October 10, 2025 • 49 mins
"DAMN YOU UNCLE LEWIS" will be taking a hiatus from our usual coverage of FRIDAY THE 13TH THE SERIES episodes until the show launches publicly this fall.
Until then, we've put together a series of FRIDAY THE 13TH THE SERIES SPECTACULAR episodes in which we celebrate some of our favorite F13 heavy-hitting writers, directors and stars by checking out their other work.
First up, HELLO MARY LOU-PROM NIGHT 2 directed by BRUCE PITTMAN (And Now the News, The Mephisto Ring) and starring WENDY LYONS (And Now the News) and LUCAS FERREIRA (Doorway to Hell, Wedding Bell Blues).
Mary Lou Maloney won Prom Queen in 1957.
She came back to slay the competition in 1987.
She's Trae and Patrick's favorite!
But can she survive the Wrath of Maya on her first time viewing?
Tell ya later, alligator!
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This episode of Damn you,Wonka Lewis was Originally broadcast
on July 11, 2025. It's part ofour Friday the 13th the series spectacular
episodes where we're bridgingthe gap between doing episodes on
Friday the 13th the series andgoing public. We wanted to take a
pause from doing that show fora while and released these to help
fill in the gap. They areworking in exactly the same way The
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Friday the 13th spectacularepisodes did on ScreamQueenz for
those who listen to that. Andnow both our patrons and our regular
subscribers have something tolisten to until dammy Wonka Lewis
finally goes public. Now,here's the thing. It's taking longer
than I thought it was goingto. We're running to some problems,
but we're working throughthem. Initially, I was very, very
ambitious and thought I wouldget this thing out to you in October.
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Well, it's October right nowand clearly it's not happening yet.
However, the final date hasbeen set. We will start releasing
episodes of Damn you, UncleLewis going all the way Back to season
one, episode one, starting onJanuary 16, 2026. January 16, 2026.
That's something to lookforward to. Thank you so much for
sticking around. Enjoy theshow. Or should I say, enjoy the
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spectacular. Oh, hello. Comein, come in, come in. Do come in
out of the terrible weather.Oh, welcome, welcome, welcome to
my very curious curio shop.Although I hate to inform you the
shop is closed for tonightbecause there's a. Well, it's a rather
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special evening. It's amonthly meeting of sorts. So unless
you're here for the meeting,I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
The nature of the meeting, youask. Let me put it to you this. Sometimes
Uncle Lewis does dreadfulthings. Welcome to Damn you, Uncle
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Lewis, the Friday the 13th theseries retrospective podcast. Hello,
everyone. Welcome, welcomeback to my very curious, curious
shop. I'm Patrick Walsh and Iam your host. And guess what? If
you come for an episode ofDamn you, Uncle Lewis, well, you're
shit out of luck because we'redoing something special tonight.
Now, if you're listening. Ifyou're a longtime listener of ScreamQueenz,
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the podcast where Harginski,you'll know that there was a tradition
over there that every timeFriday the 13th rolled up on the
calendar that we would do thenext movie in the series. We talk
about the next movie in theseries. And this event became known
as the Friday the 13thspectacular. And it didn't take long
to run out of moviescompletely because ScreamQueenz ran
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much longer than Friday the13th, the film series did. Then we
ran out of movies. Then it wasthe question, what do I do with it?
People love the Spectacular.How do I keep it going? So I just
decided, well, what we'regonna do, every time Friday the 13th
comes up on the calendar,we're gonna talk about a movie that's
tangentially related to theFriday the 13, either by the same
director or the same writer orthe same special effects artist for
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that one. Some sort ofconnection that keeps the theme going.
So we're gonna be doing thathere. While Sc is signing off for
good, we're gonna be taking apause on talking about Friday the
13th, the series episodes. Andinstead, we'll be doing Friday the
13th, the series spectacular.And this time, ladies and gentlemen,
it's not just any spectacular.We're throwing a prom welcome here.
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You hear, you hear, you hear. You.
Welcome to the first ever mycurious, curious. Yep. Senior prom.
All right, let's hear i forMary Lou Maloney, the 1957 Hamilton
High Prom queen.
******** MOVIE TRAILER PLAYSNever mind the stupid ape, bone head.
Just gi
This year, someone special iscoming back to Hamilton High for
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prom night. Mary Lou Maloney.
Mary Lou.
She's been dead for 30 years.Now she's going to use Vicki's body
to get her crown back.
Morning, prom queen.
Only nominated, not thewinners. Not yet.
Harry Luminally has come back.
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Vicky. Wrong.
You came with me.
She will enter your body andpossess you.
See you later, alligator.
For revenge.
Another prom queen hopefulbites. The big woman. Cracking up.
I don't know what's happeningto me.
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She's dead. Dad, you knowsomething about this, don't you?
Suck. No.
See you later, alligator. Shetook the keys to my Cadillac car.
They're playing her song.
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Hello, Mary Lou. Prom nighttwo. ***** END OF MOVIE TRAILER
Now it is my delight tointroduce to you my two favorite
fellow wallflowers. We'll behere all night. We'll not be dancing.
We'll be sitting in thebleaches making fun of all your outfits.
Trade in at Maya Murphy.
Hey, Patrick.
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This is my punch bowl, and I'mnot sharing.
Well, it's already been spiked.
Exactly.
Spiked with vitamin B shots.Because it's 2025 and things are
weird now. I don't know how it gets.
Things are weird now. Thevibes are distinct, you know, Please.
Like we're having a punchbowl. And this.
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Please.
But communal sources.
Blah, blah.
Now, let's go back to 1957. Iimagine that's better.
Why don't we go back to 1957?That's an excellent idea. Yeah. So
the movie that we're talkingabout is hello, Mary lou, prom night
two. Because it had not one,not two, but three Friday the 13th
references, connections. Firstof all, both were directed by Bruce
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Pittman and both stars WendyLyons and also Lucas Ferreira, or
back. Back, as he was knownthen. Josh Lucas. Before it was cool
for him to be Portuguesebecause that's the way the film business
works anyway, but. But it isnow. And he's been super successful
since he switched over, sogood for him. Anyway, what am I talking
about?
All right.
So Trae and I were long time.We're longtime lovers of this film,
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but we've been one of thefirst times Trae was on screen Queens.
We talked about.
Oh, yeah. I love this movie.
Yeah. It never gets old. Nevergets. What is it about hello, Mary
Lou, Prom Night two thatappeals to you so much? Why do you
keep coming back to it? Why doyou love it so much?
I watched again, it just. Ittakes so many different bits and
pieces of all the movies, butit puts them together in a slasher
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format and then just. It's itsown little weird hybrid of vibes.
There's no other movie quitelike it. It's a very visual movie.
Great lines, really campy. Itwas written that the guy who wrote
it is gay.
Ron Oliver.
Yeah. Yeah.
Hi, Friend of show, Ron Oliver.
Hi.
So it just has a great senseof humor about itself, but it also
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just feel. It's just a veryvisual movie. It looks great.
Okay. Okay. Mine is similar. Ilove that it is. Again, that screenplay
is so wonderfully. Even beforeI cluded how gay it was, it's gay
without being gay. It's gotgay sensibilities. Like you could
put. You could put Divine inthe role of Mary Lou. And it plays
the same way or not, but it'sgot this wonderful gay comfortableness
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to it that makes magic. But ontop of that, it's. They are throwing
everything they've got at thescreen. They like. They are being
as imaginative as they canwith this tiny little budget and
they put the money in theright places. The cast is phenomenal.
I love.
Everybody Came to Play. Andit's a charming, charming little
film. Even though it's got ableak, awful Canadian ending. Because
that's how they roll now. Thewhole thing was.
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We've been.
I realized Trae and I havebeen talking about this movie on
the show in front of Maya forso long. Say, maya, gotta see it,
Maya. Gotta see it, Maya. I'vesaid, you know what? She's Gotta
fucking hate this movie. Maya,how much did you hate this movie?
How much did you hate this movie?
And Trae and I have disagreedon many things where neither of us
is right or wrong. But, like,we've had this aesthetic schism for
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years. And listening to howmuch he loves this movie, I was like,
oh, it's going to be a Traemovie and I'm not going to like it.
And that's fine. And I'llfinally understand it and I'll know
Trae Louis little betterhaving watched it. And I could not
have been more wrong. I lovethis movie. This was great. I'm angry
at everyone who has seen this,who didn't tell me about it. This
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movie was great. All of it wasgreat. Every last element. The. The
writing is gay and funny. Andwhen they spend money on special
effects, they're wonderful.And they're the visual storytelling,
like Trae was saying. And thenit plays with your expectations and
subverts them. You think youknow what's coming with a physical
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gag. You think they're gonnado some Final Destination stuff.
And then they go, surprise.Totally different death. You thought
you knew. It's so much fun.And then being the type of violent
sci fi nerd I am, I, of courseadore Starship Troopers. So when
I turned it on and the firstcredit was Michael Ironsides.
Yes. Canadian Treasure.Michael Ironside.
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Canadian Treasure. They suckedhis brain out. Ironside. I. Oh, I
could not have been more soldon this film. Everyone should see
it.
Yeah. It's a delight. It's.It's a. The sequel. Not so much.
Not a big fan of Part three.
That's a shame.
Well, they didn't bring back.They didn't break Mary Lou. I'm like,
where's Mary? With my MaryLou? This girl, the girl who did
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it was fine. But it's not thesame energy. It's not. She's not
that.
No.
That energy. Yeah. I want tobottle that. The cold open. And I
loved every minute of it withthe lipstick. I love her and I. That
she's an ungodly terror whodoesn't have to be sexually abused
to get there.
Yeah.
Like murdered. Whatever. Itwas an accidental murder. The number
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of movies I have sat throughwhere I have watched so much violence
happen. So woman can do alittle murder. This movie was great.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
She.
But she's like the mean highschool girl who goes psychotic, but
she never loses that mean girlvibe, which I really enjoyed.
The mean girls I knew weren'thaving that much fun. Fun with it.
They Also, like had this deepself hatred. Mary Lou, like, whatever.
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That doesn't affect me. Thanksfor the jewelry. I'm going over here.
I love her.
1957 was not ready for MaryLouis. They set her on fire. It turns
out 1986 wasn't ready for hereither. The world still isn't ready
for Marilyn. She doesn't givea. She just is about. She's in it
for herself. She loves life.She loves. She's complete. What's.
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What's the word? I'm thinkingpeople who love pleasure.
She's a hedonist.
She's a hedonist.
Complete hedonist. And she'snot ashamed of it. She's not ashamed
of her body. She's not shadedfor sexuality. She's like, I'll fuck
with anyone I want. I'm notashamed. The first scene, the first
scene as a recovery Catholic,that first scene in the confession
booth is gold. Maya, walk methrough what happens. By the way,
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I was going to wear. I wasgoing to wear for a good time called
Mary Luther.
He's rubbing his nipples,listeners. He's pointing to his nipples
and his fingers are moving inlittle circles. A woman in a headscarf
is in a dramatically litconfessional. And it's doing that
really sexy thing where thecamera is focused on her face so
you can see the screen andsoft focus. And she's listing all
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of her sins. And the priest isgoing, oh, those are some serious
sins. You're gonna have toatone pretty hard. She's like, I'm
not done yet.
Many boys.
Excuse me.
Many boys.
Many times. And I enjoyed allof it. And she writes for a good
time. Call Mary Lou. And herphone number in lipstick inside the
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confessional.
