December 19, 2023 • 61 mins
From stitching together a business plan amidst the chaos of a pandemic to threading the needle at LA Fashion Week, Brooklyn's story is nothing short of remarkable. In a candid conversation, this self-taught fashion designer shares the highs and lows of bringing Shop Crystals to life – a journey marked by resilience, social media savvy, and a touch of familial wisdom from the sewing lessons of her mother and grandmother. Prepare to be inspired as we unravel her tale, from serving tables to dressing NBA dancers, and even the occasional celebrity.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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(00:33):
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Ladies and gentlemen, I am FadiAshay.
This is Seasonable Cloud.
It is what is it today?
It's Thursday, december 14thand I am up here with my third
(00:53):
interview Now, just so you don'tknow, I've done a lot of solo
podcasts Because that's what Ido.
I'm a weirdo.
I go on rants, talk to myselflike a weirdo.
But, miss Brooke Lynn, is ittogether?
Like Brooklyn, like Jay-ZBrooklyn, new York City?
Do you ever just yell Like you?
Don't yell like a rule, newYorker, I'm walking here nothing
(01:18):
like that.
But I have.
How can I put this Fashiondesigner Brooke Lynn, fashion
designer, nice, okay, how areyou doing today?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm good, I have so much to do, but I'm here.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I know you're very busy, and so let's talk about
you being an extremely, anextremely dope designer, and the
reason we're here right now isbecause I'm always impressed,
always impressed with somebodywho has a talent, takes their
(01:57):
talent, pushes their talentforward and makes it work for
them Right.
Talk to me, I know Shop forCrystals, shop for Crystals,
shop for Crystals is the websiteand that's where people can go.
Talk to me how you get startedin the lane of clothing design.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, honestly, I started my LLC during COVID,
like while the world shut down.
I started my LLC, so I thinkthat was 2020 and from there I
started creating sweatsuits andvelour sweatsuits.
I know y'all remember that backin the day, all throughout
during COVID and stuff, Icreated velour sweatsuits and
(02:35):
swimwear.
And you know selling product onInstagram, and from there it
took off.
I never had to go back to work.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Really, what were you doing before this?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Serving.
I was serving at two differentrestaurants and going to school,
so I had my degree in criminaljustice from.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
ASU.
It seems like everybody figuredout what they could do during
the pandemic, when the heart ofthe pandemic, you kind of
figured out what you could do.
When you went after that Wereyou just chilling at home.
At one point it was like Idon't want to work or the
pandemic shut your job down andthat's why you were at home in
the world of imagination at thatpoint.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, so originally I went to ASU and I graduated in
2018.
And it was like December 2018.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's for the graduation, for the graduation,
oh, thank you.
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So I had my degree in criminal justice from.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
ASU.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And the whole plan was to go to law school.
I wanted to be a defenseattorney.
So I'm still very passionateabout that.
But from there, you know, I wasjust taking a couple months off
, you know, just to prepare forlaw school.
I got accepted to San JudeoConnor.
So okay, I clap a little forthat too.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh, you want support too.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
How can you support that?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, that's fine I like somebody who doesn't clap.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Nobody needs to clap for that shit, Not many people
make it like even get accepted,you know.
So I was able to get acceptedto San Judeo Connor Law School,
asu.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
For some people who don't know like myself kind of
school or something like SanJudeo, connor, but the school
tell me about it.
Why is that school hard to getaccepted into?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's all law school.
I mean, you have to bededicated you have to get the
correct scores.
All of that in order to getinto law school, you feel me.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Got you, so you basically could be like law and
order SUV.
If you wanted to, you can getinto law.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I mean to be a lawyer .
I only have three more years ofschool.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So you know, that's the goal of mine.
Eventually, like once, I'm, youknow, set with all this Set.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
To yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Once I'm good with all of the designing and
everything I do, plan to go backmaybe just to get my just to be
a lawyer and just say I'm alawyer too.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You know that's dope yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So, yeah, from there I graduated, took a couple
months just to prepare for lawschool, and then during that
time, like all throughout schooland college and stuff, I was
serving at two differentrestaurants as well.
Really, you know, that's howit's getting in the bag and
serving a little bit.
So, yeah, from there, both ofmy restaurants that I worked at
(05:04):
closed down.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Because of the bit yeah, yeah, covid.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So from there I was like okay, well, now I'm
unemployed, I'm on unemploymentnow Right, right, right.
When is my job gonna open backup?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So that's why I just taught myself how to sew during
COVID.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Did you?
What type of sewing machine didyou have?
Did you like some old schoolmachine?
I did, I did Really.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
My mom, she okay, my grandma and my mom, they both
know how to sew, so they taughtme, like, I guess, how to like,
just stitch the normal, thenormal way you know, Just real
simple techniques.
And come on, bro, you workingover here.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
My god, winston, they know who.
It is okay, you doing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah.
So they taught me a couplelittle techniques.
So I started sewing on my mom's.
I don't even know, it's like1990, something.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Sewing machine 1990, wait, how old are you?
26, 26, do you yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No, I know, I'm from the.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I was born in the 90s , but I'm just saying like, okay
, at this point it's 2020.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And that's like there's way better technology
now.
You know it's like sewingmachines out there so so sewing
machine have the pedal.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Are they still got those?
Yeah, they all do.
Keep going, keep going yeahthey all got pedals.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So I'm sewing on this , this old machine.
It keeps getting caught.
I'm like ugh, okay, but I'mlike teaching myself how to sew
and I just started creating likejust random little outfits I
don't even know sweat suits andyou know my passion is
streetwear and you know bringingfashion and streetwear into the
arenas now as an NBA designer.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, I want to get to that.
When it comes to yourstreetwear, was there anything
that was like inspiring you?
Were you on YouTube?
Were you on the gram?
Is there a brand out there thatwas inspiring you to get into
the streetwear?
Sewing and needle in stitching,you know, was there?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Not, really, I'm not.
I mean, there's a lot ofinspiration just seeing the
fashion that, you know,celebrities wear and stuff, but
at the same time I try not tolike look at other brands and
compare myself to other brands.
I don't see competition.
I feel like I'm in my own lane,I've created my own niche, you
know.
So I don't really comparemyself to other brands because
(07:12):
we all have our own purpose.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Right.
I'm here for a reason to createmy own lane to get my own
clientele, so I create fromthere.
So you really, you really wereshown by your mom and your
grandma correct on how to sewright.
You took it and basically I'm amovie nut.
So you iron man the situation.
Like you basically started withpretty much just an old time
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machine of a sewing and got inthere so like when you're
sitting at the crib and you'resewing, it's 2020 and you're
sewing like was it realstruggles into learning the
process of it.
Honestly, no, honestly, sewingis not that hard like you could
even sew, like it's really notthat hard I'll burn eggs.
(07:57):
I've burned eggs before, so you,I don't know about sewing.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm now gonna have some needlepunches all in my fingers and
stuff.
But go ahead, get to it.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Honestly, yeah, sewing is really not that hard
when you're talking about, like,hemming some pants or something
, hemming meaning taking it up,like making them shorter or
something.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Thank you for schooling me see, there we go.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
No, I just don't know .
Maybe the listeners don't knowthat.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No, you help me out.
I'm just from your world, soI'm all the way inside of it.
So it's cool, keep going,you're good.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, so with sewing, like it's more difficult when
you have patterns involved andyou're trying to create like a
jacket or a dress or something.
That's where it gets moredifficult, versus like sewing a
pillow or something.
That's what I started off doingLike when I was way younger.
My mom was like well, let's sewa pillow you know it's just a
straight stitch, straight lineinto a square you feel me, yeah,
(08:43):
yeah.
So you know, but during COVID Ireally elevated that and I was
able to take a straight stitchinto more Right, right right.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So when you that whole process sounds like a
completing situation, when youlook up and you have like an
idea that you're going throughand it's there in front of you
and it came out the way you wantit, how many times are you in
that process where you're tryingto come up with a sweatsuit or
something like that?
It didn't come out and you justdetermined to get.
(09:14):
There were a lot of times likethat.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean with sewing.
I always tell people likesewing is just a lot of like
learning it's a learning process.
As you're going, you're like,oh shoot, like, maybe this isn't
going to work with thismaterial you know, because
different materials are moredifficult to sew, like sewing
denim or leather.
That's not easy it's thickmaterial leather gets caught up
in the sewing machine, so youhave to find new techniques to
(09:39):
do it properly.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Really.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So it's a lot of research.
I didn't go to school for this.
I went to school for criminaljustice, so I don't have all of
the techniques other people dowhen it comes to like actually
going to school for fashion.
Right so maybe I'll do that too.
Maybe I'll go back to schooland actually study fashion.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Why not?
Why not?
And before I continue, I justwant to tell everybody can you
grab that little nitro gummy?
We're going to keep it rightthere.
Dad, you know I'm not tryingthis, you won't try that, not so
spicy, that's not for me.
Is this an ad no?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
it's not an ad.
I'm like did they sponsor you?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I just want to bring that in and start doing that to
where I can bring in some ofthese.
I have a homeboy that owns PopExotics out there in Mesa and he
has nothing but exotic snacksand chips and soda stuff you
find around the world and I justwant to implement that.
So you won't do the littlenitro, right?
No, okay, you put it down,we'll continue.
I'm going to convince you to dosomething that's on top.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, I don't know about that hot dog either.
That looks nasty.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's not like a hot dog.
It's a gummy hot dog.
It's Oscar Meyer.
Does it taste like a hot dog?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't know.
You wouldn't have to.
You're a vegetarian.
You would have to.
I'm a vegetarian.
I'm not eating a hot dog.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Wait, so you were hold on before we continue with
the clothing.
You know, listen, have youfound some good vegetarian spots
out here, some restaurants inPhoenix, az.
Maybe somebody's visiting orthey're listening.
You got some good.
I'm a plant based guy so I knowyou the vegan, you still get a
little dairy in there.
You got some spots you hit up.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Honestly, I cook most of the time, but when I do,
there's this Thai restaurantright downtown I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It ain't Thai bistro.
Is it no difference?
I don't know, it's right thereby Hannie's kind of.
Oh no, Hannie's is a littleover there, I don't know the
name of the spot though Veganhouse or something.
Oh, I know what you're talkingabout.
Yes, I know what you're talkingabout.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I always get like vegan patai.
It's so good and I'm on it then.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Back to your journey.
At what point does shopcrystals, you know, get into
your head, Did something cometogether and you're like you
know what folks will buy this.
Or did you start when youstarted selling on the ground?
Did somebody, did you noticethe demand being there?
Is that what kicked it off?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, so I actually brought my brand to LA Fashion
Week.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Oh dope.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, and people just I did.
I started with denim.
I did a lot of denim, likeSwarovski crystals.
I only use authentic Swarovskicrystals on all my designs, so
that's kind of where I got myname.
Yeah, because, honestly,crystals like I just needed to
come up with a name quick so Ican make an LLC and start
running business you knowauthentically and legally, I
(12:26):
guess.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Did you get LLC all on yourself, did you?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh sweet.
No see, I'm self taughtEverything I do is me Same same,
but keep going.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'm sorry for interrupting, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, you're good.
So I brought my business to LAFashion Week and people really
loved the denim and everything.
I was selling a lot of productright in LA.
From there I just kind ofcontinued transitioning my
business from denim to swimwearto streetwear, sweat suits you
know the velour sweatsuits.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And now I, like, rebranded my whole business to
just be strictly team gear now.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Team gear.
It's just strictly team gear,so it's no longer something like
you would normally see.
I'm not in a horrible this likea New York fashion week and
then like that I've actually hadlike there's a runway company,
I guess, in New York.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, that they've reached out and they want my
product in LA Fashion Week.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Really Okay.
So let's just as we continue tohave fun.
You now you got to tell me yougot into just team fashion.
Where?
What is that?
Talk to me, Drop it on me.
What is the team fashion?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean.
Nba is really big with fashion,you know, you see, the handle
picks and all that and it's huge, but you never see anything
with the dancers or the hosts oryou know, in the team shops you
never.
You never see anything for thewomen.
It's always the NBA players inthe tunnel.
So I'm like, well, why not Icombine fashion, like actual
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streetwear fashion, and teamgear.
So that's my whole goal inimplementing this into the NBA
arenas.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So who in team wise, who you've worked with, I know,
but would you like to share whohave you worked with in the NBA?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I worked with a lot of people at this point, a lot
of fans like NBA fans, NFL fans,yeah, team wise NBA.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
and then we'll move to NFL, team wise.
Who do you work with?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, so currently I am working with the Miami Heat,
the Suns, the Sacramento Kings,the Clippers, the Spurs the
Timberwolves.
Nfl wise.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
NFL wise.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Currently, I've worked with the Raiders and the
Cardinals.
That's major, I mean.
This is all within one year,though.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, that's why I got to take note, remember, this
is just one year.
It happened at any moment.
So what like?
How did that happen?
How do you get with billiondollar businesses?
How does that fall into yoursituation?
How does that happen?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Networking it's all been networking.
I've never paid for an ad.
I've never, you know, put outanything like put money in
marketing at all.
It's all been word of mouthadvertising.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You can't like a four-leaf clover or like a
rabbit's foot or something.
I'm highly favored and blessed.
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I'm always out here just putting out good
energy and wishing others well,and I feel like when you're
doing right by others, you'regoing to be blessed.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So you said you were out here networking and hold on.
