Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines - Promo Clips & Beyond - See You at the Poddy, Richter! - An Arnold Schwarzenegger Movie Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Tape deck media stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hello, and welcome to see you with the party, Richter.
My name is Chris Chapman, and I am joined as
always by Aaron Frascus Hello, and Joseph pat Castro Hello,
q T piyes. And today we are going to be
going through the promotional material for Arnold's two thousand and three. Yeah,

(00:36):
I'm just out of these. It's a vehicle of some kind.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
But yeah, anyway, Toyota Tandra, especially Toyota Tundra.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, his crossover vehicle, T three, Rise of the Machines.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're finishing, staff, We're finishing.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, we're gonna finish this movie, yes, I think.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Anyway, Hello, and before we get going, I believe Joe
had something you wanted to share. Oh okay, so yeah,
what do you got first, Joe?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Oh right, So I promise you guys crane jokes. So
the setup here is Arnold's talking to Bill Locke, you're
the Attorney General California, trying to convince him to pass
that after school Bill. So the setup is he's like
hanging on the crane and Bill Lockley's there. He's like, hey, Bill,

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come on, read the crane and write it.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
You're just listening to come on, what is that? Who
sings that?

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Quad City DJs?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Just listening to that song.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Honestly, I thought of these all in the shower. So
that's why I do my best thinking, because it's the
only time I'm not distracted like looking at my phone
or watching something on TV.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I usually forget the stuff though, and I'm like, fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Sometimes we got like the glass thing, I'll like write
it on there like four times and I'll remember.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
But then if you forget it later, it's like coming
back up, You're like, oh my.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
God, I've been haunted by a genius comedian.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's always it's also work stuff in there too, so
I was like, oh, I need to fucking pass the
props on this.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Thing and that way with paylud whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Okay, so I got that one.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Then it's like, hey Bill, how about you add a
writer onto the bill, which is also your name. That's funny.
You can change this state bird to a crane.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
He's like, pointing at the train. He's like, look, it
could be the crane. Hey Bill.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
You know how I won mister Olympia seven times? I
had to crane my body.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
The train. I thought even it was like a pose.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Not having after school stuff is the crane of my existence.
Remember at the end of Pumping Iron when I was
smoking that Mary crane and then finally I promise you
a Frasier joke. It's like, Hey, Bill, I'm going to
be on this crane for Niles in Isles and that's that.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Was one sour shower session.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
So I'm curious what you forgot a productive shower? Yeah, okay, nice,
we can continue.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
All right, cool, I'm gonna throw it over to Aaron,
who's going to tell us about some of the promotional
material and other stuff like that. Go ahead, erin all right.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well, so some of Terminator three's of marketing and promotional
tactics were they're interesting. So it begins like somewhat normally
with the teaser trailer debuting in theaters December of two
thousand and two, attached to Lord of the Rings The
Two Towers Bad And it's the super short one that
we watched with the liquid metal like.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Forming into right into the T three.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, forming into the T three title, which I'd imagine
was somewhat disappointing after like how highly anticipated the trailer
was once its release schedule was announced on Arnold anounced
it on his website in like December sixteenth, two thousand
and one. Did I say two? There was a ten
second teaser trailer on Entertainment Tonight December seventeenth that aired

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on Access Hollywood December eighteenth, a debut in theaters with
the Rings. And also, it's just like that trailer that
we watch, it's kind of dull compared to how awesome
the Terminator two teaser trailer was, Like, I'm sure you
guys have seen it, right, It's basically the one that
just shows Arnold's like T one oh one model being assembled.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh yeah, I have seen that one before.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, it's like a little over a minute long, but
it looks great, and I'm sure it was probably a
bit more effective at building hype for its movie than
the T three trailer. The teaser trailer was for T three.
And the strange part is is it's not like they
didn't have any footage of the movie at this point.
Because filming he had wrapped on T three in early

(04:44):
September of two thousand and two, the trailer wasn't released
until about a week before Christmas. And I understand, like,
probably not a lot of CG like work was finished
at that point or maybe sure there was some, but
they could at least thrown the shot at Arnold. Yeah,
like even just that like shot of John seeing him
in the vet clinic, when you just see the silhouette
of like the shotgun wilding Arnold as he's walking down
the smoke field hallway, that would build excitement.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, that alone exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
If you want to drive him wild. Include like Arnold's
line it is time like before cutting away to like
next summer or something like that, Like they build excitement
for the.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Movie that trailer just literally anything exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Instead, they decided to go with the trailer looks like
it was made up like twenty minutes before I had
to be turned in, Like the trailer guys like how
fuck fucker fucker fuck uh like and I'm sure it did,
like it was probably made by ilamb or someone, but like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Sure sure, But this is like that thing of just
the logo is the kind of thing you show at
like a trade show to investors to get them excited
about the prospect of the movie, not what you show
to audiences to get them excited to go to a movie.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yes, and we will end up watching the because it
was I found a clip that was the teaser trailer
for Tremeter or two was attached to a different clip
that I found.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, it wasn't like it was in front of some
big movie or anything movie.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
It was Lord of the Rings the Two Towers. Ah,
never heard of it. Yeah, weird, some nerd ships movie
for DORCS. Yeah, exactly, No one's gonna watch that shit.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I didn't watch in theaters.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Exactly. You're gonna split three books into three movies. You
need to split one book into three movies, like yeah, yeah, idiot, stupid.
That should have been like six movies. All right, Now,
I'm just angry at the hobbit because you know, uh,
but okay, to be fair, they did eventually end up
using that Hallway shot of Arnold in like a thirty

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second trailer that they aired about a month later during
Super Bowl xx V two. What is that thirty five? Seven,
thirty seven. She'll probably remembers that.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Twenty seven, but whatever, So what that would be two
thousand and three?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
It was two thousand and three.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yes, so the two thousand and two season. Oh, that's
the one super Bowl I don't fucking remember.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
How do you not remember? They can't.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Well, they canceled it that year.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Wait, they can't.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
What the Raiders got their ass stopped?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Okay, we haven't won. We haven't want a playoff games
since then, so it's been tough. Sorry. When I when
I looked it up, I was like, Ooh, I'm not
gonna mention anything past that. I'm sure he'll have no
one I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
When now you can name in a year past nineteen
eighty nine, I can tell you who played in the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
So that's his rain man power.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Can you get it by the number like the super
Bowl number? Or no, just the year?

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Uh, if you give me the Roman numerals, I can
figure out the number and then I'll I have to
do some math, you know, with the year.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
But yeah, I could probably figure it out. Are there
any that you know by the number? Like just like
if I say just the number, just like Raider ones
or no.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
No.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Super Bowl thirty was Dallas over Pittsburgh. Super Bowl fucking
fifty was some dumb ass team over the Panthers. So
like every season, like the nineteen ninety five season, the
Super Bowls in nineteen ninety six and nineteen ninety five
season of Super Bowl thirty. Therefore the two thousand and

(08:12):
five season Super Bowl forty was that Pittsburgh over Seattle. Okay,
then fifty and then sixty. I guess it is coming
up not this season but next season.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
So like the decade years like or the beginning of
the decade, I don't know what end of Yeah, okay,
other one I remember is just the one that was
in Sandy eight or was it? No, it was when
the Chargers played and got stormmed by the forty nine Ers.
That was just yeah, that was twenty nine. I was
in nineteen eighty four, so okay anyway, uh so, uh, yes, you're.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Right, Chris, that is my rain man.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
That is my one.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Fucking I don't know why, but it's just.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Adding the numbers up and everything, just like great Man.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
But just just walking around muttering to himself. Broncos, Broncos,
Dallas Capitals, Broncos.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Unrelated. But I kind of missed that excitement of seeing
like a new trailer in the theater during like the
early days of the internet, for like when it didn't
you couldn't just watch it like on your phone, which
I which is all I do now.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And for some reason, things ever are
surprised by the time I get to the movie. Oh,
for sure, it's it looks it looks cool, like big,
but I've.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Already seen it. Yeah, and what movie?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Some movie made a shitload of money because everybody went
to that movie just to watch the Star Wars one
of them.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I have one of them, yes, okay, So so for
some reason it made me think of buying tickets to
and I had to look this up and it took
a little while to look up. But Monsters inc. Just
to watch the Attack of the Clones trailer, which I
went with Joe, and I'm assuming it happened with a
Fantom menace probably made like whichever trailer that was released,
some fun of which I didn't think about, but that
one probably made way more. But I know I was
with Joe because we were with our friend and you

