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June 4, 2025 24 mins

What do pigeons, volcanoes, and climate change have in common? For Dr. Elizabeth Gray, they’ve all been part of her unlikely journey from bird nerd to CEO of the National Audubon Society.

In this episode of the Scientista Podcast, Dr. Gray shares how birds led her to science, conservation, and climate advocacy, and why she believes birds can unite us across politics, geography, and generations. From spark birds to career curveballs, this conversation is full of wisdom, heart, and hope.

Dr. Gray also opens up about the staggering threats facing birds today, and how Audubon is working to build inclusive, community-driven conservation across the country. As she says, “Birds are magic. They’re also messengers. When birds disappear, it’s a sign that something’s gone wrong.”

Don’t miss this one, it just might change the way you see the world outside your window.

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