The Power of Resilience and Simplicity with Dan Britton and Jimmy Page

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That is truly success. That is winning when
we say we're we're passing we we we say, live
intentionally, maximize relationships, and pass the
torch. Right? Most of us live haphazardly, not
intentionally. Most of us marginalize relationships or manage
relationships, we don't maximize them. What's it look like to show up every day to

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maximize? And what's it look like not to drop the torch, but to pass
the torch to the next generation? That's winning.
That's success.

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What does it take to be resilient and transform potential
into purposeful action? Join us as we explore this question
and others with Dan Britten and Jimmy Page, leaders who channel
their faith and expertise into empowering others.
Dan, a former professional athlete and seasoned leader with the Fellowship of
Christian Athletes, has influenced countless lives across the

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globe. Jimmy, a wellness expert and founder of the
Unstoppable Freedom Alliance, is dedicated to unlocking
human potential. Together, they've offered the just released
Daily Wisdom for Men, offering powerful insights to help
men live with resilience and
purpose. Dan and Jimmy, welcome to SeatGo Create.

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It's good to be here. Oh, glad to be here, buddy. Let's go.
Yeah. Let's go. We're gonna have some fun here. My first question,
Dan, I'm gonna jump to you on this. Both of you get to answer
it. You get to choose. Would you rather answer the
question who you are or what you
do? Pick it and go ahead and answer it.

(01:50):
I think I would choose the who or what.
So Alright. I would Go ahead and answer it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
quickly, I would say that I am first a
lover of Jesus, saved by grace. That's who I
am for my entire most of my life, age 8, except to
Christ with my mom, then sold out for Jesus

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most of my life and called into ministry. So
who I am, I'm I'm a minister, a sports minister, a
sports coach, a leadership coach, an international
trainer. My husband, I'm a father of
3 married kids. I'm a grandfather of 2 amazing grandchildren. That's
who I am. And I'm an athlete that loves,

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running. I run every day. I'm addicted to running. Run marathons, Boston
Marathon. Love fishing, disc golf.
And I'm also the who I am. I'm the Ukraine
national lacrosse coach for a war torn
country, but, here I am as the, lacrosse coach of the
national teams. That's who I am. Excellent. Thank

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you. Alright, Jimmy. We're gonna lob it over to you here. What you
do or who are you? Which question do you choose and go ahead and answer
it? Yeah. Great question. It's all about who. Right? Who before you
do? And, so I would say, you know, I'm a man of god. I'm
I'm a a husband of 32 years to my college
sweetheart, Ivelisse. We've had a great marriage, and we've had a

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a lot of ups and downs and challenges along the way that have refined us.
We've got 4 adult kids. We've been empty nesters for a while, which is
a little weird, and our daughter is home now for her last semester of
college. She's doing it remote. She'll be graduating from Liberty University,
but so all of a sudden, we've got more life in the home, so we're
all excited about that. You know, I've been in

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leadership, culture, and human performance for
a long, long time. So I'm somebody that, you know, really is
committed to inspiring you and others to
live the unstoppable life, unleashing supernatural
purpose, passion, and power. So
that's kinda what I do as well. But, first and foremost, a man

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of god trying to live a life of fruitfulness and faithfulness.
So the cool thing is I was doing a little bit of background research,
etcetera. I was going, alright. This is gonna be a fun conversation, but
there's a lot of stuff out there where y'all have gone over your backgrounds and
stuff like that. We may provide links for people
to kinda go check that out. I don't think we're gonna dive into that here.

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You guys, a while back, wrote a book called One
Word, basically is coming up with a word for the year that kinda
drives you in so many ways. As I was doing this
this morning, I was spending some quiet time actually reading
today's, item from your book that we're gonna talk about a
little bit later. The word resilience came to mind, and I said, you

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know what? I think resilience is our
theme or our word for this episode. I know y'all guys do
podcasts and all too, but, Jimmy, when I bring up that having a
one word or theme for this episode, what does that
stir inside you? What what goes through your mind? Well, I love it. I mean,
it's kind of consistent with the whole concept of that focus

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drives impact. Focus drives performance. You know?
It's when we're distracted by many things that we become ineffective. So
even just the idea that we've got a theme for the show, that's I love
that, man. Let's go. So now we've got rails. That's gonna make us
super effective, I think. But, you know, the word word resilience
is really a game changer for most people. It's it's something actually

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that is in big need in our culture right now.
We've got we've got a lack of grit, a lack of resilience. And
resilience is this idea that you can bounce back
from really hard things, that you can go through hard things, that you can go
through challenges and obstacles and all that, but you're able to bounce
back. And I think of resilience as one step, kind

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of above grit. Grit's good. Grit gets you through it. But resilience
is this idea that you can be better after you go through
it. That it's not just surviving. It's a matter of
thriving. And when you come out the other side, you've learned some things. You've
maybe expanded your capacity in some way, and you're a different
person than when you entered into that challenge. Right. Yeah.

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That's good. Dan, why don't you do, for my sake in the audience,
why don't you give a a little bit of a I don't know if it's
a plug background or whatever on that one word book that you
guys wrote a while back. I think you wrote it with John Gordon. Right?
And and so just give a little bit on that because it's kind
of a little bit of kinda helps with the foundation for

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this one word concept. Yeah. One
one word was supposed to be our very first book Jimmy and I wrote. Right,
Jimmy? Like, back way back 15 plus years ago.
And we had a publisher we pitched it to. He was all excited about it.
But then we shared this concept about wisdom walks, discipleship, mentoring,
having 4 key relationships. Believe it or not, the publisher is like,

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no. We can do one word later. We wanna produce Wisdom Walks. So,
actually, it's crazy that kind of this one word theme that we
really that's vision that we really wanted to communicate that we thought was
so catalytic was our gonna be our first book, but Wisdom
Walks became our first book. Anyways, there's a string of things. We just saw
that God was using, this concept of one word.