(09:54):
guys left to go watch I can't. I think you
guys went to left to watch a horror movie and
I stayed with Sam and watched Mons and I was like,
oh this is I feel okay about this because that
was a good movie. But there was nothing like just
watching that trailer, Like I know I did that at
least once because I did it with The Dark Knight
Too or The Dark Knight Rises, And it was before
Mission Impossible, like they had like.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
That's when they do like the big imax, like yeah,
you see, and it's not just a trailer, right yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, that was with like a seven minute like that
plain footage from The Dark Knight Rises. Yep, basically. But
we also got to watch Ghost Protocols so that worked, Doug, Great,
that's good.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, the water Boy Meet Joe Black and Siege.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
It was with three movies. Yeah, wow. Yeah. Attack of
the Clones I was when I researched it. They had
a deal with Disney or whoever to release in front
of Monsters inc.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Hm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, and look what happened.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
You say Disney on Star Wars now.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, but I thought you were just like
making a dig at Attack of the Clones. Which that's
the best one. Now you said Phantom Mezica the best one. No,
the Phantom Menace is definitely the best one. That was
for a change, just to piss the most people. No, No,
that that was for Erica. Who thinks Attacked the Clones
is the best out of the first three. I'm like,
that is the worst one. Because she's right here that
that one's just not good.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Out of the first three. Yeah, that's the worst one.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
The Fan Minutes is just the best Star Wars movie. Yes,
Erica still thinks Attacked the Clones the best one. Sand
Hate Sand That's not bad. It is.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Of course, it's rough and it does get everywhere. Yeah,
it's of course it's irritating.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
And he isn't wrong.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
He's not wrong.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I hate sand too.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
In San Diego Lake missed the beach.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I'm like, no, I want to be there.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Erica gets it. She's she's in blathe at the time.
She's like, of course, I hate sand too. This guy's
he's fucking nailing. Its speaking my language.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
It's basically tattooine of California, California.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
It is er out there, like I didn't kill not
just the men, but the women and the children.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
There's actually a bar that just plays that cantina song
that's er until they plays that once anyway. Okay, moving on, Okay,
So they also promoted the movie at the Can Film Festival,
which I always want to say Cans can just it
just sounds like Can Film Festival. It's like a can
It's an I don't know anyway.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
And film Festival for goats.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Goats are sitting there eating cans. Anyway, May two, thousan three,
they threw a big, like super elaborate party, and I
wanted to share a couple of quotes from the Variety
article covering it because they're a great Okay, so they
describe arriving and it says, quote, after fifteen minutes, yes,

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fifteen minutes, a pair of ten foot metal robots emerged
and pointed their artillery end quotes hands at the crowd. Suddenly,
mister A rose from the stage. The gates parted, and
the star appeared, shouting hello. Everybody drew loose from hundreds
of fans, which is just great because I read that.
I could totally hear him saying like, hello everybody, because I.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Know everybody, because that's what it does.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
But okay, the second one's the best, and no setup,
just because okay, it says quote after posing for the photographers,
he left with the promise I'll be back, which he
never says seriously when he's doing that. But anyway, so
it continues saying, and the giant robots started bobbing their
heads and waving their arms in time with reggae pop music?

Speaker 8 (13:50):
Why, oh my god, those those fucking Mario gasar in
the interventional note to throw a fucking party, Because when
I read that, I was like, holy shit, just imagine
the Terminator robots, like, yeah, that's to like, what's reggae pup.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Red red wine or the only thing that would make
that better is if it was if it was too
uh fucking uh, mister.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I was just thinking. I was just thinking Shaggy, like
because that's my I don't know what was it me
or fucking uh what's this the when I get high
or something like that. That's yeah, Like I don't know
what reggae pop is.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
I don't I don't think that's reggae.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
But anyway, I'd say, yeah, reggae pop is. You probably
write more Shaggy or Sean Paul.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
It wasn't me or something in there like that's uh anyway, Okay.
So Terminator three reds in the Machines prepared in Monday,
June thirtieth, two thousand and three, at the Man Theater
in Los Angeles, California. With its nationwide release on Wednesday,
July second, two thousand and three, it took the top
spot at the box office of July fourth weekend, making

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forty four million, which technically made it the biggest opening
weekend for an rmal movie, beating out Batman and Robbin's
forty two point eight million, unless you take inflation into account,
which pumps Batman and Robbin up to forty nine and
makes T three his second biggest opening. Anyway, as always,
let's check out the box office top ten for the week,
which is a very early two thousands list. So you

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had Terminado three at number one. Number two was Legally
Blonde two Red, White and Blonde, which made twenty two
point two million and was the other like new release
of the week. Nice also a disappointing, disappointing sequel. I've
never seen that one.

Speaker 7 (15:36):
Have you seen that one?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, we will. We watched it when it came.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Oh, you actually went to the theater and watch it.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I don't think we went to the I think we
went to like Blockbuster and rented Wait, who's we me
and my parent?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Like I forgot who You're a lot younger than we are.
I was thirteen.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
You watch it with I don't remember actually saying it,
but I watched the Lee Blonde again recently. I'm like, damn,
this movie's good.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
And then I asked my wife. She's like, nah, two
kind of sucks. We're not watching that movie. Okay, all right, okay, anyways, okay,
So number three was Charlie's and it was a lot
of sequels, by the way. Number three was Charlie's Angel's
Full Throttle, which made fourteen million. Never saw it, but
it was directed by McGee, who would go on to
direct Terminator Salvation in two thousand and nine. And I

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don't think I saw. I think I might have seen
the first one, but I definitely didn't see the second one.
I've never seen them anyway. Number three Finding Nemo or sorry,
Number four Finding Nemo eleven million, which I believe is
the only other movie in the top ten that I
saw in the theater besides Terminator three.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
How long had that been out at that point?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I am pretty sure because I looked I was like,
holy shit, I think it was like six weeks at
this point. So and it was still hanging in at four,
which we'll get to a good one. Yeah, we'll get
to why like in a in a little bit. But
number five was Hulk, which was eight point two million. Yep,
I did see that in theaters.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
So far, I've seen three of these in theaters.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Okay, number six, I guarantee any that you saw in theaters,
which was Sinbad Legends of the Seven Seas, which made
six million and was animated. Did you watch that? This
was also a new release.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Two thousand and three. I always think of that movie
as like a late nineties movie.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Wow. Well I wanted to.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
See it, but then I realized it wasn't Sinbad.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
It was so bad. Oh, like you wanted to see
like from from like you were like jingle like the
way high.

Speaker 9 (17:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, so, uh, Finding Nemo was released Ma eighteenth, two
thousand and three.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
So yeah, so about six months or six six months,
six weeks?

Speaker 9 (17:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
So apparently this movie was a huge bomb and ended
up sorry Sinbad not Finding Nemo, huge bomb and ended
up leading to DreamWorks switching their focus to three D
animated films. This was actually the last hand drawn animated
movie that they released.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Wow, because it did so well and the rest that
probably was not the problem.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Well the rest of the fucking dream Works fell apart too.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I watched it.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Oh, really YouTube documentaries about it. Oh, they were getting
into movies and video games and had like all their
other and like.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
TV shows like Spreading Themselves Too Thinner.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Yeah, and it just all kind of didn't work out,
and I think they ended up getting sold back to
fucking Disney.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Uh So number seven twenty eight days later, six million
watched it once. I don't remember. Apparently that's one of
the good ones on this list. I don't.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, good movie.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
That's a great movie. I did see that in theaters.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Also, Okay, I gotta watch that one again because I
it's apparently one of the better zombie movies. Danny Boyle, Yeah, no,
that's a really fucking good movie. So holds up. Okay,
Number eight with the Italian Job four point one million,
and it's a lot of these theaters I didn't want.
I've seen it, and it's mart it's Mark Wahlberg, and
I it's Edward Norton being forced to do a movie,

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which I'm pretty sure this was part of. I think
he ended up making a deal with whoever distributed this movie,
and he got stuck doing this movie because of the
deal that he made. Was one of the three movies anyway.
Number nine was Bruce Almighty, which okay, hey, Joe, will
you look how long Bruce Almighty had been in theaters
at that point.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yes, I believe I did see that in theaters.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Also did not see that one either.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
That was good.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I mean, you guys were going to the movie a
lot more or sorry Joe, Wait, why wasn't I invited
to any any.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
That might have been around the time where you stopped
hanging out with us?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
So yeah, it was yours, that makes sense. Also, there
was May fourteenth, thing got released, okay, so this was
about six weeks later to ish, Yeah, five or six
weeks okay, and then number ten was too Fast, too Furious,
which I know I've seen, but i've I don't know anyway,
this is probably just me talking trash, but apparently it's not,

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because this seems like kind of a like EH list
for the forth of July weekend. But you guys have
seen a bunch of them, like with the exceptional like
Fanny Nemo and apparently twenty eight days later, like just
the quality.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
It's a lot of sequels too.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Which yeah, I mean that would become more and more
of the thing as the two thousands went on. Yeah,
for sure, like a lot more sequels and franchise stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
So anyway, T three lasted one week at the top
spot due to a couple of pretty big films opening
during its second week. Well, one really big film and
then another one that I was expected to be big,
but I'm pretty sure ended up bombing and may or
may not have caused Sean Connery to retire from acting.
So yep, saw that one in theaters.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Ideally that movie was dogs.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah really, okay, So I'm talking about League of Extraordinary
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which you guys both saw
in theaters. Yeah, it's really that bad.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
It's pretty bad. Like it's it's like a When I
was thirteen, it was like perfectly entertaining, but it's it's
pretty goddamn bad.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Okay, I he's nineteen. It was pretty dog shit. So
I haven't seen it since. Well, it opened up as
the number two movie that weekend, earning twenty three million,
and bumping Terminator three, which made nineteen million to the
three spot, and both those movies didn't even come close
to beating that week's number one film, which was a
live action adventure fantasy film from Disney that would eventually

