Ep. 83 Ghost Stories and Stand-Up: Leanne Linsky

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Thanks for watching what's going on.

(00:31):
This is scolarius, I am johnolsen and with me, as always, is
dw the debil, a wank wart.
I have no idea what it is, butit sounds bad and it would be

(00:56):
debilitating and I don't know.
But anyway, all right well,thanks again for not selling it,
because, lord knows, if he didthat it would probably make the
show we do in the first fiveminutes anyway, uh.
So what are you drinking, you?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
know, today I I'm I'm taking a break from uh
alcoholic.
I'm just doing a ginger aletonight.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
So look at that, the old shirt is yours.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Do you have one?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
oh yeah, I got one bro oh, a joke that.
Uh, you know, audio listenerswon't audio listeners not here,
but but it my diet coke it saysbro so, thank you, they know now
.
So dw, how are things at theserene manor?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
you know we um did you guys have a crazy storm
yesterday, uh, it rained, maybethe wind blew, I don't know it
was.
I mean, it was pretty intenseover here, so like not, not like
, oh my gosh, the windows arebroken, type of you know thing,
but it was pretty bad for a youknow a couple of minutes.

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So yeah, it was, that was.
And here the reason I bringthat up is we actually got stuck
out in it.
We were a daughter and a friendwere out on their bikes and I
was like, all right, it's timeto go home.
And at the time we left it waslike it might rain soon and then
, like halfway home, it justdownpoured and yeah were you

(02:34):
screaming for auntie m?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
no okay, very good, I'm glad, um, but no, we didn't
get much.
It wasn't it same as everyother time you ever asked about
a storm.
It didn't hit us.
So and it's weird because welive not that far away from each
other, right, right.
But you know, there's beentimes I've seen things where it

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rains across the street and notin front of the house.
Kind of a weird thing, butwhatever, dw, I don't know if
you've seen this, but I'm goingto let you know I've recently
taken up jogging.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I did see that.
Yeah, I didn't see the actualjogging, but I heard you talking
about it.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
For somebody who was dead and uh was told he wasn't
going to leave the hospitalwithout oxygen.
I think it's pretty badass thatI can run and run long, longish
distances you're, you'reworking up to it.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I mean, you can't expect to to run a marathon
tomorrow if you haven't beentraining for it, so you gotta,
you gotta, work up to that no, Iagree, I I am gonna run a 5k
this summer, oh do you know,like when or where yet, or just
want to do a 5k I, I don't knowyet.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I think it's it'll probably be a fun run or some
type of thing like that, but Iam in it to win it.
But there are people that aregoing to be way more experienced
than me, so, um, but I am, I am, I train, train by just running
every day and every day I justincrease my distance just a

(04:22):
little bit more and, uh, I'm notsucking wind.
So, like I said, yeah, it'spretty badass.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm, I'm planning I would like to find a 5k that
allows dogs and take, uh, one ofthe dogs on a 5k and see if
that actually wears her out,because it takes a lot to wear
out the hellhounds of serenemanner, yeah, and I wonder if 5k

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is what would do it.
You know, I kind of have afeeling we'd get to the end of
the 5k and she'd be like allright, let's keep going.
Where are we going now?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
it's pretty much.
It'd be really funny if youwere the one carrying her the
whole time, like she's no, noshe'd probably pull me like
you're going too slow, come on,keep up, type of thing it's a
wiener schnitzel, so I mean,can't really pull you no, not
not the small one, clover thebigger one she's yeah all right,

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I can see it.
Yeah, yeah, she'll keep runningforever.
She'll run the new york.
Yeah, yeah, pretty much, um,yeah, so that that's the thing
started the whole running thing,uh, other stuff going.
Oh, I am gonna say this okay, II have kept it uh kind of tight

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close to the vest andeverything, and I gave all you
listeners like this little thingwhere I was like oh, something
big, something big, and you'llknow, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, so, um, just want to letyou know that I did use me in

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the future okay so, um,basically it was to be part of a
reboot of some show on thehistory channel that had to do
with paranormal, so it wouldhave been a great opportunity to
get my name out there, which,by the way, I don't know it.
Um, our our guest this week,this today, is is a comedian, so

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I'm going to ask her a littlebit later on, but I want to know
this.
Like it's always been one of mygoals to make it to network tv
you know, yeah, as a comedian.
So I was kind of wondering if itwas the history channel show,
if I got that and I was on there, would that check that box?
Or does that specifically meanfor comedy?

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Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
it's a good question.
Yeah, because if you're on tvfor well, any exception, like
attempted murder or something Iwas gonna say, if you're on an
episode of cops, because I meanI can see it happening you know,
you're uh uh in vegas a lot soyeah, does that count as a tv

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appearance, you know right right.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
So depends on where your level of fame is like
infamous, yeah, probably.
Uh kind of famous, and mostlikely not, I don't, I don't
know.
But yeah, so that was the thing.
Obviously they decided to notgo with me.
So, uh, I just want to saythank you for uh, if, if they're
, if anybody's listening fromthere uh, thank you for the

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opportunity to at least screentest and all that stuff for it.
Uh, it was a lot of fun.
It's been a lifelong dream ofmine.
I used to, and it's it'sexperience.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
You know it's experience in going through that
part of the process.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
So yeah, and, like I said, it was a lifelong dream.
I remember back in the day Well, I mean maybe I was a little
bit older, probably 10, 11 orwhatever Watching like Saved by
the Bell.
I could do that, I could dothat, you know so.
But yeah, so maybe someday Idon't know, I'm not 50 yet so
maybe by the time I'm 50, I'llget that acting slash TV gig and

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things will be whatever.
Because you know they say, Idon't care what kind of religion
or whatever you are, if you askfor it enough and you're
genuine about it, you will getit in time, not your time, the
universe's time and or God'stime.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
That was kind of our message last episode.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
It was.
I mean in terms of paranormal.
We brushed on that a little bit, but only because.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
And Lorraine Warren.
I mean they were in and youknow she is a medium and she did
talk about like ghosts she did,yeah, but we we segued into
relationship stuff which became,which was very interesting.
It was interesting, but themost I I have to say the most
interesting thing was herdescription of like everything.

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We've had a lot of psychicmediums out here and they they
didn't get that deep, you knowwhat I mean I was sitting there
like at points, just speechless,because I'm like, wow, that is
just incredible on how they didthat.
You know what I mean, like howshe described every little thing
that she was seeing.
Like people are articulate, youknow, like when they talk and

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things like that.
But just I, that was I, topnotch.
I'm just gonna say, yeah, I Inot to disparage anybody else
that's ever been on, but thatwas, uh, yeah, there was.
It was very, very descriptive,uh yeah.
And speaking of those that havebeen on, they know where to

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find us, right, they do, but thelisteners might not know where
to find us, but I'll just letthem know.
They can find you, dw, at DWSerene Comedian on Facebook.
You can find me at John OlsonComedian 2.0 on Facebook.
You can find us both togetheron Facebook, but we're not a
couple.
No, we are not a coupletogether on Facebook, but we're
not a couple.
No, we are not a couple.

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But also you can find us onTikTok at Scalarious8.
You know the rest of that part,you know, whatever.
And we do have an Instagram, itis called Scalarious.
If you want to reach out to usand send a nice email, maybe one
that doesn't end with anexpletive.
Maybe you could just send outnice email, maybe one that
doesn't end with an expletive.

(10:45):
Maybe you could just send outsomething nice to me for once.
That would be great.
You could do that at sclarispod, at gmailcom or, if you want to
and only if you want to you cango back and listen to every
single episode that we have atsclarispod dot buzzbuzzsproutcom

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, and you know, if they're doingthat, they're going and they're
listening to every singleepisode that we have.
Most likely they're fans, rightmost of them yeah, they're fans
.
So and what do fans do?
Fans, you know they go, likeyou've gone to concerts, right
dw?
Yeah yeah, you go to concertsbecause you like the band, right
?
Not just because you just wantto go right.

(11:27):
So when you're at the concert,even though it costs literally
85, you get a t-shirt, rightsometimes yeah yeah, zz top van
halen, whatever band, not vanhagar, but either way, like you
get, you get your stuff have youbeen to a concert since the 80s
, or van halen and zz top, thoseare the.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
That was the last concert you went to elton john
technically okay, still senior,but okay yeah that's.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
It's been a while I haven't had a whole lot of money
.
I do podcasts Just throwing itout there, okay.
But anyway, if you're a fan,you go and you purchase the
merch, right, you can do thatfor Scalarius too.
Did you know that, dw?
You know that?
I can do oh yeah, yeah, you cando that for Scalarius the
peoples, the peoples, they.

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Oh yeah, yeah, you can do thatfor Scolarius the peoples, the
peoples, they can do that forScolarius.
They can go to crowdmadecomforward slash collections,
forward slash Scolarius pod, orjust go to crowdmadecom and
search Scolarius and you can geta whole lot of merch.
Dw.
We have cups, we have hats forboth winter and summer, spring,
I don't know.

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I don't wear a hat in thesummer because I obviously shave
my head, but then it's too damnhot because 90% of your heat
escapes from your head.
A little bit of science there.
Didn't think you'd get that onSquares, did you?
You can get hats, t-shirts oh,the T-shirts DW.
What's your favorite T-shirt?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I don't know who John Olsen is.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I have no idea who John Olsen is.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I have no idea who John Olsen is.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I knew that would be yours.
Mine is O'Criper's, because DWsays that literally every
episode.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, you do, but maybe not.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
No, I really don't okay, anyway and there's a
t-shirt that says it.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's the weird part yeah, whatever people, people
like, what people like and andyou know what else we have, dw,
you know this.
We have pet bowls and we haveleashes and collars and and
these leashes and collars hearme out, guys they can be used
for dogs, they could be used forcats, they could be used for
hamsters, if you wanted to, theycould be used for guinea pig,

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maybe a turtle maybe you want totake your slow ass turtle on a
walk.
Maybe you can use that, or Idon't know what your thing is.
I, I don't know, it's none ofmy business, but maybe, maybe
you can use this leash and orcollar on your significant other
.
I don't know what your thing is, I don't know, it's none of my
business, but maybe you can usethis leash and or collar on your
significant other, I don't know, in the bedrooms you can do all
of that stuff.
You find it all at crowdmadecomand just search Scalarius.