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1999, we kinda launched into the year 2000,
you know, y two k world was gonna melt, and everyone's gonna try
to figure out if we're gonna survive. And really, that was the 1st year that
I had a one word. You know, again, I had a 7 page Word document
with a lot of roles and goals and everything else. And like a dog returning
to his vomit. Right? Like, Tim, I I would do 90

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10%, 90% will wait would be at the waist, but I would
go right back to it. And so not very successful with all
that. And so kind of this creating a one word for the year
2000. And even I that year was a year of intimacy. And so
I kinda scrapped the resolutions, put away the 7 page Word
document, and just laser focused in on

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this word of intimacy. And man, intimacy was everywhere. It was right here, every
sermon, every song, every book. It was like my radar was up.
And that was a chapter in this my story of the year
2000. And, you know, I shared it with Jimmy, and then we shared it with
John, and then it was just catalytic. It was like everyone was like,
this is incredible. And that's when we actually said, hey, we gotta get a book

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together. And the concept is literally look in,
look up, and look out. You know, look in, look up, look out. Look in,
prepare the heart. Unplug as we get ready for a new year. See
what God wants to do. Henry Nown says, a word of power is
birthed out of silence. Step away, seek silence and solitude,
and be able to prepare that. And then look up, say, hey, God, I want

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not just a good word, but a God word, and receive that word, and
and be able to not really pick the word, but the word finds you.
And whatever that word is, whether it's a attribute, a characteristic, a fruit of the
spirit. But it's really about who you wanna be, not what you wanna do. You
started out with that, the who or the do, but it was not setting to
be goals. To be goals, not to do goals. And so, you know, who

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do you wanna become the character? And then look in, look up, and look out
is really moving forward and actually applying your word,
implying it to every aspect, every area of your life. And that's the fun
part. Right, Jimmy? That's when we get a chance to put it front and center.
And so really that's really what is it. So here we are 250,000
books later, over a 1000000 people downloaded the YouVersion reading plan.

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People from all over the world translated in in over 50
languages, the reading plan. And we're just, like, seeing God
just breathe on this in a very unique way
for the last really now, Jimmy, what, 25 years as we're
going into the year of 2025. The thing that I love
about that, Dan, and I'll I'm a let both of y'all chime in on this,

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is that I think we're in a very complex world.
I work with leaders and leadership teams. I know to varying degrees, all three
of us work with leaders. And what I see
is the complexity, the chaos is just piling
on. It's one of the reasons why we're gonna come back and talk resiliency because
I think we don't know what's gonna be coming up. We need to be

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resilient, and it's sort of a preparation for us. But I used to
do what you just talked about, Dan. I used to especially during the nineties, I
would have, like, this 21 page beginning of the year
document that was all of my goals, and it was, you know,
3 pages in each of 7 areas.
And, truthfully, I look back on it and I go, good gracious. I

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love the this is the word that came to my mind when you were talking,
Dan, the simplicity of one word. I I
liked it so much that I went and bought the book as a gift
for my grown children. And because they're
I noticed complexity coming in their lives. You know, they're starting families or they're young
adults, and there's just so much coming at them. Let's briefly and

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this is with this big theme of resilience. Let's talk
about the need for simplicity. One more thing on that. I
think I heard John you guys talk about writing this
book and that John brought a lot of
value because he kept simplifying the
message and the process. So just Mhmm. I guess the the big

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word here is simplicity with the bigger word of resilience.
Jimmy, what do you wanna chime in, add, throw on
on the on the heap there related to the need for simplicity
in the world we're in today? Yeah. It's interesting. I had an opportunity this
morning to talk with business leaders down in Denver, and, the theme
of my talk was all around next level, you know, leveling up your

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life. And they were all ready for some complicated, you
know, formula to make that happen, and I what I gave them was ultra
simple. Everyone to a man and to a woman afterward came up and said, thank
you for simplifying this down, not making this too complex.
And I think when John and and Dan and I wrote this book, Dan and
I would send him just pages and pages of each chapter,

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sometimes 15, 20, 25 pages of content, and it would come back
as a page and a half or 2 pages. And it it was disastrous in
the end. The genius of John Gordon is taking complex things
and making them simple. I think he's rubbed off on Dan and I over many
years, this idea of not overcomplicating a simple
process. So even the 3 step process of

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looking in, looking up, and looking out, that
started as a 7 step process. Now it's 3.
It's so simple. A caveman can do it. And, you know, when you
overlay this theme, this single word theme for the year,
you experience life change. Absolute life change
because you're not confused anymore about the 40 goals or the

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22 pages that you have, you know, of all the things you're gonna get
done. This is really about transformation from the inside out, which
is simplifying. My first word back in 1999 for the
year 2000 was simplify, and I got rid of a lot of
complexity that year, and that stayed with me as part of my DNA. And I
think that you have to remove clutter,

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distractions, and all of that in order to be resilient.
If you're overwhelmed, you're not in a state of resiliency.
You're in a state of overwhelm. So it all kind of works
together in a simple way. Yeah. I think it's almost
fragile. I mean, we've got so many plates, so much going on.
When I've got so much in my head, I like to think I've got some

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capacity. I mean, I've got documents pulled up here
with about 5 books I'm working on, and I'm sitting here thinking to
myself, I really need to peel away 4 of them and then work
on using less words, especially in the age of AI and things like that where
we can just pile on the words
simplicity. Dan, what do you wanna say about simplicity? Yeah. One of

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my life principles, Tim, that I've discovered from my own life, and I've
seen people around me is we we drift to
complexity, but we drive to simplicity. Right? I'll I'll put
that on my tombstone. I don't think you know, there's some people, I will admit,
I've been around some leaders and organizations, they drive to complexity. Most of
us, we wake up and go, what the heck? Who put more rocks in my

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backpack? Like, more responsibility, more expectations,
our wife, our kids, our job, our
ministry, whatever it is, our church. And also we wake up and
we're like, what happened? I thought life was supposed to get easier, and I
feel more overwhelmed, more cluttered, more complicated,
more complex than I did last year. Well, that's

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because we just drifted to complexity. Like
we say, any old dead fish can go with the flow, but it's a live
fish with a little wiggle upstream. So, you know, the live
fish with a little wiggle that that has driving
towards simplicity. And as you said, Tim, so well,
that the great leaders you spent time with I've had a chance to travel to

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over 60 countries in the last 10 years. And when I'm with them, I don't
walk away going, oh my gosh. Boom. My my brain is blown
up of all the the the formulas of leadership and
all the details they talked about. I walk away from
the most impressive leaders like, oh, my gosh. They put the cookies on the bottom
shelf. This was so basic. They made

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leadership simple. And I believe with all my
heart that we drift to
complexity. We have to drive to simplicity.
I also think I mean, this is where let's go ahead and move into a
faith conversation. I think that there's an enemy out there
that's pulling us to complexity to get us

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all focused of faith. You know, I
guess continuing a little bit with this theme of resiliency and and and even
simplicity, I know both of you guys, when you talk about
who you are, faith is comes up first and foremost.
How does faith how does the component of faith play

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into that, Jimmy? Well, we talk a lot about the
difference between positivity and power. Right?
And a lot of us will you know, there is a beauty of a positive
mindset, a positive affirmations, but what we've
discovered is real power comes through the word of God. It it
comes from this connection, this faith connection to the one who created you.

