January 9, 2024 • 43 mins
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Ever wondered how the icy reaches of Antarctica could become a hub of digital connectivity? That's exactly what happened when we teamed up with SpaceX to introduce Starlink to the frozen landscape, creating a record-breaking leap in communication that's as groundbreaking as it is life-saving. As we unpack this historic moment, you'll discover the ripple effect of improved safety and solidarity among the close-knit community of explorers at the Union Glacier camp. But our chat doesn't stop at the edge of the world; we also traverse the human mind, discussing the transformation that occurs when we dare to step outside our comfort zones—whether that's bearcrawling marathons or indulging in the freedom of global adventures.
Submerging oneself in icy water might sound like a special kind of torture, yet it's here, in the heart of the cold plunge, that we unearth some of the most exhilarating benefits for mental health and community building. I'll share my personal tales of embracing the chill and how such a seemingly small habit can align your day for success while knitting tighter social bonds. And as we touch on the importance of vitamin D from the morning sun, and the surprising effects a special yogurt strain has had on my hometown, you'll be inspired to consider the daily rituals that contribute to your overall wellness.
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Devon (00:00):
It brings the other community and that's one thing
that you know, I think a lot ofus forget keeps us young.
It's one of the main pillars ofthe blue zones, and longevity
is community.
Prue Aja (00:13):
Welcome to the scene and herd podcast, helping you
enhance your connection, evolveyour mindset and emerge
confidently as your true self,living a life feeling aligned,
activated and energized.
I'm your host, pruhajainternational photographer,
motivational speaker andalignment strategist.
Every day just gets better.
Devon (00:38):
I wouldn't mind if we extended another day.
Prue Aja (00:40):
Yeah, I don't mind, because I feel like now there's
nothing on the schedule.
Yeah, actually, just time wecan catch up on sleep and we can
chill out.
Yeah, it would be great, andI'm so happy the sun's out
because I want to go and do someportraits after this.
I heard a rumor, though, aboutyou on the boat, that you came
here and you climbed a mountainand put a star link in.
Devon (01:03):
Yes.
Prue Aja (01:04):
Is that true?
Devon (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, what in January?
This year 12, 11 months ago.
Prue Aja (01:09):
Oh my God, 12 months ago.
How did you know where to putit?
Devon (01:14):
So we're on right now, right, we're good, yeah, yeah,
we're on.
Okay, cool we, there's anotherwhale.
Prue Aja (01:19):
Anyways, I'll stop.
We're just sitting here lookingat the most spectacular view in
the world and a whale justdoing a little show.
Devon (01:25):
The whale is literally giving us a show.
So in December I was approachedby some people at SpaceX to
help With an expedition and it'sto bring awareness to Star
Lincoln how it can be used inthe most remote areas in the
world, and they knew I wasclimbing Mount Vincent at the
time.
I'm in the middle of climbingthe highest point of each
(01:45):
continent, so I finished.
Africa, south America andArtica was number three, and I
actually leave for Mount Everestin four months, on April 14th.
Some of that, and so Antarctica.
Prue Aja (01:58):
I've never been.
It's not rubbing on your yeah,yeah.
Devon (02:00):
And Antarctica Was, you know, next stop, and that was
this past January and when theyapproached me, there has never
been like Wi-Fi on thiscontinent.
There's never been like youwere never able to FaceTime or
live stream from the continent.
Even Mr Beast, who's thebiggest, he has the biggest
(02:22):
YouTube following in the worldhe was there two weeks prior and
he didn't have service Like hedidn't even have access to it,
and so we brought the Starlinkdown and and we set it up.
I didn't physically set it up.
My buddy, Tyler Carnavali, whoworked at SpaceX at the time
he's the one that actually didthe backend system with this
(02:43):
other guy, Dutch, to connect,because you know, the Starlink
satellite in the in the air,like in the.
Prue Aja (02:50):
I was going to say what does it physically look
like?
Devon (02:52):
It's a regular Starlink, it's.
You know, it looks like a.
Prue Aja (02:54):
I don't know.
It looks like a satellite.
Devon (02:56):
Ok, right and so it's about I don't know.
I want to say about three feetby one and a half OK, you know,
not that big.
And so we set them up and we've, we brought the first ever
Wi-Fi to the continent.
Prue Aja (03:09):
Do you get a world record for that?
Devon (03:11):
Yes, you do yes, yeah, and we did the first ever live
stream from the top ofAntarctica, mount Vincent.
It's never been done.
Wow, yeah, I FaceTime my mom, IFaceTime a couple of friends.
Prue Aja (03:21):
That's insane From the top of the continent.
Devon (03:23):
I was.
Yeah, I have to show you thevideo at some point, but it's,
oh my God.
Prue Aja (03:26):
I'll share a link to the video in the show notes.
Devon (03:28):
Yeah, it's like that.
Prue Aja (03:32):
Oh is your face got icicles on it.
Devon (03:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Prue Aja (03:38):
It's SpaceX.
Devon (03:40):
Starlink Savage Tyler over here that made this all
happen.
This is the first ever lot everlive stream from the top.
Yeah, so that was the firstever live stream.
So we did that in January,brought all the equipment up now
with Union Glacier, which isthe main camp in Antarctica,
like for when people come in andclimb and do expeditions.
(04:01):
They all have Starlink, so I'vebeen talking to a couple of the
guides and mountaineers thatare over there right now, and
this year it's the first timethat's live for everyone.
And so now they're, they can tax, they can, they can communicate
their safety on the mountain.
Prue Aja (04:14):
So now, it's saving lives, yeah.
Devon (04:16):
Each, each, each camp on Vincent has Starlink, which is
really cool.
Prue Aja (04:20):
That's incredible.
So that's on the mainland.
Devon (04:22):
That's mainland and but also even the Starlink on this
ship right now is connected towhat.
What we set up because you canhave the satellite, but if it
doesn't talk to the satellite inthe sky, then it's useless.
Prue Aja (04:34):
Right.
Devon (04:34):
And so you have to connect those two parts.
Prue Aja (04:36):
Yeah.
Devon (04:36):
And so, by connecting it, what we did in January, now
this continent has Wi-Fi.
Prue Aja (04:42):
So the hot that one Starlink has access to the whole
not the one yet and it's nothow it works.
So it's there's two systems, soI'm just going to check that
this isn't like rubbing againstyour chest.
Let's put it.
Oh, you didn't have to put itthrough your shirt.
Devon (04:57):
Oh, that's so good, you just do it.
There you go it.
No, not that one All of them,so that one can only have a
certain bandwidth, right?
Yeah, just like this.
We, I think we have two on thisship, so that's good for this
ship, but if I was on, you know,you know 100 yards, that way I
wouldn't be able to connect.
Prue Aja (05:16):
Yes, ok, but.
Devon (05:18):
By connecting it on the back end system.
That allows this to even work.
Prue Aja (05:24):
That means that's because it kind of creates a
grid, maybe Correct.
They like bounce at each other.
Devon (05:29):
Yeah, actually it looks exactly like a grid.
If you looked at the map on theback end system, antarctica was
just blank, nothing, there wasno satellites talking to each
other.
Wow, now satellites can talk toeach other because of you,
because of what we did, yeah.
Prue Aja (05:43):
That's incredible.
Devon (05:44):
It was really cool.
Prue Aja (05:45):
How many times have you been to Antarctica?
Devon (05:47):
This is just the second time.
