September 10, 2024 • 44 mins
This week Basham and Bryce sit down to draw for the winner of an entry to the $6,500 PKC hunt in Junction, IL and also discuss the upcoming UKC World Zones. This is a fun episode that you will not want to miss!
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I don't know what you were doing there, but I'm here.
I was sending you a request to join like 18 times.
You weren't letting me in, homie.
I kept hitting add, but it wouldn't let me.
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Even now, you're going through my regular speaker and not my speaker's phone, but I
can still hear you loud enough, so I'm good.
Yeah, I'm going to turn you up a little bit here.
Yeah, you're kind of quiet, but alright.
We're in.
We're in like Flynn, bro.
Yep, what's going on, buddy?
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Well, get a natural light for today's actions.
Like piss water.
Oh, Natty light.
Delicious.
I love it.
Alright, no, I just got back from the boys football game, so they're actually still
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playing.
Usually they play seventh and eighth grade together, so I was like, alright, easy.
Same game, you know, not not today.
They had enough for a seventh grade team and enough for an eighth grade team.
So I watched Colton play seventh grade and I didn't get to stay for the eighth grade
game so I could be on here.
But Jason, don't nobody need to hear too unintelligent people talk.
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Now I got more important things to do than to watch the debate tonight.
Yeah, yeah, we're not into that.
Yeah, no, Jason, bad enough headache right now.
I don't need I don't need any worse than the one but it's OK.
Jason told me last time we hunted together that his wife makes him not watch us all the
time because she doesn't like, you know, she doesn't like whenever he has his phone playing
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all the time.
So we know who who wears the pants there.
She probably has the debate on.
So where are you headed this weekend?
This weekend I am going to reading Michigan UKC World Qualifiers or zones.
So that's where wheels and I are going.
We're going to need some luck.
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We need we need something.
Hope and a prayer.
Man let me tell you this dog was so everybody knows the story.
He was down and out with their lick.
Yeah, out all summer.
Terrible treating him with the I was all shot.
Got about three and a half, four weeks in their treatment.
He come out on fire.
I mean, I thought I had a brand new dog.
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I was ready to take on the world.
Nikki takes an autumn Oaks gets a cast win at autumn Oaks at a girl.
Not enough to get in the top 16, but you know, she got caught in the storm and a lot of factors
that played into that.
So got the cast win.
That's all you can ask for.
Come home from Oaks and the wheels haven't fallen off, but he's just not he's just not
clicking on all cylinders.
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Like I feel like, you know, whenever you're running down the highway and these new vehicles
and you start out on eight cylinders and then all of a sudden it like automatically kicks
you down to six cylinders for fuel saving.
I feel like that's where we're at right now.
I feel like we're running on six cylinders trying to save a little fuel.
So hopefully we can we can turn it back on this weekend for the zones and be ready to
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go.
Hey, at least you're not like me and running on a flat tire.
So a little backstory real quick.
We took which you knew this before Oaks spot just ain't been looking right.
You know, on the ground a lot longer, missing a lot.
Just, just no energy, nothing.
So you know, being in the dog world, we thought he's tested positive for earlier before.
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Yes, sir.
Mr. Lane.
Yes, sir.
It is.
Yeah, we're going to draw for y'all got to listen to us ramble for a little bit first.
Y'all got to hang on for a minute.
Hook line and sinker.
Yeah, hook line and sinker.
So spot was missing, just no energy, blah, blah, blah.
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He's had our Lick yet before.
So took him to the vet.
Well, the vet goes to check him out and realizes that his lymph nodes are three times the size
that they're supposed to be.
A rat road, Scooby.
Yeah, a rat road.
So they done some tests.
James Ashley says they got us in a pinch.
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So they did they did some tests.
The vet was hoping it would come back or like you because that's best case scenario is a
G L O P I believe it is, which is the proteins in his body were way elevated.
So yeah, come back negative on our Lick.
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Yeah, no, back.
Yeah.
I took him back to the vet yesterday and they ran another plethora of panels and so we should
know something in three or four days.
Man, I was listening to a podcast this morning on my way to work with Heath Hyatt and he was
talking about something like that dog just not acting right and took it into the vet.
And yeah, Ashton, you're right.
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They definitely use this draw in his advertisement 100 percent.
Actually, I was contacted and asked if I would do a raffle for this hunt.
So no, it was not simple dog in using it.
Now, once I was asked, oh, hell yeah, it became a publicity stunt.
Yeah.
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But like I said, I was listening to that podcast this morning and Heath Hyatt was talking about
that head dog just wasn't acting right and his lymph nodes swelled up and ended up being
lymphoma.
So hopefully that is not it.
Yeah, that won't be a good day.
No.
But we got Woodrow Smith on here.
We got Brock McDaniel.
We got 30 people watching this thing today.
I mean, they waiting for this drawing, you know, we need to have a raffle every time.
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That's what we need to do.
I'm waiting for a few more names.
Yeah.
OK, so hey, all you guys that are sitting here watching, though, waiting on us to get
this raffle drawing going.
And for those listeners who don't know what's going on tonight.
So tonight we're drawn for a $6500 entry to Junction, Illinois.
So, Basher, why don't you kind of explain how that all come about?
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So I was just contacted.
There was a couple of entries left over.
And you know, we always like we, you know, one thing that we've liked doing here, you
know, in the last few big hunts is just being able to raffle off one of the big hunts, give
somebody the opportunity to, you know, some of the guys that normally don't go, which
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sometimes the guys that normally do go still win the entry.
But still, it gives an opportunity for somebody that doesn't normally get to go to an event
like that, a $6500 entry.
It gives them an opportunity to win one and take their dog up there and see if they can't
come out on top.
So I was contacted by Shane asking if I would run a raffle for him.
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So I ran it.
Here we go.
You know, I figured we'd do it.
It just happened that we got them all paid for and everything like that and was able
to do it right here on Semper Dog and Dog and Tuesday.
So once again, guys, I appreciate everybody getting their money in and getting paid.
Anybody that's ever ran a raffle like this, it is a it's a pain in the ass to run, getting
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everybody's money and making sure that it's ready to go and getting the names and all
that.
It becomes a pain in the ass to get it, but we're able to get it done.
Shout out to Shane for allowing us to do that.
Yeah.
So everybody who's watching, like I'm curious how many people are are wanting to go to the
$6500 this weekend?
How many people that are watching?
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Do you know got an entry?
Have you seen who all's on here?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's there's there's a lot of your normal guys.
You know, you got let's see here.
You got Greg Maynard, Koi Watson, Waylon Pierce, Jed Finley, Joey Goforth got a couple.
One of our sponsors, Parker Reese, Ashton Hall, Dylan Jones, Zach Boring, Josh McAlice,
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Kyle Dorch, Randy Lawson, Josh Sparks, Mason Bush, Patrick Burch, James Ashley.
There's like I said, there's quite a few.
Ashley Gunthree, Jake Reiniger.
Hey, Joey, go for it.
I got a couple.
Joey Goforth said he's got ten dollars to get you some hair color.
And he said them dogs making you go gray.
True.
Now it's dealing with Bryce.
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That's what's making it go gray.
No.
And Nikki says, is this the same weekend, the same as the Zones?
Yes, it is.
So yes, it is.
We've got we've got two conflicts here.
And we've talked about this before, but it's just I don't understand why we can't make
something happen here.
We got a big $6500 entry the same weekend as the UKC World Zones.
Then you turn around next weekend and you've got the Superstakes finals the same weekend
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as the UKC World.
Like these two registries need to come up with a way to move these hunts away from each
other because ultimately they're putting the hunters in a pinch and they are costing themselves
money.
If you look at they are costing themselves money.
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It doesn't win for them to do this on the same weekends.
And I don't know why somebody can't give up one weekend.
There's 51 other weekends in the year.
So I don't get it.
You know, James Ashley says they're just killing each other.
And that's exactly right.
Hey, I want to give a shout out though to James Ashley real quick.
I contacted him and his wife a couple weeks ago wanting to get some hats made for Rafter
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E Family Farmstead and talked to them over there.
Autumn Oaks.
They were working on the designs and stuff.
And she just sent me the finished products and pictures yesterday and they are slick.
Rick, they make some nice looking hats.
