January 23, 2025 • 24 mins
In this episode, I sit down with Erica Kreismann, a trailblazing emergency medicine specialist, executive coach, and mom of four, to explore the journey from self-doubt to self-belief.
We dive deep into:
- Recognising and silencing the inner critic.
- Shifting from the “zone of excellence” to the “zone of genius.”
- Balancing instincts and decision-making to align with your true potential.
Erica shares powerful insights from her leadership coaching work, and we discuss practical tools for building confidence, trusting your gut, and showing up authentically.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to step out of their comfort zone and into their next chapter.
Connect with Erica Kreismann:
- LinkedIn: Erica Kreismann
- Website: https://www.onewildcoaching.com/
🎧 Tune in now and take the first step toward overcoming self-doubt and embracing your potential.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Today on the podcast I have Erica Kriesman, an
emergency medicine specialist,executive coach and mum of four
living in Tasmania.
Originally from Brooklyn, she'spassionate about helping women
grow as leaders through honestconversations, gratitude and
leaning into discomfort.
(00:23):
I've worked with Erica on twopersonal branding shoots,
capturing her incredible journeyof reinvention.
In this episode, we explore howto balance instincts with
decision-making, overcomeself-doubt and embrace
self-worth.
Let's dive in.
Welcome to the Seen and Heardpodcast, created for you if
(00:51):
you're a consultant, coach orcreative and want to enhance
your connection to your higherself, evolve your mindset and
embody your personal brand,creating freedom, fulfillment
and success.
Whether you're leveling up ornavigating a new chapter, this
podcast helps you own your powerand show up confidently to be
seen and heard.
I'm your host, pruaja, personalbrand coach, photographer and
(01:13):
motivational speaker.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It's fascinating, right, the way that we land in
that space of who we are,because even though I I had the
structure and the guidance andticked various boxes and have
loved it and have loved thejourney of medicine and
(01:41):
fascinated and challenged I,I've also never, never done it
in a traditional way.
So, even within that structure,I've always found ways to kind
of add my own flair and flavor.
You know, whether it's doing mytraining in the U?
S and then saying like, allright, I'm gonna I'm, you know,
(02:02):
move to a different continentthat I've never even been to.
You know, I'm gonna, you know,move to a different continent
that I've never even been to.
You know, I'm gonna start fromscratch over there, like I've
always been an adventurer andsomehow made it work, even
within the paradigm of beingtraditional the paradigm of
(02:28):
being traditional.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's why we connect so well as
well.
So you do have that, you dolisten to that innate wisdom.
You were making that decision.
Was there anything getting inthe way of it Like?
Was there any?
You know, war between your mindand your heart.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That's that, for me, has been the learning, certainly
as I get older, isunderstanding that I was going
to say, like my my heart is theis the is the guide and my my
head is the is the is the guideand my my head is the it's.
(03:06):
It's the safety right, it's thechecks and balances system,
like that constant um dialoguethat's going on, and and
appreciating.
They're both there for a reason, you you know, but for sure my
initial inclination may andtends to be to follow my heart
(03:28):
and then my, my brain kicks inand it, and it has all of the
logic and the rationality of,probably like the generations
that I grew up with, the voiceof.
That's irresponsible.
You can't do that.
Why would you do that?
How are you going to do this?
How are you going to pay thebills?
How are you going to cover the?
Do that, how are you going todo this?
How are you going to pay thebills?
How are you going to cover themortgage?
How are you going to?
It's like it's all there.
(03:48):
It's just usually secondary,it's usually after my heart, and
my heart always knows I'm goingto figure it out.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So how do you shut that voice down and create the
balance between both of them?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
What I've learned is that I I I don't go into it
shutting it down anymore,because then it becomes a little
(04:39):
bit of like a conflict.
What I've learned is how tohonor both.
What I've learned is how tohonor both biggest way that I've
leveled up Whereas in the pastI would disregard, I would
ignore, I didn't truly honor itKnowing to now pay attention
(05:04):
like something doesn't feelright, it doesn't sit right,
that's a pause point for me andit and that's when I'm learning
to, with curiosity and grace andbeing gentle, start to look at
at whatever is going on fromdifferent perspectives.
