September 22, 2025 • 64 mins
Ryan Gaul, comedian, actor, writer, handsome hunk, drop by Scaredycast to talk about his new movie that is crushing it on the film fest circuit, McCurdy Point. We had a chance to see it earlier this year and it's fantastic! We talk to him about the new movie, what makes you genuinely care about your horror characters, and more!
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(00:02):
Welcome to Scaredycast.
We're so excited.
We have an absolutely amazing guest and an amazing show in store for you this week.
Not only is a comedian, actor, writer, director, producer, you name it, he's done it.
And also, we're gonna probably dive into this, the love of Brian's life.
We're talking about Ryan Gaul, okay?
(00:23):
So thank you so much for joining us.
Nice!
Hell yeah, my print's charming, I love it.
I'd like to say I'm getting a lot of new information, but I sensed it.
I sensed it in Phoenix.
knew there's a little little part of each of our hearts that are meant to be together andthey will be.
They will be.
see, they said he's a director and all that stuff, but they forgot he actually has aresidency at the Luxor Casino in Las Vegas.
(00:49):
He's part of the uh the what's that?
What's the thunder from Down Under?
He's actually one of the he's actually one of the models on there.
one second for one second I was like oh no they got the wrong they read a Wikipedia thatwas a joke or something I was like I don't know if this is true but yeah I do I'm not a
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part of the residency of Thunder Down Under but I'll jump in once in a while yeah I gottaI gotta get my foot through the door and I once I did
in Australia for a minimum of two weeks before you can finally get in there.
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
I got no problem.
gotta keep them on their toes.
You can't be there every week, because then it's gonna be like, huh, you know.
(01:30):
So it's like, ooh, when is Ryan gonna be in here?
You, Kelsey, you speak like somebody who has experience with Thunder Down Hunter.
Hmmmm
tried to be a part of the production for so long, they just keep on turning me away.
I have my poster up and everything that for some reason, I don't know, they won't let mein the door anymore.
So we'll see.
(01:50):
waiting for Emilio, the one guy that got away like 20 years ago.
me a chance.
No, I mean, we all got an Emilio in our life, know.
um No, but we were talking a little bit before.
So I mean, you mentioned Phoenix Film Festival and it wasn't, you know, just the heat ofArizona, but that is where we were able to have, you know, all of like, well,
(02:16):
unfortunately I wasn't able to be there, but Tony and Brian, they saw your amazing film, ACurdy Point, which we're super excited to talk about, but.
So excited.
that is like wondering what's happening here, it's like, okay, there's history, okay?
We have lore.
I remember we were sitting in the we were sitting in the screening of a different film andour producer was like, those are the guys from Scaredy Cast.
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And I was like, where show me these fellas.
And that I that was my introduction to Scaredy Cast.
And then we immediately all like we we gelled the chemistry was there.
So I think we hung out the whole next day.
We like had beers late into the night and
yeah.
some beers, maybe they were white-claws, it doesn't matter.
(03:01):
It's fine.
and a couple ciders.
yeah, that's our little secret.
to put a put a little word out.
I think it was you, Brian, who put a little word out about McCurdy Point and veryappreciative of that.
Very first person ever.
First influencer to.
(03:22):
There was.
You.
Yo, and guess what?
Not only is this just like cool because we were there and stuff, like, guys, don't takeour word for it.
Like, this film is cleaning up.
yeah, dude, like.
think he's cool now, wait till you see him on camera.
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I was blown away because I'm like, I know that guy and he's Dude, it's amazing.
Please go see this movie.
And I'm not just saying that because I like him.
It's a good movie.
I appreciate that.
Truly.
We're very proud of it because it came for nothing.
And to get the response we've been getting, it's been really, it's been really cool.
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We're going to Atlanta in a couple of weeks.
You guys there?
You at the Horror Fest?
Make the road trip.
Make the road trip.
Okay.
to Atlanta?
I'm down.
I'm always up for a road trip.
just do our own version of the long walk and we'll be able to.
No, but okay, so we're talking about McCurdy Point.
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The boys were able to see it at Phoenix Film Festival.
Like Brian mentioned, it's making the film festival rounds and it has been getting so muchlove.
What, you're saying it started from nothing.
You're from Maine, it's set in Maine.
What was inspiration for this?
Can you give us some background for anyone that has not heard of McCurdy Point yet?
Yeah, during the last months of the pandemic, when a friend of mine, Jeremy, who you guysmet, one of the directors of the film, uh we were bored enough to, we were just so bored
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and we had to think of a small project that we could.
we could make.
uh We had always wanted to do a horror movie because we're both obsessed with horror umand we both are obsessed with found footage.
So we started writing cross country because he's in Boston.
I'm in L.A.
We started writing this kind of outline slash script um and within a month we had itwritten and
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Then we were like, let's just go.
Can we just go make it?
Let's just find a way to go make it.
And we did a, we did a seed and spark and raise some cash.
And there was part of it.
I remember one, we were having a discussion with the other, the two directors, myself,Kyle, who's in the movie.
And we were like, maybe we should just wait a year or something and let things calm down.
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And originally it was supposed to be shot in the snow in the winter in Maine.
And we were like,
Yeah, we're all available.
Let's go now because something will come up and we won't make this.
So we literally put it together in a few months and went and shot it.
We shot it for nothing and depended on the all my all every single one of the favors thatI could ever ask in Maine.
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We called in and yeah, we left there like
in tears just going like, think we just made a movie.
I don't know.
And then, you know, 18 months later, we were like, we have to finish editing this movie.
And yeah, but we did.
We got it done.
took a long time, but that's what happens when you have no money.
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I mean, you have to do it when you're available and when you have an extra 500 buckslaying around for one special effects shot or I mean, and that's a bad special effects.
If you're doing it for 500 bucks here in trouble.
But we had good people who were willing to do it for, yeah, 20 bucks.
Yeah, yeah, you're my only favorite left.
(07:07):
ah Yeah, and then we started putting it into some festivals and we were worried becausepeople...
in the horror community can be very anti found footage and they want a traditionalnarrative film.
em And we found some of that.
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But for the most part, we've we've people have gone in and just enjoyed it as a story.
And because we didn't have a lot of money for special effects, we didn't have a ton ofmoney for big stunts.
We had to really depend on the relationship of the four main characters to kind of drive.
the enjoyment of the movie up until, you know, there's kind of a it's a roller coaster ofwe, we always pictured it as we're going to just ride it up slowly, slowly, slowly.
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And the last act will just take everybody on a wild ride.
That's what we did.
to just, you know, continually.
But ah this movie...
ah
This is a family show.
Ryguy here.
But I am obsessed with found footage, I think it's because...
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I don't know.
It's like, when you know it's a movie, you know it's a movie.
It's one of reasons why I don't really watching Blu-rays on old movies, because I can seethe wires, I can see the strings, I can see the zippers, and I'm like, nah, I don't want
that.
I want that veil.
But with found footage...
It's so genuine.
like seeing you walk around with your friends and like the genuine laughs, the genuine,like putting your arm around them because you feel sorry for them.
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Like that is real.
That is not acting.
It's acting, but it's real acting.
And, and I feel like you wouldn't be able, I mean, you could, you could have the wholelike, yeah, we're friends, you know, but it's like when you do it, found footage, you
don't have to say, look at us.
We have to write it in that we're
for best friends.
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just happens.
So like I love exactly and it's like that chemistry it's not like four strangers and youall have to act to like like each other.
No you all knew each other you all had that it was like literally like you just flipped ona camera and this shit really happened and I just love that because it doesn't I don't
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know why people want the fake it's like that feels real that's more scary to me.
Yeah, I always had a chip on my shoulder about it because I think I mean, I remember goingto the theater to see Blair Witch, not to age myself, but I was I was in there and I sat
next to two film students that I did not know.
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And the movie ended.
And as all of us did back then, we were like, what?
What was that?
What was that?
And we like people really did go.
Are there is that real?
there parts of that that are real?
Because that it had not really been done.
I mean, it been done a few times or not on that, not on the level and release of a filmlike that.
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And they were like.
This is this is garbage.
This is trash.
It doesn't deserve to be out here.
We've we've written things that should be made into movies and not this.
I'm like, a story is a story.
And there's a lot of different ways to tell it.
And found footage just because it's it's done in a you know, it's ah maybe done in anon-traditional way.
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I still think like, man, some of my favorite movies are are found footage.
I love Hell House.
I love oh
Things like the Bay if you ever see that it's a great found footage movie a touch creepcreep was one of the biggest influences in terms of like, know, how do we how do we make
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them feel secluded and never Never let other character.
Well, we didn't have the money for other characters or in coven we could we were like,well, we're doing this without testing a ton I mean, no, we weren't we were testing all
the time um but
ah You know, we creep creep did that.
We had like read the lore behind creep that they did it for like 500 bucks on a weekend.
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And I was like, that's so cool because it's so good and so well acted that it doesn'tmatter that, you know, you're not seeing dolly shots.
Oh, my God.
You kidding me?
So great.
And that's part of the we we also based sort of our dialogue on.
(11:43):
you know, mumblecore and trying to make it as realistic as possible and that the DuplassBrothers kind of nail that so well and...
uh
much of the movie was improv like did you guys end up making anything up on the spot or?
It had a full script and then so there were scenes that were completely unimprovised andwritten and a little more expositional.
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um And then but when we had a meeting before we started shooting and we told all theactors we were like authenticity wins no matter what.
If you have uh a feeling in the moment to do something and we can capture it, hey, we'reshooting.
We're not shooting on film.
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We can say don't do that again or we can say you're fired.
But but we'll never get a chance if you have an instinct to do something and you don't doit.
I hate myself.
So just do do everything you want.
Say anything you want.
But we always would go back and make sure we had the story down.
That was that was second place story.
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Brian here on mute.
Brian, you're muted.
There you go.
To give an example on top of what your story we we had uh the in the the leather face fromthe latest Texas Chainsaw Massacre, I think was like a Netflix thing.
uh But he was saying when he was auditioning, he the whole scene where there's just himdancing in the field, swinging his chainsaw, just losing his mind in this weird, crazy
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bliss.
That was completely
his idea and that's what got him the part and Exactly.
He was just like well, this is what I think the guy would do and he's like in this weirdfit of rage but like ecstasy but like Whatever he's just flipping out in this field, but
it's like this crazy 360 shot and it's very significant and That's what got him the partand he goes.
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Oh, I just did it.
I just felt it and I was like, that's like you said dude authenticity that is the
in the moment and that's why I found footage.
Yeah, and we we had the luxury and we shot over like 12 days.
So we didn't we hadn't filled We had left room for improvisation.
We had left room to be like, we should just get a shot of this or that and um
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I you know, that's how we were able to say like, do whatever you want.
We got the time.
I understand when you're on a set and they're like, don't do what you want.
Do what we wrote because we have very specific amounts of time and money for this.
So I always respect that.
But I've worked on things to where a director is like, fuck it.
Just to do that.
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The next.
Shot.
Don't tell anyone you're gonna do it.
I'm like, I hate it when you do that because I'm gonna look like the asshole but I'll ButI will do it for sure.
I have no fear Yeah, no
could be completely wrong in just assuming this, but like you're, I mean, you're a memberof the groundlings, which is insane to me.
Cause like every huge comedian and actor, at least like on the West coast, they've comethrough.
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mean, like Paul Rubin's and Elvira and Phil Hartman and legends have just gone throughthere.
So it's like to be part of that group, you gotta like, you gotta really, you know,
be in a comedy and be good at it.