So I want to say big shout out to James Ashley and his wife booking designs.
If you guys are looking for solid leathers, hand sewn leather patch caps, book them designs
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is the way to go.
Pretty pumped to get them in the mail here and start sporting them on here.
Daughtry is watching.
I'm surprised he's awake yet.
It's not time for him to wake up yet, is it?
No, not usually.
No, I didn't think so.
Yeah.
I noticed some of the guys on here.
They've not listened to us before.
So hey guys, just head on over to iHeartRadio, Spotify, anywhere that you go to listen to
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music or podcasts, search Simper Doggin and you'll find all of our podcasts.
It's all on there every other Friday and then every other Tuesday.
Jason, we have not drawed.
We are about to do that.
Yeah.
So I'm pretty excited for this weekend.
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Like I said, the zones.
They had like 94 entries up there in Michigan.
I think they're taking 17.
So wheels and I were, we were able to get through the top 100 last year and I'm hoping
that we can do that again.
This year I was ex or not excited.
I was surprised to see the amount of entries down to Flora, Illinois.
Goodness gracious.
Oh yeah.
There's a lot.
It's Illinois.
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So, okay.
Let's, let's talk about this too.
And why, why is the world zones and the super stakes finals being held darn near in the
same town in Illinois?
It's part of it.
Yeah.
Because the, uh, well you got floor and then the world hunts in Marshall, Illinois.
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Yeah.
I mean, they're within an hour of each other.
Ain't they?
Yeah.
Like we've got two major hunts going on just burning up that little section of the country.
Yeah.
In one weekend.
I don't do this raffle.
I guess you had, do you have it figured out?
I didn't do anything for it.
So this is on you.
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If we have technical difficulty guys, this is on Steven Basham.
Trevor Stark rather said, he said, what's the raffle?
Trevor, this is for the $6,500 entry hunt this weekend in junction, Illinois.
Logan Ray just got on here just in time.
All right, Brassum, let's get a drum roll, please.
All right, I'm going to hit this shuffle three or four times.
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Shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle.
Hey, I got a question while you're shuffling real quick.
Keep shuffling.
All right, go ahead.
How many people you think are going to hop off here once this raffle is over?
Oh man, I bet we go down to eight or nine.
All right, he's shuffling.
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All right, I'm going to give you a countdown.
I'm going to say three, two, one, and then spin when I say spin, you spin.
All right, got it.
All right, three, two, one, spin.
May the odds be ever in your favor.
This is for the $6,500 entry fee hunt junction, Illinois, $100 entry on the raffle.
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Who is it going to be?
Billy Barry.
Billy Barry, huh?
Congratulations, Billy Barry.
You have just won yourself an entry to junction Illinois this weekend.
$6,500.
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I don't know Billy.
Do you know Billy Barry or Basham?
Hey, he bought seven entries.
Hey, hey, okay.
He spent $700 and it paid off for 6,500.
So I mean, that's a pretty good buy if you ask me.
Oh yeah, it's a dang good buy.
Yeah.
So Billy Barry, congratulations.
Where's Billy from, Basham?
Do you know?
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I don't know anything about Billy.
There he is.
He's watching.
Look, Billy, congratulations, man.
Happy for you.
We are happy for you, man.
Where are you from, Billy?
Hannah said he's from South Carolina.
There you go.
Hey, tell him to get in his truck.
Time to ride.
Hey, Billy, I got a South Carolina dog up here I'll hunt for you in it.
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Oh, God, look at this guy over here.
All right.
Hey, we can get Hannah.
We can get Hannah to, you know, pitch him the idea of letting the South Carolina dogs
hunt in it for.
Yeah, we could.
We could.
Hey, let's recap.
Autumn Oaks here.
What was your favorite part of the week up there?
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You and I spent the whole week up there.
What did you enjoy up there?
Just the week up there.
I mean, I was able to go up there and not hunt and not do anything.
So except for work.
So work for everybody and fixing stuff.
So yeah, it was just that that aspect of it.
Just going up there, being able to relax, have a week, just hang out around everybody.
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Yeah, I think that's probably my favorite part, too.
Just the camaraderie.
It's just it's a great week to get up there and hang out with everybody, see what's going
on.
It's just a week of it's not I can't call it relaxation, but it's a fun, fun week.
So I love getting to go up there and hang out with especially the into the dark kennels
crew.
Those guys are awesome.
Yeah, Mark, Jeff, I want to say thank you to Jeffrey for letting me let me hunt spot
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for him.
So that was exciting.
They got anything in the world qualifiers.
Oh, Billy said that he's been in Illinois for a couple of weeks.
So it works out perfectly.
Even better.
Even better.
All right.
So good luck this weekend.
Go in at all.
All right.
Who's been on a hot streak?
Who are you?
Who do you think has the best odds at this hunt in Illinois this weekend?
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Do you see who all?
Oh, at the junction.
Junction.
I'd have to look to even I didn't even really see who entered.
I mean, is dual going to be there?
Yep.
And the crash are going.
Yes.
You're typical guy, you know, they run up and down the roads.
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They they've got the top notch dogs.
So you know, your typical guys, weeds been on a freaking roll with Jack.
You know, he won both nights or got him both nights up there at the $2,500 hunt.
So you know, that one's always tough.
And then you got dual.
So I mean, they're always tough ones.
All right.
Let's UKC.
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If you could go to the zones, which one would you have picked this year and why?
I would pick Florida just because it's close.
That's your only reasoning.
Yeah.
OK.
I mean, a lot of it also depends on what kind of dog you're hunting.
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Because, you know, you take a dog like Buddy and you could go to Tennessee and be competitive.
You could go to Ohio and be competitive.
You know, it's a lot of it also depends on what what style your dog is.
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Will determine exactly where you go.
Yeah.
So they've got eight zones.
They've got Quincy, Michigan, which is up there in reading his own one zone.
Zone two is Jefferson, Ohio.
Zone three, Florida, Illinois.
Zone four, Sedalia, Missouri.
Zone five, Rogersville, Tennessee.
Zone six, Coffeyville, Mississippi.
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Zone seven is Orangeburg, South Carolina.
And zone eight is Paris, Texas.
And Ashley James actually wants to know.
And I like this.
This is this is the simple dog in Dog and Tuesday where we can get raw and ask these
kinds of questions.
So, Bassem, would you honestly go again if you had the chance?
Yes, I would.
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I would because what people don't realize is I don't care what anybody says.
The top hunt to win in all of coon hunting sports is the UKC World Hunt.
I mean, it just if you've got a male dog that has any type of pedigree whatsoever, the top
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hunt to win is the UKC World Hunt.
Plain and simple.
It just is.
I mean, look at look at how it changed J.R.'s life.
You know, it's just if you do it right and you run it like a business after you win it.
I mean, the the monetary amount is just there's not a hunt out there that that will get you
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what that hunt will.
There's none.
Yeah.
All right.
So, in zone one, Quincy, Michigan, they had 90 entries and they're taking 17 to the finals.
Zone two, Jefferson, Ohio, 87 entries and they're taking 16.
Florida, Illinois, 141 entries, taking 27.
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Sedalia, Missouri, 97 entries, taking 18.
Rogersville, Tennessee, 73 entries, taking 14.
That's where I'd want to be.
Rogersville, Tennessee.
That's where you'd want to go.
That's where I'd want to just because when you're talking, that's it.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I I'm pretty sure that is Eastern Tennessee.
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Yeah, I don't I don't ride my geographic location there for Rogersville.
I'm looking.
I'm pretty sure Rogersville is Eastern Tennessee.
Zone six is Coffeeville, Mississippi.
They got 27 entries, taking five.
Orangeburg, South Carolina, 25 entries, taking five.
And Paris, Texas, taking or they have 32 entries and taking six.
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So you know, Ashley, James, I think I would disagree with you on that one.
I think the UKC still holds a bunch of prestige.
And I had I had this conversation, Duel and I hunted last night together and we were sitting
around waiting on dogs to get wooded and we were just talking.
And I said, you know, the one thing that I don't like anymore, like about PKC in general
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is speaking is like there's no prestige.
Like you said, you don't I don't know who really won the world last year.
I mean, I can tell you Nationals this year is trigger, but the world I don't know who
won last year.
