January 30, 2025 • 32 mins
Bubba Startz delves into the distinction between conspiracy theories and facts, exploring the themes of awakening and global plans like Agenda 21. The conversation touches on tax slavery, government control, and media manipulation, highlighting the role of independent networks. Insights into the COVID pandemic are shared, emphasizing the importance of community and influential sources. The episode raises awareness about the UN Migration Plan and globalist agendas, advocating for questioning mainstream media and promoting individual education. Discussions on real-world issues affecting children, environmental concerns, government overreach, and civil liberties set the stage for a look at the political landscape and activism.
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The following program is part of the PatriotBroadcasting Project brought to you by the
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Welcome into the Patriot Broadcasting Network.
I'm your host, Bubba Starts.
And with me today on the show is my brotherTroy Winslow.
Welcome to the show, Troy.
Hey, man.
Thanks for having me, brother.
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Appreciate you.
Well, we've been friends for quite a while.
I don't know if we were in school together,probably not.
I think you graduated a little bit before me,but, the reason we came together today is
because we've both been on a journey, a journeyfor truth, a journey for educating and waking
up the people around us to the madness thathappens every day.
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And I I thought it was good for us to go aheadand record the conversation and to share a
little bit of our stories today for otherpeople that feel the same way.
Call us truthers.
Most of the world calls us conspiracytheorists, but I think as more and more time
goes on and the theories are proven true, Ithink we're just theorists.
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Are we theoretical human beings now?
Yeah.
I mean, there's well, that's one thing with theword conspiracy theory is a lot of people don't
know what the words actually mean.
They use the word conspiracy to mean theory orto mean fiction.
Where the word conspiracy is two or more peopleconspiring to do harm to another person or more
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than that.
So if me and you were were conspiring on howto, you know, to do a prank on somebody, that's
a conspiracy.
That is you and I conspiring.
The theory part of it is, well, I think thatthey're I think they are conspiring.
Whereas most of what I talk about and I share,it can be proven with official documentation or
the words out of their own damn mouth.
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So it's really not conspiracy theory.
It's conspiracy fact, and we're just basicallypointing it out and and and exposing it.
Right.
They are they are just conspiracies.
Yeah.
It's just conspiracies, man, and we're justpointing them out.
It it it's absolutely everything I say.
If I say that I can prove it, I can prove itwith their own words, their own documents.
I can prove it.
You know what I mean?
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And that's exactly why I really wanted tostart, you know, this adventure with you
because I have been brought to so much, youknow, your own research has led me to so many
facts.
And right out of like you said, right out ofthe horse's mouth, we're talking about military
documents, official documentation, proving alot of what, you're talking about all the time.
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So I wanted to start with a little bit of ourstory, and I and I want you to go first.
You know, what what is it that brought you tothe edge of the rabbit hole?
Well, you start with 09/11.
You know, obviously that day when the buildingscame down, me and my dad was a pyrotechnician,
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so he had a lot of experience with explosivesand stuff like that and knew a lot about
demolitions and whatnot.
So when the first two towers come down, thosedid not look like a typical controlled
demolition.
They looked like some form of controlleddemolition, but not the typical take it out at
the base and let it fall on its own footprint.
The two main towers came down floor by floorand you know you can see that in the video now
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you can see it popping out way below where it'sactually collapsing.
However Building 7 that was not hit by anythingthat came down at near free fall speeds symmetr
symmetrically at all four corners.
That was very obviously a controlleddemolition.
But I couldn't figure it out as a kid, dude.
Was like, what have I been?
Like 20, 19, 20 years old at the time.
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And I couldn't figure out the why.
Like, why would our own government do that,right?
And then a few years after that, I saw themovie, the documentary Loose Change, and that
gave me the why.
And that's when I woke up and startedunderstanding how governments work, how the
people that are in government work.
And that's I, that's where I started down therabbit hole was with that one.
09/11 was the big one.
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And then from there, dude, it was just, youknow, just reading and learning and and looking
at documents and like, when I really got pissedoff was I saw, I was reading into Agenda 21 by
the United Nations, and I was looking at thebiodiversity and wildlands project, and in that
project, they have a map that is color coded toshow you where no humans will be allowed.
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The idea of that project was to push everybodyinto mega cities, like 10 mega cities
throughout the country, and let nature go backto itself.
So on this map, it shows you the key and thecolor red symbolizes no human act little to no
human activity.
And the Black Hills Of South Dakota, my home,was was clearly covered in red.
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So I saw then, like, they have a plan to wipeus out and to move us all in the city.
So I thought, well, all I gotta do is expose usto people and and they'll be pissed off like
me.
And then I started telling people and all theycould do is roll their eyes, call me crazy, say
that'll never happen here.
And that so that's kinda where the journeystarted of being the the truther and the crazy
conspiracy theorist and all that shit.
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But
it's seeded in a love for your other humanbeings.
Like Absolutely.
The only reason that you would go out there andrisk someone calling you crazy is love.
You don't do you don't do it because you youhate them.
You know?
I'm not telling you this.
Their comment.
Right.
Don't benefit financially or any other wayother than living, other than surviving, you
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know, on my land, my own property where I'm at,and other than that dude, I'm a populist, yeah,
like, power to the people and I thought thateverybody would follow along and believe the
same thing I did, but a lot of people aren'teven willing to look and they'll say, I'd love
to see that.
You're like, okay.
I'll pull it up right here.
Like, well, I don't have time for that.
Like, well, I thought you said you wanted tosee it, though.
You know?
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But I get it, man.
Being good as they
say, ignorance and it well, and ignorance is isthere because we're also damn busy just trying
to survive.
And that's how they use the taxes andeverything that hopefully we're gonna see a
change in that over the next few years here as,you know, income tax.
I mean, we are tax slaves.
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A guy that I listen to a lot, Andy Frisella, hetalks about it all the time.
We've been living in tax slavery for over ahundred years now.
And every time that the little guy starts toget a little bit more power, they just assess
more taxes in the name of climate change orequality or diversity or all these buzzwords
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that they like to throw out there and withouteven having a political bent to it because
they've played and are playing currently bothsides.
The people in control don't wear red or blue,and and that's something that, you know, I I'm
sure a lot of people will see the name of ournetwork even and be like, oh, well, they're
just Trumpers.
You know?
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It's like, well, yes, I did vote for presidentTrump in this round.
And if I would have been in the country, Iwould have voted for him in 2016.
He was a very big reason why I came back fromMexico when I did.
Right?
It was an eye opening experience that the mediaand the these few that are in control of what
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actually reaches our eyes are completelyimplicit in this plan.
They have been the vessel for right, since TVand movie and radio has all been there.
Right?
I mean, and well before that as well.
But we just came into this age of now guys likeus can make our own networks, and we can make
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our own followings, and we can spread our ownmessages to the people.
