Becky Kiser on Balancing Family, Faith, and Female Leadership

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Becky Kiser (00:00):
Things were going unbelievably well and I felt like it

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was just time for whatever was next,but I didn't know what that was.
I was like, okay, we're going to shutthe door on this ministry and just see.
And I closed everything downin December and, three months
later, COVID took over our world.
And because I had closed things down,I had the capacity to just say to

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God, I have this white space now,Lord, how can I help your people?
How can I help you?
Um, uh,

Tim Winders (00:42):
How can we turn our everyday lives from ordinary to
extraordinary through faith andcommunity today on seek, go create.
We're thrilled to have Becky Kaiser,a passionate advocate for empowering
women to embrace their faith.
and live impactful lives.
As the founder of Sacred Holidays andauthor of the new book, But God Can, How

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to Stop Striving and Live Purposefullyand Abundantly, Becky is dedicated
to helping women find confidence inChrist and fall in love with his word.
Through her innovative online platformsand speaking engagements around the world,
Becky offers not just spiritual guidance,Practical tools to deepen one's faith

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and chase after dreams and callings.
Becky, welcome to seek, go create.

Thank you so much for having me, Tim.
I'm really excited to getto chat with you today.

I'm excited about this conversation too, because when I see
things like how to stop striving andlive purposefully and abundantly,
I start salivating a little bit.
Hopefully the people onthe video don't see that or

it's like perfectly in line for all that you preach
and teach about constantly.
Yes.

It does it fits so well here, but first question the, I'm used
to call it an icebreaker, but it's,it's now become like a kind of a joke.
But if somebody asks you whatyou do, do you tell them?

That's like the big general question.
That's wow, what a big question.
what do I do?
I am an author, which is one of thethings that you just shared about.
I'm an author, speaker,women's events, prisons, and
all different kinds of things.
I'm a certified life coach.
Yes.
And I'm a serial entrepreneur when itcomes to ministry things, I love starting

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things and seeing where they go and grow.
And I am married to my husband, Chris.
We've been married for 17years and have three girls.
So a, what grades are they in now?
Third, fifth and seventh graders.
So we are in that tween and teengirl stage where it's lots of
emotions in our house, ranging fromreally awesome to really terrible.

So that's a great answer.
But the first thing that popped inmy head here I need to know a little
bit more about Chris, who has Four

lot, a lot of

women, females in the house and they're in the teenage years.
And I'm sure all low maintenance, justeasy to get along with low energy.
I can tell you're low energy.
So tell me just a little bitabout Chris before we jump off the

yeah, yeah.
I mean, typically he walks in from workand we're just sitting in a circle,
holding hands, singing songs softly.
Chris, Chris gets patted on theback often in public by strangers
of men just saying, So sorry.
And it's one of the things thatI love about him is he'll look
him in the eyes and be like, I'mnot, I love having all girls.

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And it is definitely different for sure.
And there are times that he embracesthe girls, putting face mask on him
and learning all kinds of dance moves.
He'd never do typically, he's become a50 because he's had to, But yes, the,
the emotions are the parts where it'slike, he says there are days I walk

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in the house and then just want toslowly back right back to the garage.
Cause someone's either crying orscreaming or two different people
are feeling two different extremes.
So yeah, it is, it's an experience.
We got him a boy dog during COVIDbecause we felt like he needed
another male in the household.

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So we got him a boy dog.

Oh, good.
Trying to create some balancein the force or something.
But, and the reason it's intriguingfor me is our daughter has blessed
us with two granddaughters.
And so I think about our son inlaw Hunter, who is a girl dad.
And, and so he's experiencing them.
They're young, they're four and two,and I'm like going, this is a, this

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is a dynamic that's challenging.
so related to that, We're,we're early on here.
I would love for you to answer aquestion and that is we're, we're
going to, we're going to go into, butGod can, we're going to talk about
how to stop striving and all of that.
And I know that your ministry and Iget it is primarily focused on women.

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However.
If, if Joe Guy is still listening hereat the three minute mark, why should
he stick around for this conversation?
Why should he hang with us?
I know why I'm, that's why I'm havingthe conversation, but what do you think?
Why should he stick around?

love that you're asking that question.
And I would hope that Joe,whoever would continue listening.
sometimes we think girls shouldteach girls and boys should teach
boys and men can't learn from women.
And that's like a very,especially prevalent.
conversation within the church, right?
That we could do like a wholepodcast episode on that alone.

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there's no reason one, becauseeverything I'm sharing, while I
write specifically for women, whythe cover of my book is hot pink.
All the truths that Ishare in it are there.
They're not.
central to one gender or another.
Every truth about God is stilltrue for women as it is for men.
Every encouragement and challengewithin the book and that I would

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share as a woman is relevant for men.
So I'd say number one, you shouldlisten because you should listen
because it's always good to hearand learn from different voices.
The other thing that I would sayis that me as someone who focuses
intentionally chooses to focus on womenspecifically where there's a lot of
women that focus on male and female.

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I love to speak in one, like thespecific language that women speak.
So every man has females in their lives.
My husband happens to have a lot.
So not every man has as many as myhusband, but we have mothers, we
have sisters, we have wives, we havedaughters, granddaughters, coworkers.

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And so to learn some of those specificbents where that women struggle in,
it's so essential that as, as men.
who are often elevated in, inchurch culture to be leaders,
know how to best serve, love, andsupport the women in their lives.
So there, this is, you can listenfrom two different voices of both be

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selfish in this, but then also youget to learn how to love others really
well by listening to this conversation.

Yeah.
And, and I love, I think that'sone of the themes or one of the
takeaways from your new book.
We'll talk more about that in amoment, but, you have an action steps
of love God, love self, love others.
And to, to me, one of the challengeswith our modern cultures, most

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of us, and I'll point to myself,we're wrapped up in ourselves.
And the way we show lovingothers is to do that.
I, I gotta tell yousomething funny though.
You brought up the hot pink.
All right.
If you're listening on audio, I'mgoing to paint a picture for you.
Tim is sitting here with a white andgray background in the RV, wearing

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the shirt color that I wear allthe time, which is a black t shirt.
And that's Tim.
Tim, that's people that know me know.
Okay.
In fact, this morning I mentioned tomy wife, Oh no, we've got an emergency.
I'm almost out of black t shirts.
I do the laundry in the house.
So that means that's mycue to do the laundry.

Yes.

