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August 27, 2025 58 mins

Seek Your Summit with Jenn Drummond welcomes Dr. Wendy Troxel, a leading sleep scientist, to unpack how sleep drives resilience, relationships, and performance. You will learn why “sleep divorce” can save a marriage, how early school start times harm teens, and why America’s sleep crisis costs an estimated $411B each year. Practical, science-backed tactics for couples, parents, and high performers included.

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GUEST
Dr. Wendy Troxel, Clinical Psychologist and Sleep Scientist
Author: “Sharing the Covers: Every Couple’s Guide to Better Sleep”
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drwendytroxel/?hl=en

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HOST
Jenn Drummond, World Record Mountaineer
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejenndrummond/


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KEY TAKEAWAYS
• Sleep regularity often beats raw hours for long-term health
• Standing while using your phone in the bedroom reduces doom-scrolling
• Sleeping apart can strengthen connection for some couples
• Teen circadian clocks shift by about 2 hours, so 6:30 am feels like 4:30 am
• Exercise is the strongest stress reducer for better sleep
• Melatonin is a body clock shifter, not a standard sleep aid
• Small gains like 30 extra minutes of sleep can move the economy in big ways
• Protect the bedroom as calm territory, not a conflict zone

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
00:36 Military couples and sleep
08:42 Early signs you are sleep deprived
11:41 Ending the 6-hour badge of honor
17:42 When sleeping apart helps and why it is okay
25:36 The weekend catch-up sleep myth
32:36 Melatonin guidance for parents
36:36 Dr. Troxel’s non-negotiables for great sleep
41:36 How sleep links to sex and intimacy
43:53 The teen sleep crisis and school start times
49:36 The 411B dollar cost of poor sleep in the U.S.
53:30 Building a sleep-first company culture


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