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So, you know, God talks about abide in me. Jesus says abide in
me, and the whole idea is stay connected to Jesus, stay
grounded, because if you don't, you can't
produce a life of any meaning. You know? In fact, the
scripture says you can do nothing apart from me. Now that doesn't
mean we can't accomplish things and be successful in the world's eyes,

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but we won't accomplish anything of eternal value, of
significance, of legacy stuff where you're passing on your
deepest held values and beliefs to your family, to your children, to
others around you. So for us, the the faith component is the
source of power. It's the source of simplicity.
It's the idea that I'm denying my flesh, and I'm engaged with the

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holy spirit in such a way that I'm walking in power. I'm walking
with an awareness of what other people need, ways that I can bless them,
and it really does simplify things. Right? It it helps you cut out a lot
of stuff that really isn't that important and fill your life with the
things that are most meaningful. Dan, is it possible that we
can overcomplicate even that faith component in

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our lives? Or it I mean, I see it
so much stuff in the realm of faith
and just like we talk about with leadership and just like we talk about
with any of these. And at times, I'm wondering, I love where you
just say we're we're to abide in and with Jesus
Christ, period. So,

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Dan, what are your thoughts on that? Are are are many of us overcomplicating our
faith journey? Yeah. Let's just go back 2000 years
ago. The religious leaders were way over
complicating. And what did Jesus get criticized for? He
got criticized for stripping all the religiosity and
all the rituals away. He got cast down. He got

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pushed out of the church. He got pushed out of the temple. So, yeah, I
mean, here we are for 2000 years. And so in today's age,
with all the information we have at our fingertips with our phone and
everything else, we have just heaped on
every little, hey, 3 steps here and this and that and
books. And, I mean, we we literally have spiritual constipation

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if we would just wanna boil it down. If you wanna talk about overcomplicating,
we are all kind like, if we would just take even what
we have read and what we have up to this point, like a saucer. Just
cut it off and go back and go, I am not gonna learn one
new thing until I try to apply everything I've I've already
read. I just believe we're just constantly looking for the grass is

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greener on the other side. We want that little nugget, that little tidbit,
that cool little saying. We're just seeking and searching, scratch and
sniff, trying to get after all these little things. And
Jesus is just like, rest in me. You know, get in
the yoke every day. Like, my yoke is easy. It's
not complicated. It's not complex.

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It's easy. That was his definition of what it means
to journey with Jesus. It's it's easy. My
yoke is easy. My burden is light. I I want that
yoke. Come on. That's good. Right when
you jumped on Dan, I gave you a little tour of our
400 square foot RV motor coach that we live in. My wife and I for

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6 years have been pretty much nomads. We've got very little space,
which means we have very little stuff. I can't begin to
describe how liberating it is
to have such little stuff and because that's what complicate we
got so many you know, with all these devices and stuff, and, you know, here
we are doing an hour long putting more info out into the world. A little

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bit ironic there, but but, you know, hopefully, this helps some people
clear some things up. What are the things as
I was sitting here just doing a little bit of math?
This is something I want us to discuss because I I think this might be
rare in today's world. If I'm doing the math
correct, we have 3 mature

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men on a call, all
that have been married 30 plus years,
and we'll let people give the specs and all here in just a second.
I think it would be valuable for us to discuss, again, with the theme
resiliency, the importance of
that long term covenant

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biblical type relationship, which is the husband and wife.
And so, Jimmy, let me start with you. Why don't you
give me I think you said 32 years earlier. My wife and I are coming
up on our 37th year, and I think, Dan, you're at
least in the thirties. You can do that when we jump over to you. But
talk about the importance of that relationship

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and how it ties into our theme of the show resilience.
Well, you know, I there's so so many thoughts I have on this, but I
think number 1 is your marriage relationship is gonna reveal
things about you, about your selfishness,
about your pride, about a whole bunch of things. I think God uses
your marriage to refine you more than anything else.

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And I think that you know, so you learn a lot about some things in
you that need to change in order to keep a relationship like
this going for the long term. And then I think you you learn so much
about serving one another. You know? A mentor of ours has always told us to
outserve your spouse. If you can put their needs above your own
and be super intentional about that where you're actually

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seeking to serve their needs above your own. That has proven to
be a formula for success. And then I was thinking
too that love is really about willing the absolute
best for someone else. That's what true love is. True love
means I want what's best for you
above all else. I you know? And I'm willing to serve, and I'm willing to

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sacrifice, and I'm willing to lay down my own desires in
order to help you experience your best life in Christ,
become the person you're made to be. So I think over 32 years, you'll learn
a lot about yourself. You'll learn a lot about what it takes to make relationships
go. You'll learn a lot about how to handle conflict and how to reconcile
that in such a way that you're better on the other side, that you're resilient.

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And listen, life is hard. Life is not easy. And if you
think it's easy, you haven't lived long enough. There's a lot of
challenges and obstacles that you're gonna face. And when you
have one key relationship that makes it for the
long haul, No one knows you better than that person,
and usually, that's when you stand in the corner of that

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person best over the long term.
Dan, how about you? How long have you been married? 34
years. I'm between both of you. We're all in the
thirties. Yes. Well, it's kinda I I I don't know why, but it's sort
of rare to and I wanna say this, Dan, and then I wanna get your
thoughts on this. We my wife and I are down

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here in Arizona. We're in a 55 and older community, and my wife and I
have had this conversation recently
about I don't I am
gosh. I wanna be sensitive in how I say this because some of these folks
listen in here. Many people on their second,
third, sometimes more marriages, they've

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got the complexity of children
in different situations, maybe children that get along
with their current spouse or children that don't get along.
And our my wife and I are extremely thankful, number 1, that we've stuck
with each other. There's been times that she has absolutely, without a

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doubt, stuck with me. But, anyway, I I do
think it makes it tougher the
more of these tight relationships that we have. And,
again, I don't only know how to address that, but it's been something I've been
thinking about. So, anyway, Dan, what kinda input,
advice, thoughts do you have related to

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this tight relationship, especially with the theme of
resilience? Well, I I remember
in college, I I went to a, marriage
marriage, pre marriage, relationship seminar put on. I
remember the guy said, that that, love is
spelled with a c, commitment.

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It's commitment. You know? And it's not a feeling. It's not an emotion.
It's it's literally love is a commitment. I I just remember that being foundational.
They're not to say that shouldn't have feelings and that type of thing, but it's
first that commitment. It's it's like, hey, divorce, not even an option.
You know, it's just it's off the table. It's not part of the language. And
just I remember in college here and there, obviously, I I had parents stayed together.

