September 22, 2025 • 46 mins
Q4 is gearing up to be really busy for sellers, which isn’t unusual, and sometimes its the busy-ness of the business that burns us out. That’s why part of our Q4 prep should be reconnecting to our purpose. Why are we doing this business? Is it for flexibility and freedom? To provide for our families? To have greater financial security, pay off a big debt, save or invest, monetize a passion or hobby, learn a new skill, so something positive for the planet? There are all kinds of purposes behind all kinds of eBay stores. We’re talking through this topic thanks to a great article by Dr. Jordan Grumet (aka Doc G from the Earn and Invest Podcast) - linked below!
Doc G’s Article:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-regret-free-life/202508/you-arent-a-product-of-the-5-people-you-spend-time-with
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hey, hey, everybody.
Welcome to episode 96 of theStellar Club Podcast.
Let's drop that beat.
Hey guys, welcome to episode 96.
SPEAKER_02 (00:14):
We're back again.
SPEAKER_00 (00:15):
We're all back.
SPEAKER_02 (00:16):
We're back at it.
SPEAKER_00 (00:18):
Yeah, we are.
We really are.
We're always at it, you know?
So much behind the scenes.
SPEAKER_02 (00:23):
How are we start?
How are we starting today?
Like how how's Ken's week?
Or how Ken, how are you?
How's sourcing?
How's listing?
What are we starting with today?
SPEAKER_03 (00:32):
Well, just to give you a quick update, um, I was um
blessed enough to be picked torepresent again this year's uh
advocacy day.
Uh we call it DC Fly In torepresent small businesses,
particularly the online sellersthat sell on the eBay platform.
So we did talk to our state'srepresentative, uh the
(00:54):
policymakers.
Um there were 13 sellers uh thatthey flew in this year, and so
uh it was you know full day ofmeeting, um meeting with eBay
employees as well at the sametime, and then the executive,
um, you know, our CEO JamieAyanoni went there as well and
uh took some selfies again.
(01:14):
So it was fun and um selfiesthere didn't happen, right?
Yeah, uh I told my wife JC Isaid one day I'm just gonna have
uh you know an album of selfieswith Jamie.
Yeah, yeah, so it was it wasgood.
Um no, it was it was good tokind of like share our story of
small businesses that um kind oflike just to remind them that
(01:38):
there are small businesses inyour state uh specifically.
Um I just realized there is uh1.1 billion GMV that small
businesses is helping Ohio with.
SPEAKER_01 (01:52):
Wow, that's pretty good.
SPEAKER_03 (01:54):
So that is pretty good.
So they can't ignore us.
Right, yeah, so they can'tignore us.
So that was kind of like the thekind of like the angle that we
were uh telling them that thereare this many thousand of eBay
sellers in your district or inyour state, yeah.
Um, and this is all the revenuethat everybody's bringing in.
So that was that was that wascool, and you know, practicing
(02:15):
our um um ability to reach outand uh have access to our
representatives and our senatorsand you know say what's up to
them.
SPEAKER_00 (02:25):
Totally.
SPEAKER_02 (02:25):
Also fight against Veroes, etc.
SPEAKER_00 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, part of it.
I did not go this year, butwe're still I'm still involved
with the that whole team aswell, and it's really awesome
work.
And if that's something you'reinterested in, you're listening
to this, like please check outour show notes, talk to us, DM
us, we'd love to.
SPEAKER_03 (02:45):
We'll put a link, we'll pull a link out there for
the S band.
It's called Small BusinessAmbassadors Network.
If you want to be a part and bea voice of your um what do you
call it, district and state.
Uh make sure you sign up.
Yeah, it's our boy Yinka waspart of it as well.
Oh, as a matter of fact, our boyYinka won the Yinka Fan Club
(03:08):
Podcast.
SPEAKER_00 (03:08):
Yes, gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
Yinka won the advocacy seller award this year.
So um Anna won it last year.
SPEAKER_00 (03:17):
Yes, I was just looking at it on my shelf.
It's the Advocacy LeadershipAward.
SPEAKER_02 (03:22):
Congratulations, Inka.
That's like only only the bestof the best leadership awards.
SPEAKER_03 (03:27):
And I am convinced that if you hold that trophy,
you will somewhat cry.
Yeah.
Because as muscle-looking Incawas, he was able to uh you know
shed at least a tear.
And made everybody in the roomcry.
Oh my goodness.
So that was I'm crying rightnow.
Yeah, me too.
We love that.
(03:47):
So uh well deserving, welldeserving.
This guy's doing um yeah, youknow, a lot of work for us
because um, you know, especiallywith him being really close to
DC, he's especially the Mr.
Last Minute if a representativeor some somebody important wants
to see some sellers.
Uh Yinka's always been availablefor them.
So that's always good.
(04:08):
And he would be that guy that Iwant to represent.
And also a lawyer, so he knowswhat he's talking about.
SPEAKER_00 (04:13):
Yeah, me too.
Just outstanding character, veryarticulate, like a real seller
that has a passion for it.
He's like literally like theperfect poster child for it.
So I'm so happy for you, Yinka.
I know you're listening to thisbecause you listen to every
episode of your fan clubpodcast.
SPEAKER_02 (04:29):
So very happy for him.
I think also representing Texaswas um Profit First Reseller.
He's like a he has a YouTubechannel.
He has glasses, blue eyes.
I don't know his real namethough.
I just thought that's the firstone.
SPEAKER_03 (04:42):
Dan, Dan, Dan.
I meant Dan.
Yeah, yeah.
He said he had YouTube.
SPEAKER_02 (04:45):
He had YouTube connecting all the dots right
now.
SPEAKER_03 (04:49):
Yeah.
Oh, how how did you know of him?
SPEAKER_02 (04:51):
Um, I just saw some couple of his videos.
He kind of talks while he's likesorting things out, prepping
items.
Um that guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's him.
SPEAKER_03 (05:02):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:03):
He seems super uh super chill, very good.
Yeah, very cool.
SPEAKER_03 (05:07):
Um I talked to him, I talked to him a little bit,
and um that's what he said.
Like, I said, Are you onYouTube?
It's like, no, man, I'm onInstagram.
It's like, and he's on YouTube,and he's like, Man, I want to be
on Instagram.
So pretty pretty cool moment.
Pretty cool moment.
Yeah, he actually sat next toInka.
And he sat next to Jamie aswell.
So it was me, Yinka, Dan, andJamie and Crystal on the other
(05:30):
end.
So that's very cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good guy, good guy.
Yeah, you got goodrepresentation for for uh for
Texas.
SPEAKER_02 (05:37):
There we go.
Yeah, he said that he almost hedoes a lot of like uh
electronics and stuff like that.
So he's always like sorting, hegets them in like bulk and yeah,
like clean them up and test.
SPEAKER_03 (05:47):
Vintage video video consoles, stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02 (05:50):
Yeah, controllers, stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00 (05:52):
Mr.
Elbow Grease, yeah, yeah,exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (05:55):
Yeah, we know all that work that goes into that.
For sure.
No joke.
So that's pretty cool.
Yep.
That is cool.
SPEAKER_00 (06:02):
So I've had a busy week not gallivanting around the
Capitol, although I would haveloved to have gallivanted around
the Capitol again.
It's so fun.
But um, I'll just sorry, I'mtotally butting in, but I don't
remember if I've actually saidthis on the podcast yet.
But I officially have beenmoving into eBasement 3.0.
(06:22):
Um, I'm renting a space, whichis the basement of my friend's
small business building.
But guys, the great news is it'sa walkout basement, so there's
no stairs.
SPEAKER_03 (06:32):
Which is so this will be the will be the first
time in a long time that you'renot going through stairs.
SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
Yes, and that I'm not uh completely working from
home because I have to now go0.7 miles from my house.
Wow, 0.7 miles.
Yeah, it's very close.
But um still great.
SPEAKER_03 (06:53):
That would be a great walk.
1.4 miles a day at least.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:57):
I walk I walk around my neighborhood all the time.
So unless I have to carry stuff,a lot of stuff, I will probably
imagine carrying all this stuff.
I know, like here's a giant binof like whatever.
I'll have to get a wagon orsomething.
SPEAKER_03 (07:09):
Oh a wagon would be great.
SPEAKER_00 (07:10):
That wouldn't be dorky at all.
SPEAKER_03 (07:12):
No, no, no.
That would be so anna.
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
It's been, you know, moving stuff again, but not
nearly on the scale of movinglike my whole house.
So it doesn't really count asmoving, in my opinion.
But anyway, it's been a lot ofwork cleaning it up and getting
it organized, but it's beengreat.
It's like at least 10 times thespace that I have now.
Really affordable, higherceilings, too.
Higher ceilings, so muchpotential.
(07:35):
Also, things that storage unitsgenerally don't have, like Wi-Fi
and bathrooms and like lots ofreally good overhead lighting.
So I actually could run my wholestore from out there, but for
now I'm keeping my shippingstation at home.
I'll probably process inventoryat home for a while still until
I kind of get a good setup inboth places.
But so far, so good.
(07:55):
I'm absolutely loving it.
And I have so much room to grow,which was the whole point of
doing it because I'm ready tokeep growing my business again.
Like my my um like revenue hasgrown a lot this year in my
store, but my inventory isactually the smallest it's been
in a long time.
So I want to bulk that back upand hopefully also obviously the
(08:16):
revenue with it.
But I needed more space to dothat.
So here we are, and I'm that's ahuge prep for Q4 that I'm well.
SPEAKER_03 (08:24):
I mean, I was gonna say congratulations for making
some headway and some changesand some improvements to the
operation.
Right.
And as part of our series,talking about Q4 prep,
definitely you've done somethingthat would allow you to acquire
more inventory and process moreinventory.
Oh, yeah.
And um, our next prep for Q4,we've talked about you know
(08:48):
getting connected with yourcommunity, making sure that um
you are in the loop with all theupdates and you know, also just
build your support system aroundyou through the community.
Uh, last week we talked aboutall the different tactical
things that we could dodifferently.
A lot of it was just setting upgood foundation and you know,
little tweaks that we havelearned from last year, and also
(09:11):
part of that we talked aboutsourcing and how eBay seller
capital could help you acquiremore inventory on Q4.
In this episode, Anna, why don'tyou tell him what we're talking?
Where are we trying to upgradeor are we doing for prep as far
as Q4 would be concerned?
SPEAKER_00 (09:27):
Absolutely.
So Q4 is gearing up to be areally busy time for sellers.
Normally it's pretty busy,wouldn't you agree?
I don't know anybody who hasdoesn't have a busy Q4 really,
but so that part's not unusual,but I think it's the busyness of
running a business that reallyburns us out.
And so, in that, that was kindof my thought process of wanting
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to do a mindset episode where wereally talk about something that
will help us keep from burningout.
And that thing is reconnectingto our purpose.
