September 18, 2025 • 20 mins
Kate McAllister shares her journey from traditional teaching in the UK to creating The Human Hive in the Dominican Republic. We talk about learning through global projects, raising children outside the standard map, and what it means to discover that there are no dragons when you step off the expected path.
🗓️ Recorded September 10, 2025. 📍 Åmarken, Lille Skendsved, Denmark
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today we are together with Kate McAllister, and Kate
comes recommended from a friendwho have also appeared on the
podcast, rebecca.
We talked with her about whoshould we find as guests and she
said you should talk with Kate.
So, kate, here we are, makeRebecca proud.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'll do my best.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So, and that's basically all I know about you,
kate.
So I was on the way to thepodcast here, thinking about
where should we start, and Ithink I would like to start with
what makes your brain tick,what makes you happy, what is it
that drives you?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Gosh, that's a big question, Okay, human beings is
it that drives you gosh?
That's a big question, okay?
Um, human beings human beingsand how to support them to feel
as energized and contented andpurposeful as possible.
And that's my family, mychildren, my friends, people
(01:08):
I've never met before.
I think that that is somethingthat has always driven me and
it's never become boring.
Sometimes there's been periodsin my life where I've put myself
in a position to support aparticular group of people and
it's been really challenging forme, but it's never been
(01:28):
something I said I don't want todo that anymore, I've had
enough.
I think I've moved that, thatsense of my purpose.
Maybe I think as I've grownolder, I've noticed the pattern
and thought that's the patternin my life, maybe that's
something to do with my purpose,and so that's what makes me
happy.
So, learning about how humansfunction, learning about how
(01:52):
minds work, learning about howbodies work, learning about how
energetic relationships work,learning in humans they're my
two things that I'm mostpassionate about.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wonderful.
One of my go-to solutions ischocolate, and I haven't had
enough today, I think, because Ihave kind of a low energy day,
so I hope that is okay.
Bye, but what is it you areworking with?
Rebecca shared that there'sthis hype thingy.
(02:22):
Can you put some words on it?
That?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
there's this hive thingy.
Can you put some words on it?
Yeah, so I started anorganization called the Human
Hive nearly 10 years ago with afriend of mine, darren Abrahams,
who is a trauma therapist, andthat organization offers
training and support to peoplewho want to do interesting
(02:45):
things in the world to supportother human beings.
And before that I was aschoolteacher in the United
Kingdom and I kind of startedoff being a traditional educator
.
Very quickly became much morefascinated in learning and
children and works, and so Imoved all the way along the
(03:06):
spectrum from traditional toprogressive, got to the end of
the spectrum, jumped off andthen went off the map and
started looking at alternativemodels for learning who was
doing what out in the world,learning who was doing what out
(03:27):
in the world.
And I ended up in the DominicanRepublic and people come
together and we work in aconcentrated way, six weeks at a
time, on one of the globalgoals.
So we learn about a globalchallenge and we look at it
through the local lens of here.
How does that affect people andplanet in Dominican Republic?
And how does that affect peopleand planet in Dominican
Republic?
And how does that affect peopleand planet wherever you're from
in the world, and then we lookat designing a solution that
(03:50):
will leave an impact in ourlocal community.
So we do lots of social impactprojects with local people here,
and what we learn through doingthat we everybody takes back to
where they came from or back towherever they're going next,
and so they become more skilledat noticing what's going on in
(04:12):
the world around them, and ifthey feel strongly that they
want to do something about it,they have a skill set and a
global network of other peopleto do something about it with.
That's what the Hive is.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Is it families or educators, or which kind of
people is it attracting?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So families come bring their children.
The children mostly work on theprojects and the parents can
help if they want to and getinvolved if they want to.
And I also run a similarprogram for young well, adults,
of any age actually, but ittends to be young adults who are
coming at the end of universityand so they come and train with
(04:52):
me and then they work with usin these projects and they work
around Cabrera.
So it's sort of blending thetwo aspects of my life really my
educational background and myhumanitarian human skill
building that all come togetherin this.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, and I actually don't know what about you and
kids?