But but that's been, but that'sbeen a huge point of of growth
for me is even learning thatthose feelings are valid, that
(05:26):
that means something.
How does it show up?
yeah, for you um it is very,it's very visceral, it is very
much I it's a tightness, adiscomfort.
It's not even really pricklyLike and it feels so funny to
(05:47):
try to put it into words becauseit is.
It is something that thatmanifests in my body in a way
that feels almost like tensionis probably the the best way,
and when I'm paying attention, Inotice like I, I I store it, I
feel it, and if I just thenintentionally like we'll pause
(06:10):
and take that breath and try torelax it, that's an opportunity
for me to just start exploringit a bit more gently.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
have a similar.
Oh yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I was going to say um , I have a similar thing.
I do get blocked in listeningto myself.
Um.
So, with the human design beinga generator and with the sacral
authority, it's very muchpracticing the yes and the no
(06:43):
and being decisive.
So actually that's something Imight just quickly add in is if
you've got children that aregenerators, it's much better to
say, instead of going, what doyou want for dinner?
It's saying, do you want beeffor dinner?
They want yes.
No questions.
And same with myself realizingthat and learning to strengthen
(07:07):
my yes and no as well, of whatcomes up in the first answer is
always the right answer, notallowing that mind to come in
and going but should this, this,this?
So I've been practicing thatbecause I can be very indecisive
at times.
But the way it shows up in mybody is if I start kind of
(07:28):
physically closing in andfeeling tight, that's a no, and
if I'm open and excited andexpansive, that's a yes.
So trusting in that, but if Iquestion it and think too much,
that's when I get in the messymiddle.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So when you find yourself in that messy middle,
how have you learned to navigatethat?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You know what?
I actually drive myself insanesome days, but it's usually
around what should I eat, like,where should I eat?
So it's not major majordecisions.
Sometimes it can't.
I can get overwhelmed with somany things that I want to do in
(08:14):
my business each day because Ihave lots of ideas and things,
um.
So with that I write everythingdown and go, okay, well, what's
going to get me closer to thebig picture idea?
And I choose those three thingsto do first, and then that
usually takes at least half aday, and then I do my admin
(08:36):
emails at the end of the day,when that creative brain is a
bit more has been juiced up.
Did that answer the question?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, I'm, because it happens right where you get
yourself into this spin and youfeel like you can't make a
decision for me, I notice, whenI, when I don't sleep, I, I can
almost inevitably expect to findmyself in that space where it's
really hard to make a decision.
And and I and I'm, I was justcurious to know, like, when you
(09:10):
find yourself there, is there,there, can you, can you reel it
back?
Like, can you rewind and goback to that initial, that
initial reaction?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, yeah, you're right when it comes to not
sleeping enough and that's why,like, I feel quite exhausted
today and just took my time thismorning.
There's a couple of things I'vebeen practicing with.
One is going okay.
Things I've been practicingwith one is going okay.
If there's too much going onand I feel a bit scattered, it's
like all right, come home toyourself, like actually visually
(09:44):
see your energy coming backinto your body and coming back
home and grounding in and justletting everything fall away for
a moment, so that you'd back tothat oneness and then go okay,
what's important right now forme?
Another one um, I'm so gratefulfor my partner when I do get in
(10:07):
these.
I was gonna say fuzzles, but hejust goes remember who you are,
that's all.
Just remember who you are andcoming coming back, yeah, coming
back to that, yeah to thatsense of self, instead of being
in inbox and being like, oh, allthese things that people are
(10:29):
telling me I should do um, youknow, because he had all these
emails going ways to do this,blah, blah, blah and you're like
, oh, I want to learn all of it.
That's how my brain works,anyway.
And it's actually like you know, you actually already know you
have everything you need to knowinside, so let it all go.
Come home to yourself, howeverlong that might take, and then
(10:51):
take the steps that you need todo, but keep momentum.
I find sometimes I'm like, oh,I just need to be really still
and allow things to come to me,and actually that doesn't work
and maybe that's me being agenerator as well is, actually I
need to keep momentum forthings to respond to and to keep
(11:11):
creating stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I love that because a lot of it sits in that space of
knowing yourself right, knowingwho you are, what you need,
what you want.
