April 25, 2025 • 19 mins
What if every moment of your life—from a simple nature walk to a challenging conversation—holds the potential for profound personal transformation?
The Self-Realized, Shatter Your Limits Podcast's 100th episode with me, Linton Bergsen, delves deep into the fascinating interplay between human and spiritual intelligence that shapes your experiences. When you're hiking through nature, fully absorbed in the sights and sounds around you, you're experiencing transformation through both your physical senses (human intelligence) and your deeper connection to something beyond yourself (spiritual intelligence). This same dynamic plays out in meditation, relationships, career decisions, and virtually every aspect of our lives.
Most of us operate by giving approximately 90% of our attention to human intelligence—what we can see, hear, and logically process—while relegating our spiritual intelligence to a mere afterthought. A gut feeling that something isn't quite right in a conversation. That's your spiritual intelligence speaking through intuition, trying to alert you that what you're hearing and what you're feeling aren't aligning. Learning to recognize and honor these moments of disconnect represents a powerful opportunity for personal transformation.
The key insight lies in reversing this imbalanced approach. Rather than starting with physical perception and human reasoning, then occasionally acknowledging spiritual insights, what if you prioritized your spiritual intelligence first? This means feeling deeply within yourself whether something resonates spiritually before investing emotional energy and taking action. Finding your ideal balance—perhaps giving 60-70% weight to spiritual guidance and 30-40% to human intelligence—creates an equilibrium that brings profound benefits: greater peace of mind, enhanced well-being, and consistently better decision-making.
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Linton Bergsen (00:01):
Welcome to the Self-Realized Podcast with
Linton Bergsen, where you willshatter your limits.
I am not much into theself-help industry as much as
I'm into the self-realizedindividual, which is you.
What matters most to you, howyou get there and the obstacles
that may be in your way.
If you would like to be part ofthis podcast and part of that
(00:22):
discussion, I welcome you herewith an open heart, open mind
and open arms.
So, without further ado, let'sget on with the podcast.
(00:46):
A very warm welcome to episodenumber 100, Personal
Transformation (00:47):
Combining Human and Spiritual Intelligence.
What does that really mean toyou in your own journey?
That's a question that you maywant to ask yourself when you
reflect upon that questiondeeply.
What does personaltransformation mean to you?
What is it you come up with?
(01:09):
What is it that you're focusingon when we use the term
personal transformation?
In this episode, we're going tolook at the term and the actual
realization of what personaltransformation is on a very deep
and profound level, becausewhen you look at personal
(01:31):
transformation, it is going torequire the combination of human
and spiritual intelligence thatyou work with every day to
create in you the transformationthat you're trying to achieve.
Let me give an example of that.
If you are in nature taking ahike and you are observing and
(01:55):
immersed in everything aroundyou, you are now in a state of
personal transformation.
Why?
Because the observation of yoursurroundings is creating a
transformation within yourself.
But what is creating thetransformation is the
observation.
(02:15):
What are you using to createthe transformation?
It would be your eyes.
It would be one of your senses.
Sight, you might also behearing sounds, for example,
(02:37):
birds, the wind, a runningstream, sounds that would affect
how you're transforming yourhike from just a walk into a
personal experience that makesyou feel better.
You have had a personaltransformation during your hike
because there is an intelligencein nature and there is an
intelligence within you.
So what has happened on yourhike is a personal
(02:59):
transformation through yourhuman intelligence and spiritual
intelligence.
Working in combination to helpyou have a transformative
experience.
When you observe life throughthe lens of the two
intelligences working within youto create a vibration, a
(03:21):
transformative energy, aresonance that resonates
internally and externally, younow have received a
transformative experience.
Another example would be inmeditation.
When you go into meditation, itis a physical experience of you
sitting there, but also you'rehaving a spiritual experience of
(03:44):
you disconnecting from the bodyand quietening the mind.
Because that is essentiallywhat the correct meditation is
doing in order for you to have aspiritual awareness and
intelligence working through youand with you to transform your
present moment.
Understanding the interactionbetween human intelligence and
(04:09):
spiritual intelligence gives youpersonal transformation.
