87 | Finding the Root (with Bethany Troklus) - See You On The Other Side

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode
of See you on the Other Side.
Today we have a very specialguest.
We have Bethany, who is aboard-certified naturopath
doctor, and she is ournaturopath doctor.
Welcome, bethany.
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm new to Bethany.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, you are new, I'm newer, yeah you're newer, so
I guess I want to get rightinto it.
What is a naturopath doctor?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
So I focus on holistic health, which that name
is really thrown around a lot,but I want to address the entire
person, so body, mind, spirit,not just the physical, but also
the emotional as well.
Um, you know, really it's rootcause.
You know, I named my businessfinding the root because that's

(00:56):
really my goal is, I want tofind what is causing the
imbalance.
Um, and it's truly, really funfor me, it's really my biggest
pastime, because I just love todig deeper and I love finding
puzzle pieces that no one elsecan find.
So it's just like a challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah truly, can I ask you how you got into this field
?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, I mean, it was always a passion of mine.
I remember graduating highschool and I told the guidance
counselor you know, everyone hasto visit the counselor and kind
of see what your next step isgoing to be.
Yeah, and you know, at 18, nota lot of people know, for some
reason I kept telling her Iwanted to do alternative
medicine.
I don't know where I even cameup with this, because you know,

(01:41):
I'm going to age myself.
This was a long time ago.
This was like right before theinternet kind of started taking
off, and even she was just kindof like well, I don't really
know how to go about doing that.
You know, we thought aboutmaybe trying massage therapy,
but I just felt like that wasn'tquite it.
After a while of digging, Ikind of like felt the push to

(02:04):
just get a job, you know, and soI decided well, you know
business administration, youknow something like that.
And it ended up being aparalegal for about 16 years.
Wow.
It was.
You know, I was basically kindof miserable doing that because
it just wasn't me.
You know, it's just, I'm not apaper pusher, I'm just.

(02:26):
And the whole time that I was aparalegal, I was also doing a
blog and it was all about myhealth advice, and you know, I
just felt this um urge to helppeople, but I just didn't know
how to do it.
And so, you know, after mythird child was born, I thought
well, you know, it's now ornever.
You know, I need to.
Like.
I found a school that I reallywanted to attend and and I
thought let's just go for it.
So here we are.

(02:47):
And literally it's been a dreamcome true.
So I mean, never neglect thatlittle voice in your head.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I love that.
I think a lot of times peopledo push that voice away because
they kind of do what you did,where they're like well, I need
to start making money, this iseasy, this can be an easy career
for the next however many years, right.
But that little voice inside,sometimes that voice goes away
and that's what makes me reallysad for people.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Can I ask you, when you were a paralegal and you
were doing things like you wereworking a job you didn't want to
, how did that show up like inyour body?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Oh gosh, it was soul sucking, honestly.
Yeah, I mean it really was,because you're just, you're
doing the same thing day afterday and you're just like.
This is just not it.
I mean, I already knew that, Ijust didn't know, um, what the
next step was, and all thepeople close to me didn't really
either, you know.
So, cause it's not not a lot ofpeople do this, so it was just,

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you know, I, I followed a lotof people, you know, especially
like when the internet did starttaking off.
I started really, you know,following a lot of people that
thought the way that I did, youknow, and started looking at
their journey, which was veryinspiring to me, and I knew, you
know, eventually that's what Iwant to do.
So, you know, it was kind oflike it was going to happen

(04:07):
eventually.
It was just a matter of time.
I wish it would have happenedsooner, but I love that you were
in it before.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
It was like a super trendy thing to do, cause I feel
like when that starts happeningand it starts saturating social
media, you can't determinewho's real and who's not, and
whose heart is in it and who'sjust doing it for the clicks,
and it's really hard to lookthrough the stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Absolutely, and I feel like intuition plays a huge
role because you do, you almosthave to know what to listen to,
what not to listen to, becausethere's a lot it's just in a lot
of conflicting information too.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yes, and it can be very overwhelming.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely yeah.
But that's what I love to dofor my clients is to just really
demystify everything and makeit easy.
You know, set out exactly whatwe need to do.
You know, don't crowd it withtoo much, because that's
overwhelming and then honestly,it kind of turns people off too,
so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
That is definitely what it feels like.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So before I saw you, um, I started going or seeing a
functional practitioner and itwas something that was done Leah
and I did together, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, we do a lot of things together.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
She's my emotion, emotional support.
Everyone needs one, so, butanyways.
So we did this online, um, andwe did a uh Dutch test and a GI
map and mine was awful.
So I had SIBO, which is smallintestinal bacteria overgrowth.

(05:56):
I had dysbiosis, um, which islike imbalance of bacteria in
your gut, um, high cortisol,high estrogen, low melatonin.
She thought I had an autoimmunedisease, and so to hear all of
that is a lot right.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Especially when you were in the fitness industry.
Oh right, right, so long, soyou feel like I should be good
yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Well, and that's where I really struggled,
because I was like I feel likeand you've seen me like I eat.
She's like can vouch for me.
I eat very well, even whenwe're on vacation.
Even on vacation, even like I'vealways worked out but I've done
bodybuilding shows struggledwith in the past, with eating
disorders.
But so we did this six monthprogram and I like cut out

(06:47):
gluten, I cut out dairy and Idid like feel better.
But after that six months I hadno idea where I was at.
If I was better, like nothing,right.
So that was the starting point.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Um that kind of rocked our worlds a little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
It definitely did, and I think it was a good step
into the right direction.
So, anyways, I was like, well,I don't know, like, am I better,
am I not better?
And so somebody recommendedthat I go to you.
And what I like about you isthat the first time I saw you,
you know we did foot detoxbiofeedback saliva test.

(07:24):
Foot detox biofeedback salivatest Is it urine, urine?
Um, and I felt like you gave melike a few tangible things.
And then the next time I sawyou, like eight to 10 weeks
later, I saw improvement andthat was like, oh, like.
I felt like I could breathe, andso what I, what I do like about

(07:46):
you is is that like?
I feel like I get to seeprogress?
Yes, instead of just do this,because a lot of people don't
know what to do or where tostart Exactly, and then they do
something and then it's like, ok, well, am I?
Am I better?
And I feel like I've done a lotof damage to my body
unknowingly.
That um is going to take time.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah Well, and I feel like a lotof people, um, when they go at
it on their own, which is notalways a bad thing, but you
don't, you don't know whatyou're needing, you know.
So a lot of people like, grab itmagnesium and just start taking
that every day forever, and,honestly, that can cause a lot
of stress in the body if you'renot really deficient which not

(08:28):
everybody is and if you take toomuch magnesium, it's going to
push your potassium too low andthen you've got heart
palpitations and anxiety, andyou know.
So I love the testing that I do.
Number one because you getimmediate results, which is nice
, you know.
You don't need to come back andget your results or I don't
need to call you or anything,but it gives us a great idea of

(08:50):
your body chemistry right now,which is nice, you know, because
you can see nutrientdeficiencies, organ stress, as
they're happening.
Instead of.
You know, I love a blood test,just like anybody else, but by
the time something is in yourblood, they call it a disease
blood test, just like anybodyelse, but by the time something
is in your blood.
They call it a disease.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
So I want to add to that.
So, um, before I went to thefunctional practitioner I had, I
told you this I struggled withUTIs and I had like a UTI for
about a year where it was like Iwould be on antibiotic and then
a few days later I would get aUTI again and it was just like I
was miserable and I wasstarting to get these rashes all

(09:27):
over my body, and so the doctorjust sent me to go get blood
tests, and when I went to thelab, they were like I've never
seen anyone get this much bloodwork done ever.
And then it was like we stilldon't know why you have UTIs
Congratulations, and I'm likeit's disheartening, right, and

(09:53):
so that's why see the urinetests, since it's ever changing.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
you can really see almost more sometimes than on a
blood test, because you know, ofcourse you go to these doctors
sometimes and you'll get all ofthese tests.
You'll come back and they'll belike, well, everything looks,
everything's in range, butyou're like I don't feel good,
right so, and you know your bodybest, so obviously, if there's
an imbalance, you're feeling it,right so you said that to me in
my first appointment with youis, and I was just like oh, I

(10:19):
came home, told my husband andhe's like I just had blood work
done.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm like, did you not hear what I just said?
Like, if it shows up in yourblood, it's too late.
Well, and you're not.
It's not the first time I'veheard that, but like just
hearing it again was just like,okay, there's something to this
for sure.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, and it's like, over time, as a society, all of
these blood tests and these likenormal ranges, you're being
compared to the sickest of thesick and so that's not an
optimal range.
They're just, they're puttingyou in the normal range, but
normal is not optimal, and soand yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And then, by the time you're showing these signs,
they're like well, now we needto treat it Right.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And what's normal is not necessarily healthy or good
or what we should be strivingfor, because sometimes our norm
in our society is like prettyunhealthy it is.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, it is, and I feel like as a society we keep
getting sicker and sicker.
You often wonder, I mean, is itbecause we're ignoring a lot of
these very what they considerminor symptoms, you know, before
they get to be really big, andthat's.
You know.
I like to get a handle on that.
I love to be on the preventionend.
You know, what can we do now?

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I saw that our generation is like one of the
first generations, who isexpected to not live as long as
our, like parents.
So sad, can you like?
Why do you think that is?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Um, you know, I feel like in a lot of ways we're more
disconnected from our bodies.
I don't know, it's like we'vejust we've lost that true innate
connection where we're seeing,like if we see a change, you
wake up in the morning.
You kind of need to check inwith yourself like, well, how do
I feel today?

