Last Action Hero: Production Notes - Post Production & Premieres - See You at the Poddy, Richter! - An Arnold Schwarzenegger Movie Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello and welcome back to see you at the Potty Richter.
My name is Chris Chapman, and joining me as always
are my co hosts Aaron Frescus and Joseph beck Castro.
We also have with us our very special guest, Erica Shasky,
who is going to join us as we continue our
coverage of Arnold's nineteen ninety three cult comedy caper Last

(00:36):
Action Hero. Is it a cult comedy? Probably not, but
I like alliteration. Anyways, Today we're gonna be taking a
look at some more production info, so I'm gonna throw
it over to Erin as he tells us some very
interesting things about the movie.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Erin, Alady. So we left off as they were finishing
up the reshoots for Last Action Hero and we're about
to move into post production, with director John mcckiernan saying
they had such a short amount of time for post
production that it's quote largely unedited and large portions of
it still appear exactly as it was when it left
the camera. Damn yeah, damn yeah, also saying that it

(01:12):
needed tightening and probably another month in editing to tighten
up the film. But yeah, I'm beginning to think there
wasn't any director who could have made that schedule work.
And I say that because one of the criticisms from
Zach Penn and Adam Leff had to do with John
mcterernan directing the film. So I guess while writing the
original draft they pictured a director that could handle the

(01:33):
like the comedic slash satirical aspects.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Of the script.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Basically they mentioned Spielberg or Robert se Mechis. They especially
mentioned Mecchus to mention, especially mentioned the Mechas like they
thought he would have nailed it, and like I recently
rewatched Death Becomes Her and I'm just like, man, this
it's just a good Like I know that's more horror satire,
but like he's very good at like the genre stuff,

(01:58):
Like yes, but like, do you guys think that, I know,
it's like kind of like a pointless question, because I
know Spielberg is known for bringing stuff in on time
and good. Like basically, anyone that could have brought it
in on time but also made a film good enough
to where the fact that these assholes are hyping it
up so much would have been good enough to where
the critics can't ship on it like.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Maybe Silberg maybe, but like the thing is, Spielberg wouldn't
allow it exactly, like he wouldn't get pictured around like exactly,
so not that mcer got like pushed around exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Kind he kind of hes he basically said he kind
of did, like okay, so like there's no way that
Spilberg he would have basically made them push the movie
yeah or the date. Sorry, yeah, and they wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
They would have been too afraid to fuck with him too,
like that once production was started. He yeah, if they
fucked with.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Him, yeah, yeah, so maybe Spilberg, like I don't know,
maybe maybe he's Macas at that point too, I don't know. Yeah,
the Micro's was big like he did Forrest Gump.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
He had just finished that.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah a couple of years ago, right, yeah,
death becomes her and then I think, uh uh yeah
back to the Future three before that.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah yeah, but like so he's big enough that he
probably but again, he wouldn't sign on on such an
accelerated schedule. Like That's what I'm saying is that, Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Anyway, I'm sure like even an experienced producer could have helped,
because like that's who usually charged to keep like the
timing the movie and everything on track. Yeah, but apparently
Joe Silver, who's like a very experienced action movie producer,
wanted to produce the film but was told no, supposedly
due to good old Columbia Pictures cherman Mark Canton not
wanting to quote share the glory. Holy fucking shit, Like,

(03:37):
who knows if it would have made a difference, because
he had a ton of experience. He produced forty eight hours, Commando, Luther, Weapons,
the first three of the Lead the Weapons, Roadhouse, die Hard,
and both the Predators in kindition, like there's a bunch
more but yeah, like he ended up doing a demolition
Man instead, which is a fun movie that's good, but
I'm sure they weren't trying to rush shit and yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
And also an action satire but whatever.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, anyway, as if things weren't bad enough for Columbia,
a little less than two weeks before the film's released,
the Los Angeles Times printed an article titled Phantom Screening
you Haven't Heard the Last about Action Hero, which claimed
that Columbia held a second test screening for Last Action
Hero in Pasadena in order to test the reshot scenes
even citing several anonymous sources that confirmed being part of

(04:19):
the audience. Of course, Columbia denied it, and the stupid
part is that they weren't lying this time, but at
this point pretty much no one believed them after the
stupid shit they said about the first screen. So Variety
ended up reporting about it a week later that there
actually was a film that was test green in Pasadena,
but it was actually A Rising Sun, which stars Wesley
Snipes and Sean Connery. So I mean, I can see

(04:40):
how they mix the two films up. You know, Austin
O'Brien or Schwarzenegger, Wesley Snipes, Sean Connery, you know it
just yeah. Variety article also mentions other rumors surrounding both
Last Action Hero and Jurassic Park, one of which.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I found it interesting.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
So apparently there was also a rumor that, since Spielberg
left for Europe so quickly after Drastic Ark to start
Schindler's List, that George Lucas was quote really responsible for
the editing of Jurassic Park, thus explaining the film's hard edge,
which I thought was funny. But it just continues saying
that had Spielberg been more involved, the dinosaurs would have
been a kinder, gentler species and some of the stunts

(05:16):
would have been less horrific unquote. But I figured like
the whole kind of gentler dinosaurs things would have happened
if Lucas was involved, Yeah, because I had the two
of them, like between George Lucas and Spielberg, George Lucas
is really the one with like the darker like yeah,
what do you like like vision of movies?

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Like yeah, talking about kinder gentler dinosaurs. Are we talk
in lamb before time?

Speaker 6 (05:36):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Just like if anything there would be like a seed
bed cgi dinosaur like singing like a song like a
like yeah, like the Jedi Java scene.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
The bottom and then they they bie him and then
they apologize. What's the deal?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
There weren't been a lot more like that clumsy raptor
ship that happens in the kitchen a little bit like.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
When the directors would start talking like in like in
Jurassic Park three, and then.

Speaker 6 (05:59):
They just instead and apologize.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Starts singing the song like like where the raptor hits
its head on the reflected surface or where it's like
slipping on the freezer floor. There would have been way
more of that ship.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I don't know, but yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Which if anybody is out there trying to give credit
for fucking George Lucas for editing your exactly like George Lucas,
I mean, you know, he made fucking uh an American pie,
goddamn American graffiti, American graffiti, thank you, like.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Georgia is American, American American.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
But like basically Star Wars became Star Wars in like
the editing room mark his first wife is mentioned, not Marshal,
that's that's she's from the Simpsons, Chris, like Marcia Lucas. Yeah,
that was like that movie got saved in the editing room.

(07:05):
So I wouldn't George Lucas like his ideas and his
world building and everything exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, man, the editing and so.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Much an execution.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well at this point he was actual ninety three, so
no one had the first You don't have the first three,
like those those prequels yet, Yeah, they're like what he
only directed. He only directed the first one. Yeah, and
then he didn't even write the rest of them. Right, No,
I don't think no, no, no, no, for for the
first three Star Wars like the eighties Yeah, he.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Definitely wrote the second one.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I don't know he wrote the second one. I thought
Lawrence Kasdan wrote.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I thought the scripts were written by somebody else, but
I not sure.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Remember Kasdan directed the no acond one.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Richard Even I haven't.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yes, Irvor Cash. Yeah, anyway, Okay, as far as Last
Last Action Hero, they may not have held a second screening,
but regardless, Columbia decides to make you another genius decision
by telling the La Times that unless they agreed to
never publish any pieces by the author of that fantom
screening article that mentioned the studio, they would completely cut

(08:20):
off the paper. No interviews, no advertising, nothing. They gave
the paper something like a week to confirm that they
would they would do this. Of course, the Los Angeles
Times refused. They're like, fuck you guys, basically calling their bluff,
which worked because a week went by with neither party
backing down, but nothing happened. It basically ended in a stalemate. Wow,
so they just made Columbia look like a bunch of
fucking yead assholes like which was great because that was