I have two children, nice anddid you end up on this spectrum
where you ended up homeschoolingor you couldn't yeah yeah yeah,
like us.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So my first child is a fully grown adult now.
He's off in the world doing hisown thing, and he went to
regular school.
I grew up in a very traditionalfamily.
My dad drove trucks, my mom wasat home, the three children
went to the local school, and soending up here has been quite a
(05:49):
journey for me.
And so my first child, my son,went to school, and there's
quite a big gap between mychildren, and so I once said to
somebody I was really sad thatI'd only ever had one child.
That's just how life worked outfor me.
But if I ever got to come backand have another life, I would
be braver.
And then I suddenly foundmyself expecting my daughter at
(06:11):
the age of 39, not particularlyplanned.
And it suddenly struck me thatI was at the age of 39, not
particularly planned and itsuddenly struck me that I was
going to get to live a wholeother life in this life, and so
I needed to be braver.
And so I am always trying torepair for my son that I wish I
hadn't.
You know that, maya Angelou, assoon as you know better, you
(06:34):
should do better.
And so I was young when I hadhim, I didn't know that there
was this whole alternative worldout there, where there were no
dragons, grew up in such atraditional way.
The idea of living somewhereelse and not putting your
children in school and justgrowing your own food and, you
(06:55):
know, just being self-sufficient.
That wasn't consideredsomething that successful people
did, that was something thatodd people did who couldn't
quite make it work in the realworld, and I just sort of grew
up with that.
And then the more I traveledand the more people I met, the
more I questioned this beliefsystem and the more I started to
(07:15):
explore and the more I movedmyself from this very
traditional view of the world inthat standard paradigm out into
the big world where everythingjust and I'm still learning and
I'm still growing and I'm stillmeeting new people.
And so my daughter is on thisjourney with me and she's now 12
(07:37):
, nearly 13.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I, like you, said there were no dragons.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
There's an expression in English there be or old
English, there be dragons.
You know, when you used to seea picture of a map and then off
the map there be dragons.
And it was just this sense thatthere's a map that you're
allowed to live in and raiseyour children in, and that's
what everybody does.
And then there's dragons.
Don't go off the map, don't doit differently, and then when
(08:05):
you step off the map, it's justthe most interesting people.
There are no dragons.
You can somehow make it work.
Food is on the table and itgets to your mouth, and you get
to travel, and you still get todo other things.
And the world doesn't end, itjust becomes much more beautiful
.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Cade, don't you miss the British winters.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
No, no, there's not very much I miss.
I miss my friends, I miss myfamily, I miss people, but I
don't miss what it does to mynervous system to be in that
environment where everybodyfeels too pressured to move too
fast, to achieve too much, to dotoo many things.
(08:51):
I have found that the morenatural rhythm of living in the
Dominican Republic is much, muchhealthier for me body, soul and
spirit.
Natural food, natural rhythmjust all of those things are
(09:14):
definitely, definitely workingfor me yeah, well, how did it
become the dominican republic?
so I came here I about five, sixyears ago.
I sold everything.
I had to go out and find theanswers.
I was going to travel the worldand meet alternative people who
ran alternative educationprovisions and the families who
(09:37):
went to them.
And we set off two weeks aheadof COVID, and one of our first
stops was here in the DominicanRepublic.
And so we decided, rather thanhave a knee jerk, jump and try
and go somewhere else we hadnothing to go back to, so we
decided to stay here, and then,as I couldn't really travel
(09:58):
anymore, I I kind of came to therealization that I already knew
everything I needed to know toget started and everything else
that I wanted to learn.
I could invite to come here andwe could cross-pollinate
together and lots of differentpeople could come and we could
(10:20):
all learn from each other, andso that's kind of how the hive
was born nice that makes sensemakes sense.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It's funny when you said you don't miss anything and
the nervous system and you knowhow it feels to be back or how
it would feel to be in England.
I was just about to say that wehappen to be back in Denmark,
where we originate from.
We've been traveling forsomething like seven a little
over seven years, I think and Iwas about to say I think Denmark
(10:54):
is growing on me.
I think maybe feel better aboutbeing part of that whole system
now, after seven plus years.