Becky is sitting here with a leopard print.
on and I don't think that's lime green,but it's not a muted green shirt And and
I I do see in the background some hotpink in two different places And and I
want to tell you last night I was I waspulling up your some information and and

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and going through some things with yourbook and Having a lot of fun with it.
And when I pulled up the one pagerfor those that don't know one
pager is just Information thatwe get on people that are guests.
I opened it up You My wife was sittingacross from me doing something else
on her laptop and I went, ah, Iliterally almost yelled out loud

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and I turned my laptop around.
I said, look at all of this coloron this one sheet because mine is
muted gray and black and white.
need to celebrate our differences, right?

Yes.
And Tim, let me just say, you are,you're not the first interview that
I've done with a male on the, as I'vebeen like working on book tour stuff.
And it has so impressed me thatyou're willing to have, especially
even knowing that you're amale who is muted gray tones.
And my, which my husband appreciates.

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He's black and white is the wayhe lives, both in how he processes
and what his preferences are.
And I'm like every shade inbetween the whole rainbow.
I love that you're willing to saywe all have something to learn.
And, it made me excited when I was like,another guy is signing up for this.
I think this is amazing.
And I'm sure it,

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was also shocking and you maybe neededto put sunglasses on and that's fine.

I, yeah, there was a lot of color on that one page or more color
than I may have seen in the last few.
Now, the, the cool thing about it,and I think this just goes to the,
the value of learning and listening.
When my wife and I gotmarried, we're 35 years in now.
So this has been a long time,but I still remember it.
This is why it's important.

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Our first house, I said, offwhite eggshell walls, that's best
for resale, blah, blah, blah.
And she was kind of sortof, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it was early on, nexthouse, just a few years later,
she goes this wall right here, twostory wall, right behind the sofa.
That is an accent wall.
We are going to paint that.

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And at first, when the color started goingon, I thought it was fire engine red.
As it dried, this was the nineties.
So it was popular then it becamemore of a deeper Burgundy, but I,
Becky, I hated it when I first saw

I

but you know what, though, over time, I begin to go, I
understand why we need an accent wall.
And I've told her, I appreciate youbringing color in, into my life.
Now

I love it.

that's a little bit of a light touch.
to my bigger question.
That's going to be a deep intothe pool type question here.

Okay.

What is it about culture that creates so much pressure on
us to not accept the accent walls?
That people want to throw at us.
And I could tell you, I didnot have that written down.
So we'll, we'll assume the Holyspirit's working here with the,
with the accent walls and the color.

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Why is it?
Because I also think that that leads tothe pressure that we're going to talk
about that culture puts on women and men.
I mentioned earlier, we've got, we'vegot a really cool couple of episodes
here that look at the dichotomies, but,what's going on with all the pressure
that's coming down on specifically.
Women today.

Yeah.
I, I would say that first thepressure, at least in how I interpret
your question with the accent wall,I think there's a lot of pressure.
Christian culture and world cultureare a little bit different when
it comes to us as women, And men.
But there's a lot of pressurewithin the church for us as women
to be certain things, right?

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To be quiet and submissive, to, be wivesand mothers, to want to serve and host and
cook and wear aprons and all the things.
And for men, I would say on thereverse, there's this expectation
that you're strong and a leaderand boisterous and brave.
All these other things.

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So I'm sure you get to theman's side in, in the other
conversation you had referenced.
So I would say for women, theaccent while pressure for us is
that we, we feel this pressure tobe a certain way within the culture.
And then in the world, we're toldnow women have power, so go in.

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You, you do you boo is what likepeople are saying, and you can
do absolutely everything andyou could be anything you want.
You want to be president, go for it.
You want to change theworld, you can do that.
And all this pressure for women.
We have these two very large voicessitting on our shoulders of you

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can be anything and do anything.
Which isn't possible.
And also you need to only bethis and only look like this,
which is impossible either.
And so that leads to this liketurmoil that we all experienced,
which leads to facades going up of whoactually am I, what am I here to do?

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I have this drive to do this, but churchsays to do this, or I have this desire to
be this, but the world says that's wrong.
So for women specifically, that's thepressure we're constantly feeling is I
don't know where I belong in any desirethat wells up within me feels wrong and
out of place somewhere and not accepted.

Yeah.
And I think one of the things that'stough, this, and this is both men and
women is the, I don't even know ifthe comparison even fits in to it.
I mean, I, I jumped over last night andlooked at your Instagram and Instagram is
like one of the best places in the world.

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And one of the worstplaces in the world to go.
And yeah, and, and, and listen, we, we,I guess try to be authentic and some
people maybe are a little too authenticand, but it seems to me that that is a
little bit more of a challenge for women.

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I don't know, is that even afair statement to make the whole

100 percent of your statement.
Yeah.
And maybe in the same way, likenot too many men are super active
on Instagram, but I would say atleast for my husband, like LinkedIn
is a more popular place to go.
And so you can see how manyconnections do they have?
How many job offers havethey gotten that week?

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How many people haveaffirmed them in something?
Are you posting this andgetting this many views on it?
How, what are your job listings?
and in the same way for women, wego to Instagram or Facebook and, and
then for younger girls, it's just,there's like 25, 000 places they're on.
And, and it's visual.

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So you see like for men,it's more factual, right?
there's not too much you canfabricate on LinkedIn now.
You can still pose for sure.
and there's a lot of people who dofabricate it, but for Instagram,
you can post a actually filteredpicture of yourself smiling.

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But behind the scenes, yourmarriage is struggling.
Your house is a wreck.
Your kids are just on media all day long.
But then what I would see as a woman isshe's got it all together and I don't.
And so it is this, the comparisonfor sure is something that makes
us, it's another thing on us thatmakes us feel like I'm not enough.

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I don't have it together.
I'll never be as good as her.
I'll never.
Regardless of what field you're in,I'm an author speaker, but lawyers,
doctors, teachers, all that, you'reseeing other people be more successful
than you, but you're really justseeing a slice of their life.
And it may or may not even be real.
Which is tricky.

It is.
And our, our daughter, she shared withus that she's removed Instagram from
her phone and she brought it back on.
She said for all of two hoursand then said, you know what?
Not good.
All right, Becky, here's a, this isprobably going to be a tough question

Okay.

because I, I wrestle with this myself and I'm going to, I'm going to
lead up to it so you could your palms canget a little bit sweaty thinking about it.
Part of the challenge with that.
Is people that come on to theseplatforms and we're doing podcasts,

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we're writing books, we're, doingstudies and all of that kind of stuff.
And so I want to present the ironythat one of the things I do when I work
with executives and leaders is I try totell them to be more peaceful at rest,
create more white space in their lives.
yet when they look at me.