Prue Aja (05:49):
OK.
Devon (05:49):
Yeah.
Prue Aja (05:50):
So what inspired you to do that the first time, like
the first time here, and you'relike that's what I'm going to go
and do?
Devon (05:56):
Um Well, I think you know I'm doing the 7th Summit, so
I'm climbing the highest pointof each continent.
So you wanted to be preparedRight, and what inspired that
was.
In 2020, I did the New YorkCity Marathon, but I didn't run
it, I didn't walk it, Ibearcrawled the whole thing, so
on all fours.
And so I did that in 20 hoursand 48 minutes, and that set a
(06:18):
world record, and we raised aton of money for suicide
prevention and mental health.
Wow, veterans in the UnitedStates and other countries
transition out of the militaryinto civilian life, because
right now, there's about 27veterans a day that take their
life, that are struggling withmental health 27 male, female
take their lives every singleday, which is wild.
(06:40):
We have to lower that.
And so my dad took his lifewhen I was 16.
And so suicide prevention is,you know, big on.
Why I think I'm on earth andwhy I'm here to help is to help
people wake up happier, and so Ilike doing adventures and
excursions to bring awareness tomental health.
And so, after I bearcrawled themarathon, my next thing was all
(07:03):
right.
Well, you know, what's Devongoing to do next?
I guess it was a big question.
This world is big and I wantedto see it, you know.
And so I said what other way tonot only inspire others to like
just get out of your normalroutine, your normal just like.
Think about how many peoplejust drive into work and drive
home the same route every singleday and they talk to the same
(07:25):
people every single day and theysee the same things every
single day.
If you just take a differentroute home, simply just take one
left turn or one right turn andexpand your brain.
Now take two left turns, tworight turns or you know, go talk
to a random person at a coffeeshop or start a conversation
with someone or go somewhere.
That's how your brain expandsand I think that's how people
can cope with mental healthissues is by just expanding your
(07:47):
brain and seeing what the worldhas to offer 100%.
Prue Aja (07:51):
When I was a kid, I had a map of the world on my
wall and I used to just look atit and go.
We only live here in this tinylittle bit, so I've always been
really inspired to go and likesee everything.
Devon (08:03):
Everything.
Prue Aja (08:04):
Yeah, and I'm a huge traveler.
This is my second trip sinceCOVID.
I was in Fiji a couple ofmonths ago.
There is a bit of guilt aroundtraveling, though, and the
effects environmental effects offlying.
What are your thoughts aroundthat?
Devon (08:20):
I think it does.
I think there is some type ofeffect.
But I think life's really shortand I think I don't want to say
I offset it.
But you know I do Well with theimpact you're creating with by
(08:41):
the things that you're doing.
I think it's more I don't know.
I think it's more impactfulthan negative.
You know me taking a flight toNew York to bear Carl Marathon
and save thousands of people'slives.
I think the people that see meonline I get messages every day
like, dude, you travel inAntarctica or go into Africa or
(09:03):
go into these places itliterally saved my life, like I
was on the edge.
So you know you kind of have topick and choose and you know I
value people's lives probably alittle bit.
You know, not more or less, butjust you know I value people's
lives and you know I know whatpeople go through and they need
to see someone else do it.
You know, before they start todo it, a lot of people need
(09:25):
direction.
A lot of people aren't.
You know they're afraid to takethe leap of faith, they're
afraid to try something new andif you can pioneer that.
You know environment, you knowI feel very much the same.
Prue Aja (09:36):
That's what this podcast is all about is
inspiring and motivating peopleto live their best lives.
Like I grew up, my parents haddrug addictions, my mom died
when I was 13, and then my dadhad mental health issues all
through my teenage years, and soI left home and I was like I'm
going to create the best lifeever and really share that with
(09:57):
people and inspire them that youcan really do anything if you
put your mind to it.
I think the hardest thing isactually creating a vision of
what is possible, Because peopleare like I don't know what I
want, and so I think by doingthese things and showing them
and going well, this is possible, and that plants a seed for
(10:18):
them to go oh, so maybe I can dothat too.
Correct and allows people todream big, because once you
dream big and you set theintention, and then it's just a
matter of taking smallintentional steps each day and
really believing in yourself.
Devon (10:31):
Exactly and you can make it happen.
It's like the first human thatever broke the first ever four
minute mile, which was likeworld-renowned.
You know, it was like, oh myGod, they didn't think it was
even possible for a human to dothat.
And when that person broke therecord there was like 20 other
people that did it rightafterwards and it wasn't because
(10:56):
they were healthier or not orthey did something different.
It's just because that personbroke the record and they proved
it was possible.
And now everyone else is.
They believe, and a lot of itjust comes down to your mind.
Prue Aja (11:10):
And making that decision as well, yeah, doing
that.
So we're here today.
You've got maybe a hundredpeople to do a polar plunge.
Devon (11:19):
Yes, I did.
Prue Aja (11:20):
And it sounds like you've got a lot of experience
in this and you're talking a bitbefore about the mental health
effects.
Maybe share a bit about yourexperience when you first
discovered it?
Devon (11:30):
Right.
So you know I played football,American football and baseball
in college, and before that Iwas at military academy, and so
we were doing cold plungespretty much daily, just for
sports and recovery.
But recently so you know Iwould say 15 years but recently
it's been implemented more intopeople's everyday, outside of
(11:50):
just inflammation, outside ofjust the body, the body effects
it has on you, the positive bodyeffects it has on you.
It's now more for mental health.
It helps people do somethinghard at the beginning of their
day so the rest of their daysfeels easier.
It helps people increase theirdopamine levels.
They're endorphins.
(12:11):
It really gets down to thescience of why getting in cold
exposure like helps you frommental perspective.
Right.
It also does a thing that not alot of people talk about it
brings community together.
Think about how many peoplewere excited today to go in, not
just for themselves, but to bea part of it, to go down to jump
in.
Everyone is cheering each otheron Like.
(12:32):
It brings the other communityand that's one thing that you
know I think a lot of us forgetkeeps us young.
It's one of the main pillars ofthe blue zones, and longevity
is community.
It's like being with otherpeople and like being a part of
something, and everyone wants tobe a part of something, Right?
I know that for a fact.
Everyone, I don't care what itis or who you are everyone wants
to be a part of something, andif that's what entices them.
(12:55):
And cold can bring peopletogether, just like food.
Food brings people together,Working out brings people
together, Travel brings peopletogether.
Cold plunging is the same thing.
It brings people together.
And so, of course, the dopamine, the endorphins.
You know.
There's science backed studiesthat prove how great it is for
your mental health to do a coldplunge every morning.
Right, and the sauna as well.
(13:15):
If you do a sauna five times aweek for 10 minutes a day, you
can decrease your chances ofdeath by 50%.
It's a real stat, you know,from a dopamine perspective, for
cold plunging, if you can go ina cold plunge anywhere from 39
to 45 ish degrees, you canincrease your dopamine as the
same amount as cocaine.
(13:36):
But the difference is thedopamine and cocaine only last
for eight and a half minutes.
The dopamine and cold plungethat you get from cold plunging
lasts for two and a half hours.
Prue Aja (13:44):
I'm still buzzing.
Devon (13:45):
Right, you still feel I feel amazing right now, right,
and that's the rest of that lastbird, you know two hours.
So you know, I think thecommunity side is big for
people's mental health.
I think the dopamine, theendorphins, obviously is amazing
.