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They were model examples. Never saw divorce in my in
my own family. But I just remember that being a a
stake in the ground, Tim, just that that you spell
marriage with a c, it's commitment. And it stuck with me.
And and so I dated my wife 9 years. So actually, we've been
we've been together, married 34. Well, we've been in relationship

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for 43. So if you wanna talk about a long term relationship,
43 years, all the way through high school, all the way through college, 1 year
out of college, and then 34 years of marriage. They're in
any secrets. I mean, like, you know, I once heard Jim
Dobson say that the longer you're together, the more romance goes
out because there's no mystery. Like, it's just you know everything.

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You've experienced everything. We don't tell each other stories because we're
we were there. We were both there. You know, like you know, she goes, Oh,
it didn't happen that way. I'm like, Yeah, it did. Anyways, like, That's not good.
But but we're talking 43 years. So again, it's that
commitment thing. Like, it's not a feeling. It's not, hey,
things have changed, new seasons. We're you know, as Jimmy said, empty nest. We're open

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nest. Like, we have all of our kids out, and now we get to take
people in. You know, we get to receive people into our house, and we
just love it. We just love the fact of as a
a a a, you know, 3 married kids and now grandkids, but
we can be in a position as a couple,
after 43 years of just through the valley and through

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the mountain top. Being resilience is such a good
word to describe marriage. And and I'll say this. Jimmy and I
been together for 34 years. Like, right when I got married, got out of
college, started in ministry, Jimmy and I became friends.
And I'll say this, not only is is is resilience and commitment
key to maintain a marriage, which is rare these days,

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But you gotta have at least one warrior in your life. Like, I can't
tell you how many times if it's not weekly, Jimmy
I mean, we're talking like once a week. I'll call Jimmy
like, Jimmy, I the like, we just got in an argument. You
know? And you know what? Or he calls. He's like, I can't believe that
happened again. And I mean, it it it literally

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diffuses, literally diffuses
processing through that that, oh my gosh. Okay. I
I'm committed. I love her. We're committed to each other.
We're gonna make this happen. We're gonna reconcile. We're gonna
we're gonna make make it through this. And I just think
that at least one like you I can't imagine

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facing some stuff in my marriage and having no one outside of
my wife. Like like I don't like to have Jimmy to go to and
process and think through it. Like, even Jimmy said, we even have a guy, a
mentor of ours, this guy named Dan Webster that he
literally said during one of our weekly calls, one of our coaching mentoring
calls, he was, I never let my wife out serve me. Dude,

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that, like, that stuck to me. And and that has motivated
me, just that one line that Dan said to us, that Jimmy
said earlier, that has just spurred me on. And I'm not saying
to my wife, hey, by the way, my my mentor told me no one's gonna
outserve me. I'm just trying to live it, trying to do it,
and I just praise God for that. Jimmy, I

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believe that I heard somewhere that you and your wife had
to go through and listen, all of us have gone through difficult situations,
but there was a cancer situation that she had to deal with.
And what were some of the things that
y'all did leading up to that that made
you resilient through that specific

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situation? Yeah. Yeah. It's great.
Well, I think the interesting thing is my word for the year back in
2008 when Evolise was diagnosed with cancer was
love, and I thought I was doing great. You know, I had the
year of love. I was intentional. You know, I was thinking of what Dan said.
Love love absolutely is a commitment, but there's no question. If you don't have

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the feelings associated with it, the intimacy, you're in big trouble. There's
no question. And you have to be super intentional
about maintaining the emotional connection and about
clearing damage out so that you still love and admire and
cherish somebody. At that time, Tim, we were in the
throes of 4 kids on 4 different fields

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every day. The complexity of our lives in
those moments was incredible. All the kids were 13 and under, so we we had
our hands full. But my word for the year was love, and what I didn't
realize, I thought I was doing great. I was more intentional. But when she was
diagnosed with cancer, and you're really faced with very, very
bad odds of survival, very bad, single digit

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odds of surviving 2 years, it woke me up in a way of,
like, wow. You know? I can't remember the last time we made eye contact. I
can't remember the last time that I held your hand and we went for a
walk. And it really shook me up actually, and and it changed my
behavior right away right away because I was gonna cherish those
moments regardless of whether it was 1 year or 2 years or or

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22 years. And here we sit, you know, 15 years later,
having navigated that, she's been cancer free for most of that. This past
year, she had another early diagnosed bat battle with
with ovarian cancer. So that's all taken care of. She's
completely healthy, and it's amazing. But I think I think,
you know, hardship is gonna do one of 2 things.

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You're either it's either gonna drive you apart. It's gonna be a separator.
It's gonna it's gonna tear down whatever you have, whatever that
relationship is, or it's gonna bring you together.
And so for us, it was a coming together. You know, it was a
coming together. It was realizing, boy, whatever time we have left is a gift, and
we're gonna take advantage of it. And to be honest, you know, it's been 15

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years. The normality of life comes back. You
get through these challenging times, and a lot of times you forget
about the most important things again, and you have to be reminded of
it again and again. So I would say, you know, in our particular case, that
adversity brought us together. It forged some things in our
marriage, in our relationship that I'm so grateful for. It forged a

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bunch of things for both of us as parents and in our relationship with
our kids. Our kids' lives are gonna be marked by those
seasons, And they're gonna have a confidence in our family, a confidence in
God, and what he's capable of doing. And, I would say all of those
things go into forging that relationship in a way
that it makes it stronger in the long haul. Yeah. That's

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good. Dan, I wanted to follow-up with you, but I wanna preface this
with a bit of context. We are
all in the leadership space, and in our audience,
it would probably call themselves in the leadership space and also
layer in faith with it and the business and ministry and things like
that. One of the things that we continually see

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that is disappointing are people that we would put in
leadership positions that have
situations where they don't hold that marriage
relationship strong. And a lot of
times, it happens when maybe there's wedges or
adversity that's come in as Jimmy brought up. But one of the things

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I've noticed is when there are I hate to use the
word temptations because I don't even think that captures it, but, you
know, I know that you with FCA have gotten on an
airplane and flown a lot of places all over the world. You've stood up in
front of groups. And just just to give context for
those people listening to audio, we might be

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mature, these 3 men here, but we are a good looking,
mature 3 dudes here. Not that
that makes this a better or worse conversation here,
but there's always opportunity for weakness, for
temptation, and things like that. Dan,
if how do we stay strong?