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All that, you can have it all.
What do you think DW?
Yeah, I think they should.
I think they should.
And do what do you think dwshould?
Yeah, I think they should.
I think they should.
And do you think we should?
Maybe get on with the show?
We should.
Okay, dw looks tired.
All right, so we will.
We're gonna do that exact thing.
You know one thing I had acomedian on as a guest host a

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couple weeks back, you know, oractually for the last two weeks,
but but we haven't had acomedian on our show for quite
some time and everybody shouldknow that the basis for this
show was to literally askcomedians about paranormal shit
while they were on the road andand things like that.

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And then we just kind of likewent we grew into asking
everybody about the paranormaland became the comedy.
So or we well, we were thecomedy from the get from the
gecko, but that's whatever.
So we're going to bring anothercomedian on this comedian
listen.
All right, she's from seattle,washington.

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She is the founder of Plausibleright and a very funny comedian
, leanne Linsky.
Leanne, welcome to Scalarious,how are you tonight?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Thank you, thanks for having me Excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's awesome.
We don't get very many excitedto be here.
We get some people that arelike, well, I mean, you just
begged enough and finally ithappened.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, that's kind of my go-to Story of my life.
I get it.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
So how are things?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Things are going well .
Things are going well.
As you said, I'm here inSeattle.
I've actually only been inSeattle since 2021.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Oh nice.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Not too soon.
Where were you before?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
So before Seattle I was in California, in Long Beach
, outside of LA, and then beforethat.
So I was there for about eightor so years and then before that
I lived in New York City forabout nine years, yep, and
before that I was in Vegas for16.
Wow, for about nine years, yep,and before that I was in vegas
for 16, but I grew up inchicagoland, yeah okay, first of

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all, I just want to put thisout there you have literally
lived in every single favoritecity.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I've never been in new york.
I want to go, never, dw.
I've never been in new york.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Really.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's amazing, amazing .

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I love living there, I want to go.
But you lived in Vegas, you'refrom Chicagoland.
Like, oh, that is just Chicago.
Every time I even see a pictureof Chicago on TV, I blow a kiss
.
I love that city.
Love it, that's where I'msupposed to be.
I swear to God.
And then Long Beach, that city,love it, that's where I'm

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supposed to be.
I swear to god.
But um, and then long beach.
I I spent summers at wellwhatever in long beach when I
was younger, because mygrandmother lived out there.
So yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, I mean I kind of ended up.
Never knew that's kind of likeI would end up in those places,
but you know life has been weird, so so, yeah, it's been a a
wild ride.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well that's awesome, since, I mean, you brought up
Long Beach, you lived there.
So let me ask you this have youever been to the Queen Mary?
Yes, yes, I have okay, and whenyou were there, was it there to
spend the night?
Was it there there just tourLike I did?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
the tour.
I didn't spend the nightbecause we lived like right
there, so but it did seem alittle creepy and I don't know.
I guess people claim thatthey've seen ghosts when they've
stayed there, right.
Yeah, and that it is haunted.
I believe that there's got tobe.
Also, I wonder how involved isthe staff in haunting?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
the residents.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I often think like well, now that we're talking
about it, I'm thinking about it,but I think that kind of gives
them free license to make itmore interesting, right.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, wow, I guess I never really thought about that.
I, you know, I've stayed in twohaunted hotels my entire life.
One of them was, uh, thebullock hotel, which is in
deadwood, south dakota, and theother one I can never remember
the name and it makes me so madbecause it was amazing.
It was, um, uh, airbnbessentially, but it was massive

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and it had like a ballroom andthere was a restaurant
downstairs and it was reallyreally cool, uh, and it was part
of history like, um, thebuilding itself.
It had a sub-basement in.
That sub-basement was part ofthe underground railroad oh, wow
yeah, so this place in fortmadison, iowa, which is

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literally the penis tip of iowa,it's way down there, um, right
on the border of illinois and uh, missouri, yeah, so, but, uh,
yeah, it was.
It was pretty cool those thosetwo, and in those places I can
honestly say the staff hadnothing to do with anything.
But again, you have to know thebullock hotel is haunted.

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You know, you'd have to know itfrom an outside source because
I mean, yes, it was on, um, Ithink it was on unsolved
mysteries or something.
At one point they always play atape or like a video or
whatever at the hotel.
Uh, but it was there.
But uh, the I guess the crewand everything they don't really

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interact and try to spook youor anything but hmm, that you
know of, like they could do itwithout you knowing that it's so
.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
there's a theater in tacoma, washington, and so we
went to see a comedy show thereand they had this like lounge
upstairs, which really wasn't alounge.
It was they were experimentingwith using this open hallway.
But while we were up there welearned that apparently there it

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is haunted and that sometimespeople in the audience will see
like a ghost-like figure onstage and occasionally weird
things happen in the roomdifferent rooms, not on stage
but behind the scenes in thetheater like things will fall
off the walls and break andthings like that.
So apparently and I guess ifyou go to the website, there is

(21:02):
the story about who's hauntingthe theater well, that's really
cool.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Uh, who'd you go see there?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
you said you want to go see his comedy show yeah, we
went to see colin jost oh wow, Iknew dwbr yeah good yeah, yeah,
and then a couple of thewriters from snl were opening
for him.
That was a really great show,but I didn't see a ghost.
But I could see it was prettyold theater.

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I could see where that could belikely.
The elevators weren't working,so maybe that had something to
do with it.
And we had to go five flights ofstairs and then we got to the
bottom of the stairs.
After the show they're like oh,we didn't tell you the
elevators are working again wow,that's messed up.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, colin joe's like maybe I'm, I don't know, I
think I'm out of the loop orwhatever.
Was he a comedian before he?
Or improv comic or I mean how?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
so he was a comedy writer, he he did comedy writing
in college, he was part of thewriters group at Harvard and
everything, and then he was justalways a really good writer.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
So yeah, and I believe he did improv as well
since you're a comic and wedon't get to ask comedians
questions what like you?

Speaker 3 (22:34):
would you consider yourself a better writer or
performer?
You personally, I, I don't know.
That's a hard question.
I guess it depends on the day.
If I bomb, I I'm like, oh,definitely a better writer.
And then there's days whereit's like maybe I should just go
yuck it up.
But sometimes I think I would.
Just, I don't know if I'mbetter.

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Well, I guess I'm a betterwriter.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, dw, how about you I?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I don't write as often as I should.
Um, I do feel like when I I I'mgonna go with performer,
because I feel like I a lot oftimes, what I'm doing on stage
is not so much what I've written, but it is improv, and

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sometimes I'm even kind ofchanging slightly what I've
written before you know, basedon the audience reaction, and
I'm interacting with theaudience and stuff like that.
So I would say performerbecause I feel like, well, I
don't know what, what do youconsider improv?
Do you consider improvperforming or do you consider it
writing on the spot?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
yeah, that's a great question and the other thing is
like when you say performer, Ialso did acting, and in that
case I'm a better stand-upcomedian than I am performer in
the sense of acting.
So that also plays into myanswer of like all the writing I
don't know.
So, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's hard to say I understand, I, you know,
honestly, uh, I don't know howto answer that for myself.
And what I mean by that is likeI don't think anybody else
could perform the jokes that Iwrite, those jokes that I how

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it's not so much, it's thedelivery, and only I know how to
do that delivery.
So I DW what do you think ofthat?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, I think it depends on the comedian, because
I feel like there are somecomedians like Stephen Wright, I
think is the king of one-liners.
And if you were to just readwhat Stephen Wright is saying,
if you were to just read off ofa script his jokes, it would
still be hilarious, right On theflip side, someone like Brian
Regan.

(24:57):
If you were to do that, if youwere to just read his jokes, it
wouldn't come off the same way.
It's all in his delivery.
The way he delivers hismaterial is very animated and
very um, the performance basedyeah, give me one of your jokes
I oh three, okay, no just to sayon here so I can deliver it.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
No, I'm not gonna steal your joke.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
No no, no, I was joking.
No, but give me, like, share ajoke in the chat and then I'll
deliver it.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'm not going to steal your joke, no, no, no, I
was joking, no, but give me,like share, a joke in the chat
and then I'll deliver it.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Oh, let me see if I can think of, but I'm trying to.
You got to think of a short.
Oh, do your opener John.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
You want my?
Ok, you want me to.
I don't know if I can type that.
Hold on, I can try.
Yeah, it's gonna keep theconversation going because me
doing like okay, we'll keep theconversation going.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
So what?
Why you type that?
So one of the things I heardyou say, uh, in your intro
tonight is, or today, is that,uh, you don't know what counts
as a TV credit, right Like ifyou go on a paranormal show or
something.
So great question, right Like Iremember what if?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I just like, will that tick my box as being Nah,
nah.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
And I'm going to answer that by telling you, no,
I don't think so.
And well, depending on thecredit, I mean you could.
So it kind of gets you there,like when I lived in New York.
If you are on Law and Order,that kind of checked that box,
right, right so, but I got onthe show on National Geographic,
on Nat Geo.

(26:38):
Have you watched the show BrainGames?
Yeah, it got me nothing, right.
That would would be right thatwould be a non non check of a
box.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
So well, and I'm thinking of like when you see a
headliner and they give theircredentials there.
They're saying tonight showcorrect um comedy central hbo.
If you put history channel onthere, they're gonna people are
gonna say well, what's theconnection between history and a
?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
comedian.
So like on your resume.
You could put it on your actingor your performer resume, but
it really to show like if I wereto show a casting director for
another show, like you haveexperience being on set, that's
helpful, but to be introduced as, hey, you've seen this comedian
on Nat Geo, they would be likewhat Right?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
right.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
And then you know, but then if you saw me on Brain
Games it might humor you.
So I don't know, probably not.
Yeah.
So yeah, it really should becomedy relevant to make a
difference for an intro or toget a spot in a club or to get
passed.
Yeah, but, if you're, if you'relooking to book other

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television work, put it on yourresume so that they know you
have on set.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Maybe I can throw this like in there.
It would have said host of theparanormal and comedy podcast
scolarius, like in the title.
So yes, yeah so therefore thecomedy credit is there
technically right, because itwill I mean well but I.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
The other thing is she's saying that the history
channel may not be a good comedycredit, but the history channel
may get you to a different showand that might be your comedy
right.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
It depends on are you using this credit in an intro
at a stand-up show or are youusing this on your your
performer resume?
Right, yeah right, like becausea fan isn't going to be looking
at your resume.
That's something you give anagent, a manager, a casting
director or something like that,and that's where you would put
it well, and also depending onthe show, you might reference

(28:55):
the show rather than the stationyeah or the because like I want
to say umunk History was on theHistory Channel, but that was a
hilarious show.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
You're not going to say I was on the History Channel
.
You're going to say you mightremember him from Drunk History.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
There you go.
Yes, yeah, it's exactly makingit relevant to what you're doing
.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
All right.
Well, that's fair, okay, allright.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I've got to put my readers on and they look like
they're tinted yellow.
I don't know what it is.
Okay, so okay.
Hey.
Hitting the stage is such arush maybe comparable to having

(29:45):
sex.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Only now I expect laughter she liked it ah I mean
either way, apparently I'mgetting silence, so no, I was
sitting there thinking I'm like,okay, it's not I didn't know.