I completely agree with that.
Every time I run into you, theenergy is fantastic, it's
positive, you're smiling, it'sfantastic.
So you're going to yournetworking, and did somebody
just say, hey, you know, I wouldlike to do something with that
with the sons, or how did thathappen?
How did that transaction happen, though?
(15:38):
How does that start?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So originally I was outside of the footprint center
selling custom jerseys.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I used to like make these just yourself, just out
there Industry selling product.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So it was actually.
It was when the sons were inthe finals with the bucks.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And that's when it all started.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So I started selling these jerseys.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I'm sorry, I just sometimes I'm doing a random
with it.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm doing random with it.
So you okay, keep going, keepgoing.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So yeah, I was selling these stories.
Fantastic, thank you.
The jerseys with the chains onthe side I know you've seen it.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I have seen it.
I will put it up so people cansee it If they haven't seen it.
You got to see that, but keepgoing, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'll send you the pictures, but there was a tick
talk that went viral.
Basically, I did a photo shootwith this jersey.
I had the adjustable chains onthe side.
The tick talk.
The tick talk got over to weshould have got that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Listen, I want you to know.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I offered the water, but I didn't have the bottle
water.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
She looked at me and she had a frown upside.
You ain't got no what.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Sorry, I'm very picky .
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I need that Fiji, I need the Fiji.
Okay, spring water.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Spring water.
Okay, spring water Got you Okay.
Well, okay, anyway, I got over2 million views Major and you
know I sold thousands of thosejerseys.
So I'm like, well, why not I golike outside and sell them to
like to these fans that arewalking to the game?
So I'm literally walking allthe way around the footprint
(17:06):
center by all these restaurants.
Everybody's outside walkingaround preparing for the game.
So I sold thousands of jerseysoutside.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
What does that feel like to have?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
something before we get to the sales.
How does it?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
feel like to have something go viral that you've
created and it's 2 million viewsand you're selling thousands of
jerseys.
I got to get into.
How did you even handle thepackaging and shipping, because
that, by yourself, seemed like aton of work.
What did you do?
How were you feeling when allthat struck?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I felt good, I'm like damn, finally I created
something.
I mean the valour is beforethat they went crazy too.
So I'm like those were crazy.
It's the valour is because Iwas a shot.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I can't even say it now.
You know, I'm not even going tosay the valour is that I used
to wear when I was younger.
I can't say it because he wasin, you know, he and some other
shit.
I don't want to say what thename brand and nobody to get mad
at me.
But yeah, I used to win.
When I was younger I had thevalour suit.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, so you know, then we brought those back and
these fives and all that.
So the valour is we're verysuccessful too.
But it's like you got to create, continue creating, to sell and
, you know, keep up with thetrends Right.
So you know, I created thisjersey.
It went viral.
It felt amazing Like, just youknow, seeing these people
wanting to wear my product too.
That's a big deal.
(18:22):
So from there I was walkingaround the arena, yeah, sold all
those.
Then I started going to theSun's Games.
A little bit.
I'm like, okay, let me see whatthese fans are wearing.
You know right, Just keep thatin mind.
And then I, actually, a couplemonths later then I was walking
around the arena again and I raninto one of the players
(18:43):
managers.
He was like walking outside andwe just ran into each other and
he's like, wow, I really lovethat jersey.
Can I put it in a fashion showtomorrow?
Because basically them, yeah,literally, it's alignment,
complete alignment.
So I'm standing on the cornerof I don't even know what the
streets are.
Jefferson is something by theway.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Jefferson is something We'll go with
Jefferson and something it'scool yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So I'm standing on the corner literally selling
these jerseys.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You're wearing a million and million players
right there and I'm weiolvo,yeah Right, well而且, I mean
stuffed in like across that teamis just, it's kind of game Open
generous players, makes youolog家 ôn, which is meiolvo and
I'm that I was going to do theLibraries oversize game in that.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I'm like, and I'm like, uhm, I think, attitude of
that game, so it was and takingthe jersey from her and bringing
it into the fashion show thenext day.
Oh, wow so at this point we gotcredentials to the Suns game.
(19:47):
We're like okay, let's make this.
It makes all of them happy,yeah.
So from there I actually justwalked up to the Phoenix Suns
host.
I seen her on the court, walkedup to her and was like, hey,
can I design for you?
I have some like custom ideasthat I want to make for you and
she's like okay, like instantlywe clicked.
To this day we're good friends.
(20:07):
I was just in the Bahamas withher in.
Oxford Like we're tight we'regood friends.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You ain't just gonna mention the Bahamas and not say
how well.
How was the Bahamas?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh, it was good, it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You was having a living life.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
We honestly slept.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
We were there napping on the beat Sounds right.
We were both so busy.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Her name's Alicia the Phoenix Suns host, so we're
tight.
Hi Alicia, good listening.
Honestly I'm gonna say shechanged my life Like that day.
That's the one right there,okay, she changed my life Like
she has, like all of thesepeople staring at her every
single game you know there's17,000 people in the sun's arena
every single game and she wearsmy custom designs on the court
(20:47):
every single game for almost twoyears now so.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Is there a like every game, you make something for
her.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Every single game, literally.
After this, I gotta go home andmake her a jersey I'm annoying
with the claps.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You know what I'm saying.
This is my Mori crowd.
You know what I'm saying.
They get a little ruckussometimes, but they hear the
cheer, they hear the support.
So you do some.
Every game, every game.
And y'all collab on stuff,y'all talk about things.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah.
So she, thankfully, she justtrust my vision and she's like
okay, what you got for metomorrow, you know, and this
week was very busy, so there wasa game yesterday and the day
before.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I know, and now there's one tomorrow.
You know the game, listen.
You look over here.
You see this, what's up here?
Oh yeah, okay, you see whathappened.
Yeah, the game y'all had.
You see the name of thesneakers.
You see the curries.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Were you at the game?
No, I was at home.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Man, I almost tipped over everything and knocked
things over.
Look behind you right there.
Look behind you, see that popright there.
This is Curry Nation.
This is Steffy Nation righthere.
Oh, I'm like, what are we alllooking at?
And it's over there, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I saw the game but, yeah, I was hurt, I was
destroyed.
Wait so, have you been to agame?
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, I went to.
You know, my lady.
We went to a son's game andseen the Warriors last year
around November and yeah.
I'm with Steff Curry in that,so it's OK, Wait.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
so how do you feel about this during my green
season?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's what I'm saying.
So you saw what happened.
Yeah, I was there outside.
It brought a little tear to myeye because I knew as soon as it
happened.
You just knew that my guy wasgone.
He was gone.
I didn't expect all of this,but he's gone.
You know, I'm saying I didn'texpect indefinitely, but I get
it.
You know what happened and whathe's been doing.
It's been a different year forhim, so you know as a fan.
(22:32):
You hurt, but I understand, youknow what I'm saying.
But I also do rule for the sonswhen he not playing the words,
because I'm an NBA nut and I'veseen your work consistently and
all the time.
It's just fantastic.
But I don't want to stop thejourney.
I just so you all.
Do you pull from?
Do you and Alicia pull fromanything when you guys are
coming up with something?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
No, and it's mostly my ideas.
Again, like she trusts myvision.
So it's like well, sometimesshe's like well, I feel.
You know I want to be warmertoday.
You know I want to be morecovered up, so I'll make her
like a blazer.
And you know, I always try toput my client's autonomy first,
because I'm not trying to changetheir style or change who they
(23:14):
are or what they're comfortablein.
I want to make sure they'recomfortable at all times,
especially when you're on thecourt and you're 17,000 people.
Yeah to be comfortable,confident, all that.
So, yeah, she gives me likeideas.
Sometimes she's like, well, Ihave to do something after this,
so let's do something a littlebit more comfortable today, you
know, like a flannel or asweatsuit or something like that
(23:35):
, versus you know, a blazer, youknow.
So yeah, she'll tell me likewhat she's in the mood for.
But other than that it's mostlymy idea From your imagination.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Willy Wonka pops in again.
So when you now you move yourson's your home base, you didn't
build it.
This is what you're on.
How did you get with the heat?
How does that that that trainroll over to Miami in that
situation?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, it's all Are you doing?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
the same thing.
Are you, you know, their hostof the night?
Are you providing them with thesame?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
gear.
Yes, I actually have a collabgoing right now with her.
Her name is Kelly, she is with.
She's a host too.
Oh, nice.
So I've been able to justnetwork.
It's all been networking, it'sbeen social media.
You know the Timberwolves.
I work with them as well.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I'm actually going to Minneapolis this weekend, oh
yeah, so you got to wear aboutfour or five bubble jackets.
I got you, you got the weather,the triple cruise down.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Oh my gosh, I'm from the north, so I know what it is.
But I've been in Arizona for 12years so I've been accustomed
to this weather now.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, your body changes, I'm a little afraid to
go there.
So, yeah, I'm from Missouri, soI definitely know about the
cold.
So you know about going outscraping the ice.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh my gosh, don't talk to me about that.
I moved to Arizona to get awayfrom that.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
You ever had to shovel snow before?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yes, my family has videos of me like offering to
shovel.
You act like I'm not going toask one Can I get?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
can I get one of the videos?
No, can't get one of the videos.
Ok, it was.
I always used to have to do itand my grandma had a driveway.
Now listen, we're poor, right.
So I never understood how shehad a fantastically long
driveway.
I can't get, you know, a decenthappy meal but she had this
drive that extended forever.
(25:20):
So when we went over there, thefirst thing that was can you go
down and get the shovel and goto the drive?
And it was a process, and Imean a process.
So I don't miss the snow at all, I can visit it, but I don't
miss it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I don't even want to visit it.
I'm only going because I designoutfits for the NBA dancers.
They're going to be wearing iton the court.
So I'm going to get somecontent.
See it, you know.
Network.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And then I'm different.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I'm literally there for less.
I think it's like 12 hours onthe dot.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You have like a packaging form.
What's the packaging?
Like you hook up the package?
Would you?
Would you put the gear in?
Do you have like a special boxor anything like that?
You know, you know, you knowyou.
Just you just send a box.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
you know you're selling, you're sending a lot of
product and it gets veryexpensive with how heavy the
product is.
So I tried to limit thatbecause you know I'm not trying
to charge five, six hundreddollars ships and products you
know, so I have to consolidateas best as I can.
But yeah, I still have goodpackaging.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Your materials?
Where are you getting you?
Can you talk about that?
Is it like a like a like asecret?
No, it's not a secret where youget your materials from, how
you figure out what materialsyou're going to use and vendors
and all that stuff.
How you figure that out.
How do you work out a lot ofresearch.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
A lot of research.
You have to buy and testmaterials.
Again, it's.
It's taken me a long time.
I've worked with the NBA for alittle bit over a year now, but
even before that I had to do alot of research and just test
material.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So pressure on you.
When you're designing, do youfeel pressure?
You just, do you reallypressure?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
especially working with the NBA.
They have a lot of deadlines.
So, and their budget and stuff.
They don't get that approveduntil maybe a month or two
before they need the product.
Yeah, yeah, and all of this iscustomized, like 100 percent
customized.
I'm not getting just like sweatsuits or something wholesale.
This is all one of one for theNBA, customized from the, the,
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the straps, the, just everything.
Everything about this productis customized.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I can only imagine.
The research.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, ours.
I barely slept the past likesince June probably.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And never, never, nothing.
Like you be on Tiktok or theGraham, nothing really strikes
you and you sprinkle a littlebit of it here and a little bit
of it there.
Do you get ideas from socialmedia?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure,yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And there's some creators and stuff that I'm like
.
Oh, I really like how theystyled that.
Let me you know.
But I don't look at brands oranything because you know that
that ruins your creativity Right.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So you don't want to like steal anybody's ideas oh
here goes a random moment of whois the best dressed in the NBA.
Hmm, that's hard.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I feel like I'm not going to say names.
I'm really not.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But yeah, there's been a couple of people on the
sun.
I'm like, ok, they could dress,yeah, but this year not so much
OK.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, have you outside of teams and in NFL NBA,
have you done customs for otherathletes?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, my target audience isn't necessarily the
player themselves.
It's more the mamas, the wifethe sisters, the daughters, the
son's fans.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Is it cool to see mom and mom and daughter wearing
your together.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You've seen that a lot.
So I've actually designed forSeidel Curry Lee that's Steph
and Curry's sister.
Listen what I just talked toyou about.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I know you love Steph Curry.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Look at the shoes, look at the pops.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You already know soon , as you heard Curry, I'm about
to ask him can I meet the thirdcousin of the third cousin?
Is that possible?
No, but go ahead yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So I designed for her and her son last year.
So I designed them customjoggers and flannels, so they
were matching.
They were super dope.
Like it's just crazy the amountof people I've been able to
network with just being in theseNBA arenas.
That sounds crazy, you knowthat was just in alignment as
well.
I actually met her mom first.
Really Steph and Curry's mom,yeah, and they're all so dope,
(29:22):
they're so sweet.
So I met her at the game andshe's like, wow, my daughter
would love your stuff.
So she was able to connect us.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That is major, that's cool.
I don't even know what to doright now.
I'm like I'm actually in alittle bit of shock right now.
That's really cool.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Wait, you never seen it on my page?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
No, like I don't.
So the thing about it is, ifyou've seen me, I am a social
media duck.