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How do we not put out the vibes
that, you know, I'm open or closed
for business when you're on airplanes, when you're up in front of groups, when
you're around college age people like you have? And I may get
some input from Jimmy on this too because I think this is a very
important topic, so and you could go any

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direction you want to with this. I just wanted to kind of preface, how do
we stay strong? Tim, I would say by the grace of
God, there goes I. Right? I mean, we've heard that. I I think
we're all wearing the t shirts. You know, we see men of God that we
think are, like, way above us, and they're crashing and
burning. So by the grace of God, you know, there goes I. Like,

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just thank you, Lord, every day for the grace. You know, the grace is
for the is for the broken and the hurt and and and for the
ones that are just willing to submit and say, Lord, I'm all yours and be
a living sacrifice. You know, Tim, I think,
think, you know, it it's a
constant thing that leaders are being taken down,

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and they are getting crushed every step of the
way. And, you know, I remember
that my pastor, the church I grew up in, 9 years,
he was my pastor. I'm in ministry today because of him.
He baptized me. He baptized my wife, baptized my whole
family, married us, did our marriage counseling.

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And a year after he married us, he went off with his secretary.
You know? And I'm like I looked at Don, and I'm like,
if he if he can't do it, we can't do it. Like, there's
no way. We have no hope. Like, 0. Like, 0.
So my mom's like, oh, we got a great Christian counselor. Go to him. So

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we went to go see Omar. We went to him for a year year and
a half. And really felt like God gave us some language, some terminologies.
First time we're in counseling, processing through some of her
background for the broken family and some of my background.
Found out later he ran off with a client.
I'm like, maybe it's us. Maybe it's Yeah. Like, what

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the heck is going on? I like, the Christian
counselor that that that's in it full time, our our pastor of a
megachurch in the DC area. Anyways, I I just
think at that point, Tim, we realize
we had to have brutal honesty. So again, my wife and I, we fight like
cats and dogs. We put everything on the table. You know, we don't bury

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nothing. No, I wish sometimes we buried stuff. Every once in a while, I'm
like, Hun, can we just put that under the table? But, you know, I you
know, just like we come together and we deal with it. We close the
gap. We punch awkward in the face. Whatever phrase you wanna say,
we deal with the crap on the table.
And I don't like that all the time. Like, I I just sometimes

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wish I'd just put my head in the sand and don't deal with it.
But but we it's always on the table. We're always dealing with it. It's
always fresh. And we're, you know, obviously
again, like I said with with even with Jimmy, like, I I would
I I I've shared so much confess to Jimmy,
like, I thought this or, hey, I was here or like,

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if I'm in the airport, I'm going, I'm gonna have to tell Jimmy about this.
You know, like like, that's gonna be a reality. And we have
shared and confided of and praise God, we we God has
protected us. God has spared us. God has extended his
grace upon us. But that doesn't mean that that we we've
gotten really close and and and something happened. And then

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guess what though? Instead of bearing it, I'm sharing it with
Jimmy. I'm putting it on the table as my warrior, my accountability
partner, and asking the tough questions and knowing I'm gonna be accountable to
him when I come back from the trip. And so I I just
think, Tim, you know, what I saw within my own life early
on, I saw, you know, the idea like,

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you know, hey, it's by the grace of God, there goes I. You gotta have
another warrior in your life to be able to, you know, confide in and be
able to share with. But also just that we're putting stuff on the table.
We we are literally closing the gap daily. Like,
daily. And not letting the sun go down on our ankle
or our issues. So that's what I would say. Yeah. That's good.

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Jimmy, any practices, habits, or anything that you
wanna add to that that's helpful? Yeah. I was just thinking, man, You
know, Evolisa and I made decisions very, very early in our marriage, I would say
from day 1. We had very specific, guardrails
in our lives, very specific decisions that we made that would help us
to avoid situations. Because, really, most sin is just

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a sin of opportunity. You know? An opportunity presents you when your
guard is down. Maybe you're tired, you're hungry, you're whatever.
And if you haven't made the decision in advance about how you're
gonna handle a situation, you're you're probably in
trouble. So we made decisions early on. We were people made fun of
us. Like, oh, you won't ride in a car 1 on 1 with a

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woman? No. I won't. So we would literally go from
where my workplace to a meeting in separate cars, and people were
like, are you okay? And I'm like, yeah. I actually wanna keep it that way.
I've made certain commitments to my wife, and she's made certain commitments to
me so that we know we have certainty of trust, And, you
know, human beings need certainty, and especially in relationships. So we

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set these guardrails. And I would say another thing that really trips up men
probably much more than women is alcohol. And, you know, every
single drink of alcohol that you make, especially in a an anonymous
situation when you're on the road, lowers your resistance
to making good decisions. You will increasingly every single
drink is gonna lead to a decision that you're probably not so proud of.

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So I talk about, you know, hey. Listen. Yeah. It doesn't mean you never drink
alcohol, but I think you certainly should reevaluate when you drink alcohol and if
it's putting you in a compromising situation. Lots of people make
very, very bad decisions when they're under the influence of alcohol.
So we set very specific guidelines. It's the Billy Graham rule. Tim,
it's the Billy Graham rule. Billy Graham never traveled alone. Why?

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Because he needed someone there to protect him against attacks of the enemy. And you
know what? His marriage lasted with purity. Today, I would love
it if our pastors would make that rule. They have the same rule.
And they should set up these these guardrails that are really healthy because
you know this. God establishes guardrails not to,
not to restrict us and take the joy out of life, but the very

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opposite to give us freedom to protect us from
stupid decisions. And within those boundaries, you have
absolute incredible freedom, and that's where you experience
life. A life where you're not weighed down by the regrets and mistakes of the
past. It's not perfect, but it sure does help. Yeah. I think
that's good. I I I just had something pop into my head. More alcoholic was

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less resiliency, by the way. And and, again, I I
enjoy a sip of whiskey and all every once in a while, but it's with
my wife. I actually had a business trip recently. I was gone close to a
week, and there are times that with the client, we'll have a sip of
something. We actually decided, both of us, no alcohol during the
entire trip. I had my energy level, decision making.

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Yes. You know, I'm 61. I'm kinda watching that energy level now,
making sure I've got what I need to bring to the table with the people
I interact with. So I do believe that's powerful. We could
probably do a full seminar on just this topic. Yes. I
wanna move on, though, because I wanna get to some daily habits,
especially specifically wisdom for men with the book. But

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one other item that to me is fascinating as I was
kinda just learning more about you 2 was the thing that I think Dan just
brought up. Maybe both of y'all brought it up. And that's the fact that I
think y'all's relationship goes back, you know, to 1990.
And I do think that's rare in the world we're in today that
that people, much less men, have relationship. And,

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Dan, I guess, talk more about it. I mean, is it is it a
friendship? Is there a covenant there? Is it a partnership? I mean,
y'all have written 9 plus books together.
You've written this journal, you know, this devotional together.
Talk about how you define it, but give me more
info on this relationship between you and Jimmy, Dan.