(30:08):
No, that it's it's.
It's just different writing itdown or typing it, because I'm
playing it in my head and I'malso going to like, I'm like
I'll just do the bit andeverybody else can hear it and
hopefully somebody laughs.
So it is basically um, you know, my name is John Olson.
I'm like I'll just do the bitand everybody else can hear it
and hopefully somebody laughs.
So it is basically you know, myname is John Olson.
I say hi, yeah, you didn'twrite that down.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
So, just say the two lines, bro.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Bro, hitting the stage is such a rush, maybe
comparable to having sex Onlynow I expect laughter.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
No laughter.
No, no, that's not how youusually do it.
You cared way too much in thatdelivery.
You need to too much motivation.
Yeah, he gets up there he'slike uh, this is such a rush,
maybe comparable to having sexokay, so you wrote it with an
exclamation point.
You're already setting me up tofail, because clearly you're

(31:05):
not delivering it with anexclamation right, yeah, you're
delivering it with a yawn what'sthe opposite of an exclamation
point, because that's how hedelivers it frown face emoji.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Bro, I'm gonna call you bro for the rest of this
podcast, because that's whatyour soda can says yeah, there
you go, in case nobody knows now?
Had you not put the explanationthere?
Be like oh, hitting the sage issuch a rush, it's like having
sex.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Both are met with laughter see that right there,
like she did pretty close.
That's basically.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I mean not 100 my delivery, but yeah, that's how I
, that's how I go and, and oneof these days we have been
talking about john and Iswitching material and I think
that would be hilarious for meto do his jokes, and the thing
is, what I would actually do isum, well, we've been talking
about would it be funny to haveone of us go on first and the
other do try and do the exactsame thing, and then I would

(32:06):
change his punchlines, and if Igot more laughter, that would be
even more gratifying.
To be like see, that's what youshould have said.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I don't know, I like having fun with it, you know
it's.
I think it'd be amazing toliterally go up and do the same
material, like just complete thesame, like Carlos Mencia and
whatnot Just go up there and doexactly the same material.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
There was one time at a roast I can't remember who it
was for, but Ice Cube got up,did some pretty raunchy stuff.
Gilbert Godfrey got up, did thesame stuff in his delivery and
he was like see, you alreadyheard it and you're still

(32:58):
laughing at it.
I wish I could remember who itwas, because that was.
It was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
That was Gilbert Gottfried, though he can make
anybody like.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
There's another one.
You're talking about differencebetween rain and delivery.
Obviously, gilbert, that's allhis delivery, everything is
funny.
That's Gilbert Gottfried Allright Leanne, Now that we've
successfully derailed thisconversation.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, that's what we do.
That's what I do.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
If we didn't derail, people would be disappointed.
They'd be like what's thisboring ass show without all the
derail?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
It's like a train going through Ohio, oh hell Wow.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
it's like a train going through ohio.
Oh, hell wow too soon.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Are you in ohio?
Where are you guys?
You're in tornadoville we're inminnesota.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
He was in ohio though you're from ohio I'm of iowa.
There's a big difference.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh, I mixed them up One starts with O.
They're both boring, I didn't,yeah, no, I know.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
But one of them has cornfields and the other one has
LeBron James, and I don't or atleast did, and I'm not into
that.
So Iowa is where it's from.
So, leanne, you know, tell usabout some stories.
I would assume you have someghost stories, right.
You have some spooky stuffthat's happened to you and then
we're going to get into your funwell business that you have and

(34:35):
I'm sure anybody who is a comicis going to want to hear this,
anyway, of course, what do youhave for some ghost stories?
Some spooky stuff, some chill.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I've been to the first haunted house I ever went
to.
I was so scared they had to getme out of there, Like I
couldn't even go through thewhole haunted house.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Like a haunted house, like a haunted attraction.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
So I grew up outside of chicago, so friends from
chicago, please don't hate me.
Uh, 45 minutes out of chicago,in walkigan, where jack benny is
from if you're in a comedy, youknow jack benny used to be on
the radio famous comedian ohyeah I went to jack benny junior
high, so, uh, so I grew up inwaukegan and and if you're not

(35:24):
from chicago it's easier to say,uh, waukegan is kind of near
chicago, so you're good enough,right?
Um, but anyway, in waukeganthere was the old jc's library
and it was closed.
I can't even remember in mychildhood when it was actually
open.
So back in the 70s everythingkind of closed started closing

(35:49):
up and they opened a mall, soall the downtown business went
to the mall right.
So the downtown kind of becamea ghost town, if you will, and
because you know, everythingclosed up and so then that old
library had been down there andthat's like really what I think
of it as like the oldGhostbusters building.

(36:09):
You know when I looked at it.
That's kind of the vibe it had,you know, it kind of had the
ornate architecture andeverything outside and it was
always boarded up.
Well, when I was in junior highI think it was, you know, 13,
14, going into high school myfriend Jory wanted to go to the
JC's haunted house.
So every year they would end upputting a haunted house on in

(36:32):
there in this old, abandonedlibrary and it was all lit up
like backlit and it was reallydark and creepy.
And so I went in and peoplewere jumping out with chainsaws
and all that kind of stuff.
The first five minutes Ithought I was going to die.
I was crying, I was such alittle baby and I had to go out
the side door and my friend Jorywas like what?

(36:54):
And she ended up going throughthe whole thing.
She was super cool.
I, on the other hand, was not.
I was terrified and I had to gohang out with Jory's mom while
we waited for her to get out.
That was my first haunted house.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, that was in Waukegan.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah, that was crazy.
I still wouldn't go in thereeven today.
It's a creepy old building.
I mean maybe during the day ifthey open it up and let some
light in, but yeah, I think I'dstill be scared.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Well, since you were talking about Chicago and around
there.
I, you know, I just happened tobe.
I looked up something and it's11 of the most haunted areas in
Chicago and I'm going to ask youabout these places and see if
you've ever been there or heardof them.
Okay, all right, the IroquoisTheater?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Nope, ask you about these places and see if you've
ever been there or heard of them.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Okay, all right.
The iroquois theater nope it'snot I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
This is a long time ago too, okay, yep um.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
So the it's now the james m nenderlander theater,
but I think I've been there okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
All right, the other one, hh holmes murder castle
which, by the way, I think itwould be amazing to go to.
Is this someone I dated?
I've been to many a man'smurder castle oh, my god, uh,

(38:22):
that is freaking hilarious.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Uh no, he was a the first american serial killer,
I'm pretty sure, and there was alot of like people thought that
maybe he was jack the ripperwho came to america.
I don't know, but anyway.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, I'm probably cross paths.
Ran with the same crowd.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
The Couch Mausoleum and Lincoln Park.
I know you've been to LincolnPark.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah, no, missed that .

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I go nowhere.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Chicago Water Tower.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
No, I have not been to the Haunted Water Tower.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
The Water Tower is haunted.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's right on Michigan Avenue.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I don't know, Maybe it's my aura that's been
protecting me.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Congress Plaza Hotel.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Nope, no Congress, no Plaza.
Hotel, hotel that's like threethings.
That's not even one thing,that's like three.
That's a multi-functionalbuilding yeah, it's, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Site of the eastland river.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Disaster on the chicago river nope, nope, maybe,
and I didn't know it, I don'tknow the drake hotel oh, you
know, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I had a client who performed there oh really, yeah,
yeah yeah, that was like, uh,one of the things he wanted to
do and he ended up doing that,which is really exciting that's
pretty awesome and obviously youknow, the only reason I even
know the drake hotel was frommission impossible, the movie
the first one, because he's likebible from the drake hotel in

(40:08):
chicago, yeah that's so goodyeah, that's uh, graceland
cemetery.
I stay away from cemeteries.
What?
Why?
They're amazing.
They're so cool.
Amazing Me and the Queenconcert.
We walk through cemeteries allthe time.
Actually, when we go to find aplace to walk or whatever it's,

(40:28):
usually we'll find a cemeterySight of the St Valentine's Day
Massacre.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Okay, so funny story.
The short answer is no longer.
Answer is valentine's day.
So my first husband proposed tome on valentine's day, and my
second husband and I got marriedthe day after not the same year
, that would be very weird, butso valentine's day is kind of a

(40:59):
massacre for me.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
So I'm done with that , so no isn't the the, the sites
now like in because just blazeright over that.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Nothing, you got nothing, laying it out there,
being vulnerable, and you guysare like anyway, back to the
cemetery like about that, likeunless you're in utah, because
you could marry two differentpeople the day.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I just thought she got engaged to the one, but
decided to marry someone elsethe following day no, I married
both of them, just differentyears oh, there you go, uh not,
not the 90s were busy notconsecutive years no, no, a few
years I thought that would havebeen pretty, uh, yeah no, I

(41:52):
think.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Well, I don't know.
I've uh, me and my future wife.
Um, let me see here.
My divorce was in, I think, 18or 19.
We're going on seven years.
I feel it's a pretty good gap.
How long was the gap betweenyour first and second?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Two years, did you say future ex-wife?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
No, no, wow, Hopefully that don't happen.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Future ex -wife, not future ex -wife yeah well you
don't know, you, you can't youdon't.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
You don't know, it could be your future ex-wife.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
The psychic the other day didn't disclose that part,
so it could have been, you knowhow come?
Maybe she didn't want to lethim down and say I don't see
good things happening here.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well, that's true, because then you wouldn't do it
and then it wouldn't be true.
Right, maybe it's your destiny.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
I sure the hell hope not.
It better not be my destiny toget married and divorced
multiple times.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah, zero stars Do not recommend.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Is there a Yelp rating for that?
I I need to get on there, I do.
Yeah, I have some.
I have some people to yelp yes,yelp, yelp yeah, a lot of one
stars or zeros along my paththere, right, yes, the jane
adams whole house, the JaneAdams Hole House.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
No, is he a cheesemaker?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
No.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Was he Swiss?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Maybe, I was thinking of a different hole.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
I tried to keep it clean.
I tried to keep it gouda, oh,Hang on where's?