That is so bad. That's soballer on so many levels. The fact
that you are writing your ownphone number in the. In, in. On the
wall is one thing. To be doingit in a confessional is amazing.
Amazing, amazing, amazing.
No notes.
No notes.
Wap.
Babaloo.
Baba Wap. Bamboo.
Bamboo. And she gives such agreat performance in that scene.
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Just the lines.
Oh, yeah. Finding someone whocan bring that vibe is hard. That
is. That is masterful. Thatis. That is finding the right person.
She eats this role.
She absolutely. Even, even,even her headshot is prop. Eats this
role.
Oh, yes.
Ding, ding, ding. Maya's favorite.
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Because I mean, granted, it's,it's, it's just a. It's a high school.
Supposed to be a high schoolsenior portrait. It's clearly a headshot,
but it's also clearly 80sbecause she's wearing a vest. It's
like a. It's a sleevelessshirt with a vest. It's clearly a
denim thing, but I don't care.I don't care. I don't care. By the
way, that phone number thatyou wrote.
Yeah?
It's screenwriters. RonOliver's home phone number. He said
nobody ever called.
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Wow. Wow.
I love this whole opening,too. I love how long we spend in
1957 before we go to theMaple. I love how comfortable we
get.
I love that her original promdate is a teenager with a receding
hairline. God bless us, everyone.
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I love the casting on youngMichael Ironside. That's. He's a
ringer.
Yeah.
Yeah, he looks like him.
I. Two things I caught thistime through in the opening. When
she goes. When she dumps. Whenshe dumps Buddy to go play with the
other guy who becomes thepriest. That's fucking around on
that. That again in thetheater department. Never fuck around
the theater department. You'llget haunted. You'll stay there forever.
But. But this fire painted allthe wall behind them, so it's foreshadowing
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of what's coming. And we getit. And we get an America Town reference.
I caught it at the time, but Ididn't take notes on this one.
He's like, if you like buddiesso much, what are you doing here
with me? She's like, well,it's a big, free country. And he
says, God bless America. And Iwas gonna say, it's a big, free country.
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Whichever one we happen to bein at the moment, nobody really knows.
Mary Lou's a big freak.
Yeah, she's that big freak.God bless her. God bless her. God
bless her. And the otherthing, just going back to the whole.
My favorite thing about it.Once I noticed it, Mary Lou, when
she comes back from the dead,she's. It's not random, her coming
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back. She's summoned backbecause there's good things in life,
especially dealing with. With.With evil prom girls and gay men.
Don't touch our crowns. Notouch. Okay. Never touch a woman's
purse. Never touch a gay man'scrown. Never do it. Never do it.
It's like everything was fineuntil Jess broke that tiara. She
would. She pulled the jewelrydown. Fuck you. That was mine. That's
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my crown.
Literally. It's the rules wehave from Friday the 13th. The object
has to stay in the safe area.Apparently this one trunk in the
theater department was enoughto keep her contained. But then on
a On a quest for a real bluedress. We. We unleash the horrors.
Well, your green dress will bejust fine.
I want a blue dress.
Your green dress.
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I'm gonna go shopping afterschool. I'll be back late.
I co. Sign the checks becausewe live in an era where you could
pay for things with checks.
Remember checks? What's I. Ido. I have so many that I thought
I was gonna need.
It's a cereal rice.
Checks. We love overbearingChristian parents, but also they're
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fleshed out. Well, the dad isat least.
And fleshed in.
Later. I'm obsessed with theactress playing Vicki. She does such
a good job embodying boththese women.
Yeah, she's so good.
She gets put to the ringer.And she wears mom jeans that are
insane.
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She wears mom jeans. And whenshe walks around naked, I'm like,
those jeans were not doing youany favor.
Oh, no. Yeah.
You know what? Things I'velearned about this new scene that.
Okay, Trae, I haven't heardfrom you, but walk me through this.
This locker room scene thatwe're about to talk about.
Oh, I love the locker roomscene. Okay, so Vic Vicki's possessed
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by Mary Lou, and she's goingto kill her best friend. So she's
in the locker and they startmaking out in a very sensual scene
that gets creepy.
Hold on. They are not makingout. She gets in her personal space
and like, kisses her foreheadand kisses her cheek.
You're right.
But it starts getting innocentand it starts getting more erotic
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on Vicky's part. And then it just.
Aggressive.
Yeah, it's a very aggressiveside. So I mean, aggressive. And
so she starts chasing herfriend through the locker room. Her
friend is hiding in a locker,but Vicky is walking full nude, full
beave out as a power move.Walking, stalking her through the
locker room, taking herfingers, running them down the sides
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of the lockers and FreddyKrueger style. Yeah, yeah, but it's
just this was. But the actressdid it full nude and it's. Yeah,
it's striking.
And we've established her assuch. Well, the. The real Vicky is
such a prude. And like, herboyfriend, who loves her, got her
a cross necklace and she's.She's so chaste and modest. So like
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to just have this full selfpossessed of. I'm gonna find you.
Yeah.
Two things. Things I'velearned about that. Apparently going
full nude was Wendy Lyon's idea.
Good for her. Good for her.
The other thing I realizedthis time through, particularly now
that it's in Blu Ray, thatlighting is fluorescent lighting.
There's not a shadow. There'snowhere to hide. There's no erotic
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lighting on her body. It'sjust glaring fucking nudity in your
face. Like every. Everypimple, every. Every fold, every
crease. There's nothing sexualabout it. She looks stark and scary.
Yeah.
And it's so. It's so brave.It's such a brave thing to do. And
doing nudity is always hard,but nudity, when you know you're
gonna look like. Like this issomething else too. But it's bullpen.
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I would say that was whenwe're stalking her friend. When her
friend gets in the locker, Igo, oh, we're gonna do the poster
art. We're gonna set her onfire in the poster. And then just
the lockers crush the fridge.What spoil spills out? Oh, and it's
gnarly and it's upsetting andyou barely even have time to react.
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And we move on. I love it.
And I love that it's thepunchline to a musical stinger.
Yes.
Yeah.
When Mary Lou looks rightdown, the camera goes wop baba loop,
bop, wop, smosh.
But the whole scene is what?It's like a mini movie. Because,
like, the soundtrack to thisis amazing. Because then it cuts.
You have like this tonal soundthrough some of the real tent scenes.
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So it has like a little sting,a whop ba ba loop, a whop bam. And
it crushes her. But then itcuts to the door slamming with an
out of order. So it has thattone that gives it a downbeat vibe
instead of an upbeat FreddyKrueger vi. And I appreciated that.
I begged it. Therefore, Istill think it's a great punt. Like,
like, even. Even her. Like,flipping the sign that says says
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rest your metaphor, and thenpop it a stick of gum.
Oh, yeah.
But they don't.
But they kind of. With thesound and everything, they would
give it kind of like amournful tone a little bit.
That was one of the things Iwas going to say. Like what? Since
I want to talk about BrucePittman, like, the two episodes that
he directed a Friday the 13thdisease series were both favorites
of ours, and they're hugely,totally different. It was. And now
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the news with the hauntedradio and the Mephisto ring with
the cursed gambling ring. Andwhat I love about this, everything,
like, everything in here iscampy. Nothing's played for camp.
And they are.
They are ripping off left andright from other movies. We've got
the Exorcist in here. Exorcistin here. We've got Carrie. We've
got Prom Night, obviously.We've got Nightmare on Elm Street.
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Lots of that. We've got allthese influences and yet it never
feels stolen. It feels likeit's fresh in its own thing. And
I think that's a huge thing.And even like I said, there's this
gay campiness running throughit, but nobody plays that. And I
think it makes it soeffective. It makes the jokes even
better.
Yeah. It's not scary movie.It's played serious.
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There's no winking at the audience.
Exactly. They're not.
Except when there is. Which Ithink is great. But when she literally
winks at the audience.
Yeah, except for when sheliterally winks at the audience.
But Mary Lou can do that. MaryLou's allowed. Mary Lou's loud.
Exactly.
No, but Wendy lies it.
And Jack Torrance. End of list.
And so I don't even have. Idon't have like terrible. I don't
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have the woman who played MaryLou's name in front of me. I just
focused on what a performance.I love that she's able to like pop
up like for like one secondand just be terrifying without doing
anything. Like I'm justthinking that one of the things I
love about Wendy Lyonsperformance is her ability to like.
Like she has those momentswhere she flips in and out of things.
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Yeah. Really quick.
Where she snaps.
Yes.
And one of my favorite ones iswhen she's. She's in class and you
know, Monica passed throughthe yearbook to look at it. Looks
at Mary Lou Maloney and MaryLou pops up in the, in the seat next
to her where the bully wasjust sitting up.
Oh, the mean girl and thepolka dot. Yeah.
Where Kelly is sitting there.She just said what's the matter?
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What's the matter? Blankingeverybody's name. What's the matter?
Vicky? And then all of asudden she's Mary Lou cracking up.
Yeah.
Wildly funny, Wildly funny stuff.
But the timing is all. Is allpristine. That's all. You know, between
the script and the, thedirector they are, they are vibing.
And the thing is too, that Iwant to bring up too is that this
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wasn't supposed to be a Promnight sequel. This was filmed as
the Haunting of Hamilton High,which most people know.
And.
They got bought out. Theybought into this non existent franchise
at the time. And I'm thinkingit probably is a really good thing
they did. I don't think theywould have been able to afford the
music rights to those 50songs. And the movie is so much better
with those 50 songs.
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I was wondering about thatbecause I was clocking how many expensive
songs they were playing. Andthe rest of the movie didn't seem
like it had the budget for that.
Yeah, we don't have any 80s songs.
It adds so much, though.
Yeah, it does.
It's a wonderful. Like. Likejust when the locker room scene when
I'm sick. Even when they'renot using the 50 songs themselves.
When you're hearing WhenVicky. Barry Lou. Vicky is stalking
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Monica and she's rubbing herfingers and you're not seeing her.
You can hear her singingsomething. And then as obviously
you realize she's singing toode Fruity. Oh, Rudy. She's just singing
the song was talking her bestfriend. And it's so wonderfully done.
All of it's. All the musicchoices are brilliant. I love on.
I don't think they would beable to afford a single one of them
had they not sold out. So goodfor them. Because there's no reason
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for this movie to exist.There's no reason for this to be
prominent. Oh, Trae, Trae,Trae. We're going to teach my something.
What? What? What things?
What four. What things do allfour prom night movies have in common?
There's. Okay, they have BrockSampson, the actor. He's the nerdy
guy with the potato in this one.
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The computer guy is in allfour movies playing different characters.
He always.
Respectfully, the actor isBrock Simpson. Brock Sampson is the
character from the Venture Brothers.
Thank you. Thank you.
Who is also played by Brock.No, Is that.
There's a line in all fourmovies. It's not who you go with.
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It's who takes you home.
It's not who you come with.Yeah. And the location. Other than
that, they don't have anythingin common.
But.
But I love that Brock pops upin all four completely different.
Completely differentcharacters and almost always dies.
Good for him. I loved him. Andhis failed potato.
Oh, his outfit. Oh, my God.Actually, my vest is inspired by
him because he wore that awfulcowboy vest.
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Okay.
With horses on. I'm like, whatare you wearing, honey? What are
you wearing? What hit me thistime through. Maya touched on it
a bit. Is how much fun all ofthe adults are normally in a movie
like this. In a high schoolmovie, the adults are the dead weights.
