Interview W Personal Trainer NA

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Look… Different took a different round.
If you're cooking up, you'll betasting.
Now.
This, that season of a cloud,you got cloud.
Let me hear what it's about.
You got cloud.

(00:30):
Let me hear what it's about.
You got cloud.
Let me hear what it's about,without a doubt, this, that
season of a cloud.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
There's a lot of like .
Yo, I'm telling you, man, man.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, I got you I got them lights boy.
We got a lot of lights going onnow.
Ladies, ladies and gentlemen, Iam Thaddeus shade.
This is seasonable cloud.
I am sitting up here With afriend of mine.
There's a lot of friends I havecome through.
I'm sitting here with a friendof mine Friend of mine His name

(01:06):
is nay in a.
Nay, he owns training day.
How do you say a training day,fitness, just training day.
Every day, just training day,training day, every day, as you
see on On the gear right there.
This is personal, personalpersonality training.
Oh, you didn't catch that Ididn't catch that when you came
through the door.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, that's part of the job in real life, though.
In real life, Is it really likethat?
Explain?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
that real quick.
What is it talk to me?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
um.
So this is a.
This is actually a one-on-onesample product of my clothing
line called work clothes.
Yes and um the idea behind thislike personality trainer.
Long story short, I realized atsome point in time that One of
the things that comes withbuilding bodies is building

(01:53):
self-esteem Emotionally strength, mental strength.
It's a lot of, a lot of othercomponents that come with that,
and it also Open my eyes up tothe fact that people gravitate
towards working out and healthand wellness.
Yeah, for more than just theaesthetics.
For now, looking for six packsor the birthday butts or Binks

(02:14):
press 315 like a lot of it is anescape.
I told uh, I've told a lot ofpeople this that as a personal
trainer, you're almost like afriend for hire.
Hey, yeah for sure, I meanrespect, respectfully though,
like you know, um, and if you,you know, as a trainer, if you,
if you recognize that you know,it kind of changes the dynamic,

(02:36):
yeah, um, of the relationshipand then how you approach that
you don't, you don't feel likeOne, it should never feel like a
job.
You know, like we make a choiceto do this.
But, um, I know, sometimes, orat least I've known in the past
trainers that I've talked to orcome across, they didn't like
dealing with clients that didn'twant to come and get the work

(02:58):
done.
Hmm, Hmm which I understand,because that's what we're there
for.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Do you feel, do you feel kind of dr Filish, when you
work in somebody?
How do you feel like Definitely.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
And it's not, it's not all the time, yeah, it's,
it's literally Spurred a momentUm.
I'll never forget.
You know with you know, full Um.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I like how you tilt your head back like dr Hussable.
I never Be talking about drHussable.
We can't.
We gotta we gotta.
We gotta say bill, but we talkabout dr Hussable and how he was
positive and how you know, Iknow where that brownstone was
in real life.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
So I but but, um, yeah, like uh, I remember the
first time it happened.
You know, a client came in andI didn't know that they were
feeling some type of way.
Right, some of you like I'mprobably I don't know let's say
two, three years into being aperson training.

(03:57):
Yeah, client comes in.
You know, I got my, my planready, I know what we're doing,
got them doing exercise and youknow, I realized something was
off.
Yeah, they turned to look at meand say, hey, can we go talk?
And I'm like cool.
So you know, luckily this waslike my last person Are you
working out the?

Speaker 3 (04:16):
as you, can we go over here and talk training?
Yeah, they won't go to the sideand talk, right, and when I
kind of saw, I'm like, yeah,let's, let's go talk.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
And then it turned into an hour of Just
vulnerability, like, wow, tears,and you know, just really, like
you know what I'm saying, justa lot of whatever was pent up,
just pouring out.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
So in that moment?
Did you have the the answers,or were they just looking for
more of like an ear, or did theywant like your, your feedback,
your?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
advice it was.
It was Wanting an ear, yeah,but then also wanted feedback
too.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Damn.
Somebody just said hello fromgermany, and I do that.
I do.
I'll just randomly I don't knowwhere to hello from germany.
That's yes, it's right here.
It's 30 cameras in here right.
But yeah, they wanted yourfeedback.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
They wanted it and, um, I don't remember everything
we talked about.
I do remember that momentbecause it really stood out and
now was like it was that momentand then, literally that same
week it happened again.
Yeah, yeah, completelydifferent person really.
And this in this person.
We were like already into theworkout there, they're doing the
workout and they start having amoment.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
So the last one was before it got into it, but this
one was in it.
You in Right dribbin, y'allworking.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
The first one was like hey, you know, let's, let's
put this on pause.
Can we go step?
And when we did, we talked andthen, yeah, the next one was
like Just started, you knowventing, and I'm like we
probably should put this down.
Yeah, because you know what I'msaying.
Yeah, I know you sound a waiver, but it don't feel right.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
What's in your hands right now?
I could, it could go you know,don't let your ego you do you
think Having those personalconnections Makes you is it?
Is it make you a better trainer, or is it something that you
prefer to have, you prefer tostay away from?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Um, I've grown to really enjoy it and embrace it.
Um, I don't, I don't look forit.
You know, like I don't poke thebear and you know, question Um,
but I'm, I'm prepared for itbecause I know it can.
It's a part of the right, youknow, you know the job for like
better or this is.

(06:31):
You know it happens.
Yeah, um, and I also understandthat People are have a really
have a better understanding ofthe, their health overall and
how Doing something whether itbe a hike, going to the gym,
playing a sport, whatever thatis a way of that's therapeutic

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for sure.
You know, I'm saying that's,that's where that's their way of
venting, of letting go.
So when they have a trainer ora companion of some sort in that
realm, it makes it even easierfor them to want to gravitate
towards that, because it's likeone you have an accountability
partner just for this purposeand intent.
But then you also know thatthis person is willing to listen

(07:13):
and you find value in what theyhave to say in response to that
.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, and then it's justfinding the happy medium, like
making sure that you're lettingthem talk and not just trying to
give them answers right away.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
You know what I mean.
To get back to doing whatyou're doing exactly, it seems.
It seems like Sometimes I'veran into situations similar to
not working nightlife.
I've had people come to me innightlife and I'm when I'm
working in the club and they youcould tell that there's
something on them.
Right, you want to chat aboutit?
I look around the environment,says a pair of titties over

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there Is an ass crack rightthere at a bottle.
But we're gonna take time out,we're gonna have that
conversation and it's loud, youknow.
But people, when the momentstrikes, you know you people
want to have that conversationbecause it's heavy on them and
that's fantastic.
I got you to be there.
When those moments arise, I'malways curious like uh, um,

(08:09):
which is the age range you train?
What's the?
What's the age range?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's, it's man like I've.
I have, I know for sure onethat's 14, or maybe he's 15 now.
So like he's, like my youngest,and then I have my oldest is,
or few are, like early sixties.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Correct, all right, but hold on, I'm I'm gonna turn
your volume up.
We gonna keep going up, but Allright Too loud.
Can you hear yourself?
No, I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, so, um, so yeah , 14 being the youngest um, I've
had even younger than that andthen like 60 early sixties right
now, really Okay, yeah, soearly sixties.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, man, it's the conversation different.
Yeah, it's got.
How do you like you?
You go over, you working outwith the 14 year old and you
jump over and you go into the 60to the early sixties.
What is that?
What are the conversations likewhile you're working out and
what are the, the mental, the uh, the mentalities of the
differences between the 14 and60 in the 60?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
So everything that I just said about, um, people
wanting to to open up, yeah,it's the complete opposite with
me.
You don't know nothing.
Yeah, like they could haveliterally just got into the

(09:33):
worst altercation In their younglife right before they walked
into the gym and you would neverknow.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Really, they are stone cold the 14 year old Wow.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
They come in, they literally just like you, like
you got a.
I was gonna say something thatyou're gonna have to edit it
Because I already been messingwith.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
But you, but you really gotta Ask questions, yeah
, hey, so how, how, how schoolyou know are you?
Are you liking this school?
Yeah, that's fine.
That's it.
That's all you get.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Do you use your questions sometimes to like Help
, help them get through the setthat they're doing?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Um Nothing.
14 year olds no, they don'tneed to go straight stone, they
just go.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
What about when you get into the the, the lady
that's in her, uh?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
early sixties.
So like the older the, my olderpopulation um older populate
Okay.
All right, they don't governor,governor nay, you know, I'm
saying the older demographic,right?
Oh, they it's more of Notasking questions not to distract

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them, but more encouragement.
Yeah, you know what I mean andthat that's really what it is.
But the thing that I really andI tell them this all the time,
the thing that I appreciateabout them and I know that To
some degree it's, it'smotivating for them, as I tell
them that they inspire mebecause they got 20 something
years with me.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, so I'm like yeah, and they're, they're
working out and pushing throughexactly.
And then the things that I givethem like.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I know that it's challenging.
I know what I'm asking them todo, or what I'm asking them to
ask their bodies to do, right atthis age.
And you know, we, man, you, wegrew up around the same era.
Yeah, 60, 50 looked different,different, real different when
we was 14 and 10, and you knowwhat I'm saying like 50, 35

(11:36):
looked weird for sure.
Yeah, man you oh, and you meantthat because, it's like you
uncle, my uncle, my uncle ain'tdoing too.
It's like when, if you had auncle in his 30s, right in the
80s or the 90s, he probablydidn't make the 30s look
promising for any of us.

(11:58):
None of them did right.
And then we ain't talking aboutjail, we ain't talking about no
criminal, it's just life.
Yeah, yeah, you my now watch youand I watch what you eat, I
watch what you drink, smoke,yeah, so I see them and I'm like
this is inspiring.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it Not that I didn't havehope or belief, but it I guess

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with not I don't have a desireto be 50, 60 yet Like I want to
enjoy life right now, for sure,but I am curious to see what
that looks like, especially withwhat I do like I'm very like.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, I'm interested too, so I'm hoping I'm around
when I see it.
If you still gonna you lookbecause you wear you, don't I
take that back man, when Iworked out what you did where
the um, the Baywatch shirts.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
You know I'm saying never the unnecessary
unnecessary store outfits youknow what?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
they don't, they wear they, just they.
That's the basis what I'msaying.
You come to the gym, you walkin.
You was praying baby all onyourself.
I'm y'all ready to do this.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I've never, but uh.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Your journey in the fitness right.
Uh, what got you into the, thepersonal training, what made you
get into it?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
The short story is I had a stroke.
I had a stroke, really had astroke.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Didn't know I had it.
It happened you didn't know youhad a stroke, Well is it
possible?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
it is because the stroke that I had is called a
tia I forgot what that standsfor and tia, so they consider a
mini stroke, but it's still astroke, right, and so I didn't
have the.
You know, one side of your bodyjust shuts down and you fall
and right it literally.
It happened in like smallstages, right like I was.

