theirs doesn't?
They fall away?
Ah, same thing in arelationship, in an intimate
relationship.
If you're not getting along,you someone I only work with one
person in the program theirvibration rises.
If this person is supposed tobe with them, then their, their

(01:05:00):
vibration is going to come up aswell and they're going to meet
and they're going to change soif they're not meant to be, then
the vibration drops off butyou'll also realize that you're
not supposed to be with thatperson.
You'll know that it's a knowingit's the difference between
thinking and knowing and it'salso understanding that you

(01:05:23):
don't want to live in the dramaand the minutiae.
Everything's happening for areason and when two people
aren't getting along, one personis going to continually want to
fight with this one becausethey want the interaction.
That's the whole reason for it.
So when you start mirroringtheir actions and don't fall for
the bait, basically the wholeinteraction changes because your

(01:05:45):
power lies in your actions andyour reactions with people
around you.
So when you change your actions, everything else changes around
you.
The same old thing won't work.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
What does that do for people that, like guys that
were out of nowhere guys youknow what I'm saying when the
wife hits him with divorcepapers and he's not knowing why?

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
doesn't matter.
There is a reason why, and bygoing through the program they
understand the why.
So I mean, I've had so manypeople that reconciled their
relationships because, again,once one person changes, the
other person has no choice butto change, because for every

(01:06:33):
action there's an equal orgreater reaction.
Right, yeah.
So people change because theyhave to or they want to.
They're not going to do itbecause you want them to, but
when you change, everything elsearound you changes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
And once you become the magnet again you draw them
right back in.
I guess that could be.
That's true, I think, dw, haveI changed a lot since you've
known me?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I don't know.
I'm proud to say I don't sharea bedroom with you, so I don't
know how that part has changed.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
You're not the same person you were when you woke up
this morning.
We're constantly changing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
That's true, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
I like that.
Do you have a question?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
dw.
Well, no, I was just gonna sayuh, john was.
John has gone through some bigrelationship life changes in the
last.
Well, I mean met and gotengaged to this person in the

(01:07:59):
last couple of years.
How long ago was your divorce?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Mine.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Five years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
No, that can't be right 2018 it might have got
final in 19, six years ago.
Six years, yeah, I I just, Imean, I'm just, I feel like
that's not all that long to gothrough divorce, basically start
all over, meet someone else andthen get engaged to that person
, you know.
So that's a big life change, soyou know to be fair, that's

(01:08:42):
kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Now I'm looking at that going like, oh, maybe I
jumped up a bunch of levels inin that amount of time, you know
, because think about, like Iwent from being homeless
essentially to living in a hotel, to having a pretty run-down
apartment, to, I mean, that'sjust my living I was.

(01:09:04):
I mean, at one point I wasliving in my mitsubishi, so I
mean there was, there was thatand uh, you know, met, uh, met
the queen consort, slashbetrothed and like I don't know
man.
She literally changed my lifelike a lot and I'm not talking

(01:09:26):
about anything like material, Idon't give two craps about that
shit.
But yeah, meeting her wasprobably one of my biggest life
changes and probably excelledsince then.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Everything happens when it's supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
And in a way, don't you feel?
I guess this is for either ofyou.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
I guess this is for either of you, don't you feel
like as painful and rough asthat divorce was, it changed you
for the better.
So what happens is this whenyou're not making the changes
you're supposed to be making onyour own, the universe steps in
and will have something happento cause that change.
You know, if you're supposed tobe moving out to the West Coast
because you have a job offer outthere and the reality is you're
going to meet the love of yourlife and have six kids and, you

(01:10:20):
know, become the CEO of somecorporation, who knows?
But you're not going becauseyou're in fear of leaving your
friends behind, leaving yourfamily behind.
The universe is going to stepin.
Maybe it's going to burn yourhouse down, maybe it's going to
have you get fired from whereyou're at.
Something's going to happen sothat you end up on the path
you're supposed to be on, and itmight be tragic and traumatic

(01:10:41):
while you're going through it,but hindsight's a wonderful
thing and you'll always see thatsomething good comes out of
something that you seem to befeeling negativity about at the
time and see like I question itbecause I'm like really my the
universe says I'm supposed to bein minnesota.