And yeah, there's a better financial payout in PKC and even the tournament champions pays
out more than the UKC world.
But something about that world championship title for a piano club that's been around
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for so long, to me, I get goosebumps thinking about winning that hunt.
Like I want to win that hunt bad.
So so when you think of prestige, you are talking about, oh, like who remembers it?
That's not that's really not what we're even talking about.
Every single UKC guy out there and UKC hunts more than PKC does.
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Down every UKC guy out there wants that UKC world champion.
That way they can sit back in the holler and say, I got a leader off a world champion.
You know, I mean, it's just it is what it is.
Like you start selling world champion puppies and everybody in there, they come out.
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It's like roaches.
They come out of the freaking cracks just to buy one.
And then Goddard said he won the nationals in 2019 in case anyone didn't know.
Well thanks for reminding us, buddy.
We we had a time lapse.
Jason Dottry has zero people skills, which is why he can never do the breeding programs.
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So you know, Gordon Gordon and Eric here, he says the UKC world title is great, but
he thinks the TOC experience is better.
And I will say, Gordy, that I believe that the TOC is the best production when it comes
to a big coon hunt.
The way that they treat the hunters, they go all out down there in Greencastle at two
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fat labs.
I mean, the whole it's a wedding venue.
It is a nice rustic barn in case you guys haven't been there.
Seen pictures of it is a huge rustic barn out in the bottoms of Greencastle.
You have to take this big, windy, long gravel road to get out there.
They decorate, yeah, if they haven't closed, they've got they've got it decorated.
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As soon as you walk in, you walk up to a table, you get your entry card, you draw your cast,
you walk down, you get your picture taken, you go inside, they sit down at the table.
You know, it's almost like it's almost like a black tie event.
The way they have it set up with the tables and the music and the lights.
And they do a good job with that.
So, you know, that is to me, I agree.
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That is the best production for a cocoon hunt.
But I think the prestige of that world championship.
I don't know.
To me, it's just there's nothing like it.
So I have another question.
Go ahead.
So so with that, though, I was a part of the very first one when they had it 64.
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And that I wish they would go back to it.
I'll elaborate.
So the very first TLC, it was only 64 in the final.
OK.
It's just a lot more prestigious, you know, less less dogs making it.
So I've always wondered this.
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And maybe this is the time to interject it.
Maybe it's not.
But I'm going to anyways, because it's my podcast and I can do what I want.
What makes it a world championship?
And I say this because the Nationals are held, you know, in like the nation, like a world
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championship for most other sports has competitors from all around the world.
Now, I get it.
We draw some guys down from Canada, but I don't know anybody that comes up from Mexico.
And I don't know anybody coming from Europe or Asia.
Like what makes a world championship?
Now you sound like that sprinter on the USA team, Lyle's, that was knocking the NBA for
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saying you're not the world champion of anything.
OK, it's a serious question.
Like what what is it the world?
I don't know.
You can see American championship.
I don't know.
But like so what makes in any registry, like what makes the world different than the Nationals?
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Like your state championship makes sense.
Your national championship makes sense.
The world title, as much as I love it.
And by golly, I would like to tote that cup in the air and say I'm a world champion.
Like what makes it a world championship?
These are the things that keep me up at night.
You'll see what I you'll see why I have gray hair.
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I have to look at this nonsense 24 7.
Like what?
I don't know.
I back to what we were talking about, the reason why I would pick Rogersville, Tennessee,
Rogerville, Tennessee is going to be in the mountains.
They're taking 17 dogs.
Your scores are not going to be high.
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You're not going to treat you're not going to treat six and seven cones in a two hour
cast in the mountains.
It's not happening.
So you're going to see I would venture to say 300 plus with 220 300 plus 225 plus will
probably get you in.
Nikki I already said there are dogs from Canada.
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You must not have been paying attention like most days when I'm talking.
She wasn't paying attention to me.
Bash him.
I said there was dogs from Canada.
Yeah.
OK, so I'm going to go.
That's why I would pick Rogersville, Tennessee.
Flora, I mean, you're going to it's going to take it's not going to take a score like
it did up in, you know, northern Indiana or northern Ohio.
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It's not going to take a score like that.
I still think that Flora you could get in with a nice score.
But Rogersville, just judging by the numbers, which you don't know the numbers until it's
already too late.
Right.
I'm saying right.
So hindsight's 20 20.
If I had to pick a zone knowing the numbers, I would pick Rogersville, Tennessee.
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So I would I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that I disagree that I would not choose
Coffeyville, Mississippi, Orangeburg, South Carolina, Paris, Texas.
I guess you said Rogersville.
Yeah, I don't know.
And the reason I say that, just looking at these those bottom three zones, there's six,
seven and eight.
The highest number they've got is 32 dogs.
You know, that to me feels like a nice club hunt.
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Like that's a lot of dogs for a club hunt.
That doesn't feel like world championship status to me.
If you're up there in Florida, Illinois or up there in Quincy, Michigan, where they're
pushing 100 dogs, 100 plus dogs, like the atmosphere changes, like the mood in the room
changes.
Like when you pull in, you're like, all right, we're hunting for the world now.
You know, I think to me, it's all about the atmosphere.
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And when you and I went over to excuse me, when we went over to Missouri that year that
I doubled up with Jed and you got in with Buddy, right?
That to me felt like a world championship.
Missouri was hopping that day or that weekend.
The problem I have with it, though, is you start talking about 140 entries or 100 entries.
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And I mean, the proof is in the pudding.
People's how many of how many of them are getting Coons added to make sure that they
get a high enough score to get in?
Yeah, I mean, I guess there's the possibility that there's all kinds of stuff.
But like I said, what makes the world the world?
You know what?
There you can what if all day long?
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OK, let's see how good your math is or your guessing skills are.
No, Lord.
OK.
How many train walkers are in it entered into the world this year?
Two hundred ninety one three seventy nine.
OK, OK.
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This number surprises me a little bit.
I feel like there would be more maybe not, but red bones.
Twenty eight, 19.
That's low.
I mean, I feel like that's low plots.
I would I would assume plots to be low.
Oh, this is an interesting statistic.
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Oh, Nikki said 13 year close there, darling.
All right.
How many plots?
Thirty seven plot dogs.
You're crazy.
Not even like five.
I would.
Yeah, I wouldn't even guess that.
Here's the interesting statistic.
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In all of my years hunting, I've seen more better plot dogs than I have red bones.
But I'm going to tell you why, because if you've never heard of Mr. Eddie Anderson from Kentucky,
he's got some good plot dogs.
He's top 16 of autumn oaks, top 100 of the world.
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So I've been around some decent plots.
I have yet and to see a pure blood red bone running trachea.
OK, so I got one more statistic here for you.
It ties together.
So leopard hounds, how many think there are leopards?
Two.
Correct.
There's two.
OK, here's where the statistic comes in.
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I find it interesting that in both the leopard hound and the plot, there are only males entered.
There are no females entered.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
It is interesting.
And it's that way for every breed.
Well, not every breed for zero, but the males dominate the entries over the females.
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So except for one breed, there's one breed where there are more females than there are
males.
We're going to say black and tan.
Wrong.
It is the cross breeds.
There are eight females and seven males entered in the cross breeds.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
So what about the three guys is still in the running?
Oh, yes.
Let's talk about that.
Those are interesting statistics that I read earlier while I was waiting on a football
game to start.
So in case you guys don't know about the Triple Crown program, this is a formatted deal where
you must compete in the Grand American in South Carolina starting in January.
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You heard?
You're wrong.
You're wrong.
Okay.
Fill me in.
It's winter classics, autumn oaks and the world hunt.
You're right.
You're right.
Gosh darn it.
I hate to say that.
You're right.
Okay.
So it starts in the winter classic.
Yeah.
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Tyler Rotten says his plot dog is looking pretty good.
Should be in the top 100.
Okay.
You're right.
So it starts in the winter classic in Batesville, Mississippi.
Then it goes to like you said, autumn oaks, Richmond one, one night, Friday night.
That's it.
Yep.
And then it goes to the world hunt.
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So when this started coming out of winter classic on Friday night, the entries, there
were 424 dogs at the winter classic.
Okay.
Uh, let's see here.