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They don't, you don't see the fullpicture, but they go, you're writing
books, you're doing podcasts,you got YouTube and all that.
I could see that women could lookat you and possibly be intimidated.
I mean, you got a lot of stuff going on.
Awesome stuff.
Awesome stuff.
So I told you, it's a tough question.
How would you respond if someone says,but Becky, I can't be like you look

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at all this stuff you've got going on.
And I hate to throw theword imperfection, but just.
All right, how about that?
Was that a that's atough question, isn't it?

It's a fair question.
And it's one that I'm sure people goto my page and sense, and they're for
sure pages I go to and have the exactsame feeling I would say it's one of
the reasons I try as often as I can to.
disarm people by sharing theimperfections of my life.
It's one of the reasons I try to dolives or podcast interviews without

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makeup on with a hat on insteadof my hair fix, because that's
real and I don't look glamorous.
Like my headshot would look every day.
Most of the time I'm in athletic clothes.
And Yeah, if somebody were to saythat to me, I would say back to
them, you're absolutely right.
And the truth is it's a,it's both a maturity response

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when we go onto social media.
And this is something I say tomy kids, my kids, friends, my
friends, myself is we all show.
the public persona on our socials, right?
And that's myself included.
Even though I try to be asintentional as I can to show as
much unfiltered parts, social media,isn't where I'm going to go first.

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If a doctor gives me a diagnosis, right?
I'm going to process that privately.
I'm going to processthat with my community.
When Chris and I are strugglingin our marriage, I'm That's not
where I'm going to post becauseit's not people's business.
And, and so that's where it's we haveto have the maturity to say, I'm seeing
one portion of everybody's life becausenow there are people that you referenced

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it to the overshare on social media,and that's a different conversation.
And those people just,they, they need help.
But for the rest of us, I think amature response is share, share as
vulnerably and authentically as you can.
But there are things that just belongin a living room and belong around a
table and don't belong on social media.

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So I can reference onsocial and my email list.
I can reference to them, Hey, Chrisand I've had a really hard year and
here's what we're doing to help, butI'm not posting every day, man, we
had another fight again, or whatever.
Because it's not social media's business.
That's not better for my marriage.
What's better for my marriage iswe're working through counseling

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and we're fighting for each otherand now we're in a good season.
but that, does that make senseto answer your question of

it does.
And, and I want to affirm thatI went and listened to Hearers
and Doers, your podcast.
I went and listened to a few episodes.
The first one I listened to, and maybethis gives you a little bit about me,
I'm looking for more of your story.
I want to find out more about that.
Becky, if I'm about to have a one hourconversation and the first one I went

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to, and I'm also looking at, how we doin podcasts, we say, okay, there's a
episode released every week and thensomething happened and then what's, and
I went to the one where you had just.
Had tonsils out.
Does that right?

Yeah.

and you basically with a little bit of a raspy voice
too, by the way, said, we're goingto take a break and we're not
going to do anything for a while.
And to me, that is the opposite of someonewho's attempting to power through and
do it just for the likes and dislikes.
And so I see that.

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but it, but it still does occur withpeople that they look at our best.
And truthfully, I, I'm getting to whereI really loathe the hashtag hot mess.
Oh, I'm a hot mess.
Because what happens is those, thisis what I've observed with people.
We have this Pavlovian response where it'slike, Oh my gosh, I got more likes on the

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hot mess post than I did on the, whateverpost I need to do more hot mess posts.
And then it becomes their life.
Anyway, we don't, let's,let's don't go down that road.
Tell me a little bit.
I'm, I'm always interested, not inlikes, Full spiritual story, but,

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were you, did you come out of the wombbeing a Jesus follower or was there a
little bit of a journey along the way?
What do you want to share about that?

Great question.
Definitely did not come out ofthe womb being a Jesus follower.
That is for sure.
My parents

And that, and that's bad, that's bad theology, by the way.
I just want to mentionto everyone that's bad

Yes, we, we can, we all hear the laughter hopefully and know
that that's not possible for anyone.
but it was for sure not possible for me.
My parents divorced when I was aninfant and they had joint custody,
like as joint as they come Monday,Tuesday, mom, Wednesday, Thursday,
dad, first, third weekend mom.
So that was my, I had avery split upbringing.

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My mom is, I don't know, shewouldn't consider herself an atheist.
She believes in mother earth.
So she is a spiritual person,but, so like creation is her God.
And when it's a full moon, wewould have to go on the back
porch and howl at the moon.
And so just a very.

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Different upbringing that wouldn't beat all Jesus centered in her house.
And then when we were with my dad andstepmom at his house on those weekends.
We grew up Methodist, which is a littlebit more liturgical of a denomination.
so very involved at church at mydad's house, but it was, more reserved
around church events than maybe apersonal relationship with Jesus.

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And, that all changed in high school.
I have a brother who'stwo years older than me.
His name's Neil Smith, and he'salways been my best friend.
And he became a Christian because ayouth intern reached out to him, so
that We had been going through a tonof stuff in our family and reached
out and shared the gospel with him.
And my brother became a Christian andfor this, this was just before his

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senior year, and he was like, I can'tleave Becky and not knowing what's true.
And to him for a year, he was Jesus to me.
He loved me when I did.
The most horrible life choices, not thingsto him and didn't judge me as I had felt
judged by so many Christians around me.
And so I became a Christian at 16.

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That's when things really changed for me.
and it was all new because I wasnot raised in a Christian home.
I didn't know any of those things.
And, and that's where my relationshipwith God really took off.
And it felt very much like a saddlePaul moment for me of, I felt saved
by God, I felt rescued by God.
And I was just blown away by him andhis word, completely captivated by

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his word and the truth within it.
And I ended up going to TexasA& M University for college.
And there's such a strongChristian community base there.
At least there was when I was there.
And, It was a strong time of discipleship.
And that's when I knew reallyfelt confirmed that God wanted to
use me in some capacity ministry.
I just didn't know what that looked like.

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and so it was just like arollercoaster of ups and downs.
I ended up going into publicrelations and adapt and leaving
that to go work at a church.
And that led to more teaching and writing.
And here I am today.
So the journey of following God wasnot something that was innate at birth.
It was a journey of trusting himand him being my safest place.

And I saw somewhere that not too long before that 16
year old, where you, where you metJesus, that you, you had a little
prison situation, a rap sheet here.
So let's, let's getboth sides of the story.
So you gotta, you gotta tell just a brief,

I mean, I did say that I
didn't leave a very

you're, so you're tough.
It's tough, Becky.
It's like prison, Becky.
Yeah.