(12:02):
Do I feel rested?
Did I get enough sleep?
Do I have good energy?
Even something as simple asthat is just optimizing your
sleep and starting your day offon the right foot can have a
huge difference in your health.
But it is, it's very sad.

(12:23):
You see it all the time.
I mean, just look on the TV.
All of the prescription youknow ads on TV.
I mean it's just kind of likewhat is going on here?
Why?
Why are we so needing all ofthese prescriptions?
This is something, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
And it's always the first line of defense.
And so I stopped going to adoptmy primary care doctor like 10
years ago, because everything Iwent to her for she would write
me a prescription and like, oh,you're having trouble sleeping,
here's some ambien.
And like just one after theother, and I I rarely took
anything because I was like Idon't, I just feel like there's

(13:02):
a better way.
I didn't know what that betterway was, I just went unmedicated
and just like felt dealt withit.
But yeah, what you're saying.
It's like if you're havingtrouble sleeping, why aren't
they asking you like well,what's going on in your life?
Like, what are you doing beforebed?
What do you?
How many cups of coffee are youdrinking a day?
Nobody's asking those kinds ofquestions.

(13:23):
Are you drinking?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
a day.
Nobody's asking those kinds ofquestions.
Well, and they only I mean mostof medical doctors don't have a
lot of time with each of theirpatients.
Not necessarily their fault.
I think a lot of them areoverworked, but you know, I mean
spending five to 10 minuteswith a patient.
You're not.
You're not going to learn thosethings.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
That and I feel like a lot of medical doctors, they
don't have enough like they knowwhat they know, but sometimes
things outside of that andthings that they haven't been
taught they don't, so they'renot often going to talk to you
about, like your nutrition, yourexercise, your stress, your

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sleep, your trauma.
And so even like me sharingwith people um, going back to
the norm me sharing with peoplethat like I'm going to a
naturopath doctor and like Imeditate and do breath work,
like my stepdaughters think I'mcrazy and it's like am I or is
like should?

(14:19):
Should maybe this be our norm?
Cause it's like I'm connect, I'mtrying to like connect with
myself.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
And the disconnect I think sometimes comes from like
all the I hate to say it, but wesay it in podcasts all the time
.
So it's fine, but like themedications that we're on, like
you don't know what your homebase is, because you're
medicating to sleep.
You don't know how well youcould sleep on your own.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
So I often say you don't know how well you could
sleep on your own.
So I often say people don'tknow how well they can feel,
people don't know how good itcan be.
You know they think they feelokay.
But you know, when you replacenutrient deficiencies and really
like address these things andreplenish them and just support
the body to heal naturally, it'sa lot of magic can happen.
It's just magic to me.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And you've witnessed it.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh yeah, I've experienced it myself, you know.
I mean, they say, physician,heal thyself.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I, you know, I'm my first guinea pig I like to say,
and that's something I don'tthink people know, Like the the
doctors who are prescribing meds, they're not taking those meds.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Right, right, like yeah Right.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
That used to be a common practice, like a hundred
years ago, where they would testthe medicine before they gave
it to people, and now they don'tdo that.
So it's like how can youprescribe something when you
don't even know what it's goingto do to that person, right?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
And the pharmaceutical commercial that
you see that what it's going todo to that person Right and the
pharmaceutical commercial thatyou see that's not.
It may be the norm here, butlike that's not the norm
everywhere.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Like it is not common to see pharmaceutical
commercials no no, well, it usedto be, I feel like, not legal
to show those things now.
I mean I guess, yeah, no,you're right, I guess anything
goes.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
no, all the commercials I see when I'm
watching like a hulu show or apeacock show is like alcohol and
medication yes that's all it isusually usually if it's a
commercial, I'm like I shouldn'tbuy that.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
I don't know, yeah right, because it's like a large
trying to trick me largecompany, yeah, corporation no, I
shouldn't this is a subliminalmessage yes, yes, I just hit
mute.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm like all right, yeah, I'll just wait till it's
over.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, so can you go in like.
So my first appointment withyou was probably a month or so
ago six weeks, oh, not that longago.
No, it really wasn't that longago, but it's funny because you
started going to her.
My friend, sarah was, has beengoing to you.
I have another friend who hasbeen going to you, another and

(16:48):
I'm just like oh hey universeOkay.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
This is a good friend circle to be in.
I know it's a really goodcircle.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
And then now, like I've I've talked with other
people who also see you and I'mlike, oh my God, I had no idea
you saw her too.
Like you're like everybody'sbestie right now.
Um, but during that, what wasit?
An hour, hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Usually the first appointment's about an hour and
a half two hours.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay, it was a very long appointment.
Um can you explain what thefoot detox does?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I want to get into that.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
What the biofeedback is, the saliva test, because the
thing that not only blew mymind but, like another friend
who just recently saw you camein and was just like the fact
that, like everything lined up,like what she got from the detox
, the, what she read from thefoot, what you read from the

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foot detox, and then, like youdo the saliva test and you're
like, oh, this is where you'redeficient and this is where it's
showing up, and then you do thebiofeedback and it all checks.
Yes, that's like magic, yeah,so what is that process?

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yes, you know, and going along, what you're saying,
I love to triangulate, and whatthat really means to me is see
similar themes.
Okay, so you know, yes, you do,like the foot detox, you do the
urine test and like you do thebiofeedback, and you start to
see the same things come upmultiple times.
Then I know, okay, well, thisis definitely something that we

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should address first.
You know, a lot of times, onceyou address those forefront
things, then that starts movingout of the way and new things
start coming to the surface.
So it really is like astair-step thing of healing, you
know, because the body says,okay, this is what we want to do
first, this is second, this isthird.
You know, and you just, youstart feeling progressively

(18:39):
better, which is great.
So the foot detox is reallyinteresting because it works
ionically, in that theionization provides positive
ions into the water.
When you put your feet in itwill eventually mix with your
negative ions to create a magnetto pull things out, so very

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stimulating to the lymphaticsystem, which is really
important, because our lymphaticsystem does not have a pump, so
it does not move like our blooddoes.
We have to move it.
As you age it really doesbecome more stagnant and so that
causes a lot of differenttoxins to kind of settle in
different organs of the body,basically Different areas,

(19:23):
joints, but also, like you know,I'm looking at the liver, the
kidneys, the gallbladder, um, soit really, you know, it's a 30
minute session and it is reallyinteresting and cool to kind of,
you know, see what comes out.
I like to say, anytime I feellike I'm starting to get
something, I'm like, okay, let'sdo a foot detox, because it's
just wonderful to really getthat movement going, move it out

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faster.
It's just wonderful to reallyget that movement going, move it
out faster, get the immunesystem working better.
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
It's wild to watch.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Put your feet in and the water is clear 30 minutes
later you're like okay, so mywater is black and there's
chunks in there.
What are?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
these chunks.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
That's a good detox, though that is a good detox, but
like.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I'll just use myself as an example.
Sure, A lot of what shows up inmy foot detox is liver.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yes, which is very common.
I will say I see that a lot.
So what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I see that a lot, and the main reason I mean the
liver is our biggest detox organ.
So when you know when thingsare trying to filter through
your body, the liver is going toshow up the most.
Now I see you know varyingdegrees of liver detox.
You know some people,especially if they've done a few
detoxes it will be lighter.
you know it won't be as heavy,but it's, you know, for your
first detox.
It's very normal to have a veryheavy liver detox because you

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know, you think about ourenvironment, you know your age,
you know, as we accumulatetoxins, you're going to have
more to come out.
So, um, but yeah, primarilyliver is what I see.
Um, gallbladder is prettycommon too.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Um, what does gallbladder?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
mean so any kind of like sluggishness in the
gallbladder.
So you know um sluggish bowelflow where things can get kind
of sticky and not move as well.
That is like a detox problem.
So you know we like to focus onlike extra enzymes um just
focus more on digestion.
Really yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I know it's very interesting.
Something I learned recently isthat, like 95% of your body's
serotonin is produced in the gut, in the gut yes, and another
thing that I learned on top ofthat is SSRIs kill gut bacteria.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yes, which is interesting.
Well, and SSRIs it'sinteresting, yes, but I mean I
could go on forever on those.
Same interesting, yes, but Imean I could go on forever on
those.
But they, they preventserotonin metabolism, which is
really important because youdon't want too high or too low
serotonin.
Either one of them is not good,so it needs to be in balance
and that does prevent thatbalance.

(21:57):
So, yeah, so it's a little bitcounterintuitive for what people
are using it for.
But right.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
And the fact that, like it's been proven that
depression and anxiety is not aserotonin, yes, depletion Right.
It's not a.
It's not a matter of yourbody's not producing enough of
it.
It has nothing to do withserotonin.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Right, I'm looking at more like GABA and cortisol and
which nobody's talking aboutyeah and and um, which nobody's
talking about.
Yeah, and dopamine is actuallyharder to get than serotonin.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Most of us have too much serotonin, believe it or
not, which?

Speaker 3 (22:29):
causes anxiety.
Yeah, wow.
So because if you don't haveenough dopamine, then you're not
um.
Your serotonin is going to beway too high and you don't want
that it causes it's kind of likeexcess estrogen.
It causes just irritation andstress in the body.
Dopamine is very calming.