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I was, so I had a regular jobthis time, um, and we had a
meeting, I'd say regularly.
Job, respectfully, was likenice.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Somebody we got down to file right now.
Turn this shit off right now.
I'm saying my car, my shitregular, I keep my lights on
with this bitch.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I say that just because, like, personal training
is like you know, it'sdifferent, it's like you know.
But at the time I was workingin the office and and finance
and doing things like that, andwe had a meeting.
We had a meeting and so beforeGoing to the meeting, um, I had
to use the bathroom.
I go on, the go in the stall,yeah, um, I, I goes in the store

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, I goes, I like that, right, mygod right.
I teach you how to work out,but I don't teach you how to
talk and tell you I go, I go inthere and we find out where I
love it, I love it, I love it.
But I but I go in the stall andI close it.
You know, I'm standing thereand all of a sudden the vents

(14:49):
yeah, got real loud.
Oh, wow, like it it.
It was almost like if theseheadphones Were plugged into the
ventilation system and I canhear it right here.
That's insane and I was likewhat?
You know I'm in, you know I'min the bathroom on myself trying
to figure this out.
So I come out and, um, I'm likewhat was that?

(15:12):
That's insane, right.
And you know you sound like itwas right there inside your head
.
It's loud, it's got real loud.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Wow, that's crazy, I walked out, washed my hands.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I leave um Hank, one of my co-workers, the oldie
gentleman from new york, bignicks fan, and um Walks out
there.
Hank sees me.
I'm approaching the meeting.
Hank says hey, did you see thegame last night?
What did you think?
What do you think about ournicks?
And I'm?
And I proceeded to respond yeah, and as I'm trying to speak to

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him, I'm running out of words.
Oh wow, you can understand.
Yeah, I'm, I'm, as I'm talkingto you.
Imagine I'm talking andeverything that I'm saying
starts to fade.
Like you know, I'm explainingmyself Like fading of black,
like just like it's like like mymouth was getting tired.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Maybe no, okay, I got you, I got you.
You know, it's like I.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I would just, oh yeah , I said, and it was like whoa,
what the what?
Was that Right?
And so luckily it was a crowdbecause we had a meeting and so
the meeting was about to start.
So I don't know if Hank caughton and I'm not saying that he
didn't because he's older, I'msaying that because I'm saying

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that because it was.
You know, we had to get rolling, so now Didn't pay attention to
nothing in the meeting becauseI'm trying to figure out what
happened, what's going on.
Mind you, I got to get back andand speak to people for the
rest of the day, so eventuallythat went away, but then I just
my, my, my tongue felt Twice thesize like it, just like a
slurred.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, for sure, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Right, and then um, how old are you at the time?
29?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
29.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Damn, yeah, exactly.
So that's crazy.
So, um, I get home and you knowI'm Telling my wife like oh my
god, like yo, like I don't knowwhat's going on, that she's like
oh yeah, I hear it Like why doyou sound like that?
I'm like I don't know she cantell you sounded, because I'm
explain as I'm explaining that,she starts to listen.

(17:12):
So she's like oh, why do yousound like?
I don't know, maybe it's thecough syrup.
So the reason why I say it'sthe cough syrup the night before
I felt like I was coming downwith something.
I took a dose of robo-tussinwhatever we had in the house and
I'm thinking maybe it's expired.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Robo-tussin.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, you listen, man the tussin.
Huh the tussin.
Maybe it was tussin, maybe itwas a night quilt.
You don't know, but whatever itwas, I took that and so when I'm
trying to figure out what'swrong, I'm thinking was it
expired?
Is this a symptom of that?
I never went to check, I justwent to bed, woke up the next
day.
The other thing that I noticed,like I said, it came in stages.

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It was the loud sound, then thespeech.
Then the next thing I noticedwas my hand, my left hand.
It was hard to grip.
It felt really weak.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I can only imagine what that is it's?
Weird.
It's a little bit of panic.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm sure it drenched over you is a lot of panic and
the thing is everything was justso subtle Like I could still
speak, but it just sounded andfelt different.
I could still use my left hand,but it was just limited.
That's wild, so I proceeded togo to work.
Go to work Hour.
Later we have another meeting.
Go to the meeting.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
You still went to work, feeling the way you was
and the things that washappening, and you're okay.
You still went to work.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
The next day.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
So that's us, because black folks don't like to.
It could be real problems.
And we don't like to.
We don't like to go to thehospital.
We'll do everything to avoidthat.
Yeah Well, yeah, exactly, it'sgot to be extreme extreme for us
to be like you know what man.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
let me go ahead and see what's going on and the
other thing is, at the time, thereason why I didn't even think
to be precautious and maybesomething's wrong is like my
youngest son was just born fivemonths prior.
But then what's?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
your youngest son's name.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Oh, I call him gummy bear.
Huh, I call him gummy bear.
Who Gummy bear that's?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
my Gummy bear.
That's his nickname.
That's his nickname.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
You think he going to like that as he get older?
We going to find out.
We going to find out.
We going to be with this girl.
Hey, gummy, real quick, comehere.
He going to be ready to squirt.
Is that her?
Is that her?
Yeah, oh, you got to dosomething.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
That the older man I can't be with nobody named gummy
.
I can't Gummy bear.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
But so when my wife was pregnant with him, she got
in a car accident, oh wow, andso she had to step away from
work.
So she was out of work for likeover a year.
So I was, like you know,holding it down so for me to
take a day off.
I just felt like you couldn'tdo it.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Even though I would have got compensated, but I was
still just.
Like.
You know, I just got this newjob.
Yeah, I'd only been there, Ithink, at this time.
I got in May, started in May.
Yeah, october is when this allhappened, october 30th, so the
whole bathroom experiencehappened on the 30th, oh shit.
So I had the stroke on the 30th, yeah, but I didn't find out

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until Halloween.
Oh wow, crazy, right.
So every Halloween is weird forme.
Luckily, I got kids to taketrick or treating, so yeah, Do
you ever feel like somethinghappening on the?
Halloween.
You don't be.
I just know it's a little weird, you don't?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
wiggle it out or nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
You know, a few years ago, the 30th and the 31st was
weird.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Really.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Especially the 30th, because it's like it's just a
regular day, but it's not.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
So, yeah, like I go in the next, yeah, I go with
that, that's cool, florals,right, I go.
So I go having me and I get tothe me and have this explosive
headache, yeah, like I never hadmy green style, never had a
headache like this in my life.
Okay, and we had a doctor and anurse on site ago with me to

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check my blood pressure.
Blood pressure sky high.
I'm like whoa.
So they said you got to go tourgent care.
Damn, I'm like, okay, soundslike bad advice if it's that bad
.
But cool, I'm a goat, right,right, so I go to urgent care.
They check me.
They're like you need to go toER.
This was a waste of time.
I could have been gone by nowright.
Whatever this is could have tookme.
I go to ER, we there, they runvitals and all of that stuff,

(21:41):
and then I think when theyadmitted me, or right before
they admitted me, they told mewhat happened.
Well, maybe they told my wife.
I don't remember how the newscame out, but you know, in the
moment you know, I say, yeah,the TIA we could have considered
a mini stroke.
I'm like, oh okay, they justcasually told you.

(22:02):
It wasn't casual, but when theyI casually, I took it casually.
I just like, okay, oh how doyou take?
That casual.
That's because it's the stroke.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Right.
But, I did a few things in life.
We don't take casually, but Ididn't know you don't go.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I did not know.
I've never done this before youjust been shot.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
You like, yeah, I have just been shot.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
But I didn't, you know, I never there's a bear
biting you.
It is a bear.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
It is a bear, it is different.
Go ahead, I got you bro.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
So, um, so they, so they.
You know I didn't.
This is when it hit me thatthis is real.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
As you know, I'm from New York.
My my family's out there inBrooklyn.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Because you say smoothie, you don't say smoothie
, you say smoothie.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'll say liquid drink you be like a blend, would you
like a blend?
Would you like a blend?
Um, so, like I said, they, they, they told me I'm like okay,
cool, I got to stay here, theygot to run tests.
It didn't hit me that this wasserious until either that same

(23:13):
night or next morning.
I would say maybe the nextmorning.
Yeah, you had to be nextmorning.
My mom was here.
Really, my mom lives inBrooklyn.
Yeah, I just got admitted on31st.
My mom was here on the 1st ofNovember.
What, what are you doing?
Oh, wait a minute.
This is this, is it?
I'm going.
I'm going.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
You thought you was really going, but you was like
you have them thoughts.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I probably you know what I'm saying.
Like it's like something'swrong because you're not
supposed to be here.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, yeah, once they start flying in, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
You come here in May and October.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
And I know October was yesterday, but that time
passed.
We make jokes.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
But the worst thing I see is landing the hospital bed
Exactly, and then my mom, mybrother's coming in and then,
all of a sudden, a pastor Idon't know coming in.
I'm like, well, you know, getthis nigga out of here.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
You know where this is going.
I'm like it's November 1st,thank you, I'm in three weeks.
You got to get ready.
Why are you here?
Right, you got to go big mama,get the stuff together and so.
But, all jokes aside, I reallyfelt like I just didn't
understand it.
I just didn't understand thecapacity of what happened, right
?
And so I'm just like, and thenmom shows up and I'm like, oh
okay, this is real.

