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Here's a rewind from Season 9 when Neil spoke to Aliia Roza who was trained in the Russian military as a Spy and at age 18 witnessed the horrors of war in Chechnya.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Approject production.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So when you were eighteen, I seen that you were
selected from one hundred, three hundred and fifty students to
join the KGB.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
How did that feel?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Awful?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Was that? Was?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Was that? Your goal?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Is? That?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Is that what you're going? Is that what you're raying for?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I didn't I didn't know exactly what was this program about.
All the students were enrolled in the first you know
course of the military Academy, where we would study just
like basic things like gun shooting, martial arts. Also like
(00:58):
how to open the doors, like all these like you know,
spy sort of gudgets. But it's like kind of like
just technical stuff, like it's not really like way to
put the cameras, how to put like the vier, blah
blah blah, all these like technical things, and of course
a lot of like law, what you're allowed to do,
what you don't allow to do, when you can shoot
(01:18):
with you and you cannot shoot, like all this like
criminal and administrative law rules. So this is like normal
basic education. I've been choosing for this program because they
were looking for you know, certain there were a really
(01:38):
strict condition to get to this course, the sex spanege course.
First of all you have to be you had to
be added twenty five. I don't know why, but I
guess I don't know. You have to be very physically attractive,
you know, like it's almost like a ballet sort of
(02:00):
like school. If you're not told enough, if you're not
slim enough, sorry, but you can't be BALI dancer. We
had to all have like minimum one hundred and seventy
centimeters height, We had to have like men, we had
we had to be very mentally stable, so we had
this all these psychological like tests. We had to be
(02:26):
I mean like we had like genecology also examinations, so
we had to be like sort of like I mean,
be healthy, and I mean they were like what else
single obviously the devotion for the for the mission of course,
(02:48):
and I don't know, it's like it's like really like
sort of like where they choosing like the best soldiers
for this program, and from three hundred and fifty they
chose only five females including me, and we all were
kind of like similar, but it's kind of like different types.
(03:10):
It's almost like you know, like one blonde, one brunette,
one ginger hair. Seriously, like I'm telling you like that's
how we look like. And me, I guess they choose me.
So my my nickname was exotic, so I was the
only one Asian. I know. It's funny. Oh you know,
it's like in a sort of like in the movie
What's the Name with Charlie's Angels, you know, same stuff,
(03:34):
but five the men, so all of us they were
like so different but young, beautiful, fresh, you know, very alluring,
but very dangerous. And I feel like I still come
this way, and unfortunately for me, I want to be
like I probably cannot like men usually say, oh my god,
(03:57):
you intimidate me so much, like I'm freaking out. I
don't know what to say. I'm like, dude, can you
relax please?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Like, yeah, I reckon you would be very intimidated.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I want to I don't want to be like this aggressive, sexy,
like you know, bombshell. I want to be like more
like warm and friendly and all that. But I guess
it's just my aura. It's like inside of me. It's
like how I how I am? It's my nature. You know,
you get what you get. I mean, like you see
(04:26):
what you get.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Well, well, the thing is that you're trained to do
that and subduct So that's probably why you comment over
intimidating because you don't even have to do anything.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You look intimidating.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Oh, I mean you can be only nice to me
because I'll fucking yeah, you cannot do that to me.
And you know I never obviously, you know, I don't
have any enemies. All my axes and I the best
(05:02):
friends like that. I swear to god, I was married
five times with all my husbands, we like the best friends.
They all this, like you're you're the best woman in
my life apart from one who passed away. Unfortunately, you're
the best. I knew you would be. Like what.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I just that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Second season, Neil, you have to make Eventually it will
come the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Like I mean, a.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Spy period of my life. I had another, the most incredible,
the most James BONDI period of my life for another
ten years. So it's another story. What I was saying
is I'm very friendly. I'm very diplomatic. I'm always saying,
(06:00):
like friends with everyone. I don't have any enemies or
or I don't know like any like kind of like
I mean like I don't see them. I mean, like
all my I have like millions of friends. I mean
like friends, like I mean I know them, they know me,
like I'm always nice, we like catch up blah blah blah.
(06:21):
But it's like you know what it's like, it's art
of communication. So they may be intimidated in the beginning,
but when they really like open up and we talk
and I explain who I am, and you know, I
kind of like I I don't really make it in purpose,
(06:42):
but I make sure everyone who have bespected me feel
good about himself. Like you know, it's just sort of
like providing a nice atmosphere where people can also feel
like comfortable with you. So and then we become good friends.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You know what, You've suggesced them and you've got what
you want. Do you get bored?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
This is one hundred percent yes. But I'm not greedy
or whatever like I was. I wasn't asking for money
or something like this, but I yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
But what I'm saying is when you've seduced them, and
you know, because you know how to get a man,
when you've got that man that you want, it's game
over for him. Yes, yes, yes, yes, but it's also
but it also.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Came up for you because you've done the job. Do
you get bored of that?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
No? No, no, no, no, I am I operate in a
different way, Neil, Okay, No suduction. It's it's like a lifestyle,
I seduction. It's art of communication number one. And when
I said, like, you make people feel good about themselves,
and I literally become in any relationship like the best
(07:54):
woman in their life. And that's why we you know,
they never ended up in a bad way our relationship.