When you really begin tounderstand and you begin to
become aware of them in a verysuccinct and meaningful way, you
begin to experience what truepersonal transformation is.
(04:31):
Let me give you another exampleof personal transformation
working in everyday life,whether it's a business or
personal setting.
If you are speaking withsomeone and they're standing in
front of you and you are workingwith your human intelligence at
this moment in time and youfeel that something is wrong,
(04:53):
something is not quite right.
What they are presenting, howthe conversation is going, the
way the energy is flowing, it'soff.
Now you have the humanintelligence working, but you
also have another componenttransforming the situation,
transforming the conversation,the interaction.
It is the spiritualintelligence working within you
(05:17):
that is saying to yousomething's off, something's not
quite right, you can't put yourfinger on it, but even in the
conversation there is atransformative experience
occurring.
You're feeling something andyou're hearing something.
The two are not syncing up.
That is a personaltransformative experience.
(05:37):
If you recognize it as such, itis a personal transformation
that has occurred, if you say toyourself at that moment in time
what I feel and what I'mhearing through my human
intelligence are not syncing up.
That is your spiritualintelligence speaking to you, as
(06:02):
I've mentioned in many previousepisodes, through intuition.
What you feel intuitively andwhat you're experiencing in the
physical realm are not the same.
So now you're literallycombining spiritual intelligence
with human intelligence to comeup with a realization within
(06:23):
yourself that things are notquite as they appear to be.
When you are combining spiritualintelligence with human
intelligence, what it means isthat every moment of your life,
if acknowledged and you arerealizing it as such which a
(06:44):
self-realized individual does isa moment of personal
transformation.
Now, that is a profoundunderstanding and awareness and
you develop that, ongoing everyday until it becomes second
nature within yourself.
That every experience you'rehaving you understand and
perceive as a transformativeexperience between the human
(07:07):
intelligence that you havewithin yourself, in the physical
realm and the spiritualintelligence that you have from
the other realms that areimportant for you to recognize
and develop, because you'redealing with so many ongoing
events in this physical worldit's impossible to decipher them
(07:29):
just with the physicalcomponent of yourself, because
we all know that we have aspiritual intelligence that is
working consistently with usalso.
That spiritual intelligence isguiding us, willing us, wanting
us to be in situations that makeus feel good, create a better
sense of well-being.
Going back to the hikingexample I gave earlier, the
(07:54):
reason you may go for a hike isto feel better, to have that
sense of well-being that occurssometimes when you are in nature
and giving yourself theopportunity to breathe and smell
and feel what it is that onlybeing in nature can give to you.
Understanding and acceptingthat we are, in our personal
(08:20):
transformation, consistentlyintegrating, combining,
intertwining and working with aspiritual intelligence and a
human intelligence.
What's the difference betweenthe two?
The spiritual intelligenceworks with and through you
through intangibles.
(08:40):
The human intelligence workswith and through you through
tangibles.
I explain in more detail howto experience the spiritual
intangible experiences andintegrate them with the human
tangible experiences.
In episode number 65, FivePractical Keys to Human and
(09:03):
Spiritual Success Every Day.
The episode explains whathappens when you begin to
integrate the five physicalsenses with the spiritual
intangibles in order for you tohave an intelligent experience
(09:25):
between both dimensions,spiritual and physical.
Your personal transformation.
The key to it is recognizingthat you are at all times, in
the examples I have given,working with both intelligences,
(09:45):
but recognizing that andbecoming aware of it and using
the information that bothintelligences are giving you in
combination is the key to yourpersonal transformation and your
own self-realization.
Understanding that and workingwith it very closely and
(10:09):
becoming aware of it as a realreality in your life as the
example I gave to you earlier inregard to having a conversation
with someone, understandingthat what you're hearing, what
you're feeling may not be thesame thing Combine that
information, acknowledge it andbegin to use it so you don't
(10:32):
waste your time with being tooconcerned about what's only in
front of you physically,perceiving it only with your
human intelligence.
At the same time, don't becomeoverwhelmed by what you might be
feeling spiritually.
It's balance.
