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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apote production.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I was kind of doing it for myself and this
guy walked past and he goes, you're hilarious.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Have you ever thought about radio?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And I was like, with this face, I'm joking, but
I was like, no, I want to do TV.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I want to be an actress. And I was like radio,
that's interesting, Okay, maybe radio.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
So that's when I started going in to see a
guy who's a legend in the radio industry called Rod Bryce,
who is just such a beautiful, kind, amazing man. And
I went in and started doing voiceovers for CFM.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
This is when they're in Southport.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And then he said, Okay, how serious are you? And
I went I'm serious, Like whatever, whatever's going. So I
remember spooking again at the Oasis shopping center on the
Gold Coast, and.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I had a pager like it was a pager pages
and I had like an alert go like Rob Bryce
had rung and I was like, I think it was
tucked onto my belt like a fucking bogan.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Like now it's bogn right. But then I guess it
was cool And I remember going.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
To ring him on a pay phone and saying hi,
and he's like, I've.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Got a job when I went, yep, i'll do it.
You guys, you don't even know where it is, you
don't even know what the pay is. I don't care.
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So it was in Merraborough, Harvey Bay, and I was
the nighttime announcer, the promotions manager, and in the end
I also ended up going on and joining the breakfast shows.
There were two guys, so I get in in the morning,
joined the two guys on breakfast for like an hour,
just helping them feminize what was probably a very misogynistic,
(01:53):
bullshit dick swinging show, I'm pretty sure back in the day.
So from that I got a job doing breakfast radio
in Gosford at CFM and I was twenty three, which
is pretty young to be doing Brecky radio.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But I think a lot more people believed in me
than I believed in myself. So yeah, that was Brecky Radio.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That was interesting because I was twenty three and my
co host had come from a station called three ex
Y in Melbourne, which was a very famous station back
in the day, and he was like thirty five, and I.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Don't know how he got put together. It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
That's what they do in radio, They try and put
the bubbly girl and the guy and they just hope
to fuck God that it's a marriage made in heaven
and this chemistry. And I think I get upset about
my career because I keep getting put with fuck weds.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Sorry, don't Oh should we delete that?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I delete that? Sorry, No, I mean that. What I
mean is no. What I mean is not fuckwds people
that I don't gel with.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
God, I love it, but I get really jealous of
girlfriends of mine who have worked with people that they
adore and they all get along and they support each other,
like Ts and Lauren down at No Over Melbourne, and
you know it's all like, oh, they're friends. So it's like, yeah,
I've never been able to be friends with the co
host because I've always just been parachuted. They call it
(03:11):
parachuting in they get me into kind of gel to
people and save the day because I get along with everyone,
and I'm a chameleon and I can deal with whoever.
You're a misogynist, you're this, you're a dickhead, you're that,
you're funny, you're this.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I will make you funnier. I will.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's called like an enabler in radio so you're like
the middle person making everyone else look good and hopefully.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Looking good yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I get upset sometimes because I think, fuck, I
just haven't had a chance.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
To work with someone that's a genuine friend. And then
you get that genuine chemistry.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And you don't have to bullshit and people can hear
that through this speakers a mile away, and it's magic.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Why do you think you stayed in radio for so long? Then?
If that wasn't if you weren't finding the right that's a.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Really good question. And it wasn't until my last.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Show got axed, that was the Gold Coast at.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
CFM, that I actually went, what am I doing?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Do I even enjoy this anymore? And I do. I
miss radio a lot because I missed that platform.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And I also get messages every day on Instagram, Facebook,
whatever I miss you. I miss you on the radio.
I really related to you because I was very open
and vulnerable and honest. And sometimes it's hard when you're
that person on a radio show and the other people aren't,
because it's exhausting because you're the one that's always giving, giving,
(04:37):
And then the book ends because when you're the cheek
in the middle of the billboard, and then there's.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Two guys on the end.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Sometimes they're not giving, so you're constantly giving, and then
they're not giving, and it can be exhausting, but.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I miss that radio has an immediacy about it that's
really addictive. So I've done quite a bit of TV
over the years, but you know, TV's as you would, Oh,
it's different. They are waiting around and you're learning scripts
and this or I mean, I've done Thank God You're
Here and Beauty in the Beast and all sorts of
shows where.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It is ad lived, but.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
There's still a lot of dicking around, whereas with radio,
the buzz is you get in five am, you have
the meeting. I love being in that moment looking at
your phone. Okay, this has happened. Trump's just have another assassination.
