April 3, 2025 • 47 mins
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Grant Cardone's journey from drug addiction to multimillionaire business magnate isn't just impressive—it's a roadmap built on Scientology technology that anyone can access without the hefty price tag or organizational control of the Church.
What if you could apply the same powerful tools that helped Cardone amass 17+ million followers and build his empire, but without the institutional barriers? This episode reveals exactly how independent Scientologists view Cardone's success and, more importantly, how you can replicate his results at a fraction of the cost and time investment.
The secret lies in what Cardone himself openly discusses: statistics management, the data series, admin technology, and the conditions formulas he uses "in every business deal." When he encourages followers to "10X" their goals, he's applying fundamental Scientology principles about postulates and intention—setting targets ten times higher than what initially seems possible forces expansion beyond current limitations.
Most revealing is how Cardone integrates ethics technology and conditions formulas into his business strategy. These aren't motivational concepts but practical tools for analyzing and improving specific situations. Independent Scientology offers these same powerful technologies without requiring organizational membership, excessive financial investment, or the control mechanisms many associate with the Church.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to another Scientology Outside of the
Church podcast brought to you bythe Advanced Org of the Great
Plains, ao-gporg and the Collegeof Independent Scientologycom.
This is Season 10, episode 29.
I'm here with Quentin Stroud,and this one is titled what
Independent Scientologists KnowAbout Grant Cardone.
(00:24):
So where are we headed withthis?
One is titled what IndependentScientologists Know About Grant
Cardone.
So where are we headed withthis one, gwen?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, well, you know it is interesting because we
were just talking earlier and wewere just looking at people who
are, you know, usingScientology technology, you know
, lrh Tech, to improve theirlives, to better their
experiences.
And, of course, I mean, youjust can't, you can't think
about it without knowing alittle bit about, you know,
(00:51):
grant Cardone and what he'saccomplished with 17 million, I
think 17 million followers onjust one of his social media
platforms, and I'm sure there'smore on, you know, like YouTube
and things of that nature, andI'm sure there's more on YouTube
(01:20):
and things of that nature.
But just the idea of how do yougo through life using this tech
to get a win, a result, in sucha way and that's what I want to
talk about today Like, how dowe 10x the tech, how do we use,
how do we use this tech and andget such results for our lives
if that's what you're, you know,focusing on right, and it's
also important to note that, uh,you can, you can use this tech.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
you don't have to be in the corporate church of
scientology, with all of the?
The suppression and thefinancial uh suppression and the
the suppression and the controland all of this you don't have.
You can do what Grant does, butyou don't have to be in the
church to do it.
You can be an independentScientology, and I think that's
the big takeaway from this.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Absolutely.
Yeah, I mean.
And one thing about because Ifirst discovered Scientology
when I was, I had a jobinterview at a mortgage company
in Minnesota and well, let metake that back.
I had already been inside of achurch of Scientology, but I
only, that's all I knew, like Iknew how I looked inside.
(02:19):
It wasn't until I startedworking at this mortgage company
that the manager brought meback and he pulled out these
binders and he was like boom,boom, boom, boom.
He put like four or fivebinders on the table and he was
like listen, I want you to gothrough some of these.
He put a dictionary on thetable and he said I want you to
read these because I thinkyou'll be very good, you know,
(02:40):
in this business and in salesand in marketing.
And he started like having meread LRH Tech, just sitting
there at the table and clearingmy own words, and that was my
first real encounter with thetech.
And it was, you know, sometimelater that I found out that he
was, you know, a Scientologistand the whole bit or whatever.
(03:02):
But I was independent, like Iwasn't a part of the church, I
was.
I I had been inside one, but Iwasn't, you know, on lines or
anything of that nature, andthat's when I started learning
about LRH Tech and that's whenit became very fascinating to me
that this material, this, thisstudy exists.
Um, and I didn't know anythingabout the church until you know
(03:25):
as far as the inner workings ofit.
So, yeah, I think that anybodywho has encountered Grant
Cardone, who follows GrantCardone, who knows about Grant
Cardone as a Scientologist, theyknow that he's using
Scientology technology toadvance his business and, to you
know, improve his results, andI think that we should learn a
(03:52):
little bit from that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, you're using statistics, the data series,
your established and officerseries, your organization series
, planning series, target series.
All of these things are thingsthat Grant has mentioned in his
videos on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, he actually does.
Yeah, and at this point youknow he's kind of you know
matter of fact about it.
You know about being aScientologist or whatever and
using Scientology technology.
He's kind of matter of factabout it.
But what's interesting?
I think we went to his um, tohis website and his website.
It really is like you can, youcan even see it right, you can
(04:35):
see how he uses this.
What would you call it?
Uh, the marketing technique umcome on advertising.
Come on, advertising right.
Come on, come on.
You know you want this, come on.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, and you know that's.
The thing is he's almostremarketing what the church
sells already.
What we have, that you know youcan get from us for free, and
the management volumes, thetechnical volumes, the books and
everything for free, and we canteach you how to do that, show
(05:13):
you you know how to set upgraphs, find out what your
products are, admin scale he'smentioned that before you know
you're setting up a program withtargets, targeting series.
The finance series is anotherthing.
As far as it's, after anyfinancial calamity it takes six
(05:36):
months to recover.
I mean all of these things.
What money is?
Money is an idea backed byconfidence, and how money got
started was with blacksmithsthat got notes to hold on to
precious metals, and those notesended up being what later would
(05:58):
become fiat money cash.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Mm-hmm.
Well, and I think that,regardless of who the individual
is right.
So, whether it's Grant Cardone,whether it's Mickey Mouse,
regardless of who the individualis, knowing that one can use
this technology and make theseamazing gains in their life,
(06:25):
whatever that looks like for you, I think, is really important.
And none of this is here toglorify grant cardone or
whatever, and whatever yourfeelings are about him
personally or whatever, isinconsequential, because the
truth of the matter is, this manwent from being a drug addict,
right from being a drug addict,to, um, finding scientology in
(06:45):
his what I think was late, late30s, or late 40s, 40s, 40s, yeah
, in his 40s and from there tobeing broke, disgusted, you know
, strung out or whatever,whatever to finding scientology,
getting online, using thistechnology to improve his self,
primarily, right, be do have Toimprove his beingness, to
(07:08):
improve himself, and then takingthat to improve his conditions
in life.
And so I want to talk aboutsome of those things, and you
just you listed a number of themthere there.
But, first and foremost, ifyou're in a place in your life
right now where you cannot like,you can't see yourself winning,
(07:33):
you can't see you're not whereyou want to be, your finances
ain't where they want to be.
Your life is just not what youwant it to be right now.
Right?
The first thing, I believe, isyou got to start 10Xing the tech
, right.
What do I mean by 10X?
10x means you set goals thatare 10 times higher.
(07:54):
10x, 10 times higher than whereyou want to fall Right, where
you want to land Right.
So, if you want to, kind of, Igot to pull in at least, you
know, uh, uh, $50,000 this year,okay, well, what's 50,000 times
10?
That's 500,000.
Okay, that's the goal you wantto set, right, and you put, you
(08:21):
put it in and then you dive intothe tech of that goal.
You dive into the knowingnessthat's required for you to
achieve that goal.
10x the tech.
That's why I love this.
I love it.
And so it's not just about, youknow, putting out a flyer or
(08:42):
putting out, it's not just aboutto make 10 more calls.
You know, putting out a flyeror putting out it's not just
about to make 10 more calls, youknow whatever.
No, it's about diving into thetech.
I was just talking to somebodynot too long ago and I talked
about how, if I had, was Isaying, if you had an hour to
chop down a tree, spend thefirst 45 minutes sharpening the
ax.
You know, yeah and so and sothat's the tech.
(09:08):
That's the tech you sharpen yourax and you know how to run it.
So that's what I am like how dowe, how do we 10x this tech?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
yeah, I mean you have to.
You have to set a target, whatyou're, what you're looking for,
and you have to put it outthere.
You have to picture it like hesays in the root to infinity
lectures.
You have to put it out there.
You have to picture it like hesays in the root to infinity
lectures.
You have to put it out there.
You have to make a postulate.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So a posture, a postulate as to what like what.
So you have to make a decision.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
This is what I'm looking for.
This is this is what I'm aimingfor.
Okay, now how do I get there?
Which that brings us to uh,beat you have okay, so, so, okay
.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So somebody listening to this right now and they're
feeling you know their money iskind of funny.
That change is kind of strange.
They trying to figure life out.
You know the health might be ina situation or whatever.
What I'm hearing you say is thefirst decision is a decision to
know what to do about it.
(10:10):
Right, if something can't bedone about it, and what to do
about it.
So there's a solution, soknowing about it and what to do
about it.
Yeah, so there's a solution.