Essentially, that is whatpersonal transformation means
(10:58):
that you have been able tobalance successfully your
spiritual intelligence and yourhuman intelligence to give you a
balanced, focused, centeredplace of well-being to make the
correct decisions from in allareas of your life.
If you begin to understand thatas a definition of personal
(11:22):
transformation in your life,what begins to unfold within you
is a deep realization andawareness of something that is
working very intelligently withyou from the inside out, giving
(11:45):
you the information that youneed from the spiritual
intelligence to act upon withyour human intelligence.
When you begin to, as it were,reverse the flow of working from
the human intelligence firstand acknowledging your spiritual
(12:05):
intelligence second which a lotof us do it's an afterthought,
so to speak, that maybe I felt acertain way and didn't act on
it you acted on your humaninformation and intelligence
first instead of prioritizingyour spiritual intelligence.
(12:27):
When you begin to walk and movein the realization of let me
have a personal transformation,of the reversal of energy,
moving forward and letting mylife flow from spiritual
(12:48):
awareness and intelligence andthen moving that energy into my
human existence, my humanintelligence, experiment with
that for a while, work with itfor a while, start feeling
deeply within yourself what itis that you want to, for example
(13:12):
, do with your life as a lifepurpose.
When it comes to relationships,feel deeply within yourself, do
they resonate with you beforeyou act on them, and put your
human emotions and humanintelligence behind them.
(13:33):
Because once you have put yourhuman emotion and intelligence
behind a situation, acircumstance, person, invested
emotionally in different people,time has gone by.
When you take a moment to stopand transform that situation,
(13:55):
that's what personaltransformation is.
It's transforming eachsituation personally that you
find yourself in, by gettingcalm, getting quiet, focusing
internally.
Before acting.
You will find that the resultsthat you get from that
(14:18):
transformation are verydifferent than if you just act
from the human intelligencealone, which I would suggest to
you is 90% of what most peopleare doing, and giving 10% to
their spiritual awareness andintelligence.
If you can reverse that andgive at least 50% to your
(14:43):
spiritual intelligence, I wouldgive a little bit more because I
think your spiritualintelligence is much more
important.
Maybe 60-70% to your spiritualintelligence and 40-30% to your
human action and intelligence.
You now have, as the episode istitled a personal transformation
(15:07):
through combining yourspiritual and human intelligence
.
The percentage that you want touse to combine those two is up
to you.
What I would suggest to you isthis as you begin to run the
experiment on this, thisspiritual intelligence and human
(15:31):
intelligence working in yourlife, and how much you want to
put on one or the other to helpyour personal transformation,
the combination, the balance ofthe scale it is my sincere
suggestion and opinion to you.
We'll lean a little bit moretowards you beginning to
(15:56):
understand that your spiritualintelligence has a lot more
weight than your humanintelligence in making the right
decisions, and the foundationof everything you do will be
governed by the divineintelligence, God, Cosmic
(16:17):
Consciousness, whatever you'dlike to call it in your life.
The governing principle ofpersonal transformation is
acknowledging.
First of all, you have twointelligences, as I mentioned,
spiritual and human, working incombination.
(16:38):
The question that you will askyourself and answer as you go
along in life is which one doyou want to develop more and
which one gives you the bestadvice through intuition,
through a sense of well-being,through a sense of purpose, and
(17:02):
is consistent in the informationit gives you?
When you decide if it's humanor spiritual, you'll decide how
you want that combination towork and what percentage you
give each of those to have themost effect in your life.
And when you do work with acombination and you begin to see
(17:25):
the results that it gives you,you will understand that your
personal transformation occursin every moment of your life,
because your transformation isnot just happening on a daily
basis, on a weekly basis.
It is actually happening momentto moment, with every thought
(17:50):
and action you take based uponthe decisions you choose to make
with the correct combination ofspiritual intelligence and
human intelligence.
Like anything in life, it'sabout balance.
(18:13):
Balance your scales correctlyand your personal transformation
will reflect that.
And when you have balance, youhave equilibrium, and I know
that equilibrium is somethingthat you would want in your life
as much as you can possibly get.
