August 11, 2025 • 33 mins
What if everything you’ve heard about the “end times” is based on a misunderstanding—and the prophecies of Jesus, Paul, and John were actually fulfilled long ago? In this thought-provoking episode of Seek Go Create, host Tim Winders challenges popular beliefs about Revelation, the rapture, and the end of the world, offering a fresh perspective rooted in history and scripture. If you’ve ever wrestled with fear or confusion about the Bible’s most controversial prophecies, tune in to discover how letting go of doom-and-gloom interpretations can open the door to living confidently in the Kingdom—right now.
"We are here expanding and building the kingdom of God, not waiting for an escape." - Tim Winders
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Reasons to Listen:
- Discover a Bold New Perspective: The episode challenges the traditional view of end times and offers a thought-provoking historical context that might radically shift how you read Revelation and New Testament prophecy.
- Find Freedom from Fear: If you've ever felt anxiety or confusion about the future, you'll learn how reframing "end times" prophecies can replace dread with confidence and purpose for living in the kingdom now.
- Uncover Hidden Layers in Scripture: Tim explores how understanding the first-century audience and their context can unlock fresh meaning in the Bible—potentially changing the way you see your own faith journey.
Key Lessons:
- The “End Times” Already Happened - Tim challenges the common belief that the end times prophecies in the New Testament refer to our future. Instead, he presents compelling evidence that these prophecies referred to events that occurred within a generation of Jesus’ life, specifically culminating in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in A.D. 70.
- Fear-Based End Times Teachings Are Misguided - A lot of spiritual panic and fear in modern Christianity is rooted in sensationalized teachings and media around rapture and apocalypse. Tim argues that much of this stems from a misunderstanding of scripture and a misapplication of historical context.
- Understanding Audience and Context Matters - The messages found in the New Testament were directed to audiences living at that time. Misreading those messages as if they were written directly for us today distorts the original meaning and intent, leading to confusion about the Bible’s message.
- We Now Live in God’s Kingdom - According to Tim, the destruction of the temple marked the end of the Old Covenant and the full arrival of the New Covenant. Christians are called to operate as citizens in God’s kingdom now, focusing on restoration, presence, and partnership with Christ rather than survival or escapism.
- The Bible’s Message Is Hope, Not Doom - The narrative of scripture is ultimately about God’s fulfillment, restoration, and the invitation to live abundantly in His kingdom. Rather than fearing a coming apocalypse, believers are encouraged to focus on expanding the kingdom and abiding in Christ here and now.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 Introduction: Rethinking the End Times
01:04 Controversial Conversations in Christianity
03:07 Debunking Modern Misconceptions
06:53 Historical Context of Biblical Prophecies
09:54 Revelation: Past Fulfillment and Future Hope
20:41 Living in the Kingdom of God Today
28:55 Personal Journey and Future Projects
33:01 Conclusion: Embracing the Kingdom
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What if the end times thatmany Christians are anxiously
waiting for already happened?
What if the prophecies of Jesus, Pauland John weren't about our future, but
about their present and their near future?
If you've lived with fear, confusion,or dread about Revelation and the end.
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This episode might change everything.
The purpose of this I'll be upfront,it's to reveal how understanding
the historical fulfillment of NewTestament prophecy shifts our posture
from fear to confidence, and allowsus to live fully in the kingdom.
Now welcome to Seat Go Create.
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This is Tim Winders, your host.
This is episode five of the season.
Why The Bible Doesn't Make Sense yet,and we've been rolling along with a
lot of cool topics and we are going toput maybe not a finish on it, but at
least an exclamation point on what we'vebeen talking about in this episode.
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And I'll go ahead and if I had the redlight and could start, you know, swirling
around with all types of things, thisis something that in Christian world, in
church world is extremely controversial.
Probably more controversialthan just about.
Anything.
I found out about a year or so backwhen I interviewed someone that talked
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about end times, antichrist, raptureand those kind of things, and I just
thought we were having a conversation.
Well, if you go back and read thosecomments, some of the comments from I.
Well, we'll call 'em Christians aresome of the most vile, ugly, hate-filled
comments that you will ever see.
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Don't mess with people'srapture and don't mess with.
Somebody's gonna come and takeme away from all this mess.
But I'm guessing that if some folks aregonna be listening to this and you feel
really strongly that we're gonna beraptured outta here and there's gonna
be an escape hatch to break away pretribulation and avoid the antichrist and
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Israel's being reestablished and all that,we're about to, kind of shake that up.
But hang with me.
Because we could walk through itwith scripture and talk about how it
fits with the Bible, and that's oneof the reasons we've been talking
about how the Bible, the story of theBible, the narrative, if so important.
Because if you pull out some of thesescriptures and try to make it fit with
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news items or headlines that we seetoday, you know, you can start trying
to convince people that maybe, maybe.
The end times that Jesus prophesiedwhat happened within a, within a
generation 40 years of, of his death,maybe you could start convincing people.
If you twist the scripturesaround that it still.
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Fulfilling or about tohappen 2000 years later.
That's not the case though.
Let's talk about it.
Let's break it down and let's look atthe story of the Bible that we've been
looking at for the last four episodes.
There is, in modern Christianity, andmaybe it's mostly in our country of
America, but probably in the first worldI've noticed it in other countries,
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there's this lingering anxiety in modernChristianity about the end of the world.
Many believers live in fear that there'sgonna be this thing of rapture and what
if I'm raptured out, or what if I'm not?
And there's a tribulation, there'santichrist, all of those things.
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Those things that we've been discussingthat many people have been saying,
and I believed a lot of this upuntil recently, those things are
actually not scriptural and they'renot part of the biblical story.
They were part of a story thatoccurred 2000 years ago, and they
may still have some relevance, butthey are not part of some future.
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I am more convinced of that than Iever have been, and for many years.
I just wanted to avoid the topic and I'lltalk more about that in just a moment.
This has been fueled bysensationalism movies.
I. And out of context teaching.
I still remember, I've mentioned thisbefore in some episodes that on my
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parents' shelf when I was growing up,and we didn't go to church that much.
We were not real church going people.
We grew up in the deep south, so we had alot of religion around us, but not a lot
of, I guess, spiritual depth necessarily.
But we had the book.