So it's like, I can just imagine like, you're ready to shoot, but when you're on set andyou're filming, your brain just starts filling with like, wait, we could do this or this
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or this or like, we didn't know there was gonna be a tree here.
Like maybe we could do some of this tree.
Like, are you trying to just like, no, I gotta stay focused on the script and do this.
Like I can't get too crazy.
Well, yeah, that's a it's a great point.
I think the groundlings and most of the people in the film were groundlings, by the way.
uh But the groundlings has taught us to be fearless and not care because we're like you.
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You never.
Who was it?
Will Forte was uh a groundling as well.
And somebody described him once as like, yeah, he's amazing.
And they were like, you know, he didn't he didn't.
He wasn't coming in every week with 10 great sketches.
He was coming in with like nine incredible bombs and then one Grand Slam thing that wouldknock it out of the park further than anybody had ever hit it.
(16:28):
And you're just like, which would you rather uh somebody who
You know to continue the metaphor like is hitting singles in a with their jokes or youwant somebody to bomb bomb bomb BAM hit it out of the park for God's sake so every time I
go swing hard swing hard you might miss but you might hit it you know but yeah wait forexample when we uh
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Speaking of like improvising in the moment, we also had to improvise as filmmakers when wegot to the we got to the cabin that we were using as sort of our, you know, hero house.
um We have written most of the.
movie around this attic in the house.
And we were like going through and exploring and saying, oh, this will be great for thisscene.
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This will be great for this scene.
And I think it was Nick, who's the other director was like, and where's where's the attic?
And we were like, oh, it's got to be.
And we all kind of like looked at each other.
Oh, no, there's no there's no attic in there.
There's no attic.
I just remember being like, OK.
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Ha
First, first pivot.
First pivot.
Yeah.
Where's just is there a lake?
We need a lake to ah know.
it caused us to sort of like turn on a dime and be like, all right, how are we going to dothis?
We move something from the attic.
Actually, there's a scene in it where you look you look upstairs into the attic and yousee a little shadow movement.
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And we shot that like
six months later at the groundlings looking up into the costume attic at the thegroundlings in LA and just shoved it in but you can't you absolutely can't tell and
hopefully people won't be like it's a huge spoiler gall come on don't tell people that uhbut it is it's I see I see Pee Wee's costume oh no it was a
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minute.
m
It's gonna be like an IMDB like fun fact in the future now with that because that's likebut that's what the beauty of filmmaking and like being able to create is, you know, to be
able to do things like that and to be able to go out there.
You're saying like how people can be so divided with found footage.
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Obviously you love found footage.
How was it writing that from across you said you're a cross country doing that.
Like how was the writing process for you as you're like trying to make it as realistic aspossible?
trying to get those shots down, but you're not in a room together being able to go throughit.
Yeah, we did a lot of this a lot too much of this um then and occasionally we would wewould.
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pick somewhere and meet up for like a couple days and get an Airbnb and just write.
And we would watch a ton.
I bet you we watched like 50 or 60 found footage movies because we really wanted to go.
Why do people why do some people hate these?
And what we discovered is like, don't you don't care about a lot of the characters.
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People make found footage for the gimmicks and they forget to make actual characters youcare about.
And the ones that we liked, we were like, no, but I like I don't want them to
I you know so many horror movies people die and you're like oh
That's a good kill.
That's a really fun kill.
I love the way they like ripped out the spine.
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But if you can magnify that, if you can get an audience to fall in love with the characterbefore you do it.
And that was kind of our goal is like, let's spend the first 50 to 60 minutes of thismovie just letting an audience go like, I like them.
I like the way they talk to each other.
think they like each other and they treat each other with respect.
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They get in little fights and battles, but we start to care about that.
And now oh now we have to kill them all so Yeah
that like they try to do that, but it goes the opposite direction where it's like 50minutes like you're 50 minutes and you're like somebody needs to die now.
Like I don't care if it's all of them.
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Please.
Like I can't take these people no more.
But yeah, like.
It's like.
It's like, man, if I'm an hour in something better, these have got to be the most charmingcharacters in the world are.
somebody needs to die already.
Like, and thankfully with McCurdy Point, like everybody is insanely likable because of thechemistry everybody shares together.
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Yeah, because it comes off as authentic and real, like the movies about you know, like agroup of friends, they go up to a cabin for the weekend and bad things start happening.
And it's like, that's all I need to know about my movie.
And I'm like, that sounds great.
I'm in like, and then it's, you know, sometimes
It goes great like with McCurdy Point and then sometimes it's like, all right, I wanteverybody to die now and this movie to end.
(21:35):
So.
Yeah.
throw in one little schmaltzy thing, one little gem.
uh I can't imagine the amount of time, money, effort, everything that went into making anentire film.
And squeezing all of it into only 12 days of filming is bonkers, because there's moviesthat take 12 years to finish.
(21:58):
So.
First of all, that's insanely commendable.
um you said earlier that you had an idea that this was all going to be shot in the snow.
This was completely supposed to be in a snow winter movie.
So that would have changed the lake that you had mentioned.
It would have changed all different scenes because, I mean, travel, everything would havebeen even the the color palette would have changed.
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going into it, thinking this is my plan and then
Right, right.
And then you go, son of a bitch, like this is my thing and it can't happen.
And you're going, you know what, let's still do it anyways.
So as an artist, as a creator, I tend to be the perfectionist.
I'm never happy with my work because it's never done and I could always change things.
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But it's like, you know what, this didn't go the way you planned.
So you made it a different way and it's still the grand slam, right?
Like people are loving it and it's not even your original vision.
So it just goes to show like,
You know what?
Fuck it.
Adapt.
Still just put it out.
Because now look at what happens.
Even if it's not what you planned on.
Yeah, I, I, I, you're absolutely right.
(23:09):
You make it, making it is more important than making it the way you think it's going to bethe best because you'll never, it'll never be the best.
I, I, we used to call,
when we'd write scenes, we'd get stuck a little bit and we were like, let's just shit.
Let's just shit one out.
Let's just shit out a scene and well, and it'll it'll be awful, but we'll shit it out.
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It's it's important to know what's not going to work.
So let's do it.
And even the idea of the snow, you know, for example, when I'm in the lake, originally I'mice fishing and I get
pulled in under like you see something pulled me in in the ice and we were like well howhow are we gonna do that and jeremy who was writing with me was like well we'll just make
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a hole in the ice and then we'll we'll like and i was like whoa i'm not i'm not going i'mnot going i'm not going underwater in a lake through the ice and he was like
But we were always like, we'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out.
And I was like, that one I don't want to figure out.
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I'd rather not.
But ultimately, we talked with an SFX guy who was like,
on these indie movies, man.
I totally I mean we didn't have a stunt crew there even when we were in the water it wasyou know I guess it was like late October or some mid-October or something that that water
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and I was pure naked pure naked in the water by the way we had we had
see Ryan's white ass.
You
so tan from the thunder down under work, but they had to...
The color...
(25:08):
The color...
for the rest of it?
rating for like the reasons why like it's rated R for like smoking drinking Ryan's whiteass like uh
It's a red, what do they call it when it's the red?
Yeah, the uh the trailer is a redline trailer.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
No, but that was so cold.
(25:29):
If I had literally if I had turned around, you would have seen nothing.
Yeah, it was.
And we had to in the the the
know, blame the cold water.
Cold water, I gotta blame the cold water.
was like, yeah, it was really cold.
Meanwhile, it's like 95 degrees.
But the young woman who played...
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our witch, we'll call her for lack of a better term.
She was in there as well.
And she was like a hundred pounds and didn't have the the layer of uh whale meat that Ihad on me to like keep me warm.
And she was in there for too long.
And I was like, if we were on like a set in L.A.
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or something, we would be shut down immediately for this.
But she was such a good sport, such a good sport.
She like never complained once.
we were in there together just like shivering and Also her husband is one of my my bestfriends and He was like you didn't tell me you were going in a lake naked with my my wife
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for For like two hours.
I was like, you didn't read the script.
That's all right
I know man, just, you know, I thought we were cool.
I didn't think I needed to, you know?
Like...
improvising!
It's supposed to be an ice fishing hole.
I don't know.
We're just here.
swimming sometimes, you know, it's no big deal.
m
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For all intents and purposes, we're joking, okay?
We're joking.
We're joking, we're joking.
No, but that is a good point.
never even...
Yeah, that's right.
But you know what?
Well, we'll just go on that.
Comedy and horror has, I think it's such a beautiful relationship.
You're talking about the reality and we were doing another episode and we're talking abouthow horror can be a release and it can be a way to be able to...
(27:30):
be transcended to another place, but it can also be very real, especially with foundfootage like you mentioned.
It leads you to a very like, this could happen, this might be happening.
um You like to be able to go in that fantasy world.
So I love that you have that relationship of comedy and horror together.
Do you feel that your improv background and your comedy background, because we're seeingso many comedians and so many people who are historically in that world are transitioning
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to horror recently, and it's been wonderful.
Yeah, it is.
It has been really wonderful.
I think it's like there's the you know, my my favorite
Directors in comedy have always especially on stage have said like the key to good sketchcomedy is staying ahead of your audience surprising them and heightening and I'm like
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Those are three.
mean those aren't the only three elements of good sketch comedy But there are three likethings that I try to keep in mind when I'm writing and I'm like, that's That's horror.
That's you want to stay ahead of your audience You want to surprise them and you want tokeep heightening?
So and I'm like
I think that's part of why it's enjoyable for comedians to either write or play in horrormovies.
(28:49):
I'm sorry, I think.
comedy too, and I have something that I really want to say because uh I if anyonelistening has heard of comedy bang bang This is a it's almost a deep cut but like Reggie
Watts from uh
What's that?
What's that night show with the...
What's that guy?
The British dude?
(29:09):
It doesn't matter.
Reggie Watts is now the house band or was the house DJ for this guy, but he all...
It all started with Comedy Bang Bang and if you're a real one, if you watched OG ComedyBang Bang, because that shit is so quotable and there's so many stars that now you guys
would be like, it's that guy and they're all on Comedy Bang Bang.
(29:30):
It's insane.
So the real ones out there know Comedy Bang
But I just gotta say I'm a fan.
I've always been a fan.
So it's kind of cool how uh like um How in are you with comedy bang bang like what exactlyhow are you related?
I'm not sure I'm in at all.
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know, comedy bang bang is such a anytime I get a call to do it.
It's such a treat.
It's basically like you go in with a character and Scott Ackerman, who's the host, justkind of screws with you for 45 minutes and vice versa.
You screw with hot saucer man and in person.
(30:13):
Woo!
mama.
But no, he's he's been so nice to invite me on.
I did a first of all, I did.
I met him doing a bajillion dollar properties, which was if you haven't seen it and you'rea fan of comedy, Bing, Bing, you should watch it.
It's it's really funny.
I'm really proud of it.
And it was a short lived.
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It was actually a long lived series on see.
So if you ever remember that platform, it was a comedy platform years ago.
But you can find it if you look for it, you can find bajillion dollar properties.
But that's where I met Scott.
That's sort of how I got into
to performing on Comedy Bang Bang.
I actually did an episode uh of the TV uh where Lynn Stewart played my, uh she playedScott's mom and I played Scott's brother.
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rest in peace, Lynn Stewart, that angel.
This was one of the last, this is in the last season.
Yeah, he had left.
think Weird Al was then the band leader.
That was a dream too.
Sweet guy.
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But anyway, Comedy Bang Bang is the best.
It's like, uh I mean, I got to tour with them through Great Britain um and I, you know,
Just that you never know what's gonna happen on those stages.
I've traded pants I trade I've traded multiple Pairs of pants with people and I'm like, Idon't know where that came from.