That's how I make my money.
I'm a nut, I'm a crazy forsocial media, so that's how I
make my duck it's.
I'm always on there.
Yeah, I'm always trying tobuild and I'm always trying to
figure out what's coming aroundthe curve and how do I stay
relevant from the young audienceand stuff like that.
(30:00):
So I'm always on there.
But the way I'm on there, I'malways searching.
You know, I'm always divinginto different videos, marketing
videos, all types of stuff.
So I don't get a chance to seemy own timeline.
But when I lock in and I payattention to what you do, that's
how I see.
But I didn't see the Steffi.
I've seen a lot of stuff.
(30:20):
I haven't seen the family ofthe Currys, where I can, but I'm
going to, because now I'm like,yeah, I'm running over there.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, it's like her husband actually plays for the
Sun.
Yeah, that's why, yeah, that'swhy, like her mom, was at the
game.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So Okay, so there's nobody in the fashion world that
you would want to meet.
There's nobody you would belike you know what, if I can
meet this person that's in thefashion world or that's in the
same lane, or maybe they own abrand that you may wait, is
everything you have when yourock your own.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
No, I do most like when I go to the games again, I
design team gear.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
So you know.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
But I enjoy wearing other brands too, because it's
exhausting, like, oh, I'm aboutto step out, let me make
something.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
It's so I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's the start.
Does it ever?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
feel like just a straight up job.
Sometimes you'd be like or doyou just because you love it?
You doesn't.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, sometimes when I'm up at 5, am Literally
working all night.
I'm like, oh my gosh, is thisreal life?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
But no.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I enjoy everything I do the traveling, the networking
, just meeting so many people,getting to wake up and do what I
do every single day is bad.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
That's right, I love it.
So again, there's nobody outthere in that world and that
atmosphere that you'd be likeyou know what If I met this
person that's in the same lanesit means pretty bad ass.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Honestly, I would love to meet Tiana Taylor I feel
like her style is fire and Idefinitely get some inspiration
from her.
I'd love to meet her and I'mmanifesting that right now.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
There you go.
What is some of the fits orsome of the pieces that she's
put together, that of you?
Have anything you can just dropto me that I'm going to go take
a look and see what she's just,oh, that's it, it is dope.
Anything she's rocked where youwas like yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Not that I could remember, not that I could think
of.
Yeah, it's like I've beenscrolling on social media and
like, oh, that's fire yeah.
But nothing I can actuallythink of.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You're not in the scams world and I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Not really.
I have mad respect for her,though.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, like as a woman entrepreneur.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's very difficult, for sure, especially in this
industry.
The NBA is not easy for females, right?
You feel me Like you reallyhave to hustle to be noticed,
did you?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
run into some of that , or do you feel like once you
started to get into that process, you've seen that it was a
little tough to get all the wayin the door?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I feel like everything so far has been in
alignment.
That's dope.
Everything has gone verysmoothly.
Yeah, I just take note of a lotof things I witness, you know,
because I'm not an employee.
I have my own business and Ijust partner with these NBA
teams to create custom designsfor their dance teams.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Nice In the host Nice .
Speaker 2 (33:02):
So you know, I just take note of a lot of things I
see and notice.
It's just not easy for females,especially female entrepreneurs
, it's difficult to be takenseriously, yeah, yeah, but
that's why I prioritize mypresence and where I'm at, I'm
very picky on who I surroundmyself with, just all of that.
You have to protect your energyat all times because you never
(33:25):
know who's watching.
For sure.
You never know who's looking.
I'm a businesswoman first.
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
If you got another young lady that comes up to you.
She's in the same world as youand she has some questions you
open, for you know, do you dropthat knowledge to someone?
Do you drop that knowledge tosomebody or to a young lady
that's trying to do the samething?
I know there's a word everybodyuse about gatekeeping and not
sharing, but do you feel likeyou're a person that?
No, I'm going to give you somegame, I'm going to school you a
little bit, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
So I'm always putting people on game for sure on how
to start your business.
You know how to get started as adesigner in just the process,
but I'm definitely not going totell exactly what I do, Because
you know, but it all starts withnetworking and I will always
tell everybody that, likewhoever's trying to start a
brand, especially youngerfemales or even females my age,
(34:15):
whatever if you're trying tostart a brand, it all starts
with who you know and you knowwhat can you bring to the table
Right?
And it's about your energy too,because if you're not here, you
know again doing right byothers, or you know prioritizing
peace and energy and just beinga good person and positivity.
(34:36):
You're not going to get too far, because that's very important,
especially as a business owner.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Would you ever?
I don't know, this is a thing Icould just be shooting from the
hip.
Is it possible at one pointyou'll further in your career,
maybe next year or maybe evensooner you would put together
like your own?
Is that a thing, a lookbook?
Is that a thing that you'vedone for the NBA?
Have you done anything likethat?
Or?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, so it's all on my phone.
I just keep it low key because,like, I share what I want to
share on social media.
You know I don't share mypersonal life or anything like
that, but I do have a lookbookand it's in my phone.
Yeah, just keep that.
Maybe one day, maybe one dayyou put it out, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So is there a next step to so?
But wait a minute.
The average person, could youknow manner, I mean women could
go on and to shop crystals andbuy the same stuff that Alicia
works.
They could just head on and.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
So right now I have my website.
It's up, but I took everythingdown because I just had a
collaboration with the footprintcenter which is the arena
that's on display.
I just did a collaboration withthem.
We did a whole giveaway for theDevin Booker Wolven Hoodie that
I created.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That was literally designed, sewed and themed by me
.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
That is fire.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
You did all that.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, so that the images that are on there were
gathered, created by my graphicdesigner.
I had it printed on Wolvenmaterial.
Well, actually it's literallyweaved the images.
Yeah, and then sewed a hoodieout of that.
I originally did the first onefor Devin Booker's dad.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Really.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
He wore the very first one back in.
I think it was April.
Yeah, he wore the first one Iever sewed and from there I've
been able to just elevate it andnow it has a satin inside, like
the hood in the body, thesleeves, it's all satin inside.
It has zippers so you can getit on easily.
That's crazy yeah.
So we did a collab with thefootprint center.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I mean, how do you?
Even my brain doesn't even worklike that how do you come up
with something like that, thezippers on the side and all that
stuff, how do you?
And then the sizing how do youwork the sizing?
I got so many questions.
How do you work the sizing ofsomething like that.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I mean it's a hoodie, so it's not too complicated
with the sizing.
You know you just takemeasurements from other hoodies.
You know there's templates outthere, so that part isn't
difficult.
I'm all about functionality.
When I design my product aswell, I want to make sure it's
easy to get on, because thewoven material is not stretchy
at all.
So that's why I added zippers onthe side.
(37:10):
That way it just opens it alittle bit to make it easier to
get on.
And then I added satin inside,just because you know people
wear their hoods up a lot andthat's not good for your hair.
The woven material, so makesure to put satin inside, but
yeah.
So the first one was createdfor Devin Booker's dad, Melvin.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
And he wore that one to the game and from there
people loved it.
So I'm like okay, let me likecreate more of these.
And yeah, the Footprint Centerreached out just a few weeks ago
, wanted to do a collab, so wedid a whole giveaway and posted
that on Instagram just last weekand the engagement was crazy.
There was at least 6,000 likes,over 3,000 comments, people
(37:52):
wanting this hoodie.
So I only have that on mywebsite.
That was the whole point intelling you all that.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I want the story that was.
That's amazing.
But when you have to do acustom project like that, you
know it's just you right.
How long does that take you toget done?
Or is it by order, or is it youhave to want a certain amount?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, so I have a team now, back then when I was
doing the last time that was onme and my mama was helping me
pack it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Shout out to my mom.
Shout out to my mom.
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Is everything.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes, so, but now I have a whole team helping me,
you know, especially with thesehoodies, because they are hand
sewn by myself and my team.
Yeah, all perfected.
So, yeah, it does take sometime, especially to actually
create the material itself.
Again, it's all like woven,literally the image is woven in.
So, yeah, it takes some time,but you know, I feel like we've
(38:49):
been able to get these hoodiesout pretty quickly.
I say my processing time isbetween like two to four weeks,
just because most of my productsare custom made to order, so,
but yeah, so I got all the.
I got like at least 15 of themsent out today.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Jesus, that's.
It sounds like an amazingsituation, and then it also gets
thing kind of daunting.
You know, I'm saying when yousee the amount of orders or
amount of people that want it,you're like I'm just saying it's
beautiful.
I bet it is.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It might have been like seeing all that, like I
actually had tears.
I'm like wow.
I work so hard to get here.
Just hustling day and day out.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Are you satisfied?
This is where you'recomfortable at, or do you want
to?
You got more.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Never comfortable.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
What is more, what is more when you want to go next
with it.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Honestly, just keep expanding and elevating.
That's why I always say, likethere's there's no end to this.
There's a million sports fansout there whether it's NBA, nfl,
mlb, it doesn't matter Likeeven high school teams, college
teams.
You know you have to justcontinue.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
When you were a young , young lady is this is
something that you wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's crazy because I never thought I would be like an
actual fashion designer.
But, remembering back, I usedto tell my mom like I want to
design.
They always wanted me to belike have a good job, a good
career, you know which?
That's what they were taught.
So they continued on to teachus to have a good career and all
(40:24):
that.
So that's why I pursued law andyou know I'm still very
passionate about that.
So I do want to continue thatin the future.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I'm not some folks back home that might need you,
so I might have to go ahead andcheer on you going through and
getting that law degree andbecoming a lawyer.
So, family, wise mom's, thebiggest inspiration that you
when you was young was was itmom's?
That was the, the she.
She inspires me, she fuels me.
(40:52):
Is that who that?
That was for you, of course,well both of my parents they
were also entrepreneurs.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Growing up, my brother and I would just be with
my family at all times.
They had businesses as well.
Yeah, yeah, a sports store.
They owned a movie store, apizza restaurant, all before we
moved to Arizona, right?
So I grew up watchingentrepreneurs do that, do, do
what they do, you know, justhustle.
So that was my whole life and Imean you can keep going.
(41:20):
No, you're good, yeah.
So I just my parents wereentrepreneurs as well.
So just taking note, eventhough I didn't know back then,
I was watching them taking noteson that.
Now I'm like, oh, that makessense.
So my dad, to this day, givesme advice on like business
tactics and stuff, because,again, I didn't go to school for
this.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So he's very knowledgeable on that.
My mom too.
Like they're both just verysmart, giving me advice and just
always being there for me.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You gotta support system I do my parents.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
they've been married for over 30 years.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
So that poster for love, that's what you then game
is Finding somebody that you can, you know, go through decades
with.
So Christmas is here, Holidaysis here.
I know things are given past.
Are you a big holiday person?
I'd like to get into you now.
We know that you fire, go,continue to fire.
(42:16):
You know and do amazing work.
You're not a big holiday person.
I'm not treating you to grinch.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I'm not the Grinch, but I'm into conspiracies and
all that.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You just rabbit, rabbit every day.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
That's literally where I listen to all day, every
day, when I'm working when I'msewing, when I'm pressing
everything that's, I'm notlistening to music, ever, I'm no
music at all.
Rarely.
If I listen to music, it'll beone toy lanes or two meditation
music.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Oh nice.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah, so other than that, I'm always listening to
ebooks and you know just yeah,going down the last E-book.
You were you know, I was justlistening to the mountain, is
you?
That's not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
No, I know, but like like a ebook that's.
Was that the ebook you'rejammed out to?
What is that?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Well, the mountain is .
You is all about justself-sabotage and like getting
past that.
You know there's a lot ofthings in life that we don't
even realize that we're doing,that we can fix.
So it's always about elevationin those type of ebooks and
audio books that I'm listeningto while I work.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Nice, yeah, I'm so I'm.
I'm getting more into the.
You too, like my boy, craigvisions.
He's a youtuber.
He's everything that he'sdiving into his YouTube.
Is that mostly where you getwatching?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Honestly take.
Talk is really good for a lotof conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, so you can't talk about it, but Can we, can
we ask about aliens a little bit?
You, you believe a little bitfor sure.
Okay, cool, I won't go nofurther.
Yeah, I'm gonna get some peopleaway, but I'm very
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knowledgeable on a lot of thingsthat people don't like to hear
about yeah, um, and we talkedbefore we got on here you don't
do no water, I mean you don't dono coffee, you know.
So, not coffee, nothing likethat, nope.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
So I drink water, spring water, bottled spring
water, I'm gonna remember that.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I gotta take the notes down for that name.
Name a few of your spots thatyou enjoy in the city, like in
your food spots.
I know we talked about the Thaispot uh, vegan hut or vegan
love vegan house.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I think it's called vegan house.
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
I think that's the spot because I order from all
these places because I'm lazylike that.
But um, yeah, give me a coupleof the spots around the city
that you like to go to eat at.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
If I go out I like to go to mass shows or ocean 44,
but remember y'all.
I'll be paying for my own shit,okay.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
You like to spend the duckets that you don't play
about the meals.
I mean, if I'm gonna go out,I'm gonna treat myself.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Right, right, because I work so hard so yeah, but I
always get the Caesar saladliterally everywhere I go, but
they're always fire.
You can not go wrong with theCaesar salad.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
What was something as a kid like you, just that was
your snack, that was your, yourfood.
Do you remember that?