So, like, why are we doing thisbusiness in the first place?
Like, there are all kinds ofpurposes um behind all kinds of
different eBay stores or youknow, e-commerce businesses.
So, just to name like a few, itcould be flexibility or freedom,
(10:14):
time freedom, right?
It could be to provide for yourfamily, um, having greater
financial security or paying offyour student loans, like Glenn
did, or saving or investing,monetizing a passion or a hobby
that you love, learning a newskill, like trying to keep stuff
out of the landfill, doingsomething positive for the
planet.
Like there's literally so manypurposes.
(10:34):
I rattled those off.
And there's that's like a tinyfraction of the really driving
purposes that people have fortheir stores for running their
stores, right?
And devoting all the time andeffort it takes to do that.
So this was all coming to mymind a couple months ago because
I read this article, and I'mgonna link to the article in the
(10:55):
show notes, but it was writtenby a personal finance podcaster
that I follow, and this topicreally immediately reminded me
of all of our journeys.
And I thought, oh my gosh,Cellar Club needs to discuss
this because I think it totallyspeaks to all of us.
But um we're not gonna like readthe article word for word on
here, but in case you want toread it, and of course you can
(11:15):
find it in the show notes.
But the the podcaster I'mtalking about, his he goes by
the name Doc G, Dr.
Jordan Grummet, and his articleis called Are You Really the
Average of the Five People YouSpend the Most Time With?
And he just published this inAugust.
So, like I said, it was, youknow, a little over a month ago,
a month and a half, maybe that Iread the article and thought, oh
my gosh, we've got to talk aboutthis.
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And so as I kind of was, youknow, had that on the back
burner in my mind when we'retalking about Q4 prep, I thought
this is a great opportunity forthat.
So I'm gonna like walk you guysthrough some of the ideas that
Doc G writes about in thisarticle.
And I just want us to discuss itbecause I'm so curious about I
don't know, just your insightsand how this applies to you.
Um you know, going back to thewhole foundation of this
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podcast, uh, something that Ilove for us to do is kind of
exchange our wisdom and ourexperience from our very
different perspectives with ourdifferent stores and our
different journeys.
So this is another great kind ofway to do that.
So let's just let's just startwith kind of the premise of that
he's that he states in thetitle.
So have you heard of that ideabefore that you're the average
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of the five people you spend themost time with?
SPEAKER_04 (12:24):
Yeah, yep.
SPEAKER_00 (12:26):
So like I think that became popular.
He talks about this in thearticle, but I think that became
popular in like the 80s and 90s.
And um a lot has changed sincethe 80s and 90s about proximity.
And you know, the idea here isthat the your proximity to other
people shapes your character,but it also shapes your success,
right?
Like applied to kind of businessand personal growth, it's all
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about like your success, right?
If you're surrounding yourselfwith not successful people,
you're very unlikely to becomesuccessful, and like also the
opposite is true.
So, what do you think aboutthat?
Like, he kind of makes the casein this article, Doc G, that in
terms of physical proximity,we're more disconnected than
ever, you know, like we are onsocial media, we're not we're in
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really disparate places, andwe're we're a perfect example of
that right now because we'rerecording this from Ohio,
Illinois, and Texas, and here weare spending spending time with
each other, but we're really notin proximity in the traditional
sense.
So, what do you think aboutthat?
How do you think that has likeimpacted your sense of community
or that you know the pe quoteunquote the people you spend the
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most time with?
Just how different that is fromlike the 90s.
SPEAKER_02 (13:41):
Yeah, well, I think that's what's kind of like what
what you guys have just saidtoo.
It's that's what's kind of likesuffering right now is just that
in-person feel in touch.
Like people don't really knowhow to communicate with others
or get I don't know, like that.
It's just like a weird feeling,like they're they're just so
lost and they feel like I guessmore nervous, anxious to even
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have like a conversation.
I know one of the examples islike back in like 2000s or like
late 90s, they used to have likevideo game tournaments and stuff
like that, right?
So you're playing somebody inMortal Kombat or Madden or
something, and so when you lose,you're literally l looking at
the other person that just wonand you're gonna take your L
(14:25):
like you would.
SPEAKER_03 (14:26):
Yeah, and so some there's some trash stalking uh
in close proximity.
SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
Exactly.
And so, even back in the 90s, ifyou want to go to like arcades
and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00 (14:36):
Yeah, that's so true.
SPEAKER_02 (14:38):
And so I remember my brother was telling me that they
had, I don't know, something inAustin, when he used to live in
Austin, this wasn't even toolong ago.
They had like a Tekkentournament or they had
something, and just so manypeople just did not want to do
it because they thought it wasgonna be like weird playing
somebody in a separate room witha headset on.
(14:59):
Not not being right next tothem, you know, like arm length,
you know.
I just found that very weird.
SPEAKER_00 (15:07):
Can't smack 'em.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02 (15:12):
So wait, what's missing that now to where you
can't even talk to anybodybecause you're you know, you're
not gonna do everything right.
If you lose, you lose.
I mean, it is what it is, but Ithink people have this fear now
of just talking to somebody,period, you know, maybe just
having a conversation or open arelationship, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:32):
Well, and as much as there are, you know, people
putting themselves out there onsocial media being quote unquote
authentic, it's like there'sstill like an extremely
performative nature to whatthey're doing.
Like even when they're likeintentionally not being
performative, the fact that it'sone of the things that's they
intentionally did it.
(15:53):
Yeah, right.
And the fact that it's theychoose what to show, and you
know, it's like one side, likeyou're observing them and you're
internally comparing yourself tothem or whatever.
It's not like the same as we'reall like in person in the same
space, like engaging in the samething or having a back and forth
in real time that's like allfive senses.
I don't know, it is it is waydifferent, right?
(16:15):
And I mean, there's reallyinteresting research on that.
Doc G even talks about some ofthat how this the influencer
culture kind of has led to justpeople feeling more isolated and
more anxious, and it's exactlyin line with what you're saying,
yeah.
And like it's convenient in away, it's like miraculous almost
that we can have all this accessor influence of each other from
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so many different places at anyany point in time, but it's like
not it's not like holistic likeit would be if it was in person,
right?
SPEAKER_03 (16:46):
Yeah, I I think one of the things is it complete.
Yeah, one other thing I couldadd is for me and how I look at
you know, like the technology,the internet, um I've always um
viewed it as an addition, not asa replacement.
So, you know, like I would stillprefer a close proximity,
(17:11):
contact, and conversation withyou know people, and then I can
video call you.
SPEAKER_00 (17:19):
Right, it's like the follow-up or something like
that.
Right, like the supplement.
SPEAKER_03 (17:24):
Yes, yes.
That's kind of like how I I viewit.
Kind of like, you know, like youknow, like my parents are still
in the Philippines, soobviously, realistically, it's
hard to meet weekly, you know,in person, but we do meet
yearly, and the supplement of itis you know, we we're on video
calls, you know, weekly.
SPEAKER_00 (17:42):
So that's why you had to track down Glenn in real
life after as you learned fromhim on YouTube.
SPEAKER_03 (17:49):
No, a hundred percent.
I I'm not kidding.
No, I I I think that that's Iguess before even explaining
what I did, that's whatliterally what I just explained,
right?
Like I've watched this guy onYouTube for so long, I've
interacted on through chat.
Yeah, I've even had a video callwith him.
But it went far.
(18:09):
Yeah, and I was just like, no,let me see if this guy's real,
you know?
SPEAKER_00 (18:13):
Exactly.
I mean, that's it.
You're like not actually aweirdo who's just an insatiable
friend.
You're like, but who are youreally?
SPEAKER_03 (18:20):
Yeah, I I thought he was I thought it was AI before
AI.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:25):
I remember um, I mean, like in my kind of like
psychology professoringpsychotherapy days, I remember
having a lot of conversationswith people about experiential
knowledge, right?
Like this would happen oftenthat people would come to like
their first or second therapysession and they would tell me a
lot about themselves, obviously,right?
(18:46):
Like in an hour or two hours.
But like I couldn't possiblyknow their entire life in an
hour or two hours.
And this is like not just me,not just me as a therapist, but
like in therapy in general, thishappens all the time where
people come in, they tell youstuff about themselves because
they're trying to like lay out,you know, the the problem or
whatever they're working on orwhatever they're struggling
with.
And they leave that first orsecond hour and and they say
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things like, I feel like youknow me better than anyone else
in my life, and I've only metyou for two hours.
And um, as a therapist, I feellike there's a flip side to that
where I feel like, okay, after acouple of hours, no, of course I
don't know everything about you.
Like, you know, I only andyou're my only source of
information.
Like I know whatever you'redeciding to tell me.
(19:31):
But at the same time, like youget a really good sense of that
person and you continue to learnabout them over time.
Like there's so much, people areso such deep wells of
information.
But I could, you know, adapt tothat person or kind of
understand them going forwardbecause I had this experiential
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knowledge.
And same thing of like why theywould trust me and tell me more
the next week and the next weekis because they had experiential
knowledge of me and they knewalmost nothing about me.
Like I'm not sitting theretelling them all about my life,
but they have experienced me asa person in real life in that,
you know, in that setting.
They've experienced me inperson, so they know who I am,
(20:13):
like by experience, even if theydon't have all the information,
they have like this experience.
So that is so powerful, and Ifeel like that is missing a lot
from these kind of like virtualinteractions.
And that's why, like, you know,like I totally agree with what
you're saying, Ken.
Like the other the virtual stuffis a great supplement to to the
(20:34):
the the home base stuff ofexperience, experiential
knowledge that can really onlyhappen like in some kind of
in-person capacity.
But anyway, this is all like Ilove this kind of stuff, like I
love these kind of topics.
But so Doc G takes this idea,right?
This proximity thing, the fivepeople that you spend the most
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time with, and he kind of flipsit on his head and he kind of
says, I wanna I wanna alter thisidea from that to say instead
that today, right, in 2025, likewe're not the product of the
five people around us.
We're the product of the five orhowever many activities we build
purpose around because ouridentities form around what
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lights us up, the things wepursue, not because others do
them, but because they actuallymatter to us.
So, and that's kind of aparaphrase.
Um, but how do how do you thinkthat applies to us like as
business people?
Because we all found our way tothis from other things, right?
Other endeavors, other jobs.
And of course, like I alwaysjoke about how much I love
(21:40):
shipping, but you know, shippingstuff from my basement in and of
itself is like not my purpose inlife.
It's not that is not my highestcalling, but it's more like what
doing this business representsand allows me to have in my
life.
That's what's really connectedto my purpose.
So, how does that work for youguys?
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It's a thinker.
SPEAKER_02 (22:02):
Yeah, I haven't really had to think about this.
And I don't know if you haveanything right off the bat, but
it's kind of like I well, meanme and the wife always talk
about this too, and not to bemean to any of my friends right
now, but I'm always kind ofthinking like you know, I I've
gotten back and forth with it along time.