(24:27):
You know, usually when yourparents show up unexpected to
places, as a child you're introuble for sure.
You ain't supposed to be here,right?
The fact that you didn't meanwe go home and I'm, and I'm
going to get it, yeah, but thiswas different.
It's like whole different sideof the fence.
So I'm like, okay, definitely.
And then, yeah, so to answeryour question, because this it's
a long explanation, but it'scool man, you know what I'm

(24:50):
saying it just brings everythingto life.
So after that it was just a lotof neurological visits, primary
care visits.
I never forget.
The doctor told me two thingsthat stuck with me that I did
that.
I was just like I'm not feeling.
That One was because you had astroke, you're prone to have

(25:13):
another one.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Get the fuck out of here, right?
He told you, if you had one,you're going to have another.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, not that you're going to, but you're prone to,
you're more susceptible tohaving one than not.
I got a heart attack.
You have a heart attack, so nowyou're hard to low vulnerable.
Yeah, you're at higher risk now.
The other thing was they had meon three different medications.
They had me on the bloodpressure medicine, they had me
on a blood thinner and they hadme on a painkiller and he said

(25:41):
you're probably going to be onthese for the rest of your life.
Now I'm 29.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
And I'm like they had your blood finish too.
Yeah, yeah, I've been on them.
Was it a kumadin?
I?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
don't remember the name.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I remember the center I'll never forget, kumadin,
because I had the blood clots.
I had three of them you need totell me about that and I had.
I had, yeah, I had threemassive ones in there and they
had to get those motherfuckersunder control.
That kumadin shit, that bloodthinner shit yeah, that ain't.
Yeah, I didn't like that.
I would bump into a wall andI'm dark in the month Like this

(26:11):
is.
This is struck match shit overhere.
You know what I'm saying.
This is midnight times two overhere and I would bump into a
wall and I would bruise up.
Let's circle back.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Let's talk about you just call yourself a struck
match, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
A struck match, just a struck match.
Stay at that over here.
Oh did it.
Oh shit, we got this over here,though.
Is that recording?
Hopefully we can.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
No, we still good over here, though that bad boy
still running, so you good to go, um so, yeah, uh, they told me
that I'm like, so then I hadthis, so then I had this.
Thought, you know, and we justtalked about this with the old,
old uncles and what they lookedlike at 30 and 40.
Right, so I remember six yearsold, seven years old, mad ass.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
What was like your, your frame at the time, your
weight?
I was so at this, did you feelhealthy at the time?
Yeah, when you had stroke andeverything Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I was still playing basketball, like every day.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Like I was.
I was probably three or fouryears out of actually
competitive, competitive.
Oh so you, yeah, you weredefinitely still in shape and
you know I played to my profootball couple of seasons and
you know I was, you know,pursuing opportunities.
You can brag right now.
That's nice Crazy.
I wasn't.

(27:25):
The money is not, at least itwasn't back then.
Right Little to nothing more,nothing than little.
You were doing what?
you wanted to do you know whatI'm saying, but I was hooping, I
was playing ball every day,working out, going tryouts and
this and that.
So I was probably two to threeyears from that, but still
actively hooping, playing eightleagues.

(27:46):
So I was, and that was.
The other thing is they wererunning so many tests on me
because they were trying to finda answer.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Cause it doesn't make sense your age and your health.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, they couldn't tell me anything.
They couldn't say Were youstressed at the time, that's
what I bawled it down to Okay.
Okay, I was Gotcha, but themnot.
You know, when you go on asituation like that and they
can't give you a cause, you haveno direction at that point in

(28:20):
the sense, so you can't tell.
They went as far as having mesign a form to give them
permission to run an AIDS or anHIV test, really, because they
were trying to find something.
You know what I mean, whichkind of it's.
Like you, let's just say thatwas.
Let's say it came back Right,right, that I was positive,

(28:44):
positive.
You're just going to leave mewith that.
Yes, right, you know what Imean.
Yeah, you know I had a lot ofthoughts afterwards about the
whole thing, just like you knowthe fact that you ran that many
tests.
It sounds like healthcare isscary.
It is, it is.
And now I want to sayIntimidating, right, I mean, I

(29:05):
had a lot of really goodhealthcare professionals out
there, so I would neverdiscredit the whole industry,
right.
But then there are someapproaches that are not, you
know, not as kind to us mentallyand emotionally, because we
don't know how to navigatethrough the books you're telling
us.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
So how?
So when you, you got your, youknow your test and you're going
through the test and you gotyour, you know you had your
stroke and they telling you thatyou might be prone to some more
, with all that coming at youand all that knowledge, what is?
What was your next step?
What was your mental?
Like you figured like, hey, I'mgoing to, I guess I like to

(29:45):
have a lot of pills to take, youknow, and really no direction
to, to, to prevent, potentiallyoutside of them as in, to
pretend to prevent somethinglike that happening again.
So what was your?
What was your mental and yourmoves?
Your next, your next steps?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I went and followed the doctor's
instructions.
I'm going to Neural is justlike you know, two, three, four
times a month, getting you know.
Oh, I'm so like, oh, so yeah.
So he said I'm like, what arewe doing now?
What is it Commercial break?

(30:20):
I don't know.
So I followed the doctor'sorders.
I, you know, proceeded to takethe medicine as as instructed.
Yep.
So I had appointments, you knowand.
But I had headaches.
The headache that I had thedate that I got admitted would
come back, and so that's wherethe painkiller played its role.

(30:43):
So the way it went, I went backto work.
Eventually, I think I was outfor like maybe like two, three.
I just got this job.
So I didn't, I couldn't takeleave the absence, nothing.
They was, they was trying tolet me go.
They was like listen, dog, youjust got here like four, five
months ago.
I'm like that ain't long enough.
You see, I'm committed.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I've been here Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I didn't just make this up.
Yeah, this is real, but theywith their rules or whatever, I
didn't.
I wasn't there long enough toget paid leave and all that, so
I literally had to go back LikeI was.
I was, I think I was admitted.
I was admitted on Halloween andI was released November 2nd or
3rd and I had to go back likesometime before Thanksgiving,

(31:26):
wow.
So so I didn't really have alot of time to get it, adjust
and get it together.
Right, none of that.
So with the headaches, how Iwent back to work, had these
headaches, where it was the samething every single day.
It would start real mild and itwould just build.
It was like a real slow buildand it would just hit that

(31:51):
climax and it was just Just allheaded, it wouldn't know.
Like you know, my granny's talkabout sensitive to light and
just Straight heading straightand it would build, build, build
, hit that climax, stay thereand just persist until bedtime,
until the next day, and I wouldtake the painkiller.
It would kind of ease it, butjust it wasn't so.
So eventually, what I starteddoing was I started taking the

(32:16):
painkiller when I felt theinitial build up to shot a Stop
it.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, get ahead of it .

Speaker 2 (32:23):
And, and, and it started to work.
What's?
Up painkillers, I can't evenremember man.
Thanks, oh wow.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
That's what we're doing Keep going, keep going,
keep going.
My bad.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh, so I did that.
It worked, but then I noticedthat it stopped working because
I started building tolerance.
But also, they would get mehigh.
You know they would have me.
So I'm in there trying tofunction around people and keep
this you know what I'm saying?
Right, because they have kids.
So that was really it.
They were חuden my um.
My alternative for that wasdrink, energy drink.

(32:59):
Do what?
Drink, energy drink.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
You would hit energy drink on top of the on top of
the pain killer, you was poppingan energy drink, okay, so the
story the story about to getreal good about take a turn.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
This is where I said I'm not doing this, no more,
okay, started building tolerancefor that, right.
So then I started I was, I'mtiming was off, whatever.
So one day I was frustrated, Ifelt incoming, and so what I did
was I took my, my, my painkiller yeah, maybe two, maybe

(33:30):
one, oh, and I chugged throughthe energy drink and I take it
all at the same time.
Oh, this was like 12 o'clock.
I didn't get off till seven, 30.
Yeah, so this all hit withinlike that comes rushing in
minutes, right, um, and and Irealized I said, okay, if I take

(33:53):
the medicine, the reason why Istarted taking any drink and
energy drink is I take themedicine.
It really brought me down forsure, like so, and I'm like I
got a job and life drink Iwasn't even drinking energy
drinks like that.
I was familiar with them becauseI you know I would try this,
try that.
So I knew what I liked anddidn't like if I had one.
But I wasn't an energy drinkerlike that.

(34:13):
I didn't drink coffee, you know, it wasn't my thing.
So I had the energy drink andguess what it was?
Remember the NOS?
Oh yeah, the blue orange can.
And you know, when energydrinks first come out, they are
at its highest potency.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, there's no regulation, they just, they just
hit in the deck, you know thecan probably said patent pending
, that's what you know.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
You in trouble when the patent is still pending.
So I said, okay, I got to makesure that I don't get down to
whatever.
So, like I said, took themedicine, chugged the energy
drink.
The NOS is what?
24 ounce, I'm like crazy,chugged it.
Let me tell you something.
What's my man name in the moviewhen he sunk into the couch,

(34:58):
when Lady hypnotized him withthe teacup?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Oh, get out, Get out.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I was him before him.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
You were sucking the couch, I was in there.
That combination is crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I had a seat, my own little desk area.
My seat back of the seat washere.
Yeah, I was here At work.
Yes, I was here.
I was like this for two reasonsOne because I had to.
The other reason was I felt Ifelt safe, Like I felt like I

(35:28):
got to stay down here because Idon't know what's happening.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
My heart was like that combination, my heart felt.
You ever felt like thatbusiness.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
My heart felt bigger than life.
My heart felt bigger than lifeat that time.
That's wild and I said I can'tdo nothing.
I missed my break, my lunch, Iwas just sick.
I wasn't even hungry because Iwas so scared and I had never
felt like that.
And as I'm sitting here, I'mlike you know what?
I can't do this no more.
So that's when I started toread and research and started

(36:03):
making what were you reading andresearching?
First?
It started with just strokestuff like how to prevent it,
and that's where I started todiscover the cause, like I came
to the terms that it was juststress.
It was literally just me,overwhelmed with life, putting
pressure on myself.
It wasn't really nobody toblame, it wasn't nothing going

(36:24):
on, it was just me not happywith where I was at that time.
For sure I understand that andjust being buried in it.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I definitely understand that.
I know what you're talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
So that's what I was dealing with and that's why that
happened, and I just decided to, you know, take it upon myself
to one get off the.
My first mission was to get offmedicine.
Got you, my mom worked in amedical field for 30 years or so
, oh wow.
And I remember her telling mehow it's bad for people to take

(36:57):
themselves off medication, thatthey need to consult the doctor
and follow the doctor'sinstructions, and I could, you
know, recall that, as I'm makingthis decision, I said you just
going to go against moms likethat?
And I remember my mom wasworried.
She, you know, like I'm notgoing back there, I'm not doing
them on neurology appointmentsand this, and that they're not
helping.
They weren't doing anything butjust collecting on the

(37:19):
insurance.
Right, yeah, at that point it'slike we can't really help this
guy.
Take this insurance.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Brain surgery Like what do you want to do?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Like it's not what we could do for you.
We're going to be scribing you,so, um, yeah, I just I changed
how I ate.
I even changed how I worked out, Like I started working out
more because I even as abasketball player, I wasn't in a
gym like that Left in and morerunning up and down the floor
and I stretched.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
I did push a stretch what you want them cats to be
stretching before you.
Yeah, man, I go out there coldturkey, I'm a bad motherfucker.
Listen cold turkey nostretching.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Kg and Vince yeah, they said that stretching was
one of the things that gave themtheir longevity.
When I heard that, I KG and who?