But then I thought about it andI realized I feel like shit.
Honestly, we've been here for amonth and actually it's not
growing on me, it's it's eatingmy.
(11:18):
I mean eating my.
I need to get out, I think yeahI think I need to get away from
here.
I think there is somethingexactly about that whole.
I think there's something aboutyour home country, yes, but
there's also this whole Westernlifestyle, all the I don't know.
(11:38):
It's quite complicated becausethere's always with all the
travelers we meet, and alsowithin ourselves, there's
something we're leaving, there'sa reason we leave, and it's not
just about the culture, andit's not just about the culture.
It's also about maybe being atraveler or maybe just needing a
(11:58):
different.
You could have the naturallifestyle in england.
You could have your days andyour nights and your rhythms,
and you could have natural foodin england.
I've just been there for amonth, yes, but it's just
somehow you don't.
Somehow there's something aboutthe way the whole thing is
structured that just doesn'treally.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's not natural there.
I think that's the difference.
Here it's natural, it's warm,so that helps.
So everybody lives outside andthey're all barefoot and the
fruit is just on the tree andit's just easier to go to the
beach to catch a fish, to pick amango, to flip-flop around, to
(12:39):
stop when you're tired.
It's just easier.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Kate, you being from the UK, we have been there a lot
.
We have friends over there.
We attend a home educationfamily festival every summer,
which we love.
We have also been there whenschool is on and school starts
and for me it feels very weirdto see all the school uniforms.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh yes.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
How was it to wear them, as you have been brought
up in UK?
Is it as weird as I think, ordoes it get normal?
For me, it really looks like.
Actually, sometimes I'm like,oh, where's Harry Potter?
Because I think that all ofthem are like small, yeah it
becomes not, it's normalizedright.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So until you go somewhere else, you don't
realize how abnormal your normalis.
And my school uniform was and Ihad before my hair went white.
I had quite red hair, so Ididn't like wearing a pink
blouse with my red hair andeverybody had to wear the same
clothes and you were policed onthe clothes that you wore, so
(13:48):
how long your skirt was, whetheryour shirt was tucked in.
So all of the focus was onconformity and I was probably
already a non-conformist.
I think I was bornnon-conformist and so therefore
I was always.
(14:09):
I can only ever remember feelingdeeply uncomfortable, deeply
uncomfortable in the clothesthat I wore, deeply
uncomfortable in the shape thatI was supposed to be, and I no
longer feel that way.
It's like I finally, at the endof middle age, just chose to
move myself to somewhere where Icould be comfortable, and
(14:32):
school uniform was part of thatand school rules were part of
that.
Just chose to move myself tosomewhere where I could be
comfortable, and school uniformwas part of that and school
rules were part of that, and Idon't.
But the good thing about it isyou don't have to think about
what you're wearing every day.
You just wake up and put theclothes on, so it does allow you
to think about use some of yourbrain space for different
things.
Some tech entrepreneurs wearthe same clothes every day,
(14:53):
don't they?
They just have one style oftrousers and one style of
T-shirt and I guess that's thesame for the same reason.
Fewer decisions every day, butthat's the only good thing I can
think of about school uniforms.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So, Kate, what is the plans with the Hive in the
coming years?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
the hive in the coming years.
So still the same really tojust continue to attract
families who are interested inraising kind of wholehearted
children who've got a broadrange of skills, a diverse set
of knowledge and relationshipswith people all over the world.
(15:34):
So it's kind of similarthinking families really who are
curious and engaged in thegrowing up process, how they are
growing up together as a family, how their children are growing
into young adults.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But for the people listening, then we're here in
Denmark.
Kate is all the way in theDominican Republic with a
styling and it's a wonderfultool, but one of the issues it
has is that it sometimes jump inbetween satellites and it gives
some breaks.
So our talk is a little abrupt.
I hope I can edit it so youcan't hear it.
(16:11):
But it also makes that we willdo a shorter episode this time
and then once in the future wecan record a longer.
So, Kate, what is the mostimportant thing you have learned
about?
What kids needs to grow up?
Family needs need to grow up.