And then, yeah, it's great forinflammation, it's great for
recovery.
It's just, it's overall, it'sjust amazing, amazing for you.
So I encourage everyonelistening to this to try a cold
(14:07):
plunge.
If you haven't, if you don'thave access to a cold plunge,
try a cold shower.
Prue Aja (14:10):
Yeah, and that's what I wanted to mention.
Actually, you know, you don'thave to go out and buy a cold
plunge pool or, as my friend has, she's got a deep freezer which
is what we use, which isawesome.
Yeah, it's the same thing and Idid a few before I came here and
midway through this year Istarted getting really crazy
anxiety like pins and needles,waking up at 3am and I met this
(14:33):
guy at SOMA, which is ameditation center in Byron, and
he's told me two things.
He goes, just start doing thesetwo things and I promise in six
weeks you won't have this any,you won't have this anxiety
anymore, cause I was like, I waslike broken and he said two
minute cold shower.
As soon as you wake up everymorning and watch the sunrise,
(14:53):
like, stop wearing sunglasses,especially before 9am, because
that rising sun is how vitamin Dis processed and that helps
with your mental health as well.
And yeah, it works.
Devon (15:04):
And it also helps keep your circadian rhythm on point.
Yes, you know if you're evertraveling and you're like, oh
man, you know, my sleep is off,you know I have, you know, jet
lag, go into the sun and that'llhelp reset your circadian
rhythm and get you back on track.
So I agree with all that it'scold in the morning.
If you can do sauna, do that inthe morning.
(15:25):
If you can focus on your guthealth and drink pre and
probiotics amazing for you.
That's what helps repair yourgut.
70% of major diseases areformed from your gut.
If you can get into sunlight inthe morning, those are all just
like things that are amazingfor longevity, for health, for
you to feel really good.
Prue Aja (15:46):
Basic human things.
Okay, I'm going to ask aquestion.
What is the difference betweenprebiotics and probiotics?
Devon (15:53):
Yeah, prebiot, prebiot, they're both.
Bacteria is in your gut andthey're good, and the probiotics
actually eat the prebiotics,and so probiotics can't live
without preys.
Prue Aja (16:05):
Right, right so they, you.
Devon (16:07):
Most people take probiotics like in yogurt, right
?
Probiotics are great for you,but you need the preys to feed
it.
Right.
Prue Aja (16:13):
Correct.
Okay, yeah, we a bit of a fadstarted going around my hometown
with this yogurt.
There was this new strain andpeople were talking about and we
all started bought our yogurtkits and started making yogurt
recently and it was incrediblethis yogurt because it just
softened everyone became softand like loving.
(16:33):
Have you heard about this?
Devon (16:35):
strain of yogurt.
Prue Aja (16:36):
I have to find it and put it in the show notes,
because it is incredible, it's aprocess making it.
Devon (16:41):
Okay, but is it dairy?
Prue Aja (16:43):
You can do it, dairy or coconut, oh you can.
So it's actually a matter ofusing the, the bacteria which
you can get in capsules, andthen you put the capsules into
it.
You know you make it to acertain heat temperature because
you don't want to kill it, andthen you mix it in, you put in
the yogurt maker.
I think it's for 30 hours.
Devon (17:01):
Wow.
Prue Aja (17:01):
And then you just have a few tablespoons a day and
it's just really good bacteriain your body.
It's so good for you, and itjust kind of shifted your energy
to soften everyone Wow.
My friend who's got like threelittle kids at home.
Her and her husband startedhaving it and was giving it to
the kids and everyone wasbecoming less reactive, less
(17:22):
frustrated.
Devon (17:24):
Oh wow, so she's people's mood.
Prue Aja (17:26):
Changes people's mood.
Yeah, so I'll have to find itand I'll share it with you,
that's insane.
It's really cool.
Devon (17:31):
There's still whales out there, by the way.
Prue Aja (17:34):
Like this People are insane.
This is absolutely insane.
What's been your moment of awe?
Devon (17:43):
I would say I would say that the climb yesterday was
really cool.
The hike it's beautiful Justbecause it.
You know, I love climbing,mainly for when you get to the
top you just the views, you see,you know, and you feel so
accomplished.
But yesterday, that view andjust being able to sit down and
(18:05):
just take it in, and there was acouple of people that sat down.
Most people are just climbingto the top and then coming down
but then my one buddy sat downand started meditating and then
you see like 30 other peoplefollow and it was cool to see,
you know, people just reallytaking it.
No phones were out, it was justyou're just really taking in
(18:25):
the views and the weather andthe and the quietness and the I
don't know the air, did you?
Prue Aja (18:33):
get a chance of pure silence, because that was our
intention.
Yes, and I did a podcastyesterday and Sarah was in the
room and we said we're reeveryone's talking all the time
and it's great there's so muchconnection happening here.
But this is such dramaticlandscape and once you're quiet,
the silence so good you justhear this ginormous ice cracking
(18:55):
or some penguins talking, butwhen there's actually nothing.
It's, it's just crazy, it'scrazy.
There's like time stands,stills, you know, on another
planet and truly quiet yeah.
Devon (19:07):
There's nothing else around.
Prue Aja (19:08):
Yeah, I actually want to.
I makes me want to go and do itby myself.
Devon (19:12):
What?
What was your favorite part sofar?
Prue Aja (19:15):
That was pretty incredible.
Yes, actually I had a moment.
I think it was two mornings ago.
I got up and did the teaceremony.
Have you done a tea ceremonyhere?
Devon (19:25):
I have not.
Prue Aja (19:25):
No, so I think there was only four or five of us and
I got this text message that wasreally triggering just before
it.
Devon (19:33):
Oh no.
Prue Aja (19:34):
And so you know the reactive stuff and being angry
at this person and then goinginto tea ceremony and just
thinking like annoying thoughtsabout this person and then
sitting with them and go.
Why is it that I'm angry anddiving deep into where this fear
, like where it was all comingfrom?
And I have done quite a lot ofpersonal work this year and it
was just like a little bit ofresidue that was left over that
(19:57):
I hadn't fully cleared and beingable to really witness that and
go.
It's time to just let this goand trust it's gonna be okay.
Devon (20:05):
I love that I love this person.
Prue Aja (20:08):
It's their thing.
You know, I get to choose how Ireact to it.
And I started crying and thenit was unbelievable, similar to
those mountains we just saw.
It was the ocean, was fog, andthen there was mountains, and
then there was fog and we werejust sailing through in slow
(20:28):
motion and it looked like wewere flying and it was just this
infinite expansive space and Iwas like, look where I am.
I just had that moment of goinglook where you are.
Devon (20:38):
It's just amazing.
Prue Aja (20:39):
Bring it back to the present and nothing actually
matters.
Everything is perfect righthere, right now, in this moment.
And then we did yoga withAndrew, and that was my all
moment.
Devon (20:50):
That's a good.
You know, I mentor about ahundred founders every three
months.
It's called Devin's InnerCircle and we have a curriculum
that we bring them through andmy mental health coach, johnny
Martin, writes a curriculum.
And month one is we figure outwho people are and what their
values are like, what mattersmost to them.
(21:11):
Month two is their obstacles.
And month three I startconnecting them with my network
of people, people that havehelped my career scale.
And you know, one thing I alwaystell everyone is I don't, I.
You know yourself better thananyone, right?
I don't know I can get to knowthem, but they know themselves
better than anyone, right?