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end up as one of the top grossing movies of
two thousand and three, and he guesses as to what
that might be.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Fantasy in two thousand and three Holes.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Holes. Well, that's sorry, that's why they guess because I
don't know. I'm actually curious because that's around the right
time for that. No, it is around the right time.
I was just like, I would never would have guessed
that Holes would have made that much funny.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
It's a good movie.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Okay, So it's based on one of the theme park rides.
Oh Pirates, Oh shit, yeah, which was I saw that
in theaters.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, I saw that theater.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
I definitely didn't see that in theaters.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I saw all these movies the home when we were uh,
when we were in the big hass, that's what I saw.
But anyway, so yes, Pirates of the Caribbean Curse of
the Black Pearl pulled in forty six point six million
its opening weekend, making more than the combined weekend total
box office totals of both League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which
was twenty three million and Terminator three, which was nineteen Granted,

(22:20):
Terminator three did do that the week before, but it
was also competing like it did it with like the
top I think four movies, but it was also competing
with like like you're competing against a I feel like
it's a bit different with your Pirates because you're going
up against a Terminator movie.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, you're going up against Terminator and.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Ordinary gentleman.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, leaving a sordinary gentlemen. But like whereas Terminator was
going up a bunch of shit that was still popular
from six.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Weeks ago exactly already out. I think Charlie's Angels was
on like the second week. Legally Blonde is a comedy,
and it's a romantic comedy, so.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's kind of like programming two team Terminator.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
It's exactly so it's like it is, but it's like
for a different audience.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, but like that was like I was like, holy shit,
they doubled the buck anyway. Yeah, but yeah. So Terminator
three eventually ends up with a total worldwide box office
gross of four hundred and thirty three point three to
seven million, which made it the seventh highest grossing movie
of two thousand and three, behind the Lord of the Rings,
Return of the King, which made one point one billion,

(23:24):
Damn Finding Nemo, which made nine hundred and forty one million.
Also yep, yeah, the Matrix reloaded seven hundred and forty million.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Parts of the Caribbean, the Crsal Black Pearl six hundred
and fifty four million, Brussel Mighty, which made four hundred
and eighty four million, which I did not realize how
popular that movie was, And that's crazy for a comedy.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I mean comedies used to do big business. Yeah,
like this, this is starting to get out of that era.
But yeah, Jim Carrey movies were just like I feel.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Like, I'm curious if this was his last, like like
one that placed in like the top ten or top fifteen.
What was after this? Like Dick and Jane And then.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yes Man was a few years after this, and then
that was like two thousand and seven or something.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, which probably did okay, but like I can't imagine
maybe uh okay, not huge like this I Love You,
Phillip Morris. Yeah yeah, that was that was more independent though,
so that's like a yeah, that's like an indie movie.
I can't think of one that was like big like that,
but I don't know anyway. And then the Last Samurai,

(24:29):
which did four hundred and fifty four million, which was
number six, and then you had what was I seventh? Yeah,
which and then you had to me to run under
that anyway? Also what was eight nine and ten?

Speaker 7 (24:41):
I did not look it up?

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Okay, well let's give it hey everyone, Joe here quick note.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
We actually put our crack researcher Nigel on to find
out what was eight nine and ten for these movies.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
But yeah, to give you that info that we may
have been too lazy to look up.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, but that old bloke passed out, so I guess
I'll just read them off for you. So at number
eight we have the Maintrix.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
Well, welcome back, Nigel.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Hi Nigel.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Do you have too much sleepy tea or not enough
waky tea or whatever the you guys call it.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
Have we started yet?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
We're yeah, just reading the numbers right now, just starting
to read them off. But you know this is your work,
so yeah, you go ahead, take take it over.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
Oh yeah, you was two thousand and three England.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Defeated, Nigel, No one cares. Just get to the mess. Yeah,
just Joe, you can just read them off. Well, let's
let's let that Nigel do the numbers. How's that? Okay?
All right?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
All right, So, as I said before, a number eight
we had May Chicks Revolutions.

Speaker 7 (26:02):
And how much did that make? Nigel four hundred twenty
seven point three million.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Dollars not quit or whatever you guys called over it.
At number nine we had X two X men United.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
How much did that make Nigel.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
Four hundred seven point seven million?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
That's true? All right, okay, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
At number ten we had a Bad Voice too.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
How much did that wreake in there?

Speaker 7 (26:38):
Nigel starring WILLIAMS Smith?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Okay, and that made how much?

Speaker 7 (26:43):
Two hundred seventy three point three million.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
That's a hell of a drop from four hundred and
seven to two hundred and seventy three. Yeah, like a
big gap, which I mean, I guess makes sense because
all those are all sequels, but like just because I
don't know, it's just a way bigger movie.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Well, I mean it depends on when they came out,
so yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, but you know, Nigel's British,
so he's probably thinking mine the gap on this one.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
Nigel's and club.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
But all right, well, thank you Nigel.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
I appreciate you doing this research and jumping on here
really quick from your little Navski.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
So yeah, seriously, thank you so much, Nigel. You always
do such a great job.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
With this stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
And it's just a really big nuh piece of sleep again.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
All right, that's it, so.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Uh back to the regular episode.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
How did he do that?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Anyway?

Speaker 4 (27:44):
I know?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I also said that the list of top ten movies
for the week that T three was released were kind
of yeah, but half of them ended up placing the
top fifteen crossing films for that year. And I don't
remember how I startled. Oh, by the way, the uh,
the half of them would be so it was Finding Nemo,
Terman Three, Hulk, Bruce Almighty, and Charlie's Angels were all
in the top fifteen. And I don't remember how I

(28:07):
stumbled across this, but apparently two thousand and three was
one of the best years as far as total box
office sales. Like when the numbers are adjusted for inflation,
two thousand and three ends up possibly being the second
highest grossing year ever. Damn yeah after what two Yeah,

(28:29):
two thousand and two was with Spider Man, and I think, oh, yeah,
got it, and then I think it was two thousand.
It went like two three and four, I believe, not
just the Spider Man, but the Spider women and Spider
children too.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yes, exactly, so we call a callback in the comedy business, folks.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
This might be not be entirely accurate, by the way,
because the list I found only goes back to nineteen
ninety five and is only for domestic releases. Got so
I started doing more digging because I'm crazy and uh
like really anal and be like not having a definitive
answer for it just eats away at me. Just But
I finally had to force myself to move on once

(29:10):
I realized I'd wasted fucking hours hours trying to find
out what was like, like, seriously, there's one thing later
that I spent more time doing, but like like wait
till I'm like this isn't this doesn't matter, why are
you keep doing this? And then like I try to
pull myself away, but then I started I just went
right back to it anyway. But basically, it appears that

(29:30):
the more modern method of tracking box office numbers didn't
really seem to begin until the early eighties, but supposedly
ticket sales in like the nineteen forties and fifties were
the highest they've ever been domestically due to the being
like the forties and fifties, and they're being like nothing
else to fucking do, Like you can either go to
the movies, you can make babies, or you can dine
in a war, like in that order pretty much like

(29:51):
I don't know, i'd originally had like turning like like
turning on jukeboxes by kicking on that list, But that's
part of the like the making babies part, so like
because what else are you gonna do? You're like, hey,
that's what makes it the Golden Age, especially that dig
in the war.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Anyway, Uh, So I believe the I think I read.
I was also drinking when I started, Like I was like,
this is taking too long, and it went long enough
to where it's a transitioned from me just doing research
and waiting to work and then tour I wasn't gonna
work anymore. I'm like, well, might as well make some
drinks anyway, So I believe I read the studios weren't
in the practice of releasing box office numbers for movies

(30:30):
unless it was a big release. But I read a
lot of stuff and then the vodka, you know, so
that might not be one hundred percent correct, but like
it sounds like, yeah, like if they were't going to
release the numbers unless it was like a huge release
and basically bragging again nobody.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's it with that stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
So you guys want to check out some videos for this, Yeah,
let's do it. Bach sort of videos anyway. I say
sort of because this first one is actually from two
thousand and two and it's with Arnold on Live with
Regis and Kelly to promote Collateral Damage. And I believe
they're doing like a fashion week on the show. So
that's why res is kind of dressed up like a

(31:08):
leather daddy on his way to church for some reason.
I don't know, you'll see it like he's it's just
the best anyway, and they're not really talking about much,
so I guess let's just play it for a couple
of minutes to hear about Arnold and he talks about
hanging out with that famous like French singer Jean. Yeah.