(01:11:03):
Really how I long for but wheredid you meet her Minnesota?
Wow you're always where you'resupposed to be at any given time
that is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Wow, have you?
I don't think I even know that.
Um, how did if you wanted how?
I don't think I even know howdid if you wanted how much?
I don't know how much you wantto disclose, but how did you
meet your betrothed?

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
So many different stories to this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Well, I'm looking for the one that happened.
It shouldn't be this hard tocome up with, Like if you don't
remember, we're in trouble, youknow.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Well, I remember it, just it sounds bad.
Um, I stalked her endlessly.
Uh no, I don't.
She's not even real guys.
I mean, we just talk aboutnothing.
Um, it was a meat cute, is thathow they say it?

(01:12:15):
Now, the weird meat, what themeat cutes or whatever cutes
what, yeah, not like meat, likeeating meat, like meat, like you
met somebody like right andthey call it a meat.
Cute, I don't know.
June, you're gonna help me outhere.
Do you know they call it a meetcute.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I don't know.
June, are you going to help meout here?
Do you know what a meet?

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
cute is?
I don't remember that term.
Was it a dating site?
I don't know what that is.
No, it wasn't a dating site, itwas a meet cute.
Aw, they met and it's cute.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
That kind of thing.
Did you run over her Quitglossing over the details.
Did she run over you Right?
Did she pour coffee on you?

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
No, it was more like chicken strips.
Yeah, so I was at one point inmy life I was managing a
Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
And she worked in the fast food restaurant.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
I did yeah Waiting for the cute part she got food.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
I'm like, hey, what's up?
She kept getting food, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
She doesn't like chicken.
What?

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Yeah, she loves chicken, by the way, which kind
of takes me.
I don't know if that meansanything.
Now Are you confused?

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Was she there for the chicken or you?

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
It's probably the chicken, to be fair.
Everything's been a lie.
I'm living a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Think about it, think about it, think about it.
If she either didn't have aninterest in chicken and
preferred burgers or tacos, yeah, sure, like if you were in or
if you were at a differentrestaurant yeah, that wouldn't
have happened yeah yeah, ithappens the way it's supposed to
.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
It's always crazy.
My uh first husband, I wasworking in a chinese restaurant
and he was having dinner withhis girlfriend that I thought
was his mother and I was goingto give him my phone number.
My sister's like don't do it,that's his girlfriend.
I'm like no way.
And I happen to have beenworking at another place uh, a
donut shop and the next day I'mworking in the donut shop and he

(01:14:31):
pulls up in his truck becausehe wanted.
He noticed somebody else'stractor, trailer truck there
that he wanted to see and camein and, lo and behold, here I am
wow it's supposed to okay, well, dubs

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
yeah she had a story of meeting somebody that where's
yours so, uh, mine is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
We met in high school band.
Um, I was, and I guess thiscould be why, uh, it worked out
because of I played saxophone,she played flute, which meant we
were on opposite ends of theroom and, could, you know,
exchange glances during practice.

(01:15:19):
Now, and the thing is so here'swhy, back a while ago, I
brought up the divorce thing isbecause we actually did break up
.
We dated other people and thengot back together.
So I, in a similar way.
It wasn't a divorce, but it wasa breakup and I do feel like,

(01:15:41):
as painful as that was, it wasalso necessary.
We both went on, went ourseparate ways and became
different people and met eachother again and got back
together again.
I feel like if we had juststayed together that whole time,
we would not be the people weare today, because we needed to
independently change.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
So that happens more than you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Wow Okay, that happens more than you know.
Wow Okay, so I want to get intosomething.
One more thing.
And then we got to do something.
We got to get some scary stuffto happen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
This went way, not paranormal.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
People are going to be crying.
This is the best show ever.
I learned so much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
I love Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
I'm very excited about my marriage, but anyway.
So you're an author.
How many books have you written?

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
I've written four right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Wow, really.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
This is great.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Are they all about the same?

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
This is my bestseller .
I don't know what's fairinternational love and karma
all's fair and love and karma.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Yeah, oh nice and that was the one based on the
relationship program, yep.
So what are the others then?