Speaker 1 (43:43):
the yeah that's the no.
That's like a there we go.
That was basically a normmcdonald joke.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I like that yeah well , no norm mcdonald was.
Take five minutes to get tothat joke to get to that
punchline he was a good one,though.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I love there's a joke that he tells and I may tell it
at the end of the show.
But there's a joke becausethere's no reason why we can't,
we'll just tell it until we getout.
But yeah, there's a joke thathe tells that I tell all the
time which one.
No, no, no, no, no, Not in myset or anything Well.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
I know no, but which joke are you talking about?
Of his?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
It's a joke about Polish Great.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
I'm Polish.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Are you?
So is my queen consort, sothat's why it's so funny have
you, so is my queen consort, sothat's why it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
I like his.
Have you heard his moth joke?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah.
That's my favorite of his.
There's so many Poor guy.
Rest in peace.
He was amazing.
He's not here, but we shouldprobably talk to Leanne Just
throwing it out there.
All right, so you got the shitscared out of you in Waukegan,

(45:07):
Waukegan yeah.
What happened from there?
Did you just go and start?

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I decided I wasn't going to do that.
But in high school I went tosome, some scary parties which,
hindsight being what it is,probably much scarier in real
life than that haunted houseyeah you know, I wouldn't be the
host of this show if I didn'task why you would say that like

(45:37):
what makes you like?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
give me some examples of the scariness that would
happen at those parties not somuch what happened at them but
what happened after that.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
And you'd read in the paper what maybe someone else
at the the party had done ohokay, wow left the party, yeah
right, and it's like, okay, thatwas crazy.
And then my mom's like maybe youneed to not go out with some of
these friends or people, yeah.

(46:07):
So yeah, like sometimes,sometimes real life is scarier
than the things we don't know.
Do you ever think about that?
Like ghost, scary right.
Sometimes wondering likesuperstition can be scary, right
.
But then here we ignore thingsthat we instinctively know are

(46:32):
trouble.
Do you ever notice that?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
like what explain?
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
so like uh, so so like I can be superstitious, I'm
not gonna walk under a ladderor the like.
A couple weeks ago, a black catliterally ran out in front of
my car and I was like, do I needto turn around and go the other
way, right?
do you think about those thingslike oh god what's gonna happen
now, you know, and then orthings come in threes and so you

(46:57):
wait for like two other badthings to happen.
You're like there they are,knew it was going to happen.
So like, whether that's true orcoincidence I don't know, but
if you ever read, uh, the bookthe Gift of Fear by Gavin
DeBecker, so it's all about so.
So, first of all, the authorwas an expert witness on the

(47:20):
prosecuting side of the OJSimpson trial and he often gets
called in when celebrities havestalkers or presidents have
assassination threats and thingslike that, because he can
determine if it's a real threator not, and he's an expert in it
.
He grew up in a very abusivehousehold and he learned at a

(47:43):
very young age to know when hismom was actually going to act on
her threat versus just threatenthe kids, and he figured it out
in like the word choice thatshe had and how the message was
delivered.
So, anyway, he wrote this book.
It's called A Gift of Fear andit's not.
It's kind of weird because it's.

(48:04):
It's all like how we as humans,have this animal instinct built
into us to alert us when we'rein actual trouble, right Like
the hair on your neck stands up,or you kind of get that gut
feeling like I kind of knewsomething was off but I couldn't
put my finger on it.

(48:24):
All of those things are thereto tell us like danger, danger,
something's wrong.
And especially in women,because in society we don't want
to come off, as you know, likebeing a bitch, right, we want,
we don't want to like being a abitch right, we want, we, we

(48:44):
don't want to.
We, we kind of we were like, oh, don't be that or don't be so,
um, you know, like just ignoreit and don't, don't let them
think you're judging them orsomething right so like when a
man approaches us, but in allthe chapters it talks about how
women know like instinctivelythey'll.
We of societal norms, we aretaught to not listen to our

(49:05):
instincts because we don't wantto come off as crazy, whereas
really our instincts are tellingus to run or we're in danger or
this person's going to hurt us,and so it talks about all of
those things.
So when I think and we havethese conversations about the
paranormal, it's interestingbecause we can lean into these
theories and beliefs of like theparanormal and be like, yeah,

(49:27):
that's really creepy, thatspooky haunted house.
I know that it's like set upthat way to be that way on
Halloween, but what if they'rereally ghosts?
Or what if you know?
Like there's all of thesethings and they are probably
less likely to be an actualthreat than real life.
But in real life I'll, I'llignore my instincts and in these

(49:51):
instances, um, you know, I'mlike get me out of here.
It's a haunted house that'stotally monitored by normal
people and everything and Igotta get out of there.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
So it's just kind of interesting like one can be
perceived to be so much morethreatening than than real
danger well, the funny thingabout that and very ironic part
is that you know you said infear of acting crazy, you know,
like, ah, running away.
That is more of a logicalreason than people who believe

(50:26):
and or hunt ghosts.
So think about this thesocietal norms would make you,
or a woman whatever, believethat you're crazy because you're
screaming in in some man's faceand running away.
But ironically enough, theghost hunting and the believing

(50:49):
in the paranormal and all thatstuff is it can be viewed as
crazy.
Yeah, yeah, right that's, that'snuts to me, because it it wow.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
It honestly doesn't make any sense, not at all but
if I were to run away screamingghost, I would probably people.
Some people might think I'mcrazy.
But you, as ghost hunters orbelievers in the uh, paranormal,
would be like of course you'regonna run away from those things
, right?

(51:26):
So like it's real to some, notreal to others, a kind of in
real life it's real to some butnot perceived real to others.
So but so.
But our societal, our societalnorms dictate to us how we
should react, not how we, nothow our bodies would

(51:46):
instinctively react to danger.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
You, you, you brought up ghost hunters not running
from ghosts.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
They do.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
The most popular ghost hunter in the world has
been seen running out ofbuildings more than any.
Zach Baggins, I mean.
Say what you want about ZachBaggins and I will, but he is
legitimately the most.
He's the most popular ghosthunter in the world.

(52:21):
He's just a drama queen that'sawesome.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
No, it's also good for his brand.
Like I would want to watch thatbecause that would be
interesting and see, maybethat's what it is.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
It's all brand, it's all marketing, that's what he's
doing, and he's got me talkingabout it, even though he
probably won't ever hear it, andif he did, it would be awesome,
that's all yeah, he's alsoouija boards.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Have you guys ever played around with ouija boards?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I've never played with one dw.
We talked about this.
We had a whole episode on thiswe talked about this.
We had a whole episode on this.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
We talked about it because I I don't, I'm not into
the paranormal stuff to beginwith, and I think John's view
was kind of the same as a lot ofother people have basically
said you don't want to encouragethat.

(53:20):
I mean, you're John, you say itbetter than me, but you don't
want to invite that.
You want people or you want thespirits or whatever to come
naturally if they want to bethere, but you don't want to do
something specifically to enticethem.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
No, cause you're not going to.
You don't know who you're goingto pull through that thing and
that's I mean, that's the bottomline with the bottle anything
that's ghost hunting equipmentthat we use to talk or anything
like that.
You know, um, when we are doingevp sessions or you use a ghost
box and things like that, whenyou're talking directly to them,
asking them questions andeverything, you are opening a

(53:57):
door and it's basically the samedoor, uh, as in a ouija board.
But the ouija board has a lotmore it.
It's got a bad name to it.
I guess, I don't know, it's akid's game parker brother made
it up.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
You know, like it well, that's what I'm wondering.
What do you think about itbeing sold as a game for kids?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
you can get.
Get it right now.
I don't know if you have FiveBelow over there on the West
Coast, but it's a possibility.
You can get a Ouija board atFive Below.
It's a store.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
I don't know that we have it here, but I know what
you're talking about it's $5.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
They're literally flying off the shelf and I don't
know Like.
I think it's.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Wait a minute.
Are they flying off the shelf?
Flying off the shelf?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Well, I don't know if the former is happening, but
the latter they are.
Most people are buying the shitout of them.
That's.
That's what's happened.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yeah, so what do you think about them being sold to
kids if they're dangerous?
Because that's the only timeI've ever used them was like
slumber parties when someonewould pull out the Ouija board.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
So anything?
Well, let's talk about that.
You used it at slumber parties.
Did anything happen?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
yeah, we were just a bunch of giggly kids laughing
about it and someone you know,we figured someone's always
pushing the you know to do that.
So was it done accurately?
I don't know.
Was it a little creepy, sure,you know, but it was also fun.
I don't remember, and also itwas so long ago so I guess a lot

(55:40):
of my experience was when I wasa kid.
Does that explain today?
Like maybe?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I grew up in a haunted house, so I mean, look
at me.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
I mean I'm not, yeah, wait you grew up in a haunted
house yeah, yep who is ithaunted by?
I?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
don't know, I have no idea you don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
You never asked did you have like someone come by
and do a thing?

Speaker 1 (56:04):
No, no, no, that was way before, no, when I grew up.
That was way before that, andit was a time of gaslighting by
our parents too.
You probably know this.
Like nothing ever reallyhappened, right, like nothing
ever really.
Nope, never seen it, nope,never heard of it.
Nope, none of that.
So I'm a nutty ass kid who'sseeing people every day.

(56:27):
You know, uh, you know, a woman, and there was two I two that I
know of.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
It was a man, hey, were you asking your dad did you
see those two women?
And he's like nope, didn't seea thing.
I guess could explain a lotright, let's, let's go a little
bit into this they, uh, yeah,they.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
They never admitted to it.
And then it was months back,maybe a year ago.
I talked to my mom about it and, uh, she just laughed and I was
like man, it's just, you know,the fact that she laughed about
it knows that she was, you know,lying her ass off for 18 years
and saying that nothing washappening when it was, and their

(57:11):
poor, their poor son, theirpoor little boy had to sit there
and and be haunted and whatnotbut what did the woman do?
uh, she scared the shit out ofme.
I still have dreams about thatchick, like, honestly, and no,
this is not a weird dating thing.
No, like it, she, I don't know.

(57:35):
I used to have dreams whereshe'd be like coming at me, like
with, with her armsoutstretched, and like like that
or some shit.
And then I, it was, it wascrazy.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
I I, yeah, like it was it dreams, or did you see
her in the house?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I've seen her in the house, but these dreams that
I've had later on, you know, uh,that they were her, yeah, it
was crazy wow, your dad didn'thave woman coming in out of the
house oh no, not my dad, no waynope, didn't see a thing.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
He says last night in the bedroom just before your
mom got home no, that wasn'tright your mom's like what?