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Another reason why I lovecastor oil packs because that
increases dopamine productionwhich is really good for
serotonin.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Let's go into castor oil packs.
Let's do it Because I love acastor oil pack Me too.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Me too.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I wish I would have brought one today.
That would have been good.
All of us wearing our matchingcastor oil packs.
Tony calls it my lingerie.
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Your potato of a lingerie.
You're welcome, Tony.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I'll get in bed and I have my bonnet.
I have my castor oil pack.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I mean we're just looking hot man.
I mean I know I have.
We're just looking hot man.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I mean I know I have like my eye patches and I dry
brush in bed.
I have a body one, I have aface one.
I dry brush before the sauna.
Are you my best client?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Maybe she is a great student, because, I'm going to
be honest, I bought a dry brushand haven't used it yet, so
we're going to get you on this.
I've been doing the castor oilpack, though.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
That's good I love a bedtime routine.
Oh, I do too.
I love a bedtime routine well,sleep is king.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
I mean you want anything to have the best sleep
ever.
And once you've had the bestsleep ever, then you're like,
okay, we're gonna do are you aprojector in human design?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
We'll have to look that up.
Okay, we'll have to look thatup later, maybe.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
You guys love some sleep.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
No.
I do yes.
And I feel like I never getenough of it.
You can't even get enough.
But so castor oil pack mylingerie.
Yes, yes.
Can you talk about what that isand what?
It does, absolutely it'ssomething that I wear every
night to bed.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
So the castor oil pack is interesting because it's
really an old folk remedythat's become new again.
It's truly it's old school.
You know, they used to say likethey would take a piece of
organic cotton flannel, theywould soak it in castor oil,
they'd place it over where theirliver is and then they would
put like a hot water bottle ontop of that.
As you can imagine, very messy,okay, but very, very healing.
There was a reason why they didall of this.

(24:45):
Um, the design that I carry inmy office is virtually mess free
, which is why I like it.
But, um, the outside of it.
Outside of it is a soft vinylwhich helps to insulate your
body heat, so you don't need anoutside heat source.
Um also keeps it mess free,keeps all the oil in um you know
, and I don't use a whole bunchof oil, I would say, sometimes I

(25:06):
even pour it actually on myskin, just a little bit like a
tablespoon, you know that's whatI've been doing.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Like pouring it on, like on my stomach, and then I
rub it in and like massage mystomach and then.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
I put my pack on and you know it's I mean either way.
Sometimes people will put it onthe pack.
It's fine too, you know.
I mean really it doesn't takemuch is what I'm trying to say.
You know, and once a castor oilis the only oil that can
penetrate to the organs, whichis why I really love it.
Um, really great to dissolveand break up like cysts,
fibroids.
Um, wonderful to stimulate thedigestive system.

(25:39):
So I like to say if you'redealing with any kind of
constipation, try a castor oilpack first, because that really
it's wonderful.
Once you wake up in the morningyou gotta go.
It's good to get you on thatrhythm.
But you know it's mainly calleda liver pack because it's
wonderful to stimulate the liverto excrete excess estrogen and
toxins.
So it's just a wonderfulhealing practice for the liver.

(26:02):
You know, and part of the urinetest I do is there's a liver
marker on there.
If it's ever elevated, I alwaysrecommend the castor oil packs.
You know, sleeping in thoseabout five nights a week can be
wonderful for that, because itgently decongest the liver to
excrete that excess estrogen.
They come back, do another testand their liver markers come

(26:22):
way down.
So it's the proof is in thepudding.
Is dopamine produced in yourliver.
So dopamine is produced in thegut, but um, it's more.
Um.
Your body has the ability toproduce its own dopamine and
because castor oil is sorelaxing, that's what helps to
produce it.
And also, I love you know.

(26:44):
I used castor oil initially toheal constipation and regulate
digestion.
I kept using it because it's sowonderful to deepen sleep.
I mean it extends that REMcycle.
Oh, I didn't know that yes itextends the REM cycle
considerably, and so when you'rein that deeper um deep wave
sleep, that's when healing takesplace.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
So I did know that when I got my aura ring which,
by the way, I think we all havethem on today, when I started
learning more about Lincoln bio,the commercial for.
Oh my God, sorry, now I'm like.
I started reading into like umREM sleep and how it literally

(27:26):
helps your body like recalibrate, yes, and it helps um re
stimulate neurons in your brainand it's like when you're not
getting to that REM sleep, likeit, you can become deficient in
so many other areas becauseyou're not getting that nightly
reset Right.
I thought that was interesting,so now it's almost like a game.

(27:47):
It's so funny because so manypeople track their like steps
and everything and I know thatit tracks that as well, but like
when I got this.
I'm like oh, I'm going to get somuch REM tonight, crush my
sleep so hard.
So, while everybody else islike counting steps and calories
and I'm all about the sleep.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Right, right, yeah, would you?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
say, sleep is like your biggest, like someone you
don't know Cause it's likeeveryone has different needs and
like what you said, would yousay that would be your biggest
recommendation that everyone getmore sleep.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Oh yeah, I mean, if you don't sleep, recommendation
that everyone get more sleep.
Oh yeah, I mean, if you don'tsleep, you don't heal.
If you don't sleep you don'tlose weight.
Um, those two things are someof the biggest concerns that I
hear from people.
And so, yeah, you need to beoptimizing your sleep.
That's huge.
You know any kind of likeadrenal fatigue.
That's the only way theadrenals heal is through optimal
sleep.

(28:40):
Um, I do.
I also want to mention castoroil.
Packs are wonderful.
If you feel like you're gettingsick, put on a pack.
It increases your T cells, yourlymphocyte production, to
really speed through an illnessmuch faster.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
So yeah, I've seen on TikTok Now I've been doing the
castor oil pack and I've been.
We started doing that last yearwith um, the other functional
nutritionist, um, I wasn'tconsistent with it, and then
with you I've been a little bitmore consistent with it.
I don't know why, but then onTik TOK I was seeing like people
literally use castor oil andlike rub it in their belly

(29:15):
button.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Is that not?
Yeah, what is that?
I've seen that too.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
What's wild is everyone's coming in saying this
belly button thing and I'm likeI don't know who navel, how
this started, something I forgot.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, I do I like it.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
I feel like, um, that's great,and also like, if you want to do
that and then put your pack on,I just I like the packs because
I feel like it covers a largerarea yeah, and so you know.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
so maybe like the in the belly button is like a
little bit, you're getting amicrodose.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
That's a castor oil.
I think it would be great foryour gut, but I'm not sure if
that would have that liverbenefit.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Because your liver is kind of like over here.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
So Okay, not bad, not a bad idea, so you could do
both.
Yeah, not a bad idea, so youcould do both.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, and it wouldn't be a bad thing, just take a
bath in castor oil, that's right.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I don't mean to like this conversation is wonderful
and I'm like backtracking.
But you said that like anxietywas often high serotonin.
Yes, I've been somebody who hasalways struggled with anxiety
and I've been struggling withanxiety more, and I already know
why that is it's because I'mnot resting enough and doing too

(30:32):
many things.
But what are likerecommendations for somebody who
has high serotonin like thatand is struggling with anxiety?

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Definitely.
I think my first go-to would beblood sugar.
I would really pay attention toblood sugar stability because
that makes a huge difference.
Animal protein is very high indopamine.
So you think about you know,are you getting enough protein?
Because that's going to help tooppose that excess serotonin.

(30:57):
Yeah, calm everything down.
Blood sugar is huge.
If your blood sugar is erraticand it's, you know, if you eat
and you get spiked and then youcome crashing down, um, get a
lot of fatigue, you know stufflike that, that's a blood sugar
issue.
So you know we would look atthat.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
And I learned this from you.
But, um, a lot of times, like,when I eat, I'll eat like my
protein and my vegetables firstand I also learned this from the
glucose, goddess Um, and thenI'll eat like my carb at the, at
the very end.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
But you told, told me about, like, if I am craving
like a dessert, to get like aketo, yeah, If you yes, I mean
if you have a lot of blood sugardysregulation, then I do, I
recommend avoiding sugar.
So because until we can get youmore balanced, any sugar you

(31:48):
eat, regardless if it's after ameal which I mean I would I
would recommend thatwholeheartedly.
If you, if you do eat something, make sure it's after protein
so that way it can help tobuffer that spike.
But you know, often if yourblood sugars have been erratic
for a long time, you really needto avoid sugar.
But at the same time.
You know, I have a sweet toothtoo, so I totally get it.
You know, and so I do.