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I don't know why I continue to do it I but I love doing it the the I have people I'vegiven out my phone number um So many times that I wake up
pretty consistently to multiple texts from random people, multiple phone calls.
Sometimes in the middle of the night, I'll get like drunken voicemails from people goinglike, this isn't right.
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This isn't right.
I guarantee it.
Guarantee it.
But I, I, bullshit, I call bullshit right now.
And you know what?
You suck for even doing that.
But I love it.
I will never I have no regrets about getting my phone number.
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I've never I've never had any weirdos.
It's and I've gotten I would say at this point thousands of texts.
It's crazy.
Dude, I like this.
We need to start doing this.
a pretty incredible, hopefully we didn't just jinx it right now, but that's, you'rebatting an amazing average of not getting like weirdos.
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Yeah, no, like no pictures, nothing like, you know, once in a while somebody will saysomething like that's a little off, but not perverted or anything.
And I'm like, people always go like, why would you do that?
You're an idiot.
Why would you ever do that?
I'm like, I don't know.
Worst case scenario, I block somebody or I change my phone number.
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I get a new phone or.
There was a, uh
tomorrow, it was worth it for the last five years to have just the most random people.
Hell yeah.
See, this guy gets it.
I get it.
You guys should do that.
You guys should give out your personal phone numbers on yours and start seeing what youget.
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Don't do it.
Do not do it.
God, get enough random calls from collectors and telemarketers and spammers as it is.
couldn't imagine.
I do have one friend that usually two or three times a week.
He calls me at like three in the morning and leaves like a five minute long voicemail.
And it's just like, Tony, what the fuck are you doing right now?
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You sleep in Tony.
Get up, get out of bed.
There was a, uh, there was an episode of the Tom green show.
And this was like before, I mean like people had cell phones but not like we do now.
So I can only imagine if it happened today but like, remember his uh sidekick Glen?
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They were doing a game where if like Glen got something wrong, he like flipped over thething and it revealed one number from his phone number.
You
And so like the games going on and they're like revealing like one number and like they'llgo down and reveal another number.
And then it was like the week later, like Tom Green, like started the show, like recappingit.
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And he's like, but what we didn't realize was that the windows are here facing timesquare.
So everybody got his full phone number anyways.
So it was just like on display to time square on one side and on MTV on the other side,like
Sure, they didn't know, uh-huh.
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chef's kiss to that.
That's so good.
That's so mean, but it's so good.
Yeah.
you ever use like yeah like have you ever used any of these crazy texts or voicemails thatyou're gonna be like this that's not real whatever do you use it for like future sketches
or like have you ever like integrated it in any way
I a character that...
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is a financial planner, very bad financial planner.
And I have thought about sending a like a group text to 100 or 200 phone numbers andsaying, hey, can you just send me in your best testimonials for this guy, Doug Grope's
that I play and just use and then making a because my I have a dream to make a fakeinfomercial for this guy.
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And I want it.
But I want to have real
testimonials fake but real testimonials from people I don't know so they can say anythingthey want ah Just to see what I could get ah But I've never I have never used them.
I've never played an actual one I feel as weird as it sounds I feel like I would bebetraying trust of people who dared to call me
(36:34):
No, yeah, yeah, I don't mean that.
mean just like for inspiration, not actually playing them.
But I mean, yeah, power to you.
That's incredible.
Do you remember even how it started of like you just being like, yeah, I'll give you myreal number or like, you know how people have like apps or like burner phones or whatever,
like, I'll give you my like agent's number.
They can deal with it.
Totally.
was a mistake.
It was a mistake and I think it was on a...
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Was it on a tour?
No, was somewhere in the studio and I said, I started to say my real phone number.
3 I was like 310 blah blah blah like it like I shouldn't give it actually I'll say it 3109804053 that's my real phone number and I said 31098 and I stopped I said and Scott
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Scott said, say it.
It's your real phone number.
And I go and I finished it.
I go 980-4053.
And he said the same thing.
He was like, OK, after we were done, he was like, I'm going to beat that out.
And I was like, don't let's see what happens.
And he didn't.
And it's the best thing that ever happened.
I didn't.
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I'm telling you, like my phone hasn't been on my phone's ringer hasn't been on since Ibought a iPhone.
So I've never I don't
ever pick up the phone.
I don't the best.
So I have a million missed calls always.
So I'm like, well, the worst case is I'm going to have to go through a lot of texts andreturn texts.
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And I've I return every single one.
I returned something to them because they're all nice.
They're all like.
They'll all say like, hey, and name a character and be like, is this really you?
And I'll be like, yep, it is me.
And then they'll say like, hey, thanks.
Thanks for the laughs.
And I'll say, thank you.
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Thank you.
And that'll be as simple as it is.
But I'm like, I don't know what it is.
I now I'm on a streak of returning.
This is what I shouldn't say, because now everyone's going to be like, he will respond.
But I try to respond to every single one of them.
And
You're going to get text messages like Chris Farley, where he's just like, Hey, rememberthat scene in McCurdy point when you were in the lake and you came out, we saw your ass.
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That was awesome.
was awesome.
all me.
None of these are random people, it's all Brian.
He has like a thousand, somehow he's known you for years.
He's like...
just have a weird Google account where it generates phone number after phone number.
That's cool, man.
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uh
the unknown cat or the unknown numbers like mom but nice like instead of like...
But nice
Damn, okay, well, okay, so getting back to McCurdy Point, okay, I love talking aboutthese.
Like, honestly, like, this is so fun.
(39:37):
Like, we could have a whole episode about all the, like, that adventure itself.
But McCurdy Point, you're talking about you're gonna be in Atlanta soon, you know, foranyone that has not been able to see at a festival yet, you know, what you got coming up,
where can they see it, how can they find more information, and then we're gonna talk moreabout McCurdy Point, too.
Totally yeah, it's we're actually this is the it's probably one of the last Festivals willbe at um We just it's the Atlanta horror fest it is October
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I want to say 19th, but it's a Sunday of that weekend.
So whether it's 18th or 19th, I'm not sure, but it's at 5 p.m.
at the Atlanta Horror Fest.
Come on down if you're in Atlanta.
What else are you doing on a Sunday?
Watching football all day?
Probably.
That makes sense.
But yeah, it's going to be it'll be a blast.
I know that's a great festival and I haven't been to Atlanta for any horror, so I can'twait to meet that community.
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We were at Days of the Dead, Atlanta um last year.
It was so much fun.
um It was absolutely incredible.
It's such a great city too.
So if anyone, like you're saying, if no one has been to Atlanta, also they have a hugehorror community down there as well.
Everyone's so welcoming.
mean, the food is absolutely incredible.
It's gonna be a good time.
oh yeah, and you guys are coming now, which is gonna be even better.
(41:04):
That's awesome you guys.
Thanks for coming.
losing you a little bit.
if we're like, sorry, we're kind of like in and out.
So if you could restart that really quick.
a little delay.
I um said I can't wait to see you guys there too, because I know you've committed tocoming.
Yeah, Brian's gonna sell his car.
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you know, it's a
my body, everything that I have.
That's not any different than what you're already doing, Brian.
So we gotta think of something new so we can get down there, okay?
uh We're super excited.
Okay, so you're saying this is like one of the last film festivals that you're gonna bein.
What's the plan?
Do you guys have a plan afterwards?
Like, you know, are we trying to get streaming?
(41:47):
Are we trying to get in movie theaters?
I mean, besides, yeah, know, besides like Vegas shows, you know.
Totally.
are, uh we just signed on with a sales agent who's going to take us out.
went through a long process of deciding like who are we going to go with?
And, know, I don't know if you've ever, uh if you're familiar with that process, but it'ssort of like, it felt like dating or something where you had to like have all these
(42:17):
meetings with different people and.
Some of them were huge turnoffs, a lot of red flags.
And then we finally met this one guy and, um, and his company and we were like, he wasvery excited about the movie.
He's excited to sell it.
So we were like, let's do it, man.
Let's do it.
So, uh, that, that should start happening pretty soon.
(42:40):
So we hope that it's on a, you know, we hope it's on a streamer of some type, you know, Imean, I, I would hope by the spring.
That's really serious.
seem like the guy that would leak your own movie and I love that.
I am.
I am an I and I are.
(43:04):
You is and I could just feel it like if you're giving out your personal cell phone thismotherfuckers like you know what?
Fuck it.
I'll leak it who cares you guys could enjoy it
know, I'd send it to you guys.
just like a week ago, I think, where Ryan Reynolds, yeah.
Yes, please.
(43:25):
I would love to be able to see I watched the trailer and I was like, holy shit.
I need to see this movie.
I was so mad.
I was so like even just off the trail.
I'm like, this is a fucking banger.
Like I can already tell like and then just seeing all of the awards that you guys havebeen like getting in all of the different film festivals.
And that's like not an easy trek either.
There's so many people that enter into these film festivals and then even being able to gonot only be able to be accepted, but the fact that you're able to go and be able to meet
(43:52):
all these people that
are seeing the film that was so near and dear to you and is taken so long to really getout there.
You started in COVID and what has that meant to you to be able to meet weirdos like Brianwho wanna see your ass on the screen?
That's it.
I can't get any better than that.
(44:14):
No, it just gets us excited to make the next one.
That's it.
The process is grueling and long and expensive and oh
uh So many obstacles and everybody along the way is like it's not gonna work.
It's not gonna work It's not gonna work through from the beginning of writing it thebeginning of the idea to you'd like locking it as a film there are there's too many people
(44:41):
that go like
I don't know, man.
That's going to be tough to do that.
That road is tough.
Like whatever you want to do next, people discourage you.
And I've made it a point to remember that when I talked to anybody making a film to belike, dude, here's my phone number.
You go make you go make the goddamn movie and you and crush crush.
(45:05):
Dude, that's what you love to see.
The fucking like, dude, you ain't gonna stop me.
Tony knows, uh, because I think, I don't know if it was one of your best friends, someoneclose to you.
And they said, you know what, dude, Scaredycast, you ain't gonna make more than eightepisodes.
I guarantee you won't even make it to ten.
And we're at 300 now, bitch.
(45:27):
So suck it!
That's all I gotta say.
That's it.
But there's a lot of haters.
A lot of haters.
No, I interrupted you.
It's again the you start over with the.
ah No, that's such a testament like I think People you know there was like man.
(45:50):
I wish I could do that I wish I could make a movie Lala and it's like you know what if youwant to you can do it You just got to know it's it's a lot of work You got to be
surrounded by people that you know are dedicated and that you trust and that trust in youand you aren't gonna get a lot of people that like You know what you're not gonna do it
blah blah blah like you're saying haters and so I think Being able to hear this story andbeing able to know like along the way there could have been so many times that you're like
(46:13):
You know what fuck it.
You're right.
We're not gonna do this
It's COVID, we're traveling across the country, it's fucking cold in this water, we're notdoing it.
Or even like once it's like done and you're figuring out what to edit and like what'sgonna hit like the floor, you know, and you're just like, shit, there's so many times that
you could just be like, fuck it, I'm not gonna do this, I'm busy.
So I think it's really cool to hear your story like that.
Well, don't forget just real quick.
(46:34):
mean, Scaredy Cast, we started a couple of years ago, like really doing it.
Dude, if we never ever like stop doing one every single week since we started, like we'rewith Ryan Gault, like he's on our podcast.
Like if we never started, we wouldn't be here right now, but we just kept doing it.
(46:54):
And like, this is testament, you know, none of us are making money.
We're not rich or whatever, but like we have Ryan fucking Gault on here.
We did that because all we did is just did it.