Like, what if I did live inOhio?
Like, what if I did live inIndiana and have in between kind
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of like Sneakers Envy and Kenand been able to just have more
of that relatability?
I do feel like it does getlonely at times too, because
like I do have high schoolfriends that I still talk to,
even though it's been so long,you know.
Yeah, and and I think that'sfine.
But in besides kind of likegrowing up together where we're
(22:44):
at right now, we're just likevery, very different, you know.
I'm just yeah trying to do a lotof things on my own when it
comes to like business or socialmedia or something.
And for the most part, a lot ofthem have a lot of full-time
jobs, and there's nothing wrongwith that, but it's just that
they they're not really gonnaunderstand or even ask, really,
(23:05):
like right what I'm goingthrough, or how do I kind of
like get out of certainsituations um to provide for my
family by selling online.
Yeah.
Like it's it's not we know it'snot easy, but it's totally
different than clocking in,which I've done.
SPEAKER_00 (23:21):
You know, I've done both, but but like you you're
basically relating to themmostly based on your history,
not your present or your future.
You know, so it's like it'sdifferent, it's valuable, like
that's beautiful.
Old friends are amazing to have,but that doesn't mean they can
like you can relate to them thesame way throughout your whole
life, you know.
And yeah, it it makes sense.
(23:43):
Like the people that you'requote unquote around are not in
physical proximity to you, butyou make a point to spend time
with them in ways that you canbecause you are running this
race together, you know, likeand you have to find a way to do
that, even if it is like maybenot as ideal as it would be if
they were in person.
Why don't you make them all moveto El Paso?
(24:04):
I mean, come on.
Why do you have to move?
SPEAKER_03 (24:07):
He's gonna have to move.
SPEAKER_00 (24:10):
I I think I I think like absolutely not.
SPEAKER_02 (24:16):
Yeah, I know, right?
SPEAKER_03 (24:17):
Yeah, so so that I think those are a few moves.
Uh no, I I that's always been onmy mind.
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
Um getting land to move to Ohio.
SPEAKER_03 (24:26):
That is one.
Um, but also like gotta leave,let's just buy a 20-acre
property and let's live in eachcorner of that 20-acre property.
I know, Ken.
SPEAKER_00 (24:36):
You're very charismatic.
I would be really worried aboutit turning into a cult.
No offense.
SPEAKER_03 (24:42):
I love like any new friend is like, come on over.
SPEAKER_00 (24:45):
Yeah, you live here now.
SPEAKER_03 (24:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (24:47):
Um by the way, don't talk to your family anymore.
SPEAKER_03 (24:50):
I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_00 (24:51):
I'm just kidding.
You're not a cult leader.
SPEAKER_03 (24:52):
No, no, no, no, no.
Um, I'm a I'm a thought leader.
You know, not a cult leader.
Yeah, I think I think um, youknow, there is definitely um I
think that's that's the I guessthe line that you will have to
cross one day that that would bea turning point of somebody's
kind of like the the midlife uhkind of change, you know.
(25:16):
Um I was like listening to abook that um who's this guy?
Berkshire Hathaway.
Warren Buffett.
Uh-huh.
Right, right.
SPEAKER_00 (25:26):
The best investor of all time.
SPEAKER_03 (25:27):
Right, right.
Still lives in Omaha, Nebraska.
Right, and and the cre one ofthe craziest things is he has
his shareholders meeting there.
SPEAKER_00 (25:36):
Yeah, he does.
SPEAKER_03 (25:38):
You know, I know, yeah, like you're coming to me,
you know, and I'm just like, andand that says a lot about about
you know, like we're talkingabout proximity.
It's like, yeah, if you reallywant to learn in how I operate,
like you come to me because thisis my house, my town.
SPEAKER_00 (25:53):
Well, for sure.
So I mean that that's anotherpart of this too.
It's like with all of thepotential influence that's out
there, quote unquote, right?
Like, you could be followingsomeone, but if you never did
anything about it, it's notgonna make you more successful.
Like you don't get successful byosmosis, and that's why Glenn
loves to tell everyone to what?
SPEAKER_03 (26:13):
To go out and get it and get it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:16):
That's right.
Not like tune in next week formore information, but go out and
get it, right?
Like no, no, no, get up and getit.
Oh, I like that thing.
SPEAKER_03 (26:24):
I like that.
I like that.
And um, yeah, no, I think uh Ithink it's a still big
possibility that it couldhappen.
So we might have to just makeAnna move.
I mean, at this point, Anna'sreally a per up at moving Glenn.
So really good at moving.
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
I will I will 100% fight El Paso and help you pack.
I would do that in a heartbeat.
SPEAKER_02 (26:40):
Uh Jim promise Henry already said he would he'd start
packing, he wouldn't even breakin and start packing.
SPEAKER_03 (26:48):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean one day you'll justwake up, there's like a pod
container outside of yourstorage.
SPEAKER_00 (26:59):
We're friends now.
We're friends, we're a bit, Imean, we were we can't.
Oh, they've had they've haddonuts together.
They've had donuts together inthis official.
See, and this is exactly whatwe're talking about.
We met in person finally inVegas for eBay Open, and now
we're b besties.
SPEAKER_01 (27:12):
Yeah, love them.
SPEAKER_00 (27:14):
Yeah.
So I'm like, oh my gosh, you'reeverything I heard about, and
you know, acquaintance-wise,interacted with you and have
great interactions, but like,yeah, they're amazing.
So I get it.
I get why you want to move rightin between them, Glenn.
SPEAKER_03 (27:27):
So uh, so uh yeah, I I think um that is a great
concept, and I feel like totruly, truly do something great
and memor uh memorable andlegendary, um, there will be I
mean my move here, come on, mymove here from the Philippines,
(27:48):
I think, is already legendary inmy story, but I can't wait for
more uh oh yeah because all ofthis wouldn't have happened.
You know?
Yeah none of I mean even thispodcast wouldn't have happened
if if a move so so would you saya physical move is one
(28:08):
requirement in a someone's storyto make it legendary?
SPEAKER_00 (28:13):
I mean, I don't think it necessarily has to be
like moving the location whereyou live, but I think the
fundamental idea of making amaking decisive physical action
moves in your life definitelyis.
You can't just think about itforever or you know, ponder it
or plan it.
You have to do stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (28:31):
So when we have to do stuff.
So when we have our giantwarehouse, we just have to make
sure there's apartments withinthe warehouse or next door to
it.
Right.
That way we could just, youknow, there's most successful
people have multiple houses andmultiple places to live.
Right.
Right?
Okay, that makes sense.
Okay.
You're like soul, okay, got it.
(28:52):
We'll get that together.
We'll add we'll add that to thebusiness plan.
SPEAKER_00 (28:55):
Okay, so another thing I haven't told you guys
about Doc G himself is that heis actually he's a doctor, he's
a medical doctor, but he's ahospice doctor.
So he's heard a lot of reallysobering and wise things from
people at the end of their life.
And I think this is why I love,you know, his his perspective on
(29:15):
things like this that are alittle more existential, because
he's like been, you know,literally with people on their
deathbed like so many times, andhe's gotten to hear all of that
wisdom in in a difficultsetting, but he like it's not
lost on him, right?
Like he obviously thinks deeplyabout some of these things.
Um but I want to ask you guys,I'm just gonna throw these out
there.
So I want you to listen to thesequestions and just see if any of
(29:38):
them kind of resonates with you,especially.
Got it.
Um, or not.
But he says if you're trying tofigure out like what are the
anchors for your purpose, likeyou're just going, Oh, I don't
know.
Like I just I need to work a jobbecause I need money.
I don't really know where thepurpose fits in or whatever it
is.
I mean, this is like, you know,these are big life things to
consider.
(29:59):
So um Instead of searching forlike five amazing people to
surround yourself with, he'ssaying we should be searching
for anchors for our purpose.
So here are some questions toask yourself if you're looking
for those anchors, okay?
So what is it that stirs yourspirit?
What keeps you up at night?
What makes you lose track oftime?
(30:21):
Um, if you were lying on yourdeathbed far too early, what
would you regret never havingthe courage, energy, or time to
pursue?
What brought you joy as a childbefore grades, careers, and
expectations clouded thepicture?
What aspects of the work you'recurrently doing do you dislike,
(30:42):
and what's left over when youstrip those parts away?
And finally, what am I curiousenough to try, even if it scares
me a little?
Any of the These are a lot.
I know.
I mean, I feel like all of themreally are like powerful, but I
just wonder if any off the topof your head like that.
SPEAKER_03 (31:02):
Mine would be not just scare me a little, scare me
a lot.
SPEAKER_00 (31:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
I think that's anything s anything that your
thoughts think is scary, Ialways ask myself, is it deadly?
SPEAKER_00 (31:19):
Yeah.
Usually not.
SPEAKER_03 (31:20):
Because it's yeah, like we live in the 21st
century, like it's not not hhardly anything's deadly unless
you're being recklessphysically.
Um and I think everything'sworth a shot.
And also I think a lot of peoplethink about that you only have
one chance or one try at it.
(31:43):
Um so uh there's this conceptabout um just uh keep kissing
the frog or keep kissing frogs.
Yeah, yeah, keep keep kissingthe kids.
Keep kissing frogs, yeah, right?
(32:04):
Because eventually you'll findyour prince.
That's okay.
So um, so you'll have multiplechances.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:10):
Um that's so true.
Even if you do something scaryand it fails, that's not the
end.
That's not the end, it's onetry.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:17):
So so I I think everybody has to think that you
have a lot of uh chances.
Um as you know, I mean, again,you know, if you're listening to
Shadow Club podcasts, you're notsomebody that's reckless or
yeah, you're trying to grow.
So if any if anything thatyou're trying, it's just
something a different way ofdoing it that you've never done
before.
(32:37):
Totally.
I think that's always one thatkind of jumped out of me.
And and the rest is like I justlive through it daily, like I
can't sleep.
SPEAKER_00 (32:50):
No, but I I think like a lot of these that are
more like question your wholelife type of questions.
I mean, these are importantquestions to ask.
I'm comfortable with thosequestions, probably because I
have therapy background, but itis like, yes, I I've examined a
lot of those things in my life,and that is exactly why I'm
doing this business and notsomething else, as like the
(33:12):
center of my work.
So for me, as far as it appliesto my business, like I know what
my purposes are, and doing thisbusiness allows me to have more
time and energy for those, youknow.
The business itself, though, isa passion of mine at this point.
It didn't really start out thatway, but it is now.
And especially because I'm somuch more connected to
community, that's you know, likerelated to running my eBay
(33:36):
store.
So I think for me, the questionthat that is the most important
when I actually am thinking ofthis through the lens of my
business is the last one.
What am I curious enough to try,even if it scares me?
A little or a lot, right?