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It is unfortunately, right, Tim, should be normal
in in in the church. You know? But it's rare. I
mean, I I feel we we and by the way, we we thank the
Lord almost daily that God has allowed us. And we don't
take it for granted. That's that's for sure. But, you
know, Jim, I I just come on staff with FCA

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in 1990. Virginia Tech, he was a
grad student down there and was a part of leadership, and they invited you
know, I was playing pro lacrosse at the time. And they invited me to come
down and and speak and, you know, they had a big group and
spoke. And I'd never met Jimmy, and he beelined after for me. And he's like,
I'm moving to Northern Virginia. I got a job,

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job we need to connect, and met his girlfriend at the time. It became his
wife, Ivelisse. And, anyways, it just was it
was awesome. Like so then he came to Northern Virginia, and then we connected. And
and then I had 2 buddies that I met separately that one
was in from college, John Patton, and the other one was Scott Steiner that met
at a NFL, fundraiser.

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And they needed to be roommates, so the 3 of them came together. I
got married, and we were getting together for accountability
every Friday morning, Tim. And and we would spend 2
hours, the 4 of us, you know, John, Jimmy, Scott, and Dan,
would spend 2 hours. We probably drank, what, Jimmy, 3 or 4
pots of coffee, Probably a pot of coffee each. We weren't sure if we were

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high on coffee or high on the Holy Spirit. It was one of those 2.
Might have a combination, but it was powerful. Like, we confessed
sin, we had tears, we prayed over.
Little legalistic. If you didn't read your Bible, you had to put $5 in the
jug. If you said something wrong, put $5 in the jug. If you looked at
something wrong, put $5. So there's a lot of money in the jug because we

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were young and and right out of the gate. But, really, we we created a
name, Tim. We said the 4 horsemen. We have a text group, and and Jimmy.
Right? Yesterday, we probably texted each other 20, 30 times yesterday, the
4 of us. Here we are, 34 years later, we're all over the
US, not in a a city. We come together for
the 4 horsemen retreat. And, you know, Jimmy

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and I obviously have written 9 books together. We wanna write 30 together.
We have this vision of doing life together in that way. You know, I just
went through I transitioned out of FCA in August after
34 years, and it was a very difficult time that that
it was hard to release, but it was good. God was opening the door. God
was closing the door. And, man, it just was hard with 3 months

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sabbatical during the summer. And guess what? I talked to Jimmy
every day, probably once or twice, maybe three times, to
to get through that time so my heart was right, my mind was
clear, and I could process things. And and you know what? Jimmy was
Jimmy was my horseman. Jimmy was my warrior. 34
years. Now it's not perfect. We get upset. We hang up on each other.

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We, you know, sometimes call each other out on things. But but that
is a 3 AM friend. Someone that you could call at
3 AM, Jimmy's gonna get in the car, drive from Colorado,
and Mhmm. Rescue me or or kidnap
me, pull me out of something. And and that's the beauty of it. It's not
just like, would he be in the trenches with you? I'm like, I'm like, no.

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I got other guys to be in the trenches. Like, this is different. This is
completely different. And that's what God has put together,
not only with with Jimmy, but also we have 2 other guys, John and Scott.
But amazing to journey together. You know, we say iron
sharpens iron. Right? I believe wisdom
sharpens, foolishness dulls. And, unfortunately,

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I think a lot of times, I see men, and they're like, they're
not sharpening each other. They're dulling each other. They're lowering the
ball bar. They're not leveling up as Jimmy said earlier. That's what wisdom
does. Wisdom always levels up. Foolishness always dulls
and levels down. And that's what we have with the 4 horsemen.
Jimmy, you wanna add anything to that? Yeah. I was just thinking in the early

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days, it was really more about accountability, you know, as
young men. And I think I I don't think that lasts very long, to be
honest with you, because then it just becomes a game of gotcha, and then guys
end up hiding stuff. And it's a whole bunch of nonsense. And that's why I
think actually accountability groups are not working very well if you look at
the polls from Gallup. But what does work is when you have a positive

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vision for your life and you share it with these group of
warriors. It it really is about driving towards the future that
you want rather than avoiding the sin. I mean, good grief.
Really? That's my whole life's gonna be about avoiding sin? Nonsense.
God has has promised us when we follow Christ, when we abide in him, he
promised us abundant life, an abundant life of freedom.

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So when you when you create that vision that you want for your marriage and
you start moving in that direction, you start having some success.
But if you share that with your brothers, like Dan and John and
Scott for me, all of a sudden, they're they're kinda fanning the flames
so that you do achieve the vision that you set for yourself
with your personal health, with with your impact at in

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work, with your energy levels, like you talked about, Tim,
energy. I I talked for 15 minutes this morning about energy
and how it impacts everything else. Taking care of your soul,
and, okay, what is the vision that I have for my life? So I would
just say that that's much more important. When I moved from the
East Coast to Colorado several years ago, we went from

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a community where we were known and we knew people. We knew
everybody and we were known. We came to a town where we knew no one
and no one knew us. And the danger of that and that's why these
warrior relationships are so important. The danger of anonymity
of being in a a town where you're not known and where there's no
expectation about your behavior is you kinda feel like you can

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do anything you want. And that's when you fall into patterns that are
destructive. When you have these men in your life, if they
have those 3 or 4 sisters in their life that are helping them
advance toward their best life in Christ, that's where it really
makes the biggest difference. Mhmm. I
I really like that because I do agree accountability, sometimes even just what

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we'll call a bible study group. Yep. You know, you hate to say
this as somebody's probably gonna be critical. They don't have that
strength, that that cord,
that resilience to kinda tie in with our theme Yeah.
That one needs. So Yeah. I I'm very
impressed with that. Yeah. You know, guys, one of the

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themes that we started this show on now going
on 5 plus years ago, almost 300 episodes,
is that culture
we don't define success in the way that culture
does. We need to redefine what success is. And I
was reading in in the daily wisdom this morning. It wasn't

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the one for today, but there was something about legacy. And there was
a couple of things related to that in the I was scanning a few of
these. Dan, I'm a throw it to you first because this is
kind of the big question we like to ask here on the show, and then
we got a couple things we wanna talk about in the book.
How should we be defining success? We've talked about faith. We've talked about resilience.