And I just felt that it was so necessary tobring people and to bring people that are close
to me that I trust in to build our owncommunity and to begin this journey together.
This show and and what we plan to do movingforward is more about organization, is more
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about, you know, not just education becauseanyone can get educated at this point.
The information's out there, and a big part ofwhat we will do is to aggregate that and and to
begin to, organize that for people that you cango as deep as you want to go.
But the first step is in realizing that thereis a problem.
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And we're kind of in this wave right now wherea lot of people woke up to the communist agenda
that was being pushed on top of us that washiding a lot of these more nefarious things
that we're talking about and that we're seeingnow.
I mean, California is on fire.
That's not natural.
That is not that is not just climate change,drying it out and effect.
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No.
That's not what it is.
It is the effect of direct energy weapons.
We know this.
We know we know the technology that they'reusing.
We are watching them do it in real time, butwhat do we do about it?
And the only way to get there is to beginorganizing, is to begin taking all of these,
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you know, people that have been pushed to thefringes and then all of us looking at each
other and being like, oh, well, there's a lotof us out here.
If we all came together, we would have somepower to affect some change.
So that is exactly what kinda brought us totoday.
You know, my big opening eye opening experiencewas obviously the the whole COVID pandemic,
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man.
I mean
Yeah.
Totally.
So I just don't then people I knew and peoplethat I saw that I didn't necessarily think of
as a sheep when you begin to push fear twentyfour seven, you know, a a ticker of how many
deaths are happening now.
Like, that's insane.
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That's insane, man.
That was the real eye opening to me is, like,not only is everything that my crazy friends
told me true, it's happening.
It's happening right now, and we better open upour freaking eyes.
And Yeah.
I it is no doubt ostracized me from people thatwould be fans of my music or fans of this or
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that that I rather.
Right?
I'm glad that now in my life, I don't I don'tneed all of those people.
Right?
I'm not playing the the game that themainstream media played and the game that they
sold us.
Right?
Well, you gotta be, you know, squeaky clean toeverybody, and you don't wanna ruffle any
feathers, and you don't know.
Fuck that.
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I'm here to ruffle your feathers.
If you can't handle your feathers beingruffled, then you don't belong on this planet
in this time anyway because it's gonna get alot worse before it gets better as evidenced by
the last four years of shit that has fallenupon us.
So to fix it is gonna take 20 times as muchwork as it did to get us into this mess, and
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it's gonna take a lot more time, and it's gonnatake a lot more people.
So we talked for, you know, a solid half houroff camera about how how do you how do you do
that?
And I think community community is the onlyway.
To is the only way.
Well and talk about that because I know youhave to be members of communities.
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You've been in this, you know, fifteen years.
You've been going down these rabbit holes.
It hasn't been an individual pursuit, I wouldassume, that you've had people around you that
have guided you in ways and, hey, man.
You should check this out.
So talk a little bit and maybe if you want toto, shout out some people that you follow to
begin this education process.
You know, you mentioned loose change.
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What was kind of the next thing for you thatwas like, oh, this is deeper than even that?
Do you do mean God forbid I say the name AlexJones is a big one.
Alex Jones has been telling the truth forthirty years, you know, screaming it.
He's he's he's got some wild antics.
He's hard to watch.
He's hard to listen to.
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But if you go and you read his articles, if yougo to that, like, info wars or any of any of
Alex Jones websites and you read the articlesand then you continue on, like, follow-up
yourself and go dig for that information,you'll find out that 99% of what Alex Jones has
ever said, all of it's true, man.
Mike Adams, the health ranger, another big one.
The guy sells probably the cleanest, mosttested food in the world.
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He's extremely he has he has super integrity,very willing to admit when he's wrong.
Will tell you, like, I don't know if this istrue or not.
This is what I believe, or he'll tell you.
I know for a fact it's true.
So those are probably the two biggest names.
Stu Peters has been another big one over thelast well, since COVID started is when he kinda
came out.
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But with everything, dude, I don't trust any ofthem a 100%.
So when they say something that I'm interestedin, I go dig.
And I'll dig and dig and dig until I can findsomething that establishes a sense of proof.
Like, again, documents.
Owning the weather by 2025.
It's a document.
It's on the it's on the Internet.
It's it's on the Air Force website right now.
The replacement migration plan that nobodytalks about.
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This is let me let me talk about this for asecond, dude.
So, there's a there's a document.
It's on the United Nations website right now.
If you go to Google and type in replacementmigration, it'll be the first option that pops
up.
It takes you to the UN's own website, and it isa full document.
I believe, like, a 100 and to a 118 pages orsomething like that that explains their plan on
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how to replace the populations of Europeancountries in The United States.
It's it's all in black and white.
It's on their own website.
So it's not some someone just made some shit upand put it on the Internet, dude.
It's on the United Nations website, but not onepolitician has ever mentioned I've never heard
a single politician ever mentioned thatdocument.
Trump's never mentioned it.
Biden, none of them.
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It doesn't Thomas Massey has never mentionedthat document.
So it gives me some idea that maybe they're allin on it because they're not pointing at the
absolute proof that it's a real thing.
So they keep talking about, oh, it's aconspiracy theory, the great replacement.
Dude, it's their own words.
They put it out for everyone to see it, and Ican't get anybody to even look at it.
So And
it's happening.
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How do you not deny the 30,000,000 people thatweren't here four years ago that are now here
in The United States?
And it's not just here.
I have friends in The United Kingdom.
They've gone through their own, and that's alot smaller place.
Right?
That's a little island.
Europe is almost done as far as, like, theEuropean culture and, you know, we're we're
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working on it here now.
I mean, we watched it.
I've watched been watching it for ten years inEurope, you know, then bringing in all the
different immigrants and and just Paris, Franceis not what it was when we were kids, man.
You know?
Right.
And it's mostly out.
It's literally written in black and white onthe United Nations website.
The title of the document is replacementmigration.
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Like, how can you deny that?
Right.
Well and and I think that we have less and lessof the denial and more of, like, a shoulder
strug.
Well, it's happening.
And what do you
do about it?
What do
you do?
Well, you organize.
Right?
You you you you start to develop communities ofwhich I'm sure those are out there.
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I know that, you know, we talked about how wedo this.
I think a Discord server is probably our startto pull some people over into that.
This is what we want to do.
This is this is to organize and to start to,you know, at least, at the very least, form
some support for all of us who have beencompletely destroyed mentally and emotionally
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by just speaking the truth.
Yep.
If we weren't stronger individuals, we wouldhave stopped doing this a long time ago, but
this is a calling for a reason, especially forme because I've been doing so many podcasts
lately, not all of them with the same topics,but, realizing how much it's changing not only
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myself, but the person on the other side of thecamera and on the other side of the screen and
realizing how similar all the situations arearound the world.
Right?
That it's not so much different, everywhereelse.
And this is a global problem.
It is a globalist problem.
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I don't I don't believe that yes.