(21:31):
You know yourself better thananyone could ever understand,
right?
And one thing I know is there'sno book that necessarily has
all the answers.
But if you read books, if youtry experiences, if you talk to
people, if you try things, younever know when you're gonna
have your aha moment.
(21:51):
And those aha moments we can'tplan them, they just happen.
Just like you know you goinginto tea, right, you didn't know
like you're gonna get thattriggering text and then, boom,
you're gonna go into tea and yousay, wow, like you know what.
Aha, you know, this is how I'mgonna start handling the
situation, and I think that'sthe most beautiful thing when
people realize they're ahamoments, but you're not gonna
get the aha moment from sittingon your couch.
Prue Aja (22:14):
Scrolling on Instagram .
Devon (22:15):
I mean maybe scrolling like maybe a couple, but you're
much more likely to get thoseaha moments when you're out,
when you're talking, when you'reexperiencing new things, when
you're seeing new things, andthat's when you really start to.
That's when I think all thepeople when I travel and I meet
them, they're so cultured andthey know themselves and they're
so like calming and they'rejust like great to talk to and
(22:36):
it's good conversation.
I'm like man like this personjust gets it.
They've clearly had so many ahamoments in their life that just
like keep building up, buildingup to I don't know, just add to
their personality and add towho they are.
And I think it's important forus to constantly put ourselves
in situations to receive thoseaha moments.
Prue Aja (22:54):
And challenge yourself , and actually I, just as you
were speaking, I was thinkingabout.
You know emotions as feelingsin motion, and tea ceremony is
liquid and we're 80% water andso and that's what they
explained after was the teamoves your emotions through your
body.
Devon (23:13):
Oh interesting.
Prue Aja (23:14):
So it was processing it.
Have you done tea ceremony ever?
Devon (23:18):
No, I've done cacao ceremony, but I've never done a
tea ceremony.
Prue Aja (23:22):
Oh, I really recommend it.
Devon (23:24):
Maybe tomorrow morning.
Prue Aja (23:26):
Yeah, hopefully they're doing it.
There's a tea ceremony placethat's in my town.
Have you been to Byron Bay?
Devon (23:31):
in Australia?
I have not.
No, I know you have to come.
Prue Aja (23:33):
Maybe you come and do tea ceremony with me in Byron
Bay.
Devon (23:37):
Yes.
Prue Aja (23:38):
I'm gonna say it's probably the best place on earth
.
Devon (23:40):
Oh really.
Prue Aja (23:41):
Yeah, it's magical.
I'll show you some photos after.
Devon (23:44):
It's very it's a very, very special land that we live
on.
Prue Aja (23:49):
It's a very healing land, which means it also brings
up a lot of stuff.
So people come to Byron to heal.
You're not meant to actuallylike.
The indigenous people didn'tlive there.
It's a place to come and healand then you move on.
Devon (24:01):
Wow, so you don't?
You don't live there, I do livethere.
Oh, you live there, though,yeah.
Prue Aja (24:06):
And I thought I was moving back for good.
But now, after meeting allthese Americans, I'm like I
think there's something inAmerica for me, I'm gonna head
over.
Devon (24:11):
Oh, really yeah.
Prue Aja (24:12):
I'm gonna come in April, I'm gonna do it.
Sarah's got a trip planned fromMexico, I'm gonna do that.
And then I do photo shoot tours.
So I go to different cities andpeople book in portrait shoots
with me, oh sweet.
Devon (24:23):
So that's kinda how I'm a business.
Your photos are amazing, by theway.
Prue Aja (24:26):
Oh, thank you.
Devon (24:26):
You're off the charts.
Prue Aja (24:28):
Thanks.
Is there anything else that youwanna share about this journey?
Devon (24:32):
You know?
No, I think you know peoplewant to expand their brain and
they, you know.
If you're stuck in life and youknow you're figuring out what
direction to go, be spontaneous,go somewhere, start a new
conversation, take another routehome, just like, try new things
and you don't know when it'sgoing to click, but it will, as
(24:54):
long as you try and you putyourself in a place to receive
opportunity.
Prue Aja (24:59):
Definitely.
And you know what Something Iexperienced on this trip and I'm
just going to be really honesthere the first night we had this
dinner and there's somesuperstars here.
You're a superstar, thank you.
I've realized actually everyoneis their own superstar really,
and so I got social anxiety.
I'm like, oh my God, all thesepeople are you know, and then
the whole ego thing.
(25:19):
Who am I meant to be?
Who am I in this world?
And then actually, you know,spending more time with people
and shedding that, how I'veexplained it actually is
everyone's come from theirplaces and they're all on their
own vibration.
We're all on differentvibrations.
And then we came together andpeople were like it was kind of
grinding maybe not grindingagainst each other, that sounds
(25:40):
sus.
But we all came together andthen what's happened is we've
all started vibrating the sameenergy and everything's just
fallen away and we've all kindof integrated into unity and
connected in such a beautifulway here.
No one's better than anyoneelse.
Everyone's had their past andtheir stories and stuff, but
right now we're all just beingso in the present and enjoying
(26:03):
this mysterious land where it'sa bit hard to have a body clock
because the sun never goes down.
Devon (26:10):
No, yes, crazy the circadian rhythm does not exist
yet 24-7 sunlight.
Prue Aja (26:15):
Yeah, what I've realized is you don't sleep in
Antarctica, you don't, I don't,there we go.
Good afternoon and evening.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Devon (26:23):
We'll cut this part out.
Prue Aja (26:28):
Have you done the distal?
Devon (26:29):
I have.
I did it the first time.
I did it the first time thiswill be built in the dome on
deck seven.
I mean, sorry, not on deckseven.
That's right, thank you.
It's actually been anannouncement in each episode, is
there?
So I'm just going to leave it.
Oh, I like it, it's a part ofit.
Prue Aja (26:42):
Yeah, it's a part of it, that's actually really funny
and I love how you know we'reall going to be doing this we're
going to be doing this we'regoing to be doing this, we're
going to be doing this.
Devon (26:49):
We're going to be doing this.
We're going to be doing this.
Prue Aja (26:51):
And I love how you know each.
You know.
The thing about being here isabout being flexible, and so
every day is different.
Devon (26:58):
Yeah.
Prue Aja (26:59):
And you can't.
There's no expectations.
Devon (27:01):
No.
Prue Aja (27:01):
Everything's falling away and it's like, okay, we're
going to go do some grouptherapy now.
Devon (27:05):
Yeah, that's just what it is, and also like that's the
beauty of these trips and thisis why I love mountaineering.
You know I go on thesemountains and people are like,
well, how long is it going totake?
When are you summoning?
And I'm like I don't know,weather and Mother Nature has
their own agenda and I have noidea.
But I have to respect that and,like you have to be, you just
have to stay ready and like hereis kind of the same thing.
(27:26):
You know, we're going to runinto some weather things.
Probably we.
You know, not everything'splanned out perfectly, but it's
it's.
It's okay.
You know, everything that I'msaying right now is supposed to
be said on November, december18th, at 6.02 PM.
You know, I'm 31 years old.
This is what is I'm supposed tobe coming out of my mouth, like
(27:48):
every single thing.
It's like it's not.
And you know, what I said fiveminutes ago was supposed to be
said.
What I'm about to say in fiveminutes is supposed to be said.
Like you have to trust what ishappening now because it's
supposed to happen.