We didn't do anything right or wrong We just did it and now we're here.
So there's your testament uh
Ryan Ryan fucking go.
(47:16):
have say we've done a lot of things wrong, but you guys haven't seen it.
You've just seen me here banging my head on my desk every other day.
Just like, why?
Fuck.
head on your desk.
Don't you think don't you think it's because you guys like each other though and when you.
When you're with people you like and you're working on a creative endeavor with people youlike, you can endure a lot of things and you can get past, you can get past not having
(47:44):
money.
You can get past having some down days because they're going to lift you up.
You can, you can get past the people from the outside trying to penetrate your head andsay like, Oh, come on, it's not good.
Or a bad review.
You, you read where you're like, Ooh, I don't like that.
Uh, you can get past that if you're with a group of people that you're like,
Yeah, I get to go see them and record or in my case, I get to go and write or make a moviewith them.
(48:10):
Exactly right like all three of us we have full-time jobs, and then we have to doscaredy-cat secondary You know so it's like hey if we had a full week, and you know the
weekend is a scary thing all right We're not getting a day off like that's just the way itis But that's what you have to do until it becomes your you know income if that's what
you're looking for But dude I mean that's huge like and and that encouragement of justlike look.
(48:32):
This is how it starts This is where you're supposed to be it's okay Just give it time justkeep going and it's like it's it's that simple
You know it sounds so cliche, but it's like take it from someone who's a professional likeYou have movies you have IMDB like you have lots of things because you just did it
(48:54):
I enjoy it.
I enjoy it.
I it's why like when I think I was waiting for you you guys to have me on because I waslike well they have a podcast I love doing podcasts where the hell are we're scared to
cast they asked me so when you guys asked I was like yes yes of course I will of course Iwill I want to talk to you guys I want to I want to come in the studio
(49:22):
well, he'll get to us eventually.
Yes, we'll have to have you like come into the studio when you're in Arizona, but you'reso right, like making things with your friends, like hell yeah, like you know what, like
are there any like behind the scenes stories, like you literally did a film with yourfriends, are there any behind the scenes stories that you can share with us, like kind of
stand out to you that were like particularly fun, or you're like, okay, this wouldn't havehappened with like a random group of actors.
(49:46):
God, mean, I remember we were.
mean, the whole crew was probably like, I don't know, probably like seven or eight people,plus the actors.
It was tiny.
And we had a few remember in the movie, there's a part where the the strippers come andthey they have a little fun with us.
(50:09):
um And then they take off suddenly and we had.
secured a specific truck to to use in their departure because we needed something sort ofmainish with a little character and a friend of mine was like yeah you can use my dad's
truck um it's an old like i think it was like an old 1972 ford something or other isn'tlike an old old truck but it was cool as hell and um
(50:40):
So we got to the scene before we were shooting that scene.
And I remember they were like, OK, we'll uh take a quick five minute break and then we'regoing to hit the uh truck departure scene.
Really cool.
Everyone's like cracking a Diet Coke trying to stay awake because there was an egg night.
um And somebody was like, wait, the truck scene's tomorrow, right?
(51:06):
And this was like our PA the truck scenes tomorrow.
And we're like, no, we're she it's on the call sheet.
We're doing it tonight.
He's like, we don't have we don't have the truck.
And I was like, this is like the nightmare of the attic thing happening again.
And we were like, we need we can't we have to use it tonight.
We had this is our only night time availability to do this.
(51:29):
And, you know, layered Macintosh who plays
the one of our main characters, plays the older bearded guy, Hollis.
He is kind of like Hollis in real life.
So he just grabbed the PA and he was like, he was like, come on, we're going.
And he was like, how far away is the truck?
(51:50):
Because we needed two people to go, one to take it and one to drive the truck back.
And this was a old stick shift.
And he was like, I can handle it.
And
They were like, it's like 40, it's like 45 minutes away.
And we were like, okay, we're going to start setting up and lighting with somebody else'scar.
And by the time you get back, we'll switch it out.
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Go, go, go, go.
It was like a Navy seal, like hitting.
They got in the car and they were like, they took to go what should have been about anhour and a half.
They were back in like,
An hour five they I'm shocked that they didn't get pulled over by police.
But that's one of the beauties of Maine.
There's probably like one cop in the whole state.
(52:31):
ah But yeah, that was a fun moment to watch layered who plays Hollis jump into action andrecognize where listen, we're all making this movie together.
I'll I'll do whatever.
I'll do whatever I have to do.
And if that means risking my life to get this truck here.
And by the way, when he pulled up in that truck, he was like, that truck doesn't driveeasy.
(52:56):
We're like, no.
ss ss
He's like, that thing's really a bitch.
Yeah, not easy.
You don't want to hit reverse.
Yeah.
God.
So great.
in neutral and be like on a downhill to be able to reverse it.
Yes, exactly.
(53:16):
That was fun though.
Ryan, I got two things before we wrap this up.
um First, I got a text message today from Chris Skorowski who wanted me to say hi.
Ah, Chris.
Chris, he's been an absolute stud, by the way.
He's one of our executive producers.
(53:38):
And I don't think we kind of brought him in later in the game.
But it was, you know, that scene and is it the
two towers where Gandalf, they see Gandalf at the top of the ridge and you're just like,oh thank God.
That's what it felt like when Chris came on board.
(53:59):
They're like, finally we have a chance against the Orcs army.
Ha ha ha ha!
I that you just referenced Lord of Rings right now.
That's fucking amazing.
By the way, Twin Towers is the best.
It's the best of it.
But how cool is it to be like for someone to reference you as like not only Gandalf, butyour Gandalf the White as he's coming to save your ass like from that future?
(54:23):
Damn, that's awesome.
both said twin towers and not two towers.
You both said twin towers and I'm like, this is a different kind of movie.
never forget when, Gandalf saved the...
you know what?
We're just we're true American patriots and it was just 9-11 and it's still on our mind.
We never forget.
OK, all right.
(54:44):
not not only not only do we never forget, we we can't forget and we force it into everyconversation.
Yeah.
my gosh, that's hilarious.
is Chris is amazing.
We love Chris he We got media passes to go to Midsummer scream and I told him and he waslike well hit me up when you get out there and let's arrange them I'll get you guys on
(55:12):
KTLA I'm like what the fuck we're like, We'll just be on KTLA.
We'll see you there and he'd like we went out there and he like got like we were featuredon you know, the whole segment about Midsummer and
talked about our podcast and stuff and it was like, I couldn't believe it.
Like I, I watch it almost every day.
(55:34):
I just
the dude is just...
so generous and so calm.
Ugh.
yeah.
I love that man.
I'm gonna give him a big old hug next time I see him.
ah And then the next thing, of course, is, you know, it's a horror movie.
So, um you know, McCurdy Point 2.
You know, if you guys ever needed some ideas on where to take the franchise.
(56:02):
You know, the next, you know.
Fast and the Furious or Space...
movie is going to, you know, get out there.
So there's going to be some podcasters that want to go to this house, investigate podcastsfrom it.
It's good.
What was going on?
You know,
not a horrible idea.
It's not a horrible idea at all.
(56:28):
It's not good, but it's not horrible.
No, I actually, I like that.
You know, we have like, every once in a while we'll get excited and be like...
When if it if it does OK, we would do it.
But right now we're working on Jeremy and I are writing a new horror movie, a traditionalnarrative.
(56:48):
uh And it is about a well, we don't know where it'll take place yet, but it's about a babyshower that goes south and it's only all female cast and uh a mysterious killer, sort of a
traditional.
uh
slasher a throwback to like real nasty slashers
(57:13):
I love it.
original as hell.
Yeah, I've never seen a...
you've seen a pregnant, I've seen pregnant like heroes, but I've never seen it likesurrounding the idea of a baby shower.
So we were like.
Let's do it, let's write it, let's write it.
We have a lot of talented female friends that would do this.
(57:34):
Let's get them all together and we're like a bridesmaids style comedy that turns into sortof a Friday the 13th style slasher.
Holy shit.
And if anyone's been to a baby shower, you know, you're like, it's kind of like a littlebit of a horror in and of itself.
(58:03):
That's that's super dope, though.
Hell, yeah.
OK, so you guys are still in the works on that one.
So TBD.
Oh, that's so exciting.
Well, Ryan, we love you.
I love you.
And I haven't even met you in person yet.
And but we we just appreciate.
And you were giving me all this shit.
Well, Brian, Brian, we'll keep, we'll keep Ryguy and Ryguy.
(58:26):
You guys don't worry, we're, no one's getting in between that, all right?
You guys, it's a sacred bond.
But we just, we appreciate you taking the time to speak with us.
We can't wait for your Thunder Down Under debut and you know.
hell yeah.
You know, do you guys sell?
like season tickets.
Where do I get a Scaredy Cast?
(58:48):
Do you guys sell merch?
Yeah, we send it to you though.
You don't pay for that.
you tell us which one you want and we'll send it you and what your size is.
We absolutely will.
in Atlanta when they do stuff.
I'll wear it there.
So people will be like...
Tony will send you the link.
Just tell us which one you want and we'll send it to you and what you're and what you're.
(59:09):
send me your address.
Tell me what size you need and I will send you shirts and all kinds of goodies.
We'll send you options.
I'll just buy it.
Maybe I'll just buy it.
I mean...
If you do, I'll refund you.
You bitch.
uh
like to...
Yeah.
(59:29):
Yeah, dude, if you buy it, I'm just gonna send you unsolicited dick pics every day.
m
uh
go check it and I bought 15 t-shirts.
uh I'll take 20 Oops I accidentally put two zeros at the end of the call what
(59:52):
no.
Sorry I tipped.
out?
You guys should probably restock.
I don't know.
oh
I guess I'll have to come into the store to purchase.
God, that's awful.
I guess I'll have to make a will call.
You
(01:00:12):
You
Okay, well for anyone who wants to keep up with you, keep up with McCurdy Point, keep upwith anything that's going on in your life, what should they do?
Yeah, best way is to follow me on Instagram.
um It is Rygall.
R-Y-G-A-U-L at Rygall.
(01:00:35):
I was about to give out my email, which I'm lost.
um I'm like, I'm so close to fully doxing myself.
uh
Okay.
Yeah, it's at Rygal.
(01:00:57):
Rygal.
And at McCurdy Point is the film's Instagram too.
And that kind of keeps you up on speed with where it's going to land and all that ifpeople are interested.
They better be interested.
Also, if anybody wants Ryan's address, bidding starts at 2000.
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So, I said it starts at two.
pretty high he's giving his information out for free.
You're just going to get my address.
Guilty!
We'll see you later!
out of the mailbox.
Yeah
motherfucker, yeah.
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You're my dad now.
You're my dad now.
you.
I love it.
I love you guys.
I am.
I am fans.
Huge fan to you guys and I will continue to follow you and I will wear a shirt and I'lltake a picture of myself wearing the shirt and there'll be other people and then I will
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come into studio when I come into uh Phoenix next.
I have to.
Yeah.
Please.
Yeah.
of Diet Coke stocked up for ya.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
think I've mentioned Diet Coke too many times.
You guys know I'm an addict.
right now I'm having, I'm trying to be better.
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So I'm having a spin drift.
for you.
I got an Oli Pop SpongeBob.
Little pineapple paradise.
That looks better than mine.
Mine wasn't very good.
Only because it has spongebob on it Well, thank you so much again Ryan Make sure to gofollow make sure to go find Ryan at Ry Gaul as well as McCurdy point at McCurdy point
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Hopefully Ryan the next time they were talking to you.
You haven't doxxed yourself anymore, but if you have
You always have a safe space with us.