For me, when I talk peoplethrough it, when I'm talking to
my clients, when I'm, it comesdown to that values work, which
I think is so vital in figuringout a path forwards.
(11:36):
It was for me reallyunderstanding what, who, who I
am right, what matters, yeah,and then using that as the
launching pad.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Definitely.
But even if someone's you knownervous system is wired and
they're in burnout mode andthat's not a time to be making
decisions or moving forward aswell, like that's the time to
let go again and do the selfcare so that you can strengthen
that inner self and then you'vegot the capacity to actually
(12:13):
take the next steps forward.
Otherwise it's coming from thatsurvivor energy too.
But working with a great coachlike yourself, you can see that
in someone and check in withthem going.
You know, is this aligned, isthis in your capacity, with what
you want to do?
What do you find shows up foryour clients in this realm of
(12:35):
things?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
In terms of, in terms of what?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
You know what?
Well, what's one of the mostcommon things they come to you
for?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'd be curious to know if it, if there's overlap
in terms of our spaces or the,or the things that we navigate,
the the most common um is in.
Is that inner critic and isthat imposter syndrome?
Um space, working with women inthe domains of leadership,
(13:11):
confidence, showing up?
How, how do they um, how dothey tap into their sense of
value and worth?
Um and all the ways that thatmanifests um, so when?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
what ways does it manifest?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
the biggest thing is that lack of confidence, or when
that inner critic gets loud, wekeep ourselves small and
understanding the impact thatthat has certainly for us as
individuals, as leaders andhumans.
And really, then, the next stepbeing how we then are depriving
(13:59):
the world, our community, ourmeetings, our teams, our
environment, of everything thatwe, that that we are capable of
bringing you know,underestimating the value that
we add and then not showing upis it's, it's a travesty, and so
(14:25):
many of us do it yeah, yeah,yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
When it comes to my work and the people that I work
in my coaching side of things, Ifind that people I work with my
photography are already at acertain place.
They're like, yep, I'm ready tobe seen, and that's why I moved
into the coaching work, becauseI was taking them to a place.
Well, I guess they're ready tobe seen.
(14:52):
But also part of my process istaking someone's photos is going
okay, where are you going?
Where's five years from now?
What does that look like?
Let's take photos of thatfuture self and manifest and
magnetize the opportunities asif you're already there.
And then some people are sayingthey're not ready to use their
photos yet because they don'tfeel like they're there.
And that's when I startedcoaching five years ago to get
(15:15):
their mindset there and clearaway the blockages that are
stopping them from being there.
And with my group coachingprogram, it's probably people at
the stage just before that whoknow there's a niggle, there's
like something they're meant tobe doing in the world, but
they've been playing safe.
They keep on doing somethingbecause they are really good at
(15:37):
it, they get paid well for itand they get recognized for it,
and it's this whole.
You know, the zone ofexcellence versus zone of genius
and really stepping into theirzone of genius, so giving them
the confidence to mirror back tothem that innate wisdom and the
gifts and why they're here, whothey are.
(15:59):
So good, isn't that?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
it's such a beautiful part of coaching is not only
seeing it in someone else, butreally bringing them on the
journey to so that they can thensee it in themselves.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, and you know, I remember someone well, actually
it was a part of my journeyreally people saying, oh, you're
so good at being a photographer, you're so good, blah, blah,
blah, but it just didn'tpenetrate, it didn't go in.
I didn't believe it and I hadto do the inner work to go, and
I had to do the inner work to go.
(16:34):
Yeah, you know what I am Like.
I can do this.
This is a gift, and it would besad not to share it with people
and help people reach theirpotential as well.
And so we can be validated byheaps of people and things on
the outside, or try and fit intoa box that someone's created
(16:55):
heaps of people and things onthe outside, or try and fit into
a box that someone's created,but it's never, it's never going
to really ignite that flame ofthat deep knowing and that self
belief and that confidence.
And I think that's where thecoaching comes in to ignite that
fire.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I love that Prue, I think it's's so true the
transition between looking forexternal validation and approval
and when it comes from in here.
Yeah, you know so, when we weretalking about, or when I was
looking over preparation for thepodcast, and there are a series
(17:34):
of like oh, maybe we'll talkabout this, maybe we'll talk
about this.
And, and one of the one of thepoints of reflection or
questions was you know, is therea saying that you live by?