(32:09):
You know more of these like Idon't like a diet name, but you
know a more keto kind of sweetthat has like a healthy sugar
substitute, um erythritol orallulose or something like that.
Um, it can be helpful becauseit can satisfy that craving so
you feel like you're not missingout, but it's not spiking your
blood sugar.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
How do you like, how do you, how can you keep track
of that?
How can you monitor that?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Um, your blood sugar spikes.
I go by just how you feel.
Okay, I mean, honestly it goes.
You know you really need to payattention to how you feel.
Okay, I mean, honestly it goes.
You know you really need to payattention to how you feel.
Okay, but just to be on thesafe side, really get your
protein in.
I can't.
I mean, I feel like a brokenrecord a lot of times, but you
know, especially like frontloading your day with a good
amount of protein can make ahuge difference and just keeping

(32:56):
your blood sugar more stableand that's what we want.
You know we don't want.
You have to think like this.
Erraticness is not good foryour body.
It's very stressful, especiallyon the liver.
So you know, and when?
If you wanted to lose weight,if you wanted to get better
sleep you know, the only way todo that is to lower stress in
the body.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
So yeah, what are your thoughts on?
Um too much cardio?
Yes, Because I feel like we'vetalked on that a lot and I think
people think if I just do morecardio, I'll lose weight, and
where you and I are now, we'relike oh, but you're raising your
cortisol levels and it's notgood for your heart and it's not

(33:36):
what.
I thought it was my entire life.
I've hated cardio and thought Ihad to do it Right.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Right, isn't that terrible?
Yeah, I mean.
Honestly, you know, I feel likewhat the eighties and nineties
taught us is to exercise yourbutt off and don't eat anything.
And, honestly, the nothingcould be more farther from the
truth.
I mean because what's going onis um the more hardcore,
especially cardio that you'redoing.

(34:03):
It's very stressful for youradrenal glands and when your
adrenals are stressed, that putsyou into survival mode and your
body is not letting go of athing.
I mean we're talking slowerdigestion, just sleep off.
Oh yeah, you're just you.
If you can't relax, then you'renot, you're not healing, you're

(34:24):
not going to lose weight.
And that really goes witheating too.
I feel like the majority of thepeople I see are just aren't
eating enough.
You know, and I usually, andthat's why I say really you got
to get that protein in,especially in the morning,
because if you don't eat by, Ilike to say the happy time is 10
o'clock.
If you don't eat by 10 o'clock,your body is running on nothing
but stress hormone.

(34:46):
Leah, sorry, and so Damn I just,is that you it's me.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I have a hard time waking up and eating breakfast
you have to almost make yourself.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
I mean, I was there too.
You have to almost makeyourself, because you get in
this pattern and you thinkyou're doing great because
you're like oh good.
I'm intermittent fasting.
You know what?
I mean.
Right, but if you don't do that, if you don't eat by a certain
time, your body starts reallyproducing a lot of cortisol.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
This is where Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, I was just going to say is it different
with men and women, with that?
Because I feel like, yeah,jason fasts a lot and I feel
like men he swears it works Doshit like that and they cold
plunge and they love, and I'mjust like it's possible that it
could be different, but I will.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
I mean I'm not going to say all the time men can do
that, because I do, I've seen alot of men that shouldn't do
that either.
So I think it just depends onwhere they're at.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I think it's interesting between men and
women because I feel like thethings that they do are to be
more productive.
Where you and.
I are.
We're trying to do things to beless productive, like they're
like fuck yeah, cold plunge, I'mgoing to spike my adrenaline,
my adrenaline I'm gonna get somuch work done and and you know

(36:06):
it's, everything that we'redoing is to try to slow down and
just calm down.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, and no warm bubble bath, yeah yeah, well,
and you think about um hormones,okay, so everybody's.
That's a huge button issue fora lot of people too.
When your cortisol is too highor just dysregulated too high or
too low, you're not going to beproducing the hormones, okay,
and so the progesterone is goingto go down.

(36:30):
You're going to have more ofthat estrogen dominance.
It's truly a cascading snowballeffect, and so we've got to
keep that blood sugar andmetabolism working good.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
So for people who don't know much about like the
intake of protein because thisis new to me, like how much
protein I'm supposed to beeating you and I have had like
conversations about it, causeI'm like that's a lot of protein
.
How much protein do yourecommend?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
I would say.
I mean, I always like to say,shoot for a hundred grams.
You know, most women actuallyneed more than that.
But you know, 80 to a hundred.
You know, I mean, if you, ifyou get in the habit of eating
that morning meal, you'll getthere faster because you know,
because you want like a lowercalorie but higher protein

(37:22):
morning meal, and then I meanyou'd be shocked at your energy.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
And also, it will just supercharge and like.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Better than a caffeine.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
People think that they eat enough protein and I'm
like well, just track it andshoot for like 80 to 100.
Right, and they shoot for likethey get to like 60 or 70.
They're like oh my God, I'm sofull, I, and they shoot for,
like they get to like six years,70.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
They're like oh my God, I'm so full, I'm so full
and I'm like, yeah as yourealize protein.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
How little protein.
Two boiled eggs in the morning,that's it.
I really thought I was doingreally good.
But then also, you know, again,like what you're saying, a lot
of people just walk aroundhungry all the time and I'm like
if you got enough protein, youwould not be hungry.
Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I start my morning with eggs and turkey bacon and
it's hard to like, it's hard toeat it Like like it's.
It's very filling, yeah, sowhich is a good thing.
I know, I know, I know, yeah,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
It's interesting you were talking about like people.
Some people like do theintermittent fasting, um, which
is what my husband does, butthen I remember seeing.
You might remember his name, Idon't remember his name.
He kind of blew up on Tik TOK.
He's like a health and wellnessguy, thank you, um.
I remember one of his,immediately one of his TikToks.
He was saying like you shouldhave 30 grams of protein within

(38:43):
30 minutes of waking.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
And then 30 minutes of walking.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
And 30 minutes of movement.
Yeah, movement, movement.
Not like cardio, but just likemove around for 30 minutes and
watch how your entire daychanges.
Right, I could agree with that.
Okay.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
I mean 30 minutes is kind of a stretch for me, I know
, Because I'm like that's reallyhard when you have kids and
you're like getting them readyfor school, but that's what I
like to say.
I like to say at least about 10.
Like, that's what you know,because if you drank a little
bit of coffee, or you're gettingthe kids ready, you know what I
mean.
There's other stuff that you'regoing to be doing, but you know

(39:20):
it get off that stress hormonetrain.
You got to get off of it.
You're going to help a lot, Ithink moms deal a lot with that.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Well well.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
so that's, that's a good point to slow down, rest
more, learn to be, not to do.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Isn't that interesting for our society as a
whole, though?

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Right, Because I was going to say part of my language
.
But how the fuck do?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
you do that.
I mean, it's just, we're inthis like go, go, go, go go,
like I'm not doing enough.
You always feel like how can Ido more, how can I be more
productive?
How can I?
You know what I mean right, andthis is not conducive to health
so it always feels like anuphill battle, though, because
it is.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I saw this video where this mom was talking about
.
I think that sports ruins canruin families because we
literally yeah, we literallyhave something to do every night
.
We both work.
Then we have to go to a game orwe have to go to practice and
all of us are so stressed.

(40:34):
And my kids are kids and, likeyou used to just be able to play
sports and you could playwhatever sport you wanted, and
now it's like you have to travelball and, yeah, you have to
start when you're three and likeyou do all these things outside
of the school like leagues andwhatever, and it's just like it
kills families.

(40:54):
But it's like how do you restmore where you, your entire
family learns that in the worldthat we live in, Cool.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I think being you have to be more intentional and
I mean, I agree, it's like it'sjust not the world we live in
right now.
So you have to make it that way.
Yeah, okay, it's really youhave to go against the norm.
Rebel, you kind of do I.
I mean I like to say like,reclaim the weekends, um,
especially with kids, is reallyimportant.

(41:25):
Um, sometimes you know it'sgood for them to just be bored.
Sometimes, you know, becausethat's where creativity is born.
You know that's really whereyou connect more as a family, um
, just kind of just being theretogether.
Um, it's.
It is hard now and I almost feellike I mean, I'm even
experiencing this with my kids'school.

(41:46):
Every kid does every sport.
There is no downtime.
Really, I mean you're justgoing, going, going.
I mean, as a parent, I'mthinking, gosh, aren't these
kids tired?
I mean it's, it's a lot.
You know they really it's likeand they want to do it.
It's not like they're not happydoing it, but you know you're
really it's introducing theminto this very fast-paced

(42:06):
lifestyle, which I'm not sure isalways a good thing, right, I'm
like do.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
They want to do it because they're young and they
have energy and they're likeconditioned that that's just
like the norm.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
And then they get to an adult and they're like oh God
, I'm tired.
I struggle with that becauseElle is a little gymnast and she
practices 12 hours a week andwe have meets and I struggle
because she loves it Right.
Absolutely loves it.
We give her the opportunityevery year.
Like you don't have to do thiscompetitively, she's also super,
super competitive.
Yeah, so I'm like am I ruiningher?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
like I think it's, I mean, and it's something that
she enjoys, I think it's greatyeah I really do.
But you know it's like you.
Just you gotta find thatbalance somewhere I don't know
I'm a I'm a fan of like skippingplans every now and then oh, we
are so we so we are so fans ofthat I like that Just being like
you know what?
Let's just, we're just going totake today off.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I love canceling plans.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Oh, it's, nothing makes me happier, honestly,
Right when someone's like ohsorry, I can't make it.
Don't feel bad yeah, don.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
At least we have that understanding with each other.
Yeah, If you ever are likewanting to cancel.
Don't ever feel guilty, becauseshe'll text me immediately.
I'll be like same.
Oh my God, same.
Yeah, let's cancel at the sametime.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah, yeah, cause I just you know, downtime is.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
That's a good cancel culture right there.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Yes, there you go, it is, it is.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, so, oh, go ahead, go ahead.
Biofeedback.
Yes, talk about it, I've been.
I've been.
I've been like.
This one is a very fascinatingone to me.
People ask me about it and I'mlike I don't know.
It just just tells me thethings that I need to work on.
I don't know how it shows methings.
It shows me what's showing upin my body.