Speaker 3 (38:04):
And Vince Carter and Vince Carter and we see how they
looked at the end of the end oftheir careers.
Got you Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
But I still got it, he still got it.
He still be booming, yeah, um,but yeah, like I, you know,
stretch calisthenics, like thatwas my thing.
But then, once you know, Idecided, you know I want to
think short for everything.
So I was, you know, changinghow I ate, shopping different,
like I do nutrition specialistsalong with personal trainer, so
like I put together meal plansand stuff for my clients.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
For yourself.
Oh go, I'm sorry, keep going.
I thought you're going to savefor yourself, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I do it for my clients, so my my meal guide I
like to call it a grocery list.
I've made this I've had it nowfor like over 10 years or less
than 10 years where I puttogether like things not to buy,
things to consider, to kind ofgive people a scope of how to
shop.
Like you don't have to buywhat's on this list, but it just
gives you direction what tolook for and what to avoid.

(39:03):
What it looked like at 29 and 30, when I was, you know, finding
my way through this andnavigating through my own health
battles.
It's completely different,because I never stopped learning
.
I never stopped looking forinformation, even till this day,
you know.
I'm just always experiment.
I'm always a guinea pig.
So that's what got me to whereI'm at today is having my own
experience and just saying I'mgoing to take ownership, like I

(39:26):
can't put it in the hands ofpeople who really don't know
what I'm feeling.
Yeah, and that's hard for peopleto do because it's a big leap.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
It's scary, especially when you don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Like I said when they told me I had a stroke, I would
have real kind of nudge andlawn, because I'm just like all
right.
So what are we doing?
Yeah, it was, it was.
My wife was like you don't wantto tell nobody, like no, I
ain't gonna tell them, you knowwhat.
I'm saying, yeah, we got in andI got this.
And then, you know, a day goesby, you sure?
And when she kept asking methat again, you know mom is here

(39:58):
You're asking me, do I want totell people, is it a wrap?
Like, are we trying to tell,like, hey, because you ain't got
that much time left, I don'twant to be alone?
When I got to tell your friends, for sure you took off.
Right.
Right, that's that my thinking,though, but I was all right,
fine, and she, you know, wastelling people flood day,

(40:19):
talking people's coming up withmagazines and flowers.
It was like y'all need to chill.
I'm good, I'm alive, man, theytold me I got 24 to 48 hours you
fucking around with people toget out.
I'm not, you know what I'msaying.
I'm gonna be back, but Iappreciated that.

(40:42):
You know what I'm saying, likeeverybody you know, show love
and whatever, but you go intothe finding out how to cook for
yourself.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah so that was fun.
Did you challenge?
Did you look and challenge yourown diagram, what you was the
research you were seeing?
Look at how you've been eating.
Did you feel like there weresome similarities?
You like now I'm eating likeshit versus one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, got you?
Yeah, I was definitely not.
I wasn't eating the worst inthe world, but I was in the.
I was I was eating fast food.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Yeah, and I always, I always ask it seems like I
don't mean to cut you off.
I apologize.
It's like, um, it usually takessome time, it usually takes
something heavy right For peopleto adjust things right and you
had something heavy happening toyou you wanted to adjust.
Now look, as I look around theroom, I got visions in here he

(41:35):
doing, he doing this, jj Abramsright now.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I look around the room.
There's just three in hereright now.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Right Food though?
Yeah, food.
I say it with a lot of passion,out of love, because it's hard
to shift your eating it is.
It is, listen, I call myself aheavyweight vegan, all right.
There are moments that I lookover there.

(42:00):
I go to any store and I see ayellow bag.
I see an oval shaped littlecreature on there, a little
animation character, and I saythere's a peanut M&Ms.
I said they calling me.
They say, shade, get you a bag,maybe it's cool.
It's hard to change your eatinghabits, yeah, but I think for

(42:27):
life and living and breathingand enjoying, you had little
ones.
You know, the change might havebeen easier, but was it?
Was it change?
No, the change.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
No, whoa, I don't want to say it was easier, it
was like it wasn't a lot ofthought put into it, and what I
mean by that is I wasn'tstruggling with the idea of
doing better, because I was.

(43:02):
I had never tried any of thisbefore, and even in the
beginning I didn't cut out a lotof things, a lot of things that
I've even cut out up until thispoint, because it was a lot
that I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
So I cut out a lot, but then there was a lot left
that I needed to adjust thateventually, excuse me that
eventually I discovered later on, just like I said, continue
continuing to study, research,read all of these different
things.
But even having something likethat happened and I'm saying

(43:41):
this just because I knowfirsthand with people in my life
and people who I've talked to,who have friends and family and
whatnot in their life, evensomething as serious as that,
like what happened to me, isserious, but I'm aware of other

(44:04):
circumstances that were way, wayworse and they still don't want
to cross over.
They still don't want to likefully commit because of what you
said.
Right, you know there's a lotof things that could be said as
to why fear or unfamiliarity,it's like a lot you really don't

(44:29):
know.
It's like what is it about youthat makes it so hard for you to
let this go after you just wentthrough that?
Right, right, right, you knowthat smoke cigarettes and then
told as bad for you.
You know, you, a Beverly Hillscop, cigarette truck away from a

(44:50):
hole in your neck.
You know what I'm saying,because that's how many you
smoke a year.
If you have another year, likelast year, the year after that
you had a hole in your neck andthey're like, I'll get fun.
Yeah, I mean, I made it thisfar, I could go another year,
and not only that, but y'alltold me that two years ago.

(45:11):
Right, I'm still here, I'm good.
I still got my whole neck andI'm still got my whole neck.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I still got my whole neck.
You ain't talking about.
You ain't talking about.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I ain't got that Woody Woodpecker, yet I'm good
Ain't.
No, I'm good, no people, so nopeople.
It's.
It's really up to the person.
Man, like I could say firsthand for me, I just didn't like
being 29 and told that this isgoing to have, this could happen

(45:45):
, and this is your new life typeof conversation.
Like you know what I mean.
You know, if you, I was kind ofpissed off.
Like you ain't about to tell mewe're not doing that.
Uh, I've had a lot ofconversations so like that.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Yes, it's a fucking challenge and that's one of the
things that I think a lot ofpeople deal with or battle with.
But I do want to ask youtraining, some training
questions, yeah yeah, go ahead,go ahead.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
And you keep asking me about this story, man,
because I know it's cool, man, Isee it.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Once I see you sit back, I say oh, yeah, yeah, yeah
, listen, I know, I know, man,we can't talk about.
We can't talk about BC, right,but we can talk about.
We can talk about the Cosmos,right, the show, listen, there's
an episode on there.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
We can't talk about BC.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
We can't talk about BC, but we can talk about the
show.
Do you remember I don't know ifyou probably do did you watch
the?

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Huxables, yeah, but I don't remember the episode.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
It was an episode where they were all the family.
They were talking about how DrHuxable once you see his eyes
roll back into the back of hishead he's about to tell a story.
It was hilarious.
Everybody was hit to it andevery time they would come in
and they would ask him aquestion, he would sit back, fix
his pants a little bit and hiseyes were rolling back.

(47:15):
Once I see you do that, I saywe in for a story.
Everybody buckle up.
We about to get the truth.
Right now.
We about to get the real man.
Listen.
So training you've been aperson trained for how long?

Speaker 2 (47:27):
I was 10, almost 10 years, almost 10 years.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
I'm going to get into some of these.
Do people need to work out with?
What do they call them?
What do they call them?
Visions man, the bands.
They need to work out with thebands.
Is that something that peopleneed when they're working out
the resistance, the resistancebands?
Yeah, is that?
Is that an effect of?
I had seen another trainer andhe was posting about here and he

(47:57):
was telling you know, ladies,that you don't need to work out
with a resistance band, youdon't need that at all, it
doesn't do anything for you.
Is that what you is, that youfeel like that's something
that's true?
Do you work out with them?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
So yeah, I've used them.
I've used them personally.
One thing that I don't like,that I don't say I don't like
the one thing that I don't do isI don't give anybody an
exercise or an apparatus orwhatever that I haven't done
myself.
So to answer your questionpurpose and intent, why are you

(48:37):
doing it?

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Explain them.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah.
So if you, if you decide to doan exercise or use a piece of
equipment or whatever and thisis just generally speaking you
know, even with the bands, whatis your goal and then, with that
in mind, how are you using itto achieve that?
So I've heard this on a podcast, what I thought was one of the

(49:02):
one of the coolest things thatwas ever said in the fitness
realm conversation wise, Okay,there's no such thing as a bad
exercise, oh wow.
But an exercise can be bad fora person oh wow, because it's
it's all.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
That's Yoda based Yoda.
With a six pack, seven foot inthe gym training motherfuckers,
that's a Yoda.
That's the Yoda shit.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
And it's real, because you know, if we are,
we're watching a podcast, we'rewatching a YouTube video or
whatever, and someone is sayingdon't do this, because this is
what happens, this is a badexercise.
It can cause this.
You know, that's like sayingeverybody stay away from gluten,
kind of right, like we alldon't have gluten intolerance.