Because it's really easy to juststagnate or burn out, or just
work too hard at something thatisn't the full potential and
(33:57):
burn out.
So in order to avoid that, Ithink that's a question I need
to keep asking myself.
Like, what is the purpose withinmy business?
And how is my like curiosity andmy willingness to kind of risk
things like leading me closer tothat?
So I really like that one forthe business side.
(34:17):
Glenn, have you had time toponder all of these?
SPEAKER_02 (34:19):
I did, and this is uh there's a lot.
Um I think that's the scariestpart of the business side is
that you don't know what you'redoing is right because you have
to keep on going until I mean, Iguess till finally you say this
is not working, but some peoplejump it too early and some
(34:41):
people are too late to make thatpivot or make that change, and
so yeah, that's really likedifficult too, because you have
to know when to do it and youdon't.
SPEAKER_00 (34:52):
So yeah, it would be really nice to know with
certainty, but yeah, you whetheryou know or not, you have to
decide, right?
SPEAKER_02 (35:01):
Yeah, to make the choice.
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna stopthis or I'm going to keep going.
SPEAKER_00 (35:06):
Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_02 (35:08):
And I feel like through all these years going
through YouTube and differentplatforms, I've like like Kennet
said, I've made different pivotsat the right time, which I try
to for the most part.
I'm I'm not gonna be right ahundred percent.
Um and there's things that Istill wanna do that I haven't
done also because of like maybemy system that I'm doing right
(35:32):
now isn't the best.
Like maybe I could really doless while getting more done.
You know, so I'm always tryingto figure that out.
Like what else can I do toeliminate maybe some some time
wasters, and it's not evenanything of like going on social
media or anything, it's justlike simple routines, or maybe
(35:52):
getting up a little bit earlier,or maybe I don't know what that
is.
So I'm trying to always figurethat out, you know.
Right.
And even looking at, you know,like YouTube, me and me and Ken
doing like live shows that wehad done for man, like three
plus years.
It was uh people still ask now.
(36:14):
I got like a DM the other day,like when are you doing live
shows again and everything?
And I'm like, I don't know ifand when we're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01 (36:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (36:22):
Um, of course I would love to do that, but
there's only so much that Icould do from everything else
that is already going on, andthen plus adding, you know,
family and you know, a seconddaughter coming soon, so that's
gonna be another life-changingmoment.
Yeah, and so I think the thingthat I'm I mean, going through
(36:43):
your questions, like, is thereanything that's keeping me awake
at night?
No, I do sleep pretty good.
Good.
Um, which I'm I'm probablytired.
I mean, yeah, tired, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:52):
But you know, at peace.
SPEAKER_02 (36:54):
Yeah, but one thing that I feel like I'm lacking or
that would like to do more,which is like helping people.
I felt like the channel at thetime was really doing what it
intended to do, which was likehelping people pay off their
student loans or find a way toresell on eBay, um a different
way of looking.
(37:14):
Because I was doing like garagesales and thrifting and things
like that when I first started,and it's very relatable.
You know, of course, um how manynow how many people do that now
compared to when we firststarted like the channel and
stuff?
It's totally different.
But I feel like with me beingable to like pay off my mortgage
and being debt-free and thingslike that, like because of eBay,
(37:38):
I'm not really getting thatstory out on how I could help
people, especially in a timeright now where the number one
Google search is help withmortgage.
Wow.
That's literally the top searchright now.
SPEAKER_00 (37:51):
Oh my gosh, that's wild.
SPEAKER_02 (37:53):
Yeah, and I feel like I've I have a lot of like
info and also experience to helppeople and to also bring it in a
different way that I don't thinkYouTubers have done by showing,
like, hey, you can pay off yourmortgage and extra bills by
selling on eBay.
Yeah.
This is how you can do it.
(38:13):
And that's something that I'vebeen kind of like working on
behind the scenes that I wouldlike to bring back to the
channel.
So that's one thing that I thinkis just kind of like a like a
goal of mine.
SPEAKER_00 (38:25):
For sure.
Well, and I mean, there'sthere's so much purpose all over
that, right?
Like for you, it's like doingsomething that gives back for
anybody consuming that content,like that's just starting over
the cycle of like what's theirpurpose for doing their
business.
It probably is like peace ofmind.
I want to sleep better at night,I want financial security, I
want to pay off my debts, youknow.
(38:45):
Like, yeah, that's I mean, ahuge concern for people that I
think gets really in the way.
I mean, sometimes sort ofnecessarily gets in the way of
whatever else they're reallylike on earth to do, right?
Like we get preoccupied withthese things that stress us out
and that we are bound to uhfulfill these obligations and
(39:06):
pay these bills and all thisstuff.
And it's like how much energyand time is worrying about that
or struggling to do that, takingaway from like as a human being,
like what are you on this earthfor?
You know, so like I feel likethere's so many aspects of
purpose that kind of apply tothis.
Um, but I love that, Glenn.
Anything we can do to help youput that out there, like we
(39:27):
should.
Um, I think too, I really likeso back going back to this
article.
Doc G doesn't totally throw outthe five influential people in
your life with the bathwater.
He just kind of rearranges thiswhole thing.
And I do want to read one quoteum directly from the article,
and he says, Whatever it is,talking about your purpose,
whatever it is, build a lifearound it, commit to it.
(39:49):
And in doing so, you'll startshowing up as your most
authentic, energized, andintentional self.
And from that space, you'llnaturally find others on similar
journeys, people who share yourpurpose, your values, and your
passions.
They will become your fivepeople, your collaborators,
friends, mentors, and students.
Not because you chased them, butbecause you built something real
(40:11):
that brought them into yourlife.
And that, honestly, when I wasreading this article, like I
wasn't just arbitrarily likedoing some random homework on
the internet to find a topic forseller club.
I was just reading this articlebecause I was interested in it.
But when I read that, I thought,that is us.
Yeah.
That is how we are in eachother's lives.
(40:32):
And I know that's true for somany people in our community,
across the reselling community.
Um, but that idea that when youput your purpose first and you
like anchor everything with yourpurpose, those five influential
people who are gonna make yousuccessful are gonna be drawn
into your life that way.
Yeah, that's the reason they'regonna show up.
(40:53):
So I think that's such a coolidea.
Um, Doc G, I think, hit the nailon the head with it.
But yeah, like what do you guysthink about that?
I feel like that's a hundredpercent the story of your
friendship.
But ours too.
Like, I think all of us indifferent ways.
SPEAKER_03 (41:08):
And it it's kind of just like, you know, we joke
around that can force Glenn andAnna to be friends because I saw
it's a hard sell.
Right.
I saw it that you know how howwe've elevated each other's
lives is how we've elevated eachother's lives as well in a
different way, and together wecould show a lot of the people
(41:31):
that are somewhat interested indoing the same way that it is
possible, and it's not becauseof just proximity, although
proximity is important, um, andnumber two is not because of we
have the same business model,totally not even close, and or
you know, we have we went to thesame school, we have a history
(41:55):
together, you know, like wedidn't we don't have a history,
um, but I think what connectedus is how we're trying to see
the future and and how we'retrying to make impact in
people's lives.
Definitely, and you know, to addto to Glenn's point, like you
know, like trying to find a wayto help more people.
Um, I mean, I think that's oneof the reasons why we've we're
(42:15):
doing this.
And you know, just recentlywe've had a conversation of like
how can we make this bigger?
You know, how can we make thisglobal?
How can we partner with people?
Because, you know, one thingthat I found out that you know
uh uh young Hustleby would neveradmit that um it takes more than
himself, just him, just him, youknow, and so now I'm more about
(42:38):
like oh I I need more people,the more, the merrier, the
better it is, and the further wecan go and the bigger the impact
we can do.
And and I think to add on to ittoo, um, you know, as far as
like looking, finding forpurpose, and I think this has
been the question that I've beenasking myself, and I've kind of
just like um it kind of isgiving is giving me peace that
(43:01):
if everything is financiallytaken care of, what brings you
fulfillment?
Right.
And and and you know, kind oflike the I think one of the
famous questions is like, ifmoney wasn't an issue, what
would you be doing?
Would you still be doing whatyou're doing right now if money
wasn't an issue?
Right.
And I I've answered that thingover and over again.
(43:23):
I've always said yes, I'll stillbe doing this, but I think I
have to correct myself that ifmoney wasn't an issue, I'd be
doing bigger things than this.
Yeah, I would just uhexponentially grow it bigger and
more, I guess, louder if I canbe more louder.
SPEAKER_00 (43:43):
You're like, if that's even possible.
Um, I think it is possible,first of all.
But yeah, I I love that.
And I think you know, if that'sa great question again to drive
down, to drill down to whatmatters to you the most, or like
maybe what you're what you'rehere for, right?
Like what your purpose is, whatyour task, your assignment is,
(44:05):
whatever, however you want tosee it.
But um, but then you also haveto take that answer and bring it
back to the reality that youlive in where money is an object
for most people, right?
Yeah.
So, and therefore, how can youproceed knowing what matters the
most to you and continuing to dothe things that you kind of
functionally have to do?
Like it doesn't have to be oneor the other, but it can really
(44:27):
change your mindset, it canreally change your approach to
things, it can change your goalsand your priorities.
Like it will totally reshapeyour life to actually honest to
goodness evaluate that.
So I would just encourageeverybody to, you know, think
through some of those questionsif they're not too scary.
I know they're like really bigquestions.
(44:48):
Um, also, you know, go read DocG's article.
We're linking to it in the shownotes.
Um, because there's a lot morenuance too that we didn't even
have time to talk about.
But I think we did a pretty goodjob of hitting the main points
of of his message in thearticle.
And really, again, like I itjust reminded me of us, you
know.
I thought, like, wow, this islike the stuff that matters.
(45:10):
And um, of course, we lovetalking shop, we love talking
about the the kind of nuts andbolts and the platform updates
and the strategy and theefficiencies and whatever of our
businesses.
All that is really great, butlike for why, you know, for
what?
Yeah, and I think that is a is aum a fair question, right?
(45:32):
It's a necessary question.
SPEAKER_03 (45:33):
For sure, you know.
Um, anything else you want toadd on to that, Glenn?
SPEAKER_02 (45:38):
Uh no, I think it was very, very interesting and
very thoughtful that you and alot of things you have to go
through personally afterlistening to it.
So Yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (45:46):
A lot of questions.
SPEAKER_00 (45:47):
You're welcome.
Ask yourself.
SPEAKER_03 (45:49):
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I mean, as part of Q4Prep, I think um Q4 is not just
an ending to the business thatwe have crafted and we have
built this year, but it is alsothe beginning of how we could
start a better year next year.
That's right.
So it's the setup, it's thesetup for the get up.
SPEAKER_00 (46:13):
I'll take it.
SPEAKER_03 (46:14):
Yeah, right, right.
I guess so.
I guess so.
I guess so.
So, guys, thank you again for uhlistening to this podcast.