I may have a hopping book, but I've been incarcerated.
not, I, Yes, my brother and I, we'vealways been close in, in our pre Jesus
days, we, teamed up in shopliftingand eventually got busted for that.
And so that was a good wake upmoment for both of us in many ways,
not a spiritual wake up, but a.

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Stop hiding and covering in these areas.
And, yeah, so that's, it's everybody.
My brother does a lotof ministry work too.
So it's everybody's favorite funfact of, did you know Nils and
Becky had been arrested before?
yeah,

So what I hear when I hear that is I hear entrepreneur.

yeah.
We've always started thingstogether and now they're legal
things, which is progress, right?
Progress.

Yeah.
So that's good.
so it, it sounds as if you've alwayshad an, I hate to mention something
that your mother may have said, butan energy to excel and succeed and
to, that when you stepped into things,you would move into a leadership.
Type position, or at least a, oryou're going to lead and do things.

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Is that, is that correct assessment?

Totally fair.
Totally fair to say.

Yeah.
And is that been a drivethat you've had all along?
Or is it something I'll ask it this way.
Is it something that you're trying toprove or I'll use a word that's in your
new book, strive for to gain acceptancebecause I, and I'll bring this up
and then I'll let you respond to it.

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My wife.
Came from what we would call a brokenhome her parents And she has identified
That she has a performance mindsetthat is related to And and I don't
think this is just a female thing, but

Mm hmm.

She believes if she achieves and accomplishes enough Then the people
around her and even god at times willbe happy and things will be okay so You

I would say for me, that's not the case.
My husband actually is very much that way.
for me, I, I think maybe it'smore of a like hard knock life.
You, you just have to do it right.
Like you make it happen.
and No.
Yeah.
What actually feels very, I don't knowif aversive is the right word, but the

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achievement in the process of havingthings more public as opposed to a
prep, like private ministry or justserving the people within my community,
the aversion I have is I don't wantit to be construed as achieving.
Which is I think a difference formen and women and many capacities of
there is this, I don't want to comeacross like I'm trying to be something

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and that it's not the bent for it.
For me, it's, I reallywant to see women freed.
And right now I see somany women shackled.
And so do I want to havebooks that are bestsellers?
Do I want to be able to reach Thousands ofmillions of people on podcast and social.

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for sure I do, because each numberrepresents a life that could be changed,
but I wouldn't say that the achievement,I have other events for sure, but I
wouldn't say the achievement is a personalgoal for me other than the fact that it
means we made a significant impact here.

And one of the words that's in your book
title is this word purposeful.
And I, I think it's a word thatit's really become integrated
into our modern culture.
And I actually think it'scausing a lot of good.

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And a lot of challenges because a lot ofpeople are, I need to find my purpose.
I need to find my purpose.
Whereas I'm, I'm of the age.
I remember talking to my grandfatherand if I were to ask him what his
purpose in life was, he would look atme like, what are you talking about?
I get up every day.

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I go to work, I come home,I make enough money to, put
biscuits and gravy on the table.
And it is a little bit ofour modern day reality.
But the, the, the question I've gotrelated to this, and this is probably
a deeper question that could, I don'tthink we're going to go into a tailspin,
but I think you brought it up earlier.

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You said there's the way the world looksat things and in their church world,

Yeah.

what is the church world doing to cause this
issue that we're talking about?
And let me just throw a fewthings out and then you could
just pick whatever you want.
We've got the whole, I won't even gointo this because I'm not agreeing
with, the world's coming to an end and,and we need to do everything we can.

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Don't get me started on in time stuff.
Please don't get me started.
So please don't go down that road.
and then we've also got this,you need to make an impact.
You've been saved and youneed to make an impact.
And then we've also got this, but you'rea woman, you, you've got a role within
what we call the Orthodox or traditionalchurch and you, you can do certain

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things, but you can't do certain things.
And so have I, have I given youenough hot buttons where you
could take this and run with it?

sure.
The, the whole purpose, I would saythis is likely for men and women that
our culture and you're right, wherelike the generations before us wouldn't
have felt the same pressure of purposebecause you just did your thing, right?
You weren't as concerned and Iwould think media has done a lot
to expose us to those things.

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And so that's where there's thisunattainable, the great purpose, right?
That that we're nevergoing to fully reach.
And I do talk about it in the book that.
It's not like the destination, Oh,now I know my purpose and now I've
reached my purpose and that's it.
You've won the game of life.
It's not, it's not like that.

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Purpose is your purpose is ever evolving.
It's shifting, it's changing.
It's the purpose is the journey with God.
And Like you, and we see thatall throughout scripture, David,
I'm actually reading throughthe life of David right now.
And David was told when he was very young,your purpose is you're going to, you're
anointed to be the next king of Israel.

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But he still then was a smalllittle warrior who then had
the courage to fight Goliath.
But then it was decades of himhiding and fighting and hiding and
fighting and hiding and fighting.
And if you were to look at his.
Life journey, it would be, you wouldsay he hadn't lived his purpose because

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his purpose was to be king, a manafter God's own heart, but the, he
showed himself as a man after God'sown heart through the hiding and the
fighting and the hiding and the fightingbefore he ever lived in a palace.
so that would be my, my responseto the whole greater purpose.
For women specifically when it comesto our place in the church, it, it's

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complicated because of the pressurethat's put within us to be a certain way.
And I would say the greatest purposethe church tells us as women is
your greatest purpose is that asmom and wife and you have no greater
calling than out of your family.
And Tim, this is where maybe we would,we'll get into debate, we'll see

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where we, where we both land on this.
and for sure where people.
Listening may, may have more questionsor, discussion items and DMS and comments.
But I just don't see thatin scripture anywhere.
I don't see that scripture says, woman,your greatest calling and purpose
in life is to be a wife and a mom.

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Because what about all thosepeople who aren't married?
What about all those people who can'thave children or don't have children?
Our greatest, my greatest purpose.
I have three girls whoI love with everything.
Like I would literally kill for them.
Probably not.
Maybe we don't post that part, butlike I, I would give anything for them.
And same for Chris.

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However, they are not my greatest calling.
And it's very important for me thatthey see that they're not, they are
so intrinsically important to me,but they are not my greatest calling.
My greatest calling is to God.
And so when I have that purpose,my purpose is to love God,
to know God, to follow God.