(49:51):
You know, maybe we need toscale back on a little bit for
whatever reason, but everybodyis not affected the same way by
every exercise.
Right, right and yes.
So if you know that thisexercise can potentially be
harmful, but you know that thereare people doing this

(50:12):
successfully and they'rebenefiting from it, then to say
that it's a bad exercise is likekind of wrong, kind of
incorrect.
Now, you can do things wrong.
Right, a lot of people do stuff.
You know.
It's like, I know what you'retrying to do, but that's not how
you do it, right, that's acompletely different Right.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
So with the resistance bands, I just, you
know, just like with any otherdevice, it just all depends on
what you, what you're using itfor.
You know, I don't want to saythat it's don't use it because
it doesn't serve a purpose.
I don't know why you're doingit.
Right.
I don't know if you, just youknow, some people have
weaknesses and limitations inarea and they really need to
quit emphasis on that area forthe sake of their performance,

(50:56):
their development, just doing anexercise correctly, preventing
injury who knows what it is.
So maybe they're doing thebands because they want to
really strengthen their hips andthey're trying to do every
single hip strengtheningexercise that they can find
because they're they're justthey're down for the tide of
having weak hips you know what Imean.
And so for them that could bepurposeful.

(51:17):
You sit on your couch and you'relike, you know, I don't want to
just sit here, I just want toknock these out, right, right,
no exercise today, but I need.
I know that my hips is weak andI had a hip replacement or I'm
prone to have one if I don't getthis together.
So I'm down to do any hipexercise.
I'm going to do a thousand ofthese a week, but then I'm going
to still do my lunges and stilldo my stretches, exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
So the craze for moving towardsthe like, it's not crazy.
It's here, society, it's in it,we, we swim in it.
It is the, the women wantingthe butt.
They want to get the.
They want to get the, the, theAstox right.
You know I call this buttocks,I put the Astox with us.
It's the Astox and they want toget it correct.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
They want to get it fantastic.
You know Astox.
You just say to me what is it?
Astox is like the adult versionof TikTok.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Astox, that's what I'm talking about.
You better go and don't evenworry about it, patton.
Patton, you know what I'msaying.
I'm going to get it done.
You ain't going to steal it,you're my guy.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
No, I'm on Astox.
What I'm on Astox, this iseverybody just showing their ass
.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
I've seen your lady on there too.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
And your mama.
You better be happy.
You should not be happy aboutthat.
You probably shouldn't downloadit.
I know to me people on therethat you know that's your
failure and you ain't gonna.
You ain't gonna have a goodtime.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
What is the most effective for you know, when it
comes to women, what is the mosteffective exercise for women to
get their buttocks right?
What do you think that theyshould do, and how often you
feel like?
I know there's a ton ofmachines.
Think about the most basic gymin the world right, just the

(52:52):
apartment complex gym.
You know they deep in the hoodthere's bullets and dogs and
beer and all they got they theapartment gym in there.
You know they probably ain'tgot a lot.
This is the most basic exercisethey could do to really give
them some, some, some, somemuscle back there.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I mean, I'm a lift.
Squats, you said basic, likeyou know and I say that
respectfully like squats is,like you know, top one or number
one or top three of, like lowerbody exercises.
Like you can't go wrong withsquat.
There's different variations ofsquats.
Everything doesn't have to beweight on your back.
There's different variations ofit.

(53:32):
But I would say the squat,squat, how you do it, how heavy
you do it, that matters too.
You know the type of squats youdo, the weight of the squat,
the range of motion you know.
Are you, are you going 45?
Are you going, you know, allthe way down?
There's a lot of critiquingcrit or conversation around how

(53:59):
low you need to go for yoursquat to be effective.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Yeah, is there a level you know that you're not
supposed to go?
Is there a level you post tostay at?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Again, that goes back to what I said we had an
example here I have.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
This is this is Tanya right here.
Hello, tanya, tanya is going tobe the one I show y'all
attitude to squat, I'm a goahead.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I ain't got nobody.
That's when I that announcedand I'll leave you with the
routine.
Yeah, you and Tanya can work onthe first ass talk post.
That's what we're going withTanya today.
But, yeah, every, the, everysquat either.

(54:39):
The different variations servetheir purpose, right.
Like I said you, how you do anexercise is all about what
you're trying to gather.
Now you might be doing anexercise with the purpose and
intent of I want this to happen.
Whatever this is, I want thislook or I want this, you know,
result performance wise, or.
But maybe that's not the moveRight, and you just don't know.

(55:01):
It doesn't mean you're doing itwrong.
It doesn't mean you're notgoing to get a benefit from it.
But if you want to know, like,what's the best thing for me,
then you know there's differentways to go and sometimes you
just need to try it.
All Right, and you're very bigon safety.
Anything that you do in the gym, be safe first, right.
As long as you safe, you know,have that is that starting out

(55:21):
with a lot of weight or makingsure that you put your form,
your technique.
You know I'm saying like gotyou.
There's a difference between, Ishould say the, the, the.
I don't think people reallyunderstand.
Like training, yeah, you knowwhat I mean.
Like, yeah, you're training.
Training implies that you'regoing to be doing a lot of the

(55:44):
same stuff over and over andover again.
You like basketball, love it.
I like basketball, love it.
These guys go watch Hoosierslater on.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
No, you're not, I know Watch, you got game.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
It's the anniversary or something like that.
Oh yeah, yeah 雪 home.
So you know, when it comes tobasketball, in order for a guy
to get really good at somethingthat he does, he's going to do
that same thing over and overand over.
Yeah Right, steph has takenmillions of jump shots,
thousands of shots each day.
He doesn't take a.

(56:16):
His form is the same everysingle time, for sure.
He practices short range, longrange, this side- Thanks for
using Steph man.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
It means a lot.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Keep going.
Well, because Steph, it's myguy, steph go, I know him, you
can wind up with you.
Yeah, look what Steph said.
Get it sweet, I got the SC9.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Hey, listen, I'll post.
I will post that tweet that Igot Vision's there.
Remember the tweet I got?
I got a tweet from StephBecause I had bought his shoes
and I had put it on Twitter.
I said man shoes are all right,man Shoes are.
He sent me a tweet.
I said Steph, chill, man, Idon't got time for your shit.
You know what I'm saying andthat's how it ended.
He ain't talked to me since.
But that's my guy.

(56:54):
I feel like in my heart that'smy guy.
But continue, brother.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
That's why I can't see no, because I was gonna.
You just trumped my BC story.
What's the BC?
I had a bi-to-cosby story.
I'm not gonna tell it.
Oh, we got chill on counting.
No, because you brought theminto the equation and that's the
Listen man.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
You keep talking about guy.
I don't know, I ain't listen,why you keep talking about guy I
know the brown.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I've seen the Browns on the real life.
Never went inside, I just seenit in real life.
I stayed across the street.
But that's my guy as a child.
As a child, you know what I'msaying.
I was playing the show, butbasketball they do the same
thing.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
And so when you talk about training, you're trying to
pretty much master something,and in route to mastering it,
you're gonna get some type ofresult.
So, master chef, right, keepcooking the same thing over and
over and over again until youdon't even have to read the

(57:52):
recipe.
You look in that pot and sayyou're missing something.
Right For sure.
So it's the same thing withtraining.
So if a woman is trying todevelop her glutes or quads or
calves or whatever, Kind of aprofessional.
You're going to do.
You're pretty much.
You're trying to train, you'renot just going to exercise.
If I say, hey, we should do it,I went to the gym and exercised

(58:15):
.
I don't know what that means,because you could have walked on
the treadmill for 45 minutes.
The first half losers.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
They watch you and watch he got games.
25th anniversary came out lastweek.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Go ahead.
But when you're and it doesn'texercise this is a broad term
I'm going to go to the gym toexercise, right, but within that
there's a lot of differentmoving parts.
And then when you're trainingright, you're more than likely
going to be doing a lot of thesame things because you have a
specific focus.
But if you just want to workout, you want to maintain okay,

(58:49):
I'm going to work out my fullbody today.
So this week I'm going to doall kettlebell stuff, next week
I'm going to do all body weight.
Then the week after you'restill going to be in decent
shape and great health and aslong as you're eating right and
you're doing the things you'resupposed to do to compliment
that, you'll be fine.
But when you want a specificlook or a specific result or
performance is concerned, you'regoing to end up doing the same

(59:11):
thing over and over and overagain and you're going to do
things that compliment that mainthing.
So you want your squats to bebetter.
Yeah, you're going to do a lotof squats, but then you're going
to do exercises that complimentthe squat.
So not only do you speed up thefamiliarity of the squats, so
now everything that you need todo is second nature.

(59:32):
So when it gets heavier andheavier, you don't have to
overthink that.
My feet right, you know it's mycore engages this right,
because that's the first thingfor me.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I don't mean to jump in there when I'm squatting or
something like that.
As soon as the weight getsheavier, I'm like whatever I got
to do to get it up.
God, you know what I'm saying.
That's the wrong way toapproach any exercise, whatever
I got to do to get it up,Whatever I got to do.
So what is?
Do you assess people as you?

(01:00:00):
Hey, I just thought ofsomething.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Go ahead.
If you decide to run with thisright, I am going to run with it
.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
We spent all our time in If you decide to run with it
.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
you know, I'm talking about what we just discovered
as a new social media platform.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Oh yeah, I got you.
You had me for a second.
I was like wait a minute, youready for it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
You ready for it?
Okay, as stock.
Whatever I got to do to get itup, hey, because you said it
Stupid bro.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Whatever you got to do to get it up, that's the
slope, right, that's really good.
Do you assess people when youfirst?
When you first, you know, get aclient, is there an assessment?
Yeah, do you have the yes andno?
Okay, do you have the machinesthat you're using to assess
people?