And speaking of the safe space, make sure to go to ScaredyCast.com to learn all abouteverything that we got going on.
Amazing guests just like Ryan.
And if you are intrigued by the shirts that Ryan is gonna sell out, you better go thereimmediately so they don't sell out before you buy them.
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So thank you guys.
Thank you Ryan so much for joining us and thank you guys for listening.
We'll see you right here next time for another Cast is Good cast.
Bye.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Welcome to Scaredycast.
We're so excited.
We have an absolutely amazing guest and an amazing show in store for you this week.
Not only is a comedian, actor, writer, director, producer, you name it, he's done it.
And also, we're gonna probably dive into this, the love of Brian's life.
We're talking about Ryan Gaul, okay?
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So thank you so much for joining us.
Nice!
Hell yeah, my print's charming, I love it.
I'd like to say I'm getting a lot of new information, but I sensed it.
I sensed it in Phoenix.
knew there's a little little part of each of our hearts that are meant to be together andthey will be.
They will be.
see, they said he's a director and all that stuff, but they forgot he actually has aresidency at the Luxor Casino in Las Vegas.
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He's part of the uh the what's that?
What's the thunder from Down Under?
He's actually one of the he's actually one of the models on there.
one second for one second I was like oh no they got the wrong they read a Wikipedia thatwas a joke or something I was like I don't know if this is true but yeah I do I'm not a
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part of the residency of Thunder Down Under but I'll jump in once in a while yeah I gottaI gotta get my foot through the door and I once I did
in Australia for a minimum of two weeks before you can finally get in there.
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
I got no problem.
gotta keep them on their toes.
You can't be there every week, because then it's gonna be like, huh, you know.
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So it's like, ooh, when is Ryan gonna be in here?
You, Kelsey, you speak like somebody who has experience with Thunder Down Hunter.
Hmmmm
tried to be a part of the production for so long, they just keep on turning me away.
I have my poster up and everything that for some reason, I don't know, they won't let mein the door anymore.
So we'll see.
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waiting for Emilio, the one guy that got away like 20 years ago.
me a chance.
No, I mean, we all got an Emilio in our life, know.
um No, but we were talking a little bit before.
So I mean, you mentioned Phoenix Film Festival and it wasn't, you know, just the heat ofArizona, but that is where we were able to have, you know, all of like, well,
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unfortunately I wasn't able to be there, but Tony and Brian, they saw your amazing film, ACurdy Point, which we're super excited to talk about, but.
So excited.
that is like wondering what's happening here, it's like, okay, there's history, okay?
We have lore.
I remember we were sitting in the we were sitting in the screening of a different film andour producer was like, those are the guys from Scaredy Cast.
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And I was like, where show me these fellas.
And that I that was my introduction to Scaredy Cast.
And then we immediately all like we we gelled the chemistry was there.
So I think we hung out the whole next day.
We like had beers late into the night and
yeah.
some beers, maybe they were white-claws, it doesn't matter.
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It's fine.
and a couple ciders.
yeah, that's our little secret.
to put a put a little word out.
I think it was you, Brian, who put a little word out about McCurdy Point and veryappreciative of that.
Very first person ever.
First influencer to.
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There was.
You.
Yo, and guess what?
Not only is this just like cool because we were there and stuff, like, guys, don't takeour word for it.
Like, this film is cleaning up.
yeah, dude, like.
think he's cool now, wait till you see him on camera.
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I was blown away because I'm like, I know that guy and he's Dude, it's amazing.
Please go see this movie.
And I'm not just saying that because I like him.
It's a good movie.
I appreciate that.
Truly.
We're very proud of it because it came for nothing.
And to get the response we've been getting, it's been really, it's been really cool.
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We're going to Atlanta in a couple of weeks.
You guys there?
You at the Horror Fest?
Make the road trip.
Make the road trip.
Okay.
to Atlanta?
I'm down.
I'm always up for a road trip.
just do our own version of the long walk and we'll be able to.
No, but okay, so we're talking about McCurdy Point.
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The boys were able to see it at Phoenix Film Festival.
Like Brian mentioned, it's making the film festival rounds and it has been getting so muchlove.
What, you're saying it started from nothing.
You're from Maine, it's set in Maine.
What was inspiration for this?
Can you give us some background for anyone that has not heard of McCurdy Point yet?
Yeah, during the last months of the pandemic, when a friend of mine, Jeremy, who you guysmet, one of the directors of the film, uh we were bored enough to, we were just so bored
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and we had to think of a small project that we could.
we could make.
uh We had always wanted to do a horror movie because we're both obsessed with horror umand we both are obsessed with found footage.
So we started writing cross country because he's in Boston.
I'm in L.A.
We started writing this kind of outline slash script um and within a month we had itwritten and
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Then we were like, let's just go.
Can we just go make it?
Let's just find a way to go make it.
And we did a, we did a seed and spark and raise some cash.
And there was part of it.
I remember one, we were having a discussion with the other, the two directors, myself,Kyle, who's in the movie.
And we were like, maybe we should just wait a year or something and let things calm down.
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And originally it was supposed to be shot in the snow in the winter in Maine.
And we were like,
Yeah, we're all available.
Let's go now because something will come up and we won't make this.
So we literally put it together in a few months and went and shot it.
We shot it for nothing and depended on the all my all every single one of the favors thatI could ever ask in Maine.
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We called in and yeah, we left there like
in tears just going like, think we just made a movie.
I don't know.
And then, you know, 18 months later, we were like, we have to finish editing this movie.
And yeah, but we did.
We got it done.
took a long time, but that's what happens when you have no money.
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I mean, you have to do it when you're available and when you have an extra 500 buckslaying around for one special effects shot or I mean, and that's a bad special effects.
If you're doing it for 500 bucks here in trouble.
But we had good people who were willing to do it for, yeah, 20 bucks.
Yeah, yeah, you're my only favorite left.
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ah Yeah, and then we started putting it into some festivals and we were worried becausepeople...
in the horror community can be very anti found footage and they want a traditionalnarrative film.
em And we found some of that.
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But for the most part, we've we've people have gone in and just enjoyed it as a story.
And because we didn't have a lot of money for special effects, we didn't have a ton ofmoney for big stunts.
We had to really depend on the relationship of the four main characters to kind of drive.
the enjoyment of the movie up until, you know, there's kind of a it's a roller coaster ofwe, we always pictured it as we're going to just ride it up slowly, slowly, slowly.
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And the last act will just take everybody on a wild ride.
That's what we did.
to just, you know, continually.
But ah this movie...
ah
This is a family show.
Ryguy here.
But I am obsessed with found footage, I think it's because...
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I don't know.
It's like, when you know it's a movie, you know it's a movie.
It's one of reasons why I don't really watching Blu-rays on old movies, because I can seethe wires, I can see the strings, I can see the zippers, and I'm like, nah, I don't want
that.
I want that veil.
But with found footage...
It's so genuine.
like seeing you walk around with your friends and like the genuine laughs, the genuine,like putting your arm around them because you feel sorry for them.
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Like that is real.
That is not acting.
It's acting, but it's real acting.
And, and I feel like you wouldn't be able, I mean, you could, you could have the wholelike, yeah, we're friends, you know, but it's like when you do it, found footage, you
don't have to say, look at us.
We have to write it in that we're
for best friends.
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just happens.
So like I love exactly and it's like that chemistry it's not like four strangers and youall have to act to like like each other.
No you all knew each other you all had that it was like literally like you just flipped ona camera and this shit really happened and I just love that because it doesn't I don't
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know why people want the fake it's like that feels real that's more scary to me.
Yeah, I always had a chip on my shoulder about it because I think I mean, I remember goingto the theater to see Blair Witch, not to age myself, but I was I was in there and I sat
next to two film students that I did not know.
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And the movie ended.
And as all of us did back then, we were like, what?
What was that?
What was that?
And we like people really did go.
Are there is that real?
there parts of that that are real?
Because that it had not really been done.
I mean, it been done a few times or not on that, not on the level and release of a filmlike that.
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And they were like.
This is this is garbage.
This is trash.
It doesn't deserve to be out here.
We've we've written things that should be made into movies and not this.
I'm like, a story is a story.
And there's a lot of different ways to tell it.
And found footage just because it's it's done in a you know, it's ah maybe done in anon-traditional way.
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I still think like, man, some of my favorite movies are are found footage.
I love Hell House.
I love oh
Things like the Bay if you ever see that it's a great found footage movie a touch creepcreep was one of the biggest influences in terms of like, know, how do we how do we make
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them feel secluded and never Never let other character.
Well, we didn't have the money for other characters or in coven we could we were like,well, we're doing this without testing a ton I mean, no, we weren't we were testing all
the time um but
ah You know, we creep creep did that.
We had like read the lore behind creep that they did it for like 500 bucks on a weekend.
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And I was like, that's so cool because it's so good and so well acted that it doesn'tmatter that, you know, you're not seeing dolly shots.
Oh, my God.
You kidding me?
So great.
And that's part of the we we also based sort of our dialogue on.
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you know, mumblecore and trying to make it as realistic as possible and that the DuplassBrothers kind of nail that so well and...
uh
much of the movie was improv like did you guys end up making anything up on the spot or?
It had a full script and then so there were scenes that were completely unimprovised andwritten and a little more expositional.
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um And then but when we had a meeting before we started shooting and we told all theactors we were like authenticity wins no matter what.
If you have uh a feeling in the moment to do something and we can capture it, hey, we'reshooting.
We're not shooting on film.
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We can say don't do that again or we can say you're fired.
But but we'll never get a chance if you have an instinct to do something and you don't doit.
I hate myself.
So just do do everything you want.
Say anything you want.
But we always would go back and make sure we had the story down.
That was that was second place story.
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Brian here on mute.
Brian, you're muted.
There you go.
To give an example on top of what your story we we had uh the in the the leather face fromthe latest Texas Chainsaw Massacre, I think was like a Netflix thing.
uh But he was saying when he was auditioning, he the whole scene where there's just himdancing in the field, swinging his chainsaw, just losing his mind in this weird, crazy
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bliss.
That was completely
his idea and that's what got him the part and Exactly.
He was just like well, this is what I think the guy would do and he's like in this weirdfit of rage but like ecstasy but like Whatever he's just flipping out in this field, but
it's like this crazy 360 shot and it's very significant and That's what got him the partand he goes.
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Oh, I just did it.
I just felt it and I was like, that's like you said dude authenticity that is the
in the moment and that's why I found footage.
Yeah, and we we had the luxury and we shot over like 12 days.
So we didn't we hadn't filled We had left room for improvisation.
We had left room to be like, we should just get a shot of this or that and um
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I you know, that's how we were able to say like, do whatever you want.
We got the time.
I understand when you're on a set and they're like, don't do what you want.
Do what we wrote because we have very specific amounts of time and money for this.
So I always respect that.
But I've worked on things to where a director is like, fuck it.
Just to do that.
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The next.
Shot.
Don't tell anyone you're gonna do it.
I'm like, I hate it when you do that because I'm gonna look like the asshole but I'll ButI will do it for sure.
I have no fear Yeah, no
could be completely wrong in just assuming this, but like you're, I mean, you're a memberof the groundlings, which is insane to me.
Cause like every huge comedian and actor, at least like on the West coast, they've comethrough.
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mean, like Paul Rubin's and Elvira and Phil Hartman and legends have just gone throughthere.
So it's like to be part of that group, you gotta like, you gotta really, you know,
be in a comedy and be good at it.
So it's like, I can just imagine like, you're ready to shoot, but when you're on set andyou're filming, your brain just starts filling with like, wait, we could do this or this
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or this or like, we didn't know there was gonna be a tree here.