So, knowing right, knowing thatthere's a solution, fantastic.
And so, by making the decisionthat I need this tech, I need to
know what this stuff really cando, right, that then opens up
(10:32):
the door to the wonder, the, the, the study, the, you know,
trying to dive into it in orderto get what's what's in there.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Right, yeah, and you have to.
You have to be able to.
Yeah, scientology is knowinghow to know, but it's also
knowing that you don't know.
That's that's part of thestudent hat is what don't I know
.
And is there anything that canhelp me with that?
And the subject of independentScientology is so deep and wide.
(11:06):
There's pretty much somethingthere for every situation,
almost every situation, andthat's really that's really
point.
You know a poignant conceptbecause, like Grant says here,
he says if you're waiting,hesitating, blaming others,
you're not in control.
I learned I had to go cause ifI wanted to win.
(11:27):
So being a cause is to be acause.
You have to have the tool to doit or tools to do it.
You know he wasn't.
You have to have the tool to doit or tools to do it.
You know he wasn't being avictim and saying you know, all
these things happened to me.
Woe is me.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's okay, I have to takeresponsibility for this and I
(11:47):
cause this.
And again, you know, you learnthis from both reading and
applying the tech and fromauditing.
And auditing outside of thechurch is much cheaper and can
be done in your own home.
You don't have to go into aquote-unquote church to do it or
anything.
(12:08):
You can do it over Zoom with us, and we can control the meter
from where you're at and takeyou in session.
So auditing helps remove thecharge that keeps people stuck
at effect.
So that's why it's important tounderstand that we do something
that the church doesn't.
You have to go to them, whereaswith us we come to you over the
(12:31):
internet.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And that's the part that I loved about it.
Because I loved about it?
Because I, you know, I loved,when it was time for our uh,
time for our auditing sessions,to be able to get up after
having eaten some food because,to make sure I'm well fed, well
rested, get up, eat some food,go sit in my computer, because I
have a big, I have like a bigmonitor, like a 32 inch monitor,
(12:57):
whatever sit in my computer andto see your face pop up on the
screen and you're just like, hey, you ready, let's get started.
You know, and squeeze the gas,please, you know, and you go
through the process and andright there I'm in session, you
know right in your, in your pjsright in my pjs, correct,
(13:20):
correct, and and something.
Something so simple, yet it thefact that it's, it's available
to me and it's making theseprofound impacts.
That's what really like.
That's why I love thisconversation that we have right,
that's why I decided to come onand start doing this podcast,
because I wanted other people toget the same wins and and know
(13:43):
that it's possible.
You've been through to yourcurrent situation, right, like
how do I do this?
Not being affected to that, butbeing coming calls over it and
finding that thing or creatingthat experience that you really
(14:06):
want.
And this is for people who arereaching for the tech.
This is for people who want toknow more.
This is for people who want togo free.
This is for people who want toget clear.
This is for people who want togo to the OT levels and whatnot.
Like this is for people whowant that there is a way to do
it, and that's why independentScientology has opened up that
(14:29):
door.
It allows you to start to dothat and that's what feels
really good to do that, andthat's what feels really good
right and and you know he's acase study in how you can.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know, in modern, uh, media terms, how you can do
that, but you can do it withouthaving to be subjected to the
corporate church, and that'sthat's, that's very, very key,
(14:59):
because it is, it's, it's a bigpart of what he does.
Like he says, he talks aboutthe conditions, formulas, and
you've got non-existence topower and below non-existence
all the way down to confusion.
He's constantly talking aboutthis in his business strategy.
He talks about applying formulasto get out of debt, how to
scale your business, how torepair failing areas by applying
a condition, and those sameconditions, like you know,
(15:20):
danger, non-existence danger,emergency affluence, power and
then there's affluenceattainment as well, which is
really important that getsmissed, and then power, and
power change, you know, and hesays I use these formulas in
every business deal I do.
It's not motivation, it's tech,it's just tech.
(15:42):
It's like this is the tool thatyou use to do this particular
thing in whatever it is thatyou're doing in business, and
that's why he's been sosuccessful.
And we can give thisinformation to you and walk you
through it.
We have our AI that can helpyou get through it too as well,
and you can ask it to give me anexample of how this would be.
How.
(16:03):
How could I do this?
This is my situation.
How could I apply a conditionto this situation?
And the AI can help you with it, along with us.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, well, I think, and and onto, like with the
(16:42):
principles, that I think thatGrant has really used this whole
idea of like.
I'm going to say a word, I wantnobody to get triggered, but the
whole idea of ethics tech Right, you were just talking about
the conditions, right, and thatunderstanding that, putting in
your own personal ethics I wasjust helping someone recently
run a danger condition formularight, and putting in your own
personal ethics and gettingthings sorted, getting things
straight, like getting thingsfigured out for yourself.
Put that in on yourself soyou're not, you know,
continually going down thespiral, going down the chute, as
(17:02):
Elric says it.
And so using ethics tech, in myopinion, has really changed my
life and I use it for everything.
I use it in my relationship, Iuse it at my home, I use it in
my business, I use it on my body, I use ethics tech really.
I use it in my business, I useit on my body, I use ethics tech
really really well and it works.
Believe it or not, it reallyworks.
And so, when Grant talks about,you know, using the ethics tech
(17:27):
and integrity and things ofthat nature to make sure that
you're able to get the gains andget this you're able to get the
gains and the gains.
Able to get the gains and getthis you're able to get the
gains and the gain stick.
In other words, you're notrollercoastering.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
You're stable, that's the important thing is you're
stable, yeah, yeah, and and soand so you get the gains, the
gain stick.
You're stable in that space andyou continue going up and up
and up from there.
That is done Really.
It's done with ethics, tech andhaving your integrity in.
(18:04):
We talked a little bit, I think, in the last podcast if you
guys go back and listen to thelast podcast about writing up
your overs and withholds, allthat stuff, all of these things
are there.
All of these things are thereand you're not going to hold
yourself back anymore.
You're not going to sabotage.
You don't have to procrastinate, you don't have to.
You know, wait for the shooterdrop or whatever people say.
(18:27):
Like none of that has to be thecase when you know what you're
doing.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right and you know when you, you know what you're
doing, when you have somethingto back yourself up on as far as
you know the ethics, tech andand and holding your position uh
, knowing who you are in thefirst dynamic.
But you stand for, uh, your owncode of honor.
That's something he talks about.
Uh, super important.
(18:54):
We've done podcasts on the Codeof Honor, too, and this is all
stuff that's out there for freethat you can listen to on the
podcast almost 150 podcasts,which is all Grant Cardone
information that he's using inhis life every day, and you
don't have to pay a dime.
So that brings us to reframingScientology outside of the
(19:19):
church.
To address the elephant in theroom, you don't need to be part
of the church to benefit fromwhat Grant used.
You don't need labels,organizations or control.
That's what independentScientology is about.
We use the same tech, same LRon Hubbard tech, here at AOGP
and the College of IndependentScientology in our online course
(19:40):
room, and you don't have thearbitrary barriers of the
manipulation that you do fromthe church.
So you're actually going to beable to speed yourself up with
lower costs, less time, a lotmore affinity, a lot more
transparency.
You're not going to be gettingphone calls all the time and
(20:03):
people coming to your door allthat stuff or mail.
Or the mail that you get withall the magazines and all that
stuff that you're paying for inyour services, and it's auditing
and training, are available toeveryone, including you, and
it's a lot cheaper and it's it'sfreely accessible and
downloadable, I mean, you know,it's just it's amazing what we
(20:28):
do and they don't, and yeah,it's free, yeah, it's, it's all
there for you.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And what I love about what ALGP has pulled together
is this flow of it flowsdifferently to me.
When um online at the corporatechurch, I remember feeling very
um moved around like a piece ona board versus I was able to
make moves.
Does that make sense?
And so I would say that, sincemy connection with ALGP and
(21:27):
starting lines with ALGP, Idon't feel like I'm being moved
around like a piece on a board.
I feel like I'm in control of mycase game, I'm in control of my
process and I bring you in fact, I have to, like set the
appointments and stuff like that.
Like I bring you in and say,okay, these are the times that I
want to work on myself, do mything.
(21:48):
I got, you know, somethinggoing on with school, something
going on with you know, like allthis stuff that might come up
in life, like all this stuffthat might come up in life.
But I get to set the tone forthat Now, as an auditor and you
know, with case supervision andall that stuff like this, you
know things are laid out for mein a certain way and I got to
get through it.
Sure, and having that level ofaccountability is there, but I
(22:12):
don't feel like I'm being movedaround like a puzzle piece or a
chess piece, and that's whatmakes me feel really good about
my time with ALGB.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, instead of you know when are you going to be on
course, when are you going tobe on course?