(31:29):
So that's the first one.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
It should be uh thirteen world bodybuilding titles, the one
of the oldly the three Oak, Arnold Schwartzdegga.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
See you again.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
If it wasn't for the chain, I would think Reis
might be going for Pirate too.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Wow, here we are, here, we are saying who's got
the best.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
It turns out that Arnold's got the best.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Oh my god, you have some silver studded.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
Christmas good for my wife. Really taste. And it takes
a half a year to build those. They make those
hand tools the movie silver the leather.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Happy, you're the build yours?

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Yeah? Happy? You have to make those shoes.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
They gotta be twenty six to twenty dollars, right.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
Actually I got them for fifty dollars.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Now, are people afraid to make things like that for you?
Are they afraid that you're going to come in as
maybe the terminator if they screw it up and don't.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
Get it right, Well, they know there's big, big trouble
if they if they screw it up. But you know,
it's funny. And I have like twenty some piers of
booths and I love orders, and so I said to
myself today I have to have this on because it's
a special week. But you guys dress up as different characters.
You're like a rock and roll guy.

Speaker 10 (32:50):
You tried to do that.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Abano or somebody that show. Yeah, yeah, Well I talked
to a Bunchoby just earlier, and he said to me,
he's so angry that you look better than him.

Speaker 11 (33:01):
Yeah, good friends and bunch always got electing career going
with Alan McField.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
But I understand you want to play in his band.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
I do, Yeah, I mean I think it was so satisfying.
Imagine to be able to entertain one hundred thousand people
in the stadium like he does, must be extored. What
instrument do you play? I would like to pay them
all because I'm so bad in reality.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
If anybody booed you in any way, you could come
off the stage and smash them in the head with your.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
Idea. If you should be together on that stage, check
it off.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
It's funnier than I remember. I've never really watched this
show like live or whatever, so I don't know if
this is like in the normal format, but Reaches is
pretty good at just making it seem like you're just
watching them.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Bullshit, like yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I don't know if I don't know if maybe like
he was, I noticed the question this time, but the
first time I was like they weren't talking about anything,
like yeah exactly, which I noticed this time. He asked
him a question but he's Yeah, Richards was very good
at that. I don't know, yep. Anyway, Okay, so this
next one is a little bit more Terminator adjacent. It's

(34:15):
Claire Dane's in two thousand and three on Late Night
with Conan O'Brien. She's there promoting her movie The Hours,
which I think we talked about, but she also talks
to Conan about filming Terminator three. And we're gonna start
with Conan, Cony. We're gonna start with Conan telling a story.
Why am I correcting it? Now? That's weird anyway, telling

(34:35):
a story I believe we've heard before, but it leads
into a pretty good story from Claire Danes. So go ahead,
is it? I mean working with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 10 (34:44):
We've had him on the show and would surprise me
and I shouldn't say that because I'd always heard this,
but he seemed like a very funny guy.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, he is funny.

Speaker 9 (34:51):
You know, he's as much of a comic as he
is an action hero, sometimes unintentionally because you know, he's
such an icon. It's artling to see, you know, him
sort of behave as a human being. And you know,
he would say, I'm hungry. I'm on the eggs.

Speaker 10 (35:09):
Ye things. It's really funny. Yeah, yeah, I guess where
to god this is true. I was like a year
ago I went to this place in Mexico my wife
and we're like it was just after I got married,
and we're just hanging out there and it was this
nice little resort. And then we're there having breakfast in
the morning and I see Arnold and his wife and
their kids come in and Arnold's holding the bag full.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Of like kids toys and stuff like.

Speaker 10 (35:33):
That, and you know, I just think of him as
the action hero and the Terminator.

Speaker 9 (35:36):
Startling to seem out of content, and.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
He was saying things like, no, stay away from the.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Cut it out with your kids.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
It was really funny to see him. I'm actually curious
if that's the first instance of Conan telling that particular Arnold's.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Story, Yeah, because I know I've heard it before, but
it's probably Yeah, that's probably one of the first times,
because that was he said like a year ago.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, And I mean, who else is he I don't know,
I guess anybody he talks on singer about. But anyway,
but no, he was very generous.

Speaker 9 (36:13):
Actually, because my boyfriend's nephew just had had his bar
mitzvah during the course of the shooting, and I was
meant to go and I couldn't. I had to miss
it because I was, you know, you were fleeing from
you know, machines that were going to devastate the world.
And so so I thought, oh, it would be kind
of cool if like Arnold did a little tape, you know,

(36:35):
to happy birth.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
To say oh that's cool.

Speaker 9 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and you know, because congratulations and
becoming a man and stuff. And he he was very
cooperative and he just put together the most awesome barmits
for video.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
It was great. Well kind of thing was he's saying
on a barmits for video?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
What do you want to know?

Speaker 10 (36:53):
I'm just curious, what's Arnold say on a barments for video?

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Well, you think you've become a man, But it digs
a lot more than just tonally thirteen.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
You know, you have to thank your parents every day,
all day long.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
You know, it's to me, it sounds really menacing. Do
you think you become a mom? You have to become
a mob.

Speaker 9 (37:19):
It's a very encouraging way actually, Like, but he did
this really cool gag where he put his thumb in
his mouth and mouth and he blew his muscles up.
He went, let me pump my muscles up. I can't
do it, obviously, this is.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I can't do it either.

Speaker 10 (37:35):
Iagine, you know, you probably have more arm muscle than
I do.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
That would be a pretty sweet bar mitzvah gift to
get basically a cameo from Ron Schwartzenegger.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, I think the one I've heard about that is
like and then ND gives the phone call. He's like,
I saw you on the news, and he gets the
calls hello or something.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
So I just love the missus doubt fire, just as
Arnold impression. It's just like when it eventually like breaks
down until like that just making noises, okay. And then
before we get to the last one, I had one
thing I left out of the premiere info that I
wanted to cover real fast because it leads into something

(38:19):
that we were supposed to watch on here as part
of the promo stuff. And I'll explain why we're not
going to but anyway, so yeah, like I said, Terminator
three was released uh July second, twos and two. It
then began its international rollout on July third, with Arnold
attending the July fifth premiere in Tokyo that basically kicked
off his international press tour, and Arnold actually mentions in

(38:41):
his book that he made a quick stop before the
Tokyo premiere in order to celebrate the July fourth holiday.
With US troops stationed and in Iraq, Iraq. He even
had a special screen of Tremier three for the troops
while I was there, although it took place at a
somewhat unorthodox location, which Arnold says, like he describes in

(39:04):
his twenty twelve book Total recall the name of the book,
but he says quote on July fourth, three months after
US led coalition forces had seized Baghdad, I was in
the Iraqi capitol showing Terminator three and entertaining troops at
a former palace of the top old dictator Saddam Hussein. Yeah,
which just is crazy, and it sounds.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
He had a nice movie theater.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
It just sounds like some coworker who's always embellishing stories
would say, you guys are watching Terminator three. Man, I
have not seen that since I watched it with Arnold
Schwartzeneger that one time. It's Saddam Hussein's palace, Like, you know,
it just sends it just it sounds like something that
doesn't happen. I don't know, it's just weird anyway. Sorry.

(39:52):
Arnold then explains how he entertained troops while simultaneously giving
us a textbook example of a mistake a lot on
new comics make, not being able to read a room.
So he says, quote, I opened as I always do
with the joke. He then explains his joke. He says,
and it's quotes in quotes, but uh, it is really

(40:12):
wild driving around here. I told him, I mean the
poverty and you see there's no money. It is disastrous financially,
and then there's a leadership vacuum pretty much like in
California right now. End quote. And I'm just like, there's
no mention of whether or not that joke landed. But
that's probably the wrong crowd to be joking around with,

(40:32):
like I know, he's like, especially because no one knows
at this point that he's running for governor California because
it's still a secret. Yeah, and he hasn't announced it,
so it's probably not the best idea to compare like
a war torn your Iraq to California. But as I
don't know a dick about politics, like I can just imagine,
like it just kind of quiet, and then like one
guy starts crying thinking about how he like shot some

(40:54):
people the other day, Like I just like, I don't know,
it's just you got to read the room, bud.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I mentioned this because the segues into what I originally
wanted to show us, which was a clip of his
appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno on August sixth,
two thousand and three, where he announces his candidacy. But
it has been completely scrubbed from the internet, which really yeah,
which I found kind of strange, like I could could
not find it anywhere. I This was the other thing

(41:25):
when I said earlier that I spent way too much
time looking for I spent basically my whole day looking
fucking clipped, and I knew it didn't exist anywhere because
there's someone I found a Reddit thread of this guy
that was talking about He's like, I need to find
this clip because my professor at whatever school he was
going to says, he's like I used to have he

(41:47):
used to have the clip, but he got like he
didn't save it. Got archived or he got deleted or whatever,
and he didn't save it correctly. And he says to
anyone that finds a clip gets an automatic a. You've
got people like trying to help him find it, and
he's like, I knew this clip didn't exist, but I
kept I went through with the archives, like it was

(42:09):
such a waste of a day.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Is there a reason? Well, it seems to.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Have no idea. I was trying to think of that too.
Like NBC had even had it on their website, like
as part of like a like a clip from the
like Leno or whatever, and it's just it says not
available anymore. So I don't know. Anyway, Anyway, there's a
tiny clip from the episode from like that's on a
news report that I'm gonna show you.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Got which is what we're about to watch.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
But oh okay, it's it's like very tiny, So I'm
gonna stop you and then we'll skip forward a little bit. Anyway,
go ahead, gotcha?