Prue Aja (28:00):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
That's why I don't.
This is an unplanned like.
People are like what are wegoing to talk about?
I'm like just trust what?
Happened, because we're justgoing to be fully present and
allow, allow that creativeconsciousness to come through.
That is pure truth,authenticity and what is meant
to be said in that moment, andshared with everyone else.
Devon (28:19):
Have you seen the Chinese farmer?
Prue Aja (28:21):
No All right Watch.
Devon (28:23):
I want everyone that's listening to this to go watch
the Chinese farmer, and I'm justgoing to stop there on YouTube
and it's.
It's a really good way aboutthinking.
You know, going about lifethinking about life yeah.
Prue Aja (28:32):
All right, we will leave it there.
Devon (28:33):
Thank you so much.
It's been great, it's awesome,thank you.
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Devon (00:38):
I wouldn't mind if we extended another day.
Prue Aja (00:40):
Yeah, I don't mind, because I feel like now there's
nothing on the schedule.
Yeah, actually, just time wecan catch up on sleep and we can
chill out.
Yeah, it would be great, andI'm so happy the sun's out
because I want to go and do someportraits after this.
I heard a rumor, though, aboutyou on the boat, that you came
here and you climbed a mountainand put a star link in.
Devon (01:03):
Yes.
Prue Aja (01:04):
Is that true?
Devon (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, what in January?
This year 12, 11 months ago.
Prue Aja (01:09):
Oh my God, 12 months ago.
How did you know where to putit?
Devon (01:14):
So we're on right now, right, we're good, yeah, yeah,
we're on.
Okay, cool we, there's anotherwhale.
Prue Aja (01:19):
Anyways, I'll stop.
We're just sitting here lookingat the most spectacular view in
the world and a whale justdoing a little show.
Devon (01:25):
The whale is literally giving us a show.
So in December I was approachedby some people at SpaceX to
help With an expedition and it'sto bring awareness to Star
Lincoln how it can be used inthe most remote areas in the
world, and they knew I wasclimbing Mount Vincent at the
time.
I'm in the middle of climbingthe highest point of each
(01:45):
continent, so I finished.
Africa, south America andArtica was number three, and I
actually leave for Mount Everestin four months, on April 14th.
Some of that, and so Antarctica.
Prue Aja (01:58):
I've never been.
It's not rubbing on your yeah,yeah.
Devon (02:00):
And Antarctica Was, you know, next stop, and that was
this past January and when theyapproached me, there has never
been like Wi-Fi on thiscontinent.
There's never been like youwere never able to FaceTime or
live stream from the continent.
Even Mr Beast, who's thebiggest, he has the biggest
(02:22):
YouTube following in the worldhe was there two weeks prior and
he didn't have service Like hedidn't even have access to it,
and so we brought the Starlinkdown and and we set it up.
I didn't physically set it up.
My buddy, Tyler Carnavali, whoworked at SpaceX at the time
he's the one that actually didthe backend system with this
(02:43):
other guy, Dutch, to connect,because you know, the Starlink
satellite in the in the air,like in the.
Prue Aja (02:50):
I was going to say what does it physically look
like?
Devon (02:52):
It's a regular Starlink, it's.
You know, it looks like a.
Prue Aja (02:54):
I don't know.
It looks like a satellite.
Devon (02:56):
Ok, right and so it's about I don't know.
I want to say about three feetby one and a half OK, you know,
not that big.
And so we set them up and we've, we brought the first ever
Wi-Fi to the continent.
Prue Aja (03:09):
Do you get a world record for that?
Devon (03:11):
Yes, you do yes, yeah, and we did the first ever live
stream from the top ofAntarctica, mount Vincent.
It's never been done.
Wow, yeah, I FaceTime my mom, IFaceTime a couple of friends.
Prue Aja (03:21):
That's insane From the top of the continent.
Devon (03:23):
I was.
Yeah, I have to show you thevideo at some point, but it's,
oh my God.
Prue Aja (03:26):
I'll share a link to the video in the show notes.
Devon (03:28):
Yeah, it's like that.
Prue Aja (03:32):
Oh is your face got icicles on it.
Devon (03:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Prue Aja (03:38):
It's SpaceX.
Devon (03:40):
Starlink Savage Tyler over here that made this all
happen.
This is the first ever lot everlive stream from the top.
Yeah, so that was the firstever live stream.
So we did that in January,brought all the equipment up now
with Union Glacier, which isthe main camp in Antarctica,
like for when people come in andclimb and do expeditions.
(04:01):
They all have Starlink, so I'vebeen talking to a couple of the
guides and mountaineers thatare over there right now, and
this year it's the first timethat's live for everyone.
And so now they're, they can tax, they can, they can communicate
their safety on the mountain.
Prue Aja (04:14):
So now, it's saving lives, yeah.
Devon (04:16):
Each, each, each camp on Vincent has Starlink, which is
really cool.
Prue Aja (04:20):
That's incredible.
So that's on the mainland.
Devon (04:22):
That's mainland and but also even the Starlink on this
ship right now is connected towhat.
What we set up because you canhave the satellite, but if it
doesn't talk to the satellite inthe sky, then it's useless.
Prue Aja (04:34):
Right.
Devon (04:34):
And so you have to connect those two parts.
Prue Aja (04:36):
Yeah.
Devon (04:36):
And so, by connecting it, what we did in January, now
this continent has Wi-Fi.
Prue Aja (04:42):
So the hot that one Starlink has access to the whole
not the one yet and it's nothow it works.
So it's there's two systems, soI'm just going to check that
this isn't like rubbing againstyour chest.
Let's put it.
Oh, you didn't have to put itthrough your shirt.
Devon (04:57):
Oh, that's so good, you just do it.
There you go it.
No, not that one All of them,so that one can only have a
certain bandwidth, right?
Yeah, just like this.
We, I think we have two on thisship, so that's good for this
ship, but if I was on, you know,you know 100 yards, that way I
wouldn't be able to connect.
Prue Aja (05:16):
Yes, ok, but.
Devon (05:18):
By connecting it on the back end system.
That allows this to even work.
Prue Aja (05:24):
That means that's because it kind of creates a
grid, maybe Correct.
They like bounce at each other.
Devon (05:29):
Yeah, actually it looks exactly like a grid.
If you looked at the map on theback end system, antarctica was
just blank, nothing, there wasno satellites talking to each
other.
Wow, now satellites can talk toeach other because of you,
because of what we did, yeah.
Prue Aja (05:43):
That's incredible.
Devon (05:44):
It was really cool.
Prue Aja (05:45):
How many times have you been to Antarctica?
Devon (05:47):
This is just the second time.
Prue Aja (05:49):
OK.
Devon (05:49):
Yeah.
Prue Aja (05:50):
So what inspired you to do that the first time, like
the first time here, and you'relike that's what I'm going to go
and do?
Devon (05:56):
Um Well, I think you know I'm doing the 7th Summit, so
I'm climbing the highest pointof each continent.
So you wanted to be preparedRight, and what inspired that
was.
In 2020, I did the New YorkCity Marathon, but I didn't run
it, I didn't walk it, Ibearcrawled the whole thing, so
on all fours.
And so I did that in 20 hoursand 48 minutes, and that set a
(06:18):
world record, and we raised aton of money for suicide
prevention and mental health.
Wow, veterans in the UnitedStates and other countries
transition out of the militaryinto civilian life, because
right now, there's about 27veterans a day that take their
life, that are struggling withmental health 27 male, female
take their lives every singleday, which is wild.