When are you going to be oncourse?
You know, I need a schedule, Ineed a schedule, I need a
schedule.
You set your own schedule, bothfor auditing and training, and
so you can be at cause over itall the time and there isn't
somebody pastoring you.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Well, you know, it's so interesting because when you,
when you're in the church, whenyou're in that space, it's like
there's a thing called bodyrouting.
You know, like body routing.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You, you take the body here, you take the body
there, blah, blah, blah blah.
And I think, because that's notthere, right, that the whole
idea of body routing that's notthere.
I don't feel like that, likeI've.
It's more like being routing.
Hmm, I like that.
It's more like being routing,like you're connected with this,
this, these, these other being,this organization and the
(23:13):
people who work here.
You're connected with the beingand we're just helping you move
your being, like okay, well,let's do this, but now it's time
for that, and it's moving verydifferently than body routing.
I get that.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, because you're self-determined.
You're self-determined, I mean,grant Grant has handlers in the
church and everything that pushhim in certain directions, and
I'm sure that he has to getapproval on things that he puts
out there and everything likethat, and they say, look, you
need to say it this way, don'tsay it that way, that type of a
thing.
But you know, you don't have tohave that sort of a thing.
(23:54):
You have the information, youuse it, the information isn't
being controlled and you're notputting out some party line
Right that you have in thechurch.
You can be yourself and you canexpress yourself and with
auditing you can go out and youcan boom a business in extremely
short time and training at thesame time.
(24:16):
It doesn't take a long time andthat's that's the thing that he
tries to get across is, you cando this a lot faster than you
think and that's because of thistech and you can.
You, you can be the authorityover your own success at your
own pace and at your own rate.
And as you get more auditingand you continue going through
(24:40):
the levels of auditing, you'regoing to see these things pick
up a lot faster.
There's a lot shortercommunication lag between what
you decide and what you seehappen.
Almost as frightening howquickly it can happen.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's actually quite beautiful because, as I'm even
thinking about it now, you don'thave the same present time
problems that show up whenyou're in your home.
And like you set your home upand you set your space up and
you set your life up forauditing, like for session, like
okay, I know I got to go insession today, right, you set
(25:15):
things up, you prepare your foodthe night this is what I.
You prepare your food the night, this is what I did.
Prepare your food the nightbefore or whatever.
Make sure you can eat, makesure you go to bed on time.
You know, maybe take some youknow, cal Max so you can get
some rest and take some vitaminB.
You know, do your thing.
And when it's time for session,you close the door, you sit in
front of your computer or laptopand you start, and it's really
(25:38):
that simple and you get the wins.
I was cracking up laughing, youknow crying, and all the kind of
stuff that happened in session,and all right, end of session.
I'm like thank you, and then wejust say, okay, talk to you
later and that was it, and I'mback to my day, I'm back to my
life, I'm back to my life.
(25:58):
It was such a beautiful flowand you know from let's see, I
think I paid for my entirebridge package in October, if
I'm not mistaken, I think it waslike October and by June by
June I was clear and and andcatch this and made my money
(26:24):
back all of it in that timeperiod in that time period, did
you not?
and so so it wasn't, it wasn't a, it wasn't a a loss or it
wasn't something that going out.
And I didn't look at itsomething going out.
I really looked at it more.
As you know, I say all the timemy money makes me money and so
I looked at, look at it assomething going out.
I really looked at it more.
As you know, I say all the timemy money makes me money and so
I looked at it like it comesback to me with friends.
The money goes out.
It comes back to me withfriends Every dollar I spend,
(26:46):
right, and so that's what that'sbeen my lived experience and
that's what I believe is such agreat thing that's available
right now.
So let's, let's get it.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, it doesn't take long at all.
It's a.
The ROI is incredible.
It really is.
So that brings us to how canyou be like Grant Cardone?
I mean, we've got over.
We've got over 200 successstories on our website that you
can check out, with all of ourservices, both training and
(27:23):
auditing, and you can see thatthe successes are exactly the
same thing that Grant has seenin his life.
You know there's career revival, relationship repair, more
emotional stability andexpansion of beingness.
You know people have had theirpersonal purposes reignited with
(27:45):
L11 and L10 and L12.
They get so much from it thatthey, you know, all they want to
do is just go out and knock itout of the park.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Listen, do the L's, do the L's.
I'm telling you that, yes,absolutely for that one.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, and that's the thing is, it just turns you into
this powerful being inextremely short order.
You know what I'm talking about100% and it just it really
changes your life almostovernight.
So Grant had auditing and youcan too.
You just need to take thatfirst step.
(28:29):
Yeah, and you don't have to doit in the church, you can do it
with us.
So you can, you can go to ourwebsite, you can leave a message
on our uh, finn AI and we'llget back to you and we'll do a
uh, you know, a personal zoomcall with you and you can go
over what you've seen thatGrant's done.
(28:50):
Uh, how can I get you know?
I'll have what he's having typeof a thing.
Okay, and we can explain it toyou.
And what would?
What would the best things befor you, depending on what your
situation is and you know, giveyou a tailor-made program for it
.
And it's something that you canstart that day online and we
(29:11):
can get you in session within acouple of days.
Uh, if you want to, you want toget to get auditing.
It doesn't take a very longtime.
We can get a theta meter sentto you and get you in session,
get an interview, get a programfor you and get you going and
address the things in life thatare holding you back.
All you have to do is get onthe little AI button down in the
(29:31):
bottom right hand corner onAO-GPorg and we'll get back to
you within probably 12 hours orless sometimes quicker, uh, but
not longer and get started andyou can even come down here to
our retreat in south africa oryou can do it online and you can
get personal service here.
It's beautiful this time of yearhere, uh, right by the right,
(29:55):
by the ocean, ocean breeze, uh,you know there's.
There's all kinds of naturearound here lots of trees, safe,
safe neighborhood.
Um, yes, we've got a churchright across the street that
goes off with the bells onwednesdays and sundays and you
know it's a really niceatmosphere.
It it's very peaceful and we'vegot we've got our own course
(30:17):
room 20 seat course room whereyou can do your practical drills
, where you can do your theorystudy.
You can go for really nicewalks and do locationals and
things like that and do yourdrills for your courses and
stuff, for the nicestneighborhood in town and we're
ready to help you and withoutall of the high pressure that
(30:37):
you get in the church, so youcan book us at aogporg.
Ao-gporg.
And if you're tired of beingstuck overwhelmed or just unsure
where to start, you don't needto figure it out alone.
We've got the tools and theywork.
So let's get you on your nextstep together, so that you can
(31:00):
do the same thing that Grant hasdone in short order.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, and all of this , all of this, I think, is a
fraction, a fraction of the costand a fraction of the time.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, a fraction, a mere fraction.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
A mere fraction of the cost and a fraction of the
time.
And what's interesting is andthis is just my again
observation is that none of thishas to be.
You don't have to be effectLike.
You don't feel like you're ateffect to any of the stuff
that's happening or stuff thathas to happen.
Right, you're not feeling likethis is controlling me.
(31:43):
You're feeling like you're incontrol of your spiritual
progress, and that feels reallygood to me.
So, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, you're not being pushed through, you're
just being gently guided andit's it's at your own pace, and
that's that's the most importantthing is is you don't feel like
you're, you're a cog in thewheel, you're self-determined,
and that's what it's all aboutis being self-determined, always
being self-determined, and andit's it's.
(32:12):
If it isn't, if it is anindependent Scientology, it is,
it isn't.
Let me change it.
Let me say that again If it'sfun, scientology is fun.
So that's independentScientology is fun, and that's
the thing is is it's it's a funthing to do.
It's not, it's not work.
You're like, geez, I neverthought of that before.
Wow, this is great.
(32:33):
Gosh, I had, I had no idea thatI was doing this, and you know
it's really a lot of fun.
You know it makes you smile,right.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You feel bigger as a being.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You have a lot more havingness, a lot more space in
short order, and you can do someof this stuff in minutes and
feel ways that you may havenever, ever, felt before.
So get in touch with us, learnhow to be Grant Cardone and do
what he does, without all of thepressure and the tactics and
everything, and do it at afraction of the price and be
successful in life.
(33:11):
You've seen what this guy cando.
You can do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Let me ask you a question what, what?
Um?
We talked last podcast aboutthe barriers, right, the
barriers that that stop a personfrom going up the bridge.
What, in this case?
Why do you think most peoplehold themselves back?
Um, is it fear?
(33:42):
Fear, I don't know.
I guess I'm trying to get tothe bottom of it, right?
Is it fear?
Is it judgment?
Is?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
it.
I'll be honest with you theydon't know what they're capable
of.
They're they afraid of beingsuccessful, but they don't know
how to get there.
And that's what the tech doesis.