The late Great Planet Earth, that wasone of the biggest sellers around, and
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it basically predicted that the worldwould end in 19 88, 40 years after the
Nation of Israel was established in 1948.
Well, here we are in 2025and he wrote an updated book.
That said, it was actually a fewyears later and then a few years
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later and a few years later.
Bottom line is he has sold a boatloadof books predicting that the end is
near and none of them have come true.
In the nineties.
I read a bunch of fiction books.
That were the left behind series that werewritten as fiction, but they were written
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with scriptural foundation air quotesfor those that might be listening in.
And I read them and theywere great stories, and they
had some scripture in 'em.
But truthfully, they twisted scripture andthey told a story that wasn't accurate.
And a lot of people believe that I did.
I mean, it was probablybaked into my theology.
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It was, I was a fairly newChristian and I was thinking, man,
this is some kind of stuff here.
And what that does is it creates kindof a spiritual panic, a doom that
things are gonna get bad or that they'realways getting worse when in actuality.
Most things are getting better,but we believe spiritually
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that they're getting worse.
And if we are people of Christianfaith and we have this thought that
we're going through life, that thingsare really getting worse when they're
actually in many ways getting better.
I'm in, I'm sitting here inan office in air conditioning.
I'm in Georgia.
It's hot outside, butI'm cool on the inside.
I've got cameras, lights,all this kind of stuff here.
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Things are getting better.
Are there some thingsthat don't look great?
Of course there are.
I'm not fooling myself.
there's still good and bad in the world.
There's evil, there'sexplanations for that.
But people are in a spiritual panicand it's rooted in misunderstanding.
And as we've been talking aboutin previous episodes of this
season, not understanding thefull narrative and the story of.
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What the Bible is all about.
The words of Jesus I think are what wereally need to go to to understand this.
They were urgent andthey were time sensitive.
In Matthew 24, Jesus said, this generationwill not pass before these events
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occur, and then went on to state some.
End of times language.
That was the end of times thatwould occur 40 years later.
A generation, by the way, withthe events that occurred in 80 70.
Now, I wanna say this, andI wanna say this strongly.
If you are one that says, Jesus reallydidn't mean 40 years, or that he
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really didn't mean a generation, or youstart parsing what a generation means.
Then in my opinion, you're messing withthe words of Jesus and you're belittling
the prophetic nature of what Jesus said.
You're gonna have to start doing thatwith a lot of other things he said,
and that is dangerous territory.
I truly believe that when Jesussaid, this generation will not pass.
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Jesus meant it and it was trueand it became true, and Jesus also
said it was in the same, what somecall the vet discourse that some
standing here will not taste death.
He was speaking to his apostles.
And one of those apostles that we believedid not taste death before 80 70 was John.
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and so the others did, they weremartyred, but he said that I believe that.
And historically we can back that up.
Jesus also said when you see Jerusalemsurrounded, and we've tried to take
that and talk about all these eventsoccurring in the 2010s in the 2020s.
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That occurred in 80 70.
It is historical.
It is a fact that the armies ofRome surrounded Jerusalem before
destroying Jerusalem and the temple.
And then it said, you willsee the son of man coming.
And that coming was the ending of theold covenant that occurred in 80 70.
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It was the day of the Lord.
These were real warnings to real people.
In the first century, not scaretactics for people that are of our
day that are combing the headlines.
Trying to find how these thingsthat were written in the first
century to audiences in the firstcentury, and it applied to them.
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It doesn't apply to us now.
we can learn things from it.
They mean things.
There's, there are things there thatwe can glean and gain from, but all
I'm saying is let's don't try to twistit and make it apply to things that
are going on today and make thingsup when it actually already happened.
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The New Testament writersoutside of Jesus also.
Echoed this immediacy in Acts two17, the statement in the last days.
In fact, if you do a search on, the endor last days, it is all throughout the New
Testament and in almost every situation,it is specifically being addressed to
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the audience that it was written to.
So think about this, ifsomeone came to your door.
And said, by the way, I want totell you some things about the
last days or the end or somethingthat's coming and it's coming soon.
and you found out, it wasthousands of years later.
That would make no sense.
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In fact, I believe it would belittlethe messages that were being written
and sent to the audience of that day.
So, also in one Corinthians 10 11,the end of the age has come upon us.
Not 2000 years later, the endof the ages come upon them.
Those people in Corinth that receivedthis letter in Hebrews in these last
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days, he had spoken to us by his son.
And then James five three.
James message.
You have Hoarded Wealth inthe last day speaking to them.
Then current present, it is the last hour.
That was something that John said inone John 2 18, 1 Peter four seven.
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The end of all things is at hand.
Therefore be serious andwatchful in your prayers.
I just think it's really arrogant ofus to really believe that all of those
things that were written to the audiencesof those days, it's arrogant of us to
pluck those things out and try to saythat that's what's going on today.
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I just had someone I interact with onFacebook that they were posting that the
end is near, obviously look at what'sgoing on, and they said something about.
you, you know, they, somethingfrom a headline that was going on.
and listen, there is afinal end that will occur.
We are moving towards a new Jerusalem.
That was at the very end ofRevelation, but it wasn't all
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of the events of Revelation thatwere the tribulation events.
Nope.
that already occurred.
That happened.
The fulfillment of all of those things.
In fact, I would even say the first1920 chapters of Revelation occurred.
In 80, 70 in or around 8770, the temple was destroyed.
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Jerusalem was judged, and thenation of Israel was devastated,
just as Moses warned his people.
That was all in Deuteronomy 28 through 30.
it said this is what wassaid in Deuteronomy 28.
Now it shall come to pass if youdiligently obey the voice of the Lord
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your God, to observe carefully all hiscommandments that the Lord your God
will set you high above all the nations.
But it goes on to say.
That if you do not obey the voice of theLord, there are cursings that will occur.
Now, being a guy that came fromProsperity Gospel roots, when I was
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first saved in a first early Christian,I really loved those blessings.
Boy, I tell you what, I hung outand spent time with those blessings.
And I think many people in FirstWorld Church, we do the same.
But one, one of the things that you haveto look at is what are those curses?
And if you look at those curses.
And you compare those with what occurredin the first 19 chapters of Revelation,
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then you'll see that that was thejudgment that was warned about in
Deuteronomy 28, some in 29 and 30, thatit occurred all the way in Revelation in
the, in the early parts of Revelation.