I think was something, and Ithought that's a great question,
like you know, because you havepillars or things that mark
your path, and there are.
Depending on the point in mylife, there have been different
(17:55):
ones.
You know, for example, ifyou're the smartest person in
the room, you're in the wrongroom, right.
That was one that alwaysmattered to me, that I've said
to my kids a million timesessentially be challenged,
extend yourself, embrace thediscomfort, all of that, and
it's still really important.
(18:15):
But the one that came to mindfor this phase of my life right
now know your worth, yeahdefinitely.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's well.
Actually, you know how peoplepick a word for the year.
Mine's two words it's wealthand worth so it's time to claim
my wealth from my worth done 20years of this now, and something
keeps showing up for me is mylack of self-worth and valuing
(18:49):
my gifts instead of drainingmyself and leaving myself with
nothing.
So that's my focus, and toremember the worth and the value
that I bring into people'slives and that it's okay to be
paid really well for that too.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So then, I can, absolutely.
That's right.
How are you, how are you goingto incorporate that, manifest it
for your year?
If those are your words, whatdoes that look?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
like.
Well, what it looks like isupdate.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I should have been telling this live, updating a
few passwords there are numbersand symbols in there though, so
don't try and hack me um butI've got it.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I've got my vision board up there, which, in feng
shui, is actually my successcorner as well.
So I moved my desk around to bein the right energetic position
, have my vision board in thesuccess corner and I've got it
written up there.
So you know, if I'm having oneof those days where I'm not
living in my worth and I'mwriting an email or sending a
(19:57):
proposal to a new client, likejust looking at that and
reminding me that I have awealth of knowledge and
experience and stories and it'sokay to charge what I want to
charge for that too, because Iam bringing so much value.
So, just as a little reminder,each day and it might not be
(20:19):
every day, it might just be somedays that it's there, and then
all the beautiful pictures ofgoing and this is why I'm doing
this, because this is what I'mbringing in to my life as well
that connection to, to your whyI think is so important for many
of us, right, Because it's nota pursuit of money necessarily
(20:43):
as much as it there's.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's not the word wealth is is broader than that
oh yeah, it's not just money,it's like creating a wealthy
life, a lifestyle, and I feellike I really already do have a
wealthy lifestyle.
I live in an amazing place.
I have freedom, even though I'mvery disciplined with my work.
(21:06):
I start at nine every day,monday to Thursdays anyway.
Fridays is my fun flexy day.
But you know, when I was 20, Iremember saying I want to create
a life and business that givesme flexibility and freedom to do
what I want when I want.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And that's wealth.
Right like that, that, thatfreedom, that capacity, that
knowledge to be able to, to livethat way, is to me, that's a
wealthy life definitely what.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And what about you?
Have you got a word for theyear?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I don't oh I should.
I really liked the idea ofhaving a word for the year.
I think I would really strugglewith like picking just one but
I'm going to pick one right now.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
What is it?
Three, two, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I feel like, because we were just talking about worth
, that's the one that's kind oflike bubbled up to the.
That's that's the one one, um,but but even I think the the it
wouldn't necessarily be worth.
The one that came up was valueum but I, I would like to sit
(22:22):
with that a bit more.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'll give you some space to contemplate your words.
Thank you, thank you, and whenwould you like to?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
tell me about what you've come up with.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Thank you so much.
I think this chat's been reallyvaluable to remind people to
come home to themselves.
They do have all the answersand you you know.
Working with people and beingsurrounded by people that remind
them of their wisdom, theirworth, their value as well, is
incredibly important, and theworld needs you yeah, I think
(23:03):
that's a pretty beautifulmessage to take away yeah, is
there anything that you wouldlike to share um?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I I love chatting with you always, and knowing
that there are people out therewho are doing this work, who are
supporting other people, toshow up as the best version, to
have that confidence to manifestin a way that feels aligned and
that adds value, is reallybeautiful.
(23:32):
So I'm grateful that you're outthere doing all the things that
you're doing and that I've hadthe good fortune of being in
your orbit.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm so grateful for you, too, and I will be sharing
this with your photos on thecover of this podcast episode as
well.
If this episode has inspiredand motivated you and you know
it could help someone in yournetwork, please share it on your
favorite social media platform.