Speaker 11 (42:42):
Adrian Britain reports Watzenegger unashamedly bringing showbis to politics. Arnold
Schwarzenegger chose the Jay Leno Tonight Show to announce he's
running for office. As he called on the people of
California to ads to the current governor is failing them
terribly and.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
This is why he needs to be recalled, and this
is why I'm going to run for governor.

Speaker 11 (43:09):
After hinting.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
This was Hollywood, you can skip to two ten, but
holy shit, they go crazy.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I wonder if that breaks some sort of campaign law,
him making an announcement for his candidacy and also sort
of badmouthing who was it, Jack gray Davis Gray Davis who? Yeah,
I couldn't remember who, but like sort of bad mouthing
the current governor when he's going to be running or
what like to call for a recall. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
It just seems like, what do you mean like badmouthing,
Like like he can't say anything bad.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
About if he is going to campaign as a Republican
in a race for the governor. There are laws on
the books about about networks being able to give time
to candidates, like you have to give equal time to
all to god parties, gotcha? And so I wonder if

(44:01):
him announcing it on a major network when the other side. Again,
it's like a weird thing because he's not technically running
against anyone yet but I don't know. Yeah, I'm just
wondering if NBC is like we're gonna scrub that because
it's not strictly super legal.

Speaker 10 (44:17):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah, I don't know. Like he was, he definitely had
like advisors at this time because, like I said, like
like we discussed, he was already thinking about running before
shooting term year three.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
So yeah, so time where you want me to skip
two uh two ten?

Speaker 3 (44:30):
If you want to go back a few seconds, it
just shows the other candidates, which is just they're basically
go go, keep going, keep going a little bit right there.

Speaker 11 (44:40):
Okay, But like his screen character, he says he's going
to brave it out. You'll have some eccentric rivals to
compete against the current governor, Gray Davis.

Speaker 9 (44:48):
We've had enough gray and brown and we need pink
in California.

Speaker 11 (44:53):
Then there's the poem publisher Larry Flint.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Well for a smart peddler who cares kind of on
an election.

Speaker 11 (45:00):
Will be anything but dreary. Americans thrive on celebrity status,
although is known about.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Okay, first of all, those those two were that was
Angeline or whatever, and then Larry Flint. But first of all,
I love how the British reporter do it is like
Americans thrive on celebrity status, which is great coming from
a country's paparazzi Andromedia had like at least a small
part in Princess Diana dying. So whatever, those Americans, they
love those celebrities. And then the like Prince walks by,

(45:31):
he's like, holy croipies, I don't know, goes running after him,
like you you fuckers are still focused on that ship.
Like Kate Middleton, they basically had to make you feel
bad about her having cancer to leave her alone. Yeah,
so anyway, sorry, this isn't a written now, this is
meat ranting, but anyway, but yeah, like I said before,

(45:51):
we'll eventually end up covering his political career in a
bonus episode, so uh, we're gonna just move past it
for now. So let's move on. This is the last one.
It's actually something I'm sure you've both seen before, and
it's actually a deleted scene from the movie. And I
believe I might be wrong about this, but I believe
it's the only deleted scene from the film that they

(46:12):
actually released, because I know there's a few others, but
do you guys know which one I'm talking about before
we watch it.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Uh yeah, I'm pretty sure I know exactly which one
you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Joe, Yeah, possibly, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes I do.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Especially when you see the titles up there. Yeah, okay, okay,
So this is a deleted scene from Trimier three which
explains exactly why the T one on one model looks
like Arnold Schwarzeninger.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
So let's watch it, all right.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Oh, it's gonna sorry, it's gonna end up leading into
the teaser trailer that I was talking about. Oh okay, yeah,
which is at the end of this. But I saw
it and I was like, fuck, it, might as well
watch it because it's fucking awesome. It's like a minute long.
But anyway, go ahead, all right and play. Hey guys,
Aaron cutting in here once again to that you know that.
We're only going to play a tiny part of the

(47:03):
deleted scene because it's a bit long and can be
sort of hard to follow with just the audio. But
if you want to check out as goofy is Hell scene,
we actually included the YouTube link in the episode description,
so you can find it there. We're also going to
post the entire scene on our socials, so definitely make
sure to check them out. Oh and we also did
end up watching the Terminator to teaser trailer, which is

(47:23):
just awesome and is actually included at the end of
that same deleted scene video that I just mentioned, which
you can find a link for in the episode description.
So yeah, check those out, but for now, enjoy this
cartoony as hell clip from the deleted scene using designs
generated by Skynett.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
We need no longer risk the well being of our
men and women in uniform.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Robots will take their place on the front line. Ah
our cheap best sauder wheel candy. I was on it
to be selected by cis in allgoing effan to sable
mac Love.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
I don't know about that accent.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
We can fix it. You got the face, it's me
okay real quick. So much. We just watched the Teeth

(48:26):
Too trail and how much better is that than that?
So much? Like when I watched it the first time,
like recently, I was like, holy shit, I want to
watch you too now. Yeah, that tread is fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah that would work as just the trailer, but that
was just the teaser.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah, yeah, the teaser, but it's so good. But secondly,
like as far as the uh sorry that that deleted scene, Yeah, ship,
that's dumb.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
So in case you decided very dumb, in case you
decided not to watch it, every time you hear that
cartoonish southern voice, it's coming out of our old's mouth. Yeah,
and he's playing like a military officer.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
They dubbed him very good.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Like it just it's not very good. But also I
think it's a function of the fact that that is
such a cartoonishly stupid.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Like yeah accent. Yeah, I don't know, but okay. So
Jonathan Mosto actually explained to the Hollywood News dot Com
in twenty seventeen why he took the scene out, and
also gave an explanation about amping up the comedy in
the film, so saying quote, with that film, we already
knew we were facing a tremendous audience. My biggest concern

(49:34):
was that we would let them down after trying to
fill the big shoes of James Cameron. I wanted the
audience to accept us and not think of us as
a shameless effort to try and take their money. So
I made a conscious decision to use comedy as a
method of disarming the audience. I thought that if I
could make them laugh, they would unfold their arms.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
A little bit, which sure, sure, vallid I guess.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
But with the serage and candy scene, we thought that
was a bit of a step too far. There was
too much comedy in that scene, and it was funny,
but ultimately too much. That's why I decided to take
the sequence out In retrospect. The humor side of the
film was one of the biggest criticisms from the core
fan base. I think they would have preferred a more
serious film, which yeah, yep, yeah, but oh and hey,

(50:21):
since we're already at it, may we may as well
hear the rest of what Jonathan Mostow had to say
when looking back at the film, And I also have
a few comments from clar Dane's Arnold and James Cameron.
First off, though I don't think I mentioned it before,
I'm pretty sure I didn't, but Terminator three has a
seventy percent Fresh Tomato rating.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
That is surprising.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yeah, that was surprising when I saw that. What was
the last one we looked at? Was it red? I
mean it had to be red heat, Yeah, but yeah,
it's so it's it ties, it with Tornado Dark Fate,
which was also surprising. I mean, I like that movie,
but like, yeah, every with hits on it, but it
ties it for third. As far as a Tomato Meter

(51:04):
rating for Terminator movies, with it beating Terminator Salvations thirty
three percent and Terminator Genesis twenty six percent. Hmmm, which
I would have thought those were flip flop.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Yeah, that's kind of crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (51:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Anyway, as far as the cast and crew. Looking back
on the movie, let's start with Claire Dance, who didn't
really seem like she was interested in doing any more
action films, even during interviews she was doing four Terminator three,
saying in a two thousand and three interview with BBC
to promote the movie, saying, quote, it's not on my
immediate agenda. It wasn't like I was hankering to make

(51:37):
an action movie. It appeared it was an anomalous occurrence.
So smart this is that Harvard or wherever she went
standard thinking it's an education anomalists like who says.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
That San Francisco State one of those great schools. She
like to college to say that one of those schools
and one of those top ten in the us.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
She says, I'm thankful for it, but because I had
a wonderful time, But I don't imagine I'm going to
be in the habit of doing huge blockbusters end quote.
She wasn't wrong, yeah, because she also she also told
I g n when asked about a possible tomat or
four quote, I mean, I guess I'm available. I mean
I'm contractually obliged whoopee. And it says whoopee, but without