(08:44):
leading up to the week of the film's release. Yeah. God,
so Last Section Year ended up having its Hollywood premiere
on June thirteenth. Columbia spends five hundred thousand dollars on
his premiere, inviting twenty three hundred people, and they pulled
out all the stops for the premiere party, bringing their
Arnold balloon, even recreating the Hamlet set for the move
from the movie and having the Leo the Fart dummy

(09:04):
hanging from a crane hook. Both Shane Black and Zach
pan attended the premiere and did not like what they saw.
Was Shane Black telling Empire that nobody was really talking
about how bad the movie was. They were kind of
just like chit chat, but like nobody nobody would mention
the movie, and then Zach Penn saying that people kept
coming up and be like, did you write all those
fart jokes? He's like no, as well as asking him
like why did you have the kid thrown off the

(09:25):
roof at the beginning sequence? Mike, it made my kid cry.
He's like, I did not write that. So yeah. There
was also a story which I don't remember if I mentioned.
I know I told Erica, but like of Zack Pen
and Adam left doing that interview for uh, I don't
remember the podcast that I was talking about. But uh,
the the host ends up saying that he was he's
an older Hollywood guy too, but he was at that

(09:47):
premari He's like, I like the movie. I know you
guys don't like it, but I liked it. And then
they were like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Wait a second,
what and then they started to like this was like
with four minutes left in the podcast. They're like, no,
they're not going to get into it.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I'm like, god going to get into it.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
And he's like like no, He's like, we could probably
do a whole other episode about that. But I liked
when I watched it. I thought it was hilarious. I
love the movie. And they were like what, and which
I get because they're so close to it, but yeah,
sure it was one of their friends that they'd known
him since then. But anyway, Arnold, though he was still
in promo mode, telling whoever like quote, I've turned out

(10:22):
another great movie and everyone seems to love it. And
the critics have already said that it's going to be
a great summer hit unquote, and he's going to be
kept proven wrong soon with that.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
On pretty much on almost every count.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
So yeah, the same weekend Last Section had its premiere.
Jurassic Park opens in theaters specifically on June eleventh, and
went on to make a record breaking fifty point one
million in its opening weekend, a record previously held by
Batman returns Are a year prior, which was funny because Jurassic
Park would hold that record for about a year when
it was broken by Batman Forever, which later had its

(10:54):
opening weekend record broken by The Lost World. That's funny,
which for some reason it didn't continue with Badman and
Robin but whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Weird.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, well, try to.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Look into that.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Restic Park ends up roasting Dressic Park grows eighty one
point seven million by the end of its first week.
She's eventually reaching one hundred million in a record nine days.
And I guess it goes without saying that when Last
Secretary was released the following week on June eighteenth, that
it did not take the top spot at the box office.
It did open number two, making fifteen point three million

(11:30):
its opening weekend, which just about covers Arnold's salary.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
For the movie.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
So I guess you got that cover releast right.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, Yeah, that's why Arnold's always positive. His shit's always exacted,
you cover in the salary.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
It was a decent opening, but unfortunately it fell short
of the twenty million it was projected to do for
its opening weekend. Hey guys, let's take a look at
that top ten. All right, anybody want to go over
the top movie?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Uh what? Nineteen ninety three? Yeah, I'm sleeping with the
enemy close.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
There was Jurassic Park.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
The Hands, the Hand that Russ Cradle number two.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
That that actually have a reference for in here, in
here as well. Jurassic Park made thirty eight point four
to five million, so over two and a half times
the amount the.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Last secon hero made.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Jesus.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Jurassic Park would keep the number one spot until the
firm knocked it off. Knock it out, I guess, like
a couple of weeks later. Really the nineties, Yeah, the
fucking nineties. Tom Cruise, he was hot. Last Action Here
was number two. Cliffhanger was number three. Hell yeah, made
five point six million. That was Sylvester Saloon, John Lithgow,

(12:41):
which I know I've seen, but I think I just
saw that one time when my dad rented it way
back in the day when I probably shouldn't have watched it.
Eric is like yep, And that was actually in its
fourth week of release, which I was surprised by.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Interesting, Yeah, because it was really hanging in there, you.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Know, damn it?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
No, I mean yes. But also now.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Number four was What's Love Got to Do With It?
Which made three point six million, and that was two
weeks in. But which starts Angela Bassett and Laurence Fishburg
Fishburn Fishburg as Tina and I Turner. I'm not sure
which one played which, but.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
That movie always look like a TV movie to me.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, it's a very I've never seen it, but I'm
it's probably just like a high production, you know, like
those those all.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
These Temptations or something.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
See the Temptations. It's good.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I was literally at a bar tonight and the Temptations
is on. It is always he was on VH one, the.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Only place place.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, it's the only place place is always on. It's good.
It's obviously gets like enough viewers to where they're constantly
playing it.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I think the only reason I think of it as
a TV movie. Sorry, What's Love Got to Do With It?
Is because Laurence Fishburne looks kind of ridiculous. I should
say Turner looks kind of ridiculous. Now I want to
see what he looks with his afro and mustache.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
You're talking about famed sanfrd Cisco San Marcos resident until
he died, Ike Turner.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, they they both were nominated for Oscars for the performances.
I don't know how they lost to but I think
get the kind of time. I looked that up.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Number five.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
What's Oscar's got to do with it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Good, number five Made in America, which made three point
five million, was in there for four weeks. That was
Woody Goldberg and Ted dance Head Dancing, Yeah, which I've
never seen and wasn't sure what it was about. But
I had the IMDDB description here, which I would send
you guys. But I'm reading off the iPad. So if
if Joe or Chris want to look up what that
that little IMDb description is and wants to read it

(14:38):
for us, because.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
It is all right, I want to read this.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
So that the one with Lisa Bone too, it might
be it might be I don't remember.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Wait, have you guys not seen this?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
No, I don't think I've seen me in America.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
No, I know what it is and I remember it
coming out. But again, I think this was right around
the time of Ted Dance did that blackface thing. I
don't know about the blackface thing, which Woopi Goldber to
put him up to it. He did add like a roast.
He did like a black face at a roast around
this time. Jesus they were dating. Oh yeah, and it
was like there's pictures of of you can see, like
if you look up Ted dancing black. Do you know

(15:12):
whose roast it was? I don't remember it was.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Made in America. A young black woman discovers that her
father was a sperm donner, and if that weren't bad enough,
he's white.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Which is weird because I'm like, wait, is Ted dancing
He can't be the sperm donnor.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah he is, That's what I'm saying. I think Lisa
Bonet is the daughter.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Oh so that's the young black woman. Whoopy Goldberg is
obviously not the young black woman.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
That's where I got confused.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
So okay, since uh.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Light skin, so okay, yeah, I think it was Whoopy
Goldberg's roast.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Oh oh yeah, okay, that makes sense. Are you looking
at the picture of him in black face.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I didn't. I haven't seen the picture yet.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Okay, yeah, he got ship for that for sure.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh ship, Will Smith's in it, yes, Ohriguez and Jennifer Tilly.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Jesus, it's like it's like it's like early thirties, like yeah,
this is like, oh, this is like minstrel show ship. Yeah,
like holy Ship.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
They did that on the Little Rascals back in the
day too.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, but that was in the thirties. This was nineteen
ninety three. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, Nea Nei Long Neolong's in it. Neolong I believe
is a daughter.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Wait really, so she's the main Oh is it not Lisa?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
But I don't see Lisa. But it's either her, Jennifer Tilly,
Earl Smith is a daughter or.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Probably alone?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Probably okay, okay, okay. So then number six is Guilty
as Sin, which made two point seven million, was in
there for it's been in the theater for three weeks,
which was a legal thriller starring Rebecca de Mornay or
is I called her when I was taking her to
Rebecca to Horney because it was so funny to me,
and she's high. I don't know Erica's boyfriend Don Johnson.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, Erica.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Loveser Don Johnson. I don't know, n C.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I can't blame her, that's not Wait, which which one
was Don Johnson?

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Oh no, you're I'm thinking of what's his name?