So it was warned that judgment came,the nation of Israel did not obey.
They were judged for that, and theywere also judged for not honoring
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and recognizing the Messiah.
When the Messiah came, Jesus wassent for Israel first to call
them to repentance, then for theGentiles and to bring judgment.
That judgment that we hear aboutin Deuteronomy 28 through 30.
And to continue drawing all things tohim, to God, after that period of time.
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And that was the purpose, not, not tojust kind of set the stage for some
future ending event that they discussedand talked about in Revelation.
And this was not an episode togo into all the gory details of
Revelation, but I did want to.
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Talk about kind of revelation as a warningand a warning for the people of that
day, not necessarily for the future.
In fact, the chapters that addressbeyond what happened in 80 70
are incredibly, incredibly, I,you know, They are optimistic.
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the Revelation 20 and 21 and 22 areextremely optimistic and talks of
there's no death There will be no chaos.
There will be no sickness,there will be no tears.
and that's where we're headed.
We're not headed towards that first partof Revelation that's already occurred.
That was just a warning to those people.
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It wasn't a cryptic roadmap for ourtime where we start trying to take
all these pieces and make them apply.
It was pastoral and prophetic,and it was full of symbols that
were known to first century.
Jews, and let me giveyou the perspective here.
There are Old Testament references inthe book of Revelation that the audience
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of that day would have understood.
Than we would ever understand.
I mean, it is full of Old Testamentreferences that in, in my opinion, is
probably written not in a direct format,but in somewhat of a code so that the
audience that received these letters fromJohn would know what he was talking about.
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And I just think about this for amoment, just put yourself in their shoes.
Let's just say that we're in thetimeframe of 80, 65, 64, 65, 66.
We believe that theApostle Paul was beheaded.
In Rome at around that time,somewhere in that timeframe.
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So think about today, if a prominentfigure, a world leader or a ministry
leader, someone that you knew, youfound out that they were beheaded for
their beliefs around that same time.
Peter was also, he was also martyred.
He was crucified.
He refused to be crucifiedlike Jesus Christ was crucified
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and was crucified upside down.
What if you got wordthat that was going on?
What if you were one of thesesmall groups, this, these groups
or ecclesias, these small churchesthat were sort of huddled together?
You had the Jewish structure that wascoming against you because they believed
you were heretics and did not understandthis Messiah that you believed in, and
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they were fairly violent themselves.
They're the ones that actually, Martyred.
James threw him off the temple, in fact.
and they were also the onesthat sent Paul to Rome.
And, that actually was howPaul was beheaded, was while
he was in Rome, but just.
Think about, put yourself in their shoes.
You're sitting there and you believethis Messiah, this Jesus, and maybe
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you are of a Jewish background.
Maybe you are a Gentile, but you believethis and you've got the Roman Empire.
That's coming against that belief systemand you've got the Nation of Israel, the
Jewish people that are coming against it.
You've got two forces squeezingyou and you've got a letter or
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something that comes from John.
I don't think that John's goingto be clear and say, by the way.
The Roman government is going toattack Jerusalem, and Jerusalem
is going to be destroyed.
I just don't see him saying it that way.
I believe he has to write in code.
He has to use numbers like 6, 6, 6 thatthey understood what it meant and he has
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to write in a way that isn't exactly.
Understood by all it's understood bypeople that knew the Old Testament, that
knew how to read some of those things andthen apply it to what was going on Then.
So when you receive that letter fromJohn, I. In AD 66 or 67, it gave you a
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warning of what was about to happen overthe next three and a half years leading up
to a 70 in the destruction of the temple.
It was pastoral, it was prophetic, itwas a warning, and it was full of symbols
that they knew in the first century.
It's one of the reasons whywe don't know it well, because
we haven't studied all that.
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And we try to make a lot of thingsup to try to make it fit our
world and it just doesn't fit.
It described persecutionof Rome, Rome's corruption.
That's another reason why he wouldn'tput it in a letter necessarily
and sign the bottom of it.
He needed to kind write it in, code it.
It described the coming endof the old Covenant SE system.
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The old covenant system would endwhen the temple was destroyed.
The temple is where sacrifices occurred.
Sacrifice was required in theold covenant, was also required
in the new covenant, but that.
Occurred with Jesus.
It was a one-time sacrifice thatwas all that needed to be done.
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But in the old covenant, they needed todo sacrifices constantly and systemically.
When the temple was destroyed,there was no more sacrifice.
With no more sacrifice, no more covenant.
The old covenant ended.
The only covenant remaining isthe new covenant, the Messiah
covenant, the covenant that welive and operate under today.
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John wrote to warn and he wrote itin Old Testament code for a reason.
It was really about victory.
Not doom.
That was the point.
Those who overcome.
Now what does that mean for us now?
Because some of you might begoing now, hold on a second.
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I've been operating andliving as if we're doomed.
The end is near and I am justhopeful that I've made the right
decision so that when people getplucked out of here and raptured
away before things get really bad.
I'll be okay, and I'm just lookingto punch my ticket to heaven.
That's not the story ofthe Bible by the way.
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That's not our goal, is topunch our ticket to heaven.
So what does that mean for me?
You might be asking yourself the question.
That's what I did, is I was going throughthis process Of clearing this paradigm
out, of getting this junk that I hadbelieved for so long that I realized
it was just baked into my mindset.
I was baked into the way I thought itwas baked, into the way I read the Bible.
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It was one of the reasonsthat I read it wrong.
It's why we've been talking aboutthat over the last few episodes.
I just read it wrong.
I understood things differentlywhen I was reading about what.
Peter said what Paul saidabout what John said.
I was trying to totally apply itto me instead of understanding the
audience that they wrote it to.
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If the judgment that Jesus foretoldalready happened, we are not
waiting for that judgment anymore.
There will be a final judgment.
I'm not saying that all thingsare the way they are going to be.
Final judgment, but it doesn'thave all of that other junk we've
been trying to incorporate into it.
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we are, we are movingtowards another Eden.
We're moving towards a new Jerusalem.
We are operating currently in thekingdom of God that Jesus brought,
and we're moving toward the.