They're boring. Everybody'shaving so much fun. All these characters,
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every single one of them areso much fun.
A priest showing up to MichaelIronside's house to be like, the
curse is back. She's back.She's possessed.
Well, I particularly thosetwo. I love Michael Einstein the
Priest. And I don't have thatactor's name in front of me either
because I'm all for person. Iloved it watching it this time, like,
because I realized, wow,Richard Monette, that, that Mary
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Lou burning up at the prom.What you did at the prom was enough
to scare you. That's some deepwounds. And he plays that beautifully
too, throughout. I think it'sgreat. And I love that even though
they were mortal enemies, theyhave this weird bond and they care
about each other. Like whenMichael Iron cries. When he dies.
Michael Ironsides crying.
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Oh, yeah. He digs him up. Andhe's got the crucifix jammed in his
mouth.
His mouth.
No fucking wings. Oh, nofucking wings.
I die. I love it so much.
I don't really. If I was.
If I.
If I'm promised a pretty gownand a harp and wings, I expect that.
Thank you. I was the pack.That's what I was told of these years.
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God damn it.
I want my goddamn in themovie. That might be the gayest line
in the movie.
No, my favorite line in themovie belongs to Wendy. Not when.
Kelly. Kelly, the lady it'syours is the same dress that Liz
Taylor wore to the Oscars. Thelady at Sears says the same dress.
Okay, that's pretty good too.
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At the Oscars.
Here's the thing. I've beenlooking for the picture that actually
is a dress that Liz Taylorwore the Oscars. That is that dress.
It's the same dress. The polkadots, the fan of the shoulder. Kelly's
wearing a low rent version ofit. I. I love Kelly. The only thing,
my only thing that I don'tlike about this movie is that Kelly's
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death is lame. But you know,when she gets stabbed with the neon
thing, she died the most 80sway possible. That is an 80s way
to die.
She did.
I will commit to that for, youknow, for the character. You want
to see the character get itbad. And she didn't. Everybody else
got much, much worse than shedid. Other regrets is that I. I love.
I. I love her parents. Just goback to the adults. I love her parents.
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I love her parents. I love thebunker. The green dress is just.
The green dress is not fine.
Ma.
Up.
You need to spend more timewith the Lord. Suck a dick, Ma.
And the point.
Deadly. Poor dad and CrazyHorsey. Crazy Horsey.
My God. Kelly was one of themain voice actors in the Care Bears.
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Yeah, she's got. She was incube zero or cube. Yeah, general.
46 episodes. Good God.
Yeah. Most Canadians, theywork a lot.
Well, like I said, the onething. Watching it again, I realized
this movie is shotbeautifully. You could almost frame,
like, stop at any point. Theframing is great. The lighting, the
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way he. It's not a flat movie.It's always very dynamic. It doesn't
feel just hastily thrown together.
You are so spot on that. Thelighting, the use of fire, the every
shot, like they. They don'thave any money and they make it beautiful
anyways, like those lighting.
Things, the lighting effectswith the. With the trunk in particular
at the end are totally stupid.They should suck. They look great.
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They look great.
Craig's being sucked in theother direction. There's just that
crazy, like, poltergeistlighting going on. It looks great.
I also love that. Sorry. MaryLou's real name, Lisa.
Oh, sorry.
I love actually how bothactresses are able to make those.
Those 50s cliche lines.Threatening and scary. See you later,
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alligator.
Oh, we do a rule of threes onsee you later, alligator. Yeah, yeah,
they make you wait for thatone. I love it.
Yeah, the blackboard scene,just that you don't have money, but
you don't need it. I was.
I was screaming, crying,throwing up. That blackboard scene.
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So good.
What's happening in theblackboard scene?
Vicky gets sucked into ablackboard and it turns into this
whirling pool of brackishwater. And the letters that were
on the blackboard are swirlingaround in there with her because
she's been having these breakswhere Mary Lou is, like, made these
little hell portals in thehigh school and. And, like, they.
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They snap in and out. So allof a sudden she's alone in the classroom.
And once she's alone, no one'sobserving her. All of a sudden, the
entire room is now a threat.And when she finally gets back out
of it, the letters are wherethey stopped in the whirlpool.
Oh, she got. She don't getback out of it. She had sucked into
it forever. She gets suckedinto it.
Sorry, sorry.
The continuity of the lettersthat were floating around the water,
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freezing on the blackboard wasso nice. It's a nice.
She emerges out of somethingelse later. That's what I meant.
And you know that she's evilwhen she comes out of the trunk.
You know how you know she'sevil, Maya?
How?
She has crimped hair.
Yes. Oh, I was gonna say she's always.
Always a giveaway.
She's finally wearing mascara.
No, no, it's because she'sevil Bernadette Peters. Ladies era.
Bernadette Peters. Her hair.
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Yeah. Not her chest hair.
And then. Can I jump rightinto this?
I was going. I was goingseparate. Did you hear about Bernadette,
Peter's comment on. Yeah. OnCalla Scola's dress?
No.
She said, oh, I thought it wasa wonderful Cher beard, except I
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wore my chest hair swirling inthe other direction when I wore the
dress.
Bless her.
Good for him. Or them.
Them. Yeah. This is why welove her. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean
to interrupt. I did, though.
But also this scene with Jesswhere her friend Jess confesses that
she's now pregnant. And thewhole shot is just a one long, slow
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zoom in as they just talk. Andthe movie's like, let's just let
them be actors and act. Andyou're just watching them.
That scene is heartbreaking,and it's so real. None of it's played
for laughs. We're not slutshaming anyone. Of course the slut
is the first one to diebecause it's a horror movie. Yeah.
No, it wasn't because she wasa slut, though. Because she broke
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my tiara. Everything was fine.Up until then. I was happy both.
Mary Lou was happy in hertrunk. There was no supernatural
things going on before thatmoment. None.
I love the fake.
Forgot the cape, bonehead.Just give me the crown.
That was. I loved that. Iloved watching the art room go to
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kill Jess. And soon as I sawthe paper cutter, I was like, oh,
we're doing Final Destinationstuff. I love a Rube Goldberg machine
that leads us up to a grizzlymurder and then. And then just yanked
right up to the ceilinginstead. You don't know what's coming
you. I do it the way I want.
No, because Mary Lou's like,wait, that's my cape. She's gonna
bleed on my cape. No.
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Nope.
No. Out the window.
Oh, wait.
And then she's hung and herneck is broken. Is clearly dead.
It's like 30 seconds later.Then she gets throw out the window.
Mary's like, you know what?
You. You. I won't. You donewith this now?
But I love that. Had noempathy for jazz at all. Like, normally,
you'd be like, oh, no. Noempathy. No.
Oh, yeah. When I check onVicki later, and they're like, why
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are you still sad?
I meant the movie. Like, in anAmerican movie. Like, oh, she would
have been the main leadcharacter. She would. The best friend
who dies last or something.She had an arc. Like, your arc. I'm
the Sol. But Yeah, so. Well,if you don't remember Wendy Lyons,
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like, she was in. She only hadone scene and. And now the news.
Bedazzled jacket, right?
No, no, she was a prisoner inthe asylum.
Prisoner. What am I remembering?
It was The Haunted Radio 1where the prisoners would be in the
asylum, were being killed bythe worst phobias by. By Stone Cold
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Effie Stokes return. And shewas the one that got it with snakes.
Yeah, that was awful.
Yeah, that was awful. And wewere all talking like she cranked
it to 11 and held it for thatwhole scene.
Sorry, I'm thinking about oneof Ryan's old girlfriends. Yeah,
wrong episode. My bad.
Fair enough. Fair enough.We've had lots of them. No, she did.
She.
She was crazy, but she wasn'tthat crazy to Ryan died.
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Anyways.
Anyway. Yeah, but no, butyeah. And she brings all that here.
Like she's. She is. I justlove how seriously she's taken. And
I just wanted to talk aboutthe other guy, Louis Ferreira, who
plays Craig, who's charming.Who's charming. He got knocked out
85 times in his episode too,which was the doorway to hell, which
was with the haunted house onewith the mirrors and Uncle Lewis.
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Ah.
Jack's boyfriend Rashid.Rashid was Rashid's big episode.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he was. He was the onethat Uncle Lewis kept possessing
through the mirror.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he was the. Yeah, yeah.
That actor's so cute.
He's very cute. He's had ahuge career. He's had a huge career
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in Stargate. So he's. He'sbeen doing great and they have great
chemistry together. I thinkthey're adorable together. They're
like. They're been a highschool couple that you're like. When
they get together, like, yeah,they're gonna make it.
Yeah, yeah.
This. This is right. Becauseyou can tell your friends first and
then you're dating. I loveeverything that's going on with both.
I think they're great. I thinkthey're adorable.
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Oh, he is still working allthe time.
Oh, yeah.
He was a Breaking Bad.
Yeah.
Westworld.
Yeah.
This is like.
This is only his third shogun.Good for him.
This is only a second or thirdproject that he worked on. But yeah,
he's doing great work. Andhe'll be back on Friday the 13th.
Be back in Wedding Bell Blues,which is not the one we're doing
next time. It's anotherwedding episode.
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Oh, okay.
You think the wedding were asource of trauma or something. But.
There is only one human heart.
At mine Jeannie's packing upJeannie's moving out Packing out
Pack all her clothes tonightAway she goes.
I'm sorry. I'm an alto, so Idon't remember what the melody of
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that is, because it was my jobto go. Just repeat the first two
lines underneath it as rhythm.
Oh, this is somewhat relatednow. Here in New York, there's this
revival, semi revival redo ofPirates of Benzant's playing with
Jinx Monsoon in it, which, ofcourse, you know, the pirate movie
version. It's basically theexact same story, but Jinx Monsoon
is playing the.
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Ruth, Frederick's.
Nanny, the pirate king's ladysidekick who starts all the trouble,
the horny old woman who's onthe. But okay, 47.
47 is not that old.
I'm just saying. But I'm justsaying, in the, in the, in the story,
she's supposed to be the hagof the story. Like, there's a whole
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scene where he. WhereFrederick, finally, when she's betrothing
herself to Frederick, she'slike, yes, you be mine and I'll be
whatever. Yes, yes. Remember,Ruth renewals before you, all that
stuff. But. And he sees thegirls and she's, oh, my gosh. That's
what beautiful women looklike. How dare you, Ruth? And he's
throwing. He's yelling at JinxMonsoon, and he's like, get away
from me, you horrible, uglybeast. And I just wanted to be like.
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And play and play and play, too.
I have seen and been in somany productions of Pirates. And
watching Jinx Monsoon was thefirst time I saw anyone make sense
of the line. Remember, Ruth?
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I bet that was amazing. I loveJinx. I'm glad she's getting this
whole career on Broadway.
Oh, me too. I'm so happy for her.
I don't want to go down thisroute because we're still doing a
show here, but I, I, I, Ididn't. Didn't love the production.
It was very roundabout.
Okay, you, you go home, Patrick.
I didn't like him.
No, I meant for the roundaboutjoke, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It was very. Did roundaboutthings always, like, have great ideas,
but they never really followthrough on them.
Like, I went in with.
I get, I get you got JinxMonsoon playing a fabulous drag queen
playing Ruth, but I think sheneeded to be dumpier in act one to
be.
Yeah, I didn't understand whywe didn't do a sexy costume change
in Act 2. That didn't make anysense to me.