Just you know, maybe you goback to it today, maybe you
enjoy it still to this day, butwhat was a snack or like a food
you just loved when you was akid.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I like chips.
That's something I do.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
You're a chipper, you snack on the chippers.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
I do like chips.
Um honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
No I.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I wasn't always like vegetarian.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
How are you feeling now?
Feeling a little, a littlesnacky.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
No, you try to give me to eat these snacks.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Can you grab the donuts?
What about the donuts?
They're like cool little donuts.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Chocolate sauce.
Oh no, oh, let me show thecamera this time, my bad.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Wait, do I have to make those?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
I love the fact that we just randomly I think you do.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It says make donuts.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh do I.
Yeah, so that means you'reforced to eat the.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I don't make me eat that.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
That's nasty, that even listen, you think I'll tell
you.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Can we turn the camera?
Wait, you're not even on camera, are you?
Speaker 1 (46:08):
No, this is just.
This is all you.
You're the most importantperson here.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
All right, let me take my camera out.
We're gonna post this too.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Well, I'm out of shape, so you can't put me on
camera.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I look at the shape.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
All right, so we.
So just I'm gonna try to showthe people this.
Oh wait, I saw that cameraright now because my other one's
uh charging right now, so yeah,let me record this.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Okay, you could go ahead eat that.
I say hot dog, but does thatmean it's hot dog flavor?
I think it is.
It's upside down.
Oh, is it yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Get away from the camera because I'm scared of the
camera.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Why are you scared of the camera?
It's just artificially flavored, but does that mean it's hot
dog flavor?
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I promise you can, I can you, I promise you you try
it.
Just a little snippity.
I promise you'll love it, ifokay.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
So did you already.
There's one missing.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, there is, I've worked see.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Is good, I promise you.
So it's not hot dog flavor.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
No, I would never do that to you.
That's, that is jackass typestuff, just a little nipple.
No I don't even eat candy Isthere is there wait, is there
like a charity that you can Idonate to, something for you to
do?
What can I do to convince youto enjoy just a little hot, a
little Oscar Myers hot dog gummy?
There's not a kid on earthright now.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
You go give those away.
That's nasty, All right.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I'll let you live on this one.
I'll let you live on this one.
Do you got um In this city, um,you know it's a lot of you know
, it's a lot of nonsense andstuff like that.
But do you got like a good setof homegirls?
You just got like one Bestfriend, that's it like that.
Are you got like a whole crew?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Um, I do have friends , but we're all entrepreneurs,
so it's not like A click oranything, nothing like that is
the whole group chat Justbusiness?
Um pretty much.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, honestly.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, yeah, my girl, right now my closest friend.
She's actually in the eastcoast.
So, but she's a business owneras well, so she just be out
there exploring, travelingfinancially free.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I know you don't like this, no, so you probably would
never move to east coast, wouldyou?
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Um no.
I mean, if I did, it would beMiami.
I guess you could say that'seast coast it wouldn't move to
Miami outside of the hurt?
Speaker 1 (48:38):
No, I've never you would, but you would to move to
Miami, you know.
That's why I really likeArizona.
There's Now we that's it andthat's why I like ultimate that
I want to San Diego.
San Diego is my spot, that Iwould like to hang my cap up, be
old and be wise, next to abeach in San Diego.
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But my problem is theyoccasionally have some weather
and some earthquakes.
I do not fuck with here in az,there's nothing.
I just deal with the sun, anoccasional dust storm and that's
pretty much about it.
And so is that.
Would you ever leave az?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I would for a little bit, but not to like, retire
somewhere else, you wouldn't goover to pears and live in pears.
I don't know.
I've never been.
I would love to visit, but Idon't know.
There's a whole different worldout there that I haven't
experienced yet, and I reallyplan to travel more as I I
continue success and become moreand more financially free.
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Um, you know, it takes funds toget over there, so Right now I
have a business to run so Ican't go too far for too long,
but that is the goal to travel,even to buy, and all that I love
it sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
You got a business to run and I know that.
The toughest thing, because atone point I was doing shade hats
and and listen, that was a longtime ago, don't worry about it
we needed the lorry and to findout how far I had to go back to
when I was doing that.
But the toughest thing that Ifound when I was doing that is,
you know, when you want to doother things and something is
(50:11):
rolling right, trying to findsomebody to put in place.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
That's my biggest problem.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
I don't feel like you could just go to is it was
indeed, or LinkedIn.
I feel like that's.
You need to find somebody thathas that same type of passion
that you have to know that yourbaby is okay.
You ever thought about that inpart of that.
Finding somebody that it feelslike it's almost an impossible
task.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I mean.
That's very difficult for me,especially with who I work with.
Obviously, I work with veryhigh-end clientele.
You can't just trust anybodyand I have NDAs in place for
everything, yeah, even yeah,ndas in place for everything.
So but it's very hard to findemployees, even now people you
know they want to be a part ofthe team, they want to model and
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all that, and I love that.
It's beautiful to see peoplewant to work with me, but it's
also very difficult to findpeople to trust.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Well, what if there's some ladies out there that want
to model for you?
What do they have to do?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
I mean, I mean, you have models, you see, got models
.
Yeah, loyalty is number one forme.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
So, you know I feel like it feels really soprano
right now.
Loyalty, you know.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
I mean, I'm very big on principles in general, like
loyalty is huge.
So right now, my main model,nefia.
She's been rocking with mesince I started my business in
2020.
So, she's been modeling for mesince then Nice.
So you know I'm big on loyalty.
You know, you just got to proveyourself, I guess.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Right, I'm assuming like having a little bit of that
fashion mind and stuff has tobe there.
You feel like you'll always bedoing some sort of designing and
in sewing and you know you feellike that's something that
you'll always be.
You feel like there'll be apoint where, okay, this is
rolling and now I want to dothis, and it's not necessarily
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fashion.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, I mean it's all about I know you want to do.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
You know you want to lock folks up or, you know,
prosecute, because you're goingto be a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
No, no, no, no, no, prosecution Okay.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
It's law and order.
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
No, no, prosecution.
Defense attorney.
Nice, nice, okay, okay, I'm onthis.
Did any of these one of them?
Okay, got, no, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
I'm just Keep going, keep going.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah, so I mean, it's all about multiple forms of
income too.
So you never know like, maybethis will work itself and I can
step aside while it's stilloperating in the future and
continue on.
But yeah, multiple forms ofincome.
So you just never know whatthat's going to look like.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
And this is wild Because you get the traffic that
you get.
I'm assuming your TikTok doespretty well yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Pretty good.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Do you make dollars off your platforms?
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Mostly just through sales.
I did try the TikTok creatorfund or whatever.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
I didn't see too much success with that.
Maybe I'll try it again.
I've heard other people make alot from there.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Currently I do have bonuses on Instagram.
Nice, yeah, I can profit onthat.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
So is how did you use social media?
I know you talked about the twoof me, and was that just
something that you was like Ijust put it up and I showed it,
or did you?
Did you edit it a certain way?
Did you use any apps?
I'm like.
I'm like I said, I'm social me.
I'm the psycho for it.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
I love it.
Dad, don't you remember?
You helped me with my socialmedia like forever ago.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Did I.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
I think that's how we met.
You see the grace.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
I'm not the grace in here.
I'm old.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Wait, where did we meet?
Did we meet at internationalSouth Africa?
Speaker 1 (53:47):
You know, no, no, I think it may.
It probably was international.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
I think that's maybe where we met, but you did help
me with social media.
I think you were helping melike grow my page or something
forever ago.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Listen, something about social media.
It's always driven me because Ithink, because it's free.
I don't think a lot of peopleunderstand free.
So I'm going to take your lane,for example, and we're going to
say we're going to talk aboutGucci, we're going to talk about
Fasachi, we're going to talkabout give me another brand.
Dior, dior, we're going to talkabout those brands and we're
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going to think about when theycame up and how they got big and
what they had to do, whetherthey had to get pressed in
magazines or they had to buybillboards or they had to use
papers or word of mouth to getinto the space or something like
that.
Now you have a free, multiplefree platforms where you can sit
back and in the world of amatch, you get Willy Wonka on
(54:43):
you and you could just think ofthings and you could put your
ideas out there and the dollarsare there.
And that's why I feast off ofit so much, because it's like
it's free.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (54:54):
It's crazy, yeah.
And as much as I complain aboutthe squeeze that like I'll use
IG, for example I know you'rejust looking at me like this
motherfucker's gone it ain'teven about me no more the
squeeze that IG puts on you tolike your engagement, and I know
what that's about.
They're like very popularplatform and have hard time
(55:15):
making dollars, so they put asqueeze on you and I always use
Kim as like an example.
Kim is like this person who cancreate something, drop it and
it sells out.
Now, as a business likeInstagram, you're like this is
bullshit.
You know what I'm saying.
She just made millions ofdollars in a matter of seconds
(55:37):
for us.
She did it for free, so theyput a tight vice grips on your
engagement to get you to pay forads, but it's still free and
you can still use it and I lovethe fact that you found a lot of
success off of the platform orTikTok, I should say so I'm
learning TikTok.
My lady's like.
I call her AR15 at TikToksbecause she'll just send them to
me.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
You're not really on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
So I'm learning.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
That's really where the money's at with the brand
For sure.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
You kiss it yourself and influence her.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
I don't really like that term.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
I don't either, but that's what I have to you.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
I always preach impacting and inspiring other
people.
That's very important for meand my business also Just being
able to share the success butalso impact other people while
I'm doing it, you know, throughfashion, but so I don't really
like the term influencer.
Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't likeit either.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
So now, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you're going to do a Targetfan.
Yeah, you know a Target.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Okay, I'm an Amazon fan, really I just, I don't have
time to go shopping.
So Right, you want me to useTarget's Cool, it's just cool.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
huh, it's not like a place that's, you know, full of
hope and dream you just go downand play Target.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
I know a lot of people love Target which.
I see why it's nice there, it'scomfortable.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
It's nice, you know.
Everybody seems to be quiet.
It's not a loud place you gointo.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Walmart.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
There's an ass whooping happening.
There's an old lady screaming,but Target has this.
It's nice in here I'm going tospend some money, but I'll use
Amazon.
Since you're an Amazoner, I'man Amazoner too.
All right, you could choose twopeople, dead or alive, to come
over to your crib.
Celebrity wise this iscelebrity wise Dead or alive,
(57:28):
come over to your crib and y'allcan all just go on Amazon shop
and talk.
Who would you have come over toyour crib to go Amazon shopping
with?
Speaker 2 (57:38):
That's a hard question for me, because I don't
have fun with it though.
Have fun.
I just don't know, are yougoing to do?
Speaker 1 (57:47):
something you got to eat the gummies or you got to
get me through this Somebodywho's wealthy that could put me
on game because we'd be talking.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Dead or alive, though , but I just don't.
I don't like it like a ElonMusk, no See now.
No, the reason behind it isagain conspiracies, because so
you got something on we're goingto talk about that.
I mean, we all know aboutHollywood.
Yeah, we do, we do, so there'sno Nope.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
I'm not going to say too much, but I don't think I
want anybody over my house.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
I respect it.
I don't you know if it wasn'tfor me knowing you, I'm very so
I've had and everybody I've hadin my spot I know.
Other than, if I don't know you, I'll move it from out of the
crib and we'll go somewhere elsebecause I'm really worried
about my energy.
Who comes in here?
I'm sorry that you have theconspiracy and I got the light
up Christmas tree next to you.
I feel like I'll cheat youright now because the light up
(58:43):
Christmas tree is right there.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
No, it's okay, I'm scared of you.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
I'm scared, but is there anything out there you
want to share with the audience,with the people listening?
Because we don't, we're done.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Oh yeah, we did damage, oh yeah, we did damage.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
It's been an hour.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
Oh, yeah, 58 minutes, cool yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
So talk to me, we can talk away.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yeah, talk to me, tell me you know any.
They can find you on socialmedia, your TikTok.
You want to drop all that.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, so my Instagram is by Brooklyn.
Make sure you spell it rightwith the E and a double N.
Yeah, so by Brooklyn.
On Instagram and TikTok mybusiness Instagram is shop
underscore crystals with the Zee, nice.
So, yeah, all my social mediais TikTok, all that.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
You got away without eating not a nann sweet, so
we'll just move on.
I am Thaddeus shade.
This is the double cloud.
You can find me on Instagram atThaddeusshade.
You can find me on Twitter atThaddeus.
You don't be on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
No.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Listen, Twitter is a place of comedy.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
We can make money on there too.
Speaker 1 (59:50):
Twitter is a place where adult content makes money.
You are in the adult, but it isthe place where you can
actually share your opinion andfeel like people really here?
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Wait, do you go on threads?
Is that a scar?
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
No, no, I don't know.
Let me see here, let me seewhat is threads like?
Threads is like.
I don't know, I don't likethreads at all.
It happened and then it wasgone.
You know, it seemed like itcaught its buzz and then it was
(01:00:28):
gone.
But maybe it'll pop back up.
But Brooklyn, I want to saythank you, thank you.
Thank you.
Very talented, very amazing,very dope, the energy special
and I want to thank you forcoming on and just chatting with
me and looking at my reclinerthat I don't let nobody sit in
that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
That's my baby right there.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I care about that damn thing.
No, thank you very much and Iappreciate you for coming on.
Yeah, I appreciate you.
Thank you for having me Peace.