Speaker 5 (17:14):
H C.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Mark Harmon? Yeah, I get those two mixed up.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
So I I I've talked about my dad's best friend, Doc,
who isn't like a lot of ship.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
You know, yeah, the stuntman.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, and I remember when I graduated college here, I
was talking to him on the phone. He's like, yeah,
oh yeah, No, I was in a little show up
there called nash Bridges like San Francisco is like, yeah,
this is like stuntman driver for that Mike, Yep. That
happened here, I think, I don't know, but apparently happened
because it was it was Don Donson and Cheech Sparrin.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, teach me.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
But as far as Guilty of Sin, it's probably the
only one that I haven't heard of, because I've heard
of most of those. But it seems like one of
those like erotic thrillers that they were super popular in
the early nineties, which I think Rebecca to Morning like
that's what she's hand cradle is.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
She's a lady from.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
She's in Three Musketeers.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
He's like Tom Cruise movie.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yes, she's in that Risky Business.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, Risky Business.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Which was a female layer takes on an accused wife
murder as a client, but finds herself morally compelled to
betray him. One weird another sounds sexy anyway. Number seven
was Dave, which made two point five million, and that
was seven weeks, so that had some staying power right there.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
That's the one with Kevin Klein where his brothers.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
That's right, he's yeah, it's Ivan, right man.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, his brothers.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
No, it's not his brother. He was just a random
asshole who happens to look exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Like the that's the president. Yeah, yeah, and the.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
President apparently that's good.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
I like it like a Prince of the Popper type kind.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Of note here says I think Chris likes this movie.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I've only seen it like once twenty five years ago,
but I remember like me too. I think I have
a soft spot for Kevin Klein.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I just don't existed. I don't know if I've seen
the whole thing, but it might have been on like
HBO at some point and it was just like, that's
an interesting do you remove?

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I used to talk when you before?

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Before, Yeah, it's removie, will watch you?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
And then I just don't watch it.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Number eight was Once Upon a Forest, which made two
point two million that that also opened the same weekend.
But that was an animated film.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
A Forrest Gump in a fantasy.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, it was an animated film that seems like something
that Erica would have watched when she was a kid,
Like it definitely seems like it was. Hanna Barbert is
a final film that was released like theatrically, but it's.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
About it sounds like something that would have watched.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, it looks like a uh, what's the guy? Because yeah,
Don Blues movie, it looks like the looks like Don
del wise continue with that, Don Blue, did American Tale
Lamb before Time Toaster?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Or is that nobody else?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Disney Swamp Pricess.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Probably like any any movie that any any popular animated
movie in the late eighties early nineties that wasn't Disney
was Don Blues.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Basically that's what yeah, nickname for my.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Butt when I get sid Don No.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Jesus Christ, Don Blue, No Swamp Princess they gotta protect
her buttles are her Apparently.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Once Monifors was a young mouse, Mole and hedgehog wrisk
their lives to find a cure for their badger friend
who's been poisoned by men. So you know those movies,
Those movies aren't going to do well, just like any
sort of.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Like I thought it was going on, like a Secret
of Nim which was that Don Blue too? I think
they was.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
See heard of the Nymph. I believe that it's a Skinemax.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Special, that's Secret of Nymph.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, I know that's what I said.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
You said Nymph said.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Well, I mean Nyph. So sorry for any So nineteen
nine skine Max starring fuck who's the goddamn it?

Speaker 3 (21:18):
All right?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
It was Channing something, not Shanning Elizabeth. But there was
some chick that was in all the Skinemax movies back
on day.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Okay, I didn't watch those unfortunately. Yeah, I was too
busy with that scrambled porn. Yeah, we didn't.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Have purple Titty.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Didn't pose it, you jerk off to it. Didn't take
my pose it. No, you gotta record it so you
can rewind it then pose it on the boob.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Okay, see, you were way more advanced than me, as
I mested before, I just recorded the sound on my audio.
I had a talk boy, my top boy. I was
all into stereos and ship and then I record the
fucking softcore porn sounds and then I fucking have it
on a tape and listen to my fucking tape deck

(22:04):
and beat off to that. It was a fucking struggle
back in the day.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Okay, Well you kids.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Listening now, just think how good you got it when
it comes to porn.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I really wish I had that tape that VHS table
still because it had like scrambled porn on it. Jamie
Lee Currs stripping from True Lives. Yeah, and then random
scenes like maybe like Jennifer love Hewitt in the show
where like like something that got low cut and I
was like, well that'll work for me. She just looked
kind of deck.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
You can't hardly wait.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Commercial that that probably did something like I don't know,
just like random ship recording. It was like a horny
TV recording from.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
The fucking ESBN two and they're like, hey, girls, we're
gonna work out this morning, you know, and they're all
in their fucking workout suits and they're doing like jazzer size.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
And shit, oh the beginning show where they're jumping anyways, Okay,
so number number nine was Menace to Society, which made
two million.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Oh and that wasn't there be for It's a great fucking.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Movie that was starting Larentz Tate Samuel Jackson. I think
that was one of the few of like, sorry, anything
I was writing right here sounded a few of those
type of movies, which I was like, what do you
call those type of movies? Like it's a very specific category.
It's like, uh, boys in the hood like juice, Like
are they like it's not like a comedy because you
call like Friday is obviously a comedy.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah, but like is it like a like a coming
of age type?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I get yeah, but it's it's very like a like
I want to say, it sounds like a white white
people saying like yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
The description was, uh, a young street hustler attempts to
escape the riggers and temptations of the ghetto in a
quest for a better life. I never I've watched that one,
but those movies are always good.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, I know that that was like my shit because
that was like the biggest fan of Easy back in
the day. And funny story, I was thinking about this
like three days ago of being my brother being huge
fans of Easy around the time, you know, we're like
eighteen or whatever, and he's like, yeah, you know, just
like someday I hope to meet up with Eaz and
like him and I will not will not do anything.

(24:06):
Big was go like rab a liquor store or whatever
and then goat chill and ship. I'm just like and
me at that time, I was like, yeah, that sounds fine.
I don't know, but yeah, there is that specific g
of movie and if you say like urban or whatever,
and that's just a almost a dog whistle for.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, there's no way to say it without sounding I.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Can't think of I think like I couldn't think of
it anything anyway. Number ten was Life with Mikey, which
I just love. That's one point three million Michael Michael J. Fox,
Christina Vidala, and Nathan Lane and it's Michael J. Fox
is a former kids star that's like a kid's talent
agent now. But it's just a I like that movie.
It's just a it's like a nice movie. I don't know. Yeah,

(24:52):
it's fun.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think it's fun to watch Michael J. Fox play
like a total asshole.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, he is like the antagonist in protest, he's a
missing Yeah, there you go. But anyway, so I guess. Supposedly,
in the days leading up to Last Section Hero's release,
Arnold had correctly predicted that the movie would underperform at
the box office. This is according to director John McTiernan,
who said that Arnold based his prediction off of polling numbers,

(25:18):
which were not good.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I don't know they did polls about that.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, So apparently, heading into the week of its release,
the studio had conducted audience polls that revealed only twelve
percent of the people surveyed said that Last Section Hero
was the movie that they were most looking forward to.
That sucks, But that was only like compared to thirty
eight percent for Jurassic Park. But like, that sounds low
to me too, though, I don't know. I'm curious what

(25:42):
these people were waiting for.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
I don't know what were the other things they were?