(01:00:50):
No, or do you have that?
Um, uh, uh, that Bill Paxtonfrom Twister, you know you can
go outside and look in the skyand tell where the tornado is
going to land.
You got that old school methodof being like this is what you
need to do.
Oh, okay, yeah, that's what I'msaying.
You got the machines.
Using the machine, I seem like,uh, I don't mean to keep cutting
you off, sorry, we, uh, me andmy lady, we was in Chandler, uh,

(01:01:16):
we was in Chandler mall and, uh, we went to what's the?
What's the?
What's the story?
They got in Chandler mall, thebig one with the Ferris wheel in
there Is it heels He'll?
Why?
Cause one came in, you don'tknow, okay, so, um, it's a big,
big, big store.
It's like a has everything andyou can get guns, you can get

(01:01:37):
basketball trophies, you can getbasketballs, wheels or shields
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I've never been, but I've been hearing about it Very
nice place.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
You're only going there if you got a hundred
thousand to bank.
That's what they told me.
But you can go in there and yougo in there.
You look at his shoes, we snuckin there.
I ain't got a hundred thousand,we snuck in there.
So I went in there.
We was looking at his shoes, meand my lady.
But they got this machine and,uh, you step on it and it shows
you like what foot you put mostpressure on.
Yeah, all types of things.

(01:02:06):
So all those, you use stufflike that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I like the body scan.
Um, what I like about those, uh, about those devices, is it
gives you a gauge, is it ahundred?
I don't know if it's a hundredpercent accurate, but I don't
believe that it's that far.
Like, if you come, if you wagedyourself this morning, right?
I?

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
didn't say you did, it was nasty, I didn't want to
do that to myself.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Let's say you wait, you waged yourself in the
morning, your son said this, andthen you come to the gym and
you get on the body scan.
The body scan is going to doyour weight.
It's going to do your, yourbody.
It's going to be your body fat,your BMI, all these different
numbers.
Uh, if the scale at the gym maynot be the same exact weight,
right, it might be off fivepounds, but it gives you an idea

(01:02:58):
.
Okay, there is some accuracy forthis you go here and do your
body mass index on this device,but then you go over here, and
do it.
Yeah, it's a similar.
It might not be the same exact,but it's close.
So I like to use it as a gaugeto show people like look, this
is you know, this is what itsays today.
Yeah, you know it might be all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
That's not us using the bathroom.
That's my guy, Juan, gettingsome water in the back.
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
But um, but it, you know, it gives you a gauge of
where you're at Like.
If you care about those numberslike okay, where's my body fat
compared to my weight musclemass and lean mass and all these
different things.
And so for those that are anumber oriented, number driven,
and they want to see that I'lldo that, okay, I have done that

(01:03:44):
for them in the past.
But as far as to answer yourquestion, like assessments, I
like to base it off of what itis that you're trying to
accomplish, like some somethings you know.
You know it's not much of anassessment needed.
Yeah, if you're like I, just Ineed to lose weight, okay, we
need to talk about your diet.
You need to talk about yourfood.
I don't like you were diet, butwe just need to talk about what

(01:04:05):
she.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Yeah, why don't you like using the word diet?
I don't know, I just I don't.
I mean there's got to be areason behind it.
You don't like the way what itimplies, or like yeah, you
talking about diet, I think.
I just mean I'm wide, that'swhat you're getting at?

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
What do you think you feel?
I just feel like I've used itso much that I just oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah, I don't like the word influencer or algorithm
.
I think they're overused.
Everybody uses the words Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I can see, I can know what I'm getting.
Yeah, I got you I got you 胸 ifyou got.
You know, brother, I see you,I've got you.
Hey, including with me.
I fit your fat.
I'll just I'll be a lie, okay,cause you, you're drinking, and
what are you getting?
What the ultimate option is?
Oh, so, because I normally tendto eat out every week and
that's everything.
That, like you'll get me thewhole week.

(01:04:46):
Looking at it, I use myenteen.
After awhile, I do a ton ofthat exact thing with him.
But yeah, yeah, this is okayFor a second.
I think it's better to gethooked up over the wild
investors.
I think it's it's better to sayto do this is what I'm gonna
look like.
Sometimes they'll pull upsomebody else's profile and say
you see how she did that, seethat right there.
That's how I want minds to sit.

(01:05:06):
And I'm looking at you like,okay, but you know what I mean.
Like you inspire, you'remotivated.
Let's see, let's start herefirst.
Right, so everybody has theirgoals.
Right, they did what they wanttheir bodies to look like and do
.
But sometimes you have thingsthat need to be addressed.

(01:05:29):
You might come to me and sayyou know, now I want to shed and
I want to be able to lift thismuch, like this and this, but
then you got a knee issue.
We got to address that, yeahyou got to address that.
Now we can address that andstill speak to what you're
trying to do Right, but we'regoing to prioritize that because
we don't want to compromisethat and make it worse just for
the sake of you getting this,this goal, right as far as like

(01:05:53):
weight loss weights, and thenyou got your your cardio right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
What's your favorite cardio?
Do you think somebody out theresay they try and lose 10, 10
clean?
What do you think the bestoption, cardio wise, is for them
to do?
I know you talked about theword that we don't like to say.
We don't like to say diet, youknow that that.
That's key.
We know that is food, you know.
Say somebody, man, you know Icreate scenarios.

(01:06:28):
So say somebody is they justcoming off the weekend?
Right?
Okay, they went to 1111.
You know what it was.
And they came here.
Then they came to the worldseason.
They ate better, ate bad.
All week they was enjoying wellseason.
We got some of the best food inthe city.
It was enjoying it, right.
And it's like you know what Ifeel, like I need to make a
change this week.
I want to try as lose.

(01:06:48):
Try to try as I want, to try asI want to try as the dudes that
I want to try to lose three tofour good ones, right, so they
need to get to have some liquorthis this weekend, right, this
past week.
I mean liquor in the systemthey want to get.
So you got to.
You want the system out ofthere Clean system.
What would you tell them to putin their body?

(01:07:08):
First to start with the cleansystem.
I got more out of this but saythey want to get some of that
stuff out of their system.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Well, I'm big on cleanse on the cleanse Okay.
That's that's.
That was one of my.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
I said I did that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
So one of the things that was one of the things that
I started doing, you know,shortly after I got on my road
to being better after the stroke, and all of that was, I started
making juices.
Yeah.
And I was experimenting.
I mean, I was throwing ineverything in a blender, make it

(01:07:41):
you know one time.
For a while I couldn't figureout why I put all this, these
nice bright colors, in hisgreens and these reds and these
oranges, and everything justkept coming out brown, right,
like I don't want to figure outwhat to keep going down.
Why does it keep blending brown?
Like you know, I don't rememberthis mix of the crayola you

(01:08:04):
know you mix this crayon withthat crayon.
It didn't come out brown.
That's funny, what's going on.
But I was doing that and it gotto the point where I found one
of the main reasons why I did,aside from just road to recovery
.
I had knee injury playing balland I was also trying to, you
know, battle with that, like howdo I reduce this inflammation

(01:08:27):
and aches and pains or whatever.
And I, you know, in my research, I found the benefits of
cleansing and whole foods andall these different things.
So my goals were that you know,this is what I'm dealing with
and this is what I'm trying toresolve.
Then I realized, you know whatI want to package this up, right
.
So I did.
I packaged it up, I decided todo a three day cleanse and I

(01:08:50):
started selling it.
And what was the?
The first thing that was reallydope about that was, of course,
it's never fails.
Anytime something new hits themarket, who's the first to go
after it?
Who's the first to go after it?
The first to go after thenewest, hottest product on the
park, the market?

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
I'm about to fail you .
I don't know.
Women yes Tracks, they spendthe money.
Got you Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
They want to, they want to, they want everything
that they feel like speaks toyou, know the aesthetics and
this and women's spending moneyI got you.
So my first wave of ofcustomers when I was selling my,
my my three day cleanse willwomen and I was getting so many
interesting reports of you knowwhat they were experiencing

(01:09:36):
after the three day.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
What were they?

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
One of the things which you know at this point.
I'm, you know, early 30s.
You think I would.
I would know this again.
How many women go aroundtelling us this information?
Not many at all, never.
I know you and your profession.
You're around a lot of women,yes, and I'm pretty sure a lot
of women are in the club atnight throwing them back to back

(01:10:01):
and they're experiencing this.
It's called bloating.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Yeah, For sure they're going to live their life
.
Cosmigos, you know what is thataround the bloat?
You know what I'm saying?
Women live with bloat.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Like Gunshot victims live with bullets in their
bodies.
That is the bullet.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
No, I'm being serious , I thought you were so wild
Because it's like it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
I can do about it.
It hurts.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
But it's gonna hurt For sure.
I'm not gonna stop living, sothey be bloated and we never
know it, right, you know?

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
what I'm saying, that little tear yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
It's not because of what you said, it's because this
is hour six.
Right, I'm on hour number six.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Yeah, I'm on hour number six.
Thanks for my number again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
So they were like this is the first time in my
dough life that I haven't beenbloated, Right?

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
I was like what Damn that's a win.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
How Like, what do you even mean?
I've been like you know, I'veeaten things in Adneville's and
then it goes away For sure.
You stay like that, yeah.
I didn't know that I'm 31.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
I'm like how do you live, howdo you drive?
You don't say gas break, gasbreak you constantly.
Like how do you do that?
So the other thing was, youknow they would sell my hair, my

(01:11:24):
skin, my energy.
This morning, you know, likethe first day, first day and a
half or whatever, I had aheadache and when that passed
and it was just like it was justall of these different things
that I wasn't paying attentionto.
I was probably experiencingsome of them.
Right but.
I didn't pay attention becauseI'm just like how's my knee, my

(01:11:45):
knee, good?
Can I hoop, can?

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I still.
That's what we be on joints.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
You know.
Meanwhile, blood pressure is A.
My cholesterol is doing greatand I have no idea and nor do I
care.
My knee still hurts, then myblood pressure don't matter.
Don't tell me I'm, you know,115 over 75, but I can't hoop
Right, right, get me 170 over190.