I'm with that shade you got cloud.
Let me hear what it's aboutthat shade.
It said you really different,took a different route.
That shade, if you're cookingup, can we taste it now?
That shade, without a doubt, isthat season of a cloud?
That shade, you got cloud.
Let me hear what it's about.
That shade you got cloud.
Let me hear what it's aboutthat shade you got cloud.
(00:33):
Let me hear what it's about.
That shade, without a doubt, isthat season of a cloud?
That shade, you got cloud.
Let me hear what it's about.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am FadiAshay.
This is Seasonable Cloud.
It is what is it today?
It's Thursday, december 14thand I am up here with my third
(00:53):
interview Now, just so you don'tknow, I've done a lot of solo
podcasts Because that's what Ido.
I'm a weirdo.
I go on rants, talk to myselflike a weirdo.
But, miss Brooke Lynn, is ittogether?
Like Brooklyn, like Jay-ZBrooklyn, new York City?
Do you ever just yell Like you?
Don't yell like a rule, newYorker, I'm walking here nothing
(01:18):
like that.
But I have.
How can I put this Fashiondesigner Brooke Lynn, fashion
designer, nice, okay, how areyou doing today?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm good, I have so much to do, but I'm here.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I know you're very busy, and so let's talk about
you being an extremely, anextremely dope designer, and the
reason we're here right now isbecause I'm always impressed,
always impressed with somebodywho has a talent, takes their
(01:57):
talent, pushes their talentforward and makes it work for
them Right.
Talk to me, I know Shop forCrystals, shop for Crystals,
shop for Crystals is the websiteand that's where people can go.
Talk to me how you get startedin the lane of clothing design.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, honestly, I started my LLC during COVID,
like while the world shut down.
I started my LLC, so I thinkthat was 2020 and from there I
started creating sweatsuits andvelour sweatsuits.
I know y'all remember that backin the day, all throughout
during COVID and stuff, Icreated velour sweatsuits and
(02:35):
swimwear.
And you know selling product onInstagram, and from there it
took off.
I never had to go back to work.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Really, what were you doing before this?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Serving.
I was serving at two differentrestaurants and going to school,
so I had my degree in criminaljustice from.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
ASU.
It seems like everybody figuredout what they could do during
the pandemic, when the heart ofthe pandemic, you kind of
figured out what you could do.
When you went after that Wereyou just chilling at home.
At one point it was like Idon't want to work or the
pandemic shut your job down andthat's why you were at home in
the world of imagination at thatpoint.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, so originally I went to ASU and I graduated in
2018.
And it was like December 2018.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's for the graduation, for the graduation,
oh, thank you.
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So I had my degree in criminal justice from.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
ASU.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And the whole plan was to go to law school.
I wanted to be a defenseattorney.
So I'm still very passionateabout that.
But from there, you know, I wasjust taking a couple months off
, you know, just to prepare forlaw school.
I got accepted to San JudeoConnor.
So okay, I clap a little forthat too.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh, you want support too.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
How can you support that?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, that's fine I like somebody who doesn't clap.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Nobody needs to clap for that shit, Not many people
make it like even get accepted,you know.
So I was able to get acceptedto San Judeo Connor Law School,
asu.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
For some people who don't know like myself kind of
school or something like SanJudeo, connor, but the school
tell me about it.
Why is that school hard to getaccepted into?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's all law school.
I mean, you have to bededicated you have to get the
correct scores.
All of that in order to getinto law school, you feel me.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Got you, so you basically could be like law and
order SUV.
If you wanted to, you can getinto law.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I mean to be a lawyer .
I only have three more years ofschool.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So you know, that's the goal of mine.
Eventually, like once, I'm, youknow, set with all this Set.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
To yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Once I'm good with all of the designing and
everything I do, plan to go backmaybe just to get my just to be
a lawyer and just say I'm alawyer too.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You know that's dope yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So, yeah, from there I graduated, took a couple
months just to prepare for lawschool, and then during that
time, like all throughout schooland college and stuff, I was
serving at two differentrestaurants as well.
Really, you know, that's howit's getting in the bag and
serving a little bit.
So, yeah, from there, both ofmy restaurants that I worked at
(05:04):
closed down.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Because of the bit yeah, yeah, covid.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So from there I was like okay, well, now I'm
unemployed, I'm on unemploymentnow Right, right, right.
When is my job gonna open backup?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So that's why I just taught myself how to sew during
COVID.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Did you?
What type of sewing machine didyou have?
Did you like some old schoolmachine?
I did, I did Really.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
My mom, she okay, my grandma and my mom, they both
know how to sew, so they taughtme, like, I guess, how to like,
just stitch the normal, thenormal way you know, Just real
simple techniques.
And come on, bro, you workingover here.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
My god, winston, they know who.
It is okay, you doing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah.
So they taught me a couplelittle techniques.
So I started sewing on my mom's.
I don't even know, it's like1990, something.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Sewing machine 1990, wait, how old are you?
26, 26, do you yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No, I know, I'm from the.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I was born in the 90s , but I'm just saying like, okay
, at this point it's 2020.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And that's like there's way better technology
now.
You know it's like sewingmachines out there so so sewing
machine have the pedal.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Are they still got those?
Yeah, they all do.
Keep going, keep going yeahthey all got pedals.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So I'm sewing on this , this old machine.
It keeps getting caught.
I'm like ugh, okay, but I'mlike teaching myself how to sew
and I just started creating likejust random little outfits I
don't even know sweat suits andyou know my passion is
streetwear and you know bringingfashion and streetwear into the
arenas now as an NBA designer.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, I want to get to that.
When it comes to yourstreetwear, was there anything
that was like inspiring you?
Were you on YouTube?
Were you on the gram?
Is there a brand out there thatwas inspiring you to get into
the streetwear?
Sewing and needle in stitching,you know, was there?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Not, really, I'm not.
I mean, there's a lot ofinspiration just seeing the
fashion that, you know,celebrities wear and stuff, but
at the same time I try not tolike look at other brands and
compare myself to other brands.
I don't see competition.
I feel like I'm in my own lane,I've created my own niche, you
know.
So I don't really comparemyself to other brands because
(07:12):
we all have our own purpose.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Right.
I'm here for a reason to createmy own lane to get my own
clientele, so I create fromthere.
So you really, you really wereshown by your mom and your
grandma correct on how to sewright.
You took it and basically I'm amovie nut.
So you iron man the situation.
Like you basically started withpretty much just an old time
(07:36):
machine of a sewing and got inthere so like when you're
sitting at the crib and you'resewing, it's 2020 and you're
sewing like was it realstruggles into learning the
process of it.
Honestly, no, honestly, sewingis not that hard like you could
even sew, like it's really notthat hard I'll burn eggs.
(07:57):
I've burned eggs before, so you,I don't know about sewing.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm now gonna have some needlepunches all in my fingers and
stuff.
But go ahead, get to it.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Honestly, yeah, sewing is really not that hard
when you're talking about, like,hemming some pants or something
, hemming meaning taking it up,like making them shorter or
something.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Thank you for schooling me see, there we go.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
No, I just don't know .
Maybe the listeners don't knowthat.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No, you help me out.
I'm just from your world, soI'm all the way inside of it.
So it's cool, keep going,you're good.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, so with sewing, like it's more difficult when
you have patterns involved andyou're trying to create like a
jacket or a dress or something.
That's where it gets moredifficult, versus like sewing a
pillow or something.
That's what I started off doingLike when I was way younger.
My mom was like well, let's sewa pillow you know it's just a
straight stitch, straight lineinto a square you feel me, yeah,
(08:43):
yeah.
So you know, but during COVID Ireally elevated that and I was
able to take a straight stitchinto more Right, right right.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So when you that whole process sounds like a
completing situation, when youlook up and you have like an
idea that you're going throughand it's there in front of you
and it came out the way you wantit, how many times are you in
that process where you're tryingto come up with a sweatsuit or
something like that?
It didn't come out and you justdetermined to get.
(09:14):
There were a lot of times likethat.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean with sewing.
I always tell people likesewing is just a lot of like
learning it's a learning process.
As you're going, you're like,oh shoot, like, maybe this isn't
going to work with thismaterial you know, because
different materials are moredifficult to sew, like sewing
denim or leather.
That's not easy it's thickmaterial leather gets caught up
in the sewing machine, so youhave to find new techniques to
(09:39):
do it properly.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Really.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So it's a lot of research.
I didn't go to school for this.
I went to school for criminaljustice, so I don't have all of
the techniques other people dowhen it comes to like actually
going to school for fashion.
Right so maybe I'll do that too.
Maybe I'll go back to schooland actually study fashion.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Why not?
Why not?
And before I continue, I justwant to tell everybody can you
grab that little nitro gummy?
We're going to keep it rightthere.
Dad, you know I'm not tryingthis, you won't try that, not so
spicy, that's not for me.
Is this an ad no?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
it's not an ad.
I'm like did they sponsor you?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I just want to bring that in and start doing that to
where I can bring in some ofthese.
I have a homeboy that owns PopExotics out there in Mesa and he
has nothing but exotic snacksand chips and soda stuff you
find around the world and I justwant to implement that.
So you won't do the littlenitro, right?
No, okay, you put it down,we'll continue.
I'm going to convince you to dosomething that's on top.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, I don't know about that hot dog either.
That looks nasty.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's not like a hot dog.
It's a gummy hot dog.
It's Oscar Meyer.
Does it taste like a hot dog?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't know.
You wouldn't have to.
You're a vegetarian.
You would have to.
I'm a vegetarian.
I'm not eating a hot dog.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Wait, so you were hold on before we continue with
the clothing.
You know, listen, have youfound some good vegetarian spots
out here, some restaurants inPhoenix, az.
Maybe somebody's visiting orthey're listening.
You got some good.
I'm a plant based guy so I knowyou the vegan, you still get a
little dairy in there.
You got some spots you hit up.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Honestly, I cook most of the time, but when I do,
there's this Thai restaurantright downtown I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It ain't Thai bistro.
Is it no difference?
I don't know, it's right thereby Hannie's kind of.
Oh no, Hannie's is a littleover there, I don't know the
name of the spot though Veganhouse or something.
Oh, I know what you're talkingabout.
Yes, I know what you're talkingabout.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I always get like vegan patai.
It's so good and I'm on it then.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Back to your journey.
At what point does shopcrystals, you know, get into
your head, Did something cometogether and you're like you
know what folks will buy this.
Or did you start when youstarted selling on the ground?
Did somebody, did you noticethe demand being there?
Is that what kicked it off?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, so I actually brought my brand to LA Fashion
Week.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Oh dope.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, and people just I did.
I started with denim.
I did a lot of denim, likeSwarovski crystals.
I only use authentic Swarovskicrystals on all my designs, so
that's kind of where I got myname.
Yeah, because, honestly,crystals like I just needed to
come up with a name quick so Ican make an LLC and start
running business you knowauthentically and legally, I
(12:26):
guess.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Did you get LLC all on yourself, did you?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh sweet.
No see, I'm self taughtEverything I do is me Same same,
but keep going.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'm sorry for interrupting, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, you're good.
So I brought my business to LAFashion Week and people really
loved the denim and everything.
I was selling a lot of productright in LA.
From there I just kind ofcontinued transitioning my
business from denim to swimwearto streetwear, sweat suits you
know the velour sweatsuits.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And now I, like, rebranded my whole business to
just be strictly team gear now.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Team gear.
It's just strictly team gear,so it's no longer something like
you would normally see.
I'm not in a horrible this likea New York fashion week and
then like that I've actually hadlike there's a runway company,
I guess, in New York.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, that they've reached out and they want my
product in LA Fashion Week.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Really Okay.
So let's just as we continue tohave fun.
You now you got to tell me yougot into just team fashion.
Where?
What is that?
Talk to me, Drop it on me.
What is the team fashion?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean.
Nba is really big with fashion,you know, you see, the handle
picks and all that and it's huge, but you never see anything
with the dancers or the hosts oryou know, in the team shops you
never.
You never see anything for thewomen.
It's always the NBA players inthe tunnel.
So I'm like, well, why not Icombine fashion, like actual
(13:54):
streetwear fashion, and teamgear.
So that's my whole goal inimplementing this into the NBA
arenas.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So who in team wise, who you've worked with, I know,
but would you like to share whohave you worked with in the NBA?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I worked with a lot of people at this point, a lot
of fans like NBA fans, NFL fans,yeah, team wise NBA.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
and then we'll move to NFL, team wise.
Who do you work with?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, so currently I am working with the Miami Heat,
the Suns, the Sacramento Kings,the Clippers, the Spurs the
Timberwolves.
Nfl wise.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
NFL wise.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Currently, I've worked with the Raiders and the
Cardinals.
That's major, I mean.
This is all within one year,though.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, that's why I got to take note, remember, this
is just one year.
It happened at any moment.
So what like?
How did that happen?
How do you get with billiondollar businesses?
How does that fall into yoursituation?
How does that happen?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Networking it's all been networking.
I've never paid for an ad.
I've never, you know, put outanything like put money in
marketing at all.
It's all been word of mouthadvertising.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You can't like a four-leaf clover or like a
rabbit's foot or something.
I'm highly favored and blessed.
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I'm always out here just putting out good
energy and wishing others well,and I feel like when you're
doing right by others, you'regoing to be blessed.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So you said you were out here networking and hold on.