Final time of being new Jerusalempeople, the sons and daughters of
God, not awaiting or hoping for someescape because things are so bad.
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But we are here expanding andbuilding the kingdom of God
while we are here on this earth.
God's presence is here.
His kingdom has come.
We have the authority to operate in that.
All we do is live it and shareit and experience it with others.
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We don't have to scare people withsomething bad that's gonna happen.
If something on this earth happens toremove us from the earth or remove us
from this realm before the new Jerusalemoccurs, We're good because we are still
in a realm that's moving towards newJerusalem, the new heaven and earth,
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the resurrected bodies that we will bein that are, that is what is told in
the last few chapters of Revelation.
The mission is not survival.
It's restoration.
It's being restored into God'skingdom, into his family, and
being sons and daughters of God.
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The Bible ends where it began,presence, peace, and a garden city.
It.
It really is.
The Eden that we see in Revelationis the new Jerusalem description
that we're moving towards.
It's the marriage that we hear about, themarriage of the lamb, the restoration.
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We live as kingdom citizens,co-laboring with Christ, as his
ambassadors here on this earth.
We have seen so many scriptures.
I mean, I've alreadymentioned Matthew 24 34.
This generation will not pass.
When you see Jerusalem surrounded,you will see the son of man coming.
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The dwelling place of God is with man.
He is with us.
He is in us.
The Bible.
Listen, let me just wrap up with this.
The Bible's not about fear.
It's about.
Fulfillment.
Is there a lot of scarystuff in the Bible?
Yeah, there absolutely is.
But the story, the narrative, thething that I've been talking about
is the good news, the gospel, thefulfillment of living in God's kingdom.
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Those of us that have accepted Christand are operating in living with Christ
and in Christ, we are fulfilling.
We are fulfilling.
The, the living in God's kingdom,it's not a countdown to destruction.
It's an invitation to live.
It's an invitation to life.
It's an invitation to expand his kingdom.
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While we are here, the whole season,this whole episode, all these five
episodes has been about helping you.
Move from confusion to context.
It's all about the journey thatI've been on moving from, you know,
what, what is, what is this bible?
What is this all about?
What are these scriptures?
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And I mean, listen, Ihad some stuff baked in.
I hung out in Bible school with alot of people that were good folks.
They were trying their best,but didn't really understand
the story, and I didn't either.
For whatever reason, the Lord'sled me on a journey the last few
years to understand it better.
Do I understand everything?
No, I don't.
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There's still things I'm trying tounderstand, but I will tell you that
that paradigm shift, that click whenit has occurred, I now read these
scriptures, especially in the NewTestament with a whole new light, with
a whole new hope, with an excitement of.
Wow, I understand howthese things fit together.
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Instead of trying to read them and pullthings forward into the news stories
of today, trying to make it fit withthe politics and the events of our day.
I do think things apply, but weare just expanding God's kingdom.
We don't have fear, we have faith.
We've gone from striving.
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And trying and trying andtrying and being fearful to that
is what the real message is.
We are abiding.
The kingdom is here.
The new covenant is real, and theinvitation as it has been for 2000 years.
Has always been open,and it's open right now.
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And if you're hearing this andyou're going, wow, you know, you
might be listening, going, you know,I, I disagree with a lot of that.
That's fine.
I'd love to hear your comments.
I'd love to engage with you.
But if you're hearing this andgoing, that's what I've needed to
hear, that's the message that I'veneeded to hear about that is actual.
Good news then.
Hallelujah.
Welcome in.
That's the kingdom of God.
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You're welcome to join in andyou can now with the proper
mindset, start reading scriptureand expanding the kingdom of God.
I wanna remind us back to episode one.
When we talked about the new man fromCS Lewis, the real transformation
that happens is when we stop striving,stop living in fear, and we start
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abiding and living as that new manthat CS Lewis spoke about and that
we talked about in episode one.
Of this season.
This wasn't just personal,it was prophetic.
The old system is gone.
The new man lives in the new covenant,and the kingdom is here, and those
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of us that have accepted Christ liveand operate in the kingdom of God.
I hope this has been good for you.
This may be the end of the series, butit's just the beginning of the journey.
Many of you are going to bereally perplexed by this.
All I ask you to do is go back andread the New Testament with some of
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the things I've talked about in mind.
Read it, thinking about what.
The audience was thinking,what were they going through?
Instead of read reading Revelation as ifit's some kind of future thing, read it
as if it was a message to those that werebeing warned about a destruction that was
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about to happen just a few years later.
Part of my journey of learning more hasbeen to meditate on what it was like in
the first century, what was going on inGalatia when Paul's first letter, his
scroll arrived, and what I've done, Ijust wanna give you a little glimpse into
some projects that I've been working on.
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I think many of you know thatI've written some fiction.
I guess over my right shoulder here ismy book, my novel that I wrote, which
was a modern day story, A modern dayparable, but the Lord has really led me
over the last few years into spendingtime in the first century thinking
about the audience and the writers.
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What was going on during those 40years, between 80 30 and 80 70?
And so one of the things thatI've been doing is immersing
myself in that timeframe.
And what it's led to are someideas and some stories that are
fictional, but they're based on truth.
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They're based on scriptural things,they're based on actual historical events.
And I have been working on some of those.
So there's actually going to be somenovels, I'll call 'em mini novels
and stories about that timeframe.
I've actually written the firstone that occurs right around that
timeframe of 80, 70, and, um.
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Got some work to do on it, but I'm reallyliking the way it's coming together.
And then another project I'm working on,and this one actually might be sooner
and I think it'll be valuable if you haveinterest in really going deeper into this.
And what I've done is, is I've takeneach book of the New Testament, and I'm
going through it in order historically,we believe the book of James was written
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first around 15 years after the crossin AD 45, and I started with James
and I took a look at what James wasdoing when he wrote the book of James,
the audience that he was directing itto and what was going on with that.
Audience and what I've done,I've already kind of created
my first few drafts of this.
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I created the scenario to kind of put us,to put me in the place that James wrote
it with, the audience that he wrote itto, and then I write, it's fictional,
but it's based on those truths and thosehistorical things that we know, and
it's about a one to two pager short.
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Short story or short synopsis thatprepares us to then read the book of
James and then, and so I've written thatand I've also written one for Galatians,
which was written just a few years later.