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
um a night on the other side is, um, the first
book I wrote and it's everythingthat I used to teach in psychic
development and mediumshipdevelopment classes.
So if anybody wants to work ontheir skills, they can get that
one.
And then Dancing with theUniverse was my autobiography

(01:17:23):
that I wrote, and the DestinyCard Journal was the latest one
that I just did, and that'sactually a journal that you can
put your intentions in, that youwant the universe to help work
with you on new moons, and ittells a little bit about the
Destiny Cards, which isnumerology and astrology

(01:17:44):
combined.
It's a very interesting system.
Very few people read them.
It's your regular deck ofplaying cards which our
Gregorian calendar is based on.
It's very interesting, butthat's another whole show.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
I mean, I don't know.
I was going to say we couldprobably get into it, but then
again people have got to go tobed.
Get up early in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
I'm hitting the plane in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
See, yeah, there you go.
There's that All right.
So, like I said, we had to getinto something spooky before we
finished this up.
So I need to know what's thescariest thing that's happened
to you.
Scariest thing that's happenedto you whether it's been as a

(01:18:34):
relationship coach, whether it'sbeen as a psychic medium,
paranormal investigator what'sthe scariest thing like and how
did you?

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
react.
I used to own a bar and um, itwas haunted.
I'd owned the building for manyyears and when I renovated it
into a sports bar, there was umfull-fledged entity with a
leather jacket that the staffused to see come in the front
door and walk around and thendisappear before they hit the
kitchen and there's no other wayout.

(01:18:59):
Um ended up.
It was a cook that used to workthere when it was a restaurant
before um, but I, in agreementwith him, he was able to stay
because he wasn't dangerous andhe didn't refuse to go into the
light and he was keeping an eyeon the place for me.
But I used to put holy water,dishes of holy water, at the

(01:19:21):
front and back door, the twoentrances, so that no one that
had any evil, you know, anybodythat had demonic energy, any of
that couldn't come in.
They can't bypass the holy waterand one night my bartender saw
an orb fly through and she wasvery sensitive.
So she took her camera out andstarted taking pictures and I

(01:19:43):
have the picture on my cellphone.
She had taken a picture acrossthe bar and you can see the high
tops, you can see the mailboxout the door and then you can
pick out about 14 faces lookingin the window that want to come
in.
There's no bodies below, justall the faces.
Some of them look likeskeletons, one of them looks

(01:20:04):
long hair, looks like Jesus, butthey could not come in because
of the holy water.
But they all wanted to come inbecause there's live music,
there's alcohol, it's everythingthat's there.
When they were alive, thesewere ghosts basically that were
outside into the parking lot anduh, yeah, that was pretty
freaky.
Really freaked everybody out toactually see a picture of them

(01:20:28):
like that that's creepy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
How about, like, have you being a medium and
everything, and I know youdiscussed like you're?
You're walking into walmart anda guy like you know trips on in
, you know whatever.
But have you ever been just inpublic and a ghost other than

(01:20:53):
that guy a?
Uh, a ghost, a spirit orwhatever realizes that you can
see them and they come at you?

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
and no, but I did have when I was first training,
when I I wasn't even trainingyet um, I had gone to a
spiritualist church because Ididn't know how to stop this.
I didn't know how to turn itoff.
Okay, and I was, it waseverywhere and I went on.
I went to Boston to see thiswoman who was speaking at the

(01:21:23):
spiritualist church and she wasa medium.
So, you know, I sit down andshe's like well, what you can do
?
And I'm like I don't know howto do it, it just happens.
I don't know what I'm doingright.
So she's like um, well, bringsome, you know, bring my parents
through, or whatever.
So I brought people through,but the doorbell kept ringing
and she's like ignore that, shegoes.

(01:21:43):
There's a witch that used tolive on the property and she's
banned from the property so shecan't come in.
I said, yeah, I can see her.
She's standing on the side ofthe property right now and she's
banging on pans and she'ssaying get out, get out, get out
.
So when I left, I'm drivingdown the expressway right 128 in

(01:22:05):
Boston, it's worse than 95,it's like crazy.
And all of a sudden I, all of asudden she was just there in my
passenger side seat this oldhag and I just screamed and I
pulled off to the side.
All my papers in my seat wentflying.
I pulled off the side where Ithought I was gonna have a heart

(01:22:26):
attack.
I gotta tell you I just did notexpect that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
That would creep me Like.
I always worry about that, youknow they do?