(52:22):
the quotation mark, like the exclamation mark. Oh okay, yeah,
it says whoopye. So she must have been like, whoopie, because.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
That's that's my exact response when my wife wants to
hang out with me, or the question.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Or the question mark is just unsaid.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
Well, it's supposed to be joking, you guys, you're supposed
to laugh like he did.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Or Laura, that's like, that's like a king uh King
of Queen's joke. He's like, whenever my wife, that's like
a sitcom joke. Whmember my wife on staying out with me?
You know that nag ship again.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
So getting old, you're making CBS comedy jokes, Yeah, like
take my wife please, you know stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Seriously, I'm gonna fucking kill her.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
She continues. She says, it's very ambiguous the whole issue
whether or not we're gonna make yet another installment. But
she does not sound jazz whatsoever, which I don't blame her.
Like looking through her IMDb. The closest she came to
action with Homeland, and I think that's more of like
a political.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I was just about to ask about that because I've
never seen it. I don't know how actiony it is
or not it looked.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
I feel like it's uh, did interview watch the Americans? No,
watch the first season? Oh, that's right, we talked about that.
Not not on here, but we did. I feel like
it's more like like closer to that, to where it's
not like it's like what is it's a political thriller
the right shoe, Like that's what you would call it,
Like it's not action.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Yeah, you can have like action thrillers. Like I just
got done watching Jonathan Mostow's Breakdown, probably like nice thirty
minutes before. Oh, I've done my homework. I watched Breakdown.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
I watched the game. How'd you like Breakdown?

Speaker 4 (54:06):
I watched Dante's Peak. I like Breakdown.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
You were right. It was good.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
It was exactly what I was expecting. Like I think,
I think I just really like like thrillers.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Nineties thrillers. Yeah, because you watch the game, too, write
and that was.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
I love the game, like, I mean too Fair's pretty
high when I watched it the first time. But you know,
I understand why David Fincher doesn't like it. And he
talks about the last start of the movie. I'm not
going to spoil anyway.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Did he did he talk about that movie? Did you
look it up?

Speaker 6 (54:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Some you know YouTube video, But anyways, but yeah, I
watched it and then I actually it was the first
time I rented a movie since Blockbuster. But I rented
it on YouTube or whatever for three bucks and then
I had it for three days and then I watched
it again with my wife before it expired.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
So the game.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Yeah, did you guys watch Breakdown together? Yeah, we just did.
And Dante's peak earlier today.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Also, I mean, it was just as good as you expect,
so like it wasn't you know, when you you have
this idea in your head about a movie like you watched,
you know, when you're you know, I mean every movie
you've watched is when you were younger that my you know,
I think that's a Mitch Hedberg joke. But you know,
like when you're much younger and you're like, oh, I

(55:27):
should revisit that. Maybe it's like way better than I
expected or remembered, or maybe it's like way shittier. Now
this movie was just like right on par like it's
you know, uh, the first half is like a good
build up with Pierce Proudence, who's that man?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Is very fucking handsome.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
Jesus Christy, Wait this was a post Miss Staffire I think, yeah, yes,
and this is this is after Golden I oh so,
because I.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Was like when we watched Miss like whenever Eric watched
Miss Dulphid, I'm like, dude, go for Pierce Brosnan, Come on,
yeah Williams.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
What I mean, Robin Williams is a very hairy, very
loud and funny and see who lives in San Francisco.
So what more do you want than a man? Uh? Hey,
shut up? But yeah, the first half is like setting
up with like Pierce and Linda Ham's, you know, and

(56:26):
it's like a good setup. It's like entertaining, but you know, obviously,
you know, Volcino is gonna fucking explode.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
He's trying to, like Pierce short Brosnan.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
Yes, exactly, God damn. And then you know, like it,
and then it turns into a disaster movie and you know,
chit's always awesome. Also, I think I mentioned might have
been on I don't know how our release is going
to go. So if you're listening to this at home

(56:56):
or on the road or literally if you're listening to
this besides US three talking right now, maybe the same episode.
But uh, I said, I remembered some I believe we
use the term old broad, and when I was listening
back to it, I'm like, is broad offensive?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
I don't know. I mean, I'm sure it.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Is, like a little bit, but like not like, you know,
somewhat depending on the context you use it, probably Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Yeah, So I think I kind of merged like Betty
White in Lake Placid with Yeah, it was Linda Hamilton's
ex mother in law here. She didn't want to leave
her place. Spoilers whatever, it's a fucking twenty five year old,
it's that that good. But she didn't want to leave
her place. So the kids fucking steal a car and
drive up there, and then Pierce and fucking Linda Hams

(57:43):
have to go up to save the kids and then
they're in a boat but the lake is like acid
because of volcano shit. And then she gets out and
like drags the boat so she can save them all,
and uh, the mother in law like, yeah, oh, so
she's the hero in this, I see yep. Yeah, And
then she gets all acid burned in her lower half

(58:04):
and then then dies because because she's old, not because
of the acid.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Really, she dies from the oldness.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
Yeah, she's like normal legs, like normal legs.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
It's not my flesh melting off that I'm dying from.
It's just because I'm old. No, I've lived a good life.
I'm curious if Dante's Peak is better than Volcano, because
I like Volcano.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
But apparently Volcano got a little bit better reviews.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Okay, so I mean that's I think. I feel like
it's more serious too, but it's also like, really is
it because it's a volcano in the middle of la Yeah,
I have to go back and watch that one. I
like that one.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
One thing I will say, which which I love. And
I think I mentioned this on here before, but movies
back in the day just fucking ended like Dante's peak.
I mean, it's a fucking you guys know what's gonna happen,
and like a they all survive, some people die, but
that your main characters like they get saved. Credits like

(59:07):
a breakdown, you know, it was like the climax and then.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Oh yes it does. It does just end.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think there was like another word.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yeah, just when they deal with what they're dealing with.
I think the movie just ends, right, yep.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Yeah, And Demolition Man's the same way.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Uh no, that past the bathroom joke, like the he's like,
but what about the sea shows or something like that.
I'm like, wait a second, you've been here for at
least three days. Have you not like wiped your ass
for three fucking days? Either he either he hasn't wiped
his ass or he's been washing it off in the
sink in the bathroom. Yeah, but seriously, like there's no

(59:52):
other way, like cause he's like I don't understand these
three SIA shows, or he takes he ends up taking
like papers with them in there and wiping his ass off,
like yeah, he's got all those fucking uh indecency finds right, Yeah, yeah,
he's got. He keeps saying, fuck it gets the uh yeah,
the like uh yeah, just to get some more paper

(01:00:13):
from the from the machine. Yeah, uh okay. But but really,
like as far as Breakdown, you saw like the way
that Terminator three should have been more like how breakdown
and you five seven one were like especially breakdown.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
He knows how to do that exactly. I think that's
a lot more of the CEE two boys any Vajina
and Mario Gary Mario Gasar than it is Jonathan Moss.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, those are studio notes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Yeah, but I also have Okay, so let's continue because
I also have stuff because we're gonna move on to
Jonathan Moss out from here. But anyway, so uh, he
would He had a bit more to say about Treminaia three,
talking about it in a few different interviews over the years,
and there was actually a pretty good one he did
with The Vulture in twenty twenty one for the Blu
Ray release of Breakdown, and he's pretty candid about Terman

(01:01:05):
Year three when asked about it isn't Vulture in jail? Yes? Sorry.
He did an interview with Michael Michael Keaton in twenty
twenty one for the Blu ray release of Breakdown. There
you go. You can't do with Michael who can do
a Michael Keaton impression? Kind of it's just moving your
head while you're talking. It's like doing this somebody did.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
I've seen plenty of movies with Michael Keaton and I
can't tell you. I can't even imagine his voice in
my hand. Very intense, but I don't even know the voice.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yes, somebody on SNL did a Michael Keaton but I
can't remember who it was. It was good, like a
celebrity Jeopardy. It was at least recognizable. I don't know
if it was like good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Okay, Well it also says Michael Keaton right below, so yeah,
but no, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
It was okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
But anyway, so they asked him about the bleak ending,
and he attributes it to the film technically being an
independent release, and it actually was touted as like the
most expensive independent film at the time of its release,
and I'm not sure if it still holds that title.
Feel free to look it up. I don't know, let
us know whoever. Anyway, but yeah, he said that T three.

