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November 23, 2025 12 mins

He ran two hours to school and two hours home because education was the only way forward. That single detail reframed everything: comfort, gratitude, discipline, even how we argue about politics. In a ride back to the airport after a keynote in Dallas, we met a driver from Ethiopia whose childhood miles turned movement into necessity and resilience into culture—and his story became a mirror for our own soft habits and hard excuses.

We dig into how scarcity can sharpen appreciation, from the joy of a simple book to the luxury of a plain cup of coffee. I share how prison taught me to act my gratitude, not talk it—to show it in the way I train, work, listen, and lead. We explore why East African runners often dominate long distance, how daily life can build endurance without a training plan, and what it means to choose hardship when your environment does not demand it. That choice—signing up for a marathon, a triathlon, or a tough personal goal—can turn a stagnant routine into a life with pull and purpose.

We also widen the lens with a grounded look at governance. The driver contrasts real dictatorships—coups, corruption, rule by force—with the messy but vital checks and balances many of us take for granted. Perspective shrinks outrage and grows agency. When you see what others endure, your opportunities feel larger, your excuses feel smaller, and your next step becomes obvious: move, build, and be grateful.

If you’ve felt stuck or numb, this conversation offers a practical path back to meaning: choose a worthy struggle, meet it with discipline, and let the work change you. If any part of this reframe hits home, follow the show, share it with a friend who needs perspective, and leave a quick review to help more people find it. What hard thing will you choose next?

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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
In order to go to school or get an education, you
have to run to school.
And he said him and these otherkids in these villages would run
to school for two hours in themorning just to get to class, go
to school all day, and then runtwo hours home.
I just want you to think aboutthat real quick.
You're probably listening tothis in this really amazing

(00:22):
country called the United Stateswith endless opportunities.
Not saying we're perfect, butit's a lot different than having
to wake up to run to class.
And I want you to think aboutthe stuff that you're currently
upset about or complaining aboutin your life.

(00:49):
Thank you for tuning in, youguys.
I'm out here in Galita,California, G Town, as we call
it.
If you're in the 805 or SantaBarbara, uh do me a favor, go
ahead and drop a comment downbelow.
Let me know who you are andwhere specifically you're tuning
in from.
Now, today I want to share withyou a pretty cool story.
Uh, this is something thathappened to me a couple months
ago when I was traveling inDallas speaking at an event.

(01:10):
Uh, I was in an Uber.
I was driving back, actually,back to the airport.
I just spoke and given a keynoteat an event to some business
owners.
And I started talking to thedriver uh in the Uber, right?
And I go, you know, we're justtalking, making small talk,
talking about life.
And he was obviously fromanother country from his accent.
Uh, he was a black guy, his namewas um um Masamba.

(01:32):
And I said, uh, where are youfrom, man?
He goes, I'm from Ethiopia.
You know, we're just talking alittle bit about life.
And I go, hey, why areEthiopians so good at running
long distance?
Like you see the Kenyan runners,the Ethiopian runners, they're
always breaking the world recordfor marathons.
And these are, dude, these guysare machines, these men and
women, right?
And he started laughing.

(01:52):
He goes, Well, you know, the waywe grow up is a lot different
than here in the States.
He had been in the United Statesfor 15 years, he has kids and he
has a family now.
And he goes, Over there, whenwhen you grow up, you're obvious
you're oftentimes living out inthe country in these different
villages, away from any majorcities.
And in order to go to school orget an education, you have to
run to school.

(02:13):
And he said him and these otherkids in these villages would run
to school for two hours in themorning just to get to class, go
to school all day, and then runtwo hours home.
I just want you to think aboutthat real quick.
You're probably listening tothis in this really amazing
country called the United Stateswith endless opportunities.

(02:35):
Not saying we're perfect, butit's a lot different than having
to wake up to run to class.
And I want you to think aboutthe stuff that you're currently
upset about or complaining aboutin your life.
And I want you to think about ifyou actually grew up out in the
country and you had to run twohours every day to go to work,
two hours every day growing upas a kid just to go to school.
Now, he said that they ran twohours every day to go to school

(02:57):
because getting educationrepresented an opportunity for
them.
It was either that or stay inthat tiny little village, do
manual labor your entire life,and then you die.
But if you got an education, youcan get a job in the city, and
maybe you can go to anothercountry and continue to expand
your career or create a betterlife for yourself.
It's very important that weunderstand how good we have it.