(24:02):
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branding coach or photographer,visit Pruajacom or join one of
my personal brand transformationretreats where you reinvent
yourself and walk away feelingexcited and energized, with
clarity on who you are andphotos to show the world.
Thank you for tuning in andremember to own your power and
(24:25):
shine your light.
I'm your host, pruaja.
Today on the podcast I have Erica Kriesman, an
emergency medicine specialist,executive coach and mum of four
living in Tasmania.
Originally from Brooklyn, she'spassionate about helping women
grow as leaders through honestconversations, gratitude and
leaning into discomfort.
(00:23):
I've worked with Erica on twopersonal branding shoots,
capturing her incredible journeyof reinvention.
In this episode, we explore howto balance instincts with
decision-making, overcomeself-doubt and embrace
self-worth.
Let's dive in.
Welcome to the Seen and Heardpodcast, created for you if
(00:51):
you're a consultant, coach orcreative and want to enhance
your connection to your higherself, evolve your mindset and
embody your personal brand,creating freedom, fulfillment
and success.
Whether you're leveling up ornavigating a new chapter, this
podcast helps you own your powerand show up confidently to be
seen and heard.
I'm your host, pruaja, personalbrand coach, photographer and
(01:13):
motivational speaker.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It's fascinating, right, the way that we land in
that space of who we are,because even though I I had the
structure and the guidance andticked various boxes and have
loved it and have loved thejourney of medicine and
(01:41):
fascinated and challenged I,I've also never, never done it
in a traditional way.
So, even within that structure,I've always found ways to kind
of add my own flair and flavor.
You know, whether it's doing mytraining in the U?
S and then saying like, allright, I'm gonna I'm, you know,
(02:02):
move to a different continentthat I've never even been to.
You know, I'm gonna, you know,move to a different continent
that I've never even been to.
You know, I'm gonna start fromscratch over there, like I've
always been an adventurer andsomehow made it work, even
within the paradigm of beingtraditional the paradigm of
(02:28):
being traditional.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's why we connect so well as
well.
So you do have that, you dolisten to that innate wisdom.
You were making that decision.
Was there anything getting inthe way of it Like?
Was there any?
You know, war between your mindand your heart.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That's that, for me, has been the learning, certainly
as I get older, isunderstanding that I was going
to say, like my my heart is theis the is the guide and my my
head is the is the is the guideand my my head is the it's.
(03:06):
It's the safety right, it's thechecks and balances system,
like that constant um dialoguethat's going on, and and
appreciating.
They're both there for a reason, you you know, but for sure my
initial inclination may andtends to be to follow my heart
(03:28):
and then my, my brain kicks inand it, and it has all of the
logic and the rationality of,probably like the generations
that I grew up with, the voiceof.
That's irresponsible.
You can't do that.
Why would you do that?
How are you going to do this?
How are you going to pay thebills?
How are you going to cover the?
Do that, how are you going todo this?
How are you going to pay thebills?
How are you going to cover themortgage?
How are you going to?
It's like it's all there.
(03:48):
It's just usually secondary,it's usually after my heart, and
my heart always knows I'm goingto figure it out.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So how do you shut that voice down and create the
balance between both of them?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
What I've learned is that I I I don't go into it
shutting it down anymore,because then it becomes a little
(04:39):
bit of like a conflict.
What I've learned is how tohonor both.
What I've learned is how tohonor both biggest way that I've
leveled up Whereas in the pastI would disregard, I would
ignore, I didn't truly honor itKnowing to now pay attention
(05:04):
like something doesn't feelright, it doesn't sit right,
that's a pause point for me andit and that's when I'm learning
to, with curiosity and grace andbeing gentle, start to look at
at whatever is going on fromdifferent perspectives.
But but that's been, but that'sbeen a huge point of of growth
for me is even learning thatthose feelings are valid, that
(05:26):
that means something.
How does it show up?
yeah, for you um it is very,it's very visceral, it is very
much I it's a tightness, adiscomfort.
It's not even really pricklyLike and it feels so funny to
(05:47):
try to put it into words becauseit is.