It was Paul's first letter thathe wrote to the church in Galatia,
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and I've actually written that so.
I plan to do that for all 27books of the New Testament.
Put it together in a Bible study thatwill look like a 90 day reading plan
for the New Testament, and it will be inthe order that the books were written.
So it starts with Jamesthen goes to Galacia.
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Thessalonians, I believe are next andet cetera, and it has those stories
in the background for you to read.
I'm excited about it.
I hope people are too.
I'll probably put someup on my social media.
I'll probably make some initial downloadsavailable, and I may put it together
in some form of a Bible study or book.
But anyway, I believe it will be helpfulto immerse ourselves more into that first.
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Century because here's what I believe.
I believe if we understand whothe New Testament was written
to more, then we also understandthe message of the New Testament.
And if we understand the messageof the New Testament, we understand
more how it applies to us.
And if we understand more how itapplies to us, we can fully walk out.
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Our call to seek first the Kingdom of Godand his righteousness that Jesus stated in
the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 6 33.
I hope that this has been helpful for you.
It has been helpful forme to put it together.
I've learned a lot just tryingto focus this into five episodes
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to kinda share the journey thatI've been on, and so I am hopeful.
Full that this will help you live outthe kingdom of God that we are called to
be living in and expanding here and now.
Thank you for joining ushere on Seek Go Create.
Until next time, keep becoming andliving what you were created to be.
What if the end times thatmany Christians are anxiously
waiting for already happened?
What if the prophecies of Jesus, Pauland John weren't about our future, but
about their present and their near future?
If you've lived with fear, confusion,or dread about Revelation and the end.
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This episode might change everything.
The purpose of this I'll be upfront,it's to reveal how understanding
the historical fulfillment of NewTestament prophecy shifts our posture
from fear to confidence, and allowsus to live fully in the kingdom.
Now welcome to Seat Go Create.
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This is Tim Winders, your host.
This is episode five of the season.
Why The Bible Doesn't Make Sense yet,and we've been rolling along with a
lot of cool topics and we are going toput maybe not a finish on it, but at
least an exclamation point on what we'vebeen talking about in this episode.
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And I'll go ahead and if I had the redlight and could start, you know, swirling
around with all types of things, thisis something that in Christian world, in
church world is extremely controversial.
Probably more controversialthan just about.
Anything.
I found out about a year or so backwhen I interviewed someone that talked
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about end times, antichrist, raptureand those kind of things, and I just
thought we were having a conversation.
Well, if you go back and read thosecomments, some of the comments from I.
Well, we'll call 'em Christians aresome of the most vile, ugly, hate-filled
comments that you will ever see.
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Don't mess with people'srapture and don't mess with.
Somebody's gonna come and takeme away from all this mess.
But I'm guessing that if some folks aregonna be listening to this and you feel
really strongly that we're gonna beraptured outta here and there's gonna
be an escape hatch to break away pretribulation and avoid the antichrist and
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Israel's being reestablished and all that,we're about to, kind of shake that up.
But hang with me.
Because we could walk through itwith scripture and talk about how it
fits with the Bible, and that's oneof the reasons we've been talking
about how the Bible, the story of theBible, the narrative, if so important.
Because if you pull out some of thesescriptures and try to make it fit with
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news items or headlines that we seetoday, you know, you can start trying
to convince people that maybe, maybe.
The end times that Jesus prophesiedwhat happened within a, within a
generation 40 years of, of his death,maybe you could start convincing people.
If you twist the scripturesaround that it still.
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Fulfilling or about tohappen 2000 years later.
That's not the case though.
Let's talk about it.
Let's break it down and let's look atthe story of the Bible that we've been
looking at for the last four episodes.
There is, in modern Christianity, andmaybe it's mostly in our country of
America, but probably in the first worldI've noticed it in other countries,
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there's this lingering anxiety in modernChristianity about the end of the world.
Many believers live in fear that there'sgonna be this thing of rapture and what
if I'm raptured out, or what if I'm not?
And there's a tribulation, there'santichrist, all of those things.
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Those things that we've been discussingthat many people have been saying,
and I believed a lot of this upuntil recently, those things are
actually not scriptural and they'renot part of the biblical story.
They were part of a story thatoccurred 2000 years ago, and they
may still have some relevance, butthey are not part of some future.
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I am more convinced of that than Iever have been, and for many years.
I just wanted to avoid the topic and I'lltalk more about that in just a moment.
This has been fueled bysensationalism movies.
I. And out of context teaching.
I still remember, I've mentioned thisbefore in some episodes that on my
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parents' shelf when I was growing up,and we didn't go to church that much.
We were not real church going people.
We grew up in the deep south, so we had alot of religion around us, but not a lot
of, I guess, spiritual depth necessarily.
But we had the book.
The late Great Planet Earth, that wasone of the biggest sellers around, and
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it basically predicted that the worldwould end in 19 88, 40 years after the
Nation of Israel was established in 1948.
Well, here we are in 2025and he wrote an updated book.
That said, it was actually a fewyears later and then a few years
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later and a few years later.
Bottom line is he has sold a boatloadof books predicting that the end is
near and none of them have come true.
In the nineties.
I read a bunch of fiction books.
That were the left behind series that werewritten as fiction, but they were written
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with scriptural foundation air quotesfor those that might be listening in.
And I read them and theywere great stories, and they
had some scripture in 'em.
But truthfully, they twisted scripture andthey told a story that wasn't accurate.
And a lot of people believe that I did.
I mean, it was probablybaked into my theology.
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It was, I was a fairly newChristian and I was thinking, man,
this is some kind of stuff here.
And what that does is it creates kindof a spiritual panic, a doom that
things are gonna get bad or that they'realways getting worse when in actuality.
Most things are getting better,but we believe spiritually
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that they're getting worse.
And if we are people of Christianfaith and we have this thought that
we're going through life, that thingsare really getting worse when they're
actually in many ways getting better.
I'm in, I'm sitting here inan office in air conditioning.
I'm in Georgia.
It's hot outside, butI'm cool on the inside.
I've got cameras, lights,all this kind of stuff here.
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Things are getting better.
Are there some thingsthat don't look great?
Of course there are.
I'm not fooling myself.
there's still good and bad in the world.