Speaker 4 (25:47):
What else came out?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Oh that once upon a force came out that weekend,
so that I guess you got me. I don't know,
or what was what came out the week after Dennis
the Menace. That's what they were looking forwards.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, but yeah, whatever, like that's not a big deal
because Last Section Hero ended up kicking off the week
of its June eighteenth release by finally seeing it jump
in their numbers on that Monday, the fourteenth, where they
went from twelve percent to sixteen percent, which thankfully was
due to the fact that audience polling numbers typically begin
to improve as you get closer to the release date,
like you know, like as anticipation.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
For the movie builds or whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's fair.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, I've actually experienced that, like like a smaller version
of that with the comedy shows because the usually end
up stressing out about the ticket sales leading into the show,
like the week of the show, but there's usually almost
always like a big surge like starting like two to
three days before the show date, basically as people start
figuring out their their plans for the weekend. It happens
almost every time anyway. Unfortunately for Last Action Hero, instead

(26:41):
of their audience pulling numbers rising during that week, the
week of its release, they dropped from sixteen percent back
down to twelve percent. Yeah, with John McTiernan later claiming
is how Arnold predicted, like how his prediction came about damn,
She says, quote Arnold believes that one point represents one
million dollars over the opening weekend, so he knew on

(27:02):
Wednesday of that week that it was all over. Yeah. Yeah,
And I experience the that side of that too, like
a smaller version, like where the ticket sales has just
been so bad on like Thursday before the show that
you basically just like start preparing yourself for the fact
that you're probably gonna lose a couple hundred dollars at least.
And like the shittiest part is that there's nothing you
can do about it because you're just basically waiting there

(27:23):
and like come on, come on, like praying like enough
people will buy tickets so that the room isn't just
embarrassingly empty.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah. The only difference is you're not allowed to call
Jay Leno or whoever and get yourself on national television.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Speaking of embarrassingly empty, there's.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
A pretty good story about the movie's release that's told
in both the Hit and Run book and a nineteen
ninety three Entertainment Weekly article titled the Lost Action Hero,
although the details for each one are a little different,
like near the end. But yeah, So apparently Columbia held
Thursday night preview showings for Last Action Hero on June seventeenth,
nineteen ninety three, so the night before it officially opened,

(27:59):
which I they didn't know they did.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Back I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I'm sure they've always done that, but I thought that
was a like a I mean, I know, it's like
like normal now yeah, yeah, but yeah. Anyway, so the
story goes that a few of the Columbia executives, specifically
head studiohead Mark Canton Distribution chief Jeff Blake, and sid
the marketing whiz kid Gannis, they decided to attend one

(28:23):
of the previews showings in order to see a little
bit of the public reaction of the film, and their
night began on a pretty high note when the first
thing they noticed upon arriving in the theater was that
two of the three showings for Last Section Hero were.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Listed as sold out.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah so bad, Yeah exactly like they probably felt like
such like an enormous sense of relief. Likes, it's just
been like one hell of a bumpy ride of that
finish line. But all those months of just short sighted
decisions and half assed effort were just paying off finally,
you know. Unfortunately, they then went into the theater, where
they found out that in each of the theaters there

(28:57):
was a ton of empty seats. So they head to
the lobby find out what's going on. And this is
where the details differ a little bit. So according to
Nancy Griffin's book Hid and Run, one of the theater
managers explained to them that a computer malfunction had caused
the showings to registers sold out even though a quarter
of the tickets were still technically available. Jesus oh yes,

(29:17):
which the Columbia executives were obviously not too happy about
and definitely sucks that happened. But also it's kind of
art really surprising considering how this movie just like cannot
catch a break at any short of point.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Anyway, so that's one version of it, and the only
difference in the Entertainment Weekly article is the theater's reasons
behind all the empty seats, which the article says was
because the sold out signs were put on the wrong movie.
Oh and also those long lines of people waiting outside theater, Yeah,
they're actually there for a Jurassic Park.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Oh fuck, that sucks Jesus.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And I'm sure you guys are super surprised to learn that.
Columbia pretty much immediately began blaming the media for the
movie's lackluster opening weekend, just claiming that they torpedoed the
film with all the negative press before it even opened.
Either way, though, even if the bad press didn't bury
Last Action, Here's chances at the box office, it seemed
like the critics reviews definitely would have helped still it's
fate because like a lot of the major publications handed

(30:11):
out pretty scathing reviews for the movie hmm, with varieties,
review saying that it'll make you nostalgic for Hudson Hawk,
which I've never seen that, but I know it's an out.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah that's yeah, that's that's a pretty big burn.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Did you watch that?

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I've never seen that.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I saw part of it once, but I'm like, fuck,
this movie, I just know it is like a yeahorious shit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Geene Shallette actually took kind of a funny dig at
them on The Today Show, saying, quote, it's supposed to
be a movie within a movie, turns out it's a
movie without a movie. Oho, and I just completely forgot
about Geen Shallt until I re read that review.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
How you guys remember him?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, yamn bow tie mustache. Yeah, he's got a very
very specific look. He's like very cartoonist. He kind of
looks like if the sweetist chef from the Uppets fucked
one of the Mario brothers and they said, now how.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
To kid exactly like that, but not the Mario boss
from the video game Captain Leue Albano is.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Mario.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Google a picture of them. I'm yeah telling.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
You I don't trust anybody that wears a bow tie
except for Bill Nye. He's the only one. I'm serious, Like,
I mean, I'm trying to think of someone.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
This is the big issue for joke.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Well, two of you guys went to my wedding and
it was a no ties allowed, specifically something in no
ties allowed and if you show up in a bow
tie you'll be asked to leave because they're the worst.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
But why or sorry bow tie.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Because it's a pasta, not a fucking access ory.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
No.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Well, ties are just dumb, like the exit. They existed
back in the day to cover up your buttons, but
now it's still like a professional thing, and they's just
like it's a little noose around her neck. I don't
fucking get them. And then it's just like, uh, then
if you get a bow tie, you're kind of canceling
out the original purpose of a tie, which was to
cover up your buttons. And it just looks fucking stupid.

(32:01):
It looks like what a kit would be going to
church or some shit. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, yeah, see now I got me curious about the
why bow tie star.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Ties are for your hair, not your neck.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Or for the bedroom.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Okay, but yeah, not everyone hated the film, though. The
New York Times called it quote something of a mess
but frequently enjoyable one. And it's like a it's it's
a very it's a it's a mixed dish review, but
it's mostly positive. It kind of it also kind of
called it like it might confuse audiences but anyway, and
then the Washington Post review said that it was quote

(32:35):
clever and intriguing, which I know sounds like something that
the movie would. They're not allowed to do that, I
don't think anymore, or they get called out on it,
like take like let's say, like, uh, the Washington Post
actually said this movie is neither clever or not clever
or intriguing or something like that, or yeah, yeah, you
want a clever, intriguing movie, don't watch this.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
And then they took like a little little part of
it and then plastered it on.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
The Basically, this is the ass end of the greatest
movie in the world, and they just take greatest movie
in the world. Yeah, greatest movie in the world.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
So.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
President Clinton also came to the movie's defense, saying, quote,
I don't understand why the critics were so hard in
this movie. I liked it myself.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Is wrong.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
He seems like the type of guy that would like
this movie. And that's not me shitting on it. I
like it too, but I don't know. I mean, even
Ciskel and Ebert gave it a few compliments when they
reviewed Last Section Hero on their TV show, with Gene
Cisco praising Austin O'Brien's performance and then Roger Ebert saying
he enjoyed the way the movie poked fun of action
movie cliches. Despite that, they still ended up giving the

(33:39):
movie two thumbs down. Damn, but with both of them
kind of criticizing the film's uneven tone, and I'm sure
there was more so. Actually, Roger Ebert mentions in his
Chicago Sun Times review, the one that he wrote that
the script takes no real risks and then writes, quote,
there's a lot of action in the Last Action Hero,
but the underlying story never ever quite works from beginning

(34:01):
to end. The movie is about a gimmick without ever
transcending the gimmick. And I know it doesn't sound like
it from that quote unquote, but I know it doesn't
sound like it from that quote. But Roger Ebert's sometimes
review is actually one of the higher rated critic reviews
because he gave he gave Last Section Hero a two
point five out of four.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah, so more like it was like sixty.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
I don't know anyway, which makes sense because his review
honestly kind of reads like he really wanted to like
it but then just ended up kind of disappointed by
the result, which was a nice change of pace because
most of the reviews I read, like I said, were
just like they basically seemed like they were just waiting
to dig into the movie and just like, yeah, so
just hoping for it to be bad so they could