Balance your scales betweenhuman and spiritual intelligence
(18:37):
, have a positive personaltransformation and you will see
that as you go forward in lifeby application of what has been
presented in today's episode,you will have a greater sense of
well-being, peace of mind and,above all, an unexplainable
(19:01):
sense of balance that can onlycome from correctly aligning the
combination of your spiritualintelligence and your human
intelligence together.
I sincerely appreciate youlistening to the podcast.
(19:22):
Please subscribe so you do notmiss any upcoming episodes.
Whatever platform you're on,please leave a rating and review
.
I would greatly appreciate it.
Any additional information onme, Linton Bergsen, and my
five-star reviewed book,Purposeful Vision, is available
at selfrealized.
com which is all one word.
You can also leave any commentsor suggestions on the website.
(19:43):
I look forward to connectingwith you very soon and take good
care of yourself.
Welcome to the Self-Realized Podcast with
Linton Bergsen, where you willshatter your limits.
I am not much into theself-help industry as much as
I'm into the self-realizedindividual, which is you.
What matters most to you, howyou get there and the obstacles
that may be in your way.
If you would like to be part ofthis podcast and part of that
(00:22):
discussion, I welcome you herewith an open heart, open mind
and open arms.
So, without further ado, let'sget on with the podcast.
(00:46):
A very warm welcome to episodenumber 100, Personal
Transformation (00:47):
Combining Human and Spiritual Intelligence.
What does that really mean toyou in your own journey?
That's a question that you maywant to ask yourself when you
reflect upon that questiondeeply.
What does personaltransformation mean to you?
What is it you come up with?
(01:09):
What is it that you're focusingon when we use the term
personal transformation?
In this episode, we're going tolook at the term and the actual
realization of what personaltransformation is on a very deep
and profound level, becausewhen you look at personal
(01:31):
transformation, it is going torequire the combination of human
and spiritual intelligence thatyou work with every day to
create in you the transformationthat you're trying to achieve.
Let me give an example of that.
If you are in nature taking ahike and you are observing and
(01:55):
immersed in everything aroundyou, you are now in a state of
personal transformation.
Why?
Because the observation of yoursurroundings is creating a
transformation within yourself.
But what is creating thetransformation is the
observation.
(02:15):
What are you using to createthe transformation?
It would be your eyes.
It would be one of your senses.
Sight, you might also behearing sounds, for example,
(02:37):
birds, the wind, a runningstream, sounds that would affect
how you're transforming yourhike from just a walk into a
personal experience that makesyou feel better.
You have had a personaltransformation during your hike
because there is an intelligencein nature and there is an
intelligence within you.
So what has happened on yourhike is a personal
(02:59):
transformation through yourhuman intelligence and spiritual
intelligence.
Working in combination to helpyou have a transformative
experience.
When you observe life throughthe lens of the two
intelligences working within youto create a vibration, a
(03:21):
transformative energy, aresonance that resonates
internally and externally, younow have received a
transformative experience.
Another example would be inmeditation.
When you go into meditation, itis a physical experience of you
sitting there, but also you'rehaving a spiritual experience of
(03:44):
you disconnecting from the bodyand quietening the mind.
Because that is essentiallywhat the correct meditation is
doing in order for you to have aspiritual awareness and
intelligence working through youand with you to transform your
present moment.
Understanding the interactionbetween human intelligence and
(04:09):
spiritual intelligence gives youpersonal transformation.
When you really begin tounderstand and you begin to
become aware of them in a verysuccinct and meaningful way, you
begin to experience what truepersonal transformation is.
(04:31):
Let me give you another exampleof personal transformation
working in everyday life,whether it's a business or
personal setting.
If you are speaking withsomeone and they're standing in
front of you and you are workingwith your human intelligence at
this moment in time and youfeel that something is wrong,
(04:53):
something is not quite right.
What they are presenting, howthe conversation is going, the
way the energy is flowing, it'soff.
Now you have the humanintelligence working, but you
also have another componenttransforming the situation,
transforming the conversation,the interaction.
It is the spiritualintelligence working within you
(05:17):
that is saying to yousomething's off, something's not
quite right, you can't put yourfinger on it, but even in the
conversation there is atransformative experience
occurring.