There's evil, there'sexplanations for that.
But people are in a spiritual panicand it's rooted in misunderstanding.
And as we've been talking aboutin previous episodes of this
season, not understanding thefull narrative and the story of.
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What the Bible is all about.
The words of Jesus I think are what wereally need to go to to understand this.
They were urgent andthey were time sensitive.
In Matthew 24, Jesus said, this generationwill not pass before these events
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occur, and then went on to state some.
End of times language.
That was the end of times thatwould occur 40 years later.
A generation, by the way, withthe events that occurred in 80 70.
Now, I wanna say this, andI wanna say this strongly.
If you are one that says, Jesus reallydidn't mean 40 years, or that he
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really didn't mean a generation, or youstart parsing what a generation means.
Then in my opinion, you're messing withthe words of Jesus and you're belittling
the prophetic nature of what Jesus said.
You're gonna have to start doing thatwith a lot of other things he said,
and that is dangerous territory.
I truly believe that when Jesussaid, this generation will not pass.
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Jesus meant it and it was trueand it became true, and Jesus also
said it was in the same, what somecall the vet discourse that some
standing here will not taste death.
He was speaking to his apostles.
And one of those apostles that we believedid not taste death before 80 70 was John.
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and so the others did, they weremartyred, but he said that I believe that.
And historically we can back that up.
Jesus also said when you see Jerusalemsurrounded, and we've tried to take
that and talk about all these eventsoccurring in the 2010s in the 2020s.
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That occurred in 80 70.
It is historical.
It is a fact that the armies ofRome surrounded Jerusalem before
destroying Jerusalem and the temple.
And then it said, you willsee the son of man coming.
And that coming was the ending of theold covenant that occurred in 80 70.
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It was the day of the Lord.
These were real warnings to real people.
In the first century, not scaretactics for people that are of our
day that are combing the headlines.
Trying to find how these thingsthat were written in the first
century to audiences in the firstcentury, and it applied to them.
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It doesn't apply to us now.
we can learn things from it.
They mean things.
There's, there are things there thatwe can glean and gain from, but all
I'm saying is let's don't try to twistit and make it apply to things that
are going on today and make thingsup when it actually already happened.
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The New Testament writersoutside of Jesus also.
Echoed this immediacy in Acts two17, the statement in the last days.
In fact, if you do a search on, the endor last days, it is all throughout the New
Testament and in almost every situation,it is specifically being addressed to
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the audience that it was written to.
So think about this, ifsomeone came to your door.
And said, by the way, I want totell you some things about the
last days or the end or somethingthat's coming and it's coming soon.
and you found out, it wasthousands of years later.
That would make no sense.
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In fact, I believe it would belittlethe messages that were being written
and sent to the audience of that day.
So, also in one Corinthians 10 11,the end of the age has come upon us.
Not 2000 years later, the endof the ages come upon them.
Those people in Corinth that receivedthis letter in Hebrews in these last
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days, he had spoken to us by his son.
And then James five three.
James message.
You have Hoarded Wealth inthe last day speaking to them.
Then current present, it is the last hour.
That was something that John said inone John 2 18, 1 Peter four seven.
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The end of all things is at hand.
Therefore be serious andwatchful in your prayers.
I just think it's really arrogant ofus to really believe that all of those
things that were written to the audiencesof those days, it's arrogant of us to
pluck those things out and try to saythat that's what's going on today.
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I just had someone I interact with onFacebook that they were posting that the
end is near, obviously look at what'sgoing on, and they said something about.
you, you know, they, somethingfrom a headline that was going on.
and listen, there is afinal end that will occur.
We are moving towards a new Jerusalem.
That was at the very end ofRevelation, but it wasn't all
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of the events of Revelation thatwere the tribulation events.
Nope.
that already occurred.
That happened.
The fulfillment of all of those things.
In fact, I would even say the first1920 chapters of Revelation occurred.
In 80, 70 in or around 8770, the temple was destroyed.
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Jerusalem was judged, and thenation of Israel was devastated,
just as Moses warned his people.
That was all in Deuteronomy 28 through 30.
it said this is what wassaid in Deuteronomy 28.
Now it shall come to pass if youdiligently obey the voice of the Lord
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your God, to observe carefully all hiscommandments that the Lord your God
will set you high above all the nations.
But it goes on to say.
That if you do not obey the voice of theLord, there are cursings that will occur.
Now, being a guy that came fromProsperity Gospel roots, when I was
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first saved in a first early Christian,I really loved those blessings.
Boy, I tell you what, I hung outand spent time with those blessings.
And I think many people in FirstWorld Church, we do the same.
But one, one of the things that you haveto look at is what are those curses?
And if you look at those curses.
And you compare those with what occurredin the first 19 chapters of Revelation,
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then you'll see that that was thejudgment that was warned about in
Deuteronomy 28, some in 29 and 30, thatit occurred all the way in Revelation in
the, in the early parts of Revelation.
So it was warned that judgment came,the nation of Israel did not obey.
They were judged for that, and theywere also judged for not honoring
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and recognizing the Messiah.
When the Messiah came, Jesus wassent for Israel first to call
them to repentance, then for theGentiles and to bring judgment.
That judgment that we hear aboutin Deuteronomy 28 through 30.
And to continue drawing all things tohim, to God, after that period of time.
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And that was the purpose, not, not tojust kind of set the stage for some
future ending event that they discussedand talked about in Revelation.
And this was not an episode togo into all the gory details of
Revelation, but I did want to.
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Talk about kind of revelation as a warningand a warning for the people of that
day, not necessarily for the future.
In fact, the chapters that addressbeyond what happened in 80 70
are incredibly, incredibly, I,you know, They are optimistic.
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the Revelation 20 and 21 and 22 areextremely optimistic and talks of
there's no death There will be no chaos.
There will be no sickness,there will be no tears.
and that's where we're headed.
We're not headed towards that first partof Revelation that's already occurred.
That was just a warning to those people.
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It wasn't a cryptic roadmap for ourtime where we start trying to take
all these pieces and make them apply.
It was pastoral and prophetic,and it was full of symbols that
were known to first century.
Jews, and let me giveyou the perspective here.
There are Old Testament references inthe book of Revelation that the audience
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of that day would have understood.
Than we would ever understand.