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That means that I can say, youknow what girls, this is a really
busy season for me right now.
So for the next couple of weeks, Ican't be there to tuck you in at night.
Or my oldest, I was selected to gochaperone her field trip, but it's
the same day my boat comes out.
And I can say, I know I've never misseda field trip, but this year I have to,

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because sometimes my greatest purposeof that day isn't to be their mom.
It's I have women that I need to speak to.
does that answer your question alittle bit when it comes to purpose?
Are we
still friends, Tim?

It no, no, it does.
I'm going to twist it a little bithere because we've got a few minutes.
I'm going to twist.
I am coming to believe that we have takenthe family values roles in the house.
People can do this.
People can't do this way out ofcontext from the, what we'll call first

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century Authors that wrote, in the,in the period that they were writing
and we've attempted to adopt them.
I actually will tell somebody,listen, be careful going down the
biblical family values route becauseyou brought up David earlier.

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I don't think anyone wants to really usethe model of David for family values.
And, and things like that.
I don't want to get off on that, but

Right.

so I, I do want to, I do want to point blank, ask this question.
Is it okay for women tobe in ministry roles?

To be in ministry roles within the church?
yeah.
They were always in ministry roles.
Now, certain denominations would sayit's not okay, and certain people holding
certain theological stances would say,no, women are to shut their mouth.
Women aren't to teach men.
But when we look at the full story of God,when we look at how Jesus consistently

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elevated women throughout scripture, whenwe look at their roles and positions all
throughout, since the beginning of time,now the only limitations I see of women
in scripture were those of the culture.
And so when we look at the cultureof scripture and see, Oh, maybe
women just couldn't do that because.

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They weren't right.
so you referenced David.
David was allowed tohave thousands of wives.
We would say today,that's probably not okay.
But culturally, this is oneelement we can't understand about
David, but culturally there, hewasn't breaking a law of God.
It's just weird.
I would say the same for women,not having prominence and position.

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I mean, women in America have justbeen able to vote for a hundred years.
So when we talk about women not havingplace in position, I think a lot of
that's rooted in, it wasn't until 30years ago that women really even started
to be in leadership in the world, peoplewho don't even hold Christian values.
And so I would say we're coming along,but we're coming along way too slow

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when it comes to what women can do.
And we're handicapped by verses thathave been interpreted by some men,
not all men, And then preach from thestage because that's all that's been
allowed to communicate the truth.

And you brought up something earlier, you mentioned your daughters
and you mentioned missing a field trip.
And truthfully, listen,there'll be other field trips,

Yeah.

but.
I'll mention this and you can respondto it if you'd like part of training
up our children, which is scriptural.
We are to train them up is, isnot to be with them all the time.
I mean, in my opinion,this is my parenting style.
My wife would.
Maybe say some things similar, but partof our role, I think the biggest part of

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that role is pointing them up and pointingthem to the relationship with the father.
And I think one of the thingsthat we do is provide an
example of what it looks like.
And truthfully, You being a successful,woman and the, the mother of three
daughters isn't showing them the pathof what they can do more powerful than

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saying, okay, and listen, there's, I thinkpeople need to go where they're called.
I think people need to gowhere their assignment is.
And, and, listen, there's probablytimes where you would say, I
think we even rescheduled once.
I don't know if what was going on,but it's like, It's Hey, listen, one
of my daughters needs something, Tim,we're going to talk on another day.
And that's cool.
I don't know if that was the caseor not, but anyway, you want to say

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anything about that as, and thatis the model that one provides for
their children and their family.

Yes.
That's yes.
And we did reschedule my, my oldestdaughter had to get, braces on her
bottom teeth and I knew she would bein so much pain and would need me.
And so I reached out to you andyour team to see, is there any
way that we can move this around?
So that's an example of, yes, it, itgoes both ways on the compromise for
between mom and worker and all of that.

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But what I always say for mydaughters is, and it's unique
because I'm raising girls, right?
So this context of how women arepositioned within church culture,
Christian culture, I see it not justfor myself, but I see what do I want
to be important for my children inAnd I've said that so many times to
friends of I just don't want to raisegirls who just raise kids, who just

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raise kids, who just raise kids.
Because what, what is thatcycle teaches nothing.
And it is actually very similarto the culture of Bible times.
So I can get why it's been taught inthe church, because that was women
only, like their job was to go collectwater, to make meals, to entertain

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the guests and to raise the children.
So it's actually very biblicalroles for women, but our culture
has changed significantly.
And me, how can I show mygirls, okay, how do we listen
to the voice of God within us?
How do we take leaps of faithtowards the Holy Spirit to see
what he might be leading us to do?

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How do we make mistakes?
How do we try things?
How do we fail at things?
And in that you can still make sureyour kids feel really seen and loved.
And in that you can still have.
And marriage that stands the test of timeand has a really good seasons and you
fight through the really hard seasons.
You can still be involved inand serve your church community.

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You can still have really great friendswho show up for you when you need it
and you show up for when they need it.
so that the whole.
The holistic approach is so muchbetter and so much richer than just
saying, all right, you're goingto be great little mamas one day.
And that's not a bad thing tosay, but it's a bad thing to

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say when it's the only thing.

And I think it speaks so much to a word that I really
loathe, and that is tradition.
And listen, let's don't, let's, Don'tmake light of the fact that I'm a guy
that has basically been homeless fornow going on 12, 12 years, my wife

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and I've been traveling the world,went to Bible school for a minute
or two, and then jumped in an RV.
And so we're now over our five yearanniversary of we don't have a home.
We don't have stuff.
We don't adhere to that.
So I, I love the thought of that.
And it goes back to, I believe, It'shuge that people need to be seeking
the kingdom of God and they need tofind their assignment in God's kingdom.

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And so the, the path thatyou're moving along is cool.
There is, there's a book and a groupthat I think you started a few years
back called is it sacred holidays?
Did I get that right?
All right.
All right.
The reason I love this topic, and Iwant to get to talking about your new
book here as we wrap up, but the reasonI love this topic is that I think that

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our culture, society, church world,all of that has really messed up.
And I'll even say it idolizedholidays, dates, Birthdays, my
wife's birthday is coming up.
I might have something thrown tome from the back of the RV here,
but we just making them, madethem a bigger deal than possible.
I don't, that's what you talk aboutthere, but talk a little bit about

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what you did with sacred holidays.
And then we're going to moveinto talking about, but God can.