(16:31):
What is it you are sharing ofall the things you have walked
through?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
so my big thing is self-regulation, nervous system
regulation.
I think that it is missing frommost models of education and I
think it's essential to feelingstrong and well and able to
build upon a foundation.
So, understanding your nervoussystem and understanding that
(16:59):
your feelings drive yourbehaviors, your behaviors drive
your patterns of action and theydrive your belief system.
If you can manage your ownnervous system, you can feel in
control of how you behave andhow you act.
That impacts how you feel, howyou think, how you learn and
(17:21):
everything else.
So my big thing is teachingnervous system regulation and,
on top of that, learning how howto learn.
So I think that if the wholeworld understood themselves,
they understood what drives them, they understood what makes
them act as they do and theycould recognize their own
patterns, that we would all beable to feel better about
(17:44):
ourselves, understand oneanother better and, hopefully,
make more peaceful choices.
I think that's what underpinsall of my work, but I also think
it's quite particular.
It's not widespread yet.
It's becoming more widespread,but it's not widespread enough
yet, and so that's my thing.
(18:07):
That's what we teach at theHive, that's what we learn here
together, but we practice out inthe world.
So I would just love morefamilies to come so that we can
learn together.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I hope this episode can help with that.
But for the people justlistening, Kate, how do they
find you?
How do they get in contact withyou?
What is the name of thehomepage if you can share these
things?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So it's.
Thehiveadventurecom is thewebsite.
We are at the Hive Adventure onInstagram, Facebook.
I'm on LinkedIn as Miss KateMcAllister.
That's kind of got all myprofessional stuff on there as
well.
But you need the Hive Adventure.
So if you just put the Hive,there's lots of hive things.
(18:50):
So we're called the HiveAdventure and we have a pink
hibiscus flower as our logo.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Wonderful.
I will put it in the show notesand we will cut this episode a
little short due to a laggyinternet.
But, kate, it was a pleasuretalking with you and I can see
you are a place that looks warmand wonderful.
We have had nice days inDenmark, but right now it's gray
outside and I am envious.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Definitely would rather be the Dominican.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well, you're welcome to come and bring your kids and
see if that helps your nervoussystem reset a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Sounds like fun.
Sounds like a good plan.
Thanks a lot for your time,Kate.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Thank you for having me on Take care.
Today we are together with Kate McAllister, and Kate
comes recommended from a friendwho have also appeared on the
podcast, rebecca.
We talked with her about whoshould we find as guests and she
said you should talk with Kate.
So, kate, here we are, makeRebecca proud.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'll do my best.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So, and that's basically all I know about you,
kate.
So I was on the way to thepodcast here, thinking about
where should we start, and Ithink I would like to start with
what makes your brain tick,what makes you happy, what is it
that drives you?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Gosh, that's a big question, Okay, human beings is
it that drives you gosh?
That's a big question, okay?
Um, human beings human beingsand how to support them to feel
as energized and contented andpurposeful as possible.
And that's my family, mychildren, my friends, people
(01:08):
I've never met before.
I think that that is somethingthat has always driven me and
it's never become boring.
Sometimes there's been periodsin my life where I've put myself
in a position to support aparticular group of people and
it's been really challenging forme, but it's never been
(01:28):
something I said I don't want todo that anymore, I've had
enough.
I think I've moved that, thatsense of my purpose.
Maybe I think as I've grownolder, I've noticed the pattern
and thought that's the patternin my life, maybe that's
something to do with my purpose,and so that's what makes me
happy.
So, learning about how humansfunction, learning about how
(01:52):
minds work, learning about howbodies work, learning about how
energetic relationships work,learning in humans they're my
two things that I'm mostpassionate about.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wonderful.
One of my go-to solutions ischocolate, and I haven't had
enough today, I think, because Ihave kind of a low energy day,
so I hope that is okay.
Bye, but what is it you areworking with?
Rebecca shared that there'sthis hype thingy.
(02:22):
Can you put some words on it?
That?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
there's this hive thingy.
Can you put some words on it?
Yeah, so I started anorganization called the Human
Hive nearly 10 years ago with afriend of mine, darren Abrahams,
who is a trauma therapist, andthat organization offers
training and support to peoplewho want to do interesting
(02:45):
things in the world to supportother human beings.