We will see you in the nextepisode.
Again, huge shout-out to eBay.
Make sure you follow eBay firstsellers on Instagram to keep up
to date with everything thateBay is doing.
And we will see you in the nextone.
Peace.
See ya.
SPEAKER_00 (46:34):
Bye.
Hey, hey, everybody.
Welcome to episode 96 of theStellar Club Podcast.
Let's drop that beat.
Hey guys, welcome to episode 96.
SPEAKER_02 (00:14):
We're back again.
SPEAKER_00 (00:15):
We're all back.
SPEAKER_02 (00:16):
We're back at it.
SPEAKER_00 (00:18):
Yeah, we are.
We really are.
We're always at it, you know?
So much behind the scenes.
SPEAKER_02 (00:23):
How are we start?
How are we starting today?
Like how how's Ken's week?
Or how Ken, how are you?
How's sourcing?
How's listing?
What are we starting with today?
SPEAKER_03 (00:32):
Well, just to give you a quick update, um, I was um
blessed enough to be picked torepresent again this year's uh
advocacy day.
Uh we call it DC Fly In torepresent small businesses,
particularly the online sellersthat sell on the eBay platform.
So we did talk to our state'srepresentative, uh the
(00:54):
policymakers.
Um there were 13 sellers uh thatthey flew in this year, and so
uh it was you know full day ofmeeting, um meeting with eBay
employees as well at the sametime, and then the executive,
um, you know, our CEO JamieAyanoni went there as well and
uh took some selfies again.
(01:14):
So it was fun and um selfiesthere didn't happen, right?
Yeah, uh I told my wife JC Isaid one day I'm just gonna have
uh you know an album of selfieswith Jamie.
Yeah, yeah, so it was it wasgood.
Um no, it was it was good tokind of like share our story of
small businesses that um kind oflike just to remind them that
(01:38):
there are small businesses inyour state uh specifically.
Um I just realized there is uh1.1 billion GMV that small
businesses is helping Ohio with.
SPEAKER_01 (01:52):
Wow, that's pretty good.
SPEAKER_03 (01:54):
So that is pretty good.
So they can't ignore us.
Right, yeah, so they can'tignore us.
So that was kind of like the thekind of like the angle that we
were uh telling them that thereare this many thousand of eBay
sellers in your district or inyour state, yeah.
Um, and this is all the revenuethat everybody's bringing in.
So that was that was that wascool, and you know, practicing
(02:15):
our um um ability to reach outand uh have access to our
representatives and our senatorsand you know say what's up to
them.
SPEAKER_00 (02:25):
Totally.
SPEAKER_02 (02:25):
Also fight against Veroes, etc.
SPEAKER_00 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, part of it.
I did not go this year, butwe're still I'm still involved
with the that whole team aswell, and it's really awesome
work.
And if that's something you'reinterested in, you're listening
to this, like please check outour show notes, talk to us, DM
us, we'd love to.
SPEAKER_03 (02:45):
We'll put a link, we'll pull a link out there for
the S band.
It's called Small BusinessAmbassadors Network.
If you want to be a part and bea voice of your um what do you
call it, district and state.
Uh make sure you sign up.
Yeah, it's our boy Yinka waspart of it as well.
Oh, as a matter of fact, our boyYinka won the Yinka Fan Club
(03:08):
Podcast.
SPEAKER_00 (03:08):
Yes, gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
Yinka won the advocacy seller award this year.
So um Anna won it last year.
SPEAKER_00 (03:17):
Yes, I was just looking at it on my shelf.
It's the Advocacy LeadershipAward.
SPEAKER_02 (03:22):
Congratulations, Inka.
That's like only only the bestof the best leadership awards.
SPEAKER_03 (03:27):
And I am convinced that if you hold that trophy,
you will somewhat cry.
Yeah.
Because as muscle-looking Incawas, he was able to uh you know
shed at least a tear.
And made everybody in the roomcry.
Oh my goodness.
So that was I'm crying rightnow.
Yeah, me too.
We love that.
(03:47):
So uh well deserving, welldeserving.
This guy's doing um yeah, youknow, a lot of work for us
because um, you know, especiallywith him being really close to
DC, he's especially the Mr.
Last Minute if a representativeor some somebody important wants
to see some sellers.
Uh Yinka's always been availablefor them.
So that's always good.
(04:08):
And he would be that guy that Iwant to represent.
And also a lawyer, so he knowswhat he's talking about.
SPEAKER_00 (04:13):
Yeah, me too.
Just outstanding character, veryarticulate, like a real seller
that has a passion for it.
He's like literally like theperfect poster child for it.
So I'm so happy for you, Yinka.
I know you're listening to thisbecause you listen to every
episode of your fan clubpodcast.
SPEAKER_02 (04:29):
So very happy for him.
I think also representing Texaswas um Profit First Reseller.
He's like a he has a YouTubechannel.
He has glasses, blue eyes.
I don't know his real namethough.
I just thought that's the firstone.
SPEAKER_03 (04:42):
Dan, Dan, Dan.
I meant Dan.
Yeah, yeah.
He said he had YouTube.
SPEAKER_02 (04:45):
He had YouTube connecting all the dots right
now.
SPEAKER_03 (04:49):
Yeah.
Oh, how how did you know of him?
SPEAKER_02 (04:51):
Um, I just saw some couple of his videos.
He kind of talks while he's likesorting things out, prepping
items.
Um that guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's him.
SPEAKER_03 (05:02):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:03):
He seems super uh super chill, very good.
Yeah, very cool.
SPEAKER_03 (05:07):
Um I talked to him, I talked to him a little bit,
and um that's what he said.
Like, I said, Are you onYouTube?
It's like, no, man, I'm onInstagram.
It's like, and he's on YouTube,and he's like, Man, I want to be
on Instagram.
So pretty pretty cool moment.
Pretty cool moment.
Yeah, he actually sat next toInka.
And he sat next to Jamie aswell.
So it was me, Yinka, Dan, andJamie and Crystal on the other
(05:30):
end.
So that's very cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good guy, good guy.
Yeah, you got goodrepresentation for for uh for
Texas.
SPEAKER_02 (05:37):
There we go.
Yeah, he said that he almost hedoes a lot of like uh
electronics and stuff like that.
So he's always like sorting, hegets them in like bulk and yeah,
like clean them up and test.
SPEAKER_03 (05:47):
Vintage video video consoles, stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02 (05:50):
Yeah, controllers, stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00 (05:52):
Mr.
Elbow Grease, yeah, yeah,exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (05:55):
Yeah, we know all that work that goes into that.
For sure.
No joke.
So that's pretty cool.
Yep.
That is cool.
SPEAKER_00 (06:02):
So I've had a busy week not gallivanting around the
Capitol, although I would haveloved to have gallivanted around
the Capitol again.
It's so fun.
But um, I'll just sorry, I'mtotally butting in, but I don't
remember if I've actually saidthis on the podcast yet.
But I officially have beenmoving into eBasement 3.0.
(06:22):
Um, I'm renting a space, whichis the basement of my friend's
small business building.
But guys, the great news is it'sa walkout basement, so there's
no stairs.
SPEAKER_03 (06:32):
Which is so this will be the will be the first
time in a long time that you'renot going through stairs.
SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
Yes, and that I'm not uh completely working from
home because I have to now go0.7 miles from my house.
Wow, 0.7 miles.
Yeah, it's very close.
But um still great.
SPEAKER_03 (06:53):
That would be a great walk.
1.4 miles a day at least.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:57):
I walk I walk around my neighborhood all the time.
So unless I have to carry stuff,a lot of stuff, I will probably
imagine carrying all this stuff.
I know, like here's a giant binof like whatever.
I'll have to get a wagon orsomething.
SPEAKER_03 (07:09):
Oh a wagon would be great.
SPEAKER_00 (07:10):
That wouldn't be dorky at all.
SPEAKER_03 (07:12):
No, no, no.
That would be so anna.
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
It's been, you know, moving stuff again, but not
nearly on the scale of movinglike my whole house.
So it doesn't really count asmoving, in my opinion.
But anyway, it's been a lot ofwork cleaning it up and getting
it organized, but it's beengreat.
It's like at least 10 times thespace that I have now.
Really affordable, higherceilings, too.
Higher ceilings, so muchpotential.
(07:35):
Also, things that storage unitsgenerally don't have, like Wi-Fi
and bathrooms and like lots ofreally good overhead lighting.
So I actually could run my wholestore from out there, but for
now I'm keeping my shippingstation at home.
I'll probably process inventoryat home for a while still until
I kind of get a good setup inboth places.
But so far, so good.
(07:55):
I'm absolutely loving it.
And I have so much room to grow,which was the whole point of
doing it because I'm ready tokeep growing my business again.
Like my my um like revenue hasgrown a lot this year in my
store, but my inventory isactually the smallest it's been
in a long time.
So I want to bulk that back upand hopefully also obviously the
(08:16):
revenue with it.
But I needed more space to dothat.
So here we are, and I'm that's ahuge prep for Q4 that I'm well.
SPEAKER_03 (08:24):
I mean, I was gonna say congratulations for making
some headway and some changesand some improvements to the
operation.
Right.
And as part of our series,talking about Q4 prep,
definitely you've done somethingthat would allow you to acquire
more inventory and process moreinventory.
Oh, yeah.
And um, our next prep for Q4,we've talked about you know
(08:48):
getting connected with yourcommunity, making sure that um
you are in the loop with all theupdates and you know, also just
build your support system aroundyou through the community.
Uh, last week we talked aboutall the different tactical
things that we could dodifferently.
A lot of it was just setting upgood foundation and you know,
little tweaks that we havelearned from last year, and also
(09:11):
part of that we talked aboutsourcing and how eBay seller
capital could help you acquiremore inventory on Q4.
In this episode, Anna, why don'tyou tell him what we're talking?
Where are we trying to upgradeor are we doing for prep as far
as Q4 would be concerned?
SPEAKER_00 (09:27):
Absolutely.
So Q4 is gearing up to be areally busy time for sellers.
Normally it's pretty busy,wouldn't you agree?
I don't know anybody who hasdoesn't have a busy Q4 really,
but so that part's not unusual,but I think it's the busyness of
running a business that reallyburns us out.
And so, in that, that was kindof my thought process of wanting
(09:51):
to do a mindset episode where wereally talk about something that
will help us keep from burningout.
And that thing is reconnectingto our purpose.
So, like, why are we doing thisbusiness in the first place?
Like, there are all kinds ofpurposes um behind all kinds of
different eBay stores or youknow, e-commerce businesses.
So, just to name like a few, itcould be flexibility or freedom,
(10:14):
time freedom, right?
It could be to provide for yourfamily, um, having greater
financial security or paying offyour student loans, like Glenn
did, or saving or investing,monetizing a passion or a hobby
that you love, learning a newskill, like trying to keep stuff
out of the landfill, doingsomething positive for the
planet.