You're feeling something andyou're hearing something.
The two are not syncing up.
That is a personaltransformative experience.
(05:37):
If you recognize it as such, itis a personal transformation
that has occurred, if you say toyourself at that moment in time
what I feel and what I'mhearing through my human
intelligence are not syncing up.
That is your spiritualintelligence speaking to you, as
(06:02):
I've mentioned in many previousepisodes, through intuition.
What you feel intuitively andwhat you're experiencing in the
physical realm are not the same.
So now you're literallycombining spiritual intelligence
with human intelligence to comeup with a realization within
(06:23):
yourself that things are notquite as they appear to be.
When you are combining spiritualintelligence with human
intelligence, what it means isthat every moment of your life,
if acknowledged and you arerealizing it as such which a
(06:44):
self-realized individual does isa moment of personal
transformation.
Now, that is a profoundunderstanding and awareness and
you develop that, ongoing everyday until it becomes second
nature within yourself.
That every experience you'rehaving you understand and
perceive as a transformativeexperience between the human
(07:07):
intelligence that you havewithin yourself, in the physical
realm and the spiritualintelligence that you have from
the other realms that areimportant for you to recognize
and develop, because you'redealing with so many ongoing
events in this physical worldit's impossible to decipher them
(07:29):
just with the physicalcomponent of yourself, because
we all know that we have aspiritual intelligence that is
working consistently with usalso.
That spiritual intelligence isguiding us, willing us, wanting
us to be in situations that makeus feel good, create a better
sense of well-being.
Going back to the hikingexample I gave earlier, the
(07:54):
reason you may go for a hike isto feel better, to have that
sense of well-being that occurssometimes when you are in nature
and giving yourself theopportunity to breathe and smell
and feel what it is that onlybeing in nature can give to you.
Understanding and acceptingthat we are, in our personal
(08:20):
transformation, consistentlyintegrating, combining,
intertwining and working with aspiritual intelligence and a
human intelligence.
What's the difference betweenthe two?
The spiritual intelligenceworks with and through you
through intangibles.
(08:40):
The human intelligence workswith and through you through
tangibles.
I explain in more detail howto experience the spiritual
intangible experiences andintegrate them with the human
tangible experiences.
In episode number 65, FivePractical Keys to Human and
(09:03):
Spiritual Success Every Day.
The episode explains whathappens when you begin to
integrate the five physicalsenses with the spiritual
intangibles in order for you tohave an intelligent experience
(09:25):
between both dimensions,spiritual and physical.
Your personal transformation.
The key to it is recognizingthat you are at all times, in
the examples I have given,working with both intelligences,
(09:45):
but recognizing that andbecoming aware of it and using
the information that bothintelligences are giving you in
combination is the key to yourpersonal transformation and your
own self-realization.
Understanding that and workingwith it very closely and
(10:09):
becoming aware of it as a realreality in your life as the
example I gave to you earlier inregard to having a conversation
with someone, understandingthat what you're hearing, what
you're feeling may not be thesame thing Combine that
information, acknowledge it andbegin to use it so you don't
(10:32):
waste your time with being tooconcerned about what's only in
front of you physically,perceiving it only with your
human intelligence.
At the same time, don't becomeoverwhelmed by what you might be
feeling spiritually.
It's balance.
Essentially, that is whatpersonal transformation means
(10:58):
that you have been able tobalance successfully your
spiritual intelligence and yourhuman intelligence to give you a
balanced, focused, centeredplace of well-being to make the
correct decisions from in allareas of your life.
If you begin to understand thatas a definition of personal
(11:22):
transformation in your life,what begins to unfold within you
is a deep realization andawareness of something that is
working very intelligently withyou from the inside out, giving
(11:45):
you the information that youneed from the spiritual
intelligence to act upon withyour human intelligence.
When you begin to, as it were,reverse the flow of working from
the human intelligence firstand acknowledging your spiritual
(12:05):
intelligence second which a lotof us do it's an afterthought,
so to speak, that maybe I felt acertain way and didn't act on
it you acted on your humaninformation and intelligence
first instead of prioritizingyour spiritual intelligence.