That was on Friday, Saturday night.
There was 379 entries.
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That was a total of 650 entries at autumn oaks through all of that.
After autumn oaks, they were only eight hounds that secured three cast winds, which put them
in the, the, uh, running here for the final leg.
That gave them 150 points.
So we went from 650 to eight.
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But five of them did not win an RQE.
Correct.
There's five of them who are not eligible for the United Kennel club world championship.
So that leaves three dogs.
Three.
That leaves dog number one, bottom land, Gaucho, a male black and tan dog, three years old
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owned by Chad McCoy and Brad Hile.
And he has entered in zone one in Michigan for the world hunt.
Dog number two is roses or excuse me, Oaks hard time Stella.
That is a one year old English female owned by Burrell shoulders.
Yep.
Yep.
She's entered in zone three of Illinois.
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And the third dog is roses wild dream and echo owned by Logan Rose, Logan Estridge,
Randy size more of McKee, Kentucky.
This second year in a row they've been in the running.
Yep.
Um, echo is a five year old train Walker male.
So um, you know, this is the second year in a row that Chad McCoy has been in it too.
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It wasn't with Gaucho last year.
He had lefty in last year, I believe going into the world and got beat out by Scott was
a scar and that one and one at all.
Yeah.
And yep.
So um, you know, these, these guys, they've put in the time, they've traveled literally
across the country, uh, to get into this triple crown.
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So it'd be interesting to see who pulls ahead and, and who wins all this.
Jason, Jason, you're wrong.
The only, only, only one cast win from autumn Oaks counts towards triple crown.
I don't know.
I don't know the rules on that one either Friday or Saturday.
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So if you're hunting a grand night, Friday is the only, the only one.
So if you're hunting a grand night at autumn Oaks and you win your cast and you get in
the top 16, Saturday nights does not count.
So only one cast at autumn Oaks counts towards triple crown.
It's either Friday or Saturday.
Yeah, I can, I can say that makes sense.
That makes sense.
(35:59):
So all right.
Well, we have covered our $6,500 entry raffle drawing.
We've kind of covered the world zones here.
Um, is there anything else that we need to shine in this tree tonight?
I think it's about it.
I think it's going to be a short one.
Absolutely.
So guys, thanks for, thanks for tuning in here on dog on Tuesday.
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We didn't get to a couple of Tuesdays ago.
We had to skip it.
We had a wild wedding going on that night.
It got out of control.
Yep.
Absolutely burnt the dance floor down.
Congratulations to Billy Barry on winning the $6,500 draw.
Good luck this weekend.
Um, I don't have anything.
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I got a man competition this weekend.
Oh, look at you go.
Uh, so, so they, they competed against, uh, I want to say 15 other schools last Saturday
and one third overall.
So Benji Kaufman says, let's cover the possums.
What does that mean?
Oh, is there an inside joke here that I don't know about?
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Oh, just, I've got a dog that he, he, he loves possums more than he loves cones.
Nikki says the Braves win eighth grade football.
I couldn't be there boys had to hang out with all these people over here on Semper dog and
Braves win.
All right.
The possums though, you have a dog that likes possums.
Yeah, buzz.
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He, he likes to run until something runs across this face.
It's hot.
Yeah.
And usually it's 50%.
It's 40% possum, 40% cone and a 20% slick.
Look at your math there.
That's pretty good.
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But last night he went three for four, three cones, one slick.
So we're hoping.
There we go.
All right.
So I do for right now, I'm not doing anything but whipping him and sending him on because
this dog is not trying to run a track whatsoever.
He's just flat flying through the country.
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I picked him up 2.9 to one night.
I mean, he's just, he's not trying.
He's not trying to run a track whatsoever.
So the only thing I can do at this point is just letting mature, whip his ass for tree
and possums and praising for tree and cones and just keep on going.
Yeah.
That's one thing I'm very fortunate with wheels.
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I have never ever had to worry about a possum with him.
And I say that now and he'll screw himself this weekend, but I've, that dog has never
messed with the possum.
This is the literally, I make fun of Mark all the time.
This is literally the only dog I've ever had here that has ever messed with a possum.
Remember that Depot dog I used to have?
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Yep.
She used to, she used to tree some possums.
Yes she would.
Yeah.
All right, buddy.
Anything else?
I know Benji I shouldn't have said that.
I probably jinxed myself, but hey, it is what it is.
Now, buddy, I think I'm good.
I've got a couple of things I got to get done here tonight and get this podcast, the podcast
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form edited and uploaded for those who weren't able to make the Facebook live tonight.
We can have it up there for him tomorrow morning.
I'm going to get that done.
I'm going to do all my Shane or my, I said Shane chores.
I just saw Shane Patton's watching Shane.
We already spun the wheel buddy.
Thanks for joining us though.
And thank you for letting us do that.
We appreciate that.
I got to get all my farm chores done here tonight.
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It's already dark on me and I haven't even started on farm chores.
So I'm going to get after it.
So guys, make sure you go to wherever, wherever you listen to the podcast and make sure you
click on it.
Listen to our last two podcasts.
And my media director forgot to post it on our Facebook page.
I did.
I absolutely forgot to get on there and post that we had new podcasts released.
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My life has been a whirlwind lately.
So we got Calvin Redhouse hopping on here, buddy.
Appreciate you joining us.
We appreciate you coming off here though.
We appreciate it.
Go ahead.
What?
Good luck.
Good luck, Tyler.
I just remember buddy, just go out there, have a good time.
He said it'll be his first time.
So go out, have a good time and just remember why, why it is that you're going out there
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and hunting what you're hunting.
You know, that's not Tyler Roten's first time, right?
No, I don't know him.
You don't know Tyler Roten hunts the Mills River strike nine dog.
Ah, yeah, I do.
You got him Tyler.
You got him on that one.
Oh, you got him good.
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Oh, that was great.
I try to give, be a good guy and give a good motivational speech and look at what y'all
do.
Oh my God.
That was classic.
Yes.
Hey, one thing I do want to say though.
I don't know names.
I know faces.
You know, I mean people, I don't even know faces.
You know, I mean people walk up to me and go, Hey man, how's it going?
And I'm just like, man, it's going pretty good.
(41:06):
And they walk off and someone will go, who is that?
And I go, I don't have a clue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, one thing though, I know we've tried to sign off here three times though, but
Nikki made a good point here.
She said prayers for Doc and chirpy birds all they were so Doc was supposed to judge
the UKC show next weekend, the world show him and his daughter and Doc and chirpy both
came down with COVID right after autumn oak.
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So they are a pillar in the coon hound world and they're both in the hospital right now
fighting COVID and they're having to fight pretty hard.
So definitely send up some prayers for them.
Another one.
And I just seen him before we came live.
Gene triggers was in a vehicle accident with an 18 wheeler.
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I do not, I do not know the extent.
I seen Walt Kalisko put it on his Facebook page.
Like I said, I don't know the extent.
I don't know how serious it was, but I just seen that he was in a vehicle accident with
an 18 wheeler.
So like I said, just keep him in your thoughts.
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Like I said, I don't know any of the damage what's going on.
I just, I just seen that Walt posted that on Facebook.
Yeah.
So prayers for Gene Juggers, doc and the chirpy birds all hope everybody can.
You know, pull through and hang out with us at the next event.
So all right, this is the third time, third, final time we're signing off here.
(42:31):
I'm out of here.
All right, buddy.
Later.
All right.
See you guys.
Thank you.
Hey, Brandon white, thanks for joining us before we end next level.
We appreciate you and all that you do.
We appreciate what you guys have been doing.
So lucky that I hit the cancel button because I'd already hit the finish.
Look, Hey, I'm even repping.
I got the next level hat and the next level shirt.
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It is awesome.
I've got wheels on it.
Wheels is on the hero salute.
It is a fantastic feed.
If you guys haven't figured it out yet, you need to hop on the train and try out that
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So that hero salute, it's a, it's a great feed.
It's got added a conjoined and glucosamine in it for joint health.
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Keep those hands that we hunt in tip top shape.
So Brandon, I'm glad you hopped on here.
Love to give you guys a plug.
Appreciate all you guys have been doing for the Coonhound world.
As for that, I'm out, I'm done.
Hit end.
We're done.