(34:39):
shit on it, just because you know, like the way
it was presented like this, the stupid marketing.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
And they're pretentious.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
So yeah, yeah, the movie got compared to I've never
seen it, but the Purple ros of Cairo, which is
a Woody Allen movie, and there was one more I
don't remember, but the Purple Rosa Cairo is like a
rever It's like Last Section here is like a reverse
version of that to where the Purple ros of Cairo,
Jeff Daniels comes out of the screen and I don't know,
it's a Boody Allen movie.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
It's probably fine. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, I like all those movies except for that
nervous guy that's always in them.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
By the way, the best part of that Ciskel and
Eber review or episode is that they reviewed Jurassic Park
pretty much right after they did Last Section Hero, even
though it came out the week before. And I was
totally expecting them to just completely fawn over it and
like give it two chubs up instead of two thumbs
up or something like that. But they're pretty they're way
harsher or just harsher than I thought they'd be. Really, yeah,

(35:36):
they did give it two thumbs up. Although Gene Siskel
introduces it by saying Spielberg's special effects dinosaurs are truly thrilling,
but unfortunately his Cuman characters are not. And then both
of them also agree that Jurassic Park is a bit
too scary for younger the kid audiences, that the most
of the film's marketing seem to be aimed towards, with
Gene Cisco suggesting that it might be too intense for

(35:58):
any little bitch as kids under the age of ten.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Not a direct quote.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
No, I first of all, I very much enjoy less
action hero more than Jurassic Park. But what he was
that Ebert, I don't know, just said like, I feel
that's kind of a problem with this movie as well.
So maybe hit the nail on the head where he said,
like the dinosaurs were, yeah, too scary for the young children,

(36:25):
but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well yeah, which I think I know what you're gonna
say next. But Cisco then compares Jurassic Park to Jaws,
but adds that unlike Jaws, Jurassic Park lags.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
The movie lags.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
When the animals aren't on screen because Jaws had quote
three marvelous characters hunting the shark. Jurassic Park only has
Jeff Goldbloom unquote, but yeah, he basically praises the special effects,
while like you said before, calling the human characters boring,
with the one exception being the Malcolm character, which I
do agree with, although I definitely think that's due to
how like naturally like charismatic and charming Jeff Goldbloom is,

(36:57):
you know, because that Malcolm character in the book is
kind of a blow hard, but like the movie Malcolm,
I would totally blow hard.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, you know, well yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Roger Evertt also points out that the movie doesn't really
have that sense of awe that some of Spielberg's previous
films had, specifically mentioning Close Encounters of the third kind. Anyway,
so I asked you guys to rewatch.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
It for this episode.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
And I know it's been probably a little while, but
this is probably an obvious question, but I'm curious to
hear if there's any doubt for me any of you
guys about which is the better movie, and then also
is it the same one that you prefer to watch
if given the choice between the two.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Well, I guess I'll continue my point, which goes into
that I guess part of it was when I was
watching Last Action Hero today, so we're recording this later
than usual, so if this comes out later, then you
can know it's my fault for watching the movie, because
you know, that's how podcasts work. But I think, you know,

(37:58):
last section here was kind of geared towards younger audience,
I guess, but I think a lot of it it's
kind of like the Simpsons were back in the day,
you know, where it was people thought it was a
kid show, but it was just like an adult show,
and this one was kind of geared towards kids, but like,
I don't think kids could really get a lot of
the jokes and the tropes and everything. And I was

(38:20):
trying to explain this to my wife like a minute ago,
and I was like, it's like, yeah, no, I found
this Simpsons like trophy stuff like funny. I'm like, wait,
did I find that funny or did I just learn
it from the Simpsons and then go back and watch
stuff and realize how good they're set satirizing it? So
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
I'm not a.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Film critic, which why the fuck am I on this podcast, right?
I just I always enjoyed this movie, and when I
came to Jurassic Park. I like, I enjoyed it, but
I was never like blown away, And it's hard to
kind of detach yourself from your adult self and movies

(39:02):
you watch when you're a kid. So I guess I'll
do the logical fallacy of appeal to authority and say
Jurassic Park is a better movie, but I'd much rather
watch Last Action Hero any day, and I personally enjoy
it more.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
So.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, I mean yes, but Joe sounds like he's like
doing it because like saying the Last Action you know
is better, or or Joe, Rassic Park's better, because you know,
that's that's what that's what the man, Yeah exactly, that's
what the film nerds are telling us.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, I mean like I have a lot of stuff
that I enjoy, and a lot of stuff that I
enjoy is like really good, but I definitely kind of
I don't know, I guess I don't know a way
to put this. Maybe this is going too deep into myself,
but you know, like when it comes to like the
wire of the Simpsons, you know, I'm just like, oh man,
I fucking love this show. But also like look at

(39:52):
everybody else that says it's like the best fucking shit ever,
you know, so I'm not really necessarily good at I
would suck as a high school English teacher, you know,
like looking at the themes and all that shit. Like,
I just like what I like, and I can understand
why things are good and bad, but doesn't mean I
like them more or less.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Basically, I'm just trying to say I'm fucking dumb.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
What about what about you guys? I don't know, It's
it's pretty straightforward. For like, Jurassic Park is a better movie.
I'd rather watch Jurassic Park most of the time. I'd
like last section hero a lot. But I do think
that the plot is a little thin.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
See, that's how people talk, Joe, That's how that's how
the film nerds talk.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
It's like, not like way more so than Jurassic Park,
but just like a little bit comparatively. I also just
find that Spielberg is trying to do more like.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Visually.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, like there's a lot more interesting stuff visually with
Spielberg and he's doing I guess the things that keep
me hooked on Durassic Park, that make me want to
watch it more or like, you know, it's not the
same thing. It's not an action comedy. There's way more
suspense and it's exciting like almost the entire time. And

(41:18):
after rewatching it, I gotta say, the score does a
ton of heavy lifting. Is fucking insane for them, Like yeah,
like all the all the really tense scenes, all the
like look at the dinosaurs and how awesome they are
seeing like that, that's all the score doing a lot
of the heavy lifting there.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, but yeah, interesting.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
I'm a huge Spielberg.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, I mean, I like pretty much all the other
movies I've seen from him. I just I don't know.
I guess, like, uh, suspense is an interesting thing because
I just rewatched Enemy of the State and like that
movie still holds. I was still a great fucking movie,
and it was suspended, suspensed what you want.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
To call it, you know, specified yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
But like, yeah, but like watching Jurassic Park, I'm just like,
you know what happens saying that guy's gonna die? I guys,
now whatever. But I'd rather like, especially just like the
middle of a movie, I would I think I'd prefer
last section Hero because like, obviously I know everything's gonna

(42:24):
work out for Jack Slater, but that's because they're in
a movie, so it it's funny. I don't know. Anyways,
I'll stop talking for a while, Erica, what about you?