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We've talked about relationships. Either how do you or how
should we be defining success at this stage
of of where we're at? Great. Great question. How do you
define success, and how do you know if you're if you're winning? Right?
As the editors and sports minded people, like, we wanna win. Right?
Pickleball, you said you love pickleball. You know, I love pickleball, but I

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wanna win. You know, it's it's still still a competition.
You know, Tim, you know, Jim and I wrote a a a book called,
obviously, One Word we talked about, but we also wrote a book called Lifeword.
And Lifeword, is about legacy. One word is
about life transformation.
Lifeword is is is really the title of your

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book, and in one word is the chapters of each of the
years. So we're finishing up chapter 2024,
which will close, and that story is gonna be done here in the next,
several, days. In 25, we open a new chapter.
Right? And that'd be a new chapter in in the book. And I
believe, Tim, that that, winning

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success is defined by legacy. And
legacy isn't defined we would Jimmy and I like to
define legacy not of what you leave behind. I left behind a building, it
has a name on it. Hey, I left behind money for my kids.
Left behind a business. It's it's like, oh, what we left behind.
It's actually a little bit different. It's what we left behind what we leave behind

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that lives on in others. And and I
believe, we believe that it's it's wisdom in
life transformation fused into relationships that lives on
beyond us. In her book, Wisdom Walks, we we talk about,
which we we love. It's a old it's our old very first book. But wisdom
walks, it says true fruit grows on other people's

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tree. That's legacy. It's not about like, hey, look at all the
fruit I'm doing. Like people go, oh, I want to be a fruit expert. Let's
see if you're producing any fruit. Well, I hope if you're a body in Christ
that you have fruit to show. Like, holy cow. What are you doing? What kind
of man of God are you if you don't have any fruit to show? K?
Mhmm. Like, check. Like like, yeah, I'm showing fruit daily, not the end of my

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life, like now. Okay. Well, what else? Well, I
want fruit to show up on other people's tree. I'm having that kind of
impact and that kind of influence of legacy that it's
what lives on in others. My dad passed away in 2008. And
guess what? His legacy's living on in me. The best way
to honor him isn't to moan and complain, soak

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and sour, but but to literally live every day the way my
dad will want me. Well, that's legacy. His DNA, his
life transformation is living in me every day. So I believe,
Tim, that that that is truly success.
That is winning when we say we're we're passing we
we we say live intentionally, maximize relationships,

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and pass the torch. Right? Most of us live haphazardly,
not intentionally. Most of us marginalize relationships or manage
relationships, we don't maximize them. What does it look like show up every day to
maximize? And what's it look like not to drop the torch, but to
pass the torch to the next generation? That's winning
that success. How do you define success, Jimmy? Oh my

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gosh. This is so great because I think the older I get, the more I
realize it's not about me. Even the concept
of legacy is tends to be self centered.
It's actually a little disgusting if you really think about it.
What's my legacy gonna be? Wow. Really? I'm not sure that's
anywhere in the Bible. I think the key to this, and I love what Dan

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said, it's what lives on in others. For me,
success is all about living in such a way and loving
others in such a way that people discover God
and Christ. It it it really has nothing to do with me.
And if if people are remembering me, then I've failed.
You know, you talk about Jesus even said, father, let them be 1

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as you and I are 1 so that people will believe
that they will see God out of the way we're united. So the whole
point of me living in a certain way or loving a certain
way is to draw attention to Jesus. So as a man of God, I
can't be successful if my life isn't drawing other
people's attention to Christ. Not just the way I do life, not

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just the rules that I follow, but instead about the person of
Christ. So for me, legacy, I hope it's not about me because
no one's gonna remember you. I mean, statistically, no one beyond 2
generations is gonna remember you. My grandkids will
be the last generation that remembers me, but what I hope
they do is I hope they're walking in a tight relationship with Christ.

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Real legacy is leaving a godly legacy rather than a a a legacy about
me. One of the things that I heard recently,
guys, was that sales of
Bibles had gone through the roof. I don't have the exact
numbers, and I don't have the article. Wow. But my interpretation
of that is that people are not necessarily looking for more

(54:54):
religion or more places to go because church attendance is some in
many ways going down. But in in my mind,
that told me that people are seeking some personal
relationship. It's my belief that
daily devotionals is part of that
equation. Is that some is

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that part of what devotions do for us when you're writing your book? I'm
holding it up for those that are watching. Your daily wisdom for men
is creating that relationship daily. Dan, what are
your thoughts on that? Yes. The hope is a 100%
amen, high five. We we you know, what our
as Jimmy said, our words are nothing. Like, you know, part of it is is

(55:38):
just you know, if we're just babbling on and creating
extracurricular content and additional
content, it just it I it it that's
not the point. Our goal is to point to scripture. Like
when Jimmy and I speak, we don't help people come up and say, you did
great. We hope people say Jesus is good. You know, if they

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they compliment us, it's like, maybe I did something wrong. There's too much attention
on me. I needed to point toward Jesus. And the
same way with the daily wisdom for men is just we wanna point
people to God's word. We believe God's word will never
return void. Men are not getting their face in the book.
Mature Christians our age are are slipping. The sin of

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maturity, like, hey, I don't need to grow anymore. I just read one of our
devotions just the other day about that. The the point is we got
to point people to the word of God. And my dad
would always say the 3 d's of devotions, drudgery, discipline,
and delight. You know, it starts out as drudgery, like you're eating bark. I don't
know. It's not too fun, but you're just gonna do it. You know it's gonna

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pay his price. Do that long enough, he would say, turns into a discipline. It's
the way I am. It's just every day. It's part of my lifestyle. It's like
breathing. It's a discipline. Then he'd get a big smile on his face and get
up. But then Danny, when it turns into a delight, is that's when
I long to be with my savior. And that's the thing. Some days it's
drudgery, some days it's discipline. And I'm praying for more days of

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delight. But that's the key is just we believe, Jimmy and I
believe, that that yes, our words hopefully are a conduit.
Our our words are a bridge to be able to connect people to
the word of God, the transforming power of the word of God
so that they get their face in the book. They're getting transformed by the word
of God, and this, we believe, is the key. And, you know, our verse

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on the back, we love the verse in the back. First Corinthians 16 13
was really the the the motive behind it says simply,
be on the alert. Right? Like, men, be on the alert. Have your head on
a swivel. Stand firm in the faith. That's what we've been talking about. And this
is the best part, act like men. Act like men, Tim. One of the
translations is be ye mainly. I like that translation.