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I don't know what you were doing there, but I'm here.
I was sending you a request to join like 18 times.
You weren't letting me in, homie.
I kept hitting add, but it wouldn't let me.
(02:03):
Even now, you're going through my regular speaker and not my speaker's phone, but I
can still hear you loud enough, so I'm good.
Yeah, I'm going to turn you up a little bit here.
Yeah, you're kind of quiet, but alright.
We're in.
We're in like Flynn, bro.
Yep, what's going on, buddy?
(02:25):
Well, get a natural light for today's actions.
Like piss water.
Oh, Natty light.
Delicious.
I love it.
Alright, no, I just got back from the boys football game, so they're actually still
(02:46):
playing.
Usually they play seventh and eighth grade together, so I was like, alright, easy.
Same game, you know, not not today.
They had enough for a seventh grade team and enough for an eighth grade team.
So I watched Colton play seventh grade and I didn't get to stay for the eighth grade
game so I could be on here.
But Jason, don't nobody need to hear too unintelligent people talk.
(03:09):
Now I got more important things to do than to watch the debate tonight.
Yeah, yeah, we're not into that.
Yeah, no, Jason, bad enough headache right now.
I don't need I don't need any worse than the one but it's OK.
Jason told me last time we hunted together that his wife makes him not watch us all the
time because she doesn't like, you know, she doesn't like whenever he has his phone playing
(03:31):
all the time.
So we know who who wears the pants there.
She probably has the debate on.
So where are you headed this weekend?
This weekend I am going to reading Michigan UKC World Qualifiers or zones.
So that's where wheels and I are going.
We're going to need some luck.
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We need we need something.
Hope and a prayer.
Man let me tell you this dog was so everybody knows the story.
He was down and out with their lick.
Yeah, out all summer.
Terrible treating him with the I was all shot.
Got about three and a half, four weeks in their treatment.
He come out on fire.
I mean, I thought I had a brand new dog.
(04:14):
I was ready to take on the world.
Nikki takes an autumn Oaks gets a cast win at autumn Oaks at a girl.
Not enough to get in the top 16, but you know, she got caught in the storm and a lot of factors
that played into that.
So got the cast win.
That's all you can ask for.
Come home from Oaks and the wheels haven't fallen off, but he's just not he's just not
clicking on all cylinders.
(04:35):
Like I feel like, you know, whenever you're running down the highway and these new vehicles
and you start out on eight cylinders and then all of a sudden it like automatically kicks
you down to six cylinders for fuel saving.
I feel like that's where we're at right now.
I feel like we're running on six cylinders trying to save a little fuel.
So hopefully we can we can turn it back on this weekend for the zones and be ready to
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go.
Hey, at least you're not like me and running on a flat tire.
So a little backstory real quick.
We took which you knew this before Oaks spot just ain't been looking right.
You know, on the ground a lot longer, missing a lot.
Just, just no energy, nothing.
So you know, being in the dog world, we thought he's tested positive for earlier before.
(05:21):
Yes, sir.
Mr. Lane.
Yes, sir.
It is.
Yeah, we're going to draw for y'all got to listen to us ramble for a little bit first.
Y'all got to hang on for a minute.
Hook line and sinker.
Yeah, hook line and sinker.
So spot was missing, just no energy, blah, blah, blah.
(05:43):
He's had our Lick yet before.
So took him to the vet.
Well, the vet goes to check him out and realizes that his lymph nodes are three times the size
that they're supposed to be.
A rat road, Scooby.
Yeah, a rat road.
So they done some tests.
James Ashley says they got us in a pinch.
(06:09):
So they did they did some tests.
The vet was hoping it would come back or like you because that's best case scenario is a
G L O P I believe it is, which is the proteins in his body were way elevated.
So yeah, come back negative on our Lick.
(06:32):
Yeah, no, back.
Yeah.
I took him back to the vet yesterday and they ran another plethora of panels and so we should
know something in three or four days.
Man, I was listening to a podcast this morning on my way to work with Heath Hyatt and he was
talking about something like that dog just not acting right and took it into the vet.
And yeah, Ashton, you're right.
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They definitely use this draw in his advertisement 100 percent.
Actually, I was contacted and asked if I would do a raffle for this hunt.
So no, it was not simple dog in using it.
Now, once I was asked, oh, hell yeah, it became a publicity stunt.
Yeah.
(07:15):
But like I said, I was listening to that podcast this morning and Heath Hyatt was talking about
that head dog just wasn't acting right and his lymph nodes swelled up and ended up being
lymphoma.
So hopefully that is not it.
Yeah, that won't be a good day.
No.
But we got Woodrow Smith on here.
We got Brock McDaniel.
We got 30 people watching this thing today.
I mean, they waiting for this drawing, you know, we need to have a raffle every time.
(07:36):
That's what we need to do.
I'm waiting for a few more names.
Yeah.
OK, so hey, all you guys that are sitting here watching, though, waiting on us to get
this raffle drawing going.
And for those listeners who don't know what's going on tonight.
So tonight we're drawn for a $6500 entry to Junction, Illinois.
So, Basher, why don't you kind of explain how that all come about?
(07:58):
So I was just contacted.
There was a couple of entries left over.
And you know, we always like we, you know, one thing that we've liked doing here, you
know, in the last few big hunts is just being able to raffle off one of the big hunts, give
somebody the opportunity to, you know, some of the guys that normally don't go, which
(08:18):
sometimes the guys that normally do go still win the entry.
But still, it gives an opportunity for somebody that doesn't normally get to go to an event
like that, a $6500 entry.
It gives them an opportunity to win one and take their dog up there and see if they can't
come out on top.
So I was contacted by Shane asking if I would run a raffle for him.
(08:43):
So I ran it.
Here we go.
You know, I figured we'd do it.
It just happened that we got them all paid for and everything like that and was able
to do it right here on Semper Dog and Dog and Tuesday.
So once again, guys, I appreciate everybody getting their money in and getting paid.
Anybody that's ever ran a raffle like this, it is a it's a pain in the ass to run, getting
(09:10):
everybody's money and making sure that it's ready to go and getting the names and all
that.
It becomes a pain in the ass to get it, but we're able to get it done.
Shout out to Shane for allowing us to do that.
Yeah.
So everybody who's watching, like I'm curious how many people are are wanting to go to the
$6500 this weekend?
How many people that are watching?
(09:32):
Do you know got an entry?
Have you seen who all's on here?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's there's there's a lot of your normal guys.
You know, you got let's see here.
You got Greg Maynard, Koi Watson, Waylon Pierce, Jed Finley, Joey Goforth got a couple.
One of our sponsors, Parker Reese, Ashton Hall, Dylan Jones, Zach Boring, Josh McAlice,
(09:59):
Kyle Dorch, Randy Lawson, Josh Sparks, Mason Bush, Patrick Burch, James Ashley.
There's like I said, there's quite a few.
Ashley Gunthree, Jake Reiniger.
Hey, Joey, go for it.
I got a couple.
Joey Goforth said he's got ten dollars to get you some hair color.
And he said them dogs making you go gray.
True.
Now it's dealing with Bryce.
(10:21):
That's what's making it go gray.
No.
And Nikki says, is this the same weekend, the same as the Zones?
Yes, it is.
So yes, it is.
We've got we've got two conflicts here.
And we've talked about this before, but it's just I don't understand why we can't make
something happen here.
We got a big $6500 entry the same weekend as the UKC World Zones.
Then you turn around next weekend and you've got the Superstakes finals the same weekend
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as the UKC World.
Like these two registries need to come up with a way to move these hunts away from each
other because ultimately they're putting the hunters in a pinch and they are costing themselves
money.
If you look at they are costing themselves money.
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It doesn't win for them to do this on the same weekends.
And I don't know why somebody can't give up one weekend.
There's 51 other weekends in the year.
So I don't get it.
You know, James Ashley says they're just killing each other.
And that's exactly right.
Hey, I want to give a shout out though to James Ashley real quick.
I contacted him and his wife a couple weeks ago wanting to get some hats made for Rafter
(11:26):
E Family Farmstead and talked to them over there.
Autumn Oaks.
They were working on the designs and stuff.
And she just sent me the finished products and pictures yesterday and they are slick.