Speaker 5 (42:33):
I completely agree with Joe. Aaron asked me the same
question the other night, and I literally said the same
thing Joe said.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Where.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
It's like, I get the Jurassic Park is supposed to
be a better movie. It's a dinosaur. I get it,
like whatever, but like, I'm never excited to watch Draxton Park.
I already know how it's gonna go down. Like anytime
Last Action Heroes on, I'm like, oh, shut up, Last
Action Heroes on. Like it's it's not just a predictable

(43:01):
film that like I know what's gonna happen, Like the
jokes hit differently different times, the heart hits differently different times.
Like there's jokes that maybe I missed the first time.
Like there's always something new that you get out of
the movie. And I don't know. I just personally, I
would rather watch Last Action Hero over Jurassic Park, regardless
if I'm being told Jurassic Park is a better movie

(43:23):
or not.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, yeah, well, I would rather watch I think Last
Section Hero just because it's a little more fun. But
I think Jurassic Park is a better movie.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, that's fun. Schindler's List is a better movie than
fucking Commando, but Commando every day.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Exactly, Like it's fair. I like Jassic Park. When I
was watching, I was like, this is a pretty good movie.
But like for me, it kind of depends on my mood.
But I think as a whole I prefer to watch
Last Section Hero. That makes sense, like as a whole movie.
Like if someone asked me to pick just three scenes
that I wanted to watch from like both movies, you
only pick three scenes to watch, I definitely end up
choosing they don't they'd mostly be Jurassic Park.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
It'd be like the t Rex.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Fence scene, probably have a velociractor.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Scene either like the Clever Girl or the kitchen one.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Yeah, and then maybe maybe like either the funeral scene
from the Last Section Hero or like Samuel L. Jackson
telling people to hold onto their butts. Like I don't know,
I really.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Enjoy cream scene from from Oh Yeah Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
It's just like I really enjoy Last Action Hero and
would probably choose to watch that as a whole, but
because it's faster paced. But when Jurassic Park is good.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
It's really good. But if that makes sense, it.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
Takes forever to get into the film, and like watching
Last Section Hero, you just come straight into the action
like you're like, whoa, what.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Is disagree But yeah, well especially it's like.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
It's like die hard to start off.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Last Action Hero is lighter for sure, like it moves.
I get that, but like, I don't know the Jurassic
Park is especially, I guess dialogue matters a lot to me,
and there's it's way better written in Jurassic Park because
they're not writing jokes in Jurassic Park. They're writing actual,

(45:11):
like dialogue for two human beings to say back and
forth to each other.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Who talks like that?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
People talk?

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Nobody, nobody, Nobody goes around being all like club a
girl and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
Like that's that you sound like a fucking idiot.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
How many Australian Hunters do you hold?

Speaker 6 (45:28):
Like at least I was gonna say none personally.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
But by the way, my mind definitely depends on if
it's in the theater or not, because if it's theater
at Jurassic Park, because that movie is I.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Don't know, have you seen Last Section heroin theater? No?

Speaker 3 (45:44):
But I guarantee you, like, yes, Jurassic Park for the theater,
but also like just with their criticisms, uh, with Ebert
saying that they didn't have that sense of awe, I
don't know, Like, I sure, I guess he's.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Sorry he said that about Djurassic Park.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yes, he said that about Durassic Park, that it didn't
have the sense of awe that some of Spielberg's previous
to me.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Again, I'd like, I'll reiterate that I haven't watched Close
Encounters in a very long time, but that seems nothing
like what do you mean it doesn't have the sense
of like, Yeah, I just.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Don't mean I never never got it with that movie.
But dinosaurs are also for fucking children. And I watched
it as a child.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, yah, that's what you said. When you're a kid,
dinosaurs are for fucking children.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Be stupid.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Also, I don't know what that means.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
I didn't watch it until seventh grade biology plus and
I was really terrified in hiding behind my textbook the
whole time, so I can't talk.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, Well, what I mean is there's only two type
of people that are into dinosaurs, children and paleontologists, Like
I don't like it doesn't. I don't fucking care about dinosaurs.
They're just big animals, like cool, I don't fucking care.
Like it doesn't intrigued me at all, like aliens and

(47:02):
shit like a giant shark. I mean, technically, yes, it's
a dinosaur, like we won't get in the specifics, but
like that shit is like intriguing because it's like scary.
I guess, I don't know, but.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
There was suspense to that. There was no suspense to
like what does the dinosaur look like?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (47:21):
You know? I mean I guess maybe a little bit
with like the velociraptors chasing them through the kitchen, but like,
at no point was there any suspense. I felt like
in Jurassic Park where that.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
T rex scene is that fence the car crushing scene? Yeah, okay, anyway,
who's gonna keep arguing about this? Okay?

Speaker 4 (47:41):
So getting back to it.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
So apparently a couple of other things that last section
year had going against it were the fact that it's
marketing basically ignored Arnold's biggest audience, which might not have
been such a big deal, but the studios tracking, like
their tracking poll, their audience tracking poles had shown that
most audiences weren't entirely sure what the movie was about,
or whether or not it was a typical Arnold action

(48:03):
film or a kid's movie, which I could definitely see
having a negative impact on its box office sales, especially
when you're going up against an extremely marketable like the dinosaurs.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Of Jurassic Park.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Like, I actually remember not getting what last section here
was about until I eventually watched it later on video.
Granted I was only ten, but still, like, the only
thing I remember about when it came about it when
it came out in the theaters was that it was
a new Arnold movie and then it didn't have dinosaurs
in it.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
What.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
No, that's not true.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
She is seen with dinosaurs.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
She's not wrong.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
It's literally literally in the picture.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Oh sorry, sorry.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
That checks out. I don't know. I once again, I
haven't seen the movie in a while. But this might
be an what they call an accidental masterpiece, you know,
like their Star Wars, your fucking office space and everything.
But usually it's kind of a yeah, no one thinks
this thing's gonna happen. It's kind of a shit show

(49:05):
and becomes like a great thing. I think it's weirdly,
kind of the opposite is the studios pushing as an
amazing thing, but they're doing all the worst parts. Yeah,
it kind of comes out like, actually a really fucking
good movie.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yeah, it comes out, It comes out fine. I think
pushing it against Jurassic Park because I think I don't know,
it's just a different movie anyway.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, okay, So I mean, what's this movie's biggest problem
is it was overhyped and it came out and it
didn't make a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
It was overhyped, it didn't make a lot of money.
On top of that, the fact that it came out
a week after Jurassic Park. I remember, like, I know,
I didn't see last section here on theaters, but I
definitely saw Jurassic Park, which I supposed to makes sense
because I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I don't
think my parents took us to more than like maybe
one or two movies a month or two at the Max.

(49:57):
And with those two movies being released so close to
each other, are you gonna watch the movie about dinosaurs
escaping from a theme park? Are you gonna watch the
Arnold movie that you're not sure what is about? Like
what it's about Yeah, but yeah, so plus just the
marketing man, the marketing was way better, like it's again,
it's also way easier to market Jurassic Park, like Univers's
marketing is probably, Oh, this is gonna be there's no
way we can fuck this up.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I was gonna say so, I don't know anything about
the marketing. I was too young to know anything about that.
When we were talking before, Joe asked, like, what was
the biggest problem with this movie? I think part of
the problem with this movie is that it's kind of
ahead of its time and that it's genre bending in
a way that not a lot of movies were doing
at the time. Yeah, he is straight up an action movie.
It is also straight up a satire. It is also

(50:42):
trying to be a relatively family friendly like adventure movie,
trying to do all those things. Movies now still have
that problem where like a trailer won't really know how
to sell a movie if it's more than one thing,
or if it's a new thing. Yeah, back then, when
movies were even more slotted into categories, if it's an
Arnold action movie, it's an Arnold action movie, and that's it.