It gives you the roadmaps, itgives you the highway.
All you have to do is travel it.
It gives you the GPS to get toyour destination.
(34:11):
All you have to do is have thegas.
You have to start.
You know, showing up is 75 ofthe battle.
Just show up, right, just showup.
That's all you've got to do.
It will do.
It will do the rest, and it'snot this daunting thing and I
don't know about this.
I don't know how to do this.
(34:32):
No, it's all there.
This guy was a ridiculous geniusand is presenting things that
don't exist anywhere else onthis planet.
Anywhere else on this planetwhere you've got information to
guide you through down thehighway, tell you where these
potholes are, where there's roadclosures or it's down to one
(34:55):
lane, and you know ahead of timeand you can take a different
route than you would have taken,because you've gotten yourself
into such a pattern that youself-sabotage.
This is what people do.
Is they self-sabotage?
Because they've got thingsholding them down in their
reactive mind that prevent themfrom doing what it is that they
need to do, and they know it'sthere, but they don't know how
(35:17):
to stop it.
This is what Scientologyindependent Scientology does is
it removes those barriers thatare stopping you from expanding
your space, your control, yourability to put things there that
you want.
Whether there's something thereor not, what's that worth to
you?
What's that worth?
What's that worth to you?
(35:38):
Grant saw this and he uses itand he's a you know, a huge
success story using thistechnology, and I know it sounds
like magic.
It is.
It is magic, but that's thething is is if you don't
understand the technology, itlooks like magic.
You know.
(35:59):
Think about if somebody saw acell phone in the 70s.
They'd think that's magic.
How in the world can we havethat?
I mean, it goes beyond whatthey were using as tricorders in
Star.
Trek, you know, and all thatstuff.
Now we're beyond what they had.
I mean, you know, the onlything we're missing is the
holodeck, and we almost havethat technology.
I mean the things that arehappening, you know, in Earth
technology still still pale incomparison to the technology in
(36:25):
independent Scientology.
This guy was 100 to 200 yearsahead of his time, 100%, maybe
even more.
And this is the technology thatGrant Cardone uses and it's
here, it's, it's a fraction ofthe cost, it's, in some cases
it's free.
You can take the books and youcan read them yourselves.
I lectures.
(36:46):
We've got 4,600 of his lectureson SoundCloud that you can
listen to for free.
I mean, it's, it's, it's on.
How do I put it?
It's unprecedented.
How much, how much informationis that we've put here with AOGP
over the last 13 years thatwe've put out there in in a
(37:08):
place that you can get it forfree?
Just the lectures themselveswould be well over $10,000 for
you to buy and you didn't haveaccess to those.
Well over yeah the ACC's.
Yeah, the technical volumes.
I remember those conversations.
Yeah, the admin and people comeup to me all the time and they
(37:29):
say this is incredible.
How many times have we heardthat Just in the last couple of
weeks?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yes, I'm telling you, I remember those conversations
about purchasing your ACC's andpurchasing your lectures and
purchasing your conjuring, andpurchase, purchase, purchase and
purchase.
And I'm like, I get it, I getwhat you're doing.
Listen, you can't knocknobody's hustle and at the same
time, there has to be a betterway.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
There has to be Right and it's all right here.
You don't have to buy all thisstuff.
Just the books and the lecturesalone will cost you $20,000.
Let me say that again, $20,000.
We've got them for free thatyou can listen to.
This is the stuff that grantuses.
I mean original originaloriginal stuff, and that's
(38:21):
that's.
That's the thing is is that youshould all, we all we are
basically librarians sayingwe're going to give you a course
on this.
Have you seen this book?
Okay, we've got a check sheetthat you can do and it gives you
these gradient steps, babysteps on how to do something.
And it's not 75%.
You've got it 100%.
You've got it 100%.
(38:41):
You've got it 100%.
Now you know how to do this.
You got it 100%.
You got 100%.
Now you know how to build offof what you just learned to do
and now you can do this.
I mean, look at what you'vebeen learning on your solo
course since you've been here.
Oh my gosh, yes, yeah, crazy, Imean, and and you didn't know
this stuff.
And now you know how to do this.
You know what the reads on, on,on on a meter are.
(39:04):
You know how to do cans, can,squeezes, to set your
sensitivity on a meter.
You sat there and you watchedthe video and you learned all of
those reads and what, what may,maybe an hour and a half
watching our reader reads drillfrom, and you're taking this
information and you're goinginto the OT levels and you're
(39:24):
teaching yourself how to soloaudit, how you can get up the
bridge yourself doing thesecourses in independent
Scientology, and you know how todo this stuff.
And just two weeks ago youdidn't know any of this, any of
this.
Every day you learned more thanyou did the day before and you
know you've got it.
You know you've got it.
(39:45):
That's the power of which GrantCardone has.
It's that easy.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
And that's the thing, that that's the biggest thing.
Technology is only as good asyou use it.
That's right.
And so if you have a computerthat has the highest you know
terabytes and giga quads of suchand such, and it just sits
there, you never turn it on.
What's the point?
You know what I'm saying?
So there's technology that'savailable to you.
(40:15):
You just got to use it.
You got to turn it on.
Now, let me just say this,because I was in on course,
maybe like a week ago, maybe sixdays ago, and there was one
datum that blew my mind.
It was just one thing.
It was like a little piece of aline or two in one of the
(40:37):
course packs and I was like,wait, is that how this works?
Wait, that's the best time todo this, that's the best way to
do this.
What?
And I, literally I talked toyou, Jonathan.
I was like, oh my God, I didn'tknow that this was the case,
Like this is a thing.
Sometimes you just need that oneeye-opening insight.
(40:59):
That's all you need.
And that one eye-openinginsight can open up your case,
can open up your awareness, canlaunch you to the moon.
Just one.
And so when you're in session,or when you're on course or
whatever, and you're gettingthese materials, you're
listening to the lectures,you're going like you're just
(41:19):
looking for that one thing.
Don't think I have to.
It's so much data, it's so muchstuff to learn.
Yeah, I get that part, but whenyou get that one insight, that
one piece of information, thatone datum, that can say, oh,
shoot you off to the races.
So that's what it felt like forme, and I know that it could be
(41:41):
a big chunk of the apple to tryto bite it and try to swallow
it all in one chunk.
You don't do it that way,You're just looking for one
insight.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, one little step at a time, and you put all
these things together and thenyou can go out into the world
that night and you can startapplying them.
And that's how Grant Cardonedid what he did as quickly as he
did at the age that he wascrazy.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Within 15, 15, 20 years, become a multi self-made
millionaire.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, Just just, and you know it doesn't take a long
time at all.
It's amazing how quickly thingscan happen.
But here's the important pointI think the most important point
.
He had to come up with atremendous amount of money to
get up the corporate churchScientology's bridge, Okay, and
(42:33):
that took time.
That's why it took him as longas it did.
He had to come up with thatmoney, Whereas with us you get
it for a fraction, a fraction ofthe cost.
So what he did in 20 years youmight be able to do in five,
because you don't have to comeup.
You don't have to come up withhundreds and hundreds of
thousands of dollars to do thisstuff, and that's that's.
(42:55):
The most important point isthat the cost is so much cheaper
.
The hardest part is to figureout.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
How do I get it quick enough in my day, yeah, I'll be
honest with you, when dealingwith the corporate church, I
honestly never believed that Iwas going to hit the OT levels
Like I honestly like, like Ijust didn't see how.
Maybe that's what it is.
I didn't see how I could dothat.
(43:23):
And it wasn't until, you know,talking to you and and you so,
like you can, like you can reachfor this level of experience
and just take care of yourentire bridge package and just
take care of your entire bridgepackage, just take care of the
entire thing.
And I was like I had to likefight my old disbelief, so to
speak, like wait, I could dothis.
(43:45):
And once I did it and it waslike no, no, turning back.
It was like okay, and then,like I said, within what?
Six, seven, eight, nine, ninemonths, within months,
everything came back.
And then saw, and now, I'm justin profit.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, and we have bridge packages where you can
get your entire bridge right nowfor half of what we normally
charge for it, which is afraction.
A fraction, and I mean a smallfraction of what the church
charges for your entire bridge,I mean, and you can do it in an
(44:21):
installment or a couple ofinstallments if you have to, but
you get more if you pay it upfront.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, I have to do installments.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, and you get more if you pay up front.
We add things on for you if youpay up front and we'll get you
in session five days a week.
Five days a week and you'll beseeing instantaneous changes in
your life within a matter of afew days to a week.
We've got three auditors herethat can take you in session
(44:53):
Pretty much, and we have thebenefit of being ahead of US
time and a little bit of Europe.
We can get you in sessionpretty much any time of day and
you can go in session one hour,two hours, three hours a day,
and it's that simple.