Rick, they make some nice looking hats.
So I want to say big shout out to James Ashley and his wife booking designs.
If you guys are looking for solid leathers, hand sewn leather patch caps, book them designs
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is the way to go.
Pretty pumped to get them in the mail here and start sporting them on here.
Daughtry is watching.
I'm surprised he's awake yet.
It's not time for him to wake up yet, is it?
No, not usually.
No, I didn't think so.
Yeah.
I noticed some of the guys on here.
They've not listened to us before.
So hey guys, just head on over to iHeartRadio, Spotify, anywhere that you go to listen to
(12:13):
music or podcasts, search Simper Doggin and you'll find all of our podcasts.
It's all on there every other Friday and then every other Tuesday.
Jason, we have not drawed.
We are about to do that.
Yeah.
So I'm pretty excited for this weekend.
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Like I said, the zones.
They had like 94 entries up there in Michigan.
I think they're taking 17.
So wheels and I were, we were able to get through the top 100 last year and I'm hoping
that we can do that again.
This year I was ex or not excited.
I was surprised to see the amount of entries down to Flora, Illinois.
Goodness gracious.
Oh yeah.
There's a lot.
It's Illinois.
(12:54):
So, okay.
Let's, let's talk about this too.
And why, why is the world zones and the super stakes finals being held darn near in the
same town in Illinois?
It's part of it.
Yeah.
Because the, uh, well you got floor and then the world hunts in Marshall, Illinois.
(13:15):
Yeah.
I mean, they're within an hour of each other.
Ain't they?
Yeah.
Like we've got two major hunts going on just burning up that little section of the country.
Yeah.
In one weekend.
I don't do this raffle.
I guess you had, do you have it figured out?
I didn't do anything for it.
So this is on you.
(13:35):
If we have technical difficulty guys, this is on Steven Basham.
Trevor Stark rather said, he said, what's the raffle?
Trevor, this is for the $6,500 entry hunt this weekend in junction, Illinois.
Logan Ray just got on here just in time.
All right, Brassum, let's get a drum roll, please.
All right, I'm going to hit this shuffle three or four times.
(13:55):
Shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle.
Hey, I got a question while you're shuffling real quick.
Keep shuffling.
All right, go ahead.
How many people you think are going to hop off here once this raffle is over?
Oh man, I bet we go down to eight or nine.
All right, he's shuffling.
(14:16):
All right, I'm going to give you a countdown.
I'm going to say three, two, one, and then spin when I say spin, you spin.
All right, got it.
All right, three, two, one, spin.
May the odds be ever in your favor.
This is for the $6,500 entry fee hunt junction, Illinois, $100 entry on the raffle.
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Who is it going to be?
Billy Barry.
Billy Barry, huh?
Congratulations, Billy Barry.
You have just won yourself an entry to junction Illinois this weekend.
$6,500.
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I don't know Billy.
Do you know Billy Barry or Basham?
Hey, he bought seven entries.
Hey, hey, okay.
He spent $700 and it paid off for 6,500.
So I mean, that's a pretty good buy if you ask me.
Oh yeah, it's a dang good buy.
Yeah.
So Billy Barry, congratulations.
Where's Billy from, Basham?
Do you know?
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I don't know anything about Billy.
There he is.
He's watching.
Look, Billy, congratulations, man.
Happy for you.
We are happy for you, man.
Where are you from, Billy?
Hannah said he's from South Carolina.
There you go.
Hey, tell him to get in his truck.
Time to ride.
Hey, Billy, I got a South Carolina dog up here I'll hunt for you in it.
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Oh, God, look at this guy over here.
All right.
Hey, we can get Hannah.
We can get Hannah to, you know, pitch him the idea of letting the South Carolina dogs
hunt in it for.
Yeah, we could.
We could.
Hey, let's recap.
Autumn Oaks here.
What was your favorite part of the week up there?
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You and I spent the whole week up there.
What did you enjoy up there?
Just the week up there.
I mean, I was able to go up there and not hunt and not do anything.
So except for work.
So work for everybody and fixing stuff.
So yeah, it was just that that aspect of it.
Just going up there, being able to relax, have a week, just hang out around everybody.
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Yeah, I think that's probably my favorite part, too.
Just the camaraderie.
It's just it's a great week to get up there and hang out with everybody, see what's going
on.
It's just a week of it's not I can't call it relaxation, but it's a fun, fun week.
So I love getting to go up there and hang out with especially the into the dark kennels
crew.
Those guys are awesome.
Yeah, Mark, Jeff, I want to say thank you to Jeffrey for letting me let me hunt spot
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for him.
So that was exciting.
They got anything in the world qualifiers.
Oh, Billy said that he's been in Illinois for a couple of weeks.
So it works out perfectly.
Even better.
Even better.
All right.
So good luck this weekend.
Go in at all.
All right.
Who's been on a hot streak?
Who are you?
Who do you think has the best odds at this hunt in Illinois this weekend?
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Do you see who all?
Oh, at the junction.
Junction.
I'd have to look to even I didn't even really see who entered.
I mean, is dual going to be there?
Yep.
And the crash are going.
Yes.
You're typical guy, you know, they run up and down the roads.
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They they've got the top notch dogs.
So you know, your typical guys, weeds been on a freaking roll with Jack.
You know, he won both nights or got him both nights up there at the $2,500 hunt.
So you know, that one's always tough.
And then you got dual.
So I mean, they're always tough ones.
All right.
Let's UKC.
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If you could go to the zones, which one would you have picked this year and why?
I would pick Florida just because it's close.
That's your only reasoning.
Yeah.
OK.
I mean, a lot of it also depends on what kind of dog you're hunting.
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Because, you know, you take a dog like Buddy and you could go to Tennessee and be competitive.
You could go to Ohio and be competitive.
You know, it's a lot of it also depends on what what style your dog is.
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Will determine exactly where you go.
Yeah.
So they've got eight zones.
They've got Quincy, Michigan, which is up there in reading his own one zone.
Zone two is Jefferson, Ohio.
Zone three, Florida, Illinois.
Zone four, Sedalia, Missouri.
Zone five, Rogersville, Tennessee.
Zone six, Coffeyville, Mississippi.
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Zone seven is Orangeburg, South Carolina.
And zone eight is Paris, Texas.
And Ashley James actually wants to know.
And I like this.
This is this is the simple dog in Dog and Tuesday where we can get raw and ask these
kinds of questions.
So, Bassem, would you honestly go again if you had the chance?
Yes, I would.
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I would because what people don't realize is I don't care what anybody says.
The top hunt to win in all of coon hunting sports is the UKC World Hunt.
I mean, it just if you've got a male dog that has any type of pedigree whatsoever, the top
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hunt to win is the UKC World Hunt.
Plain and simple.
It just is.
I mean, look at look at how it changed J.R.'s life.
You know, it's just if you do it right and you run it like a business after you win it.
I mean, the the monetary amount is just there's not a hunt out there that that will get you
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what that hunt will.
There's none.
Yeah.
All right.
So, in zone one, Quincy, Michigan, they had 90 entries and they're taking 17 to the finals.
Zone two, Jefferson, Ohio, 87 entries and they're taking 16.
Florida, Illinois, 141 entries, taking 27.
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Sedalia, Missouri, 97 entries, taking 18.
Rogersville, Tennessee, 73 entries, taking 14.
That's where I'd want to be.
Rogersville, Tennessee.
That's where you'd want to go.
That's where I'd want to just because when you're talking, that's it.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I I'm pretty sure that is Eastern Tennessee.
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Yeah, I don't I don't ride my geographic location there for Rogersville.
I'm looking.
I'm pretty sure Rogersville is Eastern Tennessee.
Zone six is Coffeeville, Mississippi.
They got 27 entries, taking five.
Orangeburg, South Carolina, 25 entries, taking five.
And Paris, Texas, taking or they have 32 entries and taking six.
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So you know, Ashley, James, I think I would disagree with you on that one.
I think the UKC still holds a bunch of prestige.
And I had I had this conversation, Duel and I hunted last night together and we were sitting
around waiting on dogs to get wooded and we were just talking.
And I said, you know, the one thing that I don't like anymore, like about PKC in general
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is speaking is like there's no prestige.
Like you said, you don't I don't know who really won the world last year.