(44:01):
I don't know how it does it andwhy it does it, but it just
does.
So can you give?
A better example than what Iwould give.
I can try.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
So I have Zyto biofeedback um which goes
through galvanic skin response.
So it is a software Um.
It's a hand cradle mechanism.
So you know you lay your handon the hand cradle, you're not
going to feel anything, but thesoftware sends impulses to your
body um, scanning each bodysystem.

(44:29):
It'll tell us what is stressingthat body system and then also
it'll scan for several differentvitamins, minerals or herbs um.
That may help you bring it backinto balance that you have a
good resonance with.
So it's really, really.
It comes out with a veryimpressive report which you've
seen.
You know it's very nice to beable to take that home and just
kind of read through it.
You know, everybody loves areading.
I think it's very interesting.

(44:50):
Every time I get a scan I'mjust I love it, it's really fun.
But you know, so really, it'sbased on muscle testing, it's
based on frequency-basedmedicine, which is very
interesting to me.
I mean, I don't like protocolsbecause of that, because
everyone is so individual.
I do have, you know, certainthings that I'll go to, you know

(45:12):
, for different deficiencies ordifferent symptoms, but as a
whole, you know, doing abiofeedback scan, you can really
get a better handle on whatexactly you're needing right now
, which is really nice.
And again, you know, when welook at the urine and saliva
testing, there you go, I mean, alot of times, like the same
things start popping up and thenwe know, okay, well, definitely

(45:33):
this is something that weshould focus on.
First, you know, make somechanges, come back, do another
scan, see what shakes out.
You know it's, it's great, itreally really is.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
So your biofeedback that I did was a little bit
different than the first time Iever did biofeedback.
I didn't realize there weredifferent types.
There's a lot of different ones, yeah.
Um, but there were some thingsthat showed up on yours that
like were congruent with whatshowed up on my first one, my
first one.
We did talk about this in anepisode, but she was asking if I

(46:03):
was like recently pregnant orhad recently miscarried, or
there was like some stuffshowing up and I was like that's
interesting, cause I didmiscarry this time, but like a
decade ago.
And she was like did you workthrough that?
Have you processed that?

(46:23):
And I was like no, because wegot pregnant again right after
and I never really thought aboutit after that.
I'm like tearing up, I'm sorryit happens.
Um, and then there wassomething else that showed up
that was like this is showingyou have a lot of religious
trauma, and I was like what thefuck?
Like how did you know that?

(46:44):
So I think something similarshowed up with you not the
miscarriage thing, cause maybecause I worked through it Like
does it?
Something show up differentevery time, like if, if
something is no longer.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yes.
So I mean, and often, sometimesthe same things show up again,
you know, because we wereaddressing it but it's not quite
resolved yet.
So, yes, sometimes they'll showup again, um, but for the most
part, different things will comeup because, like I said, we're
addressing certain things.
You come back, do another scan,then we've got these other
things that kind of come to theforefront, so, um, but this does

(47:23):
.
It does also address emotions,which is really interesting.
And so, yeah, I kind of want totouch on that too, because, you
know, we cannot addressanything in the physical without
also looking at emotions,because, you know, I like to say
it's like the chicken or theegg we don't know which one came
first.
You know, often you've gotthese emotions, um, and

(47:43):
especially if they're thesetrapped emotions that have been
around hanging around for a longtime, they can cause a lot of
organ stress, um, but also, likephysical, um, illnesses can
also cause out of balanceemotions too.
So we really, you know,addressing both of them and that
is holistic, that's theholistic way.
That's, you know, that's what Ireally like to focus on.

(48:05):
This also kind of goes into theBach flower remedies, because
that is a frequency-basedmodality as well, and I love
that.
Just a little back story.
Dr Edward Bach was a physicianin the 30s and he discovered
that there was 38 differentflowers and plants that can
gently shift negative emotionsback to positive.
So truly interesting, you know.

(48:29):
Since it's all frequency, Ilike to say it's not like when
you take a medication, you know,for anxiety or depression, and
like okay, like okay, you canfeel there's been a shift.
Um, this is not like that.
This is like, over the courseof three or four days you might
notice oh, you know, that reallywould have bothered me before
and it doesn't so much now,which is really nice, you know.

(48:51):
And so you know microdosingwith flowers it's microdosing.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yes, that was really cool.
We I, you had me do aquestionnaire and it was like
asking like what is it Always,never sometimes, or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, it kind of.
So each flower representsdifferent emotions, okay, and so
, um, basically, you know thatparticular flower, let's say
like beach, for one, that's areally popular one, because
that's a good one for tolerance,like, let's say that you have a
really short fuse, you know,and so everything's kind of

(49:30):
getting on your nerves,especially what other people are
doing, not so much you, butit's like you know that's really
irritating what he's doing orwhat she's doing.
So beach is great because itkind of helps to build up that
tolerance in you where you'renot annoyed so much about other
people's business InterestingBasically or activities.

(49:52):
But you know, and that's justone of them, there's 38 of them.
So really, you know, and I builda little tincture bottle.
It's virtually tasteless andyou can add it to beverages, you
can put it under your tongue.
But I add about I like to blendno more than eight remedies at
a time, because you know I don'twant to put all 38 frequencies

(50:13):
coming at you.
It's just too much.
So, yes, I do like to do thequestionnaire, only because I
don't go just by thequestionnaire.
But you know, if I haven't metyou yet, it's nice to kind of
get a handle on, like whatyou're feeling, you know before,
like we talk and then we canblend.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Are you sad or are you angry?
Because I've got a flower foreach one of those.
That's what it feels like.
So the frequencies this is sointeresting to me, I did go down
a little box rabbit hole afterI left your office that day
Cause I was like I have neverheard of this.
This is so cool, but I.
Usually we talk aboutpsychedelics and this is like an

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episode where it hasn't come up.
But I have also read um, theyare doing these frequencies like
vitamin C.
They can take the frequency ofvitamin C and you can listen to
it and your body reacts to it inthe same way as it would if you

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were taking vitamin C as asupplement, because it is like
healing your body by frequency.
And so in some of these studies, they are doing studies right
now to study the frequency ofpsychedelics, so you can get the
same benefits of thesepsychedelics without the
ingesting without the trip.

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part of it Interesting.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
That's interesting, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, so I am a big believer in frequencies and I
also, at night, listen to um achakra balancing frequency
playlist.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Oh, I love that yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
That's great.
I've sent it to you before Ithink, um, yeah, we probably
have.
Yes, so yeah, I'm a bigbeliever in frequencies.
And you said you were about togo to a training.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yes, so I'm getting ready to attend a contact reflex
analysis seminar.
I hope to be certified afterthat.
You know, we'll kind of see howthe seminar goes, but it's very
interesting it is.
It assesses different reflexpoints in the body.
It goes, it's, you know, a lotof like energy frequency type

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medicine.
But really, I mean frequencymedicine is the way of the
future.
So you know, I definitely Iwant to get in on that.
Um, I love it already, but Ijust have not learned the actual
technique yet.
So I'm excited to learn it anduse it with my clients.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
And so how would you I do you know this already, but,
like, if you are likeprescribing a frequency to
someone, how does that work?

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Um well, I don't know that.
It's like prescribing afrequency it's more of um,
getting a lot more detailedabout what's going on in the
body.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
So, you know fine tuning yes.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Yes, it's just getting a lot more detailed,
which you know.
The biofeedback software isvery detailed.
I would say this is even moreso.
So you know, and this, um, Imay not.
I may even be able to get ridof the biofeedback and just do
this.
That's kind of a goal for me.
So we'll see, wow, We'll see.
But yeah.

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I'm very I respect a lot of thedoctors who already practice
this Um.
Unfortunately there's not a lotin Kentucky, so again that kind
of pushed me to.
I'm like you know not a lot ofus do this, so this would be a
really unique um modality for myclients and for me and my
family.
So we're down.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Oh, you can come and be my test taker.
Oh, we love that, I'll have youcome in one day and practice on
you.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Give me the word, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Give me the word, we'll show up together.
So I don't think.
I don't know if any like mostof some of our listeners are
probably in this space enough tounderstand what frequencies are
, but I think it's really coolthe first time I ever heard
about like four, 32 Hertz.
It's like the frequency forlike your heart and your heart
chakra and can help balance that.
I think sometimes talking aboutthis stuff makes people feel

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like like out of touch.
They're like I have no idea whatyou're talking about, but what
I would say is the first time Iever heard of this was like
after a um, a Reiki session andshe she basically was just like
I want you to listen to this onyour way home and you're you
might cry a lot, um, but we'retrying to balance that heart

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chakra and this will help dothat.
It was so weird to me becauseI'm just listening to this
frequency in the car and it'sjust like yeah, but it like I
could feel it in my heart, andso there are different
frequencies with differentchakras and different parts of

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the body and I just invitepeople to like be open to the
possibility that, like it'spossible to hear something and
feel it correlated somewhere inyour body.
It was just the wildest thingto me.
That was kind of what got mestarted on like oh my God,
there's something to this andyou know dogs can hear
frequencies that humans can't,so there's clearly something

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there.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Absolutely Well, and you know we think we're all
energy.
Everything, everything about usis energy and frequency, and so
we do.
We respond to these things.
It's another reason why, likeEMFs and 5G, can have a negative
effect on us, because it'smessing with those frequencies.
It is such a powerful frequencythat it's it's going to affect