(51:04):
Like it can't be another thing. Yeah you can't like.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah, but you're also expecting it to be rated R
at that point too. Yeah, true, So I don't know anyway. So,
following Last Action Hero's disappointing opening weekend, Columbia immediately adjusted
their ads for the movie in an attempt to attract
an older audience, specifically the eighteen to thirty five year
old male action movie fans that had made Schwarzenegger's rated
action films so successful in the first place.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Said that weird, but you guys get it.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah, but uh, Last Section Hero's marketing campaign pretty much
ignored them. They were focused on the kid like dame
towards kids, and I'm guessing that was probably due to
both Columbia and the marketing dynamo. Sid ganis incorrectly assuming
that this particular demographic was part of Arnold's like built
an audience, even though they were actually just like straight

(51:52):
up action movie fans and not necessarily Schwarzenegger fans.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Probably not, especially if they think it's a kid exactly,
which you would not be blamed for thinking considering that
it has a.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
K I was thinking about that because Kindergarten Cop didn't
do as well, like I mean it did, it did good,
but it didn't do as well as like I don't know,
like Total Recall or Terminator two. Yeah, but Twins did
really well. But it was also Arnold's first comedy, so

(52:24):
I think that, and plus like the whole the whole
thing with it was like it's it's it's also an
adult comedy.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Anyway, either way, Columbia had to do something. So the
TV ads, which were targeting a younger kid audience by
mostly focusing on the Danny character and the whole like
wish fulfillment aspect of the movie.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Like they I watched them.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
They even they have there's like lines in the trailer
that said, it's a Don la Fontaine. Of course, nobody's
like imagine if your favorite movie hero stepped off screen
and you guys could hang out basically that yeah, very
focused marketing. So they started off with those type of ads,
but once the movie I'm underperformed during its opening weekend,
Columbia released new ads that focused solely on Arnold kicking

(53:03):
ass and blown shit up, with not a single mention
or even appearance from Austin O'Brien's character in the ad Sam.
They also changed up their print ads, with the newspaper
ads going from the one that I just sent from that,
which is just basically the movie's original poster, the one
we're you know, we're the one where Arnold's hair is flying.
But they went from that to uh, this right here,

(53:26):
which kind of looks like it could be from End.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Of Days, yeah, or fucking red Heat.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Yeah, it's it's just a black and white shot of
Arnold like in profile and carrying a gun, which titled
the movie at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Gun is bigger than his head.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Yeah, But which is funny because of how much they
were against the violence and the guns and all that
before and then I started losing money and then it
was like, yeah, fuck it, throw a gun on there. Unfortunately,
it seemed a little too late for all this, because
last section knows box office numbers would experience a forty
seven percent drop during its follow up weekend, bringing in

(53:59):
only eight million and falling to the number four spot
at the box office when two new movies were released,
which were Sleepless in Seattle, which took the number two spot,
and then Dennis the Menace Tick, which took the number
three spot. Oh yeah, that's so I mean that was
all right?

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Yeah, that fucking Walter Mathow And that's how I knew
there's like a flower at their own blues once here.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Is that a true flower?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:25):
I think it's real interesting.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I don't know if it looks I think that was
written by John Hughes too, was it? I think? But
I could be wrong. Interesting anyway. And by the way,
Last Action Hero underperforming at the box office wasn't just
a problem for Columbia, because all twenty three hundred and
six movie theaters that booked Last Action Hero were now
pretty much stuck with it as well for a minimum
of four long unprofitable weeks.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Table.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yeah, which sucks for like the bigger theaters, but just
must have really hurt any like smaller theaters that yeah,
like the one, like the one, one or two screen theaters. Damn,
but you're just like losing money, especially if no one's
going after that. Yeah, like sex first or second week half.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Your showings are empty. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
So, according to a nineteen ninety three LA Times article,
due to the movie's hefty marketing costs, Columbia asked for
quote unusually large cash sums upfront from any chains that
wanted to book the film unquote. But Variety then also
reported that the studio received an upfront total of around
sixty million dollars from all the theaters like total, although

(55:31):
an anonymous source for Columbia told the La Times that
the number wasn't quite that high.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
But you know, I yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
This is starting to sound like a scam.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Apparently the studio had set up a deal with the
movie theaters, which I thought I understood, but then I
started second guessing myself after rereading it. So I'm just
going to quote directly from the La Times article, which says,
if the movie does not return at least sixty million
to Columbia, the studio will refund the difference to the exhibitors.
It will also renegotiate the terms of how it splits
the box office gross with the theaters to induce them
to play the film a little longer, as well as

(56:05):
working to ensure good ongoing business relationships unquote. And I
guess I think the part that I didn't get was
that first part about Columbia refunding the difference, Like after
reading it, like, I'm gonna assume that that Columbia. So
it sounds like it's going under the assumption that Columbia
did get sixty million dollars like from the theater.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
So it sounds like, yeah, it got sixty million upfront,
and they were like, look if you don't, if it
doesn't actually make that, we'll give you back something.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yeah. So yeah, So basically, if the theaters don't make
their money back, like back the money that they paid
to book the movie, then Columbia will refrom them the difference, right, yeah, Okay,
it's just confused me, Like it confused me because like
the article states first starts with like the amount that
theaters paid could have been sixty million dollars, but then
it like it like it wasn't sure, yeah, but only

(56:51):
times anyway. And by the way, that four week minimum
booking period that I mentioned earlier, yeah, yeah, that's just
for the smaller market theaters, because supposedly Columbia required theaters
located in bigger urban markets to commit to Last Action
Hero for.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
At least twelve weeks, so about three months. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
God, like movies used to last longer back then, so
I guess it wasn't as bad, but like, if it
dropped off that much in the first couple of weeks,
that that's a fucking paint. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I went and I was looking at go and watch
the Thunderbolts like a week ago, and it was already
wasn't anywhere, Like what the hell it was in theaters
for like two weeks?

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Did you didn't did that bomb?

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Apparently it didn't do it as well that it sucks
because Captain America Brave New World apparently did like three
times better. We watched that as was much worse movie.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Yeah yeah, Herdunderbolts was Thunderbolts is good.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Thunderbolts is a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Ye.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
Anyway, they uh know it didn't come out yet.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Daily Times article also mentions a rumor stating that Columbia
could possibly release the theaters from its four week minimum commit
meant if the theaters held onto Last Section Hero until
in the Line of Fire Colinistwood's movie opened on July ninth,
at which point the Clinice Swood movie would basically like
swap like get replaced by oh sorry, would replace Last

(58:14):
Action Hero.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yeah, but spokesman for Columbia was basically like, no, no, no, no,
those movies are were books separately, so.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
That's not happening.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Like if we're going down, So were you like everyone's
going down with this shit fuck that.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
I'm just curious how well that movie did.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
That movie had a way smaller budget and it made money.
I know that because I looked it up. But I
know that I think their budget was super low though,
like not not crazy. But anyway, by the way, those
two movies Last Section Hero and In the Line of
Fire basically caused Columbia to halt the development on any
new projects like the cost of them with variety or

(58:51):
putting in April of nineteen ninety three that the two
movies had created an imbalance at the studio because quote
this was a quote from that they got from some producers.
I think that worked for Columbia that were pissed because
their shit wasn't like the there was no development money anyway.
Development spending was curbed shortly after Schwarzenegger agreed to start

(59:12):
in Last Action Hero in December, and the harness on
acquisition and development began to lift last month. That was
in April. So from December to March, they didn't greenlighter,
weren't accepting nothing. Basically, yes, no projects because those two movies.
That's good.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
We have a long time for a studio not.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, that is such a huge bed on this one, Yes, exact.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
And one of the other quotes in there from them
was like they're not thinking long term at all. They're
just not at all, Like I don't.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Know, holy Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Anyway, last section, Hero would eventually bring in fifty million domestically,
which meant that Columbia definitely had to reimburse all those theaters,
but only ten million dollars whatever. Yeah, but yeah, the
movie ended up an extra ten million.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
But the movie ended up with the world worldwide gross
of a one hundred and thirty seven point three million,
which would have been awesome if the if the movie
had had that forty seven point five million dollar budget
that Columbia originally claimed that it did, Yeah, but not
so much for its final budget that was supposedly anywhere
between sixty to seventy million on the low end. Yeah,

(01:00:25):
and then I think one of the highest ones I
saw was like one hundred and twenty million.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
It's that seems unlike.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Yes, it's listed on IMDb and a bunch of other
places as eighty five million, so let's stick with that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
In any case, Columbia took enough of a loss that
Mark Canton canceled the plans for the intended sequel.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Yeah, do you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Have anything about what that sequel was going to be?