You just have to start and youcan do it for a fraction of the
cost.
So I hope this has beenenlightening for everybody and
(45:15):
we're glad that you got to theend of the cost.
So I hope this has beenenlightening for everybody and
we're glad that you got to theend of this podcast.
Reach out to us on our Fin AIin the bottom right-hand corner,
as I mentioned earlier, thelittle blue icon.
Send us a message and we'll getin touch with you.
Give us your email address,your phone number and we'll make
you the next Grant Cardone.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Namaste.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
And we love you.
Thank you, thank you.
Welcome to another Scientology Outside of the
Church podcast brought to you bythe Advanced Org of the Great
Plains, ao-gporg and the Collegeof Independent Scientologycom.
This is Season 10, episode 29.
I'm here with Quentin Stroud,and this one is titled what
Independent Scientologists KnowAbout Grant Cardone.
(00:24):
So where are we headed withthis?
One is titled what IndependentScientologists Know About Grant
Cardone.
So where are we headed withthis one, gwen?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, well, you know it is interesting because we
were just talking earlier and wewere just looking at people who
are, you know, usingScientology technology, you know
, lrh Tech, to improve theirlives, to better their
experiences.
And, of course, I mean, youjust can't, you can't think
about it without knowing alittle bit about, you know,
(00:51):
grant Cardone and what he'saccomplished with 17 million, I
think 17 million followers onjust one of his social media
platforms, and I'm sure there'smore on, you know, like YouTube
and things of that nature, andI'm sure there's more on YouTube
(01:20):
and things of that nature.
But just the idea of how do yougo through life using this tech
to get a win, a result, in sucha way and that's what I want to
talk about today Like, how dowe 10x the tech, how do we use,
how do we use this tech and andget such results for our lives
if that's what you're, you know,focusing on right, and it's
also important to note that, uh,you can, you can use this tech.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
you don't have to be in the corporate church of
scientology, with all of the?
The suppression and thefinancial uh suppression and the
the suppression and the controland all of this you don't have.
You can do what Grant does, butyou don't have to be in the
church to do it.
You can be an independentScientology, and I think that's
the big takeaway from this.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Absolutely.
Yeah, I mean.
And one thing about because Ifirst discovered Scientology
when I was, I had a jobinterview at a mortgage company
in Minnesota and well, let metake that back.
I had already been inside of achurch of Scientology, but I
only, that's all I knew, like Iknew how I looked inside.
(02:19):
It wasn't until I startedworking at this mortgage company
that the manager brought meback and he pulled out these
binders and he was like boom,boom, boom, boom.
He put like four or fivebinders on the table and he was
like listen, I want you to gothrough some of these.
He put a dictionary on thetable and he said I want you to
read these because I thinkyou'll be very good, you know,
(02:40):
in this business and in salesand in marketing.
And he started like having meread LRH Tech, just sitting
there at the table and clearingmy own words, and that was my
first real encounter with thetech.
And it was, you know, sometimelater that I found out that he
was, you know, a Scientologistand the whole bit or whatever.
(03:02):
But I was independent, like Iwasn't a part of the church, I
was.
I I had been inside one, but Iwasn't, you know, on lines or
anything of that nature, andthat's when I started learning
about LRH Tech and that's whenit became very fascinating to me
that this material, this, thisstudy exists.
Um, and I didn't know anythingabout the church until you know
(03:25):
as far as the inner workings ofit.
So, yeah, I think that anybodywho has encountered Grant
Cardone, who follows GrantCardone, who knows about Grant
Cardone as a Scientologist, theyknow that he's using
Scientology technology toadvance his business and, to you
know, improve his results, andI think that we should learn a
(03:52):
little bit from that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, you're using statistics, the data series,
your established and officerseries, your organization series
, planning series, target series.
All of these things are thingsthat Grant has mentioned in his
videos on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, he actually does.
Yeah, and at this point youknow he's kind of you know
matter of fact about it.
You know about being aScientologist or whatever and
using Scientology technology.
He's kind of matter of factabout it.
But what's interesting?
I think we went to his um, tohis website and his website.
It really is like you can, youcan even see it right, you can
(04:35):
see how he uses this.
What would you call it?
Uh, the marketing technique umcome on advertising.
Come on, advertising right.
Come on, come on.
You know you want this, come on.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, and you know that's.
The thing is he's almostremarketing what the church
sells already.
What we have, that you know youcan get from us for free, and
the management volumes, thetechnical volumes, the books and
everything for free, and we canteach you how to do that, show
(05:13):
you you know how to set upgraphs, find out what your
products are, admin scale he'smentioned that before you know
you're setting up a program withtargets, targeting series.
The finance series is anotherthing.
As far as it's, after anyfinancial calamity it takes six
(05:36):
months to recover.
I mean all of these things.
What money is?
Money is an idea backed byconfidence, and how money got
started was with blacksmithsthat got notes to hold on to
precious metals, and those notesended up being what later would
(05:58):
become fiat money cash.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Mm-hmm.
Well, and I think that,regardless of who the individual
is right.
So, whether it's Grant Cardone,whether it's Mickey Mouse,
regardless of who the individualis, knowing that one can use
this technology and make theseamazing gains in their life,
(06:25):
whatever that looks like for you, I think, is really important.
And none of this is here toglorify grant cardone or
whatever, and whatever yourfeelings are about him
personally or whatever, isinconsequential, because the
truth of the matter is, this manwent from being a drug addict,
right from being a drug addict,to, um, finding scientology in
(06:45):
his what I think was late, late30s, or late 40s, 40s, 40s, yeah
, in his 40s and from there tobeing broke, disgusted, you know
, strung out or whatever,whatever to finding scientology,
getting online, using thistechnology to improve his self,
primarily, right, be do have Toimprove his beingness, to
(07:08):
improve himself, and then takingthat to improve his conditions
in life.
And so I want to talk aboutsome of those things, and you
just you listed a number of themthere there.
But, first and foremost, ifyou're in a place in your life
right now where you cannot like,you can't see yourself winning,
(07:33):
you can't see you're not whereyou want to be, your finances
ain't where they want to be.
Your life is just not what youwant it to be right now.
Right?
The first thing, I believe, isyou got to start 10Xing the tech
, right.
What do I mean by 10X?
10x means you set goals thatare 10 times higher.
(07:54):
10x, 10 times higher than whereyou want to fall Right, where
you want to land Right.
So, if you want to, kind of, Igot to pull in at least, you
know, uh, uh, $50,000 this year,okay, well, what's 50,000 times
10?
That's 500,000.
Okay, that's the goal you wantto set, right, and you put, you
(08:21):
put it in and then you dive intothe tech of that goal.
You dive into the knowingnessthat's required for you to
achieve that goal.
10x the tech.
That's why I love this.
I love it.
And so it's not just about, youknow, putting out a flyer or
(08:42):
putting out, it's not just aboutto make 10 more calls.
You know, putting out a flyeror putting out it's not just
about to make 10 more calls, youknow whatever.
No, it's about diving into thetech.
I was just talking to somebodynot too long ago and I talked
about how, if I had, was Isaying, if you had an hour to
chop down a tree, spend thefirst 45 minutes sharpening the
ax.
You know, yeah and so and sothat's the tech.
(09:08):
That's the tech you sharpen yourax and you know how to run it.
So that's what I am like how dowe, how do we 10x this tech?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
yeah, I mean you have to.
You have to set a target, whatyou're, what you're looking for,
and you have to put it outthere.
You have to picture it like hesays in the root to infinity
lectures.
You have to put it out there.
You have to picture it like hesays in the root to infinity
lectures.
You have to put it out there.
You have to make a postulate.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So a posture, a postulate as to what like what.
So you have to make a decision.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
This is what I'm looking for.
This is this is what I'm aimingfor.
Okay, now how do I get there?
Which that brings us to uh,beat you have okay, so, so, okay
.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So somebody listening to this right now and they're
feeling you know their money iskind of funny.
That change is kind of strange.
They trying to figure life out.
You know the health might be ina situation or whatever.
What I'm hearing you say is thefirst decision is a decision to
know what to do about it.
(10:10):
Right, if something can't bedone about it, and what to do
about it.
So there's a solution, soknowing about it and what to do
about it.
Yeah, so there's a solution.
So, knowing right, knowing thatthere's a solution, fantastic.
And so, by making the decisionthat I need this tech, I need to
know what this stuff really cando, right, that then opens up
(10:32):
the door to the wonder, the, the, the study, the, you know,
trying to dive into it in orderto get what's what's in there.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Right, yeah, and you have to.
You have to be able to.
Yeah, scientology is knowinghow to know, but it's also
knowing that you don't know.
That's that's part of thestudent hat is what don't I know
.
And is there anything that canhelp me with that?
And the subject of independentScientology is so deep and wide.