Because I didn't, I didn'tKnow why? What's the problem? Like,
she's a. Like, as we'reseeing, Ruth is a gorgeous woman.
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Why are we playing pretendingthat she's ugly?
Yeah. Why are we playing that?For laughs.
Yeah.
I think I went in expectingthem to ruin it and make fun of the
source material for beingstodgy. So when they didn't do that,
my expectations were alreadysurpassed. And then nuggets of it
were so great that I was never.
Say nuggets to me. Nuggets isone of those words I hate. That's
my moist. Nuggets are mymoist. I hate that word so much.
All right, then there wereparts of the show that I thought
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were very funny and successful.
Wendy's have been sellingsaucy nugs. And every time I see
the animation. Okay, allright, back. Back to the movie. Is
there anything else we want totalk about?
Oof. I'm going to talk for anhour about it. Just pick it apart.
But no, not really.
No. I love the ending. I lovethe ending because I feel like we're
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pulling the punch on MichaelIronside for the entire movie. And
then finally we get thatdevilish grin at the end and, hey,
what a twist. And then like,like credits.
I caught something this timethrough what? You catch that early
on, one of the scenes with thepriest and him that are like, dude,
normally when I zone out a bitbecause it's not fun as fun. It's
not as fun as teenagers. But Iwas more focused in this time. The
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priest says, she's going topossess. She's come back. She's going
to possess you because youkilled her. The priest was right.
And that's exactly what happened.
That's exactly what happened.He called it out and he go, well,
well, she can't possess mebecause I'm a priest, so he cannot
possess.
Me because she cannot possessme. He had an accordion, too. Sorry,
I'm Judy Tenuta now.
Well, there was like. Well,just the idea of her going for his
son. There's a scene whereMary Lou goes after the son and then
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the father has a nightmare of,like, pulling out, like a dark night,
like the back seat of a carlit up. And his son's shirtless,
screaming. And Mary Lou's kindof shirtless behind him, like, laughing
evilly. And just the father.And then Mary Lou later telling the
father, Craig is so cool. Whatwas he going to be?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Going after him after his sonwas just cold blooded.
Oh, no, no. Trae, since youbrought this up. Yeah. You had a
problem with the movie. Lasttime we talked about it back in.
I don't know when the. Thatwas. Whatever goddamn year it was
back in the odd odds.
What was. What was it?
You had a problem when shecalled him a. When she called Craig
a. What? You turned on me.
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Oh, yeah.
Now it's part of the time.
You know, when we remake themovie, we'll fix the line just like
Sondheim did.
Well, I don't know. She's from1959 for 1957.
1957. It's 1986. That slur isalso in Heather's. And I'm gonna
keep rewatching Heather's forever.
Yeah, well, the characterwould say something like that.
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Yeah, but if I'm making itnow, I can coddle myself a little
so I don't have to like have aknee jerk reaction.
You'd have a whole 4chan pagededicated to you.
Yeah, actually.
No, seriously.
If I made it onto 4chan when Iwas on Fox News. Thanks for putting
that idea in my head. Let'sall go. Not look.
Let's not go look. Let's not.Let's put her on there now. Let's
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bring up the whole.
Let's think. Let's not.
Let's let it die. Let's pleasenot. Please know. That brought me
down too. Thank you very much.Way to go, Maya.
Unlike Mary Lou. Let's let it die.
Let's let it die. No, she's.She's fabulous. I love her. I also.
What? This is just dumb. Thisis the thing I noticed too. This.
I love that it's in that eraof the 80s where everybody just wore
big things. Things. Everythingwas big.
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The hair is big. The bows arebig. The ruffles are big. I love
chunky.
Monica is a beautiful youngwoman. And that like floor length
blue dress. I'm like, whatprairie did you crawl off on? Monica,
what are you doing?
I love when justice for Monica.
I love. Oh, sorry. Go.
I'm sorry. I was gonna saywhen Vicky first gets possessed,
the way she inspects her newbody, like, oh, this will do. I can
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dance. I can. This is great.
Like, like, not as good as myold one.
Not as good as my old one. Butyou can. Like just. The assessment
was so. It was so funny. Iloved it.
Oh. One of the things that Ithink is. Is notable is that this
deport where Josh. Is that hisname? Josh?
I think so.
Yeah. The computer saying thatshe's keeps saying that she's possessed.
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Like, oh, yeah. Oh, she's gotthe head Spanning Linda Blairsville.
This is one of the first timehorror movies got meta. One of the
first times that happened.Yeah, I don't know if it's the first,
but it's very early on. Iremember the time being shocked that
they're bringing up another movie.
I was surprised at that too.
I remember reading a thing, anarticle about it, where it mentioned
that line too.
Also, no, normally I hate, Ihate the relates. Like normally in
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these movies the teens aredisposable. I actually really, I
really hated Josh.
Me too.
Beginning. And it's mostlybecause that potato thing, the whole
potato thing, I don't like it,but I love it again now. And here's
why. This is what I caughtdoing. The potato thing is not what
I was going to start with.Where's the potato? What are you
saying? This, this is a momentthat will be inserted into the anals
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of history. And you all knowhow painful that could be. When he
says anals, we cut to the onepunk kid in the class with like the
denim vest and like all thepet piercings. I'm like, why did
they cut to him? We've nevergot to him when they said anals.
Outed.
We're talking about yours,Chuck. We're talking about your anals
right now. We're gonna put itin your anal, Chuck. But I love it.
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I love the potato momentthough because it just reminded schmucks
I went to high school withbeing like, this is technically kind
of the assignment and I'mgonna show off to the teacher and
like, I don't know, I, I lovedit. Loved all of it.
Yeah. Also this, this. One ofthe things I don't like about the
movie is that all thecharacters last names are hard movie
directors. And it's that gotreal tired real fast. Like every
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movie did that for a while,but I'll let it go. But I do love
that even though I startedhating Josh, I love the relationship
with Josh and Monica.
Yeah, Yeah.
I like Monica a lot too. Shewas, she made the most of everything
she was in.
Yeah, I, I, I don't know. Ithink this is a newer convention
where they make teenagers andslashers too clean, too sympathetic
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because teenagers are messyand full of hormones and doing stupid
stuff.
Yeah.
And not just like set off theplot point, evil stuff, but just
like stupid stuff. And this,they were all complex and, and dumb
in their own ways.
Even Monica had that momentwhen she's like, I don't know why
boys would talk to me off what you.
We all know why. Boys want totalk to you.
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But. But, yeah, I felt badthat, like, when Josh shows up at
the problem with his specialmon. Little corsage for. I'm like,
she's not coming, honey. No,man, she's not coming. It was sad.
Also, I just realized, Maya,the guy who's announcing the pro,
the winner at the end,announcing Vicki is the winner is
Stan, the sister's perfectboyfriend from pen.
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We.
Stan. Stan. He's in this moviewith a mullet.
You know, it was a rough. Itwas a rough era for hair.
He looks great at it. Becausehe's Stan. He can do no run.
Yeah, no, he's just. He's justa good guy.
Hey, Kelly, how'd you blow itwith my mouth?
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Oh, you want some gummy? Yourbreath is great.
See, that's why I didn't likeJosh, because that was sort of making
him a, you know, predator.But, yeah, that was still.
She came in predatoringalready, though.
Yeah, he. He negotiated.
She came in with.
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She came in. She came in withthe break in the law bid. He's like,
okay, but that $100 isn'tgoing to do it. You know, she could
have said no.
She came. She was ready, andthen she accepted the terms and spoke
how she thought the deal wasgoing to go. I. Is it a little icky?
Yes. See the Predator in thatsituation. They're both terrible.
They're both terrible. Yeah,they're both there and they're both
dead. So it's okay. Theproblem's been. So once again, the
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problem's been solved. Thanks,Mary Lou, problem solver. Did you
also catch that when. When.When he puts in Kelly. I mean, Vicky
as the winner, when he getskilled and. And Marilyn catches him,
that. The printouts are like.The parent on the screen's like,
nope, wrong.
Dead wrong.
Wrong.
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And then it's a story with twoO's. I was like, did you see that?
I did not see that.
It didn't happen. But in my version.
Oh, in your head.
In your head, Cannon. It said,sorry because we're in America town
in Canada.
Sorry.
And I love how, like, MaryLou's magic is that she's just enjoying
the prom. He's about to changeit. She gets, like, this psychic
notion. She just reaches overto an outlet, grabs it, zaps him,
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and then just. Okay. Goes backto promote.
She has indeterminate powers.That. I don't care. Please continue.
That's the whole high school.It's her high school. I. Those. That
was my headcanon is especiallylike Vicki didn't break the crown.
That's not her fault. Why isVicki gonna suffer?
Like, because it'll hurt.It'll hurt Craig, which will hurt
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Buddy. It all comes back to Buddy.
I think. I think the wholehigh school grounds.
And they all just suck. Youall just suck. All you people suck.
I'm gonna.
Everyone who sucks should die.
I'm sorry. Sorry, Monica. Youcriticize my clothes. You keep talking
to me when I'm with Craig,who's my man. So scram. You won't
scram. I say swell. Thank you.Nobody says swell anymore. Another
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great line. Monica was toogood a friend. She had to go.
Yep.
I love when the mom gets blownto the window. That makes me really
happy.
Yeah, that was nice. That wasa little too cathartic there, huh?
Yeah, yeah, it's a greatlittle movie. Anyway, I don't have
anything else to say. I thinkit's great. Bruce Prittman, Wendy
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Lyons, Lucas Ferreira. Welldone. Well done. It's a gem of a
little. And Ron Oliver since Iknow he's probably might be out there
listening. Hi, Ron. We love Ron.
And thanks for both of you forfinally getting me to watch this.
I'm so happy you liked it.
It's a treat. I'm going tocome back to it. I watched it on
tv so I'm excited to watch it.Get in high res and see what else
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I get.
The blu ray is $60.
Well, yeah, it hasn't reallybeen officially released on. On Blu
Rays like on DVD a while back.So it's really a good version of.
It's not that easy to find.
All right.
Heard I. I got it done on.Shutter is fine. It's an 80s.
Okay, never mind.
I don't know how it was. It'snot anywhere it's on Amazon now,
(46:26):
but. Okay, I own it.
All right.
But it's one of those. I don'tlike 80s movies to be that high dev
anyway because the makeupfalls apart. What was I going to
say? I want to. To figure outwhat we're going to do for the next
thing, which I did. And Iforgot the director's name, so give
me a second. And. And Trae,I'm going to need your input on this
one because we have to make adecision here. One of the most prolific
(46:46):
directors that we keep comingacross on Friday the 13th of the
series, I think he directedpossibly 15, 16 episodes. Some who
haven't seen it is WilliamFruit. He directed the. The pilot
and many of the ones that havebeen one of the many of the highlight
episodes that we talked. Oneof our. Many of our favorites. So,
Trae, should we watch FuneralHome with Leslie Donaldson, who's
(47:11):
another Friday the 13th connection?
We're always talking aboutDegrees of Leslie.
Donaldson or Killer Party.
Oh, Killer Party's fun. Idon't remember Funeral Home that
well, but I remember KillerParty and it's a lot of fun.
But if we watch Funeral Home,then Patrick and I can sing Fun Home
(47:33):
the whole time.
We can do that. Also, I don'tthink Killer Parties are available,
but we will have to, you know.Hey, listeners. Listeners. Oh, yes,
listeners. Why don't you tellus. You tell us which movie you want
us to talk about. I loveFuneral Home, but it's goofy and
kind of weird and not a greatmovie. And I don't know how it got
nominated for Gemini Awards,but it did. But it figures. It figures.