Like maybe we could do some of this tree.
Like, are you trying to just like, no, I gotta stay focused on the script and do this.
Like I can't get too crazy.
Well, yeah, that's a it's a great point.
I think the groundlings and most of the people in the film were groundlings, by the way.
uh But the groundlings has taught us to be fearless and not care because we're like you.
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You never.
Who was it?
Will Forte was uh a groundling as well.
And somebody described him once as like, yeah, he's amazing.
And they were like, you know, he didn't he didn't.
He wasn't coming in every week with 10 great sketches.
He was coming in with like nine incredible bombs and then one Grand Slam thing that wouldknock it out of the park further than anybody had ever hit it.
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And you're just like, which would you rather uh somebody who
You know to continue the metaphor like is hitting singles in a with their jokes or youwant somebody to bomb bomb bomb BAM hit it out of the park for God's sake so every time I
go swing hard swing hard you might miss but you might hit it you know but yeah wait forexample when we uh
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Speaking of like improvising in the moment, we also had to improvise as filmmakers when wegot to the we got to the cabin that we were using as sort of our, you know, hero house.
um We have written most of the.
movie around this attic in the house.
And we were like going through and exploring and saying, oh, this will be great for thisscene.
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This will be great for this scene.
And I think it was Nick, who's the other director was like, and where's where's the attic?
And we were like, oh, it's got to be.
And we all kind of like looked at each other.
Oh, no, there's no there's no attic in there.
There's no attic.
I just remember being like, OK.
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Ha
First, first pivot.
First pivot.
Yeah.
Where's just is there a lake?
We need a lake to ah know.
it caused us to sort of like turn on a dime and be like, all right, how are we going to dothis?
We move something from the attic.
Actually, there's a scene in it where you look you look upstairs into the attic and yousee a little shadow movement.
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And we shot that like
six months later at the groundlings looking up into the costume attic at the thegroundlings in LA and just shoved it in but you can't you absolutely can't tell and
hopefully people won't be like it's a huge spoiler gall come on don't tell people that uhbut it is it's I see I see Pee Wee's costume oh no it was a
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minute.
m
It's gonna be like an IMDB like fun fact in the future now with that because that's likebut that's what the beauty of filmmaking and like being able to create is, you know, to be
able to do things like that and to be able to go out there.
You're saying like how people can be so divided with found footage.
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Obviously you love found footage.
How was it writing that from across you said you're a cross country doing that.
Like how was the writing process for you as you're like trying to make it as realistic aspossible?
trying to get those shots down, but you're not in a room together being able to go throughit.
Yeah, we did a lot of this a lot too much of this um then and occasionally we would wewould.
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pick somewhere and meet up for like a couple days and get an Airbnb and just write.
And we would watch a ton.
I bet you we watched like 50 or 60 found footage movies because we really wanted to go.
Why do people why do some people hate these?
And what we discovered is like, don't you don't care about a lot of the characters.
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People make found footage for the gimmicks and they forget to make actual characters youcare about.
And the ones that we liked, we were like, no, but I like I don't want them to
I you know so many horror movies people die and you're like oh
That's a good kill.
That's a really fun kill.
I love the way they like ripped out the spine.
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But if you can magnify that, if you can get an audience to fall in love with the characterbefore you do it.
And that was kind of our goal is like, let's spend the first 50 to 60 minutes of thismovie just letting an audience go like, I like them.
I like the way they talk to each other.
think they like each other and they treat each other with respect.
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They get in little fights and battles, but we start to care about that.
And now oh now we have to kill them all so Yeah
that like they try to do that, but it goes the opposite direction where it's like 50minutes like you're 50 minutes and you're like somebody needs to die now.
Like I don't care if it's all of them.
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Please.
Like I can't take these people no more.
But yeah, like.
It's like.
It's like, man, if I'm an hour in something better, these have got to be the most charmingcharacters in the world are.
somebody needs to die already.
Like, and thankfully with McCurdy Point, like everybody is insanely likable because of thechemistry everybody shares together.
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Yeah, because it comes off as authentic and real, like the movies about you know, like agroup of friends, they go up to a cabin for the weekend and bad things start happening.
And it's like, that's all I need to know about my movie.
And I'm like, that sounds great.
I'm in like, and then it's, you know, sometimes
It goes great like with McCurdy Point and then sometimes it's like, all right, I wanteverybody to die now and this movie to end.
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So.
Yeah.
throw in one little schmaltzy thing, one little gem.
uh I can't imagine the amount of time, money, effort, everything that went into making anentire film.
And squeezing all of it into only 12 days of filming is bonkers, because there's moviesthat take 12 years to finish.
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So.
First of all, that's insanely commendable.
um you said earlier that you had an idea that this was all going to be shot in the snow.
This was completely supposed to be in a snow winter movie.
So that would have changed the lake that you had mentioned.
It would have changed all different scenes because, I mean, travel, everything would havebeen even the the color palette would have changed.
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going into it, thinking this is my plan and then
Right, right.
And then you go, son of a bitch, like this is my thing and it can't happen.
And you're going, you know what, let's still do it anyways.
So as an artist, as a creator, I tend to be the perfectionist.
I'm never happy with my work because it's never done and I could always change things.
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But it's like, you know what, this didn't go the way you planned.
So you made it a different way and it's still the grand slam, right?
Like people are loving it and it's not even your original vision.
So it just goes to show like,
You know what?
Fuck it.
Adapt.
Still just put it out.
Because now look at what happens.
Even if it's not what you planned on.
Yeah, I, I, I, you're absolutely right.
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You make it, making it is more important than making it the way you think it's going to bethe best because you'll never, it'll never be the best.
I, I, we used to call,
when we'd write scenes, we'd get stuck a little bit and we were like, let's just shit.
Let's just shit one out.
Let's just shit out a scene and well, and it'll it'll be awful, but we'll shit it out.
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It's it's important to know what's not going to work.
So let's do it.
And even the idea of the snow, you know, for example, when I'm in the lake, originally I'mice fishing and I get
pulled in under like you see something pulled me in in the ice and we were like well howhow are we gonna do that and jeremy who was writing with me was like well we'll just make
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a hole in the ice and then we'll we'll like and i was like whoa i'm not i'm not going i'mnot going i'm not going underwater in a lake through the ice and he was like
But we were always like, we'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out.
And I was like, that one I don't want to figure out.
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I'd rather not.
But ultimately, we talked with an SFX guy who was like,
on these indie movies, man.
I totally I mean we didn't have a stunt crew there even when we were in the water it wasyou know I guess it was like late October or some mid-October or something that that water
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and I was pure naked pure naked in the water by the way we had we had
see Ryan's white ass.
You
so tan from the thunder down under work, but they had to...
The color...
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The color...
for the rest of it?
rating for like the reasons why like it's rated R for like smoking drinking Ryan's whiteass like uh
It's a red, what do they call it when it's the red?
Yeah, the uh the trailer is a redline trailer.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
No, but that was so cold.
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If I had literally if I had turned around, you would have seen nothing.
Yeah, it was.
And we had to in the the the
know, blame the cold water.
Cold water, I gotta blame the cold water.
was like, yeah, it was really cold.
Meanwhile, it's like 95 degrees.
But the young woman who played...
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our witch, we'll call her for lack of a better term.
She was in there as well.
And she was like a hundred pounds and didn't have the the layer of uh whale meat that Ihad on me to like keep me warm.
And she was in there for too long.
And I was like, if we were on like a set in L.A.
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or something, we would be shut down immediately for this.
But she was such a good sport, such a good sport.
She like never complained once.
we were in there together just like shivering and Also her husband is one of my my bestfriends and He was like you didn't tell me you were going in a lake naked with my my wife
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for For like two hours.
I was like, you didn't read the script.
That's all right
I know man, just, you know, I thought we were cool.
I didn't think I needed to, you know?
Like...
improvising!
It's supposed to be an ice fishing hole.
I don't know.
We're just here.
swimming sometimes, you know, it's no big deal.
m
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For all intents and purposes, we're joking, okay?
We're joking.
We're joking, we're joking.
No, but that is a good point.
never even...
Yeah, that's right.
But you know what?
Well, we'll just go on that.
Comedy and horror has, I think it's such a beautiful relationship.
You're talking about the reality and we were doing another episode and we're talking abouthow horror can be a release and it can be a way to be able to...
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be transcended to another place, but it can also be very real, especially with foundfootage like you mentioned.
It leads you to a very like, this could happen, this might be happening.
um You like to be able to go in that fantasy world.
So I love that you have that relationship of comedy and horror together.
Do you feel that your improv background and your comedy background, because we're seeingso many comedians and so many people who are historically in that world are transitioning
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to horror recently, and it's been wonderful.
Yeah, it is.
It has been really wonderful.
I think it's like there's the you know, my my favorite
Directors in comedy have always especially on stage have said like the key to good sketchcomedy is staying ahead of your audience surprising them and heightening and I'm like
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Those are three.
mean those aren't the only three elements of good sketch comedy But there are three likethings that I try to keep in mind when I'm writing and I'm like, that's That's horror.
That's you want to stay ahead of your audience You want to surprise them and you want tokeep heightening?
So and I'm like
I think that's part of why it's enjoyable for comedians to either write or play in horrormovies.
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I'm sorry, I think.
comedy too, and I have something that I really want to say because uh I if anyonelistening has heard of comedy bang bang This is a it's almost a deep cut but like Reggie
Watts from uh
What's that?
What's that night show with the...
What's that guy?
The British dude?
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It doesn't matter.
Reggie Watts is now the house band or was the house DJ for this guy, but he all...
It all started with Comedy Bang Bang and if you're a real one, if you watched OG ComedyBang Bang, because that shit is so quotable and there's so many stars that now you guys
would be like, it's that guy and they're all on Comedy Bang Bang.
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It's insane.
So the real ones out there know Comedy Bang
But I just gotta say I'm a fan.
I've always been a fan.
So it's kind of cool how uh like um How in are you with comedy bang bang like what exactlyhow are you related?
I'm not sure I'm in at all.
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know, comedy bang bang is such a anytime I get a call to do it.
It's such a treat.
It's basically like you go in with a character and Scott Ackerman, who's the host, justkind of screws with you for 45 minutes and vice versa.
You screw with hot saucer man and in person.
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Woo!
mama.
But no, he's he's been so nice to invite me on.
I did a first of all, I did.
I met him doing a bajillion dollar properties, which was if you haven't seen it and you'rea fan of comedy, Bing, Bing, you should watch it.
It's it's really funny.
I'm really proud of it.
And it was a short lived.
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It was actually a long lived series on see.
So if you ever remember that platform, it was a comedy platform years ago.
But you can find it if you look for it, you can find bajillion dollar properties.
But that's where I met Scott.
That's sort of how I got into
to performing on Comedy Bang Bang.
I actually did an episode uh of the TV uh where Lynn Stewart played my, uh she playedScott's mom and I played Scott's brother.
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rest in peace, Lynn Stewart, that angel.
This was one of the last, this is in the last season.
Yeah, he had left.
think Weird Al was then the band leader.
That was a dream too.
Sweet guy.
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But anyway, Comedy Bang Bang is the best.
It's like, uh I mean, I got to tour with them through Great Britain um and I, you know,
Just that you never know what's gonna happen on those stages.
I've traded pants I trade I've traded multiple Pairs of pants with people and I'm like, Idon't know where that came from.
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I don't know why I continue to do it I but I love doing it the the I have people I'vegiven out my phone number um So many times that I wake up
pretty consistently to multiple texts from random people, multiple phone calls.