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us.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
So my husband doesn't believe me on that one, but
I've got like Shungite stickersand yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
What's that?
It's like a kind of neutralizes.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah yeah, it's like a you can buy like stickers.
It's kind of like a crystal.
Send it to me, okay.
Yeah, I mean you're supposed tolike set them by your like TVs
and your internet cable and likeyou can also put it on your
phone, the sticker you can puton your phone.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I need that.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yeah, yeah, I mean and a lot of you know actually
like EMF sensitivity, soelectromagnetic radiation will
show up on the biofeedback aswell for certain people.
I mean, you know, I have to say, not everyone is super
sensitive to that frequency, butit's come up a lot lately.
So you know, I like to say,don't sleep with your phone,

(56:23):
obviously, but I mean, if it isin your room airplane mode is
helpful, because when we'reasleep we're really a lot more
vulnerable to these frequencies.
Oh wow, like you don't want yourWi-Fi router in your bedroom,
that'd be a big no-no.
I would move it.
You know, to be as far awayfrom sleeping as possible.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I never even thought about that stuff.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I heard that quite a few times Like not to sleep with
your phone connected to Wi-Finext to you.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Right, right.
I mean it's just because Ithink we're well, we're always
sensitive to it, but when you'resleeping you're especially
vulnerable, so because that'swhen you're healing, that's when
your defenses are down.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
So I fully believe that there was an app that I
used to use that, um, you couldspeak affirmations into it with
your own voice.
Um, oh God, I can't remember thename of it, but I did it for a
while and I would sleep withthat because it was frequencies
behind my voice, speakingaffirmations like to myself, and

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it's like when you are in thatsleep state you are more
vulnerable and easily right.
I hate saying the wordmanipulated, but like, yes, like
that's why in like some reallybad cases, like people will
sleep, deprive people tomanipulate them right um right,

(57:47):
yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
So I was like putting all the positive affirmations
in my brain now I want to takemy phone and like put it in my
bathroom yeah, yeah, you can,yeah and just like set my alarm,
and that would that's what Ihad to get my butt up.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Okay.
But, airplane mode works too.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Airplane mode is great.
I know a lot of people don'tlike that because I don't know.
I guess you can't still getcalls if it's on airplane mode.
So, but yeah, I mean, if youmove it, just get it away from
me.
That's the biggest thing.
This is why, like again, likegrounding sheets sometimes
people talk about the groundingbags stuff like while you're
sleeping can help a lot too,because that does mitigate EMF.

(58:24):
I've seen that too.
Yeah, they're a little pricey.
I like you know I'm, you knowit's kind of the same thing as
going out and grounding orearthing.
You know I'm you know it's kindof the same thing as going out
and grounding or earthing.
You know, just bare feet on thegrass, um same idea.
But if you want like a fun giftfor yourself, yeah, I think
grounding sheets are great.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
I just heard about palming.
What's that?
It's like grounding, but like,instead of having to take your
shoes and socks off outside, youliterally just like sit on the
ground with your palms on theground.
Yeah, off outside, youliterally just like.
Sit on the ground with yourpalms on the ground.
Yeah, people think I'm so weird.
Y'all.
I'm so happy to be in a roomwith weirdos.

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I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
We all think the same way we're not weird, they are
no right actually I'm not theweird one, so back to the
biofeedback.
Okay Cause.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I feel like bring us back in, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, um, it's like when it's pages long, like going
through it.
Um, a lot of what shows up hasshown up.
For me is like anger grief.
We learned that I wasdehydrated.
I'm trying to think of, I'mliterally trying to like I'm
drawing a blank.
I struggle with sleep which, bythe way, I realized I was

(59:41):
taking like 10 milligrams ofmelatonin not like one.
Right yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
I changed.
It makes a difference.
It does, because you probablywere waking up like a thorn.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Yeah, I was like oh god, I guess I'm gonna get ready
for the day right, right, wait,you were taking 10 and thought
it was one.
No, I was taking 10.
And then I talked to herbecause like I had low melatonin
, so she was like we'll takemelatonin.
And then she was like how muchare you taking?
I was like I don't know, Ithink like five maybe.
I went home and it was 10 andshe's like, yeah, I want you to

(01:00:13):
take like one.
And I would wake up and Ibecause I would be like, well, I
don't have, you know, melatonin, I need melatonin and I've.
I would be like really, yeahlike groggy and like, still,
like I just want to go back tobed and one of the worst ones
too, is like delayed release.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
I'd like to say don't .
Don't do that either becauseyou want.
The melatonin is great, youknow, I'm not saying don't use
it, but I do.
I like a low dose and I don'tlike the delayed release, cause
you mainly it's just kind of toget to sleep, you know, just to
just to help a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
But um yeah, but a lot of things showed up cause it
was like emotions it.
It was like emotions, it waslike dehydrate.
I don't even remember all ofthe things that were wrong with
me so I don't know, I don't knowif you remember either, but so
much, so, so much I'm like am Iyour worst?

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
client.
Well, and anger is aninteresting one because, um,
when that shows up, I alwaysfocus on the liver.
The liver is the holder of thatheavy emotion.
So anger you may not even feel.
I mean, I'm sure you saw thatand you're like I don't even
feel angry why.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
She's pretty angry all the time, not all the time
I'm working on it, but anger is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
I think anger for me was a safer emotion than crying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Like dealing with the other yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, and also anykind of like, when the liver is
stressed it will hold that anger, but also, at the same time,
when you're feeling angry it'sgoing to be hard on the liver.
So you know it really, butlifting that emotion can be a
game changer.
I don't know how you're doingon the Bach flowers.

(01:01:53):
Did you like them?

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I do love them, yeah, I want more, because I feel
like, don't they kind of likefade after?

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Yeah, I mean the first two weeks after I blend
them, they're the most helpful.
I mean, you can still use themafter that, but yeah, okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Yeah, no I felt a difference with that.
I that, um, I'm trying to thinkif there's anything to include
on the biofeedback Cause thatwas.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I don't know, I just had never done that before and
it was the most.
Do you remember what showed upfor you?
I honestly do.
I think some grief and sadness,um, which we all know.
When we've talked about itbefore, she brought that up and
I was like, well, my husband's arecovering alcoholic, so
there's a lot of grief.
That, yeah, you know, we'vebeen working through and that's
the thing, though, like we havebeen, like I, it's not anything
that that I didn't, I knowalready know it's very accurate.

(01:02:41):
I've already been kind ofworking through, which was
really interesting well, it'salso nice.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
It's almost kind of liberating to see it like okay,
so I'm not.
I know, yeah, I know my bodyand yeah, so this is correct,
you know it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
And I think that it's probably going to be there for
a while because it's it's aconstant healing process of
working through it.
So you know, hopefully nexttime it'll be a little bit
better.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Yeah Well, I was going to ask like, can there,
can I ever get to a point whereyou're like you know what You're
?
Great Biofeedback, it wasperfect you have all peaceful
emotions, I feel like well, youknow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
I feel like we're a work in progress, so not to say
that you know, even me, I'm notgoing to be perfect.
Really.
I mean, there's alwayssomething that I can work on.
I mean, will you get a tonbetter?
And probably be like, yeah, youdon't need to come see me as
often.
You know what?
I mean, yeah, like that kind ofthing, and we'll just do like a
maintenance thing.
But you know I feel like payingattention to you and you know

(01:03:46):
focusing on your health is nevera waste of time.
You know you can always benefitin some way.
I love that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
One thing I forgot to include is in the biofeedback
it showed up that I had candida.
Can you explain what?

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
candida is yes, so candida is naturally occurring
in the gut.
We all have some, okay, andit's not necessarily a bad thing
.
It's when digestion is moreslow that we can have an
overgrowth of candida, which canlead to UTIs or yeast
infections, or you know thrush,or you know really a lot of

(01:04:23):
different things.
It does go hand in hand withestrogen dominance.
So it's you know.
It's really important to get ahandle on it.
Candida is a fungus and if toomuch of a fungus for too long,
it can really cause a bigger outof balance condition.
So we do, you know.
That is, and Candida is verycommon.
Okay, common is not what I liketo say.

(01:04:45):
It's not normal, but it'scommon.
A lot of people today do have alot of overgrowth of Candida,
um, today do have a lot ofovergrowth of candida, um, but
it is of root of you know a lotof different imbalances.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
So I like to get a handle on that for sure.
Yeah, yeah, which that hasimproved, luckily that tracks
with you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sure does.
Do you have any tips on peoplewho also have high estrogen,
like I do?

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Yes, well, first and foremost, blood sugar is really.
I mean, that is one of my topfocuses for a reason because
when, um, when you have erraticblood sugars, if you're eating
too much sugar, that's reallygoing to lower your progesterone
and um, be hard on youradrenals and then the estrogen
gets out of control.

(01:05:31):
So, um, also, like, if you haveslow digestion, that's a big um
red flag because estrogen onlyleaves through the bowels.
So if you're not going to thebathroom every day, then a lot
of that excess estrogen is justcirculating.
Um, you know, and there's a lotof different kinds of estrogen.
So, you know, even like someonethat's postmenopausal, they're
like well, I don't have anyestrogen.