Like there's literally so manypurposes.
(10:34):
I rattled those off.
And there's that's like a tinyfraction of the really driving
purposes that people have fortheir stores for running their
stores, right?
And devoting all the time andeffort it takes to do that.
So this was all coming to mymind a couple months ago because
I read this article, and I'mgonna link to the article in the
(10:55):
show notes, but it was writtenby a personal finance podcaster
that I follow, and this topicreally immediately reminded me
of all of our journeys.
And I thought, oh my gosh,Cellar Club needs to discuss
this because I think it totallyspeaks to all of us.
But um we're not gonna like readthe article word for word on
here, but in case you want toread it, and of course you can
(11:15):
find it in the show notes.
But the the podcaster I'mtalking about, his he goes by
the name Doc G, Dr.
Jordan Grummet, and his articleis called Are You Really the
Average of the Five People YouSpend the Most Time With?
And he just published this inAugust.
So, like I said, it was, youknow, a little over a month ago,
a month and a half, maybe that Iread the article and thought, oh
my gosh, we've got to talk aboutthis.
(11:37):
And so as I kind of was, youknow, had that on the back
burner in my mind when we'retalking about Q4 prep, I thought
this is a great opportunity forthat.
So I'm gonna like walk you guysthrough some of the ideas that
Doc G writes about in thisarticle.
And I just want us to discuss itbecause I'm so curious about I
don't know, just your insightsand how this applies to you.
Um you know, going back to thewhole foundation of this
(12:00):
podcast, uh, something that Ilove for us to do is kind of
exchange our wisdom and ourexperience from our very
different perspectives with ourdifferent stores and our
different journeys.
So this is another great kind ofway to do that.
So let's just let's just startwith kind of the premise of that
he's that he states in thetitle.
So have you heard of that ideabefore that you're the average
(12:21):
of the five people you spend themost time with?
SPEAKER_04 (12:24):
Yeah, yep.
SPEAKER_00 (12:26):
So like I think that became popular.
He talks about this in thearticle, but I think that became
popular in like the 80s and 90s.
And um a lot has changed sincethe 80s and 90s about proximity.
And you know, the idea here isthat the your proximity to other
people shapes your character,but it also shapes your success,
right?
Like applied to kind of businessand personal growth, it's all
(12:50):
about like your success, right?
If you're surrounding yourselfwith not successful people,
you're very unlikely to becomesuccessful, and like also the
opposite is true.
So, what do you think aboutthat?
Like, he kind of makes the casein this article, Doc G, that in
terms of physical proximity,we're more disconnected than
ever, you know, like we are onsocial media, we're not we're in
(13:14):
really disparate places, andwe're we're a perfect example of
that right now because we'rerecording this from Ohio,
Illinois, and Texas, and here weare spending spending time with
each other, but we're really notin proximity in the traditional
sense.
So, what do you think aboutthat?
How do you think that has likeimpacted your sense of community
or that you know the pe quoteunquote the people you spend the
(13:37):
most time with?
Just how different that is fromlike the 90s.
SPEAKER_02 (13:41):
Yeah, well, I think that's what's kind of like what
what you guys have just saidtoo.
It's that's what's kind of likesuffering right now is just that
in-person feel in touch.
Like people don't really knowhow to communicate with others
or get I don't know, like that.
It's just like a weird feeling,like they're they're just so
lost and they feel like I guessmore nervous, anxious to even
(14:03):
have like a conversation.
I know one of the examples islike back in like 2000s or like
late 90s, they used to have likevideo game tournaments and stuff
like that, right?
So you're playing somebody inMortal Kombat or Madden or
something, and so when you lose,you're literally l looking at
the other person that just wonand you're gonna take your L
(14:25):
like you would.
SPEAKER_03 (14:26):
Yeah, and so some there's some trash stalking uh
in close proximity.
SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
Exactly.
And so, even back in the 90s, ifyou want to go to like arcades
and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00 (14:36):
Yeah, that's so true.
SPEAKER_02 (14:38):
And so I remember my brother was telling me that they
had, I don't know, something inAustin, when he used to live in
Austin, this wasn't even toolong ago.
They had like a Tekkentournament or they had
something, and just so manypeople just did not want to do
it because they thought it wasgonna be like weird playing
somebody in a separate room witha headset on.
(14:59):
Not not being right next tothem, you know, like arm length,
you know.
I just found that very weird.
SPEAKER_00 (15:07):
Can't smack 'em.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02 (15:12):
So wait, what's missing that now to where you
can't even talk to anybodybecause you're you know, you're
not gonna do everything right.
If you lose, you lose.
I mean, it is what it is, but Ithink people have this fear now
of just talking to somebody,period, you know, maybe just
having a conversation or open arelationship, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:32):
Well, and as much as there are, you know, people
putting themselves out there onsocial media being quote unquote
authentic, it's like there'sstill like an extremely
performative nature to whatthey're doing.
Like even when they're likeintentionally not being
performative, the fact that it'sone of the things that's they
intentionally did it.
(15:53):
Yeah, right.
And the fact that it's theychoose what to show, and you
know, it's like one side, likeyou're observing them and you're
internally comparing yourself tothem or whatever.
It's not like the same as we'reall like in person in the same
space, like engaging in the samething or having a back and forth
in real time that's like allfive senses.
I don't know, it is it is waydifferent, right?
(16:15):
And I mean, there's reallyinteresting research on that.
Doc G even talks about some ofthat how this the influencer
culture kind of has led to justpeople feeling more isolated and
more anxious, and it's exactlyin line with what you're saying,
yeah.
And like it's convenient in away, it's like miraculous almost
that we can have all this accessor influence of each other from
(16:37):
so many different places at anyany point in time, but it's like
not it's not like holistic likeit would be if it was in person,
right?
SPEAKER_03 (16:46):
Yeah, I I think one of the things is it complete.
Yeah, one other thing I couldadd is for me and how I look at
you know, like the technology,the internet, um I've always um
viewed it as an addition, not asa replacement.
So, you know, like I would stillprefer a close proximity,
(17:11):
contact, and conversation withyou know people, and then I can
video call you.
SPEAKER_00 (17:19):
Right, it's like the follow-up or something like
that.
Right, like the supplement.
SPEAKER_03 (17:24):
Yes, yes.
That's kind of like how I I viewit.
Kind of like, you know, like youknow, like my parents are still
in the Philippines, soobviously, realistically, it's
hard to meet weekly, you know,in person, but we do meet
yearly, and the supplement of itis you know, we we're on video
calls, you know, weekly.
SPEAKER_00 (17:42):
So that's why you had to track down Glenn in real
life after as you learned fromhim on YouTube.
SPEAKER_03 (17:49):
No, a hundred percent.
I I'm not kidding.
No, I I I think that that's Iguess before even explaining
what I did, that's whatliterally what I just explained,
right?
Like I've watched this guy onYouTube for so long, I've
interacted on through chat.
Yeah, I've even had a video callwith him.
But it went far.
(18:09):
Yeah, and I was just like, no,let me see if this guy's real,
you know?
SPEAKER_00 (18:13):
Exactly.
I mean, that's it.
You're like not actually aweirdo who's just an insatiable
friend.
You're like, but who are youreally?
SPEAKER_03 (18:20):
Yeah, I I thought he was I thought it was AI before
AI.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:25):
I remember um, I mean, like in my kind of like
psychology professoringpsychotherapy days, I remember
having a lot of conversationswith people about experiential
knowledge, right?
Like this would happen oftenthat people would come to like
their first or second therapysession and they would tell me a
lot about themselves, obviously,right?
(18:46):
Like in an hour or two hours.
But like I couldn't possiblyknow their entire life in an
hour or two hours.
And this is like not just me,not just me as a therapist, but
like in therapy in general, thishappens all the time where
people come in, they tell youstuff about themselves because
they're trying to like lay out,you know, the the problem or
whatever they're working on orwhatever they're struggling
with.
And they leave that first orsecond hour and and they say
(19:09):
things like, I feel like youknow me better than anyone else
in my life, and I've only metyou for two hours.
And um, as a therapist, I feellike there's a flip side to that
where I feel like, okay, after acouple of hours, no, of course I
don't know everything about you.
Like, you know, I only andyou're my only source of
information.
Like I know whatever you'redeciding to tell me.
(19:31):
But at the same time, like youget a really good sense of that
person and you continue to learnabout them over time.
Like there's so much, people areso such deep wells of
information.
But I could, you know, adapt tothat person or kind of
understand them going forwardbecause I had this experiential
(19:52):
knowledge.
And same thing of like why theywould trust me and tell me more
the next week and the next weekis because they had experiential
knowledge of me and they knewalmost nothing about me.
Like I'm not sitting theretelling them all about my life,
but they have experienced me asa person in real life in that,
you know, in that setting.
They've experienced me inperson, so they know who I am,
(20:13):
like by experience, even if theydon't have all the information,
they have like this experience.
So that is so powerful, and Ifeel like that is missing a lot
from these kind of like virtualinteractions.
And that's why, like, you know,like I totally agree with what
you're saying, Ken.
Like the other the virtual stuffis a great supplement to to the
(20:34):
the the home base stuff ofexperience, experiential
knowledge that can really onlyhappen like in some kind of
in-person capacity.
But anyway, this is all like Ilove this kind of stuff, like I
love these kind of topics.
But so Doc G takes this idea,right?
This proximity thing, the fivepeople that you spend the most
(20:56):
time with, and he kind of flipsit on his head and he kind of
says, I wanna I wanna alter thisidea from that to say instead
that today, right, in 2025, likewe're not the product of the
five people around us.
We're the product of the five orhowever many activities we build
purpose around because ouridentities form around what
(21:18):
lights us up, the things wepursue, not because others do
them, but because they actuallymatter to us.
So, and that's kind of aparaphrase.
Um, but how do how do you thinkthat applies to us like as
business people?
Because we all found our way tothis from other things, right?
Other endeavors, other jobs.
And of course, like I alwaysjoke about how much I love
(21:40):
shipping, but you know, shippingstuff from my basement in and of
itself is like not my purpose inlife.
It's not that is not my highestcalling, but it's more like what
doing this business representsand allows me to have in my
life.
That's what's really connectedto my purpose.
So, how does that work for youguys?
(22:01):
It's a thinker.
SPEAKER_02 (22:02):
Yeah, I haven't really had to think about this.
And I don't know if you haveanything right off the bat, but
it's kind of like I well, meanme and the wife always talk
about this too, and not to bemean to any of my friends right
now, but I'm always kind ofthinking like you know, I I've
gotten back and forth with it along time.
Like, what if I did live inOhio?
Like, what if I did live inIndiana and have in between kind
(22:23):
of like Sneakers Envy and Kenand been able to just have more
of that relatability?
I do feel like it does getlonely at times too, because
like I do have high schoolfriends that I still talk to,
even though it's been so long,you know.