(12:27):
When you begin to walk and movein the realization of let me
have a personal transformation,of the reversal of energy,
moving forward and letting mylife flow from spiritual
(12:48):
awareness and intelligence andthen moving that energy into my
human existence, my humanintelligence, experiment with
that for a while, work with itfor a while, start feeling
deeply within yourself what itis that you want to, for example
(13:12):
, do with your life as a lifepurpose.
When it comes to relationships,feel deeply within yourself, do
they resonate with you beforeyou act on them, and put your
human emotions and humanintelligence behind them.
(13:33):
Because once you have put yourhuman emotion and intelligence
behind a situation, acircumstance, person, invested
emotionally in different people,time has gone by.
When you take a moment to stopand transform that situation,
(13:55):
that's what personaltransformation is.
It's transforming eachsituation personally that you
find yourself in, by gettingcalm, getting quiet, focusing
internally.
Before acting.
You will find that the resultsthat you get from that
(14:18):
transformation are verydifferent than if you just act
from the human intelligencealone, which I would suggest to
you is 90% of what most peopleare doing, and giving 10% to
their spiritual awareness andintelligence.
If you can reverse that andgive at least 50% to your
(14:43):
spiritual intelligence, I wouldgive a little bit more because I
think your spiritualintelligence is much more
important.
Maybe 60-70% to your spiritualintelligence and 40-30% to your
human action and intelligence.
You now have, as the episode istitled a personal transformation
(15:07):
through combining yourspiritual and human intelligence
.
The percentage that you want touse to combine those two is up
to you.
What I would suggest to you isthis as you begin to run the
experiment on this, thisspiritual intelligence and human
(15:31):
intelligence working in yourlife, and how much you want to
put on one or the other to helpyour personal transformation,
the combination, the balance ofthe scale it is my sincere
suggestion and opinion to you.
We'll lean a little bit moretowards you beginning to
(15:56):
understand that your spiritualintelligence has a lot more
weight than your humanintelligence in making the right
decisions, and the foundationof everything you do will be
governed by the divineintelligence, God, Cosmic
(16:17):
Consciousness, whatever you'dlike to call it in your life.
The governing principle ofpersonal transformation is
acknowledging.
First of all, you have twointelligences, as I mentioned,
spiritual and human, working incombination.
(16:38):
The question that you will askyourself and answer as you go
along in life is which one doyou want to develop more and
which one gives you the bestadvice through intuition,
through a sense of well-being,through a sense of purpose, and
(17:02):
is consistent in the informationit gives you?
When you decide if it's humanor spiritual, you'll decide how
you want that combination towork and what percentage you
give each of those to have themost effect in your life.
And when you do work with acombination and you begin to see
(17:25):
the results that it gives you,you will understand that your
personal transformation occursin every moment of your life,
because your transformation isnot just happening on a daily
basis, on a weekly basis.
It is actually happening momentto moment, with every thought
(17:50):
and action you take based uponthe decisions you choose to make
with the correct combination ofspiritual intelligence and
human intelligence.
Like anything in life, it'sabout balance.
(18:13):
Balance your scales correctlyand your personal transformation
will reflect that.
And when you have balance, youhave equilibrium, and I know
that equilibrium is somethingthat you would want in your life
as much as you can possibly get.
Balance your scales betweenhuman and spiritual intelligence
(18:37):
, have a positive personaltransformation and you will see
that as you go forward in lifeby application of what has been
presented in today's episode,you will have a greater sense of
well-being, peace of mind and,above all, an unexplainable
(19:01):
sense of balance that can onlycome from correctly aligning the
combination of your spiritualintelligence and your human
intelligence together.
I sincerely appreciate youlistening to the podcast.
(19:22):
Please subscribe so you do notmiss any upcoming episodes.
Whatever platform you're on,please leave a rating and review
.
I would greatly appreciate it.
Any additional information onme, Linton Bergsen, and my
five-star reviewed book,Purposeful Vision, is available
at selfrealized.
com which is all one word.
You can also leave any commentsor suggestions on the website.
(19:43):
I look forward to connectingwith you very soon and take good
care of yourself.
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