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
They jump in your car because they can't get any
faster, they can't get aroundthan a human being because they
have not gone into the light.
So they'll get in your car at astoplight and drive to the next
one to hit your ride.
So I tell everybody, have somereligious.
I have a rosary from Jerusalemhanging from my rear view mirror

(01:22:57):
Always.
You know, everybody should wear.
This is a Kundalini symbol,which is a religious symbol.
It's a medical alert.
But I tell everybody'ssomething that they're going to
see, because when you go out toa restaurant or a bar, the ones
that are looking for a bodyguess what?
If you don't have anything on,you may take them home as an

(01:23:19):
attachment yeah I've seen a lotof that

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
that creeps me out, you know, okay, like d, that
usually now, if I'm on the road,dw's with me, which it makes me
like if they're haunting me,they're going to be haunting you
, so that makes me feel better.
But, um, you know, like, Ialways think about that, like
when I am alone, or whatever,driving home from a gig, and
it's like, you know, whatever Ilike, look, I always look in the

(01:23:48):
rear view mirror, you know, andI, you know, whatever I'm like,
look, I always look in therearview mirror, you know, and
I'm like, oh, okay, because Ifeel like, oh, my god, there's
somebody with me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
it feels so weird.
Sometimes it very well could be, you're just not seeing them ah
so, remember, your eyes canonly see because of the shape of
your eye and what the light isrefracting off of.
This is why dogs can see morethan we can, and they don't.
They see in black and white.
There's people that don't seecolor, they only see black and
white.
This is why a camera can pickup things that your eyes can't

(01:24:17):
okay, um I'm colorblind, by theway, not black and white
colorblind, but I, your eyes aredifferent than other people's,
so you may be able to pick up,like I can see that what other
people don't see.
A lot of that has to do with nothaving the fear, but between
that and the shape of your eyeyou may be able to see entities

(01:24:37):
that other people can't see.
But you should always wearprotection, have protection in
your car.
I tell everybody, even in yourhouse have something religious
in every room of your house,because they'll wander in off
the street and if they come inand house, have something
religious in every room of yourhouse, because they'll wander in
off the street and if they comein and they see something,
they'll go somewhere elsebecause they're not, they don't
want the fight, literally.

(01:24:58):
Um, I have a lot of people thatlive in condos that were made
from like old factory buildings.
They're extremely haunted fromthe amount of people that died
in there and you can't get ridof them because there's no way
of saging and protecting thatwhole building and then just
wander from place to placethrough them.

(01:25:20):
It's horrendous.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Actually, that sounds freaking amazing, though I'm
just saying like, wow, they justokay, freaking amazing.
Though I'm just saying like,wow, they just okay, they can
attach, they just go whereverthey want, attached to whoever
they want, whenever they want.
So let me ask you a question.
I've been saying this foreverthere's I have sporadic
paranormal activity in my house.

(01:25:45):
Okay, it's sporadic, it it'snot all the time, like you just
said, which I've had a theoryanyway, considering the fact
that we have these high poweredpower lines next to us or
whatever.
I've had the series that likewhatever is here, whatever is
just passing through, just likegoing whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
It could be different things.
It could be, you know, it couldbe a relative that's trying to
get your attention, or a friendthat's past that's trying to get
your attention.
Um, it could be that you'rejust not paying attention,
that's there more often than youthink.
Or it could be something that'seither attached to the house or
the land.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
It could be many things, many things it's never
been weird, other than you knowweird things or whatever here
and stuff and footsteps orwhatever, but it's never been
anything other than than that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
I mean so far my advice is just to ignore it,
because if you give it energy itmakes it stronger.
Because if not someone justcoming to visit and actually has
an evil intent, then it wantsattention.
So the more energy you give it,the stronger it grows.
So ignore it, that's my advice.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
I feel it's a lot easier to ignore me than it
would be for me to ignore it.
I'm just saying All right, june.
Well, I mean, I don't know.
This has been just incredibleRelationship advice, psychic