Speaker 1 (58:22):
oh, everybody's talking um anyway.
So you said when you were a kid, you the paranormal stuff
happened, it's I mean well, Idon't know like those.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Those are my experiences, right.
So I also had a vividimagination.
I kind of didn't like going inthe basement.
That was always creepy, eventhough we had a finished
basement.
But also when I was a kid inthe 70s we had this like big
Mediterranean furniture.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Oh, that's awesome Right.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
And there was this big painting that was hanging in
the living room and it was, andour house was not big, it was
very small, so we had this big,oversized mediterranean
furniture in a very teeny, tinyspace and then this big painting
of like a, a knight right likea, like a spanish knight in
armor or something, and his eyes, I swear to god, would follow

(59:18):
me as I'd walk through theliving room and back and it was
the creepiest painting ever.
I don't know if you ever feltlike someone's watching you all
the time, you know, and on theother side of the wall was a
refrigerator, so it wasn't likeit was possible for you know,
for someone to be like in there,but there was always this
feeling of like somebodywatching you when you walked

(59:39):
through.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
It was creepy, really creepy, yeah like I said that's
scooby-doo type shit, remember,like in the scooby-doo cartoons
, and the picture to sit therefollowed and then they figure it
out whatever, and then yeahyeah so we are like an hour into
this and we, you know, maybewe'll get some more spooky stuff

(01:00:02):
going too.
But I want to talk a little bitabout plausible but you tell us
about that's.
That's.
That's what you should do sure.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
So plausible is an online platform designed for
comedians by comedians.
You're familiar with Etsy,right?
Yeah, okay, so on Etsy, it's amarketplace where people who
make stuff and then they sell itand then buyers come in and
they buy the homemade stuff thatthese people make.

(01:00:36):
So Plausible is a comedymarketplace.
So comedians can create theirfree account and they are given
the scheduling tools, theticketing services, the virtual
stages, everything they need toproduce and perform shows online
.
And then comedy fans can go inand create their free account

(01:00:59):
and they can go through theevent listings and the talent
directory and they can findshows that happen live in real
time.
It's not YouTube, they're notpre-recorded, so you have to
show up at a specific time, login and the comedian can see and
hear the audience, and theaudience can all see and hear
each other.
And it's performed online andcomedians have the opportunity

(01:01:20):
to earn money or create free,free events, whatever they're
choosing, and they're in thedriver's seat.
There's no gatekeepers, thereare no algorithms.
You don't have to have x numberof followers to earn money.
Um, you can sell one ticket,you're making money and you
don't have to jump through amillion hoops to make your
comedy happen.
That is what plausible is cool.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Well, that's really cool.
When did you start that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
So I had the idea about doing stuff online.
Actually, when I moved from NewYork to California and I found
myself spending more time intraffic than I did on stage and
I was like this is bananas.
Like how do I bridge this gap?
Like I want to work out my newbits, but I don't want to break
the bank in gas and I also don'twant to spend my entire life on

(01:02:08):
the highway.
So I was like what if I do somethings online, like on Skype,
because Skype was a thing at thetime.
And then also Zoom.
I was using Zoom for my day joband I thought that, but not a
lot of people were familiar withit.
It was fairly new.
And then life happened and lifegot lifey.

(01:02:29):
I continued producing in-personshows and doing all that.
And then, august of 2019 BC,before COVID, I started doing
open mics, because I had run anopen mic for over seven and a
half years in New York and Imissed it.
And I produced shows in NewYork.
I did all the things, and so Iwanted to get back into it and
connect, reconnect witheverybody.
So I started doing thingsonline using Zoom.
I had a website for my otherbusiness and so I just created a

(01:02:52):
page where people could sign upand people started coming and
they're like, hey, this isreally cool.
And then some people were like,why would I do that?
And then COVID happened andeverybody was doing things
online and everybody now likeZoom is like Kleenex, you know,
it's like everybody knows whatit is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Pretty much yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Yeah, and although it's great you know it's great
for many things it's notdesigned for stand up comedy.
You know it's it.
No one wants to go to a showand feel like, hey, I was just
here with Bob from accountingLike that's just weird, right,
it's a weird vibe andeverybody's like, oh, that was
pandemic.

(01:03:28):
I'll put that behind me.
But what I also recognize isbefore, you know, even during
COVID, we had to cobble togetherlike a place for people to sign
up and this for people to dothat and then try and duct tape
and bungee jump it all together.
Comedians, we don't have timeto be doing all that.
We want to spend our timewriting and performing.

(01:03:48):
And social media is great, buthow much content can you churn
that's actually meaningful andyou're proud of, you know, and
that's going to do anything?
Plus, it goes into the blackhole of social media.
How many people are actuallyseeing it?
And is it, you know, are youperforming?
So I thought, how can I solvethose problems?

(01:04:10):
So I ended up going back toschool.
I got my master's in innovation, entrepreneurship.
Like I want to immerse myselfinto the ecosystem, to like find
people who code, because I'm anon-technical founder, I'm not a
software developer and build ateam, and so, anyway, after I
graduated, I found the rightpeople and created a team and

(01:04:33):
shared my vision and we createdeverything all in one place.
So Plausible is online.
So if you're familiar withthings like Google Meet or Zoom,
you understand the concept oflogging into something and
seeing and hearing everybody.
But with Plausible, we have itset up so that not with like all
this animation or branding thatpeople would use in a podcast

(01:04:54):
or something like that, but setup in such a way that I can, as
a host, bring people to and fromthe virtual stage and I don't
have to click through to see myaudience on other screens.
It's set up in such a way thatyou can see the majority of your
audience and I can scroll if Ineed.
Like just as I would turn myhead left or right to pan an

(01:05:15):
audience in real life, I can dosimilar things online so that I
can read the room quickly.
I don't have the audio cutoutsand things like that.
So, like, if I am telling ajoke and someone coughs, it
doesn't cut off my punchline,that kind of thing, right, you
can hear multiple peoplelaughing at the same time.
So it's set up for stuff likethat, and also the ticketing

(01:05:37):
service is built in and thescheduling tools are built in
and we have a events listingpage and a talent directory so
that everything's there.
If you are using just a videoconferencing tool like zoom or
something, they're notadvertising your show on their
website, or you as a performeron zoom, like it's not going to

(01:06:01):
happen, but we do on plausibleand so, um, that's, that's a big
difference, is it's?
It's specifically for livecomedy that's freaking awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
I I love this.
I feel I might create anaccount.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
That would be awesome , I think I will too yeah.
Yeah, please do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
You're welcome, so let me ask you this Do you have
online open mics on there?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Yeah, we sure do, really.
Yeah, very cool, and that's theother thing.
Like there's open mics, there'sclasses, there's shows.
Some people do their podcast onthere.
Because you have the capabilityto record and download, so you
can redistribute.
You can also stream live toYouTube, if you wanted to do
that, so you could like, youcould invite your listeners to

(01:06:59):
be live in this audience andthen at the end you could do
Q&As hey, does anybody else havequestions?
And you can bring them to thestage and interact with your
fans, stuff like that.
Yeah, and then you can alsostill repackage.
You know, download andredistribute.
You can do all the things you'dnormally do Typically with your

(01:07:25):
podcast.
You know you can, can downloadit, take your audio, but do all
those things.
But if you want to add to that,you can add a live online
audience so that people can comein and and be your super fans,
and you could even sell ticketsto that or you could offer it
for free.
Whatever works for you that'sfreaking awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
So if you're a fan because I don't hear, this is I.
I know a good portion of ouraudience wants to hear
paranormal stuff, uh, but I feelthat there's a portion of our
audience obviously that that'shere for, maybe for comedy too,
like either me and dw'sinteraction or what funniness

(01:08:02):
might happen throughout the show.
But if they're fans of comedyand they don't want to leave
their house, right, get onplausible and just create an
account or do it without anaccount.
Can it just be a guest and goon there and, uh, look supposed
to be on so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
So currently you have to create an accountant and so
you log in and that's basicallyfor your protection.
We're trying to avoid like Zoombombing and things like that.
So if you guys are familiar, butyou should log in and then you
have access to the talentdirectory and the event listings

(01:08:41):
and, yeah, you can perusethrough and see what fits in
your schedule and you can go toany of the things that you want
to go to.
So, yeah, you can do that, andwe're going to make that
registration process even alittle bit easier this summer.
Not that it's hard.
You enter your first and lastname, your email and a password.
That's about it.
You have the option right nowto add other information about

(01:09:05):
yourself, but we'll probablystreamline that in the next
month or two.
But that's really all you haveto do and then you can take a
look around.
There's no social media feed.
Like you've got to see, like,what bagel so-and-so had for
breakfast.
No one cares.
Like you're there to see peopledo live comedy, like, and

(01:09:25):
comedians are there to do livecomedy, yeah, so it's not like
this other thing where, like,you have to do like tiktok
dances or anything like that,although those are fun and I
can't dance, but yeah so what doyou think about tiktok as a
comedian?

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
see, like I, I have my uh qualms about this and and
we can discuss that and that'sfine.
But, like as a comedian, what?
What are your honest thoughtson tiktok?

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
my honest thoughts as a human is like this is, like I
call it, doom scrolling,because all of a sudden you look
up and it's like, oh my god,what happened to like the day
you know?
Because how did I go down thisrabbit hole?
Um, I think it.
I guess I've heard people saylike they've made friends there.
I don't make friends like that,on things like TikTok.

(01:10:17):
I'm like, if you're DMing me,I'm like, wow, who are you?
Um, unless you're reaching outon the plausible stuff, then I'm
like, oh, okay, you're DMing me.
I'm like, wow, who are you?
Unless you're reaching out onthe plausible stuff.
Then I'm like, oh, okay, now Iknow why you would be reaching
out to me.
But I liked it when, like backin the day, when social media
came out and I know who I, Iknew who I was connected with,

(01:10:38):
like those are people I knew inreal life.
And then all of a sudden itlike you know, the person who
checked me out at the grocerystore with my groceries is
suddenly my friend on you know,facebook or something.
I'm like now I don't know whatto post because I don't know you
.
You know, but that's me and I'mnot.
I didn't grow up with socialmedia.

(01:10:59):
I grew up where you actuallypicked up the phone and called
somebody and got a busy signaland I'm like, oh, I guess
they're busy, call back tomorrowif it was the same way in your
house.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
But if you wanted to have a private conversation, you
stretch that freaking phonecard as far as you could, oh
yeah yeah, and you go sit on thebasement stairs or something
right yeah, totally, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
And then my brothers would pick up in the other room
and like play games and be likeha ha, ha ha and like hang and
see how it's horrible.
Like I didn't call peopleunless I had a reason to call
people.
It really typically wasn't,yeah, so, um, so I think tiktok,
I don't know, I like.
So let's talk about, likeyou're asking, maybe, about
comedians putting their stuff onthere.