(01:02:10):
Had T three been a studio film, they never would
have been able to end the movie the way it did,
so he actually makes an interesting observation slash admission while
discussing the ending, saying quote, I also wanted that to
be a surprise for the audience. Are you looking it up?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Chris no no, I I was looking it up. The
highest grossing independent film, which is not the same thing,
is Passion of the Christ, which makes sense, but according
to the Internet at least initial search, Valerian and the
City of a Thousand Planets is considered the most expensive.
Is the movie that the Luke Besan movie or yeah,
it's the one that he kind of like inspired him

(01:02:46):
to make a Fifth Element and then he went, like
twenty years later he went and actually made the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Okay, So yeah, he actually makes an interesting observation slash admission,
want to discussing the ending, saying quote, I also wanted
that to be a surprise for the audio. So we
said to Warner Brothers and Sony, we really want to
keep this a secret. So we scheduled the premiere for
like for just like two nights before. We scheduled it
right before the release, and the publicity people were really

(01:03:12):
good about getting all the journalists to have no spoilers
hold the reviews and everything else. But looking back, I
feel like, had we tease a little more that there
was a surprise coming, it might have actually been better
for the box office domestically. It may have been one
of the reasons why the film did better overseas because
by then the cat was out of the bag end quote.
And I think that makes sense, especially in a time

(01:03:34):
when like word of the mouth was still an important
part of how like a movie did. Like before you
could just like watch a clip online pretty much within
a few days of like a movie's release.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I don't know, Maybe I don't know if that's a
big enough twist for it to be like, I don't know,
maybe it is, you know, maybe I'm just like maybe
it just doesn't seem as big a deal in hindsight,
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
But yeah. He also kind of talks about that in
that same article. He also kind of talks about how
Terminator two basically raised the bar to an impossible level
for T three, saying, quote, the problem in Terminator three
is that Terminator two was such a seminal movie. It
was going to be impossible to blow people away. Because
Terminator or T two was the first time a lot
of people saw digital effects. The Liquid Metal Man no

(01:04:21):
one had ever seen before that Jurassic Park. Those are
the two movies that probably have blown people away from
seeing them in the theater. I knew that we wouldn't
be able to achieve that. I also knew there was
gonna be a lot of skepticism. Why do you even
need a third terminator? I felt that I had to
disarm people. So that's why we made a choice to
use humor, which is front loaded earlier in the movie.

(01:04:44):
Some of it's too sticky, some of it has not
aged well with time. It'll be the first to confess,
but if you went to the theater at the time,
it worked with the audience unquote. And I didn't realize
how like frontloaded T three is until like I read that,
because the jokes kind of like start eyeing down as
you get like what to like the maybe the gas
basically when he tells John that the world's going to end,

(01:05:05):
the jokes kind of died.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Yeah, yeah, talk to the hand.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yes that that That's what I had written down, is
the gas station scene, like basically like the tone changes anyway,
and he's also right about nothing compared to that two,
one thousand going forward as far as a franchise, because
like as far as like a whoa cool like awesome factor,
because like, what are they gonna like so far, they
haven't done anything atop that. Nope, and I think you
got to just make the story good enough. Maybe I

(01:05:31):
don't know, but yeah, anyway, So the interview asks if
the negative reaction to T three caused him to lose work,
and he says no, that it did really well overseas
and he has deals with or he had deals with
a bunch of studios, but because he was used to
working with independent studios and didn't have the same level
of control with major studios, like that was a problem.
He also said that he was starting a family at

(01:05:52):
the time and didn't want to miss it on their childhoods,
like that they're his kid's childhoods, which is fucking bullshit
because you can totally still be around for your kid's
child doesn't miss out on it, like, you know, sorry,
me working through my own stuff, which is stupid because
it's not like I'm still five years old, you know,
and like I'm gonna be up all night, ask my

(01:06:13):
mom when's daddy coming home? You know, like he wasn't
there to tease me to about my first joke. But
I learned, didn't I? Yeah? And I got pretty damn
good at it too. I got through my first date
without him. I learned to drive, I learned to shave,
I learned how to run away from a fight. Without him.
I had fourteen great birthdays. Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry,
I don't know where that came from. I'm sorry. I

(01:06:35):
know where it came from.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
I know exactly where it came from.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
And what are you talking about?

Speaker 9 (01:06:40):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Why don't he love you? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Yes, came from your heart. I honestly, I think about
that scene a lot when my dog's given me shit. Weirdly,
because she is in love with my wife and she's.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
Like sign with me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
It's like, how come she don't want me? Man, She's
like literally sitting over there staring at me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Joe's got a little statue on his living room table. Anyway, Seriously,
though my childhood was messed up. I don't mean to
make a joke about your dad leaving you. You can

(01:07:30):
be there, but yeah, anyway, Jonathan Mostow continues by saying
that he had projects greenlit, but then there would be
a change as far as the head of the like
a studio head, and usually the first thing the studio
a new studio head does is dump any old projects.
M yeah, so yeah, anything in development basically, and between
that and his pickiness, his career kind of suffered, you know.

(01:07:54):
But yeah. Speaking of will Smith though, which I don't
know why I wrote that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Because yeah, that's out of the blue.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
I watched what I think was his next movie after
T three, Jonathan Mostown Will Smith Jonathan Mostow is called Surrogates,
which was basically a worst version of I Robots kind
of yeah, but yeah, it starts Bruce Willison Rodin Mitchell
and it was it's good, No, it's terrible. You've seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Yeah, we talked about this before, I like off recording,
I think, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
We yeah, and you never guess who was written by
uh was it the same dudes? Yes, it is Michael Ferris,
John Braincotto. It's based on a graphic novel. But it's
like basically I think I was looking at his Mostow's
IMDb credits and I don't remember the movies after that,

(01:08:43):
but ninety percent of the movies that he's done have
been those two writers. Wow, which yeah, Michael Ferris and
which I had a note doown.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
It must be so much more charming in person than
in their block.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I mean, I think it's just like uh, loyalty basically.
But they've written like a handful of episodes for TV
shows like Rugrats. This is Michael Ferris got Rugrats and
The Simpsons, which Michael Ferriss did two or a couple
episodes les season twenty seven and season thirty. But yeah,

(01:09:16):
otherwise they him and John Brancano John Brancotto shared like
ninety nine percent of the same credits anyway. In that
same interview, most I also talked about how he talked
to James Cameron about T three, saying, quote, I do
remember reading that he had something complimentary about it soon
after it came out. We had a couple of phone
conversations subsequent to that because he'd asked me if I

(01:09:39):
wanted to direct a movie that he was producing. I
can't even remember the exactly what film that was. I
think it was two different films. Actually we must have
talked about T three, but I don't remember the specifics.
I'm embarrassed to say that because you'd think I should
remember this. But also if somebody made a sequel to
Somebody that was my baby. I don't know if I
could be as generous as he was end quote. First off,

(01:09:59):
I'm sorry, there's no way he doesn't remember what James
Cameron told him if they talked about the teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Yeah, I feel like that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Yeah, like, hey, it was better than I thought it
would be. You know, good job, good job, and just
him being nice. But secondly, like James Cameron's seems like
kind of an asshole, like and not doesn't really seem
to hold back.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Yeah, well, I mean better than I thought it would be.
Is the total backhanding compliment, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Like but still him being nice about it, like as
nice as gonna be, which exactly is as nice as
gonna because like, once you hear what James Cameron said
about the film, it's changed over the years, with him
telling BBC one in two thousand and three quote in
one word great. There was a small part of me
that hoped it wasn't good, but another part of me

(01:10:44):
hoped it had succeeded. And it did. I'm so glad
it did. Jonathan's made a great movie, Arnold's great form.
I really like what he's done with it. And it's
sure nice to you know, Jimmy Cameron being positive when
talking about somebody that positive and vague. It didn't last
long because he says in twenty fifteen, talking about when

(01:11:06):
Terminator Genesis came out, he says, quote, in my mind,
I think I think of Genesis as a third film unquote,
which ouch Jesus, yeah, wow, yeah, and I think I
mentioned this Genesis.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Yeah, but then he'll change his opinion about Genesis three
or four exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Well, I think I mentioned this movie to Genesis. And
I can't remember if it was Arnold or James Cameron
that a minuted it, but one of them said that
James Cameron only talked up Terminator Genesis because he didn't
want to shit on like Arnold Schwarzenegger's movie.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
And on top of that, when he also said when
Dark Fate was released, which I believe we probably already
covered like this quote, but he said, quote, this is
a continuation from Terminador one to Terminior two, and we're
pretending the other films were a bad dream or an
alternate timeline, which is permissible in our multiverse. So basically
it sounds like the only Terminator movie James Cameron thinks

(01:11:52):
are good are James Cameron movies? Which what ever? Sure
I get that, You're like, he doesn't seem to care
what anyone does does ip until he sees it. He
does what they do with the IPOs, Like that'd probably
be the same way. Yeah, I think I fu you
what I watch it? Be like, what the fuck is that?
Fucking suck? You realize my movie was good?