Let's do this, could we do this? Can we do
Let's play that song there, Let's move the comp let's
move that there. This is more you know, current blah
(05:36):
blah blah. And I kind of love the producing and
the being on air side, And after being in it
for so long, I get it like I get radio,
and I get what people want to hear, and I
understand the balance because it's brecky and you've got to
keep it bubbly and fun.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
But people also want to be informed, but.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You can't get too deep because they're dropping their kids
to school.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You've got to keep it pc all of that. So
I miss that. I think that's why I'm on Instagram
so much. My friends are like, God, you put up
a lot of fucking stories. I know, because I don't
have a platform anymore. I don't have my radio show.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Is anything you regret doing on radio? Oh? Fuck?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Heaps?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Was the one thing that you wish you could change?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I want to say there were times when I was
probably too vulnerable and open, But then I don't know
if I regret that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I want to change it because they're.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Usually the times when people would get back to me
and go, like they'd message me and go, thank you
for sharing that you really helped me.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Get through this, this this.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
There are times when I've pushed the envelope or I've
fucked up, Like so I became the Nova national interviewer
for the Big Acts, So they sent me to Tokyo
to interview Madonna with Molly Meldrim and a journal called
Christine Sam's I interviewed like outcast Jerry halliwell Justin Timberlake
because there was such a big network and the big
(06:57):
stars didn't necessarily want to just talk to like a
lot of people, so they'd sort of use me as
their go to and then that would become a nation
all special that they play like on a Sunday night
being Dies with Justin Timberlake or Justin timb Blake's with
some shit had called Banka Die whatever. I definitely wasn't
the star, but I had some funny moments because I
wasn't tech savvy and they sent me.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
To interview Jerry halliwell, of course.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Spice girls, I'm like god, and we all it was
a press conference, so we all got like one question
each and I'm like there, you know, with my little
recorder thing, and I'm like asking you a question. And
then we get back to the station and the audio
producer like messages me or rings me or whatever like
that night and goes, babe.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
There's nothing on here, and I'm like, what.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Are talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's like, did you press like plan record at the
same time, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No, I just pressed record.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
He's like, you've got a press play and record, and
I'm like, okay, you need.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
To set a producer with me from now on.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So I got no audio from the Jerry halliwell, so
all the other stations had Spot Spice Girls, Jerry aliwell
except Ask because I fucked up did it again with
Craig David.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I was like for an interview for Nova and GQ
magazine and I was doing it and I didn't record it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And then we did one with Pink, which was amazing,
and I had a producer with me, but Pink and
I got really dirty, and we're talking about the naughtiest things,
Like we got into this conversation about suction cup dildos
and how you can put one on the fridge and
you can like, you know, make a coffee and have
sex with the fridge at the same time. Like we
were laughing and having the best time, and my producers
like going like in the background, and then afterwards.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Just like we can't use any of that.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You're talking about dildos and anal sex and fucking what
the fuck, there's like two minutes we can play, which
is ironic because now with your abby chatfields and all
that kind of stuff, that would be great radio and
listened to Colin Jact now.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So sometimes I feel a bit ripped off because I
feel like I was ahead of my time and that
I was doing those interviews, but I wasn't allowed to play.
Whereas now talking about a suction cup dildo on the
fridge while you're waiting.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
For your coffee to percolate you can fucking back up onto.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The fridge would be great radio we go viral, but
back then it was like taboo and I just felt
very caged, but understandably so because the audiences didn't want
to hear that.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
But I think the reason why Carl gets away of
it is he is, like you said, his ottitudes, I
don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
He doesn't give a fuck. Well, he's so wealthy now
he doesn't care. I think that's what it is too.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I think he tells the producers what to do. It's
like I'm fucking doing it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
There's no one boss like so, so they've now done
something which is unheard of in the history of Australian
radio sort of. I think maybe maybe Mick malloy and whatever,
maybe they did it too. I don't know, but they
it's their show and kiss lease the show.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So they're like contractors, so they don't own the show,
which is kind of dangerous because you can end up
eating your own dick in that situation, because what happens
is there's no one that's got the balls to tell
you that things might not be going well because they're
all on the payroll.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
So when everyone's the payroll, everyone's going to say yes, sir, No,
so three bags full, sir. You need someone that's going
to go, hey, love you. I know you're paying me one.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Hundred and fifty grand, but that interview is shit. We
need to do it again. No, everyone's too scared to
say anything.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
So I think that can be a detriment in some
ways because you still need to have your feet on
the ground and remember that you're talking to real people,
and you still need someone there to go that wasn't
your best work. I think we can do it better,
you know, And I think a lot of people are
probably too scared to say that because these guys have
just elevated themselves to I mean, there's been nothing like
(10:43):
it in the history of radio. It's like even Hami
Shnandy and all of those guys. I mean, but they're
very humble, They're very hard working. Humble guys are very
different to Colin Jack. Not saying that Colin Jack aren't
hardworking and humble, but it's just a different beast.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
These guys have kind of rewritten the rules.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And what's scary about it is their pay is eaten
up so much that there are so many people out
of work now because they have to pay them.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's not a great it's not an ideal situation for
the industry, but great for them to own.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Their twolve million dollar houses.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
In book clue, I'll just live in the spare room, Jack,
if you've got I'll live in the basement.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
If you need me.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
TV would you go back to TV?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I love TV.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Because I did take notes of all the TV shows
that you've done. So you've done Today Show, Some Rights,
Morning Show, and Contestants on Contestants on This Celebrities, Dog School.
I've seen the dog School that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Was such a fuck up. Ready Study MDA and it
was a disaster. It got booted after six weeks. It
was terrible.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I seen Ready Steady Cook. What's that one? Thank God
you're what?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Thank God you're here.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
You thank God, you're here.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That was amazing. It was big stars on that, like
Fiffy Box and Sean macaliff and whatever. And for me
to get on that was a big deal because American
rousso hadn't even been asked to go on that.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And I got asked. And I remember seeing Mark in
the corridor and it was like, you're going, oh, thank
god you're here. And I was like yeah, He's like, oh, fuck,
haven't asked me. And then next minute he's on it.
And I never got on it again, but I nailed it.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
If you YouTube be and God die, thank God you're here,
I can proudly say now I nailed it. Was it
was funny, but it's improve and it's scary.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
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