(11:06):
There's pretty much somethingthere for every situation,
almost every situation, andthat's really that's really
point.
You know a poignant conceptbecause, like Grant says here,
he says if you're waiting,hesitating, blaming others,
you're not in control.
I learned I had to go cause ifI wanted to win.
(11:27):
So being a cause is to be acause.
You have to have the tool to doit or tools to do it.
You know he wasn't.
You have to have the tool to doit or tools to do it.
You know he wasn't being avictim and saying you know, all
these things happened to me.
Woe is me.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's okay, I have to takeresponsibility for this and I
(11:47):
cause this.
And again, you know, you learnthis from both reading and
applying the tech and fromauditing.
And auditing outside of thechurch is much cheaper and can
be done in your own home.
You don't have to go into aquote-unquote church to do it or
anything.
(12:08):
You can do it over Zoom with us, and we can control the meter
from where you're at and takeyou in session.
So auditing helps remove thecharge that keeps people stuck
at effect.
So that's why it's important tounderstand that we do something
that the church doesn't.
You have to go to them, whereaswith us we come to you over the
(12:31):
internet.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And that's the part that I loved about it.
Because I loved about it?
Because I, you know, I loved,when it was time for our uh,
time for our auditing sessions,to be able to get up after
having eaten some food because,to make sure I'm well fed, well
rested, get up, eat some food,go sit in my computer, because I
have a big, I have like a bigmonitor, like a 32 inch monitor,
(12:57):
whatever sit in my computer andto see your face pop up on the
screen and you're just like, hey, you ready, let's get started.
You know, and squeeze the gas,please, you know, and you go
through the process and andright there I'm in session, you
know right in your, in your pjsright in my pjs, correct,
(13:20):
correct, and and something.
Something so simple, yet it thefact that it's, it's available
to me and it's making theseprofound impacts.
That's what really like.
That's why I love thisconversation that we have right,
that's why I decided to come onand start doing this podcast,
because I wanted other people toget the same wins and and know
(13:43):
that it's possible.
You've been through to yourcurrent situation, right, like
how do I do this?
Not being affected to that, butbeing coming calls over it and
finding that thing or creatingthat experience that you really
(14:06):
want.
And this is for people who arereaching for the tech.
This is for people who want toknow more.
This is for people who want togo free.
This is for people who want toget clear.
This is for people who want togo to the OT levels and whatnot.
Like this is for people whowant that there is a way to do
it, and that's why independentScientology has opened up that
(14:29):
door.
It allows you to start to dothat and that's what feels
really good to do that, andthat's what feels really good
right and and you know he's acase study in how you can.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know, in modern, uh, media terms, how you can do
that, but you can do it withouthaving to be subjected to the
corporate church, and that'sthat's, that's very, very key,
(14:59):
because it is, it's, it's a bigpart of what he does.
Like he says, he talks aboutthe conditions, formulas, and
you've got non-existence topower and below non-existence
all the way down to confusion.
He's constantly talking aboutthis in his business strategy.
He talks about applying formulasto get out of debt, how to
scale your business, how torepair failing areas by applying
a condition, and those sameconditions, like you know,
(15:20):
danger, non-existence danger,emergency affluence, power and
then there's affluenceattainment as well, which is
really important that getsmissed, and then power, and
power change, you know, and hesays I use these formulas in
every business deal I do.
It's not motivation, it's tech,it's just tech.
(15:42):
It's like this is the tool thatyou use to do this particular
thing in whatever it is thatyou're doing in business, and
that's why he's been sosuccessful.
And we can give thisinformation to you and walk you
through it.
We have our AI that can helpyou get through it too as well,
and you can ask it to give me anexample of how this would be.
How.
(16:03):
How could I do this?
This is my situation.
How could I apply a conditionto this situation?
And the AI can help you with it, along with us.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, well, I think, and and onto, like with the
(16:42):
principles, that I think thatGrant has really used this whole
idea of like.
I'm going to say a word, I wantnobody to get triggered, but the
whole idea of ethics tech Right, you were just talking about
the conditions, right, and thatunderstanding that, putting in
your own personal ethics I wasjust helping someone recently
run a danger condition formularight, and putting in your own
personal ethics and gettingthings sorted, getting things
straight, like getting thingsfigured out for yourself.
Put that in on yourself soyou're not, you know,
continually going down thespiral, going down the chute, as
(17:02):
Elric says it.
And so using ethics tech, in myopinion, has really changed my
life and I use it for everything.
I use it in my relationship, Iuse it at my home, I use it in
my business, I use it on my body, I use ethics tech really.
I use it in my business, I useit on my body, I use ethics tech
really really well and it works.
Believe it or not, it reallyworks.
And so, when Grant talks about,you know, using the ethics tech
(17:27):
and integrity and things ofthat nature to make sure that
you're able to get the gains andget this you're able to get the
gains and the gains.
Able to get the gains and getthis you're able to get the
gains and the gain stick.
In other words, you're notrollercoastering.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
You're stable, that's the important thing is you're
stable, yeah, yeah, and and soand so you get the gains, the
gain stick.
You're stable in that space andyou continue going up and up
and up from there.
That is done Really.
It's done with ethics, tech andhaving your integrity in.
(18:04):
We talked a little bit, I think, in the last podcast if you
guys go back and listen to thelast podcast about writing up
your overs and withholds, allthat stuff, all of these things
are there.
All of these things are thereand you're not going to hold
yourself back anymore.
You're not going to sabotage.
You don't have to procrastinate, you don't have to.
You know, wait for the shooterdrop or whatever people say.
(18:27):
Like none of that has to be thecase when you know what you're
doing.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right and you know when you, you know what you're
doing, when you have somethingto back yourself up on as far as
you know the ethics, tech andand and holding your position uh
, knowing who you are in thefirst dynamic.
But you stand for, uh, your owncode of honor.
That's something he talks about.
Uh, super important.
(18:54):
We've done podcasts on the Codeof Honor, too, and this is all
stuff that's out there for freethat you can listen to on the
podcast almost 150 podcasts,which is all Grant Cardone
information that he's using inhis life every day, and you
don't have to pay a dime.
So that brings us to reframingScientology outside of the
(19:19):
church.
To address the elephant in theroom, you don't need to be part
of the church to benefit fromwhat Grant used.
You don't need labels,organizations or control.
That's what independentScientology is about.
We use the same tech, same LRon Hubbard tech, here at AOGP
and the College of IndependentScientology in our online course
(19:40):
room, and you don't have thearbitrary barriers of the
manipulation that you do fromthe church.
So you're actually going to beable to speed yourself up with
lower costs, less time, a lotmore affinity, a lot more
transparency.
You're not going to be gettingphone calls all the time and
(20:03):
people coming to your door allthat stuff or mail.
Or the mail that you get withall the magazines and all that
stuff that you're paying for inyour services, and it's auditing
and training, are available toeveryone, including you, and
it's a lot cheaper and it's it'sfreely accessible and
downloadable, I mean, you know,it's just it's amazing what we
(20:28):
do and they don't, and yeah,it's free, yeah, it's, it's all
there for you.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And what I love about what ALGP has pulled together
is this flow of it flowsdifferently to me.
When um online at the corporatechurch, I remember feeling very
um moved around like a piece ona board versus I was able to
make moves.
Does that make sense?
And so I would say that, sincemy connection with ALGP and
(21:27):
starting lines with ALGP, Idon't feel like I'm being moved
around like a piece on a board.
I feel like I'm in control of mycase game, I'm in control of my
process and I bring you in fact, I have to, like set the
appointments and stuff like that.
Like I bring you in and say,okay, these are the times that I
want to work on myself, do mything.
(21:48):
I got, you know, somethinggoing on with school, something
going on with you know, like allthis stuff that might come up
in life, like all this stuffthat might come up in life.
But I get to set the tone forthat Now, as an auditor and you
know, with case supervision andall that stuff like this, you
know things are laid out for mein a certain way and I got to
get through it.
Sure, and having that level ofaccountability is there, but I
(22:12):
don't feel like I'm being movedaround like a puzzle piece or a
chess piece, and that's whatmakes me feel really good about
my time with ALGB.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, instead of you know when are you going to be on
course, when are you going tobe on course?
When are you going to be oncourse?
You know, I need a schedule, Ineed a schedule, I need a
schedule.
You set your own schedule, bothfor auditing and training, and
so you can be at cause over itall the time and there isn't
somebody pastoring you.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Well, you know, it's so interesting because when you,
when you're in the church, whenyou're in that space, it's like
there's a thing called bodyrouting.
You know, like body routing.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You, you take the body here, you take the body
there, blah, blah, blah blah.
And I think, because that's notthere, right, that the whole
idea of body routing that's notthere.