Sometimes in the middle of the night, I'll get like drunken voicemails from people goinglike, this isn't right.
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This isn't right.
I guarantee it.
Guarantee it.
But I, I, bullshit, I call bullshit right now.
And you know what?
You suck for even doing that.
But I love it.
I will never I have no regrets about getting my phone number.
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I've never I've never had any weirdos.
It's and I've gotten I would say at this point thousands of texts.
It's crazy.
Dude, I like this.
We need to start doing this.
a pretty incredible, hopefully we didn't just jinx it right now, but that's, you'rebatting an amazing average of not getting like weirdos.
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Yeah, no, like no pictures, nothing like, you know, once in a while somebody will saysomething like that's a little off, but not perverted or anything.
And I'm like, people always go like, why would you do that?
You're an idiot.
Why would you ever do that?
I'm like, I don't know.
Worst case scenario, I block somebody or I change my phone number.
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I get a new phone or.
There was a, uh
tomorrow, it was worth it for the last five years to have just the most random people.
Hell yeah.
See, this guy gets it.
I get it.
You guys should do that.
You guys should give out your personal phone numbers on yours and start seeing what youget.
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Don't do it.
Do not do it.
God, get enough random calls from collectors and telemarketers and spammers as it is.
couldn't imagine.
I do have one friend that usually two or three times a week.
He calls me at like three in the morning and leaves like a five minute long voicemail.
And it's just like, Tony, what the fuck are you doing right now?
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You sleep in Tony.
Get up, get out of bed.
There was a, uh, there was an episode of the Tom green show.
And this was like before, I mean like people had cell phones but not like we do now.
So I can only imagine if it happened today but like, remember his uh sidekick Glen?
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They were doing a game where if like Glen got something wrong, he like flipped over thething and it revealed one number from his phone number.
You
And so like the games going on and they're like revealing like one number and like they'llgo down and reveal another number.
And then it was like the week later, like Tom Green, like started the show, like recappingit.
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And he's like, but what we didn't realize was that the windows are here facing timesquare.
So everybody got his full phone number anyways.
So it was just like on display to time square on one side and on MTV on the other side,like
Sure, they didn't know, uh-huh.
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chef's kiss to that.
That's so good.
That's so mean, but it's so good.
Yeah.
you ever use like yeah like have you ever used any of these crazy texts or voicemails thatyou're gonna be like this that's not real whatever do you use it for like future sketches
or like have you ever like integrated it in any way
I a character that...
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is a financial planner, very bad financial planner.
And I have thought about sending a like a group text to 100 or 200 phone numbers andsaying, hey, can you just send me in your best testimonials for this guy, Doug Grope's
that I play and just use and then making a because my I have a dream to make a fakeinfomercial for this guy.
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And I want it.
But I want to have real
testimonials fake but real testimonials from people I don't know so they can say anythingthey want ah Just to see what I could get ah But I've never I have never used them.
I've never played an actual one I feel as weird as it sounds I feel like I would bebetraying trust of people who dared to call me
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No, yeah, yeah, I don't mean that.
mean just like for inspiration, not actually playing them.
But I mean, yeah, power to you.
That's incredible.
Do you remember even how it started of like you just being like, yeah, I'll give you myreal number or like, you know how people have like apps or like burner phones or whatever,
like, I'll give you my like agent's number.
They can deal with it.
Totally.
was a mistake.
It was a mistake and I think it was on a...
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Was it on a tour?
No, was somewhere in the studio and I said, I started to say my real phone number.
3 I was like 310 blah blah blah like it like I shouldn't give it actually I'll say it 3109804053 that's my real phone number and I said 31098 and I stopped I said and Scott
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Scott said, say it.
It's your real phone number.
And I go and I finished it.
I go 980-4053.
And he said the same thing.
He was like, OK, after we were done, he was like, I'm going to beat that out.
And I was like, don't let's see what happens.
And he didn't.
And it's the best thing that ever happened.
I didn't.
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I'm telling you, like my phone hasn't been on my phone's ringer hasn't been on since Ibought a iPhone.
So I've never I don't
ever pick up the phone.
I don't the best.
So I have a million missed calls always.
So I'm like, well, the worst case is I'm going to have to go through a lot of texts andreturn texts.
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And I've I return every single one.
I returned something to them because they're all nice.
They're all like.
They'll all say like, hey, and name a character and be like, is this really you?
And I'll be like, yep, it is me.
And then they'll say like, hey, thanks.
Thanks for the laughs.
And I'll say, thank you.
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Thank you.
And that'll be as simple as it is.
But I'm like, I don't know what it is.
I now I'm on a streak of returning.
This is what I shouldn't say, because now everyone's going to be like, he will respond.
But I try to respond to every single one of them.
And
You're going to get text messages like Chris Farley, where he's just like, Hey, rememberthat scene in McCurdy point when you were in the lake and you came out, we saw your ass.
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That was awesome.
was awesome.
all me.
None of these are random people, it's all Brian.
He has like a thousand, somehow he's known you for years.
He's like...
just have a weird Google account where it generates phone number after phone number.
That's cool, man.
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uh
the unknown cat or the unknown numbers like mom but nice like instead of like...
But nice
Damn, okay, well, okay, so getting back to McCurdy Point, okay, I love talking aboutthese.
Like, honestly, like, this is so fun.
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Like, we could have a whole episode about all the, like, that adventure itself.
But McCurdy Point, you're talking about you're gonna be in Atlanta soon, you know, foranyone that has not been able to see at a festival yet, you know, what you got coming up,
where can they see it, how can they find more information, and then we're gonna talk moreabout McCurdy Point, too.
Totally yeah, it's we're actually this is the it's probably one of the last Festivals willbe at um We just it's the Atlanta horror fest it is October
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I want to say 19th, but it's a Sunday of that weekend.
So whether it's 18th or 19th, I'm not sure, but it's at 5 p.m.
at the Atlanta Horror Fest.
Come on down if you're in Atlanta.
What else are you doing on a Sunday?
Watching football all day?
Probably.
That makes sense.
But yeah, it's going to be it'll be a blast.
I know that's a great festival and I haven't been to Atlanta for any horror, so I can'twait to meet that community.
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We were at Days of the Dead, Atlanta um last year.
It was so much fun.
um It was absolutely incredible.
It's such a great city too.
So if anyone, like you're saying, if no one has been to Atlanta, also they have a hugehorror community down there as well.
Everyone's so welcoming.
mean, the food is absolutely incredible.
It's gonna be a good time.
oh yeah, and you guys are coming now, which is gonna be even better.
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That's awesome you guys.
Thanks for coming.
losing you a little bit.
if we're like, sorry, we're kind of like in and out.
So if you could restart that really quick.
a little delay.
I um said I can't wait to see you guys there too, because I know you've committed tocoming.
Yeah, Brian's gonna sell his car.
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you know, it's a
my body, everything that I have.
That's not any different than what you're already doing, Brian.
So we gotta think of something new so we can get down there, okay?
uh We're super excited.
Okay, so you're saying this is like one of the last film festivals that you're gonna bein.
What's the plan?
Do you guys have a plan afterwards?
Like, you know, are we trying to get streaming?
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Are we trying to get in movie theaters?
I mean, besides, yeah, know, besides like Vegas shows, you know.
Totally.
are, uh we just signed on with a sales agent who's going to take us out.
went through a long process of deciding like who are we going to go with?
And, know, I don't know if you've ever, uh if you're familiar with that process, but it'ssort of like, it felt like dating or something where you had to like have all these
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meetings with different people and.
Some of them were huge turnoffs, a lot of red flags.
And then we finally met this one guy and, um, and his company and we were like, he wasvery excited about the movie.
He's excited to sell it.
So we were like, let's do it, man.
Let's do it.
So, uh, that, that should start happening pretty soon.
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So we hope that it's on a, you know, we hope it's on a streamer of some type, you know, Imean, I, I would hope by the spring.
That's really serious.
seem like the guy that would leak your own movie and I love that.
I am.
I am an I and I are.
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You is and I could just feel it like if you're giving out your personal cell phone thismotherfuckers like you know what?
Fuck it.
I'll leak it who cares you guys could enjoy it
know, I'd send it to you guys.
just like a week ago, I think, where Ryan Reynolds, yeah.
Yes, please.
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I would love to be able to see I watched the trailer and I was like, holy shit.
I need to see this movie.
I was so mad.
I was so like even just off the trail.
I'm like, this is a fucking banger.
Like I can already tell like and then just seeing all of the awards that you guys havebeen like getting in all of the different film festivals.
And that's like not an easy trek either.
There's so many people that enter into these film festivals and then even being able to gonot only be able to be accepted, but the fact that you're able to go and be able to meet
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all these people that
are seeing the film that was so near and dear to you and is taken so long to really getout there.
You started in COVID and what has that meant to you to be able to meet weirdos like Brianwho wanna see your ass on the screen?
That's it.
I can't get any better than that.
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No, it just gets us excited to make the next one.
That's it.
The process is grueling and long and expensive and oh
uh So many obstacles and everybody along the way is like it's not gonna work.
It's not gonna work It's not gonna work through from the beginning of writing it thebeginning of the idea to you'd like locking it as a film there are there's too many people
(44:41):
that go like
I don't know, man.
That's going to be tough to do that.
That road is tough.
Like whatever you want to do next, people discourage you.
And I've made it a point to remember that when I talked to anybody making a film to belike, dude, here's my phone number.
You go make you go make the goddamn movie and you and crush crush.
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Dude, that's what you love to see.
The fucking like, dude, you ain't gonna stop me.
Tony knows, uh, because I think, I don't know if it was one of your best friends, someoneclose to you.
And they said, you know what, dude, Scaredycast, you ain't gonna make more than eightepisodes.
I guarantee you won't even make it to ten.
And we're at 300 now, bitch.
(45:27):
So suck it!
That's all I gotta say.
That's it.
But there's a lot of haters.
A lot of haters.
No, I interrupted you.
It's again the you start over with the.
ah No, that's such a testament like I think People you know there was like man.
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I wish I could do that I wish I could make a movie Lala and it's like you know what if youwant to you can do it You just got to know it's it's a lot of work You got to be
surrounded by people that you know are dedicated and that you trust and that trust in youand you aren't gonna get a lot of people that like You know what you're not gonna do it
blah blah blah like you're saying haters and so I think Being able to hear this story andbeing able to know like along the way there could have been so many times that you're like
(46:13):
You know what fuck it.
You're right.
We're not gonna do this
It's COVID, we're traveling across the country, it's fucking cold in this water, we're notdoing it.
Or even like once it's like done and you're figuring out what to edit and like what'sgonna hit like the floor, you know, and you're just like, shit, there's so many times that
you could just be like, fuck it, I'm not gonna do this, I'm busy.
So I think it's really cool to hear your story like that.
Well, don't forget just real quick.
(46:34):
mean, Scaredy Cast, we started a couple of years ago, like really doing it.
Dude, if we never ever like stop doing one every single week since we started, like we'rewith Ryan Gault, like he's on our podcast.
Like if we never started, we wouldn't be here right now, but we just kept doing it.
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And like, this is testament, you know, none of us are making money.
We're not rich or whatever, but like we have Ryan fucking Gault on here.
We did that because all we did is just did it.
We didn't do anything right or wrong We just did it and now we're here.
So there's your testament uh
Ryan Ryan fucking go.
(47:16):
have say we've done a lot of things wrong, but you guys haven't seen it.
You've just seen me here banging my head on my desk every other day.
Just like, why?
Fuck.
head on your desk.
Don't you think don't you think it's because you guys like each other though and when you.