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Yeah, yeah, especially with how Picky is too. It's just anyway,
so okay. So lastly, Arnold, who in a twenty twenty
three interview with Hollywood Reporter was very kind of termin
or three, same quote, The first three movies were great.
Number four I was not in because I was governor.
Then five and six didn't close the deal as far

(01:12:33):
as far as I'm concerned. We knew that ahead of
time because they were just not well written. Which whatever,
he does, think fondly back on three. So there's also
a couple of things from that interview that I wanted
to mention before moving on. First off, apparently they were
trying to like from the interview, but like a couple
other things in general, like but this one comes from

(01:12:55):
a two thousand and four article But first off, they
were apparently trying to get Arnold on board for four
while he was in office, with a spokesperson for Intermedia
saying in two thousand and four quote, we're certainly talking
to Arnold and his people. He obviously has a day
job that he has to take into consideration, but we're
talking to him, which unquote. But there's then a quote

(01:13:17):
from one of Arnold's people saying something along the lines
of yeah, that shit ain't happening, which good, Yeah, that
would have made a mockery Like, here's no way he
would have He's smart enough to know you he would
have got a ton of shit for that. Anyway. Second
thing is from the twenty twenty three Hollywood Report article
that I mentioned before, and has nothing to do with
Tremira three, but he talks about two other movies that

(01:13:38):
we've done before that I wanted to mention. So first,
the interviewer asks him about the Twin sequel and he says, quote,
Jason Rightman fucked it up. Like what exclamation mark on
that too?

Speaker 6 (01:13:48):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Really, yeah, Jason Rightman literally stopped the projects when his
father died. This is Arnold talking his father wanted to
do it. Really badly. I wanted to do it really badly.
Danny DeVito wanted to do it really badly. We had
financing when his father passed away. Jason says, I never
liked the idea and put it on hold. Put a
hold on it. I'm developing another movie with Danny. He's
so much fun to work with and so talented, which

(01:14:12):
kind of sucks. But I'm curious if he actually like,
doesn't like the script or whatever for or he's just like,
like it's like a personal thing for Jason, rightman.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Yeah, I don't know, that's it.

Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
Ye weird.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Yeah, that's an interesting Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
But he's then asked about penning the pending Conan sequel,
and he says, quote, it's been penning for the last
ten years. Frederick Mahlmberg owns the rights. He comes to
me and says, oh, I have a deal with Netflix,
and when we ask Netflix, they don't know anything about it.
It's one of those crazy things. I hope he figures

(01:14:49):
it out. I think you do it like Unforgiven, where
you play with the aid, where you play the age.
There's a great script out there that John Millius wrote
and others have written one. The story is there there
are directors who want to do it, but he has
the rights, and until he sells the rights for one
or two movies or for the franchise, there's nothing you
can do about it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
But yeah, so that's it for the promo stuff, all right,
And after this long and winding road, we are finally
going to finish our t three episodes with irons pumped.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
When the big Man was killed, you must have wounded it.
It's blood, wasn't the leaves?

Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
If you please, we can kill it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
So we're gonna rate this movie on a scale to
one to five. Please remember that it is a scale
on Arnold movies only because if it were just a
scale for any movies, they'd all be five because they
all have Arnold in them. So yeah, let's just start
off with Aaron.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Let's say you basically was what Joe said and what
I think we both said before it was. The problem
with is this movie is there's never really much It's
like there's no real sense of urgency with it, which
is strange because the whole movie is basically a countdown
to the world ending. Also, the two movies Jonathan Mosso's
Moves Before This U five seven one and breakdown or
like pretty intense throughout most of the movie, like definitely

(01:16:05):
for a breakdown and like that feeling a desperation that
from coming from Kurt Russell's character, and breakdown is something
like as an audience memory just eventually like kind of
begin to feel and you become like it helps you
become more invested in the movie. And it's just weird
that this was missing from terminor three, especially how after
like how the movie ends, and it just should have

(01:16:27):
had like that desperate feeling, like that running out of
time feel, but it doesn't.

Speaker 7 (01:16:31):
For some reason.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
And it just feel like it fits so well into
that top ten of the week, like for when it
was released, as far as like popcorn movies. But I
don't know anyway, Like Joe's already Saturday, it was too bright,
which I didn't like. I would say what the other
ones were, but this one it hurts it, and I
guess Joe would say it probably hurts the other ones too,

(01:16:54):
But I don't know anyway. I'm gonna go with a man.
Genesis is rated way too high for me, oait I
got a three. I'm gonna go with the three because
that's what I put Genesis at and I'm not going
to rate it above that one, so yeah, I'm going three.
Got all right, Chris, what about you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
This movie is just too generic. I mean, it's still
at its core, I guess a Terminator movie, it gives
Arnold a chance to show off, Like there's some fight scenes,
he gets to shoot a little, he gets to give
some quips and stuff like that, but it just overall
feels like a really commercialized PG thirteen version of Terminator,

(01:17:37):
which is weird because are Yeah, it just it just
feels so yeah, I don't know, like I said, overly
generic and kind of yeah, you know, I can't put
it down way way down at the bottom of the
list because it does still have the basic action stuff
the most Arnold movies have. But I'm gonna give this movie,
I think, just a two point five. It's it's very

(01:18:01):
forgettable and not fun for.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Most of it. Joe, how about you?

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Yeah, I mean, you guys basically said it all. You've
encompassed my thoughts. I feel like, like the desperation of
the first one is they're just trying to get away
from the Terminator, and then the second one is like
John wants to bow up Cyberde and Linda.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
I'm sorry, Linda.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
Sarah just wants to like run and she's has to
come to grips with trusting a terminator, you know, after
what happened with the last one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
And then this one.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
It's just like, oh yeah, hey, you's these same beats again,
like the Terminator will listen to clear Danes and then
they gotta go sayr Dad, And I don't know, like
I said, it's right and everything just like no steaks though,
it's like yeah, right exactly, Like I don't feel I mean, John's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Not gonna die, like you don't feel like yeah, you
know that?

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Yeah yeah, and then like you know who's gonna die, Like,
no one's gonna die.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
I mean Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Peterson dies feels love interest.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Yeah, like you know, the Terminator is probably gonna die
like whatever. So, as I said with Genesis and I'll
stand on this hill, like they at least tried something different,
Dark Fate was kind of back back to the same thing.
And you know, I think watching this now as supposed

(01:19:22):
to want to come out, I have a little more
respect for it mainly or that's possibly because a lot
of uh Terminator movies that came after it also all
kind of sucked, So I think it fits squarely in
between Dark Fate and Genesis and Dark Fight's two point five.
Genesis is a three point five for me, so it's.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
A three, so it fits right. So would you guys
say like that they should have just wrapped it up
with T two or like, is there I feel like
the only person that could I don't even know that,
like the only person that could do anything with the movie,
like is James Cameron, but like we kind of saw
what he was gonna do with it. I mean, I
like Dark Dark Fate, but like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Never going to completely close the door in a franchise
because you could always have a good writer and a
good director come in and surprise you and make something good.
But like it, I just I'm never going to go
back and watch anything except for Terminator two and Terminator one. Yeah,
like even Dark Fate, which I enjoyed a bit, but like,

(01:20:23):
I'm probably never gonna go back and watch it. It
feels relatively forgettable. Yeah, exactly. If it's on, I'll probably
watch parts of it and other parts of it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Annoyment commercial starts exactly. The Simpsons also.

Speaker 12 (01:20:37):
On, and you're like, well, I guess I'm watching this
now exactly, so, like I don't know, I just I
don't care, Like I'm I'm not going to be excited
for another Terminator until they make one that is good again.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
That's just not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Like they have to prove that they could make a
good one again before I'll give a shit.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Yes, it's a lot like the Simpsons, like one and
two or like the nineties Simpsons, and then all the
ones after that are all the Simpsons after that, and like,
you know, even if it's like, oh, yeah, I know
they're actually pretty good now, it's like yeah until.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
They sure highs and lows, but it's never gonna take
you back to that original.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Yeah, And I don't know, like what more you can
do with this franchise decides rehashing the same Time travel
Savor Humanity Machines thing, you know. Yeah, all right, that's
gonna put t three about number eleven on the list,
was gonna be tied with Dark Fate at a two
point eighty three through the right below Genesis there's a

(01:21:36):
two point nine and above jingle all the way and
Rod deal kind of middle of the list in case
you're new here. Predator, Running Man, Twins and Commando are
solid top four thus far, and at the bottom we
have a pretty solid Aftermath, which who gave it at

(01:21:58):
one point five Jesus Christ case the Villain Actually fucking
Chris gave Sabotage two point five.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Okay, Yeah, that's probably the only one I really want
to change.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Because I hate that movie.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
Yeah, So we have Maggie, Sabotage, the Villain, and Aftermath
at at one point three or one point five or
one point three respectively at the bottom. So a bunch
of the movies in the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
I'm not gonna go over them.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
You just got to go listen back to the podcast
and figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
But I also really like how he left. Instead of
doing the top five, he did the top four because
the sixth day doesn't make any sense or.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Just I just did he did everything about four, everything.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
About Oh yeah, I say they have a commanding commanding
d it's them and everybody else.

Speaker 7 (01:22:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
I start it six day, but I do too. Anyway,
I think that does it. We've officially finished T three.

Speaker 7 (01:22:52):
Sorry that took so long, but yeah, that's all right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Yeah, and stay tuned next We're gonna have a great
one coming for you. It is middle school off, sir.

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Man, that's what it's called, right, definitely, I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
It's something about him. He's a law enforcement e guy
and he teaches people stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Yeah yeah, Paul Blart mall Cup.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
Yeah that's it.

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