And before that I was aschoolteacher in the United
Kingdom and I kind of startedoff being a traditional educator
.
Very quickly became much morefascinated in learning and
children and works, and so Imoved all the way along the
(03:06):
spectrum from traditional toprogressive, got to the end of
the spectrum, jumped off andthen went off the map and
started looking at alternativemodels for learning who was
doing what out in the world,learning who was doing what out
(03:27):
in the world.
And I ended up in the DominicanRepublic and people come
together and we work in aconcentrated way, six weeks at a
time, on one of the globalgoals.
So we learn about a globalchallenge and we look at it
through the local lens of here.
How does that affect people andplanet in Dominican Republic?
And how does that affect peopleand planet in Dominican
Republic?
And how does that affect peopleand planet wherever you're from
in the world, and then we lookat designing a solution that
(03:50):
will leave an impact in ourlocal community.
So we do lots of social impactprojects with local people here,
and what we learn through doingthat we everybody takes back to
where they came from or back towherever they're going next,
and so they become more skilledat noticing what's going on in
(04:12):
the world around them, and ifthey feel strongly that they
want to do something about it,they have a skill set and a
global network of other peopleto do something about it with.
That's what the Hive is.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Is it families or educators, or which kind of
people is it attracting?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So families come bring their children.
The children mostly work on theprojects and the parents can
help if they want to and getinvolved if they want to.
And I also run a similarprogram for young well, adults,
of any age actually, but ittends to be young adults who are
coming at the end of universityand so they come and train with
(04:52):
me and then they work with usin these projects and they work
around Cabrera.
So it's sort of blending thetwo aspects of my life really my
educational background and myhumanitarian human skill
building that all come togetherin this.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, and I actually don't know what about you and
kids?
I have two children, nice anddid you end up on this spectrum
where you ended up homeschoolingor you couldn't yeah yeah yeah,
like us.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So my first child is a fully grown adult now.
He's off in the world doing hisown thing, and he went to
regular school.
I grew up in a very traditionalfamily.
My dad drove trucks, my mom wasat home, the three children
went to the local school, and soending up here has been quite a
(05:49):
journey for me.
And so my first child, my son,went to school, and there's
quite a big gap between mychildren, and so I once said to
somebody I was really sad thatI'd only ever had one child.
That's just how life worked outfor me.
But if I ever got to come backand have another life, I would
be braver.
And then I suddenly foundmyself expecting my daughter at
(06:11):
the age of 39, not particularlyplanned.
And it suddenly struck me thatI was at the age of 39, not
particularly planned and itsuddenly struck me that I was
going to get to live a wholeother life in this life, and so
I needed to be braver.
And so I am always trying torepair for my son that I wish I
hadn't.
You know that, maya Angelou, assoon as you know better, you
(06:34):
should do better.
And so I was young when I hadhim, I didn't know that there
was this whole alternative worldout there, where there were no
dragons, grew up in such atraditional way.
The idea of living somewhereelse and not putting your
children in school and justgrowing your own food and, you
(06:55):
know, just being self-sufficient.
That wasn't consideredsomething that successful people
did, that was something thatodd people did who couldn't
quite make it work in the realworld, and I just sort of grew
up with that.
And then the more I traveledand the more people I met, the
more I questioned this beliefsystem and the more I started to
(07:15):
explore and the more I movedmyself from this very
traditional view of the world inthat standard paradigm out into
the big world where everythingjust and I'm still learning and
I'm still growing and I'm stillmeeting new people.
And so my daughter is on thisjourney with me and she's now 12
(07:37):
, nearly 13.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I, like you, said there were no dragons.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
There's an expression in English there be or old
English, there be dragons.
You know, when you used to seea picture of a map and then off
the map there be dragons.
And it was just this sense thatthere's a map that you're
allowed to live in and raiseyour children in, and that's
what everybody does.
And then there's dragons.
Don't go off the map, don't doit differently, and then when
(08:05):
you step off the map, it's justthe most interesting people.
There are no dragons.
You can somehow make it work.
