Don Wade talks about Liminal Space, and Relationships and MS

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 Don Wade speaks on Liminal  Space 
Speaker 1 [00:00:00] Definitely could attack you at an emotionally weak point in your life. 

Speaker 2 [00:00:09] Yes. 

Speaker 1 [00:00:12] If you're beyond that weak point, might be easier to deal with it. And as I said, just like, this makes total sense. Yes. You know, and you know what? If you are living in that space, you know, I can't even think about that because it is so deep. It is topsy and panic in the person right there in that space. 

Speaker 2 [00:00:43] Well, give me a favorite, then. You know, you gave me something to think about. Is it okay to record this conversation? 

Speaker 1 [00:00:51] Sure. 

Speaker 2 [00:00:52] Okay. So what you. So what I did was answer your question is that, like you said, it was a big it was a big one of the biggest projects I've done on this episode, on this podcast. And I took it from like I looked at it, I researched, I said, Well, first it's the physical limit of space, right? Then there's psychological. 

Speaker 1 [00:01:13] And so again. 

Speaker 2 [00:01:15] If first there's physical limit liminal space where you're walking down a hallway, you are walking from one office to the other. Right. That's physical, that space between. Then there's psychological, a metaphorical liminal space where we talking about you can't make a decision, right? You're in that space. You had a stroke like me. You don't know if you're going to live or die. What I'm going to do in my life, what I'm going to do with my life. 

Speaker 1 [00:01:43] You know, this kind of escape. They just came to take me up and this conversation is going to get deep. And I don't want everyone to have this conversation. Let me call you back as soon as I can. 

Speaker 2 [00:02:00] Okay. All right. Right. All right. Okay. 

Speaker 1 [00:02:07] Heard about it before. It's something I never thought about. Okay. But. But I understand why it's important. And I know how it is that you can get stuck in the in the. In the living space. 

Speaker 2 [00:02:29] Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Your brother gave a really good example with his divorce. 

Speaker 1 [00:02:36] No, no, no, no. It is. Yes. And. An example of his divorce is his ex. I think there is a, sense of understanding that we that we both have. Because we. I drove over, you know, my sister, but I don't. It's almost always these two that have gone through the whole divorce thing or he and I. And the same type of emotional trauma, that that surrounds divorce. And a separation. Of people in your home to carry a gun. He and I, I have for you are going to realize. 

Unidentified [00:03:49] How serious is that? So, you know. 

Speaker 1 [00:03:55] Talking about how we ask you have to want to. Work through, work through it. 

Speaker 2 [00:04:12] Or. 

Speaker 1 [00:04:13] You know, it's almost like how do you gauge how much your game changes and you try to work through it is is the right way to put it is. Yeah. Yeah. 

Speaker 2 [00:04:27] You how how how do you work through it? You know, I went through it with a stroke. With illness. Right. Like you. Yes. And, you know, not knowing what's going to happen next, I can no longer work. I can. It's harder to support my family. I have I'm a different person. Right. So in that space, we work through it. Like, what are you doing? What I'm doing now, you create creativity, you know? Correct? Yeah. Yeah. That's how you work through it. You work through it Like you're like, I

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