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It's one of the seminal films.And I said seminal. Of this director,
one of his most favoritefilms. And it's got our girl, Leslie
Donaldson. And Killer Party isone of the most bizarre, charming
Canadian slasher movies youcould possibly imagine. It's like.
It's like Mary Lou, but oncrack. Mary Lou did all the cocaine
you'd get. Killer Party stillcharming and cute and gay.
Vivia.
(48:14):
Because it's got what it's gotwhat's his name in it. The other
half of Mary Warrenoff andPaul Bartel. Paul Bartel. Yeah. So
listeners will leave it up toyou. So write it and let us know.
So until next time, I thinkthat's it. So, like I said, thank
you for sticking in this.Thank this weird transitional period
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October, which is whenhopefully, Damian Lewis will return
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you come for an episode ofDamn you, Uncle Lewis, well, you're
shit out of luck because we'redoing something special tonight.
Now, if you're listening. Ifyou're a longtime listener of ScreamQueenz,
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the podcast where Harginski,you'll know that there was a tradition
over there that every timeFriday the 13th rolled up on the
calendar that we would do thenext movie in the series. We talk
about the next movie in theseries. And this event became known
as the Friday the 13thspectacular. And it didn't take long
to run out of moviescompletely because ScreamQueenz ran
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much longer than Friday the13th, the film series did. Then we
ran out of movies. Then it wasthe question, what do I do with it?
People love the Spectacular.How do I keep it going? So I just
decided, well, what we'regonna do, every time Friday the 13th
comes up on the calendar,we're gonna talk about a movie that's
tangentially related to theFriday the 13, either by the same
director or the same writer orthe same special effects artist for
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that one. Some sort ofconnection that keeps the theme going.
So we're gonna be doing thathere. While Sc is signing off for
good, we're gonna be taking apause on talking about Friday the
13th, the series episodes. Andinstead, we'll be doing Friday the
13th, the series spectacular.And this time, ladies and gentlemen,
it's not just any spectacular.We're throwing a prom welcome here.
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You hear, you hear, you hear. You.
Welcome to the first ever mycurious, curious. Yep. Senior prom.
All right, let's hear i forMary Lou Maloney, the 1957 Hamilton
High Prom queen.
******** MOVIE TRAILER PLAYSNever mind the stupid ape, bone head.
Just gi
This year, someone special iscoming back to Hamilton High for
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prom night. Mary Lou Maloney.
Mary Lou.
She's been dead for 30 years.Now she's going to use Vicki's body
to get her crown back.
Morning, prom queen.
Only nominated, not thewinners. Not yet.
Harry Luminally has come back.
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Vicky. Wrong.
You came with me.
She will enter your body andpossess you.
See you later, alligator.
For revenge.
Another prom queen hopefulbites. The big woman. Cracking up.
I don't know what's happeningto me.
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She's dead. Dad, you knowsomething about this, don't you?
Suck. No.
See you later, alligator. Shetook the keys to my Cadillac car.
They're playing her song.
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Hello, Mary Lou. Prom nighttwo. ***** END OF MOVIE TRAILER
Now it is my delight tointroduce to you my two favorite
fellow wallflowers. We'll behere all night. We'll not be dancing.
We'll be sitting in thebleaches making fun of all your outfits.
Trade in at Maya Murphy.
Hey, Patrick.
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This is my punch bowl, and I'mnot sharing.
Well, it's already been spiked.
Exactly.
Spiked with vitamin B shots.Because it's 2025 and things are
weird now. I don't know how it gets.
Things are weird now. Thevibes are distinct, you know, Please.
Like we're having a punchbowl. And this.
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Please.
But communal sources.
Blah, blah.
Now, let's go back to 1957. Iimagine that's better.
Why don't we go back to 1957?That's an excellent idea. Yeah. So
the movie that we're talkingabout is hello, Mary lou, prom night
two. Because it had not one,not two, but three Friday the 13th
references, connections. Firstof all, both were directed by Bruce
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Pittman and both stars WendyLyons and also Lucas Ferreira, or
back. Back, as he was knownthen. Josh Lucas. Before it was cool
for him to be Portuguesebecause that's the way the film business
works anyway, but. But it isnow. And he's been super successful
since he switched over, sogood for him. Anyway, what am I talking
about?
All right.
So Trae and I were long time.We're longtime lovers of this film,
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but we've been one of thefirst times Trae was on screen Queens.
We talked about.
Oh, yeah. I love this movie.
Yeah. It never gets old. Nevergets. What is it about hello, Mary
Lou, Prom Night two thatappeals to you so much? Why do you
keep coming back to it? Why doyou love it so much?
I watched again, it just. Ittakes so many different bits and
pieces of all the movies, butit puts them together in a slasher
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format and then just. It's itsown little weird hybrid of vibes.
There's no other movie quitelike it. It's a very visual movie.
Great lines, really campy. Itwas written that the guy who wrote
it is gay.
Ron Oliver.
Yeah. Yeah.
Hi, Friend of show, Ron Oliver.
Hi.
So it just has a great senseof humor about itself, but it also
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just feel. It's just a veryvisual movie. It looks great.
Okay. Okay. Mine is similar. Ilove that it is. Again, that screenplay
is so wonderfully. Even beforeI cluded how gay it was, it's gay
without being gay. It's gotgay sensibilities. Like you could
put. You could put Divine inthe role of Mary Lou. And it plays
the same way or not, but it'sgot this wonderful gay comfortableness
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to it that makes magic. But ontop of that, it's. They are throwing
everything they've got at thescreen. They like. They are being
as imaginative as they canwith this tiny little budget and
they put the money in theright places. The cast is phenomenal.
I love.
Everybody Came to Play. Andit's a charming, charming little
film. Even though it's got ableak, awful Canadian ending. Because
that's how they roll now. Thewhole thing was.
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We've been.
I realized Trae and I havebeen talking about this movie on
the show in front of Maya forso long. Say, maya, gotta see it,
Maya. Gotta see it, Maya. I'vesaid, you know what? She's Gotta
fucking hate this movie. Maya,how much did you hate this movie?
How much did you hate this movie?
And Trae and I have disagreedon many things where neither of us
is right or wrong. But, like,we've had this aesthetic schism for
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years. And listening to howmuch he loves this movie, I was like,
oh, it's going to be a Traemovie and I'm not going to like it.
And that's fine. And I'llfinally understand it and I'll know
Trae Louis little betterhaving watched it. And I could not
have been more wrong. I lovethis movie. This was great. I'm angry
at everyone who has seen this,who didn't tell me about it. This
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movie was great. All of it wasgreat. Every last element. The. The
writing is gay and funny. Andwhen they spend money on special
effects, they're wonderful.And they're the visual storytelling,
like Trae was saying. And thenit plays with your expectations and
subverts them. You think youknow what's coming with a physical
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gag. You think they're gonnado some Final Destination stuff.
And then they go, surprise.Totally different death. You thought
you knew. It's so much fun.And then being the type of violent
sci fi nerd I am, I, of courseadore Starship Troopers. So when
I turned it on and the firstcredit was Michael Ironsides.
Yes. Canadian Treasure.Michael Ironside.
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Canadian Treasure. They suckedhis brain out. Ironside. I. Oh, I
could not have been more soldon this film. Everyone should see
it.
Yeah. It's a delight. It's.It's a. The sequel. Not so much.
Not a big fan of Part three.
That's a shame.
Well, they didn't bring back.They didn't break Mary Lou. I'm like,
where's Mary? With my MaryLou? This girl, the girl who did
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it was fine. But it's not thesame energy. It's not. She's not
that.
No.
That energy. Yeah. I want tobottle that. The cold open. And I
loved every minute of it withthe lipstick. I love her and I. That
she's an ungodly terror whodoesn't have to be sexually abused
to get there.
Yeah.
Like murdered. Whatever. Itwas an accidental murder. The number
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of movies I have sat throughwhere I have watched so much violence
happen. So woman can do alittle murder. This movie was great.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
She.
But she's like the mean highschool girl who goes psychotic, but
she never loses that mean girlvibe, which I really enjoyed.
The mean girls I knew weren'thaving that much fun. Fun with it.
They Also, like had this deepself hatred. Mary Lou, like, whatever.
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That doesn't affect me. Thanksfor the jewelry. I'm going over here.
I love her.
1957 was not ready for MaryLouis. They set her on fire. It turns
out 1986 wasn't ready for hereither. The world still isn't ready
for Marilyn. She doesn't givea. She just is about. She's in it
for herself. She loves life.She loves. She's complete. What's.
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What's the word? I'm thinkingpeople who love pleasure.
She's a hedonist.
She's a hedonist.
Complete hedonist. And she'snot ashamed of it. She's not ashamed
of her body. She's not shadedfor sexuality. She's like, I'll fuck
with anyone I want. I'm notashamed. The first scene, the first
scene as a recovery Catholic,that first scene in the confession
booth is gold. Maya, walk methrough what happens. By the way,
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I was going to wear. I wasgoing to wear for a good time called
Mary Luther.
He's rubbing his nipples,listeners. He's pointing to his nipples
and his fingers are moving inlittle circles. A woman in a headscarf
is in a dramatically litconfessional. And it's doing that
really sexy thing where thecamera is focused on her face so
you can see the screen andsoft focus. And she's listing all
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of her sins. And the priest isgoing, oh, those are some serious
sins. You're gonna have toatone pretty hard. She's like, I'm
not done yet.
Many boys.
Excuse me.
Many boys.
Many times. And I enjoyed allof it. And she writes for a good
time. Call Mary Lou. And herphone number in lipstick inside the
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confessional.
That is so bad. That's soballer on so many levels. The fact
that you are writing your ownphone number in the. In, in. On the
wall is one thing. To be doingit in a confessional is amazing.
Amazing, amazing, amazing.
No notes.
No notes.
Wap.
Babaloo.
Baba Wap. Bamboo.
Bamboo. And she gives such agreat performance in that scene.
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Just the lines.
Oh, yeah. Finding someone whocan bring that vibe is hard. That
is. That is masterful. Thatis. That is finding the right person.
She eats this role.
She absolutely. Even, even,even her headshot is prop. Eats this
role.
Oh, yes.
Ding, ding, ding. Maya's favorite.
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Because I mean, granted, it's,it's, it's just a. It's a high school.
Supposed to be a high schoolsenior portrait. It's clearly a headshot,
but it's also clearly 80sbecause she's wearing a vest. It's
like a. It's a sleevelessshirt with a vest. It's clearly a
denim thing, but I don't care.I don't care. I don't care. By the
way, that phone number thatyou wrote.
Yeah?
It's screenwriters. RonOliver's home phone number. He said
nobody ever called.
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Wow. Wow.
I love this whole opening,too. I love how long we spend in
1957 before we go to theMaple. I love how comfortable we
get.
I love that her original promdate is a teenager with a receding
hairline. God bless us, everyone.
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I love the casting on youngMichael Ironside. That's. He's a
ringer.
Yeah.
Yeah, he looks like him.
I. Two things I caught thistime through in the opening. When
she goes. When she dumps. Whenshe dumps Buddy to go play with the
other guy who becomes thepriest. That's fucking around on
that. That again in thetheater department. Never fuck around
the theater department. You'llget haunted. You'll stay there forever.