While all humans are equal, I don't believethat we all have to be the same.
How boring.
No.
I'm saying that.
Yeah.
How boring is that?
We should all have different cultures, and tobe accepting of other cultures doesn't mean
that I have to let your let that means yourculture is my culture.
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Right?
Yeah.
And why would I travel to Mexico if just theMexican culture is now the American culture?
Or, you know, other you know, I've lived inMexico for a year and and and saw it firsthand
and and lived with these beautiful, amazingpeople there as an illegal alien myself.
You know what else I was?
A strain on their system.
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As one man with a wife and a child.
Imagine what, you know, 10,000,000 of thosewomen and children and then probably 20,000,000
military aged males.
Why are those why are they here?
Right?
Start asking some start asking some realquestions.
Not everybody's here because their life was sobad or they are seeking asylum or, like, just
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let go.
Let go of what you've been told and startfresh.
Start fresh and start coming to informationwithout a history.
Start coming to this information.
You
have to unlearn.
You know?
Right.
Well and it's more just like, just wipe itclean.
Just and I don't know how I don't know howeveryone, didn't do that with the way the
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election turned out.
Right?
Kamala was right in it.
She was right in it.
Right?
And then it's a landslide.
So y'all were fucking lying, and you've beenlying this whole time.
You pulled a coup twice.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
You've pulled a couple
of them.
I've told people, like, you don't have tobelieve me.
I'll I'll tell I can talk till I'm blue in theface, bro.
You don't have to believe me, but my biggestrecommendation to start is to stop believing
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your TV.
Stop believing mainstream media becauseeverything from the commercials, the TV shows,
the sitcoms, the the fucking news, all of it,dude.
It's all controlled.
It is all very, very finely controlled.
And if you don't believe me, look at the listof the of the mem of the of the staff that it
takes to create a TV show or a movie.
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There's a reason why it takes thousands ofpeople to do that shit because it's very, very,
very finely controlled.
You know, down to every little piece in thebackground of a movie is there for a reason.
Every painting, every picture on the wall,every number in the background is there for a
reason.
Someone had intentions when they put it there.
Then you gotta just wonder why.
Like, what is that there for?
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Well, it's to create a reality.
It's to create a reality of their choosing andnot of your own.
And, you know, teachings like, you know, Imean, you can go back to the teachings of
Jesus.
He was like, you can do all of this.
I don't like, you keep asking me to do miracleswhen you can do them yourself.
Like, why is this you know, why are you why doyou keep asking me to do these things?
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You can do them.
Right?
So how have we forgotten how powerful we are?
Well, we've forgotten because we sit there infront of that screen and we accept the reality
that is not our own.
Yeah.
Or you sit in school for for twelve years at adesk being told what to do where you have raise
your hand to ask if you can go to the bathroom.
That's a big one to me, bro.
Like, you're teaching a kid that he has to askpermission to use the restroom.
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Like, what is
what The basic.
The most basic of your needs.
Right?
And you have to ask if you can.
If you will you please allow me to go do that?
You know, like, that's and that's ingrained inyou from kindergarten all the way up, man.
You know, up until maybe your your high schoolyears, they start letting kids have a little
freedom now.
But, yeah, dude, and it's you're taught not tothink outside the box.
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You are taught to memorize what you're beingtold and then repeat that to the next person,
and you can obviously see the effects of thatnow.
That's probably why I spend so much time in inschool suspension.
That's why I had to take an alternative to makeit through school, bro, because good and I
couldn't do the the standard curriculum and allthat shit, dude.
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I couldn't do it.
No.
And I don't think that a lot of us that haveraised Troy, you're a little bit older than me,
but not by much.
I would say we're in that same generation thatwe're not raising our children like that.
You know, my kids go to school every day, andthey participate in that.
But when they come home, I I'm not, you know,I'm not holding back anything from them.
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I am teaching you right now.
One big thing to me is, you know, why are wenot taught about, you know, the effects that
the sun has on not just our planet, but thewhole solar system.
Right?
The the magnetic, you know, I watch a a it'sSpace News on YouTube every morning now.
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And the first thing is, hey.
This is what's coming at us from the sun.
You got two days and a solar flare.
You know?
An x class solar flare is gonna hit.
These are the effects that it's going to have.
And it's like, how is this not the top of everynews broadcast in the country?
Like, why isn't that what we're saying is like,hey.
This is gonna be bad, but nobody's talkingabout it.
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And then bad stuff happens, and you're like,holy shit.
Well, we would have known that.
Right?
And the more studies they're doing, it's justit's phenomenal.
I absolutely love the program because they are,you know, tracing the magnetic pole shifts and
how every time that it's happened in the past,it has come with massive societal and geo
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geographical geological change.
Right?
How could it not?
And I explained it to my son.
It's like, imagine a magnet.
Right?
You got a magnet, and that's the Earth's core.
And right now, it's getting ready to flipcompletely over.
What would what kind of effects would that haveon you know, you think of the world as solid,
but we're really just all these masses that arekind of floating.
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Right?
Our crust is floating on top of this thing.
So you could imagine if there was a giant shiftinside of the Earth, like, what would happen?
Right?
And he's like, well, then it would, you know,it would reverberate out.
And he maybe didn't say reverberate, but he islike, well, it would have changes out here.
Yeah.
It's gonna have changes.
Absolutely.
Well, that's like you bring that up, thatbrings me to another topic that I've been
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called crazy for for fifteen, twenty years,whatever it's been, dude.
It's been probably twenty years now.
Chemtrails.
The the trails in the sky.
I saw that, so initially this goes, so when Iwas a kid I grew up in Colorado, not far from
the, I'm drawing a blank on the name of theairport, it was the airport that was in the
first Die Hard movie, it's where they filmedthat movie.
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Anyway, not far from an airport, open planes,you could see everything in the sky.
And so I grew up outside every day of my life,and I saw the sky.
And I know what a contrail is.
A contrail dissipates along with the speed ofthe jet, almost within seconds behind the jet.
It dissipates and they always did.
Never in my life as a child that I see acontrail stay in the sky and then spread out
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and become cloud cover.
Never saw that before as a kid ever.
So then about twenty years ago roughly, me andmy wife were driving to Spearfish and I see
these figure eights in the sky and I'm likewhat the hell is that?
She's like oh that's just the trail the planesleave right?
I'm like no, like contrails don't stay in thesky like that.
That's weird.
Came home, tried to find something out aboutit, couldn't find anything.
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Maybe a month or two later or something.
I'm watching a a video of Joe Rogan and EddieBravo doing jujitsu, and they chased there's a
lizard in the gym, they chased the lizardoutside.
Happened to look up with the camera.
Saw the trails.
They said the word chemtrail.
Like, okay, that's what it is.
So I started searching chemtrails, obviouslyfound a ton of information on it, and it all,
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like, it all made sense to me.
I had no way of proving it.