(03:19):
And I love looking how at howother people live throughout the
world because it really putsthings in perspective when it
comes to the opportunities weall have.
You know, a lot of people gointo their lives each and every
day, and they're just ungratefuland complaining and negative.
And, you know, there's actuallyan element of like going without
or not having as much in yourlife as other people that leads

(03:42):
you to being more grateful.
I look back on my experience ofbeing incarcerated, and it was
the most grateful I'd ever beenin my entire life.
Because when you don't have thesimple amenities and luxuries
that we have on a day-to-daybasis, you start to realize just
how fortunate you are for thethings you have.
And there's somethinginteresting that takes place in
your psychology when you haveless, when you are actually

(04:05):
struggling a little bit anddeprived, it makes you that much
more grateful for the thingsthat you do have.
You know, I remember when I wasincarcerated being so happy the
first time I was able to get abook in my cell and I could just
read.
But for the 20-something yearsbefore that, I never wanted to
read a freaking book.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'd be like, I'm not gonnasit down and read.

(04:26):
That's stupid.
Or I remember when I first wouldget like canteen or you get your
stuff, you know, um, off thecommissary and being able to
drink a cup of coffee, howgrateful I was to have that cup
of coffee.
Like it was such a luxury, itwas such a gift, you know?
And that's something that Icredit to helping me become
immensely grateful in life islike going through those times

(04:47):
where I didn't have much, goingthrough those times of immense
struggle.
There's something reallyprofound that takes place where
you start to think about all thelittle things that you do have,
and you you appreciate them morethan you can ever fathom.
So when I was talking to thisEthiopian Uber driver, and he
was telling me about growing upuh, you know, in Africa and what
it was like for him and hisfamily, and you know, how bad he

(05:08):
just wanted to come to theUnited States of America.
Uh, it was it was reallyrefreshing.
You know what I mean?
Because here you have somebodywho they just grew up in a
lifestyle where that's what youdid.
You ran to school.
And he said it was part of theirculture too.
Like a lot of times, if you'regoing somewhere, you would just
run, you would jog, like whetherit was school or I don't know,
on a holiday or a day you didn'thave school, you're you're going

(05:30):
somewhere and you're joggingwith your friends and you're
talking to them.
Um, and so it kind of puts thatstatement or that quote that you
hear a lot really inperspective.
Soft times make weak men, weakmen make hard times, and hard
times make strong men.
You know, other parts of thecountry, they have no choice but
to be strong.
Like they they have no choicebut to be strong mentally,

(05:52):
physically, spiritually.
Right now, especially indeveloped countries, something
is taking place that'sdetrimental, especially to young
men and young people.
It's that they're growing up invery soft and easy times that
don't require them to developthat grit, that strength, and
that resiliency that in pasttimes or other countries is an
absolute necessity.
You know, and people will ask mequestions about like my mindset

(06:14):
or my discipline or Sean, how doyou do this?
How do you do that?
And honestly, the truth is mylife circumstances have required
much more of me than your lifecircumstances have.
If you don't have thediscipline, if you don't have
the urgency, if you don't havethat why that burns deep in your
heart and soul, that's justgonna compel you to get up every
day and take massive action andnot waste a second, not waste a

(06:34):
day, it's because your lifecircumstances are different than
mine.
You know, for me, I really Ifelt like and thought my life
was over.
And when God gave me a secondchance and I got to get out of
prison and come home, I was sograteful, but not just grateful,
like I'm gonna tell you.
I want to show you.
I'm gonna live it out.
I'm gonna exemplify whatgratitude is in everything that

(06:55):
I do.
The way that I speak to you, theway that I listen, you know, the
energy behind these messages,the time I spend with my family,
my health, my physique, goingafter these dreams and my
business, my career, seeking tochange the lives of a million
people, grow this empire thatI'm building.
Like I want to soak up everylittle drop and every moment

(07:16):
that this life offers me.
And a lot of people, they justdon't feel that way.
And my job is to try to getthrough to you with these
messages, with these stories.
You know, I know not everymessage is gonna resonate, not
every story is gonna inspireyou.
But maybe one person listeningtoday is gonna think about that
guy in Ethiopia running toschool back and forth, and he's
gonna look at the fact that he'scomplaining about something in

(07:37):
his life and go, damn, man, whatif I was over there having to
run two hours each and every dayto work or to school?
Or like imagine growing up inthose huts without water.
Like, like people in other partsof the country, they suffer.
You don't know what sufferingtruly is.
You have no idea.
You think suffering is like whenyou don't have cell reception on
your phone.