I mean, I can tell you Nationals this year is trigger, but the world I don't know who
won last year.
And yeah, there's a better financial payout in PKC and even the tournament champions pays
out more than the UKC world.
But something about that world championship title for a piano club that's been around
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for so long, to me, I get goosebumps thinking about winning that hunt.
Like I want to win that hunt bad.
So so when you think of prestige, you are talking about, oh, like who remembers it?
That's not that's really not what we're even talking about.
Every single UKC guy out there and UKC hunts more than PKC does.
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Down every UKC guy out there wants that UKC world champion.
That way they can sit back in the holler and say, I got a leader off a world champion.
You know, I mean, it's just it is what it is.
Like you start selling world champion puppies and everybody in there, they come out.
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It's like roaches.
They come out of the freaking cracks just to buy one.
And then Goddard said he won the nationals in 2019 in case anyone didn't know.
Well thanks for reminding us, buddy.
We we had a time lapse.
Jason Dottry has zero people skills, which is why he can never do the breeding programs.
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So you know, Gordon Gordon and Eric here, he says the UKC world title is great, but
he thinks the TOC experience is better.
And I will say, Gordy, that I believe that the TOC is the best production when it comes
to a big coon hunt.
The way that they treat the hunters, they go all out down there in Greencastle at two
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fat labs.
I mean, the whole it's a wedding venue.
It is a nice rustic barn in case you guys haven't been there.
Seen pictures of it is a huge rustic barn out in the bottoms of Greencastle.
You have to take this big, windy, long gravel road to get out there.
They decorate, yeah, if they haven't closed, they've got they've got it decorated.
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As soon as you walk in, you walk up to a table, you get your entry card, you draw your cast,
you walk down, you get your picture taken, you go inside, they sit down at the table.
You know, it's almost like it's almost like a black tie event.
The way they have it set up with the tables and the music and the lights.
And they do a good job with that.
So, you know, that is to me, I agree.
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That is the best production for a cocoon hunt.
But I think the prestige of that world championship.
I don't know.
To me, it's just there's nothing like it.
So I have another question.
Go ahead.
So so with that, though, I was a part of the very first one when they had it 64.
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And that I wish they would go back to it.
I'll elaborate.
So the very first TLC, it was only 64 in the final.
OK.
It's just a lot more prestigious, you know, less less dogs making it.
So I've always wondered this.
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And maybe this is the time to interject it.
Maybe it's not.
But I'm going to anyways, because it's my podcast and I can do what I want.
What makes it a world championship?
And I say this because the Nationals are held, you know, in like the nation, like a world
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championship for most other sports has competitors from all around the world.
Now, I get it.
We draw some guys down from Canada, but I don't know anybody that comes up from Mexico.
And I don't know anybody coming from Europe or Asia.
Like what makes a world championship?
Now you sound like that sprinter on the USA team, Lyle's, that was knocking the NBA for
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saying you're not the world champion of anything.
OK, it's a serious question.
Like what what is it the world?
I don't know.
You can see American championship.
I don't know.
But like so what makes in any registry, like what makes the world different than the Nationals?
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Like your state championship makes sense.
Your national championship makes sense.
The world title, as much as I love it.
And by golly, I would like to tote that cup in the air and say I'm a world champion.
Like what makes it a world championship?
These are the things that keep me up at night.
You'll see what I you'll see why I have gray hair.
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I have to look at this nonsense 24 7.
Like what?
I don't know.
I back to what we were talking about, the reason why I would pick Rogersville, Tennessee,
Rogerville, Tennessee is going to be in the mountains.
They're taking 17 dogs.
Your scores are not going to be high.
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You're not going to treat you're not going to treat six and seven cones in a two hour
cast in the mountains.
It's not happening.
So you're going to see I would venture to say 300 plus with 220 300 plus 225 plus will
probably get you in.
Nikki I already said there are dogs from Canada.
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You must not have been paying attention like most days when I'm talking.
She wasn't paying attention to me.
Bash him.
I said there was dogs from Canada.
Yeah.
OK, so I'm going to go.
That's why I would pick Rogersville, Tennessee.
Flora, I mean, you're going to it's going to take it's not going to take a score like
it did up in, you know, northern Indiana or northern Ohio.
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It's not going to take a score like that.
I still think that Flora you could get in with a nice score.
But Rogersville, just judging by the numbers, which you don't know the numbers until it's
already too late.
Right.
I'm saying right.
So hindsight's 20 20.
If I had to pick a zone knowing the numbers, I would pick Rogersville, Tennessee.
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So I would I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that I disagree that I would not choose
Coffeyville, Mississippi, Orangeburg, South Carolina, Paris, Texas.
I guess you said Rogersville.
Yeah, I don't know.
And the reason I say that, just looking at these those bottom three zones, there's six,
seven and eight.
The highest number they've got is 32 dogs.
You know, that to me feels like a nice club hunt.
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Like that's a lot of dogs for a club hunt.
That doesn't feel like world championship status to me.
If you're up there in Florida, Illinois or up there in Quincy, Michigan, where they're
pushing 100 dogs, 100 plus dogs, like the atmosphere changes, like the mood in the room
changes.
Like when you pull in, you're like, all right, we're hunting for the world now.
You know, I think to me, it's all about the atmosphere.
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And when you and I went over to excuse me, when we went over to Missouri that year that
I doubled up with Jed and you got in with Buddy, right?
That to me felt like a world championship.
Missouri was hopping that day or that weekend.
The problem I have with it, though, is you start talking about 140 entries or 100 entries.
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And I mean, the proof is in the pudding.
People's how many of how many of them are getting Coons added to make sure that they
get a high enough score to get in?
Yeah, I mean, I guess there's the possibility that there's all kinds of stuff.
But like I said, what makes the world the world?
You know what?
There you can what if all day long?
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OK, let's see how good your math is or your guessing skills are.
No, Lord.
OK.
How many train walkers are in it entered into the world this year?
Two hundred ninety one three seventy nine.
OK, OK.
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This number surprises me a little bit.
I feel like there would be more maybe not, but red bones.
Twenty eight, 19.
That's low.
I mean, I feel like that's low plots.
I would I would assume plots to be low.
Oh, this is an interesting statistic.
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Oh, Nikki said 13 year close there, darling.
All right.
How many plots?
Thirty seven plot dogs.
You're crazy.
Not even like five.
I would.
Yeah, I wouldn't even guess that.
Here's the interesting statistic.
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In all of my years hunting, I've seen more better plot dogs than I have red bones.
But I'm going to tell you why, because if you've never heard of Mr. Eddie Anderson from Kentucky,
he's got some good plot dogs.
He's top 16 of autumn oaks, top 100 of the world.
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So I've been around some decent plots.
I have yet and to see a pure blood red bone running trachea.
OK, so I got one more statistic here for you.
It ties together.
So leopard hounds, how many think there are leopards?
Two.
Correct.
There's two.
OK, here's where the statistic comes in.
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I find it interesting that in both the leopard hound and the plot, there are only males entered.
There are no females entered.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
It is interesting.
And it's that way for every breed.
Well, not every breed for zero, but the males dominate the entries over the females.
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So except for one breed, there's one breed where there are more females than there are
males.
We're going to say black and tan.
Wrong.
It is the cross breeds.
There are eight females and seven males entered in the cross breeds.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
So what about the three guys is still in the running?
Oh, yes.
Let's talk about that.
Those are interesting statistics that I read earlier while I was waiting on a football
game to start.
So in case you guys don't know about the Triple Crown program, this is a formatted deal where
you must compete in the Grand American in South Carolina starting in January.
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You heard?
You're wrong.
You're wrong.
Okay.
Fill me in.
It's winter classics, autumn oaks and the world hunt.
You're right.
You're right.
Gosh darn it.
I hate to say that.
You're right.
Okay.
So it starts in the winter classic.
Yeah.
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Tyler Rotten says his plot dog is looking pretty good.
Should be in the top 100.
Okay.
You're right.
So it starts in the winter classic in Batesville, Mississippi.
Then it goes to like you said, autumn oaks, Richmond one, one night, Friday night.
That's it.
Yep.
And then it goes to the world hunt.