But. But this fire painted allthe wall behind them, so it's foreshadowing
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of what's coming. And we getit. And we get an America Town reference.
I caught it at the time, but Ididn't take notes on this one.
He's like, if you like buddiesso much, what are you doing here
with me? She's like, well,it's a big, free country. And he
says, God bless America. And Iwas gonna say, it's a big, free country.
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Whichever one we happen to bein at the moment, nobody really knows.
Mary Lou's a big freak.
Yeah, she's that big freak.God bless her. God bless her. God
bless her. And the otherthing, just going back to the whole.
My favorite thing about it.Once I noticed it, Mary Lou, when
she comes back from the dead,she's. It's not random, her coming
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back. She's summoned backbecause there's good things in life,
especially dealing with. With.With evil prom girls and gay men.
Don't touch our crowns. Notouch. Okay. Never touch a woman's
purse. Never touch a gay man'scrown. Never do it. Never do it.
It's like everything was fineuntil Jess broke that tiara. She
would. She pulled the jewelrydown. Fuck you. That was mine. That's
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my crown.
Literally. It's the rules wehave from Friday the 13th. The object
has to stay in the safe area.Apparently this one trunk in the
theater department was enoughto keep her contained. But then on
a On a quest for a real bluedress. We. We unleash the horrors.
Well, your green dress will bejust fine.
I want a blue dress.
Your green dress.
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I'm gonna go shopping afterschool. I'll be back late.
I co. Sign the checks becausewe live in an era where you could
pay for things with checks.
Remember checks? What's I. Ido. I have so many that I thought
I was gonna need.
It's a cereal rice.
Checks. We love overbearingChristian parents, but also they're
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fleshed out. Well, the dad isat least.
And fleshed in.
Later. I'm obsessed with theactress playing Vicki. She does such
a good job embodying boththese women.
Yeah, she's so good.
She gets put to the ringer.And she wears mom jeans that are
insane.
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She wears mom jeans. And whenshe walks around naked, I'm like,
those jeans were not doing youany favor.
Oh, no. Yeah.
You know what? Things I'velearned about this new scene that.
Okay, Trae, I haven't heardfrom you, but walk me through this.
This locker room scene thatwe're about to talk about.
Oh, I love the locker roomscene. Okay, so Vic Vicki's possessed
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by Mary Lou, and she's goingto kill her best friend. So she's
in the locker and they startmaking out in a very sensual scene
that gets creepy.
Hold on. They are not makingout. She gets in her personal space
and like, kisses her foreheadand kisses her cheek.
You're right.
But it starts getting innocentand it starts getting more erotic
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on Vicky's part. And then it just.
Aggressive.
Yeah, it's a very aggressiveside. So I mean, aggressive. And
so she starts chasing herfriend through the locker room. Her
friend is hiding in a locker,but Vicky is walking full nude, full
beave out as a power move.Walking, stalking her through the
locker room, taking herfingers, running them down the sides
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of the lockers and FreddyKrueger style. Yeah, yeah, but it's
just this was. But the actressdid it full nude and it's. Yeah,
it's striking.
And we've established her assuch. Well, the. The real Vicky is
such a prude. And like, herboyfriend, who loves her, got her
a cross necklace and she's.She's so chaste and modest. So like
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to just have this full selfpossessed of. I'm gonna find you.
Yeah.
Two things. Things I'velearned about that. Apparently going
full nude was Wendy Lyon's idea.
Good for her. Good for her.
The other thing I realizedthis time through, particularly now
that it's in Blu Ray, thatlighting is fluorescent lighting.
There's not a shadow. There'snowhere to hide. There's no erotic
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lighting on her body. It'sjust glaring fucking nudity in your
face. Like every. Everypimple, every. Every fold, every
crease. There's nothing sexualabout it. She looks stark and scary.
Yeah.
And it's so. It's so brave.It's such a brave thing to do. And
doing nudity is always hard,but nudity, when you know you're
gonna look like. Like this issomething else too. But it's bullpen.
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I would say that was whenwe're stalking her friend. When her
friend gets in the locker, Igo, oh, we're gonna do the poster
art. We're gonna set her onfire in the poster. And then just
the lockers crush the fridge.What spoil spills out? Oh, and it's
gnarly and it's upsetting andyou barely even have time to react.
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And we move on. I love it.
And I love that it's thepunchline to a musical stinger.
Yes.
Yeah.
When Mary Lou looks rightdown, the camera goes wop baba loop,
bop, wop, smosh.
But the whole scene is what?It's like a mini movie. Because,
like, the soundtrack to thisis amazing. Because then it cuts.
You have like this tonal soundthrough some of the real tent scenes.
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So it has like a little sting,a whop ba ba loop, a whop bam. And
it crushes her. But then itcuts to the door slamming with an
out of order. So it has thattone that gives it a downbeat vibe
instead of an upbeat FreddyKrueger vi. And I appreciated that.
I begged it. Therefore, Istill think it's a great punt. Like,
like, even. Even her. Like,flipping the sign that says says
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rest your metaphor, and thenpop it a stick of gum.
Oh, yeah.
But they don't.
But they kind of. With thesound and everything, they would
give it kind of like amournful tone a little bit.
That was one of the things Iwas going to say. Like what? Since
I want to talk about BrucePittman, like, the two episodes that
he directed a Friday the 13thdisease series were both favorites
of ours, and they're hugely,totally different. It was. And now
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the news with the hauntedradio and the Mephisto ring with
the cursed gambling ring. Andwhat I love about this, everything,
like, everything in here iscampy. Nothing's played for camp.
And they are.
They are ripping off left andright from other movies. We've got
the Exorcist in here. Exorcistin here. We've got Carrie. We've
got Prom Night, obviously.We've got Nightmare on Elm Street.
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Lots of that. We've got allthese influences and yet it never
feels stolen. It feels likeit's fresh in its own thing. And
I think that's a huge thing.And even like I said, there's this
gay campiness running throughit, but nobody plays that. And I
think it makes it soeffective. It makes the jokes even
better.
Yeah. It's not scary movie.It's played serious.
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There's no winking at the audience.
Exactly. They're not.
Except when there is. Which Ithink is great. But when she literally
winks at the audience.
Yeah, except for when sheliterally winks at the audience.
But Mary Lou can do that. MaryLou's allowed. Mary Lou's loud.
Exactly.
No, but Wendy lies it.
And Jack Torrance. End of list.
And so I don't even have. Idon't have like terrible. I don't
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have the woman who played MaryLou's name in front of me. I just
focused on what a performance.I love that she's able to like pop
up like for like one secondand just be terrifying without doing
anything. Like I'm justthinking that one of the things I
love about Wendy Lyonsperformance is her ability to like.
Like she has those momentswhere she flips in and out of things.
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Yeah. Really quick.
Where she snaps.
Yes.
And one of my favorite ones iswhen she's. She's in class and you
know, Monica passed throughthe yearbook to look at it. Looks
at Mary Lou Maloney and MaryLou pops up in the, in the seat next
to her where the bully wasjust sitting up.
Oh, the mean girl and thepolka dot. Yeah.
Where Kelly is sitting there.She just said what's the matter?
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What's the matter? Blankingeverybody's name. What's the matter?
Vicky? And then all of asudden she's Mary Lou cracking up.
Yeah.
Wildly funny, Wildly funny stuff.
But the timing is all. Is allpristine. That's all. You know, between
the script and the, thedirector they are, they are vibing.
And the thing is too, that Iwant to bring up too is that this
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wasn't supposed to be a Promnight sequel. This was filmed as
the Haunting of Hamilton High,which most people know.
And.
They got bought out. Theybought into this non existent franchise
at the time. And I'm thinkingit probably is a really good thing
they did. I don't think theywould have been able to afford the
music rights to those 50songs. And the movie is so much better
with those 50 songs.
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I was wondering about thatbecause I was clocking how many expensive
songs they were playing. Andthe rest of the movie didn't seem
like it had the budget for that.
Yeah, we don't have any 80s songs.
It adds so much, though.
Yeah, it does.
It's a wonderful. Like. Likejust when the locker room scene when
I'm sick. Even when they'renot using the 50 songs themselves.
When you're hearing WhenVicky. Barry Lou. Vicky is stalking
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Monica and she's rubbing herfingers and you're not seeing her.
You can hear her singingsomething. And then as obviously
you realize she's singing toode Fruity. Oh, Rudy. She's just singing
the song was talking her bestfriend. And it's so wonderfully done.
All of it's. All the musicchoices are brilliant. I love on.
I don't think they would beable to afford a single one of them
had they not sold out. So goodfor them. Because there's no reason
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for this movie to exist.There's no reason for this to be
prominent. Oh, Trae, Trae,Trae. We're going to teach my something.
What? What? What things?
What four. What things do allfour prom night movies have in common?
There's. Okay, they have BrockSampson, the actor. He's the nerdy
guy with the potato in this one.
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The computer guy is in allfour movies playing different characters.
He always.
Respectfully, the actor isBrock Simpson. Brock Sampson is the
character from the Venture Brothers.
Thank you. Thank you.
Who is also played by Brock.No, Is that.
There's a line in all fourmovies. It's not who you go with.
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It's who takes you home.
It's not who you come with.Yeah. And the location. Other than
that, they don't have anythingin common.
But.
But I love that Brock pops upin all four completely different.
Completely differentcharacters and almost always dies.
Good for him. I loved him. Andhis failed potato.
Oh, his outfit. Oh, my God.Actually, my vest is inspired by
him because he wore that awfulcowboy vest.
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Okay.
With horses on. I'm like, whatare you wearing, honey? What are
you wearing? What hit me thistime through. Maya touched on it
a bit. Is how much fun all ofthe adults are normally in a movie
like this. In a high schoolmovie, the adults are the dead weights.
They're boring. Everybody'shaving so much fun. All these characters,
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every single one of them areso much fun.
A priest showing up to MichaelIronside's house to be like, the
curse is back. She's back.She's possessed.
Well, I particularly thosetwo. I love Michael Einstein the
Priest. And I don't have thatactor's name in front of me either
because I'm all for person. Iloved it watching it this time, like,
because I realized, wow,Richard Monette, that, that Mary
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Lou burning up at the prom.What you did at the prom was enough
to scare you. That's some deepwounds. And he plays that beautifully
too, throughout. I think it'sgreat. And I love that even though
they were mortal enemies, theyhave this weird bond and they care
about each other. Like whenMichael Iron cries. When he dies.
Michael Ironsides crying.
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Oh, yeah. He digs him up. Andhe's got the crucifix jammed in his
mouth.
His mouth.
No fucking wings. Oh, nofucking wings.
I die. I love it so much.
I don't really. If I was.
If I.
If I'm promised a pretty gownand a harp and wings, I expect that.
Thank you. I was the pack.That's what I was told of these years.
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God damn it.
I want my goddamn in themovie. That might be the gayest line
in the movie.
No, my favorite line in themovie belongs to Wendy. Not when.
Kelly. Kelly, the lady it'syours is the same dress that Liz
Taylor wore to the Oscars. Thelady at Sears says the same dress.
Okay, that's pretty good too.
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At the Oscars.
Here's the thing. I've beenlooking for the picture that actually
is a dress that Liz Taylorwore the Oscars. That is that dress.
It's the same dress. The polkadots, the fan of the shoulder. Kelly's
wearing a low rent version ofit. I. I love Kelly. The only thing,
my only thing that I don'tlike about this movie is that Kelly's
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death is lame. But you know,when she gets stabbed with the neon
thing, she died the most 80sway possible. That is an 80s way
to die.