I don't feel like that, likeI've.
It's more like being routing.
Hmm, I like that.
It's more like being routing,like you're connected with this,
this, these, these other being,this organization and the
(23:13):
people who work here.
You're connected with the beingand we're just helping you move
your being, like okay, well,let's do this, but now it's time
for that, and it's moving verydifferently than body routing.
I get that.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, because you're self-determined.
You're self-determined, I mean,grant Grant has handlers in the
church and everything that pushhim in certain directions, and
I'm sure that he has to getapproval on things that he puts
out there and everything likethat, and they say, look, you
need to say it this way, don'tsay it that way, that type of a
thing.
But you know, you don't have tohave that sort of a thing.
(23:54):
You have the information, youuse it, the information isn't
being controlled and you're notputting out some party line
Right that you have in thechurch.
You can be yourself and you canexpress yourself and with
auditing you can go out and youcan boom a business in extremely
short time and training at thesame time.
(24:16):
It doesn't take a long time andthat's that's the thing that he
tries to get across is, you cando this a lot faster than you
think and that's because of thistech and you can.
You, you can be the authorityover your own success at your
own pace and at your own rate.
And as you get more auditingand you continue going through
(24:40):
the levels of auditing, you'regoing to see these things pick
up a lot faster.
There's a lot shortercommunication lag between what
you decide and what you seehappen.
Almost as frightening howquickly it can happen.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's actually quite beautiful because, as I'm even
thinking about it now, you don'thave the same present time
problems that show up whenyou're in your home.
And like you set your home upand you set your space up and
you set your life up forauditing, like for session, like
okay, I know I got to go insession today, right, you set
(25:15):
things up, you prepare your foodthe night this is what I.
You prepare your food the night, this is what I did.
Prepare your food the nightbefore or whatever.
Make sure you can eat, makesure you go to bed on time.
You know, maybe take some youknow, cal Max so you can get
some rest and take some vitaminB.
You know, do your thing.
And when it's time for session,you close the door, you sit in
front of your computer or laptopand you start, and it's really
(25:38):
that simple and you get the wins.
I was cracking up laughing, youknow crying, and all the kind of
stuff that happened in session,and all right, end of session.
I'm like thank you, and then wejust say, okay, talk to you
later and that was it, and I'mback to my day, I'm back to my
life, I'm back to my life.
(25:58):
It was such a beautiful flowand you know from let's see, I
think I paid for my entirebridge package in October, if
I'm not mistaken, I think it waslike October and by June by
June I was clear and and andcatch this and made my money
(26:24):
back all of it in that timeperiod in that time period, did
you not?
and so so it wasn't, it wasn't a, it wasn't a a loss or it
wasn't something that going out.
And I didn't look at itsomething going out.
I really looked at it more.
As you know, I say all the timemy money makes me money and so
I looked at, look at it assomething going out.
I really looked at it more.
As you know, I say all the timemy money makes me money and so
I looked at it like it comesback to me with friends.
The money goes out.
It comes back to me withfriends Every dollar I spend,
(26:46):
right, and so that's what that'sbeen my lived experience and
that's what I believe is such agreat thing that's available
right now.
So let's, let's get it.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, it doesn't take long at all.
It's a.
The ROI is incredible.
It really is.
So that brings us to how canyou be like Grant Cardone?
I mean, we've got over.
We've got over 200 successstories on our website that you
can check out, with all of ourservices, both training and
(27:23):
auditing, and you can see thatthe successes are exactly the
same thing that Grant has seenin his life.
You know there's career revival, relationship repair, more
emotional stability andexpansion of beingness.
You know people have had theirpersonal purposes reignited with
(27:45):
L11 and L10 and L12.
They get so much from it thatthey, you know, all they want to
do is just go out and knock itout of the park.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Listen, do the L's, do the L's.
I'm telling you that, yes,absolutely for that one.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, and that's the thing is, it just turns you into
this powerful being inextremely short order.
You know what I'm talking about100% and it just it really
changes your life almostovernight.
So Grant had auditing and youcan too.
You just need to take thatfirst step.
(28:29):
Yeah, and you don't have to doit in the church, you can do it
with us.
So you can, you can go to ourwebsite, you can leave a message
on our uh, finn AI and we'llget back to you and we'll do a
uh, you know, a personal zoomcall with you and you can go
over what you've seen thatGrant's done.
(28:50):
Uh, how can I get you know?
I'll have what he's having typeof a thing.
Okay, and we can explain it toyou.
And what would?
What would the best things befor you, depending on what your
situation is and you know, giveyou a tailor-made program for it
.
And it's something that you canstart that day online and we
(29:11):
can get you in session within acouple of days.
Uh, if you want to, you want toget to get auditing.
It doesn't take a very longtime.
We can get a theta meter sentto you and get you in session,
get an interview, get a programfor you and get you going and
address the things in life thatare holding you back.
All you have to do is get onthe little AI button down in the
(29:31):
bottom right hand corner onAO-GPorg and we'll get back to
you within probably 12 hours orless sometimes quicker, uh, but
not longer and get started andyou can even come down here to
our retreat in south africa oryou can do it online and you can
get personal service here.
It's beautiful this time of yearhere, uh, right by the right,
(29:55):
by the ocean, ocean breeze, uh,you know there's.
There's all kinds of naturearound here lots of trees, safe,
safe neighborhood.
Um, yes, we've got a churchright across the street that
goes off with the bells onwednesdays and sundays and you
know it's a really niceatmosphere.
It it's very peaceful and we'vegot we've got our own course
(30:17):
room 20 seat course room whereyou can do your practical drills
, where you can do your theorystudy.
You can go for really nicewalks and do locationals and
things like that and do yourdrills for your courses and
stuff, for the nicestneighborhood in town and we're
ready to help you and withoutall of the high pressure that
(30:37):
you get in the church, so youcan book us at aogporg.
Ao-gporg.
And if you're tired of beingstuck overwhelmed or just unsure
where to start, you don't needto figure it out alone.
We've got the tools and theywork.
So let's get you on your nextstep together, so that you can
(31:00):
do the same thing that Grant hasdone in short order.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, and all of this , all of this, I think, is a
fraction, a fraction of the costand a fraction of the time.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, a fraction, a mere fraction.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
A mere fraction of the cost and a fraction of the
time.
And what's interesting is andthis is just my again
observation is that none of thishas to be.
You don't have to be effectLike.
You don't feel like you're ateffect to any of the stuff
that's happening or stuff thathas to happen.
Right, you're not feeling likethis is controlling me.
(31:43):
You're feeling like you're incontrol of your spiritual
progress, and that feels reallygood to me.
So, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, you're not being pushed through, you're
just being gently guided andit's it's at your own pace, and
that's that's the most importantthing is is you don't feel like
you're, you're a cog in thewheel, you're self-determined,
and that's what it's all aboutis being self-determined, always
being self-determined, and andit's it's.
(32:12):
If it isn't, if it is anindependent Scientology, it is,
it isn't.
Let me change it.
Let me say that again If it'sfun, scientology is fun.
So that's independentScientology is fun, and that's
the thing is is it's it's a funthing to do.
It's not, it's not work.
You're like, geez, I neverthought of that before.
Wow, this is great.
(32:33):
Gosh, I had, I had no idea thatI was doing this, and you know
it's really a lot of fun.
You know it makes you smile,right.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You feel bigger as a being.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You have a lot more havingness, a lot more space in
short order, and you can do someof this stuff in minutes and
feel ways that you may havenever, ever, felt before.
So get in touch with us, learnhow to be Grant Cardone and do
what he does, without all of thepressure and the tactics and
everything, and do it at afraction of the price and be
successful in life.
(33:11):
You've seen what this guy cando.
You can do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Let me ask you a question what, what?
Um?
We talked last podcast aboutthe barriers, right, the
barriers that that stop a personfrom going up the bridge.
What, in this case?
Why do you think most peoplehold themselves back?
Um, is it fear?
(33:42):
Fear, I don't know.
I guess I'm trying to get tothe bottom of it, right?
Is it fear?
Is it judgment?
Is?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
it.
I'll be honest with you theydon't know what they're capable
of.
They're they afraid of beingsuccessful, but they don't know
how to get there.
And that's what the tech doesis.
It gives you the roadmaps, itgives you the highway.
All you have to do is travel it.
It gives you the GPS to get toyour destination.
(34:11):
All you have to do is have thegas.
You have to start.
You know, showing up is 75 ofthe battle.
Just show up, right, just showup.
That's all you've got to do.
It will do.
It will do the rest, and it'snot this daunting thing and I
don't know about this.
I don't know how to do this.
(34:32):
No, it's all there.
This guy was a ridiculous geniusand is presenting things that
don't exist anywhere else onthis planet.