It's always was like let's you know, let's still be friends,
let's be in you know, each other's life. They know
I got day back. I know I got day back.
It's something and it's incredible that you know that you
(08:16):
have like you know, you're in a circle of these
people who really care about you. Okay, And of course
you know it's like we always keep in touch and
it's not just like happy New Year or happy Birthday,
but like I just spoke a few days ago with
my uh, with my first husband, and it's just like
(08:37):
we keep friendship. I mean, like all of them live
in different countries though, which is it's.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Just how many countries did you say?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You went to London and London, Greece, Switzitaly, Friends now
US and before in Russia. So seven countries I lived in.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yes, so only five five husbands, but seven countries.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Fun marry again. I'm joking like I hope that next
time the marfore till the.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
End of our life still does I don't know. It's
just I do leave man when I see that the
man he doesn't want to evolve and improve, When I
see the man become sort of you know, I'm a
(09:37):
very ambitious person. And when I see that my partner
reached his certain level and he doesn't want to go further,
I say, listen, I love you, okay, I love you
so much, you amazing person. We had amazing time together.
But I need to fly and do you fly with
me together? Either I have to leave you wherever you
(10:01):
are in this place and I need to fly there
because I have my final destination and I need to
be there. This is my life mission and it's more
important for me than anyone or anything in the world,
which I said to the Charitable Foundation and you know,
raise the awardness for these global problems.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
This is me.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This is why I came to this life. That's why
I'm you know, that's why I leave. And that's why
I share my story and actually I think, like that's
why I survive all this, you know, crazy time. And
I don't want to drugs anyone drop to the destination
(10:42):
where I'm going, you know, because like this is wrong
because everybody has their own agenda, their own goals. If
he doesn't feel this is what he wants, I'd rather
let him do what he wants in his life, okay,
and I'll go there where I'm going. But it's good
to seek at friendship because I don't want to like
pressure someone or like push someone for what you know.
(11:05):
And also I will not take this person and put
on my shoulders and like fly because like the weight,
they'll like push me down and I wouldn't be able
to fly and do things what I need to do.
And that's why when men understand that, and he comes
acround and say, I understand, like what you're doing. I
love what you're doing. You have your you know, support,
(11:26):
my support, your freedom if you need to do it,
that's it. That that's my partner. But I haven't met
him yet, you know, and I know that I will
one day and you know, and then I will text
you as ou nil I did.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
He's very O my God,
Approject production.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So when you were eighteen, I seen that you were
selected from one hundred, three hundred and fifty students to
join the KGB.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
How did that feel?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Awful?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Was that? Was?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Was that? Your goal?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Is? That?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Is that what you're going? Is that what you're raying for?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I didn't I didn't know exactly what was this program about.
All the students were enrolled in the first you know
course of the military Academy, where we would study just
like basic things like gun shooting, martial arts. Also like
(00:58):
how to open the doors, like all these like you know,
spy sort of gudgets. But it's like kind of like
just technical stuff, like it's not really like way to
put the cameras, how to put like the vier, blah
blah blah, all these like technical things, and of course
a lot of like law, what you're allowed to do,
what you don't allow to do, when you can shoot
(01:18):
with you and you cannot shoot, like all this like
criminal and administrative law rules. So this is like normal
basic education. I've been choosing for this program because they
were looking for you know, certain there were a really
(01:38):
strict condition to get to this course, the sex spanege course.
First of all you have to be you had to
be added twenty five. I don't know why, but I
guess I don't know. You have to be very physically attractive,
you know, like it's almost like a ballet sort of
(02:00):
like school. If you're not told enough, if you're not
slim enough, sorry, but you can't be BALI dancer. We
had to all have like minimum one hundred and seventy
centimeters height, We had to have like men, we had
we had to be very mentally stable, so we had
this all these psychological like tests. We had to be
(02:26):
I mean like we had like genecology also examinations, so
we had to be like sort of like I mean,
be healthy, and I mean they were like what else
single obviously the devotion for the for the mission of course,
(02:48):
and I don't know, it's like it's like really like
sort of like where they choosing like the best soldiers
for this program, and from three hundred and fifty they
chose only five females including me, and we all were
kind of like similar, but it's kind of like different types.
(03:10):
It's almost like you know, like one blonde, one brunette,
one ginger hair. Seriously, like I'm telling you like that's
how we look like. And me, I guess they choose me.