Food is on the table and itgets to your mouth, and you get
to travel, and you still get todo other things.
And the world doesn't end, itjust becomes much more beautiful
.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Cade, don't you miss the British winters.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
No, no, there's not very much I miss.
I miss my friends, I miss myfamily, I miss people, but I
don't miss what it does to mynervous system to be in that
environment where everybodyfeels too pressured to move too
fast, to achieve too much, to dotoo many things.
(08:51):
I have found that the morenatural rhythm of living in the
Dominican Republic is much, muchhealthier for me body, soul and
spirit.
Natural food, natural rhythmjust all of those things are
(09:14):
definitely, definitely workingfor me yeah, well, how did it
become the dominican republic?
so I came here I about five, sixyears ago.
I sold everything.
I had to go out and find theanswers.
I was going to travel the worldand meet alternative people who
ran alternative educationprovisions and the families who
(09:37):
went to them.
And we set off two weeks aheadof COVID, and one of our first
stops was here in the DominicanRepublic.
And so we decided, rather thanhave a knee jerk, jump and try
and go somewhere else we hadnothing to go back to, so we
decided to stay here, and then,as I couldn't really travel
(09:58):
anymore, I I kind of came to therealization that I already knew
everything I needed to know toget started and everything else
that I wanted to learn.
I could invite to come here andwe could cross-pollinate
together and lots of differentpeople could come and we could
(10:20):
all learn from each other, andso that's kind of how the hive
was born nice that makes sensemakes sense.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It's funny when you said you don't miss anything and
the nervous system and you knowhow it feels to be back or how
it would feel to be in England.
I was just about to say that wehappen to be back in Denmark,
where we originate from.
We've been traveling forsomething like seven a little
over seven years, I think and Iwas about to say I think Denmark
(10:54):
is growing on me.
I think maybe feel better aboutbeing part of that whole system
now, after seven plus years.
But then I thought about it andI realized I feel like shit.
Honestly, we've been here for amonth and actually it's not
growing on me, it's it's eatingmy.
(11:18):
I mean eating my.
I need to get out, I think yeahI think I need to get away from
here.
I think there is somethingexactly about that whole.
I think there's something aboutyour home country, yes, but
there's also this whole Westernlifestyle, all the I don't know.
(11:38):
It's quite complicated becausethere's always with all the
travelers we meet, and alsowithin ourselves, there's
something we're leaving, there'sa reason we leave, and it's not
just about the culture, andit's not just about the culture.
It's also about maybe being atraveler or maybe just needing a
(11:58):
different.
You could have the naturallifestyle in england.
You could have your days andyour nights and your rhythms,
and you could have natural foodin england.
I've just been there for amonth, yes, but it's just
somehow you don't.
Somehow there's something aboutthe way the whole thing is
structured that just doesn'treally.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's not natural there.
I think that's the difference.
Here it's natural, it's warm,so that helps.
So everybody lives outside andthey're all barefoot and the
fruit is just on the tree andit's just easier to go to the
beach to catch a fish, to pick amango, to flip-flop around, to
(12:39):
stop when you're tired.
It's just easier.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Kate, you being from the UK, we have been there a lot
.
We have friends over there.
We attend a home educationfamily festival every summer,
which we love.
We have also been there whenschool is on and school starts
and for me it feels very weirdto see all the school uniforms.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh yes.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
How was it to wear them, as you have been brought
up in UK?
Is it as weird as I think, ordoes it get normal?
For me, it really looks like.
Actually, sometimes I'm like,oh, where's Harry Potter?
Because I think that all ofthem are like small, yeah it
becomes not, it's normalizedright.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So until you go somewhere else, you don't
realize how abnormal your normalis.
And my school uniform was and Ihad before my hair went white.
I had quite red hair, so Ididn't like wearing a pink
blouse with my red hair andeverybody had to wear the same
clothes and you were policed onthe clothes that you wore, so
(13:48):
how long your skirt was, whetheryour shirt was tucked in.
So all of the focus was onconformity and I was probably
already a non-conformist.
I think I was bornnon-conformist and so therefore
I was always.