(06:40):
We have to lower that.
And so my dad took his lifewhen I was 16.
And so suicide prevention is,you know, big on.
Why I think I'm on earth andwhy I'm here to help is to help
people wake up happier, and so Ilike doing adventures and
excursions to bring awareness tomental health.
And so, after I bearcrawled themarathon, my next thing was all
(07:03):
right.
Well, you know, what's Devongoing to do next?
I guess it was a big question.
This world is big and I wantedto see it, you know.
And so I said what other way tonot only inspire others to like
just get out of your normalroutine, your normal just like.
Think about how many peoplejust drive into work and drive
home the same route every singleday and they talk to the same
(07:25):
people every single day and theysee the same things every
single day.
If you just take a differentroute home, simply just take one
left turn or one right turn andexpand your brain.
Now take two left turns, tworight turns or you know, go talk
to a random person at a coffeeshop or start a conversation
with someone or go somewhere.
That's how your brain expandsand I think that's how people
can cope with mental healthissues is by just expanding your
(07:47):
brain and seeing what the worldhas to offer 100%.
Prue Aja (07:51):
When I was a kid, I had a map of the world on my
wall and I used to just look atit and go.
We only live here in this tinylittle bit, so I've always been
really inspired to go and likesee everything.
Devon (08:03):
Everything.
Prue Aja (08:04):
Yeah, and I'm a huge traveler.
This is my second trip sinceCOVID.
I was in Fiji a couple ofmonths ago.
There is a bit of guilt aroundtraveling, though, and the
effects environmental effects offlying.
What are your thoughts aroundthat?
Devon (08:20):
I think it does.
I think there is some type ofeffect.
But I think life's really shortand I think I don't want to say
I offset it.
But you know I do Well with theimpact you're creating with by
(08:41):
the things that you're doing.
I think it's more I don't know.
I think it's more impactfulthan negative.
You know me taking a flight toNew York to bear Carl Marathon
and save thousands of people'slives.
I think the people that see meonline I get messages every day
like, dude, you travel inAntarctica or go into Africa or
(09:03):
go into these places itliterally saved my life, like I
was on the edge.
So you know you kind of have topick and choose and you know I
value people's lives probably alittle bit.
You know, not more or less, butjust you know I value people's
lives and you know I know whatpeople go through and they need
to see someone else do it.
You know, before they start todo it, a lot of people need
(09:25):
direction.
A lot of people aren't.
You know they're afraid to takethe leap of faith, they're
afraid to try something new andif you can pioneer that.
You know environment, you knowI feel very much the same.
Prue Aja (09:36):
That's what this podcast is all about is
inspiring and motivating peopleto live their best lives.
Like I grew up, my parents haddrug addictions, my mom died
when I was 13, and then my dadhad mental health issues all
through my teenage years, and soI left home and I was like I'm
going to create the best lifeever and really share that with
(09:57):
people and inspire them that youcan really do anything if you
put your mind to it.
I think the hardest thing isactually creating a vision of
what is possible, Because peopleare like I don't know what I
want, and so I think by doingthese things and showing them
and going well, this is possible, and that plants a seed for
(10:18):
them to go oh, so maybe I can dothat too.
Correct and allows people todream big, because once you
dream big and you set theintention, and then it's just a
matter of taking smallintentional steps each day and
really believing in yourself.
Devon (10:31):
Exactly and you can make it happen.
It's like the first human thatever broke the first ever four
minute mile, which was likeworld-renowned.
You know, it was like, oh myGod, they didn't think it was
even possible for a human to dothat.
And when that person broke therecord there was like 20 other
people that did it rightafterwards and it wasn't because
(10:56):
they were healthier or not orthey did something different.
It's just because that personbroke the record and they proved
it was possible.
And now everyone else is.
They believe, and a lot of itjust comes down to your mind.
Prue Aja (11:10):
And making that decision as well, yeah, doing
that.
So we're here today.
You've got maybe a hundredpeople to do a polar plunge.
Devon (11:19):
Yes, I did.
Prue Aja (11:20):
And it sounds like you've got a lot of experience
in this and you're talking a bitbefore about the mental health
effects.
Maybe share a bit about yourexperience when you first
discovered it?
Devon (11:30):
Right.
So you know I played football,American football and baseball
in college, and before that Iwas at military academy, and so
we were doing cold plungespretty much daily, just for
sports and recovery.
But recently so you know Iwould say 15 years but recently
it's been implemented more intopeople's everyday, outside of
(11:50):
just inflammation, outside ofjust the body, the body effects
it has on you, the positive bodyeffects it has on you.
It's now more for mental health.
It helps people do somethinghard at the beginning of their
day so the rest of their daysfeels easier.
It helps people increase theirdopamine levels.
They're endorphins.
(12:11):
It really gets down to thescience of why getting in cold
exposure like helps you frommental perspective.
Right.
It also does a thing that not alot of people talk about it
brings community together.
Think about how many peoplewere excited today to go in, not
just for themselves, but to bea part of it, to go down to jump
in.
Everyone is cheering each otheron Like.
(12:32):
It brings the other communityand that's one thing that you
know I think a lot of us forgetkeeps us young.
It's one of the main pillars ofthe blue zones, and longevity
is community.
It's like being with otherpeople and like being a part of
something, and everyone wants tobe a part of something, Right?
I know that for a fact.
Everyone, I don't care what itis or who you are everyone wants
to be a part of something, andif that's what entices them.
(12:55):
And cold can bring peopletogether, just like food.
Food brings people together,Working out brings people
together, Travel brings peopletogether.
Cold plunging is the same thing.
It brings people together.
And so, of course, the dopamine, the endorphins.
You know.
There's science backed studiesthat prove how great it is for
your mental health to do a coldplunge every morning.
Right, and the sauna as well.
(13:15):
If you do a sauna five times aweek for 10 minutes a day, you
can decrease your chances ofdeath by 50%.
It's a real stat, you know,from a dopamine perspective, for
cold plunging, if you can go ina cold plunge anywhere from 39
to 45 ish degrees, you canincrease your dopamine as the
same amount as cocaine.
(13:36):
But the difference is thedopamine and cocaine only last
for eight and a half minutes.
The dopamine and cold plungethat you get from cold plunging
lasts for two and a half hours.
Prue Aja (13:44):
I'm still buzzing.
Devon (13:45):
Right, you still feel I feel amazing right now, right,
and that's the rest of that lastbird, you know two hours.
So you know, I think thecommunity side is big for
people's mental health.
I think the dopamine, theendorphins, obviously is amazing
.
And then, yeah, it's great forinflammation, it's great for
recovery.
It's just, it's overall, it'sjust amazing, amazing for you.
So I encourage everyonelistening to this to try a cold
(14:07):
plunge.
If you haven't, if you don'thave access to a cold plunge,
try a cold shower.
Prue Aja (14:10):
Yeah, and that's what I wanted to mention.
Actually, you know, you don'thave to go out and buy a cold
plunge pool or, as my friend has, she's got a deep freezer which
is what we use, which isawesome.
Yeah, it's the same thing and Idid a few before I came here and
midway through this year Istarted getting really crazy
anxiety like pins and needles,waking up at 3am and I met this
(14:33):
guy at SOMA, which is ameditation center in Byron, and
he's told me two things.