I've never tested the rainwater myself, so Ican't prove what's in it, but I have followed
some some pretty reliable people from likeformer military yada yada and then you got this
guy now, geoengineeringwatch.org.
This guy's fantastic.
Dane Wigginton is his name and he's fantastic.
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But everyone I've told, they go back to tellingme it's just contrails, it's just water vapor.
Okay, so here's my argument for that.
If let's say that it is just water vapor.
The fact that it's staying in the sky iscreating cloud cover, and you can measure the
difference on a solar panel on what it does asfar as stopping UV rays from hitting the earth,
why don't we look at that then?
If it's just water, why don't we figure outwhat effect it's having on us?
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Yeah.
If it is just water, we know that it makescloud cover, we know that it drops the UV rays,
What effect is that having?
Let's start there.
And if it is just right.
And if it is, then then take all the planes outof the sky.
We don't need to travel by plane anymore.
If it is destroying the Earth, right, and it iscausing less sunlight to reach us and heal our
mitochondrial DNA.
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Right?
Right.
And that's and when you start going down, youknow, Andrew Huberman and, god, I'm I'm spacing
on the other doctor.
He's been a guest on several shows as well.
But when he's like, man, I was a brain surgeon.
I opened up and there's light.
Right?
There there there is light happening inside ofyou.
At the moment that a sperm fertilizes an egg,there's a flash of light, and you're like, wait
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a minute.
Well, this is how mammals survived.
We had just enough of that inside of us.
Right?
That that that's how the evolution of usgetting here survived.
It's crazy.
And then you start to think about the effects.
Well, what if we were taking that away frompeople?
Well, then they would get sick.
Wouldn't There
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you go.
Now you're head that that's that's it, dude.
Even if it's not chemicals, even if it's justwater, we should be looking at and discussing
the effects of that water in the sky because,again, the result can be can be measured with
any solar panel system.
You know what I mean?
What effects is that having on the weather?
Is that not could that not be itself?
Even if it's just water, could that not be aform of weather manipulation?
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Seems to me like it is.
Well, what is what is rain?
Is it rain just water that comes from the sky?
So you're putting more water up there, wouldn'tit make more rain?
Make clouds of some kind or yeah.
Exactly, dude.
But I
believe But you're crazy, Troy.
It's chemicals, and I believe it's there for areason.
You have Morgellons disease.
It was and even now if you go on YouTube or goon Google or whatever and search Morgellons
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disease, one of the main like phrases you'llsee with that, it's a mystery disease they call
it because they don't know what causes it.
Funny enough, it started in California aroundthe time they started spraying chemtrails in
California, which is one of the first states inThe United States where it began.
And that's where Morgellons became, you know,came out.
Was there?
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And this is Morgellons, if no one knows, iswhere you literally start growing silicone
based fibers out of your skin.
What the hell is causing that?
They say they don't know.
Well, I got news for you.
It's what's in the sky.
That's what's causing it.
Yeah.
That you're absorbing through your skin,through your mouth, through your nose, you
know, through everything that you eat, throughevery animal, every tree, all of it, man.
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I, we're gonna do this a lot more, Troy.
I don't know what we're gonna call this showyet, but we're definitely building the
community.
I want everybody that that sees this to knowthat we believe you.
We believe you, and that you're not crazy here.
And maybe that's the name of the show.
You're not that's a good one, bro.
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You're not crazy.
Yeah.
Oh, well, you're not crazy here.
Well, as soon as you step outside of thesewalls, everybody's gonna call you again.
But I'm a human being, bro.
Like, I've been wrong.
I can be wrong, and I will admit when I'mwrong.
I there's a lot of cases where I say, I pray togod that I'm wrong And I will say, I'm so
thankful that I was wrong.
You know?
Like, whatever.
There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on.
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Like, I thought some shit was gonna happen backwhen j six happened.
Like, I called out.
I knew that was coming.
And as soon as it happened, I was working thatday.
I was working on a roof, actually.
And I you know, when I take my lunch break, I'dopen up Telegram, check the news.
Oh, shit.
There's riots at the capital.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
Here it goes.
And then by 5PM that night, you got Biden on TVcalling them terrorists, which that's why it
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happened.
That is that's why nine eleven happened.
Nine eleven happened.
One of the key agendas of that operation was topass the Patriot Act.
Why did they pass the Patriot Act?
At the time, we were told it was to go get thebig bad Muslims when, in fact, that document
was written originally by Joe Biden in 1992 or1994.
If I I can't remember the date specifically.
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But the original draft of the Patriot Act waswas written by Joe Biden way back in the
nineties.
They tried to pass it with the first WorldTrade Center bombing.
It didn't work.
09/11 comes, and they got it passed.
That document was written for United Statescitizens who would become political dissidents.
That's who that that's who that was made forwas so they could police and imprison us.
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The NDAA act of 2012 has a paragraph that givesthe military the right the authority to police
and imprison American citizens without dueprocess, which is what they did on January 6.
They put these people in prison who burnedthere for, like, four years.
No one gave a shit because they were able tolabel them terrorists.
And that's their key, dude.
If they can label you a terrorist, they can dowhatever they want with you, and they can make
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you disappear, and no one can say shit aboutit.
And and we've had friends.
You know?
I I I don't I know people secondhand throughother friends of mine that were in prison and
just got out, or they were being watched bythe, you know, by the CIA and the FBI.
And, you know, the CIA is not even supposed tooperate within the borders of the state.
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Right?
Like, in the borders of The United States.
So it's crazy.
I know we're living in a crazy time right now,and this is the moment.
Right?
This is the moment where there's a crack intheir armor.
Right?
Trump got in after everything.
They tried to run the same game.
Trump got in anyway.
We're watching the disillusion of a lot ofthese, you know, these alphabet soup of
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agencies and a lot of these career bureaucrats.
And there's gonna be a scramble, man.
That's what's gonna make 2025 such a crazy yearis that they're not gonna go quietly.
They're not just gonna throw their hands up andsurrender.
Right?
Exactly.
Which is exactly why the regular people likeus, that need to organize and need to be that
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voice.
We both have been on social media with oursmall groups of people being a voice for this
stuff.
It was time to take it out there.
We're gonna have some great guests on that aregonna, you know, share a lot of great
information with us, but we wanna bringeverybody into this Discord channel.
You know?
So keep your eye out for a Patriot broadcastingDiscord, and, just just keep coming in,
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participating.
If you have a story, we wanna hear it.
And, this is how we're gonna this is how we'regonna fight back because we're tired of sitting
here and just letting life happen to us.
I I refuse to engage in that anymore.
And if it means that we start by some Zoommeetings the way that corporations work now,
then so be it, man.
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Absolutely, man.
We have that we have.
That's the thing.
It's like everything like nuclear nucleartechnology can either power a city and keep
millions of people alive or it can destroy acity and kill millions of people.
It's a matter of how you use it.