(01:12:13):
You, good bro what?
Let me windmill.
You know what I mean I do.
Let me windmill.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Let's start running.
The blood pressure is going tocome down, that's what you start
working out, so this guy got metearing.
You just fool me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
They going to find out?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
So yeah, long search, I was doing three day cleanse.
That worked out well.
I personally just got kind ofbored with it.
I felt like there was more tooffer.
I didn't stop it.
I just, you know, I stoppedkind of pushing it.
People I built a pretty decentclientele base so they were like

(01:12:57):
hey can I come and get cleansor whatever, and I take care of
them.
So I recently I want to sayfour or five months ago I
revised my menu, right, and so Idecided to, and I spent about a
month or a month of just likeexperimenting with things that
I've already tried, right, butreally because I'm big on the

(01:13:21):
recipe, that matters, like itcreates consistency, if you know
like.
Okay, I know what.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I'm saying Consistency matters like a month
.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Right, you know what I mean.
If you go in this, they saythis is what's in it, cool.
So I'm not going to throw allof those things Right, but you
may not get the same consistencyFor sure, because they just
throwing it in there.
I'm going to put an extraorange in there for you this
week, nah.
Did you do that last time?
I don't want an extra, I wantwhat you gave me.
So I'm really big on makingsure I master the recipe and so

(01:13:50):
I did that for about a month Iput together.
I actually have on my website.
That's where my menu isTraining there every day.
There you go, you do it and gothere God's green earth is the
training every daycom.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Training day every day.
Training day every daycom therewe go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
And so the name of that.
My juice line is called.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
you're going to call from Denzel soon.
Go ahead, oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
The minute.
Him and that conglomerate.
Sue me, I know I'm good, comeget me.
Watch my following Everybody.
Who is he?
How do you make Denzel mad?
What do you do?
So God's green earth is therebrand.
Before it was just whateverPeople just get the juice from

(01:14:39):
training day.
So I decided to actually brandit, make it its own thing, have
a full menu and kind of it'sstill a cleanse option.
You can still use that as acleanse.
I really encourage people tokind of make it more of like an
everyday thing.
Yeah, I'm big on eating yourvitamins.

(01:15:01):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Right.
So if you don't, you don't takevitamins, you like to eat them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Okay, right.
So if you, if you having yourfruit, you know veggies,
whatever if you having someplants every day, your grains,
all those nuts and seeds and allof those, you're getting your
vitamins and minerals.
A lot of people are deficientand don't know this because
they're deficient and don't knowthat they're deficient because
they're not getting enough ofthose things.
Right.

(01:15:25):
Even when they feel like, ohwell, I had fruit today and I
had vegetables, and you know Idrank this, but they're still
eating things that are hinderingabsorption.
Oh wow, so you can eat all thefruit and veggies you want, but
one of the biggest things thathinders absorption is
constipation.
People are constipated, as muchas everybody.
Yeah Right, like some women arebloated and constipated and

(01:15:47):
don't know which one it is.
Really, oh well, maybe, well,maybe, but, but no, but.
Constipation is a big thing.
It really, it really slows.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
I didn't know it messed up your oh, but go ahead
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
It slows things down.
So if you're, if you'reconstipated and there's
different signs of constipationand all it is is just to stop,
it's a blockage.
Like you, you got too muchgoing on.
You have things that are reallyslowing down digestion, that
are really hindering yourmetabolism, so they sit there
and they sit there for so longthat sometimes they ferment, you
know, or they they will.

(01:16:21):
And and if you're eating toomuch of something, right, like,
like I said, with the exercises,like you know, do you have
people out of eating, likeyourself, and you have people
that are really big advocatesfor animal products, right, if
you eat red meat, you know, gofor quality and and and monitor
your quantity of it, right,right, at the same time, you're
not, it's not a death sentencethat you eat red meat.

(01:16:43):
You know.
It's based on, you know, yourlifestyle, the quality of it,
the timing of it.
But if you're just eatingburgers and fries all the time
and you think, oh, I had anorange today, I'm good, what
happened that?
Got my one orange, put you upto the good, you know what I'm
saying.
Got my zinc, got my this?
You know, no, you didn't,because that orange is still
sitting where it started, likeyeah, for sure, so you ingested

(01:17:03):
it, it's it's waiting for thatred meat that's going to take a
while right, and potatoes andWell how did?

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Oh, that's a GQ, so how do you?
So we talked about the personcoming through and that's how
they flushed it out they gettingit the trains, right, they
getting the cleanse from you.
You get that, that cleanse thatin you and get you cleaned out.
What would you recommend next?
They going straight to thecardio.
They going do you prefer cardioor cardio?

(01:17:33):
Overweight?
What is?
What is a little bit of both?
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
I like to get the, I like to get the heart rate up
through strength training.
I, and I don't have anythingagainst, you know, treadmills or
road work or any of that.
I think, like I said, there'sno bad exercise, right, that's
just my personal preference,especially if you know you're
trying to.
If you're trying to lose, it'sbeen how are you trying to lose

(01:17:59):
weight?
Right, if you want to loseweight and but you want to build
muscle, you want to shape.
You know, male or female youwant to have, you know, chills,
chest and shoulders.
Or you know, as a woman, youwant to have a slim waist but
you still want to have some nicelegs or whatever.
It just depends on what you'retrying to go after.
And then also, what do you need?
Right, you know someone may notneed to be on a cardiovascular

(01:18:24):
device for 45 minutes everysingle day to burn the fat.
Your body type may just needmore strength training, right,
and you're going to burn the fat.
You need to burn in the rightplaces and still develop the
body.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Right, so okay.
So we got.
Let me see double check here.
We can do about five moreminutes because I got one phone
dying.
I got you good, though.
This has been fantastic.
You got a special guest, Pilla.
What's up man?
How you doing man?
Um, so okay, how do you so okay?

(01:18:58):
So there's just like there maybe a bit of a um uh, it doesn't
be sensitive with this.
It may be a little bituncomfortable where, um trainers
and women right, um, women, mayI've seen, I may have read some
things, heard some things whenit comes to trainers and women

(01:19:20):
being comfortable or the trainerbeing a little too much, or how
do you go about handling yourwomen clients, keeping them
comfortable and in a good spacewhere it's just we just working
out?

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
They just that just kind of comes with with time,
especially like if you don'tknow them at all, like I met you
as a reference or um, just stayprofessional.
And I know that just soundslike vague, like okay, well, but
uh, you, you build a rapportbased upon your approach, right,

(01:19:55):
and if you know that you havethe same purpose and intent as
the person that you're servicing, then you shouldn't be a
problem.
Right, you know, like, now Iget it.
You know it's the opposite sexand you know there could be an
attraction.
But if you are taking the sameapproach with everybody every
single time you treat the, youtreat the client that you're

(01:20:18):
most attracted to, mostattracted to, the same way you
treat the client that you'releast attracted to, Right, Right
, you know what I mean.
And so you find yourself nevermismanaging how you conduct
yourself.
Right, I'm going to spot herthe same way I spot her Right.
I'm never going to spot her alittle different because I like

(01:20:38):
her.
Right, Right, Right.
And this is, you know, I'm justgetting a free feel and I want
to see how she reacts if I youknow what I mean.
Yeah, but if I'm over here, I'm, I'm I'm keeping my six feet.
It's COVID.
This is COVID workout, rightyeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
I'll never get close to you yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I don't want you to get the wrong impression.
Right, that's terrible.
Right, I want her to get thatimpression.
No, you do it the same way allthe time.
And then also within that, younever.
You never look at I don't wantto say you never, but whether
you would see yourself datingthat person or not.

(01:21:16):
You never take it out ofcontext.
Right, you never take a wideway here out of context.
I'm here for the reason why youare Right, you know you, I was
referred to you, vice versa,whatever.
This is what we're doing, soit's just really keeping it
consistent.
Like I treat everybody the sameway, I don't.
If someone asks me, you know,do you have a client?

(01:21:37):
Like like you know that oneperson, or there's a couple of
people that you know they'recoming in, or you know it's that
day of the week and you got tosee them, and you're like man,
no, no, no, because I know thatthe one thing I like is I like
the uniqueness of eachrelationship.
Right, right, like I know thatthis person, we're going to have

(01:22:03):
these conversations, yeah, Iknow this person um, we're going
to have a talk because they'regoing to bring that coffee, and
I'm saying that's a whole.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
that's going to be the kickstart.
It can't bring no coffee Right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
No, I'm just saying like okay that's how it's going
to start.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Okay, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Everybody has their.
I have my own relationship.
Yes, Each person, so right.
And so when you have that again,it goes back to what I was
saying, like keeping itconsistent.
Yeah, I can't wait to train, um, you know, michelle, or, or, or
whomever, because I like her,yeah, but then I got Miss

(01:22:40):
Barbara later.
I don't really want to see MissBarbara because she, she's old,
she's slow, you know.
Sometimes she you know, youknow what I'm saying she take
too long.
She's been exercising for fourhours, you know what I mean.
So it's, you know.
Have the same approach, keep itconsistent.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
We're going to pop some one words off here and then
I'm going to ask you a funquestion here Um, mental health
and exercise, right?
Uh, in your experience, howdoes?
I guess I can't, you just can'tone word with that.
How does?
It uh regular exercise impactyour your mental health and
wellbeing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Whiskey.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
There it is.
No, I'm joking.
No, where do you see the futureof fitness going To hell, to
hell.
I'm kidding, go ahead, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just
thinking.
No, no, no, you're fine.
You're fine, you can answer,bro.
I'm just messing.
Uh, mental health and exerciseyeah, does it hurt from?
Yeah, you said what the wordwas.
Yeah, mental health andexercise, like uh, uh, does

(01:23:40):
regular exercise impact?
How does it impact mentalhealth and wellbeing?

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Oh, like tremendously .
Like I said earlier, you know,to go on all the way back to
that and one of the firststories I told you, you have
someone come in and and and begoing through something, but
they still came to the gym thatday and then they talked to me
about it.
Yeah, that experience I'm surefor them.
Let them know like this is asafe haven.
Like, had I not gone near today, even though I didn't work out,

(01:24:07):
and had I not gone and stayedhome in my shell, I probably
wouldn't have released this.
I probably wouldn't have.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
No for sure.
I've always felt like that assoon as I hit the gym yeah, If
you get there, get it done, youactually feel better.
Exactly, you know what I didsome shit today.
The other one I asked you was afuture fitness.
Where do you, uh, where do yousee future, the future fitness
heading?

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
The uncle that we talked about?

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Yeah, I feel like crazy ass, 35 year old drinking
bad eating 35, look 95.
Right, right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
I believe that, as much as it's over saturated.
Another one of those thingsthat I don't like to use, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Over saturated.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Um, it's, it's one of the most positive over
saturation of anything that'sthat we have right now, at least
in this country, because,remember, we used to look at
fitness videos as, um, I wasgoing to say, robin Williams,
what's my man?