(01:05:52):
Well, yeah, you do, becauseyour fat cells still continue to
make it.
And we're being surrounded byso many toxic estrogens beauty
care products, even the water, Imean, we're truly bombarded by
excess estrogens, and so youreally want to continually be
detoxing your body, and thenumber one way is going to the

(01:06:13):
bathroom every day.
So, um, but you know, at thesame time, I'm a huge fan of
some bioidentical progesterone.
I feel like, you know, after theage of 35, our progesterone
really starts to wane.
Progesterone is a very calming,protective hormone.
Um, when it's missing, thenestrogen kind of gets unbalanced

(01:06:33):
and erratic.
We don't want that because thatcan cause other bigger problems
.
So, um, I do carry progesteronein my office because it is.
It's a great thing tosupplement when needed.
It's safe.
Um, it really helps to improvesleep.
If you're not sleeping,oftentimes it's low progesterone
is to blame.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
I learned so many things.
I could pick one out of a lot.
I know seriously Things that wewere taught.
And then I hear it from you andit validates what I've been
feeling or I've seen itsomewhere else.
I'm like, huh, that goesagainst everything that I ever
learned.
And then you say it and I'mlike, oh my God, like it doesn't

(01:07:18):
matter how much water you'redrinking, you could still be
dehydrated if you're not gettingenough sodium.
And what I learned growing upis too much sodium is bad for
you.
And now you and I are drinkingour salty drinks every morning.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
I drink two elements a day, baby Right.
I got one?
Yeah, because I was dehydratedand I started drinking those
You're like how I drink so muchwater.
I'm like that's literally all Idrink.
Is water, right?
And I guess can you explainthat?
Because now I started drinkingtwo elements a day and then the
next time I came back you'relike oh my gosh, it's so much

(01:07:55):
better.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Yeah, definitely.
I mean I think low sodium is ahuge problem with our society
because a lot of people drinkinga ton of water, not not feeling
quenched, still feeling thirsty.
That water is just not gettingpushed into the cells.
So you know low sodium, whatdepletes sodium?
Why is everyone so low insodium?
Adrenal fatigue, adrenalimbalance.

(01:08:17):
Because the adrenal glands arereally nourished by sodium.
When they are stressed any kindof adrenal stress, so that's
emotional or physical you lose alot of sodium and potassium,
especially overnight.
So in the morning is whenyou're really going to feel that
depletion.
Sometimes people wake up kindof shaky or like a headache

(01:08:38):
front or the back of the head,some like maybe some leg cramps,
heart palpitations.
You know a lot of things.
But also when you're low insodium you're going to be low
for stomach acid.
So that means your digestion iskind of struggling,
constipation.
I love sodium because it'sgoing to help.
Low for stomach acid, so thatmeans your digestion is kind of
struggling, constipation.

(01:08:59):
I love sodium because it'sgoing to help to improve gut
motility and it works prettyquickly too.
But you've really.
It also sets you up for betterblood sugars throughout the day,
because when you're low insodium your blood sugar tends to
be more erratic, so getting itin the morning can be a game
changer, just to keep you moreeven.
Also, sodium lowers adrenaline.
So when you think about theadrenal glands, that's one of

(01:09:20):
words what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
So it's really I love my lmnt same it's, I know link
in bio and that is like.
I drink it every single morning, every morning and and it gets.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
It's gotten to the point where I crave it.
Yes, like I want it, like I feellike it's it, like it hydrates
me right where with before, whenI was just drinking straight
water, I could drink and drinkand drink it was never enough
and then the other problem thatI would have is I always just
felt so thirsty and so, like alot of times, I would, you know,
drink before bed because, likeyou know, I had dinner and like

(01:10:00):
I'd brush my teeth and theneverything I did, I felt like I
had to like chug water.
Isn't that interesting?

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
But, then at night like and I still struggle with
this a little bit going to thebathroom all night.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Easily, like before it was like four or five times a
night.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
So then I'm not getting good sleep.
Right.
So has that gotten better ithas.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
But it doesn't when I'm not doing the right things.
Like you said, I have to bevery intentional about like my
everyday habits.
Yeah, truly, and and yeah, um,this is off topic, but we've
talked about like ssris, evenlittle things like I feel, like

(01:10:47):
people here.
We live in the valley, westruggle with allergies and so
people's immediate the valley.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
People's immediate.
La.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
That's what I was thinking, I know the valley
that's right Ohio Valley.
The Ohio Valley.
The Ohio Valley.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
It sounds a lot cooler.
Yeah, you made it sound reallycool.
We live in the valley.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Do we?

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
But, like, everyone's go-to is to like take an
allergy pill or you know youhave a headache you take an
ibuprofen or you do this andlike what are your opinions on,
just kind of even just like overthe counter?

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
drugs.
Well um, allergies indicate afull liver, so I've really and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I emailed you about this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Yeah, I do really like um digestive enzymes though
, because so enzymes are likePac-Man in the body.
They really kind of run throughand they break down these
undigested proteins andinorganic minerals, toxins,
allergens that are kind of justfloating around causing problems
like allergies.
So if we increase our digestiveenzymes, that can really

(01:11:57):
alleviate a lot of symptoms.
Um, and I find also, you know,as we age you lose a lot of that
digestive enzyme activity.
You just don't have as much ofit and so, honestly, the
majority of the population couldreally benefit from digestive
enzymes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah, I take some, I have to check out what you take.
Yeah, well and OK, that bringsme to my next point, because I
feel like after seeing you, mymorning routine was simplified,
like I felt like not sooverwhelmed.
I remember when I came to you Iwas like I don't know what I'm

(01:12:35):
supposed to be taking.
Like you hear this is good, soyou take it.
You hear this is good, so youtake it.
The same with like magnesium.
Like everybody is on this, likebig magnesium kick right now,
and it's like your body can'teven right absorb it.
Right, if you're not doing thisand if you're deficient in this
, then the magnesium is notdoing anything.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Well, and when we were going to the functional
practitioner, like we weretaking a lot of supplements and
they were expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, yeah, I was on a lot of supplements.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Yeah, and so then it's like and then they change,
and then they changed everymonth.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
So then when?

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
you're done, you're like okay, so what should I do?

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Right, right, and that's kind of where I was like
I was left lost because I'm likewell, so now what what do I do
now?
What do I need?
So when I came to you, I had alist of what I was taking and it
was really just like basic.
I'm like I take vitamin A, Itake vitamin D, I take vitamin
B12.
And you were like, okay, youdon't need this, you don't need
this.
This is what you do need, thisis what you do need, this is

(01:13:31):
what you do need, this is whatyou do need.
And I was like that made it somuch easier for me, yeah, to
follow.
it wasn't goal, yeah, near isoverwhelming right and we don't
think about the fact that, like,everybody's body needs
different things and so justbecause vitamin a is good for
you doesn't mean you need it.
Right, right, right, yeah Ilove that about you.

(01:13:52):
Yeah, there's a lot of things Ilove about you but I'm a I'm a
Bethany believer now yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
That's Stan.
Okay, I have one more question.
Okay, what are?
What is your opinion on birthcontrol?
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Can you elaborate why ?
So it is not fixing anything.
It is only tricking the body tothinking that it's it's just.
It's like it's it's synthetichormones, and synthetic hormones
are very toxic.
So you know it's um.

(01:14:31):
It's often way over prescribedfor for everything from acne to
depression to um lighter periods.
Yeah To you know, get periodsunder control.
Um no, and it really itincreases a lot of toxic
estrogens in the body.
So again, you know, and it andit takes a long time to get back

(01:14:52):
into balance from that I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
It took me two years yeah it's very to be off of it
fully to have like normalperiods again.
I thought I was a heavy bleederfor life and that two years
coming off of it like I wantedto go back on it yeah so many
times.
It took two years for my skinto clear up.

(01:15:15):
It took so long.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Are heavy periods normal, I feel like they're
normal, but like normal, likethat's a lot of women struggle
with that I feel like a lot ofwomen struggle with that Is that
something, where maybe there'ssomething Common or normal.
Is there something underlying?
Yes, absolutely.
I've read that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think number one a lot of.
I mean even 12 year olds evenjust starting your period, they
have the worst cramps ever.
I would have put myself in thatcategory way back then.
Looking back, what was thenumber one thing?
Not eating enough protein 100%.
People overeat the carbs.
Not enough protein 100.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
People overeat the carbs not enough.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Always the protein.
It truly I mean, because if youdid that and just stayed,
really hydrated cramps would gobye-bye.
It's not yeah and so and thenyou think about so you've got
this huge problem.
You're trying to just go to thedoctor, get a pill fix it, but
really it's just setting you upfor maybe even a fertility

(01:16:15):
problem.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
You know what I?

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
mean it's just more problems down the road.
But people just don't know.
People don't know how easy of afix these things can be.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I have a documentary that I recommend to everybody
the Business of Birth Control.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
It is a really good one.
It will change your life whenit comes to whether or not you
are thinking about being on oroff, or putting your children on
or off birth control.
It's a really good documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
But what about?
So then?
If you hate it, what is thealternative for young girls?
Who are wanting a form of birthcontrol like preventative.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Well, I would say I would go to the barrier method
before anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
What is that I have?

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
condoms.
Oh, oh, apparently we're.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Never heard of her.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I'm married with three kids.
I've been married a long time.
What are those I mean?
But I basically I'm so sorry.
Oh that Right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Okay, oh, that Okay.
So I mean because that doesn'tmess with you.
Okay, so that you know it isnot going to mess with your
hormones.
I don't want you to takeanything that's going to mess
with your hormones.
But also pay attention to yourbody.
You know, I know that you knowas you get older it's easier to
do, obviously, but pay attentionto your cycles.
You can't get pregnant everyday of your cycle.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
You know there's like five or six days that it's even
remotely possible I meanhonestly, maybe even closer to
three when you and I juststarted using the starlight app
and I've had period trackingapps before, but the starlight
app is the first app that hasever told me anything about the
follicular phase, the lutealphase, the ovulation phase and I
was like I need to start using.