We have the Internet.
We have this the ability to use social media.
We have to use it to our advantage whilethey're using it to brainwash and manipulate
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us.
We have to use it, you know, to defendourselves.
So this is what we can do, man.
That's awesome.
Troy, thanks for joining me today, andeverybody be on the lookout for more episodes
coming out in the near future.
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Welcome into the Patriot Broadcasting Network.
I'm your host, Bubba Starts.
And with me today on the show is my brotherTroy Winslow.
Welcome to the show, Troy.
Hey, man.
Thanks for having me, brother.
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Appreciate you.
Well, we've been friends for quite a while.
I don't know if we were in school together,probably not.
I think you graduated a little bit before me,but, the reason we came together today is
because we've both been on a journey, a journeyfor truth, a journey for educating and waking
up the people around us to the madness thathappens every day.
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And I I thought it was good for us to go aheadand record the conversation and to share a
little bit of our stories today for otherpeople that feel the same way.
Call us truthers.
Most of the world calls us conspiracytheorists, but I think as more and more time
goes on and the theories are proven true, Ithink we're just theorists.
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Are we theoretical human beings now?
Yeah.
I mean, there's well, that's one thing with theword conspiracy theory is a lot of people don't
know what the words actually mean.
They use the word conspiracy to mean theory orto mean fiction.
Where the word conspiracy is two or more peopleconspiring to do harm to another person or more
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than that.
So if me and you were were conspiring on howto, you know, to do a prank on somebody, that's
a conspiracy.
That is you and I conspiring.
The theory part of it is, well, I think thatthey're I think they are conspiring.
Whereas most of what I talk about and I share,it can be proven with official documentation or
the words out of their own damn mouth.
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So it's really not conspiracy theory.
It's conspiracy fact, and we're just basicallypointing it out and and and exposing it.
Right.
They are they are just conspiracies.
Yeah.
It's just conspiracies, man, and we're justpointing them out.
It it it's absolutely everything I say.
If I say that I can prove it, I can prove itwith their own words, their own documents.
I can prove it.
You know what I mean?
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And that's exactly why I really wanted tostart, you know, this adventure with you
because I have been brought to so much, youknow, your own research has led me to so many
facts.
And right out of like you said, right out ofthe horse's mouth, we're talking about military
documents, official documentation, proving alot of what, you're talking about all the time.
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So I wanted to start with a little bit of ourstory, and I and I want you to go first.
You know, what what is it that brought you tothe edge of the rabbit hole?
Well, you start with 09/11.
You know, obviously that day when the buildingscame down, me and my dad was a pyrotechnician,
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so he had a lot of experience with explosivesand stuff like that and knew a lot about
demolitions and whatnot.
So when the first two towers come down, thosedid not look like a typical controlled
demolition.
They looked like some form of controlleddemolition, but not the typical take it out at
the base and let it fall on its own footprint.
The two main towers came down floor by floorand you know you can see that in the video now
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you can see it popping out way below where it'sactually collapsing.
However Building 7 that was not hit by anythingthat came down at near free fall speeds symmetr
symmetrically at all four corners.
That was very obviously a controlleddemolition.
But I couldn't figure it out as a kid, dude.
Was like, what have I been?
Like 20, 19, 20 years old at the time.
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And I couldn't figure out the why.
Like, why would our own government do that,right?
And then a few years after that, I saw themovie, the documentary Loose Change, and that
gave me the why.
And that's when I woke up and startedunderstanding how governments work, how the
people that are in government work.
And that's I, that's where I started down therabbit hole was with that one.
09/11 was the big one.
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And then from there, dude, it was just, youknow, just reading and learning and and looking
at documents and like, when I really got pissedoff was I saw, I was reading into Agenda 21 by
the United Nations, and I was looking at thebiodiversity and wildlands project, and in that
project, they have a map that is color coded toshow you where no humans will be allowed.
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The idea of that project was to push everybodyinto mega cities, like 10 mega cities
throughout the country, and let nature go backto itself.
So on this map, it shows you the key and thecolor red symbolizes no human act little to no
human activity.
And the Black Hills Of South Dakota, my home,was was clearly covered in red.
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So I saw then, like, they have a plan to wipeus out and to move us all in the city.
So I thought, well, all I gotta do is expose usto people and and they'll be pissed off like
me.
And then I started telling people and all theycould do is roll their eyes, call me crazy, say
that'll never happen here.
And that so that's kinda where the journeystarted of being the the truther and the crazy
conspiracy theorist and all that shit.
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But
it's seeded in a love for your other humanbeings.
Like Absolutely.
The only reason that you would go out there andrisk someone calling you crazy is love.
You don't do you don't do it because you youhate them.
You know?
I'm not telling you this.
Their comment.
Right.
Don't benefit financially or any other wayother than living, other than surviving, you
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know, on my land, my own property where I'm at,and other than that dude, I'm a populist, yeah,
like, power to the people and I thought thateverybody would follow along and believe the
same thing I did, but a lot of people aren'teven willing to look and they'll say, I'd love
to see that.
You're like, okay.
I'll pull it up right here.
Like, well, I don't have time for that.
Like, well, I thought you said you wanted tosee it, though.
You know?
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But I get it, man.
Being good as they
say, ignorance and it well, and ignorance is isthere because we're also damn busy just trying
to survive.
And that's how they use the taxes andeverything that hopefully we're gonna see a
change in that over the next few years here as,you know, income tax.
I mean, we are tax slaves.
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A guy that I listen to a lot, Andy Frisella, hetalks about it all the time.
We've been living in tax slavery for over ahundred years now.
And every time that the little guy starts toget a little bit more power, they just assess
more taxes in the name of climate change orequality or diversity or all these buzzwords
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that they like to throw out there and withouteven having a political bent to it because
they've played and are playing currently bothsides.
The people in control don't wear red or blue,and and that's something that, you know, I I'm
sure a lot of people will see the name of ournetwork even and be like, oh, well, they're
just Trumpers.
You know?
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It's like, well, yes, I did vote for presidentTrump in this round.
And if I would have been in the country, Iwould have voted for him in 2016.
He was a very big reason why I came back fromMexico when I did.
Right?
It was an eye opening experience that the mediaand the these few that are in control of what
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actually reaches our eyes are completelyimplicit in this plan.
They have been the vessel for right, since TVand movie and radio has all been there.
Right?
I mean, and well before that as well.
But we just came into this age of now guys likeus can make our own networks, and we can make
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our own followings, and we can spread our ownmessages to the people.
And I just felt that it was so necessary tobring people and to bring people that are close
to me that I trust in to build our owncommunity and to begin this journey together.
This show and and what we plan to do movingforward is more about organization, is more
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about, you know, not just education becauseanyone can get educated at this point.
The information's out there, and a big part ofwhat we will do is to aggregate that and and to
begin to, organize that for people that you cango as deep as you want to go.