(57:51):
Be ye mainly. That's a good t shirt. And then it ends with,
Be strong. And that's when Paul says, Grow up,
mature, act like men, live like men. Get your face in the
book and say, Yes. I praise God the Bible sales are up. I know the
YouVersion Bible app is blowing up. And we've just seen
God doing exciting things with His word all these

(58:13):
years. Right. Jimmy, first of all, I
do wanna say it's a beautiful book. When it first came in, I
was, like, going, wow. This is nice, bound.
So I guess Broadstreet, y'all's partner there. I mean, that that,
great job on that. It feels great, everything about it, and
going back to a word we had earlier, there's a simplicity

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to that daily reading. I've been able to read through a few, and I like
that. But, Jimmy, quick question on it. Going back to the theme of
the show, resilience, how important is
daily devotion to building and being a resilient
man or resilient person? Yeah. It's essential. You
know, I think, you know, whenever you become if you don't do your daily

(58:57):
devotions, you become disconnected from the source of all life. So
if you just think in terms of you couldn't survive you couldn't survive
a couple of days. I guess it's maybe 3 days without water.
You can't survive 3 minutes without air. And so, you
know, you shouldn't be trying to survive very long without
spiritual connection and nourishment. You know? So I I think the biggest

(59:20):
thing is funny. I think this the idea that bible sales are up is great.
Maybe it's the Trump bible. Maybe that's what maybe that's the thing. Right?
That's it's a joke for the audience right there. The biggest gap
we have in the world is the gap between knowing and
doing. It's knowing and doing. And so we
it's not a lack of knowledge. In fact, it's not even a lack of necessarily

(59:43):
reading the Bible, although studies would show that very few people are reading the
Bible. What we try to do with the devotional is create
parable stories like Jesus did. He taught through real life
parables right now. Hey. What's going on? Life experience, and then he would bring the
principle. Parables always led to the principle for life.
That's what the devotion does. It's modern day language. It it

(01:00:05):
relates specifically to what men are experiencing right now,
and then it points you to the biblical truth, which you can build your life
on. You're not gonna build it on my story. You're not gonna build it on
Dan's story, but you can build it on the word of God. So that daily
devotion, hopefully, this is gonna inspire men to it's gonna relate
to men for sure in every single way. Hopefully, it's gonna inspire men

(01:00:26):
to learn the scripture and build their life on those principles.
I've got one more question for each of you, but I I I guess they
could find that anywhere, Amazon. Where where do you wanna
direct people to get to get the book? Yep.
Amazon, Barnes and Noble, it's it's in every outlet. Broadstreet
did an amazing job not only with the production of it, but the

(01:00:48):
distribution. It's in every outlet online, your favorite
place to go to get books, either retail place or by
by web online, you can do it. So yes. Good.
And if you're willing to Amazon or wherever you buy it, make sure you leave
a 5 star rating because you've number 1, you're gonna love it. And number 2,
you're gonna wanna give it to your brothers in Christ, and you're gonna wanna give

(01:01:09):
it to your family and your dads and your sons and all of that. So,
yeah, make sure you leave us a review. I'm actually
considering gifting some myself on this, so good job
on that. We'll include a link down in the show notes that goes to
Amazon that any other places that if somebody wants to
connect with you guys that they may wanna jump to that y'all wanna share here

(01:01:31):
before my final question? Yeah. I I
think, you know, again, I have social media at FCA,
Dan, which I got, you know, I'm
pretty active on that. LinkedIn, Facebook. But
also, email, you know, dan@sportslifeleadership.com.
Love to engage with people. I love to, get

(01:01:54):
them involved in ministry, sports ministry, leadership. It's all that's what it's all
about. The same way. Jimmy at be
unstoppable dot live, and my website's be
unstoppable dot live. It's the easiest way to do it. And I think
also the YouVersion Bible app is a great way to connect with
some of our writings. We've got a number of reading plans

(01:02:16):
on the YouVersion app. Just search for Dan or me, and those will come
up and journey with us, there as well.
I appreciate all that you guys are doing and love the conversation.
We are recording this towards the tail end of 2024. It's probably
gonna be released in early 2025. I'm gonna
ask each one of you, maybe starting with you, Jimmy, and

(01:02:38):
then Dan, to just look in the camera
and give either encouragement or tips or
whatever's on your heart, whatever the holy spirit might lead you to people
that are preparing and getting ready for 2025. I believe
it's going to be a phenomenal year for many people. I think there's gonna be
some challenges, but there's gonna be a lot of opportunity for

(01:03:00):
people that are diving into some of the things we've talked about right
here. Jimmy, what do you wanna share with people as they lean in and
begin 2025? Yeah. I think the most important
thing is to remember that this is about progress, not
perfection. A lot of people get tripped up because they feel like they've
failed, especially with any resolutions they've ever done. That's why

(01:03:21):
we scrapped resolutions and went to the single word. I would encourage every
man listening to this podcast to select a
one word theme for the year and drive towards life
transformation through that word. It'll change you mentally,
emotionally, physically, even your relationships and your finances.
So simplify things down, pick that word for the year, and

(01:03:43):
remember, this is about progress. You know, life is the playing
the long game. Don't get tripped up on your failures. Learn from
them. Turn back, and and stay on track.
Alright, Dan. How about you? Well, that's, that's good. Jimmy,
I'm ready to roll. 2025, here we come. Thank
you. 2025

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is a clean slate. Brand new year.
Blue sky, blue ocean, just opportunity
abounds. So we just closed up 2024.
So how did 2024 end up? The choices and decisions you
made either put you on a road to reward or a road to regret.

(01:04:27):
You know, you're either glad 2024 is over, like,
woah, that was a tough year. Close the door. I never wanna go there
again. Some of you are sad because actually it was a good year. Like,
wow, 2024 was God did some amazing things and and and
I'm kind of sad to see 2024. But really when it comes
down to it, is the story that we're gonna tell at the end of

(01:04:49):
2025. So fast forward, we're at the end of 2025.
What story do you wanna tell about 2025? It's
gonna come down to the decisions and choices you make. Not
things happen to you. Yes, some things are out of your control. But the
decisions and choices you make will be the
stories we tell tomorrow. Because the

(01:05:12):
stories we're telling today are the ones the decisions that we
made yesterday. So the question is, today,
2025, what decisions and choices are you
gonna make so that when you
get to the end of the year, what story do you wanna tell because of
how you live that life and how you gave yourself

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to be the person that God's called you to be? That's the key.
Excellent. Dan and Jimmy, thank you so much.
I appreciate, number 1, the conversation. This has been great.
But I appreciate really the model that y'all are providing an example of,
the things we discussed here, the model of just relationship between the 2 of

(01:05:56):
you, the model of marriage, the model of just
being resilient. Love that theme that developed. I
highly encourage everyone listening to get a copy of Daily
Wisdom For Men, probably multiple, so that you could share them and gift
them. Because I could tell you when you touch them, you're gonna wanna give people
this. It actually feels really, really good. So there'll be links. If you're

(01:06:18):
on YouTube or listen to podcast platforms, go click that. Get a
copy, and as Jimmy said, leave a review. I appreciate all of you
that have been listening in. This has been a great, great episode. I hope it's
been encouraging to you. Until next time, continue
being all that you were created to be.

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