(01:11:40):
I never even put my stuff outon YouTube as a comic because
I'm like if you watch me onYouTube, what are you gonna come
see when you see my show?
So like I'm not writing newstuff every, like I don't have a
completely new set every week.
Um, so at the time I was like,yeah, I don't want to do that,
because what if I do the same,some of the same jokes or

(01:12:01):
something and you haven't seenme before?
Then you would come and see meand be like, well, I just
watched that on.
YouTube and I guess that's why alot of people do crowd work,
because then it doesn't matter.
You're just doing random stuffand crowd work is controversial,
depending on who you talk to incomedy.

(01:12:22):
Is it really material to incomedy Is it really?
Is it really material?
I think it can be, if, first, Ithink people who do really good
crowd work have done it enoughthat they have the right
comebacks in their back pocketalready.
So it sounds fresh and casual,just like a set.
Right, your set is pretty wellrehearsed, but you perform it in
a way that it sounds verynatural and people are like, wow
, they're just naturally funny.

(01:12:42):
Well, that's, my job as aperformer is to make you think I
didn't spend six months writingand working out this whole set.
Right, but I don't know.
I also think for me, if I justwatched all of your stuff on
TikTok, I'm not going to comepay for a ticket because I just
watched you do all of thathonestly like why would I pay to

(01:13:06):
go see the same thing I justgot for free?
that's I mean not a lot ofpeople think about that no, but
I do because I know yeah,tickets are tickets are
expensive and if I've alreadyseen all your jokes, why would I
pay to go see?

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Also people.
I don't want to drive and bearound millions of people Like
I've become more introverted asI've gotten older.
But and I think COVID had a lotto do with that I'm like
leisure, I'm good.
So I think that those who do abetter job of not posting

(01:13:49):
everything online are morelikely to get me to come out.
Like Colin Jost if you go tohis Instagram, he ain't posting
all of his stuff online.
I'm like oh my gosh, I wonderwhat his standup's like.
I got to go see it and that'swhy I paid the ticket and we
went to do it, so that's.

(01:14:09):
But.
But by the time, everybodyposts a clip of their set I've
seen it all and you saved me gasmoney.
Like sounds terrible.
But that's also why I createdPlausible, so people could
actually get paid for an actualperformance, versus a clip they
threw up on social media thatthey get a bunch of likes for
for and they never get anycompensation.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Right, yeah, good point.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
I mean, what are you doing comedy for?
You're not even putting onsocial media, You're not even
getting an immediate response toknow if it was good.
I mean, I like a lot of stuffon social media.
It doesn't mean I listen to thewhole thing or laughed, you
know, but I'll support peopleLike you know, but I'll support

(01:14:56):
people.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
So I think if we're really performers and performing
is what I want to do, and howdo I drive people to that.
So my take is promote yourperformances, but I wouldn't
give away.
I mean, why buy the cow if youget the milk for free thing?
My, uh, another issue I havewith all these posts on social
media is a comedian maybe mayhave a really funny 30 second
joke, okay, but they're gonnaheadline.
They'll be up there for 45minutes.
How do I know that?
That one joke is just as goodas everything else they're gonna

(01:15:19):
do you?

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
know headlining and you look at the club like if if
they're headlining at the WaffleHouse, I might not think much
of a headline spot.
But if they're headlining atComedy Store.
I'm pretty confident thatthey're going to be good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Yeah, but point being , how do I know that that 30
seconds wasn't their only good,their best funny joke and
everything else is just not asgood?
It's a lot easier to be, youknow, really funny for 30
seconds as opposed to hold anaudience.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Yeah but I I've seen people send me their people have
sent me their reels when I wasproducing shows and it turns out
they put laugh tracks in reallywell and then they come and
they do the set and it's notfunny at all yeah, they're not
getting any laughs.
So highly edited reels, highlyedited clips.
Today is hard to harder to spotand so another good point, yeah

(01:16:13):
right, like that's the otherthing, people putting together
edited reels or clips, likeyou're right, I don't know that
they're good, but if I watchenough of their clips and
they're good, I'm like, well,now I, I don't need to go right
right it's.
I guess that's a fine line.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
You could go either way on that you know, yeah, I
have to ask you a question basedon the producer.
Okay, like I know we're gettingfar into the comedy in the
business, but, uh, as a produceryourself, like, how, how do you
book?

(01:16:51):
Are you booking on?
Are you booking on what they'resaying, how they're looking or
delivering it, or you know howthey look as they're saying it,
or are you booking on the clipitself?

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
I'm booking.
Are they a good comic?
Are they going to make myaudience laugh?
Um, so it's a total package,right?
It's not like I don't care howyou look, I care if you're funny
.
So if you're funny, that meansyour delivery is probably good.
You probably have well-writtenmaterial, and so I go by that.
And the other thing that I didwhen I was booking shows I don't

(01:17:34):
, I am not producing shows now.
I'm running Plausible, but I amnot the producer of all these
shows.
People are independentproducers on there of their own
mics and all of that.
I run my open mic on there.
But when I was producing showssorry disclaimer when I was
producing my shows in New Yorkand in California people, I

(01:17:58):
would request that people sendme a reel or something about
themselves.
And the other important thingis please don't assume I have
seen you before or I should knowwho you are.
Even if you think you'rewell-known in your area, a
producer or somebody might benew to the area or it's just

(01:18:18):
courtesy, just kind of tell themwho you are, because I've had
people like you don't know who Iam, then I don't want to be on
your show.
I'm like I still don't know whoyou are, you know what I mean.
Like OK, whatever, and I stilllaugh at that today.
Like you're probably not rightfor my, for my room, but I think
about where I am doing the show.
Like I was producing shows at atheater, at a bar, at bars, I

(01:18:44):
was doing it at coffee houses,and so I got to keep in mind
like where, where, what's mydemographic?
Who's usually showing up?
Is it other people in thatworld?
Is it people in New York?
They're different than peoplein California.
They were different people thanshowing up at a bookstore and
and and different than what Ilater found out was a coffee
shop run by Jehovah Witness andhe didn't want any cussing, but

(01:19:06):
he didn't tell me that untilafter the first couple sold out
shows.
So, even though I had theconversations with him, he
hadn't laid out any specific.
You know there was no.
You know, and I told him, likeyou know, I never know who I'm
going to get, other than youknow I screen them for good
comedy.
So, anyway, I think it'simportant to take into

(01:19:29):
consideration what I'm bookingfor and where I'm booking it at
and who's going to be theaudience Children, I'm not going
to have people dropping F-bombsor something like that.
So anyway, all of that said,when I look at who I book in the
same show, like I would I neverbook a show that's longer than
an hour, maybe 15, 20, becausepeople start getting up to go to

(01:19:51):
the bathroom and go into thebar.
You know it's, it's just toolong.
So that was my personal rule isI would try to keep it down.
So if I had six to seven comicson my headliner obviously lasts
, they would get the longestamount of time.
You know, 20 or so minutes,right, I would have a feature,
who would get seven to 10, andthen I would have a few guest

(01:20:13):
spots.
Those people got three to fiveminutes, depending on their
material, because it would givepeople a chance and it kept the
show moving.
If everybody in an hour and ahalf show gets 15 minutes,
people are getting really antsyin their sleep.
Because if you're not bookingall people who can legit do 15,
20 minutes, there's the lullsand it drags.

(01:20:38):
And as a host, my job is tobuild the momentum and have the
biggest bang at the end of theshow.
And so that's how I booked myshows.
And and when I looked atpeople's material, if I had a
lot of people doing, I'll givean example I was booking and I
had several comedians whohappened to be Jewish also met

(01:20:59):
in the same week and I was like,okay, I'm going to space them,
because if any of their materialis similar, that's three really
similar comics going together.
So I spaced them out.
I booked you on this week, Ibooked you on this week and I
booked you on this week, andthen I'd put in some different
comics.
I might put someone talkingabout relationships or someone

(01:21:19):
talking about sport, that kindof thing, if I kind of knew what
kind of vibe they had.
So it gave the audience variety, because if you get into a
whole one thing again it's alittle monotonous and drags
things out, unless it was athemed night or something.
Then you know like, let's sayit's Pride or something like
that, then you might take it ina different direction, in a
different direction.
But I thought of all of thosethings as a as a booker, because

(01:21:41):
my job is, I want, I want myaudience to keep returning every
week, because every single weekI had a different lineup so
that's how I did it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Any of the places that you you're like.
Okay, I love that.
I love how you're calling meout on it.
You know it's cool.
I love the explanation.
I I appreciate it really.
Um, because a lot of bookers II don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Sometimes I don't know what they really really
look for, like yeah, well,there's nothing worse than going
to a show and having theheadliner go like first or
second, and and then you're likeour headliners got to leave, so
they're going to do their bit.
And then everybody goes like inan in-person show.
It kind of changes the vibeRight by and then all of a

(01:22:43):
sudden you have like randomthree people do guest spots and
then you're like where is theheadliner I paid for?

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
you know, sorry, yeah , yeah, the show needs to move
along.
You know, like, that's like yousaid, your job as the host it
was to move along.
Big bang at the end.
And if you have people in therethat are stinking up the joint,
essentially, that's basicallywhat you're saying.
Yeah, yeah, the show's notmoving.
And then it sours people oncomedy.

(01:23:09):
They don't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Yeah, you got to keep the pacing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Throughout the whole thing.
Yeah, agree, 100%.
So plausible is a free service,right?
Um, and all you got to do islook up plausible and you can be
a fan, and if you're a comedian, you're watching this, you can
sign up and have an account.

(01:23:34):
Uh, yeah, it sounds a reallygood thing and I, like I said I,
I think I'm gonna, you know,subscribe and dwa feel might do
the same.
Yeah, it'd be really nice tohit some open mics without
leaving the house, not gonna liefor sure it would be.

(01:23:55):
That'd be really cool and I willnot perform in my closet well,
you gotta get out of there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
You gotta get out of there sometime you've been so
quiet you haven't made a asqueak.
Dw40, don't you want to callyou that?