I mean, it is full of Old Testamentreferences that in, in my opinion, is
probably written not in a direct format,but in somewhat of a code so that the
audience that received these letters fromJohn would know what he was talking about.
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And I just think about this for amoment, just put yourself in their shoes.
Let's just say that we're in thetimeframe of 80, 65, 64, 65, 66.
We believe that theApostle Paul was beheaded.
In Rome at around that time,somewhere in that timeframe.
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So think about today, if a prominentfigure, a world leader or a ministry
leader, someone that you knew, youfound out that they were beheaded for
their beliefs around that same time.
Peter was also, he was also martyred.
He was crucified.
He refused to be crucifiedlike Jesus Christ was crucified
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and was crucified upside down.
What if you got wordthat that was going on?
What if you were one of thesesmall groups, this, these groups
or ecclesias, these small churchesthat were sort of huddled together?
You had the Jewish structure that wascoming against you because they believed
you were heretics and did not understandthis Messiah that you believed in, and
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they were fairly violent themselves.
They're the ones that actually, Martyred.
James threw him off the temple, in fact.
and they were also the onesthat sent Paul to Rome.
And, that actually was howPaul was beheaded, was while
he was in Rome, but just.
Think about, put yourself in their shoes.
You're sitting there and you believethis Messiah, this Jesus, and maybe
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you are of a Jewish background.
Maybe you are a Gentile, but you believethis and you've got the Roman Empire.
That's coming against that belief systemand you've got the Nation of Israel, the
Jewish people that are coming against it.
You've got two forces squeezingyou and you've got a letter or
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something that comes from John.
I don't think that John's goingto be clear and say, by the way.
The Roman government is going toattack Jerusalem, and Jerusalem
is going to be destroyed.
I just don't see him saying it that way.
I believe he has to write in code.
He has to use numbers like 6, 6, 6 thatthey understood what it meant and he has
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to write in a way that isn't exactly.
Understood by all it's understood bypeople that knew the Old Testament, that
knew how to read some of those things andthen apply it to what was going on Then.
So when you receive that letter fromJohn, I. In AD 66 or 67, it gave you a
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warning of what was about to happen overthe next three and a half years leading up
to a 70 in the destruction of the temple.
It was pastoral, it was prophetic, itwas a warning, and it was full of symbols
that they knew in the first century.
It's one of the reasons whywe don't know it well, because
we haven't studied all that.
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And we try to make a lot of thingsup to try to make it fit our
world and it just doesn't fit.
It described persecutionof Rome, Rome's corruption.
That's another reason why he wouldn'tput it in a letter necessarily
and sign the bottom of it.
He needed to kind write it in, code it.
It described the coming endof the old Covenant SE system.
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The old covenant system would endwhen the temple was destroyed.
The temple is where sacrifices occurred.
Sacrifice was required in theold covenant, was also required
in the new covenant, but that.
Occurred with Jesus.
It was a one-time sacrifice thatwas all that needed to be done.
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But in the old covenant, they needed todo sacrifices constantly and systemically.
When the temple was destroyed,there was no more sacrifice.
With no more sacrifice, no more covenant.
The old covenant ended.
The only covenant remaining isthe new covenant, the Messiah
covenant, the covenant that welive and operate under today.
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John wrote to warn and he wrote itin Old Testament code for a reason.
It was really about victory.
Not doom.
That was the point.
Those who overcome.
Now what does that mean for us now?
Because some of you might begoing now, hold on a second.
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I've been operating andliving as if we're doomed.
The end is near and I am justhopeful that I've made the right
decision so that when people getplucked out of here and raptured
away before things get really bad.
I'll be okay, and I'm just lookingto punch my ticket to heaven.
That's not the story ofthe Bible by the way.
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That's not our goal, is topunch our ticket to heaven.
So what does that mean for me?
You might be asking yourself the question.
That's what I did, is I was going throughthis process Of clearing this paradigm
out, of getting this junk that I hadbelieved for so long that I realized
it was just baked into my mindset.
I was baked into the way I thought itwas baked, into the way I read the Bible.
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It was one of the reasonsthat I read it wrong.
It's why we've been talking aboutthat over the last few episodes.
I just read it wrong.
I understood things differentlywhen I was reading about what.
Peter said what Paul saidabout what John said.
I was trying to totally apply itto me instead of understanding the
audience that they wrote it to.
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If the judgment that Jesus foretoldalready happened, we are not
waiting for that judgment anymore.
There will be a final judgment.
I'm not saying that all thingsare the way they are going to be.
Final judgment, but it doesn'thave all of that other junk we've
been trying to incorporate into it.
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we are, we are movingtowards another Eden.
We're moving towards a new Jerusalem.
We are operating currently in thekingdom of God that Jesus brought,
and we're moving toward the.
Final time of being new Jerusalempeople, the sons and daughters of
God, not awaiting or hoping for someescape because things are so bad.
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But we are here expanding andbuilding the kingdom of God
while we are here on this earth.
God's presence is here.
His kingdom has come.
We have the authority to operate in that.
All we do is live it and shareit and experience it with others.
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We don't have to scare people withsomething bad that's gonna happen.
If something on this earth happens toremove us from the earth or remove us
from this realm before the new Jerusalemoccurs, We're good because we are still
in a realm that's moving towards newJerusalem, the new heaven and earth,
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the resurrected bodies that we will bein that are, that is what is told in
the last few chapters of Revelation.
The mission is not survival.
It's restoration.
It's being restored into God'skingdom, into his family, and
being sons and daughters of God.
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The Bible ends where it began,presence, peace, and a garden city.
It.
It really is.
The Eden that we see in Revelationis the new Jerusalem description
that we're moving towards.
It's the marriage that we hear about, themarriage of the lamb, the restoration.
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We live as kingdom citizens,co-laboring with Christ, as his
ambassadors here on this earth.
We have seen so many scriptures.
I mean, I've alreadymentioned Matthew 24 34.
This generation will not pass.
When you see Jerusalem surrounded,you will see the son of man coming.
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The dwelling place of God is with man.
He is with us.
He is in us.
The Bible.
Listen, let me just wrap up with this.
The Bible's not about fear.
It's about.
Fulfillment.
Is there a lot of scarystuff in the Bible?
Yeah, there absolutely is.