(01:27:22):
medium.
You get scary stuff in there.
You're a paranormalinvestigator for, basically, the
Warrens.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
It was Tony, though, though right tony's group yeah,
tony's the one that's runningthe, the warrens museum and
things he has been for years man, you just have a lot of badass
stuff and I I dig it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
It's cool.
One thing we do is let you tellthe people where they can find
you.
So if they wanted to purchasebooks or get ahold of you or do
that, I'm supposed to sayfive-step program, but that's.
But, yeah, you can go to mywebsite.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
My website is my name June Edward no S juneedwardcom
website.
My website is my name juneedward no s juneedwardcom.
Um.
There are links to all my books.
There are probably 30interviews and videos you can
watch if you'd like.
I have a blog.
I haven't put anything on theblog in a while, but there's
some really interesting, scarystuff on the blog, um, and you
can.
You can contact me throughthere.

(01:28:26):
You can book an appointmentwith me if you'd like.
I do astrology, numerologyology, the destiny cards, angel cards
.
If you want to talk to somebodyfrom the other side, that's
past, or you just wantinformation about your own life
and what's going on and what'scoming up, I can pretty much
help you in any area that youhave.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
That's awesome, dw, you're going to call her my, my
relationship's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
I don't know about yours, so, no, maybe we should
have her.
Oh, have her work on ours.
I think she'd say we need adivorce, so we don't need a
psychic to tell us that it'sfunny.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
I couldn't even get it out.
I was thinking it as I was,like I was okay, yeah, I just
started laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Indicator number one the person says they're not a
couple.
That's a good sign that theyshouldn't be a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Maybe, I don't know All right, well, we've come to
the time of our episode that wedo the fun little thingamabob
called this or that.
Basically, what we do is askyou a question and you have two
options and you just do it.
So you ready for this or that?

(01:29:41):
Sure, all right, cool dw.
Yeah, do you have a this orthat this week?

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
My absence threw things off.
Is it my turn it?

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
did because your absence.
I did one, then I think he didone, so then I think you did.
No, I did the last one with meand you.
I'm pretty sure I don't knowit's completely the only thing
here.
One thing you could do it?
I'll't know.
It's completely the only thinghere.
One thing you could do it.

(01:30:13):
I'll sit back.
I won't say nothing whatever.
But I have a this or that, notwo this or that questions for
you Never before heard.
They're specifically for you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
So go ahead Do you want to start with that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
No, we'll end with that.
I think it would be better ifwe end with it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Okay, all right.
Okay, so June, would you ratherfly or drive?

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Depends on where I'm going, but if it's a far
distance I'd rather fly.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Okay, if you're flying, do you want the window
or the aisle seat?

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Kind of depends on the time of day.
If it's not nighttime that Iwant to sleep, then I'll
probably have to use thebathroom, so I'll take the aisle
.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
Okay, clue or Monopoly.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Oh, that's tough.
I'd probably try to play themboth at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
All right, would you rather have the chicken pox or
poison ivy?

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
chicken pox.
I've had them before.
They're not the biggest deal inthe world.
Poison ivy seems to go onforever yeah, okay, you
perfected your time machine.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Do you want to go to 1825.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
I already know what it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Alright.
Does the toilet paper go overthe roll or under?

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
You know it goes under because if you put it over
and an animal goes near it, thewhole roll will end up on the
floor.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Someone with a cat in their house.
Okay, an elephant-sizedsquirrel or a squirrel-sized
elephant.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
A squirrel-sized elephant.
Elephants are amazing creatures.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
They are Okay.
Okay, mozart or Zeppelin.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Mozart.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
What Okay, I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
No, I'm sorry, mozart what?
Okay, I'm sorry it was delayed.
I understand Mozart's badass,but over, is that okay?
Alright, it's your, it's her.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
You don't argue with you know.
That's the point.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
I'm sorry, you just took me off guard A couple more
for me Dogs or cats.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Okay, john Olsen or Ted Bundy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Ted Bundy Really.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Is that who you're picking?
Thank you All right.
So is that your choice?