I completely agree with that.
Every time I run into you, theenergy is fantastic, it's
positive, you're smiling, it'sfantastic.
So you're going to yournetworking, and did somebody
just say, hey, you know, I wouldlike to do something with that
with the sons, or how did thathappen?
How did that transaction happen, though?
(15:38):
How does that start?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So originally I was outside of the footprint center
selling custom jerseys.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I used to like make these just yourself, just out
there Industry selling product.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So it was actually.
It was when the sons were inthe finals with the bucks.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And that's when it all started.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So I started selling these jerseys.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I'm sorry, I just sometimes I'm doing a random
with it.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm doing random with it.
So you okay, keep going, keepgoing.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So yeah, I was selling these stories.
Fantastic, thank you.
The jerseys with the chains onthe side I know you've seen it.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I have seen it.
I will put it up so people cansee it If they haven't seen it.
You got to see that, but keepgoing, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'll send you the pictures, but there was a tick
talk that went viral.
Basically, I did a photo shootwith this jersey.
I had the adjustable chains onthe side.
The tick talk.
The tick talk got over to weshould have got that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Listen, I want you to know.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I offered the water, but I didn't have the bottle
water.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
She looked at me and she had a frown upside.
You ain't got no what.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Sorry, I'm very picky .
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I need that Fiji, I need the Fiji.
Okay, spring water.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Spring water.
Okay, spring water Got you Okay.
Well, okay, anyway, I got over2 million views Major and you
know I sold thousands of thosejerseys.
So I'm like, well, why not I golike outside and sell them to
like to these fans that arewalking to the game?
So I'm literally walking allthe way around the footprint
(17:06):
center by all these restaurants.
Everybody's outside walkingaround preparing for the game.
So I sold thousands of jerseysoutside.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
What does that feel like to have?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
something before we get to the sales.
How does it?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
feel like to have something go viral that you've
created and it's 2 million viewsand you're selling thousands of
jerseys.
I got to get into.
How did you even handle thepackaging and shipping, because
that, by yourself, seemed like aton of work.
What did you do?
How were you feeling when allthat struck?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I felt good, I'm like damn, finally I created
something.
I mean the valour is beforethat they went crazy too.
So I'm like those were crazy.
It's the valour is because Iwas a shot.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I can't even say it now.
You know, I'm not even going tosay the valour is that I used
to wear when I was younger.
I can't say it because he wasin, you know, he and some other
shit.
I don't want to say what thename brand and nobody to get mad
at me.
But yeah, I used to win.
When I was younger I had thevalour suit.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, so you know, then we brought those back and
these fives and all that.
So the valour is we're verysuccessful too.
But it's like you got to create, continue creating, to sell and
, you know, keep up with thetrends Right.
So you know, I created thisjersey.
It went viral.
It felt amazing Like, just youknow, seeing these people
wanting to wear my product too.
That's a big deal.
(18:22):
So from there I was walkingaround the arena, yeah, sold all
those.
Then I started going to theSun's Games.
A little bit.
I'm like, okay, let me see whatthese fans are wearing.
You know right, Just keep thatin mind.
And then I, actually, a couplemonths later then I was walking
around the arena again and I raninto one of the players
(18:43):
managers.
He was like walking outside andwe just ran into each other and
he's like, wow, I really lovethat jersey.
Can I put it in a fashion showtomorrow?
Because basically them, yeah,literally, it's alignment,
complete alignment.
So I'm standing on the cornerof I don't even know what the
streets are.
Jefferson is something by theway.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Jefferson is something We'll go with
Jefferson and something it'scool yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So I'm standing on the corner literally selling
these jerseys.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You're wearing a million and million players
right there and I'm weiolvo,yeah Right, well而且, I mean
stuffed in like across that teamis just, it's kind of game Open
generous players, makes youolog家 ôn, which is meiolvo and
I'm that I was going to do theLibraries oversize game in that.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I'm like, and I'm like, uhm, I think, attitude of
that game, so it was and takingthe jersey from her and bringing
it into the fashion show thenext day.
Oh, wow so at this point we gotcredentials to the Suns game.
(19:47):
We're like okay, let's make this.
It makes all of them happy,yeah.
So from there I actually justwalked up to the Phoenix Suns
host.
I seen her on the court, walkedup to her and was like, hey,
can I design for you?
I have some like custom ideasthat I want to make for you and
she's like okay, like instantlywe clicked.
To this day we're good friends.
(20:07):
I was just in the Bahamas withher in.
Oxford Like we're tight we'regood friends.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You ain't just gonna mention the Bahamas and not say
how well.
How was the Bahamas?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh, it was good, it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You was having a living life.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
We honestly slept.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
We were there napping on the beat Sounds right.
We were both so busy.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Her name's Alicia the Phoenix Suns host, so we're
tight.
Hi Alicia, good listening.
Honestly I'm gonna say shechanged my life Like that day.
That's the one right there,okay, she changed my life Like
she has, like all of thesepeople staring at her every
single game you know there's17,000 people in the sun's arena
every single game and she wearsmy custom designs on the court
(20:47):
every single game for almost twoyears now so.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Is there a like every game, you make something for
her.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Every single game, literally.
After this, I gotta go home andmake her a jersey I'm annoying
with the claps.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You know what I'm saying.
This is my Mori crowd.
You know what I'm saying.
They get a little ruckussometimes, but they hear the
cheer, they hear the support.
So you do some.
Every game, every game.
And y'all collab on stuff,y'all talk about things.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah.
So she, thankfully, she justtrust my vision and she's like
okay, what you got for metomorrow, you know, and this
week was very busy, so there wasa game yesterday and the day
before.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I know, and now there's one tomorrow.
You know the game, listen.
You look over here.
You see this, what's up here?
Oh yeah, okay, you see whathappened.
Yeah, the game y'all had.
You see the name of thesneakers.
You see the curries.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Were you at the game?
No, I was at home.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Man, I almost tipped over everything and knocked
things over.
Look behind you right there.
Look behind you, see that popright there.
This is Curry Nation.
This is Steffy Nation righthere.
Oh, I'm like, what are we alllooking at?
And it's over there, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I saw the game but, yeah, I was hurt, I was
destroyed.
Wait so, have you been to agame?
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, I went to.
You know, my lady.
We went to a son's game andseen the Warriors last year
around November and yeah.
I'm with Steff Curry in that,so it's OK, Wait.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
so how do you feel about this during my green
season?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's what I'm saying.
So you saw what happened.
Yeah, I was there outside.
It brought a little tear to myeye because I knew as soon as it
happened.
You just knew that my guy wasgone.
He was gone.
I didn't expect all of this,but he's gone.
You know, I'm saying I didn'texpect indefinitely, but I get
it.
You know what happened and whathe's been doing.
It's been a different year forhim, so you know as a fan.
(22:32):
You hurt, but I understand, youknow what I'm saying.
But I also do rule for the sonswhen he not playing the words,
because I'm an NBA nut and I'veseen your work consistently and
all the time.
It's just fantastic.
But I don't want to stop thejourney.
I just so you all.
Do you pull from?
Do you and Alicia pull fromanything when you guys are
coming up with something?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
No, and it's mostly my ideas.
Again, like she trusts myvision.
So it's like well, sometimesshe's like well, I feel.
You know I want to be warmertoday.
You know I want to be morecovered up, so I'll make her
like a blazer.
And you know, I always try toput my client's autonomy first,
because I'm not trying to changetheir style or change who they
(23:14):
are or what they're comfortablein.
I want to make sure they'recomfortable at all times,
especially when you're on thecourt and you're 17,000 people.
Yeah to be comfortable,confident, all that.
So, yeah, she gives me likeideas.
Sometimes she's like, well, Ihave to do something after this,
so let's do something a littlebit more comfortable today, you
know, like a flannel or asweatsuit or something like that
(23:35):
, versus you know, a blazer, youknow.
So yeah, she'll tell me likewhat she's in the mood for.
But other than that it's mostlymy idea From your imagination.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Willy Wonka pops in again.
So when you now you move yourson's your home base, you didn't
build it.
This is what you're on.
How did you get with the heat?
How does that that that trainroll over to Miami in that
situation?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, it's all Are you doing?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
the same thing.
Are you, you know, their hostof the night?
Are you providing them with thesame?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
gear.
Yes, I actually have a collabgoing right now with her.
Her name is Kelly, she is with.
She's a host too.
Oh, nice.
So I've been able to justnetwork.
It's all been networking, it'sbeen social media.
You know the Timberwolves.
I work with them as well.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I'm actually going to Minneapolis this weekend, oh
yeah, so you got to wear aboutfour or five bubble jackets.
I got you, you got the weather,the triple cruise down.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Oh my gosh, I'm from the north, so I know what it is.
But I've been in Arizona for 12years so I've been accustomed
to this weather now.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, your body changes, I'm a little afraid to
go there.
So, yeah, I'm from Missouri, soI definitely know about the
cold.
So you know about going outscraping the ice.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh my gosh, don't talk to me about that.
I moved to Arizona to get awayfrom that.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
You ever had to shovel snow before?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yes, my family has videos of me like offering to
shovel.
You act like I'm not going toask one Can I get?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
can I get one of the videos?
No, can't get one of the videos.
Ok, it was.
I always used to have to do itand my grandma had a driveway.
Now listen, we're poor, right.
So I never understood how shehad a fantastically long
driveway.
I can't get, you know, a decenthappy meal but she had this
drive that extended forever.
(25:20):
So when we went over there, thefirst thing that was can you go
down and get the shovel and goto the drive?
And it was a process, and Imean a process.
So I don't miss the snow at all, I can visit it, but I don't
miss it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I don't even want to visit it.
I'm only going because I designoutfits for the NBA dancers.
They're going to be wearing iton the court.
So I'm going to get somecontent.
See it, you know.
Network.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And then I'm different.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I'm literally there for less.
I think it's like 12 hours onthe dot.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You have like a packaging form.
What's the packaging?
Like you hook up the package?
Would you?
Would you put the gear in?
Do you have like a special boxor anything like that?
You know, you know, you knowyou.
Just you just send a box.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
you know you're selling, you're sending a lot of
product and it gets veryexpensive with how heavy the
product is.
So I tried to limit thatbecause you know I'm not trying
to charge five, six hundreddollars ships and products you
know, so I have to consolidateas best as I can.
But yeah, I still have goodpackaging.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Your materials?
Where are you getting you?
Can you talk about that?
Is it like a like a like asecret?
No, it's not a secret where youget your materials from, how
you figure out what materialsyou're going to use and vendors
and all that stuff.
How you figure that out.
How do you work out a lot ofresearch.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
A lot of research.
You have to buy and testmaterials.
Again, it's.
It's taken me a long time.
I've worked with the NBA for alittle bit over a year now, but
even before that I had to do alot of research and just test
material.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So pressure on you.
When you're designing, do youfeel pressure?
You just, do you reallypressure?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
especially working with the NBA.
They have a lot of deadlines.
So, and their budget and stuff.
They don't get that approveduntil maybe a month or two
before they need the product.
Yeah, yeah, and all of this iscustomized, like 100 percent
customized.
I'm not getting just like sweatsuits or something wholesale.
This is all one of one for theNBA, customized from the, the,
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the straps, the, just everything.
Everything about this productis customized.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I can only imagine.
The research.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, ours.
I barely slept the past likesince June probably.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And never, never, nothing.
Like you be on Tiktok or theGraham, nothing really strikes
you and you sprinkle a littlebit of it here and a little bit
of it there.
Do you get ideas from socialmedia?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure,yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And there's some creators and stuff that I'm like
.
Oh, I really like how theystyled that.
Let me you know.
But I don't look at brands oranything because you know that
that ruins your creativity Right.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So you don't want to like steal anybody's ideas oh
here goes a random moment of whois the best dressed in the NBA.
Hmm, that's hard.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I feel like I'm not going to say names.
I'm really not.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But yeah, there's been a couple of people on the
sun.
I'm like, ok, they could dress,yeah, but this year not so much
OK.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, have you outside of teams and in NFL NBA,
have you done customs for otherathletes?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, my target audience isn't necessarily the
player themselves.
It's more the mamas, the wifethe sisters, the daughters, the
son's fans.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Is it cool to see mom and mom and daughter wearing
your together.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You've seen that a lot.
So I've actually designed forSeidel Curry Lee that's Steph
and Curry's sister.
Listen what I just talked toyou about.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I know you love Steph Curry.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Look at the shoes, look at the pops.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You already know soon , as you heard Curry, I'm about
to ask him can I meet the thirdcousin of the third cousin?
Is that possible?
No, but go ahead yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So I designed for her and her son last year.
So I designed them customjoggers and flannels, so they
were matching.
They were super dope.
Like it's just crazy the amountof people I've been able to
network with just being in theseNBA arenas.
That sounds crazy, you knowthat was just in alignment as
well.
I actually met her mom first.
Really Steph and Curry's mom,yeah, and they're all so dope,
(29:22):
they're so sweet.
So I met her at the game andshe's like, wow, my daughter
would love your stuff.
So she was able to connect us.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That is major, that's cool.
I don't even know what to doright now.
I'm like I'm actually in alittle bit of shock right now.
That's really cool.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Wait, you never seen it on my page?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
No, like I don't.
So the thing about it is, ifyou've seen me, I am a social
media duck.
That's how I make my money.