He goes, just start doing thesetwo things and I promise in six
weeks you won't have this any,you won't have this anxiety
anymore, cause I was like, I waslike broken and he said two
minute cold shower.
As soon as you wake up everymorning and watch the sunrise,
(14:53):
like, stop wearing sunglasses,especially before 9am, because
that rising sun is how vitamin Dis processed and that helps
with your mental health as well.
And yeah, it works.
Devon (15:04):
And it also helps keep your circadian rhythm on point.
Yes, you know if you're evertraveling and you're like, oh
man, you know, my sleep is off,you know I have, you know, jet
lag, go into the sun and that'llhelp reset your circadian
rhythm and get you back on track.
So I agree with all that it'scold in the morning.
If you can do sauna, do that inthe morning.
(15:25):
If you can focus on your guthealth and drink pre and
probiotics amazing for you.
That's what helps repair yourgut.
70% of major diseases areformed from your gut.
If you can get into sunlight inthe morning, those are all just
like things that are amazingfor longevity, for health, for
you to feel really good.
Prue Aja (15:46):
Basic human things.
Okay, I'm going to ask aquestion.
What is the difference betweenprebiotics and probiotics?
Devon (15:53):
Yeah, prebiot, prebiot, they're both.
Bacteria is in your gut andthey're good, and the probiotics
actually eat the prebiotics,and so probiotics can't live
without preys.
Prue Aja (16:05):
Right, right so they, you.
Devon (16:07):
Most people take probiotics like in yogurt, right
?
Probiotics are great for you,but you need the preys to feed
it.
Right.
Prue Aja (16:13):
Correct.
Okay, yeah, we a bit of a fadstarted going around my hometown
with this yogurt.
There was this new strain andpeople were talking about and we
all started bought our yogurtkits and started making yogurt
recently and it was incrediblethis yogurt because it just
softened everyone became softand like loving.
(16:33):
Have you heard about this?
Devon (16:35):
strain of yogurt.
Prue Aja (16:36):
I have to find it and put it in the show notes,
because it is incredible, it's aprocess making it.
Devon (16:41):
Okay, but is it dairy?
Prue Aja (16:43):
You can do it, dairy or coconut, oh you can.
So it's actually a matter ofusing the, the bacteria which
you can get in capsules, andthen you put the capsules into
it.
You know you make it to acertain heat temperature because
you don't want to kill it, andthen you mix it in, you put in
the yogurt maker.
I think it's for 30 hours.
Devon (17:01):
Wow.
Prue Aja (17:01):
And then you just have a few tablespoons a day and
it's just really good bacteriain your body.
It's so good for you, and itjust kind of shifted your energy
to soften everyone Wow.
My friend who's got like threelittle kids at home.
Her and her husband startedhaving it and was giving it to
the kids and everyone wasbecoming less reactive, less
(17:22):
frustrated.
Devon (17:24):
Oh wow, so she's people's mood.
Prue Aja (17:26):
Changes people's mood.
Yeah, so I'll have to find itand I'll share it with you,
that's insane.
It's really cool.
Devon (17:31):
There's still whales out there, by the way.
Prue Aja (17:34):
Like this People are insane.
This is absolutely insane.
What's been your moment of awe?
Devon (17:43):
I would say I would say that the climb yesterday was
really cool.
The hike it's beautiful Justbecause it.
You know, I love climbing,mainly for when you get to the
top you just the views, you see,you know, and you feel so
accomplished.
But yesterday, that view andjust being able to sit down and
(18:05):
just take it in, and there was acouple of people that sat down.
Most people are just climbingto the top and then coming down
but then my one buddy sat downand started meditating and then
you see like 30 other peoplefollow and it was cool to see,
you know, people just reallytaking it.
No phones were out, it was justyou're just really taking in
(18:25):
the views and the weather andthe and the quietness and the I
don't know the air, did you?
Prue Aja (18:33):
get a chance of pure silence, because that was our
intention.
Yes, and I did a podcastyesterday and Sarah was in the
room and we said we're reeveryone's talking all the time
and it's great there's so muchconnection happening here.
But this is such dramaticlandscape and once you're quiet,
the silence so good you justhear this ginormous ice cracking
(18:55):
or some penguins talking, butwhen there's actually nothing.
It's, it's just crazy, it'scrazy.
There's like time stands,stills, you know, on another
planet and truly quiet yeah.
Devon (19:07):
There's nothing else around.
Prue Aja (19:08):
Yeah, I actually want to.
I makes me want to go and do itby myself.
Devon (19:12):
What?
What was your favorite part sofar?
Prue Aja (19:15):
That was pretty incredible.
Yes, actually I had a moment.
I think it was two mornings ago.
I got up and did the teaceremony.
Have you done a tea ceremonyhere?
Devon (19:25):
I have not.
Prue Aja (19:25):
No, so I think there was only four or five of us and
I got this text message that wasreally triggering just before
it.
Devon (19:33):
Oh no.
Prue Aja (19:34):
And so you know the reactive stuff and being angry
at this person and then goinginto tea ceremony and just
thinking like annoying thoughtsabout this person and then
sitting with them and go.
Why is it that I'm angry anddiving deep into where this fear
, like where it was all comingfrom?
And I have done quite a lot ofpersonal work this year and it
was just like a little bit ofresidue that was left over that
(19:57):
I hadn't fully cleared and beingable to really witness that and
go.
It's time to just let this goand trust it's gonna be okay.
Devon (20:05):
I love that I love this person.
Prue Aja (20:08):
It's their thing.
You know, I get to choose how Ireact to it.
And I started crying and thenit was unbelievable, similar to
those mountains we just saw.
It was the ocean, was fog, andthen there was mountains, and
then there was fog and we werejust sailing through in slow
(20:28):
motion and it looked like wewere flying and it was just this
infinite expansive space and Iwas like, look where I am.
I just had that moment of goinglook where you are.
Devon (20:38):
It's just amazing.
Prue Aja (20:39):
Bring it back to the present and nothing actually
matters.
Everything is perfect righthere, right now, in this moment.
And then we did yoga withAndrew, and that was my all
moment.
Devon (20:50):
That's a good.
You know, I mentor about ahundred founders every three
months.
It's called Devin's InnerCircle and we have a curriculum
that we bring them through andmy mental health coach, johnny
Martin, writes a curriculum.
And month one is we figure outwho people are and what their
values are like, what mattersmost to them.
(21:11):
Month two is their obstacles.
And month three I startconnecting them with my network
of people, people that havehelped my career scale.
And you know, one thing I alwaystell everyone is I don't, I.
You know yourself better thananyone, right?
I don't know I can get to knowthem, but they know themselves
better than anyone, right?
(21:31):
You know yourself better thananyone could ever understand,
right?
And one thing I know is there'sno book that necessarily has
all the answers.
But if you read books, if youtry experiences, if you talk to
people, if you try things, younever know when you're gonna
have your aha moment.
(21:51):
And those aha moments we can'tplan them, they just happen.
Just like you know you goinginto tea, right, you didn't know
like you're gonna get thattriggering text and then, boom,
you're gonna go into tea and yousay, wow, like you know what.
Aha, you know, this is how I'mgonna start handling the
situation, and I think that'sthe most beautiful thing when
people realize they're ahamoments, but you're not gonna
get the aha moment from sittingon your couch.
Prue Aja (22:14):
Scrolling on Instagram .