(01:18:17):
I have never learned so muchabout my body than using this
app.
I didn't know what luteal meant.
I didn't know what follicularwas like.
I didn't know that, like you,could be working out and doing
different things duringdifferent times.
And yeah, it's.
It's very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Do you know what her nickname is?

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
What is my nickname?

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Oh, we call her Ludia Leah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
It happens every time where I'm like I'm like a hot
mess.
I'm either super ragey or I'msuper emotional and I'm like am
I in my Ludial?
And then I look and I'm like ohyeah.
I'm in my Ludial.
And so that's the thing that Ithink is a big misconception.
So many people and women I wasone of them, I'm a woman and I
felt this way.
I thought that like when youwere on your period, you were

(01:19:03):
emotional and that was your mostemotional, yeah, and you see
memes about it, like you know,and then it's like actually, no,
you are more emotional duringyour luteal phase, which is the
leading up to the period phase.
Right.
Yeah Right, why aren't wetaught this stuff?
Yeah, they don't even teachthis in.
No.

(01:19:24):
You got to Home ec in anatomy inany of that shit.
I had to learn it as a 40 yearold woman on an app.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
That's why we're here .
That's why we're here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
So yeah, the tracking works and the barrier method.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Condoms, condoms, never heard of it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
She made me say it, but I will also kind of throw
this in too.
You know, I feel like,especially like teenage years,
early twenties, anxiety becomesan issue, and I kind of want to
talk about that too.
Oh yeah, it is always a hormoneproblem um too much estrogen,

(01:20:05):
always okay, so, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
so this generation of kids and teens, I feel like,
are so mentally sick.
They struggle with anxiety,struggle with depression.
It is, I've noticed, having twoyoung stepdaughters is that so

(01:20:29):
many of their friends aremedicated.
It's almost the norm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
I feel like we're the not norm family because none of
our kids are medicated.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
And I think that my kids are not different, but
we're not the norm because we'renot a medicated family and
people think that's super weird,right?
Yes like I talk about austinhaving adhd and they're like is
he medicated?

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
I'm like no, yeah, no , yeah and I won't either yeah,
and I think my son has adhd aswell, and like that's not even.
I'm like okay, we're gonna beoutside all day long, yeah, you
know we're gonna play and getsome energy out.
But for, like the teens whoreally struggle with, you know,
anxiety, depression, like whatare some tools that us parents

(01:21:22):
can use for our kids, becausethis is a very.
This is like new territory,because when I was in high
school I didn't.
I think I had anxiety, but Ididn't even know what that meant
, where now I feel like they'reexposed to so much and all of
them, most of them, a lot ofthem, whatever um they, they

(01:21:46):
mentally struggle, greatquestion.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and which is it's very
multifaceted, so like not everyum case is going to be the same,
what I would do is really focuson blood sugar, number one.
I really would, you know, makesure they get plenty of protein
and really try to limitprocessed foods, because those

(01:22:09):
have, like these excitatorychemicals.
I know it is hard, very hardfor kids, I feel like even going
to school they're just it'sthrown at them.
I mean it's it's.
So.
It's very, very hard, um, but Ialways feel like, instead of
saying don't do this, don't dothis, don't do this, let's try
to crowd it out with good stuff.

(01:22:30):
Let's, you know, really try to,like, give them lots of protein
, you know, fruits andvegetables, give them as good
clean water as you can, um, youknow, and then the occasional
treat's going to happen.
It's just, it's going to happenbecause that's the world we
live in, you know, and so it'sall about some balance.
Um, sleep is very important.

(01:22:52):
So, you know, regular sleepschedules are a big um, but,
like I said, every case is verydifferent.
I do have, I carry, the Vervitaline of supplements, and there
is one that I really, reallylove for kids, um, in cases of,
like, anxiety or depression, andSpiracel is wonderful.

(01:23:14):
There's one that does reallywell with it, called Calms at
nighttime.
That's really fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
I take those.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Oh, do you yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Did I give you those?
No, oh you just took them.
Yeah, can you get them?
Can you get them from WholeFoods?
I don't think so.
Okay, I'm thinking of somethingelse.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Yeah them.
Can you get them from wholefoods?
I don't think so.
Okay, I'm thinking of somethingelse.
Yeah, okay, never mind, yeah, Idon't think so.
But I mean, spirit cell isreally wonderful because it has
natural gaba gaba is verycalming um, also it has like all
the methylated b vitamins, soit really supports methylation,
which is normally a problem aswell.
But I mean, you know, there aredefinitely, there's so many

(01:24:00):
ways that you can support thesekids.
It's you know, and also youneed to realize that kids are so
resilient.
They're not like us where it'slike an uphill climb, you know.
I mean, a lot of times theyhave youth on their side.
You know, it's just a couplelittle things that you can put
in there to really kind of reinthem back in and make a huge
difference in how they feel.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
So, yeah, I was listening to a podcast the other
day and I think I sent it toyou, but it was talking about
like anxiety and kids these daysand how we are, as a society,
trying to get rid of anxiety.
But it's actually notnecessarily always a negative
thing.
It can be an indicator thatsomething needs to change.

(01:24:38):
It can be a invitation to move,and the way that she said it
was like imagine someone who hasnever experienced anxiety in
their life, who doesn't knowwhat that is, never had it pure,
pure, pure.
They're going to cross thestreet without looking both ways
because they have no fear.
Right, and a little bit of fearis healthy?

(01:25:02):
Oh yeah, Because it teaches youto be cautious.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Well, the same with cortisol.
A little bit of cortisol isgood.
The cortisol is a good thing.
It's when it's imbalanced thatit becomes a problem.
But yes, like anxiety, is thereto protect us first and
foremost.
You know, it's when it startsdisrupting your life that it's
becomes a problem.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Well, I think a lot of people don't realize like
well, maybe I need to changesome things in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Or maybe my job is causing my anxiety.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Right, maybe the way I eat, maybe how I'm sleeping?
Yeah, the processed foods.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
One is I went down a rabbit hole the other day that,
um, and this is you can lookthis up but, like big tobacco
companies, bought a lot of thefood companies because they
realized that they were just asaddictive because of the things
that are put in them as nicotineis.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
So sad yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
They own a lot of the big processed food companies
and even like to parents who arelike well, my kids ate
mcdonald's, I make donald's andI turned out fine.
I saw a video where it's like,yeah, but the the fries that
they made 30 years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
They're made differently now yeah, like
because they are always tryingto find cheaper ways to make
that food well, they used to befried in beef tallow, oh, which
is a real food, okay, oh, likenow it's seed oils, canola oil,
vegetable oil, very inflammatory, highly toxic, I mean, you know

(01:26:26):
.
So it's just not the same.
It's just not the same than itused to be.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Reading a lot about seed oils too.
Here's's the thing.
All of this information cansound so overwhelming, because
it's a lot.
It's a lot.
Yeah, I will leave people withthis.
You can never be 100% toxicfree, no, and you can never be

(01:26:52):
100% processed processed food,for I mean, I guess you could,
but that would be a really,really hard life to maintain, to
live your life.
It's not like, yeah, live yourlife right I think what we keep
coming back to in thisconversation.
Conversation is intention, yeah, and you can be intentional and
you can lighten the loadexactly, and so it's almost like

(01:27:13):
I know soda's bad for me, butevery now and then I'm like I'm
gonna treat myself to a soda.
But I know it's bad for me, but, like, my intention isn't like.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
I drink this every single day, multiple times a day
.
It's like you know, I'm havingpizza with my family.
I'm gonna have a Diet Coke.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Exactly Right.
Yeah, yeah, except I don't dodiet.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
Okay, a little bit being real, I'm still
intentional.
Okay, that's right, that'sright Do you have anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
No, I think we covered so much.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
I mean, this podcast could be five hours.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
It really could, if I wanted it to be.
I know podcast could be fivehours.
It really could.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
I wanted it to be I know I gotta let her go so I can
eat some protein.
Thank you all so much forhaving me thank you, it's really
really fun.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
We're pretty fun.
Yeah, I'm a fun person I know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
When you saw me I was like timid and like, oh god,
there's so much wrong with mebeth is awesome yeah I I'm
excited to get to know you more.
I'm excited to come see you formy second appointment and for
everybody in the Louisville area, even if you're like outside of
Louisville, I would say worththe drive because you're what
I'm seeing you every 10 weeksright now.

(01:28:27):
Worth the drive.
Can you leave your websiteinformation and your Instagram?
Yeah, Absolutely.
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
So findingtherootcom is my website.
My email is bethany atfindingtherootcom.
My Instagram handle it'sfindingtherootllc.
I believe.
We'll link it, but it is linkedon my website as well, so my
Facebook and my Instagram is onthe website but yeah you know,

(01:28:57):
check me out.
Um, you know, I just want to.
I love to help people.
I really truly do, and so youknow I love my clients and I
just love improving our qualityof lives, you know and it's
really what it's about, so itshows you we can feel it um to
all of our listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
We'll leave notes in the bio um link in bio um and
we'll see you guys on the otherside.

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