I'm a nut, I'm a crazy forsocial media, so that's how I
make my duck it's.
I'm always on there.
Yeah, I'm always trying tobuild and I'm always trying to
figure out what's coming aroundthe curve and how do I stay
relevant from the young audienceand stuff like that.
(30:00):
So I'm always on there.
But the way I'm on there, I'malways searching.
You know, I'm always divinginto different videos, marketing
videos, all types of stuff.
So I don't get a chance to seemy own timeline.
But when I lock in and I payattention to what you do, that's
how I see.
But I didn't see the Steffi.
I've seen a lot of stuff.
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I haven't seen the family ofthe Currys, where I can, but I'm
going to, because now I'm like,yeah, I'm running over there.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, it's like her husband actually plays for the
Sun.
Yeah, that's why, yeah, that'swhy, like her mom, was at the
game.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So Okay, so there's nobody in the fashion world that
you would want to meet.
There's nobody you would belike you know what, if I can
meet this person that's in thefashion world or that's in the
same lane, or maybe they own abrand that you may wait, is
everything you have when yourock your own.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
No, I do most like when I go to the games again, I
design team gear.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
So you know.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
But I enjoy wearing other brands too, because it's
exhausting, like, oh, I'm aboutto step out, let me make
something.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
It's so I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's the start.
Does it ever?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
feel like just a straight up job.
Sometimes you'd be like or doyou just because you love it?
You doesn't.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, sometimes when I'm up at 5, am Literally
working all night.
I'm like, oh my gosh, is thisreal life?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
But no.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I enjoy everything I do the traveling, the networking
, just meeting so many people,getting to wake up and do what I
do every single day is bad.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
That's right, I love it.
So again, there's nobody outthere in that world and that
atmosphere that you'd be likeyou know what If I met this
person that's in the same lanesit means pretty bad ass.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Honestly, I would love to meet Tiana Taylor I feel
like her style is fire and Idefinitely get some inspiration
from her.
I'd love to meet her and I'mmanifesting that right now.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
There you go.
What is some of the fits orsome of the pieces that she's
put together, that of you?
Have anything you can just dropto me that I'm going to go take
a look and see what she's just,oh, that's it, it is dope.
Anything she's rocked where youwas like yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Not that I could remember, not that I could think
of.
Yeah, it's like I've beenscrolling on social media and
like, oh, that's fire yeah.
But nothing I can actuallythink of.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You're not in the scams world and I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Not really.
I have mad respect for her,though.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, like as a woman entrepreneur.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's very difficult, for sure, especially in this
industry.
The NBA is not easy for females, right?
You feel me Like you reallyhave to hustle to be noticed,
did you?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
run into some of that , or do you feel like once you
started to get into that process, you've seen that it was a
little tough to get all the wayin the door?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I feel like everything so far has been in
alignment.
That's dope.
Everything has gone verysmoothly.
Yeah, I just take note of a lotof things I witness, you know,
because I'm not an employee.
I have my own business and Ijust partner with these NBA
teams to create custom designsfor their dance teams.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Nice In the host Nice .
Speaker 2 (33:02):
So you know, I just take note of a lot of things I
see and notice.
It's just not easy for females,especially female entrepreneurs
, it's difficult to be takenseriously, yeah, yeah, but
that's why I prioritize mypresence and where I'm at, I'm
very picky on who I surroundmyself with, just all of that.
You have to protect your energyat all times because you never
(33:25):
know who's watching.
For sure.
You never know who's looking.
I'm a businesswoman first.
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
If you got another young lady that comes up to you.
She's in the same world as youand she has some questions you
open, for you know, do you dropthat knowledge to someone?
Do you drop that knowledge tosomebody or to a young lady
that's trying to do the samething?
I know there's a word everybodyuse about gatekeeping and not
sharing, but do you feel likeyou're a person that?
No, I'm going to give you somegame, I'm going to school you a
little bit, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
So I'm always putting people on game for sure on how
to start your business.
You know how to get started as adesigner in just the process,
but I'm definitely not going totell exactly what I do, Because
you know, but it all starts withnetworking and I will always
tell everybody that, likewhoever's trying to start a
brand, especially youngerfemales or even females my age,
(34:15):
whatever if you're trying tostart a brand, it all starts
with who you know and you knowwhat can you bring to the table
Right?
And it's about your energy too,because if you're not here, you
know again doing right byothers, or you know prioritizing
peace and energy and just beinga good person and positivity.
(34:36):
You're not going to get too far, because that's very important,
especially as a business owner.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Would you ever?
I don't know, this is a thing Icould just be shooting from the
hip.
Is it possible at one pointyou'll further in your career,
maybe next year or maybe evensooner you would put together
like your own?
Is that a thing, a lookbook?
Is that a thing that you'vedone for the NBA?
Have you done anything likethat?
Or?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, so it's all on my phone.
I just keep it low key because,like, I share what I want to
share on social media.
You know I don't share mypersonal life or anything like
that, but I do have a lookbookand it's in my phone.
Yeah, just keep that.
Maybe one day, maybe one dayyou put it out, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So is there a next step to so?
But wait a minute.
The average person, could youknow manner, I mean women could
go on and to shop crystals andbuy the same stuff that Alicia
works.
They could just head on and.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
So right now I have my website.
It's up, but I took everythingdown because I just had a
collaboration with the footprintcenter which is the arena
that's on display.
I just did a collaboration withthem.
We did a whole giveaway for theDevin Booker Wolven Hoodie that
I created.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That was literally designed, sewed and themed by me
.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
That is fire.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
You did all that.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, so that the images that are on there were
gathered, created by my graphicdesigner.
I had it printed on Wolvenmaterial.
Well, actually it's literallyweaved the images.
Yeah, and then sewed a hoodieout of that.
I originally did the first onefor Devin Booker's dad.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Really.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
He wore the very first one back in.
I think it was April.
Yeah, he wore the first one Iever sewed and from there I've
been able to just elevate it andnow it has a satin inside, like
the hood in the body, thesleeves, it's all satin inside.
It has zippers so you can getit on easily.
That's crazy yeah.
So we did a collab with thefootprint center.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I mean, how do you?
Even my brain doesn't even worklike that how do you come up
with something like that, thezippers on the side and all that
stuff, how do you?
And then the sizing how do youwork the sizing?
I got so many questions.
How do you work the sizing ofsomething like that.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I mean it's a hoodie, so it's not too complicated
with the sizing.
You know you just takemeasurements from other hoodies.
You know there's templates outthere, so that part isn't
difficult.
I'm all about functionality.
When I design my product aswell, I want to make sure it's
easy to get on, because thewoven material is not stretchy
at all.
So that's why I added zippers onthe side.
(37:10):
That way it just opens it alittle bit to make it easier to
get on.
And then I added satin inside,just because you know people
wear their hoods up a lot andthat's not good for your hair.
The woven material, so makesure to put satin inside, but
yeah.
So the first one was createdfor Devin Booker's dad, Melvin.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
And he wore that one to the game and from there
people loved it.
So I'm like okay, let me likecreate more of these.
And yeah, the Footprint Centerreached out just a few weeks ago
, wanted to do a collab, so wedid a whole giveaway and posted
that on Instagram just last weekand the engagement was crazy.
There was at least 6,000 likes,over 3,000 comments, people
(37:52):
wanting this hoodie.
So I only have that on mywebsite.
That was the whole point intelling you all that.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I want the story that was.
That's amazing.
But when you have to do acustom project like that, you
know it's just you right.
How long does that take you toget done?
Or is it by order, or is it youhave to want a certain amount?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, so I have a team now, back then when I was
doing the last time that was onme and my mama was helping me
pack it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Shout out to my mom.
Shout out to my mom.
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Is everything.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes, so, but now I have a whole team helping me,
you know, especially with thesehoodies, because they are hand
sewn by myself and my team.
Yeah, all perfected.
So, yeah, it does take sometime, especially to actually
create the material itself.
Again, it's all like woven,literally the image is woven in.
So, yeah, it takes some time,but you know, I feel like we've
(38:49):
been able to get these hoodiesout pretty quickly.
I say my processing time isbetween like two to four weeks,
just because most of my productsare custom made to order, so,
but yeah, so I got all the.
I got like at least 15 of themsent out today.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Jesus, that's.
It sounds like an amazingsituation, and then it also gets
thing kind of daunting.
You know, I'm saying when yousee the amount of orders or
amount of people that want it,you're like I'm just saying it's
beautiful.
I bet it is.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It might have been like seeing all that, like I
actually had tears.
I'm like wow.
I work so hard to get here.
Just hustling day and day out.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Are you satisfied?
This is where you'recomfortable at, or do you want
to?
You got more.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Never comfortable.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
What is more, what is more when you want to go next
with it.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Honestly, just keep expanding and elevating.
That's why I always say, likethere's there's no end to this.
There's a million sports fansout there whether it's NBA, nfl,
mlb, it doesn't matter Likeeven high school teams, college
teams.
You know you have to justcontinue.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
When you were a young , young lady is this is
something that you wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's crazy because I never thought I would be like an
actual fashion designer.
But, remembering back, I usedto tell my mom like I want to
design.
They always wanted me to belike have a good job, a good
career, you know which?
That's what they were taught.
So they continued on to teachus to have a good career and all
(40:24):
that.
So that's why I pursued law andyou know I'm still very
passionate about that.
So I do want to continue thatin the future.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I'm not some folks back home that might need you,
so I might have to go ahead andcheer on you going through and
getting that law degree andbecoming a lawyer.
So, family, wise mom's, thebiggest inspiration that you
when you was young was was itmom's?
That was the, the she.
She inspires me, she fuels me.
(40:52):
Is that who that?
That was for you, of course,well both of my parents they
were also entrepreneurs.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Growing up, my brother and I would just be with
my family at all times.
They had businesses as well.
Yeah, yeah, a sports store.
They owned a movie store, apizza restaurant, all before we
moved to Arizona, right?
So I grew up watchingentrepreneurs do that, do, do
what they do, you know, justhustle.
So that was my whole life and Imean you can keep going.
(41:20):
No, you're good, yeah.
So I just my parents wereentrepreneurs as well.
So just taking note, eventhough I didn't know back then,
I was watching them taking noteson that.
Now I'm like, oh, that makessense.
So my dad, to this day, givesme advice on like business
tactics and stuff, because,again, I didn't go to school for
this.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So he's very knowledgeable on that.
My mom too.
Like they're both just verysmart, giving me advice and just
always being there for me.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You gotta support system I do my parents.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
they've been married for over 30 years.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
So that poster for love, that's what you then game
is Finding somebody that you can, you know, go through decades
with.
So Christmas is here, Holidaysis here.
I know things are given past.
Are you a big holiday person?
I'd like to get into you now.
We know that you fire, go,continue to fire.
(42:16):
You know and do amazing work.
You're not a big holiday person.
I'm not treating you to grinch.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I'm not the Grinch, but I'm into conspiracies and
all that.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You just rabbit, rabbit every day.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
That's literally where I listen to all day, every
day, when I'm working when I'msewing, when I'm pressing
everything that's, I'm notlistening to music, ever, I'm no
music at all.
Rarely.
If I listen to music, it'll beone toy lanes or two meditation
music.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Oh nice.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah, so other than that, I'm always listening to
ebooks and you know just yeah,going down the last E-book.
You were you know, I was justlistening to the mountain, is
you?
That's not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
No, I know, but like like a ebook that's.
Was that the ebook you'rejammed out to?
What is that?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Well, the mountain is .
You is all about justself-sabotage and like getting
past that.
You know there's a lot ofthings in life that we don't
even realize that we're doing,that we can fix.
So it's always about elevationin those type of ebooks and
audio books that I'm listeningto while I work.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Nice, yeah, I'm so I'm.
I'm getting more into the.
You too, like my boy, craigvisions.
He's a youtuber.
He's everything that he'sdiving into his YouTube.
Is that mostly where you getwatching?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Honestly take.
Talk is really good for a lotof conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, so you can't talk about it, but Can we, can
we ask about aliens a little bit?
You, you believe a little bitfor sure.
Okay, cool, I won't go nofurther.
Yeah, I'm gonna get some peopleaway, but I'm very
(44:03):
knowledgeable on a lot of thingsthat people don't like to hear
about yeah, um, and we talkedbefore we got on here you don't
do no water, I mean you don't dono coffee, you know.
So, not coffee, nothing likethat, nope.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
So I drink water, spring water, bottled spring
water, I'm gonna remember that.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I gotta take the notes down for that name.
Name a few of your spots thatyou enjoy in the city, like in
your food spots.
I know we talked about the Thaispot uh, vegan hut or vegan
love vegan house.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I think it's called vegan house.
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
I think that's the spot because I order from all
these places because I'm lazylike that.
But um, yeah, give me a coupleof the spots around the city
that you like to go to eat at.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
If I go out I like to go to mass shows or ocean 44,
but remember y'all.
I'll be paying for my own shit,okay.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
You like to spend the duckets that you don't play
about the meals.
I mean, if I'm gonna go out,I'm gonna treat myself.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Right, right, because I work so hard so yeah, but I
always get the Caesar saladliterally everywhere I go, but
they're always fire.
You can not go wrong with theCaesar salad.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
What was something as a kid like you, just that was
your snack, that was your, yourfood.
Do you remember that?
Just you know, maybe you goback to it today, maybe you
enjoy it still to this day, butwhat was a snack or like a food
you just loved when you was akid.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I like chips.