Yeah, and and I think that'sfine.
But in besides kind of likegrowing up together where we're
(22:44):
at right now, we're just likevery, very different, you know.
I'm just yeah trying to do a lotof things on my own when it
comes to like business or socialmedia or something.
And for the most part, a lot ofthem have a lot of full-time
jobs, and there's nothing wrongwith that, but it's just that
they they're not really gonnaunderstand or even ask, really,
(23:05):
like right what I'm goingthrough, or how do I kind of
like get out of certainsituations um to provide for my
family by selling online.
Yeah.
Like it's it's not we know it'snot easy, but it's totally
different than clocking in,which I've done.
SPEAKER_00 (23:21):
You know, I've done both, but but like you you're
basically relating to themmostly based on your history,
not your present or your future.
You know, so it's like it'sdifferent, it's valuable, like
that's beautiful.
Old friends are amazing to have,but that doesn't mean they can
like you can relate to them thesame way throughout your whole
life, you know.
And yeah, it it makes sense.
(23:43):
Like the people that you'requote unquote around are not in
physical proximity to you, butyou make a point to spend time
with them in ways that you canbecause you are running this
race together, you know, likeand you have to find a way to do
that, even if it is like maybenot as ideal as it would be if
they were in person.
Why don't you make them all moveto El Paso?
(24:04):
I mean, come on.
Why do you have to move?
SPEAKER_03 (24:07):
He's gonna have to move.
SPEAKER_00 (24:10):
I I think I I think like absolutely not.
SPEAKER_02 (24:16):
Yeah, I know, right?
SPEAKER_03 (24:17):
Yeah, so so that I think those are a few moves.
Uh no, I I that's always been onmy mind.
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
Um getting land to move to Ohio.
SPEAKER_03 (24:26):
That is one.
Um, but also like gotta leave,let's just buy a 20-acre
property and let's live in eachcorner of that 20-acre property.
I know, Ken.
SPEAKER_00 (24:36):
You're very charismatic.
I would be really worried aboutit turning into a cult.
No offense.
SPEAKER_03 (24:42):
I love like any new friend is like, come on over.
SPEAKER_00 (24:45):
Yeah, you live here now.
SPEAKER_03 (24:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (24:47):
Um by the way, don't talk to your family anymore.
SPEAKER_03 (24:50):
I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_00 (24:51):
I'm just kidding.
You're not a cult leader.
SPEAKER_03 (24:52):
No, no, no, no, no.
Um, I'm a I'm a thought leader.
You know, not a cult leader.
Yeah, I think I think um, youknow, there is definitely um I
think that's that's the I guessthe line that you will have to
cross one day that that would bea turning point of somebody's
kind of like the the midlife uhkind of change, you know.
(25:16):
Um I was like listening to abook that um who's this guy?
Berkshire Hathaway.
Warren Buffett.
Uh-huh.
Right, right.
SPEAKER_00 (25:26):
The best investor of all time.
SPEAKER_03 (25:27):
Right, right.
Still lives in Omaha, Nebraska.
Right, and and the cre one ofthe craziest things is he has
his shareholders meeting there.
SPEAKER_00 (25:36):
Yeah, he does.
SPEAKER_03 (25:38):
You know, I know, yeah, like you're coming to me,
you know, and I'm just like, andand that says a lot about about
you know, like we're talkingabout proximity.
It's like, yeah, if you reallywant to learn in how I operate,
like you come to me because thisis my house, my town.
SPEAKER_00 (25:53):
Well, for sure.
So I mean that that's anotherpart of this too.
It's like with all of thepotential influence that's out
there, quote unquote, right?
Like, you could be followingsomeone, but if you never did
anything about it, it's notgonna make you more successful.
Like you don't get successful byosmosis, and that's why Glenn
loves to tell everyone to what?
SPEAKER_03 (26:13):
To go out and get it and get it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:16):
That's right.
Not like tune in next week formore information, but go out and
get it, right?
Like no, no, no, get up and getit.
Oh, I like that thing.
SPEAKER_03 (26:24):
I like that.
I like that.
And um, yeah, no, I think uh Ithink it's a still big
possibility that it couldhappen.
So we might have to just makeAnna move.
I mean, at this point, Anna'sreally a per up at moving Glenn.
So really good at moving.
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
I will I will 100% fight El Paso and help you pack.
I would do that in a heartbeat.
SPEAKER_02 (26:40):
Uh Jim promise Henry already said he would he'd start
packing, he wouldn't even breakin and start packing.
SPEAKER_03 (26:48):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean one day you'll justwake up, there's like a pod
container outside of yourstorage.
SPEAKER_00 (26:59):
We're friends now.
We're friends, we're a bit, Imean, we were we can't.
Oh, they've had they've haddonuts together.
They've had donuts together inthis official.
See, and this is exactly whatwe're talking about.
We met in person finally inVegas for eBay Open, and now
we're b besties.
SPEAKER_01 (27:12):
Yeah, love them.
SPEAKER_00 (27:14):
Yeah.
So I'm like, oh my gosh, you'reeverything I heard about, and
you know, acquaintance-wise,interacted with you and have
great interactions, but like,yeah, they're amazing.
So I get it.
I get why you want to move rightin between them, Glenn.
SPEAKER_03 (27:27):
So uh, so uh yeah, I I think um that is a great
concept, and I feel like totruly, truly do something great
and memor uh memorable andlegendary, um, there will be I
mean my move here, come on, mymove here from the Philippines,
(27:48):
I think, is already legendary inmy story, but I can't wait for
more uh oh yeah because all ofthis wouldn't have happened.
You know?
Yeah none of I mean even thispodcast wouldn't have happened
if if a move so so would you saya physical move is one
(28:08):
requirement in a someone's storyto make it legendary?
SPEAKER_00 (28:13):
I mean, I don't think it necessarily has to be
like moving the location whereyou live, but I think the
fundamental idea of making amaking decisive physical action
moves in your life definitelyis.
You can't just think about itforever or you know, ponder it
or plan it.
You have to do stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (28:31):
So when we have to do stuff.
So when we have our giantwarehouse, we just have to make
sure there's apartments withinthe warehouse or next door to
it.
Right.
That way we could just, youknow, there's most successful
people have multiple houses andmultiple places to live.
Right.
Right?
Okay, that makes sense.
Okay.
You're like soul, okay, got it.
(28:52):
We'll get that together.
We'll add we'll add that to thebusiness plan.
SPEAKER_00 (28:55):
Okay, so another thing I haven't told you guys
about Doc G himself is that heis actually he's a doctor, he's
a medical doctor, but he's ahospice doctor.
So he's heard a lot of reallysobering and wise things from
people at the end of their life.
And I think this is why I love,you know, his his perspective on
(29:15):
things like this that are alittle more existential, because
he's like been, you know,literally with people on their
deathbed like so many times, andhe's gotten to hear all of that
wisdom in in a difficultsetting, but he like it's not
lost on him, right?
Like he obviously thinks deeplyabout some of these things.
Um but I want to ask you guys,I'm just gonna throw these out
there.
So I want you to listen to thesequestions and just see if any of
(29:38):
them kind of resonates with you,especially.
Got it.
Um, or not.
But he says if you're trying tofigure out like what are the
anchors for your purpose, likeyou're just going, Oh, I don't
know.
Like I just I need to work a jobbecause I need money.
I don't really know where thepurpose fits in or whatever it
is.
I mean, this is like, you know,these are big life things to
consider.
(29:59):
So um Instead of searching forlike five amazing people to
surround yourself with, he'ssaying we should be searching
for anchors for our purpose.
So here are some questions toask yourself if you're looking
for those anchors, okay?
So what is it that stirs yourspirit?
What keeps you up at night?
What makes you lose track oftime?
(30:21):
Um, if you were lying on yourdeathbed far too early, what
would you regret never havingthe courage, energy, or time to
pursue?
What brought you joy as a childbefore grades, careers, and
expectations clouded thepicture?
What aspects of the work you'recurrently doing do you dislike,
(30:42):
and what's left over when youstrip those parts away?
And finally, what am I curiousenough to try, even if it scares
me a little?
Any of the These are a lot.
I know.
I mean, I feel like all of themreally are like powerful, but I
just wonder if any off the topof your head like that.
SPEAKER_03 (31:02):
Mine would be not just scare me a little, scare me
a lot.
SPEAKER_00 (31:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
I think that's anything s anything that your
thoughts think is scary, Ialways ask myself, is it deadly?
SPEAKER_00 (31:19):
Yeah.
Usually not.
SPEAKER_03 (31:20):
Because it's yeah, like we live in the 21st
century, like it's not not hhardly anything's deadly unless
you're being recklessphysically.
Um and I think everything'sworth a shot.
And also I think a lot of peoplethink about that you only have
one chance or one try at it.
(31:43):
Um so uh there's this conceptabout um just uh keep kissing
the frog or keep kissing frogs.
Yeah, yeah, keep keep kissingthe kids.
Keep kissing frogs, yeah, right?
(32:04):
Because eventually you'll findyour prince.
That's okay.
So um, so you'll have multiplechances.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:10):
Um that's so true.
Even if you do something scaryand it fails, that's not the
end.
That's not the end, it's onetry.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:17):
So so I I think everybody has to think that you
have a lot of uh chances.
Um as you know, I mean, again,you know, if you're listening to
Shadow Club podcasts, you're notsomebody that's reckless or
yeah, you're trying to grow.
So if any if anything thatyou're trying, it's just
something a different way ofdoing it that you've never done
before.
(32:37):
Totally.
I think that's always one thatkind of jumped out of me.
And and the rest is like I justlive through it daily, like I
can't sleep.
SPEAKER_00 (32:50):
No, but I I think like a lot of these that are
more like question your wholelife type of questions.
I mean, these are importantquestions to ask.
I'm comfortable with thosequestions, probably because I
have therapy background, but itis like, yes, I I've examined a
lot of those things in my life,and that is exactly why I'm
doing this business and notsomething else, as like the
(33:12):
center of my work.
So for me, as far as it appliesto my business, like I know what
my purposes are, and doing thisbusiness allows me to have more
time and energy for those, youknow.
The business itself, though, isa passion of mine at this point.
It didn't really start out thatway, but it is now.
And especially because I'm somuch more connected to
community, that's you know, likerelated to running my eBay
(33:36):
store.
So I think for me, the questionthat that is the most important
when I actually am thinking ofthis through the lens of my
business is the last one.
What am I curious enough to try,even if it scares me?
A little or a lot, right?
Because it's really easy to juststagnate or burn out, or just
work too hard at something thatisn't the full potential and
(33:57):
burn out.
So in order to avoid that, Ithink that's a question I need
to keep asking myself.
Like, what is the purpose withinmy business?
And how is my like curiosity andmy willingness to kind of risk
things like leading me closer tothat?