It is something that thatmanifests in my body in a way
that feels almost like tensionis probably the the best way,
and when I'm paying attention, Inotice like I, I I store it, I
feel it, and if I just thenintentionally like we'll pause
(06:10):
and take that breath and try torelax it, that's an opportunity
for me to just start exploringit a bit more gently.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
have a similar.
Oh yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I was going to say um , I have a similar thing.
I do get blocked in listeningto myself.
Um.
So, with the human design beinga generator and with the sacral
authority, it's very muchpracticing the yes and the no
(06:43):
and being decisive.
So actually that's something Imight just quickly add in is if
you've got children that aregenerators, it's much better to
say, instead of going, what doyou want for dinner?
It's saying, do you want beeffor dinner?
They want yes.
No questions.
And same with myself realizingthat and learning to strengthen
(07:07):
my yes and no as well, of whatcomes up in the first answer is
always the right answer, notallowing that mind to come in
and going but should this, this,this?
So I've been practicing thatbecause I can be very indecisive
at times.
But the way it shows up in mybody is if I start kind of
(07:28):
physically closing in andfeeling tight, that's a no, and
if I'm open and excited andexpansive, that's a yes.
So trusting in that, but if Iquestion it and think too much,
that's when I get in the messymiddle.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So when you find yourself in that messy middle,
how have you learned to navigatethat?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You know what?
I actually drive myself insanesome days, but it's usually
around what should I eat, like,where should I eat?
So it's not major majordecisions.
Sometimes it can't.
I can get overwhelmed with somany things that I want to do in
(08:14):
my business each day because Ihave lots of ideas and things,
um.
So with that I write everythingdown and go, okay, well, what's
going to get me closer to thebig picture idea?
And I choose those three thingsto do first, and then that
usually takes at least half aday, and then I do my admin
(08:36):
emails at the end of the day,when that creative brain is a
bit more has been juiced up.
Did that answer the question?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, I'm, because it happens right where you get
yourself into this spin and youfeel like you can't make a
decision for me, I notice, whenI, when I don't sleep, I, I can
almost inevitably expect to findmyself in that space where it's
really hard to make a decision.
And and I and I'm, I was justcurious to know, like, when you
(09:10):
find yourself there, is there,there, can you, can you reel it
back?
Like, can you rewind and goback to that initial, that
initial reaction?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, yeah, you're right when it comes to not
sleeping enough and that's why,like, I feel quite exhausted
today and just took my time thismorning.
There's a couple of things I'vebeen practicing with.
One is going okay.
Things I've been practicingwith one is going okay.
If there's too much going onand I feel a bit scattered, it's
like all right, come home toyourself, like actually visually
(09:44):
see your energy coming backinto your body and coming back
home and grounding in and justletting everything fall away for
a moment, so that you'd back tothat oneness and then go okay,
what's important right now forme?
Another one um, I'm so gratefulfor my partner when I do get in
(10:07):
these.
I was gonna say fuzzles, but hejust goes remember who you are,
that's all.
Just remember who you are andcoming coming back, yeah, coming
back to that, yeah to thatsense of self, instead of being
in inbox and being like, oh, allthese things that people are
(10:29):
telling me I should do um, youknow, because he had all these
emails going ways to do this,blah, blah, blah and you're like
, oh, I want to learn all of it.
That's how my brain works,anyway.
And it's actually like you know, you actually already know you
have everything you need to knowinside, so let it all go.
Come home to yourself, howeverlong that might take, and then
(10:51):
take the steps that you need todo, but keep momentum.
I find sometimes I'm like, oh,I just need to be really still
and allow things to come to me,and actually that doesn't work
and maybe that's me being agenerator as well is, actually I
need to keep momentum forthings to respond to and to keep
(11:11):
creating stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I love that because a lot of it sits in that space of
knowing yourself right, knowingwho you are, what you need,
what you want.
For me, when I talk peoplethrough it, when I'm talking to
my clients, when I'm, it comesdown to that values work, which
I think is so vital in figuringout a path forwards.
(11:36):
It was for me reallyunderstanding what, who, who I
am right, what matters, yeah,and then using that as the
launching pad.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Definitely.
But even if someone's you knownervous system is wired and
they're in burnout mode andthat's not a time to be making
decisions or moving forward aswell, like that's the time to
let go again and do the selfcare so that you can strengthen
that inner self and then you'vegot the capacity to actually
(12:13):
take the next steps forward.