But the first step is in realizing that thereis a problem.
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And we're kind of in this wave right now wherea lot of people woke up to the communist agenda
that was being pushed on top of us that washiding a lot of these more nefarious things
that we're talking about and that we're seeingnow.
I mean, California is on fire.
That's not natural.
That is not that is not just climate change,drying it out and effect.
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No.
That's not what it is.
It is the effect of direct energy weapons.
We know this.
We know we know the technology that they'reusing.
We are watching them do it in real time, butwhat do we do about it?
And the only way to get there is to beginorganizing, is to begin taking all of these,
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you know, people that have been pushed to thefringes and then all of us looking at each
other and being like, oh, well, there's a lotof us out here.
If we all came together, we would have somepower to affect some change.
So that is exactly what kinda brought us totoday.
You know, my big opening eye opening experiencewas obviously the the whole COVID pandemic,
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man.
I mean
Yeah.
Totally.
So I just don't then people I knew and peoplethat I saw that I didn't necessarily think of
as a sheep when you begin to push fear twentyfour seven, you know, a a ticker of how many
deaths are happening now.
Like, that's insane.
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That's insane, man.
That was the real eye opening to me is, like,not only is everything that my crazy friends
told me true, it's happening.
It's happening right now, and we better open upour freaking eyes.
And Yeah.
I it is no doubt ostracized me from people thatwould be fans of my music or fans of this or
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that that I rather.
Right?
I'm glad that now in my life, I don't I don'tneed all of those people.
Right?
I'm not playing the the game that themainstream media played and the game that they
sold us.
Right?
Well, you gotta be, you know, squeaky clean toeverybody, and you don't wanna ruffle any
feathers, and you don't know.
Fuck that.
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I'm here to ruffle your feathers.
If you can't handle your feathers beingruffled, then you don't belong on this planet
in this time anyway because it's gonna get alot worse before it gets better as evidenced by
the last four years of shit that has fallenupon us.
So to fix it is gonna take 20 times as muchwork as it did to get us into this mess, and
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it's gonna take a lot more time, and it's gonnatake a lot more people.
So we talked for, you know, a solid half houroff camera about how how do you how do you do
that?
And I think community community is the onlyway.
To is the only way.
Well and talk about that because I know youhave to be members of communities.
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You've been in this, you know, fifteen years.
You've been going down these rabbit holes.
It hasn't been an individual pursuit, I wouldassume, that you've had people around you that
have guided you in ways and, hey, man.
You should check this out.
So talk a little bit and maybe if you want toto, shout out some people that you follow to
begin this education process.
You know, you mentioned loose change.
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What was kind of the next thing for you thatwas like, oh, this is deeper than even that?
Do you do mean God forbid I say the name AlexJones is a big one.
Alex Jones has been telling the truth forthirty years, you know, screaming it.
He's he's he's got some wild antics.
He's hard to watch.
He's hard to listen to.
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But if you go and you read his articles, if yougo to that, like, info wars or any of any of
Alex Jones websites and you read the articlesand then you continue on, like, follow-up
yourself and go dig for that information,you'll find out that 99% of what Alex Jones has
ever said, all of it's true, man.
Mike Adams, the health ranger, another big one.
The guy sells probably the cleanest, mosttested food in the world.
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He's extremely he has he has super integrity,very willing to admit when he's wrong.
Will tell you, like, I don't know if this istrue or not.
This is what I believe, or he'll tell you.
I know for a fact it's true.
So those are probably the two biggest names.
Stu Peters has been another big one over thelast well, since COVID started is when he kinda
came out.
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But with everything, dude, I don't trust any ofthem a 100%.
So when they say something that I'm interestedin, I go dig.
And I'll dig and dig and dig until I can findsomething that establishes a sense of proof.
Like, again, documents.
Owning the weather by 2025.
It's a document.
It's on the it's on the Internet.
It's it's on the Air Force website right now.
The replacement migration plan that nobodytalks about.
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This is let me let me talk about this for asecond, dude.
So, there's a there's a document.
It's on the United Nations website right now.
If you go to Google and type in replacementmigration, it'll be the first option that pops
up.
It takes you to the UN's own website, and it isa full document.
I believe, like, a 100 and to a 118 pages orsomething like that that explains their plan on
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how to replace the populations of Europeancountries in The United States.
It's it's all in black and white.
It's on their own website.
So it's not some someone just made some shit upand put it on the Internet, dude.
It's on the United Nations website, but not onepolitician has ever mentioned I've never heard
a single politician ever mentioned thatdocument.
Trump's never mentioned it.
Biden, none of them.
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It doesn't Thomas Massey has never mentionedthat document.
So it gives me some idea that maybe they're allin on it because they're not pointing at the
absolute proof that it's a real thing.
So they keep talking about, oh, it's aconspiracy theory, the great replacement.
Dude, it's their own words.
They put it out for everyone to see it, and Ican't get anybody to even look at it.
So And
it's happening.
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How do you not deny the 30,000,000 people thatweren't here four years ago that are now here
in The United States?
And it's not just here.
I have friends in The United Kingdom.
They've gone through their own, and that's alot smaller place.
Right?
That's a little island.
Europe is almost done as far as, like, theEuropean culture and, you know, we're we're
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working on it here now.
I mean, we watched it.
I've watched been watching it for ten years inEurope, you know, then bringing in all the
different immigrants and and just Paris, Franceis not what it was when we were kids, man.
You know?
Right.
And it's mostly out.
It's literally written in black and white onthe United Nations website.
The title of the document is replacementmigration.
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Like, how can you deny that?
Right.
Well and and I think that we have less and lessof the denial and more of, like, a shoulder
strug.
Well, it's happening.
And what do you
do about it?
What do
you do?
Well, you organize.
Right?
You you you you start to develop communities ofwhich I'm sure those are out there.
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I know that, you know, we talked about how wedo this.
I think a Discord server is probably our startto pull some people over into that.
This is what we want to do.
This is this is to organize and to start to,you know, at least, at the very least, form
some support for all of us who have beencompletely destroyed mentally and emotionally
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by just speaking the truth.
Yep.
If we weren't stronger individuals, we wouldhave stopped doing this a long time ago, but
this is a calling for a reason, especially forme because I've been doing so many podcasts
lately, not all of them with the same topics,but, realizing how much it's changing not only
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myself, but the person on the other side of thecamera and on the other side of the screen and
realizing how similar all the situations arearound the world.
Right?
That it's not so much different, everywhereelse.
And this is a global problem.
It is a globalist problem.
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I don't I don't believe that yes.
While all humans are equal, I don't believethat we all have to be the same.
How boring.
No.
I'm saying that.
Yeah.
How boring is that?
We should all have different cultures, and tobe accepting of other cultures doesn't mean
that I have to let your let that means yourculture is my culture.
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Right?
Yeah.
And why would I travel to Mexico if just theMexican culture is now the American culture?