When you're with people you like and you're working on a creative endeavor with people youlike, you can endure a lot of things and you can get past, you can get past not having
(47:44):
money.
You can get past having some down days because they're going to lift you up.
You can, you can get past the people from the outside trying to penetrate your head andsay like, Oh, come on, it's not good.
Or a bad review.
You, you read where you're like, Ooh, I don't like that.
Uh, you can get past that if you're with a group of people that you're like,
Yeah, I get to go see them and record or in my case, I get to go and write or make a moviewith them.
(48:10):
Exactly right like all three of us we have full-time jobs, and then we have to doscaredy-cat secondary You know so it's like hey if we had a full week, and you know the
weekend is a scary thing all right We're not getting a day off like that's just the way itis But that's what you have to do until it becomes your you know income if that's what
you're looking for But dude I mean that's huge like and and that encouragement of justlike look.
(48:32):
This is how it starts This is where you're supposed to be it's okay Just give it time justkeep going and it's like it's it's that simple
You know it sounds so cliche, but it's like take it from someone who's a professional likeYou have movies you have IMDB like you have lots of things because you just did it
(48:54):
I enjoy it.
I enjoy it.
I it's why like when I think I was waiting for you you guys to have me on because I waslike well they have a podcast I love doing podcasts where the hell are we're scared to
cast they asked me so when you guys asked I was like yes yes of course I will of course Iwill I want to talk to you guys I want to I want to come in the studio
(49:22):
well, he'll get to us eventually.
Yes, we'll have to have you like come into the studio when you're in Arizona, but you'reso right, like making things with your friends, like hell yeah, like you know what, like
are there any like behind the scenes stories, like you literally did a film with yourfriends, are there any behind the scenes stories that you can share with us, like kind of
stand out to you that were like particularly fun, or you're like, okay, this wouldn't havehappened with like a random group of actors.
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God, mean, I remember we were.
mean, the whole crew was probably like, I don't know, probably like seven or eight people,plus the actors.
It was tiny.
And we had a few remember in the movie, there's a part where the the strippers come andthey they have a little fun with us.
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um And then they take off suddenly and we had.
secured a specific truck to to use in their departure because we needed something sort ofmainish with a little character and a friend of mine was like yeah you can use my dad's
truck um it's an old like i think it was like an old 1972 ford something or other isn'tlike an old old truck but it was cool as hell and um
(50:40):
So we got to the scene before we were shooting that scene.
And I remember they were like, OK, we'll uh take a quick five minute break and then we'regoing to hit the uh truck departure scene.
Really cool.
Everyone's like cracking a Diet Coke trying to stay awake because there was an egg night.
um And somebody was like, wait, the truck scene's tomorrow, right?
(51:06):
And this was like our PA the truck scenes tomorrow.
And we're like, no, we're she it's on the call sheet.
We're doing it tonight.
He's like, we don't have we don't have the truck.
And I was like, this is like the nightmare of the attic thing happening again.
And we were like, we need we can't we have to use it tonight.
We had this is our only night time availability to do this.
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And, you know, layered Macintosh who plays
the one of our main characters, plays the older bearded guy, Hollis.
He is kind of like Hollis in real life.
So he just grabbed the PA and he was like, he was like, come on, we're going.
And he was like, how far away is the truck?
(51:50):
Because we needed two people to go, one to take it and one to drive the truck back.
And this was a old stick shift.
And he was like, I can handle it.
And
They were like, it's like 40, it's like 45 minutes away.
And we were like, okay, we're going to start setting up and lighting with somebody else'scar.
And by the time you get back, we'll switch it out.
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Go, go, go, go.
It was like a Navy seal, like hitting.
They got in the car and they were like, they took to go what should have been about anhour and a half.
They were back in like,
An hour five they I'm shocked that they didn't get pulled over by police.
But that's one of the beauties of Maine.
There's probably like one cop in the whole state.
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ah But yeah, that was a fun moment to watch layered who plays Hollis jump into action andrecognize where listen, we're all making this movie together.
I'll I'll do whatever.
I'll do whatever I have to do.
And if that means risking my life to get this truck here.
And by the way, when he pulled up in that truck, he was like, that truck doesn't driveeasy.
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We're like, no.
ss ss
He's like, that thing's really a bitch.
Yeah, not easy.
You don't want to hit reverse.
Yeah.
God.
So great.
in neutral and be like on a downhill to be able to reverse it.
Yes, exactly.
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That was fun though.
Ryan, I got two things before we wrap this up.
um First, I got a text message today from Chris Skorowski who wanted me to say hi.
Ah, Chris.
Chris, he's been an absolute stud, by the way.
He's one of our executive producers.
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And I don't think we kind of brought him in later in the game.
But it was, you know, that scene and is it the
two towers where Gandalf, they see Gandalf at the top of the ridge and you're just like,oh thank God.
That's what it felt like when Chris came on board.
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They're like, finally we have a chance against the Orcs army.
Ha ha ha ha!
I that you just referenced Lord of Rings right now.
That's fucking amazing.
By the way, Twin Towers is the best.
It's the best of it.
But how cool is it to be like for someone to reference you as like not only Gandalf, butyour Gandalf the White as he's coming to save your ass like from that future?
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Damn, that's awesome.
both said twin towers and not two towers.
You both said twin towers and I'm like, this is a different kind of movie.
never forget when, Gandalf saved the...
you know what?
We're just we're true American patriots and it was just 9-11 and it's still on our mind.
We never forget.
OK, all right.
(54:44):
not not only not only do we never forget, we we can't forget and we force it into everyconversation.
Yeah.
my gosh, that's hilarious.
is Chris is amazing.
We love Chris he We got media passes to go to Midsummer scream and I told him and he waslike well hit me up when you get out there and let's arrange them I'll get you guys on
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KTLA I'm like what the fuck we're like, We'll just be on KTLA.
We'll see you there and he'd like we went out there and he like got like we were featuredon you know, the whole segment about Midsummer and
talked about our podcast and stuff and it was like, I couldn't believe it.
Like I, I watch it almost every day.
(55:34):
I just
the dude is just...
so generous and so calm.
Ugh.
yeah.
I love that man.
I'm gonna give him a big old hug next time I see him.
ah And then the next thing, of course, is, you know, it's a horror movie.
So, um you know, McCurdy Point 2.
You know, if you guys ever needed some ideas on where to take the franchise.
(56:02):
You know, the next, you know.
Fast and the Furious or Space...
movie is going to, you know, get out there.
So there's going to be some podcasters that want to go to this house, investigate podcastsfrom it.
It's good.
What was going on?
You know,
not a horrible idea.
It's not a horrible idea at all.
(56:28):
It's not good, but it's not horrible.
No, I actually, I like that.
You know, we have like, every once in a while we'll get excited and be like...
When if it if it does OK, we would do it.
But right now we're working on Jeremy and I are writing a new horror movie, a traditionalnarrative.
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uh And it is about a well, we don't know where it'll take place yet, but it's about a babyshower that goes south and it's only all female cast and uh a mysterious killer, sort of a
traditional.
uh
slasher a throwback to like real nasty slashers
(57:13):
I love it.
original as hell.
Yeah, I've never seen a...
you've seen a pregnant, I've seen pregnant like heroes, but I've never seen it likesurrounding the idea of a baby shower.
So we were like.
Let's do it, let's write it, let's write it.
We have a lot of talented female friends that would do this.
(57:34):
Let's get them all together and we're like a bridesmaids style comedy that turns into sortof a Friday the 13th style slasher.
Holy shit.
And if anyone's been to a baby shower, you know, you're like, it's kind of like a littlebit of a horror in and of itself.
(58:03):
That's that's super dope, though.
Hell, yeah.
OK, so you guys are still in the works on that one.
So TBD.
Oh, that's so exciting.
Well, Ryan, we love you.
I love you.
And I haven't even met you in person yet.
And but we we just appreciate.
And you were giving me all this shit.
Well, Brian, Brian, we'll keep, we'll keep Ryguy and Ryguy.
(58:26):
You guys don't worry, we're, no one's getting in between that, all right?
You guys, it's a sacred bond.
But we just, we appreciate you taking the time to speak with us.
We can't wait for your Thunder Down Under debut and you know.
hell yeah.
You know, do you guys sell?
like season tickets.
Where do I get a Scaredy Cast?
(58:48):
Do you guys sell merch?
Yeah, we send it to you though.
You don't pay for that.
you tell us which one you want and we'll send it you and what your size is.
We absolutely will.
in Atlanta when they do stuff.
I'll wear it there.
So people will be like...
Tony will send you the link.
Just tell us which one you want and we'll send it to you and what you're and what you're.
(59:09):
send me your address.
Tell me what size you need and I will send you shirts and all kinds of goodies.
We'll send you options.
I'll just buy it.
Maybe I'll just buy it.
I mean...
If you do, I'll refund you.
You bitch.
uh
like to...
Yeah.
(59:29):
Yeah, dude, if you buy it, I'm just gonna send you unsolicited dick pics every day.
m
uh
go check it and I bought 15 t-shirts.
uh I'll take 20 Oops I accidentally put two zeros at the end of the call what
(59:52):
no.
Sorry I tipped.
out?
You guys should probably restock.
I don't know.
oh
I guess I'll have to come into the store to purchase.
God, that's awful.
I guess I'll have to make a will call.
You
(01:00:12):
You
Okay, well for anyone who wants to keep up with you, keep up with McCurdy Point, keep upwith anything that's going on in your life, what should they do?
Yeah, best way is to follow me on Instagram.
um It is Rygall.
R-Y-G-A-U-L at Rygall.
(01:00:35):
I was about to give out my email, which I'm lost.
um I'm like, I'm so close to fully doxing myself.
uh
Okay.
Yeah, it's at Rygal.
(01:00:57):
Rygal.
And at McCurdy Point is the film's Instagram too.
And that kind of keeps you up on speed with where it's going to land and all that ifpeople are interested.
They better be interested.
Also, if anybody wants Ryan's address, bidding starts at 2000.
(01:01:19):
So, I said it starts at two.
pretty high he's giving his information out for free.
You're just going to get my address.
Guilty!
We'll see you later!
out of the mailbox.
Yeah
motherfucker, yeah.
(01:01:40):
You're my dad now.
You're my dad now.
you.
I love it.
I love you guys.
I am.
I am fans.
Huge fan to you guys and I will continue to follow you and I will wear a shirt and I'lltake a picture of myself wearing the shirt and there'll be other people and then I will
(01:02:04):
come into studio when I come into uh Phoenix next.
I have to.
Yeah.
Please.
Yeah.
of Diet Coke stocked up for ya.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
think I've mentioned Diet Coke too many times.
You guys know I'm an addict.
right now I'm having, I'm trying to be better.
(01:02:24):
So I'm having a spin drift.
for you.
I got an Oli Pop SpongeBob.
Little pineapple paradise.
That looks better than mine.
Mine wasn't very good.
Only because it has spongebob on it Well, thank you so much again Ryan Make sure to gofollow make sure to go find Ryan at Ry Gaul as well as McCurdy point at McCurdy point
(01:02:50):
Hopefully Ryan the next time they were talking to you.
You haven't doxxed yourself anymore, but if you have
You always have a safe space with us.
And speaking of the safe space, make sure to go to ScaredyCast.com to learn all abouteverything that we got going on.
Amazing guests just like Ryan.
And if you are intrigued by the shirts that Ryan is gonna sell out, you better go thereimmediately so they don't sell out before you buy them.
(01:03:11):
So thank you guys.
Thank you Ryan so much for joining us and thank you guys for listening.
We'll see you right here next time for another Cast is Good cast.
Bye.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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