Otherwise it's coming from thatsurvivor energy too.
But working with a great coachlike yourself, you can see that
in someone and check in withthem going.
You know, is this aligned, isthis in your capacity, with what
you want to do?
What do you find shows up foryour clients in this realm of
(12:35):
things?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
In terms of, in terms of what?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
You know what?
Well, what's one of the mostcommon things they come to you
for?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'd be curious to know if it, if there's overlap
in terms of our spaces or the,or the things that we navigate,
the the most common um is in.
Is that inner critic and isthat imposter syndrome?
Um space, working with women inthe domains of leadership,
(13:11):
confidence, showing up?
How, how do they um, how dothey tap into their sense of
value and worth?
Um and all the ways that thatmanifests um, so when?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
what ways does it manifest?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
the biggest thing is that lack of confidence, or when
that inner critic gets loud, wekeep ourselves small and
understanding the impact thatthat has certainly for us as
individuals, as leaders andhumans.
And really, then, the next stepbeing how we then are depriving
(13:59):
the world, our community, ourmeetings, our teams, our
environment, of everything thatwe, that that we are capable of
bringing you know,underestimating the value that
we add and then not showing upis it's, it's a travesty, and so
(14:25):
many of us do it yeah, yeah,yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
When it comes to my work and the people that I work
in my coaching side of things, Ifind that people I work with my
photography are already at acertain place.
They're like, yep, I'm ready tobe seen, and that's why I moved
into the coaching work, becauseI was taking them to a place.
Well, I guess they're ready tobe seen.
(14:52):
But also part of my process istaking someone's photos is going
okay, where are you going?
Where's five years from now?
What does that look like?
Let's take photos of thatfuture self and manifest and
magnetize the opportunities asif you're already there.
And then some people are sayingthey're not ready to use their
photos yet because they don'tfeel like they're there.
And that's when I startedcoaching five years ago to get
(15:15):
their mindset there and clearaway the blockages that are
stopping them from being there.
And with my group coachingprogram, it's probably people at
the stage just before that whoknow there's a niggle, there's
like something they're meant tobe doing in the world, but
they've been playing safe.
They keep on doing somethingbecause they are really good at
(15:37):
it, they get paid well for itand they get recognized for it,
and it's this whole.
You know, the zone ofexcellence versus zone of genius
and really stepping into theirzone of genius, so giving them
the confidence to mirror back tothem that innate wisdom and the
gifts and why they're here, whothey are.
(15:59):
So good, isn't that?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
it's such a beautiful part of coaching is not only
seeing it in someone else, butreally bringing them on the
journey to so that they can thensee it in themselves.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, and you know, I remember someone well, actually
it was a part of my journeyreally people saying, oh, you're
so good at being a photographer, you're so good, blah, blah,
blah, but it just didn'tpenetrate, it didn't go in.
I didn't believe it and I hadto do the inner work to go, and
I had to do the inner work to go.
(16:34):
Yeah, you know what I am Like.
I can do this.
This is a gift, and it would besad not to share it with people
and help people reach theirpotential as well.
And so we can be validated byheaps of people and things on
the outside, or try and fit intoa box that someone's created
(16:55):
heaps of people and things onthe outside, or try and fit into
a box that someone's created,but it's never, it's never going
to really ignite that flame ofthat deep knowing and that self
belief and that confidence.
And I think that's where thecoaching comes in to ignite that
fire.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I love that Prue, I think it's's so true the
transition between looking forexternal validation and approval
and when it comes from in here.
Yeah, you know so, when we weretalking about, or when I was
looking over preparation for thepodcast, and there are a series
(17:34):
of like oh, maybe we'll talkabout this, maybe we'll talk
about this.
And, and one of the one of thepoints of reflection or
questions was you know, is therea saying that you live by?
I think was something, and Ithought that's a great question,
like you know, because you havepillars or things that mark
your path, and there are.
Depending on the point in mylife, there have been different
(17:55):
ones.
You know, for example, ifyou're the smartest person in
the room, you're in the wrongroom, right.
That was one that alwaysmattered to me, that I've said
to my kids a million timesessentially be challenged,
extend yourself, embrace thediscomfort, all of that, and
it's still really important.