She did.
I will commit to that for, youknow, for the character. You want
to see the character get itbad. And she didn't. Everybody else
got much, much worse than shedid. Other regrets is that I. I love.
I. I love her parents. Just goback to the adults. I love her parents.
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I love her parents. I love thebunker. The green dress is just.
The green dress is not fine.
Ma.
Up.
You need to spend more timewith the Lord. Suck a dick, Ma.
And the point.
Deadly. Poor dad and CrazyHorsey. Crazy Horsey.
My God. Kelly was one of themain voice actors in the Care Bears.
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Yeah, she's got. She was incube zero or cube. Yeah, general.
46 episodes. Good God.
Yeah. Most Canadians, theywork a lot.
Well, like I said, the onething. Watching it again, I realized
this movie is shotbeautifully. You could almost frame,
like, stop at any point. Theframing is great. The lighting, the
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way he. It's not a flat movie.It's always very dynamic. It doesn't
feel just hastily thrown together.
You are so spot on that. Thelighting, the use of fire, the every
shot, like they. They don'thave any money and they make it beautiful
anyways, like those lighting.
Things, the lighting effectswith the. With the trunk in particular
at the end are totally stupid.They should suck. They look great.
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They look great.
Craig's being sucked in theother direction. There's just that
crazy, like, poltergeistlighting going on. It looks great.
I also love that. Sorry. MaryLou's real name, Lisa.
Oh, sorry.
I love actually how bothactresses are able to make those.
Those 50s cliche lines.Threatening and scary. See you later,
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alligator.
Oh, we do a rule of threes onsee you later, alligator. Yeah, yeah,
they make you wait for thatone. I love it.
Yeah, the blackboard scene,just that you don't have money, but
you don't need it. I was.
I was screaming, crying,throwing up. That blackboard scene.
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So good.
What's happening in theblackboard scene?
Vicky gets sucked into ablackboard and it turns into this
whirling pool of brackishwater. And the letters that were
on the blackboard are swirlingaround in there with her because
she's been having these breakswhere Mary Lou is, like, made these
little hell portals in thehigh school and. And, like, they.
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They snap in and out. So allof a sudden she's alone in the classroom.
And once she's alone, no one'sobserving her. All of a sudden, the
entire room is now a threat.And when she finally gets back out
of it, the letters are wherethey stopped in the whirlpool.
Oh, she got. She don't getback out of it. She had sucked into
it forever. She gets suckedinto it.
Sorry, sorry.
The continuity of the lettersthat were floating around the water,
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freezing on the blackboard wasso nice. It's a nice.
She emerges out of somethingelse later. That's what I meant.
And you know that she's evilwhen she comes out of the trunk.
You know how you know she'sevil, Maya?
How?
She has crimped hair.
Yes. Oh, I was gonna say she's always.
Always a giveaway.
She's finally wearing mascara.
No, no, it's because she'sevil Bernadette Peters. Ladies era.
Bernadette Peters. Her hair.
(29:00):
Yeah. Not her chest hair.
And then. Can I jump rightinto this?
I was going. I was goingseparate. Did you hear about Bernadette,
Peter's comment on. Yeah. OnCalla Scola's dress?
No.
She said, oh, I thought it wasa wonderful Cher beard, except I
(29:21):
wore my chest hair swirling inthe other direction when I wore the
dress.
Bless her.
Good for him. Or them.
Them. Yeah. This is why welove her. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean
to interrupt. I did, though.
But also this scene with Jesswhere her friend Jess confesses that
she's now pregnant. And thewhole shot is just a one long, slow
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zoom in as they just talk. Andthe movie's like, let's just let
them be actors and act. Andyou're just watching them.
That scene is heartbreaking,and it's so real. None of it's played
for laughs. We're not slutshaming anyone. Of course the slut
is the first one to diebecause it's a horror movie. Yeah.
No, it wasn't because she wasa slut, though. Because she broke
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my tiara. Everything was fine.Up until then. I was happy both.
Mary Lou was happy in hertrunk. There was no supernatural
things going on before thatmoment. None.
I love the fake.
Forgot the cape, bonehead.Just give me the crown.
That was. I loved that. Iloved watching the art room go to
(30:27):
kill Jess. And soon as I sawthe paper cutter, I was like, oh,
we're doing Final Destinationstuff. I love a Rube Goldberg machine
that leads us up to a grizzlymurder and then. And then just yanked
right up to the ceilinginstead. You don't know what's coming
you. I do it the way I want.
No, because Mary Lou's like,wait, that's my cape. She's gonna
bleed on my cape. No.
(30:47):
Nope.
No. Out the window.
Oh, wait.
And then she's hung and herneck is broken. Is clearly dead.
It's like 30 seconds later.Then she gets throw out the window.
Mary's like, you know what?
You. You. I won't. You donewith this now?
But I love that. Had noempathy for jazz at all. Like, normally,
you'd be like, oh, no. Noempathy. No.
Oh, yeah. When I check onVicki later, and they're like, why
(31:08):
are you still sad?
I meant the movie. Like, in anAmerican movie. Like, oh, she would
have been the main leadcharacter. She would. The best friend
who dies last or something.She had an arc. Like, your arc. I'm
the Sol. But Yeah, so. Well,if you don't remember Wendy Lyons,
(31:32):
like, she was in. She only hadone scene and. And now the news.
Bedazzled jacket, right?
No, no, she was a prisoner inthe asylum.
Prisoner. What am I remembering?
It was The Haunted Radio 1where the prisoners would be in the
asylum, were being killed bythe worst phobias by. By Stone Cold
(31:55):
Effie Stokes return. And shewas the one that got it with snakes.
Yeah, that was awful.
Yeah, that was awful. And wewere all talking like she cranked
it to 11 and held it for thatwhole scene.
Sorry, I'm thinking about oneof Ryan's old girlfriends. Yeah,
wrong episode. My bad.
Fair enough. Fair enough.We've had lots of them. No, she did.
She.
She was crazy, but she wasn'tthat crazy to Ryan died.
(32:16):
Anyways.
Anyway. Yeah, but no, butyeah. And she brings all that here.
Like she's. She is. I justlove how seriously she's taken. And
I just wanted to talk aboutthe other guy, Louis Ferreira, who
plays Craig, who's charming.Who's charming. He got knocked out
85 times in his episode too,which was the doorway to hell, which
was with the haunted house onewith the mirrors and Uncle Lewis.
(32:43):
Ah.
Jack's boyfriend Rashid.Rashid was Rashid's big episode.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he was. He was the onethat Uncle Lewis kept possessing
through the mirror.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he was the. Yeah, yeah.
That actor's so cute.
He's very cute. He's had ahuge career. He's had a huge career
(33:05):
in Stargate. So he's. He'sbeen doing great and they have great
chemistry together. I thinkthey're adorable together. They're
like. They're been a highschool couple that you're like. When
they get together, like, yeah,they're gonna make it.
Yeah, yeah.
This. This is right. Becauseyou can tell your friends first and
then you're dating. I loveeverything that's going on with both.
I think they're great. I thinkthey're adorable.
(33:27):
Oh, he is still working allthe time.
Oh, yeah.
He was a Breaking Bad.
Yeah.
Westworld.
Yeah.
This is like.
This is only his third shogun.Good for him.
This is only a second or thirdproject that he worked on. But yeah,
he's doing great work. Andhe'll be back on Friday the 13th.
Be back in Wedding Bell Blues,which is not the one we're doing
next time. It's anotherwedding episode.
(33:49):
Oh, okay.
You think the wedding were asource of trauma or something. But.
There is only one human heart.
At mine Jeannie's packing upJeannie's moving out Packing out
Pack all her clothes tonightAway she goes.
I'm sorry. I'm an alto, so Idon't remember what the melody of
(34:10):
that is, because it was my jobto go. Just repeat the first two
lines underneath it as rhythm.
Oh, this is somewhat relatednow. Here in New York, there's this
revival, semi revival redo ofPirates of Benzant's playing with
Jinx Monsoon in it, which, ofcourse, you know, the pirate movie
version. It's basically theexact same story, but Jinx Monsoon
is playing the.
(34:32):
Ruth, Frederick's.
Nanny, the pirate king's ladysidekick who starts all the trouble,
the horny old woman who's onthe. But okay, 47.
47 is not that old.
I'm just saying. But I'm justsaying, in the, in the, in the story,
she's supposed to be the hagof the story. Like, there's a whole
(34:52):
scene where he. WhereFrederick, finally, when she's betrothing
herself to Frederick, she'slike, yes, you be mine and I'll be
whatever. Yes, yes. Remember,Ruth renewals before you, all that
stuff. But. And he sees thegirls and she's, oh, my gosh. That's
what beautiful women looklike. How dare you, Ruth? And he's
throwing. He's yelling at JinxMonsoon, and he's like, get away
from me, you horrible, uglybeast. And I just wanted to be like.
(35:14):
And play and play and play, too.
I have seen and been in somany productions of Pirates. And
watching Jinx Monsoon was thefirst time I saw anyone make sense
of the line. Remember, Ruth?
(35:34):
I bet that was amazing. I loveJinx. I'm glad she's getting this
whole career on Broadway.
Oh, me too. I'm so happy for her.
I don't want to go down thisroute because we're still doing a
show here, but I, I, I, Ididn't. Didn't love the production.
It was very roundabout.
Okay, you, you go home, Patrick.
I didn't like him.
No, I meant for the roundaboutjoke, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
(35:56):
It was very. Did roundaboutthings always, like, have great ideas,
but they never really followthrough on them.
Like, I went in with.
I get, I get you got JinxMonsoon playing a fabulous drag queen
playing Ruth, but I think sheneeded to be dumpier in act one to
be.
Yeah, I didn't understand whywe didn't do a sexy costume change
in Act 2. That didn't make anysense to me.
Because I didn't, I didn'tKnow why? What's the problem? Like,
she's a. Like, as we'reseeing, Ruth is a gorgeous woman.
(36:18):
Why are we playing pretendingthat she's ugly?
Yeah. Why are we playing that?For laughs.
Yeah.
I think I went in expectingthem to ruin it and make fun of the
source material for beingstodgy. So when they didn't do that,
my expectations were alreadysurpassed. And then nuggets of it
were so great that I was never.
Say nuggets to me. Nuggets isone of those words I hate. That's
my moist. Nuggets are mymoist. I hate that word so much.
All right, then there wereparts of the show that I thought
(36:41):
were very funny and successful.
Wendy's have been sellingsaucy nugs. And every time I see
the animation. Okay, allright, back. Back to the movie. Is
there anything else we want totalk about?
Oof. I'm going to talk for anhour about it. Just pick it apart.
But no, not really.
No. I love the ending. I lovethe ending because I feel like we're
(37:04):
pulling the punch on MichaelIronside for the entire movie. And
then finally we get thatdevilish grin at the end and, hey,
what a twist. And then like,like credits.
I caught something this timethrough what? You catch that early
on, one of the scenes with thepriest and him that are like, dude,
normally when I zone out a bitbecause it's not fun as fun. It's
not as fun as teenagers. But Iwas more focused in this time. The
(37:25):
priest says, she's going topossess. She's come back. She's going
to possess you because youkilled her. The priest was right.
And that's exactly what happened.
That's exactly what happened.He called it out and he go, well,
well, she can't possess mebecause I'm a priest, so he cannot
possess.