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
um, uh, yeah, yeah, you're like don't ever do it
again, I will kill you yeah, um,there was Well someone called
me WD and the thing is, this wassomeone who I thought knew me

(01:24:32):
and then it's like off his notesso he obviously wrote it down
wrong, but at some point heshould have said wait a second.
That's not right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I would have said it, buddy.
I would have said it, I wouldhave fixed it right then.
I would have immediatelystopped what I was doing, fixed
it Well some people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
So people mess up my last name, which you know.
I've learned to just breezeright past it rather than bring
any attention to it, especiallywhen I appreciate when a the MC
or whoever's bringing me on justsays it with confidence, not

(01:25:22):
like I think this is how youpronounce it, just says you know
, dw Sarine, like if you say itwith confidence, I'm going to
pretend that's how it'spronounced and I'm just going to
continue on with the show andno one's going to.
You know, like I don't havematerial about that anyway, so
I'm not going to dwell on it.
So I'm just like let's movepast that and I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Yeah, people mispronounce my last name all
the time, though they'll sayleanne lewinsky oh gosh.
So so my opener is that's right, my name is leanne linsky, not
lynn, not lewinsky.
Uh, you should know we are twovery different people and, for

(01:26:02):
the record, I have never, ever,given a TED Talk, other than
that we're exactly the sameperson.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
But people will say Lewinsky instead of Linsky.
Yeah, so I just create a thingfor that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
Maybe there's one for you, yeah, and also, if they
call you WD, then maybe that'sshort for WWJD.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I just think they're thinking of WD40.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Yeah, probably.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Yeah, but I think there's a great joke in there
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
Yeah, I mean I've got several off the top, but I
don't want to offend youraudience, but I got really fun,
like there's some funny bits inthere, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Yeah, I don't care if you offend the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
I mean they know I don't care if I offend them
either.
It's hard to mispronounce, johnolson.
You probably don't get a lot ofpeople getting your name wrong
that's like a fake name.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Yeah, it's like it's so.
It's like a very easy commonname it's either that or smith.
You know, yeah, like just yeahand I know someone named john
smith.
It's every time my husband'slike oh, I'm talking, my friend.
I'm like, oh, the guy with afake name, yes, he's not real.
Like I'm just convinced hedoesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Yeah, that's good.
I mean I could.
It's pretty common, I think,especially now living in
minnesota.
I don't think, you can't, Ican't, you can't throw a frisbee
without hitting an olsen, so Idon't right yeah, also like if
you were on a dating app orsomething.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Someone tried to google you.
Good luck, right, unless I knewyou were a podcaster or
comedian, because then all theseother john olsens are going to
come up.
It's true, like the first thingthat comes up when you google
somebody, oh obituary, andyou're like, ah, they took a
dead person's name, you knowlike that's who I'm going to go
out with on Bumble or whateverit is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Listen, I'm not trying to brag and this is not
like egotistical or anything,but I I'm pretty confident.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
If you google john olson, I'm gonna be right I I
will probably be right up there,like that's good, you're on the
first page of google.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
You have maybe a ceo, I think I'm I'm gonna google
you right now I think you could.
Yeah, I think it's gonna beclose okay, uh,
j-o-h-n-o-l-s-o-n-s-o-n I meanthat's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
The only variation is if it's s-e-n or s-o-n so I got
a united states air force majorgeneral nope, that wasn't me I
got a wikipedia, oh, first.
Okay, so the first person whocomes up, so he John John Olson,
the, the Air Force guy he is onthe top right with a photo, and

(01:29:10):
then the top thing is Instagram.
John Olson, a graphic designerand art director in New York
City.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
No, no, that's not me , no.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
John Olson, a writer, an American poet and novelist.
That's his wikipedia page Imean I mean you're different.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
John olsen yeah, someone said there's john olsen
operations and supply chainmanagement.
Yeah, that's not you all right,that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
You guys are just hitting that ego.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
I I'm telling you is there no bit on the first page?

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
sorry, go ahead, dw damn, oh wait, and here's the
thing john olsoncom is uh.
Oh, so it's john s olson, andhe is, uh, assistant professor,
uh, in the school of educationand social policy at

(01:30:05):
northwestern do you work atgoldman sachs?
No, that's that, no, there ohand here it's um uh kara levin
investigates mankato mansentenced to 48 years in prison.
Is that?

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
you Yep, yep this is what people are seeing on your
dating app.
Okay, john Olsen guitar.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
And then abuse victim left for dead.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
Meryl Advisors.
Let's see Archives from SonicEditions johnny olsen johnny
olsen yeah family medicinedoctor uh, okay, all right
chronicler of the 60s, innovatorfor the blind yeah oh, here we
go.
Obits and funeral servicesthere's a whole database of John

(01:31:03):
Olson's obituaries.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
So when you, when I originally yeah, you know, I did
not think this was going tohappen like this.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
I'm on page four and I still haven't found it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
You didn't think you were going to be fact-checked on
your own podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
No, no, no.
Here, let's do this just togive him a chance.
You didn't think you were goingto be fact-checked on your own
podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
No, no, no, let's do this just to give him a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
John Olsen, comedian or Scolarius, and see what
happens.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
I was going to say, let's do John Olsen comedian.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
Okay comedian.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Oh my God, and the first video that comes up is you
needing to shave.
Oh yeah, that's a close-up.
So here's yeah, gig salad yep,mm-hmm, and then 2.0 yep, and
then your LinkedIn actor okayyeah, so there it is all right

(01:32:01):
and then murdered.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
No, okay I'm just kidding all right so john's like
and thanks for coming.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Bye-bye just a little bit there, okay, so you put the
comedian on there.
Boom, there it is but, also, ifyou type scolarius the name of
our show in Google, we had aGoogle homepage.
I mean, that's how freakingbadass I was Like you know what
I'm saying.
I'm not saying it's like thatright now, but it did.

(01:32:31):
It was there and I was likeholy crap, it's freaking awesome
.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
If you do, scalarius, the first thing that comes up
is the Spotify link.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Oh, it says it can in my AI overview says a type of
fly, a key value store and aspecies of lizard.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Oh, Scolarius, it misspelt it, it, it oh, okay, it
also has the uh simpsonscartoon picture, by the way.
Awesome, I don't know who I'mshushing in that picture.
It's john upset at somethingand me, yeah, when it doesn't

(01:33:21):
autocorrect my spelling.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
You are first with Scalarius, which I keep wanting
to say Scarylicious.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Well, I mean, that was the second name we picked,
but DW didn't want to do that,because he keeps emphatically
saying we're not a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Yeah, that might bring up a whole different,
different thing in the googlesearch.
Yeah, yeah, I think scolariusis a is a great name I.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
I didn't want to be known as a combination of scary
and delicious kind of like thehubba bubba bubble.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Remember that yes, do you guys remember the gum
squirt, where it squirted liquidinto your mouth when you bit
into it.
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
No, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Yes, look that up, squirt.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
It was pretty awesome .

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
It was like but then you had to spit it out after the
experience.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Right right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Like it peaked too early for gum for me chewing gum
.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Oh gosh, yeah it was badass, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
So, leanne, I have to ask you this and then we'll get
going with the rest of this,this shindig.
So you, you've been on the road, things like that.
Do you think that you ever hada paranormal experience in a
hotel that you stayed in?
Like would you know?

(01:34:49):
Does anything come up like?

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
that didn't involve alcohol, where I wouldn't
remember.
No, um, hmm, there have beensome scary hotels, you know.
No, none that off the top of myhead.
I feel like I'm losing mymemory.

(01:35:13):
Maybe it was a paranormalexperience that did that to me
and like, wipe things out.
Does that happen?

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
uh, only on men in black, but and some say that
that'd be that's a scary movietoo.
Um, but in a completelydifferent way.
So all right, and I don't careif this is paranormal related or
not.
What is the scariest thingthat's ever happened to you?

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
besides divorce, uh dating.
Scariest thing, oh, driving onthe 405 in california oh yeah,
that's horrible oh yes, I gotrear-ended.
That was terrifying.
To look in the rearview mirrorand see that the guy behind me

(01:36:02):
did not break, I was like oh mygod.
And then know that impact wascoming.
That was terrifying, yes that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
Okay, that's, that's fair.
I was gonna tell you the lasttime I was on the 405 it took me
three and a half hours to getfrom anaheim to la that's about
right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Yeah, it would take like living in long beach.
Going to the grocery storewould take 30 minutes and it's
maybe a mile or two away yeahyeah, it was stupid.
The traffic is insane, so yeah,another zero stars.
Do not recommend another yelppage needed is there a yelp page
for la traffic I think theremight be.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
Yeah, so I, I, we asked about the scariest thing
and and what about the mosthilarious thing that's happened?

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
see, we're gonna do the, we're merging okay besides
getting married, divorce, uh,driving on the la freeway.
Oh, recently I was on a on aplane and uh, coming back from
California and flying Southwest,fine, I was in boarding group C

(01:37:10):
, which means I'm like the lastperson on the plane and you only
have the smattering of likemiddle seats or something.
Any seat that has that requiresyou climbing over several
people.
So I first looked for a room inthe overhead, found an empty
spot, threw my bag up there,looked down and there was like,
okay, well, there's an emptyseat here, an empty seat here,
I'll go for the one that's rightnext to my overhead.

(01:37:31):
And I said to the lady I saidshe left the window seat open,
which is odd.
Both of them on either side.
I'm like, either way I have tocrawl over people.
So I said, excuse me, um, may,may I take that seat?
I see it's available.
And she was like, and she hadher purse on it and some other
personal belongings and like hertablet.
And she was like, and I couldtell she didn't want to give up

(01:37:54):
her seat right.
And so she, uh, she, I don'teven know if this is funny
anymore, it makes me mad.
But basically she picked up hertablet and goes you know what,
after like making me stand thereand wait for a really long time
what seemed like forever, shepicked it up and she's like
waves it around.
She's like you know, I'm notgoing to wear headphones, so you

(01:38:14):
should probably look foranother seat and I could feel
all eyes on me and I do not wantto be going viral for that and
I was like, really like, reallyI'm not, you're not gonna let me
sit there.
And she was like, and I couldfeel all eyes on me and I turned

(01:38:34):
around.
I go all right, well, okay, Igo.
Well, may I have the seatthat's available over there?
And the two people looked at meand they're like, yeah, well,
apparently she did it to thenext lady too.
The lady came up and said, mayhave that seat, and she's like
well, no, and that everybody hadturned and looked at me and the
two people I end up sittingnext to is like does she realize

(01:38:54):
she's on southwest?