(07:58):
Like, like suffering is like,you know, suffering to you and
other people is very different.
Um, and and so honestly, there'sno way to change people's
perspective until theyexperience it.
That's another reason it'sreally good to study other
cultures, travel if you can, um,get around different types of
people, get out, get out of yourenvironment because it opens
your mind.
And when you're open-minded andyou see things differently, it

(08:19):
can create change in your life,right?
Um, so I just want to share thatwith you guys.
I mean, another thing too islike our country's become so
political over the last decade,and social media exacerbates it,
the news exacerbates it, andeveryone's like arguing all the
time.
And I asked, uh I asked Masamba,the Ethiopian Uber driver, about
politics in Ethiopia, and helaughed.

(08:40):
And he goes, as bad as you guysthink it is over here, you guys
like say that Trump's adictator, this and that.
He goes, in Ethiopia you havereal dictators.
Uh, they come in one day, theykill everyone in the government,
and they take over for maybe ayear, maybe 10 years, and they
don't leave office until someonecomes and does the same to them.
And he goes, the government isso corrupt, you don't get into
politics unless you're willingto die or probably go to prison,

(09:03):
right?
And he's like, they just get inthe government, they steal, uh,
you know, they create all thiscorruption until this other
militia takes over and comes inwith their machetes and the
machine guns and executes them.
And that's the way it is in alot of these countries,
especially third worldcountries.
So I want you to think, and hegoes, America's great.
He goes, yeah, you have a lot ofdifferent beliefs, but you have
checks and balances.

(09:24):
He goes, and you have a systemin place that creates hopefully
fair elections, right?
And it and it creates these umthese this democracy that you
don't have in other parts of theworld.
And I thought that was reallycool to hear from somebody who
grew up in a different countrywho came here, because a lot of
times people here complain abouteverything and they're they're
mad at one party, they're mad atthis party, no one can agree on

(09:46):
anything.
Uh, and we all have to recognizewe still have it really good.
And I think that if we focus onthe good and put out positive
energy and come from a place ofgratitude and seek to understand
one another and recognize wehave more in common than we
don't, oh uh, we can stillcreate a really great life and a
really great country that'sprosperous for everyone.

(10:07):
But uh, just want to share thatwith you.
So if you're complaining abouteverything, go run two miles and
then wait a couple hours andthen uh uh two hours.
I'm sorry.
He had to run two hours each wayto school.
I don't know if I misspokeearlier.
Two hours each way to school.
So if you find yourselfcomplaining about something in
your life right now, go, imagineif I had to run two hours twice

(10:29):
a day, every single day.
Like, do I want to do that?
No.
So maybe be grateful for whatyou do have.
But honestly, if you did go outand run two hours every day,
twice a day, you'd probablybecome a more grateful person.
There's an element of sufferingand struggle that creates
gratitude that you could nothave without that experience.
So here's what I learned goingto prison, and then when I got

(10:51):
out, I realized the benefit ofsuffering.
So I replicated it.
I did endurance training.
I'd go out and run 20 miles inthe morning, I'd I'd bike ride
100 miles.
I trained to do a triathlon,then a half Iron Man, then a
full Iron Man where you swim 2.4miles, you ride 110 miles on
your bike, and then you run amarathon 26 miles.
I would do that stuff habituallybecause in the midst of

(11:14):
suffering, you create thesebreakthroughs about yourself and
about life that you can't getanywhere else.
There's something aboutsuffering that creates more
gratitude, but it also createsthe ability to see life from a
different vantage point.
So if you are somebody who feelslike life is just mediocre for
you and you're stuck, you're nothappy, you're not content,
create some moments in your lifewhere you struggle and you

(11:37):
suffer.
Set these big physical goals foryourself, especially if you're a
man.
Like, I don't know.
I coach men, I work with men, Italk to men.
I know a lot of women that doendurance training too, and they
do marathons, and some womenreally love that stuff.
But I don't know if theygravitate towards this type of
thing as much as men do.
There's something about menwhere we kind of like to suffer.
We we are stubborn, maybe wehave to go through these

(11:59):
arduous, difficult moments oflife to figure things out, at
least I did.
So if you're a man and you feelcomplacent, you're overweight,
and you're being lazy and youfeel like you're just a lesser
version of yourself, sign up foran Iron Man or a marathon or a
half marathon.
Like start training forsomething.
Give yourself a sense ofpurpose.
Go out there and suffer a littlebit, struggle.
In the midst of that sufferingand struggling, you'll find a

(12:19):
depth within yourself that couldchange your entire life.
So that's my message for youguys today.
If you're complaining, thinkabout growing up in a third
world country, having toliterally go and find water
every day to drink or run twohours every day just to go to
school to get an education toimprove your life and recognize
how good you have it.
Take advantage of theseopportunities, stop complaining

(12:40):
and never look back.
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