(14:09):
I can only ever remember feelingdeeply uncomfortable, deeply
uncomfortable in the clothesthat I wore, deeply
uncomfortable in the shape thatI was supposed to be, and I no
longer feel that way.
It's like I finally, at the endof middle age, just chose to
move myself to somewhere where Icould be comfortable, and
(14:32):
school uniform was part of thatand school rules were part of
that.
Just chose to move myself tosomewhere where I could be
comfortable, and school uniformwas part of that and school
rules were part of that, and Idon't.
But the good thing about it isyou don't have to think about
what you're wearing every day.
You just wake up and put theclothes on, so it does allow you
to think about use some of yourbrain space for different
things.
Some tech entrepreneurs wearthe same clothes every day,
(14:53):
don't they?
They just have one style oftrousers and one style of
T-shirt and I guess that's thesame for the same reason.
Fewer decisions every day, butthat's the only good thing I can
think of about school uniforms.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So, Kate, what is the plans with the Hive in the
coming years?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
the hive in the coming years.
So still the same really tojust continue to attract
families who are interested inraising kind of wholehearted
children who've got a broadrange of skills, a diverse set
of knowledge and relationshipswith people all over the world.
(15:34):
So it's kind of similarthinking families really who are
curious and engaged in thegrowing up process, how they are
growing up together as a family, how their children are growing
into young adults.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But for the people listening, then we're here in
Denmark.
Kate is all the way in theDominican Republic with a
styling and it's a wonderfultool, but one of the issues it
has is that it sometimes jump inbetween satellites and it gives
some breaks.
So our talk is a little abrupt.
I hope I can edit it so youcan't hear it.
(16:11):
But it also makes that we willdo a shorter episode this time
and then once in the future wecan record a longer.
So, Kate, what is the mostimportant thing you have learned
about?
What kids needs to grow up?
Family needs need to grow up.
(16:31):
What is it you are sharing ofall the things you have walked
through?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
so my big thing is self-regulation, nervous system
regulation.
I think that it is missing frommost models of education and I
think it's essential to feelingstrong and well and able to
build upon a foundation.
So, understanding your nervoussystem and understanding that
(16:59):
your feelings drive yourbehaviors, your behaviors drive
your patterns of action and theydrive your belief system.
If you can manage your ownnervous system, you can feel in
control of how you behave andhow you act.
That impacts how you feel, howyou think, how you learn and
(17:21):
everything else.
So my big thing is teachingnervous system regulation and,
on top of that, learning how howto learn.
So I think that if the wholeworld understood themselves,
they understood what drives them, they understood what makes
them act as they do and theycould recognize their own
patterns, that we would all beable to feel better about
(17:44):
ourselves, understand oneanother better and, hopefully,
make more peaceful choices.
I think that's what underpinsall of my work, but I also think
it's quite particular.
It's not widespread yet.
It's becoming more widespread,but it's not widespread enough
yet, and so that's my thing.
(18:07):
That's what we teach at theHive, that's what we learn here
together, but we practice out inthe world.
So I would just love morefamilies to come so that we can
learn together.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I hope this episode can help with that.
But for the people justlistening, Kate, how do they
find you?
How do they get in contact withyou?
What is the name of thehomepage if you can share these
things?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So it's.
Thehiveadventurecom is thewebsite.
We are at the Hive Adventure onInstagram, Facebook.
I'm on LinkedIn as Miss KateMcAllister.
That's kind of got all myprofessional stuff on there as
well.
But you need the Hive Adventure.
So if you just put the Hive,there's lots of hive things.
(18:50):
So we're called the HiveAdventure and we have a pink
hibiscus flower as our logo.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Wonderful.
I will put it in the show notesand we will cut this episode a
little short due to a laggyinternet.
But, kate, it was a pleasuretalking with you and I can see
you are a place that looks warmand wonderful.
We have had nice days inDenmark, but right now it's gray
outside and I am envious.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Definitely would rather be the Dominican.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well, you're welcome to come and bring your kids and
see if that helps your nervoussystem reset a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Sounds like fun.
Sounds like a good plan.
Thanks a lot for your time,Kate.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Thank you for having me on Take care.
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