Me because she cannot possessme. He had an accordion, too. Sorry,
I'm Judy Tenuta now.
Well, there was like. Well,just the idea of her going for his
son. There's a scene whereMary Lou goes after the son and then
(37:46):
the father has a nightmare of,like, pulling out, like a dark night,
like the back seat of a carlit up. And his son's shirtless,
screaming. And Mary Lou's kindof shirtless behind him, like, laughing
evilly. And just the father.And then Mary Lou later telling the
father, Craig is so cool. Whatwas he going to be?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(38:07):
Going after him after his sonwas just cold blooded.
Oh, no, no. Trae, since youbrought this up. Yeah. You had a
problem with the movie. Lasttime we talked about it back in.
I don't know when the. Thatwas. Whatever goddamn year it was
back in the odd odds.
What was. What was it?
You had a problem when shecalled him a. When she called Craig
a. What? You turned on me.
(38:28):
Oh, yeah.
Now it's part of the time.
You know, when we remake themovie, we'll fix the line just like
Sondheim did.
Well, I don't know. She's from1959 for 1957.
1957. It's 1986. That slur isalso in Heather's. And I'm gonna
keep rewatching Heather's forever.
Yeah, well, the characterwould say something like that.
(38:48):
Yeah, but if I'm making itnow, I can coddle myself a little
so I don't have to like have aknee jerk reaction.
You'd have a whole 4chan pagededicated to you.
Yeah, actually.
No, seriously.
If I made it onto 4chan when Iwas on Fox News. Thanks for putting
that idea in my head. Let'sall go. Not look.
Let's not go look. Let's not.Let's put her on there now. Let's
(39:11):
bring up the whole.
Let's think. Let's not.
Let's let it die. Let's pleasenot. Please know. That brought me
down too. Thank you very much.Way to go, Maya.
Unlike Mary Lou. Let's let it die.
Let's let it die. No, she's.She's fabulous. I love her. I also.
What? This is just dumb. Thisis the thing I noticed too. This.
I love that it's in that eraof the 80s where everybody just wore
big things. Things. Everythingwas big.
(39:33):
The hair is big. The bows arebig. The ruffles are big. I love
chunky.
Monica is a beautiful youngwoman. And that like floor length
blue dress. I'm like, whatprairie did you crawl off on? Monica,
what are you doing?
I love when justice for Monica.
I love. Oh, sorry. Go.
I'm sorry. I was gonna saywhen Vicky first gets possessed,
the way she inspects her newbody, like, oh, this will do. I can
(39:56):
dance. I can. This is great.
Like, like, not as good as myold one.
Not as good as my old one. Butyou can. Like just. The assessment
was so. It was so funny. Iloved it.
Oh. One of the things that Ithink is. Is notable is that this
deport where Josh. Is that hisname? Josh?
I think so.
Yeah. The computer saying thatshe's keeps saying that she's possessed.
(40:20):
Like, oh, yeah. Oh, she's gotthe head Spanning Linda Blairsville.
This is one of the first timehorror movies got meta. One of the
first times that happened.Yeah, I don't know if it's the first,
but it's very early on. Iremember the time being shocked that
they're bringing up another movie.
I was surprised at that too.
I remember reading a thing, anarticle about it, where it mentioned
that line too.
Also, no, normally I hate, Ihate the relates. Like normally in
(40:42):
these movies the teens aredisposable. I actually really, I
really hated Josh.
Me too.
Beginning. And it's mostlybecause that potato thing, the whole
potato thing, I don't like it,but I love it again now. And here's
why. This is what I caughtdoing. The potato thing is not what
I was going to start with.Where's the potato? What are you
saying? This, this is a momentthat will be inserted into the anals
(41:04):
of history. And you all knowhow painful that could be. When he
says anals, we cut to the onepunk kid in the class with like the
denim vest and like all thepet piercings. I'm like, why did
they cut to him? We've nevergot to him when they said anals.
Outed.
We're talking about yours,Chuck. We're talking about your anals
right now. We're gonna put itin your anal, Chuck. But I love it.
(41:26):
I love the potato momentthough because it just reminded schmucks
I went to high school withbeing like, this is technically kind
of the assignment and I'mgonna show off to the teacher and
like, I don't know, I, I lovedit. Loved all of it.
Yeah. Also this, this. One ofthe things I don't like about the
movie is that all thecharacters last names are hard movie
directors. And it's that gotreal tired real fast. Like every
(41:47):
movie did that for a while,but I'll let it go. But I do love
that even though I startedhating Josh, I love the relationship
with Josh and Monica.
Yeah, Yeah.
I like Monica a lot too. Shewas, she made the most of everything
she was in.
Yeah, I, I, I don't know. Ithink this is a newer convention
where they make teenagers andslashers too clean, too sympathetic
(42:08):
because teenagers are messyand full of hormones and doing stupid
stuff.
Yeah.
And not just like set off theplot point, evil stuff, but just
like stupid stuff. And this,they were all complex and, and dumb
in their own ways.
Even Monica had that momentwhen she's like, I don't know why
boys would talk to me off what you.
We all know why. Boys want totalk to you.
(42:30):
But. But, yeah, I felt badthat, like, when Josh shows up at
the problem with his specialmon. Little corsage for. I'm like,
she's not coming, honey. No,man, she's not coming. It was sad.
Also, I just realized, Maya,the guy who's announcing the pro,
the winner at the end,announcing Vicki is the winner is
Stan, the sister's perfectboyfriend from pen.
(42:52):
We.
Stan. Stan. He's in this moviewith a mullet.
You know, it was a rough. Itwas a rough era for hair.
He looks great at it. Becausehe's Stan. He can do no run.
Yeah, no, he's just. He's justa good guy.
Hey, Kelly, how'd you blow itwith my mouth?
(43:16):
Oh, you want some gummy? Yourbreath is great.
See, that's why I didn't likeJosh, because that was sort of making
him a, you know, predator.But, yeah, that was still.
She came in predatoringalready, though.
Yeah, he. He negotiated.
She came in with.
(43:36):
She came in. She came in withthe break in the law bid. He's like,
okay, but that $100 isn'tgoing to do it. You know, she could
have said no.
She came. She was ready, andthen she accepted the terms and spoke
how she thought the deal wasgoing to go. I. Is it a little icky?
Yes. See the Predator in thatsituation. They're both terrible.
They're both terrible. Yeah,they're both there and they're both
dead. So it's okay. Theproblem's been. So once again, the
(43:57):
problem's been solved. Thanks,Mary Lou, problem solver. Did you
also catch that when. When.When he puts in Kelly. I mean, Vicky
as the winner, when he getskilled and. And Marilyn catches him,
that. The printouts are like.The parent on the screen's like,
nope, wrong.
Dead wrong.
Wrong.
(44:18):
And then it's a story with twoO's. I was like, did you see that?
I did not see that.
It didn't happen. But in my version.
Oh, in your head.
In your head, Cannon. It said,sorry because we're in America town
in Canada.
Sorry.
And I love how, like, MaryLou's magic is that she's just enjoying
the prom. He's about to changeit. She gets, like, this psychic
notion. She just reaches overto an outlet, grabs it, zaps him,
(44:38):
and then just. Okay. Goes backto promote.
She has indeterminate powers.That. I don't care. Please continue.
That's the whole high school.It's her high school. I. Those. That
was my headcanon is especiallylike Vicki didn't break the crown.
That's not her fault. Why isVicki gonna suffer?
Like, because it'll hurt.It'll hurt Craig, which will hurt
(45:00):
Buddy. It all comes back to Buddy.
I think. I think the wholehigh school grounds.
And they all just suck. Youall just suck. All you people suck.
I'm gonna.
Everyone who sucks should die.
I'm sorry. Sorry, Monica. Youcriticize my clothes. You keep talking
to me when I'm with Craig,who's my man. So scram. You won't
scram. I say swell. Thank you.Nobody says swell anymore. Another
(45:21):
great line. Monica was toogood a friend. She had to go.
Yep.
I love when the mom gets blownto the window. That makes me really
happy.
Yeah, that was nice. That wasa little too cathartic there, huh?
Yeah, yeah, it's a greatlittle movie. Anyway, I don't have
anything else to say. I thinkit's great. Bruce Prittman, Wendy
(45:41):
Lyons, Lucas Ferreira. Welldone. Well done. It's a gem of a
little. And Ron Oliver since Iknow he's probably might be out there
listening. Hi, Ron. We love Ron.
And thanks for both of you forfinally getting me to watch this.
I'm so happy you liked it.
It's a treat. I'm going tocome back to it. I watched it on
tv so I'm excited to watch it.Get in high res and see what else
(46:04):
I get.
The blu ray is $60.
Well, yeah, it hasn't reallybeen officially released on. On Blu
Rays like on DVD a while back.So it's really a good version of.
It's not that easy to find.
All right.
Heard I. I got it done on.Shutter is fine. It's an 80s.
Okay, never mind.
I don't know how it was. It'snot anywhere it's on Amazon now,
(46:26):
but. Okay, I own it.
All right.
But it's one of those. I don'tlike 80s movies to be that high dev
anyway because the makeupfalls apart. What was I going to
say? I want to. To figure outwhat we're going to do for the next
thing, which I did. And Iforgot the director's name, so give
me a second. And. And Trae,I'm going to need your input on this
one because we have to make adecision here. One of the most prolific
(46:46):
directors that we keep comingacross on Friday the 13th of the
series, I think he directedpossibly 15, 16 episodes. Some who
haven't seen it is WilliamFruit. He directed the. The pilot
and many of the ones that havebeen one of the many of the highlight
episodes that we talked. Oneof our. Many of our favorites. So,
Trae, should we watch FuneralHome with Leslie Donaldson, who's
(47:11):
another Friday the 13th connection?
We're always talking aboutDegrees of Leslie.
Donaldson or Killer Party.
Oh, Killer Party's fun. Idon't remember Funeral Home that
well, but I remember KillerParty and it's a lot of fun.
But if we watch Funeral Home,then Patrick and I can sing Fun Home
(47:33):
the whole time.
We can do that. Also, I don'tthink Killer Parties are available,
but we will have to, you know.Hey, listeners. Listeners. Oh, yes,
listeners. Why don't you tellus. You tell us which movie you want
us to talk about. I loveFuneral Home, but it's goofy and
kind of weird and not a greatmovie. And I don't know how it got
nominated for Gemini Awards,but it did. But it figures. It figures.
(47:54):
It's one of the seminal films.And I said seminal. Of this director,
one of his most favoritefilms. And it's got our girl, Leslie
Donaldson. And Killer Party isone of the most bizarre, charming
Canadian slasher movies youcould possibly imagine. It's like.
It's like Mary Lou, but oncrack. Mary Lou did all the cocaine
you'd get. Killer Party stillcharming and cute and gay.
Vivia.
(48:14):
Because it's got what it's gotwhat's his name in it. The other
half of Mary Warrenoff andPaul Bartel. Paul Bartel. Yeah. So
listeners will leave it up toyou. So write it and let us know.
So until next time, I thinkthat's it. So, like I said, thank
you for sticking in this.Thank this weird transitional period
(48:36):
where we hope to keep youentertained through the summer until
October, which is whenhopefully, Damian Lewis will return
in its full form. And untilthen, stay safe, stay healthy and.
Oh, my God, I can't believe.Even though it's the problem, one
thing left to say. Damn you, Sam.
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