But the story, the narrative, thething that I've been talking about
is the good news, the gospel, thefulfillment of living in God's kingdom.
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Those of us that have accepted Christand are operating in living with Christ
and in Christ, we are fulfilling.
We are fulfilling.
The, the living in God's kingdom,it's not a countdown to destruction.
It's an invitation to live.
It's an invitation to life.
It's an invitation to expand his kingdom.
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While we are here, the whole season,this whole episode, all these five
episodes has been about helping you.
Move from confusion to context.
It's all about the journey thatI've been on moving from, you know,
what, what is, what is this bible?
What is this all about?
What are these scriptures?
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And I mean, listen, Ihad some stuff baked in.
I hung out in Bible school with alot of people that were good folks.
They were trying their best,but didn't really understand
the story, and I didn't either.
For whatever reason, the Lord'sled me on a journey the last few
years to understand it better.
Do I understand everything?
No, I don't.
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There's still things I'm trying tounderstand, but I will tell you that
that paradigm shift, that click whenit has occurred, I now read these
scriptures, especially in the NewTestament with a whole new light, with
a whole new hope, with an excitement of.
Wow, I understand howthese things fit together.
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Instead of trying to read them and pullthings forward into the news stories
of today, trying to make it fit withthe politics and the events of our day.
I do think things apply, but weare just expanding God's kingdom.
We don't have fear, we have faith.
We've gone from striving.
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And trying and trying andtrying and being fearful to that
is what the real message is.
We are abiding.
The kingdom is here.
The new covenant is real, and theinvitation as it has been for 2000 years.
Has always been open,and it's open right now.
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And if you're hearing this andyou're going, wow, you know, you
might be listening, going, you know,I, I disagree with a lot of that.
That's fine.
I'd love to hear your comments.
I'd love to engage with you.
But if you're hearing this andgoing, that's what I've needed to
hear, that's the message that I'veneeded to hear about that is actual.
Good news then.
Hallelujah.
Welcome in.
That's the kingdom of God.
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You're welcome to join in andyou can now with the proper
mindset, start reading scriptureand expanding the kingdom of God.
I wanna remind us back to episode one.
When we talked about the new man fromCS Lewis, the real transformation
that happens is when we stop striving,stop living in fear, and we start
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abiding and living as that new manthat CS Lewis spoke about and that
we talked about in episode one.
Of this season.
This wasn't just personal,it was prophetic.
The old system is gone.
The new man lives in the new covenant,and the kingdom is here, and those
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of us that have accepted Christ liveand operate in the kingdom of God.
I hope this has been good for you.
This may be the end of the series, butit's just the beginning of the journey.
Many of you are going to bereally perplexed by this.
All I ask you to do is go back andread the New Testament with some of
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the things I've talked about in mind.
Read it, thinking about what.
The audience was thinking,what were they going through?
Instead of read reading Revelation as ifit's some kind of future thing, read it
as if it was a message to those that werebeing warned about a destruction that was
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about to happen just a few years later.
Part of my journey of learning more hasbeen to meditate on what it was like in
the first century, what was going on inGalatia when Paul's first letter, his
scroll arrived, and what I've done, Ijust wanna give you a little glimpse into
some projects that I've been working on.
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I think many of you know thatI've written some fiction.
I guess over my right shoulder here ismy book, my novel that I wrote, which
was a modern day story, A modern dayparable, but the Lord has really led me
over the last few years into spendingtime in the first century thinking
about the audience and the writers.
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What was going on during those 40years, between 80 30 and 80 70?
And so one of the things thatI've been doing is immersing
myself in that timeframe.
And what it's led to are someideas and some stories that are
fictional, but they're based on truth.
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They're based on scriptural things,they're based on actual historical events.
And I have been working on some of those.
So there's actually going to be somenovels, I'll call 'em mini novels
and stories about that timeframe.
I've actually written the firstone that occurs right around that
timeframe of 80, 70, and, um.
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Got some work to do on it, but I'm reallyliking the way it's coming together.
And then another project I'm working on,and this one actually might be sooner
and I think it'll be valuable if you haveinterest in really going deeper into this.
And what I've done is, is I've takeneach book of the New Testament, and I'm
going through it in order historically,we believe the book of James was written
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first around 15 years after the crossin AD 45, and I started with James
and I took a look at what James wasdoing when he wrote the book of James,
the audience that he was directing itto and what was going on with that.
Audience and what I've done,I've already kind of created
my first few drafts of this.
(31:03):
I created the scenario to kind of put us,to put me in the place that James wrote
it with, the audience that he wrote itto, and then I write, it's fictional,
but it's based on those truths and thosehistorical things that we know, and
it's about a one to two pager short.
(31:23):
Short story or short synopsis thatprepares us to then read the book of
James and then, and so I've written thatand I've also written one for Galatians,
which was written just a few years later.
It was Paul's first letter thathe wrote to the church in Galatia,
(31:44):
and I've actually written that so.
I plan to do that for all 27books of the New Testament.
Put it together in a Bible study thatwill look like a 90 day reading plan
for the New Testament, and it will be inthe order that the books were written.
So it starts with Jamesthen goes to Galacia.
(32:05):
Thessalonians, I believe are next andet cetera, and it has those stories
in the background for you to read.
I'm excited about it.
I hope people are too.
I'll probably put someup on my social media.
I'll probably make some initial downloadsavailable, and I may put it together
in some form of a Bible study or book.
But anyway, I believe it will be helpfulto immerse ourselves more into that first.
(32:28):
Century because here's what I believe.
I believe if we understand whothe New Testament was written
to more, then we also understandthe message of the New Testament.
And if we understand the messageof the New Testament, we understand
more how it applies to us.
And if we understand more how itapplies to us, we can fully walk out.
(32:50):
Our call to seek first the Kingdom of Godand his righteousness that Jesus stated in
the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 6 33.
I hope that this has been helpful for you.
It has been helpful forme to put it together.
I've learned a lot just tryingto focus this into five episodes
(33:13):
to kinda share the journey thatI've been on, and so I am hopeful.
Full that this will help you live outthe kingdom of God that we are called to
be living in and expanding here and now.
Thank you for joining ushere on Seek Go Create.
Until next time, keep becoming andliving what you were created to be.
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