Anywhere else on this planetwhere you've got information to
guide you through down thehighway, tell you where these
potholes are, where there's roadclosures or it's down to one
(34:55):
lane, and you know ahead of timeand you can take a different
route than you would have taken,because you've gotten yourself
into such a pattern that youself-sabotage.
This is what people do.
Is they self-sabotage?
Because they've got thingsholding them down in their
reactive mind that prevent themfrom doing what it is that they
need to do, and they know it'sthere, but they don't know how
(35:17):
to stop it.
This is what Scientologyindependent Scientology does is
it removes those barriers thatare stopping you from expanding
your space, your control, yourability to put things there that
you want.
Whether there's something thereor not, what's that worth to
you?
What's that worth?
What's that worth to you?
(35:38):
Grant saw this and he uses itand he's a you know, a huge
success story using thistechnology, and I know it sounds
like magic.
It is.
It is magic, but that's thething is is if you don't
understand the technology, itlooks like magic.
You know.
(35:59):
Think about if somebody saw acell phone in the 70s.
They'd think that's magic.
How in the world can we havethat?
I mean, it goes beyond whatthey were using as tricorders in
Star.
Trek, you know, and all thatstuff.
Now we're beyond what they had.
I mean, you know, the onlything we're missing is the
holodeck, and we almost havethat technology.
I mean the things that arehappening, you know, in Earth
technology still still pale incomparison to the technology in
(36:25):
independent Scientology.
This guy was 100 to 200 yearsahead of his time, 100%, maybe
even more.
And this is the technology thatGrant Cardone uses and it's
here, it's, it's a fraction ofthe cost, it's, in some cases
it's free.
You can take the books and youcan read them yourselves.
I lectures.
(36:46):
We've got 4,600 of his lectureson SoundCloud that you can
listen to for free.
I mean, it's, it's, it's on.
How do I put it?
It's unprecedented.
How much, how much informationis that we've put here with AOGP
over the last 13 years thatwe've put out there in in a
(37:08):
place that you can get it forfree?
Just the lectures themselveswould be well over $10,000 for
you to buy and you didn't haveaccess to those.
Well over yeah the ACC's.
Yeah, the technical volumes.
I remember those conversations.
Yeah, the admin and people comeup to me all the time and they
(37:29):
say this is incredible.
How many times have we heardthat Just in the last couple of
weeks?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yes, I'm telling you, I remember those conversations
about purchasing your ACC's andpurchasing your lectures and
purchasing your conjuring, andpurchase, purchase, purchase and
purchase.
And I'm like, I get it, I getwhat you're doing.
Listen, you can't knocknobody's hustle and at the same
time, there has to be a betterway.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
There has to be Right and it's all right here.
You don't have to buy all thisstuff.
Just the books and the lecturesalone will cost you $20,000.
Let me say that again, $20,000.
We've got them for free thatyou can listen to.
This is the stuff that grantuses.
I mean original originaloriginal stuff, and that's
(38:21):
that's.
That's the thing is is that youshould all, we all we are
basically librarians sayingwe're going to give you a course
on this.
Have you seen this book?
Okay, we've got a check sheetthat you can do and it gives you
these gradient steps, babysteps on how to do something.
And it's not 75%.
You've got it 100%.
You've got it 100%.
(38:41):
You've got it 100%.
Now you know how to do this.
You got it 100%.
You got 100%.
Now you know how to build offof what you just learned to do
and now you can do this.
I mean, look at what you'vebeen learning on your solo
course since you've been here.
Oh my gosh, yes, yeah, crazy, Imean, and and you didn't know
this stuff.
And now you know how to do this.
You know what the reads on, on,on on a meter are.
(39:04):
You know how to do cans, can,squeezes, to set your
sensitivity on a meter.
You sat there and you watchedthe video and you learned all of
those reads and what, what may,maybe an hour and a half
watching our reader reads drillfrom, and you're taking this
information and you're goinginto the OT levels and you're
(39:24):
teaching yourself how to soloaudit, how you can get up the
bridge yourself doing thesecourses in independent
Scientology, and you know how todo this stuff.
And just two weeks ago youdidn't know any of this, any of
this.
Every day you learned more thanyou did the day before and you
know you've got it.
You know you've got it.
(39:45):
That's the power of which GrantCardone has.
It's that easy.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
And that's the thing, that that's the biggest thing.
Technology is only as good asyou use it.
That's right.
And so if you have a computerthat has the highest you know
terabytes and giga quads of suchand such, and it just sits
there, you never turn it on.
What's the point?
You know what I'm saying?
So there's technology that'savailable to you.
(40:15):
You just got to use it.
You got to turn it on.
Now, let me just say this,because I was in on course,
maybe like a week ago, maybe sixdays ago, and there was one
datum that blew my mind.
It was just one thing.
It was like a little piece of aline or two in one of the
(40:37):
course packs and I was like,wait, is that how this works?
Wait, that's the best time todo this, that's the best way to
do this.
What?
And I, literally I talked toyou, Jonathan.
I was like, oh my God, I didn'tknow that this was the case,
Like this is a thing.
Sometimes you just need that oneeye-opening insight.
(40:59):
That's all you need.
And that one eye-openinginsight can open up your case,
can open up your awareness, canlaunch you to the moon.
Just one.
And so when you're in session,or when you're on course or
whatever, and you're gettingthese materials, you're
listening to the lectures,you're going like you're just
(41:19):
looking for that one thing.
Don't think I have to.
It's so much data, it's so muchstuff to learn.
Yeah, I get that part, but whenyou get that one insight, that
one piece of information, thatone datum, that can say, oh,
shoot you off to the races.
So that's what it felt like forme, and I know that it could be
(41:41):
a big chunk of the apple to tryto bite it and try to swallow
it all in one chunk.
You don't do it that way,You're just looking for one
insight.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, one little step at a time, and you put all
these things together and thenyou can go out into the world
that night and you can startapplying them.
And that's how Grant Cardonedid what he did as quickly as he
did at the age that he wascrazy.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Within 15, 15, 20 years, become a multi self-made
millionaire.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, Just just, and you know it doesn't take a long
time at all.
It's amazing how quickly thingscan happen.
But here's the important pointI think the most important point
.
He had to come up with atremendous amount of money to
get up the corporate churchScientology's bridge, Okay, and
(42:33):
that took time.
That's why it took him as longas it did.
He had to come up with thatmoney, Whereas with us you get
it for a fraction, a fraction ofthe cost.
So what he did in 20 years youmight be able to do in five,
because you don't have to comeup.
You don't have to come up withhundreds and hundreds of
thousands of dollars to do thisstuff, and that's that's.
(42:55):
The most important point isthat the cost is so much cheaper
.
The hardest part is to figureout.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
How do I get it quick enough in my day, yeah, I'll be
honest with you, when dealingwith the corporate church, I
honestly never believed that Iwas going to hit the OT levels
Like I honestly like, like Ijust didn't see how.
Maybe that's what it is.
I didn't see how I could dothat.
(43:23):
And it wasn't until, you know,talking to you and and you so,
like you can, like you can reachfor this level of experience
and just take care of yourentire bridge package and just
take care of your entire bridgepackage, just take care of the
entire thing.
And I was like I had to likefight my old disbelief, so to
speak, like wait, I could dothis.
(43:45):
And once I did it and it waslike no, no, turning back.
It was like okay, and then,like I said, within what?
Six, seven, eight, nine, ninemonths, within months,
everything came back.
And then saw, and now, I'm justin profit.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, and we have bridge packages where you can
get your entire bridge right nowfor half of what we normally
charge for it, which is afraction.
A fraction, and I mean a smallfraction of what the church
charges for your entire bridge,I mean, and you can do it in an
(44:21):
installment or a couple ofinstallments if you have to, but
you get more if you pay it upfront.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, I have to do installments.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, and you get more if you pay up front.
We add things on for you if youpay up front and we'll get you
in session five days a week.
Five days a week and you'll beseeing instantaneous changes in
your life within a matter of afew days to a week.
We've got three auditors herethat can take you in session
(44:53):
Pretty much, and we have thebenefit of being ahead of US
time and a little bit of Europe.
We can get you in sessionpretty much any time of day and
you can go in session one hour,two hours, three hours a day,
and it's that simple.
You just have to start and youcan do it for a fraction of the
cost.
So I hope this has beenenlightening for everybody and
(45:15):
we're glad that you got to theend of the cost.
So I hope this has beenenlightening for everybody and
we're glad that you got to theend of this podcast.
Reach out to us on our Fin AIin the bottom right-hand corner,
as I mentioned earlier, thelittle blue icon.
Send us a message and we'll getin touch with you.
Give us your email address,your phone number and we'll make
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Speaker 2 (45:34):
Namaste.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
And we love you.
Thank you, thank you.
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