So I really like that one forthe business side.
(34:17):
Glenn, have you had time toponder all of these?
SPEAKER_02 (34:19):
I did, and this is uh there's a lot.
Um I think that's the scariestpart of the business side is
that you don't know what you'redoing is right because you have
to keep on going until I mean, Iguess till finally you say this
is not working, but some peoplejump it too early and some
(34:41):
people are too late to make thatpivot or make that change, and
so yeah, that's really likedifficult too, because you have
to know when to do it and youdon't.
SPEAKER_00 (34:52):
So yeah, it would be really nice to know with
certainty, but yeah, you whetheryou know or not, you have to
decide, right?
SPEAKER_02 (35:01):
Yeah, to make the choice.
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna stopthis or I'm going to keep going.
SPEAKER_00 (35:06):
Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_02 (35:08):
And I feel like through all these years going
through YouTube and differentplatforms, I've like like Kennet
said, I've made different pivotsat the right time, which I try
to for the most part.
I'm I'm not gonna be right ahundred percent.
Um and there's things that Istill wanna do that I haven't
done also because of like maybemy system that I'm doing right
(35:32):
now isn't the best.
Like maybe I could really doless while getting more done.
You know, so I'm always tryingto figure that out.
Like what else can I do toeliminate maybe some some time
wasters, and it's not evenanything of like going on social
media or anything, it's justlike simple routines, or maybe
(35:52):
getting up a little bit earlier,or maybe I don't know what that
is.
So I'm trying to always figurethat out, you know.
Right.
And even looking at, you know,like YouTube, me and me and Ken
doing like live shows that wehad done for man, like three
plus years.
It was uh people still ask now.
(36:14):
I got like a DM the other day,like when are you doing live
shows again and everything?
And I'm like, I don't know ifand when we're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01 (36:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (36:22):
Um, of course I would love to do that, but
there's only so much that Icould do from everything else
that is already going on, andthen plus adding, you know,
family and you know, a seconddaughter coming soon, so that's
gonna be another life-changingmoment.
Yeah, and so I think the thingthat I'm I mean, going through
(36:43):
your questions, like, is thereanything that's keeping me awake
at night?
No, I do sleep pretty good.
Good.
Um, which I'm I'm probablytired.
I mean, yeah, tired, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:52):
But you know, at peace.
SPEAKER_02 (36:54):
Yeah, but one thing that I feel like I'm lacking or
that would like to do more,which is like helping people.
I felt like the channel at thetime was really doing what it
intended to do, which was likehelping people pay off their
student loans or find a way toresell on eBay, um a different
way of looking.
(37:14):
Because I was doing like garagesales and thrifting and things
like that when I first started,and it's very relatable.
You know, of course, um how manynow how many people do that now
compared to when we firststarted like the channel and
stuff?
It's totally different.
But I feel like with me beingable to like pay off my mortgage
and being debt-free and thingslike that, like because of eBay,
(37:38):
I'm not really getting thatstory out on how I could help
people, especially in a timeright now where the number one
Google search is help withmortgage.
Wow.
That's literally the top searchright now.
SPEAKER_00 (37:51):
Oh my gosh, that's wild.
SPEAKER_02 (37:53):
Yeah, and I feel like I've I have a lot of like
info and also experience to helppeople and to also bring it in a
different way that I don't thinkYouTubers have done by showing,
like, hey, you can pay off yourmortgage and extra bills by
selling on eBay.
Yeah.
This is how you can do it.
(38:13):
And that's something that I'vebeen kind of like working on
behind the scenes that I wouldlike to bring back to the
channel.
So that's one thing that I thinkis just kind of like a like a
goal of mine.
SPEAKER_00 (38:25):
For sure.
Well, and I mean, there'sthere's so much purpose all over
that, right?
Like for you, it's like doingsomething that gives back for
anybody consuming that content,like that's just starting over
the cycle of like what's theirpurpose for doing their
business.
It probably is like peace ofmind.
I want to sleep better at night,I want financial security, I
want to pay off my debts, youknow.
(38:45):
Like, yeah, that's I mean, ahuge concern for people that I
think gets really in the way.
I mean, sometimes sort ofnecessarily gets in the way of
whatever else they're reallylike on earth to do, right?
Like we get preoccupied withthese things that stress us out
and that we are bound to uhfulfill these obligations and
(39:06):
pay these bills and all thisstuff.
And it's like how much energyand time is worrying about that
or struggling to do that, takingaway from like as a human being,
like what are you on this earthfor?
You know, so like I feel likethere's so many aspects of
purpose that kind of apply tothis.
Um, but I love that, Glenn.
Anything we can do to help youput that out there, like we
(39:27):
should.
Um, I think too, I really likeso back going back to this
article.
Doc G doesn't totally throw outthe five influential people in
your life with the bathwater.
He just kind of rearranges thiswhole thing.
And I do want to read one quoteum directly from the article,
and he says, Whatever it is,talking about your purpose,
whatever it is, build a lifearound it, commit to it.
(39:49):
And in doing so, you'll startshowing up as your most
authentic, energized, andintentional self.
And from that space, you'llnaturally find others on similar
journeys, people who share yourpurpose, your values, and your
passions.
They will become your fivepeople, your collaborators,
friends, mentors, and students.
Not because you chased them, butbecause you built something real
(40:11):
that brought them into yourlife.
And that, honestly, when I wasreading this article, like I
wasn't just arbitrarily likedoing some random homework on
the internet to find a topic forseller club.
I was just reading this articlebecause I was interested in it.
But when I read that, I thought,that is us.
Yeah.
That is how we are in eachother's lives.
(40:32):
And I know that's true for somany people in our community,
across the reselling community.
Um, but that idea that when youput your purpose first and you
like anchor everything with yourpurpose, those five influential
people who are gonna make yousuccessful are gonna be drawn
into your life that way.
Yeah, that's the reason they'regonna show up.
(40:53):
So I think that's such a coolidea.
Um, Doc G, I think, hit the nailon the head with it.
But yeah, like what do you guysthink about that?
I feel like that's a hundredpercent the story of your
friendship.
But ours too.
Like, I think all of us indifferent ways.
SPEAKER_03 (41:08):
And it it's kind of just like, you know, we joke
around that can force Glenn andAnna to be friends because I saw
it's a hard sell.
Right.
I saw it that you know how howwe've elevated each other's
lives is how we've elevated eachother's lives as well in a
different way, and together wecould show a lot of the people
(41:31):
that are somewhat interested indoing the same way that it is
possible, and it's not becauseof just proximity, although
proximity is important, um, andnumber two is not because of we
have the same business model,totally not even close, and or
you know, we have we went to thesame school, we have a history
(41:55):
together, you know, like wedidn't we don't have a history,
um, but I think what connectedus is how we're trying to see
the future and and how we'retrying to make impact in
people's lives.
Definitely, and you know, to addto to Glenn's point, like you
know, like trying to find a wayto help more people.
Um, I mean, I think that's oneof the reasons why we've we're
(42:15):
doing this.
And you know, just recentlywe've had a conversation of like
how can we make this bigger?
You know, how can we make thisglobal?
How can we partner with people?
Because, you know, one thingthat I found out that you know
uh uh young Hustleby would neveradmit that um it takes more than
himself, just him, just him, youknow, and so now I'm more about
(42:38):
like oh I I need more people,the more, the merrier, the
better it is, and the further wecan go and the bigger the impact
we can do.
And and I think to add on to ittoo, um, you know, as far as
like looking, finding forpurpose, and I think this has
been the question that I've beenasking myself, and I've kind of
just like um it kind of isgiving is giving me peace that
(43:01):
if everything is financiallytaken care of, what brings you
fulfillment?
Right.
And and and you know, kind oflike the I think one of the
famous questions is like, ifmoney wasn't an issue, what
would you be doing?
Would you still be doing whatyou're doing right now if money
wasn't an issue?
Right.
And I I've answered that thingover and over again.
(43:23):
I've always said yes, I'll stillbe doing this, but I think I
have to correct myself that ifmoney wasn't an issue, I'd be
doing bigger things than this.
Yeah, I would just uhexponentially grow it bigger and
more, I guess, louder if I canbe more louder.
SPEAKER_00 (43:43):
You're like, if that's even possible.
Um, I think it is possible,first of all.
But yeah, I I love that.
And I think you know, if that'sa great question again to drive
down, to drill down to whatmatters to you the most, or like
maybe what you're what you'rehere for, right?
Like what your purpose is, whatyour task, your assignment is,
(44:05):
whatever, however you want tosee it.
But um, but then you also haveto take that answer and bring it
back to the reality that youlive in where money is an object
for most people, right?
Yeah.
So, and therefore, how can youproceed knowing what matters the
most to you and continuing to dothe things that you kind of
functionally have to do?
Like it doesn't have to be oneor the other, but it can really
(44:27):
change your mindset, it canreally change your approach to
things, it can change your goalsand your priorities.
Like it will totally reshapeyour life to actually honest to
goodness evaluate that.
So I would just encourageeverybody to, you know, think
through some of those questionsif they're not too scary.
I know they're like really bigquestions.
(44:48):
Um, also, you know, go read DocG's article.
We're linking to it in the shownotes.
Um, because there's a lot morenuance too that we didn't even
have time to talk about.
But I think we did a pretty goodjob of hitting the main points
of of his message in thearticle.
And really, again, like I itjust reminded me of us, you
know.
I thought, like, wow, this islike the stuff that matters.
(45:10):
And um, of course, we lovetalking shop, we love talking
about the the kind of nuts andbolts and the platform updates
and the strategy and theefficiencies and whatever of our
businesses.
All that is really great, butlike for why, you know, for
what?
Yeah, and I think that is a is aum a fair question, right?
(45:32):
It's a necessary question.
SPEAKER_03 (45:33):
For sure, you know.
Um, anything else you want toadd on to that, Glenn?
SPEAKER_02 (45:38):
Uh no, I think it was very, very interesting and
very thoughtful that you and alot of things you have to go
through personally afterlistening to it.
So Yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (45:46):
A lot of questions.
SPEAKER_00 (45:47):
You're welcome.
Ask yourself.
SPEAKER_03 (45:49):
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I mean, as part of Q4Prep, I think um Q4 is not just
an ending to the business thatwe have crafted and we have
built this year, but it is alsothe beginning of how we could
start a better year next year.
That's right.
So it's the setup, it's thesetup for the get up.
SPEAKER_00 (46:13):
I'll take it.
SPEAKER_03 (46:14):
Yeah, right, right.
I guess so.
I guess so.
I guess so.
So, guys, thank you again for uhlistening to this podcast.
We will see you in the nextepisode.
Again, huge shout-out to eBay.
Make sure you follow eBay firstsellers on Instagram to keep up
to date with everything thateBay is doing.
And we will see you in the nextone.
Peace.
See ya.
SPEAKER_00 (46:34):
Bye.
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