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
No, I mean I didn't look it up, but I
just I find that I mean, I guess it would
be easy enough to just be like he still exists,
he still has a ticket again, but like, I just
don't know what they would do. Yeah, they also the
it came it was in uh on AFI dot com. Yeah, sorry,

(01:01:11):
I get those mixed up, but AFI dot com And
it was in the because they have all the movies
that they have listed on there. They have a short
little history and it's like sites all the where they're
getting everything, like the The New York Times said this. Anyway,
it was listed by some papers that have never heard
of but it's said that it was supposed to be
like it was intended or scheduled or intended to be

(01:01:33):
released or whatever summer of ninety four. But Schwarzenegger was
doing true like I think he jumped right to true lies.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
So yeah, I that I don't know, Like, yeah, that
seems like yeah, like maybe at one point it was
on the schedule for summer of ninety four, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't know anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Last Action Hero was the sixteenth highest grossing film of
nineteen eighty three, placing it one spot above Hot Shots
Part Do You, two spots lower than Free Willie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, bad freakly Big was huge.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Yeah, Still it was a whale of a movie, the
whale of a tale.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Anyway, This fucking was a killer movie.

Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
So the Sylvester Sloan actually had two movies in the
top twenty grossing movies worldwide, which were Demolition Man at
number twelve and Cliffhanger number seven, which Cliffinger. Cliffinger made
first of all, number seven for the year, but damn
Mede two hundred and fifty five million dollars for ninety three,
which I was like, holy shit, I that like big.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Spielberg had two movies in the top five, Jurassic Park
with a little over a billion dollars, and then Schindler's
List made was number four with three hundred and twenty
two point two million.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
By the way, Jurassic Park made over a half billion
more than the number two movie, which was missed out
Fire which made yes four and forty one point two
and nineteen eighty three was just a good year for movies.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Yeah, But anyway, and I know last section it was
production schedule kind of doomed it from the beginning, but
I don't think it helped that it went up against
what would eventually become the third highest grossing movie of
the nineties. Yeah Jesus, Yeah, and he guess what those
first two would be?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Titanic and wait Forrest Gump the other pick one of
the nineties. Yeah, probably Forrest Coumper saving Private Ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
I don't know the best Star Wars movie, Phantom Menace.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, right, so Titanic, Phantom Menace, Dress at
Park top three.

Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
I forgot that one got under the wire for the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Oh yeah, because it was ninety nine. Yeah yeah, so
Wi Joe just mentioned two and three. But Jurassic Park
and Phantom Menas flip flopped depending on which list you're
looking at, Like Star Wars is number two on the
Wikipedia on Wikipedia's list, like the list is listed on there,
but Jurassic Park is listed second on a few a
bunch of the others that I found. But I'm not
sure if those lists, like those other lists outside of

(01:04:05):
Wikipedia are also counting their total box office like complete
like total like including rereleases and all that, like current
box office basically yeah, because at that point I think,
I like it would make sense because I I don't know,
like I feel like Jurassic Park is probably it seems
like it's out in theaters more like the original one

(01:04:26):
more than.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
They don't seem like they like it's always like an event.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Whenever they re released the prequels for Star Wars, Yeah, yeah,
and they always skipped that second one, don't they.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Herika sounds a bit.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
She's still the only one I've ever seen in theaters.
Well originally, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
If that counts like home video sales or whatever, you know,
because Phantom Menace, you know, came out in ninety nine,
summer ninety nine, you know, and then maybe got released
at the end of ninety nine, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Well that's videos specifically, spot I specifically looked up box
office sales.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
It would be for like their total.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Uh, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
I think as far as like all the Jurassic Park
sequels in movies, like, none of them have really been
very like they're all interchangeable. To me, Like you could
ask me which one is which and which one happens where?
And I'd be like, I don't fucking know that it
was a dinosaur movie that came after the first one.
I don't know, But I think this movie would be

(01:05:28):
really fun as a sequel. Now, Like if you brought
the kid back and made him the like movie theater
old guy or you know, mid mid whatever and had
like a new kid come through and still have Arnold
like come through and be the action hero and everything, Like,
I think it could still work and just get like
a better rewrite and everything on it, like the theme

(01:05:51):
and trope of it, and everything would just be still
just as good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Like he's these like one last job type of guy,
you know, because he's all old and shit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Yeah uh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Either way, even if last Section Hero had pulled in
let's say like Terminator two type numbers, yeah, Jurassic Parks
still would have completely dominated.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
At the box office for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Yeah, because that was like five hundred and twenty million,
like it. The whole situation kind of runing of being
like a Padres fan. They make it to the World
Series in nineteen eighty four, have to play a Tigers
team that's consistently ranked as one of the top team
like twenty teams of all time. They make it again
in nineteen ninety eight play Yankees team that's like one
of the best teams of all time, like one of
the top four. It's just I'm assuming if they ever
make it again, it'll probably end up playing like I

(01:06:37):
don't know, either the nineteen twenty seven Yankee somehow, or
like a team just consistently like consisting entirely of Baby
Ruth clones that robots or some shit like that, like
the first robot team. The Dodgers have signed the first
robot player, and you're like, motherfucker, that's that's the year
that they make the world series anyway. Sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
The one thing associated with the film that did end
up being successful or doing well was the movie soundtrack,
which apparently was quite the bangers, so I have been told.
It was released June eighteenth, nineteen ninety three, and certified
platinum by that August.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
So I think that's one million.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Damn Yeah, I have no idea what's on the soundtrack.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
It featured songs from A. C. D. C. Allis and Chains, Megadeth,
Queen's Reich, def Leopard, anth Rex, Aerosmith, Fishbone, which I
think is a ska band.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Fishbone, Yes, are you thinking of real big fish?

Speaker 6 (01:07:34):
You're thinking?

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
No, what's Fishbone? I'm pretty sure that's the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
What the I'll look it up right now. It's a
skop band. I can't just put fish like either a
ska band or a fucking jam band or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
It's music for white people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
It's basically can rock, sky punk, funk, metal, reggae and soul.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Okay, who else after?

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Tesla, which is I think is a it's a metal band?

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
And then what I was just gonna say that is
the only band on this soundtrack that I've not.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Heard of, and then Cypress Hill, who were hopefully backed
by the London Symphony Orchestra. Five of the songs were released.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
It's free ordered well High.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
I was like one of those two get it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Uh five, it's the third Simpsons reference. If you don't
know the fucking tiny minutia details.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Like a pretty specific one too, look at you. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Five of the songs were released as singles, the biggest
one being A C. D C's Big Gun, which became
the band's first song to top Billboard's Rock Songs chart.
So their first like number one song, like on the
rock chop.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
Yeah, yeah, anyway for them?

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Yeah, wait what else were they.

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
Bells?

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
I know, but like what else to say? No, Like
you said, that was the first one that topped the
rock charts. Like what other charts were they fucking on?

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Like no, like the Weekly the Top forty, right is
that what this? Or Top one hundred or it's the
Hot Hote or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
I mean, all of those are things like the.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Main one basically the Billboard.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Yeah yeah, they're all those are all Billboard charts. But
like there's a ton of Billboard charts, but there's one
like Main one, which is mostly for pop music.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
But well, it's the way you said it is sounded
like they topped like the chart the rocks. Yeah, but
you like that was their first one that top the
rock chart. Yeah, made it sound like I know what
you're trying to say. But for me, it sounded like they.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Topped like the pop charts before they were constantly on
top of the reggae.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Maybe, I mean maybe they maybe they were now curious
uh it like they might have been because I don't know,
back in like the seventies or something, when all when
that music was super popular. But anyway, Arnold actually featured
in the music video for the a c DC music
video where he's dressed like guitarist Angus Young and here's

(01:10:28):
a pick of that oh yeah, which is a great picture.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Yeah, this is the only band.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
It was the only band I recognized in the soundtrack
se DC.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Oh, I mean I've heard of all the others of
the bands I've listened to music from.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
I heard all the other bands, well besides fish Bomb.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Apparently I can't get over that hat.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Uh Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Anyway, and we're going to stop right there, but we'll
be back next week to check out some promo videos
and find out how Arnold dealt with the movie bombing
at the box office, as well as Howie feels about
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(01:11:17):
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