Or, you know, other you know, I've lived inMexico for a year and and and saw it firsthand
and and lived with these beautiful, amazingpeople there as an illegal alien myself.
You know what else I was?
A strain on their system.
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As one man with a wife and a child.
Imagine what, you know, 10,000,000 of thosewomen and children and then probably 20,000,000
military aged males.
Why are those why are they here?
Right?
Start asking some start asking some realquestions.
Not everybody's here because their life was sobad or they are seeking asylum or, like, just
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let go.
Let go of what you've been told and startfresh.
Start fresh and start coming to informationwithout a history.
Start coming to this information.
You
have to unlearn.
You know?
Right.
Well and it's more just like, just wipe itclean.
Just and I don't know how I don't know howeveryone, didn't do that with the way the
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election turned out.
Right?
Kamala was right in it.
She was right in it.
Right?
And then it's a landslide.
So y'all were fucking lying, and you've beenlying this whole time.
You pulled a coup twice.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
You've pulled a couple
of them.
I've told people, like, you don't have tobelieve me.
I'll I'll tell I can talk till I'm blue in theface, bro.
You don't have to believe me, but my biggestrecommendation to start is to stop believing
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your TV.
Stop believing mainstream media becauseeverything from the commercials, the TV shows,
the sitcoms, the the fucking news, all of it,dude.
It's all controlled.
It is all very, very finely controlled.
And if you don't believe me, look at the listof the of the mem of the of the staff that it
takes to create a TV show or a movie.
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There's a reason why it takes thousands ofpeople to do that shit because it's very, very,
very finely controlled.
You know, down to every little piece in thebackground of a movie is there for a reason.
Every painting, every picture on the wall,every number in the background is there for a
reason.
Someone had intentions when they put it there.
Then you gotta just wonder why.
Like, what is that there for?
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Well, it's to create a reality.
It's to create a reality of their choosing andnot of your own.
And, you know, teachings like, you know, Imean, you can go back to the teachings of
Jesus.
He was like, you can do all of this.
I don't like, you keep asking me to do miracleswhen you can do them yourself.
Like, why is this you know, why are you why doyou keep asking me to do these things?
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You can do them.
Right?
So how have we forgotten how powerful we are?
Well, we've forgotten because we sit there infront of that screen and we accept the reality
that is not our own.
Yeah.
Or you sit in school for for twelve years at adesk being told what to do where you have raise
your hand to ask if you can go to the bathroom.
That's a big one to me, bro.
Like, you're teaching a kid that he has to askpermission to use the restroom.
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Like, what is
what The basic.
The most basic of your needs.
Right?
And you have to ask if you can.
If you will you please allow me to go do that?
You know, like, that's and that's ingrained inyou from kindergarten all the way up, man.
You know, up until maybe your your high schoolyears, they start letting kids have a little
freedom now.
But, yeah, dude, and it's you're taught not tothink outside the box.
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You are taught to memorize what you're beingtold and then repeat that to the next person,
and you can obviously see the effects of thatnow.
That's probably why I spend so much time in inschool suspension.
That's why I had to take an alternative to makeit through school, bro, because good and I
couldn't do the the standard curriculum and allthat shit, dude.
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I couldn't do it.
No.
And I don't think that a lot of us that haveraised Troy, you're a little bit older than me,
but not by much.
I would say we're in that same generation thatwe're not raising our children like that.
You know, my kids go to school every day, andthey participate in that.
But when they come home, I I'm not, you know,I'm not holding back anything from them.
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I am teaching you right now.
One big thing to me is, you know, why are wenot taught about, you know, the effects that
the sun has on not just our planet, but thewhole solar system.
Right?
The the magnetic, you know, I watch a a it'sSpace News on YouTube every morning now.
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And the first thing is, hey.
This is what's coming at us from the sun.
You got two days and a solar flare.
You know?
An x class solar flare is gonna hit.
These are the effects that it's going to have.
And it's like, how is this not the top of everynews broadcast in the country?
Like, why isn't that what we're saying is like,hey.
This is gonna be bad, but nobody's talkingabout it.
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And then bad stuff happens, and you're like,holy shit.
Well, we would have known that.
Right?
And the more studies they're doing, it's justit's phenomenal.
I absolutely love the program because they are,you know, tracing the magnetic pole shifts and
how every time that it's happened in the past,it has come with massive societal and geo
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geographical geological change.
Right?
How could it not?
And I explained it to my son.
It's like, imagine a magnet.
Right?
You got a magnet, and that's the Earth's core.
And right now, it's getting ready to flipcompletely over.
What would what kind of effects would that haveon you know, you think of the world as solid,
but we're really just all these masses that arekind of floating.
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Right?
Our crust is floating on top of this thing.
So you could imagine if there was a giant shiftinside of the Earth, like, what would happen?
Right?
And he's like, well, then it would, you know,it would reverberate out.
And he maybe didn't say reverberate, but he islike, well, it would have changes out here.
Yeah.
It's gonna have changes.
Absolutely.
Well, that's like you bring that up, thatbrings me to another topic that I've been
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called crazy for for fifteen, twenty years,whatever it's been, dude.
It's been probably twenty years now.
Chemtrails.
The the trails in the sky.
I saw that, so initially this goes, so when Iwas a kid I grew up in Colorado, not far from
the, I'm drawing a blank on the name of theairport, it was the airport that was in the
first Die Hard movie, it's where they filmedthat movie.
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Anyway, not far from an airport, open planes,you could see everything in the sky.
And so I grew up outside every day of my life,and I saw the sky.
And I know what a contrail is.
A contrail dissipates along with the speed ofthe jet, almost within seconds behind the jet.
It dissipates and they always did.
Never in my life as a child that I see acontrail stay in the sky and then spread out
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and become cloud cover.
Never saw that before as a kid ever.
So then about twenty years ago roughly, me andmy wife were driving to Spearfish and I see
these figure eights in the sky and I'm likewhat the hell is that?
She's like oh that's just the trail the planesleave right?
I'm like no, like contrails don't stay in thesky like that.
That's weird.
Came home, tried to find something out aboutit, couldn't find anything.
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Maybe a month or two later or something.
I'm watching a a video of Joe Rogan and EddieBravo doing jujitsu, and they chased there's a
lizard in the gym, they chased the lizardoutside.
Happened to look up with the camera.
Saw the trails.
They said the word chemtrail.
Like, okay, that's what it is.
So I started searching chemtrails, obviouslyfound a ton of information on it, and it all,
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like, it all made sense to me.
I had no way of proving it.
I've never tested the rainwater myself, so Ican't prove what's in it, but I have followed
some some pretty reliable people from likeformer military yada yada and then you got this
guy now, geoengineeringwatch.org.
This guy's fantastic.
Dane Wigginton is his name and he's fantastic.
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But everyone I've told, they go back to tellingme it's just contrails, it's just water vapor.