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So when this started coming out of winter classic on Friday night, the entries, there
were 424 dogs at the winter classic.
Okay.
Uh, let's see here.
That was on Friday, Saturday night.
There was 379 entries.
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That was a total of 650 entries at autumn oaks through all of that.
After autumn oaks, they were only eight hounds that secured three cast winds, which put them
in the, the, uh, running here for the final leg.
That gave them 150 points.
So we went from 650 to eight.
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But five of them did not win an RQE.
Correct.
There's five of them who are not eligible for the United Kennel club world championship.
So that leaves three dogs.
Three.
That leaves dog number one, bottom land, Gaucho, a male black and tan dog, three years old
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owned by Chad McCoy and Brad Hile.
And he has entered in zone one in Michigan for the world hunt.
Dog number two is roses or excuse me, Oaks hard time Stella.
That is a one year old English female owned by Burrell shoulders.
Yep.
Yep.
She's entered in zone three of Illinois.
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And the third dog is roses wild dream and echo owned by Logan Rose, Logan Estridge,
Randy size more of McKee, Kentucky.
This second year in a row they've been in the running.
Yep.
Um, echo is a five year old train Walker male.
So um, you know, this is the second year in a row that Chad McCoy has been in it too.
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It wasn't with Gaucho last year.
He had lefty in last year, I believe going into the world and got beat out by Scott was
a scar and that one and one at all.
Yeah.
And yep.
So um, you know, these, these guys, they've put in the time, they've traveled literally
across the country, uh, to get into this triple crown.
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So it'd be interesting to see who pulls ahead and, and who wins all this.
Jason, Jason, you're wrong.
The only, only, only one cast win from autumn Oaks counts towards triple crown.
I don't know.
I don't know the rules on that one either Friday or Saturday.
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So if you're hunting a grand night, Friday is the only, the only one.
So if you're hunting a grand night at autumn Oaks and you win your cast and you get in
the top 16, Saturday nights does not count.
So only one cast at autumn Oaks counts towards triple crown.
It's either Friday or Saturday.
Yeah, I can, I can say that makes sense.
That makes sense.
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So all right.
Well, we have covered our $6,500 entry raffle drawing.
We've kind of covered the world zones here.
Um, is there anything else that we need to shine in this tree tonight?
I think it's about it.
I think it's going to be a short one.
Absolutely.
So guys, thanks for, thanks for tuning in here on dog on Tuesday.
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We didn't get to a couple of Tuesdays ago.
We had to skip it.
We had a wild wedding going on that night.
It got out of control.
Yep.
Absolutely burnt the dance floor down.
Congratulations to Billy Barry on winning the $6,500 draw.
Good luck this weekend.
Um, I don't have anything.
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I got a man competition this weekend.
Oh, look at you go.
Uh, so, so they, they competed against, uh, I want to say 15 other schools last Saturday
and one third overall.
So Benji Kaufman says, let's cover the possums.
What does that mean?
Oh, is there an inside joke here that I don't know about?
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Oh, just, I've got a dog that he, he, he loves possums more than he loves cones.
Nikki says the Braves win eighth grade football.
I couldn't be there boys had to hang out with all these people over here on Semper dog and
Braves win.
All right.
The possums though, you have a dog that likes possums.
Yeah, buzz.
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He, he likes to run until something runs across this face.
It's hot.
Yeah.
And usually it's 50%.
It's 40% possum, 40% cone and a 20% slick.
Look at your math there.
That's pretty good.
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But last night he went three for four, three cones, one slick.
So we're hoping.
There we go.
All right.
So I do for right now, I'm not doing anything but whipping him and sending him on because
this dog is not trying to run a track whatsoever.
He's just flat flying through the country.
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I picked him up 2.9 to one night.
I mean, he's just, he's not trying.
He's not trying to run a track whatsoever.
So the only thing I can do at this point is just letting mature, whip his ass for tree
and possums and praising for tree and cones and just keep on going.
Yeah.
That's one thing I'm very fortunate with wheels.
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I have never ever had to worry about a possum with him.
And I say that now and he'll screw himself this weekend, but I've, that dog has never
messed with the possum.
This is the literally, I make fun of Mark all the time.
This is literally the only dog I've ever had here that has ever messed with a possum.
Remember that Depot dog I used to have?
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Yep.
She used to, she used to tree some possums.
Yes she would.
Yeah.
All right, buddy.
Anything else?
I know Benji I shouldn't have said that.
I probably jinxed myself, but hey, it is what it is.
Now, buddy, I think I'm good.
I've got a couple of things I got to get done here tonight and get this podcast, the podcast
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form edited and uploaded for those who weren't able to make the Facebook live tonight.
We can have it up there for him tomorrow morning.
I'm going to get that done.
I'm going to do all my Shane or my, I said Shane chores.
I just saw Shane Patton's watching Shane.
We already spun the wheel buddy.
Thanks for joining us though.
And thank you for letting us do that.
We appreciate that.
I got to get all my farm chores done here tonight.
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It's already dark on me and I haven't even started on farm chores.
So I'm going to get after it.
So guys, make sure you go to wherever, wherever you listen to the podcast and make sure you
click on it.
Listen to our last two podcasts.
And my media director forgot to post it on our Facebook page.
I did.
I absolutely forgot to get on there and post that we had new podcasts released.
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My life has been a whirlwind lately.
So we got Calvin Redhouse hopping on here, buddy.
Appreciate you joining us.
We appreciate you coming off here though.
We appreciate it.
Go ahead.
What?
Good luck.
Good luck, Tyler.
I just remember buddy, just go out there, have a good time.
He said it'll be his first time.
So go out, have a good time and just remember why, why it is that you're going out there
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and hunting what you're hunting.
You know, that's not Tyler Roten's first time, right?
No, I don't know him.
You don't know Tyler Roten hunts the Mills River strike nine dog.
Ah, yeah, I do.
You got him Tyler.
You got him on that one.
Oh, you got him good.
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Oh, that was great.
I try to give, be a good guy and give a good motivational speech and look at what y'all
do.
Oh my God.
That was classic.
Yes.
Hey, one thing I do want to say though.
I don't know names.
I know faces.
You know, I mean people, I don't even know faces.
You know, I mean people walk up to me and go, Hey man, how's it going?
And I'm just like, man, it's going pretty good.
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And they walk off and someone will go, who is that?
And I go, I don't have a clue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, one thing though, I know we've tried to sign off here three times though, but
Nikki made a good point here.
She said prayers for Doc and chirpy birds all they were so Doc was supposed to judge
the UKC show next weekend, the world show him and his daughter and Doc and chirpy both
came down with COVID right after autumn oak.
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So they are a pillar in the coon hound world and they're both in the hospital right now
fighting COVID and they're having to fight pretty hard.
So definitely send up some prayers for them.
Another one.
And I just seen him before we came live.
Gene triggers was in a vehicle accident with an 18 wheeler.
(41:50):
I do not, I do not know the extent.
I seen Walt Kalisko put it on his Facebook page.
Like I said, I don't know the extent.
I don't know how serious it was, but I just seen that he was in a vehicle accident with
an 18 wheeler.
So like I said, just keep him in your thoughts.
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Like I said, I don't know any of the damage what's going on.
I just, I just seen that Walt posted that on Facebook.
Yeah.
So prayers for Gene Juggers, doc and the chirpy birds all hope everybody can.
You know, pull through and hang out with us at the next event.
So all right, this is the third time, third, final time we're signing off here.
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I'm out of here.
All right, buddy.
Later.
All right.
See you guys.
Thank you.
Hey, Brandon white, thanks for joining us before we end next level.
We appreciate you and all that you do.
We appreciate what you guys have been doing.
So lucky that I hit the cancel button because I'd already hit the finish.
Look, Hey, I'm even repping.
I got the next level hat and the next level shirt.
Hey, froggy bottom outdoors just made an announcement today.
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So we are pushing this feed.
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So that hero salute, it's a, it's a great feed.
It's got added a conjoined and glucosamine in it for joint health.
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Keep those hands that we hunt in tip top shape.
So Brandon, I'm glad you hopped on here.
Love to give you guys a plug.
Appreciate all you guys have been doing for the Coonhound world.
As for that, I'm out, I'm done.
Hit end.
We're done.
See you buddy.
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