Devon (22:15):
I mean maybe scrolling like maybe a couple, but you're
much more likely to get thoseaha moments when you're out,
when you're talking, when you'reexperiencing new things, when
you're seeing new things, andthat's when you really start to.
That's when I think all thepeople when I travel and I meet
them, they're so cultured andthey know themselves and they're
so like calming and they'rejust like great to talk to and
(22:36):
it's good conversation.
I'm like man like this personjust gets it.
They've clearly had so many ahamoments in their life that just
like keep building up, buildingup to I don't know, just add to
their personality and add towho they are.
And I think it's important forus to constantly put ourselves
in situations to receive thoseaha moments.
Prue Aja (22:54):
And challenge yourself , and actually I, just as you
were speaking, I was thinkingabout.
You know emotions as feelingsin motion, and tea ceremony is
liquid and we're 80% water andso and that's what they
explained after was the teamoves your emotions through your
body.
Devon (23:13):
Oh interesting.
Prue Aja (23:14):
So it was processing it.
Have you done tea ceremony ever?
Devon (23:18):
No, I've done cacao ceremony, but I've never done a
tea ceremony.
Prue Aja (23:22):
Oh, I really recommend it.
Devon (23:24):
Maybe tomorrow morning.
Prue Aja (23:26):
Yeah, hopefully they're doing it.
There's a tea ceremony placethat's in my town.
Have you been to Byron Bay?
Devon (23:31):
in Australia?
I have not.
No, I know you have to come.
Prue Aja (23:33):
Maybe you come and do tea ceremony with me in Byron
Bay.
Devon (23:37):
Yes.
Prue Aja (23:38):
I'm gonna say it's probably the best place on earth
.
Devon (23:40):
Oh really.
Prue Aja (23:41):
Yeah, it's magical.
I'll show you some photos after.
Devon (23:44):
It's very it's a very, very special land that we live
on.
Prue Aja (23:49):
It's a very healing land, which means it also brings
up a lot of stuff.
So people come to Byron to heal.
You're not meant to actuallylike.
The indigenous people didn'tlive there.
It's a place to come and healand then you move on.
Devon (24:01):
Wow, so you don't?
You don't live there, I do livethere.
Oh, you live there, though,yeah.
Prue Aja (24:06):
And I thought I was moving back for good.
But now, after meeting allthese Americans, I'm like I
think there's something inAmerica for me, I'm gonna head
over.
Devon (24:11):
Oh, really yeah.
Prue Aja (24:12):
I'm gonna come in April, I'm gonna do it.
Sarah's got a trip planned fromMexico, I'm gonna do that.
And then I do photo shoot tours.
So I go to different cities andpeople book in portrait shoots
with me, oh sweet.
Devon (24:23):
So that's kinda how I'm a business.
Your photos are amazing, by theway.
Prue Aja (24:26):
Oh, thank you.
Devon (24:26):
You're off the charts.
Prue Aja (24:28):
Thanks.
Is there anything else that youwanna share about this journey?
Devon (24:32):
You know?
No, I think you know peoplewant to expand their brain and
they, you know.
If you're stuck in life and youknow you're figuring out what
direction to go, be spontaneous,go somewhere, start a new
conversation, take another routehome, just like, try new things
and you don't know when it'sgoing to click, but it will, as
(24:54):
long as you try and you putyourself in a place to receive
opportunity.
Prue Aja (24:59):
Definitely.
And you know what Something Iexperienced on this trip and I'm
just going to be really honesthere the first night we had this
dinner and there's somesuperstars here.
You're a superstar, thank you.
I've realized actually everyoneis their own superstar really,
and so I got social anxiety.
I'm like, oh my God, all thesepeople are you know, and then
the whole ego thing.
(25:19):
Who am I meant to be?
Who am I in this world?
And then actually, you know,spending more time with people
and shedding that, how I'veexplained it actually is
everyone's come from theirplaces and they're all on their
own vibration.
We're all on differentvibrations.
And then we came together andpeople were like it was kind of
grinding maybe not grindingagainst each other, that sounds
(25:40):
sus.
But we all came together andthen what's happened is we've
all started vibrating the sameenergy and everything's just
fallen away and we've all kindof integrated into unity and
connected in such a beautifulway here.
No one's better than anyoneelse.
Everyone's had their past andtheir stories and stuff, but
right now we're all just beingso in the present and enjoying
(26:03):
this mysterious land where it'sa bit hard to have a body clock
because the sun never goes down.
Devon (26:10):
No, yes, crazy the circadian rhythm does not exist
yet 24-7 sunlight.
Prue Aja (26:15):
Yeah, what I've realized is you don't sleep in
Antarctica, you don't, I don't,there we go.
Good afternoon and evening.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Devon (26:23):
We'll cut this part out.
Prue Aja (26:28):
Have you done the distal?
Devon (26:29):
I have.
I did it the first time.
I did it the first time thiswill be built in the dome on
deck seven.
I mean, sorry, not on deckseven.
That's right, thank you.
It's actually been anannouncement in each episode, is
there?
So I'm just going to leave it.
Oh, I like it, it's a part ofit.
Prue Aja (26:42):
Yeah, it's a part of it, that's actually really funny
and I love how you know we'reall going to be doing this we're
going to be doing this we'regoing to be doing this, we're
going to be doing this.
Devon (26:49):
We're going to be doing this.
We're going to be doing this.
Prue Aja (26:51):
And I love how you know each.
You know.
The thing about being here isabout being flexible, and so
every day is different.
Devon (26:58):
Yeah.
Prue Aja (26:59):
And you can't.
There's no expectations.
Devon (27:01):
No.
Prue Aja (27:01):
Everything's falling away and it's like, okay, we're
going to go do some grouptherapy now.
Devon (27:05):
Yeah, that's just what it is, and also like that's the
beauty of these trips and thisis why I love mountaineering.
You know I go on thesemountains and people are like,
well, how long is it going totake?
When are you summoning?
And I'm like I don't know,weather and Mother Nature has
their own agenda and I have noidea.
But I have to respect that and,like you have to be, you just
have to stay ready and like hereis kind of the same thing.
(27:26):
You know, we're going to runinto some weather things.
Probably we.
You know, not everything'splanned out perfectly, but it's
it's.
It's okay.
You know, everything that I'msaying right now is supposed to
be said on November, december18th, at 6.02 PM.
You know, I'm 31 years old.
This is what is I'm supposed tobe coming out of my mouth, like
(27:48):
every single thing.
It's like it's not.
And you know, what I said fiveminutes ago was supposed to be
said.
What I'm about to say in fiveminutes is supposed to be said.
Like you have to trust what ishappening now because it's
supposed to happen.
Prue Aja (28:00):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
That's why I don't.
This is an unplanned like.
People are like what are wegoing to talk about?
I'm like just trust what?
Happened, because we're justgoing to be fully present and
allow, allow that creativeconsciousness to come through.
That is pure truth,authenticity and what is meant
to be said in that moment, andshared with everyone else.
Devon (28:19):
Have you seen the Chinese farmer?
Prue Aja (28:21):
No All right Watch.
Devon (28:23):
I want everyone that's listening to this to go watch
the Chinese farmer, and I'm justgoing to stop there on YouTube
and it's.
It's a really good way aboutthinking.
You know, going about lifethinking about life yeah.
Prue Aja (28:32):
All right, we will leave it there.
Devon (28:33):
Thank you so much.
It's been great, it's awesome,thank you.
Prue Aja (28:39):
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