Okay, so here's my argument for that.
If let's say that it is just water vapor.
The fact that it's staying in the sky iscreating cloud cover, and you can measure the
difference on a solar panel on what it does asfar as stopping UV rays from hitting the earth,
why don't we look at that then?
If it's just water, why don't we figure outwhat effect it's having on us?
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Yeah.
If it is just water, we know that it makescloud cover, we know that it drops the UV rays,
What effect is that having?
Let's start there.
And if it is just right.
And if it is, then then take all the planes outof the sky.
We don't need to travel by plane anymore.
If it is destroying the Earth, right, and it iscausing less sunlight to reach us and heal our
mitochondrial DNA.
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Right?
Right.
And that's and when you start going down, youknow, Andrew Huberman and, god, I'm I'm spacing
on the other doctor.
He's been a guest on several shows as well.
But when he's like, man, I was a brain surgeon.
I opened up and there's light.
Right?
There there there is light happening inside ofyou.
At the moment that a sperm fertilizes an egg,there's a flash of light, and you're like, wait
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a minute.
Well, this is how mammals survived.
We had just enough of that inside of us.
Right?
That that that's how the evolution of usgetting here survived.
It's crazy.
And then you start to think about the effects.
Well, what if we were taking that away frompeople?
Well, then they would get sick.
Wouldn't There
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you go.
Now you're head that that's that's it, dude.
Even if it's not chemicals, even if it's justwater, we should be looking at and discussing
the effects of that water in the sky because,again, the result can be can be measured with
any solar panel system.
You know what I mean?
What effects is that having on the weather?
Is that not could that not be itself?
Even if it's just water, could that not be aform of weather manipulation?
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Seems to me like it is.
Well, what is what is rain?
Is it rain just water that comes from the sky?
So you're putting more water up there, wouldn'tit make more rain?
Make clouds of some kind or yeah.
Exactly, dude.
But I
believe But you're crazy, Troy.
It's chemicals, and I believe it's there for areason.
You have Morgellons disease.
It was and even now if you go on YouTube or goon Google or whatever and search Morgellons
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disease, one of the main like phrases you'llsee with that, it's a mystery disease they call
it because they don't know what causes it.
Funny enough, it started in California aroundthe time they started spraying chemtrails in
California, which is one of the first states inThe United States where it began.
And that's where Morgellons became, you know,came out.
Was there?
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And this is Morgellons, if no one knows, iswhere you literally start growing silicone
based fibers out of your skin.
What the hell is causing that?
They say they don't know.
Well, I got news for you.
It's what's in the sky.
That's what's causing it.
Yeah.
That you're absorbing through your skin,through your mouth, through your nose, you
know, through everything that you eat, throughevery animal, every tree, all of it, man.
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I, we're gonna do this a lot more, Troy.
I don't know what we're gonna call this showyet, but we're definitely building the
community.
I want everybody that that sees this to knowthat we believe you.
We believe you, and that you're not crazy here.
And maybe that's the name of the show.
You're not that's a good one, bro.
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You're not crazy.
Yeah.
Oh, well, you're not crazy here.
Well, as soon as you step outside of thesewalls, everybody's gonna call you again.
But I'm a human being, bro.
Like, I've been wrong.
I can be wrong, and I will admit when I'mwrong.
I there's a lot of cases where I say, I pray togod that I'm wrong And I will say, I'm so
thankful that I was wrong.
You know?
Like, whatever.
There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on.
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Like, I thought some shit was gonna happen backwhen j six happened.
Like, I called out.
I knew that was coming.
And as soon as it happened, I was working thatday.
I was working on a roof, actually.
And I you know, when I take my lunch break, I'dopen up Telegram, check the news.
Oh, shit.
There's riots at the capital.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
Here it goes.
And then by 5PM that night, you got Biden on TVcalling them terrorists, which that's why it
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happened.
That is that's why nine eleven happened.
Nine eleven happened.
One of the key agendas of that operation was topass the Patriot Act.
Why did they pass the Patriot Act?
At the time, we were told it was to go get thebig bad Muslims when, in fact, that document
was written originally by Joe Biden in 1992 or1994.
If I I can't remember the date specifically.
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But the original draft of the Patriot Act waswas written by Joe Biden way back in the
nineties.
They tried to pass it with the first WorldTrade Center bombing.
It didn't work.
09/11 comes, and they got it passed.
That document was written for United Statescitizens who would become political dissidents.
That's who that that's who that was made forwas so they could police and imprison us.
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The NDAA act of 2012 has a paragraph that givesthe military the right the authority to police
and imprison American citizens without dueprocess, which is what they did on January 6.
They put these people in prison who burnedthere for, like, four years.
No one gave a shit because they were able tolabel them terrorists.
And that's their key, dude.
If they can label you a terrorist, they can dowhatever they want with you, and they can make
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you disappear, and no one can say shit aboutit.
And and we've had friends.
You know?
I I I don't I know people secondhand throughother friends of mine that were in prison and
just got out, or they were being watched bythe, you know, by the CIA and the FBI.
And, you know, the CIA is not even supposed tooperate within the borders of the state.
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Right?
Like, in the borders of The United States.
So it's crazy.
I know we're living in a crazy time right now,and this is the moment.
Right?
This is the moment where there's a crack intheir armor.
Right?
Trump got in after everything.
They tried to run the same game.
Trump got in anyway.
We're watching the disillusion of a lot ofthese, you know, these alphabet soup of
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agencies and a lot of these career bureaucrats.
And there's gonna be a scramble, man.
That's what's gonna make 2025 such a crazy yearis that they're not gonna go quietly.
They're not just gonna throw their hands up andsurrender.
Right?
Exactly.
Which is exactly why the regular people likeus, that need to organize and need to be that
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voice.
We both have been on social media with oursmall groups of people being a voice for this
stuff.
It was time to take it out there.
We're gonna have some great guests on that aregonna, you know, share a lot of great
information with us, but we wanna bringeverybody into this Discord channel.
You know?
So keep your eye out for a Patriot broadcastingDiscord, and, just just keep coming in,
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participating.
If you have a story, we wanna hear it.
And, this is how we're gonna this is how we'regonna fight back because we're tired of sitting
here and just letting life happen to us.
I I refuse to engage in that anymore.
And if it means that we start by some Zoommeetings the way that corporations work now,
then so be it, man.
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Absolutely, man.
We have that we have.
That's the thing.
It's like everything like nuclear nucleartechnology can either power a city and keep
millions of people alive or it can destroy acity and kill millions of people.
It's a matter of how you use it.
We have the Internet.
We have this the ability to use social media.
We have to use it to our advantage whilethey're using it to brainwash and manipulate
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us.
We have to use it, you know, to defendourselves.
So this is what we can do, man.
That's awesome.
Troy, thanks for joining me today, andeverybody be on the lookout for more episodes
coming out in the near future.
We love you all.
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