(18:15):
But the one that came to mindfor this phase of my life right
now know your worth, yeahdefinitely.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's well.
Actually, you know how peoplepick a word for the year.
Mine's two words it's wealthand worth so it's time to claim
my wealth from my worth done 20years of this now, and something
keeps showing up for me is mylack of self-worth and valuing
(18:49):
my gifts instead of drainingmyself and leaving myself with
nothing.
So that's my focus, and toremember the worth and the value
that I bring into people'slives and that it's okay to be
paid really well for that too.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So then, I can, absolutely.
That's right.
How are you, how are you goingto incorporate that, manifest it
for your year?
If those are your words, whatdoes that look?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
like.
Well, what it looks like isupdate.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I should have been telling this live, updating a
few passwords there are numbersand symbols in there though, so
don't try and hack me um butI've got it.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I've got my vision board up there, which, in feng
shui, is actually my successcorner as well.
So I moved my desk around to bein the right energetic position
, have my vision board in thesuccess corner and I've got it
written up there.
So you know, if I'm having oneof those days where I'm not
living in my worth and I'mwriting an email or sending a
(19:57):
proposal to a new client, likejust looking at that and
reminding me that I have awealth of knowledge and
experience and stories and it'sokay to charge what I want to
charge for that too, because Iam bringing so much value.
So, just as a little reminder,each day and it might not be
(20:19):
every day, it might just be somedays that it's there, and then
all the beautiful pictures ofgoing and this is why I'm doing
this, because this is what I'mbringing in to my life as well
that connection to, to your whyI think is so important for many
of us, right, Because it's nota pursuit of money necessarily
(20:43):
as much as it there's.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's not the word wealth is is broader than that
oh yeah, it's not just money,it's like creating a wealthy
life, a lifestyle, and I feellike I really already do have a
wealthy lifestyle.
I live in an amazing place.
I have freedom, even though I'mvery disciplined with my work.
(21:06):
I start at nine every day,monday to Thursdays anyway.
Fridays is my fun flexy day.
But you know, when I was 20, Iremember saying I want to create
a life and business that givesme flexibility and freedom to do
what I want when I want.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And that's wealth.
Right like that, that, thatfreedom, that capacity, that
knowledge to be able to, to livethat way, is to me, that's a
wealthy life definitely what.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And what about you?
Have you got a word for theyear?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I don't oh I should.
I really liked the idea ofhaving a word for the year.
I think I would really strugglewith like picking just one but
I'm going to pick one right now.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
What is it?
Three, two, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I feel like, because we were just talking about worth
, that's the one that's kind oflike bubbled up to the.
That's that's the one one, um,but but even I think the the it
wouldn't necessarily be worth.
The one that came up was valueum but I, I would like to sit
(22:22):
with that a bit more.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'll give you some space to contemplate your words.
Thank you, thank you, and whenwould you like to?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
tell me about what you've come up with.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Thank you so much.
I think this chat's been reallyvaluable to remind people to
come home to themselves.
They do have all the answersand you you know.
Working with people and beingsurrounded by people that remind
them of their wisdom, theirworth, their value as well, is
incredibly important, and theworld needs you yeah, I think
(23:03):
that's a pretty beautifulmessage to take away yeah, is
there anything that you wouldlike to share um?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I I love chatting with you always, and knowing
that there are people out therewho are doing this work, who are
supporting other people, toshow up as the best version, to
have that confidence to manifestin a way that feels aligned and
that adds value, is reallybeautiful.
(23:32):
So I'm grateful that you're outthere doing all the things that
you're doing and that I've hadthe good fortune of being in
your orbit.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm so grateful for you, too, and I will be sharing
this with your photos on thecover of this podcast episode as
well.
If this episode has inspiredand motivated you and you know
it could help someone in yournetwork, please share it on your
favorite social media platform.
(24:02):
To explore other ways you canwork with me as a personal
branding coach or photographer,visit Pruajacom or join one of
my personal brand transformationretreats where you reinvent
yourself and walk away feelingexcited and energized, with
clarity on who you are andphotos to show the world.
Thank you for tuning in andremember to own your power and
(24:25):
shine your light.
I'm your host, pruaja.
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