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
like I don't right I was.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
I I don't know, it's just one of the.
It was funny and uh and alsoawkward, but that just recently
happened and I was like what iswrong with people?
I think since covid it's been alot worse yeah, and then at the
end of the flight, several momscame up and high-fived her

(01:39:21):
because she had a young daughternext to her or whatever, and
they're like people just don'tunderstand what moms go through.
I'm like I don't think you haveto be a mom to understand.
There's an empty seat youdidn't pay for, right like that.
Someone else needs a seat, likethat's.
It's a sold-out flight.
But yeah, I don't know thatreally wasn't hilarious, but

(01:39:42):
it's been on my mind.
There's a bit there somewhere,right, yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
yeah, also I would be scared of her.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
I would be.
She's scary.
People like that are scary,especially on planes, because
you don't know are they going toopen the door and throw you out
.
Mid-flight it could happen.
It happens.
People get in.
Did you hear about okay, otherscariest thing and also
hilarious, speaking of flying,did you hear about the delta
flight where a pigeon was looseon the plane?

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
yeah yeah, oh my gosh , one of my good friends, we
were talking about this.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
She goes.
Apparently it was a carrierpigeon like I was like stop it.
Yeah, but that's like putting abike on a car, like at what
point are you so lazy as a birdthat you have to hop a plane?

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
And then you get there oh shoot, I wanted to go
to Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
I mean right Legit.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
The bird gets there and its friend's like how was
your?

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
flight.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Oh shoot.

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
I wanted to go to.
Atlanta.
I mean right, Legit, the birdgets here and its friend's like
how was your flight?
Oh, my arms are so tired.
Around the cabin, All right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
That's funny.
All right, leanne, let's tellthe people where they can find
you.
If they want to Like, obviouslyit's going to be somewhere
around.
Plausible, but yes, definitelyplausible.
If they want to like, obviouslyit's going to be somewhere
around plausible, but, yes,definitely plausible.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
P, l, a, u, z, Z, a, b, l, ecom.
Plausible.
Why is it spelled that way?
Because somebody bought all thedomain names with normal and
reasonable spelling.
But, yeah, plausible with twoZ's a, b, l, ecom.
That's where you can find me.
I'm on there most days.
Uh, lots of comedians, hundredsand hundreds of comedians, uh,

(01:41:25):
that you can check out, anddifferent open mics and shows.
And if you want to find me asan individual, you can find me
on linkedin.
I am the only leanne linsky,and it's linsky, not the winsky.
You won't find a TED Talk on myresume.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
That's awesome, all right, well, leanne, we also do
a little thing.
It's called this or that, andbasically we're just going to
ask you a question and give youtwo answers, you just pick which
one, and it's pretty harmlessfor the most part, unless DW
gets rowdy, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
I see that happening.
Yeah, you can tell that I'm aloose cannon over here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
DW, is it my turn, it's your turn.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
All right, it is my turn.
All right, get ready for foodquestions, leanne, because
that's what I hit people with.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
All right, it's 10 minutes before he finishes with
breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
We are starting with breakfast as the most important
meal of the day.
Leanne your eggs.
Do you like them over easy orscrambled?
Scrambled over medium actuallyoh okay, bacon or sausage bacon,
nice, good choice.
Toast or bagels toast rye ryetoast.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
Okay, cut diagonally or just straight up and down I,
I don't care, it doesn't evenhave to be cut.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
All right, Fair.
Now do you dip your toast inthe egg?

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
Okay, nice, that's required.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
That's required, Egg potato, all the things.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Yeah, throw some hot sauce on there, yeah or salsa.
Oh, that too, Absolutely.
Oh, you can wrap it in atortilla.
See, now I'm getting hungry.
All right, do you like yourdonuts?
Like the regular cake donuts orlike a roll?

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
If they're a roll, they're not really a donut.
True and they're a roll, so Ilike a regular old donut.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
Regular old cake donut.
Now, if you were going to get aregular old cake donut, would
you get a chocolate donut?

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
Or one of those, just a glazed one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
Chocolate.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
Okay, and chocolate sprinkled or no sprinkles?

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
No, sprinkles All right, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
Just a straight chocolate donut.
Yes, that's badass.
All right, now we're going togo fly, and we're going to go
somewhere.
Well, maybe not flying.
That's up to you.
Would you rather drive or fly?
Fly?

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
I'd rather fly with a pigeon in the cabin than drive.
I have so much anxiety driving.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
I get it All right Now.
If you were to fly, are yougoing to fly to wonderful Las
Vegas, nevada or New Orleansduring Mardi Gras?

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Vegas yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
It's badass.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
I did New Orleans once and it was such a great
time Can't top it so I'm noteven going to try.
But Vegas all the time, becauseI lived there for 16 years.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
It's awesome All the time, because I lived there for
16 years.
Yeah, it's awesome.
I'm assuming you were thenconsidered a local so you didn't
live in paradise.
Henderson, where were you?

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
At one time I was in Henderson, but another time, I
mean when I first got out there,I was going to UNLV.
So I lived like right offcampus, yeah, yeah, to UNLV.
So I lived like right offcampus and then, yeah, and then,
uh, not on campus.
But well, I did live on campusmy first year and then I lived
off campus and then, um, I lived, I lived in various parts of I

(01:45:10):
mean, I was there for 16 years.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
I moved around a bit in the valley, but all over okay
, you notice how I said you werea local, because I know how it
is there, like locals go to oneplace and then everything.
Oh, I, went everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
Yeah, okay, I was in my 20s.
I was like I gotta check it allout, yeah I understand all
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Would you rather go to disneyland or universal
studios, universal?

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
okay, fair, I don't know, I've been, I don't think,
or Universal.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Studios Universal.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
Okay, fair I don't know, I don't think I've been to
Universal, so Universal yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
All right, see, these are new ones.
I tried some on DW last week.
Now I'm going to use them onyou the Simpsons or Family Guy.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
The Simpsons Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
Nice the Office or Seinfeld.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
Wow, you didn't even think on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Wow, am I showing my age, though?
No, not really.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
That was what I picked too.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
I've seen one episode me, me and the queen consort.
She sat me down, she goes.
You have to at least watch oneepisode which I've seinfeld,
you've only seen one yeah, I, I,I never got into it here.
Okay, I'm gonna say somethingand please, for the love of god,
if the guy ever hears me andwants to book me for any show,

(01:46:41):
I'm sorry, but I cannot standthe voice of Jerry Seinfeld.
Oh, no, oh alright, I laughedlike belly roll, laughed through
all of.
Everybody Loves Raymond.
I can handle his voice, I canhandle Ray Romano's voice, but I

(01:47:02):
cannot handle, I can't standJerry Seinfeld's voice.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Ah boo, I know Alright what else.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
So you said you like the Simpsons.
Are you a Homer Simpson guy orgal?
All right.
So you said you like thesimpsons.
Are you a homer simpson guy orgal, or a march simpson gal?
Homer nice, all right, alwaysgo for homer.
That's badass.
All right, nelson months orbart simpson or Bart Simpson

(01:47:42):
Bart.
Simpson Okay, all right, ittook a while and I was sitting
there thinking, wow, she got agame.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
It's not Nelson.
I mean, come on, nelson'shilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
Yeah, I mean, they're both funny.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
I understand.
The funniest thing I've everseen Nelson do wasn't even
Nelson, it was Milhouse.
To be fair, I know you rememberthis, DW Leanne, you might,
since you're a Simpson fan therewas an episode where Lisa gets
a crush on Nelson.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
Oh, and it's the guess who likes you?

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
See, I can't even get through this, it's not.
Yes, milhouse is helping Lisaand he passes a note to Nelson
and it says guess who likes you?
Nelson turns around and it'sMilhouse doing freaking eyebrow
wag or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
I don't remember and then the next scene is Milhouse
being carried away into anambulance.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
I'm so sorry Milhouse being carried away into an
ambulance.
I'm so sorry Milhouse, His earsare packed with gauze.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
God, that's hilarious .
But the funniest thing isMilhouse's eyebrows go up and
down and it cuts to Nelsonbeating the Like.
He doesn't physically do it onthe show, but you know that's
what happens and I lose it everysingle time because I just know
that that's gonna happen.

(01:49:06):
All right, well, I mean, youdisappointed me picking seinfeld
over the office, but I I get it.
I understand it.
We've had a pretty fun timetonight.
I want to let you know Iappreciate you coming on telling
us a little bit of the Hondastuff but, most importantly,
entertaining us and telling usabout that awesome format you

(01:49:29):
got with Plausible.
Like I said, I'm personallygoing to sign up and I feel DW.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
I will too.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
Most definitely hit some of those open mics and
maybe get a school area show upall in there.
I think that'd be fun that'd beawesome.
You're welcome to do so that'dbe great all right and well, um,
thank you again for coming on.
This was amazing.
Uh, yeah, anytime, and we canuh chat it up on the, on the

(01:50:03):
plausible or whatever, too atsome definitely definitely
awesome thanks, thanks so muchfor having me.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
It was a pleasure meeting both of you.
Talking with you uh, scarythings hilarious things see.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
That makes the show fun hilarious things hilarious
things, even you guys beatingthe shit out of my ego for like
five minutes that was great oh,dw, that's what the like.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
I saw the spark.
I saw the spark you know that'sokay.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
So, yes, we're not a couple, but I, you know, he,
he's impossible sometimes.
I, you know, I like, I'm theone I'm, I'm kind of the dick of
the show.
Okay, I might not be really,but I'm kind of the dick of the
show.
And here I am pouring my heartout, basically to the guy.

(01:50:56):
I'm like, you know, I reallymissed you, I really did.
I, I missed you.
You know, it was a long hiatusand I really miss you.
You know what this guy says tome.
He says now I know why peopledon't listen to the show because
you're bored.
Oh, it's true.

(01:51:17):
No, no, first of all, there'splenty of people that listen and
I feel they would disagree 100with you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
Dw, I am not boring, but the fact that I was nice, I
was nice and just you were nice,you were nice but, I don't
think that well, and again, thisgoes back to when you were
trying your own material and youdelivered it much more
enthusiastically than younormally do.
I don't think you realize howlow-key you really are when

(01:51:48):
you're just like you cannot getless enthusiasm.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
I think I'm fine.
My low-keyness is great andpeople enjoy it well, thank you
both for having me here andthanks for bringing up food now.
I'm starving well, I don't knowwhat.
What I'm assuming it's seattlejust go to a coffee shop, you

(01:52:19):
know the husband, he's cooking.

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
He's been cooking this whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Oh, damn well you guys you're five star chef for a
husband getting the smokesignals over here that it's
ready.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
Like I can.
I can smell it wafting in here.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
All right well, in that case you better go so you
know what that means.
Dw do you know what that meansthat you guys have been amazing.
We have been scolarius and weare out later.

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