That's something I do.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
You're a chipper, you snack on the chippers.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
I do like chips.
Um honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
No I.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I wasn't always like vegetarian.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
How are you feeling now?
Feeling a little, a littlesnacky.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
No, you try to give me to eat these snacks.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Can you grab the donuts?
What about the donuts?
They're like cool little donuts.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Chocolate sauce.
Oh no, oh, let me show thecamera this time, my bad.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Wait, do I have to make those?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
I love the fact that we just randomly I think you do.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It says make donuts.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh do I.
Yeah, so that means you'reforced to eat the.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I don't make me eat that.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
That's nasty, that even listen, you think I'll tell
you.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Can we turn the camera?
Wait, you're not even on camera, are you?
Speaker 1 (46:08):
No, this is just.
This is all you.
You're the most importantperson here.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
All right, let me take my camera out.
We're gonna post this too.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Well, I'm out of shape, so you can't put me on
camera.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I look at the shape.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
All right, so we.
So just I'm gonna try to showthe people this.
Oh wait, I saw that cameraright now because my other one's
uh charging right now, so yeah,let me record this.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Okay, you could go ahead eat that.
I say hot dog, but does thatmean it's hot dog flavor?
I think it is.
It's upside down.
Oh, is it yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Get away from the camera because I'm scared of the
camera.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Why are you scared of the camera?
It's just artificially flavored, but does that mean it's hot
dog flavor?
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I promise you can, I can you, I promise you you try
it.
Just a little snippity.
I promise you'll love it, ifokay.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
So did you already.
There's one missing.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, there is, I've worked see.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Is good, I promise you.
So it's not hot dog flavor.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
No, I would never do that to you.
That's, that is jackass typestuff, just a little nipple.
No I don't even eat candy Isthere is there wait, is there
like a charity that you can Idonate to, something for you to
do?
What can I do to convince youto enjoy just a little hot, a
little Oscar Myers hot dog gummy?
There's not a kid on earthright now.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
You go give those away.
That's nasty, All right.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I'll let you live on this one.
I'll let you live on this one.
Do you got um In this city, um,you know it's a lot of you know
, it's a lot of nonsense andstuff like that.
But do you got like a good setof homegirls?
You just got like one Bestfriend, that's it like that.
Are you got like a whole crew?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Um, I do have friends , but we're all entrepreneurs,
so it's not like A click oranything, nothing like that is
the whole group chat Justbusiness?
Um pretty much.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, honestly.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, yeah, my girl, right now my closest friend.
She's actually in the eastcoast.
So, but she's a business owneras well, so she just be out
there exploring, travelingfinancially free.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I know you don't like this, no, so you probably would
never move to east coast, wouldyou?
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Um no.
I mean, if I did, it would beMiami.
I guess you could say that'seast coast it wouldn't move to
Miami outside of the hurt?
Speaker 1 (48:38):
No, I've never you would, but you would to move to
Miami, you know.
That's why I really likeArizona.
There's Now we that's it andthat's why I like ultimate that
I want to San Diego.
San Diego is my spot, that Iwould like to hang my cap up, be
old and be wise, next to abeach in San Diego.
(48:59):
But my problem is theyoccasionally have some weather
and some earthquakes.
I do not fuck with here in az,there's nothing.
I just deal with the sun, anoccasional dust storm and that's
pretty much about it.
And so is that.
Would you ever leave az?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I would for a little bit, but not to like, retire
somewhere else, you wouldn't goover to pears and live in pears.
I don't know.
I've never been.
I would love to visit, but Idon't know.
There's a whole different worldout there that I haven't
experienced yet, and I reallyplan to travel more as I I
continue success and become moreand more financially free.
(49:37):
Um, you know, it takes funds toget over there, so Right now I
have a business to run so Ican't go too far for too long,
but that is the goal to travel,even to buy, and all that I love
it sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
You got a business to run and I know that.
The toughest thing, because atone point I was doing shade hats
and and listen, that was a longtime ago, don't worry about it
we needed the lorry and to findout how far I had to go back to
when I was doing that.
But the toughest thing that Ifound when I was doing that is,
you know, when you want to doother things and something is
(50:11):
rolling right, trying to findsomebody to put in place.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
That's my biggest problem.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
I don't feel like you could just go to is it was
indeed, or LinkedIn.
I feel like that's.
You need to find somebody thathas that same type of passion
that you have to know that yourbaby is okay.
You ever thought about that inpart of that.
Finding somebody that it feelslike it's almost an impossible
task.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I mean.
That's very difficult for me,especially with who I work with.
Obviously, I work with veryhigh-end clientele.
You can't just trust anybodyand I have NDAs in place for
everything, yeah, even yeah,ndas in place for everything.
So but it's very hard to findemployees, even now people you
know they want to be a part ofthe team, they want to model and
(50:58):
all that, and I love that.
It's beautiful to see peoplewant to work with me, but it's
also very difficult to findpeople to trust.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Well, what if there's some ladies out there that want
to model for you?
What do they have to do?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
I mean, I mean, you have models, you see, got models
.
Yeah, loyalty is number one forme.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
So, you know I feel like it feels really soprano
right now.
Loyalty, you know.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
I mean, I'm very big on principles in general, like
loyalty is huge.
So right now, my main model,nefia.
She's been rocking with mesince I started my business in
2020.
So, she's been modeling for mesince then Nice.
So you know I'm big on loyalty.
You know, you just got to proveyourself, I guess.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Right, I'm assuming like having a little bit of that
fashion mind and stuff has tobe there.
You feel like you'll always bedoing some sort of designing and
in sewing and you know you feellike that's something that
you'll always be.
You feel like there'll be apoint where, okay, this is
rolling and now I want to dothis, and it's not necessarily
(52:01):
fashion.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, I mean it's all about I know you want to do.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
You know you want to lock folks up or, you know,
prosecute, because you're goingto be a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
No, no, no, no, no, prosecution Okay.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
It's law and order.
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
No, no, prosecution.
Defense attorney.
Nice, nice, okay, okay, I'm onthis.
Did any of these one of them?
Okay, got, no, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
I'm just Keep going, keep going.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah, so I mean, it's all about multiple forms of
income too.
So you never know like, maybethis will work itself and I can
step aside while it's stilloperating in the future and
continue on.
But yeah, multiple forms ofincome.
So you just never know whatthat's going to look like.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
And this is wild Because you get the traffic that
you get.
I'm assuming your TikTok doespretty well yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Pretty good.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Do you make dollars off your platforms?
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Mostly just through sales.
I did try the TikTok creatorfund or whatever.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
I didn't see too much success with that.
Maybe I'll try it again.
I've heard other people make alot from there.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Currently I do have bonuses on Instagram.
Nice, yeah, I can profit onthat.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
So is how did you use social media?
I know you talked about the twoof me, and was that just
something that you was like Ijust put it up and I showed it,
or did you?
Did you edit it a certain way?
Did you use any apps?
I'm like.
I'm like I said, I'm social me.
I'm the psycho for it.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
I love it.
Dad, don't you remember?
You helped me with my socialmedia like forever ago.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Did I.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
I think that's how we met.
You see the grace.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
I'm not the grace in here.
I'm old.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Wait, where did we meet?
Did we meet at internationalSouth Africa?
Speaker 1 (53:47):
You know, no, no, I think it may.
It probably was international.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
I think that's maybe where we met, but you did help
me with social media.
I think you were helping melike grow my page or something
forever ago.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Listen, something about social media.
It's always driven me because Ithink, because it's free.
I don't think a lot of peopleunderstand free.
So I'm going to take your lane,for example, and we're going to
say we're going to talk aboutGucci, we're going to talk about
Fasachi, we're going to talkabout give me another brand.
Dior, dior, we're going to talkabout those brands and we're
(54:20):
going to think about when theycame up and how they got big and
what they had to do, whetherthey had to get pressed in
magazines or they had to buybillboards or they had to use
papers or word of mouth to getinto the space or something like
that.
Now you have a free, multiplefree platforms where you can sit
back and in the world of amatch, you get Willy Wonka on
(54:43):
you and you could just think ofthings and you could put your
ideas out there and the dollarsare there.
And that's why I feast off ofit so much, because it's like
it's free.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (54:54):
It's crazy, yeah.
And as much as I complain aboutthe squeeze that like I'll use
IG, for example I know you'rejust looking at me like this
motherfucker's gone it ain'teven about me no more the
squeeze that IG puts on you tolike your engagement, and I know
what that's about.
They're like very popularplatform and have hard time
(55:15):
making dollars, so they put asqueeze on you and I always use
Kim as like an example.
Kim is like this person who cancreate something, drop it and
it sells out.
Now, as a business likeInstagram, you're like this is
bullshit.
You know what I'm saying.
She just made millions ofdollars in a matter of seconds
(55:37):
for us.
She did it for free, so theyput a tight vice grips on your
engagement to get you to pay forads, but it's still free and
you can still use it and I lovethe fact that you found a lot of
success off of the platform orTikTok, I should say so I'm
learning TikTok.
My lady's like.
I call her AR15 at TikToksbecause she'll just send them to
me.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
You're not really on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
So I'm learning.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
That's really where the money's at with the brand
For sure.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
You kiss it yourself and influence her.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
I don't really like that term.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
I don't either, but that's what I have to you.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
I always preach impacting and inspiring other
people.
That's very important for meand my business also Just being
able to share the success butalso impact other people while
I'm doing it, you know, throughfashion, but so I don't really
like the term influencer.
Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't likeit either.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
So now, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you're going to do a Targetfan.
Yeah, you know a Target.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Okay, I'm an Amazon fan, really I just, I don't have
time to go shopping.
So Right, you want me to useTarget's Cool, it's just cool.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
huh, it's not like a place that's, you know, full of
hope and dream you just go downand play Target.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
I know a lot of people love Target which.
I see why it's nice there, it'scomfortable.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
It's nice, you know.
Everybody seems to be quiet.
It's not a loud place you gointo.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Walmart.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
There's an ass whooping happening.
There's an old lady screaming,but Target has this.
It's nice in here I'm going tospend some money, but I'll use
Amazon.
Since you're an Amazoner, I'man Amazoner too.
All right, you could choose twopeople, dead or alive, to come
over to your crib.
Celebrity wise this iscelebrity wise Dead or alive,
(57:28):
come over to your crib and y'allcan all just go on Amazon shop
and talk.
Who would you have come over toyour crib to go Amazon shopping
with?
Speaker 2 (57:38):
That's a hard question for me, because I don't
have fun with it though.
Have fun.
I just don't know, are yougoing to do?
Speaker 1 (57:47):
something you got to eat the gummies or you got to
get me through this Somebodywho's wealthy that could put me
on game because we'd be talking.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Dead or alive, though , but I just don't.
I don't like it like a ElonMusk, no See now.
No, the reason behind it isagain conspiracies, because so
you got something on we're goingto talk about that.
I mean, we all know aboutHollywood.
Yeah, we do, we do, so there'sno Nope.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
I'm not going to say too much, but I don't think I
want anybody over my house.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
I respect it.
I don't you know if it wasn'tfor me knowing you, I'm very so
I've had and everybody I've hadin my spot I know.
Other than, if I don't know you, I'll move it from out of the
crib and we'll go somewhere elsebecause I'm really worried
about my energy.
Who comes in here?
I'm sorry that you have theconspiracy and I got the light
up Christmas tree next to you.
I feel like I'll cheat youright now because the light up
(58:43):
Christmas tree is right there.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
No, it's okay, I'm scared of you.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
I'm scared, but is there anything out there you
want to share with the audience,with the people listening?
Because we don't, we're done.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Oh yeah, we did damage, oh yeah, we did damage.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
It's been an hour.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
Oh, yeah, 58 minutes, cool yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
So talk to me, we can talk away.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yeah, talk to me, tell me you know any.
They can find you on socialmedia, your TikTok.
You want to drop all that.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, so my Instagram is by Brooklyn.
Make sure you spell it rightwith the E and a double N.
Yeah, so by Brooklyn.
On Instagram and TikTok mybusiness Instagram is shop
underscore crystals with the Zee, nice.
So, yeah, all my social mediais TikTok, all that.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
You got away without eating not a nann sweet, so
we'll just move on.
I am Thaddeus shade.
This is the double cloud.
You can find me on Instagram atThaddeusshade.
You can find me on Twitter atThaddeus.
You don't be on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
No.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Listen, Twitter is a place of comedy.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
We can make money on there too.
Speaker 1 (59:50):
Twitter is a place where adult content makes money.
You are in the adult, but it isthe place where you can
actually share your opinion andfeel like people really here?
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Wait, do you go on threads?
Is that a scar?
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
No, no, I don't know.
Let me see here, let me seewhat is threads like?
Threads is like.
I don't know, I don't likethreads at all.
It happened and then it wasgone.
You know, it seemed like itcaught its buzz and then it was
(01:00:28):
gone.
But maybe it'll pop back up.
But Brooklyn, I want to saythank you, thank you.
Thank you.
Very talented, very amazing,very dope, the energy special
and I want to thank you forcoming on and just chatting with
me and looking at my reclinerthat I don't let nobody sit in
that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
That's my baby right there.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I care about that damn thing.
No, thank you very much and Iappreciate you for coming on.
Yeah, I appreciate you.
Thank you for having me Peace.
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