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Richard Simmons.
Richard Simmons.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Ty Bowell.
There it is.
They got the things circulatingon social media with the dudes,
with the, with the uh bluesequence outfits.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Yeah, I know you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Yeah, whatever they doing to dance.
Like it was, it was made fun of, right.
You got the ArnoldSchwarzenegger Right, that that
that you know.
When Arnold was doing hisbodybuilding thing, there was no
gray area.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
And I feel like today , you read his book, by the way.
Oh, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
No, but I did see the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
I did see the three part series.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Yeah, he um visions, visions.
Listen, you listen to it, right?
You listen to a podcast and youlisten to the book.
Which?
Which one?
The book?
Okay, yeah, he said it wasfantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
I like.
I like three part series.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
I didn't watch three part series but I will, because
you, you sold it.
You sold me on it.
Um, I do have one fun questionthat I'm going to have you play
a game.
Uh, you where?
Where's your?
I'm going to start doing thiswith people Instead of staying
in Target.
They don't pay me.
Where's your favorite place toshop at?
What's your favorite store?
Where are you?
Where you like to go?
Uh, grocery store, regularstore, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Oh, oh, oh.
Man Favorite place to shop it'sgotta be the grocery store.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Which one?

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Well, I'm in, I'm on the hunt.
Oh man bro, did you see them?
I did.
I had to take a breath and then, okay, had to gather myself.
Um, I usually go to Sprouts.
Hold, okay, we're going to takesprouts.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
All right, okay, there's three celebrities, dead
or alive, that you can take thesprouts and go shopping.
Who are you taking with you,dead or alive?
Dead or alive, so you can takewith you inside a beautiful
sprouts.
I'm a whole-food guy myself,but sprouts is a little bit
cheaper.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Oh man, Uh three celebrities.
I could take grocery shoppingwith me.
Yeah, Uh man, oh tough question.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
It's fun though, kobe .
Oh yeah, nice.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
I'm a, I gotta go with Cope.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
You know you ain't buying no sweets for Cope no.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Because I want to see what he's saying when I pick up
something he don't approve of,just a mess with her right, just
want to.
That's pretty cool man.
I'm not gonna say it like manit'd be serious about it, Like
nah, you ain't about to blackmom over some gummy bears Right,
knock that shit out.
Right, it probably leaves methere, right?
Um, uh yeah, kobe, uh, who?

(01:27:32):
Who?
Because this is a toughquestion.
I mean three celebrities, Idon't know, man, this is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Come on now.
Three celebrities, gq.
You had uh, I think you hadlike Poc and then like Trump.
Did you say Trump?
And then who?
Who?
Obama?
That's a hell of a combinationboy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Um, I don't.
I feel like he's a celebrity inhis own right, because he
actually got bigger after hisdeath.
Yeah, I'd like to go shop withDr Sebi.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Dr Sebi, so you got uh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Because I feel like we gonna go to Sprouts, and
that's not bad, right, he gonnago to.
You know what he gonna do.
We gonna go to Sprouts and youthink Kobe bad, because Kobe's
like yeah, really Like.
Kobe gonna be judgment too.
Yeah, dr Sebi gonna be likethat's not real.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
And you gonna be like , but I've been eating this for
like six years and it's inSprouts.
It's gotta be real.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
We going back to my land.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
There it is.
Like as soon as you go to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Sprouts, he gonna smell the antsy.
Everything in here man wegetting out of here.
Number three, uh, number three,oh, man, celebrity, uh, I know
you said three people, but I'mgonna just make this one.

(01:28:49):
I wanna go with the whole TNTcast.
Who Ernie Chuck, charles Kenny,oh yeah, that's kinda cool man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
I wanna take all of them with me.
That be kinda cool man.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
You fucked up my question, but that's real cool
man and I wanna sit there and Iwant us to just judge the people
that walk in to Sprout.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
You don't chuck a hater, so he just gonna be
hating nonstop.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Chuck gonna say Chuck gonna call somebody big ass,
while her big ass in here heknows she don't shop here.
If she did, she wouldn't bethat big.
You don't chuck on.
Say something like that.
For sure, for sure, for sure,and then Shaka dude when she say
Chuck, she gotta what, shegotta what, I want some meat.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
There you go, man, I'm gonna hand you that I want
you to pick you up.
That's the game we played downhere.
I want you to pick you acategory and you mind, if you
help me, visions man.
I wanna ask you one day aboutyour celebrities, man, because I
think it's important.
Gq, you walk through the door.
You wanna help, please, man?
Okay, well, come on, do raggot.
You said nah, man, come on, man.

(01:29:42):
So you just choose a subtle ad,not like boy.
Yeah right, you choose acategory and you gotta hold it
to your head.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Hold it to my head like this no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
So you choose it and you put it up like this oh, oh,
like this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
And we gotta try to tell you in clues and you gotta
guess what it is.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
I'm gonna go with this one Face on forehead cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Damn, I don't hear no music or nothing.
You're supposed to play music.
Yeah, I'm supposed to playmusic.
Oh, um, this is a movie ofcourse.
Okay, cool, uh, it's got SteveMartin in it.
I already lost.
What did I?

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
just get out of?
Yeah, what did I just get outof?
Man Uh ring, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, uh, when you, you got, you got
hints, uh, divorce, you gotkids, yeah, what are you?
A father, okay, father in law,no, okay, of what I was.

(01:30:50):
Oh, you said Son in law, son,in law Son in law Son in law.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Son in law.
Son in law.
Son in law.
Son in law Son in law.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Son in law, son in law, son in law.
I said to write, I gotta write.
No, you didn't oh shit, Ilooked at it.
Yeah, you just flip it, just doit up, just lift the phone up,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Okay, we gonna wait until yeah, just look Look.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Look, look, we gonna run it back.
Man, we gonna run it back.
Pick up, pick a new one, andthen we gonna run it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Okay, um.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Did it take a picture ?

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
of us Show you my host.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
I'm dropping for this week.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Yeah, so you want to do a different category?

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Yeah, you do it.
You can do whatever you want,all right.
Here.
All right, now you ready?
Yeah, three, two, one go Sh.
So, oh man, you know what it's?
Singer Friday 13th.

(01:31:57):
What's his?
What's his?
What's his first name in Friday13th, jason?
Ok, I ain't going to be able tohelp you with the last name,
but you got the first one R&Bsinger, pop singer.
But which one is it you said?

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
you said his first name already Jason Derulo.
Say it again Jason Derulo.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
The song title.
Oh shit, yeah, you need thesong title.
Oh yeah, my bad, bro, you mightwant to pass it.
I can't help you, man.
We can't help you.
We're failing you right now.
Did it work?
Oh, this is fantastic.
Man, don't go chasingwaterfalls.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
I almost messed up.
See, see it all TLC, don't gochasing waterfalls.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
It's technically it's right, but you got to switch it
.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Don't go chasing waterfalls by TLC.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
That's why I'm running real more time as we get
out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
One more time.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Yes, you know it does take a picture of people too.
That's pretty cool, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
I don't know how you are.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
What are you picking?
This is some gangsta and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
All right, let's try this we need right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Yeah, we go.
Ok, he was a late night talkshow host.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Jay Leno.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Boom, I don't know.
I know right, I can barely go,oh oh oh.
You know what?
It's connected to this?
It's connected to my Um.
I can do it, but I'm going todo it.
I got a pocket full of pocket,full of sunshine.
I got a pocket full of pocket,full of sunshine, oh, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Oh, oh, Michael Phelps.
Say again, Michael Phelps.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Oh you know Dakota, she was in a movie with in
training.
Yeah, I got it.
Oh, I have you.
You might, you might want to goahead and pass.
I don't know I'm going to letyou down.
Oh, you ain't going to noticeone either, but Twilight.
Yeah.
You wouldn't get that.

(01:34:13):
Yeah, that's the All right.
Listen, that was Can you do mea favor?
Yeah, can you tell everybodywhere they can?
That was horrible for us.
Can you tell everybody wherethey can find you, your social
media platforms and all thosethings like that?

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
What you got coming you know your website and yet
you know Instagram at trainingday every day, spelled how it
sounds, and website is trainingday every day.
Dot com, my clothing brand,work clothes, work clothes.
That comes actually spelled W R, k, c, l, t H S, nice, yeah.

(01:34:48):
And then my juice is also on mytraining day of every day
website.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Nice.
Yes, how much your juices, thecleanses.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
May I much be talking , how many?

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
I mean, just how do you buy, yeah, so like, like,
like a day the prices are for.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
the flavors are real close.
It's like 25 to 27 for a day,for a day cleanse, and then the
more you buy the price goes downper per bottle.
So I have a six, a six, 12 and18 pack.
Ok, sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
And my name is Daddy Ashay.
This is seasonable clout.
You can find me on Instagram atthat is that shade.
You can find me on Facebook atthat is shade X.
Twitter at that is shade.
And on Tik Tok is the samething too.
I appreciate everybody forlistening, nay, I appreciate you
.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate the storyteller ofthe year.

(01:35:40):
You know I'm saying I expectnumber of great things from you
later in life when it comes totelling stories and when I get
your book, when you write yourhealth book.
I appreciate that I'm a sinkinto the couch.
Oh, my God, I'm going to liftthat book up and I'm going to
read.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Oh, I hope you know I hope you're not going to be on
that thing I was on back in theday, no no no, no, no, no, but I
appreciate you.
But listen, you need to let meknow when y'all are going to
have improv night at 11.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Oh, we're actually.
We actually work on that.
Yeah, we're having a year.
What?
Yeah, One of our guys, Brandon.
You met Brandon.
He used to manage 1111.
Mm hmm, oh, ok, cool, he's acomedian now and they're
supposed to be setting it up todo the comedy night here.
That's what you mean, rightyeah, are you talking about

(01:36:28):
actual dramatic improv, likeacting improv?

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You talking about comedy night?
Yeah, you going to do it, go on.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
What the fuck?
I just want you to ask about itfor me.
I just want to come and watch,man, I thought you was going to
get up on stage, man.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
I mean like let me tell you something I got some
RDLs.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
I heard that's a bad exercise too, but I don't know.
We're getting that later on,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
All right up now.
Yeah, I appreciate you, yeah.

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