Yes.
So I know eight or so years ago,I saw I had younger kids then.
And I just saw that there was sojust like what you said, holidays
are made into this huge thing, butthey are also so commercialized now.
And I just, I didn'twant to raise my kids.
I love holidays.
I love celebration.
Obviously all the color yousee is I, I like fun that funds

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an important value for me.
so I like the celebrations.
But I also felt lost in them and I wasn'tsure how to do a lot of them, especially
like those surrounding, Thanksgiving,Christmas, Easter, and Halloween.
what does this look likefor us as Christians to
celebrate all of these things?
And.

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so that had me, I ended up doing someAdvent studies, some Lent studies, and
then Lifeway had reached out about doinga whole book over all the holidays.
So that's a great resource guidebookfor we talk about all the things.
How do you have less chaos andmore Jesus in your holiday moments?
and when I released that book fiveyears ago, It's interesting because

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it, it felt I guess we talk aboutleadership and choices and whenever
that had come out, it did really well.
And I also felt like this season'sdone and I, I shut down the ministry.
And even though I was like a year outof the book being released, Things
were going unbelievably well and I feltlike it was just time for whatever was

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next, but I didn't know what that was.
so that's where Tim, I was like,okay, we're going to shut the door
on this ministry and just see.
And I closed everything downin December and, three months
later, COVID took over our world.
And because I had closed things down,I had the capacity to just say to God,

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I have this white space now, Lord, howdo you, how can I help your people?
How can I help you?
And as we were all in the midstof this really hard, impossible
season of our lives, I was talkingto friends who were just exhausted.
Like we were all thrown into homeschoolingand none of us playing to homeschool.
And, we were all juststuck at home constantly.

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But then I would talk to colleagues ofmine who were speakers and teachers and.
Everybody was, all theirevents had been canceled.
And for some of them, that wasincome that they relied on.
It was also giftings that theyloved using and could it now.
and then I would talk to ministryleaders, women's pastors and other
pastors, and they were like, wedon't know how to reach our people.

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And so that's where I reached out tomy brother, my partner in actual crime.
and just said, because he's, hissuperpower is helping ministries
maximize their impact online.
And so I said, bro, I.
All my retreats have been canceled.
What if we, can we move a retreat online?
Like I wouldn't even know how to do that.
beyond a few zoom sessions, I'dnot done much on Facebook lives.

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And so we decided let's, let's do thisretreat and let's do an online women's
retreat that was literally the name ofit, Tim, like all my women's retreat.
com.
just simple, pure.
I texted all my friends who wereteachers asked if anybody would do it.
We started posting on social media.
And within a month, we had 50 teacherssay yes to do a session and over

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almost 10, 000 women sign up to do it.
And I share that storybecause it was so clear.
Sometimes God closes something that'sgood and we don't know why, but
I had this space then to do this.
And that's where things really beganto pivot out of the holiday focus for
me and into, okay, you have this lifecoach voice, you love teaching the Bible.

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How do we, how do we hone that?
How do we really focus in on that?
And so that's where things have reallytransitioned for me from, from doing
that event into, let's just focus onhelping women live exactly where they
are in the life, our life now, thankfullyfor all of us, four years later, we are
no longer COVID still exists, but ourlives are as normal as they'll ever be.

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Like

Yeah,

we're still not normal.
Totally.

going on.
And, and one of the things that weoften see, and I'm sure you see within
your Bible study, is that many peoplebelieve that Jesus would be like the,
the magic pill or the silver bullet.
I get saved and my lifejust works out perfectly.

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I think sometimes the churchPromotes that a little bit.
And it's led to this word we hear a lot.
And I think you bring it up in yourbook, this, this term called self
help, this whole thing that you cantake charge of anything that might be
wrong or bad or anything like that.

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And you can fix it, correct it,counsel it out, all of that.
That wasn't a negative on counseling.
It's the mindset.
To me, it seems that, but Godcan is a counter to self help.
Am I right about that?

That was the intention in writing it.
And as I was pitching it topublishers, it is, it is meant
to be not an attack against it.
Because truthfully, as a life coach,as someone who grew up with a mother
earth nature, I do see the value inall of those things that it's not
that it's just all wasted or stupid.

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It's that it's, it's hollow, right?
So there is.
Great value on the surface, but then whatis it like when life actually hits, right?
Like when kids are in a bad mood andeverybody's yelling at each other, when
diagnosis is hit, when relationshipsfail, when you feel alone, when bank
accounts don't balance, then what?

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Because our self help culture is allabout your mindset and doing this.
And at a certain point, you can'tkeep just fake it till you make it.
That's where we're strugglingas we're trying to do what the
self help world is teaching us.
And they're not bad principles.
But what the gospel says is on yourown you actually can't so stop trying

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to feel like you got this you cando anything Just make it happen.
The gospel message is on our own We can'tbut God can that's why he had to send
his son Jesus to live a perfect life onearth Show us the way and then die for our
sins so that we could all have new lifeFor us as Christians, we have to start

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acknowledging, listen, I can't do it all.
I say that to my girls allthe time, which is so contrary
to what they hear at school.
I'm sure I've I tell them you can'tdo it all and you can't be anything.
That's actually really good news.
That takes the pressure off of them.
And I've been saying, but you know what,with God, you can do the very thing

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he's called and equipped you to do.
So all those stories we hear aboutDavid killing Goliath, he can do
that because he had God behind him.
Our David being the youngest and thesmallest, but then becoming King, we can,
he was able to do that because God sawhim and chose him and called him out and
anointed him and then led him throughall the other things he had accomplished.

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So we too, in each of our weaknesses.
God can say, listen, I dohave a purpose for you.
I can do things through you eventhough you are so weak on your own.
You're supposed to be, you're human,but I can do anything with you.
Would you let me, would you let me?

Hmm.
There's a word.
I think it's striving.
Do you have that?
How to stop striving.
Boy, I'm seeing this quite a bit.
And I had this in a conversation thatwas last week that the listener can go
back and check out with, with a malethat would be in a very Alan Morris,

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very successful role that he hit awall at 47 and realized he was trying
to do too much for too many people.
His bio is awesome,all this kind of stuff.
And he had, he got brokendown and, and, and had to.
Change things.
Talk about that word, striving, and I'lljust throw one more thing in with it.

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To me, it seems as if today, becauseI'm of the age now, I'm straddling
a couple of generations here.
I'm the tail end of baby boomers.
I'm 60 years old and I couldremember pre internet, pre 24 7 news.
And I can tell you, we had a couple ofthings going on, but we did not have as
much going on as we've got going on now.
It seems like Becky, we'retrying to do too much.