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
We'll go with John Olsen.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
You just this close got by.
I, I, yeah, I know, Iunderstand I.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
I know that I can be a lady killer, but not that kind
of lady killer.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
So it's hard.
It's hard to come up with a newworst person you can possibly
think of, but it's amazing howclose.
He either barely wins or likehe has lost a few times.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Yeah, With what should be an obvious answer.
People have to think about itway too much.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Well, you don't have the shirt on, so All right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
John, that's my closer.
What were your questions.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
All right, dw, specifically for you, is this me
?

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
or you're asking June .

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Specifically for you.
I mean and June can answer too,but these are specifically for
you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
The Office or the Simpsons.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
The Office.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
I'll take the Simpsons.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
I mean the Simpsons were good, but I feel like the I
don't know.
I just feel like ever sinceseason 10 it's been a steady
decline I think it'sgenerational you're younger than
I am.
My kids like the office betterit's partly that, but I feel
like there's something aboutending at the right time and I

(01:35:07):
feel like the simpsons is theystill on they're still on oh my
god really exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
So 36 years, oh, it's more than that, it's no 80,
okay, 89 on fox wow that's whereI really don't watch tv that
much, so I had no idea yeah,it's, they debuted on fox in 89,
so that's what?

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
36 years right yeah, it's is that right?
Yeah, so, but they were on thetracy ullman show since 87, 86,
87, somewhere around there.
But yeah, long, long time, allright.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
I was shocked Again.
Color me shocked today.
So DW picked the Office overthe Simpsons.
All right, here we go theOffice or Seinfeld.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Oh gosh, oh gosh, between those, I I'm gonna go
with seinfeld.
Oh, come on, and again, andwent out on top exactly he was
smart.
Some people.

(01:36:30):
I feel like the office went ona little bit too long, I do I.
I'm sorry, I did not like umrobert california.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
I didn't think he was if I agree with you, 100 right.
If the office would have endedseason eight at the end of
season eight when RobertCalifornia left, I think it
would have been fine.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
I think, let me put it this way If the office ended
when Michael left, I don't knowwhat I would pick.
Seinfeld ended when it was ontop and no one's going to argue
with that Office.
Plenty of people feel like thelater seasons were not as good

(01:37:22):
as the early ones.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
But it did exactly what it was supposed to do.
It went from Michael's show toDwight's show supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
It went from michael's show to dwight's show.
It did but, point being, it'sdebatable when the office should
have ended.
No one will argue that seinfeldended when it was on the top
true, all right, did you answer?

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
I'm sorry, or seinfeld, seinfeld, absolutely
seinfeld.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
Seinfeld, seinfeld, absolutely Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
We went on a long.
That was a long answer, but ittook you a while to pick DW
Because I mean because betweenSeinfeld and the Office there
was nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
But when the Office came around it was like this is
my new favorite show and I don'tthink I've been excited about a
show this much since Seinfeld.
So the Office is a close second.
I do like it.
And the thing is it's kind of,in a way it's kind of apples and

(01:38:28):
oranges, because it's a verydifferent style.
Right, seinffeld was scripted.
I mean, the office was scriptedtoo, but it was much more of an
impro improvised feel, itseemed yeah you know it's a
mockumentary.
There's no laugh track, you know.
So both comedies but verydifferent style of comedies.

(01:38:50):
So I mean, I definitelyappreciate the Office, but I
think nothing for me will beatSeinfeld.
And since the Office, nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
Parks and Rec is parks and rec is good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
Um uh, big bang theory was good, but still not
quite as good as the office.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
And now, I'm gonna let you keep debating this and
I'm gonna call it a nightbecause let's stop here before.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Yeah, we're not, we're not gonna so jude.
I just want to say I apologizefor that.
Um, we just that's okay.
I just I've got a very earlyflight to go I understand all
right, so I just want to saythank you very much for coming
on.
It was a pleasure.
I really appreciate it.
You had some wonderful,wonderful insight in everything

(01:39:48):
and I.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
I loved it Great to meet you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
All right, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
You guys Thank you All right.
Well, you know, it means thatyou guys have been amazing, we
have been scolarius and we areout Later.

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