So my my nickname was exotic, so I was the
only one Asian. I know. It's funny. Oh you know,
it's like in a sort of like in the movie
What's the Name with Charlie's Angels, you know, same stuff,
(03:34):
but five the men, so all of us they were
like so different but young, beautiful, fresh, you know, very alluring,
but very dangerous. And I feel like I still come
this way, and unfortunately for me, I want to be
like I probably cannot like men usually say, oh my god,
(03:57):
you intimidate me so much, like I'm freaking out. I
don't know what to say. I'm like, dude, can you
relax please?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Like, yeah, I reckon you would be very intimidated.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I want to I don't want to be like this aggressive, sexy,
like you know, bombshell. I want to be like more
like warm and friendly and all that. But I guess
it's just my aura. It's like inside of me. It's
like how I how I am? It's my nature. You know,
you get what you get. I mean, like you see
(04:26):
what you get.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Well, well, the thing is that you're trained to do
that and subduct So that's probably why you comment over
intimidating because you don't even have to do anything.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You look intimidating.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Oh, I mean you can be only nice to me
because I'll fucking yeah, you cannot do that to me.
And you know I never obviously, you know, I don't
have any enemies. All my axes and I the best
(05:02):
friends like that. I swear to god, I was married
five times with all my husbands, we like the best friends.
They all this, like you're you're the best woman in
my life apart from one who passed away. Unfortunately, you're
the best. I knew you would be. Like what.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I just that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Second season, Neil, you have to make Eventually it will
come the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Like I mean, a.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Spy period of my life. I had another, the most incredible,
the most James BONDI period of my life for another
ten years. So it's another story. What I was saying
is I'm very friendly. I'm very diplomatic. I'm always saying,
(06:00):
like friends with everyone. I don't have any enemies or
or I don't know like any like kind of like
I mean like I don't see them. I mean, like
all my I have like millions of friends. I mean
like friends, like I mean I know them, they know me,
like I'm always nice, we like catch up blah blah blah.
(06:21):
But it's like you know what it's like, it's art
of communication. So they may be intimidated in the beginning,
but when they really like open up and we talk
and I explain who I am, and you know, I
kind of like I I don't really make it in purpose,
(06:42):
but I make sure everyone who have bespected me feel
good about himself. Like you know, it's just sort of
like providing a nice atmosphere where people can also feel
like comfortable with you. So and then we become good friends.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You know what, You've suggesced them and you've got what
you want. Do you get bored?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
This is one hundred percent yes. But I'm not greedy
or whatever like I was. I wasn't asking for money
or something like this, but I yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
But what I'm saying is when you've seduced them, and
you know, because you know how to get a man,
when you've got that man that you want, it's game
over for him. Yes, yes, yes, yes, but it's also
but it also.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Came up for you because you've done the job. Do
you get bored of that?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
No? No, no, no, no, I am I operate in a
different way, Neil, Okay, No suduction. It's it's like a lifestyle,
I seduction. It's art of communication number one. And when
I said, like, you make people feel good about themselves,
and I literally become in any relationship like the best
(07:54):
woman in their life. And that's why we you know,
they never ended up in a bad way our relationship.
It's always was like let's you know, let's still be friends,
let's be in you know, each other's life. They know
I got day back. I know I got day back.
It's something and it's incredible that you know that you
(08:16):
have like you know, you're in a circle of these
people who really care about you. Okay, And of course
you know it's like we always keep in touch and
it's not just like happy New Year or happy Birthday,
but like I just spoke a few days ago with
my uh, with my first husband, and it's just like
(08:37):
we keep friendship. I mean, like all of them live
in different countries though, which is it's.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Just how many countries did you say?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You went to London and London, Greece, Switzitaly, Friends now
US and before in Russia. So seven countries I lived in.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yes, so only five five husbands, but seven countries.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Fun marry again. I'm joking like I hope that next
time the marfore till the.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
End of our life still does I don't know. It's
just I do leave man when I see that the
man he doesn't want to evolve and improve, When I
see the man become sort of you know, I'm a
(09:37):
very ambitious person. And when I see that my partner
reached his certain level and he doesn't want to go further,
I say, listen, I love you, okay, I love you
so much, you amazing person. We had amazing time together.
But I need to fly and do you fly with
me together? Either I have to leave you wherever you
(10:01):
are in this place and I need to fly there
because I have my final destination and I need to
be there. This is my life mission and it's more
important for me than anyone or anything in the world,
which I said to the Charitable Foundation and you know,
raise the awardness for these global problems.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
This is me.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This is why I came to this life. That's why
I'm you know, that's why I leave. And that's why
I share my story and actually I think, like that's
why I survive all this, you know, crazy time. And
I don't want to drugs anyone drop to the destination
(10:42):
where I'm going, you know, because like this is wrong
because everybody has their own agenda, their own goals. If
he doesn't feel this is what he wants, I'd rather
let him do what he wants in his life, okay,
and I'll go there where I'm going. But it's good
to seek at friendship because I don't want to like
pressure someone or like push someone for what you know.
(11:05):
And also I will not take this person and put
on my shoulders and like fly because like the weight,
they'll like push me down and I wouldn't be able
to fly and do things what I need to do.
And that's why when men understand that, and he comes
acround and say, I understand, like what you're doing. I
love what you're doing. You have your you know, support,
(11:26):
my support, your freedom if you need to do it,
that's it. That that's my partner. But I haven't met
him yet, you know, and I know that I will
one day and you know, and then I will text
you as ou nil I did.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
He's very O my God,
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