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We're striving and trying to provesomething to either God or everybody else.
So anyway, that's my softballfor you to talk about striving.
How do we stop striving?

It's hard to say stop striving because so many of
the things we're striving to doare things that we have to do.
So it's not something that, okay, Ilistened to this podcast and Becky and
Tim, they shared so many great ideas.
I tomorrow's my day.
I'm no longer striving.
This is the long game again, right?
This is the long game again.

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And even last year, it's really funny.
As I was editing my book, I was veryconvicted and there were things in it that
we realized as I was going through it,There's still areas I'm striving, right?
Cause it's constantly aprocess and a journey.
And there's ways we'retraining our girls to strive.
So for example, at the time of writingit, all three of my girls were competitive

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dancers and Tim, they were great at it.
so good.
And the dance studio was our family andall of that, but it took a lot of money,
a lot of time to be there and to do that.
And we realized as afamily, This is our weight.
Like we are striving and we weretraining our girls to strive.

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And I'm not saying competitivesports are bad for other people.
I think all of us have to evaluate yearto year, but we were also in the middle
of a season when we felt that conviction.
So we couldn't quit.
Like we were still in it.
And, but we had made the decision.
We weren't going to do it.
But then at the last minute,our girls were like devastated.
This was their family.
This was all they knew.

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And so we went aheadand let them audition.
Of course they made itand we were stuck again.
And, three weeks after that,before they did casting the
studio, we had to tell that we'vefelt that conviction of the Lord.
this is a year we'reback in this for a year.
And so we pulled out and wesaid, listen, I know we are,
yes, we want our yes to be, yes.
We want our commitments to bestrong, but at the end of the day,

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this is not best for our family.
And it was a hard transition for thembecause this was their friendship.
This is how they found a lot of work.
It was, gave them a lot of energy.
It took a lot of energy and,it was a change, but our family
is so much freer because of it.
So much for your, because of it.
So that's, that would be onepractical example that I would

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say, stop striving, isn't somethingthat you can do overnight, right?
That was a journey.
And it also, it also wasn't easy at first.
It was like, Oh no, nowwe've made a mistake.
And we also can't change our mind foranother year, Once we got out of it.
So I would just say, take it to the Lordand ask him, where am I striving that
maybe I can calm down and like for yourdaughter, it sounds like for her, even

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being on Instagram was something thatincreased that drive to be something she
wasn't, which would have been striving.
And so trust the spirit within you.
We are given this helper.
Ask the Holy Spirit to show youwhere am I striving and then have
faith enough to try stopping.
And it's as simple as bit right.
We talk about that in the book,taking baby steps and leaps of faith.

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Okay.
What's a very practicalbaby step that you can take.
And your daughter tookInstagram off her phone.
Genius.
Now, can she still putit back on her phone?
Could she log on from her computer?
For sure.
But that's a baby step she took tonot strive on Instagram anymore.

The thing that I love about what you just said, and I'm going
to ask how it's played out with thatpractical thing with your daughters.
We had, we had our daughter and our son,and one of the, I don't even know if it
was a rule, but just principles of ourfamily is that you can only have one,
maybe one and a half extracurricularactivities, outside of schooling and we

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homeschooled most of the time, but therewere times that our children went in and
out of a private school or public school.
And I think that helped us.
But our daughter, very similarto your daughter's, she started
doing ballet at a very young ageand was really, really good at it.
And at a teenage age, was looking at apre pro program with the Atlanta Ballet.

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Boy, I'm telling you what, ifyou want to see my head spin and
green stuff come out of my mouth,just start the nutcracker music.
I, oh my goodness gracious, I sawthe nutcracker more than I want.
Anyway, sorry, I digress.

a, it's a weird, it's a weird ballet for sure.

It is, and you know what happened with us?
It was very similar.
We were like discussing it as a family.
We felt like that season was over, but wedidn't want to be bad stewards as parents.
And she went on a trip.
As an almost pre pro with thepros, I think Asheville, North
Carolina, this was Atlanta ballet.

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And you know what?
When she came back, we'vebeen praying about it.
We've been saying, Lord, whatdo we need to do about this?
It doesn't feel right.
She came back and she says,I'm finished with ballet.
And we said, why?
She goes, I don't want tokeep going down that path.
I don't want the next steps of themdieting and they're smoking to keep their
weight off and they're compromising andtheir bodies are very, and you know what

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we said, how will you praise the Lord?
So part of it is.
But God can trusting in God.
So has everything been okay withthe girls with that practical
decision that's been made?

I would say at first it wasn't okay.
Like at first they were very alone.
They They were no longer withtheir friends and not even cause
their friends left them out.
It's because their friends were stillat the studio 20 hours a week and
they just practically weren't there.
and they were like, they were boredagain, which I loved because I was
like, my kids have not been bored inyears and they wrestled with what,

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what, what does boredom look like?
How are we bored?
And, but now what I.
Eight months later was zero.
They have zero, we had zeroregrets pretty early on.
And I would say they are all on board withit now and thriving in different ways.
My oldest is just made the cheer team ather school and she made it easily because

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of the training she'd had in dance.
She had so many of those skills andnow she has all these friends at
school, which she didn't have timeto have friends at school before,
because she left early for dancing.
Her bestest life friendswere at the studio.
my middle daughter has struggled themost as a fifth grader because she can't,
there's not activities at school yet.
but even that I've seen a lackof drama in her life and her.

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Figuring out who she isand making new friendships.
And, there's so much personalgrowth she has had that she
won't be able to appreciate yet.
But I think in the next couple ofyears, she will be very grateful for.
And then my youngest man, it'sbeen really fun just to see her be
like a normal elementary school kidwho has play dates after school.

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She's.
She, you would love her too, becauseshe is just like a little entrepreneur.
She has started her and one of her bestfriends have been selling bracelets
on the curb of our neighborhood.
Like that at the entrance of ourneighborhood that they would make
and the business slowed down.
So they've started, we went toCostco and now they have a snack
shop and they sell their bracelets.

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They made 38 on their first day atthe curb and only spent 28 at Costco.
So like they're already.
She would have never donethat had she been at the dance
studio five hours that day.
And so there are things like that,that we're seeing and that they're
starting to see of, okay, this wasa win, but it was hard at first.

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And for all of us changing, going fromjust staying on that hamster wheel,
but then saying, I'm going to stop thestriving and God, I'm going to go to
you and I'm going to live purposefully.
And I'm going to find abundance, which isso different than what America teaches.
When we do that, when we say yesto God in those capacities, while
it takes time, there is thisfruitfulness that comes from it.

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That's the abundance, right?
So yes, she made 38, but what she got outof that was she was rejected by a hundred
cars that drove by and didn't stop.
And she kept cheering andtrying to flag cars down.
There were, so there's all thesethings she's learned that were wins.
And what I've learned is.
Man, trust the spirit in you.

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I doubted it at first, whichis why I let them try out.
And I learned, no, Becky, when yousend something, you can listen to
that spirit, the spirit within youand trust it because it's right.
It's good.
And it will be okay.
Even if it's going to be hard.

Tim Winders (01:01:36):
The cool thing about that is, is I believe I know I've
been guilty of this, that I couldget so busy doing quote unquote good
things that there's no room for God.
To jump in.
I love the selling bracelet story.
We're in an RV resort nearSedona, Arizona right now.
And I go out and I'll listen to podcasts.
I might've been even listening to yoursand I'm doing my walking and I go by this

(01:01:58):
little table beside an RV and there arethree girls sitting there and I don't.
My wife doesn't let me have cashbecause of situations just like this.
And, and so I look at them andthey've got bracelets and some
things that they've made, and Idon't even know what a lot of it is.
And so I come hustling back to the RVand I said, glory, glory, glory, get some

(01:02:20):
cash, we got to go out because there'ssome girls up here selling some stuff
and I could tell they weren't getting alot of traffic here within the RV resort.
There's only 400 spots here.
So we went back up there and, and I toldthe girls I may come back with my wife.
And when they saw me come in, I couldtell they were a little bit excited.
And then we went up there and mywife only had twenties and she

(01:02:41):
was just looking and all of that.
And if it were to have been me,I would have given them a 20 and
gotten a couple of bracelets.
But she says, Hey, we needto go up to the office.
We're going to get changed.
And when we turned the corner,coming back from the office,
they were doing the dance.
They were like going here, they come.
And It's you know what,man, I love that stuff.
I love that, that your girl's got that.
That's valuable training them upin the way that they should go.

(01:03:06):
Becky, but God can this book.
I'm going to allow you at some timehere, speak directly to whoever
this book is for and let them knowthat they need to get the book.
And then you could tellwhere they could find it.
But first let, let the personknow who should get it.
Okay.
You know who they are.

Becky Kiser (01:03:26):
Yeah.
For anyone who is listening, ifyou are a female, I would say if
you've resonated with anythingthat we've talked about today, if
you've resonated with the fact that.
You feel like you're striving.
You're on that hamster wheel.
You don't know what your purpose is.
You feel overwhelmed by the pressures,both within culture and within the church.
And you need like that oxygenmask that the plane talks about,

(01:03:49):
putting it on yourself so thatyou can breathe free again.
But God can is for you.
It's very, very practical whereI coach you through each chapter.
There's activities, there's questionsto process, there's challenges.
It's meant to feel like a coachingsession where you have someone really
guiding you through it for the menlistening, which I know there's more

(01:04:09):
men likely, hopefully still listeningthan women even is, I would say for
you, this is, you're probably notgoing to grab this hot pink book.
And I, I would say that's probablya smart decision, but you know what
you have women in your life who wantto be seen, who want to be heard.
And so what a beautiful gift it wouldbe for you to buy this and then attach

(01:04:34):
a card to it that says, I see you.
I see how hard you'reworking in your area of life.
And I, I want to let youknow, I believe in you.
I know you feel overwhelmed by motherhood,but God can still use you in this moment.
Or I know you feel lonely in thisnew emptiness or season of your life,
but God still has a purpose for you.

(01:04:54):
So I would challenge every manlistening to grab a copy of this.
On whatever is your preferred place topurchase products from and send it to
all the significant women in your lifeand sit and let speak that affirmation
over them that they need to hear.
you asked where you can purchasethis anywhere you buy books
online, the book is sold.

(01:05:15):
So if you shop at Amazon or target orBarnes and Noble or Walmart, whatever.
com the book is there.
So buy it.
For yourself, send it to your friends.
and then you can go to Becky Kaiser.
com.
I have a page dedicated to the bookthat has all kinds of free resources
to download, to go along with it.

(01:05:35):
I'll be doing some bonus teaching there,have some extra downloadables for people.
And then I hang out the moston Instagram, which we've
talked about quite a bit today.
And I'm at Becky Kaiser K I S E R.
And you'll find links to my site andthe book and all of that on the page.
And that would be the best placefor us to connect in the DMs and
the comments on posts that I have.

Excellent.
And at the time this episode isreleasing, it's the book is released
and you, unfortunately men, you havemissed mother's day, but it would have
been a great mother's day gift to give.
So be thinking about that.
Don't let any of the other

You know what women like even more than a mother's day gift.
We like a just because gift.
So instead of just giving it toher on a day that you're supposed
to give her something, just get itfor her just cause you love her.

good sales there, especially for someone like me.
wife who her love language is gifts.
She let not G I F S but G I FT S she loves getting gifts.
So thank you, Becky.
What a great conversation.
We could continue speaking, but we'reseek go create those three words.
Choose one.

(01:06:49):
Just don't ever think it,that means more to you.
Seek, go or create.
My last question, whichone do you choose and why?

I'm going to go with create.
Typically I'm a goer, butI'm going to go with create.
Cause right now I'm in a verycreative space of we're doing a lot
of updates and changes to our house.
So I'm getting to get my handsdirty with paints and yard work.
And, and then also with ministry andbusiness and my next writing projects,
just getting to really create.

(01:07:18):
Open handedly go to the Lordand ask what's next for this.
So I feel very in a creativemind space right now.

Very good.
Create.
Love it.
Love it.
Love it.
Becky.
Thanks so much for this conversation.
I highly encourage anyonelistening to get, but God.
Can, and I love the subtitle,how to stop striving and live
purposefully and abundantly.
I love that.
So make sure you check that out.

(01:07:47):
Jump over to hearers and doers.
Also, if you're on a podcastplatform right now, jump over there
and listen in with the with allthat Becky's got going over there.
Great resource there also, unlike herewhere we've got 60 plus minute episodes.
She's got a few that are seven and10 and 11 minutes long, which you
could get a number of those in whenyou're out walking for an hour.

(01:08:07):
So I have, I appreciate thatsomeone in the world can be brief
and to the point, but anyway.
I appreciate you listeningin here at SeatGo Create.
We've got new episodes on YouTube and onall your podcast platforms every Monday.
I appreciate you greatly listening insharing and commenting and also rating
